/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

It's finally back.
Spitfire Revolver on Sharpshooter is dope af

Not even an update can wake us up.

>>171668114
>nuked is an official map now
gz

Commando with stoner and m16 is FUN

Wonder if the anons that wanted lmgs and lmg based class are still around? They got half their wish it seems. So I'm guessing waves are just rooms in descent?

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>We're back
How're you all doing lads?

>>171669278
every wave is in a different level, the order of levels is randomized between the first and the ninth wave.

>>171669439
Moved on to other games. My map remains in unfinished stasis. We'll probably die again soon.

>Join empty Suicidal lobby and wait for it to fill up.
>Level 20 Berserker joins, immediately readies up, leaves 10 seconds later when I don't ready up.
>Level 17 Berserker joins, immediately readies up, leaves 6 seconds later when I don't ready up.
>Level 14 Survivalist joins, immediately readies up, leaves 7 seconds later when I don't ready up.
>Group of people join, they all ready up and I do since the lobbies full, halfway through the game they weld me into a room with 2 scrakes, a flesh pound and what felt like atleast 20 stalkers and crawlers.
Really wish there was a fun way to play this game alone.

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>Stoner does less damage than the AR15 at 9 weight
>Flare Revolvers do less damage than the 1911s while having the same cost and weight
Kinda underwhelming

>>171671026
I figured the lmg would do less damage before this update.

>>171671026

We dont want any OP weapons, do we?
Might make the game fun.
We dont want that.

>>171668984
>GOOD MORNING, VIETNAM!

>>171668114
[Spitfire Revolvers]
>annihilates trash and medium zeds in 1 shot (let them burn for a few seconds)
>Overall more useful/viable for trash than emergency big zed killing
>absolutely ass versus big zeds efficiency-wise, Trench Gun spam still better
>can have a single revolver with T3 and Trench Gun if you want to sacrifice med pistol

9/10 pretty gud addition

[Stoner LMG]
>Shit Damage
>Reload speed tolerable with Tactical Reload, painfully slow without
>stuck with 75 round mag unless you sacrifice reload or Hollow Point Rounds
>literally the only reason a mando would use it is for the new map
>Fun to hold down LMB

6.5/10 Meh, desu Suicidalist might be better with it using Spontaneous Zedsplosion.

[The Descent]
>Random order of a specific room types
>Incredibly small and cramped rooms
>SS/GS nightmare, Mando/Demo headache, Firebug/Support stomping grounds

7.5/8 out of 10, designed for chaos, firing squad sim 2017 fuccbois best not apply. The only rule is spray and pray.

>>171672054
just get someone to play firebug with you and its the perfect roleplay

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>>171668114
>game still resets your keys every fucking update

>>171673030
Didn't for me.

>>171673030
It didn't this update, probably happened to you an update or two ago and you just haven't logged in since.

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>>171673293
>>171673096
My game just crashed trying to set my keys. I changed Iron Sights (Hold) to RMB, but it didn't clear Iron Sights (Toggle) from RMB. Then when I tried to clear Iron Sights (Hold) it had an aneurysm. Now opening the controls crashes the game as well.
>just change the .ini
I know, but holy shit.

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Nigga we back for the day

Stoner 63 buffs WHEN?

>>171673030
>Game reset my keybinds before and after the update came out.

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>the weapons people have been wanting since day 1

>THEY DO NO DAMAGE

AAHAHAHAAHAHAHA HAAH AHA HA AH AHAHAHAHA AH AH AHAHAHA

>>171674508
The flares do the job pretty well, but its not like in KF1 where they drop a scrake from flarespam as a firebug, effective on slinger but that's mostly thanks to ReU

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Nice, Stoner look like shit plastic and the reload animation gives me motion sickness. Keep up the good work Trip!

Anyone else CTD every time you try and deal damage on SomeTestMap?

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cuckmandofags btfo

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>>171671026

flare revolvers are actually great if you use them onperk, offperk they're pretty mediocre

stoner has no recoil and more ammo than a P90 with just the level 5 ammo perk

>>171676552
>stoner has no recoil

just like in rl

Sharpshooter finally has a sidearm to carry with M14/Crossbow. I'm happy with Spitfire. You can do Railgun/500 Magnum/Spitfire build too. Good for both trash and big zeds.

Compared to Flare Revolver, Spitifre is more for small/medium zeds. Cannot drop scrake from dual flare spamming like KF1.

Stoner is ok. Really need a damage buff/ammo reserve.

The Descent is fun. Endless M1 spamming. Get bored after a while tho. I hope they improve the maze.

this update is going really slow for me for some reason

can someone tell me if spitfires are break open revolvers like the flares?

>>171677903

they are

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post kf2 memes

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>>171678380
and it turned out to be true, too

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>>171678380

>>171678491

I would play on this server.

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It sounds like a RRRRL Commando with the Stoner would be fun. Probably with Demo rifle to fill up your empty weight. Can anyone test and come back with results as I'm in lecture right now and I won't be home until 5 hours from now.

>>171678784

>Making a build for a single weapon.

wew

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>>171678380

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download muh mod and upboat muh shekel grubbing skins so I can buy beer, which i will then convert into more weapon models
https://youtu.be/HDdiZsbkYAQ
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=888134329

>>171678864
>Meta playstyle 24/7
wew

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>>171678380

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>>171678380

>>171678443
>female characters that females would want to play as and not characters that male players would want to look at
>females have to be ugly to be good characters
>no one would ever want to be pretty
This new approach (the same as ME:A seemingly) confuses me. Why would you want to play as a mutated looking landwhale instead of someone attractive but also capable i.e. Bayonetta. This goes for both sexes of course, but it's often the focus of some weird virtue-signalling when it comes to females in games.

>>171678940
but kf2 doesnt allow mods in multiplayer

all your work is literally useless

>>171678940

I know it's you Gibson. Don't try to act like a /kfg/ modder.

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>>171679031
unless the server has it too
you're not playing on PUBLIC servers, are you, anon?

>>171679031
>but kf2 doesnt allow mods in multiplayer
Have you never fucking played on a custom server?

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>>171679138
yeah, i dont want to be in a 0/6 custom server

>>171679013

It's actually because Gibson is an uber-Christian and doesn't like women with nice ass and titties because only sinning whores have and show them off.

>>171679356
[flashes his phone to public, with his gf as wallpaper]
:thinking:

>>171678553
what convention was this for?

>Try to use server browser to try out Descent.
>No results.
>Use the matchmaker because I figure if there's any time it should work it'd be on an update day.
>Get into a game.
>Get "Removed from the server" one round in.
>Use the matchmaking system again.
>Keeps dumping me into Nuked instead of Descent.
good game

>>171679580
No idea mate. I just remember being in the threads way back when it was originally happening. That was probably like 2 years ago or something. Fucking hell.

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Spitfire PSA: The flare they have a chance to leave behind is not considered a grounfire. It doesn't get boosted by the skill.

Against a clot at max level the groundfire was doing 26 a tick with and without groundfires on. This was without the 35% damage skill. It's 35 per tick with that skill.

When the Microwave gun was OP again groundfire made it's damage explode, and the damage boost did almost nothing since groundfires worked strangely. This time the damage skill is straightforward, and the groundfires don't work at all.

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>>171679013
>we will never have this

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Good to see you boys again, how have you been doing without this containment general?

>>171680516
>containment general
How is it a containment general if we're dead most of the year?

>>171680659
It was at least a containment when we had hopes and dreams enough for this place to be alive

>>171680393
>sample

>>171681107
You don't deserve better.

>>171681235
Seems more like you don't KNOW better.

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>>171680516
I've been fucking fantastic anon.

>>171680393
>meme girl
I can live without it

>click join server

>nothing happens

>>171681867
>nioh
I should get back to that. I got to the weird bat bitch and stopped because I'm in the middle of exams and coursework and shit so I didn't have time to vidya much.

wow the descent sucks ass

>>171682654
Great fucking game. So good in fact that I even bought the season pass and I think season passes are fucking retarded. Since the last thread /kfg/ had, I've only been booting up the game to get the daily drop and sell it/craft items. I've about $10 saved up between this and csgo.

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Shit's on fire yo

>>171683032
>Ana

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>>171683032
>

>>171683032
>Ana

>>171683032
>Ana

>>171683032
>ana
Get out you nigger

>>171682767
Don't you love being forced to use multiple zerkers just to fleshwall all the shit that spawns on top of you?

>>171683776

But...but Zerkwalling is no longer viable!!!

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I missed you guys.

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>>171680516

I know where Yoshiro has been.

Is there any way to set up a script to autokick people who play Ana?

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>>171684336
>you will never huddle at the back of the farmhouse bedroom behind the zerk
>you will never be met with chaos of flames, explosions/nukes and bullets flying out the doorway
>the spam increasing rapidly causing chaos as soon as the scrakes and fleshpounds charge up like its a half price special on pints at the pub
>the absolute chaos when the zerk dies and everything funnels in with no escape
Those were terrifying times

>>171684837

DELETE THIS

Is Firebug gud? I want to use the Flare Revolvers again.

Post some gameplay of this soon, i dont have the game anymore

>>171684837
KICK THE WICK

>>171685303
Its pretty good and the revolvers give it some versatility/longer range fun

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Fuck, the StonerBoner is so fun to use but the damage makes it obsolete from the get go. They better buff that shit to atleast 40 DMG.

Nuked is really fun, unlike all the other maps, there isn't a 100% reliable campspot so you better get good at kiting. Well, from what I played so far.

Descents gimmick is pretty fun. Rooms are tiny as fuck but they didn't strike me as a negative thing.

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HOLT SHIT FLAREGUNS WITH UNLIMITED AMMO ZEDTIME IS OP AS BALLS

>>171685030
More like boring times.

>>171685030

go play a fucking moba or something with your tank bullshit

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All the panic buttons have been engaged!

>>171688258
>All those raged Scrakes on fire
This is why no one fucking likes Firebugs.

>>171687472
The parry skill makes Zerkers supertanks still. I think I remember it equating to having 40% more effective life, and since it's reduction it makes healing more effective, comparatively.

>>171688258
>burning Scrakes
>Firebug
>Ana

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>>171688524
The fucking fire lingers for so long it's literally impossible to not set shit on fire yo.

>>171688663
parry makes you block everything for like 1 damage for the 10 seconds

They might not be the most effective firebug weapon but holy shit the spitfires are fun as fuck.

>>171688869
I know how you can avoid it, it's a secret so don't tell anybody: play literally any other Perk.

You know descent would actually be a pretty decent game mode if the maps weren't such clusterfucks. If people just made it as if you have 10 maps in one it would be fun.

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>>171689050
>Inb4 Anafag switches to Survivalist

>>171689121
You mean "10 maps in one" as in each stage is themed entirely differently? Or each stage shares the same central theme, as if they were cutouts of one bigger map?

Nuked feels like a KF1 map. I like it.

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>>171668114
That looks like a cheap gym add.

Is the arsonist in yet?

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>>171678380
PUT ANDERSON BACK IN THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY

>>171689617
Lol i played survivalist last game.
shit was on fire

>>171691012
DON'T JACK MY MATERIAL YOU VANILLA SLUT, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT FILENAME
PUT ANDERSON BACK IN THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY

>>171685734
Is that you "shut up white bitch" poster?

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>>171691246
Is it painful?

>>171691304
shit >>171691246

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>>171691232
Just thinking about it makes me tremble in despair.

>>171691430
No.

>>171691429
Of course it's you, Cameronposter.

Where's MA?

>>171691573
No. I'm just memeing this because this general is a shambling corpse abandoned by all.

I miss patty's hair and silhouette.

>>171691783
Your MA has evolved into Survivalist

>>171691012
>Want new characters but at the same time realize it'd be pointless for them to be added since I refuse to unmute the voice volume and open myself to the non-stop HON HON HONing.

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>flamethrower/RPG survivalist
Feels devilish

>>171691952
Very funny. Where's MA?

Fuck im so rusty at shooting

>>171691973
>Maxed all perks
Fuck new characters, give me something to do with all this useless extra exp I'm stealing from sub-25 shitters. Or better career records, at least. Tell me how many goddamn FPs I've decapitated or how many times I've been spin-to-winned by Gorefiends.

I want horrifying personal stats to screenshot and post besides my playtime.

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>some fucking holdout mode out of nowhere
>objective mode that has voicelines since the beginning still not in

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Feel free to join our wholesome discord for the last bastion of Killing Floor 2 discussion.

https://discord.gg/e2mffzs

Also featuring other games.

All* are welcome

>>171693075
>Didn't finish the FP off after it was knocked down
What a shit Demo indeed

>>171691973
>not having Japanese trader

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>>171693192
>still no objective mode
It was flawed in KF1, but its what made it fun in a way. You start out by doing a simple bit of welding, next thing you knew a fleshpound walks on the scene and everything goes to chaos straight away. It was fun.

Is the new commando gun good enough for HoE?

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>>171692116
You just reminded me there's a free weekend incoming.

>>171693665
is stef still a thing
I refuse to join if there's a chance I'll have to interact with that fuckwit

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>>171678491
>no shotgun

Why?

>>171694556
around the time when resistances were about and shotguns got nerfed so bad you may as well have been nothing

You have ten seconds to explain why this game feels like it has less personality than the first.

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>>171694801
Resistances......

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What's TW's deal? 3 new weapons and a slightly modified gorefast after months of nothing. ARK spits out new dinos by the dozens every year, payday2 adds shit loads of new weapons, f2p games dump out new Characters every month but these fuckers just refuse to play ball. Where's the new zeds? Where's the weapon packs that add weapons for all the perks? Why did they think survivalist was even remotely good.

>>171694026
yeah i heard he tried to ban people for posting anime when he got mod and spammed furry porn, kinda fucked up desu.....

>>171693665
>>171694026
>>171695175

>Stef is still around
lmao no thanks.

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>>171694854
Kf1 = serious guys being goofy
Kf2 = goofy and politically correct (insert preferred pronoun here) being serious

>>171695298
Nailed it.

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>>171695219
but seriously though i dont even know who is actually upset with me, i dont remember ever harming anyone, i get accused of being a master troll even when i don't remember having done anything

so tell me where on the doll i touched you sweetie

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>>171692582
>he doesn't know

>>171694854
Because people always remember things in the past more fondly.

>>171695590
but wheres the doll?????

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>>171695736
ANSWER ME. WHERE IS MA?

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>>171695867
right here ;o)

>>171695952
Scrapped because it was "too similar to Berserker", it never made it past the ideas stage.

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>>171695952
rip

>>171696521
>too similar to Berserker
What the fuck are SWAT and Gunslinger then? Survivalist doesn't even have anything unique to it, it's literally just the "i'm an indecisive bitch" class.

>>171697067
What the fuck are SWAT and Gunslinger then?
A Perk with high capacity mags, high rate of fire and a mobile Perk with low capacity mags but high headshot damage?
The only similarity between the 2 is that they shoot bullets.

>>171697021
Fool. She lives on, in my heart.

>>171697067
I get they wanted new perks to show off for a sequel, but damn if the original classes weren't perfect already. All roles had been fulfilled and the only way they were able to make "new" perks was to Frankenstein them out of existing perks into what we have now. The medic would have had decent weapons had it not been for the swat class and sharp shooter would have had better backup weapons to help clear trash and still take care of the larger zeds. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>171697021
I want Zerkchan to sit on my face

>>171696030

I want to touch a Clot on the crotch!

>>171697838
yeah and adding sprinting and faster zeds that glitch over obstacles makes it harder to get headshots. SS was so fun in kf1 because of the easy headshots

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>>171698475
yall play too much, just too much...

>>171697515
>>171697838
What the fuck is SWAT even for anyway?

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>>171698475
stick you pew pew in clot's mouth y/n?

>>171698848
Going rat-tat-tat, and decaping SCs.

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Tripwire made some pretty fucking good fire effects to be honest

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>>171697838
Because MORE VARIETY

I don't have too big an issue with things getting split up if it balances out and gives more of a set "role", but that's not the case here.
Slinger has power, speed, mobility and ammo. It came from sharp, who now just has power, slinger took the ammo benefit too as well as being given speed/mobility "just because".
It has the tools to do as it pleases and can effectively do everything including big guys, while SS is more just "stay back here and watch for big ones"

Buff Sharp and nerf slinger a bit

>Feel like playing KF2 after a long ass time
>Every server with less than 100 ping is either password protected, empty or have difficulties/maps i don't like


Maybe some other day.

>>171699093
Damn. I'm probably just used to my toaster graphics but that does look rather pretty.

>>171699551
I don't know what's going on with the graphics on my machine but sometimes i notice they just change. One time i unistalled the game and installed it again and suddenly ultra looke 3 times better..

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>>171695219
>>171694026
But there's so much fun to be had. Taylor will bring you no harm

>>171699879
we have animes

>>171700018
will any be my gf (male)?

>>171700278
ask them on discord :^)

we're back!!!!

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fml these make my heart skip

Are there crosshair opt or mods where its just a dot or a little cross? Dont care if its not accurate

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>>171678380

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when were you when flare revolvers brought us the napalm nuke

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>>171678380

>>171701534
The Descent looks actually pretty good, could use a little more room though

>>171698913

I would in a Stalker's mouth.

>>171701751
some rooms are easy, some are a bit too hard with the amount and location of spawns; just depends on what order they're in i guess, if you're lucky you get the easier ones on late waves

>>171701751
I guess that's TWI's response to those who find HoE too easy.

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>>171701849
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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open 70.178.194.48:7777?password=rage
open 70.178.194.48:7777?password=rage
open 70.178.194.48:7777?password=rage
64-man HoE server is up rn you gits

>>171697838
>had better backup weapons to help clear trash and still take care of the larger zeds
[remained OP af]

>>171699093
>>171700772
>Ana
>No ReU

>>171705126
pretty much, not to mention that it got multiple weapon types while everyone else was set to one
I know early day support had the LAW, but hardly anyones complaining about demo nowadays

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>>171671026
>less damage than the ar-15
>huge round capacity

Did they just fucking make an smg with an lmg skin? I fucking knew there was no way it would be satisfying while being balanced.

The ONLY way I could see it being useful is similar damage to ar, halve the magazine size, and make zeds stumble with each bullet.

They're going full PAYDAY 2 with weapon balancing, just wait

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>Patrick starts winding up his minigun when you're not near any cover.

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>>171710020
>Patrick
If you hug his body while he's using the minigun, it can't touch you.

>collapsing on the trailer
Oh boy that got me hyped, redpill me on this update and if it's worth installing?

>>171710803
Sure if you like machine guns and flare revolvers

>>171710803
Maps are dank
Spit Fires are cool
Stoner feels amazing but has the impact of wet toilet paper

>>171710803
Flare Revolvers are fun
Stoner is underwhelming
The Descent is fun at first, then it gets repetitive really fast. It's also a clusterfuck so don't expect to do well with high-precision Perks

>>171710803
New guns wreck trash satisfyingly and are well balanced by not also wrecking big zeds much.
Nuked is the map we know and love still, Descent has some decent novelty to give it a try but it might be lame to replay much, dunno yet.

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>Buttery smooth 120 FPS
>Hold M1 with the Stoner
>FPS drop down to 30

>spitfires aren't gunslinger crossperk
>stoner isn't swat crossperk
A waste, neither would have been a balance problem.

>>171711430
>spitfires aren't gunslinger crossperk
Are you blind? Single spitfire is even crossperk with Sharpshooter

>>171711430
The only thing wrong is the SWAT part, slinger gets the flares bonus and even sharp can make use of them giving him a better fighting chance

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>>171678380

Are we still collapsing?

>>171679013
Yeah, this is why I don't like feminist males talking about female character design. It's just them virtue signaling for cookies whereas actual women want someone that looks good and kicks ass.

>>171697838
The worst part is that they could've easily made Horzine Technician a perk instead of Survivalist which got shitted on an updated later with crossperk weapons finally being enabled.

Hell, the fanmade survivalist perk being a hunter with traps for stunning and holding would've added a lot more variety to the game than yet another rooty tooty point and shooty perk.

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>>171694854
Zeds aren't chatty enough or don't sound coherent.

I have no idea what gibberish the FP is saying. Bloats only seem capable of saying "What's that smell?" most of the time. Stalkers sound like they're trying to speak snake to you. Etc.

where the fuck is the new game mode?

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>>171678380
>that eternal bliss seeing KF2 loading a 1 gig update
>play descent
>on wave 5/7 get the sudden realization there wont be another content patch of literally anything for the next 3-4 maybe 5 months
>free weekend

COLLAPSING

Barbecue tonight?

>>171716183
Just a survival map that's a bunch of tiny maps you switch between each wave.

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fuckin bloats

>>171717037
oh gosh :3

>>171708736
>similar damage to ar
25 is pretty similar to 30
same shots to kill most trash

What did I miss

>Single Spitfire
>Go to heal self
>Takes 10 seconds to holster the gun
>Ded
I don't understand

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>HoE wave 7
>medic decides to switch to commando without telling us

>>171717321
Yeah, but the fire rate makes it easy to waste half your ammo. I only use it on big guys.
Id rather use my scar for trash desu

>>171719313
I go the opposite.
SCAR has more dps, good for large zeds, stoner divvies damage among more bullets that each are still strong enough to decap trash.

>see kfg is alive again
>inspired to maybe finish my map that's been sitting undone for over a year
>realise kfg will be dead by the time I finish because lmaonocontenttotalkabout
why is TWI so shit?

>>171720860
There's files related to the Summer Sideshow hidden in the update, maybe if you can time releasing your cool map alongside the next update in four months

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>>171721358
That makes me wanna do one with a hotel resort and a beach or some shit. Since mine is a prison that was started before we had any indications of an official prison map (probably like two fucking years ago by this point), almost (like 90%) finished, scrapped because I didn't like the layout and thought it would play like shit, then started again and left to rot because I'm an easily disctracted lazy shit.

>>171721973
Haunted cliffside hotel?

>>171721973
You'd have loads of assets for that with zedlanding, I'm imagining something like KFOffices as a hotel half, but located on a beach.
>>171722742
Or like serena beach from super mario sunshine, sounds comfy

For the prison map, as long as theres some sort of basic loop for kiting, it's probably fun anyway. May as well finish it you lazy fuck

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>>171722742
Oh fuck man. I was focusing more on the "summer" part in my post but then I remembered that yeah, it's all dark and weird carnival shit with the summer sideshows. A formely popular big hotel that's built on a cliff with hazards in the form of drops where the building has started falling into the sea and shit sounds rad as fuck. That's given me something to think about.

>>171723164
It's not so much that I didn't/don't want to finish it and more that I get very easily distracted by picking up new games and just never went back to the most recent iteration.

>>171723239
If you want a REAL Summer map, make this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD_wZUQFXi0

>>171724138
thats completely fine, gotta enjoy your time off bruh

I fucking hate how small every room is in the new update, every game ends up in Zerkwalling or a wipe thanks to multiple FP/SC spawns.

>>171680516
That is one smug ass horse.

>>171721358
>Summer Sideshow hidden in the update
seems like a good opportunity to use the new gamemode, with every one of the mini maps being themed on a different carnival/freakshow attraction

>Get to final wave on Suicidal in Volter Manor as Commando
>Volter just straight up murders me with his melee bullshit
Volter is most likely worst designed boss for a game like this, Jesus Christ.

>>171725774
see, I would be excited if there weren't more zed spawn points then players in each section
its obvious they dont want players to camp with "lanes", but half the classes were designed with that in mind

>>171726118
>Play solo and get Patriarch.
>Effortlessly swat him down every time he comes at me, clean up the trash while waiting for him to come back.

>Play solo and get Hans.
>Initiates his running dash attack phase, never comes out of it until I'm dead.
Why.

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>>171678380
Shame this never got a drawfag to draw this

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>>171678380
F2P weekend plus SWAT release made the game unplayable

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>>171726349
I honestly can't remember a single point when Hans was considered balanced
im not expecting much at this point

>>171726310
Surely that's down to the design of the map sections themselves though? Something which could easily be solved by playtesting the map as it was developed. I'm really keen on this idea now. Might take a look too see how the holdout maps are constructed later.

>>171726981
Absolutely, its more of a TW Official Level Design thing, it's not inherent to the mode afaik

>New patch drops.
>Free weekend happens soon afterwards.

>>171727047
I always think it's weird how (current) TWI seem to always want to be the ones dictating maps should be played. KF (for me at least) has always had two ways to play a map: you either kite in a loop, or you hunker down with your backs to a wall, weld some doors and hope to god you're gud enough to not get fucked into the corner. TW seem like they don't want either, with the teleporting bullshit and at the same time making door welding pathetically weak.

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>>171727643
I noticed the same exact thing. Normally I would blame consoles and the ps4 release, but after a couple of years post launch in KF1, I noticed around moonbase that map layouts started becoming more simplistic, with more ways out of any given lane, seemingly discouraging camping.
Maybe it was a response against zerkwalling? idk
At this point im not sure how they WANT us to play, I'd check a livestream for an example, but I don't feel like watching firebugs wiping on Hard.

>>171678380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMAYOoi56IU

He was right.

>>171728140
I'm not even sure they themselves know how they want people to be playing. I agree with you on the escapes thing though, a lot of spaces in KF2 maps have many ways in and out. A lot of older maps had many spaces where there was only one, two or maybe three ways in, and those were also your way out. If you went into those spaces it was a commitment that you thought you could hold the space, because heaven help you if you get trapped, there's no way out.

>>171728842
It's true, the older designs PLUS slower movement speed PLUS strict class balancing meant you had to commit beforehand, you had little little room for error. I was playing the port of biohazard earlier, and I was amazed how easy it was to get cornered, in comparison to any KF2 map.

And to be fair to Tripwire whether or not they deserve it, most devs can't play their games at the highest levels that their fans can, and sort of have to use spreadsheet balancing and community feedback more than their own playtesting for higher difficulties.

Hence why we got a reskinned LMG and neutered flair revolvers.

>>171729414
*smg
I standby my opinion that besides handling, you play with it the same you would an smg.

>>171728508
Not really.
His only really solid complaint was the potential perk resets that were immediately confirmed to never happen and subsequently did never happen.
>is the gameplay itself good? it's good, it's good

>>171729414
How extensive can mods even be for KF2? I'm surprised no one (or a team) hasn't gone ahead and made a "classic" mod which tries to re-capture the feel of KF1 by such things as removing sprint (slowing Zeds to compensate, obviously) and rebalancing all the guns and perks. I'm not actually surprised. That'd be a pretty big undertaking in terms of constantly tweaking balance numbers, and the game is all but dead at this point. Sadly.

Thought there was gonna be more bosses and weapons added quicker.

It's a solid game and it works well, but it gets extremely old.

I'll revisit it a few years down the road when they've pumped out more content. Right now not worth playing

All they had to do was not fuck up.
>Take KF1.
>Update graphics.
>Re-release as KF2.
Literally all they had to do
And they fucked up.

>>171730550
holy shit, I was thinking the same thing
Recombine the appropriate classes, adjust player/zed speed, maybe even take some liberties with rebalancing 9mm pistol should NOT be doing under HALF the damage of a 1911 45acp, my inner /k/ is still furious with gunslinger in general, and adjust everyone to level 25. Bonus points for locking cosmetics to match old character portraits.

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>>171730627
>Thought there was gonna be more bosses and weapons added
yes
>quicker.
What gave you that idea? The precedent for content updates being slow as shit was set by mid 2015.

>Medic is pocketing the Berserker.
>Running off to the opposite end of the map with them.
>Refuses to heal anyone else unless you body block them in a corner.
Get a fucking room.

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>>171730882
>my inner /k/ is still furious
For there to be a pistols perk that isn't garbage in a game of AA12s and SCARHs, that unrealistic balance was basically necessary, because pistols realistically are compromised shit.
No excuse for the gaudy forth wall horror of the 1911's default skin, though.

>>171730550
Honestly I'd be happy with a rebalancing of several weapons in the base game.
>xbow stun is complete garbage
>m4 shotgun needs less weight and better accuracy
>the entire gunslinger class has weapon calibers from another planet
>various price adjustments

I'm sure there's more I can't recall atm, but simple balance tweaks that TW refuses to make would unironically get me playing way more.

Great, now I'm prowling the forums looking if weapon tweaks are possible without entirely replacing them.

>>171730793
but that's exactly what they did

nothing about the game's formula was changed

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>>171668114

MY BABY DON'T MESS AROUND BECAUSE

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>finish game
>get this in a drop

not bad

>>171731508
I remember when that came out.
This thread had it fixed within the hour.
Better times...

>>171731604
nah, sprinting players and running zeds changes the formula enough since classes had to rebalance around targets that are harder to hit. See the sharp's railgun having a lock on mode, most classes having some sort of stun grenade, different enemy debuff effects, etc
you cant argue if anythings changed
you CAN argue if its shit or not

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Did they fucking nerf move speed, or is it just me?

I was running around Nuked as a fast Berserker and I felt like I was "sprinting" at 2 miles an hour. It felt so shit but maybe it was just me?

>>171731747
It's weird, if I play everyday for two weeks, I get nothing but crates, headbands, and uncommon battle scarred skins.

If I leave for a month, I get TWO back to back Horzine Elite Scars, one bs Green, one Mint White.

I intentionally avoid playing more then a few days in a row now. GG Tripwire

>>171731871
Maybe you got used to having a pocket medic buffing your speed as zerk? Or you held a gun, while expecting zerk's melee-only movespeed buff?

>>171731969

Nah mang I was a 25 Zerk with the speed boost skill from Level 5 holding an Evis and a Katana.
I would sprint with them and think "Man FUCK was I always this slow?".

>>171731937

they've adjusted drop rate a few times
think currently you get a drop at the end of a game if you haven't gotten a drop in the last 24 hours

>>171731798
there's a difference between changed and improved

original formula is still 10 waves + boss, an improved economy system none of that 90% discount bullshit, the original perks + 3 more

also sprinting is an improvement over pulling out your knife because that totally makes you run faster and fundamentally the same since you can't fire while sprinting

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>>171680393

>>171732090
>fundamentally the same since you can't fire while sprinting
You can go back and forth instantly from sprint and fire, though, while you futzed with holsters for a bit to use the knife.

>>171732072
I know it used to be once a week, then once every 48 hours, then finally per 24. I meant the rarity/quality of the dropped item varying based on concurrent played days. As if they want players who already play daily to not get rare items and inflate the economy, but to encourage players who pop in infrequently to play more by dropping better stuff. Its just my theory, but ancedotes seem consistent

>>171732090
I liked the economy having pricing be based on weapon effectiveness and not the other way around, conforming prices and balancing to arbitrary tiers. Most weapon roles are fine, but some nerfs happen because "lol DB shot is too good for T2 650 dosh, slight nerf" instead of just pricing it slightly higher

oh hey /kfg/ is back

a place to hang out since the RE generals lasted about 4 days before fading away

>>171732470
They still balance weapons by adjusting the price sometimes, like with what they did to the M79.

But I was mainly pointing out the issue with discounts from the original KF. Not only did it make crossperking more difficult, it also punished lower level players.

>>171732470
>AA12 now $4000

>>171732767
What's RE?

>>171732798
resident evil

came and went within a week

what's a good build for mando with the LMG?

>>171730550
The guy who made the Alien mod for KF1 is supposedly working on a version for KF2. Haven't heard anything in the year since he said that though.

>>171733076
straightforward commando: stoner + scar
it ain't me, it ain't me: stoner + M16203
no medic: stoner + medpistol + ar15
muh update: stoner + medpistol + spitfires

>>171733479
I mean what's the best skills to use for it

>>171733479

>it ain't me, it ain't me: stoner + M16203

We can now roleplay as Animal Mother.

>>171731624
sluts

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>>171732798
>no cash penalty for firebugs running around with RPGs

>>171732779
I forgot about the M79, haven't played demo for awhile. Still, theres other changes I wish they would make, problems stemmed from tiers.
The discounts would have been good if they didn't change with leveling. Discouraging xperking is a good thing imo, save for stuff like the LAR or DB for early skrek kills , which in KF1 was cheap enough anyway. Even then, most classes can account for big guys with proper coordination.

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>>171678380

>>171733676
shut up white bitch

>>171733548
Tactical reload is the only one that I'd particularly highly recommend for the stoner.
People act like hollow point is super important, but when you consider that eat lead affects box and supplier ammo pickups, it can be a fine option too.

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>>171731747
I got this one for free battle scarred about ten or eleven months ago and recently got the mint version of the same skin in a drop about two months ago. I like it well enough.

>>171732891
I couldn't care less for Resident Evil 7 even though I consider myself a Resident Evil fan, but I'm sure your general will come back whenever that Chris Redfield dlc comes out even if it's only for a short time.

>>171733723
plenty of penalty when they kill themselves doing it

>>171733890
the thing I like about that skin is that the condition doesn't affect the neon lights

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brrrrrrrrt

>>171733867
I really hate how you're stuck with having to choose between faster reloads/more damage + less recoil and large magazines.

>>171734454
lmg is fun af

I don't know why people here dislike it

I am trash man 788 dead clots

>>171734806
You always have some people who want a drastic power creep.

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>>171734806
because we're dead inside and abhor fun

>LMG

what the fuck Tripwire

>>171735160
yeah I wanted a GPMG

>>171735160
>no deployable HMG

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i crave for this

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commando/berserker crossperk when?

>>171735058

I like power creep.

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>zerkers who don't use dreadnaught and berserker rage at level 25

When will TripWire add Barrett that can drop 6 man HoE scrake in 2-3 shots (With huge ammo cost) and the nolife neckbeards ree about it?

>links eject
>belt shortens
>three different reloads to accommodate keeping a tiny belt that doesn't connect to the box
neat, didn't think they'd bother to animate it right

>>171735939
railgun already can 1shot them

>they never did give the HX25 its 25mm grenades

>they'll never let me swap between OG-7V, PG-7VL and TBG-7V in the RPG

>>171735939

the railgun already does exactly that

>>171736441
>>171736359
Uh oh, we should go to Tripwire Forums and complain about this. Railgun can't exist in this state, it's obviously OP and makes the game less challenging.

>>171736475
>Too stupid to know about the railgun.
>Trying to talk shit about anyone else.

>>171736475
>it's obviously OP
It's shit at other things, is heavy, and you have to stay still and duck and aim. Well balanced.
A huge mg that wrecks big zeds wouldn't be, because it would wreck little zeds even more.

>>171736890
No, you don't get it, it actually deals damage instead of tickling enemies.

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>>171734454
I'll show you a real bullet hose
SWAT-release Vector, gone too soon.

>>171737985
that lead laser beam was crazy

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>>171738143
Salvaged some more recording from a long time ago of the webm I posted.
https://my.mixtape.moe/jonyct.webm

>>171738143

It's still pretty fun and gud tho, even after nerfs.

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>>171741054
For sure, still in my top three favorite skills.

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>>171741773

>Zed time with rapid fire kicks in
>Firing Stoner at full auto
>Seeing all those casings fly out everywhere all over the place
>Mouth literally hanging open in amazement

I dunno how TW fuck up the big things but then get irrelevant stuff like this so RIGHT.

not played since before gunslinger released. is support good yet?

>>171744146
Yup.

>>171736376
>PG-7VL and TBG-7V
swapping ammo to do better for either hitting sc/fp/boss or for blowing up crowds could be cool
>OG-7V
a third option that does neither especially well? sounds kinda lame

>>171743573
full pic

>>171743573
Good taste in aesthetics. If only they stuck around longer

>>171735939
>>171736475
That m99 shit was so fucking dumb. Then TW goes ahead and prices it out of the game instead of actually balancing it

Can someone please explain why the firebug is still awful?

>>171752947

it's not

How many different rooms are on decent? I think ive seen like 6 but ive been playing short mostly.

>>171753226
Last patch I remember hating the microwave gun can someone explain if its shit or I need to git gud with it.

>>171731508
Honestly I would have been okay if the pistols had a toned down damage except from the 1858's they really need saving but it still kept speed and efficiency, as it is its basically just a far superior sharpshooter that can take on big guys as well as escape situations with ease thanks to its many upsides.

>>171753590
1st wave room + 9 wave 2-10 rooms + boss room

>>171754018
It's best if you just treat it like a flamethrower that works slightly better against medium zeds. Still tapfire at feet, still let groundfire/afterburn do the heavy lifting, still don't engage big zeds (you CAN kill them, it just takes up ammo better spent killing several hundred trash instead of just one FP).

whats the veredict on the new """""game mode""""?

>>171756193
Easily one of Tripwire Interactives best features to be included within the game, I am excited to see what groundbreaking ideas they will come up with next.

Bump?

>>171762472
Pike off.

>>171756193
Map it comes with is fucking lame. Looks interesting for custom maps though, so that's caught my eye. Currently thinking about what I can make that'd be interesting with the holdout format.

>>171754018
>microwave gun
theres your problem
you kill EVERYTHING with just a regular flamethrower now

with all the nerfs microwave has gotten, it does less damage than the flamethrower ever will

>>171763517
>EVERYTHING
Neat, time to roast some scrakes and fleshpounds

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>>171766371
Do not

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>>171766519
Why am I not allowed to hab fun?

should I take extra reload speed, extra damage, or more magazine size for the LMG?

>>171770116
Damage and 50% mag size