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Fanfare: Chuck Coco&Mimi edition

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Cerb'd: >>171223184
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Play Havencraft.
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Hear the dragons roar
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You're retarded if you think Jungle Warden is actually better than Albert
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This thread needs more testosterone.
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>>171247028
I already do
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12537776

http://www.strawpoll.me/12537758
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>>171247028
Give me a bunny leader and I will.
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>>171246898
my wife's sister can't be this cute!
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FAVARO
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>>171247056
This card looks pretty good
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>>171247028
Tell Cygames to release the Banchou Eris skin and I will.
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Ouroboros
0pp
Enhance X - Becomes X/X
Can't be attacked by enemy followers
X/X - X+2/X+2

Y/N?
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Shadow needs more dogs, if Sword can be Maidcraft then we should have Dogcraft.
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>>171246898
Rahab + ambush

HEAR
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>>171247028
But I do, shes my wife after all.
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>>171247056
>>171247220
Literally why, WHY ever play this over a 3/7 ward for the same cost?
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>literally a powercreeped genesis dragon
>literally a better enhanced Albert
FOREST ISN'T THE PET CLASS THEY SAID
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>>171247056
>turn 1 pass
>turn 2 pass
>turn 3 pass
>turn 4 rahab
>turn 5 pass
>turn 6 pass
>turn 7 pass
>turn 8 20/5 OTK
There is your wincon dragonbros
Just need to have your opponent brick REALLY hard
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Fafnir > Bahamut
Genesis Dragon > Jungle Warden

Is Dragon the most cucked class?
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>>171247028
>>171247256
Eris was a slut in her early years what a shame
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>>171247278
you play both you tard, this can be played directly after a turn 2 oracle or on curve to cuck aggro
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>>171247278
>3/7 ward for the same cost
huh?
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Your opponent plays this curve:

1 - quickblader
2 - Maid Leader
3 - Novice Tropper
4 - Jeno
5. Albert
6. Alwida
7. Albert
8. Cyclone Blade your wards
9. Albert

How the fuck do you win?
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>>171247291
Does the ability give storm to both the jungle wardens or the one that is summoned?
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>>171247071
t.Forest main
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>>171247278
it costs 1 less
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>>171247278
>same cost
>4 pp rahab
>5 pp goblinmount
>same cost
It's going to replace grim reaper which some fucbois run
Grim reaper is shit and this is slightly less shit so it'll see play
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>>171247291
>Better enhanced Albert
It is 1 more mana. You get what you pay for.
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>>171247278
4 = 5
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>>171247243
Still dies to Khawy :^)
>>171247278
>same cost
Get your eyes checked.
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>>171247332

Orb Dragon > Odin
Dragon's Nest > Dingdong

It's bullshit and you know it.
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>>171247404
>>171247514
>>171247491
>>171247464
>>171247459
>>171247382
Easiest (You)'s of my life.

Just kidding, I'm actually a retard. I still think it's a bad card though.
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>>171247470
>you get what you pay for
>gold card compared to swords best legendary
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>>171247420
Themis
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Has it been announced if we're getting any new prebuilt decks for ROB once Tempest launches?
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>>171247056
This is worthless.
If you play it at the earliest when you have 4pp then it's effect does nothing because you don't have any pp after playing it. You'd need two turns for it to gain any attack. If you play it when you have more PP then it means your opponent also has more PP and thus access to their removals.
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>>171247028
What does Eris' groin smell like?
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post good cards that people no longer play.
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>>171247420
triple may (double is enough) into ae
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>>171247683
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>>171247602
>I still think it's a bad card though.
You are ACTUALLY a retard, then.
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>>171247310
>turn 1 egg
>turn 2 egg, egg
>turn 3 pass
>turn 4 rahab
>turn 5 pass
>turn 6 pass
>turn 7 pass, Heal from eggs PROFIT
>turn 8 20/5 OTK
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>>171247683
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>>171247420
1 Insight
2 Insight x2
3 Clarked
4 Vomit my hand and play Daria ;)
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>>171247625
What are the chances Cygames sells a prebuilt JO Dragon deck? Who here would buy it?
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>>171247745
I still play him
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>>171247757
Dragon will surely dominate the meta with such power plays
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>>171247754
>Just kidding, I'm actually a retard.
I literally just said that. Learn to read, maybe?
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>imperial dragoon is probably one of the coolest looking cards
>it's shit
Gotta love this ongoing meme.
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>>171247602
>on curve stats
>ward with a lot of health
>bad
The attack bonus effect is irrelevant. This is a great tool for Dragon to stop aggro.
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>>171247680
Most likely the same as any other female in her mid to late 20's or early 30's
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>>171247893
That is pretty much a lot of the dragon cards, like dragonsong flute.
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>mfw no Dragon missions
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>>171247745
>opponent plays lord of the flies
>gets the 2/3
>my baha kills him next turn
Should've jumped on the khawy train like all the other shadownerds

He'd be amazing if you could choose which insect you want to summon
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>>171247876
That's why I used those exact words.
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>>171247791
Day one, no questions asked. It'd be even spicier if they added some discard synergies.
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UTE!
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>Still no Dragon legendary
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>>171247745

>Lord of RNG

no thanks
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93690
no concede~
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>>171248090
if she loses her pantyhose on evo im literally sudoku myself on strim
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how is cudgel priest balanced? dragon warrior is already strong and he is strictly worse
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>>171247754
It's a bad card, you stupid
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>>171247421
"All"
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>>171248090
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Does anyone have the picture of Wolverine missing Otohime?
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>>171248097
>Dragon legendary comes out
>10 pp spell
>HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR!
>Lose the game
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>>171248237
Right here blind guy >>171247758
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>>171247108
>people vote Vania(Vampy) because xD she's a vampire and periods are bloody!!!

shit voters who dont even account for character personalities
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>>171248184
Say they have a 5/7 Albert, Dragon warrior can trade 1-1, Cudgel can't.
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>>171248218
delete this
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>>171248034
>>171248034
>not dropping khawy after bahamut

The fuck?
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>>171248090
Cannon is the card I want to be good more than anything but its going to be unplayable. Literally turn 5 do nothing.
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>>171248057
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>>171248198
Many people have already ellaborated on why it is good. Your dumb post with no arguments just makes me thing you are the stupid here.
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>>171247004
Other cards were nerfed before foest deck were. CF and cursed soldier.

Speaking of forest nerfs, they were completely unjustified. Every other late game deck was running shit like lucifer and satan as their win conditions. Obviously random shit thrown in would be useless against a deck well constructed around it's win condition. They didn't even nerf the "problem" just the core cards that every forest deck would run. Just imagine fucking aggro blood getting nerfed and having vampy cost 4 mana and imp lancer costing 8 mana because banner swords struggled against yurius.
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>>171247683
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>>171248147
Someone pls halp
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>>171248184

L E V I
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>>171248169
This is what they used for her evolved art.
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>>171247203
hyped for dark jean d'arc because she was so badass in that
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>>171248260
>10pp
That's way too late.
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>>171246638
And that you have to play 2. So basically you end up having to play 2 mediocre worse cards because otherwise you get removaled into dust

>>171246639
>Hand clogs
>Play a 2 drop and buff last turns 2 drop
Gonna be aids.

>>171246681
No, because it's basically a you drew oracle only card. He can't be emissary'd, If you cavalier him, there's little to no pp left to do anything with him so he's just a dingdong that doesn't draw for all intents and purposes, outside of t3 he has to be evo'd or they have to have used all of theirs or he'll be obliterated like angelic shield maiden's shitty 2/6 is. And this is on top of the eternal conundrum of if you don't play 2 or more removal/evo trade/rush trade/storm trade or die cards a turn, you just get removal'd to oblivion. Single thick cards don't last t. 6pp Inferno dragon/4pp lightning behemoth. You might get some use out of him with shapeshifting mage

At best, he's a pressure card in flute decks so you're not as obligated to kill yourself flooding the board right into a board clear. Or in wyrm spire to act as a cover while you drop 1-2 cheap cards as a substitute play letting you build up a dragon board while pressuring without mulching your hand into board clears to do it.

>>171246842
>When the 2/1 snowman turns into a 16/1 snowman next turn
[Autistic Shrieking]

>>171247656
It's enough to kill and survive offensive 3 drops and defensive don't really get anywhere

>>171247278
You can't emissary hippocampus and ramp for t3, 4pp
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>>171247791
Only if it's animated and come with the new neutral wind god grimr
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>>171248449
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>>171248438
Nah, i still see this in play, tho
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Dragon lego when
Tempo dragon is gonna be a thing
Just need a good lego
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Rahab is better than Grim Reaper
Hippocampus is worse than Goblinmount
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>>171247421
All allied not all other so yes.

>>171247101
>Running over my deck lists
>Found an animated admiral I missed
>Angry blue man will now be the last thing people see from my memer list
Feels good.
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>>171248358
It's not that bad against control decks, I'd think.
You lose out on a turn but get a lot of value until they bahamut/odin it.
>T4 Gawain
>T5 Cannon
>T6 Roland/Frontguard
If you are lucky enough you can easily clear their followers with just an evo then.

But we will have to see what the meta turns out to be and if it will slow down enough to see Cannon being played.
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>>171248449
>>171248147
>>171248565
Thanks, anons
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>>171248676
I wanna support those cannons
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>>171239639
It's not gross, it's realistic. People in a feudal fantasy world won't have any actual reason or way to shave their armpits. Armpit hair would just be a normal, everyday thing for them
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>>171248631
Hippocampous is only might be played for the evolve effect
The pure temp gain might be enough
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>Play Blood Moon
>Play Righteous Devil
>Play that new 5pp blimp
>Suddenly 2 Wolves/Yurius/Imp Wards
>Take no damage from Wolf/Imp fanfare, assuming fanfares doesn't trigger
Did anyone discuss this yet?
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>dragons new mechanic is minions that buff themselves every turn
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>>171248373
>Many people have already ellaborated on why it is good

That's the same as saying "multiple reliable sources said", literally fake news
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>>171248773
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>>171248481
>if Overflow is active for you
fuck you, my sides hurt now
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>conjuring force
>summon snowman
>d shift
Amazing in how many ways rune can kill you, if you give them 3 turns in a row
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>>171248565
Story of my life until dailies come in.
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>>171248773
but you need the ward for ramp, which demon is better at, and if you're aggro he bricks your emissary draws since forte and seabrand are just better.
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What's a newb friendly Forest archetype that doesn't require six gorillion vials?
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>>171248804
Playing an amulet on turn 3 is too slow for aggro blood
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>>171248827
More like minions that are low cost but get stronger for unspebt PP
So baiscally, anti discard synergy that will probably see play
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>>171249023
holy fuck, that art
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>>171248938
PtP
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>>171248345
Are you not entertained?
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>>171248927
New deck types can happen
>>171248857
>dies to removal
Same goes for goblin mount
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>>171247420
may
may water sprite
soccer mom
princess
tia
cynthia/fairy beast
tia
roach'd, fairy beast, or bounce the tia up and down
Soccer mom lionel+tokens
Lily bahamut or what the fuck ever
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>>171249023
Chaos Ship was better. Oh well.
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>>171249107
>PtP
>Newbie friendly
Good joke
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>>171248938
Every single forest decks still require the minimum of 3 leggos and 3 golds.
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>>171249146
>New deck types can happen
yea it might be the card Egg Dragon needs to get off the ground
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>>171248770
>realistic
>fantasy

I guess that's why most males are clean shaven too.
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>>171249023

>Chaos Ship
>Dark AirJammer

Well, either name is super metal as fuck, so I'm okay with the name change.
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>>171248927
New deck types can happen
>>171248857
>dies to removal
Not an argument
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>>171249023
Dunno if it's actually better than feena
Needs some testing, but might be spicy if you have vengeance
Floods the board and improves your later draws

Maybe midrange blood might become a thing now that they have that new amulet
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>>171247683
It hurts to live when you compare it and nep. Kikegames was a mistake

>>171247893
It's actually a pretty good closer. It gives good reach and clears the way. You also have at least 12 draw from meta cards and there's more draw/hand neutral cards
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>>171249023
Since summon doesn't trigger fanfare, could it be used to summon spiderweb imp or blood wolf without damaging the leader?
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>>171249178
How will 3 of these work with Seraph?
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>>171249178

>can't put a skeleton in to reference Nocturne because then Haven would be bogarting on Shadow's archetype

A shame indeed.
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>>171249249
God fuckong dammit i fucking hate phone posting so fucking much fuck
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>>171249023
>T9 Dark General evo + Blimp
if you get two wolves that's a blood Alberto
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>>171249205
>I guess that's why most males are clean shaven too.

That can be put down to genetics.
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>>171249336
It says "when you play" so only the first form gets reduced
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>>171249336
The other last word forms are not "played"
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>>171249178
Might see play in seraph as it saves you an activator and makes death sentence insane
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>>171249323
>inferno dragon
>good card
There was never a time this card was good, except arena.
Also why would you ever think to compare a bronze basic with a legendary
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If you could be any card, which card would you be and what would you do?
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>>171249326
Yes
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>>171249326
Yes, that's the idea.
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>>171248987
This exists too though
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>>171248872
>queue into rune chick
>they very slowly play spells on turn 8 or whatever
>turn timer about to end
>play another shift
>flood board
>waiting for the timer again
>d shift again
>timer
>they concede because with my popped amulets I have lethal and they have no removal or evo points

Why do people playing dimension shift rope so fucking much why can't people quickly count lethal I swear to god I'm having Freeze Mage PTSD
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>>171249178
>Death Sentence becomes: Kill 2 minions
WEW
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>>171249462
I'd be Dire Bond and I'd fuck the two blonde girls with me
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>>171249462
Fafnir
Kill myself
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>>171249462
Be Cerb and fuck my boyfriend Fenrir.
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>>171249462
Bahamut
Rebirth and Destruction
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>>171249529
This guy gets it
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>>171249556
>>171249565
:thinking:
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>>171249565
>This shit again.
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>>171249462
Garuda.
I would like to be a flying monster so i would cry alone in the skies.
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>>171248358
It's fine if you substitute it for Arthurian light in an ironwrought-light deck. Tech a couple extra follower generators since arthur isn't guaranteeing a knight anymore and enjoy cleariing the board while hitting for huge face. It's more reactive than arthur's storm but you'll still be filling your board reliably forcing them to board clear or evo multi-trade or die until their hand gives out from the value.

>>171248773
It really wont. See: Leviathan Lightning behemoth and goblinmount. It's a rarity that they do shit beyond evo into something.
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>>171249372

Now you have done it.
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>>171249462
The beast in Beast Dominator
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>>171249462
Otohime.
Have an orgy with all the little guards.
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>>171249462
I'd be Feena and I'd evolve so I could get free goblin pussy
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>>171249462

Putting soul into the title/name with a verb automatically makes it cool
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>>171249529
>girls
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>>171249023
Quick someone name every good bloodcraft 2 drop
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>>171249023
>or less
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>>171249462
become roach and have sex with arisa
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>>171249837
Only only have 2pp drops
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>>171249529
Is the art work some RoB character? Name of the semen demon?
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>>171249023
Would it be worth giving up all 1 drops in order to get this card to have consistency?
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>>171247291
you are literally retarded

albert hits face for 3 -> 5 with storm since turn 5 onwards
this card is just a ward before turn 10 with no storm

albert hits face for 6 -> 10 on turn 9
this card is just a ward on turn 9 and hits face for 8 -> 10 on turn 10

albert on turn 9 also can trade for free without being damaged, this card can't
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>>171249845
They learnt from goblin mage
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>>171249920
Hell no
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>>171249462
>>171249694 this, or be one of those alchemist cards.
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>>171249462
Mordecai shit posting for enternity
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>>171249326
You could also summon Unica, aka forcing your opponent to either take out the evo'd blimp or dealing with Unica's heals.
Though Ancient Lion Spirit and JustThermisBro is a counter to this
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>>171249837
Vania
Yurius
Blood Wolf
Spiderweb
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>>171249684

>Mordecai verus Matador
>Mordecai can't die
>Matador can't get hit

Duels truly have no end.
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>>171249837
unica, imp, sweetfang, yurius, vampy, wolf, the new one that doesn't let you target followers other than itself.

i like that baphomet is a 2 drop because it discourages decks from wanting to run it and ship at the same time.
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>>171249920
Probably
This would be its own deck, drop the wraiths and cursebrands, pull wolves, vanias,that prick all the time
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>>171249963
>Have Candelabra of Prayers on board
>Just Death Sentence it bro
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>>171248827
>>171248987
>>171249146
>>171249249
They can't even keep a minion alive beyond its turn unless it's some loser super offensive deck that only has 3 hard removal. Any time there's actual pp that would matter, they're playing khawy/nep/alucard/alwida and other shit that's going to fuck you up. Who gives a shit. it's basically a subtract 1 removal from opponents hand, increment the turncount by 1, and flip a coin to see if their evo/storm survived hitting you
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>>171247420
ambling wraith, yurius, veight, vampy + summon bloodkin, some burn stuff/imp lancer to finish him off around turn 6
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New leaders when?
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>>171249462
Anne so I can fuck Grea.
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>>171250167
>Not being Grea so you could fuck Anne
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>>171249023
cool, so it were the blood airships in the trailer

i <3 airships, they are so adorable
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>>171249023
>random follower
>can summon neutral followers too
>summon two Owlcats
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>>171250167
>>171250225
Both are clearly the best 2 options.
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>>171250225
He can be Anne and you can be Grea.
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>>171249462
Bloody Mary or Midnight Vampire. Comfy luxurious baths.
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>>171249462
Veight. For obviou/ss/ reasons.
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>>171250261
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>>171250167
>>171250225
Well Grea is the top and Anne is bottom so it depends on which you prefer.
Also Grea is more likely to be able to grow a dick
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>open the twitter links
>check replies
Shadowtards will never die, will they?
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>>171250468
>not fucking Anne with DORAGON TAILRU
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>>171250468
Anne can grow a dick too by alchemy
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>>171249802

"Soul Cuck"

I don't think it's working
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The question for Dragon isn't "How will he ever recover?". It's "WILL he ever recover?"
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>>171249904
Fallen Queen Seraph
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/d/%8e%cc%8e%ab%8e%b0%8e%d9%8e%dd%8e%b8%8e%b2%8e%b0%8e%dd%8e%be%8e%d7%8e%cc%20%28%8e%da%8e%bc%8e%de%8e%aa%8e%dd%8e%c4%8e%de%29
This page is in the pastebin and is quite useful.
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>>171250595
I want her to have a gay relationship with moon bun
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>>171250610

It's still better than being a regular cuck.
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>>171249462

see, what can you get - a some kind of immortality or agelessness, right? also killing abilities are mostly useless irl while healing ones are pretty useful. finally you probably want to have some degree of freedom instead of obeying somebody like most of the angel cards seem to do

so, by the pure logic the best candidate to be imo it's temptress vampire

i hope you won't think bad of me, it's all purely for the maximum benefit
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>>171250595
WHY THE FUCK DOES IT HAVE WARD
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>>171250595
I want to corrupt her
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>>171250595
>They made roland into a girl
Japan why must you ruin the name of the greatest knight of the holy roman empire?
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>>171250635
They tried to make me go to rehab,but I said,
"No, no, no"
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>>171250737
>Sword
>Not having Ward, Rush or Storm
??????????
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>>171250737
to justify turn 7 do nothing
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>>171250635
>he doesn't wanna charge up his JO crystals, ramp and let his rahabs grow
You'll never be a real dragon
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>>171250595

>powercreeped sarissa
>won't even clog your board with multiple amulets

PET CLASS. ERIKA IS A TEACHER'S PET!
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>>171250765
CONTROL SWORD HAS REACH A NEW LEVEL OF UNBREAKBLE
PRAISE CHARLEMANGE
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>>171250737
Just Bahamut Bro
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>>171250595
>>171250765

"That glimmer of hope you see, that's me."

Full Commander Deck!
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>>171250765
100% Odin bait
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>>171249407
>>171249430
Will the new grail 8pp automatically reduce by 3 though? Crazy if so.
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>>171250775
Same reason SV's Belphegor isn't sitting on a toilet.
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>>171250936
So? It's not Sword's win con, like Seraph or Mordecai, and Odin doesn't clear the 4/5 Ward.
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>>171250936
>you must waist an odin so you don't get raped
>then they bust out the big guys
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>>171250943
Yes
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>>171250564
Yeah but it'd be a human dick, Grea has a dragon's dick
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>>171250775
it's deep!~ it's an allusion to virginia woolf!

i mean there is a pretty known classic modernist novel "orlando", it's about a guy who later became a girl, orlando is a version of roland after all
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>>171251021
I still wish they would make an SMT digital (get it?) card game where you can fuse monster cards
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>>171251075
that is very reasonable anon
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>>171250737
I just noticed that. Because of Durandal it can't even be destroyed by a big follower and will force 2 trades.
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>new forest lego
>elder tree
>5 mana
>2/1 - 4/3
>fanfare: put 2 natures guidance in your hand and make them cost 0
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>>171251021
They fucked up with Belphegor
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>>171248478
good good
>>171248676
mother of bahamut now thats a good rear, plus she s using split line pantyhose, literally muh duck
who is she anyway? sv card fucking when?
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Is there a pure amulet Haven deck that use summoning like Devourer of Heaven with Seraph as a secondary wincon?
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>>171250936

>odin
>not "angry 10PP dragon noise"

For something Incorruptible, it sure breaks easy enough.
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>>171251075
>Grea has a dragon's dick
a forked one?

>>171247056
they literally named a card "rehab"?
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>>171250765
>give Sword this
>give Forest 8 burst damage split between two 4 attack bodies
>people still think Sword is the petclass
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>>171251084
Not the roland we all know and love
Not the roland who held back an entire army of saxtons by himself
Not the roland who was gifted the holiest blade possible
#notmyroland
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>when you don't even have lethal but they panicked after the combo
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>>171249845
Control blood doesn't use 1pp drop usually. Midrange maybe. My cblood only has yulius and unica so its pretty good.
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>everyone is dissing Rahab

Just you wait. Dragon is going to get a 10PP DShift when Overflow is active. Enjoy getting smacked by a 12/5 dragon.
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>>171251220
>Bahamut on turn 7

inb4
>Ramp
KEK
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>>171251310
oh, come on, it's better than what japs have done to astolpho

at least this roland is physically a girl
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someone post insane rowen
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>>171251358
>2 autist being autist
>Everyone
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>>171251235
>a forked one?
No, google lizard dicks, those fuckers actually have two dicks so they can keep fucking when the first dick starts going limp
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Can we discuss all the situational cards blood has that just got significantly better thanks to blood moon?

>can curve straight into labyrinth
>then curve into Dark Airjammer
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Draw == Win in ranked apparently.

Didn't think I'd see a suicide blood.
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>>171251425

>not having oracle and fervor in hand every time you play dragon

Git gud.
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Is Urias out of the ICU yet?
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>>171251310
I'd rather have all male characters turned into girls and being drawn by nips than have them stay male and get drawn by western artists.
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Is there any better feeling then queueing into rune and thinking you're in for a nightmare of Daria bullshittery that you have almost no chance of winning against, only to realize it's dshift and you can just casually collect your free win?

Why do people even play a deck that just autoloses against anyone with even the vague appearance of a curve? At least meme decks are fun.

It honestly baffles me how I continually get 4 or 5 free wins a night running up against Dshift decks that literally never win against me, and could never win against 70% of the ladder. God, my deck isn't even aggro. What the fuck do Dshitters do against actually fast decks like Unga shadow, aggro blood, or storm sword?

That is, Dshift is an extraordinarily specialized anti-control deck that is total garbage in every other situation. Why on Earth would anyone, anywhere, of any mental capacity, queue into a ranked ladder that is ~70% tempo or aggro with it?

Not that I'm complaining, the free wins are nice.
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>>171251358
The people shitting on Rahab are complete retards that don't understand that it fills a hole Dragon has always had.
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What's the last forest legendary?
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>>171251535
mormo can be used now for board flood
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dark airjammer artwork looks rad as fuck
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>>171251538
If the opponent does on their turn they lose
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>>171251452
>astolpho
Oh god please no
I suppressed those memeroies for a reason(actually pretty historiclly accurate)
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>>171251692
Go ahead and explain, cause all I'm seeing is a better t3 play when I get oracle.
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>t5 do nothing
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>>171251676
Because you are on A and people can't build or pilot DShift properly. On Masters I lose to DShift players even as aggro, and it's not even that uncommon.
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>>171251676
>70% aggro
Not in AA3 or master. Bunch of control decks to counter aggro, that's where dshift comes in. Won 4 in a row with dshift recently so thats not true.
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>>171251220
>Playing Baha on turn 8
Unless you are Dragon but you would concede to Sword on turn 5 already
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>>171251724
damn, took me a while to notice it
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>unfavorable matchup
>lose

Glad to know the greatest factor in the outcome of these games is skill.

Zzzzzz.
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>>171251795
dies*
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>>171251310
>Not the roland who held back an entire army of saxtons

dem saxons, we all hate them

iirc in the poem he fought muslims though
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>>171251813
That's precisely the point. One of Dragon's big weaknesses is being killed by aggro early on, and Imprisoned Dragon's 3 defense is too easy to break through, and they often have no good 4 drops to play after ramping with Oracle. This will become a staple in Ramp Dragon
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>>171251170
spells attached to minions are usually unplayable spells, like Woodkin Curse. 4/10 try again
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>>171251885
Tech to better handle your bad matchups or accept it
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>>171247291
Forest is a dogshit class with no direction now. Roach was the only consistent deck that craft had and now it's just a pachinko machine.
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>>171251885
Don't forget about the matchups that are decided completely by who goes first.
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>>171252020
Love forest spirit so much. Hand neutral. 3pp remove anything with a board fairy. Baits removal or trades often well or enables a fairy/may kill
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>>171252097
>HE HASN'T HEARD OF SILVER WOLF
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>>171252010
Rehab is 4pp? Holy fuck this card is fucking awesome.

If anyone played with dragon seriously you should know how easy this card will fit in all non-meme dragon decks.
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>>171252097
why are you talking like me
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>>171252205
>non-meme dragon decks
?
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32475
Can I have a concede please? Emote thrice if you need one back.
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>>171251813
Tell me of a better 4pp play for Dragon that doesn't cost an evolve or set up and that actually helps their match up against aggro. You can't.
Also, it's a 5 health Ward, so the opponent is forced to evolve a 3 attack follower to deal with it, they can't use their traditionally strong evolve followers, because they only have 4 attack evolved, or are forced to spend a Dragon Warrior burn/Crimson Sorcery just for that additional 1 damage.
Not to mention that a 2/5 Ward on turn 3, against aggro, has almost the same effect as a 4/5 Ancient Elf. The amount of attack is not what fucks aggro over, the amount of trading they have to do to get rid of it does. The fact that aggro normally doesn't have followers with more than 3 health that early doesn't help them either.
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>>171252097
Just tempo bro
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>>171252205
It's mediocre at best
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>>171252021
Teching to improve your bad matchups will inevitably decrease your odds against your other matchups. You're just shifting around the probability, the chances of losing are still the same.
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>>171252189
Silver meme sucks. Daria, Dshift, """""""midrange"""""" sword and even Seraph are more consistent. Cygames done fucked up with the Gobu nerf and Daria is still cancer post PR nerf. I'm mad as hell because Forest was the craft I started with and they made me switch on that dreadful day.
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>>171252097
This is why I hate forestfags. If your shit isn't beyond broken you won't play it. Forest is just fucking fine I lose to it just as much as other decks.
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>>171252205
It's good even in "meme" decks. Wildfang can win against control deck without a problem usually unless they brick by having all 3 alter fate or not getting any. 1pp egg is good too.
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>>171251535
6 face damage T4 with Dark Gen
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>>171252398
>made me switch

Did cygames put a gun to your head?
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>>171252379
That's only true if you the amount of times you play against your bad match ups and against your good match ups is about the same, what we all know is not true.
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>>171252582
don't reply him
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Is it okay to replace olivia/lucifer for a satan into my pendant meme deck?
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>>171252436
I'm a forestfag no longer. You made me do this, cuckgames. You could have love tapped roach but instead ya killed it. Print more Isabelle ads why don'tcha. Whatever. With this next expansion, Forest will rise and cuck all other crafts with based Tarzan.
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>>171252562
Dark general was always decent but thats just evil
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>>171252398
>he thought gobu was fine
The ability to fetch roach was too fucking strong and needed to be put down
that and forest is not in a bad place
Silver has one of the highest winrates of any deck
Roach still exist
Tempo still exist
Next expac pushs control forest hard
You just need to actually try decks and get good
Not everything is so mind numingly easy as daria
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>>171252732
Astaroth is a one card OTK with Pendant up. You have no reason not to do it.
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>>171252587
Yeah, but then you're just relying on the probability of the decks you'll be facing being what you predicted. Guess I just long for my days in MTG, where you actually teched in response to your opponent instead to a random guess at what you'll be facing. Best of 3 with sideboard mode when?
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>>171252917
A tournament mode would be great
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>>171252278
Plz Hlp
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>>171252867
>Silver has one of the highest winrates of any deck
You mean on that gook site where they report it as roach or something else when they beat it before the wolf or bolt even come out but report it as a win for that once the game gets to that stage? We've been over this, shadowlog and all those sites are at best guidelines and pure numbers mean jack shit unless we have the full picture or sit down and analyze them.
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>>171252867
>Silver has one of the highest winrates of any deck
It's not a bad deck, but that winrate is inflated.

>>171252917
Never happening, they want matches in this game to be short, this is why they keep adding stuff that ends the game at max at turn 12.
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REMOVE THIS, BITCH!
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>>171253060
Thanks Mr. Skeltal
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>>171252917
I am looking at running a tournament(s) for this game which would run in BO3 format. If there was a way to sideboard cards, it would be a 10 card sideboard.
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>>171252582
>Bandwagon shitter fled like a cockroach when the light comes on after his free wins were gone
Disgusting
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>>171252398
I've been doing pretty good with Wolfbolt myself in A3, probably have like a 70% winrate with it. Can beat sword, rune, durgen, even other forest.

You have to change the way you play as opposed to aggro roach. I've won dealing 2 damage with a roach turn 3 then stalling until turn 9 for double bolts for 18 damage. You can't always save roaches and sometimes 0 cost followers are better to charge Tias or shit like glimmering wings
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>>171251205
>who is she anyway?
If you are still here her name is ハードサージェント・マムラング .(Sargent Mamlang.)

http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/d/%8e%ca%8e%b0%8e%c4%8e%de%8e%bb%8e%b0%8e%bc%8e%de%8e%aa%8e%dd%8e%c4%8e%a5%8e%cf%8e%d1%8e%d7%8e%dd%8e%b8%8e%de%20%28%8e%da%8e%bc%8e%de%8e%aa%8e%dd%8e%c4%8e%de%29
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>>171251885
>unfavorable matchup
>win

Oh okay.
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>>171248034
They should have combined all the keywords into a single 2/2 that you get every time.
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>>171253290
I'm at AA3 man, I wasn't gonna climb this shit as fast with a pachinko machine. I just rolled sword and haven for that grind.
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>>171249462
seraph so i can be a statue and not worry about anything since im a statue

maybe someone will hot glue me like an anime figure
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>>171253093
Even if one site is unreliable, that doesn't mean the silver bolt isn't at least teir 2 approaching teir 1
Just because they nerfed a deck that got you free wins doesn't mean forest is dead
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>>171252398
Silverbolt is fine, im enjoying the way it is now. Yeah, it relies on drawing certain things against certain classes and can brick, but you got fair chances against all of them.
OTK was retarded and autopilot.
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>>171253192
I wish I could see your face when a winter's caprice hits so bad
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>>171253383
It's only a Pachinko machine if you play random cards at random times. You choose what direction the ball rolls by making informed decisions and mulliganing properly
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>>171253490
Is that what the animated seraph looks like? That's cool as fuck
>>
Just pulled a White Wolf, anyone mind posting a decklist?
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Always be on Monika guys.
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>>171253631

NOT TODAY, RUNETITS, NOT TODAY!
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>>171252097
>he's actually retarded
Color me surprised.
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>>171253550
>>171253616
>>171253639
Just doing forest dailies is painful nowadays. If by "fine" you mean "I'll climb ladder with a 40% win ratio feeding off of master retards fine" then yeah, sure. But don't pretend it's a top deck cause it ain't.
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>>171253550
He's a shitter, what do you expect? You're wasting your time.

>>171253690
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+make+an+exit+bag%3A+Googling+wolfbolt+decks+edition
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>>171253354
Jesus Christ I want to breed an entire army with her.
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>>171253721
>Have 1 follower on the board
>Play monika, memeing to 4 followers on the board
>Evolve her to kill his evo
>Kill another one of his followers with her
>Hit face
Love those monika swings
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>>171253721
Her face looks so chubby
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>tfw playing aggro dragon in T2
Even Khavy can't save pedofag
Feel good man
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>>171254089
>turn 9
>aggro
>aggro dragon being a thing
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>>171254089
Haven't drawn scholar yet, any good?
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Can I get a concede, please?
26504
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>>171253690
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/jcg-season-2-vol5-1st-place-deck-white-wolf-roach
-1 water fairy, -1 fairy beast, -1 maahes
+3 glimmering wings

>>171253838
Ive got positive winrates, im not saying its top or best for ladder spam, but at least tier 2.
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>yourlifeends30minutesfromnow.jpg
>>
Here's what's Ouroboros gonna be, and it's going to save Dragons

10 pp
X/X
>Fanfare: Both players discard their entire hand
>X becomes equal to the number of cards discarded by this effect


It's obvious
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>>171253036
>>171253098
>>171253272
They could easily make one that just has a separate ladder than ranked. You don't have to play it if you don't want to, but others can. Though I have a feeling you'd see a divide once players realize how much more skillful the BO3 format would be.
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>>171253721
Being on Monika all the time would be too much for my dick to handle.
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Floral Saber Aurelia when?
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>>171254347
>but at least tier 2.
I agree. Probably upper 2 even, but there's so many crazy decks out there man, why would I bother with it when I can get free wins elsewhere while I watch cartoons?
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>>171253690
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>>171254254
Thank you so much, Forte!
>>
Does anyone even play Daria WITHOUT demonic strike anymore?
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>>171254254
Who is this
>>
So, if instants and stuff arent going to be implented, just what can devs do about DShift?

Had a game as MR Sword versus DShift and I had to slam my hand on the table after realizing that he started his combo(and went first) at turn 7 and turns out he got all his DShifts very early to spellboost despite me on the verge of winning
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is it bad that i've been playing for less than a week and already want the harvey birdman hero portrait?
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what sort of music does forte like
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>>171254687
Frederica from Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls. She has some okay doujinshi, if that is what you are asking.
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>>171254609
somebody ever played her without it? it's a mandatory card in any aggro-ish deck because the amount of ward cancer is ridiculous
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>>171254185
No, she's bad
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>>171254817
ROAR
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>>171254906
post Shiki
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>>171254817
>liking music
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>>171254609
I do
I use wind blasts instead
And flame destroyers
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>>171254817
Boy bands because she likes to fantasize about being gangraped
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>>171254817
War drums
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Fuck this card
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>>171255181
He said forte, not your fantasy you queer.
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>>171255267
Yes, I would fuck that card. Are you gay?
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>>171255267
I love that card. It feels great returning it to the haven's hand when its at the 1 mark.
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Will we get a megalorca deck in Tempest? I'm tired of every dragon deck that exists right now.
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WAN WAN
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>>171255050
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>>171255267
>gets kaleidoscoped 1 turn away from activating
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>>171255267
I never really noticed because I don't play Haven outside of dailies, but she's pretty cute.
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>>171255393
We have 2 legos, a gold and a silver to go. That's enough stuff for a megalorca deck to be a thing. If they give the gold, silver and a lego to megalorcas, they can give the second lego to Ramp.
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>>171255276
It's not queer if you and your homies' balls don't touch while you run a train on forte you homo
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>>171255571
Haven is an underrated waifu class, their girls are top quality
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>>171255686
I'm worried it's going to be a bunch of random stuff with no synergy, maybe a heaping spoonful of discard memes.
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HEAR
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>>171255571
She looks like that shrine maiden girl from toukiden
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>>171254089
And i did it, lads. I fucking saved his smile
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>>171255571
it actually has a pretty nice animation too
pretty jelly whenever i see someone play it
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Decking out your opponent is the most honorable win-con, because they had access to their entire deck, and still lost.
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So, how do we fix/balance DShift?

It's sole existence is what limits control decks
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>losing to meme sword deck
Nice tier 1 meta deck shadowbabs
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>>171255864
>Beautiful and cute to boot
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>>171255779
Discard is the funniest deck after Eidiolon PtP
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>>171256002

test of strength and cards like it.
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>>171256002
Neutral spell/follower card that lets you choose a card in your opponent's hand and discard it. After which, they draw another card.
You don't get to actually see their hand, but the cards remain in the same order as they always are in the top-left of the screen.
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mfw Dragon legend reveal today
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>>171256160
>tfw test of strength and aegis/mordecai

Dshift on sucide watch
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>>171256160

>they just remove the minions then go face

It's never been a matter of setting up a defensive board, it's about the fact that dshift gets to use +20pp in one go with no repercussions.
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>>171255393
Yes. We got draw, we got a cheap orca generator, and we got more split threats that will pressure the shit out of them
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>>171256423
>petrifies your armwrestling match
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>>171256423
You have to consider the PP though

Mordecai is 8 PP, Aegis is 10 PP, but DShift can actually complete their combo by 7 PP

It's a complication that you have to deal with if anything
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>>171256529
>drop 2 more beforehand
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>>171256529

they have to drop something to run petrify, making it slower overall
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>>171256625
Aegis is 9pp f a m
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>>171256625
If ramp dragon had Mordecai it would be over for D Shift, but that's about the only thing that could make it happen
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>>171256693
Not with all the new Dshift support
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>>171256693
i'm sure they can afford to drop angelic snipe or some other bullshit for the best removal in the entire game
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>>171256476
I want to believe, but the skeptical side of me feels like too much optimism is image related.
ISLAND WHALE
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>Honorable Duel - Amulet

>Only one follower can attack each turn
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>>171256476
Oh can you tell me since you've tested it... is megalorca a creature type where Neptune buffs any that are tangentially related to it (like serpent), or is megalorca ONLY the 2/2?
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Sounds legit.
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>>171256996
>for the best removal in the entire game

yet they don;t run it because it's too slow for them, meaning the speed of d-shift should go down.
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>beating a higher ranked sword player than you in t2 using havencraft
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>>171257069
That wouldn't stop classical flame destroyer D Shift kills
Really, Imperishable Blade was probably the best they could do for a D Shift counter, it works surprisingly well on paper, it's just bullshit they gave it to one craft, and Sword of all the crafts
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>>171254401
Finally a counter to Dshift. Would shit over forest too. Too bad it will never happen.
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>>171257197
So is this actually used to duel 2 creatures or did people just use it to bottleneck aggro decks?
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>>171257282
I remember being new to the game and beating a master ranked player in T2
I was probably just lucky but man I felt happy about myself
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>>171257139
Only the 2/2.
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>>171257207
We got a mini-merlin and a card that guarantees draws spellcards
As long as you don't do stupid shit like add more spellboost spells just because you had more draws then Dshift isn't going to slow down at all.
Besides, Dshift has always been the most pliable deck since DE. Everyone had different techs here and there(freeze, fiery, witchbolt, petrify, chain, etc.) depending on what they were facing more while playing.
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>>171257431

Bottle neck, also green has huge creatures so they will usually win the long fight.
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>>171256847
>>171256996
But guys look, this is how you win against dshift with haven in ToG.


>Assuming you have at least 1 aegis, 1 seraph, or (grail for odin bait) and 2 test of strength by turn 5.
Turn 1-5 do absolute nothing and hope they mill their dshift or flame destroyer since they cant use removal
Turn 6-7 Drop 2 test of strength
If he use Pertitfy on the test of strength drop seraph
Turn 8 Seraph
If he didn't use Pertitfy on test of strength and kept it for seraph that's okay too.
Turn 9 Aegis

Now dshift can't attack face. With this there is at least 30-40% chance of winning.
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>>171257526
Well that's a bummer.
Why didn't we get a cheap copy of Maelstrom that fills the board with 2/2 megalorcas?
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>>171257616
Because eggs.
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>>171257586

So basically the same strategy in this meta?

The one that doesn't work?
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>>171257586
You do know that he can just remove followers that aren't Aegis right?
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>>171257669
>2 cost legendary creature that destroys eggs early and in addition to the normal destruction effect (draw, heal) brings a megalorca out of the egg
Now THAT would be pod-racing
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>Draft shitty deck in arena
>opponent disconnects even though he was about to make a comeback
>he had 1 hp left
I'll take it
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>>171257669
why cant they summon a little dergon when the amulet gets destroyed
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>>171257789

>You do know that he can just remove followers that aren't Aegis right?

and that matters why?
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>>171257586
But you're dead turn 8
You literally don't get a turn 9.
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>>171257963
Because Test of Strength does nothing if there are no followers that can be attacked
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Just tried out Daria with demonic strikes and I'm currently 1-4. No wonder Daria is considered dead with this shitty "tech" treated as standard. Fuck this.
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>>171257762
It works but it doesn't pretty rare. See picture related. He dshift twice but I literally didn't play any fellowers from 1-7 and won.

>>171257789
If he can't remove aegis and test of strength amulet, he will have to trade his flame destroyer against aegis which will do 0 damage.

>>171258001
You can, I also play dshift against Nep and my last 6 card were flame destroyer. Turn 11.
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>>171258041
Test of strength works because you CAN attack Aegis with a fellower, it will just deal 0 damage. This isn't like dragon forte or Eidiolon.
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I've got insider information.

>Rowen, the First Mage
>7PP 2/2 Storm
>Can only come into play if Dragonclaw Pendant is on the field. Fanfare: Add a Demonic Strike to your hand. Spellboost: Add one more.
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>>171258170
>>171258309
Aegis doesn't come out until turn 9 while dshift will come out at turn 8 average
Other follower before Aegis can mostly be removed by spells and the Dshift player can just petrify your amulet when he's ready to blow his load anyway.
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>>171258423
>Fanfare: Add a Dragon's Nest to your hand
fixed
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>>171258423
You forgot
>Fanfare: Doesn't have ward
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>>171258423
>Spellboost
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>>171258543
dshift will just get destroyed by the real t1 decks, dirt and maelstrom
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>>171258892
Yeah, Turn 6 maelstrom is making me wonder why anyone would want to play other control decks.
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>Dragoncucks complaining about their class instead of playing Face Dragon.
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>>171258892
>throw away all your utility cards for a big guy that dies to themis anyway
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>>171258892
Cucking DShift with the dirt leggo will make me rock hard.
It goes from an autoloss to a pretty easy win
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>>171258543
>fellowers
That's why I literally said don't play anything, especially 2pp fellowers. Since they can spellboost off it and draw. I literally won against nep when I played dshift who didn't play anything but removal from 1-7, 8 nep, then play unica at turn 11 when I was at 5hp and he had two mordecai and 1 ward. If he didn't play unica i would have lost since the kaiescope let me draw into flame destroyer at the bottom 6 cards when I had 2 0 cost dshift ready. (I personally don't run petify).

The thing is, not all dshift runs petrify, and if they do, its because they might brick and need 1 more turn against haven and nep.

Yes I know dshift will most likely win. That's why I said haven might have a 30-40% chance Best case scenario. Worst-case scenario they lose on turn 6.
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>>171257282
>ranking meaning anything in card games
All it proves is who has the most autism to grind.
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>complaining about dshift
>when midblood is about to rule the meta
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>>171259140
>playing it against themis when you could just wait for them to concede after you petrify their seraphs
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>>171259140
Obviously you don't play him against Haven until the late game. But you drop that shit asap against DShift
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>>171259186
>not wanting to prove your autism
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>>171259290
>They play snakes
>Themis
>Heal through their burn
>Win via Seraph
Haven will be here to purify the meta once again
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>>171258892
>pixie mischiefs your lego
What now big boy?
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>>171259465
juno
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>>171259062
turn 6 maelstorm isn't control, it's combo/midrang
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>>171259518
>juno with no activators
Good play
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>play bloodcraft
>can't play c.blood without running into d.shit
>aggro is fucking boring lottery nobody has fun with


can cygames just release the expansion already? what pisses me off about d.shit is that playing any control into it is a literal waste of time, I'd seriously concede EVERY match vs d.shit if they cygames put a "this faggot has d.shit in his deck" indicator

grinding isn't even fun anymore
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>>171259604
Hulking giant only get bonus from earth sigil from your hand. It doesn't use the earth rite on board, so you can use pascale next turn.
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>>171258892
>dirt big guy
>dies to BANE
>dies to the strongest combo 6pp kills ANY 2(TWO) followers
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>>171259526
You can run a combo card in an otherwise control deck without it instantly turning into combo. Now if you recenter the deck around that card, that's another thing.
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>>171259641
>aggro is fucking boring lottery nobody has fun with
Says you faggot. I fucking love playing aggro blood.
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>>171259641
>grinding isn't even fun anymore
Grinding was never fun.
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Post them animated playsets
>tfw no golds/legends
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>>171259679
>things dshift doesn't have
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>>171259290
midrange blood won't be that hot, but I think the real big card people are under-estimating is galretto

gobu into 0p galretto will make mid-range blud viable, you can actually USE blood's understatted big boys somewhat safely
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>>171249023
>Play control
>It drops double Unica
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>>171259679
Dirt giant is just there to fix Dirt's unwinnable match-up.
It can also be an alternate wincon for the best dirt build, ptp
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>when you lose but you remember to say GG

Sorry you're such a cuckold senpai. Better luck next game huh?
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>>171259526
combo is more azazel+laura
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>>171259774
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>>171259436

>sword 2/3 cucking local hag
>why can't I hold all that zombies?

Sorry, anon, but Hagcraft won't fly next meta. Not even with a 9PP 8/8 do nothing.
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I dusted all my animateds because I'm a dirty F2P player who wanted to play 48K vial decks. I think my starting packs even had animated legends.
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>>171259932
It really amplifies Uriel's usefulness, too, both before and after dropping the Hulk on someone's face.

Tinkering around with big guy is just going to be fun, probably a lot of free wins for the first few days.
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>>171260206
I dusted an animated Otohime. No regrets.
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the most exciting thing about blood moon is that you can finally use those fucking shitty vengeance cards

even blood does badly in the meta, now you can have some fun actually USING some of the cards in the fucking craft now
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So, /svg/, do you think the devs even playtested dshift verus control decks?

Or is it that they're too retarded to pilot dshift and occasionally lose to control as a result when they're playtesting?

I'd really like to see a stream of them going up against dshift as a control deck while having to defend themselves from chat about how dshift is balanced.

>Dshift has been relevant for 9 months
>only now is it a possibility for them to need to tech 1 or 2 cards against 1 or 2 matchups or lose sometimes.
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Will Seraph be viable after the new set or should I not bother building it
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>>171257007
It's generic ramp backbone with all its benefits and flaws on top of pushing neptune back a turn because of queen serpent needing overflow. That said, TotG is going to fix a lot of problems with it while allowing us to board vomit and run more simalacrums consistently. It also solves the soccer mom/officer problem of people rarely letting them survive since you will soon have many more combinations from hand beyond the evo queen into a neptune simalacrum next turn or a late game cavalier'd queen/neptune with a queen neptune for a 19/19 board drop from hand

>>171257139
Just the megalorca sadly. You can run saha-reina and mususshu and simalacrums through to drop crazy pressure behind double wards

>>171257616
That'd be pretty crazy with a wyrm spire out and running serpent's force/draconification not to mention that neptune really is a huge danger thanks to the board usually partially surviving to cover an olivia which means you can afford to use draws which means you're right back into the wild ride if they're clearing hard.
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>>171259774
I think I'd actually have a complete set of animated Homecomings if I didn't melt a couple down back in DE.
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With all these board floods and untargetable big guys, Mutagenic Bolt just sounds more and more appealing, Daria will probably be able to afford it but I'm not so sure about DShift. Either way my Mordecais and carrots are gonna get fucked even harder, here's hoping Eachtar will save Shadow.
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>>171260383
They're mtg pros. They're used to bullshit that's so far beyond dshift your head would spin right off your shoulders. Their opinion is git fukken gud
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>lose to Daria who never played a Daria because you thought they were D Shift
I'm so fucking tired of Runecraft.
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>>171260517
>They're mtg pros
Source?
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>>171260384
Seraph is not really good in AA2 because of dshift and aggro sword. It's good A3 and below though.
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It's been long enough since the PR nerf. How do you think this has changed the overall competitive scene now? Dshift and Sword rise aside, what else have you noticed?
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>>171260637
Bullshit, I just climbed to AA3 and am still climbing with it.
The trick is to do Elana/Seraph instead of pure Seraph so your aggro matches aren't as bad. When I tried Pure Seraph I wasn't winning too much, but when I went to Elana I did much better.
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>>171259774
T>Daria shitters for Vania
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>>171260587
One of the devs is 2011 MTG champ or something from what I recall
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>>171260712
Nothing.
Daria is still everywhere. It changed barely fuck-all except let Sword become supreme cancer alongside it. The gobu nerf was the real game-changer.
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>>171260528
>tfw I tech one sorcery cache in daria and play it on curve
>mfw they concede thinking it was dshift
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>>171260517

>mtg pros
>should know the brokenness of the mechanic that is affinity
>caused a shitstorm in RoB just so scrubs can ENJOY shadowverse

Boy, I can't wait for Dredge for shadowcraft.
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>>171254401

How about this?

Ouroboros
7 pp
1/1

Fanfare: Both player discards their entire hand and redraws the same amount of card. Gain +X/+X. X equals to the total number of card discarded in this way.

Enhance (10): Both player discards their entire hand. Gain +X/+X. X equals to the total number of card discarded in this way.
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>>171260637
I'm asking in context of the new expansion. I'm only playing one deck while getting to masters and will build more after that.
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>>171260821
just top 8 iirc

which is very significant
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>>171260475
Need to consider the burn damage from mutagenic bolt though. I guess it's alright if you are ahead.
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>>171260882
I hate that Dshift has started to tech in Oglers and Swordmage just as much as Daria has started to run misc Dshit removal. It was already hard to differentiate the decks T1-3, this shit just makes it even more ambiguous. Hell, some Dshift decks even run Daria as an anti-brick mechanism.
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>>171260587
Yuuki Ichikawa (https://twitter.com/serra2020) and Kentaro Yamamoto (https://shadowverse.com/news/information/news-0042) are on the design team for shadowverse.
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>>171260517
>Their opinion is git fukken gud


actually they haven't said a word about it


probably because they're embarrassed to admit they need d.shift to keep control in check for the meta, or they'll have to deal with a major balancing headache

nobody but d.shit users themselves like it, and from a game design PoV it's only there to stop certain decks from becoming 60% WR behemoths

d.shit is gonna get whacked one day
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>all these dshifts on ladder now
can you guys fuck off
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>>171260920
I personally wouldn't unless you have 10k+ vital and have most deck for other classes. I craft 2 seraph and don't even play it anymore since dshift is better and cheaper too.
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>>171260383
They're perfectly fine with how DShift is. This is from their Analysis of the Current Game Balance post at the end of December.
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>>171260912
Any card that makes your opponent discard their entire hand while advancing your board state is so beyond-belief broken and complete bullshit in the worst possible way. Fuck off with this shitty OC
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>>171260712
Haven and Cblood are actually being played again now that there's one less prominent combo deck bullying them out of existence. People are less afraid to use Aggro and even other Midrange decks now that Daria is less overbearing.

Honestly, it's one of the most healthy and diverse formats I've seen in a card game. Although it is kind of frustrating in the sense that you can't really tech against anything in particular and actually boost your overall win rate.
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>opponent plays pegasus and hallowed dogma
>kaleidoscope it
>they leave

what
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>>171260892
>ENJOYment is reaching untold levels
Two nukes was too few.
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>>171261049
Forgot to mention if you just want to climb to master you can just play aggro decks like blood or shadow. Blood is probably the cheapest aggro deck in the game.
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>>171261075
again, they're fine with d.shit because it keeps control decks from becoming too meta powerful
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>>171261214
Aggro is how you climb in masters too because D Shift. It's aggro all the way down (and up). Control is and always has been a meme in Shadowverse.
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>Midnight Haunt
>substantial amount of Shadow but only lasts 2 turns and a severe drawback
>Blood Moon
>dragon install for 4 turns without any side effect

I can see a buff or nerf happening soon.
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>only 1,000 away from Masters
>haven't made any progress all day

Why have I hit a wall suddenly? All my hands are bricking and all my opponents are getting perfect curves.
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>>171261386
you're tilting
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>>171261075
>games have no interactivity
>deck is 80-20 winrate
>"Cygames here, it balances out to 50% so it's balanced. Clearly players just aren't skilled enough to deal with this deck."
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>>171261045
>go second
>t1 quickblader and t2 quickblader with teachings
>t3 trooper
>get cucked by golem ward, wait 1 turn
>levi wipe
>t4 floral evo into levi
>he glows my knights but I keep floral and hit face
>t5 evo my second floral
>fucking kills everything except a 1/1 knight
>t6 albert evo and hit face
>he drops harnessed flame, dshifts once
>drops glass
And they said storm and board presence was enough to hold back this cancer. If they have enough draw bullshit, they can just wipe anything and feed their dshift to the point nothing short of maybe going first and dealing the maximum possible Storm damage to their face could stop them.

I'm making a Dshift deck as I type this. Fuck the ladder.
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>>171261432
Except it hasn't had 50% win rate for a long time. It's been at a stable 45% for many many months. It's popular because it was top back in Standard and still crushes Control but has one of the lowest win rates among decks played on the ladder.
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>>171261432

>literally git gud the reply

To be fair, they at least did something about PR and Goblin Mage. There are actually much more variety compared to pre-nerf meta.
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how will forest deal with 4 5/5s on turn 6
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>>171261432
>deck has strong points which is balanced out by its bad points
>"WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?"
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>>171261249
Everybody knows why they keep it as is at this point, because of muh mobile game players. It's just funny reading their justifications on why a deck with so many 20/80 matchups is allowed to exist as is.
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>>171261432
The real reason they keep Dshit around is to enforce the soft cap so mobile train gamers won't have to play matches that last more than 5 minutes. It's the same reason they throw so much storm into the game.
Though they're printing a bunch of defensive options now so maybe they're going back on that idea a bit
>>171261574
Dshift is a bad deck because it is 100% about match-up and 0% about skill or interactivity in any way. Literally match-up roulette: the deck.
It's not fun and it's bad for the game overall.
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>>171261140
Same, I think the diverse meta is good but we really need sidedecking to deal with so many matchups, not to mention it's the most amount of skill you can have in a card game.
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>>171261548
Homecoming?
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>>171261657

So, the thing is that nepnep and seraph are capable of filling that niche of ending games.

Dshift doesn't need to exist, for any reason.
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>>171261768
t u r n 6
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>>171260738
Post your list
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>>171261657
>Dshift is a bad deck because it is 100% about match-up and 0% about skill or interactivity in any way. Literally match-up roulette: the deck.
Dshift has the highest skill cap of any deck int he current metagame both in construction and execution. You can't prove me wrong.

>It's not fun and it's bad for the game overall.
Not a valid argument. Your petty emotion have no business on a rational analysis. Kindly reconsider your backwards and compromised stance on this matter.
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>>171261812
But see, nep and seraph have counterplay. Dshift doesn't.
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>nep vs aggro decks

She just cant escape gangbangs from both sides
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>>171261914
And T7 is after that.
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>>171261948
(You)
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>oh hey it should be fine to leave khawy up for a turn
>he urds it
>twice
>in t2
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>>171261990
She can, if you're skilled enough.
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>>171261948
>Dshift has the highest skill cap of any deck int he current metagame both in construction and execution. You can't prove me wrong.
Please leave and never come back.
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How do I beat Elana Haven with aggro blood? I keep getting cucked
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>switch to japanese voices
>VAMPY CHAN HAS AUTISM CHAN DESU NE CHAN :-D
>NIGGER NIGGER GOBU(?) Dx
>TEEHEE SUGOI SUGOI : 3
>G-GAMBARIMASU >W<

God this ear rape is f***ing cancerous.
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Is the Blood prebuilt worth the purchase? This is what I have for Blood/Neutral atm.
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>>171261968

Okay, that's a good thing.

Chances are, if the person's playing control then they're willing to put up with a match that's a little longer than usual. If it's aggro or midrange, they won't have an answer if they can't lethal, and lose.
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>>171262095
No amount of skill can help when they flood the board with storm shit every turn for 5 turns
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>>171261930
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.63_oY.63_oY.60COa.60COa.60COa.60COQ.60COQ.60COQ.67qgu.67qgu.67qgu.67st2.67st2.67st2.642Ey.642Ey.640Xa.640Xa.640Xa.67v3q.67v3q.67v3q.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.67sO6.67sO6.67sO6.6BgWy.6BgWy.645Pw.645Pw.645Pw.67xlY.67xlY.61KvW.61KvW
>>171262182
I know that's a good thing.
But I'm saying they don't like that and want a real soft cap on matches no matter what. Or did at least.
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>>171262197
>t2 unica or resentment
>t3 spartoi or soul hunt
>t4 unica and dindon or spartoi, maybe double
resentment
>play removals as substitution when needed
Nothing else to it. Literally just get good.
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>>171261032
>>171261032
>>171261032

BREAKING NEWS BOYS

https://twitter.com/Team_Cygames/status/842571205538324483

WotC just issued Team cygames (the MtG team that both the devs are part of) a statement saying they can't represent Cygames at GP Shizuoka so they'll can't participate wearing Cygames jerseys.

Apparently they don't like them promoting SV.
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>>171261948
>Dshift has the highest skill cap of any deck int he current metagame both in construction and execution. You can't prove me wrong.
The number of times I've lost games because someone casts Dshift then Daria, hits the right combination of Flamebrood Destroyers and Blade Mages and wins because of them when I have lethal in my hand next turn is annoying. Yes you can argue that the cantrip card draws and tracking what's left in your deck is skill intensive, you have to know that you have drawn 1 Blade Mage so far and if you cast Daria, what are your chances of hitting both of my other ones, how do I spend my evo points to find the best boundary between removing threats and being able to OTK when I hit critical mass. I like this deck and want to play it - I haven't built it because I'm newer to the game and am saving my vials for other decks that I wish to build - but I don't think a deck that can jerk off for the entire game then kill you in 1+timewalked turns is really that well designed. I don't think it should be cut off though, just tweaked somehow so that it's still viable just less OTK. I really like spellboost as a mechanic.
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>>171262197
change up to 23 with spartois or something if you're using the 25 meme deck
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>>171261948
>Dshift has the highest skill cap of any deck int he current metagame both in construction and execution.
>in construction
...what? you have the same 5-8 flex slots as any other deck that's not aggro
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>>171262536
HOMEBREW
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>>171262345
sounds pretty dumb i'd like to hear their reasoning
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>>171262345
I got banned from DCI for refusing to give away people's personal information that I didn't have several years ago, this is more pathetic though.
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>have to do rune dailies
>all i can make is a shitty dirt deck since i vialed dshift and daria
>people insta surrender every 2 games
O-ok.
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>>171262395
the problem is that they let d.shit do it's OTK trash at t7.

at t9 they were annoying but you could at least pull something off, at t7 they essentially make most midrange/control unviable, leaving only combo/roach type shit popular
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>>171262345
I don't get it.

Who are they even competing with. Magic deals in paper and SV is entirely digital.

Do they seriously think SV is stealing players from MTGO? Almost nobody plays it.
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>dshit and daria take skill

Even the other generals which are absolute shit can easily spot bait as obvious as this
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>legendary desert rider
>out of 11 revealed cards, only one benefits from curving into her

Explain.
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>>171261535
Enjoy your 45% winrate. It has a huge meta presence, but it's a deck played only by cucks.
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>near the end of an expansion
>people complaining about sword and dshift again

i wonder what ToG will have in store for us
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>>171263128
EGGS
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>>171263013
You don't curve your bloody mary cards unless you want to delay the game by forcing a trade
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>>171263128
It only gets worse since the main cards of the deck will never be changed
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>>171254089
>Shadow losing to Dragon

How shit do you have to be?
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>>171263013
>desert rider
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>>171263097
Why did dshift even come back like this? The meta was better for it before the nerfs, you got to beat every anti-daria deck and still go 35-65 or better against daria. Now you get completely shrekt by albertcraft, by other aggro decks that have become more viable... even the popular control decks are midrangey enough to punish you if you brick enough
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>>171261993
not if you're going 2nd
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>play wolftbolt
>drop my wolf and trade it, pass turn
>nigger drops a fucking timeless witch
Fuck my life
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>>171262345
Scared of a nip virtual game stealing their players huh. Such pathetic display.
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>>171263468
>setup Mord lethal
>they bounce him with fucking Rimewind

I should've played around it
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>>171262345
doesn't wotc make a hundred gorillion dollars a year?

banning players b/c they rep an asian/weeb digital/phone game with like 0 competition against a behemoth of a physical tcg seems retarded as fuck. also petty.

or maybe they're mad that sv is more popular than mtgo
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Post your post gobu nerf ungabat list.
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>>171263468
Timeless Witch is fucking MVP. I slept on it but once I replaced my veteran alchemists with her I have won a lot more
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>>171263602

If sv was more popular than mtgo then svg would be significantly bigger on a worldwide basis (probably)
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>>171263602
I'm pretty sure both SV and HS make more than Mtg does at this point. Wasting 10 years dicking around instead of just paying to build a good online game was stupid.
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>>171263416
Roach was also FotM and it kills dshift.
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>>171263602
They're not banning players, they're just saying that they can't wear their team uniform, logos, branding etc
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So pre-build decks ain't worth it unless you collect animated legendaries, is that right?
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>>171263784
No, if there's a deck you want to build they can be the efficient way to get there. The forest one is a really good roach start.
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>>171263685
MTG's digital versions have always been shit, it's never grown into popularity because of it. Pokemon has the same issue.
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>>171263784
aside from the sleeves and emblem and unique lego. it also has 1 regular lego along with a few golds so it's pretty good if you want some specific cards
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>>171263784
Forest will likely always be worth it. Two staple legendaries from two different sets plus roach and EPM.

The rest are largely for cosmetics but rune still contains almost all the Dshift staples.
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>>171263741
And what happens if they do? They get banned from events
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>>171263951
they're too afraid of the online vers. taking over the offline

it's a blockbuster-netflix situation, and they're gonna lose terribly in the end.

well, MtG players still around are turbo legacy autists, so who knows, but the future isn't bright
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>>171263951

>MTG online client sucks ass

Yea that i was aware of, I was just doing a shit job at reading and assumed he said mtg, then I typed out mtgo without actually thinking about what it meant.
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>>171264059
No, they clearly want online presence, they've just always been too cheap to hire the programmers they need. They literally pay under the market rate and rely on fanbase autism to convince people to take the job
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>>171261548
Pegasus Elf evolve and May
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>>171264149
why didn't they simply hire some pajeets for nearly nothing
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Where mah dragonbabs at???

Hip hip??
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>>171264257
You still need people who can design and maintain a complex structure stateside.
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>>171264335
pajeets with short time working visas
or mexi-chans
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>>171264415
Because if they're engineers they don't work for peanuts.
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>>171264327
Reporting in. Fishy deck when?
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>>171264059
New paper CCG players are a dying breed.

While there is definitely an element to hanging around in a LGS playing across from actual people there is also always going to be the need to actually drive to a LGS and minimal social skills.

Plus paper is fucking expensive compared to digital. 200 dollars would be considered budget for a competitive standard deck and that could buy you 3x of every prebuilt in SV or 250 daily deal packs.
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>>171264176
then they take 17 damage and die to anything that does 3 damage withing 7 pp
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>>171264497
I'm genuinely glad not to have to deal with real life mtg players anymore.
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>draw cards first 3 cards
>5 , 5 , 6
>redraw all cards
>6, 6, 5
I want to kill myself
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>>171263203

>turn 10 death's breath
>turn 7 deathbrand
>turn 8 phantom's howl

The thing about Mary is that she can turn drawbacks into advantages. I just don't see how Minthe can be good in late game except for the Tyrant meme. You might as well be using Midnight's Haunt.
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>>171264636
storm haven?
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>>171264662
you play spirit cycle and turn your 1 and 2 drops into draw
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>>171249023
The most underrated card of this expansion. Also, that localized name sucks.
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They took my crystal. I took their worhtless lives.
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>>171264852
He'll be back
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>>171264852
>people are preparing for tempest meta already
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>when you can't draw Seraph but you need that daily done
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>>171264636
>going second
>draw first three
>4, 6, 6
>keep the 4, redraw 2
>4, 4, 4 of the same card
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Not bad for a single booster.
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>>171264928
>tempest meta
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>>171265082
On the thumbnail it looks like a ghost, leaning backwards giving a "how about no" face
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>>171265054
I got a WSG earlier too
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This run is fucking amasing.
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What is the most infuriating deck to play against and causes the most suffering?
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>nerf Runecraft
>they end up dominating the meta even more
Jesus christ Cygames sucks at this whole "balancing" thing
ENJOY SHADOWVERSE
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>opponent drops seraph
>not a single petrification drawn
>teachings of creation, kaleid, teachings again
>still no petrification
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>>171259774
Mixed bag here. I mean I like most of them, but there are so many cards I have 2 animated copies of that it drives me nuts.

I'D ALSO APPRECIATE EVEN ONE (1) ANIMATED ANNE TO GO WITH MY ANIMATED GREA.
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>>171265484
Runecraft was never nerfed
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>>171265472

I dunno man, maybe it's the deck everyone bitches about, dshift.

>The story for runetits won't end with her burning at the stake resulting in the permanent removal of rune from the game

It sucks.
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>>171265472
Easily Elana Haven since you heal all the damage you take, kill all their shit, and make games last forever.
Dirt Rune's in the running too.
They're my favorite decks
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They never expect the Gabriel assrape
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>>171265604
>autism
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https://twitter.com/twoJpwyMsslGcgg/status/842611508815192064

Roach Emblem?
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I hope team cygames wins the mtg tournament so we can get free packs again.

Also it's a fuck you to the event itself.
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>>171265484
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Demonic strike with JO - check. Living all the memes.
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>>171266205
you had to participate in a real life tournament in japan, there's going to be a charon one as well
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WotC being faggots again, holy shit.
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>>171266293
Go check the stats if you don't believe me
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Tilted as fuck
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>>171266408
Post deck please. I opened a Gab and want to use her
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>>171266408
>sword bungas
>HA...ME UNGA'D YOU

HERE, HAVE PIC OF UNGA MY BUNGAS!!!!
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>>171266339
Is everyone banned from wearing sponsors on their clothes?
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>>171266526
Otohime decks aren't bunga
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>>171266549
little ungas still bunga
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>>171266549
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>>171266601
It requires you to develop a board. Look at that guy's hand. Nothing there is "unga".
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>>171266408
MOOOOOOOM GET THE CAMERA
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>have 2 clay golems
>1 witchette emmylou
>enemy kills witchette first

what the fuck is wrong with these people?
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>>171266649
>develop board
>bunga till no enemy ungas on curve
>drop many unga-bungas

haha...you trying to unga me?
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>>171266549
Prove it
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>>171266545
No. Only supposedly those that are under another game that looks like they are competing against mtg.
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>>171266649
literally every deck's early-mid game is unga bunga
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>>171266408
Hello C rank
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>>171266769
every sword* deck
>>
WHO THE FUCKING FUCK STILL PLAYS DSHIFT IN 2017
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>>171266769
If you're playing a control deck like that you're trading until the point at which they run out of a board. Calling the fact you then hit their face "unga" is stretching the definition to the point of meaninglessness.
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>>171266549
swords win condition for every deck is literally to bunga face with albert. the only difference is if they stall to do it or just go balls deep and bunga from the start.
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>>171266824
very low skill ceiling players
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>>171266764
what a bunch of pussies
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>>171266867
Alberting at 9 after you've traded the board until that point is vastly different from "unga". Please stop making aggro have no definition.
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>>171266791
He thinks he can only meme at rank C
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"As a matter of course, we told WoTC the acknowledgment that we will make digital TCG Shadowverse beforehand. They approved it then we made our team."
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>>171266837
no you aren't. you're flooding the board and forcing your opponent to trade until you can drop your alberts
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>>171266837
>elana haven at 6 hp turn
>HE DIDN'T UNGA GUYS
>OTOHIME IS HONEST GUYS
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>>171266695
One little failure 's nothing. :^)
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>>171267038
I can give you screenshots of me playing ramp dragon and having someone at 6 HP by turn 8 too, it doesn't make ramp dragon an unga deck. This really seems pointless to argue though--what I'm saying is self-evident, and what you're saying is bizarre, so this will be my last post on the matter.
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>>171267038
You expect him to pass the turn if havenshitter plays an amulet?
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>>171266947
the entire point of csword is to stall until albert and do chip damage. that's why they run alwida, fangblade, olivia, and the rushes.

the entire match in control mirrors is a cat and mouse where you try to get them to 10 hp so you can do 10 damage to their face.
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>>171266891
I mean. It's pretty understandable from the mtg side. A lot if people seem to think that cygames and shadowverse are not popular or anything in Japan. They are fucking huge there.
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>>171267295
I think most people know SV is popular in JP, just not in the west.
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>>171267135
Yes but the point was that sword decks, even """control""' sword plays around hitting face and gaining board contrl by unga. It's the playstyle of the whole arch type. Thanks for conceiding I guess
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>>171266984
>he thinks """"midrange""""""" sword
>is a meme deck

Kys dumb ungabunga cuck
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post yrw after ToG, next expansion will have a neutral/sword/blood follower who is a caveman with storm and actually says UNGA BUNGA when attacking
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>>171267472
That's actually Jungle Protector.
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owl cat better have fucking sleeves and an emblem
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>>171267406
>Midrange
>Gabriel, Olivia, Bahamut, Odin, Lucifer on hand
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>>171267472
gilgamesh
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>>171267472
is anyone going to be playing this game by the end of ToG
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>>171267563
Yeah, I don't know what is up with the people in this thread right now regarding "unga", they're using it to refer to shit that has absolutely nothing to do with mid-range or "unga".
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>>171265082
I always thought that the art is the MGSV burning whale shit
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>short comic and 4koma collection of SV casts doing their daily routine (?)
>release date: 27th March
>>
Reminder that the only non-unga decks are Seraph and Dirt PtP
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>>171267563
That's not a memedeck retard. That's like saying wolfbolt is a meme or elana seraph is a meme deck. Kys
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>>171267790
>3 strongest classes on the cover
Can't make this shit up.
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>yfw you know you win just by looking at your start hand
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>>171267790
I cant fucking wait
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>>171267790
Who is drawing these abominations
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>>171267941
Futo is not Sexual.
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>>171267941
t. unga
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>>171267917
>no isaboob
She must be the MC
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>>171267941
>U KNO U UNGA AT START OF BUNGA!!!

fixed
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>>171267790
Will Ding Dong ever see play again?
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>>171267917

>Luna

That's odd, I thought Luna was the shadow leader.
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>>171268021
It was more the self-confident look in her face, not the sexual part.
If you see sex in a bikini, you shouldn't go to the beach.
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If you do any damage to your opponent's face, you are unga bunga cancer. Therefore, Seraph Haven is the only honest deck in the game.
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>>171267941
>tfw the opposite
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Reminder that we'll have a Famitsu ToG reveal youtube stream at 8PM JST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOIZq6yPNDY
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>>171268224
>DoD in the already lategame extreme dragon
You're just asking to brick
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>>171268159

If I see sex in a bikini, the beach sounds like an awesome place to go.
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>>171267638
>sword hits face
>unga bunga

How hard was that to understand for your tiny brains?
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>>171268262
>starts at 1 am
fuck me
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>>171268265
AYY BUDDY DO YOU WANNA WIN GAY ASS ROWEN MIRRORS OR DO YOU NOT
I was born in the brick... molded by it...
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>>171268181

>no full-blown mill cards for a mill deck

It's like they don't want people playing honorable decks.
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>>171268367
The only mill deck in SV is PtP Dragon.
The twist is you mill yourself
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>>171268159
Self-confident my ass. Futo in bikini is just wrong and I wrote sexual not sex. If you want to show Touhou skin feel free to post that Nyan Nyan wench.
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>>171268181
Seraph does 20 face damage. Its the ultimate unga card
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>>171268430
No it doesn't.
If it dealt damage, there would be ways to block it, like Timeless Witch.
All it does is make you win the game. No damage takes place.
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>>171268425
wew it has been a while since I saw that image
feels good to see your own creation floating arround
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need a private win 76455
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>>171268494
ok then it deals 9999 damage and bypasses all effects
Fun fact, if you kill yourself while removing seraph it still triggers and destroys you
Its the spirit of ungacraft will made manifest into the world
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I think the best thing about Rehab is going to be able to play a decent taunt we can play after Salamander. Right now clearing board against sword is just asking to die the next turn.
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>>171268589
Bahamut doesn't kill you retard. Since seraph does no damage.
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>>171268519
>own creation
Bitch, you're taking pics straight from the booru. I bet you don't even have a proper folder.
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>>171268589
>ok then it deals 9999 damage and bypasses all effects
Anon you're not getting it.
It deals 0 damage. It has absolutely nothing to do with damage. It just wins you the game. It has no relation to very concept of unga. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
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>>171268142
Burn that cancer. There's literally no reason to it be on the cover. For that alone I can tell this 4koma is going to be mediocre
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>>171268430
it doesnt deal damage to win you the round its the ultimate unga
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>>171268142
she already does
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What did he meme by this?
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>>171268262
I'm hopping for more maids.
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>>171268793
>not filling his board with earth sigils until he can't play any creatures
Amateur earth sigil level desu
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>>171268793
You already post this a couple thread ago.
>filename
Fuck off.
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>>171268737
>Doesn't deal damage
>Ultimate unga
???
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>>171268262
Wait, really ? That's at noon for me, awesome
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>>171268793
>MUM
>MUMMY GET THE CAMERA! I WON WITH DARIA!
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>>171268702
Ayup, I made that image on /v/ in the first weeks of ULiL release when they hyped Futo to heaven.

Believe me or not, check the archives.
There is even a different version of it in 'ye olde english speak.
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>>171268864
How new?
>>171268840
Is it a meme or was he waiting for that one big card and destroy me in 2 turns?
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>>171248927
The thing about goblin mount is he can kill your own Aeila which is useful in some matchups.
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nice blog faggot
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>>171262576
it's their tournament and they don't like it. standard business practice. if cygames really wants to promote sv stuff at a competitor's event they should either do some kind of partnership like they are doing with their jap friends or simply respect the space they are in
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>not a single animated legendary in the span of 3 months
>got two in 2 weeks
RNG is one hell of a thing.
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I'm getting burned by this game /svg/

What do I do?
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>it is not real control deck if you do face damage!
So haven only?
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>>171269136
take a break
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>>171268917
> on /v/ in the first weeks of ULiL release
>/v/
>first weeks of ULiL
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>>171269136
switch to tempo rune
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>>171269136
play fun decks not netdecking shit
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>>171269136
Take a break. Don't play for a week or so
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What kind of porn do I watch if I enjoy Witchette Emmylou and Bellringer Angel?
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>>171268930
>he download his own file and post it again

Are you by any chance retard?
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>>171269179
What's wrong buddy?
Did I hurt your /jp/ feelings?
Oh wait, the new /jp/ is on /qa/ I forgot.
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>>171269136
fap
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>>171263013
SHE'S A GOLIATH NOT A DESERT RIDER FAGGOTS STOP GETTING IT WRONG AND THERE'S TWO CARDS THE 2 MANA AMULET AND THE 3 MANA 2/3 EACH GIVING YOU VALUE WHEN YOU PLAY HER
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>>171269143
>Take aggro sword
>Switch 3 vanguards for 3 fronguard generals
>now its a control deck because lmao wards
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>>171250635
Seriously wtf is JO? I've played since DE and I still have no idea
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>>171269143
That's right
Haven is the chemo for the unga cancer
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i want touhoumos to leave
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>>171269274
>/v/
>when they hyped Futo to heaven.
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>>171269176
>>171269219

Yeah I should just do this, thanks anons.

>>171269190
>>171269212

I've been trying my own meme deck but I'm failing hard, I guess I don't have any talent on deck building.

>>171269287
Nice
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>>171269313
>SHE'S A GOLIATH NOT A DESERT RIDER FAGGOTS STOP GETTING IT WRONG
stop getting triggered by memes
also lmao if you think she'll live for the amulet to see her
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>>171269367
I think you fell on your head and hurt yourself.
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Can you guys tell me what "tempo" means and every other jargon used in this game?

It's not in the pastebin
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>>171269438
Bad tempo is when you play do nothing cards.
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>>171269438
Tempo is the BPM of the background music.
Tempo Forest was really strong in DE since the Forest stage has fast music
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>>171269314
>take ramp
>put in fortes
It is aggro now?
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>Dimension Shift
>Daria
>3 oglers
>a Levi
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Anyone have a decent neutralcraft decklist?
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>>171269143
das rite

seraph is the only true honest control deck
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>>171269320
It's an acronym for "jerk off" and a forced meme here. There's an image i couldn't be arsed to save of a guy looking for people to jerk off together while wearing crystal-shaped amulets to charge them with energy. He claimed his crystal glowed during acts of group masturbation. The card dragon amulet resembles that crystal visually.
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>no haven and shadow version yet
>don't have editing skills

thinly veiled request
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>>171269512
>ramp
>lose tempo
>aggro
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>>171251676
>dshift isn't op guys and it doesn't force the game into a perpetual state of aggro at all.

t. dshift player
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>>171269438
its when you outvalue your opponent every turn
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>>171269320
YOU DONT KNOW THE GREAT JO DRAGON
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>>171269725
Outvalue in terms of orbs?
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Jesus christ I'm a fucking idiot, I bought into the ramp dragon meme again and dropped 1000 rating in a matter of minutes. I fucking hate this craft. Why do I do this to myself?
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>>171269512
Ramp already has Forte because Rowen can't finish without her.
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>>171269313

>implying she will survive at the end of the opponent's turn to get you a zombie

Yeah, no.
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>>171269786
board state
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>>171269790
I bought into the Saha/Luci dragon meme. I regret it too.

At least I have other competitive decks though.
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>>171269865
I do too. I just got bored of playing sword and thought "Hey, people are always pretending dragon has better winrates than the stats say, let's just give it another shot". But nope. Just total garbage.
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>>171269790
>>171269865
I enjoyed playing sahaluci after blood and shadow unga. You guys are just tryhards who can't have fun.
>>
Is this game Japanese or Korean?

This is important
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>>171269945
Losing isn't fun, anon.
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>>171269972
Japanese. Enlighten us about importance of this.
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>>171269972
Chinese
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>>171269790
Play aggro Shadow if you're in masters, literally free wins right now. D.Shit is fucking everywhere in masters, and aggro Shadow is the best aggro deck to deal with it. Blood bricks all day with its spells, and """""midrange""""" Sword doesn't shit out enough followers early on to overcome a good removal mulligan from D.Shit.
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>>171269945
Bricking isn't fun
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>>171269691
really hate this meme desu

haven isnt even that strong in DE, the meta was dominated by midrange sword and tempo elf
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>>171269972
Laotian
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>>171270081
Do you still run gobo mage in aggro shadow these days?
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>>171269972
Taiwanese
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>>171270023
>Le tier 1 only netdeck face
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>>171270054
I boycott South Korean products because I had some legal problems with a product from a Korean brand before.
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>>171270081

>blood
>bricking

I have successes with this deck I stole from rank #1 guy
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>>171270174
>>171270174
>>171270174

New thread
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>>171270145
It's because most of the people here are shadowfags, so everyone just complained about Elana instead of Sword and Forest.
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>>171270170
I don't.
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>>171270251
Fuck off with the early threads.
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>>171270197
>you shouldn't try to get rewards from score
>play shitty decks instead!
Anon, it's not that I haven't tried to make it work, I have more games on dragon than any other craft, but eventually losing because your cards are worse just gets boring.
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>>171270251

>730 posts

You bonker.
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>>171270237
Story time?
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>>171270246
No vampiric fortress and mastema and i like them so much. I don't mean it's optimal to use them, they just kinda make the whole thing more interesting.
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>>171270313
>legendary cards
>worst
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I'm going to make a Mint Haunt necromancy deck and none of you can stop me.
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>>171270337
S7
airport
Cousin's wedding


Nothing serious, just confiscated and delayed my flight
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>>171270441

Problem with Vampiric Fortress is that it's a 2PP do nothing unless you have some bats.

That decklist is pretty consistent in making people concede before the turn 4 when they are down at 10 defense while staring at 5 bats.
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>>171270443
>flute
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>>171269438
can't really find a good definition of tempo because it's a LOT more fundamental to the game than most articles make it out to be
a lot of it is about board control, if you have followers on board as you begin the turn you get to use them to do things without spending PP which is very positive for tempo
in its most fundamental sense I would define tempo as the ability to do what your deck wants to be doing, in large part because a major consequence of lacking tempo is having to hemorrhage card advantage as your cards in hand become awkward to use if not entirely worthless
in this sense a deck that's less suited to make use of its PP as time goes on inherently loses tempo turn after turn no matter what happens during the game (though this is balanced out by the tempo they usually gain from their low curve). This is why unica or blackened scripture are good, even if they just go 1-for-1 with a 2drop without an upside like sylvan justice or WSS have, since merely spending both players' turn 2 to do nothing is positive tempo for the non-unga player
games between two non-unga decks can end in a grindy fashion when one player gets run out of resources, but most often ends due to a sudden tempo loss by one player (e.g. if they don't have a good answer for a threat immediately), which tends to become a cascading tempo loss that either kills the player directly or forces them to use their cards disadvantageously at which point the game ends "by attrition" but was really decided by tempo
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*blocks your path*
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>>171270835
Make them hear you roar.
But seriously, if i paid for that i would've picked dragon.
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>>171270835
bat
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>>171270835
Dragon is the 3rd best T2
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>>171270982
I'd argue second because haven got a lot of crappy bronze and silver cards in RoB.
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>beating two albert sword midrange players 10000 mmr above me with my budget aggro blood
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>>171270982
More like 2nd.
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>>171271128
>lose to 3 vampy aggroshitters in a row

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother with ranked.
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>>171269438
It is a little difficult to explain It's late and I'm going to bed, but here's a good example of two tempo decks, tempo mage in HS, and merfolk in MTG. They don't really control the board, they aren't really hard control, they win through creatures but they're not aggro, and they're not a combo. Basically they use tools such as bounces and preventing creatures from attacking or blocking to slow down the enemy JUST enough to win the game. An exaple of a classic tempo play is the bounce spell. All it does is slow down the opponent slightly. It doesn't kill anything, it just makes it so they wasted time. In effect, tempo is making the best use of your time, and having the ability to force your opponent to make a bad use of their resources or lose, in effect restricting their options to ones favorable to you.
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>>171270834
>>171271549
Thanks, it's still hard to absorb because I don't play card games and this will be my first one
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You guys have any rape fantasies?
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>>171271813
Yeah I fantasize about you getting raped by a pack of niggers in jail.
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>>171271651
familiarize yourself with basic mtg terms then read a primer on legacy grixis delver
alternatively, if you get more into it, read this book that some guy wrote about a single card. there's a pdf somewhere but i dont have it on me right now
http://www.eternalcentral.com/product/understandinggush3e/
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>>171272010
Sounds gay dude
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>tfw my favorite gimmick meme deck, ptp snowman will no longer be an autowin VS haven due to their 9 mana unmovable wall
Oh well. I just had fun cucking a Elana and Seraph player just now. That feel when you petrify all 3 of his seraphs.
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