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Play Eternal

Did you know that in Eternal, every single card that you draft in Arena you get to keep permanently?

>>171437423
>women
>females
>caucasian ethinicity
>young women

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>>171437423
>women
>females
>young women

>>171437487
If I wanted to play Magic I'd play Magic.

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what did this card do again /svg/

>>171437487
The art is too small.

>>171437525
>>171437535

>draw a girl
>call it a boy

what did you guys expect?

>>171437487
That sounds fucking stupid unless you are missing some part of ruleset.

>>171437559
there is no good video game adaption of magic

>>171437401
got anymore like that other one?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12537776

http://www.strawpoll.me/12537758

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Music time /svg/!

Post a theme song for each of the following situations:

>Playing vs Dshift
>Opponent and you are both in topdeckmode
>4-0 and against your last T2 opponent

>>171437487
4(?) currency? I can recognize gold and vial/dust, what's the other 2?

>>171437565
Nothing.

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>>171437591
a boner

>>171437565
Bricks your opening hand

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I want Fangblade and Albert to spitroast me.

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>>171437565
Dies to bane and bahamut

Shit card desu

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Play cunny craft

>>171437565
In the most literal sense: Nothing

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/ourguy/

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>>171437591

>Draw a boy
>He's still just as fuckable as a girl

Fuckin Japan man.

>>171437487
>All the tediousness of MTG, without the fun and intricate combos, and deep card pool
>Aggro is tier 1 at all times, because le burn
Into the trash family. Also, fuck Sandstorm Titan.

>>171437565
Dies to DoD.

>>171437676
>it involves blood
who voted for literally anyone else except vampy

>>171437691
# of packs and real-world money currency

>>171437565
it just works

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@171437732

>>171437748
Not when there's only 3 bunny ingame.

>>171437565
>このフォロワーへのダメージは0になる。 このフォロワーは、他のカードの能力(攻撃力/体力への能力は除く)を受けない。

The damage inflicted to this follower becomes 0. This follower is not affected by any other cards' effects. (Except those on ATK/DEF)
That's all. No such confusing terms like "target" and stuff and every retard saying it dies to themis/bahamut/khawy is shadow mains falseflagging

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>>171437712

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repostan in the new thread
>>171437402

Huh? I think his endings are his strongest point. He has a good habit of avoiding (too much) asspulling and his stories always resolve in a very satisfying (if sometimes melancholy)

noi ;_;

>>171437565

turn 9 do nothing to die to themsis.

>>171437565
*muffled autistic Khawy screenching in the distance*

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>>171437676
Is Luna old enough to bleed?

>>171437681
>Playing vs Dshift
https://youtu.be/ZQ7oqmikZDQ?t=46

>Opponent and you are both in topdeckmode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eyy9QjtyfY

>4-0 and against your last T2 opponent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WXYajeP9TE

>>171437731
What about Gawain?

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>>171437681
>Sono Chi no Sadame
>AoA - Good luck
>Duel of the fates

>>171437865

So, it dies to bane then?

That's a useless card then.

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>>171437487
What's the appeal of Eternal over MTG?

>>171437975
we broke up

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>>171437865
But it doesn't say it can't be destroyed, so it dies to Bane and Themis. Shit card.

>>171437975
He already said Albert.

>>171438005
bane is an effect desu senpaitachi

>>171438005
(heavy breathing)

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>>171437952
most periods start between 12 and 15, is she that age? then yes.

I have no idea how old she is though.

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>>171437929

Who here running Divine Angels + Dragons deck come expansion?

3x Saha, 3x Baha, 3x Lucifer, 3x Israfil, 3x Genesis 3x chance to brick

Add in eggs too since they impact game starting turn 1.

Gabriel still seems better than people give her credit for

>>171438009
see
>>171437618

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>>171437656

I had thought asanagi had a few more of those low-angle PoV pictures, but I guess not.

Have another height difference pic instead, I love these.

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>>171437535
>>171437525


>Implying Albert isn't best waifu

>>171438059
>>171438076

Bane is autokill guys, it doesn't matter whether Aegis is immune to targeting crap or whatever.

>>171437712
>>171437868
a-are these...

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>>171438120
Isn't MTG Online a pretty faithful reproduction?

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were not done yet shadowbabs

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>>171438113
she's aight. I think one of the lists I saw for some midrange sword ran her as some extra burst. dunno how good that deck is though

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>>171438195
post yrw people still don't understand aegis

>>171438217
it's buggy and roughly 1:1 cost with the paper game.

its mostly only useful for people who want to play dead formats like pauper and vintage or people who don't want to visit the lgs

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Will she be the paladin who saves us all from the evil of D-Shift?

>>171438195
Bane is a card effect

>>171438217
it's also complete garbage to play and is super buggy. I had to refund like 3 times in a row during on of the drafts I did
>>171438134
ty, I do too

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>>171438083
She's definitely old enough to start puberty.

>>171438376

Right, that doesn't target.

>>171438217
It's ugly/buggy as fuck and even more pay2win than HS

>>171438351
I want to corrupt her!

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>>171438419
>>171438134

REEE I POSTED THE WRONG PICTURE

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>>171438196

>>171437487
Does it have big anime tiddies?

>>171438419
some* of the drafts I did

So about the bowman haven silver, is some kind of OTK possible with him? I assume his effect works like wildfangs.

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>>171438351
>those black panties
>incorruptible

Is their a "dark" verison like dark jeane?

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>>171437681

>vs Dshift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7sQgQjubo

>topdeck time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am6Tz5CQ8ZU

>the battle for 5-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVbaPGP708c

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>>171437565

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>>171438351
>nothing personnel..

>>171438540
Read the card again.

>>171438486
I liked the other picture better desu you can post more thicc

>>171438351
>petrify exists

Sadly not.

I still hold out hope that the second forest legendary fucks with spell costs for your opponents next turn.

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Post elf.

>>171438351
the meta would have to be filled to the fucking gills with d-shift and silver bolt for that card to be worth teching in. its a decent body but outside of those matchups the effect is only marginally useful against storm dragon and albert sort of

>>171438434

it has double protection. it both can;t be targetted and is not affected by card effects.

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>>171438351
>incorruptible

now that just sounds like a challenge

>>171438617
Can rune ever be beaten? This fucking cowtits class needs reworking.

>>171437712
>>171438491
anon I say sorce?

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>>171438642

Did someone just say THICC?

>>171438617
I hate the art for this card, it isn't fitting at all for the effect. You can't just put cute girls on everything

>>171438617
Including 3 of petri does make their deck less efficient though. Probably not enough to matter for a control match up but it's (another) dead card versus aggro.

>>171438706

Right, can't be affected by spells basically, still makes it a free target for bane.

>>171438704
this card also cuck aegis unless for some reason cygames decided it wont affect him

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>>171438781
>You can't just put cute girls on everything

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>>171438781

I dunno, anon, I think putting hot anime ass on a card that turns a target to stone seems pretty accurate.

>>171438796
please refer to >>171438376

>>171438842
>go on danbooru
>search for "original"
>slap it on card that kills your minion

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>>171437681
>>Playing vs Dshift
ripping out my own ears as my brain leaks out
>>Opponent and you are both in topdeckmode
https://youtu.be/8QpUGCXwOks
>>4-0 and against your last T2 opponent
https://youtu.be/hVZ6nxAGJZU

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Reminder

>>171438809
i don't think the big eggo is in a hurry to kill anyone. i guess it fucks with when he tries to kill stuff with >4 toughness but i wouldnt call that a huge effect

>>171438704
The effect isn't just versus face. It basically restricts all enemy followers, spells, AOE to 4 attack max and due to that, can't be killed in one trade (DOD, themis etc still does the job though).

>>171438965
this is like a second banishoah

>>171438757
Second one is ash wing

>>171438781
Most of the cards in this game are like that sadly.

The spells I can remember with actual spell art that stand out are Revelation, Crimson sorcery, witchbolt, WSS, conjure golem, and like all of the dragon spells.

Everything else is anime girls.

>>171438704
The card makes everything with 5+ health impossible to kill in a single hit without hard removal. It's great against pretty much any deck.

>>171438965
all of this is worthless speculation until cygames released the card

>>171438704

If you drop the follower around bahamut time, then their bahamut is slightly less threatening.

Just hope you can answer him asap anyways in case of odin.

>>171439018
bless you anon

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>>171438949
>Coils of Light
good taste

>>171437681
>"Playing" vs. DShift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTyN-vvFIkE
>Opponent and you are both in topdeckmode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncB4HPOc40
> 4-0 and against your last T2 opponent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-9ihcy2R8

Need a Private Win.

87712

Emote 3 times if you want to trade a private win afterward.

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>>171438781

>>171439138
>if you drop an amulet when bahamut is coming out
>bahamut is less threatening

What did he mean by this?

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>>171438965
was i wrong when i liquefied my kaguyas ages ago

though she needs an evolve point and to be traded to get the amulet

>>171439351
Impregnate rorona

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How many expansions do I have to wait before shadow gets a card that steals shadows?

>>171438965

How long before retards come in saying

>hurr durr that's not how it works, it can't be targeted so it random does work!!

I know 90% of it is just bait but it pisses me off that there's at least a few people with lower than 3rd grade reading comprehension.

>>171439454
Her last words is locked behind evo anon

>>171439449

The amulet comes off LWs from a follower.

I'm saying that it's alright way to defend yourself from bahamut if you suspect him coming down.

>>171439512
>shadow now hard-counters p2p

fund it

>>171439512
>tfw no rest in peace effect that removes shadows and prevents them from forming
wait no that would be lame as fuck to deal with

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8 pp phage the untouchable for shadow

Y/N?

>>171439584
>The amulet comes off LWs from a follower.

What did he mean by this?

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>>171439058
Some are pretty hilarious with how badly they fit

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>>171439260
Thanks, Based Skeletal.

>>171439512
I would love to see that especially used on elf just before they play elf queen

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Elf Archer has some nice sized tiddies.

>>171439512
That's actually a not-shit idea anon.

>Completely shits on p2p

Aside from that, I see it being played as a tech card in Shadow vs Shadow match ups to counter Phantom Howl, Death's Breath and other things.

>>171439584
no, you drop durandal after bhamut nukes so baha hits for 4 like a little girl

>>171439682
That make sense though. She drains your semen and give your leader health.

I can't seem to put together a consistent D-Shift list, anyone feel like sharing theirs?

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>>171439632
>>171439771

>Double checked the effect
>On it's on fanfare

o-oh

whoops

>3x Fairy Beasts and an Elf Queen
Fighting through 60+ health is sure gonna be fun.

>>171439840
Just Themis it bro

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>>171438767
This pleases my carrot.

>>171439840
elf queen exists because a control forest deck probably isnt running a lot of fairy generators which means fairy beast will be healing for fairly mediocre numbers.

>>171438965
Reminds me of a god card from Yu-Gi-Oh (before power creep). Effects look pretty broken until you realise how slow it is and that 50%+ of games are over by the time you can play it.

>>171439454

Tried making her work. Realized how shitty she was because if you don't trade her away on that turn, they'll kill her next turn and you lose out on a proc of her amulet.
That, and Haven already is starved for Evos with Lion Spirit and Cudgel. If they made it just a regular last words OR increase the CD on the amulet, then she would be reasonably playable.
Luckily, I kept all 3 copies of her since she's super cute.

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Storm Ramp Dragon with Ouroboros
Unicorn Dancer Unica,3
Dragon Oracle,3
Dragon Emissary,3
Breath of the Salamander,3
Aiela Dragon Knight,3
Rahab,3
Urd,2
Dragon Warrior,2
Sibyl of the Waterwyrm,2
Goblinmount Demon,2
Draconic Fervor,2
Owl Guardian,2
Forte,3
Genesis, 2
Ouroboros,2
Bahamut,3

VS

Heavenly Aegis Haven (https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/52946)
Unica, 3
Mainyu, 3
Grimnir, 3
Prism Priestess, 3
Priest of the Cudgel, 3
Radiance Angel, 3
Ancient Lion Spirit, 2
Odin, 3
Heavenly Aegis, 3
Bahamut, 2
Blackened Scripture, 3
Themis Decree, 3
Sacred Plea, 3
Tribunal, 3

Match 1 (Dragon goes 1st): Dragon wins from Haven concede on turn 9. Once Ouroboros dropped and no Odin in hand, Haven knew it had no hope.
Match 2 (Dragon goes 1st): Dragon wins on turn 9. Turn 7 Forte + Urd + Evo into turn 8 Ouroboros. Sure, Cudgel and Oding cleared those 3 followers, but Genesis Dragon smorc'd for the win.

Thoughts:
It's hilarious how Haven's massive removal/banish toolkit falls flat on its face versus Ouroboros. Consider Mordecai. If you have an evolve point left as Haven and Cudgel in your hand, there's a good chance you can run something weak with 4 or less attack into Mordecai and banish Mordecai with Cudgel. But conditions are much harder for Ouroboros. You need a follower with 3 or less attack on the board for Cudgel to banish Ouroboros, which is much more unlikely. Ouroboros happily eats up Tribunal and Themis's Decree.
You can also use Urd on Ouroboros if you need the heal.
Aegis is so slow, and you die before you can play it versus Storm Ramp. There are so few matchups that last past turn 9 (control blood, control forest, control sword) I am inclined to say Aegis is bad.

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>>171439779
h-how does she share your semen with her leader

>>171440190
This, Haven will be tier 4 in ToG meta if Elana doesn't step up. Aegis is a red herring as all control decks have finishers now.

I've started letting all my turns run out and it really has increased my win percentage.

It's amazing how many people concede winnable games just because they don't want to be stuck in 20 minute games, especially the high ranking people.

My only fear is that I might get reported for "poor sportsmanship" which would be bullshit because there is no rule against using my turn time however I please.

>>171440215
She teaches your followers how to extract the enemy's semen for extra health
Even if your followers are male

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>>171440378

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>>171440190
>all Dragon reports so far had Dragon winning a BO3 or BO5
>there are people who think Ouroboros is bad
Are you ready to hear the dragon's roar, /svg/?

>>171440215
urias and vampy only drink blood because they think it makes them look cool. they can actually get life from any body fluid

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Can I get a concede please?

28472

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>>171440190
Tl;dr

>>171440190
just curious, how do you simulate these matches? do you see both hands and try to make the most optimal play with perfect information?

>>171437565
It lets you draw two cards.

>>171440190
I think raw Aegis Control will not be good. If Aegis becomes relevant, it will be in an Elana build with the new support from TotG.

>>171440190
Control Blood won't last past 9 with their new tricks.

Control Forest will probably kill you on 10 too with 8 storm damage if you summon Aegis on 9.

RIP eris

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>>171440378
>wrote a programm which autoqueues
>does an input on the field every minute so your turn doesn't get cut short
>get ranked points while not playing
Feels good

>>171440549
pls senpaitachi

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>>171440190
HEAR

>>171439954
If you're not running fairy generators then you're also generating mediocre amounts of shadows. She'd probably only heal for around 7-8 if you dropped her on turn 7. While still decent, it also means that any others you have in your deck basically become dead cards.

I'm not sure a no fairy generator deck would work. Means you can't use will of the forest, can't use roach, hard to power up ancient elf, can't use Tia. Feels like forest is stuck using fairy generator cards.

Maybe the intent of the new gold amulet was to avoid the need of those generator cards, but the amulet is too expensive to play.

>>171440190
They should have allowed allied effects to interact with Aegis (like G-Sun). Card would be decent then.

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>>171440764
>>171440515
>>171440190
>tfw Dragon will legit be Tier 1

>>171440728

Wait how does that even work though?

The program literally plays cards for you?

Need a concede please.

32257

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>>171440549
>>171440732
thanks hong kong mordecai!

>>171440190
Can you try Grimnir JO?

>>171440803
GSun would make it completely broken. It would be an instant win against everything besides huge spell burn.

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>>171440190

>so good haven banish that haven can't touch it

Give it to shadow or we sic the Khawy on bahamut again.

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>>171440378
>>171440728
Fuck people who do this. As soon as I see people waiting out the time I just pull up some anime and wait it out right back.

Play the game you lazy assholes. Triggered

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I'm in love with my cute wife Unica! She's the best!

>>171440925
Why are her legs broken?

>>171441051
That's a horse not a wife

>>171440987
D-Shift does the same thing 1-2 turns quicker (without counter play) and you can always Odin the GS if you know it's coming as Control. The haven player can't play both on same turn.

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>>171441051

https://youtu.be/DDVVUmr3lcQ

>>171441004

But it helps me mitigate card draw RNG by pushing people to concede games when they might have topdecked a win.

Like, when I get screwed over by card draw RNG and matchup RNG people tell me I am just a bad player and I should stop bitching.

So I stopped bitching and came up with this strategy to maximize my win percentage.

>>171440190
So, uh, are you just playing pretend or is there somewhere with these actual simulated duels?

Lore-wise, is the swordcraft world the best to live in?

>>171440190
pure control haven is trash, you need to go with either sun guardian or elana to safely reach turn 9 unless youre playing seraph

Anyone else here think that Cygames should release more small sets in a more rapid schedule than our current schedule of 1 big set every 3 months?

This way, our meta is allowed to change more often instead of being stuck with a meta no one likes for a long time.

Having less cards in each set also allows players to focus more on getting the cards they want with less chance of getting stuck with chaff.

>>171440515
This haven deck and the sword deck were legit trash though

Aegis is too slow for basically anything

I'm inclined to say even slower than satan, since satan generates tempo in the following turns

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>>171441269
Shadow lets you hang out with cute girls and skelebros.

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>>171437681
>D-shift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfef5WqC85A
>top deck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNYjOVo5IEw
>T2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6gAN6MOII

>>171440903
Thanks m8

>>171441162
DShift is not balanced either, so I don't think that's a valid point. Also, you can technically stop DShift, if you have a wall of china of wards and they don't have enough removal, but a GSun'd Aegis has no counter and will 100% win them the game unless they deck out or you are motherfucking JO Dragon.

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>>171441218
You can rationalize it all you want, but in the end all you are really doing is winning a little more and sucking a lot of enjoyment and time from other innocent people just trying to play the game. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>171440378
I've started roping D.Shift with my control decks, no fucking joke, it doubled my fucking win rate against the deck. I had people in 1k range of getting masters concede, just because they don't want to wait.

It's especially effective against nips, because they're either commuting or have ADD.

What shadow deck uses andras, orcus. burial grounds in A2?

>>171441369
They played against Aggro Blood as well and went 3-2, when aggro is supposed to be a bad match up. I don't think Ramp will be tier 1 guaranteed like the Dragon memers are saying, but it's looking quite good.

>>171441331
No, 3 months is already pretty quick to be honest.

As long as they are willing to nerf overtuned cards, the meta tends to stay fresh enough. Especially compared to competitors.

>>171441427
>stop D-Shift with Wards

ahahahahahaha

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>>171437681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrI9dKbY5GI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fO-MCL4CAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDOaX6OHig

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93374
May I get a concede, please?

>>171441439

>Dshift players
>innocent

If this meta wasn't run by subhumans, I agree with your post. It's run by subhumans though, so they're justified.

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>>171440543
they leave semen for the demons!

>>171441218
Does that even increase your points farming speed?

>>171441494
shitty ones

>>171441439
>Wanting to win less times than winning more times when playing a game

If that's your idea of fun, you're a fucking idiot.

You're also already wasting time by playing a game, now you want to waste even more time by losing said game. Don't forget to take that into consideration.

>>171441572
>>stop D-Shift with Wards
>ahahahahahaha

>reading comprehension

>>171440789
>any others you have in your deck basically become dead cards
i can't see running more than 2 and since forests draw is so bad having both early on is probably unlikely

>wotf
just use teena and fight for board instead like every other control deck. playing mangrove means that you can keep cards in your hand during the early game anyway to save for turn 5.

>tia
do you really want to play 2 or 3 copies of tia when you're also running 3 copies of protector?

>ancient elf
you'll still be running may and fairy circle at the very least, she should be fine.

>roach
You have the jungle protectors as your wincon

you're forced to run epm in this scenario and at that point around half your deck is based on fairy synergy and you won't have room for all the good cards being printed that actually fit into the archetype this expansion. there is 0 reason to ever play that kind of deck when you're better off just using combo roach with that shell.

>>171441602
wait' it's a wrong picture ><

>>171441439

But I want to get top 1000 rewards and this maximizes my win percentage.

Probably a third of my games today have been early concedes. How can I pass up something that improves my winrate?

Put another way, what would you say to me if I complained about getting screwed by RNG?

If you're like most people on this general you would call me a bad player and tell me to improve my own play rather than complaining about RNG.

So if /svg/ doesn't want people to resort to roping they shouldn't give people shit when they complain about card draw RNG.

You all pushed me to this.

>>171438593
So, serious question.

How will Aegis interact with Khawy? I think, obviously, Aegis won't die. And, if it's just Aegis vs. Khawy, it seems logical that since it doesn't die, the Shadow player doesn't get the heal.

But what if, for instance, it's Khawy vs. Aegis + a 6/6 tiger. When Khawy dies, will his effect target the tiger because it can't target Aegis... or will it target Aegis because it has the highest attack, fail, and proceed to do absolutely nothing at all.

I need to know how hard Aegis cucks Khawy.

>>171441602

あなたは私のダンスを見なければならない

>>171441583
thank you Luna

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......

>>171441051
>tfw they run out a unica on turn 2 so you have to run your blood wolf into it.
the absolute WORST

>>171441484
>It's especially effective against nips, because they're either commuting or have ADD.

yeah I've noticed this as well. I think a lot of them are playing on phones during breaks or commutes and simply run out of time if you rope them.

>>171439351
There're enough jaggies in that image to gear up 20 hunters with beginner gear.

>>171441804
Hip hip horray!

>>171441559
Sibyl and rahab improve the aggro match up by a large margin
Ouroboros role is a minor though

I mean yeah he's a lot better than dread dragon, but the wins were on the back of forte and genesis

But realistically you won't play him more than 2-3 times in a match anyway unlike carrot, which shadow can utilize like crazy

He's nice support for the deck and makes the deck better, but not the central piece of it

>>171441494
A homebrew deck obviously.

>>171441572
>As long as they are willing to nerf overtuned cards, the meta tends to stay fresh enough. Especially compared to competitors.

Cygames should never solely base their strategic decisions on what competitors do, and I don't think they are.

Anyway, with the idea I suggested, I think we'll end up with less overtuned cards than what we have now, becase they'll have less cards in the set, which will allow them to focus on each of the cards more and see potential problems easier

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>>171440190
>>171441559
>>171441369
Maybe we could try to put Ramp Dragon against a stronger deck to make sure. I have hope.

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>expansion still isn't out
I want to play mammoth atomemes already, cygames.

>>171441851
don't pay bloodwolf on turn 2 then

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>>171441804
J-just save them until ToG comes out! We'll be smashing the ladder then!

>>171441804
>win 3 as shadow
>win 2 as haven
>win 1 as dragon
Feels good + collect rupies

I'm confused, Gsun haven is about to drop oliva, a turn 9 do nothing, into satan, a turn 10 do nothing. How is aegis not going to be good?

>>171441804
Dude, just Ouroboros lmao

>>171441804
Isn't it great? You can do all those matches with just one deck.

>>171442050
How is Gsun haven good?

>>171441963
but then she'll just eat my wraith and then heal off the 2 points it did. it's unfortunate but it has to be done

>>171441606

Does it matter if it's on autopilot?

>>171441606

Well I play a LOT so speed isn't the issue. The issue is that climbing in the Master Ladder (aka the actual ladder) is heavily dependent on win percentage, possibly moreso than amount of games played (unless you do an insane amount of grinding with aggro decks like that blood guy in the top 3).

I tried the play quickly strategy and your gains for the day can just get wiped out by a run of bad RNG.

By roping I've made my losing streaks almost disappear completely since a lot of people won't keep playing in the hopes of that perfect top deck.

>>171441804
Dragon is great though, im nearly masters with saharamp. It only costs 50k vials

>>171438965
Durandal works as it affects the player I believe.

>>171441804
Half an hour of OTK dragon
Easy rupies
OTK dragon is really cheap just try it

>>171442050
Olivia is a 6/6 rush, not a do nothing, and so will be Satan (but 8/8 instead) if you have Olivia'd in the previous turn. Also, GSun gives those two things ward, so the opponent has to deal with them, they can't go face. Aegis is unaffected by GSun, so they will just rush your face if you play him, since you are defenseless.

>>171442050
Because that shit won't cut it anymore.

Every relevant control deck got more synergy and/or finisher cards - even earth rune (kind of).

>>171442098
I'm not arguing that, im arguing that g sun haven is easily about to olivia into satan without dying so they should be able to drop aegis fairly easily

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Why the fuck is necromancy still not optional? This is such fucking bullshit.

>>171442279
If it's not good, then Aegis still doesn't have a deck

>>171442279
olivia into satan helps them live because they're 2 taunts that help clear board.

playing aegis accomplishes nothing that turn.

>>171440591
I pretend I don't have perfect information when I play.

>>171441264
I simulate them with a Python script and paper. They're supposed to be as realistic as possible.

>>171441736
>top 1000 rewards

But there isn't any this month retard.

>>171442050
>oliva, a turn 9 do nothing
literally what

especially in guardian sun

>>171442160
Post your tuned saharamp. Mine seems to always fuck me by not giving saha fuel fast enough.

>>171441572
>3 13/13 wards
>After fiery embraces are out of the picture
There you go
And if Aegis could get ward from Sun it'd be an instant win except against Daria/JO/Seraph

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>>171440084
YGO Divine-Beasts are shit though. Obelisk is the best, but it's only untargetable, so it dies to everything. Cards that are unaffected by other card effects on YGO nowadays are still good, though they are counterable by Kaijus and The Lightning.

>>171442463

Not this month, but there will probably be more in the future so I'm preparing for that. If this strategy continues to be effective I will use it the next time there are rewards.

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>>171442497
here you go my bro, will probably swap out the blazing breaths for rehab next expansion, and swap out imprisoned dragon for that new legendary that clears the board with saha

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>You're going 2nd
>It's turn 5
>Enemy elana has 2 Elanas, Unico and Kelt on the field
>With your hand you can only clear 1 of them
Which do you choose?

>>171442654
I see, you are relying on satan to finish control games, i run a genesis dragon and double forte+urd.

>>171442535
>Serious response to retards who's idea of YGO is duelist kingdom anime and made up playground rules
Nigga.

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>Efficient at turn 5
>Ridiculously broken on turn 10

Forest isn't the Dev's pet class, they said..

>>171441691
No fairy generators or roach may as well consign yourself to auto-lose to d-shift, as jungle protector is far too late to help you.

No Wotf means another loss against board flood decks like Daria. Not that it was the best answer to her, but it is still better than having nothing.

Also means you can't use glimmering wings, though I really hate that card anyways. Really wish forest had some decent card draw, currently cards like goblin mage and Feena are still good in wolfbolt because they draw cards beyond just sometimes pulling roaches.

>>171442597
You are just going to get rope too. 40min per game is not fun, and you will lose if they don't concede. Dumb strategy unless you are eating or something.

>>171442654
>12 legends
impressive...

>>171442789
10 costs are fucking good in Shadowverse

i have the feeling cygames dislikes when games last beyond turn 10

>>171442654
WHERE'S THE DRAGOON AS EXTRA FINISHER.

DON'T SKIMP ON THE VIALS, PLEB.

>>171442782
I would not recommend that at all if youre also running saha. But yeah games usually end with me having complete board control and them running out of cards, theyre out of cards/i ramped up hella and bahamuted, or satan. I think i have a 60% win rate with this deck, its more suited to beat aggro and daria decks but still wins a ton vs control because of ramping into satan.

>>171442941
>Genesis

>>171442789
b b b but some website rated it a C that means it's bad

>>171442789
It's not that good desu, it's going to be like mahes, shit ward and overhyped.

>>171442879
>he hasn't seen the 40 card legendary sword deck that cost only one low price of 140k vitals.

>>171442789
the definition of unga

>>171442818
>You are just going to get rope too. 40min per game is not fun, and you will lose if they don't concede. Dumb strategy unless you are eating or something.

I'm always multitasking so it's not a big deal for me.

>>171442991
The majority of my wins are me coming back when they are at 20hp, this deck doesnt need a dragoon tbqh.

>>171442736
You will always take less damage by removing Unica.

>>171443021
Nobody is going to play it as a ward except as an emergency against an aggro deck, this is straight up a control forest finisher for control decks that don't want a million fairy generators just to use silver bolt

>heal for 16 defense with two f beast

>daria still walks over me

explain this shit

>>171441736
lmao good luck with that, people would be way more tryhard when's there prize on the line and wouldn't concede so easily. And when you keep losing despite doing that shit you would be even more angry and tilted, which leads to even more losing. Might as well just stop playing the fucking game if you can't enjoy it.

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>>171443007
Dragon gets worse curve toppers because you can only get to 10 PP. The real problem is that there's a PP cap and no mana sinks. Something like this should be given to dragon.

>>171443120
>Remove Unica
>Haven proceeds to drop 2 bunny healers and monastic
>Kelt bombards your face for 6 before smashing into you for 8, 10 if evolved
>Meanwhile only themis can clear that board
People keep thinking about Aegis, while this silver fuck is what's in my opinion gonna break Elana

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>MTG is getting 2 (two) (ii) (nana) cards inside a SINGLE card
>new and exciting mechanic

>meanwhile shadowverse got a bunch of "x mana do nothing" cards and memes

Hmmmmmmm

>>171443309
15+ damage from the board alone

>>171443309
Daria doesn't rely on burn that much, she relies on shittin out bodies and hitting you for 10+ damage each turn. Does this explain your loss?

>>171443413
I genuinely have no idea what I'm looking at here

>>171443413
>new and exciting mechanic
are you new to Magic?

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>>171443314
>lmao good luck with that, people would be way more tryhard when's there prize on the line and wouldn't concede so easily. And when you keep losing despite doing that shit you would be even more angry and tilted, which leads to even more losing. Might as well just stop playing the fucking game if you can't enjoy it.

Some people just want to see the world burn.

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>>171442808
losing to d shift is how you know you made a proper control deck :^)

if you play the roach and tia package though you're just going to lose to other control decks that got shiny new things and have actual board clears. i'd rather lose to dshift than get constantly fucked by people experimenting with maelstroms and zeus.

>>171443413
>portuguese

>>171443620
Your IRC buddy already posted the pasta, sorry bro

>>171443413

>>171443413
So basically another kind of kicker/enhance?

>>171443620
Post it in a language that a normal human can understand.

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What pre-build deck should I buy?
Which one is the strongest?

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>>171443395
Oh, he's absolutely ridiculous, no doubt about it. But given the choice in that particular scenario, the card that fucks your face all by itself is higher priority to remove.

>>171443620
>>171443413
Sounds interesting in practice, but it looks like shit on the card.

>>171443781
Forest

>>171443781
Blood has the most value

>>171443906
This is a malicious lie

>>171443781
Forest by far

>>171443413
How is this different from the double-sided cards from Innistrad?

>>171443719
More like an improved split card?

That is if what the guy is saying is that you can cast both sides and not just a regular split card like what we have already.

>>171443976
Looks like it's a card that has a separate effect if you cast it from your graveyard

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>>171443485
Youre looking at DUAL CARDS

TWO CARDS INSIDE A SINGLE CARD OMG

Instead of the boring normal cards in shadowverse

>tfw because of the fundamental design of SV and by extension HS we will never be able to choose whether to pay the enhance/necromancy costs, they'll always be done automatically
>Same with unique tap effects
>Instead all effects happen automatically, can't choose not to proc them
It pains me that because they chose simplicity and streamlining, we'll be missing out on so many interesting mechanics.

>>171443719
It's flashback/split cards in one.

Split cards you could cast one or both halves from your hands.

With the new ones the top half you can only cast from your hand and the bottom half (with the Aftermath keyword) can only be cast from the graveyard.

It's basically like a flashback card but the flashback does something different.

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>>171443976
Double sided cards transform etc. based on specific conditions and are always played normally, these are cards with 2 different spells, basically enhance cards.

>>171443940
Why would you say that?

>>171444065
It also creates interesting awkward choices, the way Shroud used to. Double edged sword in my opinion

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>>171444049
This is literally what Enhance cards are all about.

Get your head out of your ass, sir.

>>171443781
Forest or rune

>>171443413

Jesus that looks like shit. I liked the dual cards. I was even okay with the flip cards of Kamigawa. But this and those fucking Innistrad flip cards are atrocious. Who thought it was a good idea to fucking make double sided cards? Forget sleeves, just the amount of clusterfuck you have to go through because some of your cards don't have a proper backing. And of course, any decent player would sleeve their cards.

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>>171443836
>>171443958
>>171444358
I never played Forest though.
I hate elves and fairies.

>>171444065
>Instead all effects happen automatically, can't choose not to proc them
>proc

You meant to say activate. There is no such thing as a proc in SV.

Why does nobody use the word proc correctly anymore.

>>171444314
They are fundamentally different from a deckbuilding perspective because the graveyard actually matters in MTG.

>Shadowverse STILL doesn't have a deck that revolves around milling

Get your shit together Cygames.

A lightsworn style deck would be fun as fuck.

>>171443314

But it's not fun for me if I don't win.

>>171444483
Cygames will never do that because it's a phone game that they want to have short games. If you want to play shit to fatigue go play wallet warrior in hearthstone or something

>>171444483
Self milling does exist though.

PtP and Daria both do it, even if the latter isn't by intention.

>>171444434
Proc implies that a condition was met for the effect to occur right?
Stuff like Yuel use the end of the turn as that condition, 'proccing' the effect.

Am I wrong?

>>171443413
>nana
But Nana is seven.

>>171444610
If you think that's what he meant you're very stupid

>>171444412
Rune or blood probably has the most value then, whether the general likes it or not. Blood is just as good. By value wise I mean that if you buy one you basically have that deck and enough cards to build up to another, more meta deck. The blood pre-built is a decent deck, and on top of that it has more than half of the cards used for an easy aggro deck. Rune the same thing with D-shift and Daria if you're really stretching it.

>>171444603
If it's just a phone game why are they pushing for e-sports, releasing on steam, and sponsoring streamers?

>>171444483
>A lightsworn style deck would be fun as fuck.
Fuck off, we don't need more sacky shit in this game.

>>171444412
Do you like roaches?

Is card games the absolute worse form of competitive game since it's luck based?

>>171444784
yes

>>171444671
There's no point in buying a deck full of cards for a class that has no good decks. Blood can't have the most value by dint of having no cards of value.

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>>171444779
Nah, I'm from Germany.
I hate turks.

>>171444412
Well, you asked which one is the best. The Forest pre-built has their two best legendaries (Tia and Ancient Elf), one of which is an absolute staple on all Forest decks (Ancient Elf), a lot of staple/strong golds (Roach, Cynthia, Liza) and only 1 trash card, not counting Silvers and Bronzes (Selwyn). It's unquestionably the best pre-built.
You can buy whichever you want though. The only worthless one is Haven, unless you really like Jeanne's sleeves and emblem.
The next best one is Shadow, as it has a lot of staple cards as well, with only Lord of the RNG and Ceridwen being memes (but not useless).

>>171444784
>

It's not entirely luck-based.

You can do things like roping your opponent to mitigate RNG.

But yes there is a lot of RNG.

>>171444784
There are degrees of luck involved in multiple competitions, not just card games.
Poker is also a card game and it is extremely competitive.

>>171444909
All competitions, technically. There's a small chance that an amateur in Chess lucks in to the perfect responses to anything a Master throws at them.

>>171444537
Nothing can be fun for you anyway.

What will midrange sword look like in the new expansion? Will we actually get to play any of the new cards? I hope the cannon deck actually does something more than get meme wins 10% of the time.

>>171444784
The best thing about card games is deckbuilding. I'm not sure why you would even play a card game if you don't build your own decks.

>>171444619
No, Proc is an acronym for

Programmed
Random
OCcurrence

It is most commonly used with weapons and items in MMO which have a chance of an effect like a sword that has a 30% chance to fire lightning on swing is said to have a proc. The act of getting that random effect is "proccing".

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when shadowverse becomes an e-sport, then i will be able to proudly say that i main bison, and bring my shadaloo deck to EVO

>>171444750
Because they want their game to become more popular in the west and make more money? The PC release has a pathetically small player base compared to the japanese mobile player base who want to play a short game while they ride the bus.

The reason why they fill the game with burst damage and insta win cards like D shift is because they do not want long games, you should play a different game if you want fatigue wars because it will never happen in this game.

>>171444784
Bingo.
>>171444902
Try pulling that in actual competitions. as in IRL tourneys, and you will get warnings or even disqualification for misconduct.

>>171445027
Midrange Sword will probably remain a meme next expansion.
""""""""""""""Midrange"""""""""""""", however, will most likely still be decent.
The Sword deck that is looking like it's going to be the best is Control though.

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I just won this hehe

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>>171445121
Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up.

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>>171445032
To save the world, of course.

>>171444784
Um no? There are lots of other competitive games that involve luck like poker and there is nothing wrong with having an element of luck.

>>171445169
>Try pulling that in actual competitions. as in IRL tourneys, and you will get warnings or even disqualification for misconduct.

I mean you have to play by the rules in whatever competition you're participating it in.

I'm just following the rules of online ladder play, which permits you to use your entire turn how you please.

>>171445314
Poker is a card game

>>171445196
Won't control just throw in a couple Rolands and call it good?

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>>171441804
just do this >>171441967

>>171444784
Pretty much.

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Luck > Skill
Prove me wrong.

>>171445481
There is also Gawain, Luminous Mage and, if it turns out to not be a meme, Cannon.

>>171445519
KEK

>>171445519
>Forte holding dead Rowen
wat

>>171445442
If you don't like games of chance you're free to go play chess or something but I like games where both skill and luck are a factor