/fhg/ - For Honor General

1st for nobushi is mai waifu
t.warden

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>>171299351
Centurion waiting room

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Warden a best

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>>171299452
>tfw i dont remember the last time i met a side dash attacking roach
they were so much fun to bully

I've seen some impressive Bushi plays, how do I gitgud with her?

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How do we end the defensive meta fhg ?

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>>171299427
The Ninja does kinda look like old Joe Musashi, doesn't it?

Lewdkeeper is best girl.

>>171299452

Nerf soon hopefully :)

>>171299629
practice
also watch kinseymister, he is the nobushi that made to top8 in one of the recent 4glory tournaments

What should be done to conq? OP or not he needs a rework, he feels too simmilar to warlord. His unique charge gimmick goes unused in compeditive play, andnhis heavy bounce is really just compensation for the fact that he can't parry while charging.

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>>171299626
Tell me about it.

>>171299698
punish not parrying with stam drain/chip dmg
don't punish your attacks being blocked with stamina drain

>>171299698
Make all attacks independant of stance

>>171299186
Could be worse, they could just mistake you for a Space Furfag

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So wait there is 60(?) pieces of gear for each class but only 60 slots? My fucking vanity autism is so mad right now. Why is there even a limit on gear? Server space or some stupid shit? At least give us like 20 more of what the amount per class is.

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Fuck centurions and ninjas, where my balance patch at?

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>>171299629
From a previous thread:
>Honestly, just sit through the hero school vid in the OP about the Nobushi, it covers all the shit I use very well.
>Pro tips, know which stance to use in your matchups to compensate for your slow stance change, ex hold left guard against warden to cover their fast zone and react accordingly, same with orochi except guard top and react accordingly.
>Know your guaranteed hits like the wall bounce into top heavy. Use your side dash heavies in your mixups, they are very good at getting that last hit execution and are hard to react to.
>Hidden stance is pretty situational, if you are facing another nobushi or hybrid alot of your regular mixups wont work because of the extreme range, so just rely on your light attacks to poke them down.
>But really, 90% of what i do in every fight is in the hero school video, the youtuber is a cringey fuck, and its like 30 minutes long or something, but the player he is interviewing explaining all the shit knows what he is doing and explains it well enough.

>daily reminder that Raider is a peacekeeper killer

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Never forget.

>>171300014
But this is wrong

>>171300167
Not according to Ubisoft's internal stats; they say Raider beats Peacekeeper.

>>171300014
>>171300167
>>171300239
Raider countering Peacekeeper is the only hard counter in the game.

>>171300014
He does if you're a parry god I guess

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>>171299427
If we imagine Centurion is Knight, and Ninja is Weeb, then what will Vikings have? I think Warhammer is the only trope left.

>>171299427
>Everyone is gonna be riding the ninja/shinobi's dick upon release

4 possible release outcomes
Both are underpowered
Both are underpowered
Centurion is OP, Ninja is UP
Ninja OP, Cent UP

I just hope the cent doesn't end up like Lawbringer, really wanna main a not shit at release character

>>171300589
T W O S H I E L D S

Did a Shugoki ever come far in a tournament? I know a legendary raider once did.

>>171300597
Both are going to be OP, and then they're going to be nerfed before the community at large can play them.

>>171300597
>I just hope the cent doesn't end up like Lawbringer

If the only options are he is another Peacekeeper or another Lawbringer, which would you prefer?

>>171299978
>>Know your guaranteed hits like the wall bounce into top heavy
You already get a free top heavy off gb

>>171300778
Peacekeeper tbqh.

I wanna give shitters a taste of their own medicine.

>>171300778
A Valkyrie

>>171300805
I know. That's just what that anon said.

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>>171300626
>>171300589
NEW VIKING CHARACTER ANNOUNCED

>>171300858
I mean you don't need to wall bounce at all. You can get a free heavy off gb in any situation as nobu

>>171300704
They're going to be OP for 2-3 weeks before they get nerfed, you mean. Unless they are so dramatically under/overperforming like Valk was at launch that they balance them within the first week.

>>171300832
I mean, they'd be playing the same class as you if they were truly shitters.

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So this is how roach players keep their winrate ?
Why almost every high rep players i manage to beat with my glorious lvl5 nobushi ragequit ?

I'd like to see a mace or warhammer wielder. And a wuxia-style swordsman.

>>171299757
Yeah then Warlord can become unmatched in combat :D

>>171300778
>If the centurion's weapons are actually a gladius or some type of sword and a cestus...
>Cestus
>Spikey punching glove

Oh boy, get ready for another guard breaker based character.
Better known as can't do shit versus any competent player

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>>171301285
I could dig some Wu Shu with a Chinese straight sword.

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>>171301274
NANI!? M-M-Masaka!
OBAASAN, PULLU THE PLUGGU!

>>171301667
>PURRU THE PRUGGU

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>>171301706
damn, knew i forgot something

>>171301706
>PURRU ZA PURAGGO

>>171300589

Pirates

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Does anyone else have random FPS drops to like 20 and the only way to fix it is to restart or wait like 5 minutes for it to go away randomly? Normally i get 80+ constantly.

>>171299698
Make Stamina an actual competitive stat. Currently everyone is Atk + Def stat with 0 Stam, so you can only do a couple of attacks before needing to wait. God forbid you get parried as well. If they double the rate at which the Stam stat scaled, to the point where people started saying it was OP, then people would have the ability and resources to attack more.

>>171300589
I'm just thinking randomly that there may well be a brawler brass knuckle wrestler type class

>get epic weapon for warlord
>the blue one i have is 10x better

huh?

>>171299775
I don't understand why people complain about the Warden. All that guy did was make easily parried attacks constantly and let himself get smashed against walls.

Warden is certainly good. It would be nice to see the other classes be more competitive as well.

>>171302485
What is your V-sync ? I had mine at double and i had fps drops sometime like you, now it's set on triple and now it's back to normal

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>>171302684
I can see brass knuckles, fist knives, and other fist weapons working. It might just be a little difficult to split that weapon into 3 parts consistently across all model designs for stats.

>>171302684
>>171303228

Thats the Centurion he uses a cestus which is basically a leather glove or sorts

>>171299260
reposting from old thread

Does anybody have problems parrying fast top attacks?
I can parry side PK attacks fast as fuck but i have a problem parrying shugoki top lights
I think it might be a problem in my hand.

>>171303131
Off. This never happened til the first patch.

>>171303131
you should turn off v-sync always, it gives 2-3 frames input lag

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>>171303019
Here's a webm demonstrating why people complain about Warden.

Granted, this guy could have either just not been so predictable, or just have rolled back, but he did neither. I'm guessing the thread has similar issues.

>>171303292
what no. This is a meme. He definitely has a weapon, you can see it behind his head in his small selection portrait. It looks like it'll be maybe a wide gladius. They just haven't put his weapon in the other portraits yet.

>>171303608

A Gladius and Cestus combo

He punches your in guard breaks and stabs

>>171303321
yes, YES, it tought it was just me

>>171303019
Maybe its because he can cancel a shoulder charge into literally anything, making it impossible to actually anticipate what he's going to do

>PLAY RAIDER
>CANT KILL ANYONE
WTF IS THIS SHIT???

>>171303598
The problem is that even when you roll back the shoulder charge tracks you.

And even if it doesn't track you the warden can do it again immediately since it costs fuck all stamina.

>>171303228
Knuckles/Blade
Handguard
Bracer

Theres your 3 weapon parts.

>>171303973
EG YF A WI BITA!!!!

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>>171304001
it does not affect you in anyway if you roll
he can't do it imediatly, and if you let him, you are an idiot
also, stamina regenerates

>>171304176
I don't see how that webm is supposed to show anything since the warden doesn't even use shoulder charge, the topic of the discussion.

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post em

Why play any other asssassin over peacekeeper
So easy you have to have to intentionally play like shit to be bad at her
Berserker is supposed to be the max aggro class with sick mixups that make you spill your spaghetti, peacekeeper does it 2x better by just bashing light attacks zone attacks and half the cast literally can not block it.

Orochi is a vanguard with assassin health.

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>when you lagswitch too well
>[bot]SirKawaj

>>171304310
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>>171300904
Original poster of >>171299978
I honestly figured that a free top heavy off of gb was common knowledge so I didn't include it in my post.
If I remember correctly I was responding to someone asking how to get "better" with nobushi, not " I've never touched nobu, explain the kit to me"
Plus assuming anon took my advice and watched the hero video, they also mention it in there.

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What are the matchups you struggle the most ?
>Raider and Orochi
They aren't even op but they always fuck me up

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>>171303598
Rolling backwards is the most forceful disengage in the game, as you have to give up a lot of space and a lot of stamina. The fact that it's the only foolproof way to escape the Warden's vortex, coupled with the fact that the Warden can just run you down and do it again, means that there's a lot of cost required for what isn't even a wholly guaranteed way of stopping the Warden's setplay. It also doesn't help that the Warden has three different things he can do with his shoulder bash - commit, guardbreak cancel, or full cancel - that allow him to not only force an engagement, but keep all his offensive and defensive options open. As the WEBM in >>171299775 shows, this is only further compounded by the overall strength of defensive play and how in many cases, the best gameplan is to attempt nothing and play a reactive style.

Warden is strong, but given the opportunity, he can undeniably be one of the most oppressive characters in the game. It's almost disheartening seeing that Orochi in >>171299775 get so thoroughly outplayed just for attempting an offense or trying to stuff what may be the strongest mixup in the game (if you can call it that). I'm not surprised he ragequit on round one.

>>171304519
as nobu
>pk and warlord, roach to some extent

as warden
>conq, pk

>>171304772
how many tournaments has warden won?

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>>171303973
That's because you suck donkey dick anon
Almost all of you in this general do, all I ever see is complaining about this character and that character being OP
Take it from a lifelong Ryu main, whether or not your character is top tier is irrelevant until at the highest level of play
Use your unblockable, you have two variants, the base, and the boosted (use zone after a heavy)
Abuse the fact you have LLH, LHH, HHH strings
Your right heavy is your fastest, use for trades, up is strongest, use for damage.
Ledge, honor is for Knights and Samurai
You see, when you stop complaining and learn to use the tools at your disposal instead of acting like a tard, you make progress

>>171305054
>Abuse the fact you have LLH, LHH, HHH strings
His strings are LLL, HLH and HHH. Don't talk shit about not playing Raider correctly when you don't even know his moves.

>skirmish vs ai order
>join skirmish
>teammates are losing

how do you lose to bots, i don't underst-
>warlord bot
>peacekeeper bot
nevermind

>>171305524
Conqbots fuck me up.

>>171305524
Mine were also level 3 when I was doing mine.

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>>171304772
The shoulder bash mix up is nowhere near as bad as you're saying it is. To even get properly started, it requires the Warden to land a light, and the only light he has that's fast enough is upper, which if you know to expect it is pretty easy to block or even parry. If you're letting him start it off a dodge in neutral, the problem is probably you.

Warden is nowhere near as daunting as a Warlord or Conq played at the same level. Sure rolling back is a forceful disengage, but at least you have the option to disengage against it and exit after only taking the hit he used to start the chain.

Side note, you're referencing my own webm to me.

I'm retarded. How do you open someone up as a Lawbringer and/or Nobushi? I've been getting fucked all morning by shield users.

>>171305883
welcome to the meta

>>171305815
The responses in neutral are nearly as bad. You can cancel the thing at no penalty so late that the other guy has almost certainly begun to respond with an attack or dodge that you can then punish.
I don't think the whole thing needs killed, but the cancel point needs moved up and it needs to cost stamina even if you cancel.

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*gently throws u into a wall from behind*

Please don't play Kensei! >:3

>>171305883
Yeah, Warlords especially can be annoying. As a Nobushi, I'd say wait for an opportunity to parry and get a light attack in, or, if you can, immediately guard break and heavy.

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>>171306149
>Throws you to wall
>SHIN YO NI SHUBU
>Parry
So predictable

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>>171306403
>playing against shitters that dont cancel it into a side or light
>being such a shitter to stand there instead of dodging

>>171305815
>To even get properly started, it requires the Warden to land a light, and the only light he has that's fast enough is upper, which if you know to expect it is pretty easy to block or even parry.
You're ignoring parry > GB > double side light. You're talking about hitting a raw light or using the dodge startup, not the startup he gets off a defensive option.

It doesn't change Warden can keep his options open throught the mixup as well. Don't get me wrong: I love Warden, and I would love to see characters get buffed up to his level, but you have to admit that the whole scenario is pretty heavily slanted in Warden's favor, and those who don't know what they should do are pretty heavily bullied by it.

I never implied Warden was as oppressive as Warlord or Conqueror, neither. Shit, remember when Warlord could guardbreak-cancel his headbutt?

>>171305883
As a LB, you don't.

Unless you want to shove and hope they don't dodge.

in the eyes of a blind man everyone is equal

this is where you're wrong

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>>171306596
>Canceling it into an attack suddenly makes that attack unparriable
>Not standing there and punishing the Kensei for trying to attack

>>171306763
He could just outright cancel it and parry YOU, so there's that

>>171306403
It's JINJYO NI SHOUBU.
Also, you can't parry the top heavy unblockable if you take a wallsplat.

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>>171306596
>playing against shitters who PREDICTABLY cancel into a side and preparing accordingly
>not playing against the truest warrior who mindgame you into thinking they will cancel but actually don't

>>171306831
You can react to what he does though. You can feint to cancel the parry attempt, or you can just not parry into a feint, because the parry window starts after the window to feint ends.

>Playing against a Raider who does nothing but feint unblockables when I'm out of stamina so he can parry my parry attempt and keep me out of stamina nonstop
This is pure suffering

>>171307013
Stop falling for it.

Stop exhausting yourself.

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>>171306837
>Implying

>>171307152
You can't. If you get thrown into a wall, the unblockable is guaranteed

>>171306596
>not canceling your cancel attack into a feint and waiting for the enemy's attempt to parry your cancel and parrying them

>>171303598
>>171303019
People complain about warden because he's too flexible and gets too many ways to outplay his opponent by a guessing game which lies behind vortex.
Shoulder charge is a little bit overpowered in the way how much stamina it costs, because it has no strict counterplay, it just leads to a 4-5 possible outcomes you can possibly counter only if you guessed right. For example, if you mastered dodges - you can counter conq's shield bash completely and the only way he can outplay you is by unmistakable turtling or just trap you into a wall. But you cant do that to a warden. That kind of flexibility which warden has should cost a little bit more stamina for stoping that move being spammable more than 3 times in a short time gap, or they could make a cancel window timing is a little bit more stricter, that kind of change will allow more scenarios to outplay it, for example - that will make possible for a raider to stop warden's bash by his light-dodge without being afraid that warden just easily cancel his bash in the last frames of raider's animation without any prediction and parry his attack that gives him a free overhead heavy. A guessing game around vortex must apply to a warden too, but so far by now shoulder bash is a little bit safer than it should be. Yes, in high level of play shoulder bash isnt abusable so much, because high level play is all about classes that have tools better or equal to wardens and can counter him in a fair play (pk, warlord), but for the rest of heroes warden is a too much of a pain in the ass.

t.warden main
sorry about my language, english isnt my native.

>>171307274
>attacking

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only saving grace for nobushi is her damage
her hidden stance is useless, only use i found is to soft feint your light attacks, even then it's too slow and costs way too much stamina.

what can be done to make the best girl viable?

>>171307274
>not canceling your parry attempt and then GBing your enemies parry attempt feint

>>171307084
But what happens when I stop trying to parry it and he doesn't cancel it and I get hit?

>>171307013
Just dodge it nerd

>>171307474
She needs a way to open people up. That's where her problems lie: she gets completely neutered by good defensive play.

>>171307558
You take the hit and get your stamina back instead of getting 50/50'd and losing your stamina so it can happen again.

You then stop exhausting yourself.

>>171307625
like i said, hidden stance is way too slow and costs too much
and her kick is punishable on dodge
i would love to see those 2 things to get buffed

>>171307297
this defensive meta is making warden strong, people are so afraid to throw any attack, so warden gets his shoulder charged for free

>>171307297
In other words, the Warden's mixup is always safe because he never has to commit at any real cost to himself, and it's only compounded by the fact it loops into itself at minimal cost. It's like Focus Attack Dash Cancels in Street Fighter IV: they made everything safe.

>>171308016
This as well. The defensive meta is much of what makes the vortex as strong as it is, because any sort of offensive counter can always be, well, countered.

>>171308016
It's not even just the defensive meta, it's wardens charge being bullshit
>Warden charges his shoulder charge
>Go go to hit him
>He cancels and parries the hit
It's bullshit, see here>>171299775

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Alright fhg, i tried my hardest but i simply can't dodge a single attack
I tried dodging into it, in the opposite of it, when the red icon appear, or with a timing exact of a parry.
What am i missing ? I'm playing hybrid class if that helps

>>171308391
first of all none of this is done on reaction
second of all if you guess right you punish warden
and most counters have better odds to counter warden than than warden getting it right

and that bulshit in your webm is literally a warden reading that roach like a book, welcome to mind games

>>171307625
This is Kensei's problem, too. He has no real way to forcibly crack open an opponent's defense. I would like to see how Ubisoft addresses the defensive meta first before seeing if Kensei needs any tools.

>>171308518
Honestly just gotta time it perfectly in the attacking direction. Never rely on it. I use it as a flook in the moment thing

>>171308518
Go into the Practice Duel vs. Lvl 1 Bot.
It'll give you a Raider to practice on.

>>171308616
>second of all if you guess right you punish warden
>Guess
>The key to beating a Warden is properly guessing their own individual playstyle within 3-5 matches
Why not just admit that his shoulder charge is fucking broken?

>>171308391
You use a bad example. In that webm, even if the bash wasn't canceled the hit wouldn't have landed, because he did Orochi's slow ass side attack.

But even if it would have landed, it's not like the bash was canceled on reaction to him throwing out an attack. I canceled it because I was predicting he'd do a side dash and wanted to parry it. All the vortex options are based on prediction.

>>171308257
Its not "always" safe, but its safer for a warden spamming it than for his opponent trying to counter it in any way.

>>171307474
>best girl
>not female Warden

Her braid is cute. CUTE!

>>171308768
You realize that it's a guessing game for the Warden, not you, right?

You have three options to get out of Vortex. Warden has to guess which one you're going to do. He gets rewarded for getting it right.

>>171308768
because it's not

>>171308518
It's in the timing. Just have to see what the window is.

>>171308810
braids are dumb

>>171308903
>Dodge his shoulder charge
>Nope, guessed wrong because he canceled into a GB
>Guessing is all on the Wardens end though
It's nonsense. The only safe move is to roll away and that's just ridiculous.
>>171308925
It costs almost no stamina do to and can easily be spammed with no guaranteed escape beyond rolling. It's broken

>>171309161
Braids are ADORABLE!

Braids hanging out of your helmet when you're going into an open war zone is dumb. Shits just asking to get yanked.

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>>171309161
DELET THIS

Ladyknights are cute. CUTE!

>>171309254
>>171309286
braids are dumb

>>171307420
>>171307505
>buying the game

>>171308903
Can't you guardbreak on command during the chargeup at no delay? If you see the enemy go for a dodge, you can immediately press GB and get it, right?

>>171309230
you keep using that word 'guaranteed' and i don't think you know that guaranteed counters to everything are bad for the game

we have had this discussion every single thread

no, warden is not op, learn to read your opponents patterns and counter it

stop asking to nerf the character that breaks the turtle meta and go ask buffs for your snowflake character instead

>>171309230
>Be the Warden in your example
>Go into shoulder bash animation
>Okay is he going to eat it or dodge
>Ehhhh I think he's gonna dodge
>Cancel into GB
Yeah, and the guessing is all on the victims end, huh?

Here, watch this webm >>171303598
You can see that every single time, the choice was made before being able to see what the Orochi was doing. If either person changed what they were doing, he would have gotten out of the vortex and been able to punish it.

This also isn't the only 50/50 in the game. Shug can keep doing his fucking charge 50/50 if he wants, but you're not bitching about that.

>>171305054
>tiers don't matter in high level play
Love this meme.

>conq gets gb after blocked attacks
???? Whats the counter play to this?
Can't fucking gbc or dodge the bash after it literally wont let me.

>>171305524
>duel order
>everyone is an ultra defensive rep 15+ shitter

>>171309579
>Shug can keep doing his fucking charge 50/50 if he wants, but you're not bitching about that.
Because either way, that's a big swing coming from one direction that can be parried either way.

>>171309520
The GB always comes out at the same time, regardless of when they hit to do it. This is why you never see Wardens go into the shoulder stance for like 3 frames: the timing is not variable.

>>171309862
I meant his running charge. He starts sprinting up to you, and you can either try to dodge the charge and get GB'd, or try to counter the GB, get knocked on your ass by his charge, and eat a heavy.

>>171309650
>lmao just outskill a warlord conq as zerker
>lmao just outskill a peacekeeper as lawbringer
>lmao just outskill a shugoki as raider.

Can any South America fags tell me if the game is populated enough over here to warrant a purchase?

>>171310018
unrelated but i have found that a lot of pks dont expect you to actually attack them

i keep catching them with lights

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So let me see if I understand this

Warden shoulder bash starts the game

Opponent has to deal by
A) light to stagger
B) dodge to avoid
C) roll to disengage

Warden can then counter AGAIN by
1) cancel into a gb
2) cancel to a parry
3) finish charge

A beats 1 and 3
B beats 3 and 2
C beats 1, 2 and 3, but not really because opponent has lost more stamina.

1 beats B
2 beats A
3 beats fuck all because opponent has missed his opportunity.

So of the 6 possible outcomes that don't include the target rolling or doing nothing, warden wins 2. He can continue the Vortex 1/3 times and eats a parry or light the other 2/3.

How is this unfair?

>>171310323
I just side dash heavy as PK - never seen them cancel into parry on it

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED

OROCHI NERF PLS

>>171310323
Because warden, assuming equal but fast enough reflexes, gets to pick AFTER the opponent does.

>>171310568
Even the roach was confused

>>171310568
says the environment killed you but i dont see how, theres no spikes or anything

>max stats level Shoguki one shots me with his club
excuse me what the fuck?

>>171310653
not true

hornless raider when

>>171310568
Dude you can almost double the bitrate in this webm my man.

As for the content, you need to stop spamming uppers

As for the glitch, I don't know game is fucky sometimes. Best guess is you got pushed into the box and the game decided to environmental you.

>tfw you fell in love wtih kensei during cbt
>venetually get bored and play around
>always come back to kensei
Who /swordsaint/ here?

>>171310734
The end of the cancel window on the bash is later than you need to dodge to avoid it at most ranges.

>>171310653
No he doesn't. You could only think this if you've never played Warden.

>>171310758
It's not me playing, it's my brother.

I was behind fighting the Axefag and he just starts yelling "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS MEME CHARACTER I JUST DIED IN ONE HIT"

>You can top light out of Warden's vortex, shoulder bash or cancel into GB
>You CANT top light valk's vortex if she shoulder bashes you, confirms into heavy, into vortex again

People still complain about warden?

>>171310956
I don't get it man. I thought we would be past this by now, but shows what I know.

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>brother getting the game, hopefully will be able to play tomorrow
>said he looked into the characters, and wants to main peacekeeper
>tell him not to because it's a crutch character
>still wants to because he thinks he's going to need a crutch to compete with experienced players when he's new

How do I stop this from happening?

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You have 10 seconds to explain how when you're losing, standing near the edge and waiting to throw you opponent off isn't completely fucking retarded and a broken mechanic and needs fixing.

>>171311004
I think the issue is that things come out quickly, and for most players, they're not aware of the answers.

>>171311091
Because they can tech your inevitable guardbreak and knock you off themselves. They know EXACTLY what you're going for, so they have the knowledge advantage and can prime their reflexes to tech the guardbreak.

>>171311051
Explain to him just how bad of a crutch she is. There are people that are Rep 15 with her that are absolute garbage at the game because PK never forces you to learn how to play. If he starts on PK now, he's going to have an even harder time switching later because hell know next to nothing, but still be pairing up against experienced players.

If he needs a crutch character that still requires decent fundamentals, get him on Warlord or Valk or something.

You could also explain to him that duel matchmaking is actually pretty okay at giving low leveled people similarly skilled opponents. Watch the dev livestream: they're like a level 5 so they're pairing up with level 10s and such.

>>171310568
>2 back to back top lights as warden

You got what you deserved shitter

>>171311051
stop being a faggot and let your friend main what he wants

>>171311091
Guardbreaks are so useless when both people know what they're doing, so either he's a shitter or you're a shitter. They need to buff raw guardbreak and nerf guardbreak off of parry.

>>171311469
>>171310881
>>171310881
>>171310881
>>171310881
>It's not me playing, it's my brother.
>It's not me playing
>not me
Go shart in mart and learn to read a book you fucking nigger American.

>>171310568
the kill feed says environment, so the environment killed you. maybe a map bug. unless there's spikes or some shit you didn't see.

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>Day zero Lawbringer vs. Berserker on the Village map
>Pretty clean fight
>Slowly fight the zerker back towards the bridge with the gap into the lava
>Zerker doesn't seem to notice
>GB and chuck her into the soup
>"wow what kind of fucking bitch are you"
>"The kind who knows when his opponent's back is exposed to lava."

>>171310323
You mean fast light to stagger? Because i stagger shoulders with my LB top light, nobody can parry it, canceling or not - it hits them mid-charge

>>171311051
He's right though, this game is extremely noob-unfriendly, especially for those who got no fighting-genre experience at all.

>>171311051
>>still wants to because he thinks he's going to need a crutch to compete with experienced players when he's new
He literally will need a crutch, and can learn the basics as PK. Let him do what he wants

>>171311051
If you must stop him from playing what he wants, go with what >>171311425 says. Peacekeeper can potentially teach really bad habits, and bad habits are killer in fighting games. Use the vanguards first to at least get familiar with the system, then move on to Peacekeeper later once he's more comfortable.

>>171311805
Yup. Everyone has a light that will stop gb's and charges. Everyone also has a dodge which depending on how fast your character is either allows you to easily gb a dodged enemy or just reset to neutral.

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Daily reminder that throwing all the following people listed off ledges is perfectly justified
>PK players
>Warlord players
>Orochi players
>Kensei players
>Nobushi's that run away
>Shoguki players
>conq players
>valk players
>Berserker's with mowhawks
>warden players
>people with naruto emblems
>people with anime emblems period
>people with tit emblems
>anyone in the viking faction
>people with orange stats
>players with red on their outfits
>players with blue on their outfits
>players that inch toward you once the round begins
>people that complain the chat that you threw them off a ledge
>people that parry your hits

literally all of these players are asking to be thrown off a ledge and deserve it

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Calling all Nobushi mains!
What are your hardest counters?
How do you deal with them?

>>171311917
It's entirely possible to learn the basics as PK, but most PK players don't. As >>171311425 said, a lot high rep PK players are really terrible at the game.

>>171312003
This is what I'm afraid of. Normally I wouldn't mind him playing what he wants, it's his decision, and his decision only, but I'd rather he didn't learn bad habits.

If he plays peacekeeper but learns how to feint/parry/deflect instead of light spamming then that's perfectly fine with me.

I'll do my best to teach him about actual game mechanics, but I'm still afraid of him picking up bad habits.

>>171312553
Im a high rep pk but never have any problems with pk mostly because I know most suck. I started the game as a warden and didnt switch until I realized warlord was fucking bullshit.

can we nerf valkyrie

>>171312695
Shes underpowered at high level play so most likely no.

>>171312764
>underpowered
:^)

>>171311051
You can explain to him that PK will teach him bad habits that won't translate at all into any of the other characters should he take an interest in them in the future, and that learning from getting your ass kicked is part of the experience that everybody goes through, especially if he's completely green.

If he's still adamant on playing PK because he actually likes the character itself and the way she plays, then by all means he's allowed to main her and have fun, but he shouldn't look into playing her solely because she's a crutch.

>>171311425
>Started out as PK, have her rep 8
>Then got Conq to rep 2
>Warlord to rep 4
>Now Shugoki to rep 1
I have no problem going back between them

Didn't the devs confirm a balance patch this week on the stream?

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>>171312695
>Having problems against valkyrie

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>tfw vikings are assholes

>>171312764
>high level play
heh
heheheheh
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>171313169
Full balance patch? No. Full balance patches would require us to download it ourselves. Server-side patches are for stuff like some bugsquashing and small number tweaks.

Is it better to play with a controller or kb+m ?

can we all agree that lawbringer should be classed as a heavy instead of a hybrid?

>>171313464
controller is more comfortable just get good at predicting GB though since its slightly harder to hit X than it is something on your mouse/keyboard

>>171313678
It's because i'm playing Nobushi, and i have lot of trouble doing the Hidden Stance with a controller, what do ?

>>171313302
In other words against players that can actually block

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>supposed to roll away from vortexing warden
>GB to a rolling opponent is untechable.

huh

>>171313464
It falls to personal preference, but KB+M is notable because it allows you to more finely change your guard with minimal effort. Also, it frees you up to have access to all your buttons, instead of having to take your thumb off the stick to guardbreak or dodge. It also helps that you can rebind your keyboard in-game, but not your controller yet.

On the other hand, controller lets you slow-walk, and the game seems almost built for controllers.

>>171313823
You can't GB someone who's rolling.

Peace keeper isn't a crutch unless your retarded. You just want more people to play law bringer and be shit and complain here because they never was good

>>171313568
Unfortunately that's not how it works.
Heavies are characterized by Superior Block, or being able to more easily stagger their opponents and trade hits. Conqueror and Warlord have it on their shields and shugoki gets ithe with Uninterruptible Stance. Lawbringer's specialty is range (he uses a polearm, or at least it SHOULD be range) and disabling his opponents with Stam economy. He's tough but is shit at blocking.

>>171313568
No, because Lawbringer doesn't have a shield like Conqueror. Lawbringer is a Vanguard/Heavy hybrid, Valkyrie is a Heavy/Assassin hybrid, and Nobushi is a Vanguard/Assassin hybrid. All three of them wield polearms and have unique mechanics to them.

>>171313928
t.PK

>>171313928
As someone with a rep 8 PK, she's pretty crutchy. You can win by spamming nothing but lights regularly, and her feats are insane
>Bleed + fear itself
You bleed the enemies entire health in one GB triple stab

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Why do people hate PKs (Honest players who just want to dodge rather than parry)
Vs Roaches (Scum of the earth who never want to lose at any cost)?

>>171314157
>Calls Roach scum
>Posts a webm of the scummiest bitch with lightning fast combos that hit like a truck

>>171314157
Because now that people have played the game for an extended time, they realize that Orochi is a decent but limited character whose players just all happen to be cowards, while Peacekeeper is both oppressive and difficult to catch.

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>>171313928
SILENCE PK SCUM

Fellow LAWMEN of /fhg/ come and view my honest and good LAWBRINGER webm!

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>>171313998
I am but like I said it only matter if the person playing her is retarded

>>171314031
I agree she trains retards but for people who know how to play she doesn't develop bad habits unless your stupid.
I would be higher but college.

>>171314157

Orochis are flase flagged

I hope the assholes on orochi go to the ninja

>>171314439
I'm about 1000 percent sure they will.

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>>171314439

This orochis are plagued with anime shitters

Orochi was given some ninja training and so far hes closest "ninja" we have now

When the real ninja comes orochis image might be saved

>>171314398
>she doesn't develop bad habits unless your stupid.
She has by far the crutchiest revenge in the game
>pop revenge
>zone zone zone
>Once they start blocking throw in random lights before going straight back to zone
Her attacks are too fast for someone to block all of them when she's nonstop canceling zone and going in random directions as well

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Whats this new hate on Lawbringers meme?

Don't people realize some think he's fun?

Sure its amusing somtimes to do well with a gimped character, but I don't use that as an excuse for when I do shitty.

>>171312148
>kensei players
but why

>>171314774
Im doubtful because the ninja class is going to use two kamas instead of superior nippon steel katana of 1000 folded times steel, sot he animu shitters will continue to roach

>>171315007
>implying kamas aren't even more weebtastic

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Is this new? Just sat in the standard 4-5min queue for elimination, and noticed a pop-up notification in the bottom left corner telling me that matchmaking was now "searching for all game types" or something similar

Has this always been there or is this a new doomsday/game is dead addition to matchmaking?

>>171315007

Chain Kamas are even worse

>>171314960
People are starting to push back because Lawbringer mains apparently keep playing the sympathy card, bitching and moaning about their character being weakest and how the struggle is real playing one when EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS THIS.

Basically, Lawbringer mains are starting to get annoying because they don't suffer in silence like the rest of us.

>>171314798
>playing 4v4 serious

I play all the other characters perfectly fine, I guess I'm just a rare breed

>>171315261
>suffer in silence like the rest of us
>like the rest of us
>rest of us
no other class is anywhere near as borked as THE LAW at the moment.

finally, the pony emote is released

unfortunately i did dump all my steel on it

>>171315457
Raider is pretty fucked.

Berserker is also awful, but arguably better.

>>171315261
Play some duels with Law and try not to get salty, I fucking dare you. If you want to stand any sort of chance you have to play like an absolute scumbag and turtle.

>>171315457
It also doesn't help that Lawbringer and Raider are the only two classes absolutely confirmed to get buffs with the next balance patch.

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>>171315076
this is what i thought of when i saw them. I guess they are different, but the guy has chains wrapped around his arms.


Would be interesting if:
>light attacks were close range
>can hold down heavy to wind it up like conq, but release for varying distances.

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>>171315261
>The rest of us
It is true that Lawbringer mains are becoming the new vegans in certain way but no other and I mean NO OTHER character is in such a situation.

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>>171314960
Because people are fed up with us lawbros asking for a minor buff or a way that makes I'm not have to rely purely on guard breaking an opponent to do any true damage

>Anyone who complains about a Lawbringer got massively outplayed and should feel ashamed if they blame anyone but themselves for failing at cgb

>>171315261
>>171315457
>>171315558
>Suffer in silence
I main law, but the other characters I'm most interested in are the raider and kensei. And I didn't even want to play the under dogs. Please say centurion won't fall into the underdogs class, I just want him to be balanced

>>171315261
>Law is the last one alive on enemy team in elimination
>He just grabs the speed boots and runs for two solid fucking minutes before we finally catch his ass and fuck the shit out of him
>"Whatever LB is really underpowered, had no choice!"
Insufferable cunts

>>171315502
>spend 7k on the heroic outfit
>spend 7k on impale
>spend 7k on pony
>spend 5k on "My thanks!"
>just realize I have spent at least 30k steel on the worst character in the game
>just realize I have spent hundreds of hours on the worst character in the game

>>171315736
>Couldn't think ahead and intercept or at least counter camp the speed boots

Anon, please, think for more than two seconds and you would have won sooner

It's the same as playing Dan. You get the my character is bad os

How do you deal with Raider heavy into stun feints?

>>171315880
I did
>Camp the speed boots
>He never comes to my side again, just runs around other shit and grabs the other pair that no one was guarding

>>171315937
You block them. Parry them, if you're feeling spicy.

>>171315926
Pretty much.

>>171315937
Block up no matter what? If he actually goes through with the heavy you still have enough time to realize that and block because it's so fucking slow

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Please don't play Kensei!

>>171315736
>generalizing

>>171316152
I don't get this meme

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>>171301274

>>171316234
>not PULL THE PLUG

>>171316012
>I camped them
So now that you have them, cut him off. You've got three people following him already, it's not like he's got a shoguki charge to clear you out of his way

>>171316396
doing it atm

>>171315753
>wanting the heroic outfit

what are you some kind of criminal?

impale, pony, and "My thanks!" are goat though

don't worry lawbro, we're getting buffs s-soon...
treat this like the hyperbolic time chamber

Quick, post a song you like and see if anyone can guess your main.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyOP1CXxryo

The prime reason Lawbringer players are hated is because of this

>Lose to a Lawbringer
>They gloat about it because you just got killed by factually the worst class

>Kill them
>They shrug it off and say it doesn't matter because they're the worst class, still probably call you shit

Remember Dan during the early days of Street Fighter IV? That's Lawbringer.

>>171316220
Kensei is one of the most favorably looked upon characters in the game, mostly because he fights super clean and is generally the most tolerable of the Samurai. Shitheads getting ahold of him and being salty ragequitters may start giving him a bad name.

>>171316565
Please don't play Kensei.

should i buy raider's gutbuster?

i like the idea of humiliating opponents by not only beating them with one of the worst characters, but doing so and then ruining their babymakers

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>when you get a successful >impale>wall>Blind justice finisher

>>171316416
Maps are pretty wide open, people can see you coming from far away to cut them off.

>>171316789
wait hol up
You can use blind justice after impaling someone?

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>>171316234
Oh yeah? Well get a load of THIS

>>171316913
No, he's just using the wrong term. It's just a normal top heavy

>>171316913
The wall part is important. The stagger is what let's you get it.

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CONTROLLER or MOUSE AND KEYBOARD?

>>171316913
Nah that guy is high.

Impale -> top heavy -> do nothing because no stamina

>>171317034
Damb, I got all excited. Light parries and exhausted parries are hard to get.

>>171317034
Oh

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>>171316935

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>>171317069
M&K is probably better for reaction times, unless you have a controller with programmable extra buttons. Easier feinting and dodging that way.

>>171317069
controller

>>171316835
>Wide open
Then maybe I'm just really good at cutting people off :/
Then again though, your teammates did seem to act pretty retarded, so I guess you have my condolences for that
>Teammates who single file feed themselves to 1v4 fights and never play the objective in dominion

>fighting another kensei parry all his attacks into gb and top heavg
>still lose cause whenever I attack from neutral he dodges and gets a dash attack and follow up light
>same goes for orochi
Starting to believe the "only shitters attack in this game" meme

>>171317167
Perfect.

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>>171317069
>>171317267

It's mainly up to preference.

M&K if you have a mouse with macro buttons on it and you can get it under control that you only move your mouse once and you don't try to move it back (I do this all the time so I use controller that I will get to)

Controller is the most popular way to play, and you can use programs like Steam (In Big Picture mode, look up tutorial on how to do it) to edit button binds, deadzones, and basically everything for the controller. If you have an Xbox Elite controller, it is better for mapping buttons, but it has no deadzone options and you should still use Steam big picture mode to make the deadzone as small as you can handle.

The image to the left shows my current deadzone settings. The whole circle is the normal deadzone settings (roughly half way pushed in any direction) and the small inner circle is what I currently have it set as. I move it even a millimeter and it will trigger that guard direction.

>>171314439
Orochis will have a schism when Ninja is realeased.
Many will switch over to finally fulfill their true ninja fantasy, while those who worship the katana and its superiority to all other swords will stay true to the way of the samurai.

>>171317716
Doesn't using big picture to change the deadzone fuck up everything after a while ?

>>171317872
It does cause your in game camera to rotate VERY quickly relative to what you would be used to, but it can be solved by lowering the in game comera sensitivity settings.

>>171317872
It fucked up my text chat. Couldn't chat or close chat once opened had to alt f4.

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>it's much fucking faster to just leave the match at the end, than tear through that fucking final score and aftermatch menu which take like 15-20 seconds.
Montreal's time efficiency.

>>171317371
>Then again though, your teammates did seem to act pretty retarded, so I guess you have my condolences for that
You have no idea how mad this game makes me over retarded teammates
>Up against the last guy in elimination
>Shugoki on my team is pulling MUH HONOR and just watching the fight
>Enemy gets revenge
>Shugoki could easily bear hug them and save me
>Instead just watches me get executed
This shit infuriates me

>>171317936
Don't you also have the steam controllers icons ?
SInce when have you been using this ? I tried to do it but after one game my buttons started doing crazy shits like heavy attacks on lock-on and guard not working

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>>171317167

>>171317267
I'd give this controller a try, but it's fucking expensive and the reviews on amazon aren't that great at all.
Maybe one day. I'm thinking of getting the scorpio if it looks good and at a decent price, hopefully they'll bundle these with it

>>171318038
Oh sorry, I really should make a proper guide on how to set it up. You can load a base configuration called "Gamepad" then edit that configuration to what you want and it will keep all the normal controller buttons. I can make an actual video on how to do it quick if you'd like.

>>171316234
>>171316935
>>171317167
>>171318090
This is good content

>>171317167
If you're going for full romanization, it's
>PURU ZA PURAGGO

>>171317034
>>171317064
>>171317137
>>171317145
Sorry guys. I meant to say Swift Justice finisher.

Impale to wall>top heavy>side light>topheavy>light

>>171318146
I would greatly appreciate it since everything i've done so far ended up in an apocalypse in game

>>171304519
Valk and Nobu

I just want to bring the law to the pagans

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>characters whos heavys have the same animations as their lights.
>characters who have obscenely long start ups on heavys to where its impossible to parry them.

I'm so used to how hilariously broken peacekeeeer valk and zerkers lights are that I can't parry shugoki warlord and kensei.

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>>171318090

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>>171318637
>People who can somehow parry your second move every time, no matter the direction or whether it's light or heavy

Is there anything that people don't complain about when they lose? I had someone crying about smoke bomb

>>171318637
>used to fighting people who are good and never do heavies
>come up against a scrub who does raw heavies often
>can't parry them and get hit and lose

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>>171318637
>Be Peacekeeper
>Keep facing Wardens who can perfectly parry every single one of my light attacks

>>171318258
https://youtu.be/M8Clj8mrEj0
For you to share

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post rep

rate others

ill start
>rep 4 LAW
>rep 2 Warden
>rep 1 Warlord
>rep 1 Kensei

>>171317964
>enemy pk runs around and ganks
>she's the last one alive and my teammates just stand around and let her duel me

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>>171318820
Behold... MY TRUE POWERS

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>>171319554
Please don't play Kensei

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>>171319837
This... i can't !

>>171319530
You're the true mvp thanks

>top 5 character player
>complains about LB using guard breaks

I just can't anymore.

>>171319930
there's never gonna be anymore lewdfics and i will never see femroach get fucked over and over and it makes me really sad

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>>171319930

>2v2
>fighting a lawman
>almost killing him
>enemy pk runs up to me and executes me
>it turns into a proper 2v2
>their entire tactic is get the impale with the lawman and pk throws her lights
>my teammate is shugi
>anytime they try doing anything shugi hugs them or full charges heavy

>round 2
>wallkick pk
>top heavy + full charged shugi heavy
>instakills the pk

they chose the wrong people to be faggots to

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>>171320331
>/fhg/ threw away its best damn meme

I'm still mad.

>>171319554
>Rep 11 Lawbringer
>Rep 4 Conqueror
>Rep 1 Peacekeeper
>Rep 1 Warden

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>get 5 takedowns in brawl for a contract
>oops servers died no contract for you

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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club

>>171320543
>/fhg/ resisted namefag garbage to focus on the game and not reduce to endless meme circlejerking
Proud of you, most generals fall apart because of faggots like that.

>>171318469
Parries on a Nobu as The Law are super good. Quick Riposte closes any distance between the two of you, and parries on her lights give you huge punish.

>>171320543
That would make a great shirt

>>171319530
Would changing the deadzone shape from cross to circle be better ? Especially for Nobushi hidden stance

>win a round
>screen fades to black
>stays black
>...
>"TIME IS RUNNING OUT"
>still black
Why does Ubisoft insist on making garbage

A developer sayS "let's make a good game"
Head honcho says "NO WE MAKE DOO DOO"

>>171320862
Honestly? I have absolutely no idea. I never change the deadzone shape but I would assume it would be better

>>171320686
>most generals fall apart because of OC

>>171320928
No, most generals fall apart because of attention whores trying to make inclusive little memes.

>>171320910
Why do big publishers rush releases?
Because they want stuff released before the fiscal year ends.

>>171316532
But its kind of true. The only way you can die to a lawbringer is if you fuck up. They have absolutely no way to initiate any sort of offense.

>>171318990
This is what fucks me up about chains. Nothing is guaranteed, and you can get fucked up at any point during your chain. No chain is ever a true combo.

>>171321034
No it's because the head of ubisoft put his down syndrome son in charge after he died and he INSISTS on making macaroni paintings instead of programming

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Post mains, mayne.

>>171320686
>>171320928
>Knight Discord has only gotten better because of them, to the point where the idea of it being a Reddit Discord is laughable since it more closely resembles /pol/-lite
>The words fag, nigger, queer etc. being thrown around like candy and not a single mod cares

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>>171321231

>>171320291
>always go to the farthest capture point from my spawn in dominion
>playing dominion on the citadel gate map
>on defenders team
>2 LBs on the enemy team
>one camps point C
>other stays close just in case he needs help

Holy shit, I got ledged so much I almost had to conplain.

>>171320776
I parried a nobu's light once as a law and she stil managed to parry the ad mortem.

I don't get it, maybe I just didn't activate it soon enough.

>>171304519

valk always wrecks me. Can someone give me tips? I usually play Shug or Kensei but i get raped most times with everyone vs Valk.

The light attacks she does are super fast and I think she gets a guaranteed hit after the 1st? I try to block but cant, but i can block peacekeeper lights without as much problem. Then she does that damn sweep move and even if i try to dodge i get hit, maybe im just not doing the dodge timing right or right direction? Then she gets that fucking overhead heavy and thats when i rage and fuck up even harder.

Someone help my shitter self out. I should prob study her moveset too.

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>>171320928

OC is

meme tracers,photo shop/paint images,screen caps,REGULAR pictures, and REGULAR fanfics

OC is not

Porn, or fapfics

>>171320498
You win.. this time...

>>171301635

I'd be fine with more Soul Calibur in my For Honor. Also, best Xianghua outfit is best.

>>171321562
Says who? That's a new fucking rule to me.