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buff lawbringer edition

Also, running attack out of shove seems to be safe on backrollers.

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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>>170595528
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if >>170595556 doesn't get pushed past 10, there's another thread for after this one.

carry on.
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>>170595581
I tried to trim off things that didn't work to highlight how small the list of useable things is
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>mfw watching warden spam vortex
>mfw watching conqueror spam bash
>mfw watching shugoki spam charge
>mfw watching peacekeeper spam light attacks
>mfw watching warlord spam headbutt
>mfw watching nobushi trying her hardest to kill me despite playing the shittiest character in the game
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AD
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>Getting gangbanged
>Get revenge and pop it off
>Everyone immediately backs up and dodges/runs away until my revenge is done, then continues gangbanging me
So much fun
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>>170595769
>unironically trying to play something other than duels
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>>170595769
How it's supposed to be played.
If they all stayed and fought you toe to toe they'd all die to your hyper armor moves and knockdown bashes/parries
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>>170595814
>Buying a game to only play 2 of the 5 modes
Duels get way to repetitive to only play them
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>>170595581
>>170595679
that one is out of date and has misinformation anyways
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old thread died, posting it here

>>170595296
*they can't fight you

ftfy
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>>170595712
MORTEM
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>they add whirlwind for all characters in 8hours
>already spent 30k on mythic for pk and warden
God damn it. I learned nobushi just to use that idle animation. Gona take me a week or so before i can buy the idle for both.
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>>170595996
>Wasting steel on a common horsefucking whore
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Is anyone else having an odd issue where Paint Patterns on certain parts of armor look really lopsided and not centered?
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>>170595989
INIMICUS
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>>170596072
>horsefucking
>common
???
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>>170595882
>people buying fighting games not for 1v1 fights
But i wouldnt be against dom and others if it wasnt so shit. Which i guess is what you were complaining about
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>>170595996
honestly who gives a shit about all that crap?
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>Hate Skirmish
>Want to level up a new character though and there's a challenge for it
>Suck it up and do Skirmish
>Play through one game no problem
>Second game is just dropped almost ten minutes into the game no credit for it
Gee I sure love these fucking connections. P2P is totally a great idea for modes with 8 players!
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>>170596123
Whoops, didn't mean to post that image yet

but seriously, what gear stats to go for?

Revive speed seems to be the best for arms but if I've got the revive speed feat active I don't need it at all. If I get gear with revive speed though, I could get a passive attack feat instead.

It seems like everything but sprint speed sucks for the chestplate, not sure what to do.
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>>170596181
A lot of people. Not everyone is just fine with looking like the default unlock.
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is there anything more autistic than walking away into the sunshine when you've won a fight?
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>>170595581
Someone should make one of these for Nobushi.
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>>170596123
>Revive Speed
>minimum
What kind of selfish fucker are you?
Also you should max that Execution Health regen if you're trying to play a tanky character. Pick Exhaustion Recovery or Stamina Regen, don't have both.
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>>170596174
I mostly play elimination now because it's the one mode I can stand a chance against the other team even if my team is shit, which it usually is thanks to the matchmaking.
>Ubisoft actually thinks giving me rep 1s without armor for my team and pairing me against a full team of rep 7 or higher perfect armor is perfectly fine
I love the game, but shit like this infuriates me
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>>170596341
gay. you're worse than a woman shopping for blouses.
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>>170596328
God the fucking *teleports and tickles u* animation on PK's gb is just the absolute worst animation in the game.

It's so fucking bad.
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>>170596123
>love Warlord
>hate the way the purple gear Warlord armor looks since it has colored chainmail and I feel compelled to have my colors match the chainmail
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>>170596402
The revive speed perk with minimum revive speed revives faster than max revive speed, there's litteraly no point to having any revive speed if you've got the perk, but I could replace the perk with an attack perk, see >>170596251
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>>170596363
Someone in the comments of the Nobushi tutorial vid made this. It's a start I guess?

http://imgur.com/a/fmE5U
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>>170596356
Intentionally doing nothing so not to offend your opponent.
Literally who fucking cares how mad they get after you beat their ass?
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>>170596515
Its alittle under 1 second. Its pretty much impossible to stop if you give the person any distance.
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>>170596468
>a woman half the size of me grabs my chest
>can't move
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>>170596515
Warlord has a Revive perk feat? Alright, nevermind that's optimal.
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>>170596520
>making nobushi bustier
I hate how this happens to every cute character that has a small chest

Also does she have freckles? An Asian? Is taht a thing?
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>>170596638
>nobody thought to just grab her by the wrists and completely disable her
>nobody thought to take advantage of her in a vulnerable state and rape her on the battlefield
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What is Lawbringers best ornament?
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>>170596802
The one you get from doing the knights story on realistic.
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>when you play Nobushi and just start fucking with the enemy by pressing random buttons in hidden stance
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>>170596554
I think they do it because it looks cool. Like, "Yeah, just another day at the office for this warrior. Call me Sythe, cause I'm fast and deadly. Hehe, nothing personnell kiddo"

Autistic.
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>>170596757
stop
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>Changing the appearance of purple Gear takes 400 Steel
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For the nobroshis,
You can cancel a normal light and heavy attack with hidden stance for better mixups.
>enemy sees light attack startup and slightly quick red sign
>goes to block
>hidden stance switch guard because they cant see which direction you'll attack from
>quick poke that can be followed by a guaranteed poisoning poke if it hits

I havent tried cancelling a light with hidstance and then parrying a parry attempt yet, so im not sure if its fast enough or not
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>>170597017
Also does anyone know if you can parry attacks while you're in hiddenstance?

I feel like it'd make nobushi top tier if she could
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>>170596520
That's messy as shit, but it kinda-sorta gets across that Nobushi can cancel and link a lot of shit together. Most of her flex points include Kick and Hidden Stance.
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>Valkyrie shield crush now chains into light chain
By Odin, I pity the enemies of Valhalla
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>>170597005
Shouldn't happen more than once per gear piece anyways.
That's 2,400 Steel per character, which is fair for a one-time fee.
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>>170596450
this just feels surreal

did you widen the view angle a bunch?
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>>170597017
Nah, hidden stance makes it so you can't do something for at least half a second, that would fuck up the parry timing.

HS is for dodging and getting confirmed bleeds, or canceling recovery and tricking the enemy. I've tried to use it as a feint to bait parry attempts but I feel like regular feints are better for that.

>>170597108
No, the game clearly states Nobu can't block in HS, only dodge. You have to be able to block to parry.
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>>170596328
>when you try to do a running attack but lock on early

I've started to like the noodle hat
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>>170597164
Joke's on you I like getting bullied by Valkyries
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>>170597215
Oh thanks for the clarity.
I tried a few times but i sometimes just fuckup my parries by "predicting" when its going to flash and i time it "too" perfectly or slightly too early

So i wasnt sure if i was just bad

The light attack cancel is pretty good for a pk or smn that just keeps dodging to the side after an attack. Plus you can use it and then next time use heavies > land a heavy on the bleeding guy for massive damage
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>>170597017
>You can cancel a normal light and heavy attack with hidden stance for better mixups.
Your moveset passives tell you this. Nobushi can cancel both startup AND recovery on any standard attack with Hidden Stance.
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>>170597490
Yeah but sometimes you just don't realize stuff like that.
Plus some of the descriptions are completely wrong like the conq shield bash
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>>170597556
You can also use the zone attack as the input for Swift Recoil for some reason.

Truly Nobu is the deepest character with the most tech.
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>>170597372
I don't wanna bully anyone, just murder tincans and weebs then get good and drunk with fellow vikings.
then maybe other stuff after I'm drunk who knows
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>>170596195
Me again
>Actually having a good Skirmish game, we're all just hanging out by the lava river and everyones desperately trying to throw each other in the lava
>Enemy team is breaking
>So close to finishing the game
>CONNECTION ERROR
WHY THE FUCK IS THE CONNECTIONS FOR THE GAME SO FUCKING BAD, HOLY SHIT
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>>170596646
I'm asian and my cousins have freckles. Not mixed either.

>>170597109
I agree, it's sort of a hot mess. I can't be arsed to fix it up though.
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>>170597656
I've had 1 good match today, the rest have been disconnection, I feel your pain.
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>features prominently in all the game's art
>protagonist of the trailer and first one to bring about truces
>one of the only characters with a mostly exposed face and eyes
>does nothing wrong in the campaign and goes undefeated unlike Mary Sue Apollyon or The Warden.
>The Orochi only beat Apollyon in a weakened state thanks to debris and other people wearing her down
Is Raider the game's main character?
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>>170597805
He beat Orochi who beat Apollyon so yes.
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>>170597005
>Get matched with a level 2 Conq four times in elim
>Loading screen
>"Lol I'm not playing against that gear score
>"Toodles"
>Quits
>Did this all four times
I know you're here you shitter
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>>170597652
You sound like a pretty chill dude, good luck in your future battles and drunken spurs. Maybe one day I'll drink with you as we push the weebs and knights back.
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>>170595528
>all those combo's and tecs
>game design is so shit this is what law is reduced to

wew lad
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>>170597871
didn't mean to quote
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>>170597865
>He beat Orochi
When? Unless you count getting away on a boat while Orochi gets belayed by Femsei "beating Orochi"
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What are some relatively simple and strong characters?
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>>170597990
Warden.

You have three moves, and they're all strong.
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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>>170597931
Good luck in your own battles bro, thanks
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>>170598093
>metalkid267
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>>170597990
any viking is simple (simple minded lol)
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>finish a dominion match
>doesn't go to the game end/rewards screen
>just get stuck in limbo where i can kill soldiers endlessly
>forced to leave the match and not get anything from it

Jesus Christ.
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>>170598093
Round 2, Metalkid?
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>>170597990
warden is basic to learn but also has a fairly decent skill ceiling, so warden for one
id rather raider and kensei are simple but being effective with them is another matter entirely
warlord is strong and not all that hard, too, and PK is spinning your stick and mashing r1 for results which is always easy
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>>170598093
Shit, I should do that for ps4.
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>>170598093
>metalkid267
>xbox
>4chan secret club clan
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>>170598206
*i'd like to say raider and kensei
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>>170597990
Conqueror is super simple. All you need to know is how to block and use vulnerability windows.
Raider is really easy because he's got like 2 moves you have to learn.
Warden is on the easy side but requires faster reactions and predictions at high level.
The only hard thing about Kensei is cancelling top unblockable into side heavy. Everything else is getting used to the timing of the character.
Valkyrie is spam lights while you waggle the stick into backwards heavy.
And all the assassins will net you good results at low level with light spam and dodge attack spam, but high level players know how to punish that shit hard.
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>>170598093
Hey bud, up for a game? I'm on right now.
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>queue 1v1 earlier in the day
>fun matches varied characters picked
>queue past midnight eastern
>light spamming bug abusing pks
>bash spamming conqs
>headbutt spamming warlords
>vortex spamming wardens
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>Both teams breaking in Skirmish
>It's 2v1 right now, winning is almost a sure thing
>Orochi is just watching me fight the Warlord
>Doesn't help at all
>Warlord kills me
>Go to yell at the Orochi
>It's a fucking bot
WHY ARE THE BOTS ON MY TEAM ALWAYS FUCKING RETARDS, AND THE ENEMIES BOTS ARE LITERAL GODS?
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Note to self: Use conq's superior block to just make PK bounce of shield instead of trying to parry.
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>>170597871
To be fair, what the fuck do you expect when someone is getting stomped in modes with gears when they have none? Gear gives you a massive fucking advantage over the other person, it's not that unreasonable for someone to ragequit over it
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>>170598497
>Tfw one night the highest score on the enemy team was a conqueror bot
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>>170596984
>>170596554
>>170596356
i feel autistic standing there after every fight. why can't we jump off cliffs?
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>>170598583
>Ragequit -literally- every game
>Don't get gear or level up
wow wtf ubi ded game
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>>170597805
>gets shot by a random arrow and chimps out when everyone was putting their weapons down

heh
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r8 dont h8
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>>170598612
The one Femconq bot, her name is something like Gillie or some shit, is a fucking MONSTER.

That thing will ledge you, infinite combo with impeccable tracking, block everything you have, parry every heavy you throw out, and generally just be a cunt.

I love it.
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>>170598701
He was the first one to call truce. He deserves to be pissed when someone breaks it intentionally.
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>>170598768
well at least hitlers more interesting than a swastika
UN one is nice
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>>170598793
Something I noticed, if a Conq bot is spinning their flail for whatever reason they will never GB tech.
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>>170598128
>>170598201
>>170598261
Stop bullying me reeeee
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>>170598887
That's because conq literally cannot tech a gb from spin.

It's a crock of shit.
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>>170598768
mirin the adolf
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>>170598768
These are pretty good. Not going for the overdone Swastika is much appreciated.
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Does anybody take loses in this shit game?

reposted this in the other thread but I didn't know it was ded
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>>170598469
welcome to the big leagues

maybe dominion is more your speed hrmmm?
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>>170599026
I do. Generally cause I wanna rematch but people are bitches about losing to someone they just beat.
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>>170599068

Easy there, Linkara
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>>170599068
>maybe dominion is more your speed hmmmm?

Yet you post a webm of you using the biggest crutch in the game to win. Excellent job.
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Is there an etiquette for using Revenge in duels? I've been playing Law all night but I try to shy away from it unless the other guy gets it and tries popping it first.
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>>170598469
What's the PK bug?
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>>170598093
>Ever wanting to attach any real life info to 4chan
No thnaks. Besides 4channers tend to become absolute insufferable cunts when they aren't anonymous. When names get involved it always turns into a circle jerk. That and people having the power to kick you from parties and the group that place is gonna be full blown cancer circle jerking
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>>170599219
holy shit this nigga got the joke
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>>170599068
Are you actually bragging about needing revenge to win?
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>>170598661
I'm not saying to quit every single game, but they got paired with you every time in elimination with no chance of winning. Not everyone enjoys getting the shit stomped out of them
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Have the devs announced any plans on what they plan to do with Revenge stats?
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>>170599242
i unlock then walk away and use it then just wait for it to run out
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>>170599478
they already said they are nerfing Revenge gear, though we don't know when they'll actually do it. they also mentioned fixing debuff resistance so that it doesn't allow you to perform guard breaks from untechable GBs anymore.
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>>170599517
I usually pop it after the fight ends, but at that point it doesn't really matter.
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>>170599476
It's shit on or be shit on the gamemode, he mad a massive scene about leaving four times in a row, it's not like leaving one game.
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>>170599576
nah the reason i specifically use it and let it run out is because just having it changes the fight completely
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>>170599563
Oh I already knew they were nerfing it, I was just wondering if the Devs had gone into any specifics recently. Doesn't seem like they have. Thanks anon.
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>>170599635
Wait, does having a Revenge ready to go actually provide some kind of passive benefit, or are you talking about the mindgames of having it?
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>>170599647
They probably won't until the patch is close to being released.

I feel like this next patch is going to take forever. If all the things are in it like I think, it's going to be a pretty hefty patch. Raider and Lawbringer buffs, Warlord and Conq nerfs, possibly PK nerfs, Revenge gear nerfs
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>>170599727
yeah just the mindgames, makes you scared to land a hit
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The fucking tracking in this game makes me so salty. Whose shitty idea was it to put aim assist in a fighting game?
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>they dont play the law as a stealth class
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>>170599870

>CLANK CLANK
>softclank
>CLANK
>CLANKCLANKCLANK
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>>170599870
>it cuts off just as he's about to get destroyed
Kek
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>>170599068
>triggering revenge on the 5th round for the win
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So how do I make Raider viable in mid-high play? Is it literally only just feinting and attack cancelling into the poke?
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Is there a reason i cant find any games? I found a 1v1 after 5 minutes but cant find anything else in any gamemode, Is this game dead already?
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Is there anything more arousing than a fem orochi with the bunny ear ornament?
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>>170599068
A bleed pushed you over the edge on revenge? Good to know
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what ever happened to the ornaments?
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>>170600351
Matchmaking is shitting the bed already. It's also 7:30am on a weekday in the UK.
Everyone is sleeping or going to work right now.
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>>170600712
Are you talking about the campaign Ornaments?
A ton of them look like they're on disc DLC because they aren't available to players right now.
Same with the Bot-exclusive Emotes and Executions.
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>>170600712

Yeah weren't we supposed to be getting some new ornaments today?
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>>170600013
That's why it's a surprise, anon.
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>>170600889
It's like 3:30AM on the NA East Coast. Patch drops at 8AM.
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>>170599920
they cant stand up to the law's tektikal jinyus
>>170600013
>>170601036
nah that valk and roach were garbage https://my.mixtape.moe/imafft.webm
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>>170599068
play duel against faggot PK player
>be LEGENDARY RAIDER
>faggy PK uses grab+bleed attack
>oh shit its draining the rest of my health
>go into extreme offense mode
>knock down most of Pk's health
>Can't keep up
>use unblockable
>DIRECTHIT
>execute for good measure
>killed PK before her bleed effect killed me
>feels good man

Post your warriors that will dine with the gods in Valhalla
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>>170599920
I like robot porn as much as the next guy, but this is a blue board.
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>>170601310
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>>170601194
>running away from one person in elimination

Is it a legitimate strategy? Yes.

Doesn't make you any less of a bitch, though.
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Revenge is such a shitty mechanic.

Absolutely useless if you're being focused by 2or more people, and absolutely overpowered if you're 1v1ing someone. There is no in-between.
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>>170601209
oh dammit I forgot the audio rip
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Last /fhg/:
>141 unique posters

Another general that is so dead that it needs constant bumps to stay on the board:
>164 unique posters and only 593 posts in.

http://i.imgur.com/caSw9Lc.jpg

>Implying I'd bump this thread by posting an image when guru'ing to my post.

Now give me my (You)s, faggots.
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>>170601461
wudn't me
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@170601957
Why are you even posting this jackoffery about how dead the thread is?
Get a life or talk about the game.
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>>170601957
It's almost 3AM EST you fucking tard. The majority of americans, which make up the bulk of 4chan's entirety, are asleep.
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>>170602229
Not him but good excuse senpai, that'll show him
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>spend five minutes searching for game
>spend another minute or two waiting for that one guy to finish selecting character
>sit through two minute long loading screen
>round 1
>connection error back to main menu
Fuck Jewbisoft
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>>170601310
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>>170601310
Damn. You're one badass dude, aren't you?
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>>170602229
As a leaf poster, the only rejoice I can get is in seeing Ubisoft Montreal's garbage of a game fail. Especially after King Cuck Trudeau visited them at their studio to get selfies and talk good about them.
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Where are patches
They promised patches
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>>170602434
i feel like one
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>>170602812
What patch? What's being patched? Why isn't it in the op? Telll meeeeememmemememeee
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>>170601310
>Unblockable Area punishes Dodge Attacking faggots
NO BETTER FEELING. DEXFAGS BTFO
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>>170601978
Eh, I didn't mean to refer to you, I just meant in general, sorry.
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Best way to followup parry as PK?

Was surprised when I started playing her everyone seems to get knocked too far back
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>>170599870
>>170601209
>baelothe still here
Fuck off furfag
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>>170602812
>>170602869
Server-side patch tomorrow/later today. This does not count as a full balance patch or anything, since those would require downloading on our ends. This is mostly bugsquashing.
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>>170603090
As of the first balance patch, Peacekeeper should now be able to confirm a light off a parry.
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>>170603090
GB>Triple stab? If not I think one of her heavies is free.
All else fails you can close the distance with light chain attacks.
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>>170603279
Also memory leak patch shortly after that
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>>170603279
>shield classes getting BTFO'ed
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>>170603279
Finally no guaranteed heavy when attacking a warlord
Finally can play shugoki again
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>>170603587
It's not that vigorous a BTFO'ing. Warlord and Valk now have a .2s delay (12f if you're going by 60 FPS terms) from fullblock activation to guarding. In fact, this might even be construed as an exceptionally minor Conqueror buff: instead of having to time the block exactly to allow for the heavy counterattack, he now has a .1s leeway for blocking before the counterattack. At least, that's how I understand it.
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>>170596554
>>170596984
Your paranoia is the true autism here
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>>170603279
>No mentions of them fixing the goddamn connection issues
That's my biggest complaint right now. I hate spending several minutes searching for a game, two minutes loading into it, and then having it crash
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>>170603915
It would be SO much more malleable to people if we could just screw around in the character customization screens or hell even the emblem making bit just to pass the time while you wait. I keep my phone nearby just to not have to stare at an unchanging screen for upwards 10mins before a match starts.
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>tfw can't make the family seal
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>>170598818
And plunge the 3 factions back into countless years of warfare, yeah that's justified
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RIP Shug's phantom double hit.

>>170604092
You've got all that time to go through your movelist and review your abilities.
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>>170603826
It's not paranoia. I know people who do it very intentionally and will get mad if you do ANYTHING after a kill, even if it's running around doing rolls.

It's the ultimate "muh honor code" shit and I hate it when people tell you how to act in a game of all things.
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>>170604119
>tfw could make the family seal
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>tfw cant decide if I should get orochi or zerker to rep 3 first
I kind of want to do orochi since it just feels like a better class, but half healthing people with a single top heavy from zerk is so nice
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>>170604132
He didn't do it. Apollyon did.
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>>170597805
Sacking the samurai capital counts as doing nothing wrong?

>>170597865
>>170597974
Raider never actually fights Warden or Orochi. Orochi beats Warden, and he almost gets archers to shoot down Raider in his boat before Ayu stops him. Don't forget Apollyon's shittalking about how had the Orochi not been in prison, the Vikings' Great Raid would've failed there on the bridge to the capital.
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>>170604139
I main the LAW, I know most of those handy dandy moves won't be used. I know them, I just know they won't have much time to shine, especially the 5 hit combo that specifically requires a top heavy in the middle of the chain followed by a quick light. For what purpose?
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>>170604332
When? It was the Vikings showing up which disturbed the forming peace
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>>170604243
It's almost as if you can let people get mad at their keyboards and play the game how you want too, just as they can
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>valk gets a guaranteed 2 trips if you are exhausted effectively giving her 2+ free bars.
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>>170604793
ÉG DREP PIG!
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just had my first roach quit, /fhg/

feels good
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>>170603587

It's honestly not even that big of a nerf at all
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>>170604793
>not just magically iFraming through her hits

cmon son how new are you
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Who should I play if I want to get people the MOST mad?

PK right?
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>>170605076
yep
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>>170603783
>conqueror's Heavy Counterattack
???????
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>>170604385
They attacked everyone indiscriminately and didn't try to cover it up with morals or philosophy.
They also had no choice because Mrs.Shepard Apollyon destroyed all their food, and the Samurai had surplus.

Raider wiped the floor with General Tozen, and The Orochi himself admitted he was a formidable warrior, on the same level as the rogue Daimyo.
Those two are slightly below the Warden who himself gets his ass handed to him by the Orochi. Raider is around the same level as Orochi.
Apollyon is still better than everyone else because the Orochi needed help to kill her. If the castle wasn't falling apart it's doubtful he would've won.

>>170604667
Disturbing the peace by launching small scale raids isn't the same thing as launching wars of provocation. Blackstone is still to blame.
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Is general kill?
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>>170604119
You could, just dumb it down a bit. Less crosses and no weird bits on the backgroun separation.

>>170604262
Christ whats with the taigs?

Least your two's isn't super complicated.
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>>170605161
Nigger, it's the small hours of the morning. Calm your tits.
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>>170595528
Shove>side heavy>shove endlessly is pretty fun. People panic when they are getting worked and often can't stop it.
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Why does a lot of people main roach? It's pretty boring.
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>>170604119
>>170604262
>>170605163
FUCK OFF why doesnt my shitcunt family have one of these i know for a FACT im english/welsh going all the way back
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>>170605150
>Capturing a seaborne fort, figuring out where their capital is, and sacking the fuck out of it
>small scale raid
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>>170605150
A small raid is Apollyon's fortress?
Since the armies were distracted they could have raided else where
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>>170605268

You probably do, just need to do some more family history checking.
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>>170605076
Shugoki
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>>170605298
They literally called it The Great Raid. There's nothing small about it.
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Post'em.
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>>170605161

It's almost 1am PST.

Also I need to name myself General_Kill
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>>170605268
What's the last name mate?
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>>170605232
>>170605414

Why do faggots deny games are dying due to time zones, its like the ultimate form of denial.
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Day 1 one my new life as a lawbringer.

Having defeated the 4 raider team and vanquished the football within, I have ascended to a new class, but no longer have access to my devastating Raider weapons and armor.

Thankfully, I understand the usefulness of boosting points, and my being here doing work for the team frees our better geared troops to attack. The very act feels noble, more in lane with this new class.

Orochis remain stupid and plentiful, despite their ample 108 gear, and I am slowly growing hopeful that this was the right choice
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>>170605150
Also if the Samurai had surplus then the Vikings only reason to raid Apollyon was greed
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>>170605298
That was after Blackstone fucked them.
Before they were just casually hitting the borders of Ashfield.

>>170605318
Apollyon's fort didn't get hit until the Iron Legion + Samurai gangbang.
The Vikings were just holding some ruins at the very start.
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>>170605161
who is this girl
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>>170605482
This is the last (you) you're gonna get.
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>>170605583
that's an animation anon
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Why the FUCK can't I get the tier 3 Loran helm for Warden. I swear I have seen every other purple just not the helm I want REEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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>>170605528
The Vikings as a whole didn't know about Samurai wealth until they were all unified under Warborn command.
At first it was just a secret known only to the local Vikings and the Blackstone Legion.
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This is how the ending should have gone down
>Warden agrees to assault Blackstone fortress with Orochi
>March on the fortress together
>Raider decides to go for revenge and also marches on fortress
>Player gets to decide which faction to play for just to sweeten the level
>at some point Raider, Warden, & Orochi catch up to Apollyon
>Big speech: sheep, i made you warriors, etc
>Apollyon kill by desired character
>Raider, Warden, Orochi begin to circle each other like beginning scene
>mistrust, revenge desire, and just general blood lust causes armies to attack each other
>war begins
just think it wouldve made a better level
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>>170605574
I'm talking about the very end cut scene where Warden and Kensei are trying to calm their troops and actually succeed, until the Viking's horn blows and the fighting begins again
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>>170605695
do you have a single fact to back that up
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>>170605150
>Apollyon is still better than everyone else because the Orochi needed help to kill her.

She literally sicks like a half-dozen men on you throughout the fight. The Orochi is just a super-powered badass in the games' powerlevel, which was REALLY stupid after Warden got all his character development then just gets fucking murked by the Orochi effortlessly. REALLY should have been the Warden who took down Apollyon.
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>>170605813
>Raider decides to go for revenge and also marches on fortress
I'm not sure Raider ever found out Apollyon was responsible for destroying the Vikings' food reserves.
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>>170605747
>Didn't know the wealth of the city after they completely sacked it
Okay that actually answers my question, they're too stupid to understand peace
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>>170605813
that probably would've been more thematically exciting than "vikings are retarded monkeys that ruin fucking everything"
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>>170605913
She explicitly mentions Apollyon's raid on the Viking Capital in the intro cut scene
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>>170605117
>Superior Block Heavy Attacks - Heavy Attacks have Superior Block property during the Startup. Use it to counterattack.
Timing for that is really close to parrying, so you'll probably see it 5% of the time.
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>>170605972
but vikings are literally retarded monkeys that ruin fucking everything
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>>170605449
its fucking SMITH
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND THAT
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>>170606113
http://www.free-coat-of-arms.com/
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>>170606047
And they have one the best missions in the whole single-player campaign with a straight up beachhead assault on a samurai fort. Vikings are stupid as fuck, but damned if they aren't fun to play.
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>>170605913
>yfw the Raider was the single most important agent in Apollyon's plans
Is the Raider they were about to execute THE legendary raider? did he secretly do the bidding of Apollyon by attacking the weebs? Was the gold and silver filled weeb chests planted at the shipyard cause apollyon knew the raider would take them there to find it?
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>>170605848
Things were tense as is, and any number of things could've set off the troops.
Also not the Vikings' fault the other two factions hate them so much.

>>170605872
Really should've been a choice of one the three heroes at least, if not the whole cast.
Agreed that Orochi is the dumbest fuckin mary sue of the whole series that somehow beats out Apollyon for that title.

>>170605960
They didn't sack the city until the Warlord discovers the crates full of loot.
The sacking came AFTER the Vikings kicked Blackstone out of Valkenheim because they needed to regain their strength to take them on in all out war. The Samurai happened to be weak and rich.

It's like Germany invading Belgium in WWI; they needed to attack the weaker foe to gain access to the stronger one.
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>>170605872
This. wasnt it warden who had the change of heart and defected? The roach had some good moments but he essentially soloed apollyon. And that bitch may or may not have even been human
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>keep fighting level 2's as my rep 9
>85% of them feel the need to make some sort of comment about my reputation
>either they lose because of bad matchmaking
>or they win and call me a bad rep 9 that lost to their level 1/20

Why am I not matched with people around my rep level? My account reputation is 12, it feels like I should be matched with other people.
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>>170606192
its not the same but thanks for trying anon
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>>170606113
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>>170606113
Took a couple seconds on google
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>>170606302
>Is the Raider they were about to execute THE legendary raider?
You mean the one who killed Davis?! We never see that Raider again fighting for Blackstone...

DEEPEST LORE
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>>170606360
If there's no one at the same rep as you at matchmacking screen, it bumps up to a wider range in just a few seconds. Can't stop it. I aht it too
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>>170606423
>>170606413
you guys are proving my point for me
these are just some rando's, i want one with history!
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>>170606306
I'm not debating the Viking's raid on Koto, that's understandable, I'm debating why they had to show up at Apollyon's Fortress
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>>170601442


when in doubt just click the same button over n over until the bad man goes away

pk motto
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>dont play for 2 days
>come back
>7/ 8 duels lost

what the fuck did kensei get stealth nerfed or do I just suck?
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>>170606475

If you don't know your personal history you probably don't have one.
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>>170606475
gotta do some family digging m8. My family has roots in England & Germany. Wish i can find a better pic but. Motto mean: We are not born for ourselves alone
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>>170606483
That was the entire point of the Viking campaign.
Unite the tribes under a single rule to quell the petty warlords hording food, raid the Samurai to gain wealth and strength, then attack Blackstone in all out war to reap vengeance on Apollyon.
We just leave the Viking's perspective after they sack Koto.
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>>170606681
A sharp blade dulls fastest from wasted time
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Have you done your daily Berserker Mating Dance?
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>>170606681
Dude I get rusty after a couple hours break.
Not playing for a couple days it's understandable to be worse than you were when you left.
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>>170606789
Reap vengeance on a clan that just had it's head smashed in and had it's leader killed
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>>170605863
No, actually
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>>170606905
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>>170606475
The black white and red one is an english smith family crest. The others im not sure of
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>>170606904
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>>170606904
>default chestpiece on Raider
I like the straps but god damn it do I hate the standard. You can't make out anything on that tile shit.

Also wish the Epic skull helm wasn't golden. It doesn't match the ornament at all.
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>>170607138
There is a non-golden epic version of the skull helm.

That anon just chose to wear the bling one.
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>>170606904
i fucking love skulls and really, really want to get the blind skull for the Lawbringer helmet, but it's so gaudy i'd feel like a fag wearing it.
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This game is just awful at high level
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>>170606904
Fuck, that's the look I wanted to go for.
Is there any way to re-acquire low level gear? I hate having a passive advantage over people with no stats.
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What's the fucking point of giving us so much salvage when we need Steel to do anything? Salvage has absolutely no effect on the gear system whatsoever.
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>>170607138
>Also wish the Epic skull helm wasn't golden. It doesn't match the ornament at all.

I have no idea why it's yellow when the helmet is high-level. When I had a lower level helmet, it matched the ornament perfectly.
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>>170607402
Good to know. I'm frankly not a fan of the yellow/golden skull helm. I'd prefer the one that matches the skull ornament, but I haven't found any high-level ones that match.
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>>170606042
I wouldn't even compare it with parry timing. Any attempt to simulate a parry attempt with a heavy would just force my blocking animation to ignore the heavy attack click.

The time it works is a pure random chance when swinging first because my heavy is much slower, and then the opponent connecting first because of faster attacks.
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>>170607484
To encourage faction loyalty/diversity while also separating the in-game currencies.

Having multiple currencies is like f2p games 101.
Make one currency super abundant but give it no buying power to make players feel like they're accomplishing something, then make a super rare currency with much more buying power that is very slowly trickled towards the player, with the option to buy it en masse for real money.
In this case Salvage is the common currency, while Steel is the rare one.
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>>170607581
Apparently according to >>170607402 there's a non golden epic version of the helm, which is something I've noticed too with the chainmail helmets.
I've had purples of the iron version as well as the golden one, but it appears the golden is exclusive to Heroic level.
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>>170607581
See >>170607402

>>170607687
Here's proof.
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>>170607465

There's not, no. Which is a bit stupid.
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>>170607947
sw33t. Gives me something to look forward to.
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I've been playing the game since the open beta with a controller, and fighting valks has been forcing me to use the keyboard but I just can't feel it. I'm significantly worse even after rebinding everything to feel better
What the fuck do I do? I'm gimping myself with a controller and I can't fix the right stick's deadzone to be more sensitive for faster guarding
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>>170608187
>he doesn't know

Its probably for the best you bug abusing little shit.
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Is patch out?
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>>170607465
Can't you just equip default gear?

I'm a rep 8 lawman, with no gear equipped, giving me a lower gear score than even the <rep 1 players.

I've never equipped anything on him before though so I don't know if it's irreversible, but I'd imagine it's not.

You get rid of your advantage, but unfortunately, your aesthetic, too.
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>>170608185
You've been playing too much, take a break.
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>>170608185
Take it from me m80, switch to mouse and keyboard. I played beta and the first few weeks of the game on a controller (Xbox elite controller too), switched to mouse last about 10 days ago. It took a few days to get used to and I was significantly worse in that period but now it's so much better than the pad. You can change guard stance so much easier, blocking and parrying feels much more responsive too. I wouldn't go back.

Basically it's short term pain for long term gain.
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>>170608449
Yeah I know but It's the aesthetic part that I want.
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>>170608185

If you use Steam, you can use Steam Big Picture controller settings to change the deadzones on your controller.
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>low activity 1 vs 1 queue
ded game?
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>>170608290
pls explain
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>>170608290
how dare you mar my name

even if long arm was infinite, it could only ever be a huge annoyance
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>>170608539
it's all just assassin cancer anyways.

this game fucking blows once you get into semi competent play
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>>170608546
>>170608606

He's just memeing.
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>>170597871
no im not
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>>170608506
What guard sensitivity do you use?
Toggle guard or hold?
Gimme the dirty deets man
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>>170608678
Come on. I was just trying to rile them up a bit.
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>>170608817

Do you think the Lawfolk gets to have fun, and rile people up?
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>escaping the law
>thinking the law bleeds
>in the millenia of war
>nyueeaaahuhuh
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>>170608785
I kept sensitivity at 10, I tried it lower but then it sometimes misses small movements which let me down against PK light spammers. You do need to get used to holding the mouse still once you move guard stance though or you will keep changing block direction. It will feel awkward at first, I got frustrated and kept picking up the controller when I was getting destroyed but fight the urge and stick with with it. Soon you'll be blocking and partying spammers for fun.

For lockon I use my alt key. I tried it with having to hold it down at first as I quite like this about the pad, however it's a bit awkward on keyboard so I just use it as button push now. Again it takes some time to get used to but I found it better once I did.
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>Following "lore" of the "singleplayer tutorial mode"
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>>170595528
guys guys, guys, listen, guys, sssch, listen

*whispers* if you want to win duels, just keep backing up and let opponent strike first.

thank me later
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>>170608506
I did literally the opposite switch for exactly the same reasons.

It's just what you're comfortable with.
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>>170609140
>You do need to get used to holding the mouse still once you move guard stance though or you will keep changing block direction

As someone who plays shooters a lot this was the biggest issue for me when using mouse. I just can't keep my mouse still, I fixed it however by decreasing the guard sensitivity all the way down to 3-4 that way it ignores gentle mouse movements/sways you may be doing unconsciously but still stays sensitive enough that I can parry pretty much everything but those damn peacekeeprs (I can still block them tho)
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>>170609608
Yeah I can kind of agree to that, I do think that m&kb does have an inherent advantage over pads when it comes to guard changing though. Pads might be a bit more responsive when it comes to general movement though. Guard stance is priority for me so I prefer mouse.
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>>170609728
>tfw you COMPLETELY fucking read a peacekeeper and parry a light
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>>170609825
I may be retarded but peacekeepers always recover so fast after parry that all I can punish them with is a single top light
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>>170609728
Yeah I guess this is really preference, I don't like sensitivity that low as I feel it's missing some of my movements (could of course be that I'm reacting too slow too).
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>>170609979
make class do you play? You can get HUGE punishes off of parrying a light of any class, always at the very least a guarenteed guardbreak.

realize that, stupidly enough, parrying her zone attack counts as a fucking heavy.
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how 2 make a cheeky swazzy in the emblem creator?
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>assassins can use a glitch to keep themselves from falling down when out of stamina

FUCK YOU UBISOFT JUST FUCK YOU

YOU FIX SHUGOKI BUT LEAVE THIS SHIT IN? FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>Fight a Rep 9 warden 2 days ago
>Badly beat him with my warden
>decide to give him the Law
>instantly leaves moment round 1 starts
>send him a message saying the law will find him
>Find him again tonight
>about to give him the long arm of the law
>Leaves the moment round 1 starts again.
I will get you Ryzilla.
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>>170610415
he cant out run the LAW forever
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>>170610328
Put gun in mouth, evacuate brains. You're done.
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tfw you get this shitty meager trade and are very content with yourself

lawbringer vs raider matches are something else.
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Any drawfags here?

Requesting lawbro doing the sick impale execution on an orochi while peacekeeper watches and swoons
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>>170610540
Thats a trade?

Looks like you just punished his whiff
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>>170610485
spotted the shekel shagger
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>>170610750
i traded my 0 damage taken for his like 10 damage taken ! !
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i am really enjoying peacekeeper

sorry guys
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>>170610927
don't worry, it's ok to be gay, anon
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>>170610927
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>>170610927
Hey man, if you're having fun that's all that matters. Whether you have fun because you like the character, or that you just like winning is really unimportant. It's a game, live it up.

Me, I am enjoying when I get to bait Wardens into this.
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>>170610927
>Tfw peacekeeper main
>Learning Warlord as my backup
I thrive on the salt
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>>170610771
No, you're just uncreative and a faggot. Literally worse than the nurutu retards.
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>>170611207
No need to lie anon, you're just terrible, we can all tell.
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>>170601310
Almost Rep 8, can't be bothered playing anything else. Just wanna take him to 30.
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>>170611336
why not both? xXx_AdoLFSasUkESePirotH_xXx
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>>170611449
looks cool as fuck anon
how do you get the grey beard?
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How do people become famous streamers and get in tournaments and stuff? Like seriously how does it happen. Do they just start streaming and people like them or something?
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>>170611449
Stop using cancer Reddit World of Warcraft axe it's the most out of place weapon in the game.
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>>170611404
That's the exact kind of salt I'm talking about
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>>170611567
It's based on the helmet you have equipped
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>>170611581
Start early and get the word out, yeah. The thing about new games is getting your foot in that door before it slams shut.
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>>170610540
>Im the worst hero!
>No, I am!
>I-I'll hit you!
>I hit you first, t-take that!
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>>170611581

Timing, how big of a following you have and how clickbaity you can create a title. Along with the memery in your chat.
I wish I was joking about the last part. Twitch thrives on shitty fucking memes.

As for tournaments, you just sign up, yo.
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JINJOU
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>>170610927
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>>170611775
muda muda
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>>170611694
>>Im the worst hero!
>>No, I am!
This is actually the usual retarded circlejerk we have between these two players in this thread, to be honest. Everyone wants to think they're the shittiest character for the 'street cred' i guess.

I actually think that lawbringer is fine.
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>>170611581
Put "GIVEAWAY @ 500 FOLLOWERS!!!" in your stream title like a huge faggot and watch the followers roll in.

Or be a girl and have a webcam.
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>>170611841
both raider and lawbringer are bottom tier
lawbringer just has more options off a parry
actually, what kind of options does raider have off a light parry? i bet no one tested that shit
what i know is that zone unblockable doesnt always work off a gb for some reason
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>>170611908
I know he can get a heavy overhead off of some classes, but I don't know if it's all or just some.
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>>170611867
>Or be a girl and have a webcam.
or be a cute enough boy that can dress up
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I'm trying to learn conqueror___LOL___ and I have a huge dilemma. What do I follow up my parry with? all of conqs heavy attacks are too slow to get a free heavy and a lot of classes end up out of range for GB after they bounce off my shield.
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>>170611841
I main shugoki at the moment cause abusing that hyper armour is too fun but I tried out lawbringer recently. I really like his reactive style and the overhead pokes to prevoke people.

I dont get why people say he's bad, yeah the damage is a bit weak for a decent combo, but he can perform really well.
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>>170611623
Nah, you're just a shitter that needs a crutch, it's fun to chop off wall to wall PK heads from all the pissbaby faggots that jumped onto them hoping for free wins.
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>>170611975
>tfw no high-quality trap stream

Someday.
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>>170611975
>>170612118
I could do it
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>>170612093
>You're automatically a shitter because you use a character I don't like
This salt is fucking incredible.
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>>170612118
>too old and too hairy to be cute
it hurts

>>170612138
do it do it do it
are you good at the game
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>>170611615
>Randomly inserting le ebin bad site into the spiel

It just looks dumb.
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throwing spears when?
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>>170612118
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>>170612223
they already in nigga

but good god i want her to carry me to the bedroom
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>>170612183
I'm okay

I main Raider !
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>>170612168
Anon control your assburgers, getting called out on being bad requires no negative feelings, you're just another pitiable subhuman that needs maximum hand holding to do anything is all, it's sad more than anything.
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>>170612310
You're the one throwing an autism fit claiming only bad people use characters you don't like.

People like you are why I enjoy PK so much. Nothing is better than beating someone and getting hatemail afterwards
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can't throw people into fires
can't throw people into spikes
can't throw people into pits
can't use ladder cheese
can't drop on them with a drop attack
can't attack or save friend because sacred 1v1 test of skill
can't revive
can't use buffs if they are buffs on the map

How honorable am i ladz?
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>worldmap bugs out
>error connecting to ubishit services
oh boy here we go
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>>170612389
would you say that receiving hatemail is the peak of your existence
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>>170612449
is counter-cheese allowed?
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>>170612449
fuck honor in 4v, its trash for doing trash and retarded shit
in 1v\2v im honorable cause if my opponent does the same, i get the optimal interesting experience, a lot of rematches, and a +1 friend on my list to play later, and if hes a dickhead, i can just feel better about beating him with a handicap not resorting to cheap tricks, and if he beats me by throwing me off a cliff i feel nothing, cause he didn't actually do anything, he just skipped the fight, if he enjoyed it good on him, its just a waste of 10 seconds in the end
i mean i made a mistake, i assumed he wanted to fight and have an interesting game, so i didn't go out of my way to play safe and passive cause it just aint fun. if hes into gameplay like that, i guess good on him then, cause i don't get the fun in that
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>>170612449
such a legendary honourable man could ONLY hail from dark souls........bow....bow before this honour god....
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>>170612449
this faggot uses revenge and feats what a douche
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>>170612449
>become god at the game
>play a lvl0 mid-low tier character
>never use feats or revenge
>make people humble with your superior fundamentals
dream goals
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Why are all PKs with retarded names disgraceful alt-f4'ers?
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>>170612945
>Conqueror
Justified
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is it just me or do valkyrie's lights feel WAY too fuckin fast now
i cant parry them at all, they feel similar to pk's zone its absolutely fucked
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>>170613060
xD rightt on sis
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>>170613146

you're just not used to the matchup, Valk lights are no faster than other fast chars lights
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>>170612873
no pls i forgot
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>>170613283
Dishonorable faggot
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>>170613283
shame
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>>170612820
You'll never pull this off on someone who's not a retard and slides down the second you start climbing
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>>170613283
I bet you use powerups in elimination
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>>170613460
No, YOU won't, I did though. Because I baited and confused him before that to guarantee success.
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>>170613616
speaking of them i remember being really shocked how powerful they are the first time i picked up armor and speed
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>>170613678
Except he was a fucking retard who didn't slide down when you started climbing. That's now guaranteed success, that's one retard not knowing how to stop you
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>>170613695
speed should really last a lot shorter than it does.

i understand WHY, if you're the last person left versus like 3 people, youd grab the speed and then try tog rab all the powerups before you fight, but it's really really boring and gay for all 7 other people in the match.
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>>170613783
When they're at the top like that you can easily get onto the ladder and immediately start with the hit and get them. I've done it, If they're waiting any lower you can probably overhead them.
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>>170613795
i agree or not be so fast if that long
when someone wins near those they grab all the stuff and smash the enemy before they know what happen
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>>170612449

Nigga, gotta use your head. You're arguably more dishonorable if you put that many restrictions on yourself because that's puffing your chest and saying
>"I DON'T NEED THESE THINGS TO WIN, BUT YOU DO THUS I AM ON A MORAL HIGH GROUND"
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>>170613881
The majority of people I run into on ladders wait around the upper middle of the ladder, high enough that you can't hit them with your weapon, but low enough to instantly knock you off if you try getting on
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>>170613921
>not pulling out a gun in a fistfight is dishonorable
the mental gymnastics are on par with trap lovers
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>>170613783
And again, I told you why he did that, and I will again because you seem slow: I baited him before that for about 20 seconds straight. To get him to not slide immideately. I prepared this, on purpose. You could too. But again, maybe you're too dense for this.
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>>170614006

No, what I'm saying is that putting that many restrictions on yourself makes you look like you're overcompensating. Putting SOME restrictions on yourself, I don't mind.
If there's 1 guy left in Elimination, and 2 - 3 of my teammates are just jumping at him, I'm gonna stand back personally. Don't need more revenge stacking, as well as I'd like to see if he could pull it off. Stuff like that I don't mind.
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>>170614047

>PK

Yes.
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>>170614047
some rounds this happens to be not just vs pk
instead of playing thinking too much
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>>170614087
just dont be a dickhead. how is that a lot of restrictions?
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>>170614082
And only a retard who would stop sliding, even if you baited him.

And the fact that he was camping on a ladder for over half a minute proves he was a retarded shitter
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>>170614047
>top 2 character in the game vs bottom 2 character in the game
take a wild guess
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>>170613921
This is exactly why I think saying "Good fight!" after YOU win is a patronising and faggy move. "nice try, i was of course clearly better, but you tried your best, and thats ok too!"
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>>170614120
>>170614208
in the video there were only attempts to block and straight non stop attacking

how does this even relate to the tier nonsense
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>>170614203
>i'm too dense to manipulate people into unfavourable situations
>so noone can do it except on the differently abled
fuck off retard
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>>170614138

Having literally 8 - 10 restrictions on yourself is just silly. Like.
>can't drop on them with a drop attack

Why? You are lowering your own health at the expense of killing somebody. That's the trade-off, literally nothing 'dickish' about it. In fact, if you drop attack a Warlord that has his level 4 feat ready - odds are, you're going to get railed in a few moments because you did that.

>can't revive

That's more being a dick to your team. It's a mechanic that's meant to be used, in fact, Conqueror/Warlord/LB/Shugoki gets extra renown from using those.

>can't use feats

They are there to be used, which is the whole balancing point of 4v4. Feats are the equalizer to not having equivalent gear-score. You can be GR108 with full defense, you're still eating 70 - 80% of your health if you get hit by a bow if you're outside of revenge, as an example.

>can't use fire

I can understand not ledging/not spiking, even if I do not agree with them. Fire however doesn't instantly kill, and only brings them a little bit lower. It's punishing them for bad positioning, just as much as ledging/spiking without instantly killing them. If anything, you're teaching them to get better at the game by throwing them into the fire.

So on, so forth. I mean, you do you bbygrl, I'm not gonna tell you how to play the game. Just replying and having some conversation.
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>>170614353
All I'm saying is that you'd have to be a retard to fall for it. If I was deadset on camping on a ladder, I wouldn't give you a chance to get close enough to try hitting me, I would slide down to knock you off the second you climbed on.
And yes, even if you baited me I would keep doing it, because there would be nothing you could do to stop me
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>mfw styling on rep 5 wardens as non-repped fatjap
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>>170614284
>character with fastest attacks in the game vs character with one of the slowest switch speed in the game


and you should plain feel bad for playing pk.
to everyone whos not a pk youre a dickhead
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I normally hate everything weed related but this game is turning me into a Jap sympathiser. Samurai have all the best looking classes, kensie gets my dick hard as diamonds. What's happening to me, I'm scared!
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>>170614475
just lettin u know i feel great
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>>170614231
its always been like that, since brood war
proper way is
loser says gg first, if he doesnt, dont say anthing
if winner says gg first, hes gonna get boo'd by the fucking audience
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>>170602324
lol just wait for a year untill the game is fixed
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>>170614516
DUDE WEED
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>>170614516
Weeb*
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anyone else here main a slow character and get unfathomably angry when you see someone like pk or warden just spinning their guard as fast as they can? like they're rubbing it in my fucking face exactly how theyre going to win.
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>>170614620
Why do you people get so mad about a game
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>>170614450
drop attack is fine, it doesn't work after youre out of the baby pool anyway
revive is just a bad mechanic that you HAVE to use, and if you're playing a character that can't execute, good luck

ranged feats are just obnoxious, but id use them against running assasins. if they didn't two shot me with theirs already that is

fuck environmentals period. they shouldn't be in the game
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>>170614681
who u calling you people u fucking nazi
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>>170614521
good on ya, cunt
enjoy it while it lasts
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The way I see it (dis)honor is a matter of escalation. If the enemy starts using cheap tactics or running away I will absolutely repay them in kind, and by the same token if somebody is clearly way above my skill level I'm going to use any trick I can to take them out of the fight. It's simple animal logic
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I've played 5 duels today and 4 of them ragequitted.
A guy called Xs_Havok picks warlord, calls me ''vortex spammer'' and ragequits after i 3-2 him.
Quitters punish when?
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>>170614858
Ubisoft can punish people for leaving matches when they balance their game.
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>>170614858
when ranked probably
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>>170614826
>if somebody is clearly way above my skill level I'm going to use any trick I can to take them out of the fight
And that's why you're a bitch that will never get gud.
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>>170614702
>and if you're playing a character that can't execute, good luck
Every character can execute
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>>170614858
I KNOW THAT XS_HAVOK GUY

he was on my friend list for a while, because i wanted to 1v1 him while we were brawling together (as allies)

after asking "are you good?" i said ye and we fought, and he was a mean nobushi

skip about a month later, me and my lawbringer friend fucking around encounter him and his premade kensei, LB chucks kensei off and kensei gets salty as fuck

im fighting havok, who has now switched to valkyrie
i ask him why he switched and he said "because nobushi wasn't top-tier and i couldnt get anywhere with her"
so when we fought, he did the big valk combo into fire, and i grabbed him and threw him off
"i've lost all respect for you :/" he says

fuck off lmao, he picked valk because of tier whoring and now warlord?
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>>170614858
this guy Havok is from dark souls community
he's such a shitter it's incredible
He used warden before and spammed vortex like a bitch he is
Still lost in the last tournament in 1st round
lmao
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>>170614858
>>170614930
>>170614945
It's a free win for you and they dont get any exp, so its not that bad.
Asuming you can kill the braindead bots
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>>170614976
whats all this retarded gold shit, are you a fucking candybar or a birthday cake
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>>170614994
think about what you said for a second
now thing about the characters in the game and their confirmed moves
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>>170615025
>>170615038
He spammed headbutt and complained when i punished him with dodge+shoulder bash, and he didnt roll backwards a SINGLE TIME.
I didn't know he was famous or something, i should have screened his bitching
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>>170614826
>Not doing whatever it takes for the win in the beginning
Some people just put themselves in a position where it's whoever ledges first wins. If someone wants to fight me on a fucking bridge I'm ledging them before they do me
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>>170614620
As a rep 6 Nobushi I run into this alot doing 1v1 against orochi, like it's some fucking secret technique or something.
I usually just hold a guard depending on the opponent (left for warden, top for orochi) and react accordingly with a parry then combo-fuck their tender asspussy with my naginata.
All while looking kawaii as fuck.
Then I spam my ass spank emote and take a dank rip.
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>>170615135
he's not famous afaik, i just fought his nobu in beta and played vs him on release, purely coincidence

he is a MASSIVE tryhard though, call him a faggot for playing warlord from "the warden he lost all respect for :/" if you run into him again plz
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>>170615167
yea i have pretty much just started ledging on the bridge maps, its more effort not to ledge them
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>>170614930
Gear is by far the most unbalanced part of this game. You can fight some Rep 9 Peacekeeper that's absolute garbage, parry everything they do and get them down to one bar, then they just pop revenge and mash max attack AoE on you until their revenge runs out.
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>>170615050
This is so the other Samurai know not to fuck with me

The bigger the ornament the more threatening the person
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>>170615123
Every character can execute, just land a heavy.
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>>170615271
i aint scared of no fancy cornflake man, you need all that bling youre a bitch
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>>170615286
>just land a heavy
oh, like conquerors heavy? that doesn't do enough damage to execute?
or like shugokis heavy that doesnt confirm out of anything?
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>>170615435
REEEEEEEE
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>>170606462
You kill him in the first raider mission you dingus
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after 188 hours im leaving this game

to many problems and to much cheese
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>>170615503
>Throw someone against a wall
>Heavy confirmed
WOW SO HARD
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>>170615135
he did a tournament in DS3 where all PvP streamers were.
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>>170615614
its almost like every map has walls all the time in range of your fighting
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>>170615687
>Play a character that needs to wall bang for confirmed heavies
>Don't fight near a wall
That's on you buddy
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>>170595528
>Multiple hero video guides
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr
>makes a bane reference
>videos actually teach stuff

is this.....a decent youtuber??
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>>170615989
>fighting a shugoki near a wall ever
hows the water in the kiddie pool
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>>170616036


>is this.....a decent youtuber??
Maybe for you
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>tfw level 5 or some shit in elimination
>get matched against a rep 8 japanese spear lady among other highly ranked players but the spear lady was the one I spawned against
>decide to try my best against her anyway
>somehow manage to take off half her health before dying
>wow im fucking amazing

>she runs off and solos the rest of my team (at the same time) with revenge
>realise he/she was going easy on me

wew...

the matchmaking is terribly unbalanced, by the way
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>>170616036
Nigger if you are going to shill your own videos then just be honest about it. I know you post here.
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>>170616036
how did we first decide to put that guy's videos in the OP anyway?
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>>170616036
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>>170611060
you talk like a faggot, just sayin reddit
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>>170616091
I never said I did, but it's your job to make them fight where you want to as Shugoki, especially considering your fat ass can't chase them
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>>170616283
you cant make people fight where you want in this game
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>>170616174
Because it was useful and I didn't want to force the creator to drink bleach after watching it.
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>>170616351
Depends on the mode. In duel it's literally just a matter of waiting
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>Guy goes Orochi
>Win by throwing him into hazards all three times
>He gets mad and rematches me
>He picks Warlord and headbutt spams
>Throw him into the bonfire and lava three times and win
>He says this

All I did was run around waiting for openings and picking on him. I spammed NO SUPERSTES at him a few times and caught him in loops before running away. Holy shit this is fun. Fuck winning.
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>>170616137
what matchmaking?..
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Are all these salt conversations par the course for fighting games?
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>PK players justifying anything they do

wew lad I sure hope they all neck themselves
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>playing shugoki in elimination for the order

people immediately run away when they realise they can't beat me then they complain when I decide to just run around and res people
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>>170616468
Yeah, people take it very seriously.
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>wake up half an hour early to do the 2 duties before work
>finish one
>maintainance in 5 minutes
Fuck me, guess i get to wait 9 hours to get my mythic skin
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>>170615596
>188 hours
Well you go your money's worth at least
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>>170616468
especially more so since so many people got blindsided into a fighting game

nothing is more unaware and filled with vitriol than someone learning a fighting game for the first time
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>>170616396
>draw
:^)
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>>170616582
wrong pic but it fits well enough
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>they're addressing shield-blocking
>but they're not addressing the valkyrie/berserker bug
>despite the thread about it on plebbit got 100+ upboats

Oh I sure love having to literally restrict myself while fighting valkyries for another month.
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>>170616726
Valk main, never seen this.

What even is going on?
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>>170616726
this looks fine anon, you just need to get gud.

t.valk
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>>170616726
just saw same shit with shugoki fighting conq
Shugoki threw him into the wall and for some reason he did that animation right after that. What the hell
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>>170616726
>expecting ubisoft to do anything right
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>Maintenance in 5 minutes
>Orochi decides to run away for the whole match and ruin everything
>Servers go down

FUCKING OROCHI TRASH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170596646
i mixed and have freckles

>>170604119
do nips have family seals? I know fuck all about my own history.

>>170612449
Get ledged

>>170614231
I spam "Thanks!" after I get ledged 3 seconds into a fight.

>>170616137
That or she used you to fill her revenge meter
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>>170616582
>Tfw Shugokis on my teams are complete fucking retards
Friend and I lost a game earlier tonight because one was so fucking stupid
>Tie breaker round
>I'm dead but can be revived, only ones left on my team are my friend as Kensei and random Shugoki
>My body is near a ladder up on a bridge
>Friend is running to revive me
>Shugoki is running after her
>An enemy Warden tries stopping them
>Friend runs around him, hoping the Shugoki will stop and fight
>Shugoki didn't even try to fight the Warden, and my friend ends up getting ledged, and then the Shugoki gets ledged as well because they ran around trying to get to my body
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>>170616365
> I didn't want to force the creator to drink bleach after watching it.

you're the Tuber, aren't you?
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>>170616854
it's a known bug that happens to shugoki sometimes where his bear hug turns into a guard break for no reason
got me killed a couple times now. annoying as fuck
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>>170616726
how about contact ubi support, and not hope someone on leddit does it for you
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>>170616140
Hey man, like and subscribe tehee! youtube power!

(I'm not that guy anon)
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>>170614452
You repeat yourself now like the retard we established you are.
>see 5 sec of a 30 sec exchange
>see how it ends and what the endgoal was
>I could have predicted that! Haha!
k
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>>170616950
is it a bug or your input error
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>>170617028
Yes, I could predict that, because people have tried it to me before back when I fucked with ladders.
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>>170614540
One would think that. But people got upset when i called them out on it.
"but i'm being polite!"
"no you are being a cunty patronizing twat"
"but i congratulated you on losing! i'm being magnanimous!"

like they actually are too far up their own ass to realise this
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>fighting a peacekeeper or orochi
>oh hes attacking up, guess ill block up
>suddenly attacks raining from EVERY DIRECTION AT THE SAME TIME

Do I just spin the block as fast as I can or something.
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>>170616801

When a Berserker deflects the combo attacks, the second attack comes in too quick for the deflect animation so it automatically blocks the second attack and knocks you out of the guard broken deflect-state, and if you try to guard break-move them, perhaps by sheer muscle memory, you'll get knocked back and if they GB you when you're in that knocked-back, you can't tech out of it. Enjoyable fun for the entire one party of the fight.
If you want to GB them, you have to wait. But that becomes a normal GB, so, they can just tech out of it.

Same thing happens with PK, her second attack comes too quickly but that straight up just hits you and does damage while you can't block it - so it's literally detrimental to deflect PKs for Berserkers.

>>170616974

I have contacted ubi support, made a thread on the official forums, used plebbit and brought it up in the hotfix thread, whereas that post also got a heap of upvotes - but alas, its ignored.
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>>170616524

>keep playing PK and having a blast
>shitters keep complaining
>Ubisoft ignores all the complaints

what a time to be alive!
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>>170614976
your dad is cool
he barely even cried
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>>170617174
ahah yeah dude sometimes I like to play with number blocks too
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>>170617128
thats not news
just ignore them
either they are an asshole and dont deserve attention, or they are a decent human and its all fine
trying to make people better is a thankless task
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>>170615596
120 here, would be a lot more but putting up with the shit made me hate myself too much so i stopped
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>>170617141
so when was it? cause it took them a week to notice the memory leak with 20 page threads on forums and countless support tickets
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>>170617332

Exactly one week ago.
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>>170617240
Thats not my dad though
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get warlord out of the game

sick of this shit

i've got like half a dozen reasons i want to wait for a balance patch before playing this dreck again but i know i'll just find something else to play and never come back
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>>170617139

you just need to learn the matchups and their move sets anon

it will take longer to learn the PK matchup, but Orochi will become a joke soon enough, they only have 2 good moves

and no you shouldn't spin the block, against PK leave it to the right, that's where their zone cancel comes from, then you gotta learn how to parry their first light attack, it will most often come from the top or the left if you keep your guard right side like a good boy, if the PK is any decent he may try to feint you though, or whiff fish

in any case, the PK can chain 2 light attacks before they have to reset the chain or do a different move, the first attack is slower than the second (15 frames vs 12 frames)

15 frames is by the way the same speed as valk and zerker lights, orochi top light, warden top light, LB top light etc. just be confident and practice
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So how long is maintenance supposed to be?
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>>170617529
~45
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>>170617529
The onscreen message said 45 minutes
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>>170617529
45 minutes.
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>>170617529
45 mins to an hour
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Reminder to use red colors on your armor so you sprint faster
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>conq shieldbash still nonpunishable
but why
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i agree with all the good players in this thread, this game is too complicated

they should make every class have 1 light attack and 1 heavy attack that are the same speed, and remove the parry mechanic, and bleed, and guardbreak, and deflect, and zone attacks, and full guard, and shield bash, and shoulder charge, then and only then would it be balanced and fun
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Their origins lost to history

Still, they fight

for what is right
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>>170617613
FUCK thanks for reminding me i capped this a while ago
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>>170617695
That can't be true right?
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>>170617695

That's some next level strategy right there.
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guys i want to make for honor youtube videos

how do i get big?
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>>170617785
>>170617795

RED INDICATOR, RED ARMOR, AAAAAAH SO CONFUSING, HOW CAN ANYONE DEAL WITH SUCH NEXT LEVEL STRATEGIES!?!?!?!?!1111
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>>170617785
dunno man guy was a rep9 orochi like 2 weeks after release so he was probably super underage
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>>170617839
Depends on th kind of videos you gonna do
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>>170617839

Make sure you implement as many DANK MAYMAYS in your videos as humanely possible to appeal to kids. Make Shrek and Spongebob references.
Go full cancer or go home.
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>>170617623
just dodge nigga like move out of the way how is shieldbashing even real?
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Is the new patch live?
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>>170617918
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>>170617895
like for honor stuff
what stuff is big?
>>170617909
dank sounds good
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>>170617942
funny thing, i rarely see someone using fullblock stance
shieldbash, shoulder shit and headbut - a fucking lot
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>>170618080
Youre not gonna get "big" unless you appeal to the lowest common denominator
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>>170618114
Top level warlord is harder to play than top level pk tbf.
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>>170618114
I keep hearing about headbutt. What's so good about it? Can't the warlord only get 1 measly attack afterwards?
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>>170617864
>>170617871
>Being a fucking scrub who doesn't know the hardest strats

I use yellow paint because it subconsciously makes people associate me with bees, which in turn distracts them by making them think about how bees are dying at an alarming rate.
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>>170618167
fast, super tight window to dodge, very stupid tracking, draws your stamina, but costs almost 0 stamina for warlord
same with shieldbash and shoulderbash
it's just retarded as fuck
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>>170618149
so i either need to be good or put shit into my videos?
got any examples? who are the big names in for honor?
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>>170618243
The better questionis, why would you appeal to retarded kids? Do you want to steep that low?
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>>170618160

The other way around for me, I have close to no experience with PK but trying the usual shit they do mostly fails when I get paired with high level players. Which is all the time.
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>>170618167
until he catches you with a guardbreak instead because you effectively need to prediction dodge the headbutt

it all adds up to too much. warlord is just too much.
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>>170618313

Not him but retarded kids are the high majority of YouTube users. If you want to be famous and make money, especially with gaming content, you have to appeal to them.
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>>170618393
>try to outtrade warlord with berserk by feinting
>he just superarmor through my lights and hitting me on 1/3 on my hp

who designed this shit seriously
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>>170618409
>make money on youtube
Get a real job. Video monetization wont give you shit for a long time.
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>>170618504
>To do ANY damage as Lawbringer you need to land parries into grabs to get a single heavy off
>You have no openers or reliable combos at all

You tell me?
>>
DAUBENY
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Anyone got frame data on bashed and headbutts and all that jazz?
Can parry lights, cant dodge shit
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>>170618510
Agree with this.
It's why I don't monetize my videos even if I gained 10k subs thanks to For Honor. I just do it for fun and have a real job.
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>>170618510

It can work, there is also twitch which you can use at the same time. And course whoring out on patreon which seems to work way too well. You have to keep evolving though or you will be irrelevant before you know it. I don't think the constant attention would be for me personally. Maybe as a side income with irregular video schedules and not necessarily just gaming related. I don't see why not.
Most youtubers that are the biggest in the business started it as a side income which became so big that it was way more than enough to drop their normal one.
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>everyone has lightning fast zone attacks, even fucking heavy classes
>give a berserker zone attack that targets only 1 person and can be easily parried on the last hit
>>170618675
i think he should be deleted from the game
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>>170618504
i know it's a rhetorical question, but a company that hasn't made a fighting game and also had way too many hands in the kitchen designed it

you can see the process they went through based on how complete some characters are and how they fit their archetype (warden, warlord, valkyrie) and also how half-baked and limited others are (raider, lawbringer, conqueror)

there is no way these six were the product of the same development process from the same minds
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>>170618510
but it will grow your e-penis
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>>170606042
I can do it semi-often. But yeah, hard to pull off on demand.
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>>170618675
I was trying out Lawbringer in practice mode and thinking his attacks were very slow so I gave him a pass. I didn't know it was that bad, though.

Knights already have the top tier Warden and PK. I even think Conq is a secret top tier because I've seen some crazy good conquerers.

The game actually has more good characters than bad ones IMO.
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>>170618843
I understand what they wanted with Lawbringer. He actually works great in 4v4 matches due to his CC ability (though still not as good as a Shugoki). The idea with LB is that a good Lawbringer is meant to be this towering presence in a fight. Every time you try to attack him, he stops you in your tracks and punishes you. If you stall long enough for his team to arrive, then he stunlocks and fucks you into the ground with them.

The issue is that he fucking sucks in practice because his only method of action is parrying.
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Is it up?
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>>170618843
>i know it's a rhetorical question, but a company that hasn't made a fighting game and also had way too many hands in the kitchen designed it, you can see the process they went through based on how complete some characters are
the game is literally Early Access
They did the same thing with The Division and R6
I bet Wildlands right now is in the same state.
This fuckers just sell half-baked games for a full price and then develop them further with people's money
Fuck ubishit
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>>170619168
yeah it is ;)
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UBISOFTTTTTTTTTT
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>>170619290
what are you unhappy about?
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>>170617864

It's more so the fact that you fuck with people who have color blindness to red colors, which is something that they've been bitched at so much that they're going to be implementing a color blind mode at some point.
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>>170619264
And people keep buying it. What kind of moron buys a AAA game at release anyway?
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>>170619337
It got extended
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>>170619378
ITT
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>>170619391
can't you just be a person for a couple of hours?
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>>170619264
yup

what gets me though is it's so transparent. "bonjour, folks, let's brainstorm an assassin-type character"

you can tell they gave all the ideas to peacekeeper and the well was totally fuckin dry by the time it came to design berserker. but because they had so many people on the project, nobody really saw what was happening.

you could make a dozen unique and effective assassins just ripping off what blizzard did with rogues in wow for a decade

every archetype really should should have had one representative character. give conqueror a demon grab, in other words.
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>>170619541
no
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>>170619264
r6 is actually a decent game now though
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Is there at least some online for honor emblem maker I can waste my time on?
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>>170619573

Berserker and Orochi both need reworks, but zerker most of all
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>>170619745
Berserker is more viable than Orochi.
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>>170619541
fuck off
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>>170619604
tough.
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>>170619817
>Berserker is more viable than Orochi
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>>170619817
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>>170619745
Zerker is easy tier

The amount of times I just attack right, left, right, left your dead is so fucking much. It's like people can't understand the pattern
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>>170619745
Uwot. Orochi is the king of mediocre classes.
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>>170619914
>>170619918
In duels? Yeah, definitely. I see a lot more high level Berserkers than Orochis.
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>>170619745
berserker needs to be scrapped. peacekeeper does berserker only better and in a more involved way and always will. make a bearded, male peacekeeper who can transmog daggers to axes and does berserker even need to exist? what, is he the "spinning" character? he's fluff. an afterthought because they pigeonholed themselves into this 4 archetype/ 3 faction bullshit
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>>170619946
>>170619947

FOR FUCKING CHRIST SAKE, ON LOWER ABSOLUTE SHITTER LEVELS MAYBE, BUT WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU ABSOLUTE RETARDS ARE DEALING WITH?!
>>
>certain characters being OP is the only thing ever discussed
But to what extent are they actually OP?
Are a lot of cries to nerf simply a result of bad players seeing the 'nerf PK' threads and just adding to them?
I was fighting a PK yesterday (I am zerker main) and he/she ragequit after one round and called zerker OP.
I know this isn't true, and they were just a terrible player, but it makes me wonder...

Another example is wardens. I fight many wardens, and I have no more trouble with them than any other class. I've come up against good ones, and bad ones and spammy ones. Yet in every thread, there is at least a few 'nerf warden' posts (some of which are trolls).

I'm not saying certain classes don't have a slight advantage over others, but people in general, myself included, are terrible at adapting.
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>>170619946
>Playing LB
>Try to block left-right-left-right
>No matter how fast I predict it the delay on stance changes fucks me
>>
Why does valk have such long combos and so much free follow-up damage?
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>>170620025
You dumb fuck this game doesn't have a ranking system. It puts newbies against people with fucking 300 hours in the game playing their mains
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>>170620005
you
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>>170620086

then parry the first attack instead
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>>170620005

That only means that the Berserkers have done more Domination. Berserkers are infinitely less useful in a duel, let alone against Orochi.
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>>170620005
>I see a lot more high level Berserkers than Orochis
>>170619946
>bers is easy because people suck at the game
he's the worst assassin in the game
and he is incredible hard to play against decent players
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>>170620195
>Parry attack
>Get a single heavy side out of it if the grab chooses to land

What I am saying is fuck Lawbringer.
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>>170620139

ranked is coming, in any case Ubisoft can't balance the game around shitter opinions just because they go up against skilled people and don't know how to deal with them

at high skill levels, with two good people facing each other, Berserkers and Orochis are a joke
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>>170620297

t. Orochi main
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>>170620248

LB and Raider is getting buffs next, Ubi knows they are struggling, just hold on
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>>170620083
>Another example is wardens. I fight many wardens, and I have no more trouble with them than any other class. I've come up against good ones, and bad ones and spammy ones
because if you run out of stamina against warden you are a dead man, since he can CANCEL his fucking bash into GB if you dodge.
Some characters like valk could cancel bash ability in alpha, but they fixed it. Didn't fix it with warden
It's literally a bug
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>>170620370

>.t retard

i've never played Orochi outside of the story mode

i'd never main that piece of shit, over half of his moveset is useless against a good player, that's why he needs a rework, spamming top lights and zone all day he's basically a shitty Warden without a shoulder charge
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>>170620025
Petemoo puts roach in top-6. No one gives a shit what you absolute retard are dealing with.
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I feel sorry for genuine lawbringers who have mained him since the start. Rough times for you bros.

But all you bandwagoners who jumped on the most UP class in the game, and yet complain about him 24/7 can go fuck yourselves, literally.

You chose to be victims.
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>>170620498
> spamming top lights and zone all day he's basically a shitty Warden without a shoulder charge
don't forget
better and faster stamina regen
more health
better tracking with zone
better mixups
orochi like bers has literally no reason to exist
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>>170620573
I'm merely a victim of the fashion. The aesthetic armour made me use him without knowing anything about how horrible he was until it was too late
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>>170620525
what are you even talking about? he said bers is shit and orochi is ok
fucking mong get your shit together
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Fuck Mercy
Kill Runa
Marry Ayu
Platonic BFF Momiji
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>>170620525

oh sry anon, i didn't know Petemoo said that, i withdraw all my previous statements

our favorite friendly Warlord streamer who is an authority on class balance has spoken.

>>170620590

are you seriously saying that Orochi has better mixups than Warden?
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>>170620723
>kill runa
DELET
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>>170620765
are you seriously can't fucking read
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>>170620839

i just re-read it, wasn't sure if you were referring to roach or warden until now, my bad anon, i make mistakes sometimes
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>>170620807
She's a Viking who wants to go to Valhalla. It's the best for both of us.
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>>170620943
Runa is for cute and tender lovemaking on the bed while she gently tell you she doesn't speak japanese
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>>170619946

And if you're facing anybody even half-decent, your second attack will get parried and you'll get punished hard for it with your puny 120 health. Which is why most berserkers will just swing one light attack then go back to guard-swapping for another light.

Berserkers only trick whatsoever are feints and autistic guard swapping because the timing on their lights are really weird and pretty tight to actually parry, while blocking is easy enough. There's only so many times the Berserker Mating Dance will work before they realize you can't really open them up. Hell, even LBs can block it on reaction as long as they don't keep guard-swapping and only do it when they're about to get hit.

>b-but infinite!!

Nobody who isn't entirely unaware or straight up panicking will allow you to hit 4 times in a row, let alone with heavies thrown in there. It's a horrible passive and should be reworked.

As much as I love playing Berserker, and I'm rep 9 with it, I would be absolutely foolish to say that its a good class in any regard besides damage output. They don't lack tools, they lack the toolbox to begin with.

"Berserker mating dance", for reference.
>>170606905
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>Maintenance when you don't even have servers
rofl
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>>170621070
>Explicitly told to wait for reinforcements by Stigandr and not go to the Samurai monastery alone
>Immediately goes alone
>Immediately regrets it
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>I found my surname actually was from a noble family, so I have a family emblem
Feels good /fhg/
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>>170621279
>all the matchmaking and logging in and stats logging and so on is just conjured out of thin air

of course they have servers you utter shit stain
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This thing looks like it's having a blast.
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>>170621886
how much are the new ornaments?
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>>170622170
Unknown.
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>>170622170

5000 each.
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anyone know when the servers are gonna be back up?
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>>170622278

They are up right now. Hence why I could take this picture. >>170621886
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>>170622367
Yo, we emblin' now.
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>>170621201
>swing one light attack then go back to guard-swapping for another light.
>not opening the guard break combo with a heavy
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>>170622459
>copying my sunbro emblem

I'd elongate the nose a bit, but pretty well done regardless.
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>>170622610

What? Nobody even mentioned a guard break combo. Guard-swapping is when you move your guard to different sides to try to confuse someone as to where you're gonna hit from.
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All new 5000 neoshekel ornaments.
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>>170622862
>Knights get the worst ones as usual

Why does Ubisoft hate the concept of good Knight cosmetics? Is a plume or teutonic horns really too much to ask for?
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>>170622862
Valkyrie is only good one
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>>170622459
We emblems now?

What can I fix?
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>>170622862
The conqueror one is on another level of shit, who the fuck is gonna pay 5000 for it!
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>>170622979
Nobushi has the worst one.
>knights has dragons and shit
>for her it's just two fucking crabs
>two crabs for 5k silver
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>fight against orochi
>impossible to parry on reaction top
>impossible to parry on reaction zone
>literally 50/50
the design is so fucked in this game holy shit
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>>170623051
lol
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>>170623046
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I just bought the game, it's pretty fun. I need some tips for Nobushi, when should I use heavy attacks? Most of my damage is coming for poison lights and kicks. Also, what's hidden stance used for? The in game info isn't all that clear.

Thanks.
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>>170622995
They're all pretty fucking nice, well done son.
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>>170623051
time to retire grandpa
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>>170623139
Look at the OP for the hero guides, they are pretty good
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>>170623051
>impossible to parry on reaction top

zone is hard, but not impossible, the top light is far from impossible
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>>170622862
Screw everyone else. I'm digging the warden dragon.
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>>170623051
*zone attack indicator glitches u so u block top and get hit from right*

Heh... Nothin personnel...
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>>170623139
Hidden stance works nicely to dodge attacks and feint once you get the spacing right.
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>>170622862
Can someone try the raider's one with a skull helmet? That might look nice.
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>>170622862

>How do I defeat peacekeepers?
>Just bee yourself
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>>170622862
Dude, sushi. lmao
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>>170622993
I thought a lot of people liked the Kensei's golden butterfly.
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>>170623191
I'll check them out, I just wanted a quick view of how her playstyle was.
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anyone wana play with me, a bit new. wana learn nobushi
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>>170622862
Orochi looks like uruk hai.
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>>170623214
>guard expires
>you can clearly see it in animation
>he hits right before you can reapply it
most of this mechanics just doesn't make any sense
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PK's first light attack is 15 frames
Valk's light attacks are 15 frames
Zerkers side light is 15 frames
Orocohi, Warden and LB top lights are 15 frames
Warlords side light is 15 frames
Kenseis top light is 15 frames
Nobushi's side light is 15 frames


Warden zone is 12 frames
Orochi zone is 12 frames
PK zone is 9 frames


people always complain that PK is too quick, but even if they made her zone 12 frames i'm willing to bet that 99% of people who get hit by it now will still get hit then

and seeing how there are so many characters with 15 frame light attacks i seriously doubt Ubisoft is gonna nerf PK by decreasing her speed

actually i don't think Ubisoft are planning to nerf PK, Warden or Valk at all, but those get a lot of complaints in the "community"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm5L19vZiEg
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>>170623540

don't get flustered, you have a lot to learn still
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I feel like picking up a third character after getting conq and berserker to rep 1. Probably either vanguard or hybrid. Would there be something that complements those two choices?
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>>170623749
Valk?
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>literally can't block fast enough as LB to deal with valk
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>>170623601
What if all Zone Attacks were un-feintable and/or unsafe on block
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>>170623749
>conq is turtling + wall rape char
>berserker is stance dance + feint + dash light char
Warden, probably. He's very strong, and has both heavy damaging attacks and vortex.
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>>170623601
They can't really afford to nerf aggressive characters until they fix turtle meta.

We can only hope they realize this.
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Does dodging in this game give you i-frames?
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>>170623475
anyone?
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>>170623889
Sorta. When you dodge the top light/heavy they can't hit you no matter what.
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wtf is a pizza combo and what is the origin of the term
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>>170623749
Play Valkyrie if you feel like playing a handicapped no damage Warden.
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>>170623889
Yes. You can be stuck in a corner and avoid a side heavy by dashing in place, it just goes through you.
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>>170623601
Good post, however
>actually i don't think Ubisoft are planning to nerf PK, Warden or Valk at all
They don't need nerfing, but rather other classes need bringing up to their level.

All these cries for nerf will make the game worse than it is now. You need to think about the bigger picture anon.
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>>170623953
I'm assuming it's a raider combo that ends with an unblockable zone attack for the raider.
It sounds like he's saying "pizza" at the end. People are dumb.
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>>170623869
Warden can give you some bad habits when you switch to someone else though. Like parrying top attacks with RB instead of RT. Lost like 3 games because of that.
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>>170623475
please respond
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>>170623953
Some people hear Raider say "come eat your pizza" when he does his unblockable.
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>>170623953
GARY EAT YER PIZZA!!!
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>>170624082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ3UPmL7QBY
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>>170624118
I'm too good for you, and you'll just get frustrated when I kill you over and over.
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>>170624118
rip.
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>>170623934
>>170624064
Thanks, I don't really play classes that are dodge heavy, so this was mostly a curiosity question.
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>>170623712
>learn
i know enough about this game to know, that most classes are much worse than another by a lot
and than orochi can literally combo double light you without even gb is fucking retarded as shit
Same with double light of warden
As nobushi you have to hit TWO times before 3rd hit is confirmed
where is the logic in that
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>>170624283
>complaining about the orochi

>not the conq.
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>>170624245
All classes can get something out of dodging though.
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>>170623847

i'm not a massive fan of either option

if PK's couldn't zone cancel second attack of the zone it'd be useless

but if all zone attacks were unsafe on block then it'd be pretty much useless for any class that has a slower than 12frame zone as well

tbqh i don't think zone attacks are a big issue, they're pokes that does relatively minor damage and once people get used to them they'll become less of a problem


like Ubisoft has sort of stated, it's not the fast characters that are problematic now, it's the slow ones, that's why their focus is buffs rather than nerfs
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>>170623139
Heavies can be feinted to bait out parries. You also have a variant on your heavies with your sidestep slashes; they (and the Kensei's) are unique because they attack from the opposite direction the Nobushi is dashing. You can score a guaranteed heavy off a raw guardbreak.

You're doing fine if your damage is coming from bleeds, but Nobushi has a passive perk - Way of the Shark - that says she does bonus damage against bleeding targets; this encourages you to stay on the offensive, so be aware of that.

Hidden Stance is one of Nobushi's core mixup tools, not unlike a temporary stance in other fighting games. For one, it's a spotdodge on startup, so if you time it well, you can dodge attacks with it. You can cancel both the startup AND recovery of any of your standard attacks with Hidden Stance. Hidden Stance will link into a Kick, any attack, or a dodge, each of which can link back into Hidden Stance.

Most of Nobushi's maneuvers link into each other, and it allows you to keep flowing between different states and offer a bunch of options at any given time, which matches her overall graceful presentation. Keep the enemy off-balance, keep them at range, and maintain your options. Watch your stamina, though.
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>>170623601
>berserk 1 light 15 frames
>roach 2 lights 15 frames
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>>170622862
wow, they all look like shit
just like every other cosmetic in the game
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>>170624069

i completely agree anon, i've been saying that for ages now

i didn't mean to say that Warden, Valk or PK needs nerfs, but that the community is crying out for nerfs, which is the wrong perspective to have.
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>>170623790
>>170623869
>>170623991
Sounds like I should try both against AI for a while to decide. Thanks either way.
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>>170624330
may be that's because i fought the same orochi 10 times in a row who spammed top lights and zone
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>>More maintenance
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>>170624082
>>170624160
>>170624207
That doesn't make sense because I've heard it used for the Warden, as well as in other games like Dark Souls.
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>>170624550
you fought ten games and couldnt counter the same playstyle?

Man. thats sad.
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>>170624069
>>170624479
Fortunately, in Ubisoft's last devstream, they said that as balancing goes, they will place emphasis on buffing weak characters first instead of nerfing strong characters first. I'm always in favor of that balancing method, as it offers more attractive alternatives instead of make everyone miserable.
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>>170624574
>stuck at work
>by the time ill be back it will be over
HAHA EAT THAT YOU NERD
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>>170624417

roaches only have their top lights and zone, anything else is easily parried, a good player can even parry the top lights
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>>170624336
>if PK's couldn't zone cancel second attack of the zone it'd be useless

The Zone Attack is for killing minions.
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>>170624645
here >>170623540

>>170624739
i can parry top lights but not when he's feinting all the time
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What the fuck is that Warlord ornament. Looks like something out of a JRPG.
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>start game
>Ubisoft servers are going into maintenance mode
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170624743

what are you saying? should zone attacks be removed from duels, brawls and elim?
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>>170624690
They said they will avoid nerfing characters unless absolutely required.
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>>170624215
not really. i dont get mad dude im trying to learn.
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>>170623601
(*2) for PC.
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>>170624879
Given how problematic they are in multiple ways (indicator fuckery, speed/damage ratio), yes.

Why do only 4 characters deserve to have usable zone attacks anyway? It only widens the gap between the top tier and the poop tier. Most of the cast can't currently afford to use their zone attack in a duel because it's parry bait that also eats all your stamina.
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only roachies and pks complain about warlord
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>>170624828
Most high level gear does too
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>>170625029
Kensei kinda complains too because he can't force open guards like other characters can, which makes Warlord and Conqueror tough matchups for them.

Then again, Kensei is a sort of "grit your teeth and bear it" character.
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>>170625028
Honestly just fix them. Fix the indicator shit, tone down the damage a bit for 2v2 and 1v1. Taking away tools isn't good.
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>>170624363
Thanks m8, I'll keep practicing my hidden stance.
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>>170625176
There is literally no reason to have a 9f attack in the game that is 100% safe to use due to the ability to feint it. Assassins shouldn't be the "ez frags" class simply due to demanding far higher effort out of the opponent than the player.
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So afking was still working after maintenance and now they are doing maintenance again?
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670th for qt black valks
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i have a question about conquer
I often see no flashing indicator when he attacks
is this a bug or intended? Confuses the fuck out of me
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>>170625301

assassin's don't have full guard, unblockables, shield bashes or shoulder charges either

should we make all characters exactly the same then? no class specific advantages, just a heavy attack and a light attack?
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You know what bug I'd like them to fix? Dusk and Storm being locked colors, even though they're baseline colors for everyone. I want to be able to swap colors and not lose them later.
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Why do I never see the Infinite Bash/Heavy combo in salt videos? I can't imagine there is anything that generates higher quality, purer salt than trying to GB a Charged Conq only to have him stunlock you to death because he read the single input you were able to execute before he 100-0'd you against a wall, executed you and then started airhumping.
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>>170625428
>assassin's don't have [...] unblockables
There's one: the Orochi's riposte after a deflect.
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>>170625428
>muh class identity
Why not just give them full on SFV style 3 frame jabs if there is no sensible upper limit to speed?

Oh wait, there is such a thing as a sensible upper limit, and PK zone is past it.
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>>170624064
Valk is at least as good if not better than warden after the patch.
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>>170625428
>slippery slope argument

This is why it's impossible to have intelligent discourse on 4chan.
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>>170625592

fine, then make it the same speed as warden and orochi, it won't make a difference
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>>170624574
Hahaha nigga just close your pc like nigga just read a book
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>>170625484
Because it's not infinite, you can dodge the bash. Even if you're by a wall. The bash wallsplats, but the heavy in between doesn't.
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>the main tool that allowed warlord to beat pk just got nerfed
>already strong pk got """buffed""" in the previous patch
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>170625727
I would rather die
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>>170623953
Female warden's shoulder bash sounds like she's saying "Pizza combo!"
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i think the biggest issue with PK zone is not how good it is in a duel, but how good it is in 4v4 modes, zone attacks should have an internal cooldown of 1.5 seconds or something
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what attacks you can NOT deflect as a berserker?
apart from obvious bashes and kicks
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Woo. Finally they fixed the memory leak and it only took them 10 days. So what did I missed fellow anons. Any new cool shit you guys discovered?
Also wew, almost everyone is able to CGB now, but Law will do his best to not lose. but lose anyways
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>>170625780

you mean the main tool that allowed Warlord to beat anyone? i'm so sorry you actually have to work for your wins now
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>>170625780
I wouldn't call Warlord dead just because fullblock is now on a .2s delay. It's a prediction tool now instead of a reaction too. You have to admit that being able to fullblock on reaction (into headbutt > stab) is bullshit, no matter who you are.
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>>170625898
>t. pk main
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>>170625898
>you actually have to work for your wins now
is this true? Can I play my warlord again without it making me bad?
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>>170625818
It's already limited by your stamina. You can only reasonably do two zone attacks before you're gassed. It's when Peacekeeper pops revenge and has infinite stamina that it becomes really bullshit.
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>>170625758
>you can dodge the bash
They never do
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>>170626058
It's still broken, just not vs pk.
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>afk fix today i finally wont get free steel
>they didnt fix it at all
Thanks ubisoft.
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>>170625780

I never even used fullblock as a warlord, it's costs too much stamina to do and parrying is better
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>>170626058
Slightly. This server-side patch does not count as a full balance patch; this was strictly for bugfixing and small tweaks (you'll note that all the fullblock nerfs are about squashing "replication bugs"). The real balance patch, the one we have to download ourselves, is still to come.
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>pk's zone is the fastest attack in the game that can be canceled and it's impossible to parry it
>it's even good in PVE or in revenge mode
>berserker's zone can be easily parried and can be canceled
>it's actually a single-targeted ability even tho it's called "zone attack"
explain
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>>170626301
Why should anyone care what you do, shitter?
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>>170626464
Well you care what other people do apparently
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>>170625376
baa baa blacksheep
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>>170626390
It's possibly to parry it, but only on prediction.
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>>170626548
yeah i block it on prediction and probably can even parry it
but that proves nothing
it's still the shittiest zone vs the best
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>>170626301
Remember back during the open beta when Warlord got nerfed the first time?
>Fullblock is shit now
>It costs too much stamina
>He can't guardbreak-cancel his headbutt anymore
>Headsplitter Leap got nerfed, to boot
>Warlord is shit now
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>>170626697
oh my god i forgot all about that
everyone was crying "whats the fucking pointin putting this many hours into warlord if theyre just going to make him worthless"
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Is maintenance finished yet
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>>170626697

No I don't remember.
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>>170626390
Zone attacks, on paper, are designed to let you mow through grunts more easily. Berzerker's zone just carries him forward and carves a gap through the line.
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>>170626697
>tfw I play Nobushi and she's perfectly balanced and I never have to worry about nerfs or buffs
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I want to pat Valkyrie's head.
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>>170626902
It has been for like half an hour
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>>170627015
I would kinda like for Nobushi to appear a little more graceful. Give her some more Wu Shu stuff.
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>>170627108
She's mine, away
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>>170627249
Sidewinder form is pretty graceful.
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Impossible to play a single duel match as a roach without your opponent cuck getting triggered and/or leaving.
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>>170626974
pve literally doesn't matter
and you know it
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>>170627108
I want Valkyrie to forcefully shove me onto the ground and plant her wet viking pussy on my face! I want to feel her quivering thighs and listen to her cute grunting as I jam my eager tongue into her honey filled cunny!
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>>170627448
But that's what it's there for.
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>>170627506
virgin
>>
why do i come to this place
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>>170609825
It's not that impressive.
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>>170627636
To see me, silly!
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>>170627412
You wish that were the truth.
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>>170627636
To suffer
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>>170627636
Because the only other alternatives are Reddit and the official forums.
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>>170627513
they cant be this stupid
they had a shit ton of testing done by players before release
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>>170627754
>Ubisoft can't keep being this retarded, Anon says for the 7th time this month
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>>170627853
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>>170627853
>only the 7th time
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>be mid-tier Warden
>can't feint, can't charge cancel so no Vortex
>love it when I pull off Crushing Counterstrike
>queue 1v1
>enemy warden in black-painted armor
>huh, nice look
>we spawn on a map with lots of spikes and hazards
>she immediately starts running away, hanging around the hazards
>my thoughts at this precise moment: oh fucking hell, please don't be a shitter, you're a Warden, you're supposed to be better than this...
>decide to give her the benefit of the doubt, go in close
>she tries to gb from neutral 5 or 6 times, literally exhausts herself gb-ing me
>tech every one because gb from neutral is the most obvious shit ever, bash, gb, toss her into some spikes because fuck it
>message: 'dont'
>she messages: 'oh your in for it now'
>my fucking face when
>new section of the map, less hazards, pick a nice spot for dueling
>she charges in and gets completely wrecked by basic parry gb heavy with the occasional sweet, sweet Crushing Counterstrike
>repeat this one more time for a 3-0
>she messages: 'okay rematch I was only playing'
>I leave and requeue, never see her again
Drown in your shame, you fucking bitch.
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>>170627679
Yeah true, you're a little cutie
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>>170628168

>can't feint, can't charge cancel
>mid-tier warden

ye nah fuck off
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>>170628168
Bruh I'm shit at the game and even I can feint, I don't think you're mid-tier
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>play duel
>get nothing but Warlords and Conquerors
>play dominion
>get nothing but 108 gear score Warlords and Conquerors
fun game
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>>170625807
>>170623953
This is actually pretty funny
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>>170628402
>>170628303
I'll cotton to that, I'm not even rep 3.

Fuck-bitch tier is what that black warden was, though.
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>>170628527
except it doesnt sound like that at all
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>>170628168
shh
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>>170628575
T E S E C A B O
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>>170623953
>>170625807

For reference, she's actually saying 'Te secabo', which is Latin for 'I'll cut ya'.
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>the same people who complain about the defensive, reaction based meta also complain about not being able to switch guards quickly enough

Really makes you think...
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>Elimination
>My opponent is an Orochi
>He starts off with storm rush like a retard, I parry it of course and hit him with a top heavy
>He looks visibly flustered and, like many Roaches before him, he turns around and runs away
>Right into my teammates who slaughter him
>He goes "WOWOWOW"
Why are Orochis like this? Why is running away their first reaction to getting hit?
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>>170623601
and bear in mind that zones don't require a stance change, so you may as well add 8 frames to all the other attacks
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>>170622724

>copying my sunbro emblem
>my

You do realize it's common as fuck, right?
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Vikings are winning every round, right?
faction war is pointless the way it is, ofc the largest faction will win every time, it's not like there's any depth or co-ordination, just dump your assets in any territory, never see the % change, just the same 12 territories changing hands every update with out any impact or long-therm result.
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>>170628695
Video gamers? Hypocritic? In 2017? Surely not... what a dramatic discovery no one has ever made.
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>>170628695
The meta of this game is garbage. The reason Warlord, Conqueror, and PK are top tier is because they're so braindead easy to use at an entry level. Sure using them at "high level" play is difficult, but they're far too easy to pick up and steamroll with. PK especially since you have to go for hard parries against her light attack bullshit to stand a chance.
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>>170628532
What's difficult about feinting though?
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>>170628812
As long as the weebs lose its all good.
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>>170628808
make that 4 actually, video is at 30 fps
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>>170628532
bitch I had feinting perfected at level 10, are you saying you can't feint at rep 2? literally just press B
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>losing left and right
>missing parries and dodges
>ask my opponent where is he from
>"Spain"
>i'm from Russia
rely makes you think
can you even play competitive when person lives thousands of kilometers away from you
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Thank god this is no longer 300 fucking soldiers.
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Okay Samurai bros, we need to admit that we're going to lose every round, every time.

We need to abandon ship in round 3 and all join the Kniggers. With that we can defeat the Kang menace.
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>>170629106
Stop losing the war.
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>if you do the extra hit on PK's zone attack it'll hit warlord if he R2's out of fullblock stance
>if he waits for it to hit his shield you have time to roll away
How has noone figured this out yet?
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>>170628897
Not even joking, this game is already dead. Players have bled off because casuals get bopped by the shitters and the people who would actually devote time into it already realize how shallow it is. The only people still clinging to the corpse of what this game promised are just too delusional to admit it, myself included.
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>>170628897
I still say that the best way to beat PK is to learn her. I kill so many people with the forward dash it's not funny. I wear so many people down with my side dodge heavy, bleed. Why? Because they dodge into the same direction I do for some reason and can't recover from the Dodge to guard. They should stay square and parry punish, delfect, or just guard.

Most of my matches I don't bother with light mixup because I can end them with the super obvious shit.
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>>170629093

It's also not a 1500 xp order, just 300. I guess the normal one is still 300.
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>>170628812
Ubisoft has full intention of iterating on the faction war, possibly even changing how it's scored. They probably won't make any significant scoring changes this season because the season is already underway, but I wouldn't be surprised if season 2 functions wildly differently from season 1.

Growing pains, bruv.
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>>170629145
>Kensei specialize in victory
>Part of the faction that specializes in defeat
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>>170629167
>ded game meme
PC I'm guessing.
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>>170629106
>giving a single flying fuck about faction war

oh wow i might get an extra box that costs 500 steel
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>>170629167
And also holding onto the hope that Ubisoft addresses the matter in a competent and holistic manner. They're already being transparent and openly acknowledge the defensive meta and how they are working to make changes to it. Just this last devstream, they said they already started the process of rebalancing gear stats internally, so that gear level won't be as big a matchmaking issue and such that a GS1 character can reasonably beat a GS108 character.
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>>170628913
>>170629041
I switched to warden from LB, where feinting is useless since he's so slow. Simply haven't tried learning it yet. Still working on the parry game.
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>>170628924
I guess, but it still feels pretty pointless. I don't feel like a warrior fighting alongside is faction to defeat an ennemy, i feel like i'm playing a game of Risk with 50'000 other dudes that never talk, and nothing has any visible effect
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>>170623601
what about warlord's zone? it's fast as fuck as well
>have to feint against warlord and try to side light him as berserker
>he has the same speed on lights and faster with better tracking zone attack and fucking headbutt
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>>170595528
>think about buying the game
>watch The Cooptional podcast (Totalbiscuit's gaming talk show)
>they talk about for honor dying and only having 10k concurents on PC
>talk about the community dying and being likely to shring at even faster pace considering upcoming releases
>say it might be worth revisiting in an year but is in a really shitty state right now

Should I trust them? is the game kill?

inb4
>Totalbiscuit
Yeah, I know, but I don;t have time to read about videogames all day so he is a relatively principled and intellectually honest source of information.
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Anyone else get a massive fps drop after the update?
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>>170629185
That just made it worst for me. I learned PK and actually came to like her playstyle, then I just got disappointed everyone that played her way differently, just mashing light attacks and never going for her other abilities. Raged the hardest I have in years last night fighting against a rep 9 PK in Elims that I was beating bad then would just pop revenge and faceroll.
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>>170629508
10k a decent amount of players
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>>170629508
PC is dying, console is thriving. That really is what's happening.
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>>170629486
From the Eurogamer interview, one of the game directors says the Faction War serves its primary purpose as the matchmaking HUD. They acknowledge the scoring issues, that everything is so decentralized and lacking in overall community. They already have plans to iterate on the Faction War, especially now that they've got lots more data coming in.

Patience.
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>>170629093
>>170629189
Probably because it's a Vs. AI order.
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>>170629680
>steam
a lot of people bought the game on uplay since you can have a nice 20% discount on it
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Is there anything i should switch around with my gear?
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>>170629487

warlord's zone is 18 frames
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How to get gud at parrying? Cant do it for the life of me unless its something like raider's and kensei's unblockable.
At least i can GBC which is gratifying enough because i play law
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>>170629831

Its better to have Defense > Attack > Stamina reduction on gear, than to remove defense.
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>>170629487
>Getting hit by headbutt as a chracter built for jumping to the side and attacking
lool
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>>170629831
Nice glass cannon build, Tex. Why stack chip damage resistance if your core defense is already tanked?
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>>170629831
>80+ gear
Doesn't matter, you'll be broken somehow.
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>>170629831
>neglecting Debuff Resistance in its current overpowered state
>boosting Revenge Mode Duration instead of allowing yourself to spam the activation autoparry more often by minimizing duration

>Minimizing Sprint Speed when maximized Execution Health Regen (which you don't have) gives you a whopping FIVE extra health, and literally no one will block your random heavies for chip damage

>Maximizing Block Damage Resistance instead of learning how to parry
>Not maxing Revive Speed for 4v4s

>Minimizing Defense instead of learning to manage your stamina (only excusable if you regularly vortex enemies from 100-0)

>Not maxing Revenge Gain by Defense, one of the two best gearstats in the entire game

>Not maxing Revenge Mode Attack, the other best gearstat in the entire game

Awful, scrap all of it.
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Is Conqueror shield damage feat broken?
Lvl 2 feat says tht shield attacks inflict damage but It doesn't. tested on both bots and pvp
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>>170630956
But it does? I've gotten kills with it.
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>>170631175
just tried it. teh health didn't decrease one single hp when attacking with shield bashes
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Thoughts? I think it's the closest I could get with my family coat of arms. Unfortunately there's no wolf symbol.
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>>170631514
I've been killed by it.
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>>170631675
well, eitther today's patch fucked it up or I don't know what's happening
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>>170629106
Don't attack vikings
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>>170633383
Serious question. If Varg played For Honor, what hero would he play?
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>>170633462
Berserker
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>>170628168
That map's only decent spot to fight is by the spikes. the alternative is the pits or getting cramped and walled repeatedly. I run there and virtually everyone who doesn't want to abuse enviro kills goes there. She was probably just trying to vortex you in the shittiest way possible and you assumed the worst because you're a fag
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Buff PK.
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>>170629472
Lb can feint to get in a guardbreak, which is the only thing of value he has
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>>170631673
there is a wolf try this

forget how it's unlocked. observables/breakables or by buying the emblem packs with uplay shekels in the game overlay
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