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Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more.

/sthg/ #705 - World War Egg Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Sonic Project 2017 is now Sonic Forces
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sxsw-sonic-2017-project-sonic-2017-is-officially-called-sonic-forces/

Archie Comics April 2017 Covers and Solicitations
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/archie-comics-april-2017-covers-and-solicitations/1100-156341/

Sonic Mania Delayed to Summer 2017
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sonic-sxsw-2017-sonic-mania-delayed-to-summer-2017/

Flying Battery Zone Shown for Mania
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sxsw-sonic-2017-flying-battery-zone-revealed-in-sonic-mania/

Sonic Forces Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zm0FvEn5CU [Embed] [Embed]

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

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In honour of Sanic Forces, I dedicate this tune as official thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ
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>>171510285
That's some nice art
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First for physics.
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Reminder to tune in tomorrow for the Jun & Ohtani stream!
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>>171510650
has sonic's movement been programmed correctly for a change?
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>>171510650
>those bouncy balls in Studiopolis
God, I want to punch one so bad.
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I fucking hate SSMB so much. It's just a huge circlejerk of autistic faggots who suck the dick of popular long time members to climb up a social ladder. Having a different opinion from the popular members is a crime. And what makes it worse is the autistic reddit-tier like system. That website needs to be obliterated.
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>>171510545
Didn't people used to put a video in the OP for the thread theme?
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>>171510875
your time will come anon, as will all of ours.
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>>171511089
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>>171510803
Considering the game is built upon the critically-acclaimed "Retro Engine," yes. I can safely say, from what I've seen, it appears to be spot on.
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>>171511125
not for a while, but it goes.

>>171511317
Awesome.
Awesome to the max.
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>>171511089
This place isn't much better.
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>>171511089
SonicRetro is worse. I've never seen a community as elitist as this.

>need to write an essay on a new-person forum explaining why you like Sonic and how you'll contribute to the community
>have to wait for that to be approved
>given a trial period of 20 posts
>sometimes more than one trial
>if you don't demonstrate some level of creative talent (IE programming/art) your account is forever "pending approval"
>never get to know if you were rejected or not, or why

I understand wanting to prevent kids and cringe but come the fuck on.
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>>171511494
cute
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>>171511563
>need to write an essay on a new-person forum explaining why you like Sonic and how you'll contribute to the community
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>>171511520
It is already miles better just by virtue of the fact that this is an anonymous image board.
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>>171511757
It absolutely is.
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>>171511089
What happened now?
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Is yesterday's Boom episode up yet? Or was it a rerun day?
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>>171511563
>need to write an essay on a new-person forum explaining why you like Sonic and how you'll contribute to the community
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>>171511520
I've actually considered different Sonic communities and this is somehow one of the better ones.

>/sthg/
Can flip drastically in quality between threads but overall has some good people and great creative contributors.

>SSMB
A board for 13 year olds to roleplay and post fan fiction. Any actual discussion, of which there is little, is poorly presented and often bends to the whim of certain users due to a post Like system.

>Sega boards
A place for 13 year olds to roleplay and post fan fiction. No discussion at all.

>Retro
See >>171511563

>/fast/
The only time it's alive is to talk shit about how bad /sthg/ is. Any other time it's utterly dead.

Other communities are either too small or not important.
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Reposting because I actually like how this turned out.

Is it bad that my favourite characters are both Raiden and Silver?
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>>171512519
Is it bad that when people were talking about a "nerd scene", I thought about The Simpsons?
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so what's your thoughts on what we've been shown so far of Sonic Forces?
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>>171512519
Yes.
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>>171512706
I have no regrets, then
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>>171512639
hey buddy, did you get a load of the nerd?
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>>171512660
Consider me hyped
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>>171511563
>>171511757
>>171512024
>>171512095
Retro, for how fucking retarded and douchey their community can be sometimes, is commendable. If it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have some of the best ROMhacks and fangames around, and their autistic screeching is what led to Generations, the Classic Sonic comeback, and of course RubyEclipse.
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>>171511089
I hate that nepenthe cunt
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>>171512797
Pardon me?
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A girl's gotta have options.
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>>171513189
First off, delet this. Second off

>gets my hammer swingin'

What are you trying to say, Yoto?
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>>171512660
+Boost2win comes back insteadof more gimmick garbage
+Hedgehog Engine 2
+Theme song is kick ass
+Eggman Won
-Only Sonic again
-3 playstyles
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>>171512660
I hope both of the new games make enough money to continue this "Classic on one end, Modern on the other" duality so that more than one group is pleased at a time.
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>>171513221
best boys

yes, even Silver
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>>171513189
MFW there's a love triangle between amy sonic and shadow
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>>171513189
Erotic.
I wonder if she'd be up for a spitroast?
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>>171513189
>Amy lusting after Shadow
DELETE THIS
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>>171513304
She has a thick, Meaty Mallet.
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>>171512660
I'm really excited. I think trying to be more "gritty" or whatever would be fun, honestly a little disappointing if that one tweet about it being "not as dark as it seems" is true.

One big disappointment I have is that it seems to just be focused on Sonic. The whole "join the resistance" thing got me thinking there would be more going on than just Sonic or varying iterations of Sonic. I understand that mods will likely solve that problem, but that they aren't playable characters in the base game probably means that they won't be major characters in the story, which again I was looking forward to. I understand why so many people consider Sonic trying have any story leaning towards being dark or serious to just be stupid, and I even kind of agree with them, but I love that shit.
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>>171513103
Same, I can't stand that fucking bitch.
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>>171513391
That would be truly a blessing.
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>>171513103
Yup. Him and Diogenes. All huge cunts.
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>>171513189
YOTO HOW COULD YOU
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I want to hug Nicole.
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>>171513189
>Filename
Gee Amy!
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>>171513814
>>171513391
Fuck, forgot file.
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>>171512660
Having Modern and Classic gameplay is fine in my book, but it's this 3rd gameplay style that has me confused. We've already received confirmation that you will not be playing as any of Sonic's friends in this game which leaves us with 2 options:

A. We play as Eggman and his army, or
B. We play as Sonic for a third time, but somehow make it different enough from Classic and Boost to make it not redundant.

What could it possibly be? Help me out, fastbros. I'm wracking my brain here trying to make sense of this.
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>>171513919
I want to touch Nicole with magnets
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>>171513839
>>171513695
>>171513103
The fuck do you guys have against her?
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>>171513839
>Diogenes
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>>171512660
>>171510285
>>171512849
STANDING
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>>171514071
ON THE EDGE
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>>171514048
I've no idea who they're talking about, but I know SSMB mods have a reputation for being massive cunts.
eg. Hogfather
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>>171514048
Fuck off hodgefather
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>>171514014
Maybe they really did not abandon Lost World's gameplay, and instead mixed it up with the other two? It was more or less predictable they would build on it, given that they said they would abandon boost.
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>>171514014
The Eggman option isn't happening. The Nintendo Dream article has already specified that we are ONLY playing as Classic and Modern Sonic. This third style is either something for one of the Sonics, a filler style like Sky Chase in Adventure or the ship/bike in Rush Adventure, or something else entirely.
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>>171514071
>>171514150
>yfw the launch trailer is cut to this song
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Reminder that I got BANNED for speaking german on ssmb
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>>171514014
The third gameplay style will be a kind of between-levels filler like the boating in Rush Adventure. You upgrade Sonic's allies by getting red rings (red stars are featured prominently in the logo) and/or gathering supplies by grinding previous levels. Doing this enough times unlocks the next level.
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>>171514391
>Speaking nazi

You deserve it
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>>171514227
I wasn't defending them. I just wanted to know what did they do to make you guys hate them this much.
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>>171514391
Details?
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They should just increase the image limit. The ratio is too unbalanced compared to regular boards.
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>>171514391
To be fair, "type in English" is literally a rule there.
I mean, if you started speaking German here then I'd happily kick you out but then I am British.
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>>171514402
please no

I don't want another Unleashed medal hunt for christ's goddamn sake.
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>>171510734
Hell Yeah!
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>>171514579
It was even worse when we were a new general, we used to reach the image limit pretty bad, so I sent moot a feedback asking to pls raise it
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>>171512519
>>171512746
>Shadow is Sonic's Solid Snake (genetically altered super-soldier made by the bad guys, starts out as an ass, later finds friends)
>Silver is Sonic's Raiden (same hair, same voice actor)
Fill in the rest of this chart, if you dare.
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>>171514505
I said hello how are you in german and nepenthE banned me because she thought I was SAYING swear words in SWAHILI. I can't believe the bitch used google translate to translate.
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>>171513189
Well this makes sense for Boom!Amy at least since she showed interest in other guys. Thankfully not for Main!Amy. But either way, I'm sure Shadow wouldn't return her feelings.
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>>171514864
W-What
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POST YFW there's a love triangle between sonic amy and shadow in forces.
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>>171514909
Boom Shadow would call her weak and pathetic for having feelings
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>>171515074
>>171513453
Please stop.
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>>171514579
We could also try having discussions without having to rely on spamming memes oh who am I kidding we live for this
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>>171514618
If they're hyping it as a third gameplay then I don't think it'll be as shallow as merely grinding red rings. I think it'll be more like Rush Adventure where you grind short side levels for resources that you use to upgrade whatever, or possibly even Colors where you get red rings to unlock special stages, with the special stages being the third gameplay style.
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>>171515074
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>>171515074
Go back to FF.net, pls
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Christ can they just give up on "modern sonic" already? I don't see the appeal. SEGA releasing Sonic Mania is practically an admission of failure on their part, they should just give up on trying to make sonic translate to 3D.
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>playing Sonic Generations
>never bothered going into the collection room
>notice the song is Door Into Summer

Knuckles Chaotix had an unreasonably good soundtrack for how clunky it was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ4XIVOVIgU
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>>171514071
>>171514150
OF THE CRATER
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Eggman is able to take over the world because after the events of Generations, Classic Eggman went back to school and got his teaching degree.
With the newly gained ability to tell people what to do, Eggman slowly but surely took control of the planet.
Now Classic Sonic, Modern Sonic, and Silver have to go back in time and make sure Eggman flunks college.
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>>171515323
You have to stop living in the 90s anon. Literally everything is 3D now. THE 90S ARE NEVER COMING BACK.
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>>171515459
>THE 90S ARE NEVER COMING BACK.
I can make them come back and it'll be radical dude.
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>>171515112
>implying he wouldn't use her to spread his superior seed for the sake of hedgehog kind
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>>171515323
IGN pls.

So what was the first Sonic fan community you guys were a part of?

>>171515546
>Implying Shadow thinks anyone is worthy of carrying a child of his
>Implying Shadow wouldn't just clone himself
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>>171515546
So basically how sasuke and sakura ended up fucking?
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>>171515353
LOOKING AT THE ABYSS
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>>171515459
Oh no, I don't mean that in the graphical sense. I mean that sonic doesn't work well with 3D gameplay. I've played enough modern sonic games to say that they just feel like stupid easy roller coaster rides whose main attack mechanic is basically a slipshod fix that had to be introduced to compensate for the fact that sonic is too fast for precision platforming and combat.
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>>171515634
>So what was the first Sonic fan community you guys were a part of?
That's... actually a good question.
I'm not sure if I was on the ride first (if that counts) or on SSMB.
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>>171515634
SonicAnime.net
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>>171515459
Also, you think I'm the one living in the 90's? Sega can't release a single decent sonic game without putting classic sonic in it.
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>>171515780
I've had no problem doing either of those things in 3D Sonic games.

>>171515951
Sonic Colors. Sonic Unleashed, Heroes & Sonic's gameplay in SA1 & 2 were both fun.
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We need a Sonic-fied version of pic related.
If Toby's here, I nominate him.
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>>171515634
>So what was the first Sonic fan community you guys were a part of?

plus4chan I guess.
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>>171515112
i like how everyone wouldn't shut up about how edgy regular Shadow is, when Boom Shadow somehow ends up being more of an obnoxious cliche than Shadow prime ever was. He's easily my least favorite part of the cartoon, especially his awful voice.
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>>171515663
I have no idea how this would translate to a Sonic game but it's fucking great as art.

Vector's face bothers me a bit, it looks to small.
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>>171515634
>So what was the first Sonic fan community you guys were a part of?
SSMB 10 years ago.
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>>171515634
Sega forum.
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>>171515074
Not going to happen. And it's not like Sonic or Shadow care that much about romance anyways.
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>>171516025
SA doesn't hold up at all, and Unleashed was bogged down by stupid werehog levels. Colors basically only got on the radar by being one of the first games to completely dispense with sonics extended cast of shitty characters.
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>>171514864
"Hallo, Wie Gehts"
How does that turn into swahilan swear words?
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>>171515634
Sonic Blast
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>>171516248
>SA doesn't hold up at all
Speak for yourself, I can play it fine, though admittedly SA2 holds up a lot better than 1.
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>>171514681
Thank mr jun
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>>171516248
>Unleashed was bogged down by stupid werehog levels
It was the only part of the game that wasn't great, and even then it didn't bog it down as much as it just flatly disappointed.
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>>171515634
by technicality, SonicRetro. Then SSRG. Then /v/. and now /sthg/
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>>171515323
I agree. They should give up and just stick to stuf like Mania from here on in. Everything post 3&K is to be ignored, if not outright mocked
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>>171515385
>final level is a university
>enemies are security
>final boss is the headmaster
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>>171516459
Quit samefagging, samefag.
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>>171516251
Why don't you ask nepenthe shes a fucking idiot
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>>171515634
Sonic HQ's Mobius Forums.
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>>171515634
sonic passion
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>>171511089
It speaks volumes that the most active topics on ssmb are roleplays.
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>>171516306
I can play it fine, but I prefer to just leave it with my childhood memories along with PSO. You know, back when Sonic Team was Sonic Team.
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>>171514681
Someone post the webm oh Johnny going to sleep
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>>171516459
You do realize that if Mania doesn't do well in sales or reception, "Sonic was never good" will be out in full force for god knows how many years?
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>>171516802
Oh you had better fucking believe it will do well. If it doesn't, then it would serve as proof that the sanic fanbase doesn't even know what it wants anymore.
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>>171516802
I know, but it's better to stick to the safe Classic stuf than to go ahead with the Modern stuff that nobody likes
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>>171513189
Do you think Cindy is aware of the can of worms she opened and she's deliberate about it?
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>>171516728
holy shit the memories are fucking coming back
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>>171516768
Can't help you on that but here's another
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time to leave
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>>171516802
>>171516879
>mfw this is the end of the line and the Sonic franchise is literally going to die if either of these two games don't deliver
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I only go to this community because I can post uncensored Sonic opinions and don't have to be bothered about whether a topic is worth mentioning. I can talk about whatever I want about Sonic basically.
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>>171516905
They're completely are and deliberate about it and I love it.
I mean, if you're going to have to deal with this cancerous fanbase day in day out you better learn to have fun with it.
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>>171516905
Probably. She seems to be trolling though. I'm sure Shadamy fans are wetting their pants over this.
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>>171516905
No, there's no way they fully know, they are probably too pure.
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>>171516572
>headmaster
*eggmaster.
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>>171517148
Nah, I bet Cindy is a fiend for Shadamy porn and is stoking the flames to get more.
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https://youtu.be/aC6fjWybrCE

"Sounds like an anime opening" was my first response to the theme song. What was yours?
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>>171513839
>Diogenes
I have never seen a person with such a hot stick up his ass. It's amazing. Almost study worthy.
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>>171517016
Sonic will never have a proper crash and burn death. Ever since SEGA pulled out of the hardware game they've just got too much extra money to burn driving this franchise into the ground and never ever trying anything interesting or new with the IP sort of how Nintendo keeps Mario pretty safe with the one exception of his SSB appearances.

Only difference is that Mario is an enduring timeless videogame icon and Sonic is a fucking 90's mascot that should have died with the 90's.
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>>171517349
It sounds very familiar to an anime OP and I can't figure out which.
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>>171517390
Honestly, I'd rather have them play it safe with SOnic than try a million new things each game. If each game from here on out was 3D Boost and 2D Mania style, I think it'd be the best possible outcome
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>>171517016
I've been hearing this since Unleashed.
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>>171516802
I think it would be funny if Mania bombed.
Then maybe he'd stop being in the Modern games for no reason.
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>>171517528
This is the first time there's been a major turn-around for the franchise though. After all that apologetic talk about historically releasing rushed, crappy products, and the social media campaigns, and officially aiming for adult gamers? if they don't deliver, there's no fucking hope left. At least for me.
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bingas :DDDD:DDDDD
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>>171516802
>if Mania doesn't do well in sales
C'mon man, what alternate universe are you living in?
Reception, sure, but how often do Sonic games get a good reception.
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>>171517016
Mania isn't going to kill Sonic if it fails, it's just a cheap little fanhack they're publishing.
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>>171517648
If anything he'd show up even more.
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>>171517680
>Aiming for adult gamers
This is what's gonna kill it. Sonic's for fucking kids, and Forces seems to forget that
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>>171517349
I thought it sounded too Ohtani-like and that certain parts sounded very much like previous Sonic tunes. The part at 00:50 really bought me over, though, I wish it was longer.

Also listening to this again I can't help but think of a great intro animation with Sonic running around the destroyed city.
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Oh & threadly reminder to ignore shitposters.
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>>171517493
I agree. I still think it's sad that the most innovative and well-received thing SEGA has done is to just go backwards. I personally don't mind trying something different.
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>>171517852
>and Forces seems to forget that
Don't worry, I'm sure Pontac and Graff will set it right.
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>>171517349
>>171517424
>>171517884
It kind of made me think of Trigun, personally. At least, the beginning bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_nVgFoeDmc

And the later half feels really similar to Ys Seven's main theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fb9KLewxoI
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So is shun nakumura writing the story this time?
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>>171517969
True, true. There's no reason they wouldn't be writing for this
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>>171517680
>and officially aiming for adult gamers
When did they say that?
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>>171518003
I doubt it. They'll probably go with Pontaff
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>>171517969
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>>171518164
Who is Pontaff? Are they the reason the last few games have had awful writing?
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>>171518390
It's a combination of the two writers who've done all the games since Colors (And will likely be doing Forces) Ken Pontac and Warren Graff
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>>171518390
Yeah, but nothing has been said about them working on Forces.

>inb4 shitposts about Pontaff's stories being good because Sonic is a kids series
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>>171518390
>>171518481
And yes, they are the reason the last few games are written terribly.
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>>171518481
Why does Sega continue to keep these two again?
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>>171518000
That second video is great!!
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>>171518584
They're safe, reliable choices.
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>>171518552
>because Sonic is a kids series
Well, it kinda is, but that doesn't excuse the terrible writing.
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Threadly reminder that Shadow is a slow-mo faker who can only go fast because he wears rockets on his feet.
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>>171459801
>>171459852
What if eggman based his robots around the wisps used to power them, and the kind of color power obtained depends on the kind of robot destroyed? i.e. avian robots in Sky Chase and Launch Base would give Crimson Eagle wisps, Orbinauts and their relatives could give Indigo Asteroid, and bots like iwamadoki from sonic & knuckles and asteron from Sonic 2 could give Black Bomb, amongst others?

In other words, Sonic meets Kirby?
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>>171518000
>>171518586
Holy fucking shit I'm not gonna be able to stop listening to this for a while
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>>171518708
>This triggers the Sparky.
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>>171517852
I don't think you get what I mean when I say aiming for adults. Adults don't like EDGY HARDCORE XTREME BLOOD, GUNS, DEATH shit. They just want strong, compelling gameplay and narrative.
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>>171518673
Oh yeah it's a kids series, but that doesn't excuse the bad writing.
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>>171518741
One destroyed robot = one wisp power? Sounds like a huge mess.
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>>171514762
>Solidus
>true hero
>American patriot

Don't get me wrong, his ambitions were good and he was a fun character, but he also enslaved children and mad them eat gunpowder. Honourable true freedom and justice and shit is not a man who puts gunpowder into the cheerios.
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>>171516879
i wasn't talking about the fanbase. I'm talking about the casuals. They buy games on word of mouth alone. Classic Sonic games (or rather S3 & K) are armor proof in terms of being bashed. But what will happen when Mania is put under the microscope?

>>171516894
Mania is pretty much do or die for classic revival

>>171517730
Boom and Lost World showed what happens when "It's bad" gets around far enough. Sonic needs a good reputation from critics and e-celebs to sell games.
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>Sonic is for kids!
>no drama!
>no death!
>Sonic should be Ronald McDonald and bounce around making silly faces at Eggman in a world of sunshine and rainbows!

https://youtu.be/YYYEd5ltrW8
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>>171518981
>armor proof in terms of being bashed

Have you not heard the "Sonic was never good" meme that's been going around lately? Even the classic games have been getting some bashing lately.
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>>171518890
Maybe just big ones that require a substantial amount of energy in the form of hyper-go-on power to perform their tasks, such as the pufferfish dropships from Sonic Lost World, would require color wisps. Everything else could just run on white wisps.

Alternatively, maybe the wisps could have been weakened from being used in machinery, and could only be used in temporary spurts before needing to be recharged. A more limited color power tank, but the option to toggle the power at will. But would it be a gamebreaker?
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>>171519765
the world was gonna roll me
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>>171517852
Have you seen the type of games kids play today? Sonic Forces is fucking tame.
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>>171518760
What, do I need to do threadly reminders as well, saying that Shadow's speed has been stated to be innate, only for people to tell me to buzz off and "please don't"?
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>>171519765
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What are some multiplayer sonic games we could play together /sthg/ ?
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>>171520209
All star racing
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>>171518913
>he doesn't add gunpowder to his Cheerios
Whatever doesn't kill you immediately makes you stronger.
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>>171517852
Show me where in Forces it has dark grimdark shit.
>The darkest of times
You know as well as I do they ignore everything pre-colours.
It'll just be Eggman has won because Sonic was off sick for a week and therefore has to unfuck things with his clone.

Unless you've got definitive proof that Sonic Forces is hitting way above it's age rating, when shit like Digimon featured some pretty hard hitting themes for a kids show, then I won't concede this.

Also you're probably just shitposting. Have a good day anyway. And even if you get your kicks from riling up Sonicfags, you're not as bad as Sparky. So if you're a shitposter, you need to be better, and if you're being serious, well, you could get a lot worse.
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Well I finally decided to finish Sonic Rush months after I started it.
It was a really fun game for the most part but the boss fights just plain sucked. The final boss was alright I guess since it's the typical "Super Sonic fights Eggman in space" finale but other than that they were painful to go through and the reason I put the game off for awhile. That's my only real gripe with it outside of bottomless pits being as obnoxious as ever but that's Dimps for you.
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>>171520209
Racing Transformed
Sonic Robo Blast 2
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>>171520209
SRB2 is really easy to set up and the matches can be really fun.
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>No Sonic fighting game that you can play online

I would fucking love that.
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>>171520081
Fuck off Sparky, you're wrong and Shadow is a slow hedgehog.
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>>171515347

I find it weird to this day that it got two songs remixed in Generations (and a third to represent it on the album that came with the collectors edition).
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>>171520575
Sonic The Fighters.
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>>171518708
>>171518760
>>171520081
>>171520631
Shadow is naturally slow while Sonic is naturally fast. But Sonic still needs his shoes because any other shoes he tried to wear burst into flames when he ran. So he had them made special.
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>>171520209
Mario Kart 8
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>>171520081
Or you could drop it and increase the quality of the threads.
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>>171520759
... maybe the reason he didn't chase the Babylon Rogues in the opening cutscene of Sonic Riders was because he'd burn up the shoes he was wearing.
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>>171520664
Fighters can be played online? Have we done that together?
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>>171515634
The Tails X Cream Forums when I was 11. I don't look back. I know judgement awaits me for it on the day I die.
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>>171517016
This is more true than you think.
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>>171520759
why can't he run barefoot?
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>>171520309
Solidus was a more caring man than we knew.
I mean, when he lined up the soldiers and told them if they didn't kill, they wouldn't eat, that was just building much needed patriotic backbones of freedom.
When he fed them gunpowder it was to give them all an immunity to bullets because he loved them that much.
In the visual novel (which had such a shit ending it was unreal) for Jack's 7th birthday he got to slit 7 rebels necks. Y'know, like every other normal liberian child.
Solidus was a family man.

THIS ISN'T SONIC MY FAVOURITE SONIC IS RED SONIC MODS PLEASE
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>>171516073
It's because he's over the top edgy. He's the only character that's not a joke and that's the joke. He's
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>>171521130
The friction from the speed would cause his feet to disintegrate I imagine.
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>>171520759
Shadow is naturally fast. In my opinion, he just can't run like Sonic does because Shadow's abilities have serious drawbacks. Since everyone expects me to reference Flash somehow, it's like if a DC Speedster was running so fast that they get absorbed into the Speed Force and essentially "die". I feel like that's what would happen to Shadow if he took off his skates and his ankle inhibitor rings.
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>>171517349
My impression of it now is "perfect 90s Saturday morning action cartoon opening"
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>>171521326
>Shadow isn't as fast as Sonic because he's too fast.
You make me want to make more of these.
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>>171521326
fuck off sparky
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>>171521045
Don't know if it can be we certainly haven't.
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Guys I've been asleep for 25 hours has anything significant happened
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>>171521227
wouldn't that also mean his face would melt off at a given speed? or that his neck or any internal organs would be damaged beyond hope everytime he went from 0 to 600 in a few seconds?
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>>171521495
High quality videos of the Forces gameplay?

The main theme was uploaded to the official YouTube channel.
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>>171521596
Nah that was Friday.

Ive been asleep since yesterday
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Man, Sonic X concept art was lewd as hell.
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>>171521045
Pretty sure it could when it was released on consoles, though whether that's still a thing I don't know.
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>>171521707
Ah. In that case, nothing, I think.

Sorry.
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>>171521707
>25 hours
what happened, anon?
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>>171521438
What I mean is, Shadow = Sonic, but Shadow is like an unstable version of Sonic (ability wise). Like, (this is just an example, by the way) Sonic can run 10,000,000 laps around the world at 100x the speed of light, and he'd be completely fine afterwards. But if Shadow did exactly that, without his inhibitors and skates, he wouldn't come back from that. He'd vanish in the process.
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>>171521326
>Since everyone expects me to reference Flash somehow,
I like you when you're more self aware.
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>>171521495
A: No

B: Why were you sleep for 25 hours?
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>>171521891
I think your biggest problem is that Sonic does not equal Flash. You aren't just comparing apples to oranges, you treat them like they're the same thing. It's really not, at the end of the day.
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Sonic and Knuckles are equal as fuck in fighting ability
>Shadow can beat Knuckles but only when he takes off his inhibitor rings
Shadow > Sonic
Ultimate Life-Form > Ultimate Faker
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>>171521867
>>171521964

Well

I was up from Friday around 3 am and stayed up all night until 7 Saturday because I had to work, and when I was finally ready for bed it was 4 am so I decided to stay up, worked til 3pm saturday went home and slept

I don't like my new job really, all its made me do is wonder what I can do with my life that I can make an income yet not feel weighed down, I've posted about it before, I'm the resumefag .
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It's a canonical fact that everyone who appeared in Sonic Battle is equally powerful and can beat any other combination of characters in a 1v3.
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>>171522067
I was just using the Flash as an example, for 'running too fast has consequences'.
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>>171522287
Why the flash? Why not a different, more interesting character? Like Speedy Gonzales? Or Roadrunner?
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>>171522287
But you also have headcannons that Sonic taps into some sort of speed force, which is what I'm referring to.
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>>171522231
>I don't like my new job really, all its made me do is wonder what I can do with my life that I can make an income yet not feel weighed down, I've posted about it before, I'm the resumefag .
Welcome to life. Unless you're one of the lucky few, you're gonna hate what you do. You're gonna find enjoyment in between shifts, if that. IF not, wait till retirement to enjoy yourself
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>>171515634
>So what was the first Sonic fan community you guys were a part of?
I was part of this Sonic roleplay group on some Sonic online games site that had a chatroom feature I discovered years ago when I was like...11 or 12. They even got me to join DeviantArt for awhile.
At the very least I quit after awhile and I don't really regret it. I was just a dumb kid who didn't know any better.
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>>171522423
Who was your OC anon
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>>171522408
Sounds like a defeatist attitude, instead of just trying to find joy in between work I think I should still try to find a way to enjoy or change work to a point I'm happy with it, or at least satisfied.
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>>171522231
Ouch, survive.... What's your new job?
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>>171522625
Good luck with that, because there's little chance of finding a job that is fun and pays well. Better to have the latter
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>>171515634
SSMB back during the Gens hype. Made some good friends there but then the place started getting retarded and became No Fun Allowed.

Still have an account I have pop into every now and then but the magic is gone.
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>>171522347
Not him, but I'd presume it's because in-universe, their speeds can only reach the high-80s. Flash and Sonic can reach land speeds beyond what anything on earth -- living or mechanical -- can achieve.
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>>171522595
It was some rogue Metal Sonic model who was pretty much a lolrandumb Deadpool ripoff in terms of attitude.
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>>171522408
>mfw one of the "lucky few"
feels good man.
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>>171512660
It's all I wanted. Not Lost World, not Boom. But back to the best 3D gameplay style they've ever had.
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>>171521082
I had a youtube channel, with an online girlfriend that roleplayed as cream back at 2008-2009. I roleplayed as tails and made like 6 movie maker videos...even had a Tails OC named blast the fox. I dont know where she is now but..I feel you anon.
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>>171522257
Actually, not really, because, the entire game Sonic is holding back until the Ultimate Emerl fight, and of course Shadow has his inhibitors.

>>171522347
The Flash is, in my opinion, one of the top fastest ultimate speedsters in all of media, the other being Sonic himself. From everything I know about both characters, they are equally fast, and everything else about them almost seems perfectly opposed to each other. Sonic is Blue, The Flash is Red. Sonic is a free spirit who does what he wants and roams the land, The Flash is a police scientist who protects his city. Sonic's use of his speed is carefree, impulsive, high energy and relaxed, The Flash's use of his speed is more focused with a scientific approach to understanding it and manipulating it. The two of them meeting would be interesting to see, since they are so different from each other.

>>171522395
I don't think Sonic taps into a "Speed Force". I just think the way Sonic's speed functions is similar to the Speed Force, but it's entirely innate and not some extradimensional cosmic force permeating all of reality.
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>>171522820
But Speedy Gonzales is the fastest mouse in all Mexico. I bet he could beat Sonic in a race.
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https://youtu.be/Uipt68Tghl8

Shitty party or not, is any other CrowbCat video more blatantly demeaning than this?
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>>171522673
>>171522673
host at village Inn. It's not that bad, I just have been thinking a lot about what I could do for a living in the future that could allow me to be more in control of my time. I've got some ideas, but I haven't really found exactly what I want to do. I'm only 19, so I still have some time to decide.

Mania getting delayed doesn't help
>>171522752
Like I said, doesn't have to be fun, just satisfying or that I have control of what I do. Basically running your own business, which is very possible.
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>>171523024
No because that party, as nice as it was for reveals, was a fucking catastrophe. They even spoiled the Mania release by showing the logo before the trailer.
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Was I mistaken or did they not tease that Forces would have a new character with a picture of a silhouette.
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>>171522873
Aaron pls go.
>>171523024
It only seems so demeaning because of how much sonic means to us, imagine no mans sky fags when their video came out.
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>>171523234
There are No Mans Sky fags?
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>>171522231
draw porn if you want real money. I'm serious
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>>171523234
At least we've got 25 years to fall back on, what do No Mans Sky fans even get?
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>>171522940
Fuck off Sparky.
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>>171523234
I'd be terribly unhappy in his shoes, man. I was not built for being social.
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>>171523228
You're mistaken. The only silhouette at the panel was the Hard-Boiled Heavies for Mania.
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>>171523024
I am not giving that a watch. What happens in it?

>>171523234
>imagine no mans sky fags when their video came out.
I didn't hear about this, can you elaborate?
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>>171523436
thanks, shadman. But yeah might do that, I'm autistic and I've always been interested in cartoons and shit, I could do commissions and scamtreon and make a decent living.
>>171523586
then what do you do, anon . Also I wouldn't call Aaron social, more just semi-functioning
>>171523431
Sadly yes
>>171523464
>what do no mans sky fags even get
Disappointment
>>171523732
Just watch crowbcats "new disappointment discovered"
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>>171523234
>how much sonic means to us

Man, that must be like being an Elvis fan in the 70's... I feel for you son. I only lurk here because I haven't touched a sonic game since SA2 and Mania looks pretty cool.
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>>171523851
Haven't picked up a Sonic game since SA2? You've missed a lot.
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>>171523851
did you at least play the rush and the advance games?
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>>171523851
Except our "Elvis" is still alive, making only one - maybe two - albums a year, always attempting to do something "new" with his music, and generally causing enough controversy to dwarf the Lewinsky scandal.
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>>171516802
Hasn't it already done well? The PS4 and Xbone versions were the top selling items on Amazon or something.
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>>171523851
If it makes you feel any better the last game I played and liked were Heroes and Rush 1. Pretty sure the racing game doesn't count and I don't see myself playing through Generations again.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3GZDq8RSdw

I would kill for a Sonic theme Rythm game. Mario had one. Why not Sonic?
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>>171511278
06 because it's one of my favorite Sonic games
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>>171524341
>Heroes
>Shadow
>Sonic 06
>Secrets Rings
>Black Knight
>Riders games
>Sonic 4
>Boost games
>Boom games

I'd say kudos to him for dodging all of that cancer
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>>171523808
I'm an engineer. Currently working on embedded systems design.

Aaron has to go to all these conventions and talk to all these different strangers and with a lot of people from the fanbase. I'd say that's pretty sociable. What's your idea of sociable?
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>>171524784
Sonic 4 Ep1 & 2.
In fact I should stream A Sonic game today.
Which will it be fellas?
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>>171523586
I love Omega. He understands very little about life other than ANNIHILA-CHARGE ANNIHILA-CHARGE FIRE FIRE
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>>171525162
Sonic 3D Blast
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>>171525341
This.
Show some love for a game that everyone hates (for good reason) but has an amazing ost.
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>>171525162
>>171525341
going to clarify that I mean the genesis version
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>>171525043
>Boost
>Not kino
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>>171525341
>>171525459
Sure give me a few moments to set it up.
Whats the after-Game you guys like me to stream after completing Sonic 3D-Blast?
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>>171525612
Labyrinth
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>>171525485
No.
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>>171525485
u wot m8
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>>171525641
Only IF 5 People follows me during stream I will play that.
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>>171523024
>That entire Crush 40 part.
Holy fucking shit. I'm sorry guys, but it was cringy and funny at the same time.
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>>171513189
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Name a better time it was to be a sonic fan. Protip: you can't
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>>171525641
We isometric now.
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>>171525834
I want to see the contents of Amy's daydreams.
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>>171525834
Pretty good.

>>171525828
I just wanted you to suffer a little.
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>>171525834
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>>171525485
I didn't say stop
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>>171525459
I don't know why everyone hates it. It's miles better put together and more fun than CD
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>>171525859
1991-1994
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>>171526054
This 26 turning 27 Year old can do with more suffering after his mother and father recently pass away. Why not a bit more torture. :p
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>>171524762
Chronicles
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>>171526332
Thats not a Music Rythm game. I mean more like Mario DDR Mix or Hatsune Miku ish.
Something to actually go along with the music not some Shitty ass RPG.
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>>171525859
my echidna
>gems
>mega collection
>adventure dx
>adventure 2 battle
>advance 1 through 3
>chao swapping between advance 2, sa1, and sa2b

also wtf 4chan captcha?
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>>171526098
>more fun than CD
What are you smoking? Even young me wasn't a big fan of it and the special stages are snooze fests.

>>171526225
Oh.
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>>171523024
I'm surprised the view count isn't higher.
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>>171525834
DELETE THIS

AMY IS PURE
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>>171510734
What time does it start?
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>>171526098
It's the controls. The isometric camera angle makes it difficult to accurately determine how close you are to enemies. The camera angle also kills the speed. Actually CD and 3D Blast are similar in that they're both slower paced and more focused on exploration. I've played 3D Blast enough that it's not a problem for me, but it's not one of the better 2D titles.
>poor attempt at pseudo 3D
>piss easy special stages
>embarrassing re-release on the Saturn in an attempt to cover up several failed projects
Granted the Saturn and PC versions had actual 3D special stages but I don't think they're anything special. The Saturn ost is alright but the Genesis OST is pretty much the best thing about 3D Blast.
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>>171526742
Nobody knows.

Probably as usual (10pm GMT).
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>>171526225
Wait what? His parents passed away? Before hitting sub 30? Shit that sucks
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>>171526834
Hopefully he has two pieces of sushi before the stream.
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>>171526523
>still running XP
Holy fuck and I thought I was bad for using it up until 2014.
tfw XP was Wangblows last truly great OS.
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>>171526564
yeah, the special stages are kinda shit and a bit too easy. but fuck the time travel bullshit in cd. 3D blast at least feels like a sonic game to some degree.

>>171526784
>camera killing speed
at least I can bolt to where I need to go on a second playthrough much like the 2D sonics. can't say the same for CD
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>>171526963
He'll probably be half dead, he was travelling all the way from Japan. I just want some good news pls
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>>171527268
Bigger memers than Aaron.
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>>171526612
Yeah, a pure slut.
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>>171525834
This is Cindy's fault. She created this. What has she done?
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>>171527268
>ComicBook NOW

Not even memeing, but who the fuck are these people & why should I care?
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>>171525834
That tweet Cindy posted really got the Shadamy fans going, huh?
This is still funny despite that I really dislike the ship.
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>>171526989
I fished this computer out of a trash can. keyboard, mouse, spare ram, all the necessary cords, and a flat screen to go with it too

>>171527268
>sonic's annoying friends unplayable
>mfw
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>>171527054
It's too bad 3D blast wasn't a regular 2D title. I love Blast's level design (except Spring Stadium) and would have liked to see it in a Sonic and Knuckles style game.
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>>171527268
Literally who?
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>>171527268
So a bunch of nobodies are parroting other faggots.
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>>171527549
Yeah but I honestly think she's trolling. At least I hope she is.
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>>171527625
>autistic shippers gonna ship
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>>171527625
Oh it definitely did, but Yoto's pretty much done Amy & everyone.
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So anon when is that Sonic 3D blast going to stream? Twitch or Youtube?
If not I am going to watch Kung Pow enter the Fist from the Rabb.it website
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>>171527993
Oh, I know. I'm just talking in general.
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>>171527635
>I fished this computer out of a trash can.
Are you homeless? Did your parents die leaving you on the streets?
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When's Sonic Adventure 3?
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>>171528097
>Flying battery miniboss.
Well you tried.
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>>171528235
11 years ago
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>>171528235
2006
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>>171527268
As if they're going to play the game.
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>>171528474
>>171528554
Heathens.
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>>171528208
nah man. it was more like I was walking down the street and it caught my eye.
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>>171527412
Amy's only a slut to Sonic
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>>171528235
why do you make it since you want one so badly?
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>>171528879
>Doing Sega's job for them.
The fans can't keep doing that forever.
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> Baldy Nosehair
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>>171529349
>a giant talking egg
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>>171529349
>looks dead sexy in a miniskirt.
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>>171523024
>>171523146
>>171523234
>>171525830
The 25th anniversary party was perfect.

It had just the right balance of cringe and fun. That's why I love this community.
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>>171527969
It's pretty obvious that she is. It's weird to me that there's people who'll take it seriously either way.

Or care passionately about who boom amy likes.
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>>171530137
Yeah, I don't get it either. Boom!Amy has liked other guys before, so it's no big deal to me.
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>>171530043
SAVING THE STAKES FUH FRUM EVULLALALAAAH!!!
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>>171530456
I think it's just shipshit, & people not liking the idea of Amy liking someone other than Sonic. But yeah, while Boom!Amy likes him, she's been shown to like/crush on other characters before in the show.

Besides I don't get why people are so hung up on that tweet, when Cindy was clearly fucking around.
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PINKBELLY
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>>171531014
>>171530456
Never underestimate shippers.
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>>171531014
Exactly. I mean it would be weird if it was Amy in the main universe but not Boom.
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>>171525834
>not unsolicited opinions about Israel
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>>171527064
At the end of the stream I say we all type, "thank you jun" to show how much we love him.
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>>171531927
>thank you jun
>not thank mr jun
Anyway, count on me if we get good news. I am not sure what would be good news, I just want hype
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Anyone remember the "epic" Sonic Mania reveal?
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>>171532197
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>>171532291
Which one? The first or second?
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>>171532249
Good news is Jun being happy playing music
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HERE I COME, UGLIER THAN THE REST OF THEM!
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>>171533767
Knuckles is pretty ugly.
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>>171533752
What if he's playing music for someone else that's not us?
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>>171523024
The 25th party was a technical shitshow outside of the reveals.
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>people thinking Forces is a reboot/adaptation of SatAM or Archie
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>>171523024
CrowbCat and anyone else that obsesses over "cringe" are obnoxious faggots.
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>>171535052
Just let them be delusional.
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Post-Reboot has been tons of fun so far, but I'm going to miss when they actually put effort into explaining the characters' origins, even if some of them were poorly written. It was nice how there was enough attention put in that pretty much everyone, Sonic, Mighty, Espio, even fucking Heavy & Bomb - they all had their own origins and stories surrounding their existence and their lives. It was a bit more involved than the games just having them be "there". In the reboot they're all just kind of "there" now, and their origins that helped flesh them out and make them more interesting.


I bring this up because I suddenly remembered Charmy in the original-verse had brain damage.
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>>171535052
It's not a hard stretch to believe they're at least taking elements from SatAM. I mean they already put in chili dogs.
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>>171535341
Heavy and Bomb had origins in Chaotix, too. It's in the manual. And there was going to be an issue explaining how Sonic met Mighty and Ray in the comics, but those have been delayed.
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Where is a good site to search for Sonic rom hacks by order of release date?
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>>171527268
Do any of you actually want to play as sonic's friend's though? I feel like they're pretty much incompatible with the boost gameplay.
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Hey, the community manager for Sega Europe quit earlier in the month.
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>>171535385
I guess it's an easy enough mistake to make if you're an idiot.
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>>171536149
They only work in 2D, and they're just kinda annoying in general. They're better off as supporting characters who cheer Sonic om
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>>171536149
Shadow isn't. Blaze isn't.
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>>171536269
You're right, but I think people are generally referring to tails and knuckles.
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>>171536149
The Gens mods have proven that they can be fun in Boost. Amy, Blaze, Tails, Knuckles, etc.

>>171536226
We heard you the first time.
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>>171536436
How are Tails and Knuckles incompatible? That doesn't make sense. Tails made his debut as a Sonic clone, and overall his gameplay is pretty much Sonic's with the addition of Flight. The ability to Fly is meant to reinforce the idea of Speed, since it's what allows Tails to keep up with Sonic in the first place.

And Knuckles' gameplay began as/is pretty much Sonic's core with the Punching, Gliding, Climbing, and Digging ontop of it.

Tails and Knuckles can work perfectly in the Boost formula. The only reason people seem to not think so is because they think Tails and Knuckles are only suited for slower paced exploration or something.
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>>171536729
Literally every character can work with Boost so long as their gameplay is just Sonic's core with their abilities on top of it. That's how it worked in the Genesis days & it can work now.
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>>171535052
I don't see why people want them so badly in the games to be honest. SEGA barely uses the characters they have now, what makes them think they'll treat the Freedom Fighters any different? Not that I hate them or anything. Plus, they only said there will be one new character. If they were to use one of them, it would be Sally, who I'm honestly not a big fan of but whatever.
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>>171536151
Any reason why?
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>>171536729
>>171536921
First of all it wouldn't make sense to give them boost as part of their moveset. Second, if Tails had flight AND boost, he'd just play like Super Sonic in Generations where he skips all of the level. And nothing about the boost gameplay facilitates climbing walls or gliding either.

If you take away the boost, and give them their own redesigned levels...you basically just get Classic Sonic gameplay but in 3D and with those abilities.
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>>171537363
>First of all it wouldn't make sense to give them boost as part of their moveset.
Why? They're basically Sonic clones.
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>>171537548
Because it takes away from what makes Sonic special
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>>171537548
They WERE Sonic clones. Adding boost and the extreme speed that comes with it though creates serious problems for those abilities and how they play.
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I feel that I'm a little late on this. But here's a sketch I drew.
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>listening again to the Aaron interview after the panel
>asked about wisps
>"there's more than the speed wisp"
panic
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>>171537725
I hope he was joking
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>>171537713
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>>171537713
Also, I'd say this is the first thing I drew on this general.
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>>171537548
Giving them boost would be full retard. For one thing they aren't supposed to be as fast as sonic. They never were. The x button should give them some other ability.
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>“The Sonic the Hedgehog franchise has had its ups and downs. The original games, released for the Sega Genezez in the early 90s, have stood the test of time. But the series had a ROCKY START when transitioning to 3D. It seems most fans want Sonic to go back to its roots, but instead Sonic Team insists on chugging along with mediocre Sonic titles filled with overcomplicated plots, too many characters, and awful voice acting.

>I mean remember that one time Sonic kissed a human? What was Sega thinking? Were they trying to promote beastiality? Hopefully the new game won’t have the Werehog! Why is his name Eggman and not Robotnik?! That’s hokey, and old Sonic was better!”

>"Sonic Forces had to follow the beautiful return to the glory days that was Sonic Mania & sadly, it doesn't really measure up. For starters, all the things that's brought the series down over the years has returned from the voice acting, to Sonic's Shitty Friends, all the way to the story. From the first cutscene alone I got flashbacks to Sonic 06 & for a moment, I thought Sonic was gonna save an out of place looking human princess leading to a horribly done bestiality romance between the two!"

>"Sonic Forces was supposed to show Sonic fans that the franchise is capable of working in 3D but it just doesn't work. Edgy stories, terrible characters that no one cares about, & gameplay that doesn't match the fantastic gameplay the of the Genesis days or even Sonic Mania. This game is just another example that the blue hedgehog just can't work in 3D. But the music was nice, 3/10."
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>>171537914
Both were as fast as Sonic in the classic games.
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>>171538025
>in the classic games
Which boost games are not. It shouldn't be this hard for you to understand.
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>>171537363
Okay then, then just keep Boost exclusive to Sonic, & have the other characters keep their abilities.

>>171537996
I can already see this being IGN's review of Forces.
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>>171538124
>Okay then, then just keep Boost exclusive to Sonic, & have the other characters keep their abilities.
Or better yet, keep things as they are now, release it on PC, and let people mod in the other characters. Everyone wins
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>no google drive links for boom in the last 2 threads
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>>171537713
heh
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>>171538189
Be the change you want to see anon.
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>>171538073
You seem to be implying that it matters.

It's a video game, they can give the characters whatever abilities they want. All the characters were equally as fast in the Rivals games for instance. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with distinct boost playstyles for all three.
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>>171538167
Nah, the previous idea was a good one. Oh & you can make them optional so the Sonic-onlyfags can play the game through without having to play as anyone else.

>>171538189
Did a new episode even come out yesterday?
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>>171538406
>Nah, the previous idea was a good one. Oh & you can make them optional so the Sonic-onlyfags can play the game through without having to play as anyone else.
They'll just bungle the friends anyways, like they always do. Keep it Sonic only, and keep friends to mods. In the story they stay on the sidelines but hey most people don't replay the story so whatever
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>>171538391
>whatever abilities they want
Too bad it doesn't make sense for Tails or Knuckles to be able to boost at all, so it does matter.
>but muh Rivals
Guess what. It was plausible for each character in Rivals to be able to move at that speed. Tails and Knuckles simply aren't capable of boosting.
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>>171538391
>All the characters were equally as fast in the Rivals games for instance.

Rivals was nowhere near as fast as Unleashed.

You want Tails and Knuckles to go at the speed of sound. Which is fucking retarded and makes Sonic look boring.
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>>171538626
>You want Tails and Knuckles to go at the speed of sound. Which is fucking retarded and makes Sonic look boring.
It also makes him look incompetent and weak, and that's a shitty thing to do. No side character should be better than Sonic at anything.
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>>171538586
Well to be fair, in Forces. Sonic boosts thanks to the Wisps, so you can just do that with them.

>>171538482
Nah, I still like the old idea more, honestly.

>>171538708
Too late for that, anon.
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>>171538586
The only game where Sonic was somehow capable of boosting on his own was Generations. Every other time, including Forces, was due to external factors.

Tails has been studying Wisp energy and built himself a braclet that can gather energy for boost. Bam, done. Knuckles has been meditating with the Master Emerald and his newfound techniques let him gather energy for boost. Bam, done. You can handwave whatever explanation you want and it doesn't matter because it's a video game.
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>>171538708
>It also makes him look incompetent and weak
And what, Forces doesn't with Eggman winning for once?
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>>171538771
>Too late for that, anon.
Well they need to fix that. Sonic should be the best, he's the main character
>>171538810
That's fucking dumb
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>>171535052
>not realising Forces is the sequel to Chronicles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S96hsj34Wl4
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>>171538810
>The only game where Sonic was somehow capable of boosting on his own was Generations. Every other time, including Forces, was due to external factors.

And just what pray fucking tell gave him the ability to boost in Rush and Unleashed?

It has nothing to do with the assfucking Wisps. Wisps simply give Sonic energy to tap into his boosting powers. Rings do the same thing. As does killing enemies. It's not the same thing for other characters.
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>>171538920
Never said it didn't, and I think it' a shitty direction,. The only way I'll accept it is if Sonic went off somewhere or fell into a time portal and Eggman took advantage of that. Sonic should not be outright beaten by Eggman
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>>171538810
I guess he was just using the wisps to boost in Unleashed too, huh?

Both of those sound like retarded asspulls on top of not explaining how they manage to control the energy in order to boost at all.
>durr it's a video game who cares lol
Lots of people, one of which is me. Just because you're fine with retarded horseshit doesn't mean anyone else is.
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>>171538810
Holy shit kill yourself.
>throw out all logic! I WANNA FAP TO TAILS IN MY BIDEO GAYME!!
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>>171539029
God forbid things get shaken up for once, right?
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>>171539047
Thankfully Sega isn't appeasing retards like him and making the friends playable
>>171539116
So you want the main character to look like a retard and lose to someone he shouldn't lose to
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There was a Generations mod for Blaze where she was slower but had a higher jump.

There, same core gameplay with some differences.

Blaze uses her fire to boost, Shadow uses Chaos Whatever, Amy read it in a tarot card, Silver uses his psychokinesis, Espio uses a ninja technique, Big is a fucking meme, whatever.

Sonic is fast. Sonic is good at fast. He may even be the best at fast. His friends can do other things and use that to go fast too.

Sonic just goes really fast.

There, that's it everyone's happy. Even the shitposters who keep saying the same thing over and over.
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>>171538810
>The only game where Sonic was somehow capable of boosting on his own was Generations. Every other time, including Forces, was due to external factors.

>implying
>implying Sonic is the only character that can boost, and that hasn't already been proven in-game
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>>171538934
Well too bad, that's never changing. Get over it

Also it's funny people complain about other characters boosting not making any sense, as if they didn't have something similar in the Advance games.
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>>171539209
>Well too bad, that's never changing. Get over it
It's been different for a while now. They haven't been playable so they can't steal Sonic's thunder
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>>171539209
>as if they didn't have something similar in the Advance games
>if they all have a universal mechanic in one game then they should have it in every game
lol
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>>171539013
>>171539032
Gaia energy plus rings. Still not internal.

Not counting Rush because it's a 2D handheld game.

>Both of those sound like retarded asspulls on top of not explaining how they manage to control the energy in order to boost at all.
In half of the 3D boost games, Sonic gains this ability by voring space aliens. If you can't think of an explanation less stupid than that then just shut up.
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>>171539353
>Rush doesn't count because it ruins everything I say
Too bad. It still counts. Sonic gathering energy is internal and so is him processing it in order to actually boost. He is not reliant on the Wisps to boost at all and Dark Gaia energy certainly didn't have shit to do with boosting otherwise Sonic would have had nearly infinite energy to boost as Werehog where that very energy was enough to transform him.
No wonder you don't want logic in your video game because you're too stupid to understand it.
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>>171539353
>Gaia energy plus rings. Still not internal.

>Not counting Rush because it's a 2D handheld game.

It's official. You're either trolling or literally retarded.

>>171539201
Blaze can boost. Shadow can boost. Maybe even Silver can boost. But if EVERYONE can go at the speed of sound, then what's the goddamn point?
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Sonic a faker
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>>171539626
DESU none of the character should even come close to being as fast as Sonic.
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>>171539661
Sonic was never real!
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>>171539143
You love blowing shit out of proportion, and I'm pretty sure he got wrecked before Unleashed properly started so it wouldn't even be the first time he lost.
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>>171539285
>they can't steal Sonic's thunder

Yes. Sonic "lost to Dr. Eggman" The Hedgehog. What great thunder they're not stealing.
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>>171539517
>>171539626
Your headcanons about what """""should""""" and """""shouldn't""""" happen are irrelevant. You can make an argument that foxes and echidnas shouldn't be able to roll into balls either, or run as fast as Sonic. Pfft, like we're supposed to believe a fox can just spin his tail really fast to keep up. They never gave Knuckles an actual explanation for being able to run as fast. But that's because it doesn't matter. They're video games, and there is no actual rationale for not including other characters besides they simply don't feel like it. Saying a character can't work in a game is just admitting you have a stupid lack of creativity.
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>>171539626
Whatever the point between giving everyone the Spin Dash in the Genisis games was.

But to answer, Gameplay and Story segregation. Stupidly lazy, I know, but it works.
Besides, if it triggers you as hard as Tumblr, no one's saying the other characters have to boost at sound speed or whatever. Just have them play the same.

>>171539867
Yeah, what this guys saying.
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>>171539841
We don't know how he lost yet. Probably got sucked into a time portal or paradox or whatever so Eggman took over because his friends are not Sonic, so they can't beat Eggman. Sonic won't lose 1v1 to Eggman, it's just retarded to even consider that he could lose
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>>171539921
He lost to Eggman in his fucking Super form, that was how Unleashed started.

>but he tricked him

He's a villain, that's part of how he fights.

What an untouchable hero.
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>>171539921
>Sonic won't lose 1v1 to Eggman

Remember the intro to Unleashed? Where Egg trapped Super Sonic, sucked out the energy of the Chaos Emeralds, turned him into the Werehog & dropped him off to the Earth that he split apart. Sonic a shit.
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>>171540103
>>171540016
Yeah, and that was fucking stupid then too
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>>171539867
>following the rules of what is presented in the games is headcanon
Confirmed for shitposting.
Wanna know why they were able to keep up in the Genesis games? Do ya, little retard? Sonic wasn't at full speed.
>lack of creativity
>following the established rules of the universe is "a lack of creativity"
This is your last (You) from me, gaylord. Kill yourself ASAP.
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>>171540142
Nah, it just shows that Sonic ain't shit compared to based Eggman. Your blue rat a shit.
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>>171540252
No, Unleashed just had shit writing. Sonic shouldn't have needed help to win
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>>171540142
It kinda was, I won't. dispute that. But come, you gotta have a villain that's actually threatening.

Think of how many godly monsters Eggman frees that turn on him, wreck shit, and get their shit kicked in by Sonic. Think of how Eggman and Sonic are the only ones standing afterwards.

If anyone can, it's THE E.G.G.M.A.N.

>>171540152
Post a source or shut up.
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>>171539867
>>171539903
Alright then, fagboats, explain to me how flight would mesh at all with Modern's linear level design and wouldn't just play like Modern Super Sonic. Explain how gliding and climbing would mesh with it either.

Explain to me why there's any point in programming another character with basically the exact same moveset if it doesn't add literally anything to the gameplay. Tails in Sonic 3 was the easy mode. He could fly over obstacles and reach hidden goody areas. Knuckles was the hard mode and required more exploration and trickier platforming from the player. But there's literally, absolutely, 100% no fucking way to translate either of those things into boost.

Playing as Blaze in Generations when she's slightly slower but jumps a bit higher, whoopdefuckingdo. What's the point? Nothing about the gameplay is any different. The level layouts are still the same and I'm doing the same goddamn things Sonic was doing, but with Blaze. It's a waste of time.

There. I played your game and explained why adding Tails and Knuckles to boost gameplay literally just doesn't work even from a base gameplay perspective, ignoring the huge implications it has on the plot and lore. Such as Forces would never happen, because they wouldn't need Sonic to beat Eggman and Eggman would be horribly outmatched by basically everyone.
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>>171540328
You fucking first. Go ahead and prove that Dark Gaia energy is the reason he had the ability to boost. Go ahead and prove that the Wisps were the reason he had the ability to boost. Go ahead and explain exactly why the Rush games don't fucking count. If you want to bitch about my anecdotal shit then you'd better ante the fuck up unless you want to be dismissed as a hypocrite for not proving your assertions when you have burden of proof.
And here's the kicker. You fucking can't, so take your own advice and seal up your shithole.
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>>171540142
What about the time G.U.N. locked him in prison, and he would have been stuck there forever had Tails and Amy not broken into Prison Island? What about the various endings in Shadow where he killed Sonic and took over the planet? Or the time in 06 where Silver would have killed Sonic had Amy not interfered? Not to mention that Mephiles killed him in the very same game. There was also Eggman nearly ending Classic and Modern Sonic in Generations had it not been for their friends cheering them on, and the Deadly Six capturing Tails and nearly ending the life of everyone on Sonic's world in Lost World. Forces isn't the first time Sonic's been emasculated. It's just the first time there's been bleaker consequences than a slap on the wrist.
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>>171540282
Nah, just because your favorite character can barely compete to the E.G.G.M.A.N. doesn't mean the story is bad.

Also, it's hilarious just how angry people are getting over the idea of other characters being able to do things Sonic could.
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>>171514017
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>>171540417
And to add to this, the idea that "it's just a video game" and logic does not matter is retarded. You are essentially saying that there's no point of having the choice between playing as a Jedi, or a Rebel. That both of them should have the ability to use either a lightsaber or a gun, because it's just a game. The concept of balance and replayability doesn't exist to you.
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>>171540618
>Also, it's hilarious just how angry people are getting over the idea of other characters being able to do things Sonic could.
It's because doing that makes the main character look shitty in comparison, and that's bad writing
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The world was conquered by Eggman, so what was Sonic doing until then?
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>>171540417
Make stages less like Green Hill and more like Sky Sanctuary.

>Tails was the easy mode

Then that shouldn't be too hard to replicate, linear or not.

Knuckles I admit is harder. Gliding I could see, but climbing up walls? Stuck on that one.

The point was same gameplay, different characters.

Plot and lore in Sonic. Seriously?

>>171540519
I wasn't that anon, but I'll hold him to it as well. But don't be a hypocrite.
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>>171540729
It's been happening throughout the franchise's entire history. Cry somewhere else.

>>171540768
Getting his ass kicked by Eggman, clearly.
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>>171540729
Says who?
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>>171521775
Is that a bad thing?
Also do you have more?
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>>171540786
I have no proof of my statement because it's just an observation of events in the game. Tails can't keep up in speed in the manuals yet he does in-game and even then he gets tripped up by just about everything and has to fly back in. Pretty sure Knuckles is slightly slower and isn't able to jump as high either. Past the classic games, they are not even comparable in movement speed at all so me spouting some horseshit about it is about as relevant to conversation about boosting as him bringing them up to act like they are comparable in speed in modern games.
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>>171540878
Says basic logic. Spider Man would look like a shit hero if Mary Jane could do what he does, or Aunt May.
>>171540836
>It's been happening throughout the franchise's entire history.
Doesn't mean it's a good thing
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>>171541084
He'd have a badass wife and an even more badass aunt. Beats the shit out of what we're getting nowadays anyway.
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>>171540786
>Make stages less like Green Hill and more like Sky Sanctuary.

Sorry but that still doesn't work. It's still very, very linear. Sure there are multiple paths, but the density that Tails and Knuckles thrive in just isn't there. There abilities would add nothing. Tails being able to fly would absolutely break the game. He's easier yes, but combined with boost, he would be a cakewalk. Knuckles gliding is the same thing, he would actually make the game easier.

>The point was same gameplay, different characters.

How dense could you possibly be? If Blaze and Shadow had boost, ok, sure. Fire and Chaos powers complement the boost gameplay nicely and it makes perfect sense for them to be boosting because we've seen it before and being as fast as Sonic is integrated into their characters. Tails and Knuckles do not have either of these effects. You would have to completely reinvent their abilities and give them their own unique levels.
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>>171541164
But it'd make Spider Man look bad and render him pointless. It's a shitty idea, as is making Knuckles and Tails as fast or capable as Sonic
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>>171541084
Do you even know how many superheros live in the Marvel Earth?

>>171540994
>I have no proof

Then you're as bad as the guy who said Dark Gaia energy lets you boost and the Rush games don't count because 2D.

Don't whine about hypoccrisy and proceed to do just that.
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>>171541084
Miles Morales
Miguel O'Hara (Spider-Man 2099)
Venom
Scarlet Spider
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>>171541252
Not really, but it sounds like you want a gary stu for a hero and that's boring as fuck.

>>171541270
Didn't he have a clone or three that he managed to get along with as well?
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>>171541270
OH look, shitty redundant characters who should've died a long time ago
>>171541368
So a Gary Stu is a hero that's competent and doesn't job to people he shouldn't job to?
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>>171541256
>then you're just as bad
Not even close, shithead. My anecdotal statements mean nothing to the conversation. His do on top of him having massive burden of proof that you're completely ignoring while sucking his cock. If you have nothing better to do than have this holier than thou attitude when you aren't even a part of the conversation then you can take a long walk off a short cliff.
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>>171541393
I'm just saying. Even characters like Spider-Man and Batman have allies that are like them.
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>>171541208
Tails breaks the games in some Classic stages anyways. If anything, he's the only one who is truely the same as the Genesis games. Making platforms that are really high up is an easy solution anyways.

How do you even need to reinvent abilities? Sonic boosts with rings, boom, now Knuckles has boost with rings.

The real problem is why the fuck can everyone Spin Dash, but that's irrelevant.

>>171541437
How am I sucking his cuck? I'm basically saying your both trash at arguing.
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I want Sonic and his friends to gain Power Ranger Armors + Mechas based upon their respected Animal.

POWER RANGERS:SONIC FORCE
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>>171541545
Yeah, no. You're getting pissy over shit I said that doesn't matter even if I did have proof while he's fucking gone and has yet to prove anything he said or even follow up on his retardation. If this isn't bias then I'm a fucking spider. Fuck off, retard.
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>>171541393
>should never lose
>solves everyone's problems all the time because no one else
>everyone sucks his dick
It's pretty much what you're asking for.

>>171541504
And they've also gotten their ass kicked and they've bounced back from it no problem.

>>171541672
Spoiler that shit please.
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>>171541084
>Doesn't mean it's a good thing

If Sonic getting punked out like the rat he is is wrong, then I don't wanna be right.
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>>171541672
I feel like you've written a fanfic about it.

>>171541681
I'm getting prissy cause you complain about him doing one thing and proceed to do it.

Sorry for the bias, but he's gone so what else is gonna happen.

Fuck, the past half hour doesn't even matter does it?

Whatever.
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>>171541545
>Tails breaks the games in some Classic stages anyways.

He really doesn't, because he can only fly for a few seconds and he has weight, so it has a windup on top of that. It's only breaking the game if you become a master at it.

Give Tails boostflight, and suddenly he can cover a stupid amount of ground really really quickly. I'm getting tired of saying this, but look at how Modern Super Sonic plays. It would be the exact same thing. Take boost away from his flight though and you have an even worse problem where suddenly the gameplay's flow is completely ruined. You have a boosting Tails going at the speed of light, then a slowass flight for several seconds.

>>171541545
>How do you even need to reinvent abilities? Sonic boosts with rings, boom, now Knuckles has boost with rings.

What the fuck is wrong with you? I can't even tell if you're trolling. You know exactly what I mean when I say abilities: Knuckles's climbing and gliding.
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>>171515663
LIKE THE PROPHETS ONCE SAID

AND THE ASHES ARE ALL COLD NOW
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>>171541970
No I don't think I can type of good sentences to form a story suitable for it.

>>171541763
Spoiler what? Power Rangers?

I would like to see a Wolf Character get introduced in the games future. Either female or male. Enemy or ally.
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>>171542324
That deviant conversation with a blue board. Holy FUCK why couldn't you do her clothed? That was the only thing I was looking forward to in that. I'm actually fine with that idea if you can polish it.
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>>171542556
>with a stacked skeleton on a blue board
Goddammit, today's gonna be a long one.
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>>171543116
Dis I like
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>>171543116
Perfect
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>>171543116
Yoto pls
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Wait, were they giving these out at SXSW as well?
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Goodnight /sthg/

>>171543116
nice
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Bailey_(voice_actress)
This is Blaze's voice actress....
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>>171543116
the only good amy ship
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>>171544097
Sonic, I have something important to tell you.
ASS DANCE. ASS DANCE.
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>>171544132
Not really.
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>>171544328
It's one of two and the only good one.
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>>171544451
To each is their own. I personally don't ship it and probably never will.
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>>171544328
This. ShadAmy is a pretty shit ship, imo. That being said, I can't help but love Yoto's pics.
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>>171544646
>ShadAmy is a pretty shit ship
Better than SonAmy at least.
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>>171544756
It's all opinions, man. I personally prefer SonAmy to it, by a wide margin.
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>>171544876
SonAmy is not even an option for me. Makes no sense.
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>>171544983
Not him but it's been made clear that Sonic has some feelings for her and finds her attractive on at least some level, in a lot of official material.

Sonic just doesn't want to be tied down to a relationship so he ignores all of that and probably will for a long time.
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>>171544983
Like I said, it's all about opinions, senpai. I feel the same way about ShadAmy.
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Arguing about shipping.
And over here you'll see the autistic part of the community.
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>>171545156
Which does not mean that he thinks she is someone he would get into a relationship with. I have feelings for and find many females I know attractive on some level that I would not ever get into a relationship with.
>long time
More like forever. What free-roaming spirit wants to be tied down to an obsessed clingy girl? Might as well shackle his ass.
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>>171545231
Meant to add: >>171545156 Sonic's been shown to care for her, but it's a bit of a stretch to say he likes her like that.

>>171545250
No one's really arguing. Just people giving their opinions on ships.
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>>171545250
Shut up nerd
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>>171545369
Sonic and Amy aren't a ship since they're the canon love interest.
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>>171545250
Nobody is arguing here m8. Even if they were, like it or not romantic subplots have historically been a part of Sonic.

>>171545361
>What free-roaming spirit wants to be tied down to an obsessed clingy girl? Might as well shackle his ass.

You know she's 12, right? I had obsessed clingy crushes at that age too. Also, I know SEGA would never admit this, but assuming Sonic ever gets older and matures into adulthood, he's going to want more things other than going fast.
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>>171545469
Well, Amy likes Sonic in canon, but whether he likes her back romantically has yet to be shown. Personally as much as I like the ship, I think the two having a relationship like the one they have in the post-252!comics is preferable.

Though I wouldn't complain if they ever became a couple.
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>>171545603
>romantic subplots have historically been a part of Sonic.
And Shadow and Amy have never been one. Not even hinted at. Hence why it's autistic shipping faggottry.
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>>171545603
>You know she's 12, right? I had obsessed clingy crushes at that age too
And what exactly happened to those crushes after they grew up and matured?
>he's going to want more things other than going fast
Too bad he's perpetually 15 then. He would probably also look for a relationship that isn't completely one-sided.
>>171545680
>And Shadow and Amy have never been one
And that's just criminal.
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>>171545680
>autistic

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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>>171545680
I don't think he was arguing in favor of Shadamy, tho.
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>>171545801
>And what exactly happened to those crushes after they grew up and matured?

One of them was with a long-time childhood friend I stayed close to, and we did end up in a relationship for a couple years.

Also, the childhood friend becoming an item with the main character is an extremely common trope in cartoons and anime. It's not hard to imagine Sonic would do the same.
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>>171545408
> You'll never give Sonic the Funny Kiss
It hurts a bit
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>>171546052
My point is that most of them went away and those that were stubborn enough to continue likely puttered out when they actually got into a relationship and experienced who that person really is rather than the image they idolized. It's a type of love most comparable to a wet firework with a long fuse. It's gonna burn for a long time and only rarely result in anything and that anything is short-lived and dies off quickly.
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>>171546062
Thanks for proving how BlazeXSonic will never work.
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>>171546325
BlazeXSilver would never work either. He's a hedgehog too you idiot.
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Sonic Adventure 1 is still a fun game and you nerds can't sway my opinion.

Gamecube port sucks though.
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>>171546692
Most people find it fun. It's still objectively flawed.
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>>171546692
I didn't see anybody say it wasn't.
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>>171546313
Except that's in the real world, & Sonic is far from realistic. But it's a pointless argument, since the two are gonna be in their chase until the end of time. Good, desu.
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>>171542046
NO MORE BULLETS

AND THE EMBERS ARE DEAD
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>>171546590
>Massively implying I like that ship also.
Top kek, well you tried anon.
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>>171546978
>Except that's in the real world, & Sonic is far from realistic
Some things don't change. Basic psychology and behavior patterns are two of those things. It's why I don't ship them. It's a waste of time as it likely wouldn't last even if it did happen.
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>>171547008
AND THE ASHES
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>>171547248
Look at this makes me feel something.
HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS dead.
Cause of a blue rat's mistakes.
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>>171547226
Yeah but once again, that's putting real world shit in Sonic.
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>>171547835
Like gravity or the concept of love?
You don't seem to understand the transition from nonfiction to fiction. If something is not shown or explained to be different in a fictional universe, it is the same as the real world.
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>>171547995
>gif
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What if the 3rd gameplay style in Forces is Chao Garden
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>>171548532
I'd scream.
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>>171548532
>shocked alien
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>>171548098
Got any webm sites where I can edit the length?
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>>171548548
>>171548548
A scream like when you first lost your virginity or scream like when you step on a lego...?
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>>171543116
Oh Yoto, you rustle them jimmies just right.
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>>171548687
>A scream like when you first lost your virginity

Implying anybody around here knows what that's like.
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>>171548769
It's not nice to project.
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>>171548687
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>>171547974
Only reason why it hasn't been "shown or explained to be different," is because they don't need to, as Sonic & Amy are always gonna have their dynamic. This is a pretty silly discussion, desu.

>>171548532
I wouldn't mind that, honestly.
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>>171549152
You're right, but you also know I'm right if Sonic ever escaped his perpetual life as a teenager.
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>>171549248
Again, it's a dumb discussion because that'll never happen. Any ideas on what could or would happen is merely fanfiction. That's why I don't try to say "Sonic & Amy's relationship would go exactly like this," because it all comes down to what your headcanon is.
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>>171549391
A dumb discussion for a dumb ship. Fitting.
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>>171549436
Yeah, but shipping itself is dumb. No ship is less dumb than the other. I just happen to like one of those dumb ships.
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> select the phrases that sound incorrect captcha
Nani?
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>>171526612
How old/unexpirienced are you?
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>>171550339
He's right tho.
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So tomorrow, or later today, we'll get to watch the Sonic stream with guests and we'll see if Mega Drive is coming out.
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>>171550417
Every girl is a slut, haven't you red Brothers Karamazov?
%%not like a bad thing%%
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Hey is there any SEGA/Sonic the Hedgehog themed Acceseries in Rocket League?

I would figure there would be some. I mean. Oddworld has some. So does Wurms
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>>171550808
Don't think so. It'd be pretty cool if they did, though.
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>>171511563
>need to write an essay on a new-person forum explaining why you like Sonic and how you'll contribute to the community
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>mfw get Sonic Heroes PC running in 1080p 60FPS
Holy fuck the colors feel so right.
Alright, this has been long overdue. All emblems and A-ranks before Mania comes out. Nothing can stop me when I've got the REAL SUPER POWER OF TEAMWORK.
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>>171550417
She's 12, you heathen

pls no derail
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Why is the Tails music in SA2 so fucking perfect?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UftIE73Blg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzXgFSsq_zM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5GDWcPYUN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fowUw2TBIEw

Eggman's levels are much better, but these tracks are incredible, especially Rumbling HWY and On the Edge.
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>>171544097
Probably not anymore. She might've been replaced like with Espio's VA (Troy Baker) if she's busy with AAA work now
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>>171551806
uh
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>>171551646
Baker got replaced with the latest Olympics title, but she didn't.

Also, Laura is married to Knuckles's VA too. That might help keep her for the miniscule role of Blaze.
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>>171551973
Strangely neither of them took their spouse's last name.
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>>171551973
Does this mean KnucklesxBlaze is the true ship?

I don't think I've ever seen any shipping art of the two. It's kind of a crack one, but I could see it working in way. They're both guardians of precious stones, they're not quite good with social interaction and a bit of loner sometimes
Fuck, I don't want to be dragged into this shipping stuff. Bringing back bad memories
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>>171552171
They're pretty big in the voice acting world so maybe they decided not to in order to keep their names recognisable or something.
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>>171552261
It's so cliche though. Pic related.
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>>171552261
Knuckles gets it on by himself.
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>>171552630
How'd this series get shelved?
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N e w
B o o m
E p i s o d e
U p l o a d e d
W h e e e e e e n
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>>171537914
>they aren't supposed to be as fast as sonic.
Except being able to fly is the sole reason Tails was given the ability to Fly. Tails is supposed to be comparable to Sonic in speed. HIS GAMEPLAY IN ADVENTURE WAS BASED AROUND RACING SONIC. Saying that Tails shouldn't be able to boost is retarded, because Tails is, at his core, half a Sonic clone and half an Eggman clone.

Even Knuckles is supposed to be nearly as fast as Sonic. In games like Fighters and Adventure and stuff, he shares the Spinning abilities with Sonic and Tails.

Dude, look at Sonic Riders. The difference between Speed-type, Fly-type, and Power-type is what the difference between Sonic, Tails and Knuckles is. Tails' flight allows him to take shortcuts, and Knuckles' power allows him to break through barriers and find new routes, all while moving at supersonic speed.

Tails and Knuckles SHOULD be able to Boost.
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>>171555270
>except being able to fly
Darn it, that was a typo. I meant being as fast as Sonic
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>>171555270
>Even Knuckles is supposed to be nearly as fast as Sonic
As proved by what?
>implying Tails' story in SA1 matters at all to this
>IMPLYING that Riders means jack shit at all when it comes to actual character foot speed
Neither one is anywhere near as fast as Sonic, especially in the Modern games.
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>>171555270
I'm getting tired of this "THE GENESIS GAMES WERE PERFECT AND NEED TO BE PRESERVED EXACTLY, THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY BE IMPROVED" meme.

The idea that Tails should play identical to Sonic just because he did originally is absurd. If you're going to have multiple playable characters, it's a pretty basic, tried-and-true design decision to make them play and feel vastly different to each other. It's objectively better to play as someone who has a unique playstyle with their own strengths and weaknesses rather than just being Sonic but with a couple extra moves.
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>>171555589
>If you're going to have multiple playable characters, it's a pretty basic, tried-and-true design decision to make them play and feel vastly different to each other.
Meanwhile, Blaze and Shadow both prove you're full of shit.
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>>171555656
If anything, Blaze proves him right. Shadow was made to play 1:1 on purpose.
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>>171555656
If you've ever played Sonic Rush, you'd understand that Blaze isn't a Sonic clone in the slightest.

Also, as someone else said, Shadow is meant to be a 1:1 version of Sonic. That's why he got his own spinoff game. And even then, he could still stand improvement.
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>>171555589
You're not all that wrong, but the reason people suggest to have them play like Sonic but with their abilities, is because some people fly into an autistic rage whenever the mere idea of them not playing exactly like Sonic is brought up. And the other group of people sees it to be the idea that requires the least amount of work on Sonic Team's behalf.

>>171555656
Yeah, but you know that if SEGA ever allows other playable characters back in a 3D Sonic game, it just won't be Sonic, Blaze & Shadow.
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>>171555589
Tails is SUPPOSED to share Sonic's abilities. Tails is SUPPOSED to be able to keep up with Sonic's speed. Tails' flight is SUPPOSED to be what allows him to keep up with Sonic. He is supposed to be able to take shortcuts in the air. His flight isn't just meant for finding new goofy areas or whatever, it's for taking shortcuts to get through zone quicker. Tails is slightly slower than Sonic. SLIGHTLY. That difference in speed is made up for with his flight allowing him to take shortcuts. It's how his SA1 gameplay was built. Tails is canonically nearly as fast as Sonic. It's a trait that's mentioned in Sonic 2's japanese manual, the basis for his gameplay in SA1, and even brought up in a cutscene in Rivals 2.

Saying that they are nowhere near as fast as Sonic in the modern games is an outright lie because 1) Sonic is the only playable character nowadays so we don't even see the other characters' speeds for comparison, and 2) The times that we have seen these characters playable or whatever, they ARE as fast as Sonic. Like, Tails in Colors' cutscenes, he flies as fast as Sonic, and when he was brainwashed he ran as fast as Sonic to block him from getting to Eggman. In Black Knight, Knuckles(' arthurian counterpart) runs as fast as Sonic. Sonic Rivals 1&2 are racing games, meaning every character there has the potential to compete with Sonic's speed somehow. Sonic Dash also straight up gives everyone Boosting.
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>>171555715
>>171555860
Blaze does not play or feel vastly different from Sonic. She's the same gameplay except she can jump higher, she's a bit slower, and she can run through fire. That's about it. She's otherwise mechanically identical even though she can't even roll into a ball because her spinning serves the same mechanical purpose.

>>171555895
>Yeah, but you know that if SEGA ever allows other playable characters back in a 3D Sonic game, it just won't be Sonic, Blaze & Shadow.
Who the fuck cares? It's easy to make anyone else "like Sonic but slightly different", you just have a complete lack of imagination.
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>>171555956
I think you're forgetting the fact that in Sonic Advance 2, everyone did have the boost. But in that game, the boost wasn't a limited resource and was earned through running fast for an extended period of time.

In Modern games, the boost IS a limited resource and is activated instantly. It's Sonic's unique ability. It's what sets him apart from the other characters. It's Sonic's version of Tails's flight and Knuckles's gliding. You just don't notice it because you're boosting constantly. When Sonic is running without the boost, Tails CAN keep up with him.

>>171556002
>She's the same gameplay except she can jump higher, she's a bit slower, and she can run through fire.
>she can't even roll into a ball because her spinning serves the same mechanical purpose.

And that's still vastly more interesting than Tails being Sonic but he can fly,and Knuckles being Sonic but he can glide/climb, making both of them superior by default. She can spin, but because she can't roll, she can't use momentum-based physics like Sonic can. She therefore does feel significantly different.

Also, did you fuckers seriously come back here to troll AGAIN after we dropped this argument several hours ago?
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>>171555956
>Tails is SUPPOSED to share Sonic's abilities
Maybe back when he was the gimped co-op partner character. He is no longer that and as such is not required to 1:1 to Sonic. The same thing applies to Knuckles.
>canonically nearly as fast as Sonic
Something that is not a factor past the Genesis games. Stop acting like shit from the older games is required to be continued into newer games.
>Colors
Oh boy a light run sure shows that Tails is able to keep up with Sonic's top speed in the slightest.
>LW
Oh boy retarded shitty slapstick sure should be taken entirely seriously and an example of a character's ability.
These are some nice mental gymnastics and denial but when you can stop being an autistic faggot, you'll see that there's no reason for them to boost and anything you say holds absolutely no ground. Better luck next time.
>>171556002
>Blaze does not play or feel vastly different from Sonic.
Which is my point. She brings nothing to the Rush games but a few small changes and is wasted potential. 06 rectified this for the most part but 06 was also a travesty so who cares.
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>>171556303
>Also, did you fuckers seriously come back here to troll AGAIN after we dropped this argument several hours ago?

You know they did. How autistic do you have to be to start up the same argument with the same points again, hours after they already did it?
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>>171556303
>She can spin, but because she can't roll, she can't use momentum-based physics like Sonic can. She therefore does feel significantly different.
Sonic Rush and momentum do not belong in the same sentence.

>Also, did you fuckers seriously come back here to troll AGAIN after we dropped this argument several hours ago?
Man, I remember the days when defending Adventure-style game design was considered trolling.

>>171556321
>She brings nothing to the Rush games but a few small changes and is wasted potential.
Except playing similarly to Sonic is one of the main reasons why people took to her so easily. The people who like playing six different games are in the minority, and the shitty gameplay is one of the primary reasons why "Sonic's shitty friends" is a thing.

>06 rectified this for the most part
Funny enough, it didn't. The only thing Blaze did differently from Sonic in 06 was her spin attack and lack of Mach Speed sections, she otherwise played identically. And she was literally the best part of the game because she was basically Sonic without those shitty Mach Speed sections.
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>>171556539
It's also the main reason she essentially doesn't need to exist. There's really not that much she brings to the game with how similar she plays. The only thing she brings is her personality and character and that does not require gameplay in order to experience. I wouldn't really have it any other way but saying it's not wasted potential is lying.
>identically
She was far more combat based and had a moveset based around "blazing" through enemies and keeping up high speed movement while doing so. She was the best part of the game because she was a better Sonic, who, other than Blaze, was the best character in the game outside of mach segments.
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>>171556539
You don't get it.

Nobody is arguing that we should be playing a different game with each character. We just don't want every character to play identically to Sonic.

Look at Amy in Sonic Advance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrzqjg9TN40

She still jumps, runs and collects rings to reach the end of the stage as fast as possible, but there's a catch. She can't jump and curl in a ball, forcing her to use her hammer to attack. This forces you to approach situations in different ways, but it also gave her an advantage over Sonic where if you hit a spring with the hammer, her speed and distance are increased ten-fold. She plays different and has her own strengths and weaknesses, without sacrificing the core gameplay. That's how you do it.
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>>171556539
>Sonic Rush and momentum do not belong in the same sentence.

Obviously you've never played the games, because if you did, you'd notice Advance and Rush still carry the same momentum gameplay the Genesis games did. The physics aren't identical, but they're there. If you roll down a ramp, you will gain speed.
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>>171556708
Games are entertainment, the only thing a game "needs" is whatever's fun to play, and Blaze is a lot more fun to play than if she walked slowly and used buggy psychokinesis, or if she was a slow beat-em-up, or a slow clunky shooter, in the same game as Sonic's fast fun boost gameplay. Your ideas regarding gameplay are generally the complete opposite of what's considered conductive to fun and good games.

>>171556815
You're basically agree with me while claiming to disagree. Amy is the same general gameplay style as Sonic, different enough that she's not a literally clone, but similar enough that you still feel like you're playing the same game and not "Sonic 6-in-1 Value Pack!"

>>171556918
Advance sure, but Rush's momentum is absolutely gimped because the physics were based around boosting.
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The hypocrisy right now...

Tails, Knuckles, Cream&Cheese, and Blaze have all played identically to Sonic in their debut games. Tails, Knuckles and Cream&Cheese specifically appeared in Advance 2, which featured the Boost Mode, which absolutely solidifies that they are capable of moving faster than the speed of sound. Tails and Cream have been said to be nearly as fast as Sonic, and Knuckles is Sonic's Rival.

Anyways, my point is that Blaze is in the same boat as Tails, Knuckles, and Cream, and her ability to Boost is just as valid as theirs, as each of these characters are supposed to be canonically nearly as fast as Sonic. It shouldn't be that hard. Taking Tails for instance, there's no reason he couldn't have the Boost, Drift, Quick-Step, etc, and replace certain moves with his Flight, Tail Swipe, and Bombs.
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Hold on... I just woke up and you're still going back and firth with this shit?
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>>171557195
>Games are entertainment, the only thing a game "needs" is whatever's fun to play

Yep, you're the same guy as >>171539867 and came back here for literally no reason other than to start shit.

>>171557195
>You're basically agree with me while claiming to disagree.

I disagree with the idea that Tails and Knuckles should boost because Sonic can boost. If the boost was like it is in Advance 2, then I would agree. But the boost is activated instantly and immediately puts you at top speed, and as far as game feel and logic go (something that even the most novice game designer will tell you is important) that's a very "Sonic" thing and should be what sets him apart from everyone else.

The boost system as it stands now is inherently flawed however and you should be asking yourself how to make the boost feel natural for everyone (as in Advance 2) rather than give everyone the same style of boost that Sonic has right now.
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>>171557303
No. Everyone stopped for a few hours, until some retards decided to come back & start this shit up again. And people are STILL responding to these morons, instead of just ignoring them.
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>>171557195
More like this cowshit you're putting in my mouth isn't conductive to fun and good games. Me wanting something that isn't just Sonic with slight alterations does not default to me wanting something shitty, retard. You simply cannot fathom that different != bad.
>>171557283
The boost mode in the advance games is not the same thing as the boost in Colors or Gens. Stop making out like they are the same thing at all. I also see nothing that states that it breaks the sound barrier.
>as each of these characters are supposed to be canonically nearly as fast as Sonic
[citation needed]
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>>171557425
>that's a very "Sonic" thing and should be what sets him apart from everyone else.

I don't understand this logic at all. The fact that Blaze boosts in her debut game, which is also the Boost gameplay's debut, proves that the Boost IS NOT what separates Sonic from everyone else. If it was, Blaze wouldn't have the Boost.

Look, Tails' ability is to FLY. Meaning, instantaneously accelerating past the speed of sound is well within his range of abilities, because he already has supersonic speed by default.

>>171557534
I went to sleep before the topic began, and woke up an hour ago to find it as I scrolled down.
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>>171520238
This
All-Star Racing Transformed.

Haven't played it in a longass time.
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>>171557675
Then please, stop responding & let this dumb argument die again.
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>>171557675
>because he already has supersonic speed by default
[citation needed]
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>>171557425
The only thing I'm arguing is that there's no reason why Tails and Knuckles shouldn't be able to boost if a) Sonic Team wants to make a boost game and b) Sonic Team wants it to have multiple playable characters. I'm not saying they have to, I'm not even saying I like boost, just that it's preferable than having Sonic play one game and everyone else play an entirely different game.

>>171557556
If you're making multiple different games then you're dedicating less time on each type of game which results in all of them being worse, whereas if your characters are all the same game with mild variations then it's better. I don't understand why basic game design is so hard for you to fathom. Inconsistent gameplay is almost always criticized for good reason.
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>>171557675
>The fact that Blaze boosts in her debut game, which is also the Boost gameplay's debut, proves that the Boost IS NOT what separates Sonic from everyone else.

Giving other characters their own version of Sonic's boost shouldn't be done for literally everyone though. It makes sense for Shadow because he's literally 1:1 Sonic. It makes sense for Blaze since she's essentially Sonic from another dimension.

Also, as I already stated, the Boost fucking sucks and needs to be changed in the first place. Stop acting like it's an element that needs to be preserved forever.
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>>171557764
>which results in all of them being worse
Not necessarily.
Nigger, the only one that doesn't understand basic game design is you. If you are going to differentiate a character then there should be more than just minor alterations if possible. Sonic Team is full of shit and I already said I wouldn't have it any other way but having alternate gameplay is great at breaking up the monotony. Shit that's shallow and annoying like the sailing in Rush Adventure is an example of fucking that up. Any of the alternate gameplay in a game like Crash 2, barring the jetpack, is an example of it being done well. And before you bring up some bullshit of the alternate gameplay styles being criticized in Crash, that was with 3 when they became far more intrusive. You're so conditioned by Sonic into believing different = bad that it makes me believe you play literally no other games.
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>>171557813
>It makes sense for Blaze since she's essentially Sonic from another dimension.

That's not why she's capable of Boosting. Her abilities themselves, aside from using the Sol Emeralds, aren't really a reflection of Sonic's own abilities at all. Blaze is as similar to Sonic as Tails and Knuckles are, ability-wise.

Tails and Knuckles having the Boost do make sense. As the Sidekick and the Rival, sharing Sonic's core abilities is a necessity. Especially for Tails. Tails' core ability is being able to keep up with Sonic, which takes the form of his flight. Being able to keep up with Sonic is a part of the reason he was created, as Sonic 2 was meant to have a 2-player mode with a new character to be Sonic's sidekick and play identical to him, thus Sonic 2 was programmed specifically to have "two Sonics".

Tails was always meant to be a Flying Sonic, and Knuckles was always meant to be Sonic's core gameplay with a lowered jump height, Punching and breaking through barriers, Gliding, Climbing, and Digging. If Tails and Knuckles were never supposed to share Sonic's speed, they wouldn't be playable. Tails would only appear in Sky Chase Zone to pilot the Tornado, and Knuckles would only be seen in the cutscenes where he comes in to hinder your progress with his traps, and Spin Dashing and Running super fast wouldn't exist in these animations or his rival battle.
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>>171558121
>their gameplay styles in the classic games are similar so that means they have all the same abilities as Sonic in the lore, even though we're talking about the Modern games, which is likely a completely separate dimension considering that both Classic and Modern Sonic are 15
You really could just admit you have autism and leave it at that instead of wasting time typing out all that shit.
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...now that I think about it... the basis for this argument seems to be that some people think the Classic games were "slow".
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>>171558074
This entire back-and-forth is just us going "no you!" over and over, so all I'm going to say is that when I play a game, I typically end up playing one game, and suddenly having to play a completely different game is usually frustrating. This usually applies to vehicle segments in non-vehicle games but can apply elsewhere. And it's absolutely more than possible, but in my personal experience the norm, that multiple characters can be differentiated well enough while still playing like they're in the same game.
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>>171558231
>Ignoring Sonic Adventure and the Advance games
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Has anybody ever considered owning or actually owned a hedgehog because of Sonic? RL hogs are just so darn cute.
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>>171558121
>Being able to keep up with Sonic is a part of the reason he was created, as Sonic 2 was meant to have a 2-player mode with a new character to be Sonic's sidekick and play identical to him, thus Sonic 2 was programmed specifically to have "two Sonics".

And because that clearly didn't work in practice we aren't using Sonic 2 mechanics anymore. You're stuck on this idea that the Genesis games' design philosophy needs to be preserved completely, ignoring the places where they are objectively flawed.

>"Tails was ALWAYS meant to be this"
>"Knuckles was ALWAYS meant to be this"

And Amy was always meant to be a Minnie Mouse clone, a damsel in distress who couldn't do any of the stuff Sonic can. But oh look, pic related, we can do better. Your argument is so deeply rooted in fallacy that it's just fascinating.

We live in the year 2017, not 1994.
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Tails feeling like Super Sonic with the Boost is perfect, now that I think about it. Flying over most of the level at light-speed should be how his gameplay still, except a tiny bit slower than Sonic's movement.
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>>171558349
>and suddenly having to play a completely different game is usually frustrating
Sounds like a personal problem. If a game is made well, a change in gameplay will be fluid and easy to adapt to. You can't act like doing that is objectively bad when any other major platformer does it. Mario, DKC, and Crash included.
>>171558365
Same shit. You're taking gameplay elements and using them as evidence for an argument that is rooted in lore. They play similar in those games because 1. it would take far longer to program and design and 2. people would shit their pants over having something different after the Adventure games. The point is it means nothing. Tails is fast but he certainly doesn't break the sound barrier. Knuckles is definitely not comparable to Sonic in speed. It's simple logic on that one at least.
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>>171558456
>>171558596
Y'all done responding to him? Please tell me y'all done.
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>>171558596
>You can't act like doing that is objectively bad when any other major platformer does it.
Most games limit that to a level-specific gimmick or minigame. At no point do you not feel like you're playing a completely different game whenever you switch characters.

If anything Mario and DKC prove you wrong because they both give examples of using multiple characters that have their own unique abilities and variation while still feeling like it's the same game.
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>>171558456
>And Amy was always meant to be a Minnie Mouse clone, a damsel in distress who couldn't do any of the stuff Sonic can

No, Amy was just meant to be Sonic's Love Interest, being head over heels for and chasing after him, while he doesn't really reflect the same feelings towards her (visibly, at least). Ability-wise, she's supposed to be interested in mystic things, which is still reflected in the modern era.

>And because that clearly didn't work in practice we aren't using Sonic 2 mechanics anymore. You're stuck on this idea that the Genesis games' design philosophy needs to be preserved completely, ignoring the places where they are objectively flawed.

I honestly don't know what you are talking about here. My point is, Tails and Knuckles are supposed to "canonically" share some of Sonic's abilities, both Classic and Modern. I don't understand why many seem to think that Tails and Knuckles should be stuck in the Genesis Era gameplay while only Shadow and Blaze stick around in the Modern Era gameplay, when all 4 characters are supposed to be supersonic fast in some way. If Tails can be identical to Sonic in Sonic 2, he can be identical to Sonic in Sonic Unleashed.
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>>171558641
I'm just ignoring this shit till these faggots are done.
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>>171558774
And aside from the more extreme characters in the Adventure games, Sonic does the same thing. You're just so traumatized by Big, Amy, and non-Sonic modes in the Adventure games that anything more than barely noticeable alterations to the main gameplay style is too much for your fragile mind to handle. There is seriously nothing that special about Blaze in Rush. There should have been more to differentiate her and Sonic than what existed.
>>171558803
They all know how to spindash and that's it.
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>>171558803
>Tails and Knuckles are supposed to "canonically" share some of Sonic's abilities,

Canonically, Tails can keep up with Sonic when he's not boosting. And both Tails and Knuckles can both spindash. That's where the canonical similarities end. They can't do the lightspeed dash, they can't use the homing attack, they can't even use the spindash past Sonic 3, and they can't fucking boost. And it is literally, absolutely, objectively more interesting to have them play fundamentally differently to Sonic rather than give them those abilities, and it makes no fucking sense for them to have them anyway, "video game lol" be damned.
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>>171558978
You're applying a train of thought that is the complete opposite of what I'm arguing for and at this point you're just arguing with straw and I have no reason to continue.

From the time I entered the conversation, my argument has been that it's both possible and preferable that multiple characters be similar with variations. Not that they should be exact clones, but they should at least feel like it's the same game. If that means giving Tails and Knuckles the ability to boost so they can be in the boost game then that's preferable to having Sonic boost, Knuckles do treasure hunting, and Tails shooting things.
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>>171559137
You say this yet you argue AGAINST Blaze and Sonic being differentiated more in Rush, which would allow for actual variety and thus a better game.
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Sonic Unleashed completely redefined Sonic's core gameplay from before. I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to think Tails and Knuckles can't fit the redefined version of Sonic's gameplay style. If they can Spin Dash in the Classic style, they can Boost in the Modern style. If Tails can follow behind Sonic in the Classic games, mimmicking his every action flawlessly, he can do the same in the Modern games. Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Cream&Cheese, and Blaze are all supposed to move at speeds either nearly approaching or outright rivaling Sonic's speed, and they've all debuted in games where their gameplay was identical to Sonic's in some way.

It's not that hard. Have them all share the Boost, Drift, Quick-Step, and whatever else, and have their own unique abilities replace the Homing Attack, Stomp, and such, like Tails' Flying, Knuckles' barrier-breaking punches, Shadow's Chaos Control, Blaze's fiery hovery skills. It can work perfectly.
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>>171559317
>If they can Spin Dash in the Classic style, they can Boost in the Modern style
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This is probably the only franchise in the world where meme makers oppose their own headcanon to developers and call them stupid for not making the choices they screech about.

Every new game NEEDS shitty friends to sell, because they allow novelty. See all the fucking Mario recolors to take the closest example. They just need to be non-invasive and must not disturb the core cast.

Boost is what redeemed the Sonic franchise, and Colors and Gens are the only recent Sonic titles you can mention without being mocked by casuals. This is fucking 2017. You think the core gamer audience hypes about Mania and care about "Genesis games"? The average gamer is sick of playing/seeing Green Hill Zone for the 1000th time. In the gaming world, Sonic IS THE SHITTY FRIEND between colorful Nintendo licenses he's not even part of and gritty shooter games. It's the matter of being neither childish nor adult over again and thus unable to cater to these potential buyer bases. But no, Sonic must be AoStH stupid, colorful, and a Mario knock-off even though Sonic Taiwan Galaxy bombed hard even though it's not a bad game. There is no fucking market for this.

Forces tries openly to solve this problem. It's more or less the perfect solution, taking everything that worked the last years. It takes the "cool" approach again without overdoing it (mindlessly serious), add friends and novelty without translating it into shitty gameplay, recycles the elements of the three last not-terrible Sonic games, Boost, Wisps and Classic Sonic.

But huuuuu shitty friends this is not only Sonic Clowneggman and Metal Sonic huuuu there are fucking wisps and boost2win hurr chilidog memes ruined the videogames

You keep talking about pure boring Sonic gaming, and arguing about stories and canon. Your perfect game would be so bland and boring no one would ever criticize it, or play it at all. Seriously, this is the most autistic bubble of the Internet. I'm not even sure the r34 Shadow forums are that delusional.
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ENOUGH

SHUT
THE
FUCK
[b]UP[/b]
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>>171559239
I argued against Blaze feeling like a completely different game. You want to differentiate her more while still keeping the 2D boost platforming, that's good. You want to do something stupid like making her a beat-em-up character or shooter character or whatever in the same game that has Sonic do fun 2D boost platforming, that's bad.
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>>171559584
Which one do you fucking think I've been talking about?
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>>171559623
I could ask you the same question, which probably means we should both realize we're actually agreeing with each other.
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Look guys, how about we all calm down & post some cute?
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>>171559705
Holy shit, I've been agreeing the whole time, you thick headed fucker. You've been disagreeing with yourself this entire time. If you're wondering why either of is confused, that's exactly why.
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Seriously, shut up.

Just fucking shut up.
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This is the reason why Sonic becomes the punching bag of gaming.
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>this thread
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IGN was right

There are no good Sonic games.
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>>171538964
In your dreams, you freaky little gnome!
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>>171560762
Get out of here, Crash
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Post paws
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Beat 'em up Sonic Boom Game please.
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>>171561194

why not just a regular Sonic beat em up
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>>171561396
Boom is more focused onto fast paced combat than platforming.
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>>171561736

but it's also more boring than the main universe in terms of, well, everything
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>>171562160
Only because RoL was a disappointment. In theory, being a separate universe means they could do all sorts of crazy shit that they couldn't do in the main universe.
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>>171540983
No, it's great.
Yes, but I'm at work now
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>>171562356

in theory

but in reality there's not much to work with in Boom as the show is content with being SoL shenanigans in some random village
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>>171562743
Why would a game be limited to what the show's doing? That makes no sense.
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>>171563249
>Blaze the Car
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>>171563347
Right? Typos are the highest form of comedy.
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>>171550656
I can't wait for the stream.
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>>171563405
I know it's a cheap shot, and I'm sorry, but now I'm imagining Blaze.

As a car.

Drawfags, pls.
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Looks like the tables have turned.

I'm sorry /meg/
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https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/03/new-sonic-25th-anniversary-artwork-at-castle-galleries/

Neato

More Boom is more appreciated.
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>>171563980
Oh lord
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>>171563587
Don't look at me, I'm at work.
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>>171563587
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Shh, Eggman is sleeping!
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>>171545408
>But what about my "funny" kiss?
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>>171564871
t-thanks
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>>171558540
I spent an unhealthy amount of time in the Chao garden making her jump
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>>171561003
We need more Sonic/Metal Slug
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So drawfags, where did you get your start? I'm getting bored without mania and I've always been interested in art, but I'm scared because it seems hard as fuck.

advice?
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>>171565191
Draw something.

Then look at both art you like and real life.

Then draw again.

Now practice basic shapes. Now practice three dimensional figures. Now practice putting these concepts together to create complex ideas like feet and hands and bodies. Now take what you drew, and mentally turn it as if you've tilted a can of soup. Now practice that. Now keep practicing various angles until you have a strong grasp on three dimensional space translated into lineart. Now study posture, line of action, and anatomy. Now go back and relearn the basics.

It's just a matter of time, persistence, and identifying what you suck at. You won't be as good as someone like Yoto in four months, but you'll improve over time.
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>>171564871
>flat tyres
Oh you cheeky cunt
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>>171565659
ITAFJJR?
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>>171558540
> Big jerking it at the end
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>>171565191
LOOMIS

But no seriously, go read the Beginner thread in /ic/.
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>>171565659
Oh god, that's golden
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I need art of Amy taking off her training weights and destroying the Egg Fleet ala Super Sonic
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>>171565738
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>>171558540
>"you're such a creeeeep"
wierd line, coming from her.
Was she flustered? Or did the Jap translation not play out well?
Anyone know what was originally said?
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>>171564871
I think I recognize that style
pls do more comics
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>>171566647

I'll get to that right after I quit being a lazy shit.
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>>171566085
This or I use this website for practice and lessons
http://drawabox.com/
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>>171558540
Lord, I forgot how butt ugly the Sa2 models were.
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>>171565191
Get Michael Hampton book on the internet. Read it. Do all the exercizes. Read it again. Congrats, you became better than 99,8% of /ic/ in less than two months.
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>>171564907
Damn, that is one handsome egg.
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>>171568193
>exercizes
Shit no edit button
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>>171568206
That better not be Second Life
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>>171568206
Can't be a world-conquering mad scientist with bad oral hygiene!

>>171568301
The Sims 3
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>>171568391
Ok thanks for confirming, I was worried.
>>
Is abt dead? His Twitter is weird
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>>171568760
Looks fine to me.
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>>171568863
I just meant dead to us
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>>171568391
The doctor is in.
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>>171563980
>Implying ME:A isn't worse
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>>171563980
mass effect andromeda is genuinly horrible though
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>>171569221
Robotnik waits patiently as his faithful minion Grounder prepares brunch.
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>>171564871
>>171565659
Top fucking kek, well done drawfag
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>>171569109
Oh, I don't know. I think the last we saw him was Christmas or so before the comic problems happened.

We all know if he showed up anons would want to know about the comic situation from him and shit. I also assume he's trying to get work in general right now, so maybe he's just busy.
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>>171569638
Filled with copious amounts of evil ham, Eggman takes off in his Egg mobile to terrorize the citizens of Sunset Valley
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>>171570906
The townspeople are but helpless sheep in the face of Robotnik's technological superiority.
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>>171566647
Seconding this. Retard Sally makes me smile every time.
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>>171568760
He posted something to Tumblr a few days ago. He's fine.
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>>171571517
Now that's just plain rude!
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>>171569109
It's not the first time he's been away for a while. Just be patient and he'll most likely come back once he gets the time to.
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>>171571517
Later in the evening, Ivo attends a party hosted by his illustrious (albeit outdated) E-100 series robots.
Musical guest appearance: some Egg Pawns.
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These arguments are reminding me why I'm thankful Sonic is the only playable character
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>>171572246
Unfortunately, there was an undercover police officer attending who made Ivo cut his visit short.

Creating a distraction involving an exploding stereo and some innocent bystanders, Ivo makes a run for his hovercraft and dashes into the night sky.
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>>171565191
If you can't draw now don't bother
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>>171565191
Learn how to draw and angle simple shapes. Especially when it comes to curves and foreshortening.

Learn how to deconstruct things you want to draw into simple shapes.
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>>171573468
Shit advice.
Carl Barks made his first comic in his 40s.

>>171573671
Good advice, wish more people bothered to learn perspective.
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>>171573215
Eggman returns to his lair after a long day of hedgehog-free shenanigans. As the doctor holds a monopoly on the town's major businesses and badniks slowly replacing its workforce, he cannot help but feel a sense of pride for his accomplishments.

Indeed, he even allows his underlings all the fun they want, and won't so much as bat an eye to their occasional lollygagging.
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>>171573448
>Rouge

No
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>just a few more hours until Jun stream
>hyped as all shit
>no mentions of it whatsoever on official channels
pls no suspend
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>>171574075
According to /ic/, don't bother past 30. Also if you're pro you're also shit. You're shit before ten years exp, and you're shit anyway. Why do the chans exist.

>>171565191
Might look harder but don't hesitate to start to draw realistic stuff + perspective. It's the easiest and the only correct way to learn. Also draw lots of cubes and spheres.
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>>171574470
And off to bed again. Life is pretty good for Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik.
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>>171574470
What do robots even do for fun?
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>>171571578
Not him but I need to draw more retard Sally as well.
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>>171576101
Stupid radioactive rat pee.
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>>171576175
>Nic

Literally the most unloved character to show up 5+ times. What a waste.
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>>171577165
If I can find a fan design of her that isn't just Nack + tits, I'll commission some art of her.
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>>171577792
Does this count?
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>>171577792
You'd have to change everything about her, at which point she's not Nic anymore.
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>>171578040
>Recolor existing Nic design to neon pink.
>Add belts + an ugly hair tuft.

That's even worse.
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>>171578040
Ew, god no.

>>171578116
This is the best I've seen so far.
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>>171578537
>Removing Fang's snout to make her cuter.
Lame.

The smartest thing you could do is make her virtually identical to Nack (since women not wearing tops or bottoms was A-OK before the reboot). Have her take jobs as "Fang the Sniper" and sometimes go in together on real tough bounties, making Nic-as-herself more of a secret.
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>>171575039
When is the steam anyway
>>
Comicslist updated their releases for this week and next week. No sign of Mega Drive.
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They already fixed Nic by retconning her out of existence.
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>>171579814
That just confirms it. Comic's cancelled
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To the anon (if he's around) who critiqued my lack of creative angles in my work. Just wanted to say, thanks. I know it's far from perfect and I've got a shit ton more ways to go, but I did attempt some new angles with everyone's favourite future hog

It was also fun giving him a new expression on the right
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>>171580041
might as well kill myself
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>>171580609
Calling dibs on some of your PC parts then.
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>>171571578
Retard Sally? I wanna see.
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>>171580517
Not the anon that complained, but I'm really glad to see you start exploring a bit more, and I look forward to seeing your art improve

>>171580754
Here ya go
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>>171580754
>>171580932
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>>171580754
>>171581115
And this is all I have, hopefully someone else can pick up the slack and post the hot dog comic
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>>171580517
Not that anon.

Right reminds me of Tracey Yardleys work. It looks great.
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Would Tails be better if he wasn't a genius? Maybe a mechanic or engineer, but not an absolute techno-wiz and literally smarter than Eggman?
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>>171581335
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>>171581401
That really means a lot to me.

I must admit, Most of the sonic archie stuff I read frequently a few years ago had Yardley's work, so maybe it's in the back of my mind when I drew sonic characters. I love making sonic characters as expressive as possible
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>>171581435
He'd be better if he was just Sonic's kid sidekick who looked up to him. Not a genius, not an engineer, just a sidekick
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>>171581435
He'd be better off as Amy's sexual tension reliever desu senpai
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>>171580517
Thanks for trying more things, I had the same complaint as the anon who spoke up. Keep it up! Also thanks to said anon, he expressed my thoughts much better than I could.
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>>171581915
I prefer him to be Rouge's femboy sex slave
>>
Hey, was going back through the comics recently, and it looks like SU #74 is missing. Anyone happen to have it on hand, or remember the link to the other site that's hosting them?
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>>171581115
The drowning countdown gets me every time
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>>171582401
Welp, meant to say that it's missing from the archive in the OP
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>Nakamura tweets a trailer of Sonic forces will be sometime this summer or autumn

gee whiz, what could he possibly mean

why the fuck would you even say "a trailer is coming in like 4 months"? What kind of fucking news is that? If it was something like next month, sure, awesome, but it's basically saying "YEAH THERE'S A TRAILER COMING OUT BEFORE THE GAME COMES OUT"
>>
/sthg/ what Sonic games will you play to countdown to Sonic Mania?

Perhaps the entire list of those in Gamegear +MegaDrives? DreamCast Era? Modern?
Fan-Games?

Would anyone even like a NetPlay of Sonic Shuffle?
>>
>>171582560
SEGA really needs to quit this announcement-of-an-announcement shit.
>>
>>171582560
It means "don't expect any more info at E3"
>>
>>171582560
God, please don't let it be another news drought. Please.
>>
>>171582767
>don't expect anymore info at E3
Dude, there's no fucking away they won't show more shit at E3. Sega is retarded, but that is just plain insanity

My money is on Microsofts conference, seeing as sega has been working really close with microsoft lately.
>>
>>171543960
anyone? I'm trying to find all the stuff they gave out at the panel
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>>171582987
Just like they showed shit at the last 2 E3.
...oh wait.
>>
>>171583168

>2016
Skipped because they wanted to announce shit at the party.
>2015
Fire and Ice
>>
>>171583168
The difference is the Sonic party was a month away, no point in it. This year there's no events to reveal more shit.
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>>171582987
Sega never really shows Sonic stuff during others' conferences though. Even when they had Sonic Nintendo exclusives.
>>
>>171582401
>>171582520
Spark of Life, part 4.
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Sonic-Universe/Issue-74?id=21742
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>>171583370
You also have to remember that it was 6 years ago the last time there was a multiplat Sonic game to even show. Sega has changed a lot in 6 years, especially with aaron involved, I can only imagine he's at least trying to push for SOMETHING at e3.
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>>171583427
Thanks anon, really appreciate it
>>
Anyone got that Sonic the Hedgehog tweet where its a Christmas Decoration cutout of Classic Sonic (From the Archie MegaDrive) where he has his hands outward and making a small disapproving face?

Its a really fresh meme but I can't seem to find it.
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>>171584061
Don't have the tweet, but you can have the Tumblr post.

http://sonicthehedgehog.tumblr.com/post/154084201568/its-time-to-decorate
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>>171583338
How do you know they won't have any events this year?
>>
>>171516905
I approve of this can of worms.
>>
>>171584256
Thank you. I am going to print many and cut them out then plaster them all over Town.
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>>171584637
Because there's no real significant reason to have an event?
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>>171525834
Oh yeah baby.
>>
I want to host a Sonic play-a-thon featuring all the Sonic games. Raising money for a good cause.
But I don't think I have the personality to actually attract folks to it.
>>
>>171585103
You could use it to raise money for autism awareness like how Seseme Street is creating an autism character in a month
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Look at this underwater balloon, fuggg
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>>171585376
How about for children in hospitals who are gravely ill that need funding to survive?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faf9hMAqCfs&t=0s

>Sega leaking Forces' vocal theme

Absolutely shameful.

So this is making fun of those shitty "Sonic music WITH LYRICS xDD" videos, right?
>>
>>171585757
How about just taking the money for yourself outright
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>>171585719
>underwater balloon
>>
>>171586012
Because I feel there is no need to get money from people that can be better off using it themselves then to waste it on me.
Side's I don't want to game for profit I just want to provide entertainment (without mic) to folks and try to attempt every Special stage in Sonic 3 and Knuckles backwards.
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>>171585719
>underwater balloon
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>>171585719
underwater balloon
>>
https://youtu.be/W0Wc6N6rwOY
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>>171585719
I'd let her sting me.
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>>171584975
I disagree. The game's releases should be enough. Plus, with all the social media movement and all the conventions Sonic has been present in lately, they should be able to get a good amount of attendants.
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>>171586224
>Because I feel there is no need to get money from people that can be better off using it themselves then to waste it on me.
Anon, that's not a healthy way to think.
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>>171585719
>underwater balloon
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>>171574436
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
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>>171586580
Neither is this. I seen Speedrunners (male) turning into Trans just to get pity $. I don't want none on that going to me for pittance on my concious. If it is to go anywhere. It should be towards charity. No single cent should be going to me just because I *stream*.
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>>171544756
>>171544876
Shadamy is the greatest ship.
>>
https://youtu.be/Gex_j_bfOt0

GET A LOAD OF THIS
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>>171550716
>EVERYONE is a slut.
FTFY
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>>171586872
Don't get angry over that image or pictures like that.

For when they fade into obscurity like all others, no one will remember their name. But you, the anon who raised money for charity, he will be remembered through his actions. His money will go to the treatment of a sick child that will live and recover from the treatment anon helped fund.

This woman will blow her money on shoes and other frivolous things, while you have done something truly great.
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>>171579024
>her
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>>171551056
Which emulator?
Also Tell me the schematic of how you did it.

Though I am not going to be playing Sonic Heroes anymore this year.
>>
ded thread
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>>171586937
If you say so. To me, it isn't.

>>171587382
If we archive before a new thread is made, would that be the end of /sthg/?
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>>171587463
>If we archive before a new thread is made, would that be the end of /sthg/?
Can only hope.
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Uh guys..the thread is sinking.
>>
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>>171586872
This picture triggers me. Hasn't it already been posted a couple threads back though?
>>
>page 9
>>
Jason Griffiths last roles for Sonic https://youtu.be/b8xsmfmDNDo
>>
NEW THREAD
>>171588269
>>171588269
>>171588269
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>>171588337
BOO
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>page 10
HERE WE GO BUDDY
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>>171588558
HERE WE GO
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>>171583581
he's just social media though, he has nothing to do with stuff like E3

Sega Europe handles E3
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>>171515634
A BeSeen chatroom back in like 1997 or something called "TheSonicFoundation."
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