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Route L: EVER DAYS A SA[L]E

>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>What is /ndg/?
A place to talk about Nier, Drakengard and Taros games

>Official Nier:Automata page
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>Important information
http://nier.wikia.com/wiki/NIER_Wiki

>What Happened before Nier: Automata began
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/03/10/heres-what-happened-before-nier-automatas-story-began/

>The Weekly 2B Butt .Zip Download (Lewds and Non-Lewds):
https://twitter.com/2b_butt

>Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia [Untranslated]
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>Drakengard/Nier Collection Archive
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>NieR: Automata Steam Theme Download:
http://pastebin.com/4WwASa48

Previous Route:
>>171425243
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has a canon ending been announced? Really hoping it's e.

Also, anyone wish they added a bit more to ending e? Like some more dialogue between 2b and 9s, etc
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>>171456141
This is a great contribution by the way, thank you!
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Route M better be MURDER.
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Swift and quick reminder that my Steam Theme can be found in the OP as a pastebin link, in case you don't regularly check OP posts.

Thank you all for your time and I hope you appreciate the skin as much as I appreciate that weird beige color.
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>>171456402
what's in the collection archive.

i've tried to dl 3 times already and it gets stuck at 99%...
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>>171456501
It's actually deb[U]nked, the next game will be about the Commander landing on another planet with weird descendants of actual humans trying to fuck her
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>>171456558
Cheers!
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>>171456604
Novellas/Story-related stuff for the games.
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Would you suck Kaines dick?
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How do I get an animal at every save point like some people seem to have?
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redropping some hot opinions

The game is kind of weird
>only three proper dungeons, one of which is mostly an extension of the other
>difficulty balance is fucked up
>need to roam the world again as 9S to unlock chests
>not really much point to using most weapons
>A2 and 2B is very identical gameplay wise
>pacing feels strange
>can't properly replay previous chapters because they're cakewalk

most bosses were underwhelming
>Engels, Beauvoir, Grun and the tower balls were great but over half of them were balls with boring backstory (hurr must kill humans (aren't humans already extinct by the time the aliens invaded?))

the characters weren't very sympathetic
>half of 2B's and A2's story are missing or is a stage play
>9S is basically the real protagonist
>no one cares about the commander
>no one cares about Anemone or the Resistance in general, fucking useless scrubs

some weird plot points
>game doesn't feel like there's a war going on besides in one or two points in the story
>why is there an E model during the factory assault when their existence is a secret?
>why did the cult robots go nuts?
>why did Pascal's villagers go nuts?
>why are Adam and Eve so disappointing?
>what is the copied city?
>why is there a recreation of Popola's library in the tower?
>who are the proprietors of Project YoRHa?
>how many times have Project YoRHa been initiated?
>do none of the non-YoRHa androids suspect anything weird is afoot about the YoRHa androids?
>how did Jackass find out about them?
>why are there so many Drakengard references but no explanation?
>stay tuned for Grimoire Automata, coming whenever the fuck

nitpicks
>the block in front of Masamune's crib always resets
>can't open menu while feet isn't touching the ground
>animals need to be in a specific animation before you can hop on it
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>>171456706
Throw the max amount of money possible at the Half-Wit Inventor
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>>171456641
Yes.
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>>171456767
which is?
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>>171456794
think it's like 100K or 200K.
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Why does 9S keep talking about how simple things like anger or revenge are "too complex for a machine" even well after you meet pascal?
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>that slight tinge of guilt when killing the docile machines for the item supply guy at the resistence camp
>that major guilt when slicing up a boar even after it gores me
>that even worse guilt when killing a moose successfully and getting its meat
I'm not ready for route E
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>>171456760
>>why is there an E model during the factory assault when their existence is a secret?
According to 9S. Whether E-types are a secret, he didn't know because Command removed them from his memory or he wanted to tease 2E a bit because he started to suspect something is up to you.
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>>171456829

It's a total of 80k first, then a one more payment of 100k, I think
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>>171456760
>some weird plot points
>game doesn't feel like there's a war going on besides in one or two points in the story
It's only fragment of one City that happens to house some dank machine terminal
>why is there an E model during the factory assault when their existence is a secret?
You, as 2B/E can see it. It may also be a ruse i.e. E for espionage or some shit
>why did the cult robots go nuts?
To become as gods/humans - dead
>why did Pascal's villagers go nuts?
Virus
>why are Adam and Eve so disappointing?
4(You)
>what is the copied city?
Adam's pet project to imitate humanity
>why is there a recreation of Popola's library in the tower?
Fanservice
>who are the proprietors of Project YoRHa?
Androids who want to give another androids questioning war for humanity meaning
>how many times have Project YoRHa been initiated?
It may be the first time.
>do none of the non-YoRHa androids suspect anything weird is afoot about the YoRHa androids?
Why would they? YoRHa is cutting edge project with only 3 years of field operations
>how did Jackass find out about them?
It's in her report, come on
>why are there so many Drakengard references but no explanation?
Haven't played DoD
>>stay tuned for Grimoire Automata, coming whenever the fuck
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>>171456760
>>171456971
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>>171456914
It's denial. He doesn't want to empathize with his "enemy"
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>>171457013
>You, as 2B/E can see it.
1D calls in "7E down".
>It may also be a ruse i.e. E for espionage or some shit
Then shouldn't 9S know about Espionage-types?
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Where do you catch the Arowana Machine, i've been fishing for 6 hours now.
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>>171457013
>>171457092
Maybe the better question should've been, how did Adam built a city in a short period of time? Complete with hundreds of android corpses for some reason.
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Where would Raiden fit into this game? How would he interact with the characters, and so on?
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>>171457418
Stay tuned for the Adam and Eve prologue DLCs!
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>>171457282
And when did 9S stumble upon E type outside one sidequest with little red riding hood and A2 rubbing 2E in his face?
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>>171456641
If you didn't she'd just make you do it come nightfall.
Probably drag you all over kingdom come while she works up a proper murderboner killing shades just so you'll be on hand when it gets to be too much.
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>>171456760
The only disappointing thing about Adam and Eve is that they didn't appear more.
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>>171457475
it always ends like this
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How would 2B react to a random human requesting sexual favors?
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>>171457418
A. Yoko Taro
B. Dude needed citizens to populate his city. He even placed one or 2 here like people having conversations or a group outfront a building like buddies at a bar and one even cross the street.
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>>171457580
Considering they seem to know what it is enough to be embarassed probably get angry at you while 9S stutters and blushes/internally escapes to his 2B folder.
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>>171457418
Same way complete Tower and subtowers appeared instantly out of nowhere. Android bodies lay around everywhere, it isn't hard to gather a few, especially after that whale EMPing whole coastline.
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>>171457480
considering he was supposed to rendezvous with 2B and friends, he should be in the know
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>>171457480
In the years he went on missions? Talking to other androids in their bunker? Mission briefing for the assault? Maybe he looked up A2 after their first meeting in the forest and found her Pearl Harbor file?
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Does Emil only have one set of weapons, I think the stock with fists and the dress module, or does he have another set of weapons that he sells?

There are still some obscure weapons that I have no idea where else to find them. Machine and Emil fists.
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>>171457708
>Same way complete Tower and subtowers appeared instantly out of nowhere

how?

>>171457772
beat Emil for Emil Heads
buy Machine Heads from Pascal
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>>171457772
Machine Fists are bought from Pascal after his memory wipe
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>>171457580
How would you react when god you've been programmed to serve appear before you and asked to bend over?
>>171457734
You are cut from assault unit coms as 9S. There is only you and 21O untill you meet with 2B.
>>171457759
Nice asspulls
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>>171457845
>Nice asspulls
Ok smartass, how does he know 2B's name in the prologue? No one mentions it to him in the game.
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>>171457845
>asspulls

Are you really saying the kid isn't briefed about the mission and just went there? Or he's the only person in the whole of YoRHa that doesn't know about E types?
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Do you guys leave self destruct armed? Or enable is from the menu when you need to use it? I have not come across a situation where I've needed to use it yet. But I'm only 6 hours into the game.
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ending A is so nice, why would I continue?
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>>171458223
Because ending E is a happy ending.

...Of sorts.
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>>171458223
Why would you not finish the game?
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>>171458283
but I can already tell ending A is the happiest its going to get

its only downhill from here
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>Emil is hackable

Wait what
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Does the difficulty affect Steam achievements?
Am I going to lose something if i play on Normal?

Dont get me wrong the game is easy as fuck, but the enemies are just way too fat, they take too long to kill them and sometimes the fight gets tiresome.

Am i losing any achievements if i switch to normal or easy?
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>>171458283
Happy? probably
It's open ended if you ask me.

On hand , they can start over happily on the other they have to live through with the shit that happened.

2B and A2 combining memories, Pascal's memory wipe + village destruction, majority of old androids dead, 9S being crazy. bunker destroyed and truth revealed, etc
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>>171458535
No
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Anybody else had this happen? Just started the game like normal, no reshading or anything. Everything is red and green
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>>171458687
you found the secret Ω ending

congratulations
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>>171458687
Your GPU is dying.
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2B's cleavage window is playing Battlezone
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>>171458317
Not when you realize he's still technically logic virused and that his original personality did in fact die and the Machine 9S is in fact a backup he made just before shit got worse. Its not as punishing a reboot as the Black Box 9S reboot but still he died and the backup is whats left behind. Every time.
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Just remember, the only one of the village robot that isn't dead or mindwiped by the end is that asshole Sartre.

Also that when the father robot went crazy due to the zombie plague the mother robot died futilely trying to protect the child robot, given the positions of their corpses.

And that everything you did in-game was pointless because according to the Emil Heads weapon story the war just starts up again 500 years later.
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>>171459019
>He forgot the one who locked himself inside the house
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>>171447550
He literally wasn't. She was not entitled to his affection just because she really wanted it. Sartre made it clear that he had no interest in his "fans", but they were all obsessive nutjobs who refused to take the hint.

Sartre did nothing wrong.
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>>171459019
even if it's pointless you still have to it
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>>171459019
>the only one of the village robot that isn't dead or mindwiped by the end is that asshole Sartre.
Wrong, the neetbot survives.

>everything you did in-game was pointless because according to the Emil Heads weapon story the war just starts up again 500 years later.
Living is pointless because you'll be dead in 100. years anyway
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>>171458687
so it has come to this
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What weapon do I use as 9S? He just throws his sword around and it's fucking annoying
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>>171459239
That's kind of fucking cool desu
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>>171459297
I'm kinda sad because the game crashed shortly after, but I got a solid couple of minutes of video of wireframe weirdness
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>>171459019
Why should i trust someone who couldn't even remember someone be able to tell time.
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>>171459207
There IS other options.
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>playing on hard with counter chip and a bunch of aggressive heals and defense chips
Holy shit this is the most fun I've had in a very long time.
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>>171459239
>>171458771
>>171458687
>>171459416
>Logic virus is consuming peoplea GPU's
>they're okay with this
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>>171459239
Lay off the E-Drugs for a bit, dude
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PICK ONE (1)

>Jackass
>Commander
>Pascal
>6O
>21O

You will spend the rest of your life with them.
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>>171459689
NO.
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>>171459019
>Emil Heads weapon story the war just starts up again 500 years later.
Where do you get from that the wars breaks out again? All we know is that the machine network is live again and androids still exist.
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It's amazing that one maxed Shockwave chip does more damage than two maxed out Weapon Attack Ups.
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>>171459831
Commander
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Hey guys, about this thing about 2B having to kill 9S more and more times, can you give me some info? How many times? Where is this told? Why?
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>>171459884
Because Yoko Taro feeds on suffering.
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Got a question regarding one of the setting elements revealed near the ending, it's been bugging me since finishing the game.
Who set up the back door to allow the machines access to essentially reset the YoRHa until their next upgrade such that they would never win against the machines? I get that the machines explicitly have this in their interest, but entries from the copied library seem to point toward this as at least in part set up by the human/android side. Maybe I'm missing something here but it could also be just another yet unexplained section.
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>>171459916
finish the game

>>171459884
The network is what makes machines violent.
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>>171459937
But he also likes subverting expectations.
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>>171459831
Jackass for adventures Commander for lazying around and casual sex
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>>171459975
>The network is what makes machines violent.
The network also created robots like Pascal.
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>>171459975
im confused about that too, is it saying that the same scenario has played out multiple times before? I did finish the game btw
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>>171459975
I finished the main endings, A2 says to 9S that 2B is actually 2E (Explaining also the YorHa Betrayers quest I guess?) but I don't get why and if it's shown. I read the novella in the Temple of Sand that shows one time I guess

Also, another thing: Pascal says that when a machine core is destroyed they can replicate it using the same memories but it won't be the same individual.
In Ending E everyone gets resurrected, if you'd say, by the Pods, but aren't they copies? At least for 2B, her black box ceased operation, so she should be a copy, wouldn't she?
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PERVERT !
Do feminists know already?
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>>171460053
What I hate is that Taro decides to make dumb novel/stage play bullshit(not for anyone besides the Japanese as well) and decide it's all canon. Now we sit here with our thumbs up our asses confused even more until someone can source us.
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>>171460094
*I don't get why she had to kill 9S multiple times
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>>171460094
I would take that unique black box 1:1 body case with a grain of salt. You keep switching bodies between descends and vending machines. I think memories is what's the most important, also 9S being wrecked by Eve and splitting between machines.
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>>171460053
Toobs and Nines have always been paired together. Whenever he learns something that he shouldn't, like humanity being dead, Toobs has to kill him so they can reset his data. She is basically his handler.

It's implied by A2's reveal and Toobs' comments/mannerisms throughout the game, but the short story
The Memory Cage makes this clearer.

>>171460094
>same memories
>same personality
>same body
It's sort of like the qunadary of teleportation - if a teleporter vaporizes someone, then recreats them elsewhere, is it the same person or is the original person dead?
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>>171460104
So this is why little bastard was all like "Feel like taking a break?" he just wanted to touch Toobie
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So in in-game terms, each vending machine has a backup Toobs inside it?

Guessing A2 canonically just runs everywhere/does sick boar drifts
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>>171460363
It probably just uses her data to build a Toobs from scratch.
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I think it strips one Toobie for parts and another machine elsewhere assembles Toobie out of spare parts
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>>171439851
>kaine fucking rapes a chick and she has a dick as well
I remember her having a dick but I don't remember when it was said that she raped someone.
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>>171460450
iirc, she never raped anybody, but she did fuck a dead body in a side story.
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>>171460283
>It's sort of like the qunadary of teleportation - if a teleporter vaporizes someone, then recreates them elsewhere, is it the same person or is the original person dead?

My answer to that is: when you move a file it is copied and then the original is deleted. Do you consider that file to be the same? Functionally, yes they are the same file.

It just feels weird to apply digital constraints to what was previously just an organic sense of the human continuity.
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>see a torrent of AJ Applegate cosplay porn for iknowthatgirl
>hope it's 2B
>it's just stupid Cammy
>have a sad cum
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>>171460190
This doesn't really match what Pascal says though, doesn't it? If so then that dialogue portion would be contradictory, since they could actually revive a dead machine just with their memories. I think, logically, that would happen to androids too. I think the teleportation is more of a gimmick, otherwise it would be really easy for them to build things on the surface instead of having people do orbital landings.

>>171460283
Thanks for clearing the 9S/2B thing, I honestly didn't catch upon it until I came here and read about it. It really adds another level to their relationship.
Also yeah, it's a question worth asking. I wouldn't be able to say, but I think it would've been nice if the game touched on this argument more - is conscience, soul, continuous? Maybe if they ever do a DLC that happens after Ending E Taro could touch the matter, with 2B/9S/A2 asking if they're the real themselves or just copies.
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>>171460545
rip anon's cummies
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>>171460526
I've watched a video on quantum teleportation recently that argumented that it's not actually cloning. Now, it's not the same thing, but it's cool thinking about. I would say it depends on what consciousness/self/soul actually is
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>>171460094
>Pascal says that when a machine core is destroyed they can replicate it using the same memories but it won't be the same individual.
Can you remember when he says that? I only remember him talking about transferring machine cores to a new body would destroy their memories.
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>>171460545
Look up Lana Rain 2B nigga
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>>171460878
I think it was in the latter half of the game while talking to A2, probably the quest for the sick machine, she asked him why would she need a replacement part if they could just revive him or something, and he said they could do that but the kid wouldn't be the same, or something like that
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>>171460964
Got all three son.
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>>171461010
wait, there's three? i thought there were only 2
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>>171461010
3rd? Help me out
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>do Abandoned Factory 13-1 run
>dark as shit
>navigation is retarded
>some 99 robots
What do I steal from here?
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>>171460986
Then you're misremebering. According to Pascal during this quest, putting a machine core into a new body comes at cost of their memories, probably because the memory storage is part of their body and not the machine core. That's why it wouldn't be same. Nothing about rebuilding machine cores from memories.
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>>171461109
>>171461117
There's a camshow video as well.

https://mega.nz/#F!VFAHyL6b!XsCd0ps6GZW1YqTXz_HUSA
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>>171461397
Is it porn?
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How do I get to this guy? Can't make it from any of the buildings around it and there's nothing higher that you can get to in order to glide to
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>>171461636
>Can't make it from any of the buildings
Yes you can.

How are so many people having trouble getting to Father Servo?
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>>171461580
aye
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>>171461636
I can't get enough height to get up there, can't even sort of make it and grab the ledge
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>>171461763
R2 > double jump > R2

it's easy nigga
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>>171461763
whoops, meant for >>171461669
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>>171461670
Jezus Christ, I've watched this camwhore plot analisys on yt just yesterday and even enjoyed it. I'm too pure for this shit.
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>>171461397
you're a good guy, you know that? locating links for the other two took way too much effort to find. to actually just provide the link instead of being amongst the many who just say, google it ;) , thanks.

i hope you have a great day and i hope your kindness is returned to you in some form, you deserve it
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>>171461867
of which, og nier or automata?
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>>171461801
Weird, that's what I was doing

Got to him, kung-fu robot is awesome.

Speaking of, how long until I get actual fist weapons?
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>>171462097
Automata. I don't spend time on camwhores, and let's players, seen here for the first time just yesterday, never knew who she was. 'Celebrities' nowadays...
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How do i get to the flower up there?
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>>171462149
a while, i don't remember when exactly but its a long while.

for future reference, there are other movement abilities at your disposal. x -> triangle with give you a launch, r2 + square will give you a lunge/twirl that can be done midair or on the ground, r1 + x will have the pod throw you.
combine all those and you'd be surprised how far you can go while in the air
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>>171461975
give me a link for the other 2
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>>171461249
Oh, I see, then I was wrong, thanks for correcting me.
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>>171462324
I'm uploading them into the same folder, but they'll take a while because they're over 1GB each.
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>>171462232
is that the lunar tear in the desert? root around the caves, they'll lead you there

>>171462212
well was her analysis any good?
but yes, i agree with what i think your sentiment is, its odd to have "internet celebrities" openly doing both porn and maintaining a youtube channel. props to her tho, she's making money and making non porn content that revolves around her own interests
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>>171462639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaRYfg1_ByI
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Who is the best girl that isn't 2B or A2?
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Can love bloom on the battlefield?
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>>171462675
Twins > 6O=Jackass > Commander >= 21O
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>>171462675
21O
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>Emil just started blasting his music durig the DePo cutscene

Fuck I wish I recorded that
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>>171462675
Commander
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>>171462734
Only after murdering everyone.
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>deleted data
>Wanting to play through fists only on hard
>died twice in a row to Engel's overhead smash in the tutorial level because of it's wonky hitbox
Fuck, I did it first time blind too.
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>>171462768
i got u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-87Zcp3hYM
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>>171462942
>Music starts playing
>Damnit!
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>>171462942
>Emil could have easily overloaded the Tower defenses and saved Popola tue trouble
>instead he just zooms around blasting his shop music

What a lad
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Can I just rush through ending b and c? I don't really like playing as 9s it feels like he's too slow.
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>>171463217
Why are you here asking questions when you could be spoiled? Just go play the game.
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Adam doesn't aggro until you attack him
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>>171463508
He does after he stops talking.
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so those aliens, think they'll be in the dlc? or drakengard 4?
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>>171463559
I mean first encounter.
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>>171461230
>Finally done including blinde jumping and bullshit stairs
>go out
>Missile Pod program
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>>171456558
Hi V.V Kovalevsky, a.k.a "Jojo"
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Japanese 9S or English 9S?
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>>171463153
that's what they get for not letting him join the village party
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I played my first playthrough withou any wiki and advice.

So if I skipped Emil's head and a couple of things on route A i am already locked out of them and cant get them on B so i will be locked out of Route E?

Am i supposed to 100% every route I play or will I have another chance to collect them?
Can i get back to Route A without starting an entirely new save file?
Do i get to play Toobs again?
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>>171459285
spear
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>>171464660
You're not permanently locked out of anything. Now stop asking questions, especially ones that might get you spoiled. Go and play the game.
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>ninja porn robots

games these days lol
>>
Does anybody have a link to the original japanese short stories about nier automata characters?

Like the one about 2B fighting a previous personality of 9S
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Are Gestalt Project Notes 1-4 obtainable only during remote playing robotes in factory?
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>That first taste of the Emil bossfights
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How the flying fuck I can get out of Emil's cave? I can take his mask and when I go out there is no way I cun jum the corridor back to the elevator.
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How viable is using Caim's Sword until the end of the game? The way weapon upgrading works in this game is annoying. I'm currently in Chapter 3 Verse XIV and the sword does its job well at the moment, but I don't imagine it'll stay that way in later chapters.
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2B9S CANON
O T P
T
P
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2B is the vanilla playthrough. You can still get wowed by the scenic vistas, the Machine War setting and the neat melee combat. The main characters are nothing special (yet) but there's some gems in the sidequest material.

The 9S part starts dropping lore info on you and I found him quite nice to control when you frequently switch between hacking and spear/bracers.

After that it gets all fucked
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so i finished the storyline. endings A B C G.

what should i do now. get the rest of the endings? should i start a new playthrough or do everything through the chapter select?
Is there any reason to play on Hard/Very Hard?
I did continue the game and it started the game again on normal and all the enemies are level 1 and get 1 shot. i guess i am supposed to play on hard from now on at minimum?

Game was incredible. Thanks bros.
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>>171466401
You CAN make the jump up to the elevator. If needed, do a launcher (jump + heavy attack) to get extra height
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>>171467350
Use chapter select to do ending D, then E. The best is yet to come
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>>171467353
Finally manged after few minutes. What a bullshit it was.
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>>171466048
>encounter at ~55
>hit him with max Yorha Spear charged attack with attack+6 charged attack+6
>0 damage
Levels are a fucking joke.
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>>171467350
Go make the other choice at the end. Now.
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>>171467350
Ending D is unlocked by selecting the other option at the end of C. It continues straight to E from there.
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>>171467427
there's a ramp on the left m8
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three mmos, never fucking daylight. what the fuck.
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>>171467350

Hello

You haven't finished the story

Get the fuck out of here and do that.
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>>171467436
>levels are a joke
>level 99
>kill him in three hits

I seriously hope you didn't mean that
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>>171467573
Being functionally unable to finish the fight below a certain level isn't good design.
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Can you save in second part of Tower? I'm hunting for Archives. Can't believe I missed one box and I will probably have to run from there to the ending.
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>>171467627
It's an RPG dude

oh wait you meant a "joke" as in stupid, I agree with you if that's the case
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>>171467681
I should still be able to do fractional damage to him at a roughly end game level. I think I was only 62 when I finished E.
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>>171467627
It's perfectly fine design if they specifically intended it to be level gateway. Which considering this is a Taro game we're talking about, I wouldn't be surprised if they actively did.

You need to keep in mind that this is a JRPG and not an action game. If something can't be done at a low level, it's probably on purpose and is intended to be late game content.
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>>171467803
If that was the case why would the enemies leading to it only be level 60? You'd have thought the entire area would have been bullshit. At least you could chip down father servo.
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Will we ever get a t-shirt date DLC?
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Ok so uhh

After downloading for game for over 4 days due to horrible internet, I finally booted up the PC version for the first time

Everytime I alt tab the game switches to windowed mode and when I put it on fullscreen it gets ridiculously blurry (like, when you play a game on the wrong resolution), despite being 1920x1080.

Have I done a mistake? How do I fix this shit?
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>>171468023
1080p only works in windowed mode to begin with
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>>171468183
What? Are you for real? How the fuck do I play this shit then? There's not even borderless window.
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>>171468203
Write MASTERRACE in your own faeces onto your monitor and tweet it at Taro so he'll send a friendly reminder to the patch team.
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Should I be concerned about these?
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Is Copied City offcial grinding spot? Enemies just keep respawning.
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>>171468279
nope
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>>171468279
Yes, you'll be fighting them
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>>171468203
Wait for fixes. desu I don't understand how PC players are still surprised about getting screwed by ports of japanese games at launch seeing how often it happens
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>>171468285
Official grinding spot is playing as 9S at the Amusement park, killing every enemy in the front entrance square area besides one, taking over that enemy, then hacking the Bunny Statue machine dude for a million exp
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>>171468356
I wish they actually did make you fight those Emil heads, though some of them would lag the game to hell if they could move
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Oh, man.

Ending E was beautiful, and I relinquished my save data without a second thought. In the grand scheme of things it might not be an entirely positive conclusion, but it's hopeful. That alone is worth something.

I'll gladly play it all again, some day soon. What a game.
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>>171468434
Chapter? 13-1?
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Call me crazy but is 2B's waist smaller than A2's? Or is her leotard corset thing really messing me?
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>>171468534
A2 is wearing some rag so it may be
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>>171468474
Any desu. As long as you're 9S and can dole out enough damage. Preferably at like level 60 or something with max exp gain up obvi
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Well?
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>>171468674
I want to play 2B yes.
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>>171468674
no not really
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How do you taunt?
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>>171469126
A2 hold light attack. Other two mash flashlight.
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>>171469187
Sweet.
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>>171468674
I'm actually thinking about how I want to replay the factory/church level.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12527370/r
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>>171469413
good job dumbass

http://www.strawpoll.me/12527370/
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>>171456520
I wish they left out E for a fully fledged DLC
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>use dress module to remove 2B's skirt, equip no weapons on her as well
>chapter select to control 9S
>can look at her EMBODIMENT all you want with no dumbass camera crap
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>>171456520
It's K actually.
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>>171464353
both are great, but considering the other chars performance, I'd pick japanese any day of the week.
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>>171469603
>I wish they left out E for a fully fledged DLC
It would be a riot.
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>>171456520
there is no "canon", multiple timelines existing are part of the overall metaplot
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I bought myself the Plat trophy, thanks Taro
upload your save to PS+, get the trophies you need, download your save back to get back your money spent
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>>171456914
This has been done a ton of times in sci fi just not in the same way. It's the "X is your enemy, they don't have any feelings/theyre not sentient, do not fall for their tricks" then they meet one and it has feelings/seems intelligent and they start to doubt. Except instead of sympathising with them 9s goes full murdermode.
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>>171462734
#SlayTogetherStayTogether
#TreatYoMan
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>>171469716
I mean not just cut it out and put it as DLC, but expand on it with proper missions, etc. like A/B route
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>>171469795
or you can just use the three saves slot?
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>>171458569
plus the machines are destined to come back as the emil heads says.

but isn't that the 'message' they were going for? even if it's inevitably going to end up bad life is about experiencing the journey in between and all that.
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>>171469795
Kill yourself
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Why do all the machines go nuts immediately after ending A/B even though 9S should be in control of them?
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>>171469862
It's already good enough that E stayed since it open future DLC to things that happens AFTER it not before it.
Besides, Taro said there might not be any DLC since they used up all the funds.
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>>171469903
>use feature provided by the game
>kill yourself
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>>171468279
No. They're memes. Ignore them entirely.
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>>171469947
did you finish the game? A, B, C, D, E? Spoiler territory
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>>171468674
Yes i'd like to kill 2B.
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>>171469984
>>171469984
If I pull out this chip, will I die?
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I'm beginning to become curious about dickgirls, help.
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>just used a diamond Shockwave +3 to fuse with the one from Emils shop
>only realize what happened later when browsing gamefaqs
Where do I go farm chips, 2Bros? Still in route A, if it helps.
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the Wise Machines sidequest kek
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>>171463508
>>171463878
i noticed this too. i hoped if you left it long enough you got an ending but you don't he just stands there. a2 does the same when you meet her, you can walk right up to her and she wont hit you till you hit her.
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>>171470121
Its less gay than straight porn and theres actually strong psychological evidence thats backs up the whole "the dick is what makes it hot" Aspect in a weird and fucked up way.
Tl;dr enjoy it.
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>>171470000
Yes I've gotten ending E.
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How does diamond fusing work? Can you fuse a non-diamond and a diamond and have the result be a diamond?
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>>171463508
>>171463878
>>171470252
If you sit long enough your partner will open up on them.
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>>171470371
Not if you set them to passive
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>>171470371
i wasnt sure if that was inevitable or i had my partner set to aggressive. either way i got nothing for standing around so oh well.
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>>171470325
From what I've read, diamond + non diamond = non
Dia + Dia = dia
(Dia + nondia) + Dia = Dia?
Feel free to correct me
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>>171470325
No. Diamond is THE lowest possible space it can take.
If you shove a diamond cost 4 and a normal cost 5 together the end result will usually be a 5 instead of it being 2 normal cost 5's ending up being 6 so its still economical.
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When does Adam say "Perhaps we're not so different after all?"
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>>171470406
I did. They're pod fired on them both and then they started attacking.
>>171470447
Diamonds just represent the lowest possible cost the chip can have. It won't magically make any non-diamond rolled chip turn into a diamond roll.
Dia+Dia=Dia
NonDia+Dia=NonDia
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Whoops
My finger twitched and I shot Pascal.

Is he coming back or should i load previous save?
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>>171470632
just kill everyone in the village
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>>171470596
I see. Any place to farm Shockwave chips, in any case? I read that the desert is a good place but where exactly? The housing complex?
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Eve is such a little bitch lol

boo hoo your brother died get a grip lmao

fucking retard
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>>171470632
He actually comes back if you kill him during non special moments etc idk
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>>171470632
It's okay, we know you did it on purpose.
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>>171470550
Fucking never and you know it quit asking.
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>>171470550
What was that gauntlet Adam wears on his right arm and why does Eve have a tattoo?
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>>171470672
Anywhere. Just kill shit. deserts a good chipfarm because theres LOTS of enemies in a relatively small area.
Just equip drop+ chips.
>>171470672
>expecting a mentally 5 year old child to just "get over" his first and closest brush with death he'll ever experience
I guess if you're sociopathic or something you could.
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>>171470596
Mine idled for nearly half an hour and didn't aggro.
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>tfw taking on papa servo at sub level 20
>tfw 20 minutes of mashing on each form after the dingo form
>tfw these gold enemies that spawn
I KNOW I SHOULD WAIT UNTIL NG++++ BUT FUCK YOU TARO I AINT TAKIN NONE OF YOUR SHIT
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is there an ending to the Wise Machine quest line?

He just suicides, if I jump down 9S says something like "this is where he killed himself" but there are no items other than a Hijack Boost +6
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>>171470901
There's no ending and it's not a real quest.
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>>171470724
I don't know, that's why I asked. No one answered ever answered before, that's why I kept asking.

Thanks though, I thought I missed a scene or something.
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>>171459224
>Wrong, the neetbot survives
his house is on fire from inside out and the door is still locked

his goose is cooked
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>>171470847
Weird. Mine just opened up within a minute everytime.
Just sort of stood there cause i thought to myself Taro was gonna pull an "oh no you attacked a friendly person! Feel BAD!" Type shit then suddenly podfire from my partner and shit went down.
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>Finished route B
>Menu changes
oh shit i'm so hyped right now
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>>171470817
Oops. That second half was for
>>171470685
>>
Holy crap that speed championship sidequest, I can't even do #2 despite movementspeed chips and a youtube video guide.
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>>171471053
I dunno I did these blind.
Failed first 6 times because I fell off the tree.
Then saw that you can jump up a tree behind the house and skip 99% of platforming.
Second one if you avoid roofs and go around and jump on tree and do it all flawlessly you should be able to beat the sanic.
I messed up a bit and lost to sanic by like 0.3 seconds.
0 movement chips btw since I can't figure out how to change chipsets.
What I've done is failed the run once and then looked around for alternative routes.
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>Looking for Relics in Desert
HELP, I'VE FOUND 3 SO FAR, HOW MANY ARE THERE

THIS IS AWFUL
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>>171471053
Max out speed
Max out evade distance +
Use movement speed salve if you have to.
>>
pcfag here
help
I got carpal in both hands playing this is insanely painful and i've spent past 3 hours dealing with father servo at level 20 and the golden giants next to him.

I can't stop playing what do
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>>171471195
I did it with some shitty speed chips near the start of the game. I probably won with less than a second to spare so it's possible.
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>>171471053
On the third one I did it first time as 9S, I dunno. I just jumped off the roof and pod hovered down and spammed the dash instead of running with a speed salve.
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I dont know if it is a bug but the gold tank exploded without me attacking him and i got the Machine Core is this normal?
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>>171471236
Buy a controller ffs
Theres a lot of games that are an exquisite form of rape to play on keyboard mouse. Like literally everyting that involves 3rd person view,
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>>171471301
I think it's something to do with killing the actual sibling robot first, I noticed one of the armored arm goliaths died of it's own accord in the first encounter.
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I didn't understand one thing, guys.
Why is there an "E" in the ending list on pic, if after it the saved game is removing? How did this happen?
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>>171471236
A. Controller
B. Go back in time and tell your past-self not to M&KB
C. Do B but give yourself better genetics
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>>171471301
It spawns with 1 hp and I killed it with golden stumpy's explosion.
>>
Help me out guys, I need to play a RPG but the story and the music has to be good, should I purchase Nier Automata ?
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>>171471053
>>171471153
>>171471195
>>171471254
>>171471273
Nevermind after bitching about it here, I got it like three tries later. 3rd one was pretty easy. Only struggled with 2nd.
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>>171471324
i am on a controller ds4 even.

Also during fishing in sewers I noticed that the time it takes to turn the light on and off is as long as the sound when you click the joystick
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>>171471365
I didnt kill any of them i just came there he exploded and the little one screamed that i killed him.
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>>171471459
lucky you I had to spend 20 minutes whittling their hp bars down one by one
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>>171471436
No. Buy a ps3 and buy nier
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>>171471517
>not just hacking them
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>>171471436
Automata is not an RPG, but it has a godly OST and an incredibly good story
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>>171471425
you can get ending E without deleting your save anon
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thank you father servo truly an enlightening exercise
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>>171471637
first playthrough level 19 or something.
Suck it.
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>>171471698
>Automata is not an RPG
You wot, it's a bloody action JRPG or are you gonna go and tell me that souls clones aren't RPGs either?
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>>171471839
I fought one for 20 minutes on my first playthrough as well

never again
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>>171471848
he probably doesn't consider real time combat RPGs to be RPGs
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>Play on Hard
>Mob enemies are so fat combat becomes tiresome
>Play on medium
>Bosses die before i get wamed up
>Gameplay isnt CUHRAYZEE enough, 9s isnt cuhrayzee at all
Why Platinum? You're better than this.
I waited for the game for years expecting Vanquish May Cry Revengeance
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>>171471705
Please, tell me how it can be done?
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>>171471941
you are given an option, just don't say yes to help other people
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>>171471941
say no
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>>171471919
I did hard on route A kek, then I just toned it down to medium on second+ playthrough since 1hko really sucks sometimes
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>>171471941
By being a terrible person.
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>>171471941
>do you want to delete your save yes/no
>>no
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>>171471908
I killed 2 of those gold groups in the A playthrough. FUCK
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>>171472095
Same here.
Except i died like 2 times on entire playthrough except for side scrolling in first mission i felt like the game is EASY as fuck but the enemies just take way too much time to kill
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>>171471919
dual wield small swords and play very hard, cuhrayzee restored
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>>171471985
>>171472002
>>171472106
>>171472117
Got it. Thanks, guys.
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>>171471919
Because that's probably Taro's biggest mistake. Not utilizing Platinum to their greatest is a waste just so "anyone can play this game."
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>>171472410
Not a mistake if you want Nier series to continue
>>
You may choose one character to give a happy ending to

>Emil
>Pascal
>Popola and Devola
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I LOVE 2B!
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>>171472509
DevPop. Pascal is a recurrence and so will happen again one day and Emil will up and forget his shit in 3 iterations so a happy/sad ending will have zero impact on him.
DevPop are the last of their kind and have suffered enough.
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>>171472410
it's weird that they chose to do that because there's already babby mode in the game

hopefully with DoD5 since that has less RPG elements
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>>171472509
What's hard is between Emil and Pascal. I don't know
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>>171472509
Hard choice, goddamn.
I think I'd say Pascal, it pained me so fucking much how it ends in Route C.
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>>171472567
Wrong. That's sexual attraction. You can literally take some drugs with the freaks out in the desert to feel the same
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HOLY SHIT NIGGA WHAT
Why nobody told me 9S can do this?
It makes overworld exploration like 10 times funnier.
Also hot damn his charged attacks are strong as hell.
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>>171472509
Tough choice between Emil and Twins
Pascal already got his by wiping his memory.

Odd: Emil
Even: Twins
>>
Hmm did I miss anything in A playthru by not exploring the canyon?
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>>171471919
>>Gameplay isnt CUHRAYZEE enough
>Why Platinum? You're better than this.
How many times were you told "This isn't a Platinum action game, it's a JRPG". How many times did you ignore it?
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>>171471053
if you're like me, the game glitches after you visit the resistance base and allows you to move during the speech
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>>171472726
it also makes overworld exploration like 10 times slower
>>
>COME, 2B!
>[End of the Unknown starts playing loudly]

honestly, this moment was hype as fuck but no one ever talks about it, or the rest of route A for that matter
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>>171472735

There's a quest, a shop and a weapon. Also a high level enemy you're better off fighting on playtrhough 2.
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>>171472642
>>171472476
Precisely. This game should've been what it should've been aka Platinum quality because babby mode chips would solve the problem of difficulty. If this game was max Platinum and Taro quality, latter of which it is, this game could've highly appealed even more to the CUHRAZY fuckers out there. Instead we just get basic crazy mechanics(that I still love) with everything else at the top of the line which is a shame. Truly a Nier successor.
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>>171472792
I assume you're talking about in the silicon city? Yeah that was high quality shit. Probably the best point of that playthrough
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>>171472861
If you're a real tough dude you must beat that Goliath in Route A (and waste 40 minutes)
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12562850
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>>171472728
>people still think memory wipe is a good choice despite it objectively being the worst and a literal living hell
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>>171472861
I see. Yeah, I turned around when I was like level 10 and they were level 27 dudes just rushing the elevator door.
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is there a point to get all the random non important endings?
like eating the fish or removing the chip i just tried because i could but is there a trohpy or something?
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>>171472792
>the moment he shows captured 9S
>vocals hit
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>>171472979
Is it an electrified goliath? cause fuck that if yes.
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>>171472509

The PopDev twins. Nice how they turned around from the backstabbing whores they were in NieR
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>>171472867
Because its a Taro Game, not a Platinum game.
They literally told us 80 fucking times its a JRPG. NOT a platinum game.
Did you listen to this at all? No.
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>>171472792
>>>/wsg/1597892
the spaceship was cooler desu
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>>171472983
Given between three choices being
1) Memory wipe
2) Kill him with your hands
3) Abandon and let him kill himself

Letting him leave and start over as a blank slate was for the better.
Who knows, he may start up another village.
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>>171473119
without recollection of previous events he would be dammed to suffer the same fate until theres noone left to wipe his memories
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>>171473101
Yeah a nier successor
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>>171473119
He will. Its his designed purpose.
He'll also learn what a core is.
Which means he'll know what he sold you.
Which will lead to questions with no real answers.

You're just setting him up for a much more tragic option 3 with a fuse and more casualties with at least twice the suffering.
Either off him or let him do it. Its more humane.
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>>171472983
It's not a living hell, he didn't remember anything, he even thought the children's core were junk. It would be way worse to keep living with those memories.

>>171473094
It's a special goliath pertaining to a side-quest, but yeah. I beat him and Father Servo's final battle in Route A and realized later that I was dumb in wasting so much time by beating them underleveled. Though after Route A I was so overpowered everything became pretty easy.
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Anything happens in the "4th playthrough"? Or should I do chapter select to finish the other endings?
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>>171473380
Chapter select.
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>>171456402
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>>171473304
Form of escapism though. Now it's a matter of if you think escapism is bad or not.
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Where do I get pearls? I just got a sword from 6O and a lance from killing rogue YoRHa units that use those, I noticed that the rusted chunks (?) drop from enemies sometimes.
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>>171473206
Who's to say he will suffer til eternity.
Still by wiping his memory, his only recollection will be that he was a fresh unit out of the factory.

>>171473276
Killing him outright and leaving him to kill himself isn't even a humane thing to do.
Even if he does discover that he was selling cores, there's so much lying of it around that it's hard to tell if the ones he sold belonged to his former villager or those rusting pieces of junk littered all throughout NieR: A2s map
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>>171473405
Ok, is there any point in doing this playthrough? It's the same beginning as route A.
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>>171473467

Random drop at the Flooded Coastline
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>>171473467
buy them from carnivalbro
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When can I get some combat bracers? I just finished Flooded City with most of the available sidequests done and I haven't found a single pair.
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>>171473467
You can get some early by doing Resistance Disappearance quest. I know they can be farmed out in the flooded city, but I know I got more pearls sooner than that. Just can't remember.
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>>171473304
Thats just it.
The other options he DOESN'T live with those memories.
The wipe option means he'll just pick up with village making which is just a slow burn till he recognized the core and parts he sold as the characters the network spews out in the previous iterations.
You're just making him build a happy life only for it to shatter tragically again at some point and the new villagers suffer along with it.

But here. Lets use an example.

Say i make you kill your family then wipe your memory of it and ressurect them also wiped of this event.
Now i do that to you every day.
One day i say fuck it and let the world keep spinning for you to just live a normal life.

Am i an evil person for this? Did you not suffer because of this? Did the wipe actually justify itself?
Now imagine i left JUST enough evidence for you all to piece this shit together somewhat eventually.

Its THE worst choice objectively and subjectively.
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Where the hell can I find simple gadgets?
Is there a locked chest anywhere that has them?
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>>171473476
He'll know exactly where its from since its inside his village.
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>>171473628
You're fucked. Grind the Forest King's crib. Jump down and teleport from the bottom point to the royal chamber point to reload the item drop spot. Have fun
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>This discussion pleases Taro
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>>171473713
he doesnt know its his village. even his books burned out, there would be nothing left to read or write
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EVERY DAY'S A SALE
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>>171473713
He doesn't even know it's his village after memory wipe.all he knew is that he arrived there and found a bunch of junk lying around.
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>>171472792
Yeah that was definitely the highlight of Route A for me, probably because it's one of the few bosses you fight that aren't big machines and that isn't stuck on a shitty 2D plane.

I really wish the final fight against A2 wasn't a shitty sidescroller, especially since the final fight against 9S isn't and is a lot more fun.
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Best place to get Memory Alloy?
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>>171473672
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hacking
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>>171473894
Robo vagina with AAAAAAAAAAAAA
One where you fight Adam the first time
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>>171473919
it's hacking with a custom gui that's all
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>>171473779
The issue is he'll start a new one up. The network purposely made him AND the villagers so they'll be there too.
He'll recognize them and the new village to be the same burned out village and corpses he left behind.
Before that he'll learn what a core is and that he sold a childs soul to someone to add the cherry ontop.
You're just setting up delayes nutkicks but now when he breaks down and kills himself the new victims will be the entire and now aimless village.
You're basically torturing him for the next longwhile instead of ending it entirely and letting the network spew out a truly blank one.
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>>171473605
Oh yeah, the choice itself is another matter. The moment is probably even worse than both results.

>>171473441
I don't really get what you mean, we don't know if he actually will start the village again, as he did it after what he suffered in the previous machine wars, but even if he did, he can't have any recollection of who he was before or what he did.
It's certainly tragic to a bystander like the player, even more so if something like that happens again, but it would be the first time again for him.
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>>171473919
what?
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>>171473894
Uhh I think Emil sells it.

>>171473862
That's another issue with this game too: there's no fight where you're like everything that has happened was meant for this. And pretty much every boss fight was underwhelming as fuck
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2B SFM?
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>>171474009
Even with guaranteed suffering far into the future, that does justify killing him or having him kill himself.
By the time he remembers everything, he would have established a new village with new villagers and decide that killing himself wouldn't be that useful,
Heck with old memories resurfacing, he'll try to find ways to avert the same tragedy from happening again.
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>>171474053
go trhu the gate they were guarding
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>>171474181
Yeah, I agree, it would've been so incredibly cool to have a fight like that. Though it's more than made up in my opinion, for example the final section of the tower, though the two balls boss was pretty shitty it was cool as hell switching between 9S and A2 intermittently
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>>171474242
sounds like 9S

>>171474276
not when she's raping me in the corner
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>>171474030
Its his designed purpose from the network. He'll make another village and the original cast will be made again cause its required material as per the programming. The Machine War merely catalyzed this but if you recall no one in the village actually remembers WHY they severed themselves only pascal remembers most of it and even then he admits he doesn't entirely know either so he just assumes.
Someday he'll look at his new village and he'll see how every villager looks like the corpses he sold but even before that he'll find out what a core is and that he sold one he salvaged from a childs corpse. Its cruelty all the way its just delayed.
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>>171474242
The issue with that is machines like him aren't actually evolving. They're running programs N2 put into place for random variables to facilitate the networks evolution which they're no longer a part of. They don't even realize this. If he commits suicide now he'll do it later to as its just his rigid character trait. Don't mistake this for them being machines either they have a core and thus a soul and personality they just aren't capable of internal growth.
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>>171474350
>he'll see how every villager looks like the corpses he sold
There isn't much difference between how the machines in Pascal's village and those outside look.
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>>171474496
What's an N2?
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Is there any way to make the Scanner set to toggle instead of hold?
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>>171474496
but the Terminals already fucked off to space right?
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>>171458556
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>>171474573
Why the actual fuck are you in the thread if you haven't beaten the game?
>>171474551
Exact ratios of bots/types and paintjobs.
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I think I'm burning out. Doing 100% is a bitch, especially with rare enemies.
How do I make Emil sell weapons?
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In Chapter Select it says I'm missing quest that I want to complete but I don't see any red dot. The menu says I've done 95%. What do?
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>>171474615
they still left their shit running enough that a new fully functional network starts up 500ish years in the future. I did say "eventually" not "soon" for suffering. Due to pascals unique nature as a bot this won't dull the edge either.
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>>171474670
you pray to jesus.
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>>171474651
I have beaten the game (Ending E). I don't know what an N2 is, I might have missed that term specifically or something I don't know.
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So I know the soundtrack comes out on the 29th, but does anyone know if there is a torrent or something of the game rip audio?
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the fact that Pascal shows up in the ending while the Pods give their whole speech about life makes it clear to me what the right choice was
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>>171474846
The Not-Manah clone made using Niers Gestalt info who purposefully made evolutionary dead-ends and the like such as pascal and his villagers to create variables that the actual network can spitball at and force evolution off of.
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>>171474242
i agree thats the least terrible choice but its still a terrible choice.

my opinion is that pascal needed a little more strenght to carry on and not repeat his mistakes. he might as well be the last machine thats sane alive.
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>>171474350
Why would you say it's his designated purpose? I don't remember anywhere where this is mentioned. Also, he obviously realizes that the parts he took where from dead machines, why would he feel remorse if he didn't know them? There isn't anything different from the kid machines and the various hostile machines in the Ruined City too.
I don't get why you think he'll realize those parts where kids he was attached to once or even you're so sure he'll rebuild the village.
I mean, it could happen, but it's not like he's still the exact same Pascal as before, he even said in the sidequest of the sick machine that it's the memories that makes an individual machine (when he talks to A2 about why they don't just move the core to a new body).
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>>171474962
There's A2, 2B, and 9S to support him now.
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>>171474930
Okay I definitely don't remember seeing anything like that. Then again I only got like 5 Gestalt Project reports.
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Do Charge attack chips work with 9S' light charge attacks or only limited to 2B's spear/large sword ones?
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>>171474872
the pods could very much be wrong as well. They only VERY recently formed their own Id and Ego and started off life from an outsiders view. The Ins-&-Outs of life could still be elusive to them and they only brought back versions that happened before their epiphanies so they very well could just fall back into old ruts now that everything that catalyzed the changes is gone.
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>>171475056
u can charge attack anything bub
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>>171474496
the machines are Emil

they copy humans instinctively for a reason
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>>171475063
yes anon that is the point of the ending, no one knows what will happen
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>Pod 042
>Pod 153

Zero One Two Three Four Five
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>>171475107
How about no?
It has been explicitly stated that the machines were made by ayys and to add insult to injury made it to look like him.
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>>171475038
Its the little girl in the red dress.
I only have the Manah'd version saved on my phone so the colors are off but this character.
>>171474986
Because he's actually still programmed. He's not deshackled as he thought he was by being severed from the network. Please see
>>171474496
He's still leashed so to speak and incapable of self-growth as are all the villagers.
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>>171475167
point being?
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>>171475167
When you realize that the Units they are assigned to are a mix and mash up of the the numbers

>>171475242
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>>171475107
Nah m8. They were made to look like him though as a huge middle finger even if he's too innocent to notice.
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>>171474765
No conditions to fulfill? Just roll gods?
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God what have i done... did Mission [F]ailed ending on my 2nd playthrough...
now i have to do this shit ALL over...
WHY DID I DO THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171475242
I don't remember those being referred to as N2, I thought they were called Concepts or something.
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>>171475404
the only rule it seems his shop has is it won't be the last one that it was. never got 2 of the same shop in a row.
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>>171475242
Oh right, I read the comments, I still haven't 100% so I miss some reports and stuff (Are those thing told in the reports?)

So are all the villagers actually still connected to the network? That would explain how the virus got in.
Then I guess the choice takes another weight.
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>>171470972

He's alive.

If you approach his house, despite it being set on fire in the rampage, there's the little white icon on the radar that denotes an NPC. In fact if you attack you'll launch your weapon through the door and kill him instantly.

So being a shut-in saved his life.
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>>171475452
Nah. They're made using original Niers Gestalt info from the acquired Gestalt servers.
They're the second iteration of that Nier hence N2. Though overall they're the 4th Nier to be made.
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>>171458771
Hypothesis: Logic Virus has infected Unit 171458771A's system. Application of Logic Vaccine and Visual cure recommended. Deletion and reboot of system may be required, or the downgrade of unit 171458771A's visual drivers.
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>>171475616
nowhere does it says the N in N2 stands for Nier
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>>171475472
Nah. They're severed but programed before that to be a set random variable that will eventually lead to an influence of the network which will force the network to evolve.
They're "free" so to speak but they're actually following a set routine of "make village, live in village, attempt to broker peace."
The virus got in cause shit was just being blasted out with power.
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>>171475616
Where are you guys getting all this info? I completed the main endings and I haven't read anything about this
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>>171475616
Where the fuck did you pull this out from?
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Finally went down the elevator in the shopping center.

>mfw
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>>171475710
Its not stated.
Just like the pods being 1,2,3,4,5 aren't or shit like that. Its just one of those Meta-Eggs Taro enjoys.
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>>171475762

Archives.
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>>171475762
Archives
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>>171475762
Archives.
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>>171475762
>>171475817
Archives.
The absorbed Gestalt servers are the "old network" the machines absorbed so the "shapes" they found and put in cores are actual human souls.
Its why the androids being at war with then is ironic on multiple levels.
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>>171475828
>Pods named after Intoners

that's stretching it m8, they don't have anything in common

I can accept how everything originates from the flower but some of the newer stuff these past few days are way too farfetched
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>Virtuous weapons description
>Cruel weapons description
>they are basically trademark 2B/9S weapons
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>>171475854
i don't see Nier in there
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>>171476009
I'm not saying its 100% canon or even has actual impact on the story or related like suddnly the pods will grow a flower.
Taro just throws shit like that in for funsies just like the N2 program resembles Manah but more than not, outside some insane twist we haven't experienced yet, has zero bearing or relation to the story.
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>>171476127
it says the Terminals have the data on the original Gestalt if you scroll up

what do they do with it? no one knows
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>>171476037
Thats because its their stories. 2B finally found a way to always be with 9S even if her constant secret happiness is also vastly more painful for both of them.
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>>171476009
Like how 153 equals to 9 if you add them or how 042 becomes A2 in l33tspeak

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They had it coming.
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>>171476189
Its the "shapes" they incorporated for forced evolution.
when you kill a machine with a core you're killing someones soul. Reminder:YoRHa androids have machines cores and that choice is doubly ironic.
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>>171476303
I don't remember this in the report?
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>>171476303
what does the picture book say about the shapes they found. i'm fully with you on this but it didn't occur to me at all that the shapes might be souls and i'm not sure if im just really stupid and they hinted at this or you have to do some serious thinking to realise it.
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>>171476407
ARCHIVES.
READ.
THEM.

Honestly at this point it should be in the OP or something cause you miss out on a LOT of shit without all the supplementary info.
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>>171476507
I have, I don't remember this one. Which is this from?
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>>171476439
Without the supplementary info its safe to assume machines pick up different purposes to continue living.
Hence "every shape is different" and them incorporating said shapes.
Its not insanely serious thinking i'd say just more thinking than the average game expects.
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so I'm on newgame+ and I'm in the arena where you fight Adam in the desert and theres a fuckload of machines that keep popping out of the ground, is there a point to this other than farming or is there a reward after a few waves, i think i've done 4 waves so far.
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>>171475824
Now complete Gathering Keepsakes for pure suffering.
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>>171476712
I'm tired as hell but its one of the more recent ones. Honestly i'm planning on rereading them all again just so i can answer your exact question when it pops up.
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>>171476727
I figured the shapes were reasons to live because it makes it pretty clear that eves treasure is literally adam but I just never made a connection with the human souls thing for some reason.
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>>171476763
>newgame+
What the fuck is newgame+? Post wipe run?
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Anyone has a clear, close up, or high-res pic of the Cruel Oath's hilt and blade?
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>>171476843
Just to be clear, I'm asking about how Shadowlord's data was used by the Terminals. The only entry that brought that up said data was Jackass' final report and it doesn't say anything else other than the fact that the data is there, which is why I'm confused.
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>>171476926
the second runthrough of the game, I wasnt sure how to name it, its when you play as 9S
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Anyone modded in the FFXV swords on pc? Also are they any good?
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>>171459285
I liked fists the most. Their charge attack does multiple hits
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>>171477032
You mean run through the prologue, m8.
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>>171476923
I honestly think its built that way.
Its so newcomers to the series can assume that and not feel out of the loop whereas super autists like me who read and reread the supplementary written shit can go "ooo! Ooo! Thats the Gestalt info from the absorbed Gestalt servers!" as we jump up and down getting hyped.
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>>171476987
I understand. I'm just running off 8 hours of sleep between st.patricks day, yesterday, and now and honestly can't say exactly where just that its in the archives somewhere.
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>>171477129
youre missing the point of my question, is there anything to the desert arena where the machines pop out of the ground or is it just farming battle for after you've finished ending A?
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Just killed Adam and am back at the camp. Which sword should I buy? Already bought the 2 hander
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>>171476439
Isn't that picture book talking about Beepy?
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>>171477261
no it's just a farm, same with where you fought Adam the final time
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>>171477298
Buy all weapons.
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>>171477298
buy all of them, if you cant afford them go fishing a bit.

>>171477404
thank you, now I don't have to keep beating these retards in this sandy pit.
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just finished my first playthrough, when do I stop fucking playing as 9S
this is awful
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>>171477474
when u beat the game again. fist weapons make it slightly less bad
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>>171477259
Or, and don't hate me if i'm wrong here, it could also be partly related to Fire of Prometheus.
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>>171477561
>have to play through NG+ as 9Shota
time to uninstall
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>>171477468
How do I catch fish? The lake is like 10cm deep
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>>171477298
the axe you find somewhere is great.
I just run with prologue set since they're basically ranged weapons
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>spend half an hour comparing my enemy intel with wiki
>it will take few hours to hit that fucking 95-100%
>there is still fishing, Pod upgrades and fuckload weapons to upgrade
On a bright side I'm done with reports and only have weapons from Emil left. Why no other game made me feel this invoved in completion?
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>>171477629
get fishing plug in from shop-
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>>171477704
because the data is interesting to read
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>>171477629
I guess they are all lying on their sides while swimming, buy a fishing chip then any water becomes fishable for fuck knows why.
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>>171477627
:(
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>>171475304
The intoners from Drakengard 3.
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>>171477474
>not liking to throw charged javelins for entire enemy lifebars
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>>171477636
Can't seem to get into this game for some reason. Super shit at bullet hell and the enemies seem to, you know, fuck with me and I can't get down with the dodges which seems to be the basis of good combat in this game
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>>171477814
point being?
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>>171477751
It's more like I want to squeeze everything I can from it. Not trophies, that 100% notification in menu like in 'good old days'. Only thing I regret is playing on normal. Before I realized my mistake it was too late.
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>A2 lacks charged light attacks
But i love them.
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>>171478018
don't break too quickly now
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>>171478018
Equip that Taunt Up chip, go B mode and cheer up.
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>>171477887
>can't get down with the dodges
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>>171478104
I want to fuck A2
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I don't know why everyone hates playing as Nines. I enjoyed playing as him.
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>>171478312
It's a meme you dip.
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>>171471919
It's a goddamned JRPG, the hell did you expect.
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>>171478312
I miss my second weapon
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>>171478248
Its confusing. My brain is slow processing information. Kinda sad because I looked forwards to this game and now I can barely play it ;_;
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>>171478312
Same here. I think most people who dislike him just tried to go with the hacking through the entire game or something. I rather liked his moves. His charged light attacks are quite possibly the single best attacks in the game.
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>>171477887
i trick to dealing with most of the bullet hell stuff is buy the shockwave upgrade that makes you shoot energy beams out of your weapons, that prevents a lot of shots from getting to you, in the air combat spots just hold down the shoot button while mashing light attack.
if youre having troble with dodging just mash it when you think youre going to get hit and you should twirl out of the way.
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>>171478312
Because he's just an objectively worse version of 2B unless you want to play the hacking minigame constantly. They should have made the hijacking thing not need sneaking and emphasize playing as the different machines to fight.
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A2 is 100% cuter than 2B
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>>171478404
9S is made for mid-combo weapon switches.
>spear launcher picks entire group of enemies
>swap to fists for multihit juggle
>swap to spear for few more aerial hits then finisher
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>>171478495
that would have been a good idea.
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>>171478429
Shockwave sounds like a good idea. idk its just I am hitting them and they are being hit but I can't really follow what they're doing because there's too much going on in the foreground?
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>>171478312
I enjoyed palying him in main game but having to run post game with him exclusively, and not as A2 everywhere because lollockedboxes is starting to piss me off
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>>171478564
which spear you using bub?
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>>171478590
yeah i have that problem too sometimes, try angle the camera a little differently, also i find that just mashing the dodge button also helps me figure out where i am if i lose track on screen.
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I like how nobody announced 'official' chip configuration and I can bet there are no people in this thread running with exactly the same settings.
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>>171478727
Type-4O lance at the moment for delicious stun up.
Also don't forget about spear charge attacks, that shit can murder enemies far past lock-on distance with a single throw as its attack multiplier is crazy with some attack chips and upgraded weapons.
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>>171478818
i'd say a few people have similar chip layouts.
personally I dont even want to start figuring that shit out because its a million slivers to sort and minmax and my attention span isnt that great.
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Guys i'm on 9S playthrough right now and i wanna know... do i have to do those fucking side quests again?
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>>171479014
No.
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>>171478964
what?
it's piss easy, just get the things you want.
I want anti combo, item discovery, healing from dealing damage and kills and whats left over is movement speed
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>>171479014
no. you also didnt NEED to do them on 2Bs playthrough ya doofus
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>>171479014

No. Any quests you cleared as 2B stay that way.
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>>171479014
Only the missions you have left as 2B and some new ones dor B route. Now get out because spoilers.
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>>171476006
Ah, I know that the androids were supposedly based on real people's thoughts and memories, but I didn't realize that the treasured shapes they were talking about with the machines might imply that they were also all based on individual gestalts.
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what is best weapon?
i need something for dps to deal with father servo and other superhigh hp enemies.
Or should I just grind the arena?
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>>171479083
i mean that i would sit autistically minmaxing the everloving shit out of it and make minimal progress on the game if i went and did it myself.
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>>171478818
>>171478964
I guarantee you everyone who's got it is wearing the auto item pick up chip.
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>>171478312
Is it just me or is 9S's base move speed and evade distance a bit lower than 2B's?
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>>171479260
>what is best weapon?
Hacking, Taunt up + taunt + berserk + anything
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>>171479480
shit i forgot to put that on.
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Anyone have the Commander KFC screencap?
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>>171479260
>what is best weapon?
Hacking.
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>>171479585
first playthrough
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>>171479485
No, i didn't feel any difference. Maybe you've removed movement speed chips?
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>>171479609
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>>171479485
I felt the same way.
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having a dilemma right now, i manage to beat the game and got all the trophies, but should i keep the game or sell it?
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one thing that i didnt even think about until fighting them right now, how the fuck did the giant saw arm fuckers get into the city without knocking over buildings?
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Wow, are you fucking serious right now? I already listened to this shit once that's why I said SKIP IT

Hold O to SKIP

FAGGOTS

I'm taking off my headphones and waiting until it's over.
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>>171479831
It was same for me and I decided to keep it for sentimental value and possible DLC.
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>wonder why all trademark 9S' weapons are "Cruel"
>get to route C
Jesus.
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IT'S TIME YOU MASSIVE

>http://www.strawpoll.me/12563546
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12563546
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12563546
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12563546
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>>171479831
Keep it. We know DLC of some sort is coming.
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oh Steam
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I'm 19 hours in and still 2B, about to do the missile supply quest which afaik is a big deal quest.

Am I moving particularly slowly? I'd heard the first playthru to ending A was usually around 12 or 13 hours in.

I really like the game and story (and i did play nier) but im not really feeling particularly attached to anyone, figuring that's just hecause i got a ways to go.

Im worried I'm missing out on story info though; my archive is at 1% and has only one entry in it. What expands this?
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>>171480537
You could reach that point in 6 hours or less if you tried, it took me around 25 hours but I did dumb shit like walk in the Bunker and Resistance Camp instead of run.
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>>171480537
I'm 19 hours in and just discovered aliens for first time.
10 of these hours were spent beating the ever loving shit out of papa servo
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>>171458350

He's able to interface with machines as he demonstrates when he brainscans you the first time you meet him at his shop

That means it goes both ways
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SFM porn when?
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>>171480878
Already out.
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Just got to the flooded city, level 23.

There's two level 25 machines who i can barely put a dent in. Even the small guy, i'm comboing and dumping podlasers into him and it's barely doing chip damage.

There's an jdentical machine on the otber side of the bridge who's level 22 and dies in 3-5 hits.

Does the first enemy being 2 levels above me really make that much of a difference in damage, or is something weird going on
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>All these faps to Kaine
>No love for 6O and 21O
>No love for A2

EXPLAIN YOUSELVES.
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>>171466570

You're gonna want to upgrade pretty soon, that sword is decent but garbage for later in the game
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What do you guys think of my cute wife?
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>>171481113
Would work under her. Being messy, lazy fuck in private is cute af.
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>>171470325

Yes, but only early chip levels will that work

A 4 diamond and a 5 cost will equal a 5 diamond +1, a 5 diamond +1 and a 6 +1 will equal a 6 diamond +2, but once you reach that point you must fuse diamonds to get the minimum increase in space cost and keep it diamonds
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Does Emi Evans have a band or something? Need more vocals stuff by her
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>>171481013
Link
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They should've gave 2B some bullshit mechanic where only she could reach certain areas where chests are as opposed to 9S hacking chests. Problem that arises is that they would give her some bullshit like a triple jump only she can use to get to an area but this would ruin the whole companion following you everywhere thing.

What they should've did honestly was just give you some bullshit when you get all the endings that allowed you to play as 2B but be able to hack chests with 9S just because.
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>>171481080
Those ones are Gold machines and have their own sort of mini-story.
You'll see more of them eventually but they are sponges.
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>>171479485
You're right. His evade distance is like half of 2B's but looks visibly faster because of that. His running speed is the same though.
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>>171470596
>Diamond chip math.

Not that simple.
There is a margin of possible space usage fro a given chip, and the lowest being diamond.
When you fuse though, you can have a diamond chip and a non-diamond chip, but only of the 2nd lowest usage value, fuse to make a diamond chip of the next tier.

There is a margin of flexibility, but it's strict.
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>>171481312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpI-KeK-PQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYQrxnXD9zo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4yztyZPcyw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NMYWb1iGeM
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I took a bunch of work off to play this game and it has been a thing of beauty

any neets reading this, never work, you die if you work
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>>171481396
I'm pissed that you can't hack boxes with a pod as A2 after you have access to chapter select. From plot standpoint it would be logical.
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>>171481535

>When you fuse though, you can have a diamond chip and a non-diamond chip, but only of the 2nd lowest usage value, fuse to make a diamond chip of the next tier.

That only works up to +2 chips anyways. At +2 and higher levels you MUST fuse diamond chips to get higher level diamond chips.
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>>171470849
Get to ~lvl40 or higher and you can actually take the gold enemies on the A route, but one group of them, in the desert housing, never spawned for me until i was playing as 9S.

You can totally do all of Father Servo by level 30+, it just takes a little patience whittling him down.
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I can understand most of the message Yoko Taro presented in Automata, but I can't understand what he's trying to say in the Adam/9S converstaion.

Adam keeps talking about hatred within 9S, as if hatred is somehow a big part of humanity. Yoko Taro also said that humanity can't meet a happy ending, because we can't learn to stop killing each other for 2000 years.

However, in my opinion, the conflict between human is more about we care more about ourselves and caring less about the others (selfishness and lack of empathy), not because we have some deep-rooted hatred against people from the other groups.

Can someone explain what's the message behind this?
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>>171481590
Ah, I didn't realize it was her in Nameless Song. Glad she's got to shine in some other games.
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>tfw want to learn to use counter chip
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>>171481946

It's just like you practiced in MGR, anon
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>>171481853
I got the last one to go for father servo, just need to find all the parts.
I bought small melee damage+'s.
It took 30 of them to beat goliath servo.
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Just stopping by to uhh, let you guys know this is the best song in the entire series.

https://youtu.be/dNKWy6RVRhA
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>>171479831
Did you delete your save?
You've had your catharsis, time to inflict the suffering onto someone else.
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>>171481113
A total slave driver
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>>171481080
You kill them with hacking on your second playthrough as 9s
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>>171482009
I haven't touched it since jpn release day but I recall it not being as auto piloty like mgr's. Am I right? because the whole mechanic was built for mgr so it had so much input leniency.
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>>171481871
He doesn't care about groups he cares about individuals.
Adams saying each individual human is capable of, and usually follows through, great selfishness at the cost of others.
Conflict is a nice example as we do so in some form everyday whether we realize it or not we subsist on harm.
Hatred is also an aspect of this.

Ex: Ending E will NEVER happen. Not because its impossible but because humanity as a whole has too many cupidinous individuals to ever feasibly expect every single member to give up their own selfishness and help everyone else.

Violence, greed, self-centeredness, anger, etc that adams getting at all come down to the individual being an active detractment from the possible whole.
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>>171459831
Commander
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how do I do fishing? my pod just sits there doing nothing
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>>171482476
wait for it to dunk
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>>171459831
Commander but only because she seems like the lazy type where you do that slow roll from couchsex to bed sex to lazy napping on days off and jackass seems like the kind of person who spends their day off doing shit they love even if that means more work than your actual work.
Trust me, explosives are fun as hell but actual prep and setup are nutcrushing amounts of work unless you're suicidal.
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>>171468279
Not yet ...
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Route B was a mistake.
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>>171482476
Press A when it dunks under the water, sometimes itll bob a few times first. If youve played monster hunter its the same fishing minigame.

If its doing literally nothing then try another spot
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>>171482669
miku is a slut
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>>171483058
delet
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>>171483058
So is your mother whats your point?
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>>171482669
It's like these people have never played a Taro game before.
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Does anyone know where i can get Sound Data part 5 ? I have 1 to 4.
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>>171483376
fight emil
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>>171483376
Ask keeper, if not then try but toll.
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>>171482127
Better taste than most, but you seem to be mistaken, my friend.

https://youtu.be/5LttULE-uRw
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>>171482317
>Ex: Ending E will NEVER happen. Not because its impossible but because humanity as a whole has too many cupidinous individuals to ever feasibly expect every single member to give up their own selfishness and help everyone else.
>tfw all those people that refuse to give up their save
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>>171480537
>What expands this?

Second playthrough, start finding and hacking those locked chests. They contain lore info.
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dod4 when
taro awaken
forget that smartphone game already
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>>171482317
>>171483760
Stop making me feel more guilty than I do already. If I knew it will end up this way I would have postoponed E untill I 100% everything.
>>
Hi guys

Not reading the thread or sticking around after making this post because i don't want spoilies

I just wanted to thank you all for making me aware of this game. This was my first yoko taro game, and after 4 hours with it I could tell it was special and wanted context, so I put it down, read a bunch of drakengard 1 summaries, and then watched a full LP of nier 1, all endings. Then i restarted automata, just got ending A, can't wait for what's to come.

I hope taro and platinum keep working together, it's a really good combo. I wish enemies kept up with you a bit more level wise as i understand the game's going to become a bit of a cakewalk as i continue to replay, much like nier 1, but that's my only complaint.

It's been a long time since I played a game that makes me smile as much as this one does. And the fucking music, fuck. Fuck. Goddamn. This fucking game.

Love you guys. I'll be back after i finish the game
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>>171483981
So long as you actually plan on it you're merely an asshole instead of a straight up terrible person.
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>>171484059
Good thing you enjou this, but GTFO ASAP.
Come back to use once you are done with ending E. We await your final impressions, but as far as it goes, you will love this game even more.
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anyone got the full image of all the weapon stories
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>>171482317
>Adams saying each individual human is capable of, and usually follows through, great selfishness at the cost of others.
>Hatred is also an aspect of this.

I get this, but why pick hatred in this particular scene though?
I mean, isn't selfishness(desire/greed) the source and the cause of hatred?
9S didn't have any kind of hatred before this part in the story. Wouldn't desire(for love form 2B/for having a family) make more sense here?

Ah, while typing this, it occued to me that I mixed up the context here.

The hatred in this part isn't about commentary on human nature.
It's about 9S's hatred toward the fate between himslef and 2B, that 2B is the executioner so they can't truly live happily ever after, which also reflects on what 9S said during him fighting A2 about how he desired something doesn't exist(a happy ending for himslef and 2B).
9S already had a hunch about all this executioner stuff from the start, so now it all makes sense.
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>>171482669
this android is cuter than your android
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>finish sanic races
>racer blows up
>feel sad
>with perfect timing flag waver blows up
>laugh for 5 minutes straight

>someone spent a week of their life modelling that giant space cannon
>it did fuck all

>the tower bipeds who are completely worthless in desert


>get down to the city ruin big hole
>ground littered with corpses
>all descriptions are fucking hilarious

this game is pretty funny
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>>171481853
I beat all the gold enemies on A route before hitting lvl 35. Just takes time, patience, and proper evading.

Also having never really bothered to ride the animals, I was riding the boar in the desert and held R2 when turning and suddenly my boar belonged in Fast and Furious. Not sure if anyone else mentioned this.
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>>171484895
>I was riding the boar in the desert and held R2 when turning and suddenly my boar belonged in Fast and Furious.

Boar Drifting was in Nier 1 and brought back due to popular demand.
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I just started playing a couple of days ago and the game feels like its just dragging on. So give me the spoilers for the story, how fucked are we?
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>>171484895
riding animals is form of fast travel, they go full fucking sanic. Great if you need to get to end of desert and back
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>>171484757
Maybe I missed something but there were no references to accord in automata, right?

I wanna know who sent her back, i guess in a future dod game
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>>171484964
>we
You, the game is amazing.
100% is about 60 hours while just the main quest around 20-30 if not less.
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>>171485110
>Maybe I missed something but there were no references to accord in automata, right?

Accord supplies the Weapons Trader in the Resistance Camp.
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>>171484782
>someone spent a week of their life modelling that giant space cannon
>it did fuck all
poor intern-kun. yeah it was weird seeing it out in the distance and it did nothing. even weirder when the tower was present with it too.
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>>171485223
we game artists are used to 99% of our work not being noticed by anyone.
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Are they going to restock the black box edition
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>>171478312
Bought the game for 2B, stayed for 9S
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>>171485079
why are the boars so goddamn fast?
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>11b's memento quest
>run through the entire factory
>don't find it
>figure it must be in those elevators I can't access

>look it up later
>no it was just at the first room in the game
>have to run through the whole fucking factory and back again again
>forget to save
>jackass gives me a mackerel
>lose literally over an hour of progress

IF YOU DIE FROM STAB YOU RESPAWN BUT IF YOU DIE FROM FISH YOU HAVE TO LOADGAME???
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I'm at 97% quests complete, I presume it's only Emil's quest that's left, correct?
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>>171484964
This game isn't about crazy plot twist, so I think spoilers wouldn't help you enjoy this game more.
It's all about the joruney and underlying messages, which mostly being freshed out by doing enough sidequests and reading lore.
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Was it worth it?
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>>171485642

Completely and utterly worth it.
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>>171485642
Yes.
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>>171485642
You are making the world a better place, anon.
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Does the amazarashi single actually feature anywhere in the game? Is it in the credits/ED?
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>>171485417
pls I don't want to pay $400 for one on ebay
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Ctrl + F "Retrie" Phrase not found

Okay then. Whenever I choose the "retrieve" option on other players' corpses I see a message about multiple chips and some money but I never get the chips. I used to when I first started. What's the deal? Am I only allowed to get so many free chips this way?
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>>171485642
>tfw plat'd the game in 60 hours, sacrificed my save and sold the game back already

:^)
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>>171485865
I guess you need to leave the area or save or something before you get them
I was having trouble getting them again and then survived for a bit longer, looked at my inventory and it was full of chips
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>install some shitty low-level taunt chip to 9S
>do spear charge
>thousands of damage
Why do you even need hacking when he has infinite spammable pod programs on his light charged attacks?
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>>171484627
Because giving into your emotions like that and letting control of yourself go to any degree is a self indulgence and thus directly related to selfishness.
Adam also fetishizes the darker side of humanity so he just latched on to that aspect of 9S cause why not pump that for possibly relevant info.

Much as he emotes Adam is more analytical. He'll "dissect" things to try and glean knowledge and further his own evolution.
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>>171485865
It's just an temporary effect, kek
you thought you actually got the chips?
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>>171485865
Read the tutorial again. You only get those chip effects temporarily.
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>>171485476
Enjoy your few other runs in vailla, underground and dark.
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>>171485987
>taunt chip to 9S
You wot m8?
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>>171486181
Try it and read the tutorial. There is a reason they also drop in A route.
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>>171486274
S-STOP LYING ANON, 9S CAN'T TAUNT
Or show proof fag
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>>171464112
Hello yourself
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>>171486181
Give 2B/9S a taunt chip and when you mash the flashlight button you're taunting the enemy.
Shit like taunt and overclock also carry oved into hacking/the damage hacking does.
With 9S' broken to shit combat having a 450% taunt build is just fucking obscene but god damn is it fun.
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>>171486030
>>171486054
I suddenly understand what the icon next to the level means. Thanks.
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>>171486556
Blink the pod spotlight repeatedly at your enemies
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>>171486646
>450% taunt
>on charged combat bracers
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So I just met those 2 fags on the alien ship

I feel like I should have done at least one sidequest by now but to be honest they all seem a little dreary

no doubt i'm missing some of the best weapons in the game by not doing them but fuck it
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>>171486556
Try flashing your pod on and off a bunch of times. Acts as a taunt for 2B and 9S. Can't make webms, because ending E
>>
Fuck, I'm at 94% unit data and I just miss enhanced ones, I've been roaming where the JP Wiki says and I haven't found one of those fuckers

I will never complete 4S' quest
>>
>perfect dodge hacking slows down all hostile objects
this shit gets better and better
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>>171486718
you're missing quite a lot of fun as well.
Sure they're all fetch quests and shit but they are often worth it for dialogue alone
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>>171486646
>Give 2B/9S a taunt chip and when you mash the flashlight button you're taunting the enemy.
I'm starting to remember there was some prompt about tauting/mashing something but it caught me midfight as A2 and I didn't read it sticking to usual square push... Now I feel like an idiot.
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>>171486718
No. What? No.
All weapons from quests cans till be gotten up until You're told to go to Flooded city.
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>>171486718
>So I just met those 2 fags on the alien ship
Why are you even in this thread?
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>>171486896
>midfight as A2
The mashing prompt only appears when you equip a taunt chip as 2B or 9S.
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>>171487002
what do you mean?
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>>171486716
Wait till you use crit+ bullshit.
Theres tons of shit that use 9S' high DPS bullshit to break the game.
Basically all his attacks have follow throughs so as long as the weapon model maintains contact with the enemy it'll do damage per "tick" instead of A2/2B's majority of attacks being per slash.
Having stun or crit+ on 9S suddenly means that shits proccing or attempting to 3 times per strike.

You can also infinite B-Mode A2 with those % back on hit chips with taunt damage thrown in for funsies and a safety net of auto-use item chips.
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>>171487002
>why are you in a thread about a game youre playing

golly gee youre dumb anon
>>
Anyone have the original Caim Murder picture? I need it for reasons.
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>>171487139
He's telling you to get out to avoid spoilers. Now go and play the fucking game.
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>game suddenly becomes a wiki checking activity to get 100%

Hate when this happens. Was it too hard to do a checklist ingame?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poGw2dPHgEI
Don't mind me just posting the best track in the series.
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>>171487150
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>>171487185
the biggest spoiler of ng+ being with different character with different storyline was spoiled allready for me.

Not him but I'm here to get dirty tricks like taunt because of sponge enemies everywhere
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>>171487085
>>171487139
Because 2B is 2E, designated to kill 9S when he learns that YoRHa project is a ruse, humans are no longer dead, bunker expolodes in C and credit roll is THE final boss.
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>>171487218

>100% is a complete slog
>there's a trophy shop so you don't have to fuck around longer than you want to - and still get the cheevos.
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>>171487221
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72b0N0YAZIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3mSVrKqdiw

I'm kinda mad there is nothing like Shadowlord however.
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>>171487185
it's a yokotaro game this instantly tells me that all of the protags are going to die at least once, your bullshit is saving me from nothing

while i'm at it, do longswords ever become useful in their own right or am i stuck with chaining them after fast attacks forever

>>171487346
what a twist
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>>171487139
You're ruining the entirety of the games fun by submitting yourself to spoilers.
2B is gay, 9S is literally god, machines aren't real, Its actually a zombie apocalypse, theres 12 main characters, etc.
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>>171487006
Maybe it was with 9S. All I remember I was running through the forest and it was in later half of C. Maybe I actually had my A2 chips on after MC swap.
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Post yfw route C opening credits
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>>171487439
Large swords are the best weapon. Git gud and remember self-destructing at key points unlocks like 12 endings so just walk around doing that 24/7.
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>>171487115
This sounds completely fucking broken.
Does hacking get bonus damage from taunts? Please don't tell me you can 450% that shit too.
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>>171487576
Thanks for stealing my reaction picture for exactly the same tfw few threads ago, faggot.
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>>171487225
Thank you friend. Science will pay you back!
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Am i the only one who likes 21O more than 6O?
6O is a whore, 21O may be strict but also has a heart of gold.
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>>171487578
I self destructed as soon as I got it, received a hearty chuckle for my efforts

maybe my longsword is just shit then but every attack takes about a month to come out no matter which slot i have it in
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>>171487835
Go back to murdering B2s, 9S.
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I'm stuck with the mission to collect data for 21O in the apartment complex un the desert.

Found the shoe and the book bit there is something else and already wasted 20 mins searching, can someone help?
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>>171487576
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Now that the game has been released on PC, is there a direct rip of the sountrack files?

I'm only really interested in Weight of the World in chaos language.
I know it's on youtube but I'd rather get the actual file from the game or OST once it releases.
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>>171487621
Yes.
Have a Combust chip when you hack a 450% taunted enemy and watch a literal nuke drop.
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Guys how the fuck do I get to the desert area for the picture?? i get out of bounds trying to get there
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>>171488183
Worst case scenario the OST releases on March 29
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>>171488298

Follow the green, healthy palm trees
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Great quest. I must've skipped through on PS4, but I did not notice she gives you Melee/Ranged Defence up L items.
I also finally looked through the artbook and fuck me it's the nicest quality thing I've ever had with a SE, holy shitballs
and there's a picture of the actual alien motherships in there. They look like flowers.

>>171488298
I actually missed this quest before due to the storm, but if you follow the desert ridges all the way around (until you see palm trees), that's where you have to go. The storm is kind of in a circle around the oasis, but there's a small gap near the north (?), keep trying.
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>>171487931
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>>171488298
circle the sandstorm form the right
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>>171488298
Go in there following a path alongside the ruins close to that area.
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>>171488480
Better posts scans or i'll have adam tickle your perineum with his right hand.
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Does anyone know where I can find rusted clumps?
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>>171488298
Use the topology of the map. There is a subtle valley in the dunes that leads into the basin that is the oasis.
But yes, there are arbitrary invisible walls blocking you from just brute-forcing your way in.
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>>171488668
Pretty sure any small machine can drop those.
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>>171488668
Stubbies
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>>171488668
Places and areas, maybe even locations if you're lucky.
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>>171488378
But will it include every song in every variation?
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Route C is a Crazy wild ride
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>>171488894
Most likely since it's 4 discs total and the original nier ost came with those.
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>>171487576
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>>171488631
I've left it as a huge size but yeah. Pretty interesting.
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I forgot I had this laying around. It's a wallpaper if anyone wants it.
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>>171487576
https://youtu.be/uRFhnrPxegM?t=53m20s

Basically this.
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>N2
Where did this shitty meme name come from? I only ever saw them referred to as Terminals.
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>>171489435
This is lacking a timestamp, senpai.
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Anyone know what quest this is or where it's at?
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>>171489537
did you not read the intel that they give you as youre talking to them
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>>171489610
Sequence at around 53 minutes in
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>>171489537

From the game
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>>171489537
>shitty meme name
you read the archives and have some idea of what's going on in the world
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>>171489669
I did. I don't remember them using that name.
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>>171489537
>Where did this shitty meme name come from?
Learn to read.
>As part of this analysis, we compiled research and conjecture regarding both the machine lifeform network and the lifeform Codename N2—commonly known as the Red Girls—that was thought to have been commanding them.
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>>171488749
>>171488715
Got them, and broken circuits? I'm trying to upgrade the 4O weapons
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>>171489656
go to forest, go to cliffside, jump and glide your way down there
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>>171489728
then the actual file that calls them terminals says their codename is N2 im not sure how you skipped past it anon.
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>>171489749
>made out of old data on Nier
>name is literally Nier 2
What did Taro meme by this?
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>>171489656
It's on the forest kingdom side in the gulch.

>>171489758
Big machines. Not the Big-O Goliaths, but the big taller bipeds.

If you've not made a drop rate and EXP chipset, you should make one.
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>>171487576
Probably this.
I finished route B after pulling an all-nighter, because there's just no way to stop playing this game.

Never been hooked on a game like this before.
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>>171489749
So they did. The more you know.
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Jesus why are there suddenly lvl 30 machines fighting me. Im only lvl 12
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>>171489873
Oh good, so you're next in line for Taro's Wild Ride?
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>>171490047
Already close to finishing route B on my second save file
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>>171489862
I dunno considering its like the 5th Nier.
Bro/papa, replicant, replacement replicant, shadowlord nier, and now N2.
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I've only just finished Automata completely, has anyone made the connection between the red projectiles enemies use and dragons essence that made up magic in the original Nier?

I'm trying to pinpoint whether magic still exists in Automatas timeline or if the effects of the red dragon dying have run out.
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So what's up with the Watchers? Why did Eve have the crest on him when he started going bonkers?
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>>171490148
Oh so you're just Re-queuing with FastPassâ„¢?
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THE SKY AND THE COSMOS ARE ONE
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>>171490309
Emil is the only one still using magic. Magic bullets ignore all defense on androids.
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>>171490309
Your pods programs are magic as are the hacking.
Notice the particle effects are runes as are the circles holding your sword.

Magic in the Nier-verse was created by scientists studying the Red Maso and piggybacking it onto technology more or less.
Its safe to say machines, androids, YoRHa, and pods, plus most likely all the tech use it in someway since all you have to do is install a chip with the proper program and power it for shit to work.
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>>171490452
Ah, 9S...

Or some say Nines...
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>>171490387
What?

I'm playing through again without OS and ignoring side quests until I unlock chapter select.
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>>171490520
Oh and Emil is the only guy still using "pure" magic but then again he always was and owes his existence to it.
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>yfw you realized Bloodborne was pretty much Victorian Nier

what's it with nips and their silly ideas?
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Dumb question. I have the Elevator Key for Emil but I can't use it. I need his quest to be reactivated so I can but no chapter I pick allows me to reactivate his quest line. What do I do?
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>>171490452
PURGE THE MACHINES
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>>171490452
AWAY
AWAY
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OPerator to /ndg/! This is your regularly scheduled communications check!

I want to know if there's anything you think should be added to the OP that you think might be useful or have contributions you think would be nice or useful to have.
I'm always looking for more things to add to the OP.
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>>171490361
I don't think anyone really knows yet. The game has several hints here and there that point to a possibility that the Watchers are still around.
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>>171490629
But its really not. In any way.
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In ending D I chose go on the arc with the machines and was filled with deep regret when Ending E popped up and they said they could recover their memories. I thought I fucked up and 9S would be the only one not brought back
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I missed Emil on my first playthrough entirely, how do I find him?

Run around the city after he rolled away in the forest?
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>>171490786
He'll most likely be at the entrance to the desert camp. That's where he is 90% of the time, especially during chapter jumping.
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>>171490723
Your number so I can treat you to a nice dinner.
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Sound Data 2 through 5. Any idea where they are? I'd like to improve the jukebox's selection.
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>>171490786
Bum bum bah-da booo. A-bada bada yay!
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>>171490720
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>>171490842
>especially during chapter jumping.

I just reached the forest as 9S.
So no additional actions required?
Just go out and look for him?
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>>171490629
It's kinda super not though. Where the heck id you get this idea
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>>171490723
Hypothesis: Role-playing is unnecessary. Proceed normally.
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>>171490723
Put supplementary info and game completion down as mandatory for thread participation cause goddamn half the post limit is us going over shit and how it ties into automata for the 8 billionth time.
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>>171490919
I remember when I thought it was cute. And then that fucking faggot would come rolling around during important cutscenes or battles. Now I can't hear it without wanting to headbutt a wall
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>>171490857
4 and 5, maybe 3 too, are sold by the same shop that sold 1 after you beat the game

Can't remember which shop sold 2, I want to say it was in the machine village or desert camp
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Where the fuck is the forest castle secret door? The one you open with the key?
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>>171490752
Fucking Taro. I love that he keeps things unclear because it gives you something to speculate and discuss long after the game is over. But sometimes I just want fucking answers from him
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>the grind for pods and weapons

NOPE
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>>171490984
Noted. I just like running this general. Might be for the best.

>>171491065
Info in wikis seems to be all over the place in terms of accuracy and.. well general usefulness. I'll have to find a good few sources to use.

And I don't think i'm gonna put "Game completion" as being mandatory. Can't really stop that. I avoid putting massive spoilers in the OP and there's a disclaimer for spoilers in it as well. People who want to ruin themselves will come no matter what.
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>>171491252
You get there through the square-shaped many-layered library at the rightmost edge of the castle.
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>>171491252
In that square multi-story room, climb down the ladders.
It's the second floor from botton I believe.
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>>171491252
there's a ladder right next to the other ladder in the big library room. Turn your flashlight on.
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>>171491326
I shamelessly bought the trophy for upgrading pods, but if you don't upgrade every weapon you'll be locked out of a sidequest and boss that I highly recommend you see

It's really not even that bad, between the amusement park clown, Emil, Pascal, and the scientist you can buy every single weapon upgrade item
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>>171491326
It's an easy grind though.
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>>171490984
Counter-Hypothesis: Roleplay helps to facilitate a relaxed and interactive atmosphere between entities and was a tried and true method of communication on human forums.
Theory: your creator's mass is such that its a prohibited action to attempt to calculate it as an overflow error of that magnitude would hinder functionality.
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>>171491325
I think those flower ships in the artbook pretty much confirm the aliens are directly related to the watchers and they didn't just pull that stuff from human archives, at least not all of it.
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>>171491481
>Pure Water
>easy
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>>171490668
Please respond
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>>171491326
the only thing you need to grind for are the simple gadgets, everything else you can buy or get as a quest reward. just by playing the game i was able to max out most of the weapons naturally, hit up emil for the rest of the parts on his resistance camp route.
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>>171491471
>Emil
he hasn't ONCE sold me materials, only chips and weapons.

>scientist
who?
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>>171491538
Easy as in mindless.
You can watch some anime on your second screen while running around with auto pick up and warping around.
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>>171491543
Visit his shop
Check your emails
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>>171491538
For weapons. Pure water you can get by running around the flooded city.
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>>171491369
>>171491421
>>171491436
Yep I'm retarded didn't see the ladder going down
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>>171491359
Oh I don't care about someone ruining it just that 80% of the posts are either telling someone to play ending C when they're bitching about B's story or those that haven't unlocked the archives asking where all this info came from.

It's like reviewing a book and 3 out of 8 members haven't actually read it and are complaining they're confused.
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>>171491538
i don't know what exactly i did differently than you, but i had most of the pure water i needed just from naturally playing the game. i only had to go to the flooded city a few times to pick some up
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>>171491761
Fair enough. But I still don't think I'll be adding that to the OP.
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Nude mods when?
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>>171491882
Nudity is inferior to sexy clothes.
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>2B jobs to a fucking virus
nice writing there
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>>171492097
>bunker dead
>everyone in yorha infected
>implying there was a way to fight this off
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>>171492040
>not wanting to see 2bs labia
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>>171492097
She thought 9S would die too so she assumed control over his flight unit and sent him to safety.

Ironically he's the only one who could have saved her.
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>>171492162
Doesn't have one.
Androids ain't got no genitalia.
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>>171492097
Everything according to the plan. Only strong speciments, like A2 and 9S are allowed to evolve and adapt.
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What's the song after Father Servo dies?
Made me feel
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>>171492097
Yeah man I don't get how so many people like this shit.
Am I REALLY supposed to play as the boy for the rest of this?
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NEW ROUTE UNLOCKED
>>171492379
>>171492379
>>171492379
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>>171490920
Kek, saved.
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>>171485642
You didn't even have 100% you fuckign casual
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>>171492405
He IS the main character.
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>>171492471
>he didn't sacrifice the first time
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>>171492659
This is my second save
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>>171492721
You still played through ending E and didn't sacrifice your save. If you wanted to go for 100% why not keep ending E for last?
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>>171492937
I'm pretty sure ending E doesn't show up on the save if you sacrifice first before saving. To be fair I didn't try it.
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>>171492471
>not 99 of every item
You had one job to make this perfect and you screwed it up.
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>>171492270
Saved her how?
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>>171493070
Now it's your chance to proof you are not a casual and go for 100% with ending E last and show all of us how it's supposed to be done.
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>>171493175
hacking out the virus
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>>171493253
I thought 9s can't hack into 2b.
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>every time I use chapter select it restarts all of my quests

This shit is stupid I don't even want to 100% this game now. Fuck this.
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>>171493309
He does it at the beginning of route C after the failed assault.
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>>171493309
He managed to fully take control of her in the novel and was only stopped by a virus placed by Commander.
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>>171493336
It only resets quests you've halfway completed dumb dumb
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mfw the chorus starts playing in Ending E
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