/rpgmg/ - RPG Maker General #198

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>>171650709
Part 2 of OP Image

>boss uses ZaRock and Fury of the Earth in 1 turn
>Party dead except for Orihs who failed to use the reviver in time.
This has happened twice now, this boss is getting kind of irritating.

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You can do it Anon!

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>>171651554
But I'm lazy

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I'm stealing resources from Rune Pharmacy.

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>>171651890
Just think about how much joy your game could bring to other people Anon.

OP didn't update the collab game.

Chapter 2 in progress | BSTAnon
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7ljbsji7tqgdxa/CollabProj.zip?dl=0

Previous thread >>171434990

MV got an update

>>171654856
>Linux export option, and Linux editor (for Desktop mode)
>There's a tutorial feature added to the "Help" menu. It is still experimental, but it should help you to walk you through basic game making.
>Added New RPG Maker MV Tools to the Tools menu.
>Minor update to rpg_objects.js

Are scripts for VX Ace dying out? I'm scrolling through the master script list and I'm finding that a lot of these are broken links or just removed by the author.

I mean, I'd work on MV if it wasn't for the weird lag I get while playtesting that some others say aren't an issue for them.

>>171655906
I think most scripters have moved one by now.

>>171657340
Eh, that's a little disappointing, but I guess it can't really be helped. I'm terrible at locating scripts or plugins, so I don't exactly know what I'm supposed to be looking for to minimize the lag made by the game, or even what exactly the issue is when trying to figure out how to work around it.

So the best way to create a game is by creating the whole world first before adding story element?

>>171650709
Don't die on me again edition.

>>171652124
I have an entire project called stolen assets and even the story is a copy of something else.
>>171658854
Same! On any map larger than the screen resolution it lags for me.

>>171659169
I'd say it'd be to write it all out and have a plan to implement certain parts.

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How do I into music?

Quasi ABS is discontinued or something?

>>171667224
If you think positively, everyone are busy making game.
Yeah right. As if that really happen.

>Want to upload a pic of my map
>Computer still updating
Hello from the other side..

>>171651539
Considering it's my turn to work on the game, I will probably nerf that boss a little. Not hugely, because I still beat it first try, but just a little.

Does anyone have any other things like bugs or stuff to note for the collab that I should be fixing?

>>171651539
fury of the earth is only scripted, really bad rng on that shit. have you tried spamming dark block with orhis? it is stackable.

>>171670928
I'd be against nerfing it considering another anon thought it was the perfect difficulty.


did you get the newer version I released the day after or are you still using the original?

>>171671202
I got the new version, don't worry.

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Been messing with GBC Aesthetic

>>171665430
Yes, but Quasi(now known as Quxios) is rebuilding it from scratch for some reason, like all his other old plugins.

>>171672315
this looks really good

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Another GBC aesthetic.

Been trying to find a legit fix to make the text box and text actually look like GBC/NES era boxes.

I can't code for shit. So any transparency fixes have been difficult. With any fonts having fucked resolutions.

>>171672506
Was just going to say that everything looks amazing except for your text boxes and selection cursor. Those two things stick out like a sore tumb. Make your window skin pixel count bigger and chose a different font.

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Tell me about your game.

>>171670928

Instead of nerfing something maybe make the player stronger

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>>171672415
Thank you, but these are all ripped graphics. I've been just trying to rip and mess with graphical look and feel. Things run too smoothly or too fast so I've had to manually put in timers for each n' every dialogue.

It's more of a passion project based on my inability to actually finish a project.

>>171672643
Oh I can fix the pixel count? I didn't think about that. Thanks man, I'll attempt to fuck with the font file in RGSS.

>>171672696
You're part of a resistance movement fighting against an occupying force.

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>>171672696
You're a templar for The Order of Bohmer Temple.
Germanic themes and the approach of justifying a holocaust.
That is, to murder thousands of a gypsy like race for the word of god is Schwertvon Unserem Herm Gebuoen. Soon you grow to learn the instabilities of the ideals and what the opposition believes in and what you believe in.

With a major point of the game to not make a "good" or "evil". With each cause is justified in some sense. But with a middle route being to save the world of sorts.

It might be overturned for a simpler plot. But I do like the ideas present.

>>171672696
You're a guy that gathers a party through a journey to save the kingdom from someone that wants to summon a demon. If you don't fuck up you're good and you either save that someone or defeat him for the good of the kingdom. If you fuck up you get another journey in another world and then you either go back to your own or slaughter your party and die.

Also what do you think is better for a game: generic "describing" enemy names(flame elemental wolf called "Crimson Wolf") or made up names that leave the player guessing from the looks or moves(called Wurfe)

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>>171674236
how about big beenus' big adventure: trouble in big boy town

>>171672696
You're raising a young girl to be a super heroine or villainess.

I'm bored.

>>171679104
Work on your game

>>171674236
A little bit of both, just like real life.

>>171679104
DashBored

Today's Song of the Day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jM2u-I6I2k

RMMV is 60% off on Steam btw.
I've had it pirated for a long time but I'm getting close to release so figured I should buy it.

>>171684413
Speaking of which, I was just about to ask; how does MV compare to VXA? Is it simpler, better, etc? Should I just stick with VXA?

I'm bored.

>>171684413
Just asking, how often do MV sales come up?

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Here's the intro I have in the works, really excited to finally get progress on it!

https://aww.moe/a3b73v.mp4

>>171687837
Last one was in December I think, so probably about 3 times a year.

I'd far rather have the standalone installer which doesn't go on sale, but all I really need is the license on the chance I'm asked, and I'll just continue pirating the standalone to avoid steam cloud save bullshit

>>171689142
>https://aww.moe/a3b73v.mp4

I'm not really sure what the framing device is, but it seems to be an old guy going straight from talking about the weather to immediately telling a folk tale that has nothing to do with the weather.

Rather than creepy or mysterious, it just feels really inorganic to switch topic like that with nothing linking them.

As an aside, aren't you also working on that sexy robots vidya? Is this a downtime project?

>>171689142
I can't judge the voice quality because I'm not a native english speaker but that's a nice progress, anon.

>>171689968
More like a side project, I work on one when I don't feel like working on the other, alternating between them.

>>171689968
>>171690096

Also, feel like it'd be better to cut off the first part where she talks about the weather?

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>>171672823
Woah, looks good. I've been trying to do the exact same thing as you except with NES graphics and in VX Ace.

Right now mine's a mishmash of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest graphics but I'll make my own once I've got all the elements looking right. Font gets really finnicky in some places at low resolutions which is super annoying.

>>171686363
>>171682134

>>171684470
pls respond

I'm trying my best to make my game have very little dialogue/cutscenes, but the plot is kind of complex and not really possible to explain through gameplay alone.
So I'm wondering if I should go the lazy route and leave books/notes around explaining what's going on. Does anyone even read those?
My past projects were all really exposition heavy and I'm trying to avoid that.

>>171684470
MV has some good plugins, but VXA is better for smaller sprites, less lag, and it's recent enough to still have working scripts.

>>171697979
Nothing wrong with me

>>171698741
2

I'm curious, how many people bought DashBored by now?

>>171698828
Nothing wrong with me

>>171689142
I'm really enjoying your new window skin.

>>171692323
You need to give the players enough story to get them invested so they are motivated.
Exposition dumps via notes/books are pretty boring if you ask me, I rarely read those.
A note here and there giving a little more insight about a character is okay, though.

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Do you feel like a wizard yet? I know I do!

Don't worry, I'm going to smooth the animation so it's not so jerky on linear paths and so that it goes straight to the person instead of sorta-towards-it.

That is a projectile, btw, and not just an event running at a person. Which reminds me, I'm still wondering if fireball should even lock onto a target or if it should shoot straight. It's the same work either way, I suppose.

>>171689142
Woah, voice acting in an RPG Maker game? That's more dedication to detail than 99.99% of other RPG Maker games right there.

>>171700438
Neat.
Does it also work when the person moves?

>>171700438
Make the projectile about 400% faster, looks good thou!

I haven't been on in a while, did the Lessons of Passion guy ever post any more? I only have up to lesson five of his tutorials.

Also shame, that should really be in the OP.

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>>171700813
>Does it also work when the person moves?
Right now, yes. It's heat-seeking or CURVED FIREBALLS, which looks just as wonky right now since I haven't smoothed its trajectory.

>>171701000
I'm planning on it. Right now projectiles move at a rate of 120 pixels per second in the X direction and the same in the Y direction (hence why it tends to align before hitting), but I'm planning on them moving at a fixed time, either something zippy like it always hits at 0.5 seconds after casting, or at a fixed speed that'll hit roughly 0.5s after casting from 5 tiles away.

>>171689968
Nice voice changer.

Also, I'm not a big fan of scrolling walls of text on a plain black background.

maybe I should try making a game

although I have zero experience and I can barely code anything worthwhile in Gamemaker

maybe not

>>171704738
You barely need coding experience with RPGMaker unless coding is what you're specifically going for. Go try making a game.

Damn. I came up with my characters before I came up with my plot. What do I do now?

>>171706918
You just need something to bounce them off of. Tomb of Horrors? Evil Wizard? Killer Robots? Competing on a game show?

>>171706918

Now think about some exciting situations to put those characters in. When you have a bunch of them - try to come up with how to justify those situations with a story. When it's all done - you should have a basic idea for the plot and the direction you would want to take with it.

>>171707285
>>171707712
They fight an evil undead-businesswoman. What I don't know is how they would meet and why they would join together.

>>171707786
Some complete strangers just happen to be taking the same elevator to floor 66 for an important business meeting at 6 o' clock sharp. Unfortunately for our heroes, this elevator ride quickly becomes a HELL-evator ride as they are magically intercepted by a demonic undead mistress and pulled into her demonic realm.

Of course that's fucking goofy, but it doesn't always hurt to try and go outlandish as possible for ideas.

>>171707786

>why they would join together

If they are fighting an evil businesswoman together, they should have something in common, right? Maybe they were all affected by her actions? It should be enough motivation to team up and try to take her down together.

>how they would meet

That's harder, but I think this anon's idea

>>171708442

would work pretty well.

When you're trying to formulate a game do you usually start with maps first or database first?

Been playing around with perspective a bit. Some top down and isometric. Still doing a bit of testing with the isometric perspective. Which one looks best iyo

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>>171708726
I always start with systems first - eventing the desired parts of gameplay that aren't already built in. For example, a pop quiz system, broken into subjects and a method of tracking progression and completion. Or a system for turn-based, sRPG combat on a map. Or a system for generating random NPCs. Or a system for real-time combat. Or a system for displaying text on the screen.

And so on. I like to know what I want the game to do before I start designing it. My exact method of game building is first having an idea of what world I want, then how I want people to interact in that world, then building the necessary systems for that interaction, and then building the world with those systems in place.

I also put asset creation really low on my list of things to do since I'm usually wondering how I'm even going to make things work, and I'm likely to drop a project/move on to something else anyways. RPGM is really just a learning tool for me. I don't have any great aspirations of game making since I'm not a one man team. I can't art or music at all.

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>>171710559
Shit forgot to put the pic

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Finally got a release date set. Looking like I can make it.

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>>171708726
I always start with the battle system and other core things like movement/controls and making sure items and scripts work properly (mine has a hookshot for example, I wouldn't want to start planning maps around it if I don't get it working properly first).

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Made up a city using Yanfly's doodads and with switches and his region plugin I'll make it to where the building will disappear if you go under it or the ones in front will disappear.

>>171710853
I almost thought the thumbnail was for The Lion King.

>>171711538
Good!

>>171710853
This looks great but it's hard to see the two on the sides since they blend in with the background

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>>171711809
This better? Also, do you prefer this font for the title or the other one? Thanks for your feedback!

>>171711991
If it's going to be a higher res then the first one's better I think.

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They pop a little more now, but not as much as I'd like.

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Never give up Anon

>>171712765
>>171711991
>>171710853
I'll never get used to animals wearing jackets.

Can I make a game that resembles Old School D&D with high lethality at low levels, initially expendable PCs, and a focus on exploring and logistics

>>171717346
You can't make a game

so, is there any real benefit of buying RPGM MV on Steam instead of the oficial site?

>>171718285
Automatic updates and the work shop (never used it, though)
Also you can see how long you used the maker in total

>>171718285
get the original. I wish I had. I want to install it on Linux but it fucking sucks major dick trying to get steam to work properly AND get RPG Maker MV to work in that too. If you buy it from the site, you get the stand alone version PLUS a steam key. So you basically get both.

>>171718728
this anon is also correct. Having the hour counter is the best.

>>171717346
I'd say yes.

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Are two tile high character sprites really only possible in XP?

>>171719554
No, you can do them in VX Ace and presumably in MV as well.

Gimme a good comfy RPG to slowly play. Need something to do while I lay in bed before falling asleep for the next few weeks. Just beat DQ builders.

>>171720754
Natively or through plugins/scripts?

>>171721684
Natively, there are no restrictions on a character's size

>>171721449
Recettear

>>171721860
Oh, cool. I know less than I thought, I guess.

>>171722142
>While in bed
Whoops
Disregard that

>>171721449
If you have a Vita then Persona 4 Golden maybe?

>>171722552
>>171722971
>>171722142
Never played a Persona game before, and I don't have a vita unfortunately. I have a modded emu console I may just end up playing GBA FFV on.

>>171723442
Good taste, that's the best FF game.

>>171721449
I'll make you one LeoHeart.

One day.

>>171725342
Yes! Please do! I'm waiting.

I'm not sure how ridiculous I should make things in my RPG.

On one hand, I really like having most of the story down to earth and low fantasy with a few high fantasy bits and locations. But on the other hand I could make it completely nuts and have a whole lot of original ideas. But that might distract from the "seriousness" of the story.

Any idea what to do?

>>171727154
Go nuts and be serious

>>171727238
Im trying to keep things dark. Even with insanely over the top bullshit around even corner will people still be attached to the story?

>>171727316
Well, I imagine that at least some would like it.
Can you give some examples?

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>>171727687
A wizard with a mechanical gauntlet that fire punches shit.
Jellyfish people created the planet but fucked a few things up and are now stranded on a shithole they made.
Dragons are all extinct but also ghosts. They spook around and possess people for revenge.
A Sphinx that sucks at riddles so it tells bad jokes instead and is unable to guard its post.

>>171728138
That certainly sounds interesting. I'd say try to make a demo and find out what people like/dislike.

>>171727316
Batman has found ways to be humorous. It makes the dark stuff seem darker that way, too

>>171727316
>>171728138
Goofy shit has always coexisted with serious, dark stuff. Mother 3's a great example.

>>171727154
Go nuts with setting, have all major characters either go with it or play it straight.

>>171710749
One on the left, The less those diagonal lines are used, the better imo.

>>171703424
>voice changer

Are you suggesting my post was Pedrovin shilling his own game? Tbh I only know he's the guy working on Steel Zeroes from his screenshot because all of his characters have the same smug anime face.

>>171734880
He probably misquoted your post and meant to quote the original.

>>171727316

People will be attached to the story, even when completely insane shit happens on the screen, if the plot is good.

Mixing dark themes with crazy/goofy stuff can work surprisingly well. The games that do it have a very special "flavour" to it. If you need an example - play some Yoko Taro's or Suda51's games. Personally, playing them have really eased me to the idea of going nuts in my own game.

>>171717346
Please do. It'd help balance out the mary sue stories about fallen angels, worlds made out of muh memories and muh feelings.

I'm so fucking sick of your cliché chuni shit, rpgmakers. None of those games need to be made, we have a billion already.

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Good morning bump.

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Good night bump

Stop dying

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>>171726698
what is comfy?

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At this rate, we're gonna reach the big 200th general in only a couple of days.

Does anyone know of an Ace script that will let me track battle wins/losses?

>>171747670
Did we have any plans for that?

>>171749728

Somebody gave an idea for a game jam a few threads back, but no news about it ever since.

What's the script call equivalent of a label in VX Ace?

After playing with several well-made RPG Maker like Nocturne: Rebirth, I find that you don't need a lot of location to make the game good.

>>171751095
Location?

>>171751468
I mean map, dungeon, town, and stuffs.

>>171751095
very true. That entire story happened in a forest. A rather big forest, but it only ever had 1 village.

>>171751468
Presumably he means a metric fuckton of maps

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Just wanted to ask you guys your opinion regarding this.

>>171755285
took me a moment to realize what this is
i prefer the second way but using a mix of both can be good if you keep the second way just for important scenes between main characters

>>171755285
Top for general dialogue.
Bottom for important scenes.

>>171755285
Mix, first (sans portrait) for minor NPCs and such, with second for important™ conversations between main characters.

>>171755285
Top almost all the time.

Bottom for official speeches, really big people, and simple animation.

>>171755487
>>171755561
>>171755571
>>171756123
Seems like a shared opinion. I like this mix thing so alright.

I'm bored.

I CHALLENGE YOU! Yes, you, to go make a game right now. Give yourself 24 hours, do 1 dungeon, 1 town. It doesn't have to be good.

Go! Do it!

>>171750981 here, there really doesn't seem to be a script call command for a label. What I need to do is this:

start
<stuff> <variable a += 1>
variable a = x?
if no: go to start
if yes: continue

How could one do that in VX Ace? Alternatively, a loop might work, but the only thing I found for that is:

For#somethingend

Is that actual code?

Tileset builder for MV.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/608680

>>171765986
Does the town have to be an actual town, or is it just a safe zone kind of thing with NPCs, like a camp or something?

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>>171765986
I might take on your challenge anon, as I've never finished a game

>>171674148
DUDE GOLDEN MEAN LMAO

>>171769537
JUST A SAFE ZONE. 1 safe zone, 1 dungeon. Good gameplay optional.
>>171770052
Do it.

>>171770489
>JUST A SAFE ZONE.
Alrighty, I'll take you up on your shit.

>>171770724
GOOD. I'll give you all some leeway in timing but post your games at or around 4:00 PM EDT (8:00 PM GMT)

RPG Maker fighting game when

i don't mean a fighting game made with rpg maker

but a fighting game with characters from anons

I WILL SAVE YOU

>>171773223
Also, bonus points (not that we're keeping track) to people who post pictures of their progress as they go about it!

LIVE

>>171777415
If I didn't have to work I'd be down.
Could be fun to have weekend 'one-day game' marathons, though.

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ARIIIIISE
and live again

>>171775258

So MUGEN with RPG Maker characters?

>>171775258
So an /rpgmg/ fighting game, not an RPG Maker fighting game?

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>tfw most of my 24 hours for the challenge will be spent making custom assets because the default generator has shit all to work with

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>>171780941
>I said SLAY the evil not- ugh!

Should I jump on XP for 9.99 if I have zero art, coding, and writing skills, have zero discipline, am easily overwhelmed, just an all around failure of a human bean BUT, I want to make a neat detective game.

>>171789268
Sure you can do that, or just pirate MV

>>171789268
>Should I do thing I want?
Yes.

>Have had a strange dream
>Wonder if I can incorporate it in my game
I don't think a Japanese delinquent girl would fit my game at all but it was interesting nonetheless.
Did any of you had inspirations via dreams?

Can I volunteer for Chapter 3 or 4 of the collab project this early? Do I need a trip or anything?

>>171785776
I'm just gonna use MSpaint barf for mine.

>>171790686
>Can I volunteer for Chapter 3 or 4 of the collab project this early?
Don't see why not
>Do I need a trip or anything?
Yes

>>171790686
Sure you can, but I think the work on chapter 2 just started so you may have to wait for a while.
While I don't know if you NEED a tripcode, it would certainly help to prevent any shenanigans.

>>171755285
How the hell do you do the bottom one? Is it an MV thing only?

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>>171789268
You can develop all of those skills if you get it and try hard enough anon. I believe in you.
>>171790686
A trip would definitely help.

>>171791169
>>171791196
Yeah I'm cool with waiting. Never used a trip before but I'll whip one up. Never finished anything before either so odds are I'll drop it anyways, but I want to give it a shot.

Working on chapter 2 right now - you'll be taking control of Jaye for a chapter on her "special assignment".

Also, I found a TON of malformed action sequences and little bugs so I'm gonna be fixing those before any actual work work gets done.

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>>171790950
>>171785776
I was hoping to use the Pop! Horror dlc that hasn't been touched since I got it.

But now you guys are being all intense about it, makes me feel lazy as fuck.

>>171791345
Anyone know? Please?

>>171792518
Use the dlc mate. Less time on assets means more time on the actual game.

>>171791345
>>171792842
Couldn't you just do it with the "Show Picture" option in events?

>>171795551
Im a dumbass

>>171765986
I'll start tomorrow.

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I have a bad feeling about that collab game though.

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>>171798502
What do you think is going to go wrong?

>>171793594
I will! So it actually gets finished.

So far I've finished a GDD, and finished the safe area.

>>171798502
Everyone should

>>171750981
>>171767559

pls

Is this engine capable of supporting a game with detective elements? Image capture, branching dialogue tree, 2many NPCs etc.
Is my inferior negro brain capable of creating said game?

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How do I play these fracken Game Jame games?

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i don't think i've encoded png correctly. i think it has to do with how i'm doing IDAT chunks. i'm open to suggestions

>>171801396
Yes
Yes
You should really make a small basic game to learn the engine first

>>171801645
Remember, it's not a glitch, it's a feature!

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What's the best way to go about explaining the controls to the player?
I want to be as unobtrusive as possible.
Am I overthinking this?

>>171801396
Not sure what you mean by image capture, but it can do everything else.

If you know java you can do pretty much anything with the engine.

If you're like me and don't know shit it's pretty user friendly. It holds your hand through it/does most things for you. That's always nice.

But yes you should start with a basic game just to get comfortable with the engine.

>>171744896
Man has to get groceries for niece/nephew. Stumbles upon pet. Hijinks ensue.

>>171802058

Option in the menu for controls that shows the image for the controls. No need to hand hold, Just give them the ability to look at the controls if they want to and leave it at that. Unless you allow a player to remap their keys then it's a whole lot of messed up and i wouldn't want to be stuck with the job of making it work.

>>171755285
Def don't do the bottom one for all dialogue. Think of the art assets you'd have to create.

>>171802141
Basically capture "photos" of certain scenes. If there is a body, you'd have a zoomed in screen capture of that asset, and it'd have "notes" taken by the PC. You'd have to go out of your way to find them. I tried to dick about in Gamemaker with this idea, but I couldn't implement it, being a brainlet and all.

>>171803532

Just have to draw a portrait for every character in the game and then draw 5 or so facial emotions for each and you're good to go. Surely it's not THAT big of a project right?

>>171804429
Ah, I was under the assumption that there'd be a lot of non essential NPCs to talk to, 5 character portraits ain't that bad.

>>171804045
whats stopping you from doing that with events and the show image command

>>171804429
If you have too few, it feels more lifeless than the top version.

Are the defenses for the castles/towns in your game realistic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYaoKHGP0dc

What's that Anon?
I should work on my project?

>>171806542
>feel really motivated and start working on my project
>remember how painful mapping is
Fuck mapping. It's easily my weakest skill.

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Which one(s) should I get?

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>>171807189
Why is this so expensive?

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Anyway, for those interested in the progress on the collab...

Welcome to silent hill.

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>>171807189
The fuck is this?

>>171804045
You can do what >>171805252 said, find creative way of doing what you need when the engine limits you.

>>171806542
Work on your game.

>>171805252
Great idea, being a brainlet is the gorram struggle.

>>171807564
You better include that date with the dancer.

>>171808128
dont be afraid to ask for help

>>171807564
Just a normal day in Jersey.

>>171806992
I feel you man, I HATE mapping. It's my worst skill after drawing.

I've circumvented that by working on a first-person dungeon crawler.

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>>171807365
>>171807617
Make maps and shit.

How do you keep low-tier skills relevant in mid/lategame?

>>171815195
>having tiered skills
There's your problem.

Not every game needs Fire 1/Fire 2/Fire 3/Fire 4 etc.

Unlocking new skills doesn't mean there has to be a power disparity between the old ones. Having more options in battle is already an advancement.

>>171815195
My thoughts have always been using a percentage for damage rather than flat damage. With flat damage, it will only work on enemies in the beginning(if it's a starting or early spell) and not on near end game skills. But using a percentage, like 25%, it scales as the game goes on and possibly quite viable. Also status effects.

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>>171801645
i finally got it. i figured it out. so many hours of research into the png header format, and it finally paid off. i feel so proud. i finally have an in-game screenshot feature. hug me, /rpgmg/

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>>171816475
Good work man
Mind sharing it?

>>171816698
as soon as i clean my shit up and make it serviceable for regular users, sure why not?

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>>171816475
Proud of you, man

>>171816475
nice, i've been using mapshot as my tool but this is awesome because you get the characters in the pic too. GODSPEED YOU SMART ANON.

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>>171726698
>>171807564


Finally finished Chapter 1. I figured I'll give my own comments so I can go sound important.

>Maybe consider putting in Yanfly's animated tiles option into the game? I've had some lag issue and it seems to be from animated tiles and how big the maps get.
>Leo, was Eye in the Sky a.k.a. NECROLITH an intentional thing, or is it coincidence that it happens to look like something from the VX Ace collab?
>A couple of minor typos.
>The monsters in the forest that can use ZaDark are really damaging, and really draining on the party's resources. Maybe lower how frequently they can use it? Them casting MaDark is fine.
>The villains maybe appear a bit too abruptly. We barely know about Jaye before Griselda shows up as well.

Either way, looks good. Hope you guys can keep the flow going then.

Well, I'll be damned. RPG Maker generals are still a thing. I thought they'd died out long ago.
Ahhh, nostalgia.

It feels really good just dicking around in MV. I'm half tempted to try and throw together another game again.
Well, I'm happy just playing all the other games. Even with all of the super AAA flashy releases and people trying to outdo each other lately, there's something comfy about playing a guy's little RPG Maker game with the good ol' text boxes.

I'm looking to dip my foot into RPGMaker. What's the best way to try it without spending money?

Piracy isn't an option for job-related reasons

>>171818560
http://www.rpgmakerweb.com/download#free-trials

>>171818650
I tried to do that for MV and I got .zip full of plugins and scripts and no executable. Where did I screw up?

Making cities without walls(as in the playable area is surrounded by buildings and shit for an illusion of the city being bigger than the actual map) is such a pain in the ass.

Since i don't have glowing shit on map transitions i just can't allow a player reach an edge of the screen and not be transported hence why i can't have a road leading off-screen.

How you do your maps? My biggest problem is actually seeing the bigger picture/getting an idea. So far i'm just putting building over each other until it looks good and oh boy do i redo that shit a lot since it usually looks bad/i realize i need a building i can enter but there are none left.

>>171820189
I actually draw my maps beforehand, it's way easier to plan this way

>>171821148
Well shit, time to level up my imagination then.

I try to draw and plan beforehand too but it always changes during recreation, usually for the worst since those changes come out of the blue.

Still thanks, i guess i just have to keep going at it until it works.

At least i don't have to worry about making it look good yet, still working with basic "geometry" so it walks good and ain't too narrow or wide.

>>171821827
Yeah, it's a lot of fiddling around until you find something you are completely satisfied.
If you are making a large town I would suggest splitting the map, this will help with performance and gives the illusion of being bigger.

>>171821148
It's great advice too, drawing things really makes you have to think about the map.

>>171811778
Those are some pretty sweet maps, no wonder it's pricey.

>>171806992
Mapping is fucking hard, you're not alone Anon.

It's jut, you have to make it fun for people. That's so hard. What even IS fun?

On that subject, here's some progress of the 24-hour challenge, it's the dungeon map so far.

I might not finish until sometime tomorrow night though, since work is a cunt.

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>>171822370
Forgot the image.

Does anyone know if "New World Symphony No. 9 in E minor" is free to use? Because i'm an unoriginal fuck and want to use it for a fight on the moon.

>>171824392
All historical musical works (pre-1922) are public domain.
Have fun.

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Should I do it? I have just enough mexican shekels to buy it.

When can I expect a new and better version to come out? I don't wanna feel like I wasted my shekels in an outdated engine.

Also can I used pirated assets or am I limited to free stuff unless I buy more stuff?

>>171824858
No idea when they will release a new maker, I think they are going to milk MV for quite some time.
Yes you can use pirated assets as you find them.

>>171824858
Well as far as the patterns of other previous makers, a new RPG Maker is out roughly every three years. MV hasn't been out for two years yet, and VX Ace, the previous maker, already has a bunch of script support moving away from it.

And since MV's biggest thing is Javascript, the script scene for it is still very strong.

I doubt MV will get outdated soon. You have at least a year and a half before that company might even think about a new engine, and that's plenty of time for you to get a moderately good game out.

>>171825820
>Yes you can use pirated assets as you find them.
If you don't mind spoonfeeding, are there any other packs aside from the one in the OP?

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Holy fuck it's frustrating to see all these plugins but none of them do what you want them to do. Why can't i have free turn active combat? Why do enemies have to sit and wait for me to make up my mind on what i want to do before it gets to attack me? Why is this simple ATB mechanic not a fuckin default by now? Why do plugins claim ATB but they're just as turn based as default RPG maker, They just do it a different way.

It's not an Active Time Battle if the battle freezes time to wait for you when your timer is full.

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A collection of Ranger skills. From left to right.

Marksman's Stance, Quick Shot, Eagle Eye
Strider's Stance, Spike Trap, Peregrine Blade

With just that context can you guys make these out? Shit is super hard.

>>171826196
Sorry, but I wouldn't know. I create my own assets.

>>171826602
I'm not entirely sure what he is doing in the Marksman's Stance, is he holding the bow sideways?

>>171827024
Supposed to be prepping/unsheathing the bow. Its really hard to get it right with that tiny ass space.

>>171826602
I can't really tell what the first image is, I have no idea even with the context.
It's easy to tell the second one's an arrow.
Third one is well done, I can tell it's a bird with glowing eyes.
The 4th one looks like a dark monster with a silver head to me, not sure how that relates to strider's stance.
If I didn't have the name for context I'd think the 5th one was a mountain range with a waterfall.
I can tell the last one is a sword.

I think you're cramming a bit too much detail into some of these for how little space you have to work with.

>>171827817
The spike part of the spike traps was fine before, looks a bit more "biological" now. It's the white part that throws me off the most.

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Good night bump

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Any TBS plugin for MV?
I think I saw one random anon showing his work in this thread.

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This thread really attract hardworker anons.
Look at them working on their game.

This is why the thread keep hitting page 10.

>>171818560
>What's the best way to try it without spending money?
Emulate a console version (SNES, PS1, GBC, DS, etc.). You can't share them with friends, but they give you what you need and they're optimized well (everything's easy to find)

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Saw the spritesheet some other anon shared here yesterday and got inspired to try to create one as well. Having quite a hard time making the frames stay on the same place while ingame tho. Is there an easier way of knowing how it will be mapped exactly?

>>171837526
Shoulda drawn a grid, anon. Right now it's 288 pixels across and 320 down pre sprite

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A little over 5 hours left for the 24 hour challenge bump.

>>171834915
There's Lecode Tactical Battle System.

>>171842254
Thank you. It looks promising so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQ8r5tHgXs

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>>171844392
That looks fucking amazing, but I have to practice basic game planning before I work with anything more advanced than the default system. At this point, it's too cool for me to use.

>>171824392
>>171824697
I think the recording matters, like if you feed the notes into a music program that's fine, but a modern recording may still be owned by the performer? Don't quote me though.

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Who likes block pushing puzzles?

>>171844392
Yeah, all I want for it is a cover system.

What's the highest level your characters can advance to? I'm only going to level 20.

>>171849374
I thought about making a game with huge numbers a la Disgaea, but MV's limitations are proving themselves annoying.

>>171850854
I'm coming from a tabletop background, so really big numbers don't appeal that much to me. It stops being interesting when the only benefit to leveling up is more damage/health/etc., especially if there aren't any other skills or qualities to get when leveling up.

About 3 hours left for the 24 hour game! Even if you're not finished, post what you HAVE done!

How would one go about playing the game jam game? Do I need to purchase MV?

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>>171826443

Seems i just needed sleep. I found what i wanted.

Victor's ATB has Wait and Active ATB modes you can even leave it up to the player to decide which they want to use in the options. Now the only downside is that it's not compatible with yanfly's battle engine core. Regardless of the incompatibilities having full active time battles is a thing of beauty.

>>171852672
MV games don't need you to have RTP, if that is what you mean.

>>171853648
Well, I DLed the file, but there isnt an launcher or executable, just a bunch of asset files.

>>171852198
>implying I started yet

>>171852198
>Even if you're not finished, post what you HAVE done!
But what if all I have is maps with no encounters or events yet?

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>>171852198
I finished the dungeon, just have to actually make the battles and script the ending and I'm done.

I also slept in so I might be a bit late, sorry senpai.

Though considering I've never actually finished anything before this is going well, I might just make custom assets and just expand on this game. It's been an awful lot of fun.

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>>171842254
>>171844392
>there actually is a tactical battle system
oh shit, nice!
One of these days I might actually decide to try and make a game with this afterall. I've had ideas floating around in my head for a while, and a tactical system would open up more potential for shit like positional shit, auras, projectiles, traps, aoes and stuff.

Now all I have to do is actually muster up the energy to get some proper work done. Mostly graphical shit, I suppose.
Pic related is what I wish I could make.

>>171852198
I got caught up with life and couldn't join.
:,^)
>>171855682
That's a bitchin map.

>>171856506
That's fine! I'm going to host more of these sporadically. As long as at least one person can do it, that's great!

>>171856703

I also couldn't join, but I would be down for at least one such challenge.
I'd love to test my brand new MV that way!

It would be nice if you did these on the weekends. I think more people, me included, would be willing to join.

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>>171858347
>It would be nice if you did these on the weekends. I think more people, me included, would be willing to join.
Seconding this.
Or maybe do 24 hour ones randomly during the week and have 48 hour ones on the weekend.

>>171860543
>>171858347
So this weekend 48 hour challenge?

>>171856506
Thank you, first map I actually finished too. Feels great.

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So, some time ago I made a simple first-person script, inspired by that one anon's 8 bit dungeon crawler. However, trying to create the graphics required for this in a resolution as high as 640x480 and with a LOS of even just a few tiles was extremely time-consuming, what with having to draw the same object in roughly 50 different perspectives and sizes for just one tile.

(cont.)

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>>171861917
Now I gave it another try, using only perspective-less sprites to try and keep down the workload required to create the resources. Note that while previously the tile size was 3x3m, it's not 1x1m, allowing for more detailed environments and movement. I initially wanted to have a draw distance of 20 tiles, but I'll have to cut down on that a bit due to framerate drops.

Anyway, here's a first picture. Now to actually create some "textured" content.

>>171861347
I don't have to work on the weekend so I am 100% down for a 48 hour weekend challenge.

Do you like having smooth not as laggy map transitions or do you prefer no map transitions with 150x100 maps? On one end you've got an immersive large map but the choppy stutter you get will weaken the experience and on the other end you've got smaller 50x50 maps with less lag but black edge transition.

>>171861917
>>171862213
Interesting stuff

>>171865083
Transitions. There's a very fine balance you need to strike with huge, open maps and it's very rarely done right. You tend to either end up with areas that are just lots of dead space, or you fill in everything and it feels like everything is just packed together too tightly.

>>171866478

Thanks, I was having trouble deciding on which i should use. Making a huge map and getting stuck with the decision helped me understand how to make good map transition at least. Make a huge 200x200 map and then cut it into pieces so it all flows together rather than trying to make each map individually which was always the most difficult thing to deal with for me.

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How do y'all feel about the many hordes of different horror games done in the engine?

>>171869665
I always thought it was weird that when it comes to non-RTP RPG Maker games, there's more """"horror"""" games than actual RPGs.

>>171869665
Eh, they're okay.

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So, I'm trying to make my collisions better here, is it any better? I tried filling the tile more with the characters. They still stand far apart, but I don't really know what to do at this point. =/ Non-grid based movements sucks so much.

Work on your game

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Stay alive

>>171875387
Back your shit up.

>>171877931
that might be in the next podcast....

>>171870285
Horror Game
>Static MC
>fewer then 4 NPCs
>set in a single location like a hunted house or abandoned school.
>Nothing is explained, just implied through notes you pick up through the game.
>2-6 hour gameplay on average
>Almost entirely an Adventure based with weak RM-grid based Action combat.

Vs

RPG
>Dynamic Party of 3-4 characters
>Visiting a handful of towns, full of NPCs
>Motives, Relationships, have to be explored on top of World Building
>10hr game, minimum.
>RPG mechanics in battle only. Dating Sim side-quests and Adventure based dungeons. QTE mini-games are common too.

should I do a playthrough of the collab game and record it?

>>171880603
Sure, why not?

>>171880603
Of course, what's your channel?
Also How do you play the game

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>>171875387

I'm working, It's a pretty big project though.

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>>171882143
>single player FFXI
>mfw
Needs DNC, SCH, and RUN though.

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>mfw when no one beat the 24hour challange

Is there a way to make an event that only triggers when you try to close the game?
Can't find any scripts that do this.

>>171882512
W-what? I just finished my game, I'm just also on the clock now.

>>171883701
Swell anon, post screenies when you can.

>>171882467

I was planning on adding in Dancer and possibly Rune Fencer. The mapping is the biggest undertaking, I'm cutting it up a bit which is helping. South Gustaberg is a little smaller and North Gustaberg is going to be much smaller because it's single player, It doesn't have to be huge. Bastok Mines has been completely removed and the entrance from South Gustaberg into the Mines area has turned into a cave leading to Zeruhn Mines. Also the Auction House's have been removed.

I'm trying to keep it faithful but i obviously need to cut useless things that only served to pad out play time for subscription fee.

Most of the NM's are going to be in the game as well as all the job quests

>>171881149
>>171881636

well I haven't uploaded a video in years because when I was beginning to make let's play episodes, my power supply died and I didn't get another one for 6 months. By that time I didn't make any new ones. I was pretty goofy at the time, but I'm not as much of a try hard now.

I'd probably just play the game as a first impressions, going over what I like and maybe don't like.

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>>171884562
>The mapping is the biggest undertaking
Yeah, I found that to be the case when I looked into doing something similar back in VX Ace. The only zones that I remember really working well with the 2d map style as they are were Upper/Lower/Port Jeuno and Port Bastok.
I look forward to seeing more of your project; good luck!

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>>171882143
>FFXI Offline
I need this so hard.

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Page 10 bump.

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Is it okay for a man to wear a brooch?

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>>171869665
Is the market too oversaturated?
I've only seen rpg maker horror games that are full of jump scares and not many ways to actually fight back.
I'm taking silent hill's Atmospheric™ approach with mine and also using many of the same things like a flashlight, guns, and limited ammo/health packs. Are there any games similar to that already?

>>171893549
>Is the market too oversaturated?
It's probably oversaturated as hell, but I don't really think that's a reason against doing something.
The market's absolutely full of sci-fi alien romps and medieval fantasy epics in Not-Europe, we can take another haunted house.

Mind, I'm personally quite biased to them. Nearly all of the indie games that inspired me when I was young were nip-made horror RPG games.

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>>171883940
Whoopsie daisies, I forgot to move everything back to starting position, here's the game now;

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6giaih2iiur1aug/Zombones.7z?dl=0

10 minutes of gameplay, isn't very good, etcetc.

First game whoop!

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>>171895363
>First game
Congratulations Anon!

>>171895363
I did a lot of fapping, tripfag anon. My cummies are never lackluster.

>>171895363
Neat game, lots of bugs, like crashing when dialogue boxes try to trasition. , but that is to be expected.

>>171895363
The game crashed when I tried to talk to Bunny, what was supposed to happen after that?

>>171895363
>First game whoop!

Congratulations!

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>>171896970
I have no idea how to fix that stuff sadly.
>>171896789
It did? Weird, I have no idea why. Uh, at the end you mean? You just leave the apartment and fight more zombies then it ends.

>>171896362
>>171897246
Thank you anons, we should definitely do this challenge more often.

Maybe add 48-hour weekend challenges in OP. Might bring some more life into the thread.

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>>171897485
But anon, it doesn't let me leave
>tfw I can't senselessly murder Zomboidos

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>>171897608
Leave from where?

>>171897994
>He doesn't have a walkthrough up on gamefaqs yet
I walk to the door and it says "Why would I want to leave?" Am I just a poopbrain?

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>>171898460
Ohh!

Use the computer, get on discord and talk to your friend. It starts the game.

Thought you went into the library and I forgot to add a portal out or something.

>>171896970
>>171898681
But I'm also this anon. Also the game looks very nice, I'm used to the NES style RPGmaker games.

>>171899253
Wait, I think I accidentally one of the faces.

Is that's the problem?

>>171899635
Yarp

Are there any RPGs that lack experience/level systems? Not stuff like action RPGs, I mean your typical turn based RPGs, just without exp.

>>171899762
liar jeannie

>>171898460
>Markiplier hasn't played his game yet

I wonder how it feels to see other people playing your game.

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>>171816475
You're the dog in this picture.

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>>171899719
Fuck, must have deleted it when I was removing the basic assets.

Whole bouquet of whoopsie daises guys, here's the working link (I hope)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6giaih2iiur1aug/Zombones.7z?dl=0

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Well with this in mind, 48 hours sounds great for this weekend. Didn't really have enough time to go through all of my mistakes I noticed.

OH WELL.

Am I likely to get RPG Maker VX Ace for any cheaper than it is now?