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>Developer Update | Introducing Orisa
[YouTube] Developer Update | Introducing Orisa | Overwatch

>Live Patch Notes
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753535162

>PTR Patch Notes
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20594521

>PTR Hero Changes
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753516591#post-2

>Overwatch Dev Tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Permalink
https://owg.pleb.pl

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say goodbye to the cancerous heal meta
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>>171354831
Such a poor OP. Nothing about PTR changes, and that first Youtube link is fucked too.

Also: Hana Song.
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I have been autistic since I was little, and I struggled. Struggled in school, social interaction, the whole package. Years later, after getting a tiny bit more control on it and such, I got overwatch. I immediately became a Symmetra main, due to how much I enjoyed playing her, and how much I found her easy. Then, after a while, she gets a whole rework. I enjoy it, and continue playing. Then, I hear news that she's on the spectrum.

My face lit up with joy.

She was always hated, and I continued playing. Just...seeing her have autism, and seeing her try her hardest to make the world good, and getting through everything as hard as she can just...wow.

Thank everyone on the Overwatch team for this. Idk. I can't put into words how seeing this (old) news makes me feel. Downvote for all i care, just...thanks....
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Reminder to not fall for obvious bait or be easily triggered!
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>mfw I'm playing Sombra and Ana nano-boosts me
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>>171355010
The image sums up the PTR changes pretty well
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>We feel that Lucio was being picked too much so we're going to buff him because desu senpai
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>>171355083
Only if you actually know about it!

Seriously. Don't create OPs "just because". Make an effort. And if you can't the arsed to, let someone else make a better OP.
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>>171354876
> Zen is a waste of a slot over any other healer.
That's so bloody wrong, Zen deals a decent amount of dps and Discord can be extremely useful, he's a good pick on dive
>Sombra is trash aside from her ult synergies
So she's not trash? Her ult charges really fast and you can have an effective team work around it
>Mercy is a waste of a healing slot.
Pharmercy is a thing and Ress is an incredibly porweful ult
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>>171354920
Ana did that already with her grenade.
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>Mercy can heal ONE target for 60 hp/s with a huge yellow beam revealing her location

>Lucio can heal everyone within line of sight including himself for 56 hp/s without revealing his location
>still the only hero with a speed boost
>can now join the ranks of other barrier heros as Sound Barrier will be up as often as revive now

>Mercy can revive the dead and be invul during it lol
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>>171355201
>muh discord
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>tfw new Amélie skins available for purchasing soon
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>>171355232
Huh?
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>keep forgetting I have to tell our Lucio's in competitive not to bother dropping sound barrier when our team is caught in a Zarya ult because I'm going to pop transcendence

Seriously, it wasn't even like there was an Ana grenade splashed on us. They always wait a second after my ult and pop it anyway
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>>171355304
Can't wait
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>>171355223
Rez should give everyone 5 seconds on invulnerable desu.
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>tfw the only fully dedicated healer in the game that has to actively stop healing to do literally anything else is also the worst healer in the game
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What changed on the ptr?
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>>171355463

don't buff rez again buff the rest of her kit god damn
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>>171355218
>That's so bloody wrong, Zen deals a decent amount of dps and Discord can be extremely useful, he's a good pick on dive
He's not as good as Lucio and the enemy Ana will just shit all over your ult, making it basically worse than useless because you can't even cancel it to attack.

>So she's not trash? Her ult charges really fast and you can have an effective team work around it
She's trash outside her ult. Waste of a DPS slot.

>Pharmercy is a thing and Ress is an incredibly porweful ult
Pharmercy stops being effective the moment enemy hitscan can start aiming. So platinum, maybe. Rez is powerful but nanoboost is leagues better if used right. Mercy doesn't have enough utility or healing to justify picking her just for the ult.

Game balance is currently a fucking mess and has been for a while. Boring as watching paint dry when nearly every team is the same comp. Some combo of

>Winston/Rein/Zarya/Roadhog
>Ana/Lucio
>76 and maybe Genji/Tracer

23 heroes and only like 9 are viable enough to be useful.
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>>171355223
>Lucio can heal everyone within line of sight including himself without revealing his location
>without revealing his location

You have literally not even played the PTR have you, Lucio's healing aura is so small he has to be smack dab in the center of his team

Also the 54 hp/s is only during the 3 second duration of his amp
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>just want a chill mystery heroes game
>have to babysit golds against 3-stack of grandmasters
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>>171355571
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20635660#patchnotes
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tfw Mercy will get the blizzard treatment eventually and drip with powercreep
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>>171355576
i've got almost 200 hours on mercy and i didn't even notice that last "buff" desu
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>>171355304
I want to go to bloo's ballet show
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>>171355598
>Pharamercy stops being effective the moment enemy hitscan can start aiming. So platinum, maybe

jej this is how I know you haven't faced good Pharahs being pocketed. Pharah can just drop out of the sky if she's taking too much heat or just annihilate whoever is shooting her, it is a legitimately strong combo no matter the level of play.

The "hitscans make pharah unplayable" meme needs to die already
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>>171355728
It's really noticable. It's not gamewinning, but it let's you do minor outplays
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Why does Blizzard hate this pure, innocent angel?
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>>171355701
mercy is chu's waifu and chu doesn't get to determine the game balance

ana is jeff's waifu
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>>171355872
tfw Reinhardt is Jeff's power fantasy

IT ALL MAKES SENSE
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>>171355816
So why does Pharah's pickrate drop like a stone above plat?
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Gaurdian angel needs to be nerfed to be quite honest with you senpaitachi
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>>171355872
he's jeff's? I always wondered whose it was
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>>171355937
people learn to aim
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>>171355937
>people who play comp only want to play heroes that statistically give them a higher chance of winning

GEE
WONDER
WHY
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>>171355728
Since you play her so much, how would you improve her?

I'd really like more mobility, and the ability shoot without switching.
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>tfw too shy to talk in voicechat
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>attacking on eichenwalde
>enemy team has a rein/bastion/mercy cheese comp
>ask mercy to damage slut for me
>fly around and spam rockets from behind the wall using the tree as cover so they can't see me
>fill ult
>boost over the wall and ult at point blank range
>triple kill
>team rushes in and we cap in under a minute
"fucking tryhard pharah bitch" "ur shit dude fucking hiding like a fag"
>tfw justice is done

>>171355026
Why is mercy so perfect?
>tfw no biologically female mercy main gf to run pharmercy with
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>>171356091
tfw no fujo loving bf to pocket heal/boost as Mercy
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>>171355816
I'm actually a pretty good Pharah myself after all the UT and using projectile weapons in Titanfall2.

Hitscans make Pharah unplayable as soon as retards figure out how to aim with 76. Let alone when you get high enough to face good Widows.
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is there any r34 of Blue as a sexy spider girl ?
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>>171355937
>Pharah's pickrate

you mean the near 80% pickrate she has depending on the map? Just because a character isn't 76 or Ana levels where they're in literally every game does not make them trash

Also the amount of effort you need to play Pharah effectively at a high level compared to playing 76 effectively isn't worth it to most people so why bother when 76 is miles easier for roughly the same results.

If Pharah was so easily countered at high levels GM Pharah mains wouldn't exist, at all.
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>>171356075
Every time I plug the mic into my headset I end up saying nothing because nobody else does and unplugging it after a couple of games
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>>171355304
>You'll never catch her ballet show before she got bloo'd
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>>171356307
kind of a bummer because if your team communicates the game is 10x funner. Wish I had friends who played and also wasn't so shy ;-;
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>>171356205
I honestly find 76 very easy to counter as Pharah, assuming you're not just hovering in the sky making yourself an easy target for him. Hovering below his sightline if he's on highground or concussion blasting over to him to kill him in two hits is fairly easy, especially with a pocket
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>5v6 is allowed to happen in comp
literally why
the game should be cancelled after the 2 minute grace thing
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>>171356074
>merge the streams
>holding m2 spams pistol with faster switching animation
>e does an abridged caduceus emote and debuffs/burstheals everything in a small aoe with a long cooldown
>merge "prefer healing target" and "fly to whoever you're looking at" options for shift
>make shift overall less wonky
i feel like she could use a jump ability like pharah but the utility is more important and i don't want to bloat her kit
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>>171356382
She's great, just some maps she's awful. Some.
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when the music hits, you feel no pain
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What did she mean by this?
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>>171356075
>tfw you've found a group of friends who use their mics liberally but don't mind you never using one
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>>171356593
Roadhogs penis is probably thicker than her leg
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>>171356475
>Get into another game
>Someone on their team leaves
>The game is cancelled
WHAT THE FUCK
HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS RETARDED SYSTEM WORK
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>>171356664
It only cancels if someone quits in the first minute
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>>171356340
I wonder if that's how Gérard met her.
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>>171356664
game auto-cancels if someone leaves in the pre-game bit but continues if someone bails after the match has already started

it also doesn't start the automatic afk-kick timer until the match has started so that's fun
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>>171356779
That's retarded as fuck. It should either end the game or not.
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>>171356281
Ever watched a top level Pharah? Half their effort is hugging a wall to evade the hitscan's sightline. Also note massive drop in pickrate.
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>>171356827
>but continues if someone bails after the match has already started
No this was like a minute into the game.
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>>171356853
tfw ana
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>tfw start a game
>team comp is terrible but give it a go anyway
>teammates are all terrible
>try and coordinate a strategy
>Genji rushing into a 5v1, Pharah on the worst possible map for Pharah
>get frustrated and leave
>immediately feel bad

Why can't people just work as a team god dammit this isn't call of duty
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>>171356853
was gonna comment on torbjorn and then
>sombra
lord... almighty...
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>>171356907
Want to play a little?
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>>171356853
>Mei so low
what why? A really good Mei is great to have on defense and a pain to play against
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As a Lucio main, I now have to choose between healing/speeding my team or have fun when I could do both before.

I don't like this.
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>pubstomping GMs in quick play

contract cancer and die

not that any of you here are GM
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>>171357020
wait what happened? Haven't been active on ow for a few days.
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>>171357117
>low SR
>anti-trump

tfw leftist sjw libtards are silver and bronze

many keks
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>>171357117
>>171357154
please
don't
start
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>>171357154
this is the most /v/ post i have ever seen
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>>171357017
>>171356982
Even for really good players there is extreme pressure to play a 'meta' hero, come on, you know this

I play a really great Mei and Sombra in QP but I've never even bothered in Comp. I don't need to prepare a justification speech if I just go Reaper or Zarya.
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>>171354920
Ana still exists with all of her healing intact, my friend. None of the other healers had anything to do with it.
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Isn't this effectively a buff to good lucio players? You're always huddles when speed boosting and more healing is always welcomed
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>>171357180
/pol/ shitposters can only shitpost, they know nothing else

they should have stayed in the /v/ containmeny board
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>>171356853
That's partially true. Worst case is I'm taking a soldier out of the fight by distracting him but that's a fight I will win 80% of the time then shit on your team with ease. Switching to zen and a second hitscan never helps a team because I'm directly taking 3 heroes out of the fight. Any good pharah knows when they're going get outplayed by the soldier and switches off in the first two minutes. The pick rate in gm is small but I'm willing to bet we have among the highest win rates.
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>"Propaganda is useless!"

What did she mean by this?
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>>171357475
is that really what she says? I always thought it was something in Spanish
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Ignore /pol/ posts, do not talk to them or about them and move on.
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>>171357383
it would be if the radius wasnt ass
as it is right now you have to basically pocket specific players, you cant do anything, the wallriding and shit really doesnt come into play because if youre doing it youre not doing any supporting
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>>171357383
It's a definite buff to Lucios who are Widow-hunting flankers since he moves SO FAST when speed + wallride

His healing rate is NOTICABLY better and this makes him quite tanky now, think killing an Ana. With his speed boost he's so slippery no Lucio should ever die to Winston.

As for overall though, I'm not so sure. The new range is quite restrictive, and requires solid teamplay.
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>>171357548
I have no idea what it really means but that's exactly what I hear when an enemy Sombra EMPs.
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>>171357609
>>171357548
Apagando las Luces

turning out the lights
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Idea: there should be a mechanic where, if 2 players worked together to kill a bunch of people, they can both get PotG as a "Team Play of the Game", i.e. Zarya + Hanzo, Mei + Soldier, etc.
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>>171357646
I like my version more, fits with her "Cutting through the smoke and mirrors to find the true evil" thing.
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>>171356982
>tfw Sombra will never be picked until she gets overbuffed and everyone uses her like Ana and S76
I wish she didn't tilt the team so hard at the pick your hero screen. Even in QP people get mad.
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>>171357654
I can't even tell the difference between "lol baited you I reposted a suggestion from reddit that has been spammed here a billion times" and "sincere newfag pitching what he thinks is an original idea" anymore
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>>171357731
I want to pound THAT com if you know what I mean.
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>>171357731
look at all that blank space that could have been occupied by a wider speech bubble that wouldn't cut off two words
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>>171357752
I've never had people complain about my sombrero in QP, maybe you're unlucky

>got my welfare gold for mexican hat at the end of the season
now to continue to never use her in comp!
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>>171356486
>merge "prefer healing target" and "fly to whoever you're looking at" options for shift
Isn't it already like that? Or what do you mean...? And if you make the beam both heal and buff, wouldn't it be a bit overpowered? (Not to mention there'd be "less to play" as her.)

Anyway, I think Blizzard should just go with "bloating kits", in general. They did it with Ana, so why not come with new stuff for the original heroes too. Make the game(play) more nuanced and fun.
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>look down
>can't see legs
why the fuck is this allowed
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>>171357759

I can't even tell the difference between "ironically shitty person" and "truly bitter person who hasn't had fun with video games in years."

Can you?
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>Solo queue
>Get put in a game with a 5 stack against a 6 stack
>5 stack refuse to join team chat and won't respond to the things I type
>Try to follow their lead as best I can
>30 seconds in and it's obvious they couldn't find the ground if they fell over
Why does Blizzard keep doing this to me?
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>>171357809
???
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>>171357861
Yeah but only because I'm a veteran, you'll get there some day...... kid....
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>>171355025
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>>171357731
>>171357876
you cant post without source
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>our roadhog is complete garbage who never lands hooks, never does damage and constantly dies or fails to fight alongside a teammate
>gets POTG anyway
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>>171355068
Her gun sounds like it went from an airsoft pistol to some kind of Gatling Gun
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>>171357731
>that fucking perspective
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>>171357204
>>171356982
>>171357752
I've been seeing a LOT of good Sombra players on PTR. Seems like people have finally figured out how she works, and her cooldown buffs, quieter decloaking, and hacked medpacks being visible to the team have been amazing for her gameplay. I've lost count of how many times a Sombra has fucked me personally over by sneak-hacking me and teleporting out or just popped out of nowhere to EMP my team ahead of a big enemy push.

And holy fuck is she pretty much a death sentence for Orisa.
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>>171357920
Just search for Overwatch on the SadPanda
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>>171357864
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>>171355187
>heal aura completely ruined
>buff


dumb loser
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>>171357849
if you have "prefer healing target" on you will only fly to whoever your healing. if it's off than you will fly to whoever you're looking at regardless of who you're healing

the former lets you save yourself from falling off edges and makes following people around corners and such a bit easier, the latter lets you zip about without interrupting your healing, you can only choose one or the other

it should pull you to whoever you're healing when you're not looking at someone and pull you to whoever you're looking at regardless of who you're healing if you are looking at someone
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>>171357475
>>171357548
>>171357609
I always thought it was "A vandal has uses"
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>>171357589
this desu desu
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>>171357475
>>171357646
I never understood why Sombra is the only character that has friendly ults in the foreign language but enemy ults in English. Every other foreign language speaker is the other way around.
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>Blizzard finally adding the changes to 2CP I've been preaching for months

PAY ME
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>>171357748
She is the true evil though.
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>>171358019
No I'm pretty sure most people are literally just going through the motions and generally autopiloting without thinking about positioning.

Climbing from plat to gold it becomes a lot more obvious that more people have situational awarness (although obviously you still get the Reinhardts that just love dropping shield randomly)
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for the love of god will they make Torbjörn actually sound Swedish

I don't understand what their thought process was. "So let's make this Swedish dwarf, but get this, he sounds like a pirate"
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>>171358235
>Blizzard tried to add the Ana nerfs I've been preaching for months but the triggered Ana mains were too loud so Blizz backed down

END ME
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>>171357860
Very few games feature "bodies" like that, because it doesn't add much (if anything) to the gameplay. In Overwatch it would just be a straight up hindrance.

>>171357731
Y-you can see her asshole!

>>171358135
Ah. I'd just prefer that she could freely dash to any direction.
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>>171358019
I don't even think I'm that good, man. I'm average, I'd say, but when our Rein just charges through the choke, pinning no one and isolating himself a mile away from the team and the rest of them try to just run through the enemy team without shooting at anyone, it stops being a me problem.
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>>171357986
Really? I play a lot of Sombra and she seems "alright" against Orisa, but I'm never super thrilled about firing into a target that has 200 armor.

The good:
>Orisa has a huge hitbox and head hitbox, you can damage her pretty easily if you maneuver around her shield

The Bad
>If you don't lead with a hack in any Orisa fight, she'll Fortify and now your shots on her armor are dealing 1/4 damage, joke tier
>Hacking her doesn't remove her shield, you have to EMP for that
>She can still shoot you while EMPed and while her shield is up, unlike Reinhardt

The matchup isn't awful and I love to pick off a fleeing Orisa after her armor is burned off by some of our heavier hitters, but I never want to straight-engage into her, like I enjoy doing for Symmetra, snipers, healers, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, Zarya, Roadhog, or even Winston
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>>171358373
You can see Orisa's front legs. Probably because they are further forwards.
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>>171358347
Maybe you should just play Ana instead of stubbornly playing the worst support because she's your why-foo?
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>>171358313
I dunno but I just want an Engineer Cameo.

Fucking Paladins got one
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>>171358235
What are the changes?

I'm blind or they're not in the patchnotes
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>>171358513
>we should just let overpowered things be overpowered because muh skill floors
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>>171357117
>playing on my level 14 account
>whenever I see a master or higher in QP I focus them as hard as possible
>free MMR
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE DANCE EMOTES
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>yfw Lucio is going to become that much harder to kill
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>>171358557

Valve and Blizzard despise each other.
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>>171358702

AND THE HATS
AND THE CONGA EMOTES
AND THE NEW WEAPONS TO UNBALANCE THE GAME

FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU
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>>171358702
fuck that we need more sitting/stationary emotes

It's so fun sitting on the payload as your team steamrollers towards the objective
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>>171358428
I didn't mean Sombra vs Orisa in a straight-up fight, though Sombra can be a slippery little bitch. But if she hacks Orisa then the centaur-bot is nearly helpless and can be burned down by her teammates. Honestly Orisa feels squishier than all the other tanks, even Zarya and even without taking her huge headbox into account (which Blizz needs to adjust, NOW).

>>171358513
Maybe Blizzard should try making all the healers viable and not just their special snowflake grandma who retards like you always leap to defend because you're too shit to play without an overpowered crutch.
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>>171355571
>>171358646
If OP wasn't an idiot, they would have included the link: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20635660
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>mfw round fucking 6 on hanamura

Competitive PTR was a mistake
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>>171358313
Seems like they didn't decide to try and get native speakers until after the first 12 heroes were created. The only non-English line I can think of at the beginning was Hanzo's ult and then they recast Widowmaker very early on and Mercy later.
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so they're going to buff Sombra right

r-right?
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>>171358646
>Competitive Play

>A tracking system has been added to Assault and Assault/Escort Maps that will allow us to break ties based on the progress that was made toward capturing the objective.
>Developer Comments: To mitigate draws in Competitive Play, we're implementing a system that tracks each team's progress on the objective. This will work similarly to the system that's already in place for Escort and Assault/Escort maps, which grants a win to the team that pushes the payload the furthest. Now, even if neither team successfully captures the objective, a winner can be determined based on which team captured the largest portion.

>For testing purposes, the Competitive Play map rotation will be limited to Eichenwalde and Hanamura.
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>>171358172
She says "emp activated" for friendlies, and "apagano las luces" for self and enemies.
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>>171358745
HOW ARE WE EVEN SUPPOSED TO OPEN THE LOOT CASES WITHOUT KEYS
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>>171358780
>Honestly Orisa feels squishier than all the other tanks, even Zarya
The reason she feels this way is because her hitbox is much larger than Zarya's (she has the smallest tank box) and because she's less mobile (Zarya can back-peddle without any more than the normal speed penalty, but if Orisa flees she has to choose between fully turning tail or a fighting retreat at a snail's pace)
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>mfw I'm going to be top 50 Sombra by the end of season 4
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I will never understand this wanton hatred for Junkrat.
Get told to fuck off when on defense
Get told to fuck off when on offense
Get told to fuck off on KotH
Even when i get all golds, its because they sucked + our team sucking, and not because JR is a good pick

it's like bastion or symmetra all over again
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>>171358841
Whoever gets the most checkouts on the point out of the 3 or general overall time capturing it?

Has anyone played yet and can show what it's like?
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>2 people instalock widow/ana/hanzo
>Games ends because it can't find another player

THANK YOU BLIZZ
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>>171358997
just play without voice or chat

people who think communication is key in a game as simple as overwatch are retarded, its honestly not worth the hassle of listening to manchildren whine over everything especially if you're playing off-meta
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This is a short video of New Lucio's wallride speed taken by Rise Nation player Phaz

https://gfycat.com/AdmiredWildChameleon

This is not with custom game increased speed or anything, this is what the new PTR Lucio can do
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>>171358981
>tfw want to play sombra so bad but i don't see her fitting into these forced meta comps

Where do i start? I played her in qp-s a few times and it seems her skillset has potential for great plays but i still feel like i contribute only a bit to the team when i play her.
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>>171358997
It's because he's unreliable damage on anything other than rein shield and his ult isn't even guaranteed to land.
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>>171359142
>Where do i start?
Reaper, Zarya

Get your tracking really solid
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>>171359138
DEVA JU
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>>171359246
ITS DEJA VU YOU FUCK

AND NIGHT OF FIRE IS BETTER
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>>171359138
This sort of stuff looks cool in videos but isn't really practical for anything other than respawning or escaping, which Lucio is already good at by just speed boosting.

In fact this kind of DSPstanky showboating shit is even less viable now the aura range is so small
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>>171359314
>anything other than respawning
It's like Lucio can get back at "took a teleporter" speed from any death now

That's nuts
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>>171358972
True. Also that she only has 400 health and unlike Zarya her non-HP 200 is Armor which doesn't regenerate by itself. She really needs 250 HP and 250 Armor and her headbox shrunk down.

Besides that she's a lot of fun and a very effective defense tank, and she compliments the other tanks very well.
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>>171359314
>Respawning
>With he new changes to cp maps
>With the new healing
Never going to get lucios off the point
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>>171359138
>your 76 will insist you as an Ana can handle this fucking atrocity of balance
Looking forward to being called a worthless healer

>>171359147
I was under the impression JR's role was the "chaos" element, being that you are meant to force the team to break rank or stutter, trying to avoid your bombs and traps, while the rest of the team could offer the reliable portion of damage
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>>171359279
I'M JUST RUNNING IN THE NINETEYS
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Would anyone like to play competitive ?

NA support main at 1900sr

Bnet - Mollywhoppin#1159
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>>171359680
Man I am not going to make fun of you, I feel bad and I hope you climb out of there, good luck
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>>171353383
>The sad fact is nobody has been able to come up with a better ranking system yet
I wish Blizzard would try out something. I'm sure they already have statistics how different players and characters perform. Why not base skill-ratings around that? And not arbitrary wins and losses.

Even better would be a teambased ranking, where the whole team shared their SR. But that again would actually mean they'd have to add clan-support for their team-based game...

>>171359279
>NIGHT OF FIRE IS BETTER
*GAS GAS GAS*
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>>171359246
>>171359279
>>171359601
>>171359725
Have you heard Night Rocker?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWnC79QoDKs
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Discuss
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>>171359867
who would want to fuck a dirty autist?
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>>171359867
do symmetra mains even exist?
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>>171355025
bad bait, you posted it in the last thread and no one cared. kys
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>>171359142
Sounds corny, but check out Codey's streams. Positioning, flank routes and hack priority are very important and can easily be learned. You need to be able to disengage from any fight with a translocator placed beforehand., the only exception is when you're going for an EMP. Also you need to be able to lock down high-ground on every map it's available (so pretty much all of them except Oasis).

Her skill ceiling is one of the highest in the game (equal or greater than Genji, imo) so a lot of it will come with time and practice.
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>>171359725
Originally Jeff wanted to make it so that you could ONLY queue in groups of six because he felt the only way to truly fairly rate people was as a team, but he said there was an overwhelmingly large majority of people who said they need to be able to solo queue

Which is weird, have you ever met even ONE PERSON who doesn't have five friends available to play at all times? You'd have to be a fucking social pariah
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>>171359867
Anyone who "mains" a hero deserves hard rape, since the game practically revolves around changing heroes mid match to fit the situation

As far as actual sex with symmetra, i'm pretty sure, even if she liked you, she would show very little, if any emotion while you bang. probably stare at you vacantly and not even moan or grunt, just deadfish the whole thing
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>5am
>high off my ass
>blasting samfree's night songs (may his soul rest in peace)
>gengu
>"hi guys am gengu dont know how to play am drunk le lol xD"
>keep spamming chat with moonspeak

>hanamura 2cp
>nobody looking, nobody around
>wtf
>cap point alone as gengu
>絶対狂人!!!!!!!!!!

>after a few sets of the matches
>"ugh its the drunk genji"
>[Player] left the game.
>[Player] left the game.
>[Player] left the game.

I HAVE MASTERED THE ART OF DRUNKEN BLADEもっと強くなりたい

gg wp oyasumi /owg/ lu
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>>171360012
Do pyro mains in tf2 exist?
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>>171360323
I was before they nerfed the axtinguisher

Rest in piece my nigga pyro
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holy shit
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>>171360323
does tf2 still exist?
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>>171360352
oh my god.
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>2900, really want to break into diamond already
>I pick dps and get golds and wreck shit, but two other guys locked junk and genji and dont watch to switch
>somehow I end up playing rein, its the nepal temple
>we take back the point with enemy team at 99% and all have our ults, I tell the team to stay on me and fight on, and close to, the point and try to keep the drop room locked down since that was working for us
>everybody corrals themselves the opposite direction into the corner by the edge and our zarya throws her ult like a foot in front of them, hitting nothing
>they all get shit on in the corner by their team while streetpig and lucio walk onto the point to give me the dick
>this shit is every game but somehow I win enough points to stay in this purgatory
is it true diamond is the same thing
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>>171360323
yes
hello

I literally could not play any other character

I absolutely loved and love pyro, character and gameplay wise, but especially character

>>171360338
they did? when? damn dude that was my one and only set
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>>171360352
>>171360423

In practice, the only thing this does is make it harder for Mei to safely ice wall from the side passage (since plenty of people had mobility to relocate there anyway)

Maybe that's enough, though... maybe that's enough
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>>171355304
plus maybe someday: ballet emote <3
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>>171360153
I'm one of them, I'm not anti social but I also don't have five friends on call to always play together.

I do get what you're saying tho, and it makes sense but plenty of people feel fine just solo queue.
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>>171360441
>June 18, 2014 Patch (Love & War Update)
>The Axtinguisher now does mini-crit damage from the front and full crit damage from behind to burning targets.

What a joke

"You can only crit from behind AND they're burning", as if you could possibly set someone on fire without them turning around ON TOP OF THE SLOWED WEAPON SWITCH SPEED AND SLOWED ATTACK SPEED

WHAT THE FUCK VALVE

And mini crits just don't cut it
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>>171360448
They will just camp the other building

They can get flanked from people jumping on the bridge
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>>171357731
>intruder alert, sending the crouchmaker
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>>171360602
Same deal, Mei is easy to dislodge from either room now

However if Mei walls weren't your problem (e.g.: your team just won't fucking charge in when the Rein shield is down) this change won't help you
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>>171360595
just use the backburner. I don't see why people try to incorporate intense strategy into pyro other than use flare gun to make snipers fuck off and flamethrower rape everything else.
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>>171358272
>The only constant value is you
>you keep losing
>better blame it on other people
And i bet you think an individualized rating for a team game is just the worst
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>>171360787
>le only constant maymay

This isn't a moba where that meme can apply. Solo carrying a game in Overwatch is far less likely.
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Defend losing streaks
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>>171360787
>le only constant
not that guy but you've got your head up your ass if you believe in that flawed garbage
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>>171360890
The fact that you think a constant value is a meme is more than enough info needed on how bad you are
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>>171360667
I personally think we should just delete the hybrid part of eichenwalde and make it a payload map
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>>171358997
I actually did placement today and when we went 2-2 after 2-0 I swapped to Junker on Nepal

He DEVASTATED their 3tank squash attempts. Got POTG with a tire dropped for a quintuple. Won the placement after swapping when no one else would budge
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>>171360962
>resorts to u mad u bad

Got any other memes in that box of tricks? Everyone knows of people who were boosted to masters that would never have got there normally, the system is weighted against support players in particular.
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>>171360945
We don't want you to leave the game forever because your SR dropped almost 500 points in the past few hours
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>>171355872

Well our boy Jeff have much better taste in waifus i must say. What's dirty weeb Chu even contributing to the game other?
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>>171360787
I literally said nothing about "I keep losing", but this isn't TF2 where I can just pick scout and assblast everyone to death. Overwatch fundamentally is not a game you can solo carry effectively, sometimes you will just lose games by virtue of the enemy team having a reinhardt and your team not because no one wants to pick him and you're already healing.
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>>171361134
those same people in masters will either stick with the people who got them there (Smart) while minutely getting less and less points due to being less and less of a contributing factor, or they will tank when they try to go solo

or hell, maybe they actually get to the rank they are at, stop doing ranked, learn their role(s) and actually maintain position

but since you're so damn deadset on this global conspiracy that blizzard handpicks retards just for you to lose in, and not you actually being far worse than lead on to be, heres some more "memes"
>it all evens out eventually (you will lose game after game until you get to a point where you can single handedly stomp the incompetence of the enemy team)
>Communication is key (when you don't communicate with your team, other players all vie for the "lead" role, leading to the detriment of the team since everyone wants to dive in for the team or take head position)
>you are where you belong (you as a player can only go and advance as far as you are able to go, unless you are willing to rework your playstyle/mannerisms)

>>171361426
This isn't a game of you + 5 retards vs prescripted AI. Both teams want the win, and if you aren't willing to talk or command your 5 shitters, you can only really pray the other side is doing worse
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>Tfw just had a violent breakdown set off after I was tbagged by multiple Anas in 3v3

In my defense, I'm already having stability issues, the tbagging was just the last straw
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>>171361548
nigga get a psychologist before you shoot up a school
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>The state of those Lucio buffs
>The state of those Lucio nerfs
Torn as fuck, literally bought his gold just last week. Kaplan pls.
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>>171361548
I really hate t-bagging, especially when it come from a Roadhog who used his vast oasis of skill to kill me, I've never been so impressed
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Now that lucio, a core meta hero since the beginning has been reworked

What's in for our boy reinhardt when it's his turn?
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>>171360660
Hell of an alarm system
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>>171361548
>Jimmies being rustled by a shitty FPS
>By being teabagged no less
>in the MMXVII
Theres far more agitating things in the world of vidya alone to be frothy at, Teabagging is like a parent calling your Playstation "the nintendo", its just going to happen
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>>171361720
Make him less B O R I N G
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>>171361541
>if you aren't willing to talk or command your 5 shitters, you can only really pray the other side is doing worse

m8, half the time people in this game do not give a fuck what you have to say. "Everyone go in right side, I'll speed boost us in", cue everyone just rushing to the left side which is the "natural" route that leads into the enemy's meatgrinder.

Soloqueing this game feels like which team has the greater ratio of idiots.

Gold/plat players have bought smurf accounts and wound up placing in diamond/masters, it's more diceroll than anything for a lot of people.
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>>171361790
>Theres far more agitating things in the world of vidya alone to be frothy at
Not when it's all you have
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>>171361410
Telling us that Junkers like Mech fighting and that Widowmaker was a ballet dancer.
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>>171361541
>while minutely getting less and less points due to being less and less of a contributing factor
It doesn't work this way. If they stay with the group, they keep winning with the group. There's no way to fall out of a group. (If they really always play together and never solo.)

>until you get to a point where you can single handedly stomp the incompetence of the enemy team
This isn't true either. You can't carry in Overwatch. It's literally impossible. No single hero is so good that you could substitute other players.
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>>171361720
let him charge with his shield up
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>>171357383
Because it kills dive comp and forces tanky deathball set ups.

By
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>>171361548
When the game was new, I always reported everyone who said "gg ez", and look, now there's a word filter for it. So I have a feeling that if people mass-reported t-baggers, we would get some sort of cure for that too.
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>>171354831
>https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20753535162

Lazy OP still hasn't changed the live patch notes, still using patch notes from 28th of February.
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>>171361790
not the guy with issues but Teabagging is just a method of making fun of your opponent. Of course it's going to make people angry. It's like gloating about how you wronged somebody and got away it it infront of their face.
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>>171362000
>imblying it doesn't promote divecomps
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>>171361821
If it's that abhorrent off the bat for 1 or 2 games, accept the loss, and try to move on

If it's like this, consistently, then start hand picking 2-3 players you notice are actually good, and get them in on a team, you might get into stack vs stack territory, but this time you'll at least have the benefit of a team willing to work with you, and then genuine tactics will be shown

>>171361914
>It doesn't work this way
Except it does, different playstyles throughout your road to 25 (assuming you queue for ranked immediately at 25) have already gotten you down to what rank you more than likely will end up in

refer to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXFj4-79kQU
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>>171362162
I mean I don't even soloqueue in comp anymore anyway because it's just flat out unenjoyable
>>
Is Orisa good? I don't play the PTR.
I am exited to play her when she is fully released.
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>>171362110
not really as some heroes commonly used in dive comps have abilities that allow them to out run lucio. I guess it helps speed boost the rest of the team to bring quick following support but it's more risky.
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>>171362234
She's really good, the graviton on an 8 second cooldown is pretty nutso
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>>171362110
Nope, because his speed boost cannot effectively reach everyone (10m is a lot smaller than you think it is).

It means he has to pick 1 person and stick with them or the lucio can't be DSPStanky levels of annoying.

Or the team has to fight in a deathball to still get the lucio advantages, which means we full tank meta again.
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>>171362162
>different playstyles throughout your road to 25 have already gotten you down to what rank you more than likely will end up in
Totally not what we are talking about here. Let's imagine five players: four of them are pretty good, one extremely bad. As long as they can queue together, the good ones can lift the bad one as high as possible. If they always stay as a group. There's no way the baddie will ever be left out of the group, because the system simply does not work like that. They will always get the same points, eventho one of them "doesn't deserve" them.
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>>171362578
Did you not watch the video? your exact situation, but in reverse
>6 people play as a stack all the way to 25
>do their matches
>all have differing results after match 10
>the shitter healers are outside the range for continued team stacking
Riding coattails can really only work if you just happen to find your partner in the ranked pool after, not before
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>>171360323
>Do furries play tf2

What do you think
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>>171360157
She wouldn't make eye contact, she autistic It would just be very awkward.
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>>171362720
Did you not read what I wrote? As long as they can queue together, no-one can be left out. Are you even the same anon I was replying to? You keep talking about a different scenario altogether.
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I need help! Everyone is gay for me but I'm not gay for them.

Send help!
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>>171360660
sauce?
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>>171362891
Refer back to "it eventually evens out"
Whatever position the shitter takes, eventually it will become a detriment to the 5 good players, most notably in clutch situations like a super needed sleep dart from ana against an ulted pharah burning ult, or a perfect headshot to a mercy just before she can divebomb heal

She/He will enjoy the ride up, but unless the team is going to be happy at say, master or high end diamond, they will get the axe
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>>171363068
Again, a different scenario. What the original anon claimed, was, that even if they always play together, they will still be seperated eventually. Which just doesn't happen, because everyone is awarded SR for wins/losses, not individual performance.
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>>171363258
And im saying the 5 players will eventually cut out the fat when they get high enough and realize their bum leg can not coast off their teamwork in say, lower GM, like they could in upper gold
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>save my loot crates all night
>get nothing but dupes
Brb, going to go eat my heart out
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When is Blizzard going to fix their AIDS servers?

I keep getting within 100 SR of a rank up, and then proceed to loose all the SR I gained in the last three games because their shitty servers glitch out.
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>>171358997
>yeah you're gold because you were spamming the rein shield good job faggot
>why is no one breaking the rein shield?!
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>>171363386
Sure. But why keep saying that, when we aren't even talking about such a scenario?

The whole ranking system is fucked anyway, and I seriously don't understand why Blizzard isn't doing anything about it.
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Delicious chocolate!
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>>171363665
Retarded FAAAAAAAAAAAGreeha poster wooo! Excellent contribution, what a post!
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>tfw no augmented cyberpunk mexican wife

fugg DDDD:
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>>171358032
you must be nuts to think 50% boost is a nerf just because the radius is smaller
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>>171363698
Oh shit, it's an angry anon getting uppity over a single post insinuating that they're not contributing to the thread while at the same time contributing nothing of worth with their own post! Oh man that's the good shit!
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>>171363605
Your scenario seems to be arbitrary
>It isn't about initial placing
>It isn't about stacking with 5 good players and coasting
>it isn't about being with 5 benevolent players who are not only gods, but caring ones that would never remove you
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>>171363836
his mobility and his auras are now mutually exclusive, so yes, it's a nerf.
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>>171363956
gotta wall ride more then
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>Ana on Volskaya: I shouldn't stick around for too long I'm probably still on the watchlist here
What did she mean by this?
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>>171363865
I'd say you could post about the game but no one wants advice from a quickplay/arcade babby
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Seriously fuck matchmaking. How the fuck is one team just wiping every fucking fight a balanced system?
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>>171363836
oh not not his mobilty

gfycat com/AdmiredWildChameleon
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>>171363897
Throw me an argument, and we can talk.

Like the video showed, the placing are fucked up. However, if the team in the video helped each other out a little bit (by switching accounts, maybe) they'd soon be at the same level - in the game's eyes, that is - and could continue to queue as a team. The problem they faced is ridiculous, but not something that can't be worked around with.

And WHY is it like that? Because the game only cares about wins and losses, not individual performance. As long as they can queue together - which they can, with some tweaking - they'll stays as a group forever.
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>>171364120
She's wanted in Egypt for thievery, assault and such. Probably did shit in Russia too.
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>win
>get 20 SR
>lose
>lose 40 SR

Seriously fuck this game
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>>171364121
I am posting about the game, I am posting about Pharah, who is in the game, and she is also the best girl, and is very pretty.

>tfw you haven't bothered to do the qualification matches for the new season yet because you've burnt yourself out and are hoping Orisa might make things interesting again even though she probably won't
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>play CTF
>enemy team balances between offense and defense
>my team spends the entire match turtling at the flag
>draw
Does this ever not happen?
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Reminder that Sombra is fucking 30
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>>171364306
Your SR and MMR are grossly mismatched because of Blizzard's amazing system.
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>>171364316
Having to build up the CAPTURE meter to grab the flag was a fucking mistake.
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>>171364316
>don't want to lay your usual heroes
>pick some easy shit like Pharah
>spend ten minutes firing at the same circle from far away
>no winstons or dvas to stop you
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>>171364316
>They didn't try to copy Tribes Ascend for high speed CTF fun
>instead it's akin to playing the game with your parents and neices/nephews
VGS VGN
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They should just add a second ult for LUCIO. Take the heroes one.

"Reverse Amp
55 Mana Cooldown: 45 seconds
Blast Lúcio's Crossfade track at enemy Heroes for 4 seconds, causing Healing Boost to inflict damage every second, and Speed Boost to Slow Movement Speed by 45%.
Passive: Increase Amp It Up's duration to 4 seconds."


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Add one of the following talents as passive and we fixed LUCIO.

"Encore
Using Crossfade while Amp It Up is active resets the duration of Amp It Up back to its max duration. This can only occur once per cast.

Synaesthesia Auditiva
Casting Amp It Up removes all Stun, Slow, and Root effects from nearby allies, and all Slow and Root effects on Lucio."
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>just came from console
>still in quickplay
>not level 25 yet
>most players i've played with aren't above gold

I-i'm gonna place silver aren't I??
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>>171364526
SR and MMR are separated for some retarded reason.
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>>171364526
>I-i'm gonna place silver aren't I??

Haha No
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>>171361720
after seeing the slick ME4 boosters, i'd love for him to have shorter-but-faster charges (like tracer blinks, but not an actual teleports, and actually being fucking able to strafe with them) to either reposition or to pin people in close quarters
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>>171364490
Giving Lucio any of his talents from heroes would be retarded considering how his wall ride is basically the ALL WALL RIDE ALL DAY build that no one picks along with the percentage based healing talent.
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>>171364551
Something like that, but your 10 matches actually have a large and real chance of sending you anywhere from bronze to masters, depending on your play
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>>171364490
>Speed Boost to Slow Movement Speed by 45%
Please no, the game already has stupid many stuns and slows.
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I'm going to do my s4 placements who should I main for the season?
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>>171364490
>A stunned character being able to remove a stun

I don't think stun means what you think it does.

But I really think that mercy should get the debuff wipe ability.
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>>171364756
Orisa
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Is Orissa OP? Havent seen any gameplay videos or anything like that, but people were telling me she is OP
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>>171364874
She was at her debut on the PTR.

I don't know how much they've adjusted her since, though.
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Soldiers ult is trash. You can get one, maybe two kills max with it. They really need to make it so you dont have to reload during it. Or at least reloads are faster
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>>171365032
idiot
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>>171364874
>>171365030
We absolutely will not know how good Orisa is for real until she goes live. The truth is barely anyone plays a real comp in PTR.

General consensus is that she feels pretty balanced right now, which probably means she's on the slightly weak side but not so bad that you're throwing by using her.
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>>171364874
She's the easiest hero to snipe.
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Widowmaker is way too much effort for reward.
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>>171365030
>>171365107
>>171364874
Ohhhh. I remember the good old days when people thought Sombra was OP when she was released. Expecting the same with Orissa
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Saw the mercy video that went into depth about her controls, and positioning. Is there any other videos like that for Lucio / Zenyatta ?
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>>171365078
Nice argument fucking faggot
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do people know what "Defend" means?

>only person on my team who picks defense
>one healer
>Reinhart who just runs around swinging his axe
>sombra and tracer who literally did nothing

why
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>>171365257
I know he's the meme black man but Professor Ganymede does a good job of presenting very basic Lucio techs

I wouldn't really bother to learn him though since he might be about to be entirely changed and this will completely ruin most of the techs that he teaches

For Zenyatta, Tempo Storm's Zenyatta player Hooey just released a positioning video which is specific to one map, but might give you some insight
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>>171365247
Except Orisa is totally different.

Sombra was just a wildly different style of play than people were used to and so didn't know how ot deal with it.

Orisa is literally a walking Bastion who can tank. AND she has a ranged AoE shield that's only slightly weaker than Reinhardts shield.
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I wanna get into Zen. Any advice?
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>>171365349
>wanting more than one defense hero on defense

What, you want a bastion AND a mei or something?

Here's what you need, two healer, two tank, you take your choice of one defense and one offense. So that's gonna be for example maybe a Mei to block the choke and Soldier to pick off Pharahs and flankers

There ya go buddy
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>>171365247
>when people thought Sombra was OP when she was released
lol no

People thought she was OP before she was released because her kit sounded broken.
>She can see you through walls what the fuck???

Then everyone realized she has as much damage as a wet sponge
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>>171365410
Practice headshots, if you can't consistently headshot you're wasting your team, better off playing Ana (unless you've specifically counteredpicked against a lineup of enemy Zarya w/o Ana support)
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>>171365462
>Just play the meta again for the millionth time
>>
SOMEONE EXPLAIN "FLICKING" TO ME

I AM WATCHING KEHPRII PLAY WIDOW AND HE SNAPS HIS AIM BACK AND FORTH WHILE MISSING EVERY SHOT
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>Roadhog is overpowered
>Roadhog gives very good results without requiring enough effort to get them
>Roadhog if fine
Which one is accurate?
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>>171364874
She's an excellent Defense tank for staying in one spot. Her barrier is great (though it is much weaker than Rein's and only 300HP more than Winston's and has good side coverage but no rear coverage) and you can place it anywhere, Fortify makes her immovable and much harder to hurt, and you can do some serious shenanigans with her Gravity Ball. Supercharger is a massive tide-turner as well, plop it down in a good spot and watch the enemy team melt like taffy under your team's withering fire.

However, only 400 health with 200 of it being armor makes her one of if not THE squishiest tank in the game under normal circumstances. Her headbox is HUGE, you can aim above her barrier and if she's behind it she can still be hit. She has absolutely no movement abilities and firing halves her movement, so being caught in a sticky situation is a very bad thing. And a good Sombra is a death sentence for Orisa, without her abilities she's a sitting duck. Orisa definitely needs a good coordinated team to see her full potential.
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What if you were allowed to shoot during sitting/resting emotes?
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>Play quick play
>My team stomps through like the other team isn't even there
>Someone on the other team leaves after the match ends
>Next game starts
>I've been moved to the shitty team
>No other balancing has been done
>My former team is on me at the speed of light the second I poke my head out anywhere because they know I'm the only one who poses any kind of threat
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>>171365396
>AND she has a ranged AoE shield that's only slightly weaker than Reinhardts shield

Rein's barrier has 2000HP.
Orisa's only has 900HP.

Hers lasts slightly longer than Winston's, but it's still popping very quickly under fire.
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>>171365583
>why aren't you reinventing the wheel
Meta is the worst thing about games, but by god it's there because it works
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>>171365674
A and B. Although B only happens because of A
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>potg bug still in the game
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>350 hp sym
>armor adds dmg reduction
>has 7m cock of force choke
>10kdps

Just fucking kill her bro!
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How quickly does one go from feeling bad for dragging their team down to blaming them for every loss?
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i hate my life
>decide on some early morning play
>forget 5-9 are worst hours to play
>get same team over and over again
>one guy called smurf
>clearly isnt
>goes hanzo everyround
>5v6 everygame
>loose 100sr because people play for fun over win
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>>171365845
>Sombra's translocator still buggy
>Genji's sword still bugged
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>>171366020
>playing online at any time of day
>not just playing against AI
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>>171365943
>Not baiting her out with Junkrat and heckling her with the Tracers
The biggest flaw of any symm player, is they assume their generator makes them immortal
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>>171366073
Gotta work on those Ana buffs, no time to fix anyone else.
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>>171366130
is this meant to be funny
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>Playing 1v6 Custom match
>I got put on a team by myself
>all settings are at max no cooldown as per usual custom match autism
>1st round play as sombra throwing my translocater across the map until draw
>2nd round i play D.va and fly around until draw
>3rd round i play Zarya with no barrier cool down and am invincible
>graviton surge and wreck team.
>5 people leave
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>Play comp solo
>Our team has a two stack that is two brothers
>Both adults, both with significant time in the game
>They literally don't know how to play ANY characters properly.
>Think pharah is a standing turret
>Think rein is a rushdown character
>Thinks hog is only for long range hook sniping and should run away if hook is on cooldown against squishies
>Lose, badly, while one of them stands on a rooftop and misses literally 10+ shots with pharah rather than contesting the point

I REALLY want individual performance to matter more in MMR.
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>Round 1 playing Mercy
>we do really well, keep everyone healed, never moves the payload past the first checkpoint
>Round 2 defense switch to Mei, another guy switches to Mercy
>"Yeah he wasn't healing anyone so whatever, I'll be Mercy"
>team continuously dies, they make it to the second checkpoint and win

what did he mean by this?
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>>171360574
That was sarcasm, if you didn't realize it.

He's making fun of Jeff for not understanding how relationships of normal people actually work.
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>>171366439
>i do really well, keep everyone healed, but we never moves the payload past the first checkpoint*

my english is bad
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Any idea what the next event will be

Holding out hope that it will have a decent Orisa skin
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>>171366439
You have zero gamesense and someone had to step in for you.
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>>171365674
This one.
>Roadhog gives very good results without requiring enough effort to get them
Meanwhile Reaper requires the enemy team to be blind and deaf.
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>>171366217
No. Just play against Hard AI.

Or get a friend and play against them in Custom Game. You'll get at least 2.5k xp if you win, 1.6 xp at the least if you lose.
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Holy shit those Lucio changes are some of the most retarded shit I've seen in a while. Roadhog can throw a hook farther than Lucio can play a song.

I wonder what the thought process behind them was, the self-sustain and survivability he will have will be insane, and the range changes won't matter to pros who know how to stick together.
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>>171366530
i don't know what you mean but I kept everyone alive and he didn't, that was my point i'm making.

Other team was better overall and we could not push the payload but at least i did my job
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>>171366439
I had a guy playing soldier in comp the other night CONSTANTLY running far from the team and getting in 1v3+ situations and dying despite both us healers constantly warning him we can't heal out of line of site, so then he switches to mei and they get a pharah. He started bitching ENDLESSLY about pharah, so we said he should go back to soldier and he says

>No, none of you guys are healing me so I don't give a fuck

I hate it.

I had a rein throw a total hissy fit and start doing NOTHING but ragging on me for a whole round because his health got below 35% when I was telling him he was out of line of sight and I can't get to him.

He autolocked mercy the next round to "show me how it's done" and did AWFUL.
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>>171366636
They're trying to make the other healers suck as hard as possible so that Ana is the only one ever used.
>>
>Test ana nerfs
>Remove all nerfs because of complaints
>Promptly start raping the effectiveness of other healers

I hate how blizzard manages this game.
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>>171366649
Being a healer is a pain desu. I enjoy playing support, but with OW specifically it seems you always get stuck with that position as few people want to heal and people don't understand as a healer you're a huge target and if they let an offense/sniper take you out there's literally nothing you can do. I cannot heal you when I'm respawning and walking back to the point.
>>
Best heroes to carry/climb with?
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So why is Roadhog allowed to one-shot? His hook is already basically a confirmed kill and possibly one of the best CCs in the game. It seems so unreasonable that he should also do a fuckton of damage by himself. Have him hide in a corner and then he one-shots your healer, doesn't really matter if he dies, the trade is much more worth it
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>>171366935
Solo-Q Support demands you have the skill to 1v1 assassins
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>>171366935
It really sucks because at the level I am at in comp it is a coin toss whether anyone is semi competent in the role they pick.

It seems like if I go support, we heal fine, but the dps/tanks are all over the place. If I go dps, we do fine, but support is all over the place.

If I get a team going, we get matched against crazy six stacks.


Barely anyone protects the healers, too, so I'm constantly asking for help if they are running flankers/winston/pharah, and my team is half the time getting ANGRY at me for dying to those things when they won't try and help me with it.
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>>171367109
>Stop healing to fight some flanker
>Teammates start yelling at you and calling them garbage because you stopped healing to fight the flanker
>Don't help you with the flanker

This game...
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>>171367109
as a Mercy main I cannot protect myself, and if there's a Widow targeting me I'm pretty much a sitting duck.
>"Hey Genji could you take that Widow out?"
>jumps into a 5v1 and then complains when he dies
>"Thanks Genji"

>>171367178
this desu
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>>171358830
Is that... Metal gear!
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>>171367282
Mercy can protect herself.
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>>171364874
She is absolutely torn apart by flankers and Widow. The projectiles from her gun move at a snail's pace.
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>>171367282
Just use your gun. It deals a surprising amount of damage.
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>>171367479
Not him, but most things mercy will be having to fight off will kill her far easier far faster than she can kill them with her gun, unless she has near perfect aim and/or they are soft when she deals with them.
A few of the things she has to worry about she has very little chance of hitting before they can kill her, like widow or pharah.
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>>171366883
>jeff plays Ana and Road
>Those two are always relevant in the meta

Really makes you think
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Bullying Widowmakeers has to be the funnest thing to do in this game.
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>>171367664
I dunno doing the sit emote on the payload/sitting in weird spots is pretty fun. One time I just camped out in the sit position next to the enemy spawn for like the first 30 seconds and nobody noticed. I had a good laugh desu desu
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>>171358868
She actually says "Faglando I'm useless"

>>171358981
Good joke
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>>171365121
But what to do to stop making her a burden for the team?
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>Enemy has 90% on the objective on Night Market
>We just respawned after a team wipe
>I'm playing Ana and have ult
>Our Genji also has ult
>I tell Genji to go in with ult so I can ult him
>Our entire team, including Genji goes in the opposite direction to the objective trying to kill random S76 and Roadhog instead of going to the Objective
>We lose

What's wrong with these people?
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I just wanted a relaxing night of Mystery Heroes, I don't mind losing but going 9 games without winning a single one makes me want to smash my keyboard.
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>>171367790
The only thing you can do, get picks, that means headshots. If you can't do that, don't pick Widow.
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>>171367847
it kinda sounds like you do mind losing
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>>171367859
But she is cute so I can't stop picking her.
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>mfw quad gold in every game with orisa on comp

hoyl fuck i cant wait until she comes live
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>>171367896
You have to draw the line somewhere.
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>>171367847
i feel ya, just wanted to chill with some quick play and not get frustrated, but cant get a single balanced game
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>>171368142
>implying she won't be released with nerfs and patches
Did you just think they postponed her release for shits and giggles?
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>stall in quickplay for 10minutes
>for some reason the team doesn't step on the point after I die because they want to chase a genji
>we lose

HOW
DO
THEy
EVEn
BREATHE
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>>171368271
p-please no, they already nerfed her in the ptr
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>can't take a piss without being kicked for inactivity
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>>171362975
Embrace it.
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>>171358830
Why did Mr. Freeze become a sniper?
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Can anyone give me advice on gold / low plat? I was always high plat / diamond in every season but I played my placements terrible as fuck and got in mid gold and can't get out of 2400-2500. People play the "who has the better bastion / rein / mercy combo" here on every match.
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>lucio gets changes that make him more fun to play
>you can't use any of that wallriding shit anymore though since you need to be stuck up your team's ass all the time in order to heal them
o-okay
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Made a comp of all the important lore bites from the update. Should all of them be added or is this a good list?
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>>171368506
>Kings Row attack
>forced to single Ana heal
>break in
>5 of ours on the point vs their 2
>keep alive everyone for minutes
>team is unable to cap the point and the defenders slowly pour back in (without a teleport)
>after two minutes of desperate healing they push us out from the point and destroy the team

later

>last corner before the last point
>team kill every enemy tank
>it is 5 of us vs 3 of them
>bastion is on top of the load with rein protecting him
>10 seconds pass
>still not a fucking kill and they contest the payload
>enemy comes back, takes the payload and win

HOW
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>>171369153
What's the top right one from? One of Roadhog's?
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>Numbani
>ultra-high tech megacity of tolerance
>in Africa

wow. OW really IS a fantasy setting
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Every game...
Roadhog Reinhardt...
Ana Lucio...
Soldier 76....

and one meme pick
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>>171369334
ooookaaay who do you "main"?

I am guessing Junkrat or Mei.
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>>171363665
>>171363698
>>171363865
indeed delicious and she above all wanna taste it

>>171365030
they just lowered a bit the bullets in her mag and raised a little the charge needed to fill her ult from what i recall

>>171366524
no idea, no leaks until now and personally i hope stays like that, i wanna see the contents by surprise when they release the event video showing off the things

>>171366636
i dont remember the exact blue post words but they want lucio be pickable for more that just the heal and ult support, so he can do more thats why the speed buffs to riding, after riding and speed shot increase; still you have to remember these changes are non final, they want to test it for now but i believe we all agree that the visual aoe for songs is neat
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>>171369460
Nothing wrong with playing both the mechanically superior hero as well as requiring the most gamesense and knowledge.

GENJI
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>>171369334
There's literally no reason to not play Ana in a pub.

Maybe if you're a god with Zenyatta but even then, I'd say Ana brings much more to the table.
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>omg haha only silver player ana would nade genji reflect
>watch aimbotcalvin nade himself on genji reflect
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>play support
>lose
>play DPS
>win

hmm.... I think there's something going on here
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>>171369658
>aimbotcalvin
>good

Literally was caught using a fucking script like he did in CS:GO

There's a reason why he climbs off-stream and then suddenly "plays like shit" on-stream and it isn't because he's being sniped or having stream pressure distracting him.
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>>171369492
but Genji is in every game as well...in every rank tier.
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>>171369153
>a young Sombra
>a young Efi Oladele
English isn't my native language, so could someone explain the "a"? Why is it there, when we definitely know, who these people are.
>>
holy shit, new eichenwalde route. they actually fix maps now?
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What do you do when their Rein is insanely better than your Rein?
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>>171369334
Soldier and Roadhog definitely need a nerf. Their damage is just retarded. Rein, Lucio, and Ana will never drop because of their unique abilities(shield, speed boost, heal block)
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>>171369778
Even Blizzard knew Sym/Torb/Bastion/Ana/Orisa/Rein was unbreakable
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>>171369779
Pick COD man and hold left click within the boundaries of the red rectangle.
This will ensure that your Reinhardt is "better" than theirs as the skill to playing Reinhardt consists of holding down right click.
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>be Mercy, getting picked off a lot despite being right next to my team
>tell my team they're not paying attention and that the enemy is taking advantage of this
>they acknowledge this
>they say they should start turning around and protecting me more
>but they don't, they just keep on ignoring me
>their lack of awareness grows into tunnel vision on attack, all they see is themselves
>starts off with rein not moving forwards at all while our teammates just run past him through the choke point
>they start dying left and right because I can't get anywhere near them
>at least four of them run through a symmetra sentry nest and don't do anything about it so when I get there I die
>immediately when they respawn they run right back to the uncaptured payload, completely alone
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>>171360787
>get cunt down to 1 tick health
>have to reload
>teammates doesnt bother killing him even though they're right there

Yeah better fire away at Rein's shield
>>
Hey, they added competitive to the test server. Neat.
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>>171370145
It's there occasionally.
>>
Does anyone else have the issue that they're completely unable to log into the test server?
>>
So, now that the dust has settled, is this a Lucio buff or a Lucio nerf?
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>>171370190
Is the server full? Are you a new player? The forum has answers for you.
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>>171370225
Buff for a deathball comp
Nerf for a dive comp

They should make it so his effects have limited effect behind walls now.
>>
Why does Blizzard want to push deathball?
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>>171369779
Melt his shield
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>>171370315
Making the game play like an actual FPS with class abilities would be too hard on casual shitters. So you just sit behind shields and spam away on other shields, ult and win. No skill required.
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What's the patch on the PTR for?
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>>171370418
No changes to Dva, sadly.
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>>171370418
Ana has been deleted from the game
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>>171370516
Fair enough, but what changes are there?
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>>171370545
I wish.
This game could be instantly made playable with the removal of Ana and Reinhardt. And Orisa
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>>171365032
>Or at least reloads are faster

They already are.

Beastly idiot.
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>>171370571
If you really wanted to know, you could
a) read the thread
b) google them yourself
Both are viable and easy options.
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Why I am so inconsistent with McCree?

I sometimes have 75% accuracy and sometimes I can't hit fucking Roadhog in a belly.
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>>171369226
It's Junkrat's for every common skin he has, doesn't apply to his default or any epics for some reason
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>Lucio now practically hugs is team to heal them
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>>171370657
Nobody likes a lazy cunt.
Couldn't see anything in this thread, I'll check the previous one.
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>>171370708
That's kind of interesting. I would think it'd apply to Toasted if anything.
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>>171370701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiMDTDU7lW8
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>>171370701
You have """"75%"""" accuracy when you have a reinhardt to empty yours shots into, otherwise you suck.
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>>171369775
I speak English and I'm not really sure either.

But "Orphaned after the omnic crisis, young sombra" sounds almost like the "young" is part of her name to me at least.
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SO WAIT THEYRE ACTUALLY NERFING FUCKING LUCIO?

KEEEEEEEEK SHIT GAME LMAO
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>>171370812
>NERFING
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>have a full day where I'm absolutely wrecking with Widow, headshots nonstop and 60-80% accuracy
>try to widow again
>can't hit shit

why

I just know I'm going to be chasing that feeling of being so in the groove I wasn't even trying super hard to aim, just naturally landing shots.
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>>171370812
>mandatory pick
>but he's not op it's because he's unique1!!11!!one!!
fuck off
rein, ana, lucio, hog and soldier need to get the d.va treatment and nerfed into the shitter
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>>171370106
as soon as I hear "get them off me" I fucking spin around and get dat dank free kill from a tracer / genji who is tunnel visioning a mercy or anna.

That obligatory thank you, but really i did it for that dink dink dink sound. Like shooting fish and barrel.
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>>171370812
>make brainless FPS for casuals
>mandatory pick hero is the healer that's the most brainless, the other mandatory pick is the one with the most broken as fuck kit
>nerf the brainless hero
>leave the broken as fuck kit unchanged

lul. I want whatever it is that Kaplan's smoking
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>>171369775
It's difficult to explain because it's such a subtle difference that you only really register on a subconscious level, but it's because of the 'young' part. The 'a' is added because they're not talking about current Sombra, they're talking about her in the past.
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>>171370881
whoops, fish in a barrel...
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>>171370885
>Kaplan
I think you mean Geoff
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>>171370867
>your quad-headshot kill doesn't get the Play of the Game
>Junkrat's triple-kill Riptire does
wow thank you blizzard for showing me such wonderful displays of high skill gameplay
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>Team claims the objective
>Team scatters to the winds to chase the other team back o their spawn
>Get wiped
>Lose the point and can't take it back
>This repeats for two more rounds
>They respond in Korean when I try to talk to them
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>>171370418
read ow's blog, its there; the short version, lucio changes and german map (castle) have a new path for attackers (right side of 1st choke point)

>>171370812
ah, those tears, the taste of delicious ignorance nom nom
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>>171370970
>not knowing korean
A shame you can't speak with them...
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>>171370970
>tfw have to constantly spam "Group up with me!" and "Defend the objective"
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Why is she so perfect, bros?

>that gorgeous face
>that cute giggle when she teleports
>that excitement for life
>that perfect size booty
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>>171370970
fucking learn the language if you want to communicate then
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>>171371048
>perfect
>age 27

No.
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>>171370812
It's a net buff and a pretty good one at that.
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>>171371014
>>171371050
Is this some epic new meme?
Gooks need to go back to their fucking shithole of a server.
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>>171371048
>Short hair.
>Piercings
>Is lesbian.
It's like Blizzard tries to ruin characters.
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>>171370934
But why can't it be "the (then) young" or "when she was young", or something like that... English isn't very logical. :\

Still, it's pretty interesting that Los Muertos Sombra is supposed to be a younger version of her, just like Bundeswehr is apparently a young version of Rein. (If only their faces/voices also matched.)
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Reminder that Chu confirmed:

>there is some romance going on somewhere between the 3 of them
>but the drama in their story line that split them apart wasn't driven by it

At the very least, love triangle fags should be killing themselves now.
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>>171371082
I guess you need an e-Trump to build that e-wall.

I'm sure it'll work out too, just like the real wall.
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>>171370872
D.Va wasn't nerfed enough desu. Defense Matrix is still broken as fuck ability. It shouldn't reach 10 meters (NOT exaggerating) in front of her, but instead only consume shots that would directly hit her or nearly miss (imagine if Genji's reflect had the same range). Oh and it absolutely needs to become a cooldown ability again.


t. Pharah player
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>>171371130
I thought he was very vague about the nature of their relationship. Where did he say there was romance involved?
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>>171371130
Fuck off Chu
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>>171371014
>>171371050
Korean is an awful language for awful people. It sounds like someone is drowning a cat.
Korea was a mistake.
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>>171371126
"the then young Sombra" sounds good too, a bit wordy though.

Yeah it isn't very logical but it sounds natural to native speakers and something would feel instinctively wrong if they dropped the "a"
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I'm almost ok with the new lucio ideas. With the smaller radius, they should add a beam-ish effect to "amp it up", so it heals in the radius and also a little bit further out wherever he's aiming. Cause when you really need to heal someone, you should be able to heal them
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>>171371198
DUDE RACISM LMAO
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So when are they going to add a visual distance display to Zarya's beam? Sometimes she has to be in the players' face to hit them, and other times she can pretty much be a sniper.
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Who will get be the Blizzcon bonus skin this time?
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>>171371198

I actually quite like the way Korean sounds.
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>>171371164
That shitty blog post that commented on his GDC talk completely twisted what he said on Ana, Gabe, and Jack. Chu never said there was some big mystery behind 76 and Reaper that drives the story. He was speaking about all 3 of them in the talk specifically and said their relationship is his favorite.

Its a story about how a changing world can bring people together and then also split them apart. And he likes it because its a relationship not just driven by whatever romance is involved.

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1024266/Thinking-Globally-Building-the-Optimistic

34:00
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Who thinks orisa feels more like zarya than rein? anchor tank my ass
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>>171371373
junkrat
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>>171371373
Hopefully no one I actually play
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>>171371373
Bastion was such a lame choice, that I bet the next ones will be too. So Reaper and Orisa, maybe.
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If somebody missed it
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>>171371130
I wouldn't mind if it were Morrison and Reyes. I kinda like the idea of the, having been romantically involved at one point but now hate each other. It's add a nice element to their relationship, of course this is incredibly unreasonable
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>>171371491
She did ballet on Gerard's dick
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>>171371570

They should give lucio a gun.
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>>171371570
>Worse at healing but better at running around aimlessly

Did DPStanky make these changes
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>>171371494
>>171371373
It's Torb
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>>171371576
It's not unreasonable because that's exactly how emotions work. Generally, its hard to really, truly hate something if you didn't used to be very emotionally involved in it. If you don't fight for it, or against it, who is to say you really cared that much at all? I'm not saying friendships don't cause strong emotional ties too but romance is typically a good plot device for driving revenge plots.

Anyway, the only real reason anyone should like Reaper76 is the bants that would inevitably come with it if we ever get another flashback comic.
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>Lucio basically now built to be faster and heal more, and be even more durable, and all you need to do is be closer to the team than before
I love it.
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>>171371373
Sombra

The little icon on hacked healthkits will be the blizzard logo
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>>171365032
You already reload much faster while ulting.

The real problem with S76 ult is that it massively decreases your damage due to lack of head shots.
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>Lucio now has insane mobility, miles above anyone else
>has to be glued to his team or else he's being useless

I'm not sure I like this
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Torbjörn will receive the next BlizzCon skin because he stands for everything Blizzard has grown to be.

That's all you need to know.
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>>171371758
blizzard literally has no idea how to balance. this might reduce his pickrate a little but his winrate will go up for sure
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>>171370812
>30% speed increase on wall ride
>fucking bullet projectile when leaping from wall
>50% increase on healing
>nerfs
bronze life must be hard
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>>171371817
You wiped your nose way too many times in that GDC talk Chu.
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>>171371806
I hope you enjoy seeing lucios wallriding on the inside of Lijang tower control points because that's going to be happening a lot more often
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>>171371862
>implying his healing radius will even reach his team when he's constantly moving along the walls
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>Lose over 500SR over the last few days
>Uninstall the game and removed everyone from friends list
Did I overreact?
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>>171371570
I legit don't understand the point of these changes.

They want him to zip around sanic speed and be fast? Then why is his range so short where he can't get anyone in his range while doing so? You want him to stick right in the middle of your tanks and team and just follow them? Then why does he have this new speed and mobility?

10m is nothing short of of pathetic, this is not okay, this is not acceptable.
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>insane buffs to already OP character
I'm actually fucking done with this game, there is no excuse for this incompetence.
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>>171371974
DEATHBALL IS THE WAY TO PLAY
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>>171371806
So basically not much has changed and Lucio gained major buffs.

A Lucio away from his team is a free kill anyways. The only thing this affects is dive comps where your team pushes forward while Lucio sits in the back with Ana. In all other scenarios Lucio is always with his team and this change is a major buff.
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>>171371965
Extremely

It's just a game
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>>171371997
H-HE'S FAST.
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>>171371862
It should reach plenty far in the gardens one and in the control center map he'll just bounce around the pylon in the middle. As far as night market goes, he'll be able to maneuver around faster to get those environmental kills.
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>>171371997
He has the range of a dog leash, even less than Mercy's. If a Lucio is doing insane wallride shit he won't be healing his team

>>171372012
Lucio was NEVER played as close as he now needs to be, as soon as he tries to do anything other than AD in the middle of the team he's being useless with his pitiful DPS
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>>171371925
Doesn't matter, only his team can capture the point since him being there makes it contested 24/7
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New custom settings are neat. You can now adjust every thing, disable primary weapons and quick melee.
Also finally you can save presets and copy them from other people
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>>171372026
>It's just a game
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>>171372030
Take a look at his neurokinetics!
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>>171372103
What is Quick Melee?
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>>171369153
>mech battles are one of the most popular forms of entertainment in junkertown
>geoff wants to add a more aggressive mech hero

JUNKER MECH INCOMING
GIT HYPE
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>>171372103
>save presets

thank GOD. It felt so useless making a cool gamemode and then having to remember every little balance tweak you made and reenter them manually
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THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH LUCIO

WHY DID YOU FUCKING TOUCH HIM
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>>171372103
>save presets
>disable primary fire

Sweet, now I can finally play my corny insta-kill melee mode without people cheating.
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>>171372110
i had a friend who submitted a ticket to blizzard to remove overwatch from his account
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>>171372071
I think those changes were designed to allow Lucio to quickly move to people who need healing, making him a Mercy with aoe and crazy mobility instead of moving dispenser
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>>171372026
Yeah, well I'm fucking sick of being stuck in Plat hell when everyone I play with gets into Diamond and above. So might as well burn the whole thing down because fuck this game.
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>>171359138
here's a better one
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>>171372253
So that Lucio doesn't just exist and do what he does at maximum potency. Now players will actually need to use his better mobility to heal people in need instead of just midnight his own business and healong because of his absurd range
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>>171372253
Because his healing range was absolutely crazy.

Now his job is to zoom over to whoever specifically needs healing, heal them, then detach and skate over to the next person.

He's now properly the mobile healer, instead of the guy who just only needs to be the same part of the map as his teammates healer.
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>>171372253
>There was nothing wrong with Lucio
He was literally so good that he's been a must pick at high level since the start of the game. The only reason people don't make as much of a fuss about it is because he can work with anyone (whereas other notable must picks tend to shape the meta like Genji or Ana did).

They also thought he was too passive which he was, his auras are literally just him existing and nothing else.
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>>171372359
So do teammates around him move that fast too?
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>there are people here thinking LUCIO was suppose to be the healbot and that's why his range was shortened
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>it's a fucking wannabe Chad soldier runs in with his medic and kills you while you're dueling with another Rein episode

Fucking hate smuggness in this game
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>>171372421
no, lucio's going warp speed because every walljump adds on to his current speed with the cap set at something like 600% base movement speed
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>>171372421
Fast music and Amp it Up are untouched so as far as how fast you can make your teammates goes, that's unchanged.

That webm is a mix of fast music, amp it up, and his personal boosted speed when wall riding and exiting off a wall.
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Is it just me or do i see more and more Widowmakers with some kind of aimbot? Everytime with these robotic moves. They even shoot sometimes on objects because the enemy is right behind the objects. Everytime first round is lost i see these widows.
Someone else having the same experience?
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>>171372194
Wouldn't it just look like another D.va, though? inb4 it's some cocky little Aussie kid who's around D.va's age and they cover up their attraction to each other with mech-related bantz
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>it's an "enemy team goes hitscan to counter my pharah" episode

You cunts can't stop me
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>Friend wants to play comp
>Plays like CoD
>Lose
>Play another match
>He still plays it like CoD despite me trying to nudge him in the right direction
>Lose again
>Tell him I have to go to bed
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>>171372607
subscribed ;)
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>>171372587
I just dink you nerds out of the sky as Zen. Pharah has a very predictable flight path.
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>>171372607
What do you mean by "plays like CoD" specifically?

Either way, don't nudge him, straight up tell him. He's not going to learn if he doesn't get informed on how he should play. If you beat around the bush all it'll do is mean you won't want to play with him.
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>>171372434
>there are people here who think Lucio was good for anything besides his group healing
His ultimate is trash, his speed boost is useless when you're on the objective, his right click isn't accurate, and now he can't heal teammates in need.

The only thing Lucio has left is his soundwave and that's faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from enough
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>>171372685
STOP
YOU CANNOT BAIT ME
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I want to become good friends with Sombra and cook our regional food for eachother.
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Who will go homo next?

Do we already have an Omnic+human relationship?
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>>171372434
As a Lucio main I'm pretty happy with the changes they made.

>dish out more healing to teams that stick together
>the wall ride speed increase means: old speed boost + wallride = new healing boost + wallride in terms of speed, making you extra slippery and tanky
>your flanking trip to that Widow can be completed faster
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>>171372719
>anything I don't want to hear is bait
No bait here, you're just scared of the truth.
Lucio's healing range is the entire reason for his popularity, without it, his popularity is going to fall through the floor.

>>171372745
And now you're a -1 to every team you play since he's a shit support now
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>>171372745
Forgot to mention it also feels like it's easier to knock people off ledges now.
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>>171372661
>fly above Zen
>he panics and starts spamming orbs
>dodge them all easily
>two tap him
To be fair though this is usually against Diamonds
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>>171372740
>Do we already have an Omnic+human relationship?
Yes, in the Widowmaker animation.
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>>171372740
>Who will go homo next?
McCree, Hanzo, or Lucio, probably. Lucio's the safe choice while McCree and Hanzo are the popular ones, though that doesn't mean they'll be paired together.

>Do we already have an Omnic+human relationship?
No, but it might be Torb and Bastion in a father-and-child sort of relationship
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>>171372814
>McCree and Hanzo
This is absolutely illogical and it's never going to happen.
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>Rein isnt on our team
>We lose

>Rein is on our team
>We Win

Fuck all of those who say they cant Rein. It's not difficult to hold up a shield to save us from damage, aim a huge fucking projectile, land at least 3 charges a game and land an ult that is as wide as a choke point.
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>>171372740
No! No homo! :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=resvX3_sukY

Or if you must, make McCree or Hanzo the homo. The first one likes leather and the latter already runs around without a shirt.
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>>171372814
>Torb prefers spending time with his robots and turrets to his real children
Could be pretty interesting and sad story
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>>171372843
I don't think it's going to happen. That doesn't preclude one or both of them being gay on their own, though.
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>>171372871
All Japanese are fags anyway
>>
Often do Widowmakers aimbot in your games?
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>>171372784
>And now you're a -1 to every team you play since he's a shit support now

Do you solely base this on the range reduction? Have you tried playing him on PTR?
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I have never tried ptr before but I seriously need to see these lucio changes
10 meters sounds so small
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>>171372987
Yes, I have.
>teammates aren't standing right next to him
>they get zero healing
Lucio has been taken out back and put down
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>>171372983
So many of their shots seem to be impossible to predict so I expect at least 30% of them.
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>>171373023
You ever notice how quickly a payload covers 10 meters? Yeah, it's just that short
Lucio is a fucking troll pick now
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>>171372675
He'll play the objective to capture it like the domination gamemode in CoD, and then immediately runs off to chase kills once we get it. On payload maps, he never touches the payload because hes running around the edge of the map looking to shoot people in the back, which wouldn't be so bad if he knew how to pick his battles, but he'll just try to 1v6 the enemy while we're all sitting on the payload preparing for the teamfight.

I've told him that he needs to stick on the point and play the objective, and that he'll have better success if he stays with us and picks the healers off in the melee instead of trying to kill them while their tanks are right there with nothing else to do. He always says things like "Yeah I know, but it's tough to break that old fps mindset."
He says he'll work on it but nothing ever changes, and it frustrates me, but I'm not going to tell him to go fuck himself and potentially damage our friendship over a video game.
At least the internet allows me to vent anonymously. Thank you for reading my blog. Please like, favorite and subscribe.
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>>171373023
>10 meters sounds so small
It's a fucking joke.

Lucio is dead.
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>>171373039
>teammates aren't standing right next to him

So why aren't you standing behind your teammates? Just because you have to play him a little differently now doesn't mean he's instantly shit. Big whoop that you can't reach Pharah or Genji from the other side of the room.
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>mfw playing the "new" Lucio
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>>171372814
>Torb and Bastion in a father-and-child sort of relationship
I absolutely love that.

Xmas 2017 would have Torb and all of his brood together with Bastion dressed as the xmas three. New interactions with Torb sneak dissing Zen with stuff like "Well at least there's ONE omnic in this world with his head screwed on right. Can't say the same for the rest of them."
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>>171373148
>Lucio has to be standing next to his team instead of just fucking off wallriding somewhere in the general vicinity to help them
>in exchange he gets buffs out the ass

sounds fair to me
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>>171373148
>Lucio has to actually play a game and not just jump around trying to survive
Wtf Blizzard
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>>171373148
Considering everything else he got, he needs a rather heavy draw back I feel.
That range may be pitiful, but everything else, especially the fucking boop is just insane.

Ever tried to boop someone and they pretty much move no where? That wont be a thing now. Up into the air they go. I hope you like being pushed off cliffs consistently now.
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>>171372740
>Who will go homo next
Rein and Torb in a brokeback mountain situation
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>>171373148
>Wahh i cant be like dspstanky and play aggressively
>>
But how am I supposed to do sick beat drops from the top of route 66s mesas if i can't build my ult
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>>171373262
>Torb
>when he's had heterosexual intercourse with his wife at least 86 times
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>>171373175
>So why aren't you standing behind your teammates?
Because I don't want to get picked off for treading the front lines
>Just because you have to play him a little differently now doesn't mean he's instantly shit.
No, he's instantly shit because they removed the only thing Lucio had going for him
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>>171372740
I doubt any existing character would be homo
What if Doomfist is a faggot who behaves like Jonny Bravo?
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>>171373262
They play "Daddy Reinhardt and his little Torblet" together.
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Yes stay distracted by Lucio nerfs while Orisa can pull an entire team into the pit
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>>171373353
>I doubt any existing character would be homo
>
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>>171373303
That's the thing though. You can play WAY more aggressively as Lucio, just at the cost of less support
>faster wallriding
>speed boost from jumping off a wall
>faster projectiles
>even more passive healing
>harder boops

he's going to be a goddamn nightmare to kill
Winston isn't even a threat anymore
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>>171373148
>that visual aid for his range
new feature?
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>>171372983
I remember playing Tracer once, I teleported towards Widow and immediately got headshot after. Later, she had play of the game and I got to see her claim that her aim snapping into a headshot on me post teleport, and then back across to get a headshot on someone that hadn't even been on her screen was "skill" and not aimbot.
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>>171373353
It will definitely be an existing character, because Blizzard intentionally wanted to avoid introducing someone as gay. So instead we all knew Tracer already, before she was revealed to be a lesbian.

So either that, or they will add new heroes, and only way down later tell us that they are gay.
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>>171372862
why dont u rein then -_-
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>>171373410
The current one is a stand in, they're planning to implement a cleaner graphic for it in the future.
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>>171373353
I really like sarcastic homo characters, but I wonder if this would fit with his voice.

He is probably just going to be the overthetopevilsounding black bro.
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>>171373353
people still say faggot?

yikes
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>>171373492
We live in a world where a half-sentient, white supremacist cheeto was elected into the white house. You really shouldn't be surprised.
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tfw no gamegrump hero
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>>171373525
>half-sentient
>white supremacist
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>>171373473
>Not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcP2s7CHiuo
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>>171373525
>tfw a bronze level player is also a lefty sjw libtard

MANY
KEKS
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>>171373303
DSP playing Lucio doesn't even support very well and people don't mind. His playstyle is more of a defense hero with doing little heals and providing speedboost.
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>>171373565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlMHdhf0nvE

SMURFETTE WIDOW SKIN WHEN
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>>171373525
>half-sentient, white supremacist
You mean a regular white supremacist
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>>171373451
>So either that, or they will add new heroes, and only way down later tell us that they are gay.
I don't think there's really a problem with that, or they could just bring it up organically in pre-game interactions or something.
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>All these people saying Lúcio is useless now
See?, I told you when the changes were anounced. Retards come in, read the word "nerf", and instantly throw their hissy fits.
Meanwhile Lúcio is deadlier than ever, and can alternate with little problem between going in and killing and coming back to his team to heal them as long as there are walls around. Fucking ASSFAGGOTS mentality.
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>>171365349
you're the only constant lol!!!!!XD
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>>171373856
I think pre-game banter is especially a no-no, because everyone hears that. Currently, Tracer is only lesbian in the comic, which I believe is a deliberate choice.
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>>171374012
That's true. Point is that it's doable, they'd just have to hold off a little from the character's introduction, which doesn't seem all that hard. I just don't think we should necessarily mark new characters off as not gay just because they're new.
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>>171374012
>I think pre-game banter is especially a no-no, because everyone hears that.
>Oi, doc! Can I eat ya snatch latah?
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>>171374116
fuck i hate that angel of death bitch why wont she shut up
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>>171373589
>trumptards have to lash out with baseless ad hominem attacks to make themselves feel better

It's pitiful, really. Enjoy your (You), my brain damaged friend.
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>>171371758
It suits me because I always forget to wallride during battles so I'm basically sitting with my team anyway. Plus, contesting payloads as Lucio is honestly one of my favourite things to do in the game and it sounds like I'll be able to survive even longer now.
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>>171371843
>this might reduce his pickrate
that was the point genius
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>>171374181
>calling someone a trumptard when they lost the election

If I could more anymore smug, it would be illegal.
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>>171374287
He's picked so much because he's too strong.
The point was making him weaker, which would logically lead to him being played less.
This is making him better in the hands of skilled players and worse in the hands of shitters, which in general is good for the game but not in the case of a hero who is already OP in all skill brackets.
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>>171371758
>Making deathball comps mandatory
Gee this is going to make higher-level gameplay Fun (TM)
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>>171374686
BUT IT'S ARLEADY FUN

LOOK HOW MUCH FUJN ANA FBRINGSADHJbawn
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>>171361720
let him be able to end his charge when he wants
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>Mei with a pocket Mercy

May as well be fucking immortal
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>>171374821
>kill Mercy
>kill Mei
Are you dumb, nigga?
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>>171374821
>Anything with a pocket Mercy
KILL THE MERCY YOU TROGLODYTE
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>>171374868
how are you supposed to kill Mercy while Mei is freezing you?
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>>171374837
the only good console webm I've ever seen and it's amazing
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>tfw downloaded csgo and esea
g-good bye multikulti bullshit haha
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>>171374902
stay outside of spitting range?
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>>171356641
support main?
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>>171374895
>attack Mercy
>Mei freezes you
>Mei also blocks retreat with ice wall

Unless you're in a wide open field you just aren't going to win.
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>Everyone who got butthurt about Lucio's huge nerf

Yes, overall it's a huge nerf. But that's good. Lucio was even more of a mandatory pick than Rein. If your team had no Lucio and the other team did, even one who doesnt really do anything and just emotes most of the time, your team is on a huge disadvantage.

I like the buff. His impact on a match went way down, but the payoff from playing him well actually feels goddamn rewarding now.
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>>171360012
they do exist, and they're better than you
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>>171375148
>If your team had no Lucio and the other team did, even one who doesnt really do anything and just emotes most of the time, your team is on a huge disadvantage.

This isnt correct
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>>171373402
they said from the begging that one character was already gay

why it surprised by people that it's the short haired flippy girl that wears FUCKING CROCS OF ALL SHOES is still funny to me.
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>>171375106
You know, there's quite a few characters in this game that wield guns, and they're pretty useful if you want to kill something without entering melee range.
Plus I can kill Mercys in that situation quite consistently with Winston, so what's your excuse?
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Time to blast some eurobeat with new lucio
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>>171375176
Just emoting was an exaggeration, but it's true. The bare minimum you gotta do as Lucio is just exist. Even without nabbing environmental kills, you're already on a team that moves 30% faster than your opponent, which entirely makes up for a 5v6.
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>>171374979
B-but muh waifus..
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>>171375325
>fighting mei with winston
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I hope Doomfist is a true villain. Like in pre-game banter he insults and talks down on Overwatch agents
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>>171375415
No, no. I'm telling you, you have to kill the Mercy. See? You're so stubborn in killing the Mei, you just can't see past her.
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>>171375329
This will make me actually boot up Overwatch from time to time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNveMjoSxp0
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>>171375717

Yes, let me drag my enormous gorilla as that does no damage close to Mei while trying to kill her healer
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>>171375930
If you're that interested, usually I jump behind them, start zapping them and then begin the shield dance, so I don't get frozen. But I'm not telling you to go Winston when you see a Mei-Mercy combo, I'm just saying you should prioritize the Mercy.
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>>171374116
Tracer would never eat another woman's snatch! Only Emily's snatch belongs to her.
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I can feel the loss streak incoming
thank you blizzard
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Why didn't they just make Lucio aura effects decrease over distance?
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Characters that are objectively OP:
>Soldier 76
>Bastion
>Roadhog

Prove me wrong.
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>>171376282
>blzz
>mkng sns
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>>171376312
Add Pharah to that as well.
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>>171376282
>Why didn't they just make Lucio aura effects decrease over distance?
To make it clear for your team to stay fucking close.

Idiots like you are the reason his heal was nerfed.

Fucking overextending DPS players.
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>>171354831
>Solo queue
>Get a couple of retards picking shit like Junkrat versus Pharah
>Lose the game
>Duo queue
>Able to rely on at least one person to do their job
>Win 80% of our games together

Is there really supposed to be some sort of shame in duo queueing? This game's community is pretty trash so I've never gotten why people think duo queueing means you're 'boosted'.

Are you supposed to not be having fun 90% of the time in solo queue instead?
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@171376343
try baiting harder my man
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>>171376454
It's a team game, your mates make the best team you can have. Doesn't matter how many.
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>>171375148
>Lucio was even more of a mandatory pick than Rein.
Eh not really, at most ranks I think blocking spam is more important than being fast. Shitty players can't dodge anything even with speed boost and need a big rectangle to block Hanzo arrows and helix rockets or they'll get picked.
t. Lucio main who went from gold to master
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>>171376312
>he cannot counter a bastion with a hanzo
how is gold doing for you?
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>be season 3
>At 2300 range
>Gain 20 SR for wins
>Lose 40
>Go through hell climbing up to plat
>Finally do it
>This season
>Around the same SR starting out
>Gain 40 lose 20
>mfw

Sure is video games in here
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>>171376343
I mean you can say her damage output is great but her ult sucks dick and she still requires a lot of skill to land direct hits consistently. Not to mention her main mode of movement sucks dick against decent hit scan players. I'm not the best Pharah in the world and unless I'm landing directs, even if I land a splash right fucking next to your foot it'll only do like 30-40 damage.

Tell me how she's OP.
>>
Has anyone ever made it from Bronze to Gold?

It feels impossible. I can single handled clear points, get killed, and they already lose it. No matter how good I am, there's just no way
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>>171376962
Yeah, but I'm a GM player though. I struggled getting past platinum though, for some reason everyone just has the most fragile egos there and again at Masters
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>>171376962
I made it from silver to plat. You should try to find good people to queue with. I won't lie it was hell getting out of silver though.
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>>171357154
I'm a communist intellectual and in top 500. Fuck off, retarded, uneducated Drumpfkin.
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>>171376206
Fixd
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I am Jeff Kaplan. Ask me anything.
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>>171377261
go back to everquest
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>>171377239
2/10
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>>171377261
I have a great idea for a new hero. What email can i send it to?
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>>171377303
Sorry
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>>171377261
I hear that if you wrestle with Jeff, you should prepare for death. But what if you wrestle with Geoff?
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>>171373727
>TFW Noire skin never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NhcssVFeUw
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Why doesn't charecter bio have everyone's favorite food and anime in it?
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>>171377239
Why does she wear the goggles?
Because Emily's a squirter.
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>>171377436
>Mercy doesn't have anything
>76's Strike Commander lore is on his Daredevil skin
It's like they didn't even look at the menus before passing this patch.
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>Randomly hear "Want to know the forecast?"
>See enemy Pharah and immediately assume shes about to ult
>Kill her the moment she starts it
Why do idiots seriously think they can be all cool and random and telegraph their ult for the entire enemy team to see
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>>171377383
>Noire skin
The most ugly skin to put on bleu
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>>171377339
[email protected]
>>171377375
Tank heroes excel at very close range, capable of engaging enemies in any situation.
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>>171377549
its good except for the wire dreadlocks
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>>171377549
Nobody can draw Widowmaker's nose right. Such a shame.
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fuck imagine the game with all the ptr changes
winston bubbles, orisa shields, speed demon lucio
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>>171377436
Anime doesn't exist in the future
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>>171377518
>a faggot on the enemy team keeps doing it
>everyone kills him whenever he ults
>it goes on for several minutes
>he does it again
>no ult is coming
>he keeps spamming it, but still doesn't ult
what happened?
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>>171377781
Psychological warfare.
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>>171377781
He already wasted half of his ults doing it, he's still a retard. If at one point he tries to 'le epic mindgame XD' then you can just go back to standard assumptions as to when they have ult based on how long its been since they've used it.
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>>171377903
that's the thing
he never ulted after that, but he didn't just do nothing either
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>>171377661
>Tfw love playing Winston but just dont get enough opportunity to play him in comp

I have never been so ready.
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>Near Atomato is shit
>go back playing Overwatch

It's fucking happening again. Another Blizzard game, killing videogames for me.
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>>171376312
Why don't you just add Torbjörn and Junkrat while you are at it?
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>>171377501
I wish to engage in a very high tempo and fast paced sexual intercourse with Lena Oxton.
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Ana is so fucking disappoint
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>>171377501
Actually it's for eye protection against very high speeds :^)
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>>171378260
tfw I was stupid and never considered that
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>>171378260
That's confusing because Tracer never moves faster than running speed. She's skipping through reality when she blinks, she wouldn't feel any momentum.
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>Calling out enemy flankers with ults
>calling out healers down
>Team gets ripped by reaper ult
>Team get ripped by pharah ult
>Check voice chat
>2 persons in
>Me and Mercy
Why Queue comp and turn voice chat off?
is QP that bad?
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>>171378330
Tracer's manipulating her own time when she blinks, aka drastically changing her running speed.
>>
>when your team is such a no-presence piece of shit it feels like 1v6
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>>171378189
and what's she supposed to do? can't tell pharah how to live her life when she's over thirty years old and can't tell mercy to fuck off either.
such is life of an old hag
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>>171376808
She is harder to hit and getting attacked by her often comes as a surprise. She can also easily get kills by shooting in a general direction. A hero like Widowmaker needs a lot more skill to actually hit things effectively.
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>>171378497
>can't tell mercy to fuck off either
Yes she can
>>
>Lost 4 promo matches in a row
>Got annihilated every single one

SAVE ME PLEASE
>>
>tfw you have a godlike performance that makes you afraid to touch a hero because it won't likely be replicated
It takes me like 10 games to warm up fully anyway. I wish I knew hiw to be consistantly good.
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>>171378621
and why should she listen?
>>
HOW SHIT CAN YOUR MCREE/SOLDIER BE THAT YOU HAVE GOLD DAMAGE AS WINSTON

GET ME OUT OF THIS HELL
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>>171378497
>tfw no Grandkids ever ever
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>>171378413
Which means she'd need to get stronger when she blinks, which doesn't make much sense.
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>>171378959
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>171378878
Hey, this is what science is for. They'll get there eventually.
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>>171378989
To increase your running speed, you need more strenght. It's as simple as that.
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>>171378726
>Just got shit pushed in by mlg Tracer

I FUCKING HATE ALL THESE TRACERS
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>>171378878
>Pharmercy
>with young Ana
Um...I hope this was an oversight.
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>>171378959
Her ability is manipulating her own time m8, that's how Blizzard describes it. She's never actually teleporting. Since she's an entity beyond time I assume the usual Physic Laws don't apply to her.
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lucio is dead
kill ana and reinhardt next
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>>171378839
Because Pharah is hers.
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>hog is OP
GIT
GUDDER
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>>171379114
>lucio and ana get nerfed
>mercy is once again the most picked hero

is this what you want
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>>171379071
Nope. Mercy is going to jail.
>>
I wish you could tell whether someone is playing in a group from the bnet client. Sometimes I have a friend online who I want to play with but I'm not in the mood for a big group, but if I go online now they'll invite me either way and I'll be roped into possibly playing with lots of people.

Life's hard.
>>
Filling comps or instalocking?
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>>171379258
It was done in the name of science. That makes it ok. How else is she gonna inject her nanomachines?
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>>171379258
DELET THIS
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>>171379407
Instalocking, just to make sure no one else picks your favorite.
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>>171379487
Yes. That's what it was. Mercy had to give Fareeha an injection. Under her shirt. With medicine. And nothing else.
>>
YOu dense mother fuckers don't seem to realize how much of a short range 10m is. You literally have te be inside Reinhardt's ass to be usefull. The moment you try to have some fun and wallride, BAM, you will get flamed and called back down to get in range like a healslut.
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>>171379407
i have an expensive NVME SSD so i can instalock every game ;)

if this type of storage ever becomes the standard, i'll move to a RAMdisk, so i can keep instalocking hanzo ;)
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>>171379601
Yes. "Medicine". It's good for your health. You are correct.
>>
>>171379616
And you don't seem to get that the wallride speed means you can go in and out of your team's reach in no time.
>>
Soldier is boring as fuck, but he's also free SR.
What do?
>>
i hope they keep the visible aura.

wallride is fun now and the increased healing more than makes up for the decreased aoe, though i hope reddit will whine until they make it 20m, so lucio is beyond broken. i love broken shit.
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>>171377516
At least try my nigga.
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PTR SR and Live SSR don't effect each other right? I want to try and do some dumb fun shit on PTR competitive.
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>>171379107
You can headcanon it any way you like, since Blizzard hasn't given much info about her blinks, but teleporting would make the most sense, because that doesn't brake physical laws (at least, not in theory).

I like to think that her blinks conserve her momentum, so she's basically doing very fast jumps, which is why people don't see her. She leaps, activates her device, and appears where she intended to land. But she didn't need more strenght/energy/speed to do it and probably doesn't experience any "extra" time during the leap.
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>lucio is now useless in low ranks
>lucio is now op in high ranks because the team can stick together

gj blizzard
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>>171379728
Fuck off Chu.
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>>171379730
PTR SR is your live SR from the moment the live state was saved. notice how your level in the PTR is not up-to-date? your SR isn't either.
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>>171379730
Nope
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>>171379228
2nd most picked tank in GM
feels good
>>
How the fuck do you deal with an MLG Tracer?
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>>171379728
Fuck off Hammeh.
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>>171379616
30m radius = 60m area of effect

10m radius = 20m area of effect

Elementary Astrology. Monumental nerf.
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>>171379916
Torbjörn.
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>>171379749
how DARE they promoting teamwork in a team game >_<
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>>171379916
Hold right click, shoot three or four balls into her head.
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>>171379916
Hanzo with a lucky flick
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>>171379974
>promoting teamwork suddenly turns retards into non retards

If this was true, we wouldn't have a constant influx of bronzes, silvers and golds complaining about how Symmetra autoaim is op.
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>>171379916
just fuckin ignore her lmao is she even real lol
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>>171380013
>lucky
this is what tracer mains actually believe
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>>171380039
It is OP, tho. Doesn't need aiming, is excessive in lengh, and does high damage. I'd be okay with one of these, but the others would have to go.
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>>171380039
I'm GM and I think it's OP, it's just Symmetra is in the same tier as Reaper when it comes to delivering that damage.

Why pick them when Roadhog is safer and better.
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>>171380097
>tracer main

I'm actually a Hanzo main And landing those shots feels incredibly dirty, even though I've managed to pull them off consistently. I guess Ana bots do work.
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>>171380045
She's too real
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>>171380182
>>171380097
it's the fucking log sized arrow hitboxes you degenerates
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>>171380097
>quickplay
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>>171378878
just get McCree to donate sperm, boom done
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>>171380132
Sym is squishy and the dps is actually lower than average, if you die to her it's either because it's a 2cp chokepoint or because you are bad.
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>>171379071
>>171379258
ohgod
>>
>>171379258
Is there more to this?
>>
What the fuck is wrong with the matchmaking? I hit plat 2500 and haven't been able to win a game since. I'm down at 2070 or something and I'm fucking losing my sanity.
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>>171379653
Is it worth getting an SSD literally just for this purpose?
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>>171380276
>no true grandmaster, etc
If something here is bad, it's that argument! Since all the characters move at the same pace, it's difficult to break away from her death beam, if you get caught. Especially since its lenght increases when it's active, which doesn't make sense at all.
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>>171380456
Yes. Instalock genji or handsoap and it's so funny watching shitters rage at you because they didn't get there first
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>>171379258
where do I find the full set
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>>171380437
I was plat end of last season. 5 straight loses in promos right now. Matchmaking is fucked.
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>>171380456
Get an SSD anyway anon

I'm amazed people still are playing on toasters that don't have them
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ti34STeaU

this is my type of pornography.
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>>171380495
>break away

t. silver

You are supposed to shoot her
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>>171380495
You break free by killing her. It's true that the leash expanding doesn't make much sense though.
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>>171378116
Now we really need this kind of quality for overwatch asses.
WE DON"T HOLD THE TITLE OF BEST ASS IN VG
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>>171378726
>promo
>>171380524
>promo
Is this some sort of League of Lolbabbys lingo, or something...? Here they are called placement matches.

>>171380578
And if you happen to be on low health? Seriously, I could argue that everybody should be able to dodge Soldiers bullets, otherwise they are baddies. (But it just doesn't work like that.)
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>>171379828
>2nd out of 5
>somehow the first one is not OP too

lmao
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>>171380456
an ssd is worth it, either way. an nvme ssd not so much. i have both in my computer, the difference is negligible from my experience.
but you really should have an ssd by now. not only are they a LOT faster, they're also more reliable than traditional hdd's at this point.
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>>171380643
>that flat japanese plastic shit

>>>/jp/
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>>171379916
Torbjorn.
Mei M2 headshots only.
McMeme.
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>>171356853
>Half their effort is hugging a wall to evade the hitscan's sightline
Is that any different from someone hiding behind a shield or peeking a wall?
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>>171380568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJQkNwJeGQ
>>
how does the general chat work

is it people from same region or
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>>171379695
You can get anywhere from spawn in 3 seconds. In a way, Lucio can be infinitely more aggressive now. It's a small plus, but it's worth noting.
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>>171378116
>falling for the Nier bait

You do know /v/ worships Yoko Taro like how gamurrs worship Hideous Kojima and Hidetaka Miyazaki right?
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>>171380714
Anyone can killsteal, if you die to syms shitty short range low dps gun sometimes that doesn't make her op.
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>>171378189
Yeah, I'd be sad too if they keep pushing inferior ships.
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>>171380838
>skin on the ass bends in the fold
>flat
You blind weeb hater?
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>>171380714
ANYONE can kill you if you're low on health. More than half the cast can kill you if they get the jump on you.

Every single non tank non support- yes, including Sombra and Genji, can outdamage Symmetra's microwave.
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>>171380568
>>171380884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpY_AC7sJpU
I wonder if this kind of material has some sort of name...

>>171381085
At least (most) other heroes need rudimentary aiming, so the kill feels more justified.
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>>171381006
Shut the fuck up and get your sweet, perfect metal ass with its mind-numbingly good shape back behind Reinhardt's shield.
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>>171381272
>feels
not an argument
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New Lucio is fucking trash.
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>>171381272
>tfw Odile Widowmaker will never ballbust you.
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>>171381363
I know, isn't it great?
>>
new lucio is even better, i really hope they keep the aura indicator so the teams of randoms actually stick together

>outheals every other healer
>even faster back in the action with the new wallride
>barely even dies because of the improved heal

can't wait to see him in tournaments, he's even more of a must pick at high level play now.
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>>171369153
The Pharah one is just info straight from her bio and doesn't add anything new.
>>
>>171369705
>Literally was caught using a fucking script like he did in CS:GO

Do you have a link to this or something? Not that guy, but it's not like I don't believe you either.
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>>171381272
yeah it's called ryona. it's pretty hot
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>>171381391
>Odile widow placing a small rubber noose around them
>tightens it whilst taunting you
>she then kneads them a bit and hits them with the tiny paddle on her riding crop
>>
>>171381363
Have you played him?
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>>171381486
>started maining lucio in season 4
>tfw this buff
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>>171381869
I play almost nothing but Lucio in live competitive, I'm 3700 at the moment, I have about 100 hours on him.
I spent the last night on PTR.

And he has become absolute trash.

Once the "omg he is so fast omg the jump boost" hype dies out, people will see how fucking PATHETIC 10m range is, mark my words. I give it about a week until people start seeing this.
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Are all the healsluts still whining?
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>>171381462
robo what now?
>>
>>171381391
>>171381738
i always knew bluefags were giant cucks
>>
>>171382016
no, we're celebrating a new era of lucio domination
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>>171381729
Interesting. I'll do some searching...
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>>171382040
you don't have to be a cuck to be submissive
>>
>>171382082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vUtSPFLUok
careful you don't fall too deep into the rabbit hole.

I'm into hardcore guro now
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The new Lucio changes feel like the worst of both worlds, and this is from someone who genuinely likes the idea of the changes.

>seems like he will be really effective within the hands of high ranked players.
>seems like he will be dogshit to all those players that played him extremely passive as fuck.
>be mid-diamond rank.
>haven't played with a Lucio that is passive as fuck.

Looks like I'll have to start playing him alot more than currently.
>>
>watch GM streams
>people are actually communicating, having fun while trying to win
>go play
>people dont communicate, they are toxic, they dont want to win, they pick their manchild heroes and are fucking awful at the game, they tunnel vision all the time
why do I play this again?
>>
>>171382016
it's dps sadly trying to "btfo" lucio's by telling them they have to stay with the team to be useful, when you know that shit isn't happening with the speed/wallride buff
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I want to give Mei the Dong zhu
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>>171382237
that sick, get help
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>>171382212
moonmoon god to gm playing genji only (sometimes hanzo if someone picked genji to spite him) while calling everyone noob shitters and saying "my kill" "get carried" "need healing! damn you heal me!" over and over for like 50 games
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>>171382016
>mercy is now more relevant
>healsluts whining


? ? ? ?
?
?
?
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>>171370315
Ever played StarCraft 2?
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>>171382040
Only submissive in the bedroom, I just want her to knee the cum out of my balls.
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>>171382026
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>>171354831
New:
>>171382407
>>171382407
>>171382407
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>>171382015
Pretty sure that's what Blizzard is going for. They don't want Lucio to be giving everyone speedboost like he used to- hence the massive heal buff. They gave him the mobility so that he'd be able to get anywhere in the game in seconds and get people out of bad positions.

Basically, Lucio is mercy now. But with speedboost instead of combat boost. And is more annoying to kill than Mei and can contest for a fucklong amount of time now.
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>>171382212
Make calls? No one listens. Shut up? No one calls. Fucking shit experience. I don't give a fuck, an average or above average player (not a god) cannot carry 3-4 paste eating faggots that refuse to combo anything or utilize common strategies/synergies.
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>>171382429
1 post early.
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Finally. No one's here to see me admit that I want to be a slutty Mercy cosplayer.
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>>171370701
Pot shotting shields probably. Hop in to quickplay and play in a match where there are no tanks or anything that throws out shields. You'd get an estimate of how accurate you really are. Mostly it's positioning.
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>>171376273
Well what happened?
>>
>>171382351
yea but he started from diamond, right?
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>>171382706
Nobody likes girls () anyway
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>>171383378
Maybe I could be a cute trappy cosplayer?
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>>171383420
>Cute
>RL trap
Pick one
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>>171383453
Don't take my dreams from me
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>>171371130
I think I'd like it more if they announced Morrison and Reyes were an item before. Tracer being lesbian was so obvious to me that I didn't see it coming. To think that Blizz would be pandering to pro-LGBTQ audience, they would pick someone who doesn't have the stereotypical dyke look.
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>>171372253
They made Lucio more fun to play as desu.
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>>171372843
Yeah this. I don't think Chu would give in and make them gay just to have another gay character.
And aren't the Japanese pretty homophobic?
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>>171373303
You can though. Lucio's penis is pretty big. With them faster you can build up ult faster instead of denying your other healer ult charge by stealing their heals assuming you hit something that isn't Rein's shield.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om8wJbhnBNU kek
>>
Lucio current's status:
Can't actually solo people
Healing team isn't frustrating
Can't outheal Winston
Is a mild threat in 1v1

Lucio PTR status:
Can actually solo people
Healing team is frustrating
Can outheal Winston
Is a threat in 1v1

Lose yourself to the rhythm
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>>171386204
Lucio current's status:
Is not a threat in 1v1 against almost all characters at all distances

Lucio PTR status:
Healing team is frustrating as FUCK
Is a mild threat in 1v1 against some characters at some distances due to sheer survivability

FTFY
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how are people playing PTR Lucio? I've been fiddling with swapping to healing when wallriding then back to speed right after. you don't lose any speed but you get some healing in.

Also the visual for the aura's AOE is really nice
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