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Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

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Evovled: >>170517943
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077
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Dragon will rise again in Tempest.
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J I N J O U N I
_Z
_A
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This guy comes and slaps your neptits, how do you answer?
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Does anyone have a Wolfbolt build for me to see?
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What's satancat's opinion on the new cards? I don't understand weebnese
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Which of these are safe to liquefy? Brand new

Guessing Mythril golems, Beast Dominator, Pluto, Arch Summoner Erasmus. Any others?
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>>170533841
laugh because he misclicked nep instead of morde
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>>170533891
That's not Odin you stupid Shadowclown.
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>>170533874
fairy princess
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>>170533659
I'm hoping to have 10000 by the end of march. I'll probably make it.
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>mfw I get the same pleasure from multiplying morde with urd and comboing with seraph
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So I read this from a flyer. Is this correct?

Does an egg a day keep bricking away? :^)
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>>170533874
Erasmus MIGHT become playable, rose queen will probably never be good. fairy princess seems save too
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Is Incandescent Dragon useable in constructed?
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post theories on forest legos
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>>170534054
>Erasmus MIGHT become playable

how?
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>>170534059
it is okay I guess
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RINRON
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>>170534074
They might probably be ridiculous as fuck.
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>>170534007
Almost there
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>Intent to Kill, 1 pp Bloodcraft spell.
>Activate vengance this turn.
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>>170534007
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>>170534074
1/1 for 4
Fanfare: get +1/+1 for each card in hand
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>>170534059
play it on the turn enhanced albert comes down and watch the swordfag's brain explode
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>10 game lose streak

This makes me want to drop dragon so badly but i don't know what else to play. The suffering, it hurts fellow dragon bros.
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>Win 1 match as Bloodcraft
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>>170534164
Bloodcraft has legoless aggro decks.
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>>170533984
>>170534054
Thanks anons
Are the cards I listed fairly safe to liquefy, outside of a maybe on Erasmus? Would have enough to get a budget deck running once I did
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>>170534164
I just rerolled this into win 1 rune. :^)
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>>170534074
5pp 3/3
your "play x or more cards" effects will trigger automatically while this card is on the board
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DING DONG
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>>170533874
I'd keep erasmus if by some kind of miracle the new rune legendary end up good.
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>>170534129
>4PP do nothing
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>>170534243
there are still some cards to be spoiled, so nothing is 100% save, but id say they are pretty save. you could wait another week or 2 if you want to play it save
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>>170534054
Erasmus might be playable because of the new lego. The same thing might happen to Rose Queen / Fairy Princess.
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Started at ROB launch. I now have

2 odin
3 saha
2 lucifer
1 satan

But no bahamut what so ever. I play storm garuda, aggro sword and control blood (relying on temptress and bm+bond to close games). At this point, should I make a bahamut for more control decks like sword and blood? It's close to expac release.
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Why is it that Khaiza is a silver in Shadowverse but a legendary in Rage of Bahamut?
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DING
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>>170534268
Win 1 blood feels easier than win 1 rune since the nerf. Dshift and Daria both feel like cointosses.
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>>170534358
seems on par for most forest leggos
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>>170534332
*attacks you with veight*
psch, thanks for the free bat...kid
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SCANS FUCKING WHEN?
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>>170534149
Just play face dragon, 55% win rate.
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>>170534428

>ginger

Unless bahamut somehow choked on a cookie and died, she's a meme.
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>>170534428
i cant really imagine a card that makes queen or princess better than the alternatives, but of course it might happen.
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What did cygames meant by this?
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>>170534636
poor meidos :(
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>>170534636
Rune must be purged
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>>170534475
D I N G
O
N
G
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>>170534636
Cygames refuses to balance the amount of maids in game
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>>170534596
The thing about her is that you don't need to play your entire hand. You can just use her alongside some other expensive follower and basically get a free 4/4. Using a Bahamut on this isn't particularly good.
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>>170534028
>does nothing until 7
>starts working from turn 1!
What did they mean by this?
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>>170534636
They don't even have the same ribbons
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>9pp
>Summon 5 free followers. Spellboost cost 1 less
>18pp
>Win the game. Spellboost cost 1 less.

>9pp
>Lose to Themis
Nice game, shadowbabs
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Need 1 win senpai

94296
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>A3 ranked match
>facing dragon as sword
>he drops gobu
>gobu doesnt fetch anything
>next turn he drops gobu again
>fetches nothing again
>i beat his ass
>"There's no one..."

What kind of meme am I being memed on here?
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>>170534745

So how many followers are you going to sandbag to bait out the bahamut? 2 + ginger? Why aren't you using Daria instead?
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I have a shit card collection and 4850 rupees.

Is take-two the most cost-effective way of spending them to build up a card collection?
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>>170534636
We need more archetype cards, for example, more Levin cards, more Anti-Goblin cards (Goblinslayer/Goblinbreaker), etc.
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>>170533718
SVG Open Tourney on Saturday
(Signups soon)

Time: Saturday, Mar 11 at 5pm PT
Previous tourney: http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT (finished)

Date may get moved to Fri/Sun because of Excelsior tourney on saturday. Depending on how big of a deal it really is.
But I figure it's best not move around the date too much at this point.

Any other anons here participating in the Excelsior tourney?
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>>170534853
Only if you can win at least 3 matches every time.
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>>170534636
>mfw the artist so unable to make more than 2 characters that people mistake them for the same ones
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>>170534164
Dunno, I just play aggro bat and do fine for dailies. Why is Vampy the only good blood card above silver rarity?
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>>170534840
Depends on how confident I am that they have / don't have Bahamut.

Daria can't give me a 0pp Lucifer or Erasmus.
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>>170534853
if you win more than 50% yes
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>>170534928
I don't think I'll be able to do that, guess I'll save up for the next expansion and blow everything there
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>>170534810
No one ?
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>new blood lego
>just a revamped version of soul dealer

Should I give up all hope for blood?

Meanwhile sword gets yet another bronken as fuck lego.
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Anyone have a link to an updated undub/uncensor. The current one breaks Isabelle's portrait.
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>>170534721
Bane?
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I want to be a cheap asshole and reap easy wins, which one do I pick
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>>170535138
Do it yourself
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>>170535168
Sword
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>>170535196

Do what myself?
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>>170535138
The people that worked in the uncesor stop playing this (like mostly everyone) so I dunno how to make it work.

But undub is just replacing the sound files in the steam folder.
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>>170535168
You're fucked, I'm afraid. Those are the three worst classes in Take Two.
Try Haven.
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>>170534929
Seems like the same artist who drew windgod/olivia/mastema
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>>170535168
None of these are excessively powerful in that regard.
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>>170535238
Uncensor the game?

The files in the OP have always been just the files from the JP version of the game. You can set it to JP through steam properties yourself, download the JP version, copy the uncensored files, download ENG version again, paste JP files into ENG version.
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>>170535138
https://mega.nz/#F!yUglGQhb!O2A9Z6v2wB4XlI_3T8KHvA
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Ginger seems like possible wincon for Dirtrune but what high cost cards should be run with her? Only Professor, Eramus and Lucifer comes to mind.
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>>170535256

Ah okay. Thanks.
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>>170535291
You must be fucking blind.
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>>170534636
So

what are flame rats anyway?
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>>170535409
I mean for the image I linked, not the maid/mutagenicbolt
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>>170535327
She's not even close to resembling a win con dude. 100% bait card that makes you play into Bahamut and lose every time.

>>170535487
1pp 1/1s that ping both leaders for 1 at start of turn.
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>>170535487
1/1 that deals 1 damage to both leaders at the start of the turn.
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>>170535327
Goblinmount is decent since his fanfare won't be triggered. Grand Gargoyle could be acceptable filler. You could also throw in Reina if you feel like being a memer.
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>>170534636
Mutagen bitches look like haven with their outfits and staff wielding.

They didn't mean anything, you just have bad eyes.
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>>170535626
You say she's not a win condition because she gets fucked by Bahamut, but the same is true for ptp and Pascale. Satan doesn't do great against him either. Bahamut fucks dirt rune in general.
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>>170535291
I love that artist's artstyle (especially on Forte uwu) but it's really way too samefacey.
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What do Shadowcraft and Bloodcraft players think of each other?
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What's the matchup for midsword vs nep shadow? I seem to always lose when I meet nep shadow. I'm not entirely sure what I should do here. Rush them down before khawy>nep>mord drops? They always seem to ward up so well and I just end up feeding them ammo for aoe or more skele walls.
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>>170535851
Vampy's cute, I like fapping to her too.
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>>170535851
I like lolis
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>T1 do nothing
>T2 Oracle
>T3 Uriel
>T4 Phoenix Roost
>T5 Forte evo (7 face dmg)
>T6 (overflow on) Bahamut (clear wards), Zel evo (13 dmg)
>GG

DRAGONBROS, OUR TIME HAS COME.
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>>170535851
Luna>Vampy, that's all we need to know.
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>>170535996
Luna for vanilla, Vampy for depraved stuff.
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>>170535851
There's nothing to think about blood, they're all weak.
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>>170535975
>T4 roost
that would just mean
>T5 autolose
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>>170535975
You mean egg on turn 1
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>>170535798
PtP does something immediately. With some setup you can use it to close without ever exposing it to Bahamut. And even if you don't get that option, you can at least get /some/ value out of it by using it to kill some stuff. What is Ginger doing? Some heals with Lucifer? Ghetto board clear with Erasmus that Prof just does better? I'm not buying it.

For how awful Pascale is, she at least has the decency of coming down 4 turns earlier in the phase of the game where your opponent hasn't necessarily drawn half their deck to have an answer.
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>>170535975
>not egging turn 1
You are not a real Dragonbro.
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I'm thinking right.
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I did it. But considering I did it with 584 wins, my win rate is probably really shitty. Like 35%, maybe? Could be me just being a shitter, could be me juggling too many decks. My win rate improved once I stuck to one deck and just held my face to the grinder (sword).

Anyway, how is AA scored? 100+ on win, 100+ on lose instead of 100+ on win, 70-100 on lose?
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>>170535851
Vampyposters seem the most autistic but maybe I lack self-awareness.
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>>170535291
Don't forget lucifer, albert, forte and few others
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>>170535851
Morde can burn in hell unless i got a odin in hand
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>>170536282
tough choice, but bahamut is too good to pass up

but if you already have one of him, then right for sure
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>>170536297
Same as A. 100 on win/loss, if you're matched against a better opponent, it's max 150 on a win and min 70 on a loss. 600 wins for AA0 is below average yeah.
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>>170536282
Always bet on Bahamut.
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>>170536078
>Aggro decks
All known aggro decks try to wear you down during the early turns, but due to board space limitations they shouldn't be able to kill you.
>Control decks
They can drop one or two big guys. During your forte turn you should ideally use the remaining 3pp to play one hard removal (e.g. take care of wards they might drop).
>Combo decks
Rarely have the combo pieces to win game at turn 5.

>>170536124
>>170536272
>polluting your uriel draws and compromise combo consistency
you're the fake dragonbro
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>>170536435
>600 wins for AA0 is below average yeah.
For real? Not that anon but that's nice, I got to AA0 yesterday with 407 wins.
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>>170536406
:3
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>>170536483
If roost didn't threaten death on the following turn, it would be used more often. That's why it's a meme card. No amount of debating it will change that fact. People don't use it because you usually die from playing it.
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>>170535975
>Relying on having Roost up for 2 turns
You are just dead at that point.
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>>170536297
>I did it with 584 wins

lmao dude I reached masters with 650 wins

get gud
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>>170536406

>caring about morde

Get with the times, gramp. If you fail to clear 3 zombies on turn 6, expect 12 damage to the dome.
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>>170536576
I got to AA0 with 400 wins too. It's average.

For Master, 700-800 is average.
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>>170535851
Whenever I see a vampy I think ez win.
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>>170536435
I know. I've seen someone brag that they reached masters with just 400 wins though. Not sure if that's possible.

I mean, if I maintain a 50% win rate with 100 gain and 70 lose, that means 30 gain every 2 matches or 15 every 1 match, 17000 points for AA0 to master is like, 1133 match wins? Geez, that doesn't sound right.
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>>170536198
Ginger is quite flexible.

You can play her with a single follower and make it an awkward situation to deal with. You can play her with multiple followers to reclaim the board after a board clear. You can play her with several followers while the enemy has a respectable board, forcing them to either trade or clear their own board with Themis / revelation / Bahamut. And, of course, you can play her free of risk if you know the enemy is out of board clears (which isn't that uncommon with guardian golem flooding.)
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What am I doing wrong? I can't seem to do well with this build, even on unranked.
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>>170536631
>tfw Luna is going to kill the game with these busted cards next expansion
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>>170536631
I like how every shadow lego become dust material after each expansion except for cerb.

Neph is totally trash now.
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>>170536631
Spooky.
Well, I'll just add a THIRD hungering horde to my deck.
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>>170536740
That's pretty close, honestly. I made the masters cut at 1221 using mostly dirt.
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>>170536576
I'm at 387 wins and 400 points from AA0
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>>170536740
There's a lot of bullshit numbers thrown around because people reroll and use netdecks. Comparing the stats of someone who gradually learned the game and ranked up to someone who already knew the game is going to show up massive disparities. I do find the "less than 500" claims to master a bit doubtful. Maybe possible, but fucking doubtful. Even the best players don't win every game, and winstreak bonuses stop at a certain point. 500 wins is exactly the amount of rating you need to go from Beginner to Master, not accounting for winstreaks on earlier ranks. Once you account for losses though, that should more than overweigh any early gains from winstreaks.
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>>170536665
>For Master, 700-800 is average.

Actually 600.

800~900 if you're mediocre.

900~ if you're completely shit at this game and might as well play something else
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>>170536740
>Not sure if that's possible.
It is possible. There was a gook that posted an image of him reaching master with ~450 wins. He played pre-nerf Roach though.
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>>170536867
No I'm pretty sure someone mathed it out and the average was at about 725-750.
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>>170536665
>>170536867
>tfw I have almost 900 wins and I'm only AA1
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Tfw got AA0 with 700 victories.
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>>170536867
more like 900~
You dont care about playing the best netdeck to rank up and instead plays wathever you want.
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>>170536867
kek, it all depends on the deck you play, playing tier 1 decks all the way doesn't make you better than someone playing a t2 deck to climb, idiot
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Post craft and deck themes

Bloodcraft and Shadowcraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoVmSV4yA8

Dshift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW6sEkTGbUc

Dragoncuckcraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GygEAcFFMVs

Albertcraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wh8FgsEtNQ
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>>170536867
Feeling insecure?
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>>170536631
>mfw I play Bloodhungry Matriarch
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>>170536867

But I like memeing it up in ranked from time to time.
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>>170537008
No you don't understand, getting to master smashing face with a deck I copied from the internet makes me far more skilled than someone who just gradually went there while playing the game, it's very important that I express the superiority of my aggro netdeck
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>>170537020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg
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>>170536867
>530 wins here, still A2

HEAR
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>>170537020
>blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWb72rXL49U

>haven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S48EktOqsbg
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>>170536984
Can someone please explain these meme images to me

What's with /jp/ and Chinese recently?
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>>170536982
700 wins is way too fucking much.

If you're not a shit player you can get there with 500 with no problem. 600 if you're more or less good.

Anything above 700 is because you take too many wrong decisions during matches.
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VAMPY YES!
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>>170536862
>>170536912
Yeah, I liked fucking around alot, especially before A0 because the chains and bonuses made losing alot felt like nothing at all since I was still ranking up even with the losses.

I played alot of control blood without any odins or bahamut, basically getting fucked as soon as a seraph drops and relying too much on mirrored bond. Like, I don't even remember where I got the list from but that's what I rolled with.
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>>170536984
>>170536991
>>170536993
>Got to A0 at 178 wins playing nothing but aggro blood.
>Have played almost nothing but Control Blood since then.
>ALMOST into AA0 with around 550 wins.
It would be a bit lower but I kept testing new decks in ranked like a fucking retard.
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>>170537148
1-4
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>>170536867
you sayin?
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>caring about your stats
there are actual problems to think about anon
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>>170537203
desu i never played unranked even my meme dealer was used in AA2
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>>170536782
Why did you remove Gobu yet kept Feena?
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>>170536782
I'd swap out the WotFs, and as a result maybe the wings too. I feel like this kind of forest deck doesn't get a nice fat hand often and thus WotF doesn't seem effective. Feena seems alright for fetching those valuable 2 drops, I've got wind god in mine to buff the small fairies. In fact I think my tempo forest deck hasn't changed at all from DE.
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Saving, saving, saving is fun.

tfw won't get another "opportunity" to DELET 5 for like a week
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>>170537319
Have you done all the story campaigns? They add up with those take two tickets
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>>170537271
Feena is just for the 0 cost, not for the tutor.

>>170537273
I'll try Wind Gods and, yeah, I found Wings and WotFs to be weak pretty often.
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I meet every kind of rune deck. From d-shift and daria to meme conjuring force lost to memes obviously.
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>>170537119
How many wins did it take you to get to Master?
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>hate take 2
>Can't just cash in the retire pack because too much lost value.

Help me
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>>170537382
Of course. I'm not so green as to pass up free benefits as a free player.
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>>170537581
I cashed the pack all the time when I started this game.

Who gives a fuck?
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>>170537520they should unerfer piercung rune this patch killed rune.

i miss daria
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>>170536867
>>170537119
>implying getting lucky means you're skilled
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>>170537678
Daria still has a better winrate than most decks, she's above 50%
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>>170537678
Shit no one ever said
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>>170534636
Please don't bully the maids.
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>>170537493
Oh I forgot to say I'd swap out the WotF for DoD for more reliable removal.
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>>170537728
>>170537745
Daria was fun and balanced everyone enjoyed 30% of rune
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>>170537678
I miss those free wins too.
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>>170537678
Agreed. I really loved 3 of my followers dying while also getting 4 damage to the face on turn 4.
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>>170537581
I suck at Take Two as well (more like for whatever reason my TakeTwo opponents always have a Bahamut/Olivia/Odin waiting for me), but I still manage to get 1 win on average every Take Two game. Try to get at least 1 win for the extra 25 gold.
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>>170537713
You won't get to masters in 500 wins by luck alone.

Sometimes playing one single card at the wrong turn fucks up your whole match.
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Other than revelation, what cards are worth being in vengance for?
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>>170537861
>You won't get to masters in 500 wins by luck alone.
No you get it by facerolling with Daria and Elena you cancerous vermin.
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>Have a hard time winning with Daria now
>Only other viable deck I had was storm haven
H-help. I want out of A-rank.
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>>170537902
bane drain devil, Laura
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wheres my packs reeeeeeee
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>>170537119
500 Needs you to have a >85% winrate. yep that seems average
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>>170537520
Is this aggro shadow? I get shit on when I use nep. I want to try aggro shadow but I only got 1 cerberus..
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>>170535851
I just finished Bahamut and I need to watch something else. Is Overlord good?
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>>170538004
How is that even possible unless you're literally one of the top players in the world? At AA you start facing masters regularly, so maintaining 85% winrate there is anything but average.
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>>170537902
Righteous Devil, Diabolic Drain, Laura if you swing that way
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>>170537785
Well, now it's 20% rune and 18% sword but the most played decks are still
1. rune
2. d-shift
3. Surprise lamp dragon
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>>170538013
It's good, but don't have have high expectations.
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>>170537581
Wait until the expansion to see if they upgrade the packs from standard. Otherwise fuck it, just cash it in if you don't enjoy it.
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>>170538086
Nah I just need some another wacky fantasy animu. Sounds good enough.
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>>170537785
Daria was only 19% of those 30% though.
It's still a lot yes, but don't post misinfo.
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>>170538013
It's solid, but has close to a cliffhanger ending with no more seasons likely to ever be produced. You can marathon it in a few hours too, not a big season. So... typical for anime, but just be aware of that.
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>>170537581
Take 2 is purely luck based.

Put it in the trash.
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>>170538006
>Is this aggro shadow?
Yep, i just fell in love with aggro shadow. Nep's too slow for me and i already spent my last vials anyway.
> but I only got 1 cerberus.
I think you can play with 2, not sure about one.
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>finish dailies in ~50m going 8-2
>decide to try a T2: 5-0, 250rupies
Guess I'm done for the day, rng will shirley have nothing but suffering for me If I continue.
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>>170537861
Oh course not, you get into masters in 500 wins by facerolling FOTM tier 1 early in a sets life cycle. Then shitpost about how master rank means anything in a system where you can never lose it.
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>>170538197
That wasn't misinfo, he specifically said rune, not daria.
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>>170538328
He also said "Daria was fun and balanced", in reply to people talking about Daria.
Context is important.
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my first take two is finally over

Vampy chan banzai!
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>>170538475
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>>170538429
Daria being played 19% WAS the majority of Rune play being 30% overall.
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>>170538240
>tfw they made a recap movie to milk it a final time
>tfw season 2 never ever
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>>170538475
Why would you buy a leader when you're so new you've never even played T2?
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Is Gamespress actually decent for finding decklists? I'm new and looking for budget lists so I can start getting into ranked and grinding out some of the rewards.

The links in the OP were neat, but they were all super meta 30k vial decks that I can't afford.
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>>170538269
I'm tired of watch streams where people throw cards in the board without even thinking what the opponent could possibly use next. Then it comes a removal that fucks his hand and could be prevented if he dropped something else instead. Over and over again.

Of course not playing meme decks with 40% winrate also helps.
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>>170538658
Anime is like the appendix: a vestigial organ designed for purposes other than what we use it for. All these decent shows that could have had so much potential they only produce 1 season of to market a LN/manga.
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>>170538690
They're okay as a general basis, but some of the filler cards they use are questionable
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I really fucking wish that runes shit follower couldn't be summoned for 0PP, 1PP is cheap enough.
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>>170538801
What do we use the Appendix for?
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>>170538690
Just be careful when they post tournament decks. What's good in a tournament won't be what's good in ladder. Look at the decks from masters players instead.
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>>170538671
because Vampy-chan is super cute!
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>>170538863
0pp flame destroyer is balanced :^)
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>>170538690
Gamepress is not the best. They nowadays mostly only post tournament decklists and their own decklists aren't very good. I'd recommend use GameAI instead (just translate it with Google Translate if you don't speak nipponese).
Post your golds and legendaries if you want tips on what should be cheaper for you to build. Aggro Blood is always the cheapest decent option.
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Ottohime will be top tier soon!
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>>170538973
I guess. Do you even know if you like bloodcraft? You did pretty well since blood is usually bad in T2.
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>>170538936
For a long time, doctors thought it had no use in the human body. In other animals, the appendix is used in digestion of plants. There's research now that it somehow helps the bacteria in our stomach, but it's still not essential. I know, shitty analogy, but what the heck.
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>>170538973
You got a relatively commonly used Silver (Pompous) and a staple Bronze (Rabbit Necro), I guess.

Better luck next time.
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>>170538690
I would rather ask the people in this general. Even they aren't as retarded as gamepress .
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>>170539080
right, how is this even a question
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>start take 2
>pick rune
>pick earth cards
>start playing
>deck is completely unplayable

Not sure what I was thinking. I don't even play rune, much less dirt.
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>>170539080
>2 memes
>2 good cards
You don't need help, you just want (You)s
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>>170539080
Right. Not even a contest.
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>>170539138
because neph is garbage
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>>170539080
Left
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>>170539083
two enemies disconnected, I don't really know yet. and I'm pretty sure it paired me against newbies like me because everyone had the 'newbie' and 'first farer' banner
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>>170539149
I've never played dirt rune, but I had a dirt rune take two the other day that was just right. Almost went 5-0, only loss was to Bahamut. No crazy legends or anything, but the value of Magisa + Spells, untargetable golem wards, and taboo professor was just nuts.
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>>170539080
>pluto
What why? Why use her over PwtN? Is she T2 only?
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>>170539197
Still better than Atomeme in Take Two.
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>>170539080
Pluto is solid, Atomeme is pretty much suicide.

Cerb is fantastic, Neph is trash but still something you can at least try to build around since this is the first pick.

Go right.
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>>170539080
Atomy is actually really good in take 2
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>>170539325
DELET
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>>170539273
Because it was made long before PwtN.
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>>170539325
MODSSSS
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I need a good laugh and to be cheered up.
Dragon legos reveal when?
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>>170539080
Shadow has such fantastic card art.
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>>170539273
Pluto doesn't have the restrictions of 4 or less defense
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>>170539325
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>missed lethal by one damage because of miss play
>lost 4 turns later
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>>170539443
It doesn't matter what they are, the shitstorm will happen for sure.
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>>170539501
Ah yes, of course I was missing something. Thank you.
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>>170538990
My problem isn't that they can summon one strong follower but the retarded ammount of oglers and Darias they shit out.
On top of Levi and the usual shit you have to face every single match.
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Need win

41403
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>>170539515
>Make a trade with a 1/1 into a 2/1 turn 3
>Off lethal by one on turn 6
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>>170539546
In one of two ways, really.

It's good: every other craft goes, "DRAGON BABS ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING AND LOOK WHAT THEY GOT"

It's bad: dragonbros produce piles of memes and new OC making fun of it through a haze of tears
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Is it just me or sword is getting absolutely bullshit with this new expansion?
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>>170539603
amount*
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>>170539616
Don't even meme about it man, this card is actually ridiculous.
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I want to commit a crime.
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>>170539683
It was always bullshit desu, Daria cancer just overshadowed it during most of the RoB meta
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Uhm, new daily bonus when? in 40 mins?
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>A network error has occurred.
Fuck! It keeps happening. I can barely get a game going.
It wasn't like this a couple of months ago.
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>>170539546
Who cares?

It's going to be shit anyways.
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>>170539683
Wait until we see the commons.
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>>170539603
The power of rune has always been in mana cheating
it's not any one card, it's the fact they can play removal cards while shitting out creatures, and you never know what they're going to do
you can't outplay them or work around what they're going to do, because there's no way of knowing what they can do with a given amount of mana, unlike every other craft
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>>170539683
>this new expansion
>implying
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>>170539683
This is my reaction but change sword with shadow and you would be correct
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>>170539767
What do you mean?
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>>170539767
with a fat horse?
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>>170539831
>because there's no way of knowing what they can do with a given amount of mana, unlike every other craft

>turn 5
>Rune shitter has 2 mana left
>plays Conjure Golem
>"Good, I can deal with this board"
>drops 2 Oglers and an Emmy right after
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>>170539767
i want her horsecock
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>win 4 matches as [class you don't have a good deck]
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>>170540000
When I was writing that I was thinking of a game earlier where I was still in the early game puttering along and the guy somehow dropped a flame destroyer that had been spellboosted 8 times when everything else on the board was still in the 2-4 health range, and our mana was still far away from allowing any board clears
along with playing 2 other creatures on the same turn, of course :^)
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>>170540000
Just Themis bro
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Anons, can the cardleak recorder change Henriette to Arriet?

unless that's the official name used in her card from EN.

Source: Granblue Fantasy and Rage of Bahamut.
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>>170538827
>>170538958
>>170539013
>>170539134
Thanks anons

Does GameAI have budget lists? I'd post collection of golds/legos but it would be several pages long, I'm not sure anyone wants to go through that

Sitting on around 3500 dust, bumped up to 7 or 8 if I liquefy some legendaries other anons said were bad
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>>170539683
>check game-ai evaluation of new cards
>all classes have at least one or two A, one S
>dragon has all B and one C

Have fun with swordverse I guess.

It's DE all over again.
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>>170540091
>win 4 matches as bloodcraft
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>>170539683
>>170540167
Sword looks like shit compared to shadow.
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>>170540109
He went first, of course :^)
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>>170540150
just crop the image together. People post their pulls all time newfriend
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>>170540175
But aggro bloodcraft is super cheap. You can make a deck that'll win you 50%+ of your matches in unranked using only bronzes and silvers.
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>>170540150
If you post it I'll go through it.

And don't vial anything until the expansion comes out. GameAI doesn't specifically post budget lists. You'll have to look at them yourself and use some good sense to determine what's a flexible spot and what's crucial to the deck.
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>>170540262
>wasting vials on garbo class
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Who else is going to buy ToG packs until they get 3x animated EGG?
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>>170540206
Both look strong.
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Has there ever been a cardgame where aggro is expensive but control is cheap?
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>>170540436
mtg
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>>170539786
5 AM Japan time
Or 3 more hours
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>shadowverse keeps feeding me new cards
>hearthstone is not gonna show even one before 17th
i feel cucked
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>>170540383
I'd animate Forte's eggs.
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>>170539443
Dragon will rise again and all those who called it the cuck class will regret it!
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>>170540436
RL card games, since high rarities don't necessarily mean high cost cards, like in this game.
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>>170539683
Not really, no. I don't see any straight upgrades.
On the other hand shadow gets to wreck sword even more than now and I don't see a way for sword to beat Aegis as long as hag stabilizes over 10 life.
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>plays quickblader
>ends turn
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>>170534028
Turn 1 egg
Turn 2 ramp
Turn 3 imprison dragon/aiela + egg
Turn 4 any 5 drop or fervor

Already at 7pp or 8pp with aiela at turn 5 for evolve if you are first.
>heal 7hp between all of that

It's like people do not know how to ramp, if you are playing aggro and don't burst for 10 damage or more you lose. Even satan ramp and wildfang OTK improve tremendously because of the egg alone.
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>>170539616
That's pretty sweet and very well themed. I like. Why is there no countdown though? *nervous laughter*
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Well I just had someone rage quit disconnect on me and this time I wasn't even mad at them for doing so.
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>>170540261
>>170540275
Thanks anons

This is what I have currently, I had to put it in an imgur album due to file size

http://imgur.com/a/RCop8
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Why do people still think Levi is broken? What made him the biggest cancer was the fact you could wipe out 3 followers in turn 4 if you went second and clear 4 of the board turn 5 if you went first. Now that piercing rune got nerfed, he can only take out 2 or 3. This isn't as broken as you would think considering we have wardrobe raider and dragon warrior who basically do the same thing except they don't have a turn 5 triple follower destruction play. I can actually stand playing against Daria in Masters because of the Piercing Rune nerf effectively making Levi weaker.
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grimnir is a bullshit card.
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>>170539891
>>170540206
>>170540413
>>170540647
h-haven will s-save u-us from t-the s-shadow c-cancer, r-right g-guys?
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I sure hope they tune down face damage at some point. The fact that all 20 face damage can reliably come from hand is pretty stupid.
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>>170540816
One Will of the Forest later.
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>>170540757
>being such a battered housedragon you look at EGG and think "Wow, what a great card!"
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>>170540853
>he can only take out 2 or 3
This is whats wrong with the entitled braindead Dariavermin.

>>170540853
>This isn't as broken as you would think considering we have wardrobe raider and dragon warrior
Who are 4PP and Levi is effectively 3 you retard.
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>when you know it's gonna be a good game
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>>170540907
Haven is also getting pretty good cards.

Who knows?
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>>170540907
It depends on how Aegis actually works.
If it's just immune to everything how does one ever beat removal+lifegain+aegis.deck?
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>>170540847
It's tough right now, the best thing I can think of is dragon because you have 2 salamanders and good things to ramp into like Olivia, Lucifer, Odin, Sahaquiel, and Genesis dragon.

But if you want a deck ASAP I can guarantee that the quickest deck you can build will be aggro blood.
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>>170540993
>Opponent didn't redraw.
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>>170540959
Who are you quoting?
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>>170540853
>a 2 drop evolve is only as good as a 4 drop evolve
>why are you complaining?
Just think about what you're saying for a moment.
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>>170541081
Just kill them while they're busy going face
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85818
No quitting.
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>gawain will make alexander and leonidas worth again

yay
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>>170541081
SKYKNIGHTS
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>>170541106
>Playing against Rune
>They don't redraw

Is there any greater horror?
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>>170540853
Think about the stupid shit you are saying here.
Levi is a 2PP card with his effect a 3PP card that for 3PP is a objectively better version of a 4PP card, Dragon Warrior.
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>>170541073
Sword can also be budget. You don't absolutely need Albert, and 2 fangblades, wind god and Tsubaki are nice closers too.
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>>170540091
>tfw have good deck for every class

LMAO
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>>170541058
>If it's just immune to everything how does one ever beat removal+lifegain+aegis.deck?
...By ignoring the aegis?
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>>170541073
Those are the decks that run triple Vania and bats?

Dragon seems neat, I liked Green ramp in MTG and druid in Hearthstone. I'm fine playing whatever while I learn the individual cards and grind rewards, aggro blood sounds fast
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>>170541058
Wars. Lots and lots of Wards.
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>>170540853
Levi can also go face with his 3 damage. The big thing that makes it so nuts is how efficient that is. You get to attack, Deal 3 damage to anything, Spellboost your hand once, and drop the total cost of Piercing rune by 2. That's a ton of effects for 3 points.

Compared to say dragon warrior. Who gets one extra health in exchange for not being able to go face with the burn damage and costs an entire 4 points.
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>>170541247
Ty!.
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>>170540847
Your pulls are all over the place, unfortunately. You have a lot of good cards, but it's spread among a lot of decks. You also pulled a bunch of shit legos.
I'd recommend making Fortress-less (so you can save 1600 vials, since, while great, the card isn't absolutely mandatory) Aggro Blood for now.
Look up lists and see what class/deck you are most interested on and buy packs based on which one has the most cards you are missing for that deck/class.
I'd also recommend vialing Pluto, Mithrill Golem and Erasmus, as they are just shit in general. Maybe keep Erasmus just in case the new Rune lego makes it viable (though I doubt it will happen).
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this shit is disgusting
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>Want to play Haven
>Only leaders are a hag and a fucking bird thing
When's Street Fighter, at least I can be a drill hair ojou-sama
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>>170541501
>Storms. Lots and lots of Storms.
ftfy
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>bought 1 of shadow premade weeks ago, cant remember why
>want to play aggro shadow today
>only have that 1 animated cerb but aggro needs 2-3

What do? Not having all 3 of the same art feels wrong but I don't wanna spend the money right now. I can make the normal cerb with vial but what if I buy the premade cerb later down the line? What do?

Also, anyone know of any good aggro shadow list?
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>>170540847
>http://imgur.com/a/RCop8
You're pretty close to building most roach builds. You have the cards for Ramp Dragon, but I don't recommend building that. It's too much of an investment and it's shit.
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>>170541378
>haven can efficiently heal for over 55 health points
>just deal 75 damage bro
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>>170541569
Kill yourself
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>>170541554
You'll brick by drawing that useless Sahabutt every game, don't worry.
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>>170541594
Stop living in the past, shadow player.
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>>170541579
>feels wrong
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>>170540847
Other than the already mentioned Aggro Blood, you can always try a budget Midrange Sword with Banner, Fanblade and Tsubaki, if you get bored of Blood or prefer not spending vials.
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No homo but Urias is kinda hot
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>>170541681
Don't tell me you put in a mix of animated and non animated when you need 3 of a card.
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>>170541484
Yeah you should just stay in a lower rank until you have a more complete deck. In ranks lower than A you can go on like 20+ winstreaks if you have a moderately good deck and know how to play card games. Aggro blood, aggro sword, and ramp dragon all have budget options that should be possible.
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>>170541554
...i dont get this
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>>170541837
A decent Take Two draft. Not sure why it upsets him though.
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>Go from 8 wins to 6 continuous losses because you I can't topdeck quickblader
>Redraw all three cards because they were t4 cards
>Get 3 Alberts in return
Stop the memes please.
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>>170541675
>the present deck represent the future deck without the critical card needed.

That's because tons of deck run bahamut retard. You don't even need elana for aegis to work. Bahamut can't kill aegis so its fucking nothing. If anything aegis deck will run 2 bahamuts. Since having two aegis means bahamut can't do shit against them or damage them.
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Alright, how do I make this card work? Should I just give up on it?
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>>170541935
>3 Alberts
That's an optimal starting hand for sword
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>>170542054
Wait until next expansion
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>>170542054
Do you have 3? If not just forget it.
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>>170542054
stock up on it because it'll be T1 next meta
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>Ginger
>fill the board with erasmus/destroyers, dim shift and end the turn
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>>170542054
razory claw, azazel, the wolf
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>>170542054
How is dropping it on turn 7 for 5 damage to face, tun 8 for 6, turn 9 for 10, turn 10 for 11 not working?
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Take 2 is fun once in a blue moon.
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>>170541942
Half the decks listed there don't even run Bahamut.
/svg/ (Shadowcraft players central) will never admit Elana is completely overrated and it only was a problem when attached to a much better deck (seraph).
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This game needs a tavern brawl
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>>170542054
By running only 2 of them and seeing them as the conditional wincon it is instead of trying to force it every game.
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>>170542054
Save up until turn 8 and use her along with dire bond.

That's it.
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>>170541809
Not him, but of course I do. While the fact that it visually lenghtens the decklist a little bit is slightly bothersome, I don't have any >muh OCD that would prevent me from doing so.
In fact, if anything, seeing them side by side is a motivation to maybe complete the playset someday.
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>>170542182
Can they even dshift since ginger is 9
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>>170541935
Could be worse. You could be playing daria and draw 3 of them in your starting hand. Least sword has high odds of getting a decent minion within 2 turns.
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Why do they bother printing followers any more, they clearly want the game to be about who draws the most damage from hand
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>tfw you had lethal
KILL ME NOW FAMILY
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>>170542182
D-shift should be able to win pretty easily before they hit 9pp
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>>170542182
If you're going to delay your wincon by two turns just to meme it up, you may as well be playing Flame and Glass. They can at least pretend to do something in the early game.
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>>170542276
>triple 0 cost D Shift
Get with the times my man
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>dark jeanne
>deals 2 damage to all followers then +2/+0 to all followers

For what purpose?
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>>170542182
d-shitters goes off at turn 7. 8 if they're late.
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>>170542386
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
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>>170542386
They couldn't just buff regular Jeanne
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>>170542386
2 damage is nothing in an elana deck
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>>170542473
This is worse than regular Jeanne.
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>>170542218
It'd be nice to have another format to complete dailies in. Especially one where memes rule supreme.

Another free pack each week would be nice too.
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>>170542065
>>170542289
The thing that fucks me over is that this always happens when I play against sword netdeckers.
As long as the opponent isn't completely retarded or unlucky as shit, it's almost impossible to catch up to 2 lost turns.
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>>170542386
You can use her instead of general in storm and it will grant all your followers 2 damage for the final push.

Or not because it will probably kill the bird and it won't make up for the damage loss.
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>>170540979
>>170541189
>>170541345
considering the deck though and the options it has, how is this card no appropriate and fair? Instead insulting someone think about the craft without the card. It's like Breath of the Salamander for Dragon. They come off as broken, but the craft needs it to survive/win games.

The fact that all the top decks are aggro decks also needs to be considered. Levi may be a 2pp, but he's only worth something on your first evo turn. Similar to Floral Fencer, his use doesn't go beyond that most of the time because games just end too quickly. So even if he has a low cost, he doesn't get played until that evo turn like the rest of the turn 4 evo followers.

Also, I play Shadow, Blood, and Sword. Noticing the effects of the Piercing rune nerf was a given and I feel as though Levi may piss me off, but he's now justified. His first drop doesn't change the game drastically different from a regular turn 4 evo drop.
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>>170542182
Dshift can already lethal from this position, Ginger would just slow the deck down
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>>170542386
...she buffs the enemy followers too? what the fuck.
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>>170542209
>turn 10 for 11 damage

How?
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>>170541548
Aggro blood got a lot of recommendations, so I'll probably give that a try and show a build here later to see if I'm really off the mark, never been great at deckbuilding
>>170541592
Roach looked neat, seemed short on ancient elves and a Tia. Maybe I can put together a ramp dragon deck to learn the class?
>>170541714
Seems neat, I have to check how many vials I'm looking at for the others, I'm not really sure how much most of them cost other than 'too many'
>>170541829
Your unranked matches use the same MMR as your ranked ladder, right? Is that why I'd be better of grinding unranked? A lot of the rewards seemed tied to ranked, so I wasn't sure

Thanks for all of the help, anons
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>>170542386
Honestly about the only use I see for this is if you already have a full board or at least 3 minions. That along with an evolve Could pretty easily get an extra 8-10 damage if the units can survive the self harm.
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>>170542516
I dunno, I think it's pretty good. Does the 2 damage of lion without needing evolve and it'll boost your followers for lethal or near-lethal. Sure it sucks she kills the little bird, but that's why you'd just run one or maybe two of her in a storm deck.
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>>170542624
bm+claw+bond?

2+3+6.
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>>170542558
>Levi may be a 2pp, but he's only worth something on your first evo turn.
Haha, in what world? In fact, Daria typically used him over and over to do face damage with crimson sorcery, and he was one of the reasons Daria could beat people they should have otherwise lost to, or after massive board clears. Don't need creatures if you can just keep pulling more sorceries out of your ass.
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>>170542692
You can evolve Holy Falcon to have it survive the ping, though.

I think a lot of people overlook that fact.
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>>170542643
Yeah the MMR is the same. After you get your monthly sleeves you can stay out of ranked unless you get missions for it. And all of the ranked rewards are stacked at the low end anyway, so unless you want to win 50 games to get a single pack it's not worth it. Good luck on the deckbuilding. Just play a lot of arena to learn deckbuilding and get packs.
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>>170542558
>They come off as broken, but the craft needs it to survive/win games.
Rune doesn't need Levi to survive, the only one that comes even close to that is Dirtrune and there its a crutch, not a solution to its fundamental problem.

>>170542558
>. Levi may be a 2pp, but he's only worth something on your first evo turn.
But thats completly wrong. He's a solid drop on T2 if you got 2 of him in your starting hand. He's a solid drop later in the game for causing 4 damage to a powerful evolved minion that just traded into you. Because his 3damage 1PP card is already immensily powerful on its own. Demonic Strike is 4PP for literally the same effect. Think about that for a second, Levi is a 4/4 body that gives you a Demonic Strike for 3PP cheaper.
That is broken and absurd no matter what craft its in.
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am I inside the big boys club yet
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>see that some player needs one match to reach masters
>concede for him
Be nice to other players please.
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>>170542734
Pretty much. Nothing is as painful as dealing with a Levi into Levi into Levi.

That's 9 face damage right there and a massive drop in price for a card that deals 2 face damage. You pretty much always want to evolve that old man due to just how efficient he can clear both the board and deal damage to face.
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>>170542916
>see player at 50k rating
>go as tryhard as possible
:^)
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>>170542890
>he bought the vania instead of 5 packs

Lmao
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>>170542916
>>170542968
This doesn't really matter much since you just restart the trial from the beginning.
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>>170542935
The joke I kept hearing when Daria was in its prime among Rune players was: "Just draw 3 Levis, if you do you will win no matter what."
It was true.
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>>170542968
This. I also rope them every turn just for the extra BM.
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>>170543018
I meant it like he was still 49900.
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>>170543015
I did that too and now look where I am!
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>>170542558
2x 4/4 follower
2x 3dmg to the face
2x 2dmg to the face and 2x 2dmg to follower
2x 1 dmg angle snipe

10-11 damage to the face by turn 5/6 with 5 spellboost plus the other spell boost from the earlier turns. After all that you're probably facing a full board of a 5/5, a bunch of 3/4 and a couple 2/2 with storm.

inb4 just themis it bro
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>>170542558
Levi is good in later turns too.
I assume what you 'actually' mean is to consider the card in its meta enviroment. Which would be a fair point. levi was not as problematic in DE and Standard (though already absurdly broken) because D-Shift doesn't make as much degenerate use of him as Daria can.
But the thing is, Daria exists, they made Daria, you can't ignore the fact that a card makes a archetype that is already ridiculously overpowered even worse just because its 'only' ridiculously good in other archetypes.
Levi needs a nerf. Or Daria as a Archetype needs one. Of course neither will happen because its their cashgrab archetype to shill to newcomers.
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>>170543087
I want to do lewd things to this butt
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>>170542851
And what else are you going to buff? The tigers that just popped and will die next turn because they will only have 2 health? You can only evolve one follower per turn.
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>>170542386
You could use with storm haven... oh wait it kills your own board. And buffs the opponent board.

So she's like a shit version of lion spirit.
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>>170542734
But that's not an option anymore. The piercing rune nerf means on turn 4 only the Levi can be dropped and the Crimson Sorcery or a Piercing rune can be used that turn. The fact all the best decks pressure so hard since they're basically all aggro decks prevents Levi from actually clearing your whole board at all.

>>170542876
Levi being a 2/2 2pp drop isn't anything special on turn 2, his unique usefulness doesn't come until you get evols. He's just like any other 2/2 2pp until then. that drop won't save you from the pressure of aggro decks and Midrange Sword. NepDeck and Control Blood are favorites of mine too and I feel as though even against Late game decks, Levi isn't as big of a problem as before at all.
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>>170542916
>He's playing Forest/Rune/Sword
Nah, I'll rope him while making optimal plays til he gives up whenever he doubts that he's gonna win. It's another matter entirely if he's playing the other 4 classes or dirt.
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Whats the release date for tempest?
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If you see a guy named Plz Concede in Unranked, please concede. I really need those Granblue sleeves and I'm so close to getting them all, only two and a half crafts left, and almost 2 hours to go.
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>>170543110
>inb4 just themis it bro

Honestly this is about all you can do in those situations. Though it hilarious when Daria players don't pay any attention to your points and wind up laying their entire hand on the board right before a themis.
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>>170543283
The nerf doesn't affect his overall faceburn potential against control decks, it only affects crimson + piercing on the same turn shenanigans. Which wasn't what we were addressing.
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>dagon lego reveal
>even more discard shit

Who's ready?
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>>170543346
27th-29th
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>>170543124
I believe the Piercing Rune nerf was sufficient enough desu.

>>170543110
>being able to get out 2 Levis in this meta
>being able not need your crimson sorceries to try and clear the enemy board
>being able to attack face with an evolved Levi
This example is shit.
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>>170543257
Who cares? If Dark Jeanne is able to completely clear the opponent's board in the first place, she's already doing her job as a 5/5 Themis.

The buff potential is just icing.
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euthanize these fuckers already cygame
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>>170543283
>Levi being a 2/2 2pp drop isn't anything special on turn 2,
Are you some sort of illiterate? "Solid" means exactly its not anything special. But its still 'good' you don't lose anything from dropping him there.

>>170543283
>Levi isn't as big of a problem as before at all.
No shit he isn't a big problem without evolve, what is even your fucking point?
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>>170542386
Enjoy that wasted Legendary space
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>>170543391
You're setting your sights too high. I'm betting on some brand new meme shit that's even garbage tier than even discard. Could be a useless megalorca fishy type leggo that won't be usable whatsoever.
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2 hours till free packs.
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>>170543283
All this really means is that they'll bring out Levi crimson sorcery. Then next round Piercing rune into levi into Crimson sorcery. It slows that combo down but only slightly. You are still pretty likely going to lose over 25 percent of your health to 2 points worth of burns spells.
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>>170543568
FREE PACKS?
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>>170543391
Eggsongflute

3 pp amulet

If you have overflow active turn all cards that cost 3 pp or less into dragon eggs
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>>170543478
>Who cares?
Storm Haven cares. There is a reason why the vast majority of Storm Haven builds don't even play Themis: they can't afford losing their board to clear their opponent's.
Also, 2pp AoE is not that strong, Otohime is dead.
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>>170543658
>tfw when someone managed to come up with something legitimately worse than flute
Bravo, anon, I'm actually impressed
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>>170543516
>He doesn't believe in megalorcas
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27293

need a concede senpaitachi
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>>170543454
The fuck are you talking about? There is nothing stopping you from dropping levi on turn 4 to evo and then dropping him again on turn 5 to evo. Or turn 5 then turn 6 if you go first. Surely you're not thinking about dropping both of him on turn 4 to evo 1 and then hoping for the 2nd one to survive? Are you retarded? Cause if you're the guy >>170543493 is replying to, your talk about dropping levi on turn no evo turn is fucking retarded too.
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>>170543376
But I'm not talking about his potential though. I'm taking actual cases one needs to worry about. Right now, a Levi isn't the thing to worry about. His potential burn is mitigated by the fact that those possible face burn options will need to be used to stop enemy followers.

>>170543493
>illiterate
You're just trying to trigger yourself at this point. I typed exactly what I meant and it stands. Levi being a 2 drop on T2 doesn't mean much since there are plenty 2pp 2/2 drops.

>>170543613
But games would be basically over by that time. While Control decks nowadays can easily survive that.
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>>170543658
not enough eggs. make it 5pp or less
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>>170543827
I like the direction you're going, but why not 10pp or less? The enemy will quake in terror as they realize they can't possibly outdamage an endless board of eggs.
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>>170543818
>Levi being a 2 drop on T2 doesn't mean much since there are plenty 2pp 2/2 drops.
It means he doesn't brick your hand if you draw 2 or more in your starting hand. That actually does make a difference.
And its kinda sad how you try to distract from the fact that you claimed he is ONLY good on the first evo turn, when he is still just as amazing on later evo turns.
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Why do people sit there and think forever when faced with lethal against them on the board?
Then they always just play random shit before they finally concede.
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If only all these 1pp cards were eggs I were holding...

Nothing like cracking some eggs open against my bricks.
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>>170543516
>Could be a useless megalorca fishy type leggo that won't be usable whatsoever.
Considering that they got a 3pp card that summons a Megalorca, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to make a new Dragon archetype focused around it. That being said, this board and the memes will just go completely insane if it's a Megalorca lego. Expect images of Rowen-faced orcas eating eggs everywhere.
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>>170543778
still open ;_;
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Just remembered why I haven't played aggro shadow in months.
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>>170543780
What you're typing and typed implies the only thing the rune player has in hand are levis and piercing runes spellboosting nothing and running out of steam unless they have a Daria which is a big luck factor on how dangerous a double Levi play is

>>170543921
there's nothing to distract, it's just a fact that his value should be based around the meta right now which doesn't allow long games and them being ended by turn 5 without any real chance of a levi being able to save the game.
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>>170543994
>Caviar Dragoncraft
I want to make this an official name
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>>170543780
>There is nothing stopping you from dropping levi on turn 4 to evo and then dropping him again on turn 5 to evo.
If you do this you're potentially screwing yourself out of draws. Face damage is great, but if you're not spellboosting the right cards, you're not accomplishing anything towards your win condition.

The situation you're describing happens once every 10 games at best when you're playing rune. Facing up against that play might feel frustrating for you, but drawing the nut hand is a rarity.
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>>170543945
>bought the premade blood 3x
>vialed all my normal vampy queen
>never see normal vampy queen again
>everytime i see this pic, i go "who is this? veigh? why is he dressed like a whore?"
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>>170544053
>>170543778
thanks vampy-chan
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Please concede in Unranked. As many times as possible. Granblue sleeves packs going away ;_;
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>>170543994
>this board
*this general, fuck
I doubt the entirety of /vg/ would come along to meme about Rowen, though I really want it to happen
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>>170543827
>tfw only have forte and genesis dragon in deck above 5pp
>use this lego for eggs
>drop 4 and use forte
>heal 8 damage and draw 4
>do it again and again

Literally unstoppable storm damage cycling.
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>>170544113
>that his value should be based around the meta right now
Which is that he allows Daria to remove Wards and face burn you to death at the same time in a meta where no deck bar Haven can heal and set up wards this efficient at the same time.

>>170544113
>which doesn't allow long games and them being ended by turn 5 without any real chance of a levi being able to save the game
Games regularly go to Turn 6-6 which is ample time to play more than one Levi and evolve him, you're full of shit.
The reason why games have become so fast is BECAUSE of Daria inevitably killing you in the long run thanks to cards like Levi that allow for extremly efficient removal, faceburn, redraw and minion spam at the same time.
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>>170536867
I am A2 with750 matches, i am the average
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>>170543568
cygames literally showering us in packs, god bless them
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>>170544378
Are you dumb though? The reason Daria comes out so fast isn't because of Levis, it's because of Clarkes and Craigs allowing Turn 4 Darias. Levi isn't what's causing that and getting off 2 Levis isn't even ample enough to stop the onslaught better decks dish out right now. Game don't go past turn 6 though, unless the enemy is playing D-Shift or a Control deck.
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>>170544075
It's like the fucking banishcaust all over again.
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absolute madman
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>>170543568
how many
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>>170543568
>>170543638
>>170544584
>5 packs
>lets see what we get
>get 8 silvers and all bronze

Yeah....so amazing
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>>170544589
>The reason Daria comes out so fast isn't because of Levis
And literally no one said it is, stop trying to deflect you shitter.
Levi adds to the problem of Daria with his incredible efficiency.

Levi is whats causing Dartias ability to just faceburn you to death no matter how many wards you got in ADDITION to the field swarm. This gives Daria longterm efficiency she otherwise wouldn't have.
But I can't expect the kind of braindead vermit that plays Daria to expect how the game works.
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Fuck me, I just got bamboozled by Eidolon + Guardian Sun in arena, I had no idea I could just go face.
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how to git gud in taek 2?
any anon bro is willing to coach me?
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>>170544589
>itt. the average Daria player
I guess thats the kind of person you attract by shilling for faceroll archetypes on social networks.
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>>170544879
Get lucky enough to be offered good draft picks, the end
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>>170544728
>>170544736
4+1+1+1+1
8 pax for 8 million downloads
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>>170544786
And literally no one said it is, stop trying to deflect you shitter.
>"The reason why games have become so fast is BECAUSE of Daria inevitably killing you in the long run thanks to cards like Levi that allow for extremly efficient removal, faceburn, redraw and minion spam at the same time"
You're actually just a dickhead that wants to argue rather than understand. You can't even spam a field with followers in the case you're describing because of the fact you would need to have a literally full hand to pull off what you're describing which isn't possible unless you're literally about to lose next turn which means it doesn't matter what yo ucan boost, the games over for you. You're actually a faggot tbqfh.
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>shadow is getting a form of Endless Ranks of the Dead
Aw shit son that's my favorite MtG card
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>>170545024
1 castle in the sky and all bronze

JUST
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>>170544589
A turn 4 levi evo with the fire ball used right away and another 1pp spell used right away is 4+3 damage and 2 spell boost. A similar turn 4 evo burn like dragon warrior is 4+3 and nothing else.

A turn 5 levi evo with the fire ball and piercing is 4+3+2+2 damage with 2 spell boost. A dragon warrior is what, a 4+3 damage and a 2 dmg to follower or a 1/2 follower drop?

The value he provides is miles ahead of most 4-5 pp. The fucking killer is the spell boost he still gives despite being similar to other +1/+1 evos.
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>lose t2 because they play Satan and draw both of the Damnations before anything else
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>>170544927
I play Sword, Blood, and Shadow.

>>170545095
Piercing Rune is a 2 cost now after evol boost. You can't piercing rune and crimson sorcery same turn, turn 4 anymore.
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>>170545069
Very slow endless ranks.
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>>170545050
Levi crashes into your minion into Crimson Sorcery into Daria into any number of minions. There. Faceburn, Draw, Minion and Removal at the same time.
Now go back to sniffing glue Dariashitter and stop shitposting.
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>>170545083
at least you get memes and vials
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best girls
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Maids.
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>>170545171
>A turn 5 levi evo with the fire ball and piercing is 4+3+2+2 damage with 2 spell boost
>A turn 5
Anon read the post before sucking Levi's dick.
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>>170543568
B-but why?
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>>170545212
Hey jackass understand that the game just ended because you literally didn't play anything meaningful besides a kaleidoscope glow on a quickblader because you pulled Levi instead of Clarke and Craig. Maybe you hsould stop being shit at the game huh? Maybe actually understand what makes things good?
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>>170545171
Did you even read my post?

>turn 4 levi with fireball + ONE pp spell

I never said anything about piercing rune. I'm saying you went from like 2 damage + 2 spell boost per turn to 7 damage with 2 spell boost minimum. That's AFTER the nerf. Pre nerf you basically get 4+3+2+2 damage and 2 spell boost at turn 4. That was horse shit but this is still bull shit.
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>>170545267
>4+3+2+2
Learn to count PP please.
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>>170544879
Pray to the random number gods and play sword. Then cry when you look at your curve and see you have more 5 drops and 3 drops by far then 1-2 drops and some asshole Is about to Bahamut you.
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>>170545217
Actual meidocraft when
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>>170545404
>because you literally didn't play anything meaningful besides a kaleidoscope glow on a quickblader because you pulled Levi instead of Clarke and Craig
Are you fucking retarded? What do you think you did with your other 6 cartds until turn 4 for evo,you realise you can't actually evolve until Turn 4 yes and what I described used literally just two cards. Can you not count? How much is 8 - 2 ? Is that too much for you?
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>>170545267
Anon, you can't double piercing rune and crimson sorcery turn 5 anymore.

>>170545424
You typed 4+3+2 turn 4, which implies piercing rune and Crimson sorcery. How else would you deal that much face turn 4?
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>>170544879
pick sword, take good curve minions, value trade, get at least 4 wins

that's how all my take twos went, sword is a joke
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>>170542386
>it's not enough to make jeanne unplayable, they also have to make her alter unplayable aswell
Why do they hate her so much?
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>>170545238
>tfw not receiving their warmest smiles
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>>170543568
Here's hoping I pull that third animated waifu.
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H-Help?
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>>170545217
>implying she doesn't get raped daily by her goshujin-sama and his friends, while doing wall marks on her thighs each time they cum inside her.
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>>170545404
>literally didn't play anything meaningful
You mean besides all the stuff you played until then? Because its a 2 card combo and all and since its Daria you are basically made out of card draw.
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>havan is getting a 3PP 3/4

Is this a mistake in the doc?
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>>170545632
Might wanna google the definition of the word "implying", ESL-kun
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>>170545558
>Are you fucking retarded?
No, but I know you are. You honestly have lost any grasp on what is being typed. Go back to thinking Daria is broken. As for me, I'll be comfortable knowing Levi won't be getting nerfed ever because he's balanced and any hgher skilled player sees that. Good luck being shit and salty.
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>>170545534
>lesbo maid leader
>almost all cards that see play are dude knights and a few girl knights

give me the maids
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>>170545708
>He didn't read the card details
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>>170545708
Read the card.
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>>170545578
This requires you get good curve minions. Instead about 80 percent of the time you'll get nothing but 4 cost minions or above. With the rare thief if you are lucky.

The best drop you'll get is castle in the sky. Everyone else will get 3 Alberts somehow and it will be an utter blow out.
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>>170545572
WHERE. DID. I . SAY. 4+3+2 TURN 4?!

I SAID 4+3 AND 2 SPELL BOOST
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>>170545708
It's free vials.
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>>170545726
ESL?
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>>170545708
Your birth was a mistake
Read the actual card effect
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>>170545746
>hur dur I can't reply to his point because I have no arguments better pretend I'm being haughty
Of course it won't get nerfed, it was literally made to inflate the player numbers with imbeciles like you
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>>170545217
I wish Moonmoon and Luxhorn were better

Just had a fun little game.
>Have a 6/4 tiger, 2/2 angel of the word, and a Temple Defender
>Roach nigger blows a full-hand Will of the Forest
>All but one shot is soaked by the Defender
>Concedes
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>>170545616
the hell is her weapon anyway
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>>170545616
Make Aggro Haven Great Again
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>>170545217
>first new meido card in ages
>its shit
Why can't it be good. I just want a meido deck.
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>>170545862
No, it's to keep shitters like you at A0

>>170545793
My bad, I meant, you can't do a Turn 5 4+3+2+2 anymore because of the Piercing Rune nerf
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>>170545616
J U S T
U
S
T
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Which existing cards would you like to see be made into purchasable leaders?
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>Death's breath 2 turns in a row
fuck you
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>>170545404
Since when does the game start you with only 1 card? The game starts you with 3+1 on turn 1 if you start first. By turn 5 you have 8 cards.

If you start 2nd you start with 3+2 and also end up with 8 cards on turn 4.

With the insane draw more rune gets, it's not that hard to get a daria, 2 spell boost follower, a levi and a PR. That's only 5 fucking cards.

You fucking daria players act like getting these within 4-5 turns is like winning a lottery. I have a fucking daria deck too and I've seen how true "easily bricking" is.

It's fucking bullshit.
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>>170546071
>No, it's to keep shitters like you at A0
Sorry, i've been Masters since before Daria came out.
I didn't need a faceroll deck designed to shill to normies and hearthstone players.
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>>170545948
Storm Haven is not aggro and it is not bad either.
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>>170546149
Lucifer
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>>170546172
So how do I clear that shit if I don't play blood or haven
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>have 1 seraph
>spent all my vials on legos/golds to finish other decks
>only have 1 seraph in my haven deck
>going to spend last 100 coins on a standard deck
>think what if i get a seraph
>buy darkness because what if
>ACTUALLY GET A FUCKING SERAPH

Am i dreaming? Is this real life?
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>>170546149
Bloody Mary, Cynthia, Albert
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>>170545708
>3PP do nothing
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>>170546071
Uh yes you can?

Evi is 2.
Fireball is 1.
PR is 2.

That's fucking 5 pp. 2 fucking spell boost. 4 + 3 + 2+ 2. Seriously dude?

If you're talking about pre nerf turn 5 levi + fb + pr + pr. That's even more disgusting. 4 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2.
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>>170546207
>Daria players
I don't play Daria and it's an exaggeration of Rune not being able to actually stop the pressure from Aggro decks that populate the game unless they actually get of the turn 4-5 Daria.

>>170546220
Don't worry, I'll just faceroll you with Shadow because you're not even competent enough to deal with that. A0 shitter
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Levi is a normal 2/2 2 drop that if you evolve it gives you some face damage and maybe spellboosts your wincon cards if you happen to have drawn them.

Maid Leader is a weak 2 drop that guarantees you draw your turn 9 wincon.

Both of these cards are balanced. Stop crying about it.
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>>170546149
Rowen in dragon form.
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Holy fucking shit
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>>170546326
That actually happened to me as well but with Albert. It was pretty nice so I know how you feel.
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>>170545450
piercing does 2 on Follower and 2 on face
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>Rowen emote spams because he got double altered fate dragonewt
>Kills himself through decking out
What did he mean by this?
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>>170545404
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>>170546429
Oh wait you're not just talking about face damage you're talking about damage done to the minion too. Now I see where that extra 2 damage comes from.
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>>170546443
>I don't play Daria
Why do you keep arguing about how Daria plays if you literally don't even know how to play Daria?
You shouldn't argue about the viability of decks you don''t even know to play.
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>>170546429
>counting evolve when you already count it at 4

Retard
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>>170546463
I was just thinking that the other day. His black dragon avatar is pretty cool.
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>>170545404
The turns before will consist of constantly spamming clarke and crag. Then afterwards Levi will wipe the board and spell boast Daria who will fill the board into a second levi who will wipe the board a second time and likely spell boost everything again. Then on turn 5 you'll lose because it's impossible to have any board presence when you are constantly getting hit with 2/3+ minions and getting your board cleared constantly by a effective 7 attack 2 Mana minion.
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>>170546486
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>>170546326
You have to just believ bro, same thing happened when I need a 3rd cerb
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>>170546573
>face damage when you yourself includes the 4

>>170546604
pr is 2 damage to face and 2 damage to follower you moron.
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>mfw reading Henrietta
Let's just turn everyone into Alberts
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>>170546597
>Since you don't play the deck, you don't know how it works.
How fucking naive can you be? You don't need to play a deck to know how it works. The game's not complicated at all. I don't play Ramp Dragon, but I do know how to play on curve with it and the best decisions to make during certain situations. Also, I've played plenty of Daria before the piercing rune nerf because it was on the verge of Tier 0 status. After the piercing rune nerf, I dropped it complaetely.
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>>170545708
It's shit
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>>170546463
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>>170546820
>You don't need to play a deck to know how it works
Yes you do. If you haven't played a deck, you have no idea how it really works.
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>>170546497
So spooky but so bootifull

Ive had to craft all my alberts
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>>170546820
>literally a daria shitter
>I only played it when it was blatantly broken
>now that it's nerfed I won't touch it
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>>170546820
>I-I d-don't even play Daria!
>O-Oh I actually totally played Daria but only when it was at its most cancerous and facerolling and then I dropped it because /svg/ says its bad despite not actually having changed meaningfully
Yeah, typical Daria player.
Not only playing cancerous garbage but then actually being so bad at it you don't even realise what made it good and how changes affect it.
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>>170546917
Okay, you're actually an idiot. I bet you also think you need to be a star to understand how the sun works.

>>170546997
Like how you're a baby despite being mid 20s
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How often do you feel like your plays and decisions impacted the outcome of the game rather than you simply drew answers that were played without needing to think about it, and/or your opponent drew like shit or just drew the answers he needed?

I feel at least half of my games, maybe more, come down to little more than opening hands and draws.
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>>170547048
There's a big difference between past and present tense. You're point is invalid. Also, I've already stated what made it strong and what keeps it being strong.
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>>170547105
Literally this. You can't make the best plays if you can't draw the right answers. Even if you make a good play with the best possible card you have at that time, it won't be enough if the opponent has a better answer to your play that swings the tempo in his favor.
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>>170547105
Pretty much.
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>>170547105
That's why I like control. There's far more decision points. Aggro is just a deterministic "did I draw perfect curve?" path every time.
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>tfw your Ultimate Carrot gets banished.
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>>170547105
>How often do you feel like your plays and decisions impacted the outcome of the game rather than you simply drew answers that were played without needing to think about it, and/or your opponent drew like shit or just drew the answers he needed?
it depends on the deck. Surprisingly I feel that AggroBlood is the one where I most often find myself looking back and realising what plays could have been done different to win or win earlier, probably because it has so many options each turn compared to other decks.

But in any case, I think with most decks right now its easily 70% if not more just what cards you got and playing them on curve.
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Anyone has a Dark General blood deck?
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>>170547105
The majority of the value of your own skill or experience comes into play at deckbuilding, the game itself is mostly just the result of you having made good or bad deckbuilding decisions.
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>>170547105
This is why I play Control Blood. Decision making plays a much larger impact than most other decks I've tried.
Some games do still come down to luck, but that's the nature of a card game.
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>>170547280
aggroblood mirror really feels like decisions matter a lot, it's one of the most skill intensive matchups and I'm a control fag
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Less than 1 hour for opening packs with /svg/
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>>170547105
That's why I hate playing aggro. Get even one useless card at the time and you're done.
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>>170547105
Nearly every match you lose in shadowverse is due to bad hand/bad draws.
Most games come down to who gets the lucky draw, Not something I experienced alot playing MtG and YGOpro.
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>>170546719
No one cares about the damage done to the follower. Only face damage matters to rune and expecting levi to hit face next turn is retard. Everyone kills levi the turn after.
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>>170546935
>1 themis
How do you survive against Daria?
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>>170547105
when i lose i do sometimes find that could've done something differently to get a different outcome.
like for example not playing a card even when i could and stuff like that.
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>>170547561
Its getting there.
and currently, I dont
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>>170547531
>Not something I experienced alot playing YGOpro
???
The vast majority of YGO decks are absolute auto-pilot shit, especially now with Zoodiacs being tier 0.
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>>170547613
It's difficult to look at decisions made during a game because you have knowledge you didn't have before.
What may be the best decision given information you have can turn out to be pretty awful.

>>170547531
I wouldn't say nearly. Like I've had a couple matches today where I baited out or successfully played around certain cards. Just had a Haven mirror where I was able to bait out his removal by playing threatening but otherwise insignificant cards I knew he'd want to remove asap - like unevolved priests.
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>>170547742
I havent played YGOpro for years not since before cyber dragons, its just a convoluted mess now.
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>>170547105
Card games doesn't require skill. Nearly all of the games you win or lose is due to matchups, bad draws or good draws. Basically it's all about your deck so >>170547395 this anon is right.
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>>170547583
Maybe, shadow needs better decks anyways.
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>>170547583
Way too expensive to really do anything before you die desu.
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>>170547557
What? The levi evo damage and the piercing rune damage clears the board, helping you set up the daria full board that the opponent can't fucking answer to if he has no followers at the start of his turn. If the player didn't have to trade with levi or take damage and gets to keep his followers, then he can summon to full board and trade everything.

It fucking matters.
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>>170547105
All of my games agaist aggro come down to wether they have DoD against my goblinmount or not
If they don't I win, if they do I lose
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>>170547105
>How often do you feel like your plays and decisions impacted the outcome of the game
Most games.

Most of the games I lose are when I'm 1 damage of lethal because I used MM or AS on a follower rather than face, or I'm 1 mana off a dshift combo because earlier I didn't cast an inefficient spell when really that 1 extra spellboost would have won me the game.
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>>170547105
All fast games have opening hand greatly influence chances
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>>170547931
They have rush lol
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>>170548216
kys tumor
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>>170547105
>Recent T2 run where I went 4-1
>Opted to spend evo on Swordsman for a big tempo swing while clearing dragonrider and megalorca and pushing damage instead of Angelic barrage and using my board to clean up
>Lost because didn't have an answer to Bahamut
I took a pointless risk
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>>170547105
I draw the right cards to make the right plays to win. Only time I lose is when opponent draws even more answers than me.
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>tfw turn the enemy's turn 3 tempest kills 5 followers
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>opponent makes a good play
>try to compliment them
>my jittery hands spazz out and accidentally spam click the sorry and hello emotes as if I were BMing
If you're here I'm sorry
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>>170548216
dshift one of the last thinking man's deck
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How does Aurelia, Artilery Support work? Do you do 2 damage or does the buff apply first?
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>>170548492
I wished there were better emotes for GG and gratulating someone. The ones we got seem to sound sarcastic, it makes me worry my opponents think I'm BMing when I gratulate them before killing them.
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>>170548492
i wish there were more emotes with clear messages. almost everything sounds sarcastic when i do it.

on the other hand, sometimes you're forced to say gg in other games, so at least there's none of that here. i genuinely have no problem with saying gg though.
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>>170547105
Ive only played aggro so far because its all I can afford, but I decision making I make is how I can force the most damage through on a turn while still being able to keep up some damage next turn and the turn after and so on. I'll often look at my hand and think 'whats the best play' then after deciding and playing the cards I think 'I like this play'. There's usually also the issue when I start to get low on health of if I should be nuking the opposing player or removing his creatures and so on.
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5 wins here I come.
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>Go first
>Skip 1 drop as aggro or 2 drop as control
>Automatically lose
Truly the thinking man's game.
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>losing streak with sword for ranked daily
>switch to my neglected cblood
>win
ITS TIME
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>>170548784
You say that like you're not going to go up against a bunch of swordshitters that'll have you dead on turn 7.
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>>170548931
that hardly ever happens in arena.
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>>170548931
Every other class has to play grind, though. Autowinning against 5/7 seems good.
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>>170548492
>>170548652
I'd actually buy a emote pack if there was one and they were good. I don't see why not, just another way to make money which wouldn't hurt anyone.
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Do you guys play naked?
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heh
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>>170549085
LONDON?
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>tfw literally cannot stop climbing with storm haven
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>>170549119
demonic strike
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new forest legos when?
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>>170549119
Diabolic drain followed by righteous devil

Still loose next turn
EZ
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Get fucked, cancer card.
he evolved it to kill Eve like a retard, btw
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>>170549406
inb4 seraph haters because they lost to 30-40% winrate card
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>>170549368
Can't wait for the new wolf meme deck that costs around 50k.
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What packs? Last time we got (7mil promo) is around 12pm Japan time, not 12am
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>>170549406
>No Odin

He lost anyway.
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>>170549481
Just wait, we'll get something good. With two legos at least one has to be good.
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>>170549406
>tfw posted the wrong image
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>>170549483
*was
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>>170549543
[laughing dragons]
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>20 more days
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>Its a go first 5 times in a row in take 2 episode
>Not even playing as swordcraft

This take 2 shit is rigged whenever you're not playing sword
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>>170549473
>Seraph apologists already on damage control before anyone even said anything
>30-40% winrate

Whatever you say, you don't even know your own winrates.
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>tfw 0/6 for Yuel sleeves and 15 minutes left because I couldn't play SV the whole month

NOOOOO
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how do you guys plan/create your own decks? just go in the new deck window and start selecting cards?
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>>170549880
Yuel sleeve is shit, don't bother.
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Guess what commanders I have in my deck?

Still lost to nep.
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>>170549932
>netdeck t1 list
>change 1 insignificant card

there you go
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>>170549932
netdeck
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>>170549932
I just be myself.
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>>170549949
oka bla bla gosujin sama
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>PtP forest killing me with roaches accidentally
What the ever loving fuck is wrong with this cancerous craft
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>>170549932
>pick a card that I think is cool and base my deck around it

>put the best cards of the craft all in one deck

>modify a netdeck
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>>170550087
stop typing if you can't speak proper moon
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>>170549932
My enraged general deck has 10% winrate. At least I'm not a netdecker. ;-;
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>>170549932
First I think about what cards are absolutely vital to doing what I want to do with it, then I think about situations that I need to cover with the deck. You need some heal these days in basically every deck unless its extremly fast, for example. Looking at what slots I'm still free after my core cards to decide what to put in. Then techcards that need to be in decks for the current ladder meta.
Then it goes into stress testing on ladder and gets its tweaking accordingly.
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>>170550178
kys weebcuck
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>tfw 12 game win streak with Haven and made it out of A2 and into A3

I have no idea why no one seems to know how to play against Storm Haven anymore, but I'm very glad for it.
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>>170550178
TSUKKOME
TSUKKOME
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post me a decent midsward
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>try to rope against elana nigger
>fucking lego + evo animations make me time out without doing anything
JUST
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>>170549932
>net deck a midrange sword deck
>add in one cyclone cause i only have 2/3 tsubaki

Surprisingly useful desu especially when opponent summons 3+ followers on turn 5 going 1st and leaves 1 of mine alive cause it's only 1/2 or 2/2. Evo it to 3 or 4 attack, slam that card. Board clear and go face with that 1.
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>>170549932
Think of a wincon
Try to make wincon happen by imagining:
>what do you play t1? A 1 drop? nothing?
>what do you play t2?
>what do you play t3? etc etc
>what do other people play and how do I counter that
>what cards allow me to survive to make my wincon happen
Try out different stuff, change stuff if it doesn't work
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>>170550272
kys
dub
cuck
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>>170549936
I've literally been playing for the past eight hours and got every other sleeve.

Fuck me.
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>>170550329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9muK2M36c

Remember to always rope crafts you don't like kids.
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>>170550329
Why don't you play first and then let the timer run?
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>>170549932
life_of_a_netdecker.jpg
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>>170550293
>haven opponent that doesn't fucking heal up stall for like half an hour just for 1 game

I'm not even mad if I lose. I do have a pretty good win rate against storm ruda though, with mid sword. Helps that I climbed from start to A2 with half of them with storm ruda.
>>
Someone post life_of_a_antinetdecker.jpg please.
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So, yesterday a friendly anon gave me a new account to start with and suggested me to build Tempo Rune cause I'm a complete card game noob and it's apparently cheap to build. This is as close as i've gotten in a day of F2P, what would you change and why? Don't have much experience with pvp yet. I didn't really know how to make good use of Kaleidoscopic Glow so i dropped it.
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>>170549932
I go gameai or japanese gamepress. Then I look for a top tier deck, copy the deck code, and then enter it in the shadowverse deck build page in the game.
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never update your drivers while playing
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>>170550630
>>
Send concede
45768
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Is Vania the best thing about Shadowverse?
May as well call it Vaniaverse.
>>
we ARE getting packs in 4 min right
>>
>>170550736
That's not one I'm looking for but saved anyway. The one I'm looking for is some kind of comic.
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>>170550917
>no Magisa sleeve
I should've grinded with Runecraft first ;__________;

Fuck
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
Do score rewards reset monthly?
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>>170550849
Hey, that's my picture
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>>170550917
We are?
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>>170550917
>he fell for the free packs meme again
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>>170550651
Okay, first you delete the Dariacancer deck, dust Daria and then make a AggroBlood deck.
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/16-match-win-streak-master-rank-aggro-bloodcraft-jiangnajiang

Like this, if you can't come up with one yourself.
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>>170550989
Yes, it says right there on the score screen...
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>>170550917
Yes. FREE PACKS.
>>
>play Nep in ranked
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>all Seraph

It's like I'm back in fucking DE.
>>
Hey

Does anyone have a spare account with all the Granblue sleeves?

Asking for a friend.
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>>170550917
i thought it was on the 10th?
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Tfw she was the first one I did. Feels damn good to use best girl in all decks.
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>>170550849
post dick
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>>170551171
It's already the 10th in Japan.
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>>170551085
>lets play with control
>d-shift non stop
>fuck this, let's go aggro
>all opponents are now haven stalls

I've been salty with games the past couple years but not this salty.
>>
>>170551171
It's the 10th in countries that matter
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japs are so horrible, they've all been roping for the past 10 minutes of this guy's stream
>>
FREE

PACKS

BOYS
>>
>Only one gold
>>
the free packs are up.
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>>170551346
Roping?
>>
>>170551281
>try to do blood dailies in unranked
>literally every opponent is also blood aggro
>they all go 1st all the time and get ungodly draws
>>
concede p-please?
45768
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What are the strongest Take-Two classes? The weakest?

I assume Sword is really strong and Haven(?) is weak?
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>>170551346
Japs are literally subhuman, this is why they invented anime
>>
>White Wolf
Could be worse. I'm happier about the animated Veight.
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>>170551059
Thank you, I'm not much of a deck builder yet just collecting cards and playing with stuff that works. I'll try it out!
>>
>8 free packs
>>
>>170550651
Drop Cache, Rune Blade Summoner, Fate's Hand, Destroyer and Wind Blast.
Get a third Levi, a third Piercing Rune, a third Blade Mage, 2 Demonic Strikes and 2 Angelic Snipes.
Alternatively, do all of the above, but drop Snipes altogether and play 2 Kaleido + something like a third Strike or Dance.
There: you have a very standard Tempo Rune build.
>I didn't really know how to make good use of Kaleidoscopic Glow
Just use it to bounce your Levis to use them multiple times or to bounce your opponent's 2 drops.
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PACKS ARE REAL GUYS
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It is time anons. Pray to Seraph for lucky draws.
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>>170551425
Sword>>>Shadow>Dragon>>Haven>Blood>Forest>>>>Rune
>>
FREE PACKS

That's like what, 4 HS expansions worth?
>>
>>170551425
Dragon>Shadow>Sword>Haven>Blood=Forest>Rune
>>170551518
Glory be!
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>open 4 free packs
>2 legendaries
Thanks Cygames
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MY MAGISA SLEEVE
MY FUCKING MAGISA SLEEVE
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
WHY GOD WHY
>>
ONLY 1 GOLD AND IT'S FUCKING ELF OF THE GEMSTONES REEEEEEEEEEE DIDN'T EVEN PULL ANY PR OR FEENA FUCKKKKKKK
>>
i got a taboos n-nice.....
>>
Thanks necrololi!
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>1 gold
>it's grea

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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T-Thanks
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>>170551518
GLORY BE
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>tfw you get your 4th bahamut
>animated
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How'd I do?
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>3 golds I already have
T-Thanks
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>>170551518
Curse you fucking retarded statue.
May Glory Never Be!
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>FREE PACKS
>4th memes in the sky and grea
I just want the Daria an Matriarch emblems, they are the ones I'm missing.
>>
Well, that was a nice 2.9k vials.
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[autistic screeching]
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>be hating on daria in this very thread
>open my 4 pack
>see this

cygaaaaaaaames
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>third bahamut
Well, thank you Cygames.
>>
>>170551518
Y'know what, Glory Be. My luck has been mostly terrible pack-wise. Convince me that Seraph isn't a wholly evil being.
>>
Why does this shota keeps following me??
>>
>>170551518
>4th Bahamut
Thank you Seraph, you are my greatest ally
>>
>>170551495
>Just use it to bounce your Levis to use them multiple times
Wow, can't believe i didn't think about using it on my own cards. Thanks! Just spent 1600 on 2x Levi so the third will have to wait i guess. I do have a spare Piercing Rune though. I've put in Blade Summoner early when i was still missing more cards and it won me a bunch of games so it kinda grew on me.
>>
This is all your fault /svg/. If you didn't distract me I probably would have gotten the Magisa sleeve and you'd all be blessed with good pulls. But seriously
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU, to: everyone who runs meta decks in unranked.
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>170551059
>stop playing ass cancer
>play dick cancer instead
Shit recommendation.
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>Still have zero (0) Amelias
REEEEEEEE
>>
>>170550326
c'mon doe, help a nignog out.
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>>170551679
>3rd Shaha

See, Seraph is a scam by haven shitters.
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>>170551203
Literally 10/10 girl
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>>170550630
>>
>750 vials
t-thanks
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>no legendarys
Thanks for nothing cygames
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>>170551786
You had two (2) weeks, fuck off
>>
>7 Piercing Runes, a Daria and an Eidolon from my free packs

Well there goes all my luck in one afternoon.
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>>170551870
>get 2 legos
>still complain
REPENT SINNER
>>
>>170551902
>big tits
>10/10
4/10 is the best i can give her desu
>>
>>170551857
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/2?hash=1.2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.625lm.625lm.625lm.65wcO.65wcO.5-Hbq.5-Hbq.5-Hbq.625lc.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.628AI.65z2e.65z2e.65z2e.625lI.625lI.625lI.628BE.628BE.628BE.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.659nE.659nE.65vtg.65vtg.69rKo.69rKo.69rKo.62D36.62BLa.62BLa.62BLa
>>
>>170551814
Looks like you'll never get amelia
>>
Remember that you can still get full value from Minigob, Feena and Rune if you liquify them now.
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>>170551994
I'm not complaining, merely exposing your false God.
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not bad
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>>170551959
I started 4 days ago and had the shittiest pulls on this sub probably for a newbie and I don't have a phone to reroll and the chinese android emulators crash for me

FUCK YOU
>>
I got my third Daria bois
>>
Pulled an Albert finally, so I got his emblem. Too bad I crafted 3 of them a while ago. Also got an all animated pack with 2 golds.
>>
> open the 4
> one gold
> it's memes in the sky

God damn it, /svg/, why do you have to fucking be right?
>>
>>170551996
Oh you finally got internet to work in Nigeria, Abayomrunkoje?
Real happy for you.
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>>170552078
But Seraph isn't god.
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>ZERO LEGOS.
>ONE GOLD.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.
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Let me take you on a journey
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>>170552025
Explain?
>>
How many vials is an average pack worth?
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>>170552181
Exactly, yet you fuckers worship her like one.
Curse her name and get free legos!
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>>170552219
>out of 4 packs
What are you autisming about? It's not like you opened 10.
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>>170552246
They got nerfed so liquifying them gives you the same amount of vials as crafting them would cost.
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>>170551425
/svg/ really underrates forest in t2. i'd put it second after sword. as long as you get plenty of fairy generators you're good.
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>>170552225
Fuck, after getting so many imperial dragoons, I wish I can pull an Eidolon now. I PULLED FUCKING 7 IMPERIAL DRAGOONS ALL NON-ANIMATED of all the RoB packs I've opened altogether.
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>>170551924
Thanks.
>>
>>170552330
Is this a limited time offer? When did Feena get nerfed, how come I never noticed? What did they nerf about her?
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THE BEST
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>>170552332
i thought that too after getting rekt by one and then going 4-1 with my own one right after. haven't been able to replicate that though and by now i've forgotten what to look out for.
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>>170552225
You got more vials in that first pack than I got in all mine.

>>170552310
I've had like 3 legos in my last 40 something packs and they were all anus tier. One was even Soul Dealer.
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>First fully animated pack
>First animated lego
T-thanks I guess.
>>
>>170552457
They nerfed Gobu, so the Gobu generator was nerfed.
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>open my main and alternative account one by one 4 packs each
>my main gets castle in the sky and rest are silvers
>my alternative account gets this from 4 packs

Wtf I hate cygames now.
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T-thanks.
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>>170552225
So jelly, i want an eidolon but i don't want to waste so many vials on him
>>
>>170552007
>3x Kunoichi
>No stealth interactions
Why do you meme so?
>>
>>170551814
I opened like 11 of them by now, 1 was animated.
>>
>>170552457
Nerfing Gobu = nerfing Feena, since her effect is reliant on Gobu.
Also, yes, they will revert this after a while.
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>>170552462
Literally stole everyones luck, FUCK YOU
>>
>>170552267
anyone?
>>
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Lucky packs
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>>170552150
I got skymemes and a Saha.
And 1000 vials.
Not bad for free shit, I guess.
>>
>>170552462
Gimme dem animated thighs.
>>
>>170552118
I started last Sunday in the same situation as you and I completed them all. You have no excuse.
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>>170552025
Thanks for the reminder. I have 3 animated p rune and had obtained 3 more normal p runes since I liquefied the last lot. free 600 vials, cheers.
>>
>>170552656
It's my second one :^)
I already had 3 of all of them just from packs.
And haven't spent a cent.
>>
>>170552462
Damn son
>>
>>170552661
Fuck off luckpullshitter, seriously fuck off, not even my shitty neutralcraft was good enough to outpace 90% of (meta) decks I faced in unranked.
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>get win 4 shadow daily
>this happens 4 games in a row
this shit is not playable
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>>170552118
>sub

Holy shit, you need to go back and fuck off.
>>
>>170552457
Does Feena have any use outside of T2? Should I liquefy all my copies now?
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>>170551349
All silvers and bronzes. Just my usual luck.
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>>170552790
>aggro shadow

Well there's your problem.
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3 / 9
>Event ends up in the 10 according to the pastebin
>log in
>quests gone

What is this bullshit

I missed on the shitter classes sleeves because of that (shadow/blood/haven)
>>
>>170552790
shhhhh you're not supposed to say that dragon is broken!
>>
>>170552817
That was a typo. You know what I meant, fuck off.
>>
>>170552790
But dragon suck xDDD
>>
>>170552849
10 in Japan baka gaijin.
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>>170552849
lol
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This game is easy!
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>>170552819
As long as 2 drops exist, Feena and Gobu will always be relevant.
Also, Tempo Forest still uses her as a 0 cost generator.
>>
>>170552462
>>170552504
>>170552515
>>170552537
>>170552606
>not opening all 8 packs at once
>>
>>170552849
>shadow
So no Cerberus sleeves for you?
My condolences anon.
>>
>>170551518
GLORY BE !
>>
>>170552954
Still if you say from 1 to 10 the number 10 counts too

i should have 24 hours more
>>
>>170552920
>Le typo damage control.
Mistyping 5 complete letters and nowhere close to a fucking typo.

Go back to Ieddit faggot.
>>
>>170552983
>waiting
>>
>>170552983
Why? Let me taste disappointment multiple times.

>4 packs, nothing new but at least ~1.5k vial from dupes
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>constant daria shitters and albertfaggots in D rank

When the autism is just right
>>
>>170552983
>autism
>>
>>170552983
>bigger the packs you open, bigger the disappointment you're gonna get
N-no thanks
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>2 golds total from the 7 free packs last month
>get this now
Gee, thanks.
>>
>Open packs
>Get shit
>Go on to ranked for dailies
>First match opponent gets T4 Daria
It's going to be one of those days isn't it?
>>
>>170552849
>pastebin
>no literally looking at the top of the screen where it tells you when it ends in your time

You kinda asked for it.
>>
>>170552983
I always seem to get luckier pulls when I pull in bulk, for some reason, as opposed to doing single pulls.

>>170553081
Fuck off fag.
>>
>>170553092
Good chance of getting a legendary in one of those packs. Makes you forget that everything else was shit.
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Is it possible to make a guardian sun deck win without a wincon like Satan or Seraph?
>>
I didn't get any sleeves or emblems
because I play casually
>>
>>170553398
>drawing leggos
I'd be happy with useful golds, anon.

>>170553436
Possible, sure. But don't expect to win often.
>>
>>170553357
You need to go back faggot. If you use reddit you need to kys.

>>>/r/shadowverse
Look you can join your little circle jerk.

Also stop pushing the discord shit and tripfaggotry.
>>
>>170553436
No, you're not going to have the raw power to push through. Just play Elana if that's what you're trying to do since many of the followers in guardian sun are the same as in Elana.
>>
>>170553494
So do I. Only ones I had to grind out at the last minute were Blood and Rune.
>>
>>170553436
Wait for next expansion and use Aegis.
>>
>>170553398
>open 8 packs
>get lego
>it was expected

>open 8 packs
>get shit
>massive disappointment

>open packs as you get them
>get legos
>oh shit nice

>open packs as you get them
>get shit
>oh well, it's not like I expected anything

I'm not ready to take the chanced and get disappointed.
>>
>>170553252
>Don't draw any cudgel, lions, themis, or tribunal
>He draws into burn lethal
Wew.
>>
>>170553569
I don't use reddit or discord you cretin, kill yourself and fuck off.
>>
>>170553679
You were caught, just go back, no one wants you here
>>
>>170553780
Nobody was caught faggot, fuck off and die.
>>
DRAGON LEGO WHEN
>>
>>170553494
I play casually and got all emblems and sleeves. The only ones I had to grind for were the Magisa ones.
>>
Guardian Sun vs Elana Sereph. This feels like it's been going on for an hour, fuck.
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>>170553224

I think i just got memed, first pack had no gold or lego either and i just knew i was gunna get fuck youd by the rest of them.
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>>170553679
>cretin
>using reddit words

*tips fedora*
>>
>No gold
>Only one Legos (Bahamut) that I already have
Could have been better, but eh. I started two weeks or so ago.
>>
ANNE AND GREA SLEEVES WHEN?
>>
>>170553848
>called it a sub
>denies calling it a sub
Just leave.
>>
>>170554136
Cretin was never a reddit word, because pussy redditors don't insult each other, you retarded faggot.
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>>170553926
After that disappointment i opened a darkness pack with my last coins and the last card is a lego, I feel abit better now.
>>
>>170554260
I was on /pol/ you dumbshit on the Trump general and I'm guessing somewhere down the line while I was scrolling through fast I saw "sub", probably the Trump sub, and that's why I said "sub". Now fuck off and stop shitting up /svg/ with your shitposting.
>>
>>170554348
I'd be happier about the animated Unica.
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>>170554390
>I was on /pol/ you dumbshit on the Trump general
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>>170554390
It's time to go back.

>>>/r/the_donald
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>>170554390
How pathetic can one discord shitter be
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>>170554485
>>170554348
same, i have like 20 copies of unica and 0 animated
lucky
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>>170554490
>>170554515
MAGA
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>>170554485
Is olivia any good or vial juice? I could vialate and make an Odin or PoD which is what I was hoping for when I bought the pack.
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New thread when?
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New
>>170554538
>>170554538
>>170554538
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>>170554571
>>170554515
>>170554390
>>170554260
>>170553848
>>170553780
>>170553679
>>170553569
>>170553357
FUCK OFF YOU BOTH GO HANG YOURSELVES
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>>170554515
>>170554554
It's time you stop shitposting fag and it's time you kill yourself.

>>170554490
For the record I'm not a Trump supporter but I do truthfully browse /pol/.
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>>170554390
>sub

I check on /pol/, there is no word of sub at all. Stop lying to yourself. You are trying too hard to fit in.
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>>170551518
Glory fucking be!
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>>170554608
Olivia is a great card.
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>>170554642
Okay you go check on /pol/ and fuck off now.
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WHAT DECK/CRAFT BENDS DARIA THE FUCK OVER AND FUCKS HER IN THE ASS UNTIL SHE'S BLEEDING AND PROLAPSED. I NEED TO MAKE THIS BITCH FUCKING PLEAD FOR FORGIVENESS, THIS CUNT HAS BEEN FUCKING ME SINCE DAY ONE OF HR ARRIVAL AND I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE.
I WANT THEM TO BEG FOR NERFS SO THEY CAN JUSTIFY NOT HAVING TO FUN INTO THIS DECK ANYMORE. I DONT CARE IF I DONT WIN ANY OTHER GAMES OTHER THAN JUST FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT DARIA PLAYERS OVER FOR SUBMITTING TO PLAYING THIS DISGUSTINGLY OVERPOWERED BITCH.

this is not bait, I am legit looking for a deck
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>>170554781
I already did you dumbfuck. There is no word of "sub" at all. You need to kill yourself hillary supporter.
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why so many Seraph decks today?
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>>170554835

I had success with my tempo havencraft deck. Got a 12 winstreak with it and also beat Darias
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>>170551425
Sword>Dragon>Forest>Haven>the rest
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>playing Seraph for daily
>relatively safe decks like nep and mirror
>they all run Odin and pull it by turn 8
Ok game its time to stop.
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>tfw you have to fight the urge to draw cards for another 20 days
Fug.
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