/fog/ - Fallout General

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>>171496474
New robot type still in prototype stages.

Need input on shocker vs stun.

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Kind of in a catch-22 situation with FPS, vsync, and screen-tearing right now.

Borderless windowed I can't seem to get any form of vsync to work properly with. So with uncapped FPS, my game runs like it's on crack. I'm zipping around like a madman when in small interiors and it breaks some of the AI-guided animations (like reading an in-game monitor).

Full screen, my AMD driver handling vsync, the game runs like a slug plus awful microstutter.

Using ENB to handle vsync gives me miserable screen-tearing even if I lower my FPS cap down to like 30.

I'm just plain stumped about what to do about this. Last install I had zero issues with screen tearing, suddenly this time I'm unable to make it go away.

>>171495234
it's true, but the mod for player characters having separate bodies than other people isn't out yet right?

I could use the ck to edit individuals though, right? I'll look up how to do that if it's possible.

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>>171496617
Stunner.

>>171496617
>>171496804
Use the default protectron claw, it's cheapest and works with the arms already.

Whoops, turns out even once you're friendly with Greygarden you can kill the bots there. Found out by accident as Supervisor Greene wandered in front of a VATS shot while defending the place from muties.

>>171496462
>is the reason and not "FEV did it".
FEV doing it never really made sense

1. We know from pre-war reports, as well as post war mutations like super mutants, that everything FEV infects becomes sterile unless it reproduces asexually. And, as we can see from all post-war critters, they can in fact reproduce sexually.

2. All FEV research was stated in Fallout 1 to have been moved to Mariposa before the war. Which makes there being any left at West-Tek highly unlikely

3. Even if there was some FEV left at West-Tek, it is literally impossible for FEV to have spread all across southern California, let alone the rest of the U.S., to infect and cause all the ghouls and mutant animals we see. Not only is West-Tek not under a jet stream nexus(like what The Enclave planed to use in their airborne FEV attack in Fallout 2, the amount of liquid FEV needed to cover any significant area would have been more then the facility itself could have held had the entire thing been filled with FEV from floor to ceiling.

4. FEV doing it is fundamentally pointless because Fallout has ALWAYS been designed around the idea of alternate reality 1950's pulp fiction SCIENCE! and not real logic, making there no real need for FEV to explain mutations, as 1950's pulp SCIENCE! radiation can do just that

5. Saying FEV was the cuase just opens up a plot hole in Fallout 1 which states that FEV itself is immune to being altered by exposure to radiation, making the whole "airborne FEV was mutated by radiation and inoculated the post-war humans against the full FEV" thing impossible.

the only person on the original Fallout team that really supported the airborne FEV thing was Chris Taylor, who wanted a "logical underpinning" for everything in the game, whereas Tim Cain and everyone else was like "radiation!"

Avellone first was in Taylor's camp, but then someone pointed out how dumb that idea was, and he switched

Fallout 3/NV/4 all take the word of Cain and Avellone over that of Taylor.

>>171496618
Windows/the DWM should handle vsync in borderless window mode. And usually does so without tearing. Just set your desktop to run at 60 Hz, and everything should be fine.

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What's the female body replacer most people/mods use for new vegas?

Also recommend me some lewd/cute outfit mods

>>171497174

The chinese aimed its nukes directly over the FEV installations and any Enclave retated area

>>171497294
type 3 has the most support

type 6 is the best but all the armors are revealing

>>171497198

That's the thing: I am running at 60hz. Shit's still tearing right up along a pretty strict line, about a third of the way down the screen from the top. I've tried it on both monitors I have. For some reason Windows isn't handling it on its own. I even tried activating Aero because I heard it automatically forces vsync in Win7, but nothing changed in borderless windowed. Still torn.

I've been blowing up google looking for an explanation, but none of the solutions I've found have helped. Strangest dang thing.

>>171497551
>The chinese aimed its nukes directly over the FEV installations
Which still wouldn't have been able to blast it into the air enough for it to cover California, let alone the rest of America.

>and any Enclave retated area
As far as we know, and based on what Avellone said in the bibles, the Enclave were not involved in the FEV testing going on at West-Tek or Mariposa before the war.

Someone who was part of the Enclave may have, but the Enclave, as an organization, weren't directing it like they were with the Vault program.

>>171497746

Disabling ENB definitely fixes the tearing, I just tried it again, but goddamn I'm running around like a spaz in some of these tiny interiors. I guess I'll have to just deal with it.

New to modding, new vegas specifically.

Most mod descriptions say just to place the esp and esm files in the data folder but nearly every download comes with folders of a whole bunch of other shit, is this source code stuff I shouldn't worry about or am I not installing correctly?

>>171497294
I like T6M myself, a little skinny but still has good hips and legs (unlike T3 trash with chicken legs but still somehow wide shoulders). Only complaint with T6M is there aren't any conversion for pre-war casual dresses and the like. There is atleast a Vera's Dress conversion which is good, also plenty of raider-based slutwear (I am partial to the "Raider Barbie Dress" which is a net/see-through Vera's Dress with various raider accessories).

>>171497569
>type 6 is the best but all the armors are revealing
Most of the armors have mods to make them more modest. The only one that doesn't is the straight basic Leather Armor, which has a covered midriff option, but unfortunately has no option to cover the wide-cut cleavage of the jacket, which sucks when talking to old lady Caravan merchants. So I use vanilla Leather, but the metal, combat, and reinforced armors I all use T6M, and they aren't slutwear (or have a non-slutwear variant).

On LL there is also a T6 release where the author cleaned up the neck vertices on most T6&M models to help the neckseam. That, with a good skin texture, and the sweaty skin normalmap, probably makes the best looking female humans for FO3/NV.

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Post your home /fog/ !

Mine is very much WIP, its a temporary thing before i will build my own cozy bunker. After that it will go to my follower/NPC.
Second story is a shared gym/rec room/bedroom.

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is Fallout:Ressurection any good?

http://resurrection.cz/en/
Seems like a hell of autism was put into it

>>171498385
Most F3NV mods have loose files, they go in their corresponding directories in the Data folder. You usually do need put these in place for the mod to work. The only exception to that is when a mod has packed it's resources in a BSA file, then you just have the ESM, ESP, and BSA files in the root Data directory.

If the zip/rar/7z file has a layout like:
>blah.esp
>/meshes/
>/textures/
>/sounds/
Or similar, you need to extra all of it to your game's /Data/ folder.

>>171498891
oh bugger

well at least I haven't installed many mods yet, I'll just go back through them

>>171496474
Mod repository working for anyone else?

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how many star bottlecaps do i need to collect until shit kicks off

>>171499663
50

Is it even possible to have stable 60 fps downtown and around diamond city?

>>171499772
stop using a toaster, turn most shit down to medium since high and ultra high don't effect much of anything except godrays, and even then, low medium and high godrays look exactly the same, and only ultra high looks better.

>>171498453
what skin textures would you recommend? Particularly ones that aren't incredibly taxing on performance

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Behold! The Vault-Tec super recycler!

This baby can process all the scrap you pull in from the wasteland at record speed in a compact package, an efficient and powerful core of any Vault's manufacturing capability!

Be the envy of the surface world with your ability to re-purpose any junk they have to offer before creating high priced finished goods.

Order today!

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>>171497746
Sucks to be you, then. That should not happen. As in: That's technically not possible.

It is possible to disable vsync for the DWM, but it requires enough deliberate actions that you would remember doing it.

There might be something wrong with your Windows install or your GPU driver.

>>171498453
I'd love to use T6M, but I am lazy and everything, and everybody supports T3. So, I go with that.

>>171498727
I have yet to turn Home Plate into a real home. Or even change the lights to go with my new lighting mod. I found a terminal with a microphone for Cait, but that's all I changed since the last screenshot. Still not sure if your posts are bait, or not

>>171499772
Yes, even with a lowly 1070. The only place that still causes trouble on a decent computer is Far Harbl.

how do i enjoy this game coming off of New Vegas and STALKER CoM

the quests are dogshit and survival is tedious

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>>171496474
Rate this

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>>171500332
soviet bloc/10

>>171500332
Tropico/10

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>>171500076
Would my cpu have anything to do with it?

>>171500076
lol Something turned my phone around. The typewriter was the wrong way around, too. But I noticed it before taking the screenshot.

>>171500332
cyka/blyat

>>171500261
You can't, because it's shit. Play Fallout 1 and 2 if you want to see more of the setting of New Vegas (albeit less developed in 1's case). Play STALKER again if you want survival.

Quick, what state will Fallout 5 take place and what faction will be present ?

http://www.springhole.net/writing_roleplaying_randomators/random-us-state.htm

>>171500530
Yes, but your problem seems to be the RAM. See if you can get it to run in dual channel mode and at a decent speed.

Is there a comprehensive, complete and detailed list of recommended mods for Dust? I know the description on the Nexus has a few mods listed, but those are only the ones that the creator has used/seen, and it's quite underwhelming.

>>171499894
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34702/?
for the normal maps and sk files

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55174/?

for the diffuse maps

>>171500692
i already played fo1 and 2
is fo1.5 worth playing

>>171500708
Utah, the Brotherhood of Steel, Jackie Chan!

>>171500963
>the story is about Jackie Chan protecting a baby which blood could cure FEV
I'd buy it.

>>171500076
>Still not sure if your posts are bait, or not

Why would it be ? I carved out for myself a nice cozy building after scrapping S Hills down to every last item.
Need to add a shitload of detail tho, it looks crude as fuck.

>>171500708
Florida - Georgia. BoS.

>>171500708
Fallout 5 will likely be set in Charleston South Carolina, feature some sort of confederacy organization, and the return of Maxson's BoS as part of their expansion along the coast.

>>171501529
Because your stuff looks tailor made to trigger certain people here.

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>>171501401
Who would win in a fight, The Master's Army or Jackie Chan with a folding ladder and a priceless vase?

>>171500708
Alaska.
Probably nothing and no one. Wouldn't the Chinese, in their Commie Red Rage hit Alaska the hardest after being repelled successfully? Would make an interesting experience though, less as a Bethesda-RPG and more as a Dust/Frost survival experience. I kind of want them to change direction though to be honest. Rather than making another game set in a state/geographical location, why not fleshout a smaller scale area, a city-state perhaps? Ronto is obviously one such city they could choose.

>>171501825
Depends on whether the vase is form the Ming or form the Tang dynasty.

>>171501997
Well, People complain about vast wastelands of nothing.

Why not a small island like Hawaii?

>>171501825
I'd give it to the army. Jackie with a ladder is strong but he needs a baby and a skyscraper to unleash his full power.

>>171502164
>Hawaii
I smell a hatch in the jungle.

>>171499968
A jarhead a few weeks out of a vault being able to invent and construct a contraption like that makes you wonder why after 200 years people are still living in literal garbage.

>>171502164
Hawaii would be interesting. Maybe with pilotable vertibirds, boats and the such to travel from island to island? You just know they'd put huge fucking sea monsters in it, Atlantis-type areas and Republic of Dave-esque military dictatorships built atop oil platforms.

>>171502596
>Maybe with pilotable vertibirds, boats and the such to travel from island to island?
Fuck that noise.

Derivable vehicles in games like GTA, Witcher, and other open world games are just an excuse for developers to pad out the game's with large expanses of nothing so they can boast about map size.

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Any idea why my Diamond City guards are running around naked?
I installed like 200 mods in one go

Also how do you start Far Harbor? I just saved Nick and we're about to break into Kellogg's house

>>171503049
>Any idea why my Diamond City guards are running around naked?
Mods


>Also how do you start Far Harbor? I just saved Nick and we're about to break into Kellogg's house
After the BoS arrive you will get a radio signal from Nick's assistant telling you to come meet her.

though you can just go to the asian people's house in the top right corner of the map whenevr you want

>>171497790
seeing how the chinese had spies and operands all over the US Government ass, they probably discovered it, though they never found the Oil rig.

>>171500708
The Rotten Apple

the log on the Prydwen pretty much detailed how NY is nowadays and the game had a LOT of NY related easter eggs on it

NY in Fallout would be a perfect John Carpenter's paradise

Its Closer to the Minuteman area of influence, the Brotherhood, and its probably one of the main places where some NCR/Followers Expedition would visit for more technology

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>>171498727
>>171500332
Your concrete squares are great.

My concrete square is coming along too. Put potted ferns everywhere and lots of flags and paintings. Some rugs. Working on privacy dividers for the bed area now.

>>171502964
Well how else would the player move from island to island? Bethesda wouldn't just set the whole game on the Big Island.

>>171502549
I just pretend that my character has nothing to do with the stuff I build. (He is an officer, not a construction worker.) And that some of the stuff has been there since before he arrived at the scene.

Sure, I made the workshop at Greygarden. But the robots could not have maintained themselves for 200 years without a decent workshop. So it must have been there before my character ever met them. Sure, I moved the beds and build the new houses at The Slog. And I send all my Ghoul settlers there. But why would some random normie suddenly start building houses for a bunch of Ghouls? They decided to invite more people, who then build their own houses, because the increasing economic stability of the Commonwealth allowed them to expand their farming and trading operations.

>>171503539
>Your concrete squares are great.
Well technically it's >>171500332 not mine, it's from russian vg

>>171503539
>be a random dude trying to make a living
>go to a new settlement you hear about
>pitch in by farming
>have to see some ugly sign the faggot owner put up about their girlfriend every morning when i wake up and every night
feels bad desu

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>>171503539
>privacy dividers for the bed area

Meet your new best friends.

>>171503049
Update the armor keywords community resource.

This same thing happened to me.

See that holstered pistol he's wearing on his hip? It's having an item slot conflict with his outfit, you likely are using an older version of the keyword mod than the armorsmith extended is designed to use.

I found a settlement station while back at the airport went back to see if i could unlock it, but then i found out it's part of a fancy quest line for the brotherhood.

Gay.

>>171503710
I say something similar.

The PCs involvement in constructing the settlements is similar to the player's involvement in an RTS. You the player are directing everything personally but 'you' are really an abstraction of all the various commanders and individuals involved.

When 'you' are building settlements it's more fair to say that your character helping that settlement deal with its problems and using your influence to foster trade between settlements is leading to the people living there improving and expanding.

>>171503506

For those asking
heres the fully detailed NY in fo4

>You know, before getting shipped to the Commonwealth, I thought Elder Lyons still had some good points The Brotherhood in the Capitol Wasteland, they were about helping. But this assignment, it's opened my eyes. On the flight here, we passed city after city. Buildings taller than I've ever seen. Some that nearly clipped the Prydwen. And who uses them now? Mutants. Freaks. Seeing all that destruction, tens of millions dead, brought on by technology run amok, it made it so clear. Elder Maxson is right. The wasteland needs to be cleansed. And we're the ones to do it.

and the prydwen passed though Manhattan En-Route to Boston

>>171504429
Too bad you can't use it after killing brotherhood of gays.

>>171503635
>Bethesda wouldn't just set the whole game on the Big Island.
Yes they would.

>>171503506
>and its probably one of the main places where some NCR/Followers Expedition would visit for more technology
the NCr hasn't made it to the Midwest, let alone NYC

>>171504947
No they wouldn't.

All the others would be DLC

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>>171501997
I'm not sure how the fuck you could do it but if you could deliver non-numerical Fallout games in episodes it'd be the sickest shit in the world

you could play as
>a western tribal, try to defend your people against Caesar's Legion
>remnants of the US armored forces in 2077 post-war China, doing whatever you can to survive and keep fighting the war
>an influential figure in the Capital Wasteland in the years following the Great War, when V87 Super Mutants ("Greens") first start appearing on the surface
>a vault dweller leaving your vault for the first time, discover that the world has moved on without you and realize your people are expendable
>a soldier of the Enclave that has been routed out of Navarro with no choice but to head east
>a Desert Ranger (pre-NCR unification) trying to keep your homeland safe
>a soldier of the first-generation Brotherhood of Steel, try to bring order to your fallen country
>one of America's first ghouls in the post-apocalyptic wasteland, and all the trouble that comes with it
>a no-name that wakes up on the moon after being abducted by the Enclave

literally an infinite amount of cool shit you could do
naturally it'd be a far departure from the standard series, but if you weren't a completely shit company you could easily pull it off while keeping the classic Fallout feeling

I had the most fucked up dream last night /fog/

Someone had made a mod that added every single gun from Enter the Gungeon to Fallout 4.

I don't know what's more sad, that that mod would never happen, or that I had a fucking deam about Fo4 mods

>>171504947

NCR/Followers

even if isn't the NCR after 50 years since new vegas, it would be the Followers, which would be interesting since we would see a small Followers/BoS conflict all over again

>>171505308
>would be the Followers,
this doesn't make sense either as we know that they haven't expanded further then the Mojave to the east, or wyoming to the north, due to the Legion killing all the Followers who enter his realm in fear of them exposing his lie.

>>171504689
I acknowledge this aspect, too. My character has a big influence on the goings on in the Commonwealth. Just not on this level. His role is more comparable to that of a medieval king.

>>171504947
They wouldn't anon. They need a gimmick, something to pull in more attention to the game. They already put a bunch of features in Fallout 4 that are probably here to stay, settlements, weapon customization, segmented armour, etc.
>>171505129
The genre might have to be shifted I feel. Maybe back to the original games genre, the Cavalier Oblique perspective, with the Turn-based combat and so on.

>>171506194
I doubt boating would be the gimmick since Bethesda has been consistently against derivable vehicles because they make the map too small, and they don't want to pad it out with lots of nothing like GTA and Witcher did.

If they did include boats in a Hawaii game, it would be like vertibirds or the boat ride in Fallout 4, automated so it can't fuck up, or at least fuck up as much.

>>171499894
Since T6M uses the same UV map as T3, whatever skin texture you like out of the bunch. I think I use BOG Hi-rez version, with the Sweaty Skin normal/specular map.

>>171506375
Either way, It'd be pretty cool. I'd want vehicles that could be piloted/sailed so you could have engaging sea battles with the inevitable Kraken Impersonators and pirates they'll have in game, or dive below for pre-war wreckages.

>>171505551

Isnt 50 fucking years after FoNV enough to make them travel to the east?

>>171506375
>they don't want to pad it out with lots of nothing like GTA and Witcher did.
That's dumb.

>>171506954
It took the NCR over a century to go from California to fucking Las Vegas, which is literally just a hundred or so miles away.

In 50 years, the NCR would just be breaking into Kansas, with long range scouts at best.

Most of the next 50 years would be spent on them trying to fully secure the mojave region, and moving into the lands once occupied by the Legion fighting off legion remnants, insane tribes, and raider gangs, that would form after the Legion's fall.

In 50 years, they might have taking Phoenix and Tuscon, but little else.

Especially given all their water and food problems.

>>171507007
>it's dumb to not want to have a shitty empty game world like GTa/Witcher
Not really, its a fucking good thing.

>>171504150
Wait really or are you joking?

I'm a huge russiaboo, got to go there on a civil service trip a couple years ago and I love it ever since. If there's an actual russian /fog/ I want to go.

>>171504207
When you tell her that you love her, she does a sort of "What? me? why would you love someone like me?" sort of speech, so going around and saying "I'm dating her, and she's great!" and being really excited and exuberant about your relationship would be special to her, because she seemed to expect you not to love "someone like her" as she put it. This is a real thing for people irl.

>>171504240
I don't know what that is. I'm just putting up sheets on poles as doorways and little alcoves for each bed+desk.

>>171507260
Anon, look at Just Cause 2 or Far Cry. The little bits of emptiness make exploration all the more enjoyable, you don't just stumble on interesting locations every 100m, nor do you see the next from where you stand. And there's still fast travel if you want to skip.

>Mr. House, why does the Assaultron have a pair of big tits?

>>171507405
Both of those games are as unenjoyable as possible, and that sort of mindless filler only ruins exploration by turning most of the game's playtime into a whole lot of nothing.

>>171507281
>If there's an actual russian /fog/ I want to go
2[space]ch[dot]hk/vg/res/21475569.html

>>171508013
wow this is so cool

>their nv and 4 people get along
I'm jealous

So, at which point in Automatron will I start to get assblasted by murderbots? I'm guessing its as soon as I meet Ada, but I'm not sure.

>>171507141
>It took the NCR over a century to go from California to fucking Las Vegas, which is literally just a hundred or so miles away.

Today, you spend more time at the airport than on the plane. A hundred years ago, it would have been a three day trip. Two hundreds years ago, it would have been at least a week.

>>171507281
Those objects are the prime group-select "controllers" for objects with snapping points. The pillar even allows you to sink things into the ground at certain places. (As do other sinkable objects.)

Place the object or objects, like a wooden wall, you want to put in a place where they wont fit, on their own far away from any other objects. Plop one of these three fellows as close to them as possible. Position the cursor over your new friend and HOLD the select button. Experience the magic.

Carpets are also great. They allow you to completely ignore the collision of an object, if you properly place it on the carpet and select the carpet normally, but that only works for objects without snapping points.

>>171508858
As soon as her introduction scene finishes. You don't even have to interact with Ada. All that matters is that the cell is loaded when the last enemy dies.

>>171509241
>Today, you spend more time at the airport than on the plane. A hundred years ago, it would have been a three day trip. Two hundreds years ago, it would have been at least a week.
this argument ignores that the NCR already has trains, working cars, and vertibirds, in their arsenal.

They are already moving as fast as possible as technology allows them to.

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Is there a worse voice acted character?

>>171509357
It's not an argument. Just an observation.

>>171509440
whoever voices motor runner

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>>171509440

I firmly believe any Nexus modder could read his script better. He was fucking miserable on every delivery

>>171509440
I always though that captured centurion's performance was awkward. His delivery was too flat. I get the feeling he was supposed to scream or yell more.

>>171509241
yikes.
I guess I'll avoid the area until I'm at a higher level
those raiders/bots aren't even close to other enemies their level

>>171510001
It won't start before level 15.

>>171510241
I know, but the enemies that start spawning are way stronger than your average lvl 15 raider
And I'm playing Horizon so leveling takes a lot of time

>>171509440
God 3 and NV just had the ugliest fucking faces.

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>>171496474
FINALLY I found a mod that reduces NPC shootan accuracy in NV
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55739/?
Makes melee/unarmed runs less painful when using damage overhaul mods and also turns companions less godlike. It surprisingly doesn't conflict with Real Recoil either.

>>171510678
Now we need one that adds a penalty to them when it's night time. It'd be the closest we have to light-penalties methinks.

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PC survival mode. Just sided with Covenant. These turrets aren't providing any fucking defense rating and I can't move/delete/scrap them. What do?

how does this look for a NV load order?

http://pastebin.com/XkfKsBLF

did it all manually, I know there's not much as other people's load orders but I wanna double check before I run it.

Pay no attention to the lewd mods

>>171512254
You're missing an essential mod anon, one that fixes the game and makes it playable.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57595/?

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Honest Hearts is so comfy lads

>>171512781
to bad the DLC itself is shit.

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whose cock do i have to suck to get space marine flags

>>171511856
Blow them up and make new ones.

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What mod lets me rape my defeated enemies?

>>171513113
Won't the people of Covenant attack me if I do that? And from what I gather if they're destroyed, the turret remains can't be gotten rid of by normal means.

>>171513472
unethical Deeds

how do i use showlooksmenu on settlers without it reseting after i reload the game?
how do i use show looks menu on followers without it changing their face as soon as i open it?

>>171512881
you cunts say that about ever game and every dlc
fuck youre opinions

>>171511856
Disable them via console

>mods on the PS4

Good lord that is unfortunate. Did I get the wrong console?

>>171514221
You probably shouldn't have expected good mods on any console.

>>171514221
The only reason anyone should ever buy a ps4 is for weeb games.

>>171514221
>console in current year

>>171514378

the only reason that no one needs to buy a PS4 or even a Weeb console is because there nothing worthy of salvage in their libraries

>>171512254
alright yeah tried booting up the game and got the error missing master message, anyone know what I'm missing?

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Wanted to replay NV but saw Tales of Two Wastelands.

Does it work well ? Is it recommended ?
Saw that it was in Alpha.

Anyone running the hi-res texture pack? Is it worth the download?

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>>171513734
anyone?

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So does the Glen Canyon Dam even exist in the Fallout Universe? It's arguably as important as Hoover dam as far as it's hydroelectric potential. It's also fairly close to Caesar's Legion homeland, being as the Blackfoot are from central or eastern Grand Canyon. Could be an important location if it was in order. Although if it was destroyed that would make that area of the canyonlands more versatile as all the tributary canyons could hide tribals and mutants and other shit.

>>171509241
>Today, you spend more time at the airport than on the plane. A hundred years ago, it would have been a three day trip. Two hundreds years ago, it would have been at least a week.
Yeah, but there is still something called logistics. Travelling and maintaining influence and control are two very different things. And travelling individually is completely different than moving an army or any large unit of people. Most of the continent doesn't have the infrastructure for anything but foot and maybe slow vehicle travel. Air travel is alright but extremely expensive and risky in that if you go down you have no infrastructure to make repairs usually.

>>171508793
NV and 4 people get along fine in /fog/ too, it's just the /v/ shitstirrers always start years-old petty bullshit arguments and people take the bait.

>>171515684
It's been more than a year since I tried it last but I never had any issues.

>>171516240
>It's also fairly close to Caesar's Legion homeland, being as the Blackfoot are from central or eastern Grand Canyon

That alone would explain why it's never mentioned. Crawling with Caesar's Legion, who never use technology because it's evil or something.

>SOE doesnt have frameless half glass or quarter glass walls
fucking retard WHY NOT

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This is just too much

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22823/?

Wow these are better

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22370/?

>>171518840
it doesn't even surprise me that a japanese guy made this anymore

>>171518840
some of those are genuinely good

How do I waifu in New Vegas? None of the mods I've seen look all that good.

>>171504689
Still doesnt answer the question of how come nobody else managed all this.

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>>171518840
Cheeki breeki

>>171500332
Hows the performance?

>>171520089
I want this as a standalone mod

In the Fallout universe -- all games except for a few cultural references, particularly in 2, basically -- people still talk like they did in the late 20th/early 21st century.

Is there anyone here who knows more about languages than I do who knows if that is in any way realistic? Wouldn't at least vault dwellers develop their own lanuage/dialect?

>>171518840
we MMM now

>>171520191
As with most games where people would logically not speak modern English, you can assume that it's translated for our convenience.

>>171520089
This is basically one of the only ones in the pack that looks all right.

>>171520191
Doesnt Fallout have some radiation slang at least?
If not then Underrails got it beat there

Are Fallout 4's sexmods good yet?

Is there something like a Megapack with essential FO4 mods?

>>171521118
no
>>171521582
no

>>171520191
Whether it be through 200 years of isolation within the vaults or 200 years in the waste with the change in the landscape, environment, ecosystem, etc., almost definitely there'd be new terminology, lingo, accents, dialects, etc. Doubtful you'd see an entirely new language just because of ghouls, vault dwellers, and other living individuals to carry the English language through their descendants.

>>171520901
The only one that comes immediately to mind is rads for radiation, but maybe you're meaning something even more obscure for slang?

>>171520191
>in any way realistic?
Not really, no. But that's not the point.

If Fallout 5 is going to be made by Bethesda, I genuinely think it will be good, if they kill all of their current writers. Fo4 has all of the elements required for a good rpg; not shitty combat, interesting factions, crafting, all that stuff, its just that everything is incredibly shallow. All the different Raider groups, that we read about fighting each other and see running fight clubs and robot races are just bullet fodder when you investigate. The minute men are just horribly boring, the gunners are raiders with better gear, the triggermen are raiders with nicer clothes and mutants are once again useless npcs. the Player simply can't interact with this world that on the surface is quite interesting in any meaningful way.

Once again, Bethesda falls back on the Brotherhood to be only organised military presence in the wasteland. Bethesda, its been 200 years, the NCR and the legion are fighting literal wars, but somehow the minutemen are the only faction that (briefly) get their shit together independently of the SS. Wheres the towns and nations fighting the threats of the wasteland (not built by the SS and populated by nameless NPCs), wheres the mutant armies ruled by survivors of the masters army, wheres any factions that aren't just good guys with a touch of moral ambiguity.

Bethesda should make the whole game, set it all up with all the little things that make exploring the world fun, then give it to someone else that can write quests and stories that Don't suck.

>>171520191
Vault dwellers spend their childhoods receiving the same standardized vault tec education. I makes sense that they at least speak the same English prewar people did, with a few slang words here or there

>>171520004
No trade connections between settlements vastly limits growth.

No trade connections are made because there are too many dangers, mutants, ghouls, raiders, to make trading viable and the settlements don't trust each other enough with the Institute looming in the background.

You are the catalyst to start pulling things together, getting people to trust each other enough to work together and building momentum for development.

im still trying to remember which enb i got for FO4

but for fuck sake, this one combined with true storms made southern boston and the glowing sea look like something out of fucking hellscape

i didn't touched Fahabah yet, but seeing how both areas is atm...

is there a mod that turns player collision off with followers? they keep walking in front of me when i shoot and standing behind me when im running for cover

>>171522782

forgot the pics

>http://imgur.com/a/oNNCh

Is there ANY mod that makes NV's combat and movement FO4 like?

>>171523113
project nevada, its like the 5th most popular mod on the nexus

>>171522220
> the Player simply can't interact with this world that on the surface is quite interesting in any meaningful way.
That is because the player logically wouldn't be able to interact with any of the groups you mentioned.

>Once again, Bethesda falls back on the Brotherhood to be only organised military presence in the wasteland.
Which is consistent with every other game in the series that show only the NCR as being anything resembling a military.

The Legion only sprung up in the last 25-30 years.

The Minutemen had them beat by a century.

and the Midwest equally had nothing before the arrival of the MWBoS.

Trying to act like this is something Bethesda made up when the game made by the two other companies who worked on the series before them is disingenuous.

>>171523405
Why is it so clunky still though? Enemies don't take cover either and i feel like a slug when i move in any direction

>>171520191
I think it makes sense considering that most of the vault inhabitants most likely spoke and were literate in English. Any tribe made from a vault would probably maintain the language pretty well depending on how literate or isolated they were. More isolated, they'd probably start developing new terms for things and events that they weren't taught in English or their original native. But also any working radios, and any leftover media, recordings, slideshows, videos, will mostly be in english as well so there is no reason to think it isn't plausible that it's still inherently known in tribal areas where they have their own language now too. Their should be more spanish though, and I suppose any Navajo, Ute, and other tribal languages might pop up, if they still exist in Fallout.

I liked how Honest Hearts made the tribals speak creole or whatever, it's generic enough for gameplay but gives some flavor. Sims speak or the language from Magicka (that wierd danish-swedish pig latin type bullshit), might be funny for some tribals as well (especially ones from old North Dakota and Minnesota).

>>171516637
Yeah, I suppose there is no guarantee anyone would be aware of it, although I'm sure House would be aware of it's existance, and if the Brotherhood of Steel knew about the Hoover Dam before actually being there (why Elijah's chapter was heading east in the first place before descovering Helios One), then they could be aware of another hydroelectric facility on the Colorado river (although besides Lyon/Maxon group out east, BoS does seem pretty incompetant and sparse).

>>171523420
>made by the two other companies who worked on the series before them
show the same thing.

>>171496617
When you skipped leg-day for past 3 years of your life.

>>171499663
Just download the mod that places 50 star caps right in front of Sunset Sarparilla HQ.

It's not worth the effort.

>>171523072

it must be a nightmare facing some shit without any eyewear upgrade

>>171499772
I play on default ultra preset with 1070 I dip to 40 sometimes, but 80% of time I play with solid 60 so I didn't bother fixing that.

>>171524546
Follow the Nvidia tweak guide, that shit saves lives

>>171524885
There is tweak guide? I didn't even bother to download update yet.

>>171498727
holy fuck use foundations so i dont have to see half your building floating

>>171523420
>That is because the player logically wouldn't be able to interact with any of the groups you mentioned.

you mean that there is no way that Bethesda could make the old timey gansters, the organised mercenaries and the disorganized junkies not always hostile? fo3 had you be able to side with slavers and pitt raiders, as well as the Rangers, NV had the Khans, a raider group, be non hostile to start and the Omertas, sleazy ganster types, be part of several questlines, and fallout 4 had you be able to take over a raider gang in Nuka World. NV had 2 mutants settlements, one non hostile and both had quests. It does not take any imagination to see that they could have made then not bullet fodder

>Trying to act like this is something Bethesda made up when the game made by the two other companies who worked on the series before them is disingenuous.

My point is that the previous games had factions and settlements, that could defend themselves and traded between themselves. In Fo4 you have a vault and a city. everything else is either hostile or needs you to turn them into a real settlement.

you're forgetting that mutants were once an army, and now are just bullet sponges, that the institute made because reasons, there are no big raider tribes until nuka world adds them and the gunners, which logically seem like a large, competent force just dick around doing nothing.

>>171523494
Its an old game, the combat was terrible when it came out, it wont get much better then that. NVs strengths are its story and quests, everything else is very dated

>>171525001
>http://www.geforce.co.uk/whats-new/guides/fallout-4-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide

I find it odd that mutfruit is small adds 1 food resource meanwhile stuff like corn and melon only adds 0.5 food

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>Top three comments on my Avenger minigun mod

>>171525168
>fo3 had you be able to side with slavers and pitt raiders,
And in Nuka world you can side with the riaders, or kill them all and free the slaves.

>NV had the Khans
New Vegas also had the vipers and jackals who you couldn't talk to at all, and just shot on sight.

What you ignore in all these situations is the context.

99% of raider gangs are like the Vipers, Jackels, and those of the Capital Wasteland, Commonwealth, and Midwest.

They exist only to kill any steal from anyone who isn't them, and increase their numbers via kidnapping, and torture.

Groups like the Khans, Ashur's Pitt raiders, and the Nuka World raiders are the logical minority groups in the raider hierarchy that have managed to evolve past raiders into an actual organization, which necessitated a change in how they operate.

Calling them raiders is largely something of a misnomer at this point.

>In Fo4 you have a vault and a city. everything else is either hostile or needs you to turn them into a real settlement.
Except this is objectively false as there is Diamond City, Bunker Hill, Goodneighbor, V81, and numerous smaller farms like the Abernathy's, the Slog, The Warwicks, the Finchs, etc. etc. all of whom are connected by the trade caravans set up and run by Old Man Stockton.

>you're forgetting that mutants were once an army, and now are just bullet sponges, that the institute made because reasons
The West Coast Super mutants were an army, led by a hyper intelligent blob.

The east coast super mutants were driven insane via the pain of their transformation, which resulted from them being gassed with FEV instead of dipped, which made them lose most of their ability to reason.

Besides, you have people like Fawkes, Uncle Leo, Strong, and Erickson to learn about super mutants from

And the super mutants are byproduct of synth development

>>171518840
At least someone's trying

When there's no decent monster mods for a Bethesda game you know it's shit

>>171526128
There are almost no mods FO4 at all. Is the creation kit even out yet? They postponned it as much as possible so they could milk workshop DLCs.

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>>171525168
>and the gunners, which logically seem like a large, competent force just dick around doing nothing.
The gunners are mercs who we can see in several situations doing jobs for hire such as guarding Parsons, serving as guards for old man stockton's daughter's caravan, and protecting some richer wasteland merchants, as well as raiding places like Greentech, and Hallucigen, for clients.

I don't know where you got this idea that Gunner's aren't shown doing anything.

>>171526231
>There are almost no mods FO4 at all.
>no mods
>in slightly over a year Fallout 4 is less then 200 mods away from having just as many mods as NV has gotten in its 6+ years
what?

>>171518840
I knew it!

It was the Dolphins all along behind the Great War!

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22868/?

another mod we can use to pretend beth made a good game

>>171526231
Funny thing is the workshop DLCs are better than whatever modders could ever create

They should just stick to bugfixing and fixing up any oversights

Fanfiction mod come up with is always so cringeworthy

Anyone know a good place for Fiber Optics?

Other than the laser hall in Jamaica Plain because I already got that.

>>171526461
Must've been made by salty NV fag.

>BAAAH WHY IS THERE GREEN IN MASSACHUTTES 200 YEARS AFTER WAR! I WANT MY DESERT!

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>>171526461
Actually looks bretty good.

>>171526645
but arent bethfags the ones who have to excuse the lack of vegetation after 200 years

>>171526601
Trip lasers near the start of mechanist lair.

I need to reinstall FO4, to make the Workshop work.

>>171526962
Hmm, I'll go have a look. i was hoping for somewhere that respawns though

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>>171526461
I prefer green commonwealth.

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>>171527160
Same. I was just thinking as I was flicking through these pictures about how I'd use it, if I wasn't completely in love with grassy commonwealth.

Still looks like a really decent effort, though.

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>>171526461
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22868/?

i dont' know wich is worse, NVfags which even MCA hates them, or the Autistic NintendoZeldafags in my timeline bitching because i hated BOTW

>>171527160
i prefer my vanilla autmunn creepy one

>>171527296
are you okay, anon? did someone hurt your feelings?

>>171527097
Just lookup the wiki

It says there are 3 vendors that sells 25 shipments

>>171526601
>>171527097
>that respawns
Push the button at the end of the laser hall in jamaica plains

>>171526028
>And the super mutants are byproduct of synth development
And then they stole Shaun and that line of study went down the drain

Why did they keep making Super Mutants?

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>>171526461
That... actually doesn't look half bad.
I mean the tiles look like shit from afar, but I'd be tempted to use it with the right ENB.

Isn't there something like radiant quest from the institute where you go to Commonwealth and deactivate rogue synths? I really liked that one in main quest.

>>171527849
>And then they stole Shaun and that line of study went down the drain
Wrong you fucking idiot.

Shaun himself states that his DNA was fused WITH A MODIFIED VIRUS to form the organic compound that makes up synths.

I don't know where the fuck people keep getting this idea that the FEV shit was flushed down the drain when Shaun him fucking self tells you it wasn't if you ask about synths.

And Gen 3 synths are eplxictly stated to have many of the qualties found by FEV mutants such as
-Immunity to radiation
-Effective immorality to the point they won't die of age
-Total biological staticness, such as the lack of ability to get fat, ot, in the case they were made fat to begin with, an inability to get skinny.

>Why did they keep making Super Mutants?
In order to see if there were any possible better strains of FEV they could make to improve Gen 3 synths even more.

Super Mutant creation also served as a great means to create a large, but unorganized, army of monster to send to the surface that would keep the surfacers too distracted to try to take on The Institute, without actually killing off everyone on the surface.

>>171526028
>And in Nuka world you can side with the riaders, or kill them all and free the slaves.

read the whole post please. One retroactively added tribe that you have to give territories isn't a huge deal

>Calling them raiders is largely something of a misnomer at this point.

go into fo4 and read the terminals of the named raider leaders. They engage in power struggles, wars and raids on each other, they have clear hierarchies and are organized, its just that Bethesda was too lazy to give you any other evidence of this besides terminals. Khans are objectively raiders, they only stopped raiding because they got the shit kicked out of them, they still make and sell drugs and plan to attack the NCR with the legion. the Pitt raiders and Nuka raiders are raiders that have found a more sustainable approach; use slaves to do the work, while the raiders raid. It's just a single step up from the commonwealth raiders, who demand tribute from farms, clearly they aren't always hostile to everyone, but they are to the SS.

I have no problem with raider that are always hostile, its just that fo4 only has this variety. the only group that aren't like that exist outside of the commonwealth, failing at their job until the SS comes and saves them. The jackals/vipers are tiny groups of survivors scarping by, they are just bullet fodder, yet they are a small minority. Fiends, the most stereotypical group of raiders can be talked to and sold drugs to if you pass an easy speech check at the vault. and once again, even in fallout 3 you can deal with slavers.

>Except this is objectively false

I'll admit that I forgot about goodneighbor, but that leaves 3 real settlements. goodneighbor, a city (diamond city) and a vault (vault 81), I don't think I was clear enough when I referenced them, I apologize. However, that still leaves these tiny, mostly defenseless trading posts that either pay off raiders or need you to kill them.

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>>171505145
just wait until you start having dreams about shitposting and getting into arguments on random boards

>>171525465
Clearly your gun is a beastiality.

>>171528353
>One retroactively added tribe
And yet you use the example of Ashur, who was added in the same way while all the base game raiders in Fallout 3 were shoot on sight for the same reason they are in Fallout 4, and the same reason why the Jackals and Vipers are in New Vegas.

>go into fo4 and read the terminals of the named raider leaders. They engage in power struggles, wars and raids on each other,
I never said they weren't, but that doesn't change the point that their power struggles do not involve you, and they have no reason to what you to become involved, thus, they have no reason to discuss these things with you.

>Khans are objectively raiders, they only stopped raiding because they got the shit kicked out of them, they still make and sell drugs and plan to attack the NCR with the legion
By this logic the NCR are raiders also. "Raiders" are people who raid because that is how they sustain themselves. Khans raid for fun, but otherwise have other means of income such as drug production, and have crops and shit when they can grow them.

>he Pitt raiders and Nuka raiders are raiders that have found a more sustainable approach; use slaves to do the work, while the raiders raid. It's just a single step up from the commonwealth raiders, who demand tribute from farms, clearly they aren't always hostile to everyone, but they are to the SS.
They aren't hostile to people who have the things they need/want, aka, the people doing the farming.

You are not one of those people, nor do you have the political and monetary clout to engage them in a business payoff scheme like Bunker Hill does.

Your just some fgt wandering the wastes, aka, a target.

>even in fallout 3 you can deal with slavers.
And you can deal with slavers in Fallout 4 also. The Gunners will peacefully walk up to you and try to buy Billy and his parents off you.


You just proved the point I was making with the raiders as well. They don't attack when you have something they need/want

>>171526028
continuing from >>171528353
>The east coast super mutants were driven insane via the pain of their transformation

So what? Bethesda wrote in a reason for their mutants to be mindless and stupid and now they always have to be that way? why can't they be an actual interesting faction, Bethesda showed us how easy it is to write in a random origin story for mutants, make it interesting for fucks sake.

>>171526410
they use most of their manpower to guard random posts and generally act as tougher raiders for the player. they have huge amounts of troops in the commonwealth and barely use any of them. they could be more than just npcs to shoot, yet thats all they are. Also, they somehow guard caravans while also attacking the farms that the caravans supply, why would any merc group that wants repeat business do that?

>>171528117
nice mental gymnastics but beth just wanted super mutants in fo4

>>171528353
>owever, that still leaves these tiny, mostly defenseless trading posts that either pay off raiders or need you to kill them.
Which is how it realistically would be.

With 99.99% of the population dead due to the war, the survivors would congregate in a small handful of fortified places, and anyone outside those places would be just small farming communites.

Thats how Fallout 3 was, that is how Fallout 4 was, that is how New Vegas was as well.

>>171529059
>why can't they be an actual interesting faction
They are interesting.

Making them just
>humans with green skin
would make them boring as it robs them of any actual differences and just make their differences entirely superficial like those on the West Coast.

Super Mutants serve as the examples of the worst of mandkind's science turned upon itself.

Ita also rather interesting that the super mutant's dim wittiness, and lack of struggles for power, have allowed them to achieve a functional communist society according to Strong.

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>>171528117
>Shaun himself states that his DNA was fused WITH A MODIFIED VIRUS to form the organic compound that makes up synths.
He never says that, though.

As for the whole "biological staticness", that is more implied to be their end goal of current Synth program- As in something that is currently not attainable but close to being developed/perfected. It has been repeatedly stated that Gen 3 Synths are not "perfect" and a lot of them are still physiologically closer to humans than anything else.

Honestly, why do you think they even keep the old models around?

>>171529407
>He never says that, though.
Except he does

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Shaun%27s_dialogue

Nate: Why would they pick you?
Shaun: Ours was a unique situation. Vault-Tec records were easily accessible to the Institute, and they were looking for as young a specimen as possible.
Shaun: My parents were supposed to be kept in cryogenic suspension should a, uhh, "backup" be required.
Shaun: But none was necessary.
Shaun: The program was ultimately a success; my DNA was fused with a modified virus to create the organic material from which our new synths are made.

>Honestly, why do you think they even keep the old models around?
Because they haven't begun the full Gen 3 production schedule yet, something even the people working on the older models mention as to why they have kept them around.

>>171526128

There's no decent monster mods for any bethesda game.

Someone who knows about Fallout lore enlighten me, do we know about what happened to other nations?

>>171529407
>As for the whole "biological staticness", that is more implied to be their end goal of current Synth program
Actually, its directly stated to already be a thing

-Scientist talk about how Synth Shaun will never age

-Notes in SRB mention that while wiping synth Mcdounach's mind would remove any weakness from self perceived old age, his body being built to mimic and overweight person makes him unable to be re-purposed for anything else.

-Its epxlcitly mentioned on a terminal in The Institute that synths are unable to get fat, with the writer even joking ow hilarious it would be if synths had ultimately brought down due to getting overweight due to their love of Fancy Lad snacks

>>171529949
> do we know about what happened to other nations?
All we know is that Europe is such a craphole in general that they willingly make the trip across the ocean to reach post-war America because its a better place to live.

>>171529047
>And yet you use the example of Ashur, who was added in the same way

ono, more proof that Bethesda is lazy, I guess I'm wrong

>they have no reason to what you to become involved

how about because it would make fo4s boring ass quests more interesting.

I'm sorry, but your point about the khans/NCR is retarded, you generally make good point but just go read about the khans on the wiki, I can't be bothered fight over their whole history.

>They aren't hostile to people who have the things they need/want

and theres absolutely no way that Bethesda, who gave us information about how these raiders fight with each other, and hold robot races and fight clubs with other non raiders, could make some quests with raiders? no way at all that you could deliver drugs to them, or bet with them, get paid to take out their rivals, or get paid to kill raiders who try to convince you not to kill them, or taking a leaf out of NVs book, recruit them for your faction like the Khans, who can support either faction?

Also, dude, slavers have their own faction, town, quests and and followers. are you trying to say that the one quests with the ghoul is the same?

>>171529382
>They are interesting.

I feel like I'm being baited here. They don't have to be exactly like humans with green skin to make them have goals and in the commonwealth. Name one thing that any super mutants groups want to accomplish besides killing anyone that comes near their bases or raiding farms

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I'm unsure of how faction shits works in Fallout 4. Will I be able to get far enough into the Railroad to get Deliverer and ballistic weave /and/ have access to BoS vertibird transport grenades? I really want those things for survival

>>171530479
The deliverer is gotten through tradecraft, the first quest for the railroad, for the vertibird grenades you need to clear fort strong for the bos, then you can buy them from proctor teagan.

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>>171529657
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24913/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/3211/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/26634/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F

please kys yourself

>>171530479
If you beat the game and side with the Railroad or the Minutemen, you'll still get Vertibird signal grenades at the end, since they essentially commandeer them off the BoS.

>>171530760
And there won't be any sort of "hurr you did a quest for another faction so now we won't work with you at all" kinda crap?

>>171530358
>ono, more proof that Bethesda is lazy, I guess I'm wrong
>its lazy to give actual context behind violent raiders not attacking you then just having them not do so because reasons!
Yeah, no, That is the exact opposite of lazy.

>how about because it would make fo4s boring ass quests more interesting.
Except it wouldn't.

All it would be is more "Go kill this raider leader who is the enemy of ME Raider lead X!" quests.

>and theres absolutely no way that Bethesda, who gave us information about how these raiders fight with each other, and hold robot races and fight clubs with other non raiders, could make some quests with raiders?
They did come up with quests related to raiders, when the context made sense for it to be, aka Nuka world.

Also, you ignore the fact that the Combat zone was raiders only after it was taken over by raiders, and the race track they shared with the Triggermen, another criminal organization that also happened to be the main chem suppliers for the region.

> no way at all that you could deliver drugs to them
Any halfway decent faction like the raiders and Triggermen would have already set up a defined system to transport chems in order to prevent the hilarious idiocy of New Vegas's quests such as those dealing with the Great Khan Melissa trying to get the drug shipment from her father, but you being able to turn them all in.

>or bet with them,
Why would raiders bet with you? Why wouldn't they just, you know, raid you for your shit?

>get paid to take out their rivals
Any raider boss who wants his men to respect him would kill his rivals with his own gang. Needing to hire outside mercs only makes you look weak, and thus, vulnerable.

>or get paid to kill raiders who try to convince you not to kill them
Raider's dont stand down.

>? or taking a leaf out of NVs book, recruit them for your faction like the Khans, who can support either faction?
Khans are not raiders, and none of the factions in Fallout 4 want raiders around.

>>171530913
Ooohh very interesting. So I wouldn't even need to do BoS quests, technically?

>>171530358
>Also, dude, slavers have their own faction, town, quests and and followers. are you trying to say that the one quests with the ghoul is the same?
In Fallout 3, ebcuase Paradise Falls worked for Ashur.

The Ashur who controls all the slaving along the east coast

The same Ashur whose reach doesn't extend to The Commonwealth, where there would thusly be nowhere near as many slavers since the organization to process/buy them isn't there.

Slavers shouldn't be a noteable thing in The commonwealth based on what we saw of how Ashur runs the slaving operations on the east coast in The Pitt.

>>171530925
Nope. You're free to do what you want. You can choose to never work with them ever again if you want.
Just go up to the prydwen and get more grenades whenever you need them, as long as you aren't enemies with the bos you can keep getting grenades. He sells 4-9 of them at a time if i remember correctly.

Just don't take maccready on the prydwen, he always falls off, then you have to go down and heal him or he gets shitty at you. in my survival playthrough every time i docked on the prydwen he fell off.

>>171530773
>MMM
>good
I mean if you like nifskope abominations and oblivion ports sure

>>171531040
If you're willing to destroy the Brotherhood and wait that long, then yeah.

>>171530118

Wow, that's amazing. But now i want a Fallout: Europe Edition game.

>>171531282
Sweet. Thanks, anon.
>every time i docked on the prydwen he fell off
Fucking kek

>>171531687
Ahh I see. I think I'll try to blaze through the BoS quests to get access to vertibirds then. Any idea how long/difficult that will be on a survival character who's currently level 12 or so?

KLE-O IS THICC

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>there's weird beached dolphin things
>but no mutant sharks that spook your ass and eat you if you swim out too far

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i wonder what actually happened in that night of passion between the sole survivor and Gilda. describe in as much detail as you'd like.

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>>171498727
>>171503539
Reminds me of the HQ I built a few runs ago.
Never got around to fully decorating it...

>>171530954
all of your points about quests lead back to my original point; Bethesda set up the groundwork for good quests, its just that they suck at making quests.

>>its lazy to give actual context behind violent raiders not attacking you then just having them not do so because reasons!

No, its lazy to retroactively add in those reasons through paid DLC

I still can'y believe that you can't accept that the combat zone and the racetrack would be more interesting if they weren't shooting galleries. once again, is it really outside the realm of possibility that these very interesting locations could made open to the player?

>Raider's dont stand down.
they dont if they are mindless npcs that only kill. use your fucking imagination and imagine them as humans with motivations, fears and needs

>Khans are not raiders

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Khans
>The Great Khans are a raider gang found in the Mojave Wasteland
>The Great Khans are the only truly organized band of raiders in the Mojave

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Khans
>The Khans are a tribe of brutally vicious and semi-organized raiders

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Which part of the US was nuked the most during the Great War?

>>171531920
Like the other guy said, Tradecraft is essentially the first Railroad mission once you find them, and it primarily involves sneaking around and taking out a few Gen 1 synths. Should be able to do that fine if you're not going in guns blazing.

The Brotherhood mission might be a bit harder, since it involves going into hostile Supermutant territory and killing them out in the open. If you don't kill the Behemoth before landing, since I forget if it's required that you do so, then that'll also be a problem.

>>171532575
Generally New York and Washington D.C.

I really thought it was cool to see things like floaters and random muties in Fo1 and Fo2, as well as centaurs in Fo3. Only humanoid supermutants and their hounds exist in Fo4 makes them really boring. I would prefer that Beth left them out entirely and had less deathclaws. Why is it now that the new fauna also is two-headed deer and stuff, not just one headed and otherwise horribly mutated?

I would love a mod that ultimately removes Supermutants and quests that involve them, and otherwise replaces *most* muties. The names and intelligent ones are vastly more interesting, and could have travelled north away from the Cap Wasteland.

Also gunners joinable. It is dumb of them to take on piss-poor minutemen and not the one god damned person who is reclaiming the entire commonwealth and becomes incredibly famous (or infamous.)

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Which outfit for Curie is best? I think I found my new waifu, that french accent is diamonds.

>>171532638
I see. Thanks for all the info, anon.

>>171532515
>all of your points about quests lead back to my original point; Bethesda set up the groundwork for good quests, its just that they suck at making quests.
Except they don't

All my points lead back to my original point of
>None of the shit you are suggesting makes sense because raiders would have no need to involve you in these affairs, and trying to force the plaer into them would just make the situation illogical.

>No, its lazy to retroactively add in those reasons through paid DLC
Except it wasn't retroactive, as the raiders featured in those DLC were not involved with the raiders of the base game.

>I still can'y believe that you can't accept that the combat zone and the racetrack would be more interesting if they weren't shooting galleries
Have you played any arena in any RPG?

Its literally nothing more then
>enter
>kill an easy NPC
>leave
>Get paid
>repeat
Its literally the epitome of boring radiant content that makes radiant quests look deep.

The racetrack would have literally just been
>place bet
>watch the terrible AI try to run around the track making who wins based on nothing but sheer chance
>get paid if your bet was successful
>repeat

WOW ITS FUCKING NOTHING!


>is it really outside the realm of possibility that these very interesting locations could made open to the player?
Because they aren't interesting unless really boring and mundane shit entertains you.

>and imagine them as humans with motivations, fears and needs
They are already as such
-Their motivations are to steal from others because they don't want to work
-Their fears are not finding anyone to raid to get cash/supplies
-Their needs consist of food and caps which they get by raiding others since they became raiders due to not wanting to work for shit.

seriously, I think you have watched to many mafia or gang dramas and have gotten some sort of warped idea of how shit like gangs actually work.

>Khans are not raiders
>using shit from the wiki as if it was evidence.

>>171532638
the behemoth can destroy the vertibird at fort strong, it happened to me when i was focusing on some legendary supermutants instead of the behemoth. But if you actually attack it like you are supposed to, you don't have a problem.

>>171532081
Why add sharks you'll have no way to kill them since there is no water combat

Then you have to spend time developing a new mechanic for one monster

Considering the fact people struggle and lack focus to do the main quest you want to spend resources on something a fraction of the playerbase will see let alone enjoy

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>>171532821
>coolest-looking enemy in the game
>appears once, dead

>>171532748
According to Raul, Bakersfield was hit as hard as D.C. for some bizarre reason.

>>171533045
np. I could never personally bother with VertiBirds. Even when I rarely use FT, I prefer to just run from point to point and camp out during the night.

>>171533129
Yeah, I always aim at it while coming in on the VertiBird, and I don't recall if I've ever failed to take it down before landing.

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>>171532821
No, no.. NOOO

Fuck off nigga centaurs are goddamn nightmare fuel, seeing concept art for Fallout 4 centaurs I am glad they didn't make it in final game.

Holy fuck what a horror

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>>171533147
>Why do you want to do anything but the bare minimum?

>>171533147
>how about completely useless Gorilla models with animations and AI that are in one quest and it's only one of the possible outcomes

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So, i decided to go through the front door instead of the subway this time to clear the library, with my targeting quad missle launcher, it made easy work of the supermutants

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>>171533005

i use this GITS suit, it doesn't really suit her personality, but it suits dat booty. and besides i feel like she'd wear whatever you told her to. the perfect wife.

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>>171533005
This one

>>171529949
Europe before the bombs was basically at Soylent Green levels anyway, no resources, nations and militaries exhausted over the resource wars, shitty packed cities of poor people. They probably got fucked when the bombs dropped, even if they weren't hit as much directly as America and China.

Middle east is fucked too as no more oil, no global influence, probably back to petty rival tribes. Russia and central asia, any place worthwhile would've been nuked, the empty space might work, central asia's post-war prosperity depends on whether a horse-type animal survived. India and Pakistan would be fucked, China would be fucked between nukes and people, Japan and Korea probably too, and SE asia probably would be too.

Basically any country that had some major population centers and industrial areas would've probably gotten fucked, and even if they didn't get directly attacked by atomics, the years after the war with the radiation and climate changes, would most likely cause widespread famines in any populated areas that survived. Then the eventual breakdown of global trade and medicine would mean whoever didn't die of starvation would probably die from some horrible plague.

>>171533313
I'm being realistic
The effect of dumbing downed games because of mainstream popularity of videogames with the average consumer being dumb, plus other factors like competition wanting to make it accessible as possible and how saturated the videogame market is with games constantly being produced

>>171533382
Well it was expanded on with two DLC's wasteland workshop and nuka world

But yes it was an wasted effort

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>>171498727

My home is kinda humble

Just a fixed up version of the SS's house with a working AC, plumbing, and comfort. But it was decorated with some silly stuff, too.

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>>171533962

I also built a cabinet for all of Synth Nora's cupcakes.

>>171533962
Is the Broadsider any decent in combat?

New Vegas is the worst in the series. 1 also sucks. The Best is Fallout 4, followed by 3, then 2.

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>>171534553
bait

>>171533052
your point that getting involved in raiders affairs is illogical is true because Bethesda wrote it that way. what im saying is that it would not be hard at all to write in some actual interesting raider faction into the base game, and then give them quests. they the locations, named leaders and squabbles all lined up, but they went the usual boring ass Bethesda way

the race track and combat zone could be fun. imagine building your own racing robot, imagine having them fight, imagine making bets and setting up opponents to fail, imagine being paid to kill cass in the arena for a quest imagine using the arena to get the raiders respect, imagine something interesting you faggot, why do you accept that Fallout 4s boring ass quests have to suck. my original point is that Bethesda can make interesting world spaces but can't make quests for shit. These locations are proof

As for raiders, same logic applies. Would you believe it, raiders are humans. They don't just exist to be baddies and do baddie things, which I think is what you see them as.

As far as I can tell, gangs don't shoot everything on site, but thats irrelevant because raiders aren't gangs, they are tribes of survivors who do horrible shit to survive (or get their rocks off). why do all raiders have to be hostile, saying they all want to kill you because thats the way they are is lazy writing, which Bethesda realize but don't do a whole lot about, just adding some depth through DLC. Why do we read about a raider who kidnaps another raiders sister for ransom, which leads to the brother wasting food, caps and bullets delivering ransom and launching attacks to free her?


tell us what the khans are then friend. what would you call a group that survived solely of raiding towns and caravans, got pushed slowly back in to vegas, where they continued to raid until they were slaughtered, after which they used the followers to learn how to make drugs, that are called raiders by npcs in the game

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>MR. PRESIDENT! NOOOOO!

>>171534351

I've never seriously used it.

>>171534771

Even the Fiends, the NV equivalent of "shitty raiders who exist solely to shoot and loot," have leaders and a sort of goal.

>>171534351
If you max out the perk for big guns it might be okay.
It seems like a gimmick, though.

>>171534331
>918
how? Do you just never sell them?

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>>171533005
Waifus look great in the one you posted, or the slightly red recolor on nexus.

I'm also partial to the Shroud outfit, since it's not only the best weight to protection ratio armor in the vanilla game, but it also looks fly.

>>171534771
> because Bethesda wrote it that way
And this is where your argument falls apart.

It isn't illogical because Bethesda wrote it that way, in fact, its the exact opposite.

Bethesda wrote it that way BECAUSE it is illogical.


>the race track and combat zone could be fun. imagine building your own racing robot, imagine having them fight,
You can already do this, its called Wasteland Workshop + Automatron.

Hell, Wasteland Workshop lets you have arena fights with more variants then the combat zone was going to have.

>imagine making bets
Already had that with Oblivion's arena, and arenas in most games with arena,s its never worth the time.

>and setting up opponents to fai
This wouldn't happen outside of a major main quest related questline for the same reason it doesn't happen in any game outside a similar situation. Its not worth the coding for such a small thing.

> imagine being paid to kill cass in the arena for a quest
Cass isn't even in Fallout 4. And being made to kill Cait in an area battle wold be stupid.

> imagine using the arena to get the raiders respect
Raiders don't give a flying shit about respecting you, and you can fight in an arena forever and never earn the respect of people who, by their nature, don't want to give it. see Cait.

>imagine something interesting you faggot,
Imagination only matters when tempered by realistic design goals, of which, what you stated is not outside a game focused primarly around those things, which no Fallout game is.

> why do you accept that Fallout 4s boring ass quests have to suck
I actually find most of them interesting. things like Diamond City Blues, the Cabot House questline, The Big Dig, Silver Shroud, and others were enjoyable.

>These locations are proof
Nothing you have said is proof of anything but your overactive imagination.

>They don't just exist to be baddies and do baddie things, which I think is what you see them as.
I don't think they do either.
(cont)

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>>171535519
>Silver Shroud

That's best side-quest in entire game. I RP'd as Silver Shroud entire quest and it was hilarious, also the stuff they said on the radio was priceless. No one took you seriously and in the end you had raiders on your neck.

>>171534771
>They don't just exist to be baddies and do baddie things, which I think is what you see them as.
I don't think they do either.

Raiders exist because there are many people who find it easier to take things from others then to work for those things themselves, and like minded people will naturally group together to achieve their goals.

That is what raiders are.

> why do all raiders have to be hostile, saying they all want to kill you because thats the way they are is lazy writing
No it isn't, that isl literally the whole purpose behind being a RAIDER

>Why do we read about a raider who kidnaps another raiders sister for ransom, which leads to the brother wasting food, caps and bullets delivering ransom and launching attacks to free her?
Because those are the sort of things raiders do to each other in an attempt to jockey for a higher position among the clans.

those things are there, and mentioned, because they would logically be going on, regardless of you having no reason to be involved with them.

the problem is that you don't want a living breathing world, you want a world where everything revolves around you, and everyone just lets you into their club because
>We'll I am the payer character, and I should be able to do whatever I want, and join whoever I want, regardless!

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>>171535473

Entire settlement of bots farming wheat
Entire settlement of bots farming tarberries
I had like 15,000 plastic

All that + food production machine, I was pumping out snack cakes like crazy. My SS has so much stuff he could singlehandedly reboot the industrial age for the East coast. I have like 1500 nuka colas.

Here's a video tour of my home. I don't really spend a lot of time there, though.

https://files.catbox.moe/q5t5td.webm

>>171535687
Check mechanist dlc while wearing SS costume.

>>171536052
The SS also gets some dialogue in Nuka World when confronting Overboss Coulter, and when doing the western area.

>>171535935
Jesus.

>>171536052
>>171536368
Why Bethesda didn't just make Unstopabbles DLC.

They made goofy DLCs for Fallout 3, imagine DLC where you play as SS and you can have Grognak and Manta-Man and others as companions and you do goofy missions, maybe as a part of simulation in Vault which Sole Survivor found.

>>171536558
Because they are likely saving the others for future games.

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>>171526483
> the workshop DLCs are better than whatever modders could ever create

Yeah its not like Bethesda added elevators that are only compatible with the one other building material added in the DLC and anything from the vanilla game or other DLC is too short resulting in shit like pic related

>>171535935
>Fancy Lad Snack Cakes
>Gen. 3 synths do not require food, but can eat if need to, for obvious reasons, to blend in
>most gen. 3 synths prefer Fancy Lad Snack Cakes for some reason
>Gen. 3 synths were created from the DNA/Genes of Shaun
>All Gen. 3 synths are practically grand children of SS
>genes can't lie

THE BULL

>>171536872
Commander Shepard?

>>171535761
>the problem is that you don't want a living breathing world, you want a world where everything revolves around you

no no no I want the opposite; I don't want to read about raiders fighting each other in a terminal I want to see the evidence because some junkie offered me 2 stimpaks and some jet to go help him shoot up his rivals, I want to be conscripted by the gunners because the supermutants are invading again, I want to be unwittingly used as a drug mule by the triggermen to get drugs into Diamond city. I want to feel like the worlds events are sweeping the player character along, not just a static world with a few boring choices. Thats why quests like Diamond city blues and Cabot house are so good, things seem to be happening while the SS is going along his way, not because of him. The NPCs path merely intersects with the SS. thats why the minutemen are the worst faction, they have 0 agency, unlike the others, which at least pursue their goals independently of the SS.

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>>171534351
with maxed Demolition Expert and Heavy Gunner, it is insane. it's on par with the missile launcher. think of it as an antique grenade launcher.

>>171537220
>no no no I want the opposite
Except you literally don't as evidenced by wanting raiders to do all these things they logically wouldn't do in any situation outside of a game where the world revolves around you.

>terminal I want to see the evidence because some junkie offered me 2 stimpaks and some jet to go help him shoot up his rivals
Again, raider clans who are unable to take care of such situations themselves are considered weak, and their leader would be considered weak.

>I want to be conscripted by the gunners because the supermutants are invading again
Gunners don't really conscript people. They make contact with those they feel are worthy and offer them a place in their organization.

>I want to be unwittingly used as a drug mule by the triggermen to get drugs into Diamond city
Triggermen don't need you to do that because, like any decent group, they already have such a thing established before the game begins. Aka, they use Nelson Latimer, which is explored in the Diamond City blues quest.

> I want to feel like the worlds events are sweeping the player character along, not just a static world with a few boring choices.
And the game already does that, however, most of the things you have suggested are operations that would have been llong since set up and established before you unfroze from Vault 111, thus precluding you from being involved in them.

>thats why the minutemen are the worst faction, they have 0 agency, unlike the others, which at least pursue their goals independently of the SS.
The whole point of the Minutemen was that everyone is disenfranchised with them due to how they fell.

They have no agency because they literally do not exist until you resurrect them.

>>171537407
But Ammo must be downside, I guess cannonballs at the Castle don't respawn, right?

>>171537623
You are intentionally missing the point let me repeat it

>I want to feel like the worlds events are sweeping the player character along, not just a static world with a few boring choices.

Gunners have a unit called gunner conscript by the way

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>>171536989

That has some rather unfortunate implications for anyone that romances Danse, Curie, or sleeps with the singer in Goodneighbor.

>>171537909
>I want to feel like the worlds events are sweeping the player character along, not just a static world with a few boring choices.
And you aren't going to get that with what you propose, all you will get is an artificial world where everything is built around letting you be included even if there isn't any reason for you to be included.

>Gunners have a unit called gunner conscript by the way
And raiders have a rank called "raider scum"

Your point?

Generic enemy NPC ranks aren't really anything but a label.

Nothing in-game actually suggests the Gunner conscript people.

>>171537804
vendors will stock them after the quest. if you're on PC, you can use Manufacturing Extended to craft them.

>>171538024
>That has some rather unfortunate implications for anyone that romances Danse, Curie, or sleeps with the singer in Goodneighbor.

Can synths get... Prrregante?

>>171537804
Vendors start selling cannonballs when you get it and you can use the eyebot pod to find more ammo.

>>171537220
The problem with what you propose is readily expressed by the "I Fought the Law" quest in New Vegas.

>Powder Gangers let you just walk up to their base, despite the fact you could be an NCR ranger sent to spy on them
>Powder Gangers just let you into their base after a small bribe, despite the fact you could be an NCR ranger sent to spy on them
>Powder Gangers just let you walk around their base freely, despite the fact you could be an NCR ranger sent to spy on them
>Powder Gangers just let you talk to their boss, despite the fact you could be an NCR ranger sent to spy on them
>Powder Gangers randomly give someone they just met some quests, despite the fact you could be an NCR ranger sent to spy on them, and oculd easily use the chance to sabotage their efforts.
>Powder Gangers don't bother sending anyone to watch you, despite the fact you could be an NCR ranger sent to spy on them and could be using the chance to sabotage them
>this ultimately leads to the player being able to inform the NCR about the Powder Gangers plans, causing the NCR to attack and easily defeat the Powder Gangers

and all of this could have been easily avoided had the Powder Gangers just shot you the moment you came into view, and did it themselves with people who are already part of thier gang,m and that they can trust.

What you are suggesting is that every raider group in the game world, and other factions like the Triggermen, and Gunners, should be this level of completely stupid.

Instead of doing the smart thing they are already doing by doing it themselves, and killing anyone in their way.

>>171538041
>all you will get is an artificial world where everything is built around letting you be included even if there isn't any reason for you to be included.

what, you mean like a video game? you also seem to think that a I want every single strung out raider to be my friend, read my previous posts in the argument to gain insight.

>Nothing in-game actually suggests the Gunner conscript people.

yeah, the fact that they have people called Gunner Conscripts is a pretty big clue.

Why else would they be called conscripts? what a bizarre point to debate. Gunner privates are privates and gunner lieutenants are lieutenants in the gunner chain of command, but gunner conscripts think the name is cool?. It makes sense because they are based on the military, but are also assholes who would force people to fight.

>>171538429

No one knows

Its implied they can't

>>171538603
read the first part of
>>171538631

>>171538631
>Why else would they be called conscripts?
Because the Gunners are a merc group that use military name conventions to make themselves look more legitimate despite the fact most people in the wasteland, themselves included, don't really understand how the military actually worked.

>>171538631
>what, you mean like a video game?
That is ture of bad video games.

I would hope you aren't suggesting you want a bad video game.

>you also seem to think that a I want every single strung out raider to be my friend, read my previous posts in the argument to gain insight.
Your previous post is nothing but an inane list of gibberish arguments that have already been debunked

Also, you already got raiders to be your friends, when it made sense for them to be, aka Nuka World

>>171518840
I installed it with nmm, but new creatures just invisible.

Are there any mods that allow two or more companions?

If so how does conversations work sometimes in dialog companions can comment and very rarely actually be responded

>>171500332
Love it. I'm finishing up my RR tower. Trying to fit concrete powered doors into an already made frame is an exercise of self flagellation.

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>>171538680
>Its implied they can't

God damn the Institute would make a gigantic rip off selling Synths as prostitute sex bot thingies, with varying colors, races, features and biology.

Well that's what I would do if I was Shaun/SS, I'd become THE greatest Pimp in the entire US Wasteland.

You steal my bitches, you're gonna get reverse raped by death claw cazador centaur hybrid synths through every orifice.

And I would genetically engineer new STD's to make extremely super expensive vaccines (Cures for highest bidders and tools and puppet leaders, or replace them with synths), make new extremely addictive chems and make a profit selling chem addiction removers, while killing off/buying off/replacing doctors with synths to make sure I'm the only one who can remove addictions, and pretty much war with Mr. House and NCR and Caesar's Legion from within by selling all three high tech weapons and armaments and other technology, which I can freely control from within the Institute.

So, yeah, a Pimp-Drug-Arms Lord.

>>171538680
Synths should be unable to get pregnant due to the sterilizing effects of the FEV they are made from.

>>171539521
But me, as a new director of the Institute can make Gen 4 Synth body for Curie which doesn't use FEV strain and make my waifu pregnant.

Doing some roleplaying and was thinking of paying my "employees" (settlers) some caps every week alongside the fact they live in releative comfort and safety of my property. What would a fair wage be for my guards and farmers on my settlements? Does 30 caps a week sound fair? Too low/high?

>>171538024
>this room can only feasibly exist because Bethesda can't consistently write the Brotherhood of Steel.webm

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god my neighbors are annoying

every single time i come home i can hear them fighting next door and I'm finally sick of it

good thing last time I came home i'd just returned from Galactic Zone and had a shitton of turret components, so when I got home this time I was greeted with this glorious sight

but seriously, don't set up shop at Nuka World Red Rocket if you want quiet

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>>171539381
>pre-war business conglomerates who cause WWIII and a nuclear holocaust mass produce semi-intelligent artificial life
>it's sold to civilians and the military, making these companies absurdly rich and influential

>after-war group of "the most brilliant minds ever" mass produce extremely intelligent artificial life, indistinguishable from humans
>uses them as mediocre assassins, does not sell them, doesnt do anything with them really

>>171540095
How do you mean?

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>>171540393

He means that room and whoever owned it would shoot up the Brotherhood of Steel priority list because that's enough power armor to fund an entire bunker. Just seeing it would give every Elder known to the faction a nosebleed and seizures. They probably wouldn't think twice about gunning down whoever it belonged to and just stealing it all, they've done that for less.

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>>171498727
Waiting for people to show up is the worst part of building a Sim Settlement town.

But it's going to be a nice place once everyone settles in.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21923/?
>Suggesting to return the Brotherhood will lead you to a new quest during which the duel takes place and a new Elder is decided
any of you use this mod? who becomes the elder? danse?

>Tedious inventory management makes the game more fun!
Survival players lmao baka

>>171538946
no, good video games are designed so that the world is not static and boring. most of Fallout 4s quests involve the NPCs stuck at a problem and held in limbo, without even the illusion that they could solve the problem.

look at the opening quest for NV. You are chasing a character that has goals that run parallel to your own, and and you encounter him and the khans at several points along the way. He feels like a real character because he is still doing things while you try and catch him. now look at Kellogg; he goes straight to his boss fight, and Bethesda ruins any sense of urgency in catching him very early on. thats what I'm trying to get at, fo4 is static and boring, with the exception of the quests mentioned above, and I don't want fo5 to be

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>>171540535
But the person who owns it is the main character, who is presumably a known quantity to the brotherhood.

also they'd have to find it, right?

>>171540817
>He feels like a real character because he is still doing things while you try and catch him
Except this is objectively false as by the time you wake up Benny has been in Vegas for over a week.

In fact, its one of New Vegas's biggest plot holes that after stealing the plat chip from you, and getting back to Vegas, Benny does LITERALLY NOTHING to advance his plan, and basically just sits around until you show up before he does anything.

>now look at Kellogg; he goes straight to his boss fight
Except he does no such thing, as we can see in his memory sequence, he goes back to Diamond City, wait theres for you for a bit with the synth Shaun biat, gets contacted by X6, gets sent on a mission, goes to his base in fort Hagen to prepair for a trip into the Glowing Sea, and then you catch him there.

You seem to have gotten Benny's lack of doing something, and Kellogg's actually doing something, mixed around.

>>171540716
>He doesn't understand how challenges can be fun

I bet you are the kind of person who cheats in online games

>>171540965

There is not a living non-Brotherhood human being in existence who the Brotherhood would trust with that much technology. They have fought the NCR, an established nation, over technology. They have also tried to wipe out Mr. House, who is a 200+ year old robot master. Even if you swore total allegiance to them the only in-character option the Brotherhood could take is to give you a suit and confiscate the rest, keeping it in their bunker.

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>>171541076
>its one of New Vegas's biggest plot holes that after stealing the plat chip from you, and getting back to Vegas, Benny does LITERALLY NOTHING to advance his plan

Except he does, he consulted the Followers of the Apocalypse to construct Yes-Man who in turn tells Benny how to take control of New Vegas. Then when you find Benny (and choose not to kill him) he goes to Caesar's Fort, attempting to sneak in and activate the robotic army there. He is actively working the entire time and by gameplay logic he's only at the Tops because you happened to walk in during that brief period between "I just learned what to do" and "I'm going to go do what I need to do." What do you expect? Benny vanish after an in-game week and appear at Caesar's Fort? You do realize the game uses the Gamebryo engine right? And that all time/place based quests all end up horribly buggy for a hundred different reasons?

This is like the third time some Bethesda toddler has tried to claim New Vegas is "full of plot holes" and then blown the fuck out by easily-found proof otherwise. I'm starting to wish the series really did die at 2.

>>171541076
Its obvious very early on that Kellogg, by the time you wake up, has left left diamond city years ago, and seemingly went straight to the base where he dies

>>171541291
>Except he does, he consulted the Followers of the Apocalypse to construct Yes-Man who in turn tells Benny how to take control of New Vegas
Wrong, Benny did that BEFORE he jumped you and stole the plat chip.

It was him hijacking Yes Men that led him to know of the chip in the first place.

> Then when you find Benny (and choose not to kill him) he goes to Caesar's Fort, attempting to sneak in and activate the robotic army there.
Which he should have done in the over a week you were out.

That he waits for literally no reason is just a plot device to give you a illogical change to talk to him at the casino, and possibly make life harder on yourself.

> Then when you find Benny (and choose not to kill him) he goes to Caesar's Fort, attempting to sneak in and activate the robotic army there.
Except most quests are time based, and none of them break unless you accelerate or slow down the timescale.

everything you said is objectively wrong.