Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

So was the change to 300+ mobs significant?

>>171658698
Who cares r8 content is a joke now anyway
People cried that is was too hard when it was released because you omg need a party for stuff, well congrats I guess, now everything does 1dmg.
Game is for babies and retards.

Ded game?

>>171658806
you don't get 1 dmg from everything without Nuales or practonium shields
Still compared on release ofc now rank 8 is easier overall

>>171658807
Yes! Deader than death.

>>171658806

Are you the sea monkey having an autistic fit on the forums about this right now?

>>171658806
>wah wah waaah me and muh fag clique had no issues and now me and muh fag clique is irrelevant wah wah waaah muh dead game muh hard game wah wah
>muh farm
>muh saalus
>muh grind
>waaah is now all so easy waaah
>2900 players waaah
>300+ MAPS SHOULD ONLY BE FOR ME AND MY STAGE 9 GEARED SOLMIKI FRIENDS AND 4 PRACT WEAPONS WAAAAAAAH SO UNFAIR WAAAH

Don't worry. Soon the game will be so hard you can't even login. Offline servers are the toughest to beat content in. You and your homo buddies will have a hard time killing even a popolion! That's fucking hard dude!

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For me to get back into this game I'd want class resets for like 5 characters but that apparently isn't possible. If it was I'd probably have to fork IMC 200 dollars to even do that.

Also the whole Saalus thing needs to go or make shards more manageable. I don't want to make a Dina Bee AFK bot just to be able to fund one characters attributes and rerunning 290 for silver every day from 1 pm to 11 pm. It's tiring and boring.

I understand the need for silver sinks and it's not too bad, but Saalus and transcending really fucked this game over hard.

It feels like they won't be adding any real content at all and expect Transcending + shit gear to carry the game forever.

Game was good before transcending. All they needed to add was a class reset with in game silver (because they have been class balancing and throwing shit in the fan since release that it's hard to ever have a decent build unless you go for the most meta shit ever) and rerolling albeit isn't hard, it's tiring and boring.

Boring is the key here. Couple that with shit performance, shit server side and buggy content and no content it's no wonder no one is coming back to this game anymore.

tl;dr - the game needed class reset because IMC is shit at balancing + transcending fucked up the game royally + drip feeding people 3 global dungeon runs was also a mistake

>>171659404
>Offline servers are the toughest to beat content in
Weird, SWG servers went down years ago and I can still play it :^)

If I launch the steam version from the directory, does it still need steam running to work? and will my friends see me playing.

Current group of friends are all overwatch babbies and i cant be fucked dealing with them if they see me playing.

>>171662190
It uses the Steam API to check your credentials and log in, so yes.

>>171662190
Just Friend List>open side menu next to your name>click on "Offline"

>>171662372
Damn, thanks for the response.

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>>171658698
those mobs used to have ~500k hp

>tfw you did all the r8 maps this weekend because you assumed IMC would take months to change the monster stats

Why did I suffer through 800 damage frost clouds.

>>171663128
mdef changes weren't that big, but combined with the hp changes yeah it's much easier now

Wonder how hard it is to do R8 maps as a fresh player now. Probably still impossible, which makes you shit eaters happy.

>>171663550

If they happen to know to use their abrasives for defensive gems and aren't a class that needs to break the mdef wall it probably isn't that hard anymore.

>>171663647
Mere health decrease of mobs doesn't mean much if they still 3 shot you from range with homing magic.

I'm talking fresh new player here. You don't make enough silver while leveling to buy the gear necessary to tackle that content.

Then again seeing fresh players ever even reach R8 content is a rare thing. Most quit at the level 90 to 120 mark.

>>171663880
I soloed in R8 maps with the PD2 cookie cutter build as a fresh player in 2 months after starting from 0

>>171658235
Pajoritas or Karacha?

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/Bullies/ when?

>>171665872

When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves, when your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then you will have /Bullies/, and not before.

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>>171665783
PAJORITAS OF COURSE CAN'T YOU READ NUMBERS

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>>171666672
wot numburs

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>>171666341
But that's never going to happen...

there's a JINCAN GU gem at the market for 300k. It's the wugushi' ultimate skill. After the changes, do you guys think that a +1 in this skills is relevant? I'm not a wugu but well, maybe in the future...

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>>171659404
Amazing how every game nowdays caters to the sort of people who actually believe this. Rank8 content was fine, online games should force people to work cooperatively to progress. Even if they wanted to nerf monsters, they did so by making everything in the game do 1 damage to people. IMC has made it abundantly clear that they don't play their own game.

It's time for you guys to let go of this garbage.

>>171667801
I don't disagree that they went way too far but getting nuked for 1/3 your hp per mob when you had best in slot gear for r7 was fucking lame too.

Previous patch Tehvrin was a good balance of difficulty imo, even with good gear you'd take damage but it was manageable.

>>171667801
R8 was fine, the massively steep cliff that leads into it is not.

>>171667132
Buy it and wait for the price to go up

Otherwise, 300k isn't too large of a gamble

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=888
I havent been here in weeks, did CnL rekt Crimson?

>>171668827
scores are fucked

>>171668918
did IMC not fix anything?

>>171668827

>10. Tornado (993pts) 0 Win 1 Lose (Orsha)

wat

>>171669106
as always, they fix some things, and introduce new bugs or make old bugs reappear again.

>>171668582
It wasn't worse than the jump after level 200.

>>171669507
That jump really only existed because we were all dumb and thought defense was a linear, useless stat for months and those ranks introduced homing attacks.

>>171667132
>300k
That's peanuts, I'd buy it in an instant.

>>171667132
I'm pretty sure the new skill is actually worse than the old version. The new verison is just weak exploding bugs, the old one made a wall of cockroaches that never died.

Also it scales terribly but 300k is what you make in a dungeon run so whatever

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Why did I think that would work

>>171668763
>>171669775
>>171670719

So.. wugu 3 is still shit? Wugu 2 was always good, 3 is just better uptime but we'll probably give up on something too good to achiev it...

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>>171665872
I hope never

>>171670927
You can actually buy unusable items if you know how to bypass the error popup.

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>>171671719
Is Maid Café the active /tosg/ Fedimian guild? Because i believe they are pretty /tosg/

>>171672639
yes

>>171672639
They are roughly as active as Coffee.

>>171673272
Why you don't merge with them if they have /tosg/ inside?

>mass heal has no overheat

why play priest ffs

>>171674485
For have a safety in case Meltis+Ausrine fail for any reason

>>171674569

yeah but that's priest 1 ;_;

>>171674719
Priest is for minigames.

>>171674719
Chap inquisitor has respectable damage but yeah Priest 3 is mostly pointless as long as Austine exists in its current state.

>>171672302
And how would I go about doing that?

Sissels or Phada for swordcucks?

>>171674934
>as Austine exists
It's the Aursine + Meltsis combo, Aursine alone is worse than a priest3.

>>171676046
Both, switch to phada if you have a chrono.

The first hunting ground is available at level 120 right? Would it be viable to grind there with a HL/Barb alt geared with a +10 Flamini and 3x 4* Yellow gems, current crit attack is about 2300 with headgear. Should be a piece of cake, or is questing still better?

>>171676049
I honestly think a single priest 3 could be able to be competitive if you brought extra damage but since melstis also extends moles and chapps it doesn't work.

>>171676178

That effect ever procs? I figured sissel was just for the crit rate

>>171676601
>I figured sissel was just for the crit rate
Indeed.

>>171676863

I'm not really seeing the relation to chronos then

>>171677073
Chrono gives you +25% crit rate when they cast quicken

Priests give you +30% dex when they cast monstrance

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>1. Café (1041pts) 7 Win 3 Lose (Orsha)
>2. CuteNotLewd (1035pts) 8 Win 6 Lose (Klaipeda)
>3. Impetus (1031pts) 9 Win 5 Lose (Klaipeda)
>4. Futureproof (1017pts) 2 Win 0 Lose (Klaipeda)
>5. Crimson (1016pts) 7 Win 7 Lose (Klaipeda)
>6. Forest (1010pts) 1 Win 0 Lose (Orsha)
>7. Twilight (1008pts) 1 Win 0 Lose (Klaipeda)
> Re:Kindle (1008pts) 1 Win 0 Lose (Klaipeda)
>9. Lotus (999pts) 9 Win 11 Lose (Klaipeda)
>10. Tornado (993pts) 0 Win 1 Lose (Orsha)

>FP, 2 games, 2 wins, 4th place
good game IMCtards

RIP Lotus, they tried hard
Crimson kek

>>171674934
they just need to rework stoneskin to actually give scaling def too or something. Pure block doesnt do crap anymore. But then again thats what Aspersion is for and then things just get redundant

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Mission accomplished: victory over Crimson, Lotus, and Alpha. Good game.

>>171676049

not really. people do 35f with ausrine pass alone, lol

>>171679065
>>171677915
The rankings are fake.

That said, Crimson already quit the game and Alpha either did too or just doesn't gvg anymore so only Lotus is feeling the rage.

>>171677915
>>171679065
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=889
Pretty much all the scores are wrong and rewards are going to be removed/moved soon

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>>171679065
>not even one week and Triela is already the best leader FP ever had

>>171679241
>>171679370
oh haha,
good game IMCtards

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we did it, /tosg/! now I only need to wait for those 2 practos

>>171669773
>we were all dumb and thought defense was a linear, useless stat for months
Wait, what? But isn't it?

>>171679802
I hope you'll choose a cute name.

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Noticed how moecucki jumped ship JUST before the gvg rewards?

>retard blows a dungeon clear voucher asap at the lv 50 dungeon
>game lags very hard, can't use my chests
>rewards delayed by almost 30 levels now

thanks

>>171679858
any suggestions?

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>>171676194
Bump!

>>171679805
No, mobs have hidden multipliers on their attack stat similar to the attributes that players have; defense applies before these multipliers, so defense becomes increasingly more important at higher levels. People used to think that "since I have thousands of hp and only a few hundred defense, taking a few hundred points extra damage per attack isn't that bad if I keep my cafrisun armor". So people would try to use Cafrisun in Nahash forest and get btfo by Spiral arrows.

>>171679241
>>171679370
That doesn't make it any less funny. Watching IMC top themselves every week with even more unbelievable bugs is one of the best parts of this game.

>>171679585
>Player who likes the game and happens to also enjoy PvP is better than retards that see the game as an annoyance getting in the way of their epeen minigame

You don't say.

Returning player thinking of going Cleric1>Priest3>Chaplain>Paladin2>Inquisitor for a kind of support/DPS/PvP build. Is it viable? I think the Paladin2 is crap but I don't know what to replace with.

>>171682452
Pally 2 is crap, go cleric 2 Miko for Frost Cloud, Cleric 2 Oracle for minigames, or you could do something weird like Druid 2 inq for monster shenanigans.

>>171682452
No it's fucking terrible.
You either go Paladin3 or Chaplain, the first ok the second terrible.
You always need Cleric2 in all your cleric builds.

Say I want to kill a boss as fast as possible but also have reincarnate, will Pyro2 linker or just straight up Pyro 3 do it faster at Rank 5?

>>171682452
All clerics must have cleric 2 or they will be useless be it pve or pvp.

Chaplain is a pretty bad class.

If you are set on a pvp build that includes priest 3, you could try cleric 2 priest 3 miko/oracle kabba inquisitor

>>171682973
Chaplain can get away with cleric 1, they aren't demanded in party play so it's not like it matters if they have cleric 2 and revive+mass heal+stone skin gives them enough durability for solo play.

>>171682452
I'd go with Cleric2 Oracle instead of Paladin2 because Paladin2 is bad. With Cleric2 Oracle you'll be safer when fighting in melee range (protection against magic damage and low level debuffs), also better heals and Divine Might.

This build is expensive as fuck tho (Inquisitor Burn attribute costs ~25m and double elemental hats will hurt in your wallet as well) and will probably fall into shit tier when R9 comes and IMC strikes you with another spike in monsters' stats.

Can I use Twist of Fate to basically oneshot any target with HP bellow 33%?

>>171683427
Yeah but it's finnicky against boss monsters, I think magic resistance is applied somehow.

>>171682973
>All clerics must have cleric 2 or they will be useless be it pve or pvp
lol no
You could literally rank reset into priest diev 3 and still be more useful than half the archers, wizards and swordsmen in the game as a perpetual rank 5.

>>171682887

I think the pyro 2 does a higher burst if you stacks 4 fireballs first then link + dagger the ball towards the boss, but lv 5 link breaks fast and fireball 10 is weaker than 15...

the burst and the overall farming is better, but in the lon run if the fight lasts... I don't know, linker is retarded

Is the raise gem desirable at all? I got one in the HG and I'm about to just stuff it into something

>>171683608
I'm just making a char to test that reincarnate=quest boss cards somebody was suggesting and need something that will burst the boss in that very short time before it despawns due to quest completion, so I guess linker would be better?

>>171683757

sure, specially on low lv bosses

>>171683716

It is, but is also a very abundant gem (demon prison). worth it's 300~500k

>>171683492

Wow, it works on bosses? SPR resist works?

>>171684053
It works on everything except for field bosses and has a damage cap of 2 million, it's considered a level 999 debuff I don't think Spr can block it.

>>171679995
Is that a Sorc 1 Alch 3?

>>171682742
>>171682794
>>171682973
>>171683394
Ok thanks for the advice! If I went pally3>miko>inquisitor, what should I get for the first 3 ranks? Cleric3?

>>171684257

Also, how link interacts with it? It's a safe 40% -> kill on anything with DM and some matk to compensate their mdef. IF link works, it basically kills any pack of 3 or more linked mobs

>>171684523
I'm not sure sorry, it used to work where it hit in a small AoE and with links would kill packs but it's not supposed to do that and I reset out of Oracle 3.

>>171685118

>Reset out oracle 3

shame!

Did you tested ToF + Hexing? Twist removes a large chunk of hp, right, but it also gives it double of the removed back as a hp regen (over time). Hexing disables natural regen

>>171684446
This is the build I was going to try before giving up on making another cleric:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112bbbag.1a2a31435561.14213545.1f233a45526575.153585.45657481

I don't remember if this is the skill points distribution I was going for for Paladin.

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>getting a potentia to +15 and reskinning it to look like a Crystaras

Fucking show off

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>>171686080

>told him +20 would glow red instead
>he actually does it

I'm impressed by your dedication to shitposting

>>171684446
If you take Cleric3 and decide to get Miko instead of Priest1 for r7, you will probably want to make a Priest+Pardoner alt and craft monstrance scrolls, gotta crit those smashes.

>>171686741

post a SS of the sword on his character glowing

>>171686080
>>171686741
Heh, nice.

>>171685294
I know that doesn't work, it's not natural recovery it's tied to a beneficial debuff that works kinda like healing factor.

If you've ever played Dota 2 it works almost exactly like Oracles' purifying flames ability.

>>171688527

Yes I'm familiar with purifying flames from d2's Oracle, but I wasn't sure how that regen worked, tos mechanics are weird sometimes. Thanks for the info.

Fire wall is better for quick burst than flame ground, right?

>tfw your guild is dead cause people just quit the game

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>>171687817

>>171690414
>burst
yes

Is appraiser out yet?

>>171691882
NPC, yes
ass, nope

Should I invest on a Viper or on xbox+dagger on a Wugushi?

anyone have experience with psychokino's lv 15 teleport?

>verify game files to fix collections
>now have loading screens from 6 months ago

KIM

Can someone post the agny multipliers again?

Does doing the 110 dung with vouchers+cookies slingshot you to rank 5 or is that not worth it?

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>>171690563
>>171687817

Now, everybody will do this shit huehue

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>>171694498
>>171690563
>>171686080
>reskinning

>many people do it
>IMC notices that reskin-star bug
>bans dozens of people
>salt everywhere
>"I didnt ask for this"
>"is not bug"

>a1, qs 3, wugu 3

everything that is wrong in the game

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>>171694829
It's not a bug. It's more like an accident.

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>>171695030
sure thing L****o K*******g
see you in 30 days

>>171695030
you're an accident

>>171694498


this is fucking amazing

>>171679065

lotus are mainly a necro afk guild
crimson quit a long time ago
alpha ??????????????????????
Re:Kindle are the best guild on that list

Capyba, check your PMs please.

>>171695506
The overized hamster is sleeping.

>>171695806
Aw shit, are you a member of the guild?

>>171696108
Yes.

>>171696274
When is sleeping beauty usually awake? I want to join.

>>171683427
It was nerfed so max damage is 999,999. The skill is just a boon, it's not worth taking Oracle 3 just for that.

>>171696380
Usually from reset time on with various break around, especially food.

How do the 8x and 4x tomes work exactly? Will they boost existing exp bonuses?

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>Honeybongo will never return

>>171697563
who?

>>171694829
not a bug, I tried to sacrifice lower item
it says "must have equal or bigger star"

>>171697670
my gf

>>171697191
>reset time

When is it in GMT? The in-game clock doesn't even seem to be synched with any european country's timezone.

>>171697804
sometimes you gotta put the cart before the horse, dude.

>>171698638
You mean literally?

how's the game after the mobs nerf? can elememe do 500k aoe damage with five hammer now?

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I don't remember this quest

>>171698869
Yes, its a new minigame in TOS.

>>171697804
>or bigger star"
That is not what IMC (fucking lying bastards) wrote in the alcheC3 preview. I'd like to see prove of that.

>Don't have two pract yet
>Just passing around the same weapon between all my characters regardless of how low level they are

Five hammer is so stupid.

>>171699423
Prease understand.

>>171699519

I dunno, I think an rng meme box for pract is more stupid

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>>171698927
Its good.

Yes ofc and could before too!

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>>171699519
>>171699851

2nd practo box being locked behind level 16 guild event is stupidester

>>171700215
Confirmed

>>171700215
Time to change guilds.

>>171700215
Level 16 is insane though. It's literally billions worth of talt.

>>171700959
I like the idea that only these longstanding guilds with years of resources poured into them have access to unique resources but the system just isn't realistic with the average lifespan of modern MMOs.

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daily reminder

>>171700959
>>171701305
You could just buy multiple pract at 30-40mil for your entire guild instead.

>>171701383
Lunar is an SR so I think desynching is pretty unavoidable, I've seen lots of Psychos that like to intentionally desynch by using teleport near walls so that wouldn't surprise me though.

>>171701383
Karga and lunar can force desync on themselves, but Ilak is a PD and PDs can only be desync'd by others and it's actually a bad thing for them because they can't land incinerate properly

>>171700959
>>171701305
only 500 mil

>>171701383
>dogpooh
kek

>>171701687
SR only desync when they use limacon, which is not a skill that's worth using in pvp unless you are trying to take advantage of desync

Postem bonitinhas.

>>171701908

retreat shot does that too

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>>171703123

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>>171703589

delet

How do you get the Swaaz build?

>>171705408
having brain damage

>>171705525
He doesn't have brain damage tho

>>171705408
You make a peltasta, get shield lob and go full con.

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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?

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>>171665872

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>>171706779
Noscope Wugushi!

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>>171707417

>>171667801
found the faggot

>>171707417
Oh fuck. Is it really happening?

>they finally made bullies
YES IT'S TIME TO JOIN THE BEST GU-
>3j is in it
oh...

>>171707417
>3j

in to the trash it goes

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>>171708003
you just got.......bullied

>>171708113
>>171708003
this is perfect

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Bullies 2 when?

>>171708672
2cute2bully when

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/Ohayou/ and /Bullies/
What am I supposed to post now?

>>171708865
/Panties/

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>>171708865
/uoyahO/ when

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>>171708865
/Database/ when!

>>171708865
now pray for uoyahO

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>"When they grant you significant bonuses in stats"
>"I make an exception to token because it's the RMT item"
That blind optimism is so sad to watch now....

This is a video from 1 year ago at this time.
https://youtu.be/_Fg3lBztTZE?t=432

Don't forget /tosg/.

Remember why people left this game.

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>>171709098
>>171709468
Does uoyaho poster even play anymore? I haven't seen any posts of theirs I could recognize

>>171709574
ToS wasn't really p2w until they massively buffed the hat stats and even then it's so cheap it doesn't really matter much honestly.

trascend feature killed tos

>>171710238
told ya

>>171710238
Early access actually killed ToS. No update since then can compare.

>tokens will cost 6 million soon

>>171710868
>support imc guys xd

>>171711567
I'll support them by uninstalling and helping the player count drop enough for them to realize the western servers are not worth it and shut down the service here, thus saving money and helping the company.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vy8Rt_hbJY

>>171712330
Something something it's fair and balanced dps wiz would be useless if they didn't do 5x the damage of other classes.

>>171712176
Western servers are keeping KToS alive and they will all migrate here when it shuts down.

>>171714161
>she isn't part of the inner ERP train

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>>171714161
>box train riding deep into that enchanter sluts ass

>>171710868
>tfw casual player and will never be able to afford token
I guess I could play another game

>>171714367
You are supposed to buy the first token with real money dumb gaijin.

>>171701305
"Average lifespan of modern MMOs" is nonsense. Long running ones still exist. The problem with it is you need an obscene amount of effort poured into a property whose main function is to be a social group. That creates a conflict between playing with your friends and getting rewards. Contrast that with orange weapons, which take a ton of effort but you don't have to join a top guild to progress and you're not punished for starting your own guild.

Practonium is an especially bad choice since it's needed badly by newer or less organized players, but top guilds can pump it out with alts.

>>171714609
better to play better games

>>171714367
You can still have fun without a token!

https://youtu.be/oCCo6bVAHQU?t=81

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>>171706779

What is the reincarnate success rate for bosses? Around 5% or so?

>>171714367
If a casual can't do dailies, it was already too late for him.

>>171714367
quit and play better games
people who are ahead will only stay ahead and you can't catch up

see >>171716005

>>171716107
>Falling behind

Yeah this game is super competitive, literally unplayable trash if you aren't da very best like no one ever was.

>>171716307
it's also a shit game

you can't play with other players because you are behind and can't catch up

there's no reason to stay

Which class doesn't need practonium?

>>171716463
Retard nobody even hardly "plays" most people are town shitters that do dailies and ERP.

>>171716463
>it's also a shit game
no news grandpa

>you can't play with other players because you are behind and can't catch up
bullshit

>>171716517
alchemist, squire, enchanter

>>171716610
But they're all shit!

>>171716517
Fencer3!

Doesn't need transcendence either really. For now at least, but we'd need another +2 skill rapier to overcome that.

prakeh gloves = vikaras?

>>171716606
you can't play with people who solo all content due to being so ahead

no one wants a shitter in ET
no one wants a shitter in TBL or GvG
no one wants a shitter in MvP

asking to leech isn't playing with others

dead game and no way to catch up to veterans

>bullshit
eat shit

>>171716782
There are classes in the game that don't even require heavy investment and the new changes to drop system make it piss easy to make money by selling drops to people that don't farm, "can't catch up" is just casuals that only do dailies getting pissy because they can't catch up to other casuals that only do dailies but for a longer time.

>>171716782
make friends, retard.

>>171716782
because everyone wants to do ET, WBs and PvP

and
>>171717184

>>171717326
no one want to do that boring shit

>>171716718
Lolopanther

>>171717405
>im everyone

retard

>>171717184
>>171717206
>>171717326
>40 posters at prime hour in general

your game is dead
your general is dead
your arguments are retarded

just let it die already

>>171717640
don't tell me what to do, retard.

>>171717640
>only tosg plays
retard

and we got a lot more tosg's

>dad gam meme
ok, why you even here

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>>171717640
>I need other peoples' approval to play a game
>I hang around generals complaining about games I don't like

fucking swaaz. stop intentional-retarded-posting and go back to work.

>>171716782
>MvP
Wrong thread, no wonder you're so confused.

Nobody cares about ET, and TBL only uses random queuing so it doesn't matter what you have.

Anyone even plays on Varena here?

>>171718553
>Varena

Come over to Telsiai, nigga.

ded

>>171718624
I don't want to start over.

How would I go about allocating points for a fencer? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111138eee.354585.152535.1121314175.a5

I'm bad and never play sworides, but I want that qt F fencer costume

>>171708335
rude!

>>171719210
Just follow the dreamsky guide like every other fencer in the game.

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really makes you think

>>171709616
3j was the uoyaho poster. You know not what evil you seek.

>>171719862
Sounds good to me.

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>>171716107
>>171716307
>>171716463
Guys stop focusing on being "top dog" in terms of gear.
Make friends with like minded people with similar strength levels and improve and play da game at your own pace!

It's really fun when you stop thinking about "catching up" and just play for fun and small goals with your friendlies.

New here. Just started playing today. How come the game runs like shit in the town area or if there's even a few people around me? Is there any way to make the game run smoother? I have a pretty beefy CPU and GPU but this game looks like 2D sprites and runs like shit no matter what I do.

>>171720517
Download add-on manager and install the fpssavior inside it.

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>>171720517
>How come the game runs like shit in the town area or if there's even a few people around me?
>Is there any way to make the game run smoother?

Welcome to Tree of Savior, enjoy your stay.

If only you knew how bad things truly are....

>>171720517
all except faces is in 3D

engine is old and total shit. not a lot we can do.

>>171719210
3 in Attaque Coquille for 100% uptime with Venier.
1 in Preparation because you only need its buff.
Max Balestra Fente and Flash because their base damage is just too high to ignore. Attaque au Fer is worth at least 1 point for the same reason, but its cooldown is too high to be practical.
Preparation into Sept Etoiles is major damage until R8, and very quick and useful burst, with Lunge still being good damage and its evasion boost scales with level.
Esquive Toucher is underwhelming compared to Lunge and Sept, so it's not really worth it. Its animation has delayed hit confirmation too, which can be problematic sometimes. Fun to use at least.
Flanconnade can be useful until R8 for a no-cooldown slash move, but you shouldn't put more than 1 point if you decide to go for it. Its block is great but highly unreliable due to ping, and keeps you in place for a while.
Attaque Composee is fantastic sustained damage when spammed and always useful, but if you want to be a bit more lenient on SP potions then put some more points into Sept and Lunge. Great range, hits twice, and has a short animation too.

I'm purposefully a bit vague on points because some people allocate differently, I personally think it's worth putting a point into some skills and trying them out to decide for yourself where to go from there.

Whoops typed too much, but explanations of skills is always good.

>>171720517
Don't give up!

>>171720517
give up now

>>171720517
Mess around with the graphics options, but it's still good to avoid Ch1 of the main towns. Optimization's always been kinda bad but they work on it every now and then.

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>>171720517
>new here
>is there a way to fix this?

How much con do I need for pyrolink?

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>>171720517

>mfw just waiting for MHXX / GGen to come out
Game is looking rad as fug. :D

>>171721331
None if you have decent gears with yellow gems and didel shield.

Otherwise go 50/100.

If I'm going to make level 5 gems to sell which one is the most in-demand?

>>171721331
you can do 0 con
but if you are new or/and got no nice gear.. maybe get some

>>171721331
0 con
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#211122277.13233f43516a7585.1f2f32415a6171.113a4a55

>>171721331
The build works with no con (just like most pve builds), but this is only if you are a sort of experienced player who knows what equipment to wear and has the funds to get it. Newbies might find no con frustrating and full of death.

>>171720517
Put the settings on "low mode" and not "disable". After the patch a while back, everything except main towns, GvG, and world boss fights should be OK.

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>Golden enemy didn't freeze my game for 10 seconds
That's the true reward.

Too bad it wasn't an enemy with actual useful drops.

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>tfw your tbl rival mdef is 2x your matk now

>>171723396
Add Karga to friends so you know when not to queue

>>171723671

Not Karga but another dead server.

Anyway, I"m not sure if going +1 stage on my weapon will work or if I'll need to dodge him everytime to have fun

Seriously, 4k+ mdef shouldn't be allowed. Maybe a ignition could work, he has infinite mdef but low hp...

Is c2diev3mikopd2 any good at all in minigame? I've never done minigame before and I was thinking of restatting my ded pd2 to full con for it

>>171724976
Are you using chapparition? It's the only real way to hurt mdef nerds

>>171725248
if you want minigames go diev kabba inqui miko full con cancer

>>171725248
It's okay, but needs infinitely more investment than the Inquisitor variant.

Dievmikopd is best for gvg and pretty decent for 5v5. It becomes a lot weaker in 2v2 however, you'd have to be really whaled up to do well there with PD.

>>171725509

well I'd only do it with an existing character and my other characters are total dogshit pvp builds

>>171725260

Five.

>>171725509

desu cleric 2 diev 3 oracle kabbainq is much better imo

miko get cucked very often to kinos.

>>171725775
Get 3 more then. It'll be better than an extra stage, and if that's not enough you can get the stage later.

So now that the dust has settled...
Is the golden age of ToS over?
Is it ever going to return?
Please be honest.

>>171725248
It's better for GBL and pve than it is for TBL.
Even if there are better builds at TBL you're still in a fair place and you won't become a cancerous faggot that everyone will hate.

Full con and some transcend might be needed.

Killing someone 1v1 or 2v1 is very challenging for PD which is why they struggle at 2v2, although I've seen one do pretty well there but she has stage 6 transcend and like 70k HP

How pd usually wins:

>somehow you don't die (70k hp, healing factor to tank even raise combos)
>laima slow
>spam poison gas, even if ticks two times you're already dealing damage
>eventually someone will step on that laima slow and get a incineration into the face (they fixed the bug were you can remove incineration by right click, but even this takes 1 seconds and agny HURTS)

I lost the count of how many 1x1 battles with cancer diev 3 pds at 2x2 TBL I had when my only kill condition was a chain combo + timeout. I usually won since when that shit happens is that PD + Swaaz tier vs me and other at least useful guy so even after all this stall I usually manage to land a combo on his useless partner and we 2x1 the statues.

If you like stall and mind games, is the perfect class but you can be outplayed A LOT

>>171726623
What dust?
What golden age?

There's always been problems but people had fun regardless, as those who still play do now. People who leave or have left because they no longer had fun won't return short of some drastic new gameplay that changes the core of things. That's just how games go in general.

Is it for all quests that monsters stop dropping things after you do it for the first time or only certain special ones like the fisherman one?

>>171727393
How anyone usually wins against pd:

>have 6k+ mdef

>>171726623
Golden age ended the day Neutrality got patched in. Even if you didn't care, watching all those guilds simply quit altogether was the first sign something was about to go seriously amiss in this game.

>>171728393
That's not enough
Someone with 3200 matk and chapparition already cut most of your mdef. Add the high skill base damage of PD and elemental damage and you could be killed.

Granted, you need like stage 6 or 7 for that much matk with full con, but a full intycan do it with as low as stage 4 or less

>>171720039
I refuse to believe this.

What should I do with my old Archer 2 Sapper 3?

>inb4 delete

>>171735348
Falconer 3
Scout cannon 2

>>171735348
Falcon3, it's quite good too actually but just a little shadowed by Diev3Miko+ChronoLinker+Meltis mega cheesing set up

>>171735420
>>171735439
Do pets still take up a character slot?

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>>171735606
OFC

>>171727423
The dust that people kicked up leaving the game en masse.

Are there armor sets/weapons I should get at specific levels? I stopped doing quests as soon as I could so I'm still using a fucking tenet mace on my Diev.

>>171737709
5 hammer

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.23344355.11233b435a617a8195.114195b5.1f315f91

Am I doing this right? Not sure about Dopp3 skills but I kinda lean towards putting the rest of the points into Punish because it looks cool.

>>171738374
You need to get the lvl 6 attribute for zornhau, redel, and zucken then reset out of it and put 1 point in each. Punish is a 1 point wonder with the earthquake attribute, Sword2 Barb3 would be a better build but hl is still ok.

>sweet boy buff doesn't stack

why would my sweet boy do this to me?

>>171738374
Make an High3Doppel, not a Barb doppel

>>171714263
of course not, healmage is a pure and good girl!

>>171738791
>reset out of it

That'd need some planning with the 14days expire date. I'm not liking Barbarian at all so I'll stick to Highlander3.

Thanks.

>>171738960
you just want barbarian to extend your debuffs and give you more attack. You sound like a new player but doppel is shit unless you can spend like half a billion silver on it.

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>>171658235
JOIN FUTUREPROOF TODAY FOR MAXIMUM FUN!
PM Triela for guild invites

Uhmmm, Mr. Swaaz, when are we getting a new video?

Jesus people still play this? Is the game at least even close to being balanced now or is it still a pile of rubbish?

>>171720790
>tfw Fencer2
>maxed Composee +2 from Venier already lowers my SP at a rate not even Lv 15 SP potions can sustain
Fuck, how do you deal with that?

>>171725248
It's pretty bad.
You'll have a really hard time landing anything but Black Death Stream, which gets just cured by an antidote.

>>171739875
The latter, tons of classes and still only a select meme classes and builds are viable.
Joke classes like Sadhu, Bokor and Monk are still joke classes, one year later.

>>171741205

>he doesn't know about the cleric3 sadhu3 build

>>171739985
By using a skill reset, good thing there's one from event. Maxed composee is only sustainable with melstis plus keista pots. For general use, lv4~5 +2 is the most you can sustain with just lv15 pots on good ping.

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>>171739875
Yes, there are still people plaing this but population is going for 2k by May at this speed.

>>171735348

do falcon1 cannon2

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>tp for practo

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>>171710730

>>171741938
>like a half year old news
ok

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>>171741938
xd

>>171744069
I think I found this artist once, but I don't remember now. Which is a shame because their artstyle is great, don't think they drew much else ToS iirc.

>>171744303
You know you can find them again if you just use image search.

>>171744473
None of the sites were bringing up anything for me this time.

Dead.

For how long we will be able to keep /tosg/ running?

>>171720790
>Flash

What? You mean fleche?

>>171748431
Itos decided to translate it to Flash despite every other Fencer skill still being in French. Yes it's dumb.

ded

What are some budget options for movespeed on a wizard? Don't care about any other stat but movement speed

>>171749590
Wind Runner :^)

>>171748734
>Flash Strike
>Still not sure if Dark Theurge or Dark Surge

>>171749590
There's a +1 boots in the hunting grounds, circle of alch to make movespeed potions, 2 circles of chrono for run speed, a circle of PK for teleporting. Mountable TP pet?

>>171749590
Chronomancer.

ded geam

>See someone slowly move into my screen
>It's a little rank 2 Pyromancer
>She's jumping up and down as she walks
>Overburdened
>Trying her hardest to make it to the Vakarine statue

Newbies in this game are so cute.

>>171749978
My little guild master can't be such a fanatic!

Is there even a point to planning necromancer builds? Isn't it best to just go pyro-linker-necro?

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Which event has the skill reset potion? Is it a timed item?

>>171751816

the level up chests
and yes, 14 days

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>>171739239
Whisper ApplyAFineHorse3. Send a friend request if I'm not on.

In other news, IMC answered the ticket about the hamster tower: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/guild-event-mage-tower-f4-hamsterquest/351613/7

When will they add in some non violent pvp like Kupole racing or something?

>>171752819
When IMC fires all the staff and replace all of them with a more competent bunch.

>>171752950
Why would you fire Letitia?

>>171753829
Does she have nice tits?

>>171753882
She has nice cubes.

Tell me the secret of the briquetting skin change
got a pajeet dagger but I want the blue dagger skin for it

>>171757329
DON'T HELP HIM