/ndg/ Nier/Drakengard General #9

>>171361152

BOTW is the first time I've seen open world done so well in such a long time, maybe it's coming off the back of that utter shitstain that was XV('s open world) but it's not only well designed in the sense that there's virtually no deadspace, it looks gorgeous so you're constantly hitting new secret stuff and beautiful sights.

The shrines are are awesome, they're basically one room puzzles that make you feel clever, like there's a biutton that presses the reward centre in your brain and you jamming it over and over.

There is countless, countless touches in that game that continue to impress me, it's so freeform that there's a mission to get a shrine early on where you need to get cold resistance and you can do it in a few ways, I made cold resistance food, I told my friend and he just said 'Oh I set my weapons on fire' this sounds simple but it blew my mind.

To anyone who hasn't played it, this is how free it is: you're first main quest mission after the game is to kill Ganon, you can face him at the start of the damn game, it's not easy but the game won't stop you.

TL;DR - It's not got Nier's emotional attachment or Yoko's excellent storytelling, but on a pure gameplay persepctive it's just so strong for me

2B as a sword once again kills 9S on ending D.

Why does A2 suddenly lose most of her hair length?

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>>171361874

>>171361948
in memory of toobie

>>171361948
She cuts her hair over 2B's body.

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9S is for ____ !

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>>171361874

>>171362149
Oh boy

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>>171361874

>>171362149
For some reason, Pod 153 looking like she has a ball gag is way more arousing to me than Nines crossdressing. Send help.

>tfw forgot to save at the start of Route C and died

brb killing myself

Pod 042 and Pod 153
Zero, One, Two, Three, Four, Five

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Any news on Grimoire Automata? Any news on anything at all?

I need muh lore

>>171361874
What the fuck are you talking abo-
...
fuck.........

>>171361948
this >>171361979
Alternatively, to properly take up 2B's mantle

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>>171362391
Holy shit I didn't notice.

so if DLC gets made for the game, what are you hoping for most?

tshirt accessory?
more story, wether it be 2B pre prologue or what A2 does throughout route a/b, or something else entirely?
challenge arenas?
alternative outfits for all 3 characters?
emil planting speakers around so you can never escape EVERY DAYS A SALE?

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>>171362391
End it all.

>>171362593
All of those things please.

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>>171362593
T-shirt date, desu

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what am i looking for here

theres a little red circle but i see nothin'

>>171362593
Give me prologue DLC a la Drakengard 3.

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>>171362727
nevermind I'm retarded

>>171362727
inside the little area to your right?

>>171362593
Bring back Caim and have him murder fucking everyone

>>171362727
Hop on the building to your right, and enter it, holy shit dude.

Anyone know. Of any plans for a flight unit model kit?

never played drakengard 1. how difficult is it?

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>>171362391
>>171361874
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
STOP THIS SUDDEN BIRTH OF REALIZATIONS

>>171362876
Play on easy difficulty, putting it in a higher difficulty will just make the game artificially longer for no good reason.

It's not a hard game.

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While I was talking with the commander I moved the fucking camera around to check under that skirt and jesus christ that fucking commande has DAMN CAMELTOE.

Imagine how that tight vagina would squeeze your dick until the last drop.

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>>171362841
I've just realized that Caim is the only character the Drakengard games have ever made happy.
>loves murder
>gets to murder everyone in his own world
>murders everyone in our world too, Automata confirms humanity is completely extinct

>>171362876
It's easy. Press square about one million times.

>>171361581
Someone had a webm of the same thing as 9S with 2B running in circles.

It's cute. How do you recreate this? What setting does the partner have to be on?

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>>171362593
I don't expect any direct epilogue after E, so I'll probably agree with those who'd like to see a prequel.

Either A2's Pearl Harbor Mission or when 2B was first paired up with 9S and when she first dealt with having to kill him

Maybe it's not likely, considering that we already know how both those stories end, but I think it'd a nice bit of context for fleshing out how everyone turned out the way that they did.

>missed 2 pod programs
>go find them
>one is back at the abandoned factory
>used chapter select to go as 9S for some trophies aswell while searching, at a later part of route C after the amusement park recovery unit
>look over where you play as the robot in the beginning of route B
>it's gone

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I have a problem, I'm doing the main quests against lvls 25-30 while I'm barely 16, how do I level up faster so I don't get my ass nuked?

Also in the capacity of the Chips I have 48 atm, how can I increase those?

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>tfw just noticed this is a direct reference to shin godzilla

>>171363054
What fucking enemy is that and where do i find him?

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>>171362942
>Caim realizes that there are no people left to murder in Automata
>But aren't androids TECHNICALLY people?
>Caim's face when
I wish someone would make an updated picture with 9S and Pod153 sneaking up on stubbies

>>171363134
I love this pic, it's great in so many ways.

>>171362391
DEEPEST LORE

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>>171362942
Ol' Caim finally got his mass murder fantasy, but I think his mood during the different endings still ranged from depressed to angry beyond all sense of reason.

What do the androids smell like?

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>>171363054
Holy shit, that's fucking rad. I watched Shin Godzilla a few weeks ago and loved the shit out of it.

>>171363009
Yeah, one thing I think should've been in the game is The Memory Cage. I wonder why they didn't include it, I would've loved to realize that whole thing on my own.

>>171363134
I don't think he'd stop at androids.

>>171363278
He'd murder his way into space to murder P-33 and the machines on the Ark. Then he'd take a swing to the left to murder the aliens.

>>171363265
Plastic and metal.

>>171363098
I only saw it once during a fetch-quest that Devola sends you to the middle of the forest for.

>>171362424
>>171362918
>>171362264
>>171362156
>>171361974
And it was 2Bs memories that got A2 killed.

2E really was the [E]nd of YoRHa.

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will I eventually be able to teleport around between different save points?

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>>171363435
>2E really was the [E]nd of YoRHa.
...........

>>171363489
Yes. Save your side questing until you unlock it, trust me.

>>171363554
None of them disappear if I get past a certain part of the game do they?

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Is he /ourguy/?

Dirty secondary question
Why exactly did Angelus agree to the pact with Caim?
He proved that he wasn't some pathetic human who was just going to get the both of them killed?
He showed that he hated humans more than Angelus, and dragons are kind of racist?
Or something in between and neither?

>But you can never dirty my soul. wretched human
>We are united by our need to live

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>>171363435
>2E really was the [E]nd of YoRHa.

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>>171361874
>At least now, I can't hurt Nines again...
>....
>Son of a bitch...

>>171363026
>look over where you play as the robot in the beginning of route B
>it's gone

It was never actually there. If you looked at where 9S and his flight unit are supposed to be, he isn't there either.

Also, wasn't bucket friend in an inaccessible place anyway?

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>>171363652
no

>>171363684
they were both bleeding to death and they didn't want to die

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>>171363594
Well, kinda. But no side quest is missable. I don't want to spoil you.

>>171363684
Neither of them wanted to die at first. Of course their relationship gradually blooms later on, but at first they do hate each other.

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>>171363435
I liked that the final horrific revelation revolves around the role of Unit E.

Yet Ending E is their salvation in the end.

>>171363787
9S leaves and as Auguste reveals Friedrich succeeds at reviving him.

Just got my second pod program, why won't it let my cycle between the programs with left or right dpad even though I have 2?

>>171362931
They're designed to extract your genetic material as effectively as possible, after all. For the glory of mankind.

>>171363652
I kept excepting Father Servo to reappear again in some form.

Was a little sad that he didn't.

>>171363828
>mfw the shut-in is still in his room after everyone in the village dies
>can't unlock the door for some reason to let him out

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I just wanted to post this here.

>>171363860
>implying she doesn't kill both in the end because repeating cycles.
Emil clone only sees her in the future after all.

>>171363940
That's for cycling between pods, not programs, you have to go into the menu to change programs, but you can eventually have three pods that each have a different program equipped

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>>171363940
The d-pad is for cycling between different pods, not powers. Once you find a second pod you can equip a different power to it though.

And I think pressing the side of the touchpad brings up a slightly quicker way to equip your pod with different programs.

>>171363940
You need two PODS to cycle between them, Pods are just shells/containers for the programs.

So you're gonna have to find another pod and have each program loaded in an independent pod. You can't pause and use the menu to switch what program is on a pod but it's nowhere near as convenient.

>>171364017
>can't unlock the door for some reason to let him out
He did say he would make a lock so strong even 9S wouldn't be able unlock it

>>171364087
shite, okey doke. when's the soonest I can get a second pod?

>>171364091
>touchpad
anon...

>>171363652
>The wise machines realize that death is the only freedom
Father Servo found his enlightened path in the end.
He truly polished his soul before he went.

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>>171364058
Emil clone can barely remember what he had for breakfast.

>>171364127
>Machine Network uses it for the Towers barrier.
It's all coming together.

>>171364201
He remembered we fucking stole his shit though

>>171364201
He remembers his friends even if by appearance only much better than food.

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>>171364193
>9S just says he's glad to be free of that annoying robot
>2B doesn't seem to agree

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>>171362921
You have to put it on normal on some stages to unlock certain weapons if you want to unlock Ending E though.

Which you probably shouldn't. It's not worth it.

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>>171363652
>>171364342
>"Glad we'll never have to see him again!"
>"Right..."
>single tear rolls down 2B's cheek

>>171364091
>trying to map this on PC
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH. I COMPLETED THIS ON PS4 AND DELETED MY SAVE DATA BEFORE I REALIZED I COULD PET POD.

BRAVO TARO THIS IS THE TRUE SUFFERING

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How should I go about dodging the goliath's horizontal strike at the start of the mech flight?

Did we ever see what Zero could do with her song? And what was her Daemon supposed to be?

People still streaming this game or anything?

>>171364494
Just hit the dodge button or fly upwards
ezpz

>>171364494
Dodge in the edge of the saw, don't dodge in the middle

>>171364494
I think you can usually phase through it if you time the dodge right and move through the hit.

>>171364371
That looks good. Are you emulating this?

>>171364515
I think it's just a general power-boost along with her turning into a Queen Beast at the end.

I don't recall anything about her having summoning powers like the others.

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>>171364698
Oh, that's actually a screenshot from Drakengard 3.

Drakengard 1's a bit rougher.

Is there anything even as dark as Arioch in general in D3/Nier/Auto?

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>>171364048
The biggest surprise, is that was the one time he wasn't trolling.

>>171362391
>>171361874
Oh cmon. I just got off a happy ending of st.patricks day drinking and getting hit on. I don't need this.
I was free, anon!
I was FREE!

>>171364515
is the final song not her song?

>>171364910
She only wants to eat children...

>Genocider Four
>Human experimentation and homicidal manic Three

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I can only play with decent FPS if I drop the resolution to 640x480.

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>>171364910
Arioch didn't have a whole lot going for her character outside the twisted premise of her backstory, but yeah, there's some pretty dark outcomes for characters in the other games.

Especially involving kids... Pretty sure that Taro has a vendetta against children...

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I rarely do this, but is there a decent reshade? I just feel its super washed out and I'm shit at making settings.

>>171365110
Except seirei

Fuck him

>>171365147
The right one looks the best.

>>171364954

I took that as only being able to be done when all of the sisters were dead.

>>171364992

Genocide is kinda' garden variety madness, it's more her hypocrisy and shit that makes her such a pice of shit imo.

Three is twisted, but come on man, Arioch not only kills and eats children, she thinks it's keeping them safe.

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>>171364910
>>171365110
>Why are they screaming?
>Why Are They Crying?
>WHY ARE THEY CALLING OUT TO ME?!

>>171365147
>I just feel its super washed out

>he doesn't know that's a design choice
>he doesn't pay attention to the lore
>he doesn't understand why it looks bleak

Are popola and devola alright

>>171365332
Anon, unless their was a change in the atmosphere.

which there wasn't. Colors won't be bleak

>>171365346
They never were.

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>>171365346
Well I like em.

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>finaly got my lazy jp save to lv 99

Time for a game of dodgeball.

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>>171365258
Which one?

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>>171365346

>>171365147
The fun joke is, like the only reason this background detail even matters, Nier and Automata are so washed out and bloom lit because the the earth is tidal locked and the sun has beaten down on the planet constantly for thousands of years.

Granted, the actual, catastrophic, realities of a tidally locked planet are ignored by Taro, but I don't want to rant about that again.
I'm willing to pull some headcanon bullshit and pretend that Angelus' corpse ended being used for something to keep the planet from boiling over.

>>171365454
But are they dead?

I want to hug 2

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>>171365346
They're cute.

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>Hard
>4 hrs of watching the prologue
>get up to mech fight against goliath
>get one shot because my dodge button breaks
>30 minutes later, finally beat the bastard
It's finally over

>>171365578
thanks cavia

>>171365346
I didn't understand why they were hated by other Androids for the reasons they were.

It honestly feels like its a japanese thing. Like how I'd heard this story of a young girl in a rural village that everyone thought was cursed, for some reason, and just irrationally blamed her for anything.

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>>171365346


>>171365551
Right, but it needs a tad more saturation.
Very very sllight.

>>171365652
Congrats on the tutorial!

What was your favorite area theme?
Honestly, i don't it really gets much better than the Tower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W6X4V3FNwg
It's just so perfect

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>>171365601
>Aytoo likes Nines

I need some help. 54/60 done
I know I have to do:
55 Pascal info gather
56 4S
57 Flowers for Emil
58 Gathering keepsakes
What 2 I may be missing? I have shitload (~30%) of inventory completion missing. How should I wrap this up?

>got ending E
>Suddenly lose all energy to play NieR because it just feels wrong to play again after that end
Maybe tomorrow I'll finally start my Hard mode playthrough

>>171365578
I think the plant being tidally locked is a metaphor for the unending machine war where both sides are in a stalemate, it's the 14th war for crying out loud

>>171365740
Funny enough, right is completely default. But it urks me how their is no dof in this at all to help the poor distance rendering.

also I for some reason have a hard on for vintage

Is it accurate to say that Nier all started because Caim thoughti t'd be a good idea to ram into the Grotesquerie Queen?

Why did doing that transport them all to Tokyo again?

>>171365808
Go back to Chapter 2. When you're told to go to the desert, go back to the Bunker for a quest from the Commander.

Upgrade all weapons for the last quest.

>>171365882
PARALLEL DIMENSIONS WOOOO

>>171365290
>Arioch not only kills and eats children
Uh huh, and?

>Four kills elves just for being elves despite them running away and surrendering as they're screaming in terror
>Three murders people in front of their families to get the horror and despair and other negative emotions to create the perfect experiments because she's insane
>The homunculus in Two's DLC

Not quite downplaying Arioch but at least in Drakengard 3, there's some pretty fucked up stuff that happens. NieR is more on things just being depressing.

>>171365815
Took me 3 days to boot my console to start cleaning up missing stuff.>>171365836

>>171365836
I think DoF is completely unneeded in a game like this, especially if you're going to be looking forward the entire time.
If you want DoF it needs to be unnoticable.

Also you may not like it, but default is default probably for a good reason in developer's intentions. I had no idea that was the default.
This sort of is nice, but I honestly don't think it's for this game, to be honest.

>>171365815
Three weeks already and barely played any vidya

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>>171365753
I knew it was the tutorial, I knew the game would only begin now, but seeing the brightness and volume settings made me die a little inside

>>171366105
don't worry it only gets easier

>>171362593
15 minutes rhythm game boss

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Any chance of Automata collabs with mobages?

Can anyone give me some advice on what weapon combos are good in Automata?

>>171362593
boss rush or survival would be fun

>>171366224
An Automata collab in FFBE or FFRK would be about the only things to get me back into those, so I hope they don't do it

>tfw didn't know how to self destruct until almost 40 hours of playtime all because I turned the self destruct option off when 9S was performing maintenance
Did anyone else exhaust his dialogue during that the first time they played too? Then turning it back off immediately after turning it on for the other dialogue? I thought it was a nice touch

>>171365882
Because the Gods(Taro) deemed it necessary

>>171365808
>>171365887
Oh yeah, and probably wise machine bacause after 3rd one and jump when I change chapters I end up with these little shits respawned on map even tough I've saved.

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>>171366040
well my big problem is stuff like this image keeps happening. And without some sort of distance blur it's very obvious when it happens.

And this is on a i7-5820k, Asus Rampage V Extreme and a 8GB GTX 1070.

If I didn't have these texture and model problems I wouldn't bother with it too much.

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>switch to normal for for prologue boss
>switch to hard for rest of the game
>get my ass beat on hard until I realize that the evade in Automata can be done at literally any time, even if you're in the middle of an attack or in the middle of getting hit
>you can just spam evade
>equip beastlord on light and virtuous treaty on heavy
>kit my chips to shit on enemies on a purely aggressive basis and set 9S to constantly shoot things
>become unstoppable
>up until the fight with that naked guy where 9S kept triggering his parry
Is the rest of the game going to be like this

It's pretty stylistic and as a Tarofag I'm enjoying the story, the pause menu aesthetic is also driving me up the wall, but I'd still like to know

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Is HUD: Sound waves useful?

>>171366298
Pretty much, it is not a difficult game

>>171366298
>>switch to normal for for prologue boss
>>switch to hard for rest of the game

What was the point?

>>171362593
HUMANS WEREN'T DEAD ALL ALONG
ALIENS WERE DIGGING TO GET TO LAST SECRET HUMAN SUBTERRANEAN BASE
ALL THE LOCKED ELEVATORS WILL TAKE YOU DEEPER AND DEEPER UNTIL YOU FINALLY FIND THE FINAL BOSS WHO HAS ALL THE ANSWERS AND WAS CONTROLLING EVERYTHING ALL ALONG
Yoko is the final boss

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>>171366275
they respawn but they're not sidequests

>>171366334
I actually removed it to get an extra 2 points of space for something else because I realized that I had it in for the entire game and completely forgot it was even there and never paid any kind of attention to it

How the fuck do i pet the pod. On PC with an xbone controller.

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>>171366358
I myself was tempted to do so, but imo felt like it would cheapen the hard experience

>>171365882
Because the queen was eating The Great Time, and thus the very fabric of the world.

>>171366161
Unless you try to do every side quest early like i did

>>171365075
640x480 is a decent resolution, I finished plenty of games in it just fine.

>>171365816
I am desperately trying to source this.

I am finding mixed info. It was a detail for Nier, 9S repeats this in Automata.

"Tidal locked" might be misinformation, as now I'm seeing, again unsourced, that it was actually the axis that completely tilted and that's why parts of the earth are always in daylight.
Which might be more plausible, as the planet is still rotating.

As far as metaphor, sure.
It can always be a metaphor. Replicants and Shades, now the stagnation of the YoRHa & Machine proxy war.

>>171366358
The learning curve at the start for getting hit by the drill arms being a one hit ticket back to the starting cutscene + shmup section

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>replaying game after sacrificing save
>just finished route A
>didn't feel anything
I just don't know, lads. I was able to go through Nier's second half like 8 times in a row if you count reading a 100% LP beforehand, but Automata is just kind of...eh.

I think it's too dependent on catching you off guard with curveballs, so when you know they're coming, there's not much left to it.

Also, the gameplay isn't so great. I'm playing on Hard since everything melts on Normal, but instead of being exciting, it's just tedious. Anything that isn't a bullshit instagib can be healed through, and bullshit instagibs are almost nonexistent once you get some +HP chips.

Feels fucking bad, man.

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>>171366426

>>171366168
i like you and i like your idea

>>171366509
Cavia was too lazy to make a day/night cycle

>>171365579
Don't think so ? Popola did managed to fry her circuits but that is something that can be fixed. I am sure devola was pretty capable of fighting on her own.

>>171366224
>9S has two swords

>game can be played in windowed mode with a controller
>while mouse and keyboard are being used at the exact same time on another screen or split screen

This is amazing, the fuck don't more game support this?

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Using Valve left eye, which skin should I use for my pod? I'm really digging Weiss but I feel one of the pods like cardboard or retro would fit better even though it's fixed in the cutscenes anyways.

>>171365754
that or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKPVCsIdGD8

>>171366578
Well, that's obvious. But it has become more than just a joke at this point.

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>>171366690
every time

>>171366608
She was wounded though. Wish the game would give a definitive answer

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Wouldn't this be a really strong chip?

>>171366556
there isn't much feeling in route A in general though, its all setup for the wild ride of route c/d

as for combat I kinda see what you're saying, but try to vary your weapons more and try to make use of every possible combo, at this point i'm just trying to make every fight look as stylish as possible without taking any damage

but you could just be fatigued in general. nier came out in 2010 man, 7 years ago. you change a lot in 7 years wether you realize it or not, so comparing your experience with the first nier when you were in that time isn't fair to you in the present with nier automata.

ultimately if you arent feeling it, then give it a breather, its a taxing experience. i'm sure you're feeling the same void as most of us in this thread after beating it, in that case probably any game you play won't feel as good to play

>>171366845
yes, it is very useful in Hard along with Overclock

>>171366845
Worth it on hard

>>171366845
Depends on the difficulty and the enemy. On Hard and Very Hard you take a lot of damage in single hits and get that "heavily damaged" slow down effect that lets you start spamming evade anyways

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>>171366845
Nah, go +8 HP chip instead.

>>171366295
This is either a port or PC problem. Either way I've never had this issue on PS4. . .
I'm not really sure what advice to give.

Will Emil re spawn if I defeat him? His shop is useful

>>171366845
i used it through most of my hard playthough, but when i eventually got the punishment i deserved i lost that chip bundle. but after losing it i didn't really miss it that much, so its useful but not really necessary. i guess you could say that for all of the chips though.

>>171367091
actually it happened to me on ps4 all the time, I don't have a pro though.
I had no idea it also happened on pc, that's pretty stupid.
Does the pc version have any other glaring problems?

>>171367141
what use is it when you already maxed out all your weapons and by that point in the game you should have multiples of any worthwhile chip

>>171367141
You get a game ending if you defeat the super Emil centipede so it's a moot point

http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/ (embed)
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/ (embed)
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/ (embed)
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/ (embed)
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/ (embed)
Friendly reminder that one day I will stop forcing this poll

>>171367196
mite have problems with Nvidya stuff from what I heard. Also has problem with fullscreening the game at 1080. Could be a couple of things desu.

Protip you can just savescum your lost chips

>>171367257
what are you talking about?

>>171366387
So why they are marked as ones?

>>171365549
>1st attempt
>hard to self heal with corpses everywhere
>hard to heal with balls everywhere
>dies to enrage

Wasn't expecting that. <_<

A2 is cuter than 2B

>>171367327
There's an Emil fight out in the Emil clone graveyard that ends the game once you beat it

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how important is finding fishing holes and do I need the module

>>171367141
Yes. The other anons are mistaking what you're saying with a different fight.

>>171367257
well, no, you get an ending if you let centipede detonate. if you do, you still have emil's determination listed as unfinished

>>171367281
that's an extremely generic statement though, what do you mean by problems with fullscreening? Like what is actually happening, what's the issue?

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Operator outfit is basically YoRHa assault aromor without everything that makes it shit?

>>171367427
I want you to read your post and think to yourself; "Should I be asking something as trivial as this or should I play the game and find out for myself?"

>>171367427
very important, you should really be fishing literally every chance you get. explaining why would spoil the story, just fish as much as you can and you'll see what i mean later in the game. about 60% of your total playtime should be fishing. there are rare bodies of water with unique fish as well so be on the lookout

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>>171367535
I need answers, fishing related answers

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>>171367427
Fishing holes are important if you want to fish and also no. Literally any body of water you can just plonk pod into.

>>171367463
It's generic and vague because all I see is people saying "it's stretching and blurry" and this is a common problem on steam. It's also day one, so yes, vagueness will happen. I don't have the PC version so I can't really give you anything other than hearsay.

I heard if you get Emil's mask you fight him after so that's the part I was referring to

>>171367595
Okay. Find out for yourself and actually play the game.

>>171367421
it ends the game if you DON'T beat it

>>171367360
same reason your non-existent corpse shows up as one in chapter 2 and why disabled save points do too

they're event markers, not actual sidequests

>>171367609
sounds like the usual complaints you get for every single pc game tbqhwyf

>>171367634
he should still be wheeling and dealing if you defeat him. i guess you got kinda spoiled but if you knew you'd be fighting him after taking his mask you probably knew about the second encounter anyways. if not, i'm sorry

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>playing on hard
>just finish a boss fight without getting touched
>cool
>forget I'm on hard
>get instant gibbed by a pig

>>171367743
do not anger the boars, boars are for drifting not for bullying

>>171367717
true, but someone did post an image of what it looked like earlier on /v/. I regret not saving it.

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Gotta go fast!

>Let's ask director Yokoo a simple question 2: Why doesn't it ever get completely dark at night? Yokoo: The axis of the earth has changed in that time period, the sun won't sink below the horizon even at night – it’ll be like a midnight sun.
>Creator'sInterview
>TranslatedbyDefade
From that Grimoire Nier translation thing.

There we go. I can let it go now. It's always daytime, but the lighting does cycle, and the earth isn't catastrophically boiled to death.

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>Because this is the world my friend tried to save!

>>171368115
>my friend

my love

>>171368115
Did he, though? He kinda didn't give a fuck about anything but Yonah. Maybe Emil is idealizing the guy too much.

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Is this the deepest lore?

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>You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B, aren't you?

>>171368086
I hit the guy with slow and it worked. Free completed quests.

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Where would Raiden fit into this game? How would he interact with the characters, and so on?

>>171368187
He was doing what he thought was the right thing to do and didn't know any better and Emil doesn't know about Project Gestalt so he was also unaware that the actions of Nier were actually dooming humanity. Look at it from Emil's point of view.

>>171368326
I got a bit of a Raiden vibe from both 9S and A2 at the ending.

>>171368229
Thing is, he isn't saying fuck, he is saying kill.

>>171368337
he doesn't? weren't everyone present when Dev and Pop threw the documents at them?

>>171368326
the real question is how would kaine interact with 2b, 9s, and their pods

The worst 'twist' was That gestalts were inside the alien based machines. This was pretty predictable. But what happened to replicants? I thought the androids would be replicants.

>>171368326
I think he would be a good match for A2 bwaaaka side

>>171368402
That was right at the end though and Emil was probably in disbelief as much as Nier was. You have to remember, that at that point, Devola and Popola were the enemies.

God created humans and went fuck knows where still being worshipped
Humans created androids and went fuck knows where (died) still being worshipped
Is this Taro take on religion?

>>171368326
He's kind of irrelevant.
He'd be even more outdated than Devola and Popola, even if he's a bombastic Platinum Games killing machine.

He'd have some value as a human, but he'd need some drastic hardware upgrades.

>>171368445
?????

>>171368445
>hat gestalts were inside the alien based machines
nani?

>>171368445
Gestalts are ded buddy

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Your thoughts when DePo pointed their swords at you before Tower's enterance (and how you felt when they assaulted machines behind you)?

>>171368445
it could hardly be called a twist seeing how heavily its implied even from the start. in fact, seeing how they went about it, they full on expect that (if you played the first nier) to know why the bots are acting the way they are. not like specifically, but have a general idea.

>>171368643
>these two cunts don't even sing for me in this game before they turn on me
>oh, but why
>oh :(

>>171368643
Teared up more in A2's route outside the door when Popola is pretty much keeled over and Devola weakly asks you if they did okay.

love them and all this art they're getting in their new outfits.

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>torn book
>tech manual
>Thick Dictionary
Do I sell these?

>>171368827
Something actually uses them. Maybe a Pod upgrade.

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>>171368949
Cool, also do these stack?

>>171368827
>does this item have "can be sold" in its description?
yes, then sell it
no, then its an upgrade material

>>171369006
I actually know the answer.
Yes. There is a limit to how much of a single effect will stack, I think it's the bonus of a fully upgraded chip. You can stack chip effects up to that limit.

>>171369006
i'm pretty sure those don't stack, but if they do, a warning will pop up when you've exceeded the limit.

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So anyone still not fixed the aspect ratio bug and black bars? You just have to turn on GPU scaling in the drivers.

>>171362149
moar

Which tracks aren't mentioned enough when people gush about this soundtrack?

I personally think War and War is amazing.

>>171369147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Figo-QTW0

The more I think about the Tower sequence in hindsight, the more heart wrenching the whole thing really even before the end.
9S having to slaughter the remaining YorHa units is just fucked even without extra dialogue or cutscenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns-TkcFEyHM

>>171369187
Some say this is out of place
I honestly love it

>>171369006
They do stack. I did that fucking High Speed machine with +5 +6 speed (14%-16% iirc) rounded to +20% (+10chip value) but this way costed me 50slots

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>>171368643

>>171369189
Also how N2 has you kill some machines before reveling you the end of the YorHa project.

Goodnight, /ndg/. I'll be back to make the next thread later! Don't cap until then!
That's an order.
Or if you do, at least follow the theme of the threads.

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what the hell did I just watch

honestly i should just nuke this place

>>171369225
thats the whole reason why i love it, it comes from out of nowhere and elevates the scene. its also a good contrast to adams voice, calm and even.
in the context of the game the track does its job well of inducing a sense of, oh shit this fight is the real deal.
i can see like, if you're just listening to the soundtrack without the game, having that song come on is jarring. but it fits so well in the game imo, and as a stand alone track it is pretty hype

>>171369342
Yeah, that part was just really weird
It wasnt even a particular hard encounter, there was hardly even a chance of being killed, especially if 9S had reached that far

>>171369429
pisseth off

>>171368445
First of all, I thought the 'shapes' the machines took inside them were gestalt. Not sure if this is true.

Also, there is a part where you have a conversation about what the currency stands for (there is a "g" at the end of the currency), and I thought this was a reference for the currency standing for gestalt. The guy says what it stands for is a secret. Any other theories?

>>171369429
The best shakespeare version

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okay, how the fuck do I trigger this mission?

>>171369503
it's a quip on how many of games' currency is G

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>>171369189
In my humble opinion beginning of C up to title screen and everything from >>171368643 through ending C>E credit roll made Automata 20/10 experience.
EMP fucking me up for the first time, DePo redemption, double tower run with character switch, 'Beauty in this world' and bropod followed by fucking Marketing Division. It's my personal Sniper Wolf snowfield scene tier. almost 20 years and still remembering. Same thing will be with this game

>>171369517
Go to the top of the wrecked goliath.

>>171369430
On the subject of Adam and Eve, I really don't know how I feel about them. I've seen some people saying they are a disappointment. I can see why they would say that but I dont really feel disappointed. Maybe people were expecting them to be like Jetstream Sam or Senator Armstrong.
At the same time, I'm just a little confused on how I'm meant to feel about them. I kept expecting to see them again during the Tower sequence, and they did in a sense but not at all like I thought. I just understand that they are the culmination of the machine's attempt to replicate human beings.

Do you have to get all endings on one save file for the trophy?

>>171369583
I did that, nothing happened.

3 times actually

>>171369225
>Some say this is out of place

>Comes on when you enter the Copied City
>Copied City is completely out of place and bizarre
>This music is out of place and bizarre
>Fits that section perfectly

>>171369429
You're like the clown machine in that's close to the stage saying "I don't understand!"

>>171369517
Try going to one of the other markers.

>>171369429
Well, when you do that you should probably go ahead and join them anon.

>>171369429
Foreshadowing out of the ass and the best version of Romeo and Juliet
>>171369439
N2 didn't let them out because it would kill 9S but more to just fuck with him.

If someone has problems understanding Automata's story this might help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqrMlOUkfc0

Spoilers, obviously.

When do sidequests show up in this game? I just beat up the naked guy and watched another crawl out of him and as far as I've seen there's been no sidequests other than the tower comms

lines that don't make sense

>life is a constant stream of embarrassment
>coming from a box of metal

>this is the world my friend tried to save
>save

>I never realised how beautiful this world is
>what made her realise this

>>171369668
I honestly don't understand how anyone could have trouble understanding Automata's story as a standalone experience. It only becomes complicated when you start bringing in the Drakengard references.

So I just started playing, gathering intel mission, did the weapons guy quest, talked to the yoko taro wannabe, picked up the other shop quest and I've killed everything in both the green area and the desert and still haven't gotten a broken key to drop. Do I just have to like wait for shit to respawn and farm those areas until it does?

I assume I need to do this shop quest right? Because the "gathering intel" mission gives me no objective right now and I've explored every area I can other then that place across the bridge that had the level 20 giant robot which nearly killed me in one hit

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>>171369429
yeah fuck this place they're getting nuked

Was ending C a bad end?

>>171369676
Around here somewhere pins should start popping up when you go back to the camp. Wait a while to unlock fast travel though not worth all the running.

>>171369594
after route A i felt they were very underutilized. but after route B and you got those cutscenes with them, it pretty much covered everything that needed to be covered.
both humanoid creations from the machines, but one has an insane desire to figure out what being human is, while the other is ironically more human in his mannerisms and desires.

as characters I like them a lot. I feel they could have played a bigger role, but if they did it may have infringed on the bigger arc. I'm content with how they turned out, but like with a2, i can definitely understand wanting to see more of them

>>171369748
That quest sometimes is broken and doesn't drop the materials, save and go back to the title screen. That happened to me too

I kind of wish they'd given some of the joke endings cinematics just to fuck with people.

>>171369824
>everybody is dead and 9S went (or not) to space for Adam and Steve homo adventures
Gee, I wonder

>>171369430
I thought the timing of all the songs was fucking spot on.

>>171369676
Here's how I read your post:

>I don't know how to look at my map or progress just a tad farther to see if anything shows up

>>171369713
>machine LIFEFORMS
>they're gaining a conscious
>having existential thoughts
>machine core has similarities with plants

>not looking at it from Emil's point of view and how he saw Nier's actions

Haven't thought about the last one just yet

>>171369713
You haven't been paying attention, have you?

1) Pod gained self awareness and the being able to move around and think for themselves equates to them being alive.

2) To Emil, he wasn't around when ???? killed the shadowlord nor could he have known the repercussions of killing him.

3) Something related to point 1, she realized that simply existing as a hivemind is dull and realized that having different ideas and opposing views are beautiful.

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>>171369908
>hire a different artist to draw some comical ending splash image for endings f-Z for the giggles
Wasted opportunity.

>>171369914
no that ending D
I mean the end where the tower collapses

>>171369908
You know that would cut into Taro's beer expenses.

>>171369968
Get whoever did the pop-up comics for Drakengard 3 to do it.

>>171369948
>>171369958
but the Pods only recently gained self-consciousness

the way 153 says it made her sound like a grandma

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>>171369948
>here's how I translated your post into something I could use to shitpost against you with

>>171369921
agreed, the soundtrack is amazing, i honestly think it may be the best soundtrack in any game i've played overall. not in just the tracks themselves, but the timing of the tracks, the variety, its just so spectacular.

>>171370015
Ah, my mistake. I consider C as open and followed straight by E. Maybe because they seem to fit, maybe because I unlocked them together after pure D.

>>171370085
Maybe you should, gee I don't know, play the game? How hard is it to just play the game and find things out for yourself? I've played the game from start to finish without having to stop and ask stupid questions.

>>171369958
A2 was never part of a hivemind no? She basically operated on her own and was wanted by Yorha.

>>171370185
She was part of it but disconnected herself after command fucked up her unit.

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>>171370181
>get proven to be condescending dickhole for literally no reason
>initiate sudden death mode where I must continue shitposting harsher because I cannot lose
I don't know dude, I feel like one of us here has bigger problems

>>171369921
Sound and music director should win some award. The moments when music gets quieter or louder depending the situation (like when you run into the backalley in amusement park), transition between the tracks. It's perfect.

>>171365346
They're a failure of android design.

>>171369187
>End of the Unknown
>one of the biggest reveals in the dialogue when it plays
Pottery

>>171368204
Yep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXgP-15rcjs

>>171370331
what reveal?

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>

>>171370515
Aliens being murdered by machines and machines going rogue

>>171370250
>Sound and music director should win some award.
lets just face it though, this is japanese game that isnt Final Fantasy or Zelda. It's going to get completely ignored and all awards from mainstream media are going towards Horizon Zero Dawn and Mass Effect

>>171370561
I did that but what happens next?
It's not like 50 grand is a lot in this game

>>171370561
Do it, but make sure you stick it out. There will be a conclusion.

>>171370563
oh yeah that one, my jaw dropped to the floor truly shocking

>>171369668
Thanks for this

>>171370563
>Read that Beepy short story
>Machines going rogue from the catfish
>A "reveal"
>Machines and androids colluding in some keikaku
>A "reveal"

>>171370634
Why are the masses jacking off Horizon anyway?

>>171370803
Geographically big open world that caters to western audiences

>>171370803
It's like Far Cry, Mass Effect, and Tomb Raider/Uncharted
It's all of the tropes of modern AAA gaming
Sounds excited right? What more could you ask for in a game?

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Jesus fucking christ could this game be optimized any fucking worse than it is.

I had to give it a negative review on steam because I can't even run the fucking game, and yes I meet the system requirements.

>>171370803
Literally just an AAA game. I personally stayed away because it reminds me far too much of a later Assassnis Creed game. I feel like I'd do everything in it in 15 hours and be completely done despite dropping sixty bones.

>>171369061
>I think it's the bonus of a fully upgraded chip
Maybe more, when you stack HP chips the cap is 200% of your HP, that's 2 +6 chips.

>>171363034
Jesus Christ the THICCNESS.
Who is this?

>second playthrough
>decide to rush through the main story until chapter select
>now at route b heavily underlevelled, only upgraded my weapon once because I didn't find the materials, have shit chips and way too few of them

I'm starting to regret this.

>an one hour tutorial that can't be skipped, where you can't save, that has a boss can oneshot you from full HP and takes ages to kill AND when you die you go to the beginning of the game
Who the fuck thought that this would be a good idea?

torrent/crack for the nier game yet?

>>171371523
consider not dying in the tutorial level
if you're on hard, drop to normal just for the tutorial, thats what most people did

>>171371523
You have to earn your right to save and play the rest of the game.

Git gud.
I have never seen anyone die in the tutorial what are you doing wrong?

>>171371523
Maybe you should learn to dodge you shitter.

>>171362593
Kaine/Zero costumes and weapons. Weird how DoD3 had more cosmetics than NA.
A2 chapters starting from her Yorha days and up until 2B's death.
Boss rush.

>>171371523
>People who play on hard without understanding any of the mechanics of a game they've never played
I will never understand these people. I have a friend who always plays games on the hardest difficulty setting and literally bursts into fits of rage when he dies, but he doesn't even look at the controls before starting. tl;dr your retarded

>>171371578>>171371584>>171371612
>consider not dying in the tutorial level
Kind of hard when you just got to a boss and only started to learn his attacks and his first attacks that wasn't a projectile spam/run away from the falling floor just instagibs you and you have to do the entire factory all over again and you can't just bum rush it because it's fucking hard mode and even normal enemies can kill you in two hits.
>if you're on hard, drop to normal just for the tutorial, thats what most people did
I'm seriously considering it.
>>171371741
>tl;dr your retarded
Not going to deny that, I am a stubborn retard.

>>171371139
Denuvo
>inb4 pirate
I bought the game three times including on steam, denuvo only delays piracy by a handful of days at the cost of performance and severe limitations of modding, the sooner they start losing money from bribing these many people and have to shut down the better

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>>171371772
The difficulty scaling in this game is kinda weird.

>>171370664
Anger and a reasonable statement all things considered.

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Is there a good 9S wallpaper I can use?
I only found this and it sucks.

>>171370561
I actually felt bad for the guy.

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>>171372232
I'm using this screenshot I took
This game is very picturesque

>>171371956
>handful of days
>still denuvo filled games people are STILL trying to crack months later and are having zero success
Maybe if it was the first few to roll out but shits fucking ironclad now.
Unless theres some insane breakthrough somewhere Automata won't be cracked anytime soon.

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>>171371558
Second this.

>>171371558
>>171372370
Probably never.
Denuvo's pretty good at what they do now.

>>171372335
The edges look so bad though in all the screenshots I take with my PS4.

Wonder if it's better in the PC version.

>>171361581
Playing this in 640x400 on my business laptop with keyboard only, which I think would make Yoko Taro proud.

How do I pet my pod with no ps4 touchpad though?

>>171372339
I don't give a shit personally because I buy pretty much all my shit unless it's unavailable for purchase for whatever reason
But Denuvo is locking a lot of people out of playing the game that have lower end pcs, that cannot be good for sales at all

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>>171372232
Oops, last post had the image at a weird resolution.