/eagg/ - East Asian Genocide General - Liu Bei did nothing wrong

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>-Xiaoqiao poster kill yourself
based

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why are the DW7 outfits so much crazier than the DW8 ones

>>171192318
dlc ones or the regular?

>>171192367
regular

>>171192115
get in here WUbros

is berserk east asian genocide

>>171192115
>>171192253
Leave him alone. He could be a Baofag, or worse; a Lucinashitter.

Sima Yi did nothing wrong

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>Guanqiu Jian declared his rebellion in the first month of 255, taking up arms at Shouchun. He was joined by Wen Qin and a about 60,000 loyal soldiers.
>Guanqiu Jian sent a long memorial to the throne explaining his actions and calling for Sima Shi to be deposed. In it, he praised Sima Yi, Sima Fu, Sima Zhao, and Sima Wang and clarified that his issue was only with Sima Shi and his control over the government.
>Guanqiu Jian actually recommended merciful treatment for Sima Shi and called for him to be exiled to his fief rather than executed.
>Further, he suggested promotions for Sima Zhao, Sima Fu, and Sima Wang, urging that they be made Grand General, Grand Tutor, and General of the Capital, respectively.
what a human bean, post real human beans who you'd be friends with

>>171193735
Real history is boring.

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>>171193819
>he wants to see Sima Shi in anime fashion dispatch a generic Li Feng who says "i'll let you go for now don't think you've won"
>he doesn't want to see Sima Shi beat Li Feng to death with a sword handle

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>>171193735

> Zhang Zhao was angry that he had been ignored, so he went home and refused to attend court. Sun Quan was angered by this and went to Zhang Zhao’s house. Since Zhang Zhao refused to come out, he sealed up the gate with dirt, locking him inside of his estate. Zhang Zhao responded in kind and piled dirt up on the other side of the gate so that it would not open one way or another. Zhang Zhao evidently remained sealed in his estate for several months while the situation in Liaodong unfolded. Gongsun Yuan returned to his loyalty to Wei, and Sun Quan’s ambassadors met with disaster. Sun Quan now saw that Zhang Zhao’s advice was wise after all and wanted to apologize. But Zhang Zhao refused to come out of his estate to meet with Sun Quan. In what must have been a flash of insanity, Sun Quan decided to set Zhang Zhao’s gate on fire in hopes of scaring him out. But Zhang Zhao was the most stubborn man in the Three Kingdoms and refused to leave, even with the gate on fire. Sun Quan eventually realized this and extinguished the flames. He then sat outside of Zhang Zhao’s house for a long time. Zhang Zhao’s sons thought that this had gone on more than long enough. They seized him and carried him to the door, then helped him and Sun Quan into a carriage. They went to the palace, where both of them apologized for their behavior. After that, Zhang Zhao returned to court once again.

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>>171194465
>Zhang Zhao’s sons thought that this had gone on more than long enough. They seized him and carried him to the door, then helped him and Sun Quan into a carriage.
lol

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>>171194465
I love learning this stuff.

>>171194083
no, I wanna be Guts, Luffy or Link being stylish and killing thousands of mooks.

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>>171193735

>Fei Yi did an excellent job in his administrative role. He ha a perfect memory and never forgot anything he saw or read. Because of his extraordinary brilliance, he was able to handle all of the government’s daily documents, records, and such by noon and would spend the afternoons and evenings inviting guests to his home and throwing banquets. And this wasn’t because Shu didn’t have a lot going on. When Dong Yun replaced Fei Yi, he tried to emulate Fei Yi’s lifestyle but within 10 days the government almost came to a complete standstill because of all of the paperwork that hadn’t gotten done yet.

>>171194465
What was Sun Quan's problem? It's like after Yiling he went full retard.

>>171192594

BAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>171195208
Old age most likely brought on senility to a degree. He was still capable of making sound and rational decisions. That whole Gongsun Yuan situation was a clusterfuck for all parties involved though.

>>171195208

>he doesn't know

Oh boy, time to post more of Sun Quan's "incidents".

>The King (Sun Quan) was drinking with his body of officials; he rose up and went around to toast everyone. Yu Fan lay prostrate on the ground and feigned as if he could not contain any more wine. When the King left him, Yu Fan rose up and took his seat. The King was very angry, and grasped his sword to strike at him. Of those sitting in attendance on him there was not one who was not startled and frightened. It was only the Minister of Agriculture (da sinong) Liu Ji who rose up and embraced the King, remonstrating with him. Liu Ji said, “After three cups of wine the Great King in person will kill an excellent gentleman. Yu Fan deserves his punishment, but will the world believe that? Furthermore, the Great King has been loved by the empire because he is able to tolerate the worthy and nourish the multitudes. Must he give up his good name on the spur of the moment?"

>The King said, "Even Cao Mengde killed Kong Wenju {aka Kong Rong}. Why can’t I kill Yu Fan?"

>Liu Ji said, "Cao Mengde was frivolous enough to kill a gentleman; the empire blamed him for it. But the Great King himself is practicing virtue and justice, with the intention of becoming a peer of Yao and Shun. How can he compare himself with such a man?” Yu Fan’s life was thus saved. Then the King ordered to his attendants, that from now on no man should be killed if he, in a moment of intoxication, should issue such a command. Liu Ji was Liu Yu’s son.

>>171195208

>when your daddudu doesn't notice you

>Sun Quan was in Gong’an at that time, so he took Lü Meng into the inner palace for care, and recruited doctors from all parts of the realm to treat him. An edict was issued stating that he who was able to treat Lü Meng’s illness would be awarded one thousand gold. Whenever Lü Meng required acupuncture treatment, Sun Quan would feel sad for him and on several occasions wished to go and see his complexion. However, fearing that he would disturb him, he cut a hole in a wall and watched Lü Meng through it from outside. When he saw that he could eat a bit of food, Sun Quan would become glad, and spoke happily to his attendants. Otherwise, he would sigh, and not be able to sleep at night. When Lü Meng seemed to be improving, Sun Quan granted a general amnesty to all in Lü Meng’s honour, and all the officers rejoiced and congratulated him. However, the illness then took a turn for the worse, and Sun Quan went to visit him personally, and ordered Taoist priests to pray under the stars for Lü Meng’s life. Lü Meng eventually died in the inner palace at the age of 42. Upon his death, Sun Quan was grief-stricken, and fasted in mourning of him. Before his death, Lü Meng had carefully stored all the gold and treasures ever awarded to him, and ordered that, on the day of his death, the keeper of the store were to return all of it to the state. He also willed to keep funeral expenses to a minimum. When Sun Quan heard about it, his grief doubled.

>>171195208

>In 230, Sun Quan sent Wei Wen and Zhuge Zhi with 10,000 soldiers to sail the seas in search of the semi-mythical islands Yizhou and Tanzhou, hoping to capture these islands and add them to his domain. Naturally, Sun Quan’s advisers objected to this - particularly Lu Xun and Quan Zong - but he ignored them.

>Tanzhou was particularly mythical. According to legend at the time The Qin emperor sent a magician named Xu Fu and a boat full of young men and women in search of the mythical Mount Penglai in order to obtain an elixir of immortality. Xu Fu found the island and stayed there, populating it with the woman he brought with him. His descendants colonized it, and they occasionally came to Kuaiji to trade, though it was nearly impossible to sail to the island. The historian Hu Sanxing believed that Tanzhou was, in fact, Japan - that the islands of Japan were discovered by Xu Fu’s expedition and colonized by him. Of course, most Japanese people violently protest this, but there is no way to know for certain, and it would explain certain cultural similarities.

>Yizhou was also largely mythical. It was said to be an island where it was summer all the time. All kinds of foods were abundant, and it had rich natural resources. The people of the island used deer antlers for weapons, and entire families slept in the same bed.

>Zhuge Zhi and Wei Wen never reached Tanzhou, but they did find an island that they decided must be Yizhou. However, their whole expeditionw as a horrible disaster, as was their attempt to conquer the island By the time they returned to Wu in 231, 80-90% of their soldiers were dead. Sun Quan was angered by their failure and executed both of them.

>>171195434
>The King said, "Even Cao Mengde killed Kong Wenju {aka Kong Rong}. Why can’t I kill Yu Fan?"
Liu Ji really should have said "Cao Cao killed him because he was a political opponent, you're going to kill Yu Fan because he doesn't want a drink"

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>>171195208

Finally, there's this incident where Sun Quan exposed himself as a barafag.


>Zhou Tai did a lot for Sun Quan. At one point, the man literally used his body as a shield to protect Sun Quan when he was just 14. At one point, Sun Quan decided to reward this by making Zhou Tai Commander of Ruxu, a very important military position. Basically, if Cao Cao was going to attack Wu, he’d do it there.
But when Zhou Tai got there, some of the officers didn’t want to take orders from him. Some were from better families, some felt that they had more achievements, and some just didn’t want to do what Zhou Tai said because they’d been around longer.

>When he heard about this, Sun Quan went to Ruxu to settle things. He held a special banquet for Zhou Tai to demonstrate how much he valued him. And then things started to get weird.

>Sun Quan ordered Zhou Tai to take off his clothes in front of everyone. Quan then pointed out each and every scar Zhou Tai had and made him talk about how he got them.

>While it sounds kind of nice, really try to picture this. On the one hand, you’ve got Sun Quan who was probably drunk as hell. And then there’s Zhou Tai, who is just standing there bareass naked. Then Sun Quan starts to lovingly trace all of his scars and Zhou Tai has to relive traumatic moments from his recent past. All the while, a bunch of Wu officers who didn’t respect Zhou Tai to begin with are just sitting there trying not to laugh or cry while this goes on.

>>171195085
Too bad one of those banquets got him killed.

>>171196049

DELET

>wei hypothetical route
>wu demolished
>lu bei goes from controlling literally nothing to half the fucking land of china in the blink of an eye
>not even by winning a decisive battle
>but by running away and using the power of friendship

Getting real sick of the Shucuckoldry at KT.

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>>171193735

>When the warlord Cao Cao raised an army to participate in the campaign against the tyrannical warlord Dong Zhuo, who controlled the Han central government, he engaged Dong Zhuo's general Xu Rong at the Battle of Xingyang. Xu Rong defeated Cao Cao in battle and forced him to retreat. While fleeing from the enemy, Cao Cao lost his horse so Cao Hong got off his own horse and offered it to him. When Cao Cao declined, Cao Hong said, "The world can do without (Cao) Hong, but it can't do without you." He then escorted Cao Cao on foot to the bank of the Bian River. As the river was too deep for them to wade across, Cao Hong swam around in search of a boat and finally found one. They crossed the river and returned to Cao Cao's hometown in Qiao County safely.

Truly a real human bean

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>>171196183
Forgot my memeface so you'll know how I feel.

>>171196183

B E N E V O L E N C E

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>>171196278
>that design
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

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>>171196572

Atleast its not as bad as Cao Zhen's

>>171196663
literally xu zhu

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>>171195434
>>171195525
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>>171195771
Wu deserved better than this shitlord.

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>>171196663
>Cao Zhen's character will literally be "bullied fat kid" if he is added

>>171196907
What about Xu Zhu?

>>171197703
xu zhu was, is and will always be "retarded fat kid"

>>171197703
don't you mean Xu Shu? or am I thinking of Xu Chu?

>>171197783
Xu Shu is the hooded She/Wei strategist with the puberty mustache

>>171197850
Shu,rather

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We did it bros!

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>>171199093
>all the death lines in that stage

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>>171199510
>qt yinping was slain

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N-NANI??!?!?

>>171199978
>too intelligent to govern properly

Why the fuck is Zhao Yan so popular with the Dev team and in the popularity polls. He doesn't do shit except become XTREME BABY-SITTER for a few minutes and suck Liu Bei's cock.

>>171202635
handsome
JUSTice
loyal to the most popular faction till the end. One of the few Shu officer's who didn't go full retard or a dick.

>>171202635
I haven't read RotTK, but doesn't he get a healthy dose of Shu propaganda in his favor? That, combined with a prettyboy design since DW2 is probably it.

>>171202635
Because he's Ma Chao, if Ma Chao didn't suck

>>171202635
>implying those polls aren't rigged by the dev team themselves to justify their faggy ways

>>171203151
t. Zhao Yan

>>171196663
This fat motherfucker BTFO zhuge liang 3 times
Zhugelets, when will they learn?

>>171199978
>tfw you look almost exactly like this
Oh no

Threadly reminder Ieyasu is human waste.

>>171205108
Calm down, Mitsunari.

dian wei is the stronkest

REEE PUK GET TRANSLATED

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I'm really hoping that the Conquest of Wu will be a thing in DW9 with Sima Yan and Sun Hao as playable characters.

>>171208627
Pucc

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>>171205326
No.

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>>171209490
Puck?

>>171209940
this broke me...

>>171209418
I hope DW9 has a battle for the time Sun Quan send 10000 troops to find mythical islands. I would also accept a battle where Cao Cao and Chen Gong slaughter his uncle's defensless family and servants.

>>171211482
I can only imagine the Slaughter part to be a mini-stage where Koei exaggerates it so that after you slay the family, you have to massacre a ton of servants to escape.

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>>171205326
Stop being such a bully. Mitsunari is going through a very dark and depressing life, you should understand him and his desire to kill that wretched individual known as Ieyasu Tokugawa...

Unless... Unless you are none other than Ieyasu himself. The biggest ~bully~ in all of the land. Shame on you my friend, shame on you.

>>171212936

mitsunari doesn't care about you

>>171195525
The best dadudu

>>171213171
I know, friend.

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>hyrule warriors, no, still haven't give up
>really want to unlock the 3 remaining fucking characters and get it over with
>missions past a certain point are literally impossible
>especially with locked characters who are underleveled

Am I retarded and missing something?
Or is the game telling me "fuck you, go grind?
That's it, isn't it?
WHY DOESN'T THIS SHIT SCALE
WHO DESIGNED THIS AND WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO LIVE
HANG HIM AND THE ONE WHO THOUGHT BOSSES WERE A GOOD IDEA TOO

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>>171213171
>spoiler

>>171214347
Zeldashit is offtopic, leave.

>>171215128
>Developed by Omega Force and Team Ninja
>All awful ideas from Koei Tecmo
>Grindy as fuck
>Is a Warriors game to boot

A mediocre Zelda paint job does not change its true nature.

>>171215128

No, you fuck off.

>>171215424
>>171215506
>>>/nintenshitgen/
Leave, Zeldashit is offtopic garbage for kids.

>>171215565

This is your new home
>>>/trash/

>>171215565
How is it off topic?

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>>171215128
>>171215565

>>171215663
But that's where nintentrash goes.

>>171215565
>>171215128
You don't have to shitpost to keep this general alive, anon.

>>171215663
>>171215664
>>171215673
Nintenkiddies don't belong in this general. Just go. Nobody wants your shitty games here.
You are the Shu of video games.

>>171215812
But how is Hyrule Warriors off-topic?

>>171215812
>You are the Shu of video games.

Absolutely savage.

>>171215812

Are you 12 or just an annoying retard?

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>>171216049
Stop projecting sweetie.

>>171216049
Not a single person went along with his Zelda garbage. /eagg/ has spoken.
We do not want Nintentrash.

>>171216501
>/eagg/ has spoken
>literally one person

>>171216580
>nintentoddler posts Zelda
>no responses
>other than 1 person rightfully telling them to fuck off
Yes, /eagg/ has spoken. Nobody replied to him to discuss Zeldashit.

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>>171203892
You know, I've tried searching through the original SGZ, but I can't find any reference to Cao Zhen being fat.

Anyone have a link to the text where it says it? Or is it entirely made up by fiction?

>>171216501

Go fuck yourself, non-idort subhuman.

>being loyal to companies
Fucking retard.

>>171216719
last time I commented on it, all I did was state that there's a load more unlockable characters in Legends, and some are even more crazy to get.

albet, despite it being a game developed by KT, it's not really prefered here. From what I gather.

>>171216501
>Nintentrash
Yet Fire Emblem is mentioned in the OP. Make up your mind.

is the encyclopedia in the games actually reliable as for as historical accuracy?

>>171216904
Not him but I'm not loyal to any company, only actively against Nintenshit.

>>171217027
>only actively against Nintenshit
Why?

>>171216975
A nintenfat must of snuck that in. I'll be sure to take it out next time, thanks.

My first official "Warriors" game was Samurai Warriors 3, for Wii.

>>171217131
I hate their games, their fans, and their business side.

>>171216904
>owning nintenshit
No wonder you're clearly a complete moron.

and I considder myself a total Dumbass.

>>171217178
If you are the OP of the Pastebin too, change it or something where Nintendo-related warriors is a taboo or whatever.

So this is how the Han dies... not with a >10 but with Hyrule Warriors.

>>171217178
Make sure to take out all of the other non-related games like Berserk and Fate if that's the case.

>>171218010
Butthurt Nintenshit detected. Only Nintenshit crossovers need to fuck off.

>>171217791
/eagg/ survived for 100 posts, why can't it survive 100 more?

Least it ain't the Gundam fans here, that's for certain.

>>171218115
Sure, but some games are still off-topic if we're going strictly with East Asian themed games.

>>171218262
we're still better than the nintenfats you bastard ;~;

Stop falling for the shitposters bait you dinguses.

>>171218489
We're not enforcing East Asian only. We're simply making a majority voted decision to remove Nintengarbage from the general.

>>171218173
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>171218770
What was Zhuge Liang's stance of the Han anyways? Liu Bei loved the Han, but did Zhugle Liang really care for it or was he just in it for his lord????

http://poal.me/6pisun

>>171218934
what happened to strawpoll?

>>171218884
>Liu Bei loved the Han
>im-fucking-plying

>>171218934
How long will the poll be open for?

>>171196278
Why do so many RoTK portraits have the dudes grasping jewels, coins, or beads?

>>171218884
He's just in for shits and giggles with his three kingdoms plan and all that jazz

I had no idea Sun Quan went full retard that hard.

>>171218884
Liu Bei was the only guy desperate enough to make a random dude living in the mountains his chief advisor and strategist, obviously he'd tell him he's the greatest lifelong Han supporter under the heaven.

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A Han divided cannot stand. I think both sides should nominate their best warrior to fight and whoever wins decideds Nintendo musous fate.

What is everyone's opinion on the Dynasty Tactics games? I've heard that they had some good hypothetical scenarios.

Has this general always been this autistic over Zelda Musou?

>>171218884
Zhuge Liang was literally Shu's Cao Cao.

Li Yan even called him out on this by "recommending" that Zhuge Liang be given the Nine Honors and title as King of Langye. It was obvious to everyone what comparison he was making.

>>171220583
Is that the one where Guan Yu melts Pang De's spear?

Are the historical events in Ascension and SoI completely railroaded? As in, if you do nothing, does everything play out historically?

Considering whether or not to turn off the historical events and quests, I hate railroading. Also, what happens if you turn off the historical quests but not the events?

>>171220730
I believe that is Kessen II, where everyone has magical powers and Liu Bei picks a fight with God at the Battle of Chibi

>>171220625
Yup. The existence of the poll should indicate that.

>>171220915
Ohhh right. Sorry about that. I got no idea about Dynasty Tactics then.

Oh hey, Pre-orders for Spirit of Sanada are now up.

>>171220795
It depends. some events require certain things to happen to trigger and can affect the game like replacing Daimyo's or taking land, but some events are just flavor for more info on the period and require no input by the player or AI. As it is, events are fairly anal about their triggers, so while you will see a good amount of events after starting a scenario since everything hasn't been derailed, events become less and less frequent as the AI makes decisions that end up preventing events from firing. For example I never get a lot of events about Nobunaga and the Viper of Mino if I start at Nobunaga's birth, however if I start at Viper of Mino I get a bunch of events that never triggered if I started at Nobunaga's Birth.

>>171220478
How about the talk is allowed because it's Musou? If it triggers people who cares. They even bitched about Berserk Musou and Fate Estella. If it's not their tried and true chinese ching chong ding dong three kingdom settings and developed by Koei, they will dislike it, no matter what.

Hide the autismo shitposters because nobody can deny these games are not Musou.

>>171221218
So basically, the AI does not follow the events, it does its own thing? Thanks

>>171220795
>>171221218
I guess I should of answered your question more clearly. The game isn't railroaded completely, however clans that did well historically will still most likely do well in-game even when history gets derailed after a few in-game years.

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>>171192253
Fucks given:

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>>171221604

I'm more for Sengoku then Three Kingdoms, really.

>>171221439
Thank you, I have one more question, related to age. If I set the age to historical, does that mean that characters like say, Nobunaga, will die regardless of whether or not the Honnō-ji incident event triggered, during the year it's supposed to happen? How much does "longevity" increase the lifespan of officers?

>>171221782
That's cool.

>>171221782
The games for it are better too.

>>171221782
>tfw was introduced into sengoku through sengoku rance
We need more simple to play hard to master 2D Sengoku strategy games, to be honest.

>40 votes in the poll
>29 IPs here
hmmmm really makes me think

>>171221831
event deaths are deaths no matter what the setting is. The way I understand it is that the age setting is more of a "suggestion" where if a character died in 1541, he will get sick around 1541 and die in a few months time, give or take a year or so. I have no idea how much longevity increases their life, but from what I've played and seen it adds at least 10 years before they start getting the deadly sickness.

>>171222223
So close yet so far
>>171222222

>>171222223
what are lurkers

>>171222368
retards

>>171222306
>event deaths are deaths no matter what the setting is.
In other words, Nobunaga will always die in 1582, regardless of the event never triggering? Even if Akechi Mitsuhide is dead?

>>171222638
sort of? If the event doesn't trigger than he won't die the exact moment the event would of triggered. Instead Nobunaga will probably get sick and pass away within 1-2 years if longevity/ageless isn't turned on. I also think there are facilities which increase the lifespan of characters, that would put off his death for a few years as well I think .

>>171222638
Good question. I guess I'll go experiment on that now. Be right back.

koei please translate taikou risshiden

>>171222223
>tfw voted yes over 20 times now

>>171223305
>tfw voted no over 20 times now

>>171223453
I think the nos are all genuine since I think we can all agree that nintentrash does not belong here. The yeses, however...

>>171223612
I think the yes's are all genuine since I think we can all agree that Nintendo musou does belong here. The no's, however...

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>>171223750
Why do you choose to shitpost? Are you one of the retards that thinks this is a designated shitting site, while other places host actual discussion?

>>171223750
I think the nos are all genuine since I think we can all agree that nintentrash does not belong here. The yes's, however...

>>171223842
I think the yes's are all genuine since I think we can all agree that Nintendo musou does belong here. The no's, however...

>>171223918
I think the nos are all genuine since I think we can all agree that nintentrash does not belong here. The yes's, however...

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>they fell for the easily rigged online poll meme

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>Page 10

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How long does it take to plat DW8CE, anyways?

Can we all at least agree that Masamune is cute?

>>171226063
I'm over 100 hours in and I haven't finished Ambition mode.

>>171226680
y-you too...

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>>171223012
>>171222638
It is now June 1585, 3 years after Honnoji was supposed to happen. I'm playing Akechi Mitsuhide, and decided to be loyal and not murder my boss for poorly described reasons.

So, Nobunaga can live at least 3 years after he's historically supposed to have died. I'm going to stop playing for now though, because I have essays to write.

>>171222198
huh.
I was introduced into Sengoku via a certain Hunting Action game.

God I fucking hate Li Dian

>>171227754
Your worst nightmare?

>>171227082
Thanks for checking it out anon

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This evil motherfucker right here, is there anything more evil than this thing that can't even be called human?

>>171230049
Nintenfats forcing their shit upon others.

>>171230130
Truly despicable...

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Why can't she be real?

Life would be so much easier if I was dead.

>>171230049
Literally who

>>171230630
Aren't those dogs the breed that was bred to be eaten? Is she snuggling to her next dinner?

>>171231582
Some evil scheming motherfucker

>>171230630
i wonder what happened to her after Xiapi

>>171231776
Read the doujin

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>>171231973

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>>171231776
>>171231973

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>>171233056

>>171233532
Memes aside, he really was gay wasn't he?
>forced his two sworn brothers to kill their wives
>always say how they're more important than them
>always sacrifice his wives first when running away
>didn't have the guts to even touch some prime Sun pussy
>only one (retarded) son after decades of having multiple wives

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Just finished that "Find the Beauties" mission at the end of the Wei story.

Fuck, what was the point of all that? I want to kill myself now more than usual

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>>171234296

>>171233869
So was Sun Quan if that scar story is anything to go by no wonder cao cao won

>>171234559
Sun Quan was just drunk and thought it would be a hilarious party story, Liu Bei seems like he truly hates women to his core.

>>171234296
Every faction has a joke mission at the end.

>>171234807
>Liu Bei seems like he truly hates women to his core
>tfw it turns out Lui Bei was /our guy/ all along

Answering some questions regarding Spirits of Sanada from las thread

>What's a red zone
It's a portion of the map where the enemy's morale is sky high. Your hyper attack is ineffective, the enemy also got boosted in health, defense and attack. It's been a thing since vanilla 4

>Is Sasuke unique?
Yes, he's fully unique. Why wouldn't he? He's a hyper type, and to be honest, his moveset sucks because he jumps around too much while attacking.

>>171233869
Modern terms like "gay" don't really apply to those times.

Back then it didn't matter if you preferred to do guys or do both, just so long as you also honored your familial obligation to have children. So long as you married and had children, you could also have male lovers on the side.

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Only two weeks until Musou Stars... it won't be long now...

>>171238037
So a gay guy that had a child for the family.

>>171238037
Seems like a great times

>>171238037
You didn't even need to make a kid, there was always adoption. Cao Cao's father, Cao Song, was adopted from the Xiahou family by the eunuch Cao Teng, so you didn't even need balls to leave legal descendants.

>>171235395
Does Yukimura have a new moveset?

>>171241317
Pretty sure it's three movesets to be exact. since he has three separate characters in that game. (they being Youth, Mature, and Elder) with Mature being his standard moveset from 4.

>>171242029
For actual new playable characters we have Youth Yukimura, Elder Yukimura, Masayuki, Chacha, and Sasuke. Katsuyori and Hidetada... while they are new characters, they just have the CAW Spear and Sword movesets.

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>>171242029
>I get 3 Yukimuras

>>171242863
while Yukimura also has an appearance of a teenager for his supposed "Mature" character, really it's just an alt outfit (in all technical aspects) of his standard self from 4, same applies with Masayuki with his appearances and also Nobuyuki's other appearances except for his youth model.

>>171242328
>hidetada isn't anime fat anymore

good

>>171222198
>>171222198
>the Hannies are having fun

>>171243546
Honestly, anything but using a generic for a character is nice in SW. I thought it was great that they used unique designs in the first game for characters that weren't going to be playable like Kennyo and Nagamasa. The only excuse now is that the character might be playable some day so they don't want to finalize a design, but there are plenty of characters that would likely never be playable that they could make more interesting just by using a different head or something.

>>171241317
>>171242029
The young Yukimura is a gimped version of Yukimura. He doesn't learn new move when level up and his charge attack is slightly off compared to his old self. Adolescent Yukimura is the standard version we got since the vanilla. The old version has an extended version of the moveset, where all of his charge got 1 new attack at the end, a new C6 only he has and new Musou attacks. Old Yukimura is fun and OP as fuck.

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What do these two yellow diamonds mean? This is the first time I've seen them before.

>>171247550
They are rare weapons dropped by the playable characters when you defeat them.

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Lord Orochi demands your top 3 characters or you will be eaten by the hydra.

>>171251219
Zhang Liao
Lu Meng
Cao Cao

>>171251219
Lu Meng
Zhou Yu
Sima Yi
FUCK Lu Su for pursuing the alliance with Shu and trying to uphold it

William Adams
Sanada Yukimura
Toon Zelda

on second though, scratch that last one, Oda Nobunaga it is.

>>171251219
Fug.

Xiahou Dun
Hanzō Hattori
Master Asia or Domon Kasshu

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>>171251219
Zhang Liao
Guo Huai
Xiahou Dun

>>171251219
Sima Yi
Lu Meng
Cao Cao

>>171251689
>Toon Zelda
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>171252874
JUST ANOTHER VICTIM

>>171251379
>>171252734
>Zhang Liao
Good taste.

What if it turns out that Yue Jin has always been holding back and has only been using 10% of the Speed Force?

>>171251219
I'm surprised Lord Orochi isn't demanding bitches.

Xiahou Dun
Pang Tong
Lu Meng

>>171251219
based Lu Meng
Sun Jian
Yukimura

>>171251219
Zhao Yun
Sanada Yukimura
Kamen Rider Kabuto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0v0wztTyA

I didn't realize the Otomo hung on this long in the Sengoku Jidai.

I am here to avenge my uncle's death

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>>171251219
Nene
Xingcai
Ina

>>171251219
Sun Ce
Lu Meng
Pang Tong

>>171251219
Guo Huai
Pang De
Jia Chong

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>all there Lu Mengs
...>:(

>>171251219
Give me Da Ji so I can marry her and have several babies with her or I fuck the Hydra to death.

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>>171260606
>all there
and they said Lu Meng was illiterate

Name a cool dude from Wu

THAT ISN'T LU MENG

>>171262030
Sun Jian

>>171262030
Sun Jian

>>171262030
Yu Fan.

Give me my wine and delicious looking game hen

>>171262030
Zhou Tai.
Han Dang.
Huang Gai.
Cheng Pu.
Taishi Ci.

What if Huang Gai taught Lianshi how to wrestle.

And she wanted to test out her new moves on you?

>>171262350
"You're going to face me! Step forward!"

>>171262350
>and she wanted to test out her new moves on you?
I'M GOING TO HAVE YOUR HEAD

>>171262350
Dunno, since Huang Gai surfs on his new boat now. If she copied those moves intstead, at least I wouldn't have to worry about her coming anywhere close to hitting me.

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>>171262452
>>171262731
Lianshi will never compliment you for you're
>perfect timing

>all of the waifus in DW are cuckbait

Where the widows be at?

>>171263721
there's Wang Yi and Cai Yan. All the other Widows were claimed by Cao Cao.

>>171263812
Cai Wenji got her booty rammed by over 80 fat barbarians.

>>171264014

DELETE THIS

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>>171263812

>used goods

>>171264167
Didn't Cao Pee marry Zhenji while she was still married to someone else?

>>171264373

Lady Zhen married Yuan Xi sometime in the middle of the Jian'an era (196–220). He the second son of Yuan Shao. Yuan Shao later put Yuan Xi in charge of You Province, so Yuan Xi left to assume his appointment. Lady Zhen did not follow her husband and remained in Ye (in present-day Handan, Hebei), the administrative centre of Yuan Shao's domain, to take care of her mother-in-law.

Yuan Shao lost to his rival, Cao Cao, at the Battle of Guandu in 200 CE and died two years later. After his death, his sons Yuan Tan and Yuan Shang became embroiled in internecine struggles over their father's vast domain. When the Yuan brothers were exhausted from their wars against each other, Cao Cao attacked and defeated them, swiftly conquering the territories that used to be controlled by the Yuans. In 204, Cao Cao defeated Yuan Shang at the Battle of Ye and his forces occupied the city. Cao Cao's son, Cao Pi, entered Yuan Shao's residence and met Lady Liu (Yuan Shao's widow) and Lady Zhen. Lady Zhen was so terrified that she buried her face in her mother-in-law's lap. Cao Pi said, "What's going on, Madam Liu? Ask that lady to lift up her head!" Cao Pi was very impressed and entranced by Lady Zhen's beauty when he saw her. His father allowed him to marry her later. Another account of this incident stated that Lady Liu and Lady Zhen were in Yuan Shang's residence when Cao Pi entered. Lady Zhen's hair was dishevelled and she was crying behind her mother-in-law. When Cao Pi asked, Lady Liu told him the woman behind her was Yuan Xi's wife. Cao Pi was so entranced by Lady Zhen's beauty that he married her and treated her well.

>>171264816
>and treated her well.

And then ordered her to kill herself.

>>171264914
I bet he shitposts here too

>>171264914

>implying that actually happened

In Lady Zhen’s SGZ biography, Chen Shou says that Cao Pi ordered her to commit suicide. This is the account that is accepted by most historians, since the SGZ is typically the most reliable source.

On the other hand, the weishu (the official records of Wei) says that Lady Zhen died of illness. Usually, Chen Shou drew his information on Wei from the weishu, so this departure is noteworthy.
The first group says that since Chen Shou chose not to follow the weishu account, he must have had a good reason. The second says that Chen Shou was influenced by personal biases and that the weishu version should be believed.
In other words, what we have here are two very reliable, historical sources (the sanguozhi and the weishu) that completely disagree on the version of events. Usually when a source disagrees with the sanguozhi, one or the other is clearly more historically valid. Unfortunately, it is not so simple in this case. Both are usually reliable sources of information, and the fact that they directly contradict each other is most uncomfortable.

Most historians do follow the sanguozhi account, but it does seem a bit hasty to discard the weishu version out of hand.
This argument appears to be heavily biased by the personal opinions of the historians. Those who have a negative view of Cao Pi (as most seem to) are happy to accept the sanguozhi account because it reinforces that opinion. They see it as more consistent with Cao Pi’s behavior and it serves as strong ammunition in their anti-Cao Pi argument. Since many historians appear to favor the state of Shu over Wei anyway, they are not of a mind to question anything that makes the founding emperor of Wei look bad.
On the other hand, those who are more sympathetic to Cao Pi (or who just want to argue against the common interpretation) favor the weishu, which paints him as a loving husband grieved by the loss of his wife.

>>171265368
>copypasting the-archlich's shoddy analysis
Literally every other recorded source besides Wang Shen's Weishu reports that Lady Zhen fell out of favor and was forced to suicide. Wang Shen clearly lied in order to avoid the unfortunate implications the suicide had on Ming-di's (and therefore the Jin Dynasty's) legitimacy.

Most people, including the-archlich, are not well-read in Chinese history and don't understand the political implications behind the writing of historiography. It's bloody obvious that Wang Shen lied because we have quotations from Imperial Edicts and other paperwork that show that Lady Zhen did not become Empress during the reign of Wen-di and was only posthumously rehabilitated by her son Ming-di.

Also, it's worth noting that you can't just dismiss Lady Zhen's death as Wen-di being temperamental. The Emperor's consorts have important political responsibilities and great power and influence; a falling out between an Emperor and a consort cannot be treated the same as an ordinary husband and wife having a fight.

>>171265368
So it's propaganda again? We just don't know which is the propaganda one.

>>171267843
Yes we do. Other parts from SGZ, particularly quotes of edicts, clearly report that Lady Zhen was not posthumously rehabilitated until the reign of her son Ming-di.

The propaganda purposes is clear. The fact that Ming-di was the son of a disgraced consort forced to suicide would call into question whether he could be a legitimate successor to Wen-di. The compiler of the Weishu, Wang Shen, was a Sima partisan and under strong political pressure to maintain Wei's appearance of legitimate succession for when the Sima made their claim of succession to Wei. Naturally he would have tried to avoid discussing the fate of Ming-di's mother, but he went too far and outright lied about what happened.

Unfortunately, most loud-mouths like the-archlich don't understand the real political situation and instead think it's attempts to slander Wen-di, which makes no sense; Emperors have the right to order the deaths of problematic consorts.

>>171268212
All these sounds like mumbo jumbo to me. Why can't we just settle everything with fire attacks?

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>>171268492
>fire attacks

>>171264014
Jesus Christ.

Nobunaga's Ambition Sphere of Influence is such a fucking slog mid game. I've got a lot of soldiers, more than any one of my neighbors- but not enough to fight all of my neighbors at once. So, I nibble away a castle at a time through a horrific bloodbath as my neighbors pounce on me as soon as any of my soldiers move.

Is there some kind of strategy to cheese this faster? Or at least win battles without losing 60% of my forces?

>>171265368
>>171267807
>>171268212
Interesting.

does anyone have webm where Xun Yu and Xu Chu laughing together and then suddenly Xun Yu spits him?

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>>171278672
Here.

>>171278758
thanks man, one of the best moments in the series.

I don't care if it's a meme, I'm really liking the open world in Toukiden 2 so far.

So if I started RotTK13's Yellow Turban scenario as Liu Bei, am I going to get tossed around a lot by the story?
I'm currently residing in Pingyuan and not sure if I should get too invested in somewhere so far from Shu's usual territory.

>>171278758
Context?

>>171280910
Whats your psn?

>>171283517
Xu Chu got told off by Cow Cow and asked Xun Yu if he could talk to Cow Cow to get his punishment lessened, even though the only reason he was alive was because Xun Yu calmed Cow Cow down before

>>171251219
Just go ahead and eat me.

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>capture of chengdu
>bgm is king of sadness
>liu shan

>>171286998
merely pretending

>>171281038
Being tossed around is liu bei's past time for like three quarters of the story.

>>171287217
Well in those two hours I beat Kong Rong up instead.
Dong Zhou died so I imagine Tao Qian giving me shit is soon.

>>171286998
I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE OF SHU, HAVING SUCH A FEEBLE-MINDED EMPEROR

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>gongsun yuan revolts
>executed
>guanqiu jian revolts
>executed
>wen qin revolts
>executed
>zhong hui revolts
>still alive at the end of it all

>>171285504
SanjimaYuh.

>>171263205
kek

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>>171268212
Why is he posthumously called Emperor Ming? Wouldn't it at least make more sense to call him Emperor Rui or something?

>>171290802
The point of a posthumous name is that it's different than the normal one, are you retarded?

>>171288647

He actually died during the rebellion so there was noone left to execute.

>>171274362
Clever tactics and diplomacy. if your neighbors all don't hate you, try to build up a little trust than ask for a ceasefire so you can focus on 1 clan at a time. For cheese strats, if you notice it takes time to switch between formations for fighting and sieging, so what you can do is let enemy siege your castles, but continual sally out so they have to change formation to attack your units, but before any actual fighting retreat back into the castle so they have to switch formations again to siege. If you do this repeatedly (like 60 times) the enemy will run out of supplies and start loosing troops.

>>171291906
should have clarified, I meant in dynasty warriors

>>171291449
I guess. I don't understand why they have posthumous names at all, or why they chose Ming in particular. Does he have any connection to the previous Emperor Ming or something?

>>171292215

Because nobody was the superior or equal of the emperor, nobody ever had the right to speak the emperor’s name. Thus, the emperor was usually referenced by a number of euphemisms most commonly translated as Son of Heaven or simply His Highness. Deceased emperors were awarded posthumous names based on qualities they displayed in life, and people referred to them by these names.

>>171293142
Was there ever an emperor given the posthumous name of "Shit" or a similar denigration?

Random Basara question.

So Story Mode for SB3 Utage is only available to the newcomers? What the fuck. Does this happen with SB4 and Sumeragi as well? Like, the characters that had story modes in the base game wont be playable in the expansion?

>>171293262
Everyone has story mode in Sumeragi iirc

But that does happen to SW4-II

>>171293142
That makes sense. Was he posthumously named Ming for any particular reason, or do they just pick a name more or less at random?

>>171293262
SB4S has everything from SB4, far as I know.

>>171293328

Damn, I bought SW4-II first. No wonder I felt the game felt really lacking.

>>171293262
Utage is an expansion without the base game's content aside from the characters, and it even changes the way some items work (now you don't craft accessories anymore, and the items you used to craft in 3 now upgrade stats and shit). You buy accessories and the base version of a weapon in the shop. Now 4 parts accessories are just one item (just like in BASARA 2). If you have a save of *JAPANESE* 3 it will export level and item data, I think, and those unique 4 parts character accessories transfer as one accessory.

Sumeragi is an expansion and it has all the content from the base game, or so people told me. I have yet to buy it.

>>171293676

Well that's disappointing with regards to Utage. I guess I have to play SB3 if I wanted the more serious story modes. Utage has better game modes though.

>>171294139
or you can just get Sumeragi

>>171294342

Yeah good point.

By the way, any news on DW9?

>>171294968
not until shit stars come out

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>>171295075
>still haven't gotten any uninterrupted direct gameplay footage

KT has no faith in this game, do they?

>/twg/ is tearing itself apart over the possibility of a total war in China, possibly the Three Kingdoms period with legendary lords
just as planned :^)

>>171295834

IIRC, there is already a Total War knock off set in ancient china on steam. Asian Dynasties was the name I think.

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>>171295834
A China total war would be pretty cool, but they'd have to do something to make it a bit interesting in the mechanics of Total War. There could be some unit variety in China, but not as much as Europe since (most) of the people in China share the same culture/military equipment.

Maybe make it so that all units you can recruit start as varieties of peasant mobs to represent the complete disorganization after the Fall of the Han. Then officers you assign/techs researched/battles the soldiers survive allow you to upgrade them to specialize (Great cavalry, pikemen, siege equipment, etcetera). Kind of like Battle Realms. Anybody ever play that? No? Okay moving along.

Otherwise, they'd need to do a whole lot of shoring up of the domestic side to make things interesting. And allow more strategies on the field of battle. Causing floods, setting fires, etcetera.

>>171296486

>Kind of like Battle Realms. Anybody ever play that?

I did. To most SEA and BR folks, Battle Realms, CS and Red Alert was literally their fucking childhood.

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>>171295834
>all the inevitable shufags that will appear
no rest for the wicked it seems

>>171297232
Battle Realms was great. Shame it never got a sequel.

>>171293250
The posthumous name "Ling" (as in the second to last Emperor of Han) pretty much means "screw-up."

The posthumous name "Yang" (last Emperor of Sui) pretty much means "lack of restraint," with another more specific interpretation as "couldn't keep it in his pants."

>>171293360
"Ming" can be interpreted to mean "enlightened, wise, wise." In common every day speech "Ming" usually means "bright." It's a very positive name.

Most posthumous names are at least nominally positive. Typically someone only gets a negative one if the next generation is openly hostile to the previous, which of course is pretty rare occurrence. But even the negative ones are rather euphemistic. For example, in common everyday speech the "Ling" in Ling-di usually means "ghost, spirit," and the "Yang" in Yang-di usually means "melted [metal]." The alternative meanings when used as posthumous names come from literary references to ancient canon books.

>>171296486
FIRE ATTACKS?!

>>171293142
This can get annoying as hell sometimes if the Emperor has a common word for a name. The annotated SGZ is littered with notes that basically say: "This word should actually be Zhao but was changed to avoid the taboo [on the name Sima Zhao]." An annotation to HHS claims that Cai Wenji should be Cai Zhaoji too.

Most Emperors ended up having rare words as their name or even changed their name (Wei Yuan-di Cao Huang's name was changed to Huan) for this reason. Sun Xiu went all the way by coming up with completely new words for his children's names (though ironically none of them ended up becoming Emperor).

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Do you guys have go-to secondary weapon in DW?

I've tried mixing it up for a while, but I've gotten to the point where my secondary is always the chain and sickle so long as it has four star compatibility. It's just so fun even if it seems like there are more effective weapons.

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Is it just me or does his english voice actor sound slightly irish?

>>171251219
Huang Zhong
Pang Tong
Jia Chong

I hate fucking realizing I'm mostly a Shu fag
It's like looking at the evidence and finding out you're a closet fag

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You're at the war council and this guy comes up and slaps your sworn brother's ass. What do you do?

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>>171303390

>>171303390
Warn my lord that he's going to steal his land, then call him fatuous and commit suicide when he doesn't listen.

>>171296486
Oh shit, I played the fuck out of it back then in middle school, this kind of game was the rage

>>171300837
Whatever it is, it makes him sound like a wimp.

>>171300262
I always do it like this:
>Character with big ex weapon----Secondary weapon that's also big
>Character with small ex weapon----Secondary weapon that's also small

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Who would Hitler support in ROTK13, around what era?

What should his stats and traits be like?

Asking for a friend

>>171311145
>RotK13
He's kinda fucked up because Cha is no longer a thing, and the rest of the stats should be around Han Xuan's level

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>>171311314
Fair enough. Can you help me pick a portrait? Importing one from somewhere else might seem off-putting, but I can't find one that's just right.

>>171311314
>the rest of the stats should be around Han Xuan's level
>22 LDR
>33 WAR
>7 INT
>4 GOV

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>>171311686

>>171312642
kek

ANOTHER NOTCH ON MY GREAT AXE!

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After showing up at a time like this, is he actually cool?

>>171316493
>you will never smack this stupid bitch in the face after he says something gay or cringey

Why live brehs?

I'm sad /eagg/.

>>171319039
Why?

>>171319039
Fuck you.

>>171319039
>tfw no dadudu ;_;

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>>171319039
Don't be sad, friendo

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>10

>>171316493
his weapon is awful

>>171326480
And his hair.

And his personality.

And his stupid fucking face.

>>171326480
>>171326548
There's room for this kind of character in DW. But since he is ALL OVER THE PLACE since the very beginning of Cao Cao's campaigns, he really starts to grate on the nerves.

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This is your shu han for tonight

>>171327661
>Guan Yu
>Without his beard

They aren't even trying.

>>171327661
Those looks like the faggiest zhang fei and liu bei ever.
Out of curiosity, source?

>>171326905
DW has been shit since it just became a fujo pandering fuccboi fest. It was better when there was more of a focus on realism and manliness.

>>171327939
At least he's still pretty manly, the other 2 are full bishonen.

>>171327661
Liu Bei looks pretty autistic.

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>>171327661
>no facial hair

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Reminder that a woman pursued Lu Bu long enough for best girl to appear

>>171329123
Lu Bu did all the pursuing, I'm sure.

And now I shall pursue Lu Linqi and keep the bloodline going.

>>171329123
Lu Bu out a lot of importance into advice from his wife. Too much, since it ended up getting him into trouble when he listened to her instead of his own generals. You can't really blame her since Lu Bu had a history of following the wrong person's advice, but it still messed him up good.

>>171329123
I want to steal her red feathers.

>>171300262
the same EX weapon for that character

weapon switching is dumb

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>Page 10

>>171329123
I wonder what happened to her after Xiapi

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>>171329123
>these three had to raise a small child

>>171337343
Considering she's fictional, whatever you want to imagine.

Or do you mean what happened to the historical Lü Bu's family? Presumably they ended up under government custody like with Chen Gong's and Yuan Shao's families.