/rlg/ - Roguelike General

first for amy

Could you really run an android on lamp oil? Or do they need batteries of some kind?

>>171434771
Well you can generate electricity by burning fuel...

yeah I've tried a few force trainers and their spells mostly seem like sortof bad offense that requires annoying Improve Force to have any respectable front-loaded damage, but doing so uses basically all of your mana.

The early levitation spell is nice at least for accessing some dungeons

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i like androids

>>171434107
Fuck off Amy.

>>171437028
amy is a goddess and we are lucky to have her

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Crawl babby here.

Will a shield fuck with my riposte rate?

>>171437291
Very indirectly it will lower it, it's not worth worrying about if you are already using shields or worth not using a buckler while you are using a 1H sword.

>>171437291
Shielding occurs before dodges, so it will mess with riposting.

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>>171437291

Yes but SH lowers their total chance to activate over time as you block more attacks during combat so I think using shields with the goal of minimizing "initial" physical damage in case your EV doesn't work is still very relevant. The way SH affects riposte could be illustrated with an inverse exponential graph in which as more turns pass, the lesser its impact. Riposte has 33% chance to activate along with the chance of EV to work so SH's average influence for riposte to not work would even be lower than this

>>171437926
>>171439478
>>171440304
I see. So the chain of events is SH -> EV -> riposte -> AC.

Is there a hard cap on how many blocks/ripostes you get per turn?

>>171440907
No.

>Find One Ring
>Equip Helmet of Ares
I am dealing berserker damage now.

>>171440907

I wouldn't know about SH but dodge and riposte are basically the same being limitless; riposte just has twice lower chance than plain dodging to activate.

Good evening, rlg. What are we splatting tonight?

>>171443272
The good old 3353.

>>171443483
Ah, a classic.

>>171440907
you get a penalty to SH for each block beyond the first, and IIRC you can only riposte each monster once per turn (before that change people were hilariously octuple-riposting hydras to death)

>>171441768
best feeling
imagine if you were a berserker with those though

so yeah, rage mage is somewhat frustrating due to massive AC penalties and nostealth

level 28 at the moment

there is literally nothing wrong with playing an elf in Sil

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>>171452320

>You are paralyzed!
>[spacebar] [spacebar] [spacebar] [spacebar] [spacebar] [spacebar] [spacebar] [spacebar] [spacebar]
>You die.

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>>171443801
Haven't splatted yet!

>>171453946
>great wings of shadow

Oh boy, here we go again

>>171454156
Belegwath is OC for Sil though.

Who has had their respect for Tolkien rekindled by *band games?

>>171456047
Here.

>>171456047
Doesn't really make sense except for Sil because they're all so lore-breaking.

>>171453042
rekt

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>>171447912
I do enjoy being able to teleport,. destruct and genocide, though.

>>171456976
Holy shit.

why the FUCK is the player view so huge in C:DDA? I still can't see it all even fullscreened in 1920x1080

>>171457224
because humans can spot things from very far away

>>171457943
in other words:
because the devs are dumb and implement things that are really shitty gameplay for the sake of realism even though they completely ignore realism in many other ways

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>>171434107
>it's an "Amy wins her own fork again and makes an OP with her own win because she can't stand being ignored" episode

>>171458115
what pcb combo would Aku be
DCSS probably demigod transmuter or something

>>171458494
possessor with GWACL body

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>>171458115
arigatou, anon~

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>>171457194
Well,. that was brief.

>>171459623
>brief
>12+ hours

Coffebreak my ass

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>>171459623

>>171459658
*tea

I'm gonna play a demigod of Hephaestus mauler

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Here's the dump. Not gonna submit it to ladder since I don't wanna mess up PCB's ladder. You have really little control over the dumps, which is kinda annoying.

http://pastebin.com/7u7rxEC3

>>171459658
Yeah. If I wanted to make it faster, I'd probably have to just boost player to 50, give him some ok starting gear and let him go down from 90 ironman-style.

>>171459797
Getting guarantee on hammer is good, but too bad Hephaestus is kinda poop by himself.
The two feats can make up a lot, though.

>>171459797
why hephaestus?
his hammer is only 30lbs so its not like it makes a good mauler weapon anyways

actually i havent played mauler since they were reworked to have 3 blows
i think they're less dependent on weapon weight now?
but anyways there are a ton of big heavy weapons that you have increased drop chance for, like Typhoeus and Ymir's swords

>>171458078
>this isn't like what I like
>therefore it is retarded dumb doodoohead poo
>oh and it is like this objectively

any new sweet crawl games in the past couple months?

I like DCSS, ToME, and Elona+ the most

>>171460116
it is pretty big dice with all the best slays and brands and some decent stats

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>sleep in a town I'm looting
>there's a minefield pretty close to my house
>mfw I keep getting woken up by explosions because zombies are retarded

>>171460198
>implying cata ISN'T dumb doodoohead poo
have you played the game

>>171461943
maulers get huge inherent bonuses to dice just from wielding heavy shit though
you want something over 50-80lb for the full bonuses IIRC

>>171461954
half the time it's just players pulling shopping carts

>>171462006
he was a warrior not a mauler you silly goose
it's also really good parentage for clubmasters

>>171462142
oh wait disregard, I didn't realize there was a new character mauler starting perhaps.

>>171459797
yeah other guy don't do that, thet hammer truly is not good for maulers.

>>171462083
That minefield saved my life once because I lured a chicken walker into it, getting killed by it felt like pottery.

>>171462006
Why are you playing roguelikes instead of games more your speed, such as free MMO, FIFA or candy crush?

>>171462628

Why not?

>>171462935
Because you lack the taste and skills required to develop an opinion on the subject and so are only capable of spewing memes.

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>>171462628
>playing video games at all
i just watch anime and shitpost

>>171463010

I'm so bad, please share some of your proskills ;___;

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>>171462628
>>171462935
>>171463010
>>171463951
Dont be mean and a bully! Calm down..

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>playing in nightmare for the first time
>first time using the embers of rage dlc
>open up tinker town
>go there at level 5
>level 35 spiders with 200% movement speed rip me a new one

wooow how was I supposed to know that?

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>>171463036
I just watch Power Rangers and shitpost

>>171463010
But as you can see by the OP pic we encourage vegan memes

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>>171464220
The bullying stops now.

Rolling.

>>171464220
Bullying shitters who shittalk games they don't like is an universally preferred behavior.
>>171468962
Rolling

>>171468962
Is there a torrent for farlands?
If not, it should be removed from the list. It is jewish to recommend shekelware in open source games general.

>>171469056

But being skilled at roguelites is nothing to be proud of...

Tell me about Dynahack
Why does it wear the meme?

Does it buy into muh minimalism memes or does it have actual fun in it?

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What is your reaction when this happens?

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>>171470327

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>>171468962
>>171469194
>94

Can you not

>>171468962

>no MSE

shit list

https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=309490#p309490
>Yesterday, a couple changes were made to the god that I have strongly argued against. While I don't mind any of this, my wake up call came yesterday when I realized that changes had been made without me realizing at all (I was checking !messages in ##crawl-dev every day since I live on a different timezone, and nobody sent me a ping before this patch). Again, I'm not trying to express anger at the devs for not "respecting my design", which would be a shit attitude to have, but realizing that no matter how much time I spend, and how strongly I argue, I don't have control over the idea anymore, and on the flipside no responsibility for watching over it with the same degree of involvement. If I had been asked before these changes were made, maybe I would've felt compelled to remain in the conversation, but at the moment I don't feel like I can keep up, especially when I'm asleep through most of the live discussion.

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>>171475520
wew

>>171475520
That sounds pretty shitty, but it could be just different people working on things, not realizing things are "taken", and failing to coordinate because of that.
Happens pretty often if there is no hitler micromanaging everything with iron fist.

>>171434107
>>171437028
>>171458115
This is the future you chose.

>>171470327
>I need you to guard this position
>"
>turn 360 degrees and walk away

>>171476024
Honestly, I'd rather have the Amy shill her interface rape fork than non-rl bullshit like tum pedoshit or "x isn't a roguelike because it has cats".

>>171475739
>back to safety
Even google knows tavern is shit

>>171476024
Well technically, yes.
I mean we did make another thread but we stayed in this one.

It's fine as long as we don't go back to the ancient ways of "posting the win in the OP"

i bought a book of song in poschengband but i cant actually study it

im a cyclops paladin whats the deal here

Got back into ToME given the Possessor addition. Sure is fun, but I totally forgot the utter bullshit that is sawbutcher rares. Christ.

>>171467238
There's a level difficulty feeling on zoning in anywhere.

>>171477801
pro tip: paladins arent bards
paladins also arent necromancers so you cant study books of necromancy
and paladins arent samurai so you cant study books of kendo
and paladins arent rage-mages so you cant eat books of rage

>>171485439
>books of rage
>REEEEEEE
>for 50 pages
>FUCK CUNT SHIT PISS DICK FUCK COCK for next 50

>>171485850
also you really do learn spells by eating the ragebooks rather than reading them -- they're used up and destroyed after you learn a single spell, so you eventually need to find 8 copies of book 3 & 4 if you want to learn everything

>>171485850
sounds like my uni's whatsapp group.

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>+10
Have artifacts always had the chance of having stat boosts this big?

>>171487876
It was a more recent change. Like .15 trunk or something. Before that they were way more tame, but generally much shittier.

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Alright. Now the figure out how to deal with low-value merchants.

The new stable

Where is it

>>171491892
Mostly waiting for merges
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/projects/2

>>171487876
>tfw too smart to worship ru

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>>171491570
Another day, another option.

>>171491570
neato
>>171492923
super neato

>>171491892
>stable
I dont get this, if you play the experimental version it is if you are playing the new 0.D.

btw CDDA is never stable, it will be unstable and you will play the experimental after a week or two. The point of the stable release is mearly the archival purpose.

>>171493203
He's been jerking that stable dick for a month now, I don't even.

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>>171493087
I also fixed bit bug that had been left unnoticed by me. I imported new monsters from pseudo, but forgot to adjust the dungeon bosses for Glass Castle and Mines ( in R ).

Anyway, updating the other repo in moment.

>>171494339
thank you floatrand
I wish people would stop calling your fork easymode, it's clearly a work of love

>>171494459
It kinda is. But it's not the intention.

But glad you are liking it.

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what's the best first pet to catch in poschengband? a baby dragon?
pic related is my current run

>>171494339
the hero /rlg/ needs

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>>171496253
Who calls my name (well, title)?

>>171495874
>first pet
whatever the strongest thing you can safely catch is, probably
baby dragons aren't terribly strong. If you can charm/captureball level 20 shit then lizard kings are cool and easy to find

what class are you playing anyways

>>171496389
ponyposter would never post anime

>>171492923
>>171491570
Delightful.

Any thoughts on the duelist autotarget on kill post 35? I can disable it myself, but I think that other guy gave up.

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>>171496681
and that's why he's shit

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>>171496862

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>>171497015
animes are a beautiful gift to the world

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>>171497160
Enough.

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>>171496556
thanks anon, but im not sure I could safely accomplish that quite yet. I'm playing a gnome nature/life mage. i'm still pretty new to poschengband and this has a been a pretty fun combo. I didn't realize how much overlap the two magic types have so that's pretty shitty. this is my very first non-melee run and so far it's been dope.
pci related is my current run.

>>171496834
Maybe some other day. Gotta do other stuff for now.

>>171497242
>mage of nature/life
How are you planning on killing the serpent anon
healing him to death

>>171497409
:( pls no bully. I said I was still new and that this is my very first mage run.
honestly i hadn't even considered it

>>171497520
it's more of a matter of "how are you planning on killing stuff after DL:25"
You're a mage so your melee sucks major dick
you have laughable offense spells
archviles will eat you alive

>>171497714
aren't there some decent spellbooks I can buy/grind for?
btw what do entangle and nature's gate do?

>>171497520
Do you have any attack spells at all? Or are you just meleeing everything to death?

Note that mages can change their second realm at will, at the cost of losing all the spell slots they've spent on it so far. You might be interested in ditching life magic and picking up an offense-focused realm like armageddon, chaos, or daemon.

>>171497823
entangle slows mobs (almost all mobs resist slowing past the earlygame)
nature's gate summons hounds and other mobs.

>>171497894
that sounds ideal.
and yeah i got the nature mastery book pretty early on, i've been using fire bolt, frost bolt, and ray of sunlight for my attacks. and lightning on weak stuff.

>>171497823
you can browse your spellbooks to read all the spell descriptions by pressing P or B or something

the game will tell you that Entangle slows monsters (same as a staff of slow monster but it costs way too much mana) and Nature's Gate summons some animals as your pets -- at very high levels it can make Ents

>>171498057
shit i forgot nature even had those spells
i've only used it on monks for the utility spells i guess

>>171498064
oh sweet. i thought i had to learn and use the spell to know what it did. thanks anon

>>171497520
Last book has some offensive spells, but it will be long, long time before you get there.

Armageddon's general choice for offense. Just damage-dealing spells.
Trump if you want summons/teleports.
Chaos/Death for offensive with some support.
Craft is buff-stuff.

>>171498189
im thinking i should still drop life considering i barely use it aside from regen. how would I go about doing that? also which secondary would you guys rec? death?

>>171498260
>>171498375
oh sweet you answered before I even asked lol. thanks kindly anon. /rlg/ is a comfy place

>>171498375
pick a spellbook from the realm you want
'G'ain a spell from it
it will become your new second realm, and you will automatically and permanently forget all the spells you knew from your old realm 2 (aka Life)

>>171468962
Rolling for something new.

>>171497272
No worries, man. Appreciate the fork.

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many snek

also how long does Enslave undead last? i've been waiting for my zombie kobold friend to attack me for a while now

>>171501067
also woops, most of those arent snek. my bad

>>171501067
I don't think the game has any temporary enslavement
if you turn something into your pet it's stuck that way permanently
although if it's just "friendly" it can still get pissed off and fight back if you attack it or hurt it with AOE attacks

>>171498375
I would recommend not getting death or daemon, because those want you to be evil to avoid getting failure rate penalties, and nature wants you to be neutral.

>>171503743
Spells can be influenced by virtues? Huh.

>>171504013
You can turn virtue system off, though.

>>171503743
Don't such spells evil by default, so you become more evil just by casting them?

>>171434107
Has anyone but Amy ever won SLEX?
Or played SLEX?

>>171504609
At least few (that's less than group) anons (or anonymous normies) have played SLEX for the sokoban.

>>171504609
Am not Amy. Have played SLEX. Quit before I left the first floor because Dynahack's incredible UI has ruined me for other *hacks.

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>running around in the dark, hoping to find a source of water not far from my camp
>find some rubble, with an artifact at the middle of it
>picking up the artifact makes me hungry, nothing else, fair enough
>activating it maps like I'd hacked into a turret-room lab computer
I really hope it recharges. This is neat. Wonder what happens if I activate it underground.

>>171497206
fucking barneyfag

How much longer until DCSS consists of only minotaur and berserker

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>Start playing CDDA
>There's multiple builds a day being released on the experimental, with sometimes dozens of changes with each one
>generate a map, some of the houses have zero items in them
Cool
Better try again next week, then

why do you fucking retards insist on playing the game on a version that you hate

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Neat stuff lies in the wilderness if you're just willing to kill enough mature dragons

>>171497520
mages can always use high devices later, and nature has midgame damage spells (they fall off later because they are based on the elements and get resisted a lot later, except for water ball and a few other odds and ends)

>>171508147
It'll always have other choices, but they'll explicitly be challenge choices rather than even pretending to be balanced against the almighty MiBe.

>>171434107
More like "sod off amy"

>>171510923
>Clairvoyance

Really lovely.

>>171504806
I played it like ten times at most in my life because I had no idea what it was.

Once I understood, I did a 360 and moonwalked away.

>>171504609
I've played it but only gotten to like d4 because I have no idea what anything does

>>171508494
You must wait for the stable anon

It will come soon

>>171513627
They're actually trying to get a new stable release instead of ading new stuff?

The latest one is from 2015.

>>171513874
C:DDA is eternally experimental now

>>171513874
Yes

The stable will come soon

Soon

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>Page 10

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So that's what happens when you use it underground.

Incidentally, any worthwhile loot in the slimepits? I just lost a greatcoat, leather pants, and 4 levels of durability on my scimitar to fight past more than 200 blobs. And that only took me to the stairs.

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>>171516812

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ToME scratches itches I never knew I had

>>171518709
I love how easy it is to make money on Patreon.

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>Frakir drops 6 hours and 15 levels after it would've actually been useful

>>171517964
the slimepits have fuckall worth looting other than the slime itself (which is ok if you want to mass-produce mutagen i guess)

Does anyone know if you can grow crops in C:DDA with eternal season turned on?

>>171519637
huh

>>171520448
Hello?!?!!?

How do i make pcb not boring?

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>>171523930

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>tfw watching lets plays of fucking roguelikes
ive fallen so far

>>171524665
How many are there even? I'd be surprised if someone consistently had more than a thousand views a video.

>>171525173
Quiet a few far C:DDA actually

>>171523930
Play while you're locked in a room with a wasp nest. Or play after swallowing a bunch of glass. Or chew 5 gum. Or set your socks on fire.
I'm sure you can think of other ways to liven up your Real Roguelike experience by using these examples for inspiration.

>>171523930
Play Angband instead.

>>171523930
are you one of those dcss players who comes to *bands and thinks he has to 100% explore/clear every level before moving to the next one
uh, dont do that

>>171525823
This is the one thing I can't stop doing and why I will probably never get into *bands

>>171525981
there's literally an infinite number of them
you get NOTHING for fully clearing one of the infinity floors

>>171526224
Yeah but like how do you know when you should go down

>>171525823
Doing this in DCSS is pretty stupid as well.

>>171526310
When you have what you need from the floor you are on. (you don't need everything btw)
If this is too difficult for you then try going down every time you find a stairway down until you are at a DLvL of twice your CLvl.

>>171526319
b-but muh xp!

>>171526310
especially in earlygame i just go down as soon as I see a staircase unless there's a juicy-looking pack of enemies or item that i've already detected, or if i'm playing something pathetically useless like bard or highmage of hex or rage-mage and i need to stay on the early levels to get stronger

>>171526319
in dcss there is no reason not to fully explore each level except >turncount speedrunning
at least for most of it. yeah in zot or hells you're gonna want to dive but for most of D that's not the case

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>>171468962
>>171468962

Just realized that dubs aren't active on /vg/.

Well, if anyone wants some more shit added to the list, speak now.

We need around 30 more roguelikes to fill up the remaining slots.

Adding weebshit:
>MaidenSnow Eve
>Mystery Gensokyo
>Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer
>Chocobo's Dungeon 2

>>171526495
>>171526730
In DCSS you are actively fighting against how unbearably boring the game is.

It's the only correct strategy to play rapidly and a little unsafely. Even when streaking.

>>171525491
That makes sense.

>>171525823
I'm pretty noob, so this is serious question? Why shouldn't you? You get xp and items

>>171527261
there's no reason to wring every single drop of xp and loot out of a level, because there are infinite floors and thus there will always be more later on
in fact you'll actually get xp and items FASTER by rushing down to a lower dungeon level instead of staying on a high, easy level as long as possible

the only reason not to go down farther is if your character isn't strong enough to survive/fight down there

>>171527680
But levels are finite in DCSS (except the abyss, but you get mutated there)

>>171527896
and pan, you goofus

>>171527896
yes
it is a good strategy in dcss but a stupid strategy in *bands
which is why it is often used by *band newbies who have dcss experience

i think you misread my original post

>>171527896
and h*ck retard

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>>171528134
h*ck has finite levels though

also pls dont swear

>>171528045
yes, it's late and i'm retarded, thanks for clarification

>>171526319
It's a waste of auts, but it's technically optimal gameplay, particularly for a 3-rune game.

Not just with XP, but loot/vaults/shops, too.

>>171526310
To get a feel for "when", you have to understand the central difference in *band item management vs Crawl item management.

In Crawl, items (specifically, consumables) are "finite" -- besides dangerous places like Abyss, Pandemonium, and technically Ziggurats as well, you can't really get more of any items you'd like except by searching the dungeon. And because the floors don't reset in Crawl, it's thus optimal to fully/mostly clear levels, so as to get everything that's there.

Conversely, in most *bands, consumables are effectively limitless due to the town shops. If you have enough gold, you can buy like 40 heal wound potions, 30 blink scrolls, etc. etc. etc. which you can't do in Crawl (I'm using the Crawl names for these items, but you get the gist).

Keeping that in mind, *bands encourage you to
0) Buy consumables that will keep you alive
1) Dive down as deeply as you can
2) Get the loot and XP of the deepest floors possible
3) When your consumables are nearly used up and/or you're about to die, high-tail it out of the dungeon (word of recall).
Rinse and repeat.

It sounds like suicide, I know, but it's because loot from deeper floors is *significantly* better than loot from earlier floors. The number that the official Angband guide uses is:
> Monsters and items at dl 5 (250') and deeper are much (~100x) more valuable than items at dl 1.

So, if you're wondering if you should dive in Angband/PCB, the answer is usually "yes".

can you guys recommend me some 3D roguelikes/roguelites?

>>171529634
no

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>when you get only halfway through a murderous vault and still make out like a bandit

Honestly my first non-scummed anti-summon amulet

>>171530204
GCV or bubble vault?

>>171529634
cdda but it isn't a roguelike and the 3d features aren't fully fleshed out

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>>171530797
then why would you recommend it if it doesn't fit any of the criteria

dwarf fortress adventure mode also isn't a roguelike but its 3d coordinate system actually works

>>171530337
The one where you walk the pattern - couldn't get to the center safely, but the stone was on an outer edge

I have heard pizza has been removed.
Is this true?

>>171531770
pizza (as well as jerky?) was removed when they changed all food to take 1 turn to eat

>>171531956
>>171531770
Why do they insist on ruining the game?

>>171531956
So no more customizable food object?
That's ruthless.

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>have hordes on
>go around clearing roaming z's for rags, so I can practice sewing
>get a deep bite through plate armor
>forget that I have antibiotics, try to cure it with cauterization
>fails, turns to infected bite, no first aid kits
>head to very far off town for healing
>kill lots of z's, get another deep bite
>cure both
>get a fungal infection for no apparent reason
>it's night
>raid bookstore while I'm there
>want to check the books for usefulness, go looking for a light source
>attract a horde because broken-cyborg stealh (tm)
>killing things slowly because wounded by an acidic zombie earlier
>get grappled by 3 different z's, pain ~80
>slow enough that another acidic z vomits on me the moment he appears in LoS
>can't move, don't want to stay in the pool, try to teleport
>teleporter is gone
>lose 3 turns breaking free from the grapples
>two turns after escaping the grapple, my left leg breaks
>a large splash of acid appears on the ground, indicative of a spitter outside of my LoS
>and a tough z grabs hold of me
>then an NPC comes out of nowhere and headshots the acidic z, drawing the attention of the whole horde
>manage to crawl off to a nearby cemetery
>take a nap in the chapel on the grounds
>while I sleep, the fungal infection progresses, and instantly breaks both my arms while simultaneously taking me to >1000 pain
>nothing I can do about it right now, go back to sleep
>child z's wake me in the morning, still >800 pain
>only working limb is my right leg
>stats are 0, speed has hit the minimum of 25 thanks to all the debuffs
>outlast them thanks to my plate armor, try to crawl back to my HQ
>there's a dozen z's ~30 squares north of me, somehow draw them in one at a time
>then a mi-go appears and runs me down
>drop my bat, kill it with an S&M revolver
>the remaining 4 z's come in all at once
>survive because plate
>see horde approaching from the southeast, start sprinting the opposite direction as best I can with two broken arms and a bad leg
>get away
help

>>171533126
Fuck off.

>>171533243
but y

>>171532120
Fruit still exists.

>>171533669
Is fruit customizable?!

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Spoilers for mummies in Demon unveiled:

>90% Speed
>Only 2 weaknesses on Mummies: Fire and Electricity.
>at least light, dark and body resistant; maybe cold too, making them similar to civatateo
>other abilities unknown
>most likely a tier 3 demon, spawning on Tower:21 and beyond

Why does nobody play SLEX?

>>171535692
That ability is bonkers!

>>171536271
A lot of those new abilities look like they can be really nasty, like those guaranteed sleep/panic at low HP abilities.

>>171535873
idk, hard to get into?
I'd play it more if it had nh4 UI

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>So the king asked for a crown like Thranduil's cap, but we don't have any telepathy essences in the whole atelier, sir
>just shove a bunch of sense essences on there, he won't know the difference
>b-but that's not what the king asked for
>throw a sense nonliving on there too, that'll shut that prick up

>>171536689
Nice.
Having every "Sense" is better than Telepathy.

>>171535692
>mumo will be possible in demon now

>>171526310
Keep going down. If you die, you're too far down.

>>171536884
that one doesnt sense evil though
and in any case there are monsters that don't fit into any of the "sense" categories, like Olympians

Does the Switch version of Isaac really have no pro controller support? How the fuck.

>>171540658
Isaac is not a roguelike, faggot.
OUT FER A RIP ARE YA BUD

>>171540767
Lol Kys baiter, let him speak
It is game of a boy who has goed rouge...

Is there a way to "zoom out" the view in C:DDA so i can actually see what my character sees?

>>171541251
no because the view distance is retardedly large
you can pan around at least

>spend a week drinking cough syrup because I caught influenza
>finally get cured
>end up addicted to cough syrup

>>171541251
Just activate the minimap with N, you might have to change the size in the options though.

>>171541251
z and Z zoom in and out. I forget which is which.

>>171541456
>the view distance is retardedly large
When you're outside in daylight you should have a large view distance. When you're inside or in the dark it shrinks appropriately. There's nothing wrong with it.

>>171543456
Neither of those do anything
>>171541481
n moves me diagonally down, N does nothing.

>>171543731
Look in the graphics options if pixel minimap is enabled and give it atleast 10 height so you can actually see it.

>>171543612
it's retarded for gamedesign reasons, not because of muhrealism

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>>171543731
Check your keybindings. Every version I've ever played for years has had those bound by default.

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>>171543731
>>171544621

Mine says that too but pressing them does nothing, I'm using the latest experimental.
Also what tileset is that?

>>171545098
Wait, does zooming and the minimap only work if I have a tileset?

>>171545098
It's Chesthole.
I'm playing an older experimental. 6201. I can't imagine they would've removed the functionality, or that it would be dependent on using a tileset, but DDA development is notorious for its lack of common sense.

>>171545152
zooming only works with tileset
if you're using ascii you probably just have to reduce your fontsize instead

>>171434107
The Amy is very pleased! :) Also, for those who don't like SLEX, our server now has Grunthack and Sporkhack too!

>>171468962
rollan

>>171546342
post youre softwareengineer win

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don't doops

Why not switch the G key and the tab key? G is a relatively unused letter, and tab is in the middle of nowhere on the keyboard. It would be more efficient when tabbing.

>>171550106
>middle of nowhere
>near LShift, q, z, a, s, w, 1, and 2

>>171533126
Lame survivors generally get euthanasia
Permadeath starts at 0 leg hp.

Unless you can hole up in a basement - then it's doable.

>>171512992
Join the IRC chat, read the beginners guide on the wiki, or just use the trial-and-error strategy?

>>171526786
Xenocide - http://xeno.chaosforge.org/
Rogue Effect - http://dowhilecompiling.blogspot.fi/p/rogue-effect.html
Dwarf Fortress (Adventure Mode) - http://bay12games.com/dwarves/

>>171533126
>NPC with a gun
>shoots the zombies instead of you
Nice.

>>171532065

Because people let them do what they want obviously

>>171532065
There's no project director or head developer, so it's basically a few dozen autists tinkering on different things with little communication other than shooting down interesting ideas.

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Bards are kinda neat, actually.

>>171557527
If it was like that all the way to level 50 I'd agree with you.

>>171555285
>project director would fix it
Lolnope

Project director can enforce one vision, but I guarantee that a DCSS project director would agree with those removals.

Total noob in PCB here. How do I wake up a monster so I can kill it honourably? I'm playing Samurai so might as well retain my honour.

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>>171557982
Gotta see what happens.

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>>171561745
Easy go easy come.
Took two steps, got slowed by inertia hounds and death knight summonder bunch of shit.

I just wanted my Stingeroo.

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movin around at the speed of sound

Undickery.

>>171564737
Dare you to finish lonely mountain

Anyone got some tips for a new Brogue player?

>>171557527
>>171557982
bards at level 50 are really strong

>>171529634
Dwarf Fortress.
There's running and jumping and climbing.

are there any better tiles for poschengband than the ones included by default?

>>171573178
Nope

>>171533126
Did you win?

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How is this balanced

>>171574969
It's balanced because you don't have an endless supply of them, my man.
Plus, Brothers in Arms can often be even better.

>>171575120
Those arent his minions

>>171576121
>hostile summons
I cast teleportdudes

>>171574969
That's what you get for being a faggot

>>171574829

is there any way to start the game so it isnt zoomed out 9000x every time i start forcing me to spam click 'increase tile width' like 20 times

>>171576557
Nope

Have fun

>>171533126
>broken cyborg
>expecting your life to be anything but the peak of suffering

It's literally fake difficulty: the profession

>>171577560
It's still better than Really Bad Day

>>171577560
Really Bad Day Tweaker is worse.
>you aren't allowed to craft, read, or eat anything but randomly generated food/liquids for two weeks
>and you act at 1/3 your max speed

>>171561387
Being prepared for battle is a form of skill. There is nothing dishonorable about killing sleeping enemies.

>>171578049
>Stop, you brute!

How can I make 1 on 1 combat interesting?

>>171578506
real time 3d action pvp

>>171578506
Terrain effects, terrain-dependent attacks, delayed attacks forcing target to run or get hit hard, short range teleports (or dash) with some deviation, weak but common debuffs (-10% damage for 5 turns, stacking etc.) and AI that can plan ahead and doesn't just walk and attack.

Aaah.
I wanna play some nice poschengband today.

>>171561387
uh, you could read a scroll of aggravate monster, i guess?
you eventually get a war shout in one of your kendo books that has the same effect as aggravate monster except it also does sound damage to everything in LOS

>>171577560
>It's literally fake difficulty: the profession
Once you take off the shitbionics you're left with the nigh-impossible-to-find-and-install superalloy plating CBMs, and the joint torso ratchet, which are the best possible CBMs of the game.
Besides, if you pick fast healer and have 3 first aid you can simply try to remove the bionic, fail, get near death, pop a couple sleeping pills, sleep and repeat.

>>171580656
Isn't the furnace better than the joint torsion rachet? Instant, significant power; you get like 100 per two-by-four

>>171580895
You can install both of them. I like the ratchet because it's literally free energy.

>>171580993
Eh, I'm just stingy with bionic slots.

>>171581072
>bionic slots
They're a thing now?
Also, the ratchet would use a lot less space than an internal furnace, would it not?

>>171581072
It won't be an enforced thing for a while because of disagreements regarding them.
Unless you intend to keep your t00n well past stable, it's safe to exceed the limits.

>>171581168
Yes
Technically: the furnace takes up about 40% of your torso, but the ratchet takes up part of each limb and part of your torso too.
>>171581321
Wait, those numbers don't actually mean anything? I've been ignoring all the convienience bionics for no reason then

Is the "only replace half of fixedarts with randarts" option in PCB-R completely random?
Will I have a 50% chance to get a ring of power reforge that sucks major balls?

>>171580895
the furnace is nice if you have thousands and thousands of max energy from all the electrozombies you've killed because you can just chop down + eat a tree to instantly refill

the passive ones like JTR are nicer for general use because you don't have to micromanage/think about them though

>>171569725
Don't fight jellies in an open space, they will completely surround you and kill you, if you fight them in a corridor be careful because sometimes when they split the copy appears behind you and you won't be able to run away.

Stay away from water and mud in the deeper levels, there are monsters that can grapple you and they get 100% chance to hit you.

>>171574969
Just kill the dude who read the scroll, and they'll all disappear.

>>171580895
I think Metabolic Interchange is the best one. Gives you power fast, and if you have food at all, you usually have it in abundance.

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REACH HEAVEN THROUGH VIOLENCE
>400% xp modifier
REACH LEVEL 50 THROUGH GRINDING

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R I N G L E

>>171586272
>eclectic
The madman!

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>>171586879
It was a tie between eclectic and sexy, but Eclectic is more lore-fitting.

>>171581858
yea, and it's a lot more fun than either 100% standarts or randarts imo

>>171586879
that is not the worst weapon

>>171587679
Haha no
fuck that
getting a +archery reforge on the +3 dice feels like fucking a bottle of bleach

>>171586879
>exactly zero mana
don't tell me you're playing a rage-mage?

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why did chris remove samurai's auto-concentrate when resting, anyways

>>171588892
I am playing a warrior whose official class is technically a rage-mage

>>171589919
Well on the bright side you get
- a crappy version of haste that only works after an enemy tries to cast confuse at you
- a temporary rDisench buff for some reason, what the hell
- a mapping spell that's smaller-radius than every other mapping spell in the game to the point where you'd rather just carry _enlightenment (actually i think this one was buffed to just be normal mapping at some point)

maybe you'll get something neat from books 3 & 4
summoning piles of hasted warriors of the dawn and master mystics seems ok

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>>171436392
they're great
the racial offense spell, AC/level, and various immunities (statswap, polymorph, xp drain, etc) are super good

>>171582549
I figured the jelly deal out on my own. Just seems like a bad idea to get yourself surrounded. how deep do you mean when you say "deeper" exactly?

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Turns out it's only fast and easy to level up there with monks
who'd have guessed

No but seriously PCB's too slow for me nowadays
I'll probably play coffebreak sometime

>>171590642
Bog Monsters start spawning around depth 7 but you only get packs of them in depth 12.

Krakens start spawing around depth 15, those are tough fuckers and can easily kill you if you don't have a potion or staff that can help you.

>>171591082
Nah, works for most. You just have to teleport at the first sign of D and roll the dice that they won't breathe early. It's somewhat more grindy with equipment based classes, of course, but still quite a bit faster than the conventional way.

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Now I just need to update my autodestroyer.

>>171593089
spiceman
hey
spiceman
hi

>>171593197
He's not the spicerack.

The spicerack was gunned down in the infamous Berlin Roguelike Conference Massacre of 2016.

>>171594003
RIP in pepperoni

>>171590475
the trick is that those summons only last for as long as your mp - meaning I'll have to do some masterful turn count management to ensure that any big packs I try and summon don't spontaneously disappear after 5 turns

>>171595872
If you stay under 100% mana usage you can keep them around even at 0sp.

What I like to do for summon shenanigans is name a few important guys who i can keep around for less than 100% mana, then if I ever hit 0 I can just dismiss unnamed monsters and i'll keep the group of my favorite dudes.

Can Hera demigods rage mages replenish sp using clear mind?

>>171579082
Thanks. I'll try to keep that in mind.

>>171596909
yes but rage mage mana decays extremely quickly except on turns that they cause damage to a monster (or cast Focus Rage)

>>171574969
You are a MiBe, you will figure it out.

>>171596717
I can keep 3 warriors of the dawn around at the moment, that's the problem. If it was a giant horde that would be great, but one breath and they're pretty much gone.

>>171599324
Well the main point of warriors of the dawn is that they're annoying fuckers who constantly respawn when they're killed (something like 6/7 chance to do so).
I guess they're more like meatshields who can eat an average of 7 breaths each rather than a decent damage source.

How can people say Mummies are one of the worst races in Crawl when they are literally immune to everything that's a pain in the ass in the entire game?

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G R E A T E R
V A U N T E D I T E M S
A W E S O M E G O O D I E S
U N M A T C H E D S T U F F
L O O T O F T H E G O D S
T E R R I F I C T H I N G S
S W E E T P L U N D E R

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>>171599928
>wall building

>>171599926
win rates
the fact the mumo has only been won like once

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>page 10

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um

please give me back my item sir

>>171604346
you won't be the first one to shift-Q after having one of those stolen

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This might be the least useful posture ever?
All it does is make a single-blow retaliation against the first monster to attack you, and then the posture automatically cancels itself. But it also gets canceled if you attack a monster normally.
Oh yeah and while Samurai are holding a posture they can't concentrate to regain sp.
So this thing is literally worse than useless.

After ~10 ingame days, I finally lost that poor extra-broken, fungus infected cyborg. A migo caught me while I was suffering from the random 900 pain outbursts that Fungus Infection gives, and bashed me head in. I would have shot him, but at pain >200 your strength is generally drained below 0, so you're too weak to hold anything with 0 hands

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Gotta go quick.

what mods should i play CDDA with? i dont like doing tedious bullshit but i want fair/balanced/fun gameplay

>>171608516
Nice hp, would be a shame if something... happened to it?

>>171610376
Apparently I get more hp as I jew harder up to the limit of 10M gold. I got a ways to go.

>>171604346
lol fug
That guy stole my only copy of a critical spellbook of mine at a bad time once. Serves me right for letting him get to melee range.

>>171611350
I always try to carry multiple copies of spellbooks if possible.

I guess you're fucked if your only copy of book 3 or 4 gets stolen though

>>171574969

Because there are 50 billion ways to deal with this, including, but not limited to hitting a, then hitting b, then holding tab until the guy who summoned them dies.

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>invisibility cloak
That's something I've never seen before. Shame I can't use it right now.

in poschengband, is there a way to check what a specific weapon brand does? for example: vampiric, vipers fang, lightning brand
just curious as to what they add to the weapon and if there's a way to check

>>171613791
hooray for more cata posting

This'll convince me to start playing again I think.

>and nearby, an entrance into the armory
Here's hoping that the lab end
1: has an id card
2: doesn't have secubots
I have a teleporter so I could warp out once on the surface, but these concrete walls, metal doors, and easy access to rare resources and infinite water make for a neat home base.

>>171614512
The average bonus damage from a brand appears on your character sheet - some effects don't work on some resistant enemies