/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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3rd for lurking from the 4chan

>>171074784
>ladders
goodbye marek, get gassed your game is done for
we can make vertical ships now

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>>171075029
Variable gravity too. Which spengies has but you don't need to open a control panel for it.

>>171075094
waaaait a minute, so you are saying with the programming, we can basically simulate acceleration based gravity?

mfw I was going to go to bed two hours ago but the Skywanderers hype got to me and now I have no face

>>171075094
Will gravity cannons be viable in Skywanderers? It would really be kicking spengie's carcass then.

>>171075437
No idea.

>>171075617
Goddamn that is a fine specimen

>>171075596
BUT WILL IT HAVE engineering

>>171076136
It has rotors, sliders, etc. Yes

>>171076136
It has logic gates already.

>>171076253
>>170996872 >>170996096

>>171076376
YUSSSS

>>171076359
>>171076172
Clear your name field you gigantic cock goblin

sorry I am asleep

where were you when the eggppocolypse began

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>>171076172
>>171076253
Oh damn, I might have to start lurking regularly again for this shit.

we're gonna end up like /kspg/ at this rate

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>>171074784
Well guys, machinecraft anon was right, you can literally do anything in machinecraft. As it turns out you can write C# userscripts that modify the underlying Unity objects. Anything that is possible in Unity can be done in machinecraft, even flying around 10178 km/h without thrusters.

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Retoasting from last bread. Is there a solution for staggered fire or do I have to go supplicate to Nick on the forums?

Skywanderers is literally minecraft with rotors

If you're allergic to spengies, I'd recommend the cheap-o knock off empyrion

>>171078332
Holy shit.
I mean it's machinecraft, but still that's pretty impressive.

>>171078680
You want the lasers to alternate? For what purpose?

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Reminder to put an "Identity Block" on the ship you're building so you won't lose it. Then hit F1 to save the game. The game won't save your ship if it doesn't have an identity block.

>>171080320
and how would we play this exactly?

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>>171079653
not that anon but stagger fire is very fun

>>171080487
You join the discord linked in the last thread and fill out the google doc form linked in said discord.

>>171078680
set a delay on one of the combiners or something

>>171080487
At least 10 eggmen got the test version

Not that there's much to look at, so I won't even bother leaking it, no point

>>171080575
Eh I want to play sky wankers but I'm not joining some faggy discord

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>>171080730
>Eh I want to play sky wankers but I'm not joining some faggy discord

>>171080759
>join discord
>obtain game
>Mute discord serb

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i got sick of building the oversized air bb so i ended up building another one from scratch, introducing the smoll big bote!

>>171080730
>Eh I want to play sky wankers
You really don't, not for years and years, provided frogdev doesn't get bored and goes to snort coke from buxom french whore bussoms

>>171080826
Noice

>>171080826
Doesn't look that much smaller. Pretty sweet shape though.

So, what's our current Space Voxel Game rundown, /egg/

Spengies:
>90% feature complete
>good grafix
>mod support
>KEEN breaks the game on a weekly basis
>performance is nearing acceptable levels for the first time in years
>netcode is still trash
>will always be trash
>simspeed will always be lost, like tears ion rain
>spengies will never be good and will always be the best we got

Empyrion:
>barely 30% feature complete
>runs okay
>netcode is acceptable
>bugs up the ass
>no engineering
>flat planets
>rust in space
>hide and seek simulator
>shit PvP and shipbuilding meta
>no collisions
>cheap spengie clone to cash in on goyims fleeing the sinking KEENship

Starmade
>???

Abortion
>no netcode
>brutalist architecture simulator
>???

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>>171080894
thanks!
>>171080997
it's actually a lot smaller, at 120+ meters in length while the other one was 180+ meters long

>>171081290
>Empyrion
Do people actually play it?

>>171081290
Avorion is basically X but you can make your own ship according to people who have played X.

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>>171081412
Jesus christ, that's a pretty large insult to X.

>>171081367
Yeah, /egg/ played shitloads of it. Invalid is the sole survivor.

>>171081492
Not my words, never played any of the X games.
I think they mentioned X3 specifically.

>>171081492
>batteries in spengies still don't recharge/discharge as needed

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=875717459
Skywankers is on greenlight if you want to vote

>>171082009
>implying there's any need

Have you seen the dog shit that gets greenlit?

>>171082592
it still need people to click on it, and the dev is in real need of PR

at least from what he says on the discord

when the building starts
the autism is soothed

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>>171083732
Not engineering but have some pixel art in SW, WIP.

Can you guess what its going to be?

Is REM laggy?

>>171085194
doggo girl

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I'll try to get the other one moving in opposite direction

>>171085575
>that joyous 0.1 sim speed drop

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>>171085651
>>171085640
NuHulk: 100 m/s
OldHulk: on thruster override at 50+ m/s

>>171065402
>wish
http://store.steampowered.com/app/254320

too bad it looks like shit

>>171086419
>needing anything else for space spooks
http://store.steampowered.com/app/238210/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYgUfr9XeI

>>171086419
>too bad it looks like shit

Looks aren't the problem, anon, its the totally vapid gameplay and shallow as shit content.

>>171086606
I wasn't talking about the graphics, anon.

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>>171086138

No it isn't Mort you spud

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>>171089854

what do you guys think about spengos devs/update guy thinking about replacing ftl jump with warp travel (simillar to star citizen)?

imo it's shit, ftl jumping fits the bs:g theme and is underutilized in media/gaems

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>>171090695
>Faster ships
There's no fucking way we can have this without lag. Keen is too incompetent.

>>171090824
the speedlimit would still be 100m/s, just the jumpdrive would be replaced with some quantum travellator or sth
you used to be able to jump "over" obstacles, if your destination had 2km sphere of space somewhere, now i think there's some checking if your path is clear, next thing will be some shitty animation

>>171091492
So it's the same thing with different effects? Lame.

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>>171088563
Oh, if you insist

Is there any way to set a space engi battery to ONLY charge off of solar and to ignore reactors?

>>171092002
[laughing astronauts.JPEG]

>>171092002
Besides disabling reactors or splitting the grids? Ubless there's a script for that, nooo.

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>>171091886
saved, thank you anon

>>171092002
you cant chose where is the energy being drained off, cant remember if there are mods for that.

>>171071618
It's both. The AI can't hit shit that's not moving straight, but the weapons are so powerful compared to armor that you can't afford to get hit.

Does anybody use the Floor Plan Script for Space Engineers?
How do I get it to display one floor plan across multiple panels? It says there's a way to do it on the steam workshop page, but the image that shows how to do it isn't there anymore. Something to do with the custom data on the programming block.

>>171078680
2 Seperate lasers, one with no q switches, one with some q switches?

>>171094218
Or how about, seperate lasers, ai weapon controls turned on and off by timer ACBs? or... soemthing.

>>171081324
Out of curiosity, what is the material cost of these bad boys?

>>171094047
There is another script-mod for multiple screens.

>>171094446
the big one is 354k and counting if i ever bother finishiing it
the one on the right is 277k

>>171094490
Could you give me the name, please?

>>171081492
Avorion goes in direction of X i'd say. It's the X wannabe at the moment. It licks the surface and let's you design fancy ships that are ALSO functional. Weapons system needs to get bigger and more varied though. Some more thought in systems and energy managment wouldn't hurt either but I'll wait patiently for all of that. Avorion is quite fresh.

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>/egg/ barges into a dev discord
Behave yourselves.

>>171097762
We actually appreciate you guys being in there. Much more lively.

>>171097284
>more varied
They are more of a "shape" that the damage will take.
There are projectile, beam, missile and spherical pulse weapons, what other type would you add that wouldn't be the mix of the aforementioned?

>>171098113
Are you sure? The minecraft models suggest you want the normie audience and we're pretty scary

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>>171097762
Sky is for wanking, not behaving

>>171098239
... You guys are actually tame when compared to some autistic minecraft fanbois I've had the """pleasure""" to interact with. Y'all cool.

>>171097284
the dev is going to tackle energy management soon from what I heard. And the weapons are also getting reworked

>>171098113
Daily reminder for normies to vacate the thread immediately

>>171098401
this
prepare the spengos windmills of doom

>>171098239
the normie models are temporary, the dev isn't an artist :|

>>171098229
Oh yea, I wasn't clear on it. I meant the very shape of the weapons. There's already bunch of stuff that's for sure.

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bow before the OP cuck-crab

>>171098725
what gaem

>>171098815
robitkrafto

>>171098815
Mike "Zap the Gays With Tesla Rays" Pence

>>171098725
perfect 5/7

needs digital camo with pink base, desu. add some gray and white

>>171098815
robocuck

>>171099163
Abortion

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i tried to make it take on a meteor and it didn't go well
on the bright side the lasers never actually penetrated the thickest part of the armour

>>171096334
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=795436803
You want this one?

>>171100189
I've seen that one, and it does look pretty cool. I figured out how to get the floor plan script to work how I wanted. Maybe I can use both!

>>171100490
for the 2d one, the simple solution is to run 2 or more scripts at the same time and place them so they align wich each other.
If that is the solution you found.

>>171098948
>Mike "Zap the Gays With Tesla Rays" Pence
That's breddy good actually

DED

>>171100887
https://youtu.be/OCCjzN8Mghc

>>171102505
>Mike "Turning Fruits into Vegetables" Pence
subtle kek

>>171103674
definitely needs anti aliasing

>>171103934
Agreed. Hopefully some good anti aliasing and not FXAA.

>>171103997
I heard the dev was trying to add TAA. Hell I'd be happy with MSAA even

>>171104101
Temporal Anti-Aliasing was shit in ArcheAge

>>171104298
Also generally just shit.

Supersampling best antialiasing
Get a 4k rig

>>171103934
is there an ascii mode?

>nick wants to remove multiplay

hahaha what the FUCK

the memes write the reality

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What Space Engineer servers do you play on?

I started with a few different ones, then went to fountain core. Lost a giant Death Cube because it clanged jumped me into Earth gravity. Then I went to Franky's Space. Had some fun, now I can't play because I'm studying. Sorry for the trouble Grim if you read this.

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>>171108325
I miss you Death Cube 2.

>>171085194
AWOOO!

>>171106965
>unified the resources to only one kind
>unifying the players to only one
When will he unify the dev team, or is that why N3X got laid off?

>>171085194
>>171108961
https://youtu.be/RKCi7it5NKQ

>>171108325
i used to go to epoch playgrounds, bretty cool, used rotors and pistons did not encounter clang
gave up after my main shippo got cleaned, maybe i'll go back to it

I was thinking about joining the eggserb but it's on stable, so no. warbros serb is rip, sources tell me it may be for good (i am doubtful)

>>171109339
Skylife was a mistake, don't go there.

>>171109339
If keen ever fixes their shit, I can almost guarantee the resurrection of the Adidas slavserb, and possibly even get Ced to come back.

>>171108981
At this rate, he'll end up unifying all the playerbase into one

>>171109746
you mean, he unified the developer team and playerbase

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>>171110160
Early access already did that.

>>171110160
precisely

>>171109704
That said, it would be 100%reliant on the astronomicaly distant occurrence of keen fixing their shit

>>171109398
yea, heard about admin admining the earth to clang
but the biggest thing that deters me is it's on stable!

>>171110776
More like unstable. Yeah it's shit and so is the serb

>>171110776
What's wrong with stable?
Not enough lens flare?

>>171110854
Correct

So how do we get into skywankers. We just ask on the discord? i've been searching for the form but it seems to be closed.

>>171110854
>when the dev branch is more stable than the stable branch

>>171111548
It was open to egg for a couple hours. The dev has to go through all the submissions by hand. I don't think he likes doing anything that's not programming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCiMO8HIi9E

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>>171111907
branches are over.
Now will be able to "roll back" like minecraft does.
Patches every week, and major updates every now and then.
No more stable...

>>171111935
okay, i won't bother him.

>>171112884
PM him shiny ships you've built

>>171109339
This: >>171109704 is correct. With this >>171110407 caveat.

t. Ced

>>171111548
This: >>171111935 is also correct. To quote the dude: "I hate PR. Just let me code my goddamn game." I can appreciate autism of that flavour. But this >>171112983 might make him happy. He likes spees shaps.

>>171113082
We miss you Ced

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gibe tsunamayo lots of gud spess shap

>>171113397
You know I am never all that far away. I am still watching. And even if neither Abortion, nor any of the other memegames (Planet Nofags, Dual Citizenship, Osiris: New Pawn...) help(ed) to fill the gap, I am still here, hovering, waiting for a chance to get a serbian back up and running. And something tells me, Keo isn't too adverse to helping with that, either.

If it's not cancer-inducing shit-tier of effort to keep basic game functions like "logging in" or "running for longer than 30 minutes" available, that is.

>>171113560
But i don't have many gud spess shaps. I mostly have botes.

>>171113721
He wants a Yamato for the Japanese/weeb audience.

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>>171113851
Does this unfinished crap count (not as a Yamato, of course)?

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remove physician

>>171115517
skywankers in a nutshell kek

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>>171115728

>>171115517
But that's compsci, not physics.
Why the fuck would you take compsci if you wanted to build spaceships?

With Spengies can I fly around and mine and trade and build my ship (internals too)?

Looking for ETS2 in space basically but with the added bonus of mining and building my ships. (I tried Avorion but I'd like to be able to build the inside of my ships and walk around in them)

I just wanna be comfy.

>>171116218
>With Spengies can I fly around and mine and trade and build my ship (internals too)?
>trade, in Spengies
KEK
E
K

You can fly around, mine and build your ship (internals included) though

>>171116308
Close enough I guess.

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>>171116218
No but I'm sure machinecraft-anon can hook you up
(^:

>>171116105
>Why the fuck would you take compsci if you wanted to build spaceships?
To make an /egg/ game to build spaceships in? Come on anon, don't be so dense, you'll sink to the Earth's core.

>>171074784
What's a good single-player mech. eng. simulator? Preferably one which isn't fixated on combat.

>>171118102
Solidworks 2017
http://www.solidworks.co.uk/beta/

it's even in Beta so we can feel right at home

>>171106965
http://www.fromthedepthsgame.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=26275
jesus fucking christ it's true

I dont have a log in, whats the current tally?

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>>171119954
From the depths you came, back to the depths you go

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>>171120185

>>171118102
Gearblocks, or CADs like algodoo.

>tfw i'm baguette
>even i am triggered by the accent in the gameplay videos

Mfw skywanderers doesn't work on my shit GPU because Unity also a shit.

I'm not missing much.... r-right guys?

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>go into skywankers discord
>start talking about kerbal

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You guys are gonna RIP this discord with no survivors

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>>171123163
>out of context

>>171120185
Didn't he do this with the resource system?
Didn't people vote not to change it?

Didn't he tell his player base to fuck themselves?
And didn't they proceed to felate him?

>>171123596
There was a lot of dissent, but the ones who called him out seem to have stopped posting on the forums. Make of that what you will.

Catfugger is in the Discord.

>>171123596
Didn't something similar happen with 95% of the indie games that have forums?
I mean, look at robocraft or starbound.

>>171124273
He's in the thread too

>>171124695
well of course i'm in the thread why wouldn't i be in the thread

>>171124825
ree

>>171125057
:^)

>>171124273
You can at least mute or block him there, I'm sure.

Why do kspgfags always have to ruin shit
Apologies to devs please don't kick us out

>>171126957
you could just apologize in the actual discord

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>robocucks forum gets multiple concerned posters about hackers with boosted stats and oddities with damage numbers
>turns out lead dipshit was doing some social "experiment" on win rates effecting player retention and giving massive stat boosts to a subset of new players so that they'd win more often
http://robocraftgame.com/forums/topic/ab-testing-win-rates-of-new-users/

The absolute fucking madman!

>>171108667
>making literal fucking cube ship
You'll enjoy empyrion

>>171128590
>laughing girls.gif
sakamoto is not for genderbending, thanks

>>171116218
>Looking for ETS2 in space
Elite is literally that

Spengies is about spending 2 hours to accomplish a simple task, only to fail due to a combination of physics bugs and incompetence

>>171129186
don't expect much from katfugger

>>171129454
Catfucker has a really sloppy posting style you nog, and obviously doesn't play robocuck.
Don't start throwing around words you don't understand.

>>171128590
>Received a damage and health buff which faded away over their first 20 battles, 5% at a time
That's a fucking 100% boost, holy shit. They were literally doubling (quadrupling?) The strength of new players. What a shitty experiment.

>>171129725
>What a shitty experiment.
It had the robocraft devs' seal of quality

>>171118102
Literally just CAD software. CAD software can simulate stuff game engines can't like concave bodies.

IE game engines can't handle stuff like pins going into holes

>>171129725
Why... Fucking why... You can't mess with balance like that without fucking people over.... I don't play this shit to begin with, but that's insane

>>171130214
They're play testing for a new premium option that gives you stat boosts.

>>171130857
ROBO
C U C K S

>>171130857
>Our game is slowly dying
>Let's make some drastic changes that will alienate half of our remaining playerbase

Pottery

>>171132062
every time.

>>171132305
>Robocuck manager meeting
>Lol how can we make our game more interesting???
>"Lets make half the new players buffed as fuck so they have a good time XD"
>That's brilliant, A+!!! You're promoted!!!

>>171132062
More leik
>our game is dying
>lets bankroll it and split
Seems perfectly logical to me

>>171132743
From a business standpoint, you're absolutely right

>>171132867
Freejam are in it for the money. Nick is in it for the art (he is also a giant pillock, like most artists). KEEN are in it because machevialianism and schadenfreude.

You guys got catrapist banned from that discord, right? Just explain the relationship we have with that cabal of walking human feces and to be happy that they can at least reliably ban them.

>>171133337
>133337
Nice

>>171133337
catfugger hasn't been banned. Should him though? He only posted one picture

>>171133337
>/egg/ is eggstra /ded/ tonight because the most prolific shitposter are busy shitposting in plebbitcord
They are also lurking our thread

>>171133505
The only thing he 'should' be is hunted down and killed, but yes, he ought to be banned.

>>171133643
why

>>171133712
why not?

>>171133505
actually i posted two, but they're both just memes and not cat penis

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>>171133712
because he's trash

>>171133924
why don't you come to the discord and say that to my face fgt

>The Eggspanse Season 02 / Episode 08
>Airs in 4 hours and 17 minutes on Syfy
Kinda wanna sleep now, what do

Also daily reminder to torrent Space rip, a fucking leaf channel where they air it uncensored

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SPAGHETTI CHATMIN LEAVE


jk bud

>>171134026
Because then he would be known as "That faggot who tried to talk to the even worse faggot"

>>171135058
but people have already talked to me
including the admin
he's a cool dude

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I maek plane.

It seems to be the only thing I'm good at; though to be honest everything I want to make seems to be hiding behind unfinished features.

Missile gauge when?

Better subvehicle management/docking when?

New AI when?

The close one is the Carwennen, it's a 1300 cost carrier-deck take off interceptor with an AP-HE belt-fed autocannon.

Far one is the Caliburn, a 1100 cost carrier-deck take off bomber that drops APN guided explosive frag bombs. Both of these suckers fly at a decent 90+ m/s.

I've been working on carriers to launch these from, but I keep getting sidetracked.

No, catfucker. None of the multiple anons talking shit to you are in the server.

>>171135223
oh

>>171135159
>Missile gauge when?
We have been told that soon

>Better subvehicle management/docking when?
Soon

>New AI when?
Guess what? Yeah, soon

Is hydrogen fuel supposed to burn this fast?
I have 26K ice and I can chew through it in 5 minutes of burn with 2 ultra tiny thrusters.

>>171135159
Those look like they'd disintegrate if you so much as look at them funny.

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>>171135384
Somehow you've managed to be less helpful than the official forums. I'm not mad, I'm just impressed.

>>171135534
They're ultra-light by design, and yeah that does mean they tend to go kablooie if they're hit by a direct flak or missile hit. They're stupid resource efficient though thanks to their dodgy flight paths and speed. These are definitely super-early game.

This is the smallest carrier I've almost finished for the suckers. Really I hate the design and need to probably take another crack at it.

>>171135847
>Somehow you've managed to be less helpful than the official forums. I'm not mad, I'm just impressed.
Well, i tried my best.

Anyways, if you want more info...
>Missile gauge when?
If i'm not mistaken, sometime ago we were told that we'd be able to change missile size in a patch that was coming soon.
That patch came, and it brought particle cannons, but no missile gauge in sight.

>Better subvehicle management/docking when?
subvehicles and docking work, so this is not in Nick's priority list, i don't expect this (or nested turrets anyways) sooner than 2019

>New AI when?
This is the one that's most probably going to change one of these days. Maybe not making it better, but adding a new functionality, like detection some patches ago

>>171135426
By weight, Ice is 89% oxygen.

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>>171135159
>everything I want to make seems to be hiding behind unfinished features
God I know that feel all too well.
>nested turrets never
>proper balancing of steam engines never
>not shitty shield system never
At least we'll always have tiny planes.

>>171136604
So what you're saying is I should ditch the ice and switch to hydrogen tanks? The wiki says I should only be burning like 500 ice an hour.

>>171135426
Get 3 hydrogen tanks, 2 in use, 1 on stockpile. 2-4 oxygen generators per tank. You'll need lots of ice to fill those things, so incorporate a piston + drill or a mining drone into your ship.

>>171136604
Getting hydrogen by separating it from water is idiotic anyway. You can just SUCC a gas giant for millenia and use a fraction of energy required for other methods.

>>171137479
Tanks are required for hydrogen thrusters. It's extremely ice hungry, filling up 1 tank to 100% is at least 300k ice. The tank will last decently long in space and won't last at all on blaneds.

>>171137479
One full large grid hydrogen tank can fuel a large grid large thruster for 6.48 minutes

One full largegrid tank can burn two large grid small thrusters for 19.06 minutes

1kg ice in a large grid produces 9L of H, meaning you have 234,000L A large tank holds 2.5million L

That's enough for two largegrid small thrusters to burn for 1.78 minutes

>>171138184
I'll also add, large grid oxygen generators produce 501 H/second

Large small thrusters burn 1092.5/second

>>171138327
Small grid:

1kg ice makes 4H at 166H/second
small thruster burns 109.2/s, so that's 218.4/s for you

26k ice at maximum burn in a small grid with two small thrusters should last almost 8 minutes. T small tank can hold 80,000L, lasting just over 6 minutes

>>171138184
I'm only using a pair of super tiny thrusters. The guide says that should burn 220H per hour, but I easily gulp down 400 ice in a few seconds.

>>171138917
>1
Make sure you're reading that right. On a small grid, small thrusters burn 109.2H per second.

>>171137802
>>You can just SUCC a gas giant for millenia and use a fraction of energy required for other methods.
>tfw no gas giants to succ
I had a similar idea, I wanted to make an oxygen tanker built to go in and out of Earth, with a fuckton of oxygen tanks and vents on the outside set to depressurize and just succ atmosphere until full, and then spesstrukk it back to a base. But this talk about bringing the succ to a gas giant for hydrogen would be pretty sweet for trucking too, and probably much more useful than hauling atmo.

>>171138989
oohhhh. Damn. That gets expensive pretty fast. Well I'm only using them as mining ship afterburners so it's not too bad.

>>171139397
Their only decent uses are to get from surface to orbit or for short bursts of boosted acceleration i.e, spacebrakes or afterburners.

>>171139312
Ayylium planet should have high hydrogen atmosphere. At least there'll be a reason to go there. Flying agile hydrogen dogfighters with infinite fuel.

>>171139587
Meh, as long as you have several million ice stockpiled on an ice moon, have multiple oxygen generators, and carry 300k+ ice with you at all times, and also use ions/atmos for assistant propulsion you can enjoy the massive thrustage and not worry about fuel that much.

Hydrogen thrusters are best thrusters because they're not magic blocks that make you fly, they need fuel and proper placing and tubing.

>>171140302
There's no magic behind running 50 thousand refineries to process enough platinum to build a single big thruster. That part is pure grind.

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>page 9

I'm bored of normal Factorio and want to do it with Bob's mod, is there a pack somewhere or do I have to download every one individually?

>>171146201
Download each one individually via the in game mod browser.
Please to not bring modpack cancer to comfy factorio.

>>171140302
>H as a primary fuel source
84kN per kg of ice vs 1,071kN per kg of U
per kg of fuel, U has over 100,000 as long a burn time as H

One large reactor can run 8 large ions, with an hour of fuel comes to about 0.06867 kN/kg and 219 blocks, 131.5kN/block
One large H thruster needs 13 generators to run, with an hour of fuel comes to 0.07193 kN/kg, it takes about 5 of these to match the thrust output of the ions, for 265 blocks, 113kN/block

It takes more than two tanks, I'll just call it two, to burn a large H for 15 minutes, 81 blocks, 0.258 kN/kg, 74kN/block
For similar thrust takes 3 batteries to fully power a large ion for 15 minutes if I'm doing this right, 54 blocks, 0.06235 kN/kg, 133kN/block

>>171147316
All measurements are quite rounded for simpler maths, and are all based on larger, more efficient blocks***

>>171146069
Underground pipes make this too easy

>>171148679
Just like your mom.

>>171148832
what does my mom have to do with designing utilities infrastructure?

>>171148832
No anon, it's your mom who's really good at laying pipe.

>>171148940
>>171148973
nononono. anons mom is easy to lay. Underground

>>171148940
Your mom is a public utility.

>>171150261
at least my mom's not PAGE 10

>>171153558
You sure?

>Captcha: Eggs open

>>171153541
Usually this type of immediate screencapfaggotry is super cringey, but that is actually a pretty funny representation

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Alright, my goal is to make a really compact twin 6-barrel 88-122ish mm autocannon that has a capacity of 20-30 rounds that it can fire in less than 5 seconds.
It's going to be used in a static defense turret so I'm disregarding recoil for now.
Wish me luck.

>>171157946
Another goal is that the rounds must be powerful enough to destroy a lone metal 4m beam in 1 shot, and 2 shots for stacked beams, then only fatass heavily armored airships, planes or tanks will be able to shrug off the damage being caused.

What spengies serb are we playing on and how do I hook up with you faggots

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>>171159716
Serb got abandoned after some stupid shit went down and everything got wiped. No new serb has been decided on, so I dunno if everyone is just done or what.

>>171161058
We have the hulk blueprints
We can rebuilt it
stronger
bigger

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are all tiers as retarded?

>>171162538
>>>>/wowsg/

>>171162525
New serb when

>>171162818
When someone convinces Immortan Ced to host another one.

>>171162602
but it's all just anime girl shit

I am an African, living the trap life

>Captcha: Fiscal lelcel

>>171163485
>implying shamikaze isn't best girl, period

>>171164968
This is why we can't have /wowsg/ things

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>>171164968

>>171164968
who is best boy

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>>171165316
You

>>171165960
>Porsch

>>171079305
but is Empyrion any good?

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Threadly reminder to
DO YOUR PART

>>171165316
>>171165445
You guys are fags but that was adorable

>>171098351
energy management is already fixed in the beta. you can toggle individual systems now

>>171165960
What epic kspg meme is this?

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>>171167004
DELTE

>>171167084
I already reported it, just asking what it has to do with literally anything

>>171167084
Trip, what the fuck is your issue, anyway?

space x seem to be launching something now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZmqbL-hz7U

>>171167434
>no landing
well fuck that

>>171162818
We can just go back to the old one though

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>>171167434
>Space X launch
Oh boy i cant wait.

>>171116308
Mind you, it's perfectly possible to trade with other players.
Each player fills a cargo container with their part of the deal, then meet at an arranged spot, and exchange cargo containers.
Done deal.

That is if one of them isn't lugging around a fuckton of turrets, armed backup ready to warp in, or just a plain old empty container.

Page 8..... I bump because I care

>>171121353
You have time to get a new gpu. Currently the game is just building.

>>171147316
>One large H thruster needs 13 generators to run
It only needs one, and a suitably large buffer.
The assumption that any thruster will be active 24/7 is absurd.

>>171119954
>All that dev cocksucking
Yuck.

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...

>>171172018
GAS GAAAS GAAAAAAAAAAAS

>>171172018
>>171172064
Flamethrower weapon when?
>inb4: smoke emitter
Premium and pseudo-"DLC" are cancer.

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Good night /egg/

>>171172387
>stage 4 weight reduction

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>Keen will never fix spengos
>FTD dev is the wrong type of autism
>Abortion
>Starmad

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>>171172387
>my breaks are squealing, so I'll just bend these annoying things out of the way and go back to texting my girlfriends!~

>>171176863
My neighbor oiled and greased his squeaky brakes

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>>171177951
Its a shame he didn't get into an accident.

>>171178008
I think he had to get his car towed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLhoXNQqrCmEfAaTf0AfQ1Ztxmz2DoZiCk&v=Rb37-daSLQ4

>>171172207
Just script it in yourself anything is possible in machinecraft.

>>171181083
>anything is possible in machinecraft.
Can I turn it into a dating sim?

>>171181168
Yes and it is probably easier than you think.

>>171181574
>Hans get the gas
>gas appears
>True love can blossom on the battlefield

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>>171181168
depends on what kind

>>171170612
The point I was making is that you're going to have to actively refuel your ship constantly, and it's going to be significantly more massive than using ions for basic space travel. Those numbers don't take into account the extra gyros you're going to need for similar mobility, conveyor systems, extra armoring, etc. And the more fuel you want to keep on hand, the less efficient Hydrogen is going to be compared to Uranium.

>>171182660
Additionally, it takes almost an hour and a half for a single generator to fill one tank.

tell me about space engineers lads

>>171182660
>>171183173
I understand your points. Great argumentation. By the way, while we're simplifying games, let's remove belts from factorio and give players drones from the very start.
But really, eveyone has their preferences, you may crunch numbers as much as you want, I'll still go with hybrid thrust that bases on h2 tanks.
Except that one anon that posts spengoface with "stop using hydrogen thrusters", he is clearly wrong in everything he does.

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>>171183648

>>171183651
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to never use H

Its just a silly choice for primary thrust.

>>171183965
Guess I'm silly then.
>>171183648
Very comfy, perfect gaem, much /egg/.
Especially if your hobbies include crying into a pillow.

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>>171184081
>Especially if your hobbies include crying into a pillow.

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Post your inspiration / "i'm gonna make it someday" pics!

>>171183965
hydrogen is comfy though
I think it's fun to have some kind of fuel to manage instead of ion thrust just being nearly infinite with basic resource gathering

>>171184081
The silliest

Is there any truth to the thought that this whole "placed blocks gain the velocity of the player" situation is gonna just result in people hocking the biggest placable item they can while jetpacking around at max speed?

>>171184917
unless they take time to weld it then it will still have relatively minimal mass unless they're in creative mode at which point it wouldn't matter

>>171184917
Some truth, but it was already possible in creative if you could whip your mouse fast enough and in survival the unfinished blocks have smaller mass iirc. The problem only arises when people are gonna jetpack at max speed, place a refinery, then weld it in flight.

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>>171184736
Just waiting for that perfect civil engineering game.

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>>171184736

>>171185271
1) this looks printed, me wanna
2) reminds me of the towerdefence game creepworld or sth

>>171185095
That - That sounds like a fucking amazing idea.

>>171185732
To make it cheaper, weld only the first 1k or 1.1k steel plates (I have no idea if weight changes if components are in block, but not welded up)

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>>171184736

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>>171185630
>creepworld
The greatest of fucking turret creep games

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>>171185954

>The "x5" / "x10" inventory setting will also have an effect on the calculation.
The game will divide the cargo mass by the set inventory multiplier when calculating thruster lift.
WELL SHIT
I THOUGHT PLAYING IN 10X WAS INFEASIBLE
Well, my designs will be just as effective with how I'm doing things so its not that bad.

>>171186647
Dople shit.

According to my maths, you need like 14 large hydrogen thrusters to lift an effective mass of 9million kg in earth gravity.
In practice, I only need two.
Watafak?

421,875L/0.047= ~8,976,063kg

F/M=A
Needs 90mil N to hover in gravity, 15 large Hydros

>>171187376
where do you get your thrust values from?
where do you get the mass from? (if from ingame counter, then check the inventory multiplier)

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>>171183965
>Its just a silly choice for primary thrust.

>>171187576
>where do you get your thrust values from?
Thruster override values probably. Not sure if override max is same as regular thrust tho or if it's overdrive as well as override. Large H has 9 MEGA Newtons of thrust, or 15 second burn gets a modest ship to 250 m/s.

>>171187776
I'd take them from thruster override, but there are some individuals here that rely on the "wiki".
>>171187656
But I already admitted I am being silly.
Still my point hasn't been answered.
Are you a silly cartoonist?

Anyone tried blast door cogs in spengineers? Someone throw me an idea that would utilize them.

>>171187576
Large cargo container holds ~420,000L
Platinum is 1kg/0.04L
Large hydros output 6,000,000N

My tests have been in creative mode, where it doesn't let you select inventory multiplier, but in 1x, ~9mil kg platinum inside a large cargo should simulate effective mass of a full box across all multipliers

>>171188065
A silly space elevator

>>171188068
>My tests have been in creative mode
There's your problem, creative messes up weight of items, since it has unlimited cargo space.

>>171188164
Shite. I was hoping it would behave like 1x. I guess I have to take my tests into survival or something.

15 Large Hydros would be utterly retarded to just get lift.

Haven't played spingas in ages
Is 9 million platinum considered a lot?

>>171188602
Yes

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>open robocuck
>time to do my monthly check to see if its fun yet
>"we're currently having minor issues with joining the que"
>o-okay
>load up plane I built for propellers and never used
>join que
>...
>get kicked off
>okay
>load AI match
>the announcer from tf2 gets drunk and shouts at me
>SHOOT DA EMENY
>BATTUL OF SPITZUR DAAAM
>o-okay
>start
>fly for 3 seconds
>start getting shot at
>whatdafuq
>the AI knows where you are at all times
>hmm
>break ai pathfinding by flying overtop a bit of a hill
>the tank shooting at me flips over
>attempts to right itself
>the game picks it up then slams it back down
>okay
>laser is pinned to my ass
>oh cool, the AI uses rails
>completely misses a slow moving low altitude plane
>huh
>turns out they didn't fucking bother with any amount of target leading
>abuse the shit out of this by flying slightly higher
>untouched for 10 mins
>notice 2 AI sitting in enemy base
>hmm?
>zoom in
>they're both fucking planes, bumbling around on underpowered thrusters, flipping eachother over
>one of them has plasma
>the other has rails
>farm kills for the rest of the match


Well, it seems everything is going about as I expected. I think the real thing that killed Robocuck for good was auto-regen and the ability to use more than one weapon type. Really killed the fun rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock thing, where you could subvert the meta with clever building.

Guess I'll check back in next month

>>171188602
100 platinum lets you make about 10000 rockets
1000 platinum lets you make as many ion thruster as your soul desires
Only about 20% of platinum ore gets refined into platinum