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ded: >>170565926
Guys please
There's LITERALLY nothing wrong with Mannfred
Be cool
KING!
OF DARKNESS
I fucking HATE HATE HATE Vampire SCUM
>>170622957
this is a /mbg/ friendly general but please just use a total war image for the OP anon
Mannfred the Wise!
Mannfred the MERCILESS
>>170623097
fuck off nigger /twg/ is an /mbg/ vassal as evidenced by this saving you lazy fags from 404ing without a new ed
just accept it
>GOBBO ARCHERS
>>170623086
based Grave Guards
>>170622957
>/mbg/ edition
Truly the worst edition i've ever seen
>>170622246
shamefur dispray
Guard mode is supposed to prevent your units from chasing enemies, right?
Does that work with ranged units or will they still try to chase routing units?
>>170623538
if you have them on fire at will no, if you focus a single unit yes because you've engaged them
works the same for infantry
>>170623538
Yeah, it works with ranged units they will stop shooting when they leave their range.
>/mbg/ edition
total war:calradia when?
>>170623538
>>170623604
I always have fire at will toggled off though so
>>170623589
is probably right
>>170622957
ROLLAN!
>>170622957
>/mbg/ edition
disgusting
hostile takeover
>>170623589
>if you focus a single unit yes
Yes, they'll still give chase? Goddammit.
Even with fire at will I usually pick targets for all ranged units - which eventually ends with them running off to their deaths.
the best edition in a long time
your favourite faction is shit
>>170623941
No no no, you turn guard mode on and then target a unit within your archers' range and they won't follow it beyond their range.
I think it does interfere with them targeting other enemies after they kill or rout the initial target.
mountain blade pls go
>>170623941
If they're in guard mode and you tell a ranged unit to attack something in their range, they'll shoot at it and won't chase it if they run outside of range. If they're in guard mode and the unit you tell them to attack is outside range they'll move to engage initially but won't chase after.
>>170623972
I like how that peasant is just standing resigned, ready to be stabbed with a cursed blade and not even trying to defend himself...
...or he's just too retarded to realize he'll be dead in a second and keeps saying "Hello, let's be friends"
>>170623229
>he's being rude in a comfy general on top of everything
Stay mad about bannerlord slowly draining your general of its will to live, senpai
>>170624086
>>170624142
Ohhh, thank god. Really should've figured that out earlier.
>I think it does interfere with them targeting other enemies after they kill or rout the initial target.
At least they'll be safe from my inattention.
>>170624317
s-shut up
/mbg/ demands vassalage and offers us map information and 5 turns military access in return
Y/N?
>>170623719
Can someone post the Attila one?Please?
>>170624579
Please do not attack.
Accept or we will attack.
>>170624579
Demand 9999 shekels first.
Are there any mods that improves the skill trees?
At least the blue one. I never see any reason to take it.
Lads, I've found dat da best foightin' iswithin ourselves
WAAAAGH
>>170624674
>any mods that improves the skill trees?
Yes.
>I never see any reason to take it.
It's god-tier for Dorfs.
>even though campaign started before Bret patch, Bretonnia got updated when it released
>quickly started confederating with itself and shit
>that one province north of Mouselion is my vassal tho, so they can't confederate
AHAHAHA
>>170624738
Mork > Gork
>>170624317
>>170624835
t. Skarsnik
Oh my
Has there ever been a Mount and Blade mod for Total War?
You know playing in Calradia and stuff
>>170624770
Can you please link it?
>playing welves as orion
>mid game remember that I wanted to go for a specific build
>already wasted 4 points on other shit
>no skillpoint refund mod exists
>don't really feel like restarting
>playing on legendary so can't load an earlier save
damn it
>>170625090
Nope. :^)I saw a couple of those mods, but never used them myself.
>>170625004
BIG
ORC
BATTLES
I had forgotten how shit VC was without a damage dealing vampire lord
>>170625221
>>170625221
>>170625356
w-what? you should've won that, vamplord or no vamplord! this is retarded!
then again, you're playing Mannlet instead of based Von Carsteins.
>>170625221
>>170625356
How did you manage that?
wh-what's it like in there
>>170625221
Damn wtf are you on legendary?
>>170625221
Looks like someone didn't hammer their anvil.
>>170625356What's with the funny-colored ghouls? I keep seeing them.
>>170625468
Skellies and zombies don't do damage even when hammer and anvil
And Ghorst has no killing power
Played on hard battle
>>170625546
Ghastly ghouls mod
>most of bret freed from noble niggers
>vamps smashed and dragged into the light, their citizens absorbed into the empire for a better life
Feels good improving the old world.
>>170622957
Have we been colonized
man these steam reviews are something else let me tell you
>>170625771
>Skellies and zombies don't do damage even when hammer and anvil
You can't hammer with an anvil just like you can't hammer a hammer. Ghouls are a step-up, but they kinda suck against anything in armorand just in general.
>Ghastly ghouls
Ah, thanks.
>>170626056
To be fair, I too want to cast Wail of the Banshee and Meteor Swarm on my enemies.
>>170626056
What we really need is a TW with Dominions levels of magic.
Also
>Fractions
>>170626056
>I can not turn my enemies into skeletons or some kind of monster during the battle
>>170625221
>>170625356
unlelss you're playing on legendary check your units buffs/debuffs next battle
he probably has an enchanted item on; I had similar results fighting against mannlet when he had glimmering scales armour (-8 attack aura)
>>170625101
>he fell for the legendary meme
Just play vh with battle realism enabled so you can reload saves if needed
>>170626185
What we really need is Dominions V
>>170626257
>reloading
>ever
Absolutely disgusting.
>>170626112
>you can't hammer a hammer
false
sandwiching enemy cav with your own to instarout them is how you secure victory. anvil and anvil may not work but hammer and hammer is fucking brutal
>>170626257
not being able to savescum is the best part of legendary
all difficulty levels should have an ironman mode like CK2
Playing as Skarsnik.
Now what the balls should I name my spider? Stunty Stickla? Itty Bitty something-something?
>>170624738
yes, green things, you, yourself are your wors- i mean best enemy
>>170626112
>an anvil just like you can't hammer a hammer
thats where you are wrong kiddo
>>170626257
but vh is too easy
>>170626463
Big Stompy
>>170626463
Eight-Leg Squig
>>170626421
>losing your 100 turn campaign to file corruption or bugs is the best part of legendary
FTFY
>>170626463
Franz
>>170626368
>>170626507
Obviously it works for Bretonnia because their knights are busted, but can you do it with all factions?
>>170626056
>it would make sense if the undead have no moral
Skellingtons are upstanding members of society!
>>170626463
big ol' squig snatcher
>>170624601
Rolling only allowed if you dislike /mbg/
>>170626463
Fuzzy Wuzzy
>>170626693
/mbg/ would not be invited to come and shit at my table.
>>170626463
the STIKKEM express
I might have misunderstimated this 'insane Chaos invasion' mod when running Steel Faith on Legendary
Was wondering why the Empire got eaten up so quickly
>>170626463
Arack-Eight-Legs
>>170626928
I like this one
>>170626928
That's pretty good.
>>170626463
Itsy Bitsy
>>170626928
Looks like we have a winnin' git here.
>>170626871
>two hellcannons per unit
>>170624941
That's a beautifully done loop
Mesmerizing really
Does SFO make magic just good or OP? In vanilla it's pretty meh, but some spells absolutely fuck shit up, like Wind of Death.
>>170626928
So clever and cunnin' Mork 'imself would be impressed
>>170626693
rolling!
>>170627098
>gee archy
How the fuck do I stop Corruption as Dwarves. Slayer Shrines costs 10k gold and every province has 20%+ corruption thanks to those global events.
>>170627219
A G E N T S
G
E
N
T
S
Lads...
>>170627219
Agents and tech
>>170627219
Research and breweries can get you by if you're poor
>>170627394
into the book it goes
>>170627504
it doesn't help that Wurzag's army has another 4 chariots. Also it has Wurzag.
>>170627394
Not impossible if the reinforcements don't spawn behind you
>>170627394
What's that unit in between the black orcs and big un's?
>>170627543
Err...
>>170627583
Faith and Steel mod adds Black Orcs with shields.
>>170626340
Need to nerf Machaka more
t.Shillwinter
>>170623685
Medieval 2 my man
>>170626928
1 more vote for this
>>170627683
Wall up the reinforcements with your warriors, quarrelers on the flanks with your grudge throwers and hem them into a tight ball
Then artillery them to death. With some luck, you should be able to rout them immediately off the map before the original army reaches you
>>170626928
High King Thorgrim has officially lost the badlands bowl, and is in full cut-our-way-north-through-the-mountains-and-find-a-new-home mode. All his friends are dead, south of the border princes there is only the unending green tide.
In other news:
>Kislev survives its 3-hole fucking by the norsca/red eye/chaos triumvirate, may recover in time to stall Archaon before being annihilated
>Elector counts cease infighting at long last and fully devote all efforts to purge chaos and norscan incursions
>Wood elves unite and openly declare war on all mankind, their armies move into northern Bretonnia
>Alberic of Bordeleaux loses faith in his king and accepts protection from the Empire, Helborg and Schwartzhelm begin their offensive against the elves and Mousillon, the Bretonnian wars begin
>all of Estalia has mysteriously vanished, nobody knows what the fuck happened and no one has moved in
>>170627683
their spawning behind you is the best thing, you can wipe them out before reinforcements arrive
>>170626871
Pepper up your angus.
SF really buffs Aspiring Champoins.
>>170627940
>nobody knows what the fuck happened
POOPOO PEEPEE happened
>>170627940
>High King Thorgrim has officially lost the badlands bowl
Jesus christ. Post mods.
>>all of Estalia has mysteriously vanished
The man-sized rats got 'em.
>>170627858
yep this, I actually hope the AI spawns behind me because of this
>>170623719
MEN OF THE EMPIRE!
>>170628116
Only steel faith overhaul that would be affecting it in any way, I've noticed greenskins tend to favor the garrison/wall building now so they might be holding their territory better
>>170628304
FIGHT for your NATION!
>>170627963
>>170627858
Well it worked. Somehow...
how does the AI react if you give them their freedom if they're your vassal?
>>170628486
>instantly DW on you
>>170626056
>No love for fantasy
Why not cut the bullshit and stop right there? Why do people like that force themselves to find a "better" reason to dislike it(and they can't even do that properly)?
WHEN
>>170628398
Currently in my Empire playthrough with SFO the greenskinz wiped out thorgrim a few turns before my Franz super stack was able to get there and save them.
F
>>170628304
SIGMAR BLESS
>>170628630
How can you cut head with a hammer?
>>170628479
Hundreds of grumblers, suddenly silenced
>>170628479
Good job son. Now you know how to always instantly delete an army if it reinforces behind you.
if you observe the orc behaviour vanilla in tww, you will notice that they prefer to sack, which is why eventually they lose steam and get taken over by dwarves that prefer to occupy
>>170628687
He has a fucking dagger on his fucking belt jesus christ man
>>170628687
>kill the orc with ghal maraz
>tear its head off with your retard strength and bare hands
>>170628687
> cut
Ghal Maraz is SMASH
>>170628547
You know I want to free Nordland and Middenland from my Bretonnian mitts, but i'm afraid those dumbfucks will go back to war with Karl Franz rather than slaughter Chaos
>>170628687
>cut
He tore it off, anon. Sigmar was THAT manly.
>>170628630
>tfw no founding of the empire campaign
Too much OC I guess. It also might not be interesting without the gunpowder and other normal empire stuff
>>170628691
It's odd but only with dorfs and empire do I get really attached to my units.
Also orcs.
>>170628718
I am also starting to get the hang of getting rid of chariots because fuck those things.
>>170624317
Keep paying $18 for those factions then :^^^^^^^^^^)
>>170629078
At least we have something to spend money on, anon. When's Bannerlord supposed to come out? 2019?
>>170629078
13 ;^)
>>170626056
>Undead get tired? yeah like undead get tired in any fantasy book ever written
hey man have you seen those skellingtons IRL? they get worn down pretty fast tbqh
>>170629242(((soon)))
>>170625018
Kek
The setting is the worst part of MB. One turkish dude was writing a shallow generic medieval setting on napkins during his breaks at the hummus factory
WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IS THIS?
>>170623719
roll
>>170623719
ROLLAN
>>170625018
there was one being made for M2 years ago but it probably got canceled
>>170629391
Akendorf about to getBONED
>>170625828
>trying to justify the cash grab that is invading Bretonnia
Nigga you want the monies ok praise Sigmar. But the idea that KFC or any Empire nobility would gaveb half a fuck about the quality of life for farmers AND would go to war for it is full retard
Hey Louen ?
SIGMAR MAN
>>170623719
Let's roll boyz
Gelt is a better LL than guy with a mallet.
>>170630560
I agree, Gelt should be the emperor.
Not the france guy with the hammer, is he a dwarf or something
can someone give me a quick rundown on what the best army setup for greenskins endgame looks like, playing grimgor btw
>>170630560
+10 Armor makes Gelt better than Karl desu
>>170626693
roll
>>170630074
>tfw unabashedly "saving" the bretonnians to colonize their clay as my own
>their peasants will be on the front lines when we enter athel loren
>>170630560
>>170630634
>>170630684
alright, who the fuck let balthasar onto a computer
>>170630560
He's so tall and dreamy~
Does Cataph's magic overhaul makes destructive spells worth it compared to defensive spells in some occasions?
If not, is there a mod that does that isn't SFO?
Why does Vlad appear as the speaker in the Von Carstein diplomacy screen if you use Isabella as the starting lord? What's the point?
>savage orcs buffedare they still shit?
>>170630172
Kek
>>170630634
If Gelt were Emperor the Doctor Doom ripoff would be complete, save for some Reed Richards equivalent.
>Tomb kangs mod
Memes went too far this time
>>170631280
That woman knows her place.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?741561-Endless-War-campaign-gameplay-overhaul&p=15270379&viewfull=1#post15270379
It's happening. Kemmler horde faction got a newish mechanic.
>>170631535
>She is out of her grave
>That woman knows her place.
Clearly not
>>170631490
Are you implying thats a bad thing?
>>170631595
>Announcing it as if it was an official rework
>It's some literally who mod
>>170631764
No, Gelt is a better Doom than an version of the character in the movies.
>>170631728
>undead
>"un" means "not"
Those notdead shouldn't be in a grave.
>>170631889
You're right, they should be on a pyre.
>>170631362
No. Wurrzag takes them up to a flat 45% physical resistance now.
>>170631764
>tfw you're so powerful you've literally forgotten how humans do things and refer to yourself in the third person
based doom
>>170631595
> Norscan Fleets will constantly harass the coasts of Bretonnia and the Southern Realms
fuck that, unless the game introduces actual navies I am not touching that mod, its annoying enough as it is, when the ai keeps wasting your time by entering cost, and then sea, coast - sea
>>170630481
>misjudge one move
>campaign over
LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN
>>170631595
is this going to be the DEI/fall of the eagles for warhammer?
>>170632012
Based Doom
Is there a decent mod that makes a game feel longer and slower? What about combat? I see the workshop is full of combat related, but i'd also like a slower campaign (but without reduction in income)
>>170632079
It's probably an event that can be stopped if you raze some norscans. They could use the same code as the greenskin incursion event for Bretonnia. The best thing about that mod that it could be a very useful framework for modders.
>>170632145
Yes
I want to be dominated by a best elf!
>>170632320
Try out Steel Faith Overhaul. It slows the game down just a tad through various changes.
>>170632474
you gonna keep posting this in every thread ?
>>170632508
Seems to change a lot about the game itself too. Looks like a pretty good mod, but i don't want that much change to the game itself.
>>170632658
>>170632508
Actually, gonna give it a go. I've read all of the changes and it seems like a good overhaul. Hope i'm not getting meme'd on
>>170631490
>Gelt becomes Emperor and elector count through some scheming after a failed chaos invasion by Archaon.
>Empire either gets divided or completely ruled by Gelt
>Karl Franz is either dead(by the invasion or Gelt) or exiled/missing.
Might be cool. Fanfic tier I guess, but there was a lot of interesting thing they could have done instead of going for floating worlds.
>>170631362
My savage orcs have a charge bonus like shock cav, it's great on field battles.
Outside of wurrzag's army though they're only ok, and sieges are a pain against any ranged faction.
>>170632885
I have had a good experience from playing it. It gets updated really often, which means it can fluctuate a lot(might be a bad thing).
>>170632901
>there was a lot of interesting thing they could have done instead of going for floating worlds.
I would have liked to have seen how the Warhammer wold does the rest of European history, up to World War 1 or thereabouts. See how things like revolutions and colonialism would play out.
>get artillery
>no longer have to plan battles ever because the enemy just bullrushes you as soon as it's in range, which is always
neat
>>170633139
Meh I would like them to stick with Fantasy Landsknechts.
>>170633243
Just an idea.
>>170633139
>>170633243
what do either of you know, you're just fans and players! trust me, what you want is space marines in small skirmish battles.
t. GW
>>170633139
/tg/ had a pretty long story time about something pretty close to this. Some anon telling tales of his group and setting, it's not the warhammer world but it's a fantastic setting.
Have a read - https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Britbongsteros
>>170633437
GW wants new fans I guess. Which makes sense even if the way they went about it sucks.
>>170633437
They had a system for small skirmish battles, it was called Mordheim and it rocked.
Conan Sigmar > Santa Sigmar
>>170632925
For reference, and that doesn't include the frenzy bonus.
Oh boy, things are about to get pretty spicy.
Empire shits couldn't stop Chaos so it's up to Louie and Hippie knight.
>>170631137
Yes and no.
Some of them can melt blobs, but, generally, there's rarely a reason to not buff /debuff instead. Buffs are just more reliable.
>>170633437
GW said themselves they do no market research at all. They promised stockholders they'd see a 20% increase, and what they ended up with is like 1% over two years.
>>170633437
>>170633542
>>170634121
it's a wonder how a company that made so much horrible decisions is still running
>>170634031
>Hippie knight
Now I just got reminded of the time I went to Glastonbury to see some neat historical stuff.
Never again.
>>170634031
Louen and Green knight take your wing down the left flank, and fear no darkness!
>>170634732
>king taking a flank
>not taking the centre
>>170634732
>Louen not on Beakie (a noble beast that is far more radical than lameclaw)
Why though?
>>170628428
Are there any nigga that have these guys, or karl, with the helmet down? I'd love to see what it looks like
>CA tries to limit modding on Total Warhammer as much as possible to prevent people from creating races that are better than CA's own
>Tomb Kings dev announced campaign implementation in the future
kek, how sad is this
>>170635273
>creating races that are better than CA's own
How is this even a concern, especially after Bretonnia?
>>170633592
Conan universe > Warhammer universe
>>170635365
Because why buy the DLC when you can get the mod with more units for free?
>>170628621
First SFO run.
Can't decide if I like the 2x as long battles.
>>170635441
Radious has far more units than anything CA's released, so what?
>>170635441
because unit mods are always terrible with zero (0) exceptions
>>170635560
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=877556036
this is terrible to you?
>>170635684
>Bunch of skeletons with default animation
OH FUG SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANYTHING CA EVER GOING TO MADE
>>170635684
yes. i cant even imagine all the bugs, overpowered shit, and terrible unit resolution cards/pics that are in that
kangs are dumb as shit anyway and are literally for cucks
Why do people say Morghur is the best Beastmen LL in MP?
>>170635852
>>170635983
wew lad I guess /twg/ is anti-mod now
vanilla total war for life guys amiright?
>>170635387
>Proceeds to post a quote of the eponymous character saying his culture is shit
>>170636049
No
but when you say mods is better than official stuff, it's ridiculous
>>170635983
>kangs are dumb as shit anyway and are literally for cucks
Hey now
>>170636049
>vanilla total war for life guys amiright?
For some people It's basically a religion.
>>170636049
no i love mods and use a ton of them. community mods should be very specific and focused though.
its like going to a taco stand to get a great taco vs going to a taco stand and having them make you some shitty spaghetti. just do what you can do and do it well. dont try to be a studio by yourself because its going to be a hot mess
modders come up with great ideas and stuff though too and i love when they are officially implemented
Tomb Kings
more like
Dumb Kangz
LMAO
best elfs when?
>>170636348
that being said i did have a mod corrupt my campaign last night and now i have to start over
>>170636413
>>170636737
tay enchantress has better feet
>>170636413
>>170636737
is malekith going to be the most powerful lord in the game?
he should be like mannfred on crack
>>170636806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg5Sy8-cd9o
>>170637029
>most powerful LL
>not skellington pepe the king of kek
>>170634121
>>170634564
Newfags getting current events from 1d4chan
>>170637168
what do you mean?
is there any other example of a company so utterly destroying one of their ips intentially?
>>170637415
What anon means is that they have a new CEO now and they seem to be taking some steps in a better direction.
>Exemplar bonuses stack
>three captains/paladins gives you rank 9 everything from any province
How is this not the most OP skill ever, and why did I learn of this only now?
Also, Warherd of Chaos besieged my city and a turn later attacked with not one, two or even three siege towers, but THIRTY FIVE OF THEM.
I won btw
>>170637415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thuh3dnCrkU
Anything EA touched actually.
>>170637168
you've earned yourself the golden fedora on a stick and a permanent reddit gold account for being such a retard
>>170637029
Archaon can beat the shit out of Malekith and his ugly mom at the same time.
>>170637415
EA and Ubisoft
>>170637415
>>170637762
Because alot of the current info you morons are spouting about GW is outdated, and no amount of screaming MUH REDDIT will change that, dont believe me? Go to /tg/ and ask them
>>170635019
If it worked for Alexander it works for Louie you peasant.
I just realized I never got the slayer of kings sword when playing chaos in total warhammer
Apparently you can get quest battles but I've never got one before, I usually powerlevel (attack and sack the same settlement over and over) two-three hordes in the north and then I go south. Am I doing it wrong?
>>170638059
I often forget about quest battles too
Stop playing fantasy
>>170634732
Stop their chariots! They'll harvest our peasants like so much crops!
>>170635208
hasn't acquired him yet
>>170638173
Stop playing barbars
>>170638173
>>170638280
What barbars are best barbars?
>>170638059
Most of the lead up shit to quests can be accomplished by agents. Very rarely do you ever have to march an army somewhere.
>>170638204
Chariots stopped and their right flank annihilated by 5 units of Realm Knights
>>170638493
SAXONS
>>170638493
barbeards
>>170637927
it doesn't matter if they're doing now better, it's still fact that, if they hadn't a (nearly) monopoly on tabletop games, and a fanbase that will defend their IP's to the end (especially since their figurines are expansive as fuck, and people would be pretty pissed off, about their hobby getting smashed)
they would've easy gone out off business
>>170638493
the barbars that wear the best pajamas
>>170638493
ERE
so I wanna try out this mod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=879475405
but it seems like it's using maps located in the dwarfs and greenskin areas (besides the king and the warlord area)
so which faction should I play? dwarfs or greenskins?
>>170638545
Nevermind the chaos trolls massacring the peasants, make their infantrybreak!
>>170637415
Heart attack warning.
No seriously, this is official trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ht4dbyPIcM
>>170638704
One of my lords facing down a chaos champion
>lmeo nice exaggerated horns fgt, compensating for something?
>>170637029
lorewise argayon should be the strongest
>>170637663
That seems like an oversight, so my anticheese autism wouldn't let me use it.
>>170638493
saxons > ebdanians > ostrogoths > franks > the rest
in terms of fun anyway
>>170638585
This is true
Luckily they had a change in management
>>170630074
Nigga *I* am the Emperor. KFC is a good boy, and he cares about people.
>>170638548
>>170638978
Why Saxons?
Is itthe mask?
>>170638919
Not only that, it works with global recruitment as well.
>>170639006
just think; what if they Age of Sigmar'd the 40K universe
>>170638847
The left flank envelopment never happened as the Chaos general sent massive chariot and infantry reinforcements there, at the end of it all, barely a regiment a realm knights remain, and the BattleBros ofc.
>>170637927
>muh reddit!
>go ask reddi/tg/ if you dont belive me!
sure thing buddy
>>170639223
At this point it would be an improvement, rules wise
And dont worry i was furious what happened to fantasy
>>170639223
what if they fantasy'd 40k
Chaos chariots, wat do?
>>170638173
My vikings can beat up your vikings
>>170639264
Who exactly do you think wrote 1d4chan?
>>170639264
Who is the current CEO of GW anon? Protip it's not Kirby, and they have been making good profits since getting rid of him, take a wild guess why
>>170639383
Intercept them with your own cav or spearmen.
Alternatively, you can lube up, because they're going in dry.
>>170639260
Lost half a stack but got 2 of theirs in the process, worth it I guess.
>>170639467
>>170639383
wait are those even worth using? I only build the thing so I can get the hellcannon building
>>170639516
>tfw the fighting was so intense I had to throw in a Damsel in the melee when she ran out of mana and she turned into hitler
>>170639656
Chariots are actually pretty good since the Welf patch, but they still suffer from requiring a lot of micro to be succesful.
This means they're pretty useless in a full stack since you can't dedicate the attention they require, but can be fairly decent in multiplayer where you have smaller armies.
>>170639361
>no lasers
>no firearms
>melee only
>final destination
Guardsmen killing a daemon with nothing but bayonets would be rad.
Bayonets in his legs, bayonets in his eyes, bayonets up his arse, more bayonet than daemon, the guardsmen keep coming
>>170639668
>battle was so hard your Paladin gets PTSD
should be demoted to peasants desu
>>170639467
They easily break free from and avoid my speardudes and go straight to rekking my arch/art, they also seem to go toe-to-toe with cav without much effort(or outnumber it)
All halbierder army the solution or wat?
>>170639072
their roster is fun, and their units look glorious
I'm playing skarsnik vs my friend as bretonnia and I'm taking badlands while he has taken bretonnia without a single battle while I'm rank 15 from all the pillaging/battles. He likes to focus on his economy in his games and alert has tier 3 and 4 units while I haven't upgraded much from skulkers and gobbo archers and spears with nightgown in war bosses. What is a good gobbo army comp against his legions of Calvary?
>>170639223
>Emperor dies
>new Eye of Terror forms on Terra
>keeps expanding and ends up merging with the original Eye
>consumes the galaxy
>moments before this the Emperor's soul finds its way to a recently killed Roboute Guilliman and turns him into the Emperor Reborn
>Age of the Emperor begins
is konrad ever going to be playable? he's the best vampire
i would love to see a fight between konrad and grimgor, I mean grimgor would kill him in one hit but it would still be fun to see
>>170639916
They have a huge amount of mass and as such will always be able to pull free of anything. So the only real answer is to make sure they're either dead or heavily wounded by the time they pull out.
This is only really accomplished by your own heavy cav, anti-large or not.
>>170638173
Where did this meme even come from?
Am I meant to only ever see Khazrak one eye in my campaign?
Would be nice if they made the other beastmen LL's into their own factions because it doesn't seem like the AI has the capacity to ever recruit more than 1 stack or unlock any of the LL's.
>>170639980
Alright, I'm sold.
>>170639891
>he only has 5 provinces by turn 113
>>170637029
>most powerful lord
>not muh boy
Step aside low test fucking shits!
>>170635987
Please respond
>>170640472
>he plays on normal
Anons, can you give me an idiots guide to slayers?
I know they're pretty much useless in this game but I feel like I should at least try to use them.
Is there anything more to them than
>Don't get shot
>Charge things
>>170640641
>implying he isn't going to be kemmler 2.0
>>170640182
the guy looks like Varg, and Varg says "stop masturbating"
>>170640364
you'll see morghur and the crow goat occasionally. usually it's when khazrak dies and a new beastmen stack spawns it randomly selects a LL.
>>170641448
Varg says a lot of thing.
>>170641448
Stop setting churches on fire.
>>170641235
if i pick Slayers i usally keep them in reserves behind the melee lines and close to my arty/quarellers/thunderers, since the AI always uses their Large/Cav units to take out your ranged units, and Slayers are pretty devastating against large baddies
Is it really him?
I'm gonna ask him what he thinks of germans
>>170639452
doesnt matter. not going to unrape fantasy
>>170641448
>>170641528
>>170641584
Buy my roleplaying game.
Old Friend and DLC07 are in the works. DLC07 is likely to be a Legendary Lord pack, this is the final content drop for Total War: Warhammer before the sequel.
CA said in a pre-release Bretonnia stream that they had no plans to make Mousillon a playable campaign faction. So Boris and the Red Duke will likely just remain flavor/unlock bonuses for completing those mini-campaigns.
Old Friend
>Kurt Helborg LL or Schwarzhelm Hero
DLC07
>Empire vs. Greenskins LL Pack
>>170640957
I just finished a campaign on very hard and controlled all of Bretonnia, and Marienburg before turn 100. Confederation is piss easy since given it actually provides bonuses rather than penalties unlike other factions.
>>170642031
>have like eighty fucking vampire lords
>all starting locations right next to each
Why?
>>170642031
so how long until we hear about the next game?
>>170642031
Old Friend is a reworked Kemmler with his own subfaction and Krell.
The DLC is Bretonnia vs Vampires.
These are some really short chaos warriors
>>170642418
This summer if we're lucky
>>170640957
>>170642191
>shitters thinking it's the difficulty that makes it bad
I'm on very hard and have 8 provinces by turn 75 as Bordelaux and I'm currently ramming Skealings shit in and have just started building the max level port for Marienburg
>>170642031
>Empire vs. Greenskins pack
I could certainly go for a Marius Leitdorf vs. Gorbad Ironclaw Lord pack. What units would it include? What would it be called?
>The Madman and the monster
>>170626693
>geats
gimme my ppl
>>170642031
>more Empire shit
Please don't.
>>170642975
>himyars
Who are THEY
>>170642031
What we really need is some more vampire LLs
>>170642682
>Calls others shutters
>Only 8 provinces on very hard by turn 70
You should have beaten the campaign like 15 turns ago. Step it up Anon.
>>170642975
>we wuz beowulf an shiit
>>170643084
gods chosen people
>>170622957
>well, here comes an east auto resol.....
I had to actually play this.
>>170643587
See if one unit of Chosen could beat all that by itself
>>170643407
It's more a regional pride thing at this point. I thought Beowulf was a dane.
>>170643428
I see. I'll give them a shot then since they're chosen n shit
>>170642031
>CA said in a pre-release Bretonnia stream that they had no plans to make Mousillon a playable campaign faction.
That's fucking dumb.
They need some kind of bonus so they aren't just a pushover for Bretonnia and they'd make a good campaign being surrounded by fuckloads of enemies.
Would an all outrider army specialised in damage dealing and then retreating be viable?
>>170643587
chivalry is a hell of a drug
>>170643890
probably not, unless you have a fuck ton of vigor loss reduction, since W:TW makes units tried from firing
>>170643587
DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM
>>170643370
I just misspoke the first time.
He only had 5 regions, not provinces.
I got like 18 regions, 8 provinces and 650 chivalry by turn 75.
>>170642031
DLC07
>Empire vs. Greenskins LL Pack
why
Empire could do with another starting location, but Greenskins are fine.
Bret/Beastmeme/Elves/Chaos are the factions which need a lord pack.
>>170642905
>What units would it include?
Empire:
>Wizard Lord
>Empire Engineer; buffs ranged infantry and black powder warmachines
>Huntsmen; anti-large ranged unit with stalk and vanguard
>Celestial Hurricanum; unit buffing warmachine, sort of like an Empire Mortis Engine
>Knights Panther or Knights of the White Wolf
Greenskins
>Savage Orc Warboss; can take advantage of Savage orcs with a red tree like Wurrzag
>Black Orc Boss; hero unit like an Empire Captain except not shit
>Mangler Squigs; big, low model count, high damage, no armor, frenzy cavalary
>Snotling Pumpwagon; different variants, inexpensive chariot that can also act like a VBIED
>Spear Chukka; cheap, low tier siege, AP
What would it be called?
>The Mad and the Savage
>>170642418
Not until after Dawn of War 3 comes out, SEGA doesn't want to step on that games release in anyway.
>there are people who play Empire and go to war with Bretonnia instead of becoming bestest ever friends with Louen while he confederates the entire south, allowing you both to smash Chaos and Wood Elf Fucking Shits from your respective lawns and sharing the finest of wines
>>170644580
Bretonnia is for anschluss.
>>170642031
>Kurt Helborg
He is cool and all, but I rather want something different than a upgraded Empire general in Reikland. Markus Wulfhart would be nice. Boris would also be ok since you get a new Empire faction.
>>170644272
No paid DLC for DLC
We will get them for free, like Morghur
>Playing as Vlad
>Turn 300ish
>Only Orcz, Welfs and Estalia left
I can only take a settlement or two then have to leg it back to my own area to replenish, fuck the badlands this is tedious as fuck. Think i'm doing alright for my first hard campaign though.
>>170644580
>Become besties with Louen
>He brings his massive shitter army of 40 unaccomponied lords to my territory to protect me from crooked moon and skaeling attacks while I poop on Chaos
Odd guy, that Louen
>>170642031
should've been chaos vs empire withvaltenandbelakor
>>170644580
no fuck these pseudo tarantino frog and baguette eating fucks, they always attack me without reason, and take Marienburg like it's theirs
>>170644798
>turn 300
wew vlad
>>170627394
>DAVE DAWISON II
>>170643587
u gunna git LANCED
>>170644432
>wanting more flavors of empire knight
Greenskin side looks better, work on it some more and get a copy on my desk by monday or i'm pulling your funding
>>170644580
>>170644820
I will say this for the guy, Louen AI loves to go crusading into norsca. Doesn't give a shit about his dukedoms, elves will rampage all over bretonnia. If his own little pocket of land is safe, Louie is in norsca with a stack of knights burning down barbar villages.
>>170627394
>Dave Dawison
>>170645026
>more flavors of empire knight
Yes you fucking faggot thats the point of white wolf and panther
>>170637415
blizzard.
RIP in peace warcraft and starcraft.
What in the fuck is wrong with Averland, lads
No matter what I do, they are on my ass. Averheim comes under siege by a massive vampire army, and they open diplomacy with me. Instead of asking for a military alliance like I expect, they DECLARE WAR ON ME AND BURN GRUNBURG TO THE FUCKING GROUND
>>170645373
Averland is very aggressive to me. Wissen burns from crooked moon, and averland always recolonized it or buries them
>Knights of Bretonnia!
>FOR BRETONNIA! FOR THE LADY!
>Sigmar Calls!
>Heh.....
Why is this allowed
>>170645373
>he didn't build walls everywhere
They're trying to tell you something, """"""""emperor""""""""
alright so I pirated the DLC just so I can see which factions are worth buying and dude the beastmen are fucking crap, they have some cool campaign gimmicks but their roster is so fucking small holy shit
are they even good in battles? I think some of their units are pretty good
>>170645364>tfw WoW made the warcraft universe so stupid and gay you don't even want warcraft 4 anymore>tfw starcraft 2, 'nuff said about that
>>170645621
Theyre all pretty hit or miss. Ungors are typical low tier fodder and the spearmen are pretty bad at their jobs
Minotaurs, Gorebulls, and Centigors are a blast to use though
>>170644432
>Mangler Squigs; big, low model count, high damage, no armor, frenzy cavalary
Mangler squigs work like Fanatics though, it would have to be different.
Also we've already had a savage orc lord so I doubt they'd call it that.
>>170644432
only unit which sounds remotely interesting is the Celestial Hurricanum, and even then, not really.
Does anyone else feel like SFO makes the game easier? Those reinforced garrisons are supposed to make it harder for you but it only makes the game harder for the AI.
THE NATION CALLS
I actually like Chaos in TW:W
Why do people dislike playing as Chaos? They are cool because you don't have to defend your settlements and stuff, it's all about killing and sacking.
Sure they are not a faction you are supposed to play over and over because building shit is fun too but I think they are a cool bonus faction like the Ikko Ikki in Shogun 2.
I fucking hate the Ikko Ikki though, Oda is the best clan.
>blow up the towers
>walk up to the walls in formation
>victor charlie has literally no defense against this
>can just fire off all bullets and cannon into his mob and leave if there are still too many
How do you solve this, idea guys of /twg/
>>170645621
They're unfinished, and they lack a lot of options.
Pretty much the entire Gor train is flavourless, same for the beastlords.
Minotaurs are probably my favourite unit in the game however.
Beastmemes need more love, they're really fun on campaign, but just lack the in a lot of their units.
>>170646837
pic very related
>>170646824
Shitty campaign mechanics.
Funnily enough, Chaos have a great roster, with a lot of unity variety and different ways to build armies. But their campaign gimmicks are all a pain in the ass.
oh dog
this isn't even the final invasion, what the fug
How the fuck are you expected to hammer & anvil on Bretonnia when the anvil keeps routing whenever the enemy sneeze?
>>170623719
okay whatever
>>170646824
The painfully slow start just kills it for me
Spending multiple turns trying to sack then raze/subjugate/awaken just slows you to a crawl, especially when you only have one/two armies that you're dealing with
>>170647247
Use two hammers instead
>>170647179
>halbard spam
>no giants or shaggots
>weak lord
yep, thats easy mode chaos
>>170639031
>precariously sitting on the throne, powerful lords trying to undermine you at every step
>borders beset by edgy vikings, greenskins, rapey beastmen, zombies, the literal fucking representatives of the Chaos Gods trying to destroy your realm
>haha thata fine but i want to marginally improve the lot of farmers so im gonna invade the human realms that would help me face down the hordes :^)
kys my man
>>170647247
get a grail reliquae
or replace your anvil with more horses
>>170647432
In hindsight you're right, as I am kind of alone facing chaos. The dwarfs are my allies but won't send anyone north, and most of the counts are dead. I really don't feel like bret would have helped though, because, like I said, the dwarfs aren't doing shit.
>>170646837
I meet your force in front of the walls, with the towers at my back. Use Vargheists or something to kill the arty while zombos tie down the main force, all while towers rain death upon you.
Advice for playing the Sclavinians? It says they're easy but I have doubts.
got my shit pushed in, only killed 400 out of 100 of the enemy units, now that chosen stack and the stack in this pic are attacking me
tempted to withdraw, but I have no guarantee that she wont just run towards the other stack, and then she'll get deleted if she loses
>>170647417
those are chosen anon, and in the hands of the AI, I would much rather fight a shaggoth or a giant (that gets removed by literally just one unit of spear dancers) than chosen spam
>>170647247
Have you considered nails?
Are weapon quests still fucked?
>bret LLs only get one artifact each
what is this injustice?
>>170648193
Bretonnia never had much lore for them to base the artifacts on
Is there a special reason that the confederate button doesn't show up for Skarsnik when I play as greenskins or is it just a bug? I confederated with Wurrzag just fine early in the game. Now it's turn 78, I'm military allies with Skarsnik and the only remaining option on the top is making him my vassal.
>>170648193
>Louen gets a pretty useful sword
>Feet Enchantress has a Chalice with FREE bombards in it
>Albericsits in his port, the unchivalrous churl
Compared to the worthless artifacts that, say, Empire gets, these are pretty alright.
>tfw kills from Searing Doom aren't counted as kills from the wizard
Such a shame, it really fucked them up
>>170647247
Use the red tree.
Peasants get some pretty nice buffs with it.
>>170648458
Ghal Maraz should give some better shit.
I mean, shit CA, it's THE Warhammer.
Has anyone tried fighting Chaos as Brets with SFO? Warriors and Aspiring Champions can chew through any peasants without taking any casulities, squires are too low in number to protect archers and not get surrounded, warriors can even withstand a few charges from Knights of the realm. I just don't have enough time to deal with threats before my infantry line crumbles.I barely contained first wave of invasion and only because half of their stacks were shitty marauder spam. Once Archie boy shows up with his gay chosen squad and Hellcannon line i'm basically fucked.
>>170647316
>he spends his early game in bum fuck nowhere with the Norsca
>He doesn't choose signals for the starting units then replace with your own personal lord
> Name him whatever them go on fun chaos invasions to the south
Also I ditch mauraders early for the chaos warriors unit and hit humans. Their early game units are weak af and even when it says they have the greater balance of power I still normally win with at most 200 casualties
>>170648193
Look at Khazrak's armour, and then be grateful.
>>170648458
doesnt the trident get a free spell too? youre a cuck jew if you just use his for gold
How do you deal with being stuck with the 20-turn delay at the start of a bretonnia campaign? Sitting on my ass for the first 20 turns sucks
/twg/ seems to love Free Company militia but seriously I've never really found a use for them. I have them in my army but everytime I just wish I had a handgunner or swordsman instead depending on the situation
>>170648981
You're a cuck if you use him in combat instead of Louen or Feet Enchantress, period.
And yes, it's some Wind, I believe.
>>170646837
>can just fire off all bullets and cannon into his mob and leave if there are still too many
if you leave then you don't take the castle so you don't really win.
If it's a faction that legit threatens you then they might bring up another army in that time. If it's not a faction that threatens you then it doesn't matter anyway, you'll win.
And if you mean how would you play against it, in MP you can actually target with towers so you can focus them on artillery.
>>170647813
I mean for the AI. Of course the player can fight back, but as things are now the VC ai is helpless in a siege, what new units or mechanic could help them?
>>170649191
i use all three you peasant
you dont have 3 or more stacks?
>>170642595
Hellcannons are crewed by Chaos Dwarfs.
>>170632194
damn. did he win?
>>170649368
DawI Zharr confirmed
I can't stop them...
>>170649350
Usually only 2 are on active offensive, at least in Bretonnia's case. Of course, Alberic has a third stack with himto defend those ports.
>Reiksguard in charge of not getting triple digit kills per unit in every single battle
>>170649531yes
They are cutting right through me
>>170649974
>that map
kill yourself
>Mannfred spends the last 10-15 turns murdering, sacking, and razing Empire lands (mainly to avoid spawning Chaos early)
>Catch KF in an ambush and completely wipe out all but ten enemy troops out of 1000+
>Sack and raze Grenzstadt
>gains trait "Likes Humans"
For what fucking purpose.
>>170638775
HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT WERE THEY THINLING?!!!!
was really good up unil the action pachinko shit started
>>170650214
With vampires i assume they mean it in a more literal sense. Like humans being tasty.
>>170649974
>conquering Louenlands
You piece of shit
>>170650385
>>170650130
French nobles can kill themselves
>>170650232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVSRjJL1bv8
>>170649923cool
Which school of magic is the best? Felt like celestial was a bit weak but maybe I am bad.
>>170650915
I don't know about vanilla, but Metal is really good in SFO now
>>170650528
there is no way, NO WAY! this isn't a joke video made by someone or Konami leadership basically sabotaging their own company and pissing on the fanbase of these games because they're sadists
i can not see how this is a smart decision for their company
>>170650385
>>170650130
Also I turned the west into a fucking paradise so fuck you. Those peasants have such a better life and you're a cuck if you think otherwise. Shielded by dwarfs, mountains, and the blood of noble sigmar sons, they farm all day in their lush lands with not a care in the world.
>>170638775
>>170650915
>Felt like celestial was a bit weak but maybe I am bad.
I've never tried it myself but I do wonder how much damage the comet of Cazandora would to to a blob of enemy infantry...
>>170645373
Their ruler is a literal loony.
>>170651139
those peasants used to live in a land free of enemies protected by literal demigods.
Now they live in empire territory which means the same amounts of corruption as before but now they have to deal with daily skaven, greenskin and beastmen invasions, chaos cults and civil wars.
gj anon you really "liberated" those people. Are you american by any chance?
>>170648627
The public order bonus is pretty yuge and faction wide
>>170651289
>Their ruler is a literal loony.
not him but I made him my spymaster after confederating...did I fuck up Lore-wise?
>>170645505
this. Rule no 1 with Empire is get those walls built
>Varg&Skaeling spamming hordes all day
>I'll have to waste 50 turns in fucking Norsca
fun,so much fun.
>>170651139
Ignore them. Some folks don't seem to get that being human doesn't mean you play nice with other humans.
>>170651362
Peasants might also be able to eat regularly, not have to become inbred monsters, receive proper combat training when conscripted, and proper equipment. The Empire at least pretends to care about you before you give your life in the name of Sigmar.
do orcs have the hardest campaign in total warhammer? you are always dealing with rebellions, dwarfs, more dwarfs, beastmen and other greenskin tribes
what a pain, at least you don't have to fight chaos
>>170651081
Sounds good, perhaps I won't waste Dr. Doom's potential this time.
>>170651654
>you don't have to fight chaos
wut?they send 3-4 stacks to Bandlands
>>170651547
>>170651362
>>170651139
none of you have it right, you don't conquer bretonnia to free the peasants or give them better livelihoods or any of that bullshit.
you conquer them because if man keeps to its stupid ideas of tribal divisions, eldritch horrors are going to pour out of the warp and destroy the entire fucking world and no one will stop them.
kill anyone who stands in your way, terrorize whoever you have to if it means you have the industrial complex and manpower to save the world.
>>170651362
i think every Bretonnian peasant prefers the possibility of being gnawed by Skaven more than giving 9/10 under any circumstance of his earning, his children (if they have magic abilites), his life because the Lord needs a meatshield for some useless crusade against some people who live 500 miles in bumfuck nowhere. Add to that, that peasants can't even worship the lady, and get extra taxed for worshiping other deities and that they shan't leave their houses and must fuck their relatives to procreate.
Truly a dream come true, are you British by any chance ?
>>170649120
>>170651654
There's those norscan assholes who spawn off the coast once Archaon shows up
And every time I play Crooked Moon/Greenskins the chaos rapetrain always takes a path through the mountains toward Kharaz-a-Karak
Corsica, Sardinia, and Sicily have all embraced Islam and joined the caliphate.
Soon the Muslims will occupy Rome and the Pope himself will be a slave of Allah.
>>170651826
yeah but you should have the whole badlands by that point and the cool thing about the badlands is that they are easy to defend
>>170651972
auto-resolve bait
>>170651970
First of all Brettonnian doesnt have a clue about what is even a Skaven.
Second of all if middle age serf could give 9/10 tithe so can fantasy one
>>170652016
Takbir
>>170649120
They're excellent for flanking in the early game. Horses are limited early on and the free company can either shoot enemies in the back or wade into melee as needed
They do lose some value over time but they're available when you really need them
>>170649120
They're absoultely based in the early game and rank up quickly. Then you have a nice handful of full gold FCM for flanking and ambushing later on.
>>170652134
This peasant actually thinks his lord only wants 9/10 of his produce.
>>170652134
i implied that a Peasant would choose(if he knew what a Skaven is) the possible Skaven invasion, over being an Monty Python cliche inbred freak.
searching for sources how the serfdom was split in European Medieval times, but can't find any. But i don't think that they were so draconian as the ones in Bretonnia
What do I actually have to do to stop chaos? I've "killed" Archaon once and Skilvalldlddld twice, and the big fucker twice as well.
>>170651520
Toy don't have to, I've completed a VC very hard long campaign without razing a single norsca town. I defeated chaosib a few major battles, colonized a few towns then got a peace treat with the norscans and they raided my provinces but never attacked me again.
>>170651654
>do orcs have the hardest campaign in total warhammer?
for me they were so easy I stopped playing them out of boredom. Grimgor is so dman good I basically controlled all of the badlands and for some reason orc encampments generate a shitton of gold so I was rich whilst having 6 stacks each with waagh armies (the waagh armys are really op)
>you are always dealing with rebellions
so? just smash em. All it does is add to your waagh meter
>>170652681
Keep stomping it, they respawn over time. The win -con is own so many provinces, kill a few factions, and just keeping chaos down
>>170650915
They're all pretty good now. It's funny how Fire has fallen to the wayside with Metal having a cheaper bombardment and much better AoE now. Also the Cascading Fire Cloak only affects one unit which is a shame. Burning Head and the pillar of fire last way too long. Gehenna's Golden Hounds is perfect.
Heavens does pretty well, but you need to make the enemy set up. The breath spell can do very good damage, but you need a proper blob to do it on. The comet can also do some decent damage but the cost is a bit too much for me. The lightning bolt is good against artillery and will destroy one instantly if you hit dead on. I'm not sure if it one shots a hellcannon though.
Metal is almost a perfect lore now. I wish Final Transmutation functioned a bit differently but all the other spells can be used with great effect. Setting up Gehenna's Golden Hounds can easily rack up 100+ kills and swing an entire blob fight, amazing for siege fights in corridors.
>chaos warriors have the best melee units
>empire is jack of all trades, master of a few
>I don't know about elves, I don't have the DLC
>dwarfs have good ranged units
>vampires have good terror builds and very strong units with regen and shit
>bretonnia has the best everything
what do greenskins have? why would I play them over any of those factions?
any idea why AI karl franz still only has his reikland runefang even though he's lvl 30?
>>170652826
Deys green
Whys yous play a not green bunch of gits?
zoggin dum
>>170649120
I played two battles with them I realized they were a meme
>>170652016
Mashallah!!!!
>>170652826
They consistently spawn free armies from the waagh mechanic.
>constantly attacked by this one faggot greenskin army because his two squads of trolls (which get routed by two crossbow units before they even reach my front lines) make the AR think he has overwhelming chances of victory
STOP
SKARSNIK GO AWAY
>>170652826
>>bretonnia has the best everything
Cav and that's it. Their ranged cav is depressing. Arty, while useful, is pretty boring. And their infantry has nothing on Empire.
>what do greenskins have?
Auto-resolve cheese.
>>170652887
plz respond guys
>>170650915
Look for useful AoE buffs/debuffs
Done
>>170652162
>>170652352
hm idk I kinda rush crosbows and pistoliers early game. The free companys limited range means they get forced into melee (even with auto retreat or whatever) and there they just suck in my experience.
like I said I prefer dedicated gunners and dedicated melee troops over jack of all trades gues. But I might just not be using the correctly
>>170652930
agreed
>>170652657
Speaking of taxes....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax
>Church tax is compulsory for Catholics in Austria. This tax was introduced by Adolf Hitler in 1939. After World War II, the tax was retained in order to keep the Church independent of political powers.
What a weird tidbit no? Werent nazis atheists?
>CONTROL ZONES LOL
>>170652887
>>170653090
Because Franz sucks lol.
why is the autoresolve so crazy, I am tired of having to fight shitty battles like these
>>170648815
I don't know about you, but I got put in the fucking ground as Durthu. WE anti-armour options all die within seconds to the Champion spam, it was ridiculous watching my Eternal Guard go down to 50% within ten seconds of combat.
>>170652114
>Auto resolve bait
>Clearly pictured after a quest battle
>>170653175
worse, their main support was in protestant middle class households and rich people.
catholics were the only ones who opposed the nazis.
those with the least % were mostly catholic states, can't find the right graph
>>170653691
Werent Catholics less urbanized/more rural so they werent hit as much with depression?
>>170653175
>Werent nazis atheists?
No they weren't at all.
>>170651972
Abysmal bonuses
Also turn up your contrast, Shit is too dark
>>170653175
>What a weird tidbit no? Werent nazis atheists?
Adolf Hitler was a great admirer of Islam
>>170653157
>Pistoliers
Literal trash unit. Especially compared to free company. They take slightly less time to flank but do half as much damage once they're back there. They also get destroyed by enemy ranged in either style of combat whereas free company can trade decently with crossbows or BTFO them in melee.
>>170653175
>churches are now paying money to the government like citizens
>NOW they don't have government representation
lol yurop
>>170653691
>>170653845
i don't know about that, but i would guess since for example many polish people from Silesia and other provinces that are now polish worked in coalmines in places like North-Rhine Westphalia (17 - 18) were staunch any nazi.
Also Bavarians were always their own, and didn't like others.
But as a matter of fact, it wasn't the big city block that won Hitler the election, it was the middle class that was very rural and afraid to lose everything to the economic crisis, since the people who lost everything (who worked in factories and lived in big cities) voted for the communist party (KPD)
is reinforcement range still bugged? It's one of Grombrindal gimmick
>>170652016
It has already been done, while everyone was busy jerking off to fantasy knights, I was spreading the word of Allah
You're a month late buddy.
>bring 2 cannons
>snipe the vampire easily
>state troopers cheer and charge downhill, slaughtering graveguard spam as handgunners shoot up monsters
A, B, C.
ALWAYS.
BRING.
CANNONS.against vampires
>The free companys limited range means they get forced into melee (even with auto retreat or whatever)
First off, you really don't want to use skirmish mode with troops of any kind unless they have shoot on the move.
Secondly, free company should be snuck around back after the lines clash. The AI will not pull out of the line to engage them, so getting them into melee should not be a concern.
How do I deal with internal politics in Attila? I'm new to the game and the tooltips are ridiculously unhelpful.
>>170651664
Still not sure of Molten Metal's viability, but Golden Hounds is fucking crazy, this is from two overcast Golden Hounds into the side of the enemy frontline.
>>170654231
you're not using the correctly then. early game (and this is legendary difficulty btw) I have 6 pistoliers. Just send them in and the ai will chase them with some untis splitting up it's forces. They just run off on their own and pretty much destroy 1 unit each then they're used to chase broken units who have routed from the main engagement.
i love pistoliers and Outriders even more so when I can recruit them
>>170655069
I mean Searing Doom, of course, not Molten Metal. Not sure where I got that from.
>>170654209
>Adolf Hitler was a great admirer of Islam
Alhamdulimlah!!!
>>170654945
yeah i have the regiment of renown free company still so I'll try to use them more effectively and see if I like them
Would you guys say The King & The Warlord is worth grabbing? Already got The Grim & The Grave and I felt it was kinda underwhelming, fun units aside. Volkmar wasn't that much of a hoot and the campaigns feels the same.
Crooked moon is so fun. Almost all of their units are hot garbage even with max tech, but their armies are so cheap you can run around with 3 stacks building up massive waaghs and taking over everything like a plague.
10/10 faction, would play again.
>>170654947
I ignore them
>>170655105
Or you could take six units that actually do damage and have the battle over with in less time than it takes for a unit of pistoliers to kill any variety of infantry.
>>170654945
>enemy line engaged
>fcm rolls in total safety to hit them in the ass
crossbows can literally do the same thing, can fire over your lines to do damage before the melee lines clash, are better at taking down flying units, better at anti missile cav work, and will be useful the rest of the game
As far as I can tell the only advantages to FCM is if they get caught in melee and AP. Both of which are useful in some situatuons.
>>170655439
Its pretty worth it just for the new lords. Crooked Moon and Clan Angrund are nice twists on the usual campaign
The new dorf units arent anything special but Runelords are nice and all the new greenskin units are wonderful
>>170645373
>Kemmler and Mannfred are besieging Averheim
>I rush to their defence and destroy both armies
>Averland gets pissed at me for trespassing
I really wish it wasn't like this.
>>170655504
idk anon. Those pistoliers have saved my ass a bunch of times. Once I get crossbows and handgunners and jnghts I ofcourse stop using them but early game they are my go to units
>>170655579
The difference here is if the enemy also has ranged infantry. Crossbows will have to trade with them at range, free company can close and demolish in melee.
Let's also once again remember the difference in cost, both in straight gold and buildings, between free company, crossbowmen, and pistols.
>>170655613
>Tfw no one loves using rangers as much as you.
>>170655868
>averland
Those guys are cunts anyway
>>170651882
I don't have warhammer yet, is that a think that happens in campaign?
>>170656624
Sort of
you just get memed on by chaos warrior armies
Probably one of the last factions will be ACTUAL demons though so that'll more or less be a thing
PULLO
A SINGLE FORMATION
>>170656624yes, but it's actually very underwhelming. daemons of chaos isn't implemented yet so it's just a nerd and his buddies and one actual daemon prince
>>170655276
I'm not even memeing
>Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[5]
>According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[6]
>>170656624
The "End Times" happen in the late game where a bunch of Chaos stacks pour out of the wasts and the Norscans all invade. It's really not that hard to beat though.
What's the name of the TW mod that has uruks, and all sorts of random factions. I've never played it but really want to.
>>170656427
You're not alone, fellow dawi. I don't really understand how does /twg/ not care about stalking vanguard deploy ranged units with great stats.
>>170651882
I can accept this as a fluffy/in game consistent reason to take over Bretonnia.
>>170657075
Third Age?
>>170657075
Thera
>>170657221
remember that a king/emperor's concern is not the life of every little serf or subject, but the defense of his realm. you're in the seat of power for one reason.
>>170657075
Planet war?
Anon, I need help.
This dorf has got this trait which is causing me all kinds of hassle.
I have him in a settlement with a shrine, he is garrisioning that settlement (and he's not in any other stance) but none of his negative traits are going.
Help?
>>170658489
I dont think you can get rid of it
I thought removing traits was Bret-exclusive
have you done your duty in removing the butthurt manlet menace?
>>170658489
are you sure the shrines remove negative traits thing isn't unique to brettonia?
>>170658489Would it be better to change to 2d portraits, if you play on low textures?
>>170658725
>Update
>>170658725
the AI doesn't realise that for most dwarven infantry using the great weapon option is a downgrade, which makes it really easy to turn them into pincushions
>>170623719
rell
Only recently messed around with the Brettonia DLC.
I thought they were a kingdom that worshiped the feet lady? Why are they 3 separate factions that start the game borderline hostile to each other? Does not seem to make any sense to me.
>>170658878
I AM CRASHING THIS BADLANDSBOWL
>>170658489
you'd know the answer if you were a real dwarf
drown your people in mead. they can't be SJWs if they're blacking out in their own beards
>>170658676
Maybe this is a steel faith thing then.
>>170658813
Probably, no matter what I do the game decides give me the warning about downgrading textures. I'm well over the specs for it so I just gave up after a while.
>>170649974
EMPIRE'S BLESSINGS, YES
>>170623239
Quick! What campaign difficulty and battle difficulty do you play on?
>>170656976
That was Hitler thinking out loud in 1945. he was trying to explain how Germany could have been defeated. If you think he was actually pro-islamic you're a fucking retard.
>>170659270
Is steel faith really as good as people claim?
It seems interesting but playing anything other than vanilla always feels weird to me
The Picts, Ebdanians and Caledonians remind me of the Power Rangers
can you get the Red Duke in campaign if you confederate with Mousillon?
>>170658990
>feet lady
Feet Enchantress is just ze Lady's representative.
>Why are they 3 separate factions
Because uniting Bretonnia is supposed to be a thing - and sub-factions are fun.
>borderline hostile
They're a bunch of squabbling nobles, but they'd never attack each other. That'd be unchivalrous.
>>170659496
VH/Normal or VH/VH, depends on the campaign. I've been trying to get into Legendary recently, butno pausingis rough.
>>170659565
if you're one of those people, just stick to vanilla, kid.
we don't even want you enjoying mods lol.it's bretty good senpai
>>170659496
Very Hard/Normal
Normal battles do feel a bit too easy sometimes but at the same time having enemy units like Goblins stand their ground couragously like Greatswords just feels retarded.
>>170659496
VH/normal
I'm playing against a friend in vs campaign, he's VC and I'm Warriors of Chaos. How do I build Archaon? Do I bother getting the red perks (chosen bonuses) or do I just go with horde growth + yellow shit?
>>170658489
Afaik, the unjust/kind traits are opposing ends of a spectrum. You gain a rank in either (ranks go from -3 to +3 obedience respectively) of them by accruing a certain number of points. You have a chance to get points whenever you select the appropriate action after a battle. Ransoming captives gives you points towards kind; killing/enslaving them counts towards unjust. TLDR you will have to ransom captives with the lord in question, but it may take a while.
>>170623719
no more elves just did a playthrough
>>170658990
Bretonnian hierarchy is
Puddle Lady (the godess) > King (Louen) > Feet Elf > Dukes > minor nobles > horses > other animals > animal shit > merchants class > peasants
the society is structured that everything and everyone who lives on Britonnia soil is a subject and object to the King, he is the owner (like a landlord) he "gives" the plots of land to the dukes, they to their lesser nobles and those to the peasants and merchants.
while Bretonnia is split it is either because in times of peace the land gives the minor dukedoms free range, but their're still subject to the King, or Gameplay mechanics, because you shouldn't start in a whole kingdom while Thorgrim and K.F.C must beg everybody to partake in their birthday parties don't know really, i'm not up to date with Bretonnian lore.
>>170658990
Look at the tech, you tech into making them friendly and confederating with them.
Tell me /twg/, what are the best Medieval 2 mods that aren't third age, stainless steel, EBII or CoW and the other warhammer mods?
>>170623719
Anything but Elves, I fucking hate elves in every single fucking game
Remove Bretonnian niggers
Is it possible to leave all the sub-factions of Empire and/or Bretonnia intact and work with them the whole playthrough?
Whenever I start creating something like this, they eventually decide to just kill each other and I'm forced to absorb the offender or camp an army near them until they cease.
>>170660164
sadly no, sub factions prey on each others weaknesses and try to eat eachother like Skaven, the only thing that you could do is, to cheat so the factions become your vassal's
>>170660095
Pround of you
>>170660095
Literally worse than Chaos.
>>170652826
Don't dwarfs pretty much have the best units all around? Like they are just an upgraded Empire, and their only real downside is shit mobility, but who cares when your units never break and rek shit
>>170635987
Free chaos spawn, melee lord, pretty cost effective.
>>170659993
tay enchantress isnt an elf you dumb faggot. neither is the lady since the end times arent real
>>170660497
look, a bretfag
where my steam tank at?
OK boys, what's the plan?
>>170660715
Steam tanks are inferior to lances.
>Running an army that's exclusively handgunners and steam tanks for kicks
feels good
>>170660771
HOLD THE CROSSING AT ANY COST
>>170660901
They're not moving
>>170652826
This just isn't true.
It's like you've just tried to think about everything aside from it's cost which defies the whole point.
>>170659496
VH/N
>>170660869
say hello to my lil renaissance friends, you bow-using horse-fucking medieval peasants
>>170661002
well, ehm that's good since the crossing is yours.
just send one unit of archers to attack them and they will go full berserk
>>170660624
>since the end times arent real
this again
>>170661040
>that gear
senpai those are at least principes-tier, and even they didn't get shin guards.
>>170661002
>"oh shit, unlike the billion battles against the AI that I fight where I form a neat line with archers and cavalry ready to sandwich the shitty AI while they came walk towards me, I'm forced to actually move and attack for once"
I've noticed that these are stupidly overvalued in autoresolve, to the point where I think steel faith fucked up some numbers. You could probably cheese your way through empire with full stacks of these, they don't cost much more upkeep than greatswords.
>>170661260
You think forcing the enemy into an unfavourable position taking advantage is somehow... wrong? Should I endeavor to play at a disadvantage?
>>170661453
All autoresolve is a fucking cheese.
>it's another "vampire cucks have to be reminded of the power of humankind" episode
Seriously, every fucking campaign as the Empire
>wreck marienburg and traitor fucking shits
>fuck over skarsnik shit
>expand into the middenland
>vampire cucks think they're hot shit and invade
>destroy them
>again
>>170660771
hold there forever until discrete forces cross the river another way. there should be an option to simply hold position while you go back to the main world, and your army there simply cannot move anymore unless you fight or retreat, the game forcing you back into the battle screen when the enemy decides to change tactics instead of just sitting there.
>>170660771
Why did Warhams drop virtually all of the "special" map types? Will map mods save us?
>>170661458
t. tw noobfags who know nothing else than camping on a hill while retarded AI comes up to them
>>170661916
I keep them around for the money and kicks (just walk over and loot one of their ghettos like Oberstyre every few turns, is good money desu senpai) I just cheesed mannlet into giving me 10,000 gold for a peace treaty nigga
>>170661609
I wouldn't autoresolve any battle with these anyway, you just don't build cool shit like this and never use it.
Whatever
>>170662132
>not removing vampire fucking shits as soon as you can
Do you even shield of humankind?
>>170662046
Map mods are coming along nicely apparently
I still havent bothered to try any of them because I'm a lazy fuck that's waiting for big compilations of maps and the last one I tried just crashed my game
>>170662327
I'm shielding the ever living shit out of civilization senpai
do you know how much gold has my vampire pimping project poured into the development of the state and betterment of the people
>>170662365
>big compilations of maps
That's what I'm counting on, yeah. Hopefully it'll happen.
>>170655968
Fcm are more hammer than a ranged unit. Crossbowmen are better at engaging ranged units. Fcm should be just pushing through and firing into the back of a unit
would you say warhammer is the most micro-intensive TW?
>>170662832
Yes, though it depends on your army. You can get by with units that require less micro just fine.
>>170662832
fuck no
>>170625356
can't ghorst overcast his summon spell to summon grave guard?
>>170662832
>5 minute battles
>massive assymetry in battles
>heroes/lords/mages who you have to micromanage specifically
>small slips or mistakes can cost battles
oh yes, this is the hardest one by far. I'm using a slow-combat mod and it still feels super fast
Who else /BrokenCrescent/ here? Restoring the Eastern Roman Empire and killing me some roaches and sandshits.
>>170662832
probably, due to spells and active abilities alone, but its also more casual, taking out formations, dismount, etc
they made it a clickspam game but it feels less rewarding and less fun to actually do the gaming part
>>170625356
>Meanwhile vamp cunts in my game are cutting my units down by the men
>Even as they crumble, they are defiling my good empire boys
>enemy has five 3-unit armies
>>170663445
>>170663617
The Empire endures, fellow elector count
Let's settle this once and for all.
Franks or Saxons?
>>170663445
>Eastern """""Roman""""" "Empire"
>>170663905
Learned my mistake, took a peace treaty gonna come back with more boys to put the vamp cunts on crosses in the sun.
>>170663952
WRE
>>170663952
franks
>>170663445
I liked the idea of it when I first tried it but it seemed like the AI didn't make any full stacks. I tried Cilicia Armenia and some African country. In the latter I declared war on the Fatimids and got all the way to Cairo without encountering any serious resistance.
>>170664095
>Worst Roman Empire
>>170664053
Enlighten them
>>170663829
Good thing I have a copypasta to counter your (((infographics))). Also i'm Orthodox so I really could care less about a bunch of backstabbing Latin cunts getting smacked around for a bit.
Daily reminder that T*rkroaches got beaten repeated by tiny Serbia and suck at warfare.
Battle of Gallipoli in 1312
Battle of Dubravnica in 1381
Battle of Pločnik in 1386
Battle of Kosovo (Pyrrhic)
Battle of Tripolje in 1402
Ottoman invasion of Serbia in 1425
Ottoman invasion of Serbia in 1427
Ottoman invasion of Serbia in 1437
Ottoman invasion of Serbia in 1438
Ottoman invasion of Serbia (1439–44)
Crusade of Varna
Battle of Nish (1443)
Battle of Kunovica in1444
Ottoman invasion of Serbia (1454–55)
Battle of Kruševac in 1454
Battle of Leskovac in 1454
Ottoman invasion of Serbia in 1456
Siege of Belgrade in 1456
Modern day:
War of Independence:
Battle of Drlupa
Battle of Svileuva
Battle of Adakale
Battle of Jagodina
Battle of Ivankovac (18 August 1805)
Battle of Rudnik
Battle of Vrbica
Battle of Mišar (12–15 August 1806)
Battle of Deligrad (December 1806)
Siege of Belgrade (1806)
Battle of Tičar
Battle of Loznica
Battle of Ljubić
The entire Serbian-Turkish war
The entire Balkan War
>>170664372
I will bring light to the dark foreboding places of the world. Maybe first with a couple of fireballs from crazy hippy wizard man with flaming passions.
>>170663905
SUMMON
>>170664049
>Eastern Half of Roman Empire
>Almost all historians agree its the Roman Empire
>Some retarded nigger says "le Greeks not Romans hur dur" even when Greek had been the dominant language in the East even before Rome conquered it.
Rely meeks u tink
>>170663749
>Medieval 2
>the AI can have two armies on the field
>you have to turn control of one of yours to the retarded AI, if not it'll just sit at the edge of the battle map
>>170664313
Really? AI never had problems making stacks for me, though the Christian factions don't produce a lot of cav.
>>170664484
Tips for Chaos multiplayer? I keep finding that I can never bring a balanced force that isn't tiny, and my units just don't perform well enough to compensate.
Is the campaign movement bonus and the 10% unit discount on high tier units worth taking the faction leader as your legendary lord?
It just seems that you give up some interesting unique LL campaign effects just to have a slight logistical buff to your armies, not to mention the faction leader's unlock requirements are imo the fastest and cheapest ones
Anyone tried an empire army with nothing but hand gunners, mortars/hellstorms/helblasters and steam tanks as the front line?
>>170665842
depends on the faction
for most there are better options
>>170665542
>Shaghots are awesome
>forsaken are awesome
>all chaos warriors are awesome
>knights with lances are great
>Kholek is a beast
>lore of death sorc
>manticores
>aspiring champions are god tier
>both marauders are good as meathsileds when supported by Aspiring champions
>CHOSEN are overpriced as fuck and you should never pick them
>marauder horsemaster are a good scirmish cavalry unit
>poison doggos are useful
>chaos lord with blight mace and potions is awesome
Now try to counterpick your opponent with that knowledge
>>170665923
>Chaos chariot spam says hi
>>170665217
ONLY
TO
RISE
AGAIN.
I can't wait for you Amerisharts to withdraw from the world, then we can exterminate those fucking Albanians illegally squatting on Serbian land.
KOSOVO JE SRBIJA.
>>170665842
campaign movement is that important, it alone makes the other choices not even worth considering.
>>170665107
It's possible I was missing some important patch or fix. It's been over a year so I don't remember. I'm on Stainless Steel currently.
Speaking of which:
>invading Byzantium as Sicily
>Byzantine general, 30 men in total, makes a frontal charge against one of my spearmen units (150 men)
>he proceeds to wipe them out completely
This is with a nerf to cavalry applied. And then when I go to the forum to see if anyone has raised any complaints, I see some faggots responding with shit that can be summed up as "thats what it was like in real lyfe :)" or "git gud".
>>170665842
>not ignoring the stats and just picking whoever seems most interesting
Minmaxing is pointless.
why isn't there anything like pic related for Vlad yet?
>>170666261
ask me about Age of Shitmar
Can I do it? Fuck, Chaos has me so scared right now I am not sure.
>>170666121
Well to be fair the Byzantine heavy cavalry didn't fuck around when it came to armor, but I agree Spear infantry is fucking useless against anything above mounted Sergeants. Speaking of which, whats your steam? I really want to play SS against something other then the dumbshit AI but all of my TW buddies are too autistic/lazy to download it correctly.
>>170666558
>2 tanks
>4 demys
>halbeards/handguns/greatsword
Nah, you're fucked
>>170666558
Just suck it up and accept that those cannons will fuck your shit.
>>170666558
easy, rush battlechickens into their canons and dragon ogre, hold the line with floppy hats whilst shooting the shit out of their army with your gunners, flank them with the halbs, if you finished their cav and clean the rest with your tanks
>>170662832
Some factions yeah, with spells & formations.
Like using Wind of Death alone requires enough micro that it might cost you the game but if you get off a decent one it's ace.
But a faction like dwarves doesn't really need to do shit.
I do miss old spear walls though. They apparently do it automatically now anyway, but you can tell it's not nearly as good.
In Atilla I had 3 spear wall units hold off like 9 cav units with help from a nearby guard tower. In Warhammer that would never happen because no spear wall. It's a shame as well because more clumped unit formations would be great for magic to counter.
No dismounting also pisses me off to no end. The only reason you can't dismount in TT is because the model is literally glued to the horse, you don't need to follow those rules in a video game.
>>170666001
Yeah that's my only major worry, other than that though it shhould work just fine yeah?
>>170666042
for me, it's just that +5% seems like something that only exists to offset the -5% the accidental procrastinator trait
>>170666219
it's not that I'm minmaxing, I love the shit out of karl franz and yet the other lords let you play differently like having early access to the lore of metal or running around with a bunch of flagellants and it's fun having reverse aspiring champion armies when you pick ungrim because of his lord skills making slayers get insane melee attack and the discount lets him actually field a decent amount of them
>playing greenskins
>go north to fight vampires
>everything is a 60+% corruption wasteland with Varg and Skaeling all over the place
Humies were a mistake
>>170666568
Would like to, Anon, but my internet is atrocious, so I doubt it'd be any fun.And my Steam name is atrociously cringe, I made it when I was 11, don't want anyone to read it.
>>170666985
you can change it, but they can still see what it used to be if they really wanted to know
>>170666985
No one can see your account name, and you can change your profile name
>>170666446
What about Age of Smegma?
>>170666838
>everyone keeps saying that Dorfs don't require all that much micro
>tfw having a much easier time as Vampires in legendary fights
>>170667090
it was 40K in Warhammer Fantasy and it blows
heh, nuttin personal... git
>>170667156
>everyone keeps saying that Dorfs don't require all that much micro
they don't really.
here is literally every dwarf battle I've played
>deploy so arty is in range so they are forced to charge me
>try and use a hill so I don't have to put any ranged units at risk
>focus all ranged units on enemy lord as he charges headfirst into my army (use a lot of thunderers)
>shoot their melee units before starting on their ranged units to ensure minimum loses
>battle is won
If any cav is in the mix it gets a bit more intense with miners but still pretty comfy.
Can I get some advice for playing Charlemagne horsefuckers?
>>170657075
Thera
>launching goblins with a catapult
Clan Angrund best clan.
>>170669624
REVENGE INCARNATE
>>170669624
I wonder why greenskins get affected by the leadership penatly, considering THEY FUCKING DO IT AS WELL AND ALSO WAY MORE OFTEN WITH DOOM DIVER CATAPULTS.
>>170666985
Tell you what, heres my steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/seleucidbully
You can add me if you want, just know Idgaf how bad your internet is or your steam name, I just want to play SS in multiplayer.
>>170669870
Anon, you don't appear to own Warhammer.
>>170664965
fucking hated that shit in Call of warhmmer
What's the best game to exterminate Serbs in? Outside of USAF flight sims of course.
>>170670921
laffs
>>170671354
Victoria 2.
Conquer the region, instate oppressive policies, and see that Serb majority dwindle under the influx of your core culture's immigrants, to eventually become a minority within their own (former) country. Victoria 2 is great for that sort of cultural genocide stuff, and there's mods that heavily expand on the whole concept too.
>>170626928
Underrated post.
Pretty new to TW series, but I played a ton of Shogun 2 and then I moved on to Rome II. Why does rome feel so awful to play? Do later games fix that?
>>170672224
>Why does rome feel so awful to play?
It's a shit game and literally every design decision CA made when making the game was bad.
>Do later games fix that?
Yes. Some of the gay shit remains but Attila and Warhammer are a lot of fun.
>>170669870
That's a nice ERE Pepe
But check this
>>170626463
Just Stickla would work well I think. Goes well with Gobbla.
So I'm marching north as Chaos moves south as Dwarves.
Vampires are salty at me and I feel like anything could tip them over, but as of now they haven't done shit to me
Should I just remove them on my march north? I don't want them to turn around and fuck me while chaos fucks me too. I'm right at the vampire border desu
Himyar anon here, I think its time for the ERE to recognize Judaism as their official religion
>>170673808
Drakenhof's a bitch to take, even as Dorfs. Bring a few stacks to bring it down quickly or just focus on Chaos. They wont bother your lands too much if they end up declaring war on you
Tell me man-flesh, what clan is the best clan.And why is it the clan Skryre?
>>170674258
rat genocide best day of my life
>>170673808
Trust me, Vampires exist solely to be as much of a pain in your dawi ass as they can, especially through the fucking corruption. Delete bloodsuckers. As bonus points, I'm sure you have some grudges against them.
>>170674050
Any castle/city is only as hard as you make it. Just bring 2 cannons, focus them on side towers and wreck their undead shit.
>play Empire
>Karl Franz, greatest statesman the Old World has ever seen!
>I can't even get a trade agreement on 'moderate', even after offering 3000 ducats
>play as Bretonnia
>every single human faction sucks my dick, no questions asked; even without the diplo techs
Why
>>170637658
Too bad they had to go ahead and ruin the greatest fantasy IP of all time, period, before they started moving in a "better direction".
>>170674662
chivalry
>>170674662
Sometimes the Empire campaign seems like it was made to fuck the player in the ass specifically. So far I'm finding it unnecesarily tough, bland and unrewarding.
>>170674662
Lou has beakie and feet goddess backing him up. franny doesnt have any equals that can help him
also its lore that a lot of people dont accept him as emperor and thats what shit like marienburg and middheim represent. i think both of those counts were in the running to be the next emperor or something like that
>>170639223
They are in the process of doing so right now.
They will pretty much revert it to a kind of noblebright 30k setting instead of going full AoS but still pretty bad.
>>170674987
Marienburg is a breakaway province. They were originally part of... S-something-Land.
Carroburg was originally capital of it's own province as well but after they played host to literally the shittiest emperor of all time they were absorbed my Middenland.
>>170673808
>vampires
>ever stabbing people in the back when they're focused on trying to stop chaos from taking over the world
Yeah that doesn't sound like a certain below-average-height vampire at all.
fug mayne
religious map of my empire
>>170674908
From what I understand the Empire campaign should be labelled Hard now since all the stuff they've added since launch shits on them very hard..
>>170659496
H/H on the first dip, then VH/H
This might just be one of those completely wrong intuitions, but I'd like to share it in this forum - I feel like on Hard battles, you see way less route cycling, since you kill more of the unit's combatants before they first route, they're less likely to de-route and come back for that ass.
>>170675731
beastmen coming in right after you secure reikland threw me off first time it happened, that and bretonnia now beelining marienburg and most likely securing it is a huge ramp in difficulty.
kind of insane how much of a difference marienburg makes, really.
>>170659496
Legendary
How in the fuck do I counter wood elve players in multiplayer battles as Empire? It seems no matter what unit combo I use, they just rape me with arrows, and my arty always fucking misses every shot because all they do is just ride fast and shoot me with tree nigger arrows .
>>170662832
I'm usually a massive anti-micro person, but Warhams is the first game I've played in years where I actually enjoy the micro.
>>170675727
Here's mine
>>170675962
In the campaign I'm playing now on VH/VH, Khazrak showed up with like, a couple units of ungors and his minotaurs at 7 units.
>Move Karl to Helmgart once I see him on the map.
>You intercepted an army that was trying to use the beast paths!
>Beastmen have been erradicated.
Whelp.
>>170649103
Raze Grung Zint.
>>170661453
>Elfblaster
nice
>>170676141
Horse archers? Foot archers
Foot archers? Cavalry
>>170676141
Volkmar has flaming attacks
You want a fire wizard, and possibly even a light wizard, but just for the net
you want the silver bullets because their magical damage will fuck up trees/forest spirits, and they go invisible unless the enemy is really close to them, which prevents them from getting arrow of kurnosed/flock of doomed to death
KotBS
>all these weenies playing on N or H battle difficulty
ayy lmao
>>170676564
Oh yeah big guy? How many layers of difficulty are YOU playing on?
>>170676725
If you ain't on max then don't move those stacks
>>170652134
No way a medieval serf gave away even close to that, farming did not yield so great surpluses.
>>170667952
what N64 game is this?
>>170677104
Problem Child 2
Some questions lads.
1. The Dorf start, I always go south but by the time I've claimed everything down there generally everything north of me is ruined and it's a case of splatting chaos them game over. Has anyone ever tried going north in a Dorf campaign to start? I mean trying to push up to Sjoktrakken. Seems like you'd have a very interesting time of it.
2. I visited leddit's version of TWG today. Why is everything reddit touches turned to shit?
3. I've never closely followed a CA title to this level before, the kind of interest where I check for news on it daily. Do we have any idea when the sequel is going to be or when Old Friend might drop?
>>170655461
Roleplaying as Skarsnik is hella fun in and of itself.
The Skarsnik novel is fucking GOAT, I enjoy naming my night goblins after characters and tribes in the book.
Also the "die like flies but achieve victory for the glory of the warlord" is very lore-friendly.
>>170677181
>playing as dwarfs
If you want to go to sleep you may as well close your eyes
>>170677181
1. yes
2. dilution
3. no, no
BALTHASAR
Decided to start an Empire campaign as Volkmar (holy shit they're in a much tougher spot now).
Gonna go as religious as I can with his specific army; flagellants, knights of the blazing sun, warrior priests etc to the fucking max.
>>170677181
>I've never closely followed a CA title to this level before, the kind of interest where I check for news on it daily. Do we have any idea when the sequel is going to be or when Old Friend might drop
We are going to be waiting a while for the expansion/any news on it outside of confirmation that they are working on it. Old friend is likely what we will hear about next, but the description of it is so vague no one really knows what it will be (just a new lord/new lord w/ faction upgrade/new lord w/ new units as well)
>>170675651
>>170674583
>>170674050
Alright I will be removing vampires. All they have is Templehof and Drakenhof anyways, + 1 army, and frankly I don't trust these blood sucking cunts
I only need the empire
is pistolkorp worth the 3 points, the 12%+ ammo and damage doesn't seem much since the most you'll get out of it is 3 shots and 3 damage at the most per unit
>>170677792
Compare it to Honest Steel for just two seconds
What a splendid way to make money!
>>170623719
BIG MONEY BIG MONEY NO WHAMMY NO WHAMMY STOP
>>170677713
Raze their shit to the ground. Reduce them to rubble.
They're probably responsible for a thousand various grudges over the years. Even if they aren't, they're over-due for a righting of wrongs.
>462 ad
>not only are the wre still alive, they are getting stronger
>Turn 110
>Time to check up on Empire and VC-
>Zombies and Swordsmen
>On turn 110
>On Legendary
fuck vanilla. I always get my high tier shit ready for a showdown and there is jack shit to fight
>>170678328
Be sure to destroy them by Autumn 476 AD.
>>170678328
pic
last time i checked on them they only had 21 provinces
>>170677354
Thanks. Could you expound on dilution if you've time?
>>170677657
Remember anon. Sigmar will guide you. Also having tried going full religious crusade with the empire, I'd strongly consider getting middenheim early if you can.
Also have fun. It's a blast as Pimpmaster Volkmar.
Especially once you get his wagon. >>170677792
>>170677964
The second anon is totally correct. It's sad how naff pistolkorps is. Also I rarely find space for outriders once my armies get up the tiers so they're just wasted points.
>>170677679
The wait is killIng me. I know this is what CA wants and the hype train is at full steam but I've not been this genuinely excited by a game in forever.
>>170677792
It's literally the best skill in the entire game. Multiply the bonus damage by 90, and then remember that it kicks in every fifteen seconds or so.
Would you take this deal?
Upsides:
>Half of athel loren, half of carcassone, and a third of estalia.
>Reasonable guarantee this one tribe of elves won't pull some knife eared bullshit on me while we deal with Archaon who literally just showed up.
>Elf armies will be subject to the emperor's will and may be useful against chaos and greenskins.
>First line of defense against orion and durthu DOW is now elves, not men.
>Making this pussyboi elf twink my personal bitch.
Downsides are:
>The human territories they hold are locked out of me claiming them unless I savagely betray them later.
>They recover their strength and may betray me, maybe not though.
>The bretonnians probably hate them for their bullshit and at some point I will probably have to choose between fighting men to defend elves, or breaking a vassal treaty and losing every single NAP/trade agreement/military access I have for being "unreliable."
>Trusting in elves.
>Kek is an Egyptian God
So he'd fit in with the Kangz
>Kek is a frog
But Lizardmen are led by pepes
Which fits better, Tomb Kangz or Lizards?
>>170678949
Kek is a chaotic god. Lord Kroak is pretty much the opposite.
>>170678932
The elves will confederate next round and you'll lose your vassal. Not worth it.
>>170679143
Confederations are disabled for every faction.
>>170678080
>or your money back crossed out
its the little things
>>170678932
>elves
>any answer that isn't genocide
Sigmar no longer smiles upon you anon.
As the Huns Should I just raze everyone until the last settlement and then make them tributary state??
>download Steel Faith overhaul
>Try out a coop orc campaign
>pretty nice I guess
>friend goes to bed
>I decide to try some VampireCunts
>get wrecked at the first siege
>notice the upgraded skelly hold
>grave guards without needing armory
oh happy days
turn 4 grave guards is pretty neat
>siege with 2 armies
>climb all the walls and scare the humans witless
>encircle them in the last plaza and close in from all sides
>endless waves of undead until they finally flee in terror
he upped the unitcount on zombies and skellies so there's a fuckton of them meatwalling everything forever. zombies has ~10k health
>>170679385
you should just raze everyone, period. Good luck with the heat-seeking ai though
>>170678732
bigger sample size, wider cross section of humanity = more casuals especially compared to a 4chan containment thread = more casual
plus, girls being in anything that belongs to men
>>170679402
I'm millitantly in favour of steel faith to the extent that I can't enjoy the base game without it.
I don't know what it is but all those little tweaks make the game 110% more comfy.
>>170679402
The yuge unit counts on Gobboz make them pretty fun too
>>170679574
I'm grateful. That gives some food for thought. I've been trying to identify what it is about reddit that makes my skin crawl.
>>170623719
ROLLAN
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>when u present a weakpoint in the defenses and they take the bait
>>170678949
Kek is a Lord of Change wearing a Great Unclean One's form.
>>170678732
Most people who played the campaign know that flat bonuses beat out percentage by a very large margin, it's just that when I google this stuff people actually take pistolkorp so im wondering if im missing something
>>170679859
>>170680140
you take it on legendary lords who are going to be using tank/greatsword/handgunner stacks and leave honest steel for your killable lords. rank 9 handgunners with extra ammo and gun damage is ok.
>>170623009
If you ignore that he fucked up a world which was litteraly saved by everyone combined even the evil dudes and initated age of sigmar which get's played by, let`s see..
>>170627129
It depends there are few spells that are somewhat op but it sure as hell beats vanilla where you can waste like 20 magic to damage a single unit by 10 to 20 percent
>>170679607
I've had so many more nailbiter moments in SFO, real knock down drag out fights throughout the champagne
You came to the wrong thread, Christian.
>>170680358
Wurzag in SFO has some spell which is op as fuck. It's just a green bubble thing which is impossible to dodge. It will take a unit of Dorfs to about 40% hp every time.
Fuck you Wurzag
Sigmar have mercy on our souls, for what we have done this day.
The legions are crossing the river Reik, it's time to fuck up the everchosen.
>>170679859
>>170680271
Slick shit, son.
>tfw a horde comes into your undefended lands and a friendly army comes along and smacks them up
Finally hit 100k/turn in trade, here is a breakdown of the resources
Resource Name: Producing (Exporting%)=Income
>Spice: 640(43%)=6720
>Lead: 320(87%)=1680
>Furs:160(100%)=2720
>Silk: 640(43%)=7840
>Wood: 160(100%)=960
>Dyes: 340(82%)=5880
>Olive Oil: 320(87%)=2240
>Gems: 240(100%)=8880
>Salt: 160(100%)=2080
>Marble: 60(100%)=780
>Iron: 160(100%)=1280
>Wine: 20(100%)=340
Best trade agreement is w/ the WRE for 48,726
According to the stats, I've made 7,349,633 from trading so far this campaign
I want to replay Vamps, but not as any of the Von Carsteins. So who is more fun to start with, Kemmler or Ghorst? To start, I'm leaning towards Ghorst if only because his ability to give poison to his entire army.
I hate how defensive the AI is. The stupid dilemma of the AI never playing to win and always sitting on its city, forcing the player, who wants to win, to send 2-3 stacks to just take over a city. Also how an AI with two cities can afford three whole stacks
And no I'm not playing on easy or normal. Trying to take Marienburg is terrible and I don't feel like playing those awful siege maps and come out with a pyrrhic victory
>>170681437
Income/Expenditures as of this point in the campaign
Update on my Volkmar campaign;
As I was sieging Marienburg two half-stacks of beastmen ran into my territory from Bretonnia and Wissenland and promptly razed two of my settlements, beelining for the third as I tried to finish the siege (to stop the marienburgers from fucking me in the arse)
BUT I WILL NOT RESTART
NO, IT IS THE ENEMY THAT SHALL TASTE DEATH AND DEFEAT
Then again, I'm only like 14 turns in.
>>170681668
>send two stacks to Marienburg if they have one garrisoned
>wait 7 turns for them to starve
>win
Now that wasn't so hard
Sometimes when I watch videos people do attack and move orders where they drag and create a custom path for the unit to follow.
How the fuck do you do that?
I think units of renown are a stupid mechanic. You can thoroughly outwit an enemy and one turn later they come back while you're weak from battle with a full stack of unbreakable purple units because they're dwarf cunts with infinite income.
>>170682056
Shift click my dude
>>170681437
just finished upgrading my new gem chain in sahara, and now am making 10k/turn just from my gem exports
>>170682056
shift+right click/drag, but it only works in attila/wh iirc
>>170681623
Ghorst's starting bonuses are retarded good.
>>170682075
pay2win
get the mod that disables RoR for all factions.
>>170681668
>wanting to autoresolve large battles
>against marienburg, the vilest enemy of the empire
>>170681858
should've read the empire guide senpai, beastmen and skull takerz come to reikland asap to screw with the player, honoring their secret allegiance to marienburg's jewish council along with the skullsmasherz
that is a whole lot of armies for a faction that only owns 3 settlements
>>170656820
>daemon prince
He's a greater daemon, not a daemon prince
Greater Daemons are naturally occurring Chaos beings, Daemon Princes are elevated to Greater Daemon status after being mortals who serve the Dark Gods especially
Valkia is a Daemon Prince(ss), Sar'tho'ra'el is a Greater Daemon- you can tell because of the syllables in his name. The more syllables a Daemon has the stronger they are.
Sometimes they become gods, supposedly Hashut and the Great Horned Rat are daemons of Khorne and Tzeetch/Nurgle that became gods and created their own races (respectively) to worship them. Worship of course increases a Chaos God's power.
>>170623719
Roollll
A few threads ago I recall people posting about a Cthulu religion in Atilla. Can you make an empire dedicated to this religion? I would pick up Atilla just for that.
>>170666834
>Flanking with halbs
What. Halbs are the ones with charge resistance.
>>170682638
Yes its possible, if you settle in a region with a high enough amount of "minor religions" influence, you can convert your empire to the worship of that religion, which has buildings that reference lovecraftian stuff
>>170682751
That sounds pretty neat, are there any mechanics or units or objectives or anything like that unique to the religion?
Does anyone ever notice random spear units disappearing from their army in Attila? I swear it always happens at least once in my campaigns where a spear unit will go missing. Its really annoying late-game when you have to go all the way back to your military province just to get a spearmen unit with all the upgrades
>>170682969
no not really
>When 4 units of Eternal Guard and Orion hold off 16 units of Tilean Infantry while your Gorillion archers go to work.
Eternal Guard heroism knows no bounds, brings a year to my eye every time they they heroically stand against overwhelming oddsm
>>170682390
Hashut and GHR are minor Chaos beings unaffiliated with the Great Powers, like Malal. They have always existed and were born at the moment someone started worshiping them.
>>170683263
so if enough people worship something it becomes a god?
>>170630560
Whats the green necklace bald dlc man like?
>>170683427
that's how it works here, senpai.
>>170683427
Yes, Sigmar left his hammer and wandered off into the northern wastes like a sick old animal to die, and a few hundred years later people started receiving miracles from their faith in him.
>>170678495
Do they still hold the eternal city?
>>170683728
>lore of metal that high
gelt please go
>>170683427
>>170683697
That's actually pretty cool
>>170677181
2. Bruh reddit has been slowly dying for awhile now. Where the fuck do you think all these newfags keep coming from?
Give me a quick rundown on couched lance damage
>>170684080
s'gud
>>170677181
I always make it a point to save Kraka Drak every time I start as Grombrindal.
>>170683879
no, italy is currently held by separatists, but they have held onto most of spain/africa
>>170683908
It's kinda like Tinkerbell, the more you believe in them the more real and powerful they are. Each race kinda revolves around their own deity, with the exception of those that outright worship Chaos.
Sigmar, Mork and Gork, The Great Rat, Hashut, etc.
>>170682014
how do you get two stacks as bretonnia early game?
SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE!
>>170682638
Yes there are a couple provinces with minor religions dominance. You can move there, and change your religion to it. It actually is quite dank.
>>170684383
The Lady
>>170684390
By completely ignoring Marienburg and quickly confederating to get an easy 1-2 stacks free
Any more questions?
>>170684437
Kek she's just an elf slut
EH YOUTUBE WHAT THE CRAPS GOIN ON HEIR OF CARTHAGE HERE
>have vampires backed into a corner
>begging for their life by trying to bribe me
haha fucking blood suckers I'm going to fuck them up so hard
>>170684602
>its another SUPER INSANE MASSIVE CLOSE SIEGE BATTLE EPIC ENDING battle
>>170684532
>quickly confederating
This seems to be entirely luck. You're looking at about 9 turns before you get the first confederation tech and in that time the other factions around you already have a large enough stack to tell you to fuck off.
Every time I try this, it doesn't work. And what's worse is they won't leave their stupid fucking castles to fight anybody and get weaker.
>>170683223
This, They don't get many kills but they hold the line and make a superb anvil. Pepper shit down with archers and hammer the fuck out of the backlines with wild riders and you got yourself some seriously sexy shit.
>>170684542
>Thinking Age of Sigmar is relevant
What order do you tend to wipe out factions?
I always go for the bloodsuckers, followed by the elves.
>>170681668
>Marienburg
>You build a full stack
>Declare war
>Hide Franz near your settlement
>they send one stack
>Your eradicate it
>they send another stack
>You do the same to it
>Siege marienburg
Better to start out without any RoR bought, then buy them up to fill in unit gaps. You will also need your pastures+farms up for that reinforcement bonus as well as merging units to keep them from being eradicated
Tested 4 helblasters against a unit of max-rank grail guardians on open ground
Honestly, the guardians almost won
>>170681668
>he didn't watch Legend of Total War's let's play showing you to cheese the Marienburg seige and conquer them turn 2 with almost no casualties on Legendary difficulty
I must protect the northern border of WRE-chan!
>>170684173
Does couched lance damage give you experience in polearms?
>>170684752
The main thing is just difference in strength and if they feel threatened, Lyonese is great for a starter since they only have one province and will probably be at war with Mousillon. Bastone works too since they'll prob be busy fighting dwarves and after that you can get the ball rolling. Also taking Burger Town isn't bad because with a full stack that's enough to make Artois flip for Leoncur.
>>170685386
Firstly, yes, secondly, go back to /mbg/
>>170685386
Give me the gestalt on who created the couched lance
>>170685332
what game is that
>>170685571
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>170685571
The legend of Zelda: breath of the wild
>>170685386
>>170685479
Lol I didn't realise this was the total war general. You literally /mbg/ in the title
>>170685571
Medieval : Total War : Viking Invasion
>>170685571
can you not fucking read hombre, get back on your side of the wall
New DLC when?
>>170685994
New FLC for Templehoff vampires soon
>>170686307
Is this a meme, vamps already have the most LCs.
>>170686376
no
then after that kemmler will get his own wacky faction as aundead horde
>>170686376
CA only cares about vampires
I assume its because they both have no souls
>>170686421
>kemmler will get his own wacky faction
With Krell as the special old friend?plz
>>170686421
>Zombie WAAAAGH