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Old Thread: >>171724509
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MAKE NEPNEP GREAT AGAIN
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>>171739735
cucked forever
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>>171739735
>last week
>happy that I opened 1 nepnep from a random pack
>"hey maybe I can start working on a shadowcraft deck"

I think I will scrap that project, shit is not going to be viable for a long while
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Someone is trying to hard here ...
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>>171739782
Nep has still a chance against control and midsword though.
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>>171739141
>same cost
>banish instead of destroy
>hit amulets too
>only hit enemy board
Cuck me up inside, senpai. Next, they get a better tribunal.
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>>171739735
>>171739826

>nepnep

Stop.
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>>171739895
>same cost

It's 10PP though. And don't start with that ramp shit.

They did however get a cheaper themis for 4PP in discard dragon decks.
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>>171739735
Return to the one true goddess.
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>>171739782
Fuck you m8.
>>171739476
Because muh 8 gorrillion Bahamut that got Khawy'd. But be glad it's just one class and not neutral. And tbqh, she at least was proven to work and already had some time in the limelight. Nepnep can only get stronger with each expansion unless they purposefully tried to gimp which is the case for TotG, but things will definitely get better in the next expansion. Have faith, fellow Nepper!
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/472491537.htm
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>>171739672
>free of streamer shit
>now has yugioh cancer
This isn't any better.
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>If Games reasonable does a card ranking.
Amy fucking LMFAO english fucks don't know shit how a card works. Hahahahaha

>Game-ai does a card ranking
Hmm, yeah for sure they know what they are talking about even though the cards aren't playable yet. They are Japanese after all. Lightning blast is just an ok card really. I believe them.

Really makes my hippocampus stir.
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With the addition of lightning blast will JO finally reach tier1?
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>>171739895

It's 10pp to banish everyone, it's a 6pp Odin great for ramp
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>>171739752
>>171739895
Tell me all about your 6 burn elana board, your overstatted aggro buster, your sonia effect wall, mist shaman basically fucking everyone, or a now consistent count haven

>>171739476
>Turn 8
>drop a 5/5 body
>drop a 5/5 body that replaces itself indefinitely meaning it attacks every turn after that can only really be negated by 3 copies of 1 card people really only run 2 of only because of seraph unless they're rune/haven which then can kind of sort of banish/transform him
>Destroys the strongest opponent
>Heals for that attack which can easily be 8+ health
>2 misc effects including draw a card, summon a 4/4 lich, and destroy yet another follower or nothing at all
>roughly an 18pp value
>doesn't cost an evolution point
Ids anudda shoah oy vey git dem goyims on dis

>>171739795
Blood, shadow and sword have double good ones and Ouroboros is basically flute fodder to conserve your hand. 2 better cards a turn already wasn't enough and you have better control options if you want to run int oa control mirror.

>>171739948
>Just throw away your combo and win cons bro, you'll totally draw a solid hand.
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>>171739895
Dirt Rune already has a banish Themis.
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>>171740037
>2 hp without sigil
>Themis
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>>171739976
No. It can't outpace other aggressors. It can't outpace the new healing. It needs too many if's now.
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>>171739972
>Games reasonable
Fucks that? Gamepress?
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At least I understand now why cygames wants ER to go from developing a ward board you pascale for lethal/grind out the opponent to using sigils only to drop bombs every turns.

>levi
>halo golem
>giant
>elder mage
The age of guardian golems has passede
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>>171739972
Literally who are you quoting? I haven't seen a single English site do their own rating that was also posted here.
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>>171740032
>>Just throw away your combo and win cons bro, you'll totally draw a solid hand.

You could say the same thing about Daria. Will you?
It's a discard dragon ffs, if you have a 2PP follower on board alongside this it will also deal ~6 dmg to enemy leader.
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>>171740057
>sigil
>being a problem for dirt rune
>also only affects enemy board
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>>171739672
>banish
>banish
>banish
someone should make a pic where Rowen ends his friendship with Luna and has Eris as his new best friend
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>>171740184
>dies to """"midrange""""" sword
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>>171740185
He's saying that if english sites do theirs, it's lambasted. If it's JP, even though it's obviously wrong, like Game-ai did their ranking on soime cards, it's praised.

People here lambasted a tier by Bagoum, even though it was stated that they only retranslated what the JP sites say.

When someone posted the game-ai tier list, which was actually just the same, it was met with positive replies.
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>>171740184
And now you need less sigils as you don't use remi/ancient/juno
>>171740265
It actually is, because common 1 sigils takes 2 spaces, while others cost 2+ and require you to spend a previous turn placing it
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>>171740032
Oy vey it's that Dragonbab that cry about Nep every thread because she has a tiny resemblance to his favorite garbage card. And he's still crying even now despite the autowin card that Kikegames made for Dragon.
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>>171740284
But Luna and Rowen never were friends in the first place

Luna just raped Rowen in that one doujin
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>>171740284
Why not
>friendship with odin ended
>now lightning blast is my best friend
Would make more sense
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>>171740214
You wont when you play it and Daria has a MUCH better library to do it with.

>>171740184
>Golem boosters only work with guardian golems
>Not a golem trait so clay golems/gem golem/mythril golem/etc could see use
Yeah, I wonder why
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>>171740334
It's not like these sigils don't do anything when you place them. They are just slightly underpowered spells.
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>>171740364
here on /svg/ shadowbabs pretended shadow and dragon are underdog and should band together against cancer crafts
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>dragon's spell also deletes Thane's LW

fuck
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>>171740392
>You wont when you play it
You can without much problem on T6, same turn as Themis.
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>>171740401
I'm really worried how necessary random dmg/destruction/bane has become in TotG.

>>171740451
Just draconification it bro
Just sexton it bro
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>>171740392
>only guardian golems
>when they could go full elemental and make ancient summon 3 fire golems if it uses a fire sigil
Plenty of mobile games are more complex than this, why do you insist on a game that can be flowcharted
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>>171740443
>implying
Forte mama and Luna are cute together but Rowen was never my friend.
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>>171740473
Dragon warrior/rahab on t4 to stall?
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TOG Tier 1
Dragon
Sword
Forest
TOG Tier 2
Blood
Rune
Shadow
Haven
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>go first 7 (SEVEN) matches in a row

GREAT GAME
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>>171740524
cygames*
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Rank/rate the new cards each craft got!
Dragon>Blood>=Sword>Shadow>Forest>Rune>Haven
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Just woke up, based Cygames.
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>>171740536
>Rowen was never my friend.
Not anymore that's for sure
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>>171740451
Just play it again bro, we now have access to
>death's breath
>thane
>eachtar
>zombie party
>gobu princess+skelly nobleman
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>his favourite girl isn't Eris

Might as well kill yourself.
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>>171740574
Don't really care, they all got neat shit to play with.

>>171740569
Run more value cards that don't need an evo to haul your corpse around.
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>>171740648
>liking hags

She's not even my grandma.
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>>171740626
Goblin princess + prince catacomb into eachtar is going to be fucking horrific fucking christ oh my god. Basically 12 face minus what it takes to rip wards. They have some good ways to sock an evo point away so even that wont hold.
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>>171740648
Hags not welcome.
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>>171740626
>>171740710
>princess into prince

This is some pottery.
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>>171740689
>hag
Prepare to get 「Banished」 by my stand「Stairway to Heaven」
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>>171740748
Looks like someone wants their followers put in time out.
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>>171740808
>banish
>tog will have the once underdog banishing Seraph left and right

Now that's pure iron.
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>>171740808
GAS THE LUNAS, CRAFT WAR NOW
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>>171740648
>Spam destruct-banish and sacred plea
>Bukkake destruction amulets all over the board
>Play your fetched seraph
>Did you have an odin? No? Haha game over.
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When are they updating shadowverse portal?
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Even managed to buff shadow reaper 5x, too.
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>>171740842
It's really some next level irony that the Hag's evil deeds end now that Rowen see's her weakness.
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>>171740919
After intern-kun finish writing his new fanfiction.
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>>171740842
can't banish seraph if Kel already killed your face :^)
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>>171740954
>still no hip-hip-hooray post for Halitosis Breath
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So what counters dragon now?
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>tfw bandwagoners will flock to dragon and make it have a 70% playrate and force cygays to nerf lightning blast
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>>171740846
>>171740808
I hope you enjoy getting all your cards banished by Dragon :^)
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>>171740992
Same as ever, combo decks
That spell should have a pretty minor effect on the meta, roach/wolfbolt isn't going anywhere, and neither is D Shift
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>>171740992
He still can't beat removal as long as you banish the Orobro.
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>>171740959
>slowest class killing someone

Enjoy baha and blast up your ads, hagfag.

>but muh Kel

Eat a blaze or breath.
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>>171741018
I play dragon, I just wanted to meme with that image
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>>171740992
tempo forest wolfbolt and ptp forest
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>>171741081
My money's on the carrot.
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>>171741183
Ouroboros can burst stream now, carrot's fucked.
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>>171740443
Dragon hates Shadow because Nepcaust, Shadow hates Dragon because they can't bitch about being bad when there's an objectively worse craft.
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>>171740808
Go away you weakling.
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>>171740614
Oh no....
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Requesting a yu gi "victory is mine" edit with new dragon banish
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>>171741005
>Bandwagoners will have to spend 40000 vials crafting the legendaries
The mental image of them vialing shit like Seraphs and Neps is pretty funny.
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Draw your last pathetic card so I can end this duel
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>>171741342
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>>171740940
Jesus christ, how'd that happen?

>>171741005
>Try to meme
>People roping and bming me constantly
>Now I wont even be able to get away with it at dragon
Why even live. It's already bad enough until they finally figure out I'm running Laelia havencraft instead of seraph or guardian.
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>>171741005
If they didn't already have the expensive as fuck Ramp core they're screwed.
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>>171741240
>shadow hates dragon
No such thing, we fucking loved them for all the free wins in RoB.
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>>171741342
One card is all I need
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>>171741397
>tfw already have both storm ramp and saha ramp
>still super expensive since you need rahab, ouro,sybil and the new silver from the pack
Those alone will cost me another 20k vials if I can't manage to pull those
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>>171741529
Ramp will probably still be a meme because you autolose to combo. It wouldn't surprise me if face remains a better winrate.
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>>171741342
nothing personnel kid
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>>171741529
You won't need 3x Ouro. At most 2.

Still, 3x Sibyl sy-- Sybil and 3x Rahab and one Ouro is already like 16400, with a second Ouro, yeah, around 20.
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Just woke up, what's lightning blast?
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>>171741642
Nep removal
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>>171741642
A miserable pile of banishes.
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>>171741620
I'm thinking 2 Sibyl 2 Fevor is the golden ratio.
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>>171741642
6pp banish execution that hits the whole opposing board for 10pp. It's anudda shoah

Nep shitters will now know how it feels to get deleted
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Why Cygames hate us so much, Shadowbros
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>>171741342
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>>171741673
Indeed I wouldn't run 3 of both. Too much 5 pp ramp.

Can't run less than 2 fervor given our already rather shitty card draw. It's the worst when you ramp up well and then just sit on 2 cards at +8pp.
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>>171741697
Just stop playing a literal meme deck. Aggro shadow is and has been good, and they just gave you a truckload of good cards for mid-range.
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>>171741697

It's more important now than ever that we do not falter.

We stand strong.
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>>171741673
Why would you run fevor instead of Sibil? 1 card draw doesn't really compare to 4/5 body and a removal bait.
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>>171741719
>its a Unica and Goblinmount
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>>171741697
>oh no, I won't be able to recycle my zombies into more zombies untill opp runs out of removal
Serves you right.
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>>171741620
>rahab

I love this meme.
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>>171741741
You need it for draw. I wouldn't run it instead of, though.
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>>171741767
>Topdeck fervor
>Imprisoned dragon and unica
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>>171741793
You got eggs now though
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>>171741697
>Auto win 5/7 matchups and your counter is cards most people don't have, are unplayably bad in other matchups, and they have to draw it
>Oy vey
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>>171741869
Not enough. Our hand is our life.
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>>171741882
>unplayably bad in other matchups
? ? ?
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Something to keep in mind about eggs: if you draw them when you are in overflow, they do nothing until the next turn after you play them. So they're the worst top deck in the fucking game.
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>>171741990
B-but heals for 2

H-HEAR
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>when you meme just right
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>>171741882
>Auto win 5/7

:^)
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What is a dragon? A miserable little pile of discards. But enough ramp… Have at you!
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>>171742048
I blew air through my nostrils
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>about to lose
>take my time seeing if I have any way to avoid losing
>Waiting for response
>Waiting for response
>could it be
>Your opponent disconnected

Based Japanese cell coverage
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>>171741946
Draconification mostly.

>>171741990
You should be running them with the same or more draw we already do so they're just filling out turns when you got 6pp but you have to dragon warrior anyway
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>>171741990
That's why you mulligan for them on your first turn. If you also managed to emissary baha, you can play egg + bahamut.
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>>171741990
>implying I'm going to run eggs in anything but JO dragon
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>>171742138
I just can't convince myself about the eggs being not-shit.

Of course, ideally, if you get
>Egg
>Oracle
>Aiela

Or something like that, it's amazing.

In reality, it's going to be more like
>Eggs
>Bahamut
>Dragon Warrior

So you drop the eggs and they're a literal do-nothing until turn 7 where, because you wasted a slot that could've been something useful to keep you alive like BotS, you just may (in practice, but not quite yet actually) be dead before they even go off against, say, sword.
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>>171741727

Aggro shadow is boring as fuck.
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>>171742121
>caring about draconification when Dragon will have 6PP banishment

Wut?
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>>171741990
>overflow activates
>rowen gets SSJ aura
>turns into dragon form
>lays egg
>eats own egg for heal
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Dumb swordcuck.
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>All cards officially revealed
>Shadowverse portal not updated yet
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I have mixed feelings. Dragoncraft needed a card or two to be more viable, but introducing even more broken board wipe than already broken themis is the last thing that this game needed. With this shit amulet-based late-game strategies are over forever, commandercraft will be forever a meme, midrange bloodcraft and shadow are cucked, what's seraph?

Dragon still doesn't have a way to deal with dshift properly though, so maybe ranked will consist of dragons, dshift and random aggro.
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>There will never be a cute, plump leader girl with a fat butt
The craft that got her would instantly be the objectively best craft.
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>>171742406
Please stop talking about things you dont know, dragon is probably the single best overall class against d shift you fucking autist. You shitpost every single fucking day about how dragon is so bad when it will literally be tier 0 next expansion but youre still way too fucking autistic to see it. End your fucking life you c rank shitter dont ever post in the fucking thread again
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>>171742412

You. I like you.
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>>171742412
How would you tell if she has a fat butt? You only see their faces.
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>>171742364
I just got cucked hard by snowmen as Luna. If you can't fight them, join them.
Deck please.
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>>171742235
I definitely want the eggs. Might swap my unicas too. The eggs are at least a guaranteed heal unlike for unica, I could get soul swinged against sword. Mid game the eggs are still also useful in filling out unused pp's.
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>>171742492
Do you lose to dragon as D Shift? If you do, you need to start playing cards instead of just hitting "end turn" over and over.
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>>171740567
>amulet/follower banish in a class that can actually use it
Haven and Shadow just dropped to tier 5.
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>>171742406
it's literally themis against everyone except shadow, seraph, and ambush lecia memers.

storm ramp also destroys dshift,
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>>171742412
How plump?
Cammy is one of the upcoming SFV leaders you know. There's also Karin for pantyhose and ojou-sama lovers, Chun-Li just casually being best girl and Juri for feetfags.
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Dragon is great again you fuckers.

where are the memes now?
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>>171742597
Why are you posting a fat cow?
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>>171739672
I won 1 match as dragoncraft.
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Some daya ago i did the Führer Eris


but before i was looking at Mussolini and Hitler Pics, Rowen was Mussolini all this time.
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>>171742570
Tell me exactly what d shift does against ramp storm. Tell me exactly what d shift does against face dragon. Tell me exactly what d shift does to a sahaluci who ramps up, evolves lucifers and bahamuts, and rushes a satan. Tell me exactly you complete fucking shitter
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>>171742492
>dragon is probably the single best overall class against d shift you fucking autist
I have no idea if you're talking about ramp dragon or just dragoncraft as a craft including face dragon. If it's the latter your argument is irrelevant because only ramp will run this card to begin with.

Ramp dragon isn't in an unwinnable spot against Dshift, but the only way you can really win is if they waste their damage spells on Unicas and the like, and have rather bad draw. That way you can start slamming down GMDs and Imprisoned Dragons in hopes of avoiding +28 damage to face. You still most likely die to two shifts and two destroyers, but just one shift will never kill you, and you might even survive two at full defense and two wards.

That, and you're still going to be having a rough time trying to kill them because Bahamut is effectively suicide because it opens you up to some destroyer-to-face action.
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>>171742597
I don't want to deal with dragon.
pls make them bad again.
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>>171742592
Don't even remind me about this shitty crossover.
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>>171742048
>Prepare for the feet
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>tfw you draw is so bad that you lose to control haven with Call of Cocytus as wincon
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>>171742686
>forte doesnt exist
>genesis doesnt exist
>ramp doesnt exist
>lucifer doesnt exist
>satan doesnt exist
>aggro dragon doesnt exist
it must be really hard to live with such a tiny mind.
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>>171742592
Plump plump as in soft, not muscular big.

>>171742506
There would likely be canon art for the leader portrait and other official art depicting her too.

>>171742498
My melanin-enriched individual.
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>>171742689
>>171742642
KMD
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>>171742652
Rowen is Stalin actually, he's gonna fucking murder Haven with Lightning Blast.
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LOOKS LIKE I WILL VIAL NEPTITS AND SERAPH.

FUCKING HELL.
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>>171742671
>Tell me exactly what d shift does against ramp storm.
Kill them on turn 7. Ramp is hugely inefficient at beating D Shift's clock, all that time (and deck space) spent on ramping takes away from the win con, which is face damage. If they nut draw all their Fortes they have a chance, but all you have to do is play Ice Form at the right time and there's nothing they can do.
>Tell me exactly what d shift does against face dragon.
Congrats, this is the one dragon deck that has a legitimate chance against D Shift. It's not a control matchup so D Shift shouldn't feel too bad about this. Still, it's not full aggro deck either, so if the face dragon player doesn't draw most of their fortes by 5-6 they will still lose.
>Tell me exactly what d shift does to a sahaluci who ramps up, evolves lucifers and bahamuts, and rushes a satan. Tell me exactly you complete fucking shitter
If you're actually losing to Lucifers as D Shift, you really shouldn't be calling anyone else a shitter.
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>>171742671
You know average D-shit has OTK on turn 8, right?
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>>171739141
>>171739895
>better themis
I think you mean it's a better Bahamut.

>unconditionally clears everything on only the enemy's side of the board
>isn't a brick before 10 mana
>implying the 13/13 has ever been relevant anyway

I'll be shocked if the card isn't nerfed within a month of the expansion's release. It's even a silver, meaning Cygames won't have much hard feelings about refunding people with it like they do refunding any gold or legendary.
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>>171742761
Storm ramp may as well not exist until sword stops being a thing.

>Face dragon wins against Dshift
Wow who would've thought an aggro deck would win against Dshift. WOOOOOOW

Satan obviously puts you in a great spot if you also have wards to go with it but you don't run 3 of them. Hell, most ramp decks don't even run two. It's almost like I've played games against Dshift as SahaLuci and know it's very well winnable, but still far from being a positive matchup.
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>>171742849
They haven't nerfed Khawy yet.
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Runecraft
Runacraft
Lunacraft
Think about the implications.
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>Think ambush is finally saved
>Nevermind, AoE banish with no health requirement
JUST
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>>171742795
There is no point in arguing with you, you are seriously so fucking stupid and havent played either of the crafts in your life.
>>171742817
You know Forte, Genesis, Lucifer, Satan, Bahamut, and ramp exist? D shift doesnt run any wards OR healing and cannot remove big body followers every single turn.
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>>171742849
>I think you mean it's a better Bahamut.
>has no body
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>>171742903
What rating are you? Anyway if you don't believe me, just go look at the statistics. D Shift has favorable (by a landslide in most cases) stats against every ramp deck.
>and cannot remove big body followers every single turn.
Now you gotta be trolling.
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>>171742875
>face dragon
>aggro
stop to reas read here
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>>171742875
>this deck is bad against this deck because of this other deck
do you not think when you type?
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>>171742849
>It's even a silver, meaning Cygames won't have much hard feelings about refunding people with it like they do refunding any gold or legendary.
So Kikegames pretty much intended to use this card to break Dragon and in case it could get out of hand, they leave it as a silver so we won't get too much vial even after the possible "nerf".
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>>171742902
Bahamut does the same thing to Ambush anyway
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>>171742950
>just go look at the statistics.
Don't bother, people like him seriously believe shadowlog users falsify stats.
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>>171742902
Ambush is saved

>Mage of Nightfall
>Pascale
>Arriet
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>>171742950
>go look at the statistics
I see an irrelevant deck with a 45% win rate.
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>>171742515
It's not consistent though.
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>>171743009
Just puzzles me why he thinks ramp is favorable against D Shift, anyone who is playing ladder right now in AA or Masters has seen that slaughterfest.
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>>171742795
>Congrats, this is the one dragon deck that has a legitimate chance against D Shift. It's not a control matchup so D Shift shouldn't feel too bad about this. Still, it's not full aggro deck either, so if the face dragon player doesn't draw most of their fortes by 5-6 they will still lose.

Or you can just play 3 cost minions that they can't return via Kaleidoscope. My face dragon runs 3 Feena and in my experience it really screws them over because it places both a Feena and a Goblin on the board, that they cannot remove via kaleidoscope.
I don't even need to draw my storm minions to finish the job most of the time since I'm already spamming low cost trash via Khaiza and Goblin Mage.
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>>171743008
She was supposed to save us!
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>>171742968
Do you not think at all? Quote the part where I ever implied Storm ramp was bad against Dshift. Fucking quote it you retard.

Even past that, what actual relevance does a deck not played in the meta have? It's a cycle you fucking donut. If people play a lot of Dshift on the ladder, we will see people playing a lot of aggro and other decks that counter it such as fucking storm ramp. However, storm ramp is completely irrelevant now because it's not viable in this meta.

I'm just falling for bait here but sometimes I like to believe that someone out there is actually this fucking incapable of reading and comprehending what they read.
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>>171743051
Feena is another 5 drop to mess up your emissaries. It's already bad enough with sea and dance. If D Shift was the only thing I ever faced that would be one thing, but I faced more Daria with face than Shift.
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>>171742997
They probably planned the same thing with Khavy, except Khavy never pushed Shadow above 50% winrate so they had no good reason to nerf him.

If Ramp Dragon goes above 55% they'll probably strip the enhance outright.
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>>171743051
>just don't play any cards bro
They can just bounce their own Levi and golem, smartass.
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54211
I need a concede, thanks!
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>>171743149
>If Ramp Dragon goes above 55% they'll probably strip the enhance outright.
They shot themselves in the foot with that card though.

They remove the enhance and you may as well play Odins. Problem is, then nothing would've changed compared to how things are now.
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>>171743125
I don't use emissaries so its not a problem for me.
I don't use cards that equate to "do nothing this turn", if I did I would not stand a chance against aggro sword and similar decks.
Instead my face dragon is full of draws, especially goblin mage which draws out all my low cost shit making it statistically more likely that I will draw a storm minion in future turns.
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>>171743214
It does provide some limited teching with the 6 cost single banish though. I doubt it would see play, however. I think what they're trying to do here is just push shadow to abandon nep in the meta, once they do that card isn't really a problem and dragon won't have much reason to run it.
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You now realize that Aegis decks will actually be a thing because it's literally the only thing that can threaten lightning ramp.
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>>171741990
Is Ramp even going to run egg? It's already tight as hell for space and that card doesn't really do enough to warrant running.
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>>171743232
Fair enough. Different strokes for different folks.
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Who here plays sword?

Is Ninja Sword viable now for ToG?
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I almost lost to a guy running motherfucking Mithril Golem in ranked.

Shiieeeeeeet.
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>>171742849
>implying the 13/13 has ever been relevant anyway
It is, either directly or indirectly.

Without it, the enemy doesn't have to hold onto hard removal. It flat out wins you the game if it sticks and people know you run it. If you pressured them enough to have them waste it on other things by curving and ramping well, it just wins you the game.

It also prevents them from just shitting out a 2-3 followers immediately after it is played because they have to use pp to actually remove it.

Not to say I'm trying to argue that the new card isn't incredibly good. I'm just saying that the body Bahamut has is actually very very relevant.
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>>171743160
I did not say not to play cards, in fact I encourage you to do so as face dragon since it is beneficial to you.
I love it when they waste their kaleidoscope on Ivory Dragon or Unica, only to not have it when I have several buffed mushusshu on the board.
I just mentioned that if you play a lot of 3 costs they won't be able to kaleidoscope those, what I tend to do is a place a 3 cost down like Aeila or Khaiza, evolve them and go to face for 4 damage. They never remove Aeila anyway because they think you are a ramp dragon.
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>>171743291
Dunno. I'm more interested in trying out some Arriet mid-range. Once you realize D Shift and every forest deck will just slaughter you, it's hard to get excited about ramp, no matter how many 10 mana "broken" cards they give us.
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>>171742576
Eris will know Luna's pain. They will form unbreakable bonds while in despair. Together they will emerge from TotG stronger than ever before. They will cover over each others' weaknesses and start a new reign together. Allies, sisters, lovers, together they will be rise and become undefeated.
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>>171743254
>literally best removal card in the game
>dragon won't have much reason to run it
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>6pp do nothing is going to make ramp dragon T0
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>>171743214
6 mana banish is great though. If anything, I wish that the card was a neutral just with that effect.

No deck that runs odins cares about the desert rider that it comes attached to.
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>>171743274
They'll have a million tools to get rid of Elana early, though.
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>>171743351
>Mushusshu not getting wrecked by their 3 levis in a row
I want these games
>Aiela in face
Are you... memeing?
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>>171742576
At least Shadow has Aggro.

Haven will have 1% play rate in ToG, shit.

>>171743376
That's not how you use that meme.
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>>171743347
Dragon no longer cares about how much hard removal the opponent has because he has the penultimate carrot.
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>>171743428
aiela into urd has won me so many games it's not funny
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>>171743370
Hagfags can fuck off.
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>>171743375
>dead against aggro
>dead against roach/wolfbolt/etc
>dead against D Shift
>okay against Daria, but Bahamut is better there anyway
>powerful counter-tech against haven and shadow
Shadowverse more and more revolves around timing and specific turn clocks, so while that card IS busted, it's not necessarily going to be run in every ramp deck once the meta adjusts. You know there are ramp decks right now that don't run odin, right? Same sort of thing. Especially if shadow players just say fuck neptits and run mid-range and aggro exclusively.
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>cygames making followers more and more worthless

haHAAA
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>>171743428
It makes sense.

People often ignore Aiela because it's just a 2/2 and killing it will give you +1 pp on your next turn that you can make use of straight away. Very very rarely does anyone trade into it or remove it, apart from banishing it.
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>>171742778
Who is this titcow?
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>>171743494
On the contrary, this is probably the first piece of good removal in 3 expansions.

The game became incredibly follower-centric after RoB, with every "removal" being attached to a follower.
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>>171743494
Just don't play followers that do nothing
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>>171743387
Just statwise it would be 6 pp vs 8 pp banish.

You just get 4/3 out of that extra 2 pp which is actually great value. Dragon doesn't really run any 3-4 drops that you would benefit from if you played it at 10 pp. Unevolved dragon warrior does practically the same thing with 2 cards, Aiela is shit after you're at 10 pp, etc.
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>tfw the meta will be half ultra-aggro and half dshit/ramp
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>>171743468
Seems like a lot of dead value for a big gu--face dragon. At least Khaiza 2/2 for 3 is giving you infinite carrots. I need screenshots of Aiela memeing in face dragon at master, then I'll believe.
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>>171743428
I'll tend to save my mushusshu up until turn 5 or so, unless I have nothing else to play. By that time they are usually lacking in removal and can only remove 1 mushushu at best. I'll always have at least 2 Mushushu in my hand due to Goblin Mages and Feena fetching them.

Also Aiela is great in face because she is both a body on the board and a ramp, she is not a worthless "do nothing this turn" card like Oracle, having her allows you to reach your Fortes earlier which can be very beneficial depending on what you are playing against. Also as I said they never remove it so its free face damage, Aiela is an anti ward.

T. 300 Face Dragon Win AA player.
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>>171743491
>dead against roach/wolfbolt/etc
>banish is dead against wolf
lemao
>dead against D Shift
>not banishing ice form and going face
lemao
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>>171742780
is pretty hard to edit in my mobile .

but Rowen actually fits.

"Lenin is outraged that God sent him such comrades as the Mensheviks. What kind of people are they, really? Martov, Dan, Axelrod — circumcised Jews... Do Georgian workers really not know that the Jewish people are cowardly and no good for fighting?"
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>>171743330

>Mithril Golem

What?
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>>171743589
ivory, mushu, aiela, urd, then you just start slamming fortes and clearing with salamanders.
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>>171743597
Sounds like you play it slower tempo than I do. I typically use Mushys to make their first evolve plays really bad. It's one of the only ways I've found to beat good sword decks.
But yeah, I don't run gobu fetch, so I can see how that would play out differently.
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Not even aggro blood is safe.
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Is I'm just a mage, or Skyknights the I'm in charge now of SV?
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>>171743607
>banish is dead against wolf
Yes, why are you suggesting otherwise? Playing wolf out and not having it die immediately is a WORST CASE SCENARIO for forest. They want to trade it out when you play it. If you're going to banish a wolf that didn't die, might as well just use fucking odin.
>a bare minimum 6 cost removal for ice form is somehow super great
Come on man, now you're just stretching.
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>Cygames actually giving Dragon good cards to use when they ramp
This is the good timeline.
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>>171743370
>lovers

Hot
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>>171743618
>eris thought rowen would bully shadow for her
>but in the end it's him who would fuck her in the ass
Pottery.
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>>171743491
>dead against aggro
Not as dead as Bahamut

>dead against wolfbolt
Banish the wolf

>dead against shift
45% winrate lmao

>bahamut is better
Daria has no reach. If you live to turn 10 to Bahamut then you've won anyway. If anything leaving no body for them to dump runes/DoD into makes this card even better against Daria.

>powerful countertech against literally any deck that plays followers or amulets after turn 6
Fixed that for you.

Oh, and are you actually trying to imply that ANYONE wants to see a fucking board banish vs dshift meta?
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>>171743810
>banish the wolf
Is this a mainstream opinion here? Jesus fucking christ, I want to put a bullet in my brain pan to escape this existentialist hell.
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>>171743646
This dude. Spiciest memes, he ran that 7PP mage dude and Erasmus too.

https://i.imgur.com/pu9YbpG.png
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>>171743810
Ouroboros is a prime target for wolf to ram into
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>turn 7: wards/lame amulets for distraction
>turn 8: seraph
>turn 9: aegis (interchangeable with seraph)
>dragon banishes board with their 10 card leaving them with no defense/ward because of seraph
>turn 10: 2 kell + 3 gospel
How well would this work? I doubt haven has problems with drawing needed cards by turn 10.
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RUDE
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>>171743810
>Daria has no reach
Dumbest shit I've read all day.
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>>171740940
A preview of some Prince Catacomb boards.
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Reminder that ToG will be the Frozen Mammoth Meta.
>Daria played? HERE COMES A MAMMOTH
>Dragon got to 7? HAVE AN EXTRA MAMMOTH
>Atomeme? MAMMOTH TIME
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>>171743905
>>turn 8: seraph
No one will actually run Seraph-chang anymore, anon.

But yes, Aegis decks might be the control answer to the Dragoncaust.
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Is there anyway to make Ginger viable? What deck will work around her? Or is she going to be one of those meme cards?
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>>171743890
What does Dragon need Ouroboros for again? Shadowcraft is no longer a bad matchup, and it's too slow against everything else/will just be banished by other dragons. Lightning Blast invalidated the card's existence.
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>>171743428
MOOOOOOOOOOOODS
UNCENSORED NIPPLE
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>>171743936
Well he's the guy who thinks D Shift loses to ramp because of its overall winrate, so what can you expect.
>>171744035
Truth be told, I'm starting to wonder if the Earthshock Ogre might be better for pure damage. Yeah Ouro has recursion, but the "game is over" clocks in Shadowverse are so intense these days I don't really want to sit around and play Ouro over and over.
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>>171743697
Or control blood.
I think I've found my new master fundeck.
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What kind of retard says Storm Ramp is favorable against Dshift?
Unless you fucking draw godlike and the dshifts are at the bottom of your opponent's deck you're not going to beat the 8 turn clock. Numbers and winrate confirm this. Dshift will still beat any kind of ramp deck in ToG.
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>>171744027
dshift
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>>171744035
Wolf must ram into something and die. If your field has nothing worth ramming, you are open for roach attack.
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>>171743936
>>171743810
>Dumbest shit I've read all day.

Second that.

Like look at this motherfucking picture, JUST LOOK AT IT.
Do you understand how much damage I made just using spells and I STILL had damage in hand AND inside the deck, ready to pull with the FREE Daria on my hand?

Like I even won this game without actually attacking to face.
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>>171743409
niiiiice
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>>171744115
post dick fampai
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>>171744027
What followers are going to play along side Ginger anyway? If you're clogging your hand with big followers for the combo turn, how are you going to live to even play them? If you're going to play Flame Destroyers, then why even both with Ginger? You can't even cheat a big Runblade out since it needs the fanfare.
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>>171744116
learn to play the game
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I want to play Otohime-Aurelia midrange sword but Cygames won't let me!
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>>171743370
Too good to be true.
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>>171744116
>>171744086
>ramp loses to dshift
>literal solitaire meta

Thank goodness, I was worried for a second there.
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>>171744189
Check the thread.
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explain this to me svg

1 - does it work on future allied officers, or just the ones in play?

2 - can the officers be damaged by normal follower damage? like if my 2/3 officer trades into a 2/1 does it become a 2/1 or is it immune to all damage, the writing is a little ambiguous
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>>171744027
Garbage card
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>>171744259
Just slap in Gawain for turn 5 Otomeme
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>>171744274
>That other general quote
uh
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>>171744006

I don't think Daria will work, especially not with a spellboosted to lower than 7 here.
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>>171744259
???
What is stopping your from playing the best ward in the game and a board flood that is decent at worst? The only card you need to worry about is salamander since haven is dead now.
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>>171744168
It would be a shame if there were a mechanic that kept wolf from ramming into certain followers...

Thankfully dragoncraft has no cards like that, especially not ones that could be used as a win condition.
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>>171744306
>>1 - does it work on future allied officers, or just the ones in play?
Fanfare
>2 - can the officers be damaged by normal follower damage?
It only stops damage from effects.
She's just a sticky Liza that also prevents destruction but only buffs officers
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>>171744306
who cares?

its shit and it will never see play
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>>171744306

Ever in a game where you misplay with Liza first and then 3 fairies? Those 3 fairies are not getting any protection.
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>>171744360
Effects like that in game currently use its base cost. For example, when you discard a specific mana cost, it ignores enhance. Spellboost should work the same with mammoth I think.
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>Insight

>Maybe, maybe this magic will help.

>Its knowledge I seek.

>Vomited on board with full 3/4 creep.

How can this be allowed?
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>>171743428
Here is what I was talking about, that Aelia has been on board since like turn 4 and he just does not care to remove it. He could have traded in Crytalia for it, but instead he went to my face.
This pretty much allowed me to a lethal a turn earlier than if he had traded with Aelia.
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>>171744430
Don't worry you will start to bitch about dragon in 7 days.
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>>171744405
Fuck off loser
>>171744396
>>171744418
Thanks!
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O
N
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>>171744430
It's balanced because Daria can brick :^)
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>>171744449
>Unica
I have new concerns, anon.
Seriously though, it's cool that you made Aiela work. Maybe I'll test it out now that I'm in masters and can dick around.
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>>171744464
Doong
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>>171744430
>Wednesday, March 22, 2017, 8:07:12 AM
>people still complaining about daria
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>expansion about gods
>dragon gets a card that goes well with previous set theme (destroy everything)

What does cygames mean by this?
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>>171744560
It'll never end until it is nerfed into uselessness, Runecraft's niche is mechanics that are extremely unfun to play against no matter what.
On the other hand... let's not meme too hard and forget that Daria is STILL one of the most popular decks in Masters and AA. It's not bad.
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>>171744580
The sad thing is that there's not even many gods in this expansion, quite lame.
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>>171744580
>Expansion about gods
>Almost none of them will see play because they're all around pretty fucking bad
Nice.
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>every dragonplayer cumming over the banish card
>all I see is another dead card against Dshift

Well atleast we don't have to worry about nep and seraph anymore. And commander/control sword got murdered before it could be born.
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>>171744580
I thought the name was funny. They coulda gone with anything. "Destructive Breath", "Disintegration"... but no... "Lightning Blast". Because when you think a blast of lightning, you think everything being dissolved so completely it can't even have a corpse. A blast of lightning from a dragon is more deadly than Zeus, the GOD of LIGHTNING.
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Need a concede

47666
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>midrange board flood shadow with tech in tyrant as finisher
Or we could just drop Eachtar and go all in with the Tyrant meme.
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>>171744686
I feel the exact same way anon. Maybe these people just haven't played that many games of ramp. The thought of a meta where we play ramp and lose even more games to D Shift with no interaction makes me want to blow my head off. I hope mid-range is real and Ouro is a finisher.
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>>171744697
Thanks Mordy
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>tfw we'll never get proper control
>it'll always be stall until your I win card
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>>171744797
You're welcome Luna-Chan
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>>171744828
Yeah, that sucks. I really like genuine control matches. Can't have everything though, I guess.
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>ouroborus is too slow
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>>171744430
kys
dub
cuck
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>Coming back because the upcoming expansion looks fun
>tfw don't have any rupees saved up, and can't be bothered to grind out dailys since after all this time it's still Dariaverse
Rune's not going to be the cancer next expansion right? I can't stand this shit
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>>171744737
It's obvious that Shadow's going to have no choice but to go aggro/aggressive midrange with this set. However, I have to wonder if they'll even succeed if the premier control deck plays a 5 mana lucifer as ramp.

Dragon can now get to 10 ridiculously fast because the new legend allows them to ramp while playing an insanely good defensive minion every turn.
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>So many gold RoB cards never seen play in current meta

Where did CY go wrong /svg/?
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>>171744862
>save a dead card and an evo point until 10 mana
It's a good meme, but that's all it is.
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>hated rob
>TOG looks worse

certainly doesn't help how fucked aggro is now
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Phoenix Roost will be a legit play in this expansion.
Screen cap this.
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>>171744881
maybe if you werent a low iq sword player youd have fun with the game
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>>171740648
But she is.
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>>171744868
kys
sub
cuck
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>>171744891
Sybil has anti-ramp built into her. You can't play her on curve to get PP until you are at your real turn 5.
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>>171744862

>spending an EP over a meme

inb4 Olivia for unlimited EP. Just accept that your shota is a shittier laura.
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Why is nobody talking about the next Dr.Boom?
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>>171744962
>always lethal dragoncucks on the next turn whenever they play phoenix roost

i dont think i've ever seem a good use of that card
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>Wake up
>They printed Burst Stream
SAY IT WITH ME BROS
HIP HIP [ROAR]
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>>171745001

>7PP do nothing
>get blasted next turn anyway

He's definitely good, but right now I am wondering how Shadow can survive turn 6 4 Sneks or dragons.
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>>171744753
It sadly makes me think that the majority of the dragonplayers here are just memesters and don't play serious in the AA/Masters meta.
It's absolutely frustrating to play against such a common deck like Dshift. You hope you somehow can ramp fast enough to somehow win the 8 turn clock, but at turn 4 you always know that you're just too slow and can only lube up for the incoming destroyer pounding.
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What color are Arisa's panties?
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>>171745131
Elves don't wear panties
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>>171745131
>needing to ask
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>>171745131
Sluts don't wear panties
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>not drawing elf child may in starting hand against aggro

Is there any quicker way to brick?
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>>171744919
When they decided that RPS polarized matchups that end on turn 9 are more important than being fun and interactive.
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>>171745081
They can't. I don't have high hopes for shadow this expansion.

The best thing you can accomplish is to board flood continously from turn 7 onwards. But that's assuming you have several cards in hand to keep doing that. And also that you're not already simply dead.
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thoughts on this card?
so when you attack with bahamut and this still has 1 countdown left, it'll all be negated to 0? also i'm assuming that it protects your followers from damage too?

isn't this card great? especially early game, it's like some kind of super ward, for only 2pp.
this even makes it harder for your opponent to trade early game.
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>>171745131
White
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>>171745306
on turn 9 because the game's full of extremely high powered wincons*
>>171745347
It protects you from 4 damage
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>>171745347
I'm a little worried about all the tools Blood is getting. The obvious combo is the turn 6 serpents, but there's a lot of potential for blood to cuck shit up with non-conventional plays with this amulet and blood moon. I'm legit worried to see what actually good players will do with blood now.
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>>171745378
Oh, wait. I misread.Yes,
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>>171745347
Counters a lot of single-instance damage like Tyrant pretty nicely. Usually will just be a 5-7 heal.
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IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO BEAT THIS MAXIMUM TURBO NIGGER GOD DAMN

Anyone have a deck that has beaten this dude that isn't just an actual expensive forest deck? I've been trying for hours now
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>>171745151
>>171745167
>>171745363
Who am I to believe?
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>>171745081
Foul tempest and few zombies ramming against them and you still have 3-4 PP left
Alternatively necroassasin into corpse +evo will kill 3 of them
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>>171745250
>draw elf child may and double sylvan justice against aggro
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>>171745450
Just Roach lol
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>>171745378
>It protects you from 4 damage
no, but it says
>reduce to 0
and then remove the countdown, so i assume it'll block the full attack every time.
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>>171745450
Just roach it
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>tfw if dragon gets too prevalent, which it might, it means that Support Cannon memes and Roland will never see play
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>>171745450
>unironically losing to the AI
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>>171745478

Sounds lovely, but how are you going to stop them from not dropping anything to help you generate that 12 shadows for both tempest and death's breath?
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>>171745450
This nigger took me forever because I have none of the broken forest cards. Remember to bring angelic barrage.
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>>171745385
>tools
yeah, they've gotten a lot this expansion. not only in terms of swarming, and aggression, but defensive ones like this and garret as well. it is interesting to tinker with.
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>>171745534
Who said anything about death breath?
Zombies or any other followers are there after he didn't play anything worthwile for 3 turns
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>>171745512

PTP? Seraph? Random amulet meme? Stupid wabbit with eidolon?

Fuck them all. Have a blast.
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If I have this and another follower, can it damage itself? Or will it always damage the other follower? It doesn't specify "other" in the first line but it does in the second.
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this should be the test of strength card art
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>>171745450
i beat it without a single roach or leggo besides one wolf, which i didn't use.
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>>171745598

That Baphomet is going to evolve and ram into something killing off a x/4. Just how many followers do you expect to have to deal with 4 5/5s?
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>>171745626
Looks like they forgot to include the word other in the first sentence.
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>>171745626
youre not supposed to attack with this follower, this is a tempo play for right after putting down g sun
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>>171745626
I think she can hit herself, yes
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>>171745684
That's what I figured
>>171745714
I don't know if you're just trying to rile people up or if maybe I'm just an autistic fuck that gets upset too easily, but what the fuck is the point of this post? I didn't ask what you use the card for, I'm asking for clarification.
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>>171745491
>>171745505
>>171745525
>>171745575
>>171745651
I finally did it bros, got my bahamut out at last, also I only have one roach and I ain't paying vials so close to the expansion for the story, although I'll get roaches when I inevitably play forest anyway
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>>171745081
Shadow has this for the Sneks, and they are also allowed to build up a board because Blood has to spend 2 turns doing nothing for the combo anyway.
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>>171745665
First of all, what you are saying is a 3 card early game combo so it will happen veeeery rarely.
Secondly, on turn 5 you can have quite a few followers for that bapho to counter. Even 2 2/x and 1 1/x follower surviving to T6 will make 4 snakes dead with a foul tempest as long ans you have 6 shadows. Which you will after killing your followers on those snaks
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>>171744989
Dragon would need to ramp 3 times before turn 5 to lose the ability to make a ramp play with her, and even if that happens she's still a 4/5 lucifer that costs 5. The vast majority of the time she'll be played as potent stall that also gets Dragon to 10 even more quickly.
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>>171745626
She can only hit herself if you have another allies follower. If you don't and only have Zoe then she hits you for 2. If you have Zeo and another follower then she can either hit herself or that follower.
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>>171745626
She can't, otherwise the effect could never hit your leader as she'd kill herself.
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>just spent 20k vials on ramp dragon

When do I get my tier 0 ticket to masters?
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#fact: blast is the highest rated card of all ToG (93/100).

Best for other crafts:
Jungle Warden (87)
Freshman Lou (75)
Minthe (82)
Blood Moon (88, sieg heil)
Heavenly Aegis (80)
Israel (79)
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>>171745928
>spending vials one week before the expansion
oh shit nigger what the FUCK are you even doing?
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>That new card can banish Amulet too

Haven used to be our ally but now they gonna hate us too.
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>>171745928
Next expansion. Where are you at now?
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Post new cards you're excited to play that nobody else seems to be.
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>>171745824

>having 4 shadows to break their amulet on turn 3-4

inb4 desert rider. You will still be staring at 2 5/5s on turn 6.

>>171745847

>implying they cannot just wardrobe raider on turn 4 to kill off two followers

You must think Shadow counters Daria often enough too.
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>>171745967
>Minthe (82)

Retarded.

Good for memes maybe. Is that why?
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>>171745982
I can't keep Bahamut at bay anymore with Tribunal, Haven will either give birth to a very different deck or die.
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>>171746006

>just a desert rider

A fugly one at that.
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>>171746017
At the latest it can be used on turn 5, and it's really easy to get 4 shadow by then.
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>AoE banish that affects amulets too and only the enemy board
Defend this dragonbabs
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>>171746052
Tyrant fans?
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>>171745973
Still got enough to make a control sword deck

>>171745986
AA1
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>>171746006
I'm terrified of this fuck in arena already
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>>171746105
>turn 4 evolve
>kill something with 2-3 attack
>you kill one of their followers and get a 5/6
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>>171746017
>>implying they cannot just wardrobe raider on turn 4 to kill off two followers

Oh, so now we are turning this into a 4 card combo?
Daria is a completely differnt animal. It doesn't have t do 2 do nothing turns and have 3 specific cards in hand to do it's floods.
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>>171746105
>5/6 that recovers three defense at the end of turn for 4pp
>Desert Rider

He's a great card if you're going first, since chances are you can fuck up whatever evo card they play for practically, free.
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>Gold Havencraft Follower
6pp 3/5 -> 5/7
Fanfare: Banish an enemy follower with 3 defense or less. Then draw a card.

Rate this guy.
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>>171746186
cuckgel is still better
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>>171746105
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT WE HAVE GOLIATH CALL IT A GOLIATH A DESERT RIDER IS A 4/3 THIS IS A 3/4 FUUUUUUUUUUUCKING HELL
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>>171746105
But those are the stats of goliath, not desert rider
I've never understood this meme
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>>171746264
8
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>>171746269
only if you're fighting shadow or an aggro deck
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>>171746264
mediocre at best
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>>171746207
>i-it's a 3 cards combo! you cannot play any cards at all during your do nothing turn

A for effort in theorycrafting.
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>>171746264
>6 PP
>for a 3/5 that banishes and draws a card

he's shit

havencraft decks run 3x sacred prayer and blackened scriptures, on top of le holy cudgel man

he also takes places for cards like garuda and general
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>>171746264
What's that thing behind him
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>>171746264
weakness seer/10
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Why doesn't this heal face, /svg/? It'd actually be decent then.
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>>171746264
1 for 3 most of the time. Really strong card.
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>>171746264
If he said "banish a follower regardless of health", or had heal, great.

This way, too expensive.
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>>171746483
Spellboost card, dont want dshift to heal 20+ hp
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>>171746363
Good luck with your meme combo. Be sure to build your deck around it so Bapho doesn't tutor anything unwanted.
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>>171746483
>Healing for 25 on turn 7 while playing dshift
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>>171746264
Like an 8. 3/5 with good removal without priests evolve and a card draw is good, you have to be stupid to think otherwise. 3 power is good for those annoying times when fucking mordecai is at 5 health and you need to do two to get him into scripture range or some shit. It's good.

>>171746527
Havan already has that. It's a 5 cost removal. You want 3/5 of body and a card draw for only one extra mana.
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>>171746483
You mean it'd actually be broken then
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>>171746559
Elena only procs when you heal yourself, not other followers.

I checked the moment I read his card.
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>>171746587
Sure, I bet you think Baphomet will fuck up and tutor out Bahamut right, smartass?
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>>171746626
just like your dick lol
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>>171743574
R A H A B
A
H
A
B
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>oh more cards revealed? lets see
>i am betting the dragon one is a joke as always
>dragon gets their own silver legendary

OH
MY
GOD

YES!
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>All cards revealed
>Still have to wait 1 week for the expansion
Goddamn I have 8000 gold, I'm so pent-up, I want to blow my load already
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>>171746647
But elana synegryzes with sticky cards, unless you kill ut in one move it will grow and trade
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>>171746650
You're right, they had to ban me from Japan because I kept taking all their women.
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>mfw I just woke up to find out Dragon is autowin against shadow and haven next expansion
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>>171746264
Not a bad card. Just can't see what deck is going to run him, since storm has plenty of 6s, Seraph is dead and he has no Elana synergy.
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>>171746743
yeah sure

but what are you taking out of your elena deck to accommodate them?
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>>171746713
>tfw only have 2k gold
I guess I will buy some crystals ...
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>>171746650
How will I ever recover
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>>171746790
Kel will save haven
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>>171746790
>haven

Only seraph scums. Aegis is the new lord.
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>>171746790
>implying Lightning Blast kills Aegis
10PP do nothing SeemsGood
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>>171746790
I'll just migrate to cancercraft
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>>171746649
Why would I think that?
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I was going to get ahead of the game and craft 3 odins but decided to wait even though we were only waiting for bronze to be revealed. I was thinking there was no way odin wouldn't be useful next expansion.
Is it true they announced khawy last too? Maybe they are printing broken cards just so they can nerf them later. Kind of funny that shadow needed a broken card just to get back up to a 48% win rate.
It's even funnier when you realize that same card is completely useless this expansion and shadow is going back to being the worst class in the game. Hell, even blood will be tier 1 material.
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>>171746913
Haven here, we can be tier 3 together, Lunachang.
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>>171746847
>>171746850
do tell, what kind of strategy did you guys come up with

because as far as I know your face is forte's plaything when you place that 9pp do nothing on the board
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>>171746790
>Drop Aigis
>Drop Seraph
>"God ahead. Spend 10 PP to leave my kill machine alone on the battlefield."
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>>171746913
Entitled shadowscums deserve it. Khawy is the most cancerous card for 3 months. They need to pay for it.
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>Tier 0
Dragon
>Tier 1
Sword
Rune
>Tier 2
Blood
Forest
>Tier HEAR
Shadow
Haven
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>>171747012
Can't hit face when test of strength is on board
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>>171746886
Because you seem to think that some 3 cards combo is oh so hard to pull out? Your inflated ego might be the reason why you think a blood will fuck up the baphomet pull.
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>>171743036
What rank are you? I think i got memed by you yesterday.
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>cygame makes a banish all followers card
>cygame gives haven a mord that can't be banished
literally what the fuck?
they're just spitting on us now aren't they?
If anyone told me this would happen 6 months ago I probably would have quit the game by now.
>>
>lightning blast

How is this allowed? What's the point of last words followers now?
>>
Now that we're past the shock of seeing Dragon stand a chance against shadow, what does it do against sword? Are Rahab and Sibyl System enough? Tier0Breath does make the new sword legendary a non-issue, but Albert is still going to Albert.
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>>171747040
>Khawy is the most cancerous card for 3 months
The delusion never ends.
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>>171747161
Get the rope ready shadowbab.
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>>171746790
Dragon was already autowin against Haven.
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>>171747194

Frontguard gets fucked hard by blast
Rahab warding up on turn 3 or 4.
Even Grimnir clears board late game.
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>>171747187
>>171747161
>>171747050
>>171746913
SHADOWPEDOS ON SUICIDE WATCH
PRAISE CYGAMES
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>>171747194
Can't say for aggro or others, but Control Sword vs Dragon was always a game of "Can I draw 3 answers to Bahamut by turn 7"
Now we can't even establish a good board state and furthermore Roland is literally deleted
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>>171747050
>>171747161
This whole situation is just like one of those "femdom" doujins where the girl starts out dominating the guy until the guy gets fed up and turns the tables on her.
>>
Which craft is played most by virgins?
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>>171747348
Well everyone who plays this game is a virgin so all of them I guess
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>>171747208
>You have a 13/13 with storm
how high are you my mang??
>An 11 damage combo that requires just two cards and one evolve
yes use a legendary and a gold that can not be tutored, have 5 shadows, use an evolve, leave only a 3/3 on board, AND requires two turns to set up

meanwhile, in swordcraft..
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>mfw nep was just a fad and shadow will have to go back to playing aggro
nice goddess you have there

cerberus is still the queen of shadow
>>
>>171747352
need luna version of this.
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>>171747428
>>You have a 13/13 with storm
>how high are you my mang??
Tyrant, slut idol.
>>
Post yfw Dragon will literally make all your memes stay dreams.
>>
>You guys have the two best legendaries.

Which ones?
>>
>Roost + ouro + that guy that gives storm
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>>171747305
yeah except the girl was being raped since the very beginning and in an "ironic" twist she gets raped even harder by yet another rapist while she is still being raped
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>>171747537
Cerb and Atomy?
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>>171747459
So that's how you remember the kanji for laugh
>>
so when is the expo coming out?
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>>171747549
more like roost + die
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>>171747627
30th
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>>171747549
You mean Roost -> Ouro Ouro
And then watch as the other guy tries to vomit their hand trying to outvalue your INFINITE value
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>>171747040
>Khawy
>most cancer
>when daria exists
>when albert exists
>when roach and dshift STILL exists
It's an autowin against Dragon but that's about it.
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>dragon has more tools against aggro
>dragon destroys seraph and nep now
How do you even beat dragon? fucking bullshit tbqh
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>>171747567
>atomy
heh. also, they're "the best" compared to what? all of swords legendaries blow cerberus out of the water and she's a pretty good lego by herself

hector seems versatile enough so maybe we'll get an actually good legendary that'll actually stand the test of time
>>
>TotG got so many amulets just to be cuck by dragon

Sasuga Cygames
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>>171747428
>13/13 storm
Tyrant
>Cerb Howl
Card rarity doesn't matter, 5 shadows are piss easy to amass, you always have an evo point left on turn 6, 1 turn setup being playing Cerb
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>>171747102
If you build deck properly it's a 2 card combo, sure. Still, you will not get to play it on T6 even with a 50% chance and you are acting like it's easy as hell to pull this off along with keeping enemy board mostly clear while wasting 2 turns to prepare for it.
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>>171747040

Khawy is a pain to deal with but he's a turn 7 which means you can banish it with Odin next turn
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>>171747567
If he meant Cerb and Nep, then yea, they're definitely good. Not best, obviously.

>Minthe and Eachtar

No.
>>
Daily reminder new T2 batch. It's from the opinions of 4 players, so at least it's more "accurate".

http://imgur.com/a/PhcJy
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>>171747660
it was an auto win against
>lol tier 1 ramp dragon guys XD
that was it
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>>171747697
>turn 6 DoD
>more tools against aggro
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>TotG
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>>171747759
>Nep

Like Fly King before her, she is leaving the meta when ToG rolls in.
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>>171747791
Was referring to Rahab and Sybil most likely.
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>>171747194
Dragon has so much healing now that getting them to Albert seems very hard.
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>>171747708
>you always have the combo ready for turn 6
>tyrant is comparable to albert
wow we got ourselves and expert here don't we
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>>171747697
>How do you even beat dragon?
I still can't believe this is real life
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What is the point of Spring Cleaning? Just to dilute the Sword pool in Take 2?
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>Shadow get fucked the hardest
>/svg/ actually ok with it

Why Shadow get so much hate here?
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>>171747978
It fixes your curve if you play it early. It's not terrible. It doesn't seem good enough though.
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>>171747767
>Avant
>Inifnity

That being said I fucking hate how now it's half D half S rank

For example Madame Lich is rated D, despite passing the vanilla test, meaning at the minimum she should be B
In fact it seems like passing the vanilla test just isn't enough anymore to be 'decent'
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>>171748004
Mord?
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>>171747708
>he's going to play that 2-turn amulet or a desert rider on turn 10 to get a storm 13/13

Damn, how come I didn't think of that pre-ToG?
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>>171748004
Nobody like murderous psychopath
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>>171747708
>Tyrant
proven times and times to be a meme simply because you can't pull it off reliably, and people have tried everything with it (even as far as using ptp on the same deck). we'll see how it fares next expansion though, I sure as hell will going to be trying it
>Cerb Howl
very hard to pull off, extremely telegraphed, gets cucked by any turn 5 ward, nevermind the fact that you need to forsake board presence for optimal damage. now we have wards and healing up everyone's ass, so I dunno

it's not looking good but I play every craft so I might as well play something else on the side if shadow gets shafted into oblivion again.
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>Shadow needs to make a whole new deck every expansion because cygames can't into balanced meta
>other crafts just add cards to make the decks more solid

Why nothing good happens to us
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>gravekeeper sonia won't get hurt by dark jeanne's effect
>curves right into her
Best couple?
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>>171748004
Because this thread is for people without mental illness ...
Then again, we had Dragonfags here all the time too ...
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From this
>>171288751
to this
>>171722958

This expansion has truly been a wild ride for dragon
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>>171748041

The problem with madame is that she is a Gold, and therefore needs to pit with legendaries and other gold powerhouses like Mordecai and Death's Breath.
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Post webms please
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>>171748004
>Why Shadow get so much hate here?

>in good state throughout the entirety of the expansion
>kept complaining

>got good cards in TotG
>kept complaining

>used to complain about the Haven bully, but actually made fun of Dragon when bullying them

You Shadortards are cancer and deserve it.
I hope you enjoy Dragon cock.
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>>171748004
I play Dragon so I'm just enjoying this role reversal.

I also find le killer lolis XD very boring and needlessly edgy characters.
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>>171748153
No, because Dark Jeanne is trash.
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>>171748004
Pedophilia is wrong.
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>>171748004
It does not impact any shadow decks I actually play.
Because I only play Deathly Tyrant and PTP Shadow.
Nepnep decks can go die for all I care.
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>>171748004
Because posters like this >>171699775
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>>171748163
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Friends I have joined the league of Fortes and bought the prebuilt deck. Now how do I change my character to her when I play ranked?
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>>171748059
>murderous psychopath
Eris?
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>>171748153
They'll be BFFs.. in a tier3 deck.
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>>171748292

>PTP Shadow

I hope you like getting BLASTed
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>>171748293
>bullying sword
who cares
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>>171748168
This applies to the entire list
Reno is 10, despite passing the vanilla test and then having clash and evolve effects
Mayniu, Sky Sprite, Nightmare, Swordship Maid, Gardened, Swift Infiltrator, mirage defender and so on are all ranked D despite passing vanilla tests, having effects on top of that and not being gold+
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>>171748308
You have to buy the Forte leader and then change to Forte in your profile settings.
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>>171748180


>in good state throughout the entirety of the expansion

t. Rune main
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>>171748148
>Getting new deck-defining legendaries is somehow bad
Ok
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>>171748180
Tbqh everyone made fun of Dragon, including Dragon players.
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>>171748378
oh wut....
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Private match quest help please
93968
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>>171748412
Aggro Shadow has been below 50% winrate after they got Reaper.
Nep has never been below 45% and just climbed in winrate as people refined their builds more and more, now sitting at 51% winrate.
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>>171748316
Luna
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>>171748004
If you haven't noticed, most of the people here play dragon or enjoy shitposting with dragon memes.

I think the nonnep shadow builds got some neat toys to work with from this expansion. It's not like Shadow has absolutely no outs to whatever else dragon does and the spell is a 10 pp card that essentially gives you the opportunity to shit out more followers with Eachtar, Thane, DB and Goblin Princess
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>>171748541
>has been
*has never been
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>>171748362

Reno has to compete with cudgel, lion and most importantly Aria. Some nips actually rate a draft based on whether you get Aria or not.

Ultimately, it's just a guideline to help you to draft. Sometimes you will need to pick the lower score pair so you can get your curve right.
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>>171748541
>now sitting at 51% winrate
and now it will be gutter tier for the rest of the game
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>>171748529
Please
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>>171748638
>You Shadortards are cancer and deserve it.
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>>171748541
nep can thank the daria and roach nerf for her rise in winrate if anything, and now she can thank BURST STREAM that she'll be trash forever lmao
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>>171748624
I understand that, but rating everything else low means it's much harder to figure out what to choose between 2 D-rank choices

And if you look in the neutral list, Fighter, Sektor, Lyrial and Unica are all ranked the same score, despite everyone else being a powercreeped version of Fighter.

I'm just pissed that seeing vanilla stats I could at least guarantee that it was at least B rank so I didn't have to always double check the list.
This doesn't even apply to me that much anymore since I only use this list to compare 2 cards and get a 2nd opinion if I'm stuck.
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I just gave up on Forest

I grinded this shit up to lvl 68 and I'm fucking fed up with all these do nothing cards

Forest needs a follower that gains storm based on how many cards were played before it so they can actually fucking do something instead of just sitting on the board and waiting to get removed on the next turn
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>>171748832

You only get one Neutral draft with every T2, so the chances for you to get all those 2PP are rather unlikely. Of course, given options, obviously Lyrial and Unica are the better pick.
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>>171748962

Forest doesn't need shit. You have your fucking roach.
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>tfw no stream
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>>171748962
>fat kid crying because his cake is only a three decker, not a four
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>>171748547
But Eris wants "liberate" the world by killing everyone. You can't be more of a murderous psychopath than that.
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>>171748962
Have you been playing without Roach or what?
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>>171748987
I definitely had runs where I was given neutral only options twice
Anyway, I won't bother arguing, I'm pretty sure we made eachothers' points clear to one another.
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>>171749006
watch a jap you racist
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>>171748962
Just roach bro
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>>171749006
>wanting to watch other people play games
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>>171748990
>>171749049
>>171749164
>>171749038
Why did you even take that post seriously? It was obviously a shitty joke about roach.
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Weak should fear the strong.
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any deck building sites that have already included tog cards?
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>otohime is still a ridiculous card, just not a win condition against haven and dragon anymore
>endless crying
>sword is dead
>muh class
>shadow is legit fucked (again)
>nah guys just man up
>just tyrant them on turn 6 bro, your class is op
>better than albert
seriously?
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>>171749283
>netdecking before the exac even comes out
>>
What deck I should I invest into? Yesterday Dragon was a meme, now they are beyond godlike
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>>171746264
>solid card
>ppl rating it trash

Now I know why /svg/ cant get out of A1.
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>>171749316
i really cannot understand your first 4 points
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>>171749353
not netdecking you dildo

as in being able to make my own decks
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>>171747560
Rowen also defiles Eris and Luna now, that's the real twist
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>>171749134
Eh, nothing to pick a bone with. In fact, I am currently doing a Haven run with it right now. So far, it has been winning me the first two rounds.
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>>171749358
Honestly just wait for Nips to give you netdecks a few weeks into the expansion.

Worst case scenario you'll waste tens of thousands of vials making a deck that won't see play, or making the wrong legendaries for that deck. As usual, people are likely to be really, really wrong about many of the cards that were revealed. At least one of the "oh this is unplayable garbage / this is pretty meh" cards is going to end up super good.
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>Lets make this a night a to remember
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99890 - Concede to me cutie.
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are the end of the storyline quests supposed to be utterly unbeatable unless you have tier 1 decks?
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haven back to dumpster tier again

i dont know what i expected but DE was fun i guess, bye chemobros
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>>171749639
You don't need a tier one deck, I've beat it all with some shitty decks with my beginner cards and some crap I got from packs. Only neat thing I had back then was 1x Levi Mage
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>>171749639
You just need to modify the default deck a bit and include some of the cards you got from your packs and stuff.

Alternatively, just search for a budget deck for the craft you want to clear the story and try making something as close to that as possible.
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>>171749701
That's what they get for just trying to stall the game out as long as possible. Ultimate no fun mode.
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>>171749701
Just Aegis bro.
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>>171749760
is there a way to bring up the default deck to modify it?
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>>171749283
Shadowverse portal should update soon, last time it updated a few days before RoB hit
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>>171749605
Please, come here.
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>alot of the bloodcraft cards tog brings with it are completely awful
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>>171748004
Fuck shadow and their gay ass Khway

Hope you faggots die of cancer
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>>171749903
Thank you, cinnamon bun!
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>>171750054
At least we have blood moon
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>>171749432
I want to defile Eris!
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How many tickets are they going to give us? 15?
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>>171750054
>Turn 4 Blood Moon
>Turn 5 Baphomet
>Turn 6 Maelstorm Serpent
>Turn 7 OTK

I think Aggro Blood's got a new form of cancer.
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Have you removed dshitters today?
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>>171750207

THEMIS
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>>171750207
>three card combo
>aggro
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>>171750206
They normally give 10.
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>>171750206

10 probably
>>
YOU CAN BANISH MORDECAI

YOU CAN BANISH KHAWY

BUT WILL NEVER

EVER

BANISH MY TYRANT AND MINTHE

HUHUHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>171750207
>aggro
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>>171750207
>>Turn 6 Maelstorm Serpent
>Turn 7 Enhanced Lightning Blast
HEAR
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I was planning to main haven on the next expansion just because Themis exists, but this new dragon card... What to play now svg?
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friendly reminder that only control sword autists complain about dshift
friendly reminder that c sword players want to trap eveyone into a 20 minute long curvestone match and win by flooding the board over and over again until something finally sticks

if seraph and dshift were removed from the game, they would unironically complain about mordecai being overpowered
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>>171750495
ELANA HAVEN T0
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>>171750523
why would controlsword hate dshift with their new leggo?
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>>171749865
Go to the deck screen and instead of clicking to make a new deck, choose to copy.
Then you can select the default one by pressing the arrow to the right to move to the default deck screen.
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>>171750495
Everyone should be playing Dragon from now on. It will be the new tier 1 cancer, especially at Masters and high AA, where people actually have the vials to build the deck.
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>>171749865
When you create a new deck, choose the Copy option. Then choose the default deck from the third page of deck list.
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>two T2 games where Cyclone Blade fucked my board up because they played ambush followers

Can't make this shit up
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>>171750495
Aegis Haven. You've got an indestructible follower now.
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>>171750495
>>171750603
Fucking band-wagoners, just play whatever the fuck you like instead of switching crafts like the mindless sheep you are.
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>>171750603
>dragon will have 50% playrate next expansion
what a time to be alive
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What is the math behind becoming a T2 player? Considering it just drops classic packs when is it worth to just spend gold there?
>>
29542
In need of a concede.
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>>171750603
No more memes, only victory now.
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uh guys

what happens if someone plays a heavenly aegis with a guardian sun in play?
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>>171750419
HHUEHEHAERRRAAAAAAA HERE COMES MY TYRANT
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>>171750603
I hope dragon will be good.
But not most popular.
I hate going against dragon vs dragon because its pretty much a ramp war.
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>>171751034
Most likely nothing.

Or it makes Eris tier 1.
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>>171750984
>so good you get 5-0 all the time and get 150 rupies with every games
>whycan'tIholdthatmanypacks
>endless vials

Pretty much.
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>>171751001
Thanks Meido
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>>171751034
>>171751109
More like test of strength and Aegis
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>>171751034
it doesn't gain ward, also you died 2 turns ago to lamp dragon.
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I almost hope dragon will really be broken shit next expansion so everyone can see why it was better for ramp dragon to be shit/average tier forever.
That way next expansion they might nerf some of their bullshit and focus on a healthy discard and megalorca deck to try salvagin that mess of a class.
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>make shitty rune mspaint edit about rune being good
>rune gets nerfed a little
>make shitty dragon mspaint edit about dragon having shit
>dragon gets great cards right at the end
I guess a sword or shadow edit is due soon
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>>171751109
eris being affected guardian sun would mean it also get shat on by bahamut and themis, it would be trash so i hope not
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>>171751198
What class isn't a mess
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>>171751301
haven

glory be!
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Anyone else remember playing this hidden gem? Good times huh?
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>>171750984
If you are new then it's a nice way of getting to know each craft and play around with a lot of cards, while at the same time increasing the size of your collection.

If you already have a sizeable collection and a couple decks to play with, then T2 is either worthless (because you can just buy the expansion packs to get what you want) or it's a way to get high value out of your gold (by going 5-0 and 4-1 consistently).

A leggo is worth 3500 vials, so if the leggos you want are not in the basic expansion and you can't get 5-0/4-1 on every run, then buying expansion packs is worth more, since you will get vials anyways and there is a chance you might luck out and get the leggo you want, getting the full 3500 vials value.

One thing to remember if you are an older player is that Cygames sometimes have events where they change the T2 reward to other packs. So saving your tickets is a possible way of getting more value in the future.
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>started a couple of weeks ago
>rolled 2 neps
>buy shadow prebuild
>unpack another nep, finish deck
>craft garudas and themis for storm haven
>having fun
>both apparently being BTFO in 8 days

well at least I have a combo blood deck to fall back on...
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>>171751353
GLORY BE!
>>
i just started playing and I guess there's a reward for playing 20 private matches?

can anyone help me with this quest?

23011
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>>171751370
>khawy
literally WHO
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>>171751216
Do we have more edits or comics like this?
>>
Haven't played since the start of the last expac. Daria was all the craze when I stopped. What's the meta now? Can someone post link to all the new qts in upcoming expansion?
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>>171750984
only when you have spare tickets AND a quest for a shit class
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>>171751459
Storm Haven is not significantly affected by it, only Seraph is.
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>>171751562
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

All of the new cards have already been revealed
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>>171751562
Dragon is the meta now.
No meme.

If you want to see new expansion cards, check this link:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/
Everything is there already.
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>>171751574
storm haven is outdated 40% winrate dumpster trash
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>guy literally just ramped t2 and t3 with aiela then conceded
Gotta appreciate those moments where I can still laugh at dragon.
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>>171751459
could have been worse
you could have done all that AND crafted daria and roach only to get them nerfed right after
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>>171751643
>dragon meta
hear the dragons r-roar is yestermeme now?

>>171751637
thanks anon
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Got the turn 5 lethal meme.
Sorry Dragonbro
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>>171751646
t. D0
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>Pulled 2nd Neptits from free RoB packs, no intention of buying more RoB
>Eh, maybe I'll finally make the 3rd. But lets wait for the rest of the reveals
Dodged a huge bullet there. I might even just vial the Neps now.
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>>171751574
How so?

He can stall with his anti aggro tools and banish your board turn 7.
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>>171751370
Khawy, more like KhaWHO?
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>>171751731
>hear the dragons r-roar is yestermeme now?
Not now, but once the expansion hits.
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>>171751758
where is Elana?
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>>171751731
Rowen is about to finally unfuck his shit
>>
Hip Hip Hooray emote when
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>>171751731
Dragon t0 soon, anon.

>>171751495
Good game man.
Help this anon with his achivement if you can, guys.
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>win 4 games as dragon or shadow
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>>171751849
It's Eira bishop.
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>>171751758
>running bishop
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Will unranked finally be fun again with all the Nepshits and Seraphs banished? Is Rowen finally the hero the game needs?
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>>171751562
Daria got nerfed but still very dominant. Unga bunga Albert sword is the newest op deck. Forest get nerfed unfairly yet again and it is now trash tier with the smallest population. Other decks are about the same level. New expect will be released soon so expect some heavy meta shift. Forest looks completely fucked though so dont invest in this craft. Cygames hates forest if their heavy handed trigger happy nerfs didnt tell you already. Play some easy crafts or pet crafts, like Sword Rune and Sword. Dragon and Blood seem popular as well.
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How the fuck do you beat this AI in the new story quest? This is some fucking bullshit.
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>>171751938
>mfw 4 games as dragon next expansion
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>>171751804
>anti aggro tools
Yeah, those are sure stopping a tempo deck.
>banish your board
You are overestimating this. No, not saying it's bad, but Dragon ramping to to play it on turn 6-7 will not be a common thing. Salamander Breath is a bigger threat, but it doesn't always kill your board because a lot of your followers are relatively fat.
Storm Haven loves Ramp because they don't do anything in the first few turns so they can set up their amulets as much as they want. It has a 60% winrate against Ramp right now. Ramp's winrate will probably increase, but I doubt it will suddenly turn to Dragon's favor.
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>>171751950
No. There will always be something to keep the dragoncucks in their rightful place.
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>>171751981
>forest nerf
>unfair
Roachfuckers everyone
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>>171751536
If you're asking for all edits that /svg/ has made you're gonna be here a while
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>>171752064
>albert
>fair
>roach
>not
swordtards everyone
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>>171752104
I'm interested in some. You can post what you have though
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>>171751574
Oh well that's good. From all the apocalyptic reactions here I thought Haven was dead in the water
>>171751671
I suppose I got it pretty good then. How were Daria and Roach nerfed? I can't imagine them being any stronger than they are now...
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>>171751981
>Forest get nerfed unfairly yet again
They nerfed a fucking neutral card, that other classes were using too. The actual problem with Forest is that they got nothing else from RoB (wolf is still meh tier) while making 9000 anti-token spam counters. Roach will make a comeback in ToG now that you have beetle and selweyn's to make up for your missing early chip damage.
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>>171752104
Is there a new dragon edit of this with Rowen, Lightining Blast and Luna?
If not I will make one.

>>171752212
Have this one.
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>>171752064
T. Shitters who cant adapt.

I spotted so many mistakes from my opponents. Roach forest players reviewed their replays a lot and fixed their mistakes. What have those whiners have done except whine? Now the new expac even included more new cards that counters roaches after the nerf. Talk about babysitting shitters.
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>>171752292
>If not I will make one.
wait until we actually see the raping in action m8
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>>171752212
I've saved a lot
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Post your dragon memes while you still can lads for their value will plummet very soon.
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>>171752347
>wait until we actually see the raping in action m8
I will be too busy with work to make it then, probably going to miss the pack opening threads too.
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>>171752059
I don't care about Dragon, I just want to be able to play something other than aggro or combo in unranked.
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>>171752405
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>>171752405
We need an edit with the new silver in an legendary border.
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>>171752313
>I spotted so many mistakes from my opponents. Roach forest players reviewed their replays a lot and fixed their mistakes.
What the fuck does this have to do with how absurdly OP Roach OTK was?
>What have those whiners have done except whine?
I put in more wards only to still get raped by Wolfcoming, thanks for asking.
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>>171752292
I'll race ya
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I'm glad Dragon will finally be good, be isn't it kind of retarded to have the strongest board clear in the game at silver rarity for take 2?
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>>171752610

The board clear effect is only available at turn 10, you're already in a shitty situaiton if that happens
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>>171751418
Thanks for the insightful response. I am not super experienced but I've been playing since november or so. I can consistently get 4-1 if I can choose sword or dragon, but I guess I will save the tickets from now on.
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>>171752005
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Jumped to the Masters today, guys. 3 times failed trials, though, it was really stupid and unpleasant.
But it only took me 9 days to reach masters from AA2, making 1000+ ladder points per day feels just great.
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>>171752005
>mfw that deck costs far too much and i'm stuck with discard dragon.
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>>171752694
>deleting the enemy's board while keeping your own is a bad thing now
Give those dragonbabs the best card ever and they can still cry about it.
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>>171752610
Should be fine at 10pp.
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>>171750603
So now we're playing dragoncraft, alright. it's time to take a break from daria and MIDRANGE sword.
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>>171752865
can be played earlier because of spellboost duh

aegis is too slow
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>>171752865
>t5 Daria
>t6 that nigga
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>Be me
>Be trying to get my final albert
>unpacked an extra bahamut and liquid it for 1000 dust
>Finally create my 3rd albert
>still have enough for one more pack
>fuck it why not buy one more ROB pack it's not like I will get lucky and..
>I GET A FUCKING ALBERT

MFW
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>japanese confirmed retarded
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>>171752778
Took me 3 month to clear the game. Well, I start to become serious only after B1, but still the ammount of victories needed is unimpressive.
But on the other hand I have played almost all the crafts on the ladder and really had fun. Mainly Haven, though as you can see.

Gonna post all my ladder decks in case some poor player refuses to play netdecks, but wants to use all his availiable cards, just like me.
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>>171752865
Lol, dumbasses. Even flame destroyer is 10 times better and no one runs him in daria deck.
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>>171752865
>worse stats than Daria
>worse effect than Daria
>same cost
This card is trash and just a brick exactly like Flame Destroyer. GameAI is retarded.
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>>171753005
I would like to see some, anon
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>>171752865
They gave lightning blast the same rating as wise merman
what the fuck
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>>171753005
Midrange-ish variant of aggro bat. Good deck, I'd rate it as 'B'.

>>171753109
Gladly show you em.
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Dragon is officially the NOFUN class.

it counters most of the powerful tools that other crafts got this expo.

>sword player summons Roland
>gets banished along with his entire board

>blood player combos his snakes
>gets banished along with his blood moon

>Nep, Eachtar into death's breath board
>Seraph
>Gsun
>Ambushcraft
Etc. Etc.
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>>171752991
>anomaly got the same score
how does this shit work
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>>171752865
>GameAI ratings
I can sure see Daria players wanting to brick more often for a mediocre card. Run that Enchanted Sword shit too, only 2PP after Daria; what could ever go wrong?
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>>171752991
>>171753183
Nothing more needs to be said
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>>171753221
That's what you get for memeing about us.
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>>171753186
That is my aggro shadow variant. But main striking forse is not Howl, but Tyrant. Very strong deck, I'd rate it as 'A'.
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>>171752580
>Wolf meme
So 9 turns and you cant win against a deck with bad value followers and let him kept 20 dmg roach combo cards on top of wolf. Please explain why you should have won. Do you call dshift op? I have t7 dshift or 2 flame destroyers way more often t7 roach otk.
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>>171752991
>It deletes a class from the game, counters Seraph, and is still good against any other class
>3/5, it's okay I guess
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None of the new forest cards seem that good for constructed play
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ROWEN MAN
TIER 1
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>>171752991
They rated Tarzan 2 and fucking dragonslayer's price 3. Game-ai is just japanese gamepress.
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>>171753350
>wight
>attendant
>1 cerberus
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>>171753451
you'll just do like you always did

rely on roach
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fuck controlcucks

RoB had the game heading in a good direction with casual, fast-paced games

ToG is all about controlfaggotry and extending games for 20+ turns so it takes even longer to climb ladder

fuck cygames
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>>171753350
That is 3-4-6-7-8 Nep-nep deck, but I teched-in Tyrant. It's kinda weak in the current agro meta, so I rate it as 'C', but It can unexpectedly rape D-shift thanks to t9 Haunt+Tyrant combo after the t8 Nephtys.
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>>171753485
Tarzan is good but not good for Forest
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>>171753221
Doesn't hit Aegis. If you're any other class enjoy 3 more months of aggroverse.
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>>171753485
tarzan will be hot trash though
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>>171753267
But the funny part is that you may think they gave wise merman that rating in the context of neutralcraft, but no, because 4pp 7/7 owl has an even lower rating despite being a much better card for neutral.
Shit just doesn't make sense.
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>>171752991
How could this be bros? Our revenge for the Khawycaust is just a shitty 3-star. IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!
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>>171753540
That is my D-shift deck. Nothing interesting. Quite normal, 'B'.

>>171753496
Wight is underrated, it's just a little bit weaker Shadow Reaper. And I have no more Cerberus, just 1.
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>>171753451
Beetle. And, uh. Yeah. So back to the same old builds for another 3 months.
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>>171753530
t. unga shitter

If you could fire two neurons together you would realize games will end early on turn 7 now when the dragon player exiles your whole board and you concede out of rage and bitter tears.
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>>171753561
>>171753620
>Talking shit about George of the jungle
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>>171753496
What's with attendant hate? It's a solid choice and he has soul conversions, urd to combo. On the other hand weight's weak, i agree, literally anything would be better.
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>>171753485
you win before turn 10 with forest most of the time using roach/bolt. good card, but takes away useful spots from helping you achieve your actual win conditions
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>>171753561
>>171753620
t. d rank

It's a better wincon than anomaly.
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>>171753734

fuck you controlcuck

time to fire up my dshift deck :^)
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what are the solid classes of this game? the weak ones?

what should I focus on as a new player?

I kinda like the elf lady, kind of like a zoo deck. I don't want to play control any time soon, but midrange / tempo / zoo / aggro are all up my alley.
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>>171753694
Storm Heaven. Very strong deck, rate it as 'A'. Finished my Masters Trials with it.
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>>171753791
>It's a better wincon than anomaly.
wow and that's really hard to accomplish right?

you're better off comboing with roach at that point
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>>171753612
by your turn 9 the dragon would already have had an insane pp advantage over you making it much more difficult to keep board and survive, Aegis is just soooo fucking slow.

I guess Eris has to stall like crazy to even compete.
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>>171753828
Swordcraft and Forestcraft are usually the strongest classes in every expansion.
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>>171753828
Right now, Sword and Rune dominates. There's no truly weak class.
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>>171753837
That is disco Dargon, started paly it only in AA2. Not particularily good against aggro, but that is the fastest OTK deck I have. Rank 'C'.
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>>171752405
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>tfw dragon gets buffed
>tfw fotm faggots will flock to dragon
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>>171753863
That will require you running bunch of fairy generators and low cost cards.

Tarzan is for control forest. Not roach OTK/wolf bolt. Also, wolfbolt will be less reliable when Roland gonna be everywhere.
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>>171753530
>casual, fast-paced games
t. pirate refugee from HS
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>>171753828
Forest is shit tier atm and really hard to play for a new player

blood and sword are the best aggro classes because of how bursty and fast they are

i dont play shadow, rune, or haven
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Since we can't meme about Dragon anymore, who's going to be the designated cuck class in Tempest?
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>>171754036
Haven.
It's like poetry
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>>171754029

HS is RNGshit and it only took me a couple games to realize that

never looked back since
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>>171753973
Elana-Seraph. Very powerful deck, my main force in the all AA. Have almost no weaknesses apart from bricking and some though face-dragon decks.
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>>171754036
Everyone will be a cuck to Aegis.
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>>171754036
Dragon killed Nep.
Aggro Shadow is mediocre right now and will be total trash when every craft have new control cards and early ward like Rahab and Grimnir.
Minthe is a meme.
Midrange Shadow won't be good enough to beat Midrange Blood/ Csword.
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anyone else know that feel?
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>>171754036
Considering Nep is going to go from bullying Dragon to getting bullied by Dragon I imagine Shadow will be the class that gets made fun of.
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>>171753828
Sword > Rune > Forest > blood > haven > shadow > dragon.
Neutralcraft is around blood level.
>>171754094
Fast paced with low draw and tutors are about as rng as HS
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>>171752991
This really make me think tough.

Which cards should we replace to make space for this? We already have Forte and Salamander for 6PP.
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>dragon legos revealed
>eh its okay
>last dragon gold revealed
>lol dragoncucks
>last dragon silver revealed
>DRAGON TIER 0
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>>171754098
Pure Seraph. Quite strong deck against aggro if not bricking. Don't know how to rate it 'B' or 'A', since it may brick a lot.
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>>171753451
>heal for 20
>heal, ward and restore evo
>new Roach
>2pp 2/2 -> 6/6
>on curve stats ward that doubles as a new Albert
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why did best boy and girl not get new story?
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>>171754228
Quite the roller-coaster.
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>>171754226
salamander the most versatile removal you have and it's autoinclude no matter what, it's still amazing at 2pp so there's no problem
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PUT BAHA
I SAW YOU SUMMONED HIM WITH SAHA
DO IT
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>>171752405
>>
Does Phoenix Roost affect Enhanced cost?
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28850
Onegai
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>>171754190
>Neutralcraft is around blood level.
You mean when the expansion hits right? Because neutralcraft right now is little more than an unplayable meme.
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>drag the game out 20 minutes
>still lose

dirt niggers pls go
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>>171754373
no
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>>171754373
sadly no, I've learned it the hard way
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what the fuck did i miss? dragonbros got saved? what year is it?
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>>171754373
No, there's no way to reduce Enhanced.
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>>171753828
Dont play elf. It is hard to play and unrewarding when other classes just slap on op cards every turn but you have to burn your hands and ep to take back the board. If you work hard to gid gud cygames will nerf forest which they have done 3 times already so players from other classes dont have to.

Pic related.
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>>171754373
No, enhanced cost is always what's printed.
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>>171754373

no, and neither do dragon emissary or wyvern cavalier
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>>171754230
And finally OTK Roach which lifted me from A to AA rank in several days. But then nerf happend and I have to cut all the 1pp folowers. This deck is pretty strong even now, but not really reliable. 'B' to 'C' rank. But anyways it's at least will give you +-0 points on the ladder.

That is all my budget ladder decks. I don't have any Baha, Albert, Daria or Wolfbolt, so there are no such cards in my decks, but I believe that poor players like me can climb succesfully anyways. Good luck, /svg/.
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>>171753451
>>171754242
Forgot about
>3pp kill all aggro
>1pp 2/5 ward
Kill yourself, petclass tumor
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>>171754373
No. Enhance costs cannot be reduced in any way.
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Does anyone have a picture of Mordercai with that Duel Disk?
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>>171754378
Thank you
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>>171754431
>>171754436
>>171754460
>>171754478
>>171754501
>>171754512
Ok, thanks guys.
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>>171754551
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>>171754471
>3pp 6/7 ward
>5pp 7/7 ward
>20 roach damage from hand turn 7-8

hard to play indeed.
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>>171754635
Thank you Anon!
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>variants that confirmed dead on day 1
>nep
>haven and family

What did I miss?
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>>171753413
The deck is a DShift on steroid that doesn't die to aggro but rapes that matchup instead simply due to it being a Forest deck. Control decks are too fucking slow so they can't pressure it for shit, so they try to counter with more wards only to get raped by Wolfcoming anyway. The deck's only real weakness is that it can't answer Daria's board flood but Daria bricks like a motherfucker anyway compared to Roach's ungodly consistency.
>Do you call dshift op? I have t7 dshift or 2 flame destroyers way more often t7 roach otk.
Yes, DShift is fucking bullshit cancer of the highest order. It only has low winrate because it's shit against aggro but on the Masters ranks where more people play control it gets to rape fucking everything.
>I have t7 dshift or 2 flame destroyers way more often t7 roach otk.
You usually do enough chip damage with bird and fairies that the opponent will be in the killzone by T7, even failing that T8-9 is definitely the OTK territory with any decent hand.
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>>171739970
>impllying Lighting Bolt isn't literally a reference to Burst Stream of Destruction
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>>171754832
>lightning bolt
kill yourself hearthcuck
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>>171754689
Everything.
AOE banish that clears both followers AND amulets is ridiculous.
none of the new board floods can even be used, Roland can't be used either.
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The draws ...
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>>171739672
>someone used your weeb gibberish for the OP
Thanks anon, I still have no idea what I meant with the ARU, I was tired
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>dragoncucks actually got an aoe banish

Poor Luna, literally nobody in this game is in shadow's favor.
RIP Nep. Shadow is back to being a shitty one trick pony aggro deck.
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>>171754890
Just play around it bro
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>>171754832
>Lighting Bolt
?
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>>171754979
>I still have no idea what I meant with the ARU
"all"
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>>171755013
Yet another example of MtG shamelessly ripping off Shadowverse.
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>>171754856
>>171755013
Wait, it's not called Lighting Bolt? What is it called then?
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>>171754982
I actually feel sorry for shadow right now and I use to hate you motherfucker and Khway with passion

Banish is AIDs
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>>171754673
Go climb with forest if you havent dusted all your forest cards already.
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>>171752865
cunnyverse players are fucking retarded lmaoo
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>>171754982
Even aggro won't be as good with cards like Mangrove.

I'm afraid Luna is gonna get bullied.
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>>171755134
Lightning Blast, close enough.
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>>171743428
This is off topic, but someone give me the name of the Doujinshi hes reading there. I need it.
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> entangling vines only gives -10/0 until the end of the turn, not until the end of the opponent's turn

I need to learn how to fucking read, man.
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>>171754982
Midrange Shadow will be a thing, it may not be top tier but definitely very fun to play, just like Nep. Cheer up, Lunachang!
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>>171755149
I used to say, as a shadowfag, that I wished they had never printed Khawy. They were forced to print an answer to it for a craft because it was getting eaten alive by that single card, but this ends up invalidating a whole deck plus a bunch others from other crafts.
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>>171754796
DARIA BRICKS GUYS
DSHIFT IS UNRELIABLE GUYS

Nice meme. Explain how rank 1 master climbed 10k mp exclusively with dshift and daria.
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>>171755338
The Economist
>>
Avant Blader is actually really good. Why people don't run her?
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>>171755379
did you quote the wrong post?
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>>171755431
A lot of people run her.
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>>171755431
>Avant Blader is actually really good
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should I craft valhallaman for stormhaven?
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>>171755585
He's a strong 2x, basically replaced Moonrabbit
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>>171754796
So combo decks counter control decks. Rock beats scissors. Slower wolf decks get beaten by faster decks. What is the problem? Also many control decks bring heal like saha dragon.
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>>171755431
Messes with Maid>Albert
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>>171754689
Roland kills roach, silverbolt, anomaly, and DShift
Forest kills aggro with constant wards, Reno and amulets.
Blood kills aggro, and things that doesn't have good AOE
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>>171755584
Good in arena.
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>>171755653
sweet. thanks!
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>>171755338
Akikaze Otome
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>>171755431
In T2 she's insane, along with Floral, Jeno and Monika
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>>171755702
>dragon kills all of those.
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>two normal Unicas
>one animated Unica
Why does this trigger my OCD and why do I have the need to craft another normal Unica even if it's useless
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>>171754689
Guardian golem ER. Now its all about Halo golem, levi, giant, elder mage into pascale/professor bombs.
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>>171755807
What happens if you have 1 animated and 2 normal legendaries? do you waste 3500 vials for another?
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>>171755807
Autism.
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>>171755668
The problem is Roach OTK is a combo deck that rapes BOTH aggro and control. And heal is a non-factor for Roach, the only thing that even remotely counters it is wards.
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>>171755947
That too would trigger my OCD but at least I know legos aren't expensive so I wouldn't bother crafting another normal one even if it annoyed me
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New bread
>>171756307
>>171756307
>>171756307
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dead thread dead general
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>>171755703
You mean an instant win right?
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>>171755980
It doesnt rape control decks. Any control deck with wards and heal is advantaged against pure roach forest. Midrange decks is favorable as well. Including wolf and homecoming makes the deck more susceptible to midrange aggro but stronger against control. Wolf can be played around. It doesnt die on zombie ward, nor gmd, nor guardian golem.
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>>171757176
>It doesnt rape control decks. Any control deck with wards and heal is advantaged against pure roach forest.
Which is why players on the higher ranks tech in Wolfcoming to counter that.
>Midrange decks is favorable as well. Including wolf and homecoming makes the deck more susceptible to midrange aggro but stronger against control.
Good thing Daria killed all Midrange decks with it being the only one left.
>Wolf can be played around. It doesnt die on zombie ward, nor gmd, nor guardian golem.
That's just delaying the inevitable. Not to mention the deck also plays WotF and DoD to deal wards or board flood.
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>enjoy playing seraph
>it's going to be deader than it already is
>aegis meme is the only replacement for haven
End me famalam
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