/fhg/ - For Honor General

>>170541281
okay, now you have to land a light attack, which is even more a shitshow with how easy blocking/parrying is, good job retard

>>170541504
>warden is balanced because i cant land light attacks

Fucking kill yourself

Keep the autismo shitslinging in the old thread.

Who's getting that Whirlwind mood effect, and for who? I think it looks keen on Nobushi.

>>170541406
Hey can someone who's good at the game add me on uplay? I need to figure out how to counter a certain playstyle. ID: sonofmosley

>>170541549
unless they are changing it noboobshi is the only who can get it, no?

Its the only decent effect desu

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Reposting for discussion

Why Warden is the best designed hero in the game and every hero should be balanced like him:

Cancelable shoulder.

Using shoulder instantly forces your opponent to act, yet with counterplays you can also make, and also workarounds your opponent can use as well.

If you charge shoulder in neutral, there are 3 things your opponent can do:
>side or back dodge
>light attack to stuff the shoulder
>wait, and not open themselves up at all
Each of these has a counterplay, being cancel into GB, cancel into parry, or just raw shoulder. Your opponent can also read you and use feints or other attacks to properly counter, and so on.

No other character really has this kind of depth, and why Warden should be used as the pinnacle of balance for this game, or just fix the fucking defensive meta somehow

>>170541645
What sort of playstyle?

>>170541687
>reposting for bait

>>170541687

Why did you make this webm? Nothing really happens in it that's interesting.

>>170541682
There's a server-side patch going out today. The Whirlwind effect will be available for everyone, not just the Nobushi.

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I NO SUPERSTES'd my bully today, once he was lying on the ground gasping for breath I did

_____AD_____

>>170541854

BITÁ

>>170541549
What whirlwind effect?

Also, aren't some emotes missing?
I thought each class had 12.

>>170541687
I agree in concept, but the combined factors of the timing windows favoring the warden and the probability of guessing the correct counter favoring the warden as well mean that it's a little stronger than it should be right now.

>>170541701
Orochis who play passively and only zone/toplight. Doing stuff light feinting into top light, zone into toplight. etc

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>>170541854
MORTEM

I just had a really fun kensei vs warden fight.

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Nth for report all lawposters for stroking eachother's dick on a blue board.

>>170541939
Yeah but if every character had something similar, the game would be a lot faster and offense-oriented

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>>170541957
INIMICUS

>valk lights come out so fast you cant block or dodge on reaction
they thought this was ok?

>>170541687
What if a raw shoulder bash were punishable on side dodge? It would add an element of risk/reward where the Warden is more likely to GB cancel for safety, but might opt for the raw bash in case the enemy expects the GB.

>>170541687
Can you actually punish a shoulder bash by doing a backstep heavy or do you get bumped first?

>>170541921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrrUbiYZJ8Q

>>170542082
It is though, I get hit by lights and even GBs after shoulders sometimes, but making that universal might be a good idea

It's just really shitty that the best move in 1v1s is not to do anything, unless you're Conq/Warlord/PK

>>170542047
>give every character the same, but different, way to force opponents to do something while also balancing the uniquely different things

>>170542178
It's alright.

>>170542178

be wary of anomalies, stalker

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is this about right, excluding the fact that you should ad mortem if you get a light parry or knock someone down?

Duel mode isn't fun anymore.

Literally every match is some Assassin cuck abusing the Zone Attack indicator fuckery as much as possible.

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Since I just got my first character to rep 3, I wanna try something else.

6 decides what I level up next.

>>170542170
you can light it on startup

>>170542330
lawbringer

>>170542330
As a Nobushi main, you'd probably like Kensei

>>170542330
6 for warden

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>>170541921
Some emotes aren't available for player purchase yet, even though the AI can use them.

Who /OROCHI/ here?

>>170542406
Aight, shit, thanks.

>>170542308
if you're really starving you can parry then light

>>170542469
>shir
I'm not being sarcastic or trying to fuck with you

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>Timeout because neither of us wanted to attack
>next duel same guy, because noone else playin
>same thing
seriously holy shit

>>170542416
How to hate an orochi more... Great job Ubi.

>>170542270
>>170542283
Point is, as of today's server-side patch, all characters will have access to it.

>>170542416
God, I already imagine the amount of butthurt from this.

>>170542520
shit*
>90 second post timer to correct a typo
THANK YOU HIROSHIMOOT

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>>170542330
L E G E N D A R Y

>>170542520
Yeah, I got that. It wasn't a disapproving kind of "shit".

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>>170542170
If it's a regular bash, yes, but the fully charged one goes really far + causes a stumble effect, so you might have to space it pretty well

On the plus side, the stumble doesn't give the warden any kind of followup, so it's pretty safe

>>170542308
the fact that is starts with "wait for an attack" is pretty lame, but it's more or less accurate

what you may want to do off of an exhausted parry, if you're close to a wall, is GB > wall throw, that way you'll get a light + grounded heavy + unblockable stun mixup after, webm related

>>170542553
I just wish I could get the lightning strike one without getting the whole skin package.

>>170542593
I don't know why Orochi triggers me so much. I don't care if team mates come and steal my kills with heavy attacks from behind, but when an Orochi does it I get so fucking angry.

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Here we have the Berserker Mating Dance, the Berserker prancing about in the field of battle as if it was listening to the sauciest of salsa songs.

Berserker vs Berserker fights look absolutely retarded.
I still won in the end, before anybody mentions the 0-2.

>>170541406
Do you always get 20 steel after matches or does this game become less grindy when I get to higher prestiges?

Why do I have to play 300 matches to get an emote?

>>170542645
I think I'll just wait for the buff before I get raider to rep 3. I just got him that high because he was my main in the betas.

>>170542668
Lawbringers are giving so much troubles. I tend to read animations more than the UI and I can't fucking tell what they're doing half the time.

>>170542745
>needing that retarded stance switch dance ever
When I play vanguards I block top all the time like a man and still can block all the shit they throw at me. pls buff zerker

>>170542826
>Why do I have to play 300 matches to get an emote?
what? do orders. i can get 2k+ steel a day just playing stuff and doing orders in between.

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>>170542745
>berserkers spazzing their guard side to side
WHICH WAY DO I FUCKING BLOCK

>>170542593
I might start playing my orochi again just for this emote and the amount of salt it would generate

What even is the correct Crushing Counterstrike timing for the Orochi's JINJYOU NI SHOUBU backstep attack?

Barely anyone ever uses it so I have basically zero practice against it.

>>170542416
Does the Warlord have any taunts that are not in the game yet? I REALLY want that sword chest bump taunt from his intro video in the campaign.

>>170542923
you react to it, you cuckold

Anyone else stuck at the main menu? I've been contacting servers for 5 minutes now.

>>170542863
dont be a fotm shitter anon

follow your heart or you'll end up in Niflheim instead

>>170542923
Their stance swap might be quick, the attack animation gives you more than enough time to block.
I hate assassins that do this though, they're not even trying to do things right.

>>170542868
They're feeding you a poleaxe, generally.

>>170542658
Context is hard through text. Anyway he was a bit boring for me at first but he's fun once you start getting into feinting games

>>170542868
As a general rule for Lawbringers, keep your guard on top as their pommel bash is their fastest attack.

Everything else they do is laughably slow or unblockable and you should dodge the unblockables for free GBs.

>>170542745
>Berserker vs Berserker fights look absolutely retarded.

It's just as retarded as fucking berzerker as any other character

>playing duels reluctantly
>trying to level up all my Knights equally
>only other two I have to get to Rep 3+ are Warden and Peacekeeper
>pick PK because I need to learn the matchup more than Warden
>get matched against a Raider
>try not to just mash lights like a scrub, actually go for deflects and counter attacks
>because Raider is so shit the score is now 2-0
>I say "Man this matchup is fucking rough"
>"Maybe for a scrub like you, PK annihilates Raider"
>"I know, that's why I said the matchup was rough"
>win the 3rd round unsurprisingly, Raider is garbage lol
>tell him I'll switch characters
>go Warden, he stays Raider
>again I try to actually use all the character's skills to their effect, don't just shouldermeme endlessly
>he starts complaining about how Warden is OP
>"Not really, I think Warden is just really strong. PK is OP in her lights and AoE."
>he rants about how I don't know what I'm talking about
>k
>win the 3rd round because he didn't ledge me when he had the opportunity to twice
>parry his hop attack and toss him off the edge
>"So that's how it's gonna be, huh"
>"If you just use OP characters I may as well, too."
>switch to Conqueror to counterpick the incoming PK/Warlord selection
>it's fucking Shugouki
>perfect him twice, almost a third
>"After that how can you think Shugouki is OP?"
>"I never said that"
>uhhhhhhhhhhhh
>he whines in the lobby for another minute before readying up
>game starts
>see who he picked
>Warlord
>rep 3
>all this time he was bitching about OP shit and he's rep 3 with fucking WARLORD
>make him play tag for about 10 minutes
>"man you're a really sore loser"
>are you fucking serious
>leave the match feeling confused and in wonder how someone so hypocritical and full of themselves can exist

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Roll me a new class to play.

7 decides.

Doubles and if it's a class I already have at rep 3, I take that class to rep 7. If not, you get to decide skin colour and gender.

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Are all the quitters who said goodbye in this general just shitters who failed to Get Gud?
(I'm a PK btw)

>>170543008
I'm pretty sure AI Warlord has one where he just clanks his sword on his shield 5 or 6 times while looking around.

>>170543374
I'm not reading this, 7 decides what I read

>>170543418
Peacekeeper. Condition: You actually have to learn her and not just do endless light attacks.

>>170543092

Well, at least in the case of Berserker vs Berserker is that you really have no option to try anything else. Which is why Berserker vs Berserker is pretty much 90% just swinging one light at a time because any follow up will result in a parry and a heavy-side, or GB into wall and heavy top which just deletes half your health bar, then back to dancing.

>>170543342

Trying to do the dance against a Warden is just going to get you killed because you need to play reactionary against Wardens that has any clue what they're doing. But I get your point, yeah.

alright i've been gone for a while because zelda and other shit, did they nerf warden yet?

>>170543462
That one's in the game though, you can buy it.

>>170543508

They let Blackbeard run rampant for 2 seasons in Rainbow Six Siege, before they even touched him. What do you think?

>>170543470
tl;dr
Dude complaining about OP shit and uses Warlord.

So I got my main to Reputation 10.

Do I keep going or pick up an alt?

I still have fun playing it and stopped caring about cosmetic unlocks at like rep 6.

>>170543443
OwO what's this?

>>170543508
Warden is balanced.

there's nothing wrong with Vortex, get gud and it's counterable every time.

>>170543597
>7
Well, god damn.

>>170543593
He was nerfed in the mid season reinforcements of Season 3 to have the two weaker shields, and in Season 4 he got nerfed to two super weak shields. Better example would be Ubi buffing Ash twice throughout the game's lifetime but never nerfing her even once.

>>170543593
this is my first ubisoft game since rainbow six vegas my dude
if it's as bad as you say, fuckin hell

>>170543508
Never ever.

>>170543443
No? The game is boring and stale, with little reputability. The balance issues are glaringly obviously.

I assume you're not in high level play yet, but when you are it's painfully boring, every attack is parried or at least blocked, and guard breaks never go through except after parry. The entire match is a game of feinting and spamming guard break in the hopes your opponent doesn't counter it.

But yeah, I wouldn't assume a PK plays at high level.

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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club

>>170543820
>metalkid267

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>>170543820
>metalkid267

>>170543820
>xbox
>metalkid267

This is great.

>>170543867
the xbox360 was released 12 years ago anon. i came up with a stupid gamertag too and im not gonna shill out $10 to change it

>>170543943
Don't you get one change for free per account lifetime? Anyway, pardon the shitpost, best of luck to you in assembling people to play with.

>>170543820
>Your name
Witty comment

>>170543943
tfw i'm in the same boat.
Hey think about it this way.
Atleast your gamertag isn't fucking MEMESMaStEr64

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>beat rep 5 warlord as warden without shoulder bashing at all and only using zone attack once
>wow warden is so overpowered
>leaves

BUFF BESERKER SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO BERSERK

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>>170544126
>Mfw I play Nobushi and use swift recoil every time a Berserker tries to mash buttons on me

Is this game better with a controller or Mouse and Keyboard?

>>170543695

It wasn't until season 4 he was considered to be remotely balanced. He still could do 90% of the things he could do with his 150 hp shields. He still had 100% pickrate in the pro-scene until that point.

>>170544371
Are you any good with thumb sticks? If not, go with kb&m.

>>170544371
PC master race baby!

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>>170543867
>>170543904
>>170543928
>>170544065
I was eleven back in '09 i was going throgh an edgy phase. Leave me alone :(

>>170544387
Pro league gameplay is hardly indicitive of ACTUAL matchmaking.

>Duel orders
>First duel of the day
>Rep 2 Warden
>Pick my level 15 Lawbringer
>Manage to get him into a NO SUPERSTES loop until he gets so mad the just runs away and stands at a cliff

I love Lawbringer.

>>170544371
M&K unless you've been a controller user from an early age -and- own the game on PC or PS4, (rebinding) or own a controller with back paddles (Xbone Elite or otherwise)

The default controller settings are fucking ass and cannot be changed in-game. And the M&K controls are actually quite good.

>>170543820
Oh, I had one of those metal statues as a kid

And I also play on XBox, but it doesn't belong to me because I sure as hell wouldn't buy an XBox, so I'm not gonna join because I'd rather not sign up someone else's account

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HELP

How do I fight Nobu as LB? I keep getting my ass stomped by the chain of light jabs from the left.

>>170544517
You mean Analouge? I'm reasonbly good with them, I normally play fighters with them.
I'm kinda concerned though because the gameplay looks like I need to take my thumb off the attack button to change guard direction. I notice with a keyboard you just move your mouse.

>>170543593

For honor devs seem more active than the siege ones were at launch

>>170544781
The same thing you always do as a LB.

>>170544781
Block left?

>>170544781
You don't. Nobu is just a really bad matchup for LB as you can't rely on attacking after parries.

You just have to block and parry her until she runs out of stamina and ledge her.

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Reminder to let your teammates have their fun.

>>170544781
What I usually do is parry her attacks, which are mostly light, and AD MORTEM off of the parry. Do that 3 times, and she's dead.

Of course, it only works when my reactions are actually working that day.

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>>170544840

I try but I keep getting stun locked into a chain that I can't get out of.

>>170544858

That was the only thing that was working, sort of. Once she was out of stam she ran and I managed to spear her into a corner and bully a couple times. Still ended up losing the match twice though.

Idk just looking for tips since this matchup has just been going terrible.

>mfw Nobu takes 75% of my HP in the first 10 seconds

>>170544613

I don't think you understand what 100% pickrate means in a pro-scene. That means something is so absurdly too strong that not picking that is detrimental to your team. Even when nerfed, he still had 100% pickrate until his current shields.
And no, actual matchmaking still had something like 85% pickrate on attackers, if not higher for Blackbeard until that patch that nerfed him down to the mortal levels.

>>170544813

They kind of are, but it's still not nearly the amount of attention a game of this supposed scope should get. They really can't have the same level of slackness in patches like they do in R6S, where they just gather up a huge chunk of things and then make a mid-season patch that addresses all these things. Not in a game's infancy, not in a game with this type of audience. A shooter will always have the same appeal, you shoot, things die. But in this, if they aren't swift, it will literally die into the same depths that R6S was before they got their shit together and started fixing it up. That game was on the brink of death before it kicked back up. That's not a stage you WANT to get down to.

>>170545065

Lets see how the DLC patches are that will make or break this game

>>170545051
If she's comboing you with kicks remember to mash dodge after she hits you with any heavy attack.

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>tfw assassinating an assassin

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>>170542308
I think I made it better
changed title to "how to hitconfirm" to shrink the scope of the image down, you can always do shit like feint the next swing in your chain after a hitconfirm to bait out a parry

>>170544858
Literally block one light and AD MORTEM the bitch for 45% health.

>>170544858
LB's light after a parry gives no fucks about nobu's reach, it'll connect.

>>170545312
Parry*

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>>170543867
>>170543928

Don't bully metalkid he did nothing wrong

>>170545065

Would this game truly be popular if the servers worked? Its an issue but people would still leave the game

anyone got a good youtuber to watch for high level gameplay?

>>170545312
Good Nobushis shouldn't be using lights outside of hidden stance, her lights are shit.

I'm assuming he's fighting someone that knows what they're doing and isn't throwing constant parry baits.

>>170545216
Replace
>wait for an attack
with
>bully them with positioning, dashes, and occasional shoves until they mindbreak and attack

>>170545142
*conditions u to expect kicks*
*guardbreaks u when u try to dodge*

Psssh...

which direction does PK zone come from?

>>170545552
Right, she'll cancel the second hit and throw an attack from the top most often.

>>170544090
There is the argument that having those tools puts the threat in your mind and makes you play differently.

>>170543820
>metalkid267
Kek, I've been there anon don't worry. I'll gladly join the group, would be nice to play with some lads

>>170543820
>metalkid267
I'm dying

>>170545509
I might make a "did they attack?" bubble on top, with "yes" leading to "blocked it", and "no" leading to "bully (etc)"

>>170545150
Jesus fucking Christ I need to edit cat in the hat in the next screenshot I take

Conqbot is fucking bullshit
Not even Warbot acts like this much of a tremendous faggot

>LB spends 15 seconds bumping me and trying to gb me
>In the end I realize he didn't do any damage to me
What the fuck is the point of that shit?

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>playing duels as rep 3 Nobu
>the enemy is a rep 7 Nobu
>I had plenty of time to learn how to fight her, which is parrying lights and then landing a heavy, while looking out for kicks
>win the first game 3 to 1, one time the dude fell off a bridge trying to gb me
>says it was the map's fault and wants a rematch
>wreck him once more, this time no ledges to fall off, mock him with an emote a couple times
>i'm sitting all smug, waiting for him to start insulting me and bringing up excuses
>he says that this time it's really a gg, and that i'm good and leaves
Now I feel kinda bad about those emotes.

>>170545430
>TrU3Ta1ent
He's the only one I've spent any time watching and he seems pretty good. I haven't watched all his videos but I think I've only seem him lose a couple of times legitimately.

If you're a Warden main (like myself) then you should watch
>Mege

He's pretty impressive and knows exactly how to open up enemies properly. Alternatively, you could watch him to find out how to beat a high level Warden or more realistically, find out just how screwed you really are.

So this is going to be my first time playing after the Valk buff, what should I expect to see the people playing her attempt to do?

>>170545957
I know Trutalent, not sure I really like him.
I'll check Mege , thank you.
Any good guides or such on Valkyrie and Kensei?

>>170546035
Chain lights and be annoying with shieldbash/sweep combos.

>>170546035
Lights, general bullshit.

>>170542416
Is that from the new pack they promised to release sometime soon in the last dev stream?

>duels
>fight a conq that doesn't even try to parry anything, just shield bash spams

>>170545957
>Mege
That guy did a video where he was owning people with prestige 0 LAW. That was really impressive.

>>170546087
Sounds like the things they already did. I'm guessing now she just does more damage?

I feel pretty prepared for it.

>>170546165
>duels
>fight people that play defensively and never take risks
wow who would have guessed

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im sick of playing conqueror
tell me your favourite colour and character, and if its my favourite colour ill play them

>>170546209
Her most damaging thing is shield bash into the sweep into the top heave, and it can be started with left/right light chain. You'll see what I mean when you encounter it. Just stay in the neutral when she tries to shield bash and have solid fundamentals. Also, if she does top heavy opener just block and get a free GB from it.

>>170546257
>Green
>Warden
Deus Vult

>>170546257
Blue, Nobushi!

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I swear, they just reinforce the Orochi meme without even realizing it.

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>>170545916
delet

>>170546257
>Red
>Kensei

>>170546257
orange
warlord

>>170546257
Green.
Lawbringer.

>>170546387
thank fuck its warlord

>>170546352
Who would even watch somebody play WoW. Those people are sick. The world is sick.

>>170546352
>zelda, horizon and wildlands will be down to sub 1000 viewers in 2 weeks or so
>every for honor tournament has 6k + people watching

try
again

>>170546121
Unclear.

>>170546438
mfw Sodapoppin will always be more rich and famous than you

>>170546257
purple
berzerker

>>170527807
>>Dude everyone complaining about this problem is just wrong, the connection for the game is perfect!

Not what I said.

>You're fucking retarded.

A statement made after you created your own made up, imaginary version of things I said.

>Games should not be crashing all the time in a fucking $60 game.

They're not. Your first post in this conversation disproves this idiotic notion: "... can't play for a few hours without several games crashing, players getting dropped, and sometimes even ONE player leaving ends the match."

Several games crashing! In a few hours! This game is BROKEN.


Again, oh, WOW, BOO FUCKING HOO! ANON SPENT 60 BUX ON A VIDYA GAEM AND IT DONT NOT WORK TOO PERFECTLY GUD 23/8, OH FUG!

Welcome to online fighters you fucking dumb naive faggot, sometimes the game shits itself because p2p, every fighter with online capability has had this problem, and will have this problem.

>>170546431
I kinda want to see more conqs play warlord because I don't see how conq is anything more than a discount warlord

His shield bounces heavies, but that's just compensation for being unable to parry while charging, and nothing bounces when you're fullblocking anyway

He can bash out of side dodges, but it's more telegraphed than warlord's headbutt

That's about all I got

So hows 4 honor on the pc.

I dont know if I want to drop 60 for it right now but, eh, finances.

>>170546753
why would you ever pay 60 for a PC game.
you get them for 40 or even cheaper from resellers

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Oh

>>170545916
This is the direction the game is going if they don't address how absurd defensive play is. The only good offensive options in the game are just attacks that are nearly impossible to react to and the only good offensive characters are ones with more than one of those.

>>170546751 (Me)
Oh, and the bash R2 wall combo of course

and he has better feats in meme modes

how many fucking disconnects is this game gonna keep doing until its fucking happy?!
3 games in a row Im kicking ass then get disconnected

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>>170546349

>>170546818
Why didn't you just run up to him and tech his guardbreak? You know that's all he'd be going for.

>>170546793
hmm. i duno man. steam, its easy.

>>170546959
>get destroyed
>get mocked for it
>come to your safe space to post about it

Really sad tbqh familia

>>170546962
I was planning to do that if we dicked around earlier but fortunately he disconnected.

>>170546886
>>170546751
played 5 games
all against rep 5+ people
got my shit kicked in
yeah i think im just gonna lay off for honor until my passion wears off or centurion comes out early, either or
god the matchmaking in this game is fucking garbage

Has a lawbringer here ever won a high prestige duel? Just tried lawbringer and mostly all I could do was parry heavies. I got chop sue'ed by a roach's lights since LB is so goddamn slow.

LOL GUYS

I JUST FOUND OUT HOW TO WIN IN DUELS

YOU JUST HAVE TO BACK BACK BACK BACK AND PLAY 100% DEFENSIVE AND YOU WIN

hahahahahaha what a shit game, go figure its already dead

>>170546886
Warlord is a perfect all around character. Tanks. Sprints the fastest of all the heavies. Swole healthy body. Loves to trade. Uses his head. All feats have great synergy.

.....and that's why the rest of us hate him. I can see why you'd think that conq is a discount warlord, but conq will usually turtle to win, while a warlord can open up.

>>170547440
>Not just getting gud
*sigh*
Maybe this general.....isn't for you, kid....

>>170547440

Just lost a match?

>revive now put you at critical health instead of 100%
Thoughts ?

>>170546976
you get a key from the site
you put it into uplay
you have the game
SO HARD

>>170547440
>playing duels
There's a reason that shit is low activity permanently.

>>170547559
Great way to farm renown for assassin types?

>>170547559
No. You'd instantly get ganked and dropped again, especially if there's still a teamfight going on in the nearby area. That will serve only to inflate the enemy team's score and widen the gap even more.

>WAAH I LOST A DUEL

>WAAAH GAME IS DEAD SEE!!! ITS DEAD BECAUSE IM BAD

>WAAAAH


Literaly shittiest general rn desu.

>>170547636
This. All the problems with the game are highlighted in 1v1's. It's why I don't understand why they're using it as the benchmark for competitive play. 2v2's aren't as bad but still not good.

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>duel
>fighting a LB
>go out of my way not to ledge him because I'm still learning Raider
>he throws me off as soon as he can
>ok, well, fuck it
>throw him off a bunch
>he ragequits when I win

If this were any other hero but LB I'd laugh but I kind of feel bad

>>170547948
>Not ledging whenever you get the chance
I used to be that way too, I would refuse to ledge and then immediately get ledged myself.

Embrace gravity, love the ledge.

>>170547948

When the ranked mode comes do you think people will give a shit?

They will do anything to win

>tfw 99% of the people complaining about the meta are too low skill for the meta to actually apply to them

And there is the problem, players are not matched by skill well enough. A scrub gets turboscumed by someone who knows what they are doing and goes online to learn about a meta that is 50% memes at best, and actually believes it.

>>170547435
Yeah I beat high prestige people regularly. I think I lost this particular set here 2-3, though.

Honestly if you've got solid basics and don't make mistakes you can win with any character at any level. Not that there aren't characters vastly better than others, but sometimes you just make really really hard reads on something like a Peacekeeper's light attack direct and then you slam them with your Blind Justice for like 40%+ health.

>>170547440
Who pissed in your cereal?

FUCK THIS GAME!!!!
I CANT EVEN FUCKING PLAY IT ANYMORE.
CONSTANT FUCKING CRASHES THAT MAKE NO SENSE!
CONSTANT FUCKING DISCONNECTS!
AND I CANT EVEN GET A FUCKING REFUND

>>170548204
>>170548115

I'm not against ledging, I just like actually fighting the other guy. If I put myself in that position, I deserve to get ledged.

I have not been able to complete a single fucking match today.
if it isnt a disconnect which is something like 000600018 or some shit, its the game fucking freezing because of the memory THEY STILL HAVNT FUCKING FIXED

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Is it even worth trying to get into Conq at this point, since we already know they're gonna gut him?

>>170548264
every new player should have to watch those guide videos in the OP before they are allowed to talk about other classes and the meta

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>>170548275
forgot to attach webm and cbf to find it in my folder anymore. this is a different one.

>>170548264
My fav thing is when people bitch that I'm "turtling" just because I'm not fucking hammering them until I'm out of stamina constantly. I'm probably the least turtling player ever, I love to throw out random lights to try to catch people when they press buttons.

>>170548356
That's a good attitude to have. A lot of times people get ledged it's their own fault. Even most bridge maps have a small area you can back up to fight in to avoid playing near ledges, but people don't think that positioning and spatial control is part of the game for some reason.

>>170547948
>elimination
>fighting Raider as conqueror
>winning ez
>he runs away to a bridge
>chase him
>tries to ledge me with a running tackle
>dodge and ledge him
>messages me and calls me scum
Aways ledge, anon. Always ledge.

have you guys seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39VKWDKRrO8

pretty good idea for discussing matchups
are there more videos like this?

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OFFICIAL TIER LIST SHITS ON FIRE NIGGA EDITION!

FAGGOTS ONLY PLAY THIS TIER: PK, Valk, Warlord

HIGH/KEK TIER: Conq, Nobushi, Warden

MID/BRO APPROVED TIER: Shugoki, Kensei, Raider (debatable)

LOW/JUSTFUCKMUHSHITUP TIER: LawBringer, Orochi, Zerker

FITE ME YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

>>170548693
put orochi as mid tier and I more or less agree

The devs need to increase the steel rewards of duel modes. 30 steel is a joke.

>>170548693
Orochi is a decent character, he doesn't have MANY options but he's got two very fast attacks and a dodge-attack which puts him higher than a decent bit of the cast.

Shugoki and raider definitely not on the same tier either.

>>170548753
Orochi is shit senpai. Needs a revamp completely desu

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Worth it? I don't think I ever get exhausted

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/v/ IS LAUGHING AT US!!!!!!!!

WTF UBIBROS HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN

MORDHAU WAS SUPPOSED TO FAIL IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE SUPERIOR P2P FIGHTAN GAME SERVERS!!!!!!!

F-F-F-FCUKING MOIRDHAUBRO AND HIS SHILLING!!!! THIS IS H I S FAULT


>>>/v/369934936

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>>170546349

>>170548874
c-could it be?
Mordhau shill bro have you...come back to us?

>>170548818
Just management really. Debuff resist is broken desu. Bleed does nothing stuns do nothing etc etc

>>170548814
he's a tier above zerk and LB for sure, like the other poster said I'm not even sure raider and shugoki belong on the same tier given that shugoki is just a better raider

>>170548693
but only faggots play Warden

>>170548818
You should get a helmet that has 100% maxed debuff resistance if you can, it's COMPLETELY fucking broken and will not only make you immune to bleeds but also prevent people from punishing you on a lot of shit they should be able to punish you for.

People bitch about revenge gear but at least revenge gear doesn't completely change the rules of the game, just makes them gayer.

>>170547521
>>170547530
>>170548307
prove me wrong, orichis

POST MUSIC

KENSEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZMsz3gDrwA

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>>170548885
>plays PK
>BMs
>plays memematch mode
>shitposts on /fhg/
>is probably a massive faggot RL

Everything checks out

>>170548693
>faggots only play warlod

Im never mad when a warlord kills me. Theres no reason to call him a faggot.

I kinda want to play a game napolean era theme with muskets, using for honors fighting system and indicators.

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>>170549195
>>>/reddit/

>>170549043
NOBUSHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXeOpj3RWI

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>>170548693
i played valk before the buff eat a dick

>>170549043
Been using these since that samurai quest video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_ppzGo4eE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2N_IENndIc

>>170548693
warden is above conq and nobushi as well

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>>170549273
Cool argument dude.

Ill continue not being mad at warlord.

>>170548693
>shugoki
>bro tier

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>>170549195
AHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA *inhales* AHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA

>>170549195
>Im never mad when a warlord kills me.
probably because you're a warlord player that got beaten by a better warlord player.
>>170549281
fair enough, doesn't mean valk isn't OP since the patch though.

>>170549345
I feel like Conq is above Nobu as well, she's good but she doesn't have the kind of shit that the actual high tier characters have.

>>170549486
Or I Can admit that the reason i died is because of my mistakes, not blaming the character someone played.

I know this is a hard concept for simple folk but if you try to learn from your mistakes you wont tossed around like a whore by one class.

Learn to counter play man. Learn what not to do when you fail and youll get better.

Or just sit here and complain and stay bad, up to you.

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>play match vs guy
>say if he lose he'll crash the game so no one gets exp/loot
>he lose
>game crashed

ubishit sort your shit out please

>>170549564
I agree, the hierarchy I'd have is warden > conq > nobu

I think warden belongs on the lower end of OP faggot tier

>>170541957
*parried*

I'm starting to feel worse and worse for getting close to Rep 15 on my Lawbringer.

It's like everyone has high expectation of me.

Even worse is when i have a mirror match against myself and i'm not accustomed to it.

>Character is called Centurion
>He's wearing Legionnaire armor
????

>>170549043
Not for a specific character even though it sounds samurai like. Mainly just because pso2 music is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACRBZVuMZNY

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>>170549728

and wears a calvary mask

and uses a cestus

For honor is not meant to be historical

>>170548790
More like 21 steel. Sheeit.

>>170549113
Tell us more about where the peacekeeper touched you.

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TRILL NIGGA TIER LIST

TOP: Warlord, PK > Warden
STRONG: Valkyrie, Conqueror
VIABLE: Orochi
WEAK: Kensei, Berserker, Nobushi
ASS: Lawbringer, Raider

>>170549879
Nice shoop.

>>170549879

Fake!

>>170549658
I'm not annoyed at losing to balanced characters, just means I was outskilled. warlord isn't balanced, things like headbutt > light have very little counterplay because of how fast it comes out.

I main LB and I beat warlords regularly, but the actually good warlord players know exactly how to use his (overpowered) kit to beat anyone and at that point it isn't a matter of skill to just outplay them.

>>170549879
I can't wait for the game to come out and 70% of people in duels are Ninjas.

Bonus points if the Ninja turns out to be OP.

>>170550021
VIABLE: Orochi, Shugoki^

>>170550021
Where is shugoki?

>>170550080
>>170550030
>Official promotional art shows a centurion and a ninja
Shoop or not, who cares. They're confirmed anyway.

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It really felt good ending on that move while fighting this warden for 3 minutes because he keep chugging on his Sunny D.

>>170547636
And that is because most people are just fucking bad and are scared of getting their ass handed to them in an honest 1v1 fight?

>>170550021
Nobushi's weak? I'd think she'd be viable.

>>170550021
I can agree with this if shugoki is in viable

>>170549879
>Check news about them
>"It looks like first additional content for Ubisoft's melee action online game For Honor has been discovered by Reddit users"
Didn't the leak come form here?

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I still don't understand what happened here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Z1o23-Qlc

I didn't parry successfully but still got the ad mortem.


Also does anyone else loose their shit when you accidently move backwards when you AD MORTEM, placing yourself out of reach?

>>170550169
He could have blocked that heavy.

>>170550094
>things like headbutt light.

Oh you mean that headbut I have to do After I use after I either drain my stam downguarding, or after I leap at you which is very very predictable.

Followed by the worlds least damaging left click in the game?

Yeah man thats so broken. Hey after I headbutt you 3 times and deal 10 damage maybe youll get to do something when im completely exhausted.

>>170550337

It came from twitch actually

>>170550219
Her only benefit is damage output.

Slow ass, easily punishable unblockable.
Easily parried lights. While one of her benefits is not being GB'd off of parries, characters with dash GBs can still land them on parries.
She also has one of the slowest block stance switches in the game.

While hidden stance dodging is good, her followups out of them are too slow to actually punish a lot of things even when she makes the correct read.

>>170550021
Weak: kensei, berserker, nobush
Nigga u crazy get yo ass out of here.

>>170550367

You can't block a heavy after a deflect from the berserker.

It's a free heavy after every deflect.

>>170550379
B8

>>170550109
>>170549879

Will Orochis image be clean once the ninja comes out and all the faggot orochis go to him?

>>170549879
Probably gonna get a Corinthian helmet too.

Honestly, as long as he gets a sideways plume ornament people aren't gonna notice how much of a clusterfuck the armor it

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I finally found a Youtuber who isn't afraid to play PK
Too bad he only likes duel and brawl - but he's got good tips none the less
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Fzlr1F3zo
(webm unrelated but watch the nobushi lol)

>>170550516
Really compelling argument my dude. Stay trash.

Why are other berserker's lights so much faster than mine?

>>170550021
>valk not on top tier
>kensei and nobushi not in viable tier
also I think you can move raider and LB to weak tier, none of the heroes in this game are completely unworkable

>>170550379
exhaustion is a joke in this game, doesn't mean a thing, just play safe until you recuperate and you're fine.

take warlord's headbutt light for granted if you want, but its a relatively safe confirmed light if you land the headbutt, which is easy to do because of how fast it comes out

>>170550491
Its not garunteed people can block side heavys after a deflect. Only a light or a throw is garunteed.

>>170550169
You're lucky as fuck he was too stupid to crushing counter that forward dash attack

>>170549043

Berserker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JapDyUwAu8

Kenshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ardKrcFIfMU

Shugoki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-gvIeNWAPo

>>170550556

The armor is kinda of a sort of fantasy retelling due to For Honors werid timeline


I really WISH ubisoft focused more on lore

>tree champion status wears off
>rare items go from 50% to like 10%
Is it really this strong or am i just getting unlucky? Going from prestige 2-3 i got like 30blues out of 70 or so drops. So far on my next class i have got 10 out of almost 60 when my status wore off.

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>>170550242
>>170550152


>>170550146

>>170550425
people with those characters have to outplay people by orders of magnitude in order to reach half the performance of their better versions.

Guarantee you 50% of the godlike Wardens you run into are former Kensei players.

>>170550637
>it doesnt mean a thing

Nigger just feint me then GB you joking?

Do you know how easy you can pull that off during your oponents exhaustion.

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>>170549043

>Kensei
Dead Season by Force of Nature (?) - Samurai Champloo OST. It's never on Youtube.
https://youtu.be/6sNfzeg9q6A
https://youtu.be/FXQASAxx0FA

>Roach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMEfGwBNE4o
https://youtu.be/m8nDFPeSK0I


>Raider
https://youtu.be/LwJmwp8IwRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvfpwJNnHkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OWKSy5j4lk

>>170550521
Maybe. There's still gonna be a huge population that fetishizes Samurai and katanas specifically that the class will still be tainted.
People also like to stick with the things they know.

>>170550782
still techable if the exhausted player opts to just block the attack instead of attempting a parry.

alternatively, operate within the limits of your stamina and it isn't a problem.

>>170547559
Increase the amount of time it takes to revive for each subsequent revive.

Or reduce max health by 25% each time they get picked up.

Or both.

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>>170549879

>cestus
>fucking armored gloves

FUCKING WHY

>>170550617
I sub main him. How da fuck is head butt bad? People dodge it? Just bait it into gb or parry. They go for a hit? all block.
Out of stam? No prob just turtle for 5 seconds.

>>170550379

>defending warlord

lol

>>170549879
he clearly has a sword in the portrait dummy

>>170550629
For some reason i read that as:

>Why are other berserker's lights so much faster than anime?

>>170550913

Its cool?

Think of the combos he can do

>>170550893
If thats the case then it doesnt differ for any character, the point still stands, the headbutt into his light does 10 damage and drops stam hard especially if its from a downblock.

I dont see how thats a problem, on top of that you can dash out of the headbutt. sometimes, its weird.

>>170550913
This but I call bullshit. They are not going to make a ducking Roman centurion use a god damn fist weapon, ubishit is not that autistic

Who is that guy from the OP hero guides and why do we endorse him?

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>>170550661

Not from the berserk,you get a free GB everytime you deflect and the side heavy connect and they can't do a single thing about it.

>>170550725

I'm not I know he was going to do that because every standard (shit) Warden only play with these two move, top light or zone attack no feint,nothing easy as fuck to predict especially when you are low life.

>>170549043
Kensei:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIwbusbN1g

>>170550998

he better be a fucking tank otherwise he'll be outranged by literally ever other character

>>170547559
>Revive puts you at 50% health, you still have the normal max health pool.
>Each subsequent death, the timer on how long you can be revived ticks much more quickly, and you revive with lower health. 25% on second revive, one bar on third.

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>>170550591

>>170550765
Yup and the godlike PKs are former zerks. They really are just upgrades of those classes.

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>>170549926
I wish Peacekeeper would touch me

>>170550913
>>170550982
>>170551071
>>170551115


He uses a Gladius and Cestus and will probably be a DLC Vanguard

Think about it I doubt a gladius could be 3 weapon parts and a cestus even if it used mostly by gladiators is kind of a cool idea in a game like For honor

Besides if he has scutum people will complain about shield cancer

>>170550731
Kinda sorta lets you explain away everything in the For Honor universe when you say it's a fantasy retelling 1000 years after a cataclysm in ~1000AD

Why does Raider not wear a shirt in battle?
Because combat has (d)evolved over 1000 years and the Vikings are a bunch of religious zealots.
Like yeah, it makes sense, but it just makes the factions look like a bunch of idiots and the combat is all ceremonial for some reason.

>>170550832
That shinobi song is fucking amazing.

>>170551024
It differs from other characters because he has a tool that lets him confirm a light safely, it costs a lot of stamina but its a good trade.

the only time I've shutdown warlord's headbutt is with a top light, never been able to dodge out of it.

the point is, warlord gets a lot of useful tools, he's good at trading and wearing people down and if you get GB'd anywhere near a hazard or even a wall you're going to get a whupping. I'm not trying to make you feel bad for playing warlod but at least acknowledge that he's over-performing.

>>170550995
can I get an answer?

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How does counter gb work!? I keep pressing square (□) when they touch me but it ain't working.

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FUCK ALL OF YOU I'M BACK KETTLE BALL ACTION OFFICIAL TIER LIST BABY AWWWOOOOOOOOOOO!!

BROKEN AS FUCK MEME TIER FAGGOT SHIT: Valk, PK, Warlord

HIGH/EZ MODE TIER: Nobushi, Conq, Warden

MID/GOOD TASTE TIER: Shugoki, Orochi, Kensei

LITERALLYKEKED TIER: Berserker, Lawbringer, Raider

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK YOU ALL AND FITE ME NEWFAGS I'M ON PC

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>female warriors

Every time.

>>170541687
This is the truth. Does full charge beat a backroll or is it actually a 100% safe escape for a little bit of stamina? Whoever says the options favor the Warden over the opponent are insane honestly.

>>170551247

What if when the centurion parries he grabs the fucking blade?

>>170546194
Mege taught me how to feint. He's my mentor

>>170551073
Bro, I main zerk and everytime I deflect and go for a side heavy its blocked. Only time it hits is if they dont know you can block it or if they try to parry it.

I just start a light feint chain or throw them into a wall for a top heavy.

>>170549879
>ninja
>has weapons
>historical ninjas were generally non violent

Buff Raider.

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>Really want the ''Insert new spine'' execution
>Can't stop spending steel to try and get my unique weapon parts

Don't make me do it Ubisoft

>>170551460
What exactly is broken with valk? I think she's balanced just right

t. NOT a valkmain

>>170551376
The only thing I have to say about my games with warlord is his hyper armor is pretty strange.

But hes also pretty like, small ranged, ive been fucking rekt by higher range classes like nobushi that can out range me, and I cant just leap forward 24 7. doesnt work like that. specially with a side dash counter light that will bleed me.

I feel like people dont take advantage of my short range. I have a hard time against someone who plays deffensive more than they do when i play safe.

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>>170546257
Black
Raider

>>170551168
I dont understand why this happens. Only ever happens with fast zone attacks. They dont even use the indicator bug either.

>trying out warden for the first time, because im getting bored of playing conqueror at rep 5 because its fuckin repetitive
>go into a match
>rep 7 warden
>excuse me
>proceeds to bitch slap me
>i get paired up with this man 4 times despite there is "high" activity in duels
how the unholy fuck am i supposed to learn a different character when im getting matched up with dorks who play nothing but their mains?
also is the game that fucking dead where "high" means 2 people?

>>170551460
When did Valk become god tier?
Her light spam is ten times easier to stop than a PK and doesn't even deal half the damage.

>>170551703
You learn by getting your balls kicked in. Just ask yourself what you vould have done better

>>170551681
>black
>vikings


When will hollywood stop pushing this fucking garbage meme

>>170551649
Insert new spine is thoroughly satisfying my dude. Totally worth it.

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>>170550637
I'd put Raider in weak before LB. LB has nothing ambiguous until you're out of stam and/or he can land a top heavy. Even then, he's so slow you can GBC/block/parry based off of his animations alone.

Sure, he's technically workable, but they're ass because those characters require you to grossly outplay their opponents to win. People with high win rates against competent players with those characters would probably be untouchable if they mained anyone in Strong or Top tier.

>>170551703
You'll learn from playing him. Just open up dem cheeks

>>170544607
Your not alone, been meaning to change mine for a while as well. Will join said group thought after work, could use more people to play with

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>>170551649
Personally i think the gold hilt/guard look way better than the unique for kensei.

>>170551803
He probably got vortexed to fuck and back, so he should have guessed better?

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Everyone complains about what they don't like fighting against, but what do you like fighting against? It can't be a stomp either way, true competition means respecting the other person for bringing their best while you do the same.

>>170551556
https://youtu.be/9Tvp5ca_FCw?t=189

Anyone got a good Valkyrie and Nobushi guide?
I need to learn my spear ladies