/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

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Elv

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>>170447945
>lieknigng elv

>>170447939
>>170447945
The meme that killed /dfg/

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>>170448171
Memes are our lifeblood.
The very essence that fills our caverns and assholes.

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This taking a turn for the worst

Everyone plays on large worlds right?

>>170449292
for adventurer, sometimes

Does anyone actually use the mouse for mining or any designations?

>>170448423
Dumb frogposter

>>170449292
Small or smaller/pocket for laptop games for fort
Med/large for adventurer

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>>170448821
>undulates rhythmically

That's really arousing.

>>170449292
Do you seriously think my PC can handle that

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>>170449371
Cheer up, anon.

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>>170449292

>Another Starbucks fire

>>170449292
I always play on 257 x 257

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not gonna lie i got a pretty big hard-on already

>>170449292
Don't make me dump this again.

>In-game tiles
1 tile (in-game) = Aprox 2x2x3 meters (Adams 2012)

16x16 tiles (in-game) = 1 tile (site travel map)

48x48 tiles (in-game) = 1 tile (embark/region travel map)

768x768 tiles (in-game) = 1 tile (world map)

>Site travel map tiles
1 tile (site travel map) = Aprox 32x32 meters

1 tile (site travel map) = 16x16 tiles (in-game)

3x3 tiles (site travel map) = 1 tile (embark/region travel map)

48x48 tiles (site travel map) = 1 tile (world map)

>Embark/region travel map tiles
1 tile (embark/region travel map) = Aprox 96x96 meters

1 tile (embark/region travel map) = 48x48 tiles (in-game)

1 tile (embark/region travel map) = 3x3 tiles (site travel map)

16x16 tiles (embark/region travel map) = 1 tile (world map)

>World map tiles
1 tile (world map) = Aprox 1536 meters

1 tile (world map) = 768x768 tiles (in-game)

1 tile (world map) = 48x48 tiles (site travel map)

1 tile (world map) = 16x16 tiles (embark/region travel map)

>>170450552
>Pocket world (17x17)
1 pocket world = Aprox 26.112x26.112 kilometers

1 pocket world = 13056x13056 tiles (in-game)

1 pocket world = 816x816 tiles (site travel map)

1 pocket world = 272x272 tiles (embark/region travel map)

1 pocket world = 17x17 tiles (world map)

>Smaller world (33x33)
1 smaller world = Aprox 50.688x50.688 kilometers

1 smaller world = 25344x25344 tiles (in-game)

1 smaller world = 1584x1584 tiles (site travel map)

1 smaller world = 528x528 tiles (embark/region travel map)

1 smaller world = 33x33 tiles (world map)

>Small world (65x65)
1 small world = Aprox 99.840x99.840 kilometers

1 small world = 49920x49920 tiles (in-game)

1 small world = 3120x3120 tiles (site travel map)

1 small world = 1040x1040 tiles (embark/region travel map)

1 small world = 65x65 tiles (world map)

>Medium world (129x129)
1 medium world = Aprox 198.144x198.144 kilometers

1 medium world = 99072x99072 tiles (in-game)

1 medium world = 6192x6192 tiles (site travel map)

1 medium world = 2064x2064 tiles (embark/region travel map)

1 medium world = 129x129 tiles (world map)

>Large world (257x257)
1 large world = Aprox 394.752x394.752 kilometers

1 large world = 197376x197376 tiles (in-game)

1 large world = 12336x12336 tiles (site travel map)

1 large world = 4112x4112 tiles (embark/region travel map)

1 large world = 257x257 tiles (world map)

>>170450552
do you think i would be wasting my life playing videogames if i could into math? just tell me how many square km does large world equate to

>>170450518
>says anon before a wildfire kill everything

>>170450729

Really really large

Like Texas big

>>170450665
As the more observant among you may have noted, the amount of embark tiles per world map coincides with the number of pixels on the detailed world map. This means that each pixel on the detailed map corresponds to one embark tile.

>>170450767
speaking of wildfire the pool does like a bit like straya

>>170450552
>>170450665
Yes we get it it's big

>>170450518
Give save, man

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>>170450976
Not as big as my schlong lol

>>170450665
holy shit, you're telling me that a large world is 3 orders of magnitude bigger than the earth's surface?

>>170451162
mega.nz #!YFEgwLya!D1Aj3Ri8wHa9LwY1VX-3QY6gexljWaFiVWPNCnZVCp8

>>170451329
>>170450789

>>170451329
Not at all.

395 kilometers squared is about 156 000 km2.

The area of Earth's surface, on the other hand, is 510 100 000 km2.

The large world in DF is faaar smaller, but still pretty large by video game standards.

>Wow, I had seen one of the panels from this in a forum signature so on a lark I did a google image on it, great stuff, almost wish I had found it later so I could keep reading more!

What did he mean by this?

>>170450552
>>170450665
I dont understand what you are getting at here?

>>170452476
It's just interesting numbers related to world sizes. There isn't any "point" to it.

>>170452476
>asking whats the point
>in a general for a simulator that has no end point

>>170449292
Everyone could play on large worlds if he would just introduce multi threading

>>170452629
>>170452798
No I just thought maybe he was implying large worlds are redundant due to their size. I agree its interesting to know roughly exactly how large the various world sizes are. Didnt ever really know until now.

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>>170452839

I smell dissent in your post, please follow me to the /dfg/ re educational facility

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>>170452839
The toad himself will punish your insolence, foolish mortal

>>170453123
>>170453741
There is. Tbh I get that multi threading might be hard to incorporate, but the fact of it is at some point going to have to be added. The more he adds to the game, performance issues will be even worse, and multi threading will be even harder to implement.

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>>170453123

Remember when memes didn't rule /dfg/?
Those were good times... good times...

>Oh nice, some people posted a couple of memes in this thread, time to get some sick (you)s

"HEY GUYS MEMES SUCK UPVOTE IF YOU AGREE HEHEHE"

>>170454851
Oh no, you've figured out my master plan
Whatever will I do without all those (you)s

Kindly jump off a cliff.

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>>170454663
>>170454851

What have we become

>>170455048
no u

>>170455113
EPIC MEMESTERS XD

But seriously, I don't mind a few memes as long as they're in moderation. A balance between memes and actual discussion is best.

>>170454851
Here, take it

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>>170440209
The fuck? Animals can worship gods?

>>170452049
my bad, I confused the notation (metric fag here)

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Are all mummy curses the same? What do they specifically do. I may or may not have just been cursed.

I've been cursed

What is the point of pocket worlds?
Like every time it's just a dying dwarf civ and a goblin civ.

>Complains there is no jobs

>Complains there is to much to do and no free time

I will never understand dwarfs

>>170456556
memes do not contribute to a "chill mood"
they in fact do the opposite, contributing to a "cringe mood"
especially the bad ones

>>170456940
NO YOU RETARD DFG IS ALL ABOUT THE CHILL MEMES ARE CHILL YOURE JUST DUMB STOP RUINING THE CHILL MOOD

>>170452069
I meant I found kill six billion demons from another forum with Zoss doing battle with the Primes.

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So, have any interesting Adventure Mode stories you want to share, /dfg/?

Would be interesting and pretty fun to see the weird shit you guys come up with.

>>170457219
No

>>170456831
Dorfs are mysterious beings, they're never truly satisfied with just lounging around or working 24/7

Kinda like us, actually.

My ballista ammo stockpiles are not filling up.

I checked for quality, for the other furniture stockpiles but my ammo are staying at my siege workshop. Same thing for the heads, they are staying at my magma forge.

.

>>170457219
I jumped off the pinnacle of a goblin tower to try kill myself but ended up surviving.

Think Gandalf off the tower of Orthanc, only to stand up with a broken nose and walk away.

>>170457456
Ok I figured it out, didn't check for the Materials.

>>170456825
You can kill everything in then with ease and bring about the Age of Death

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>>170457198
I know, I just found it amusing to see you pop up on there.

I'm slowly making my way through it. Becoming more keen on your KSBD mod all the
while.

>>170457669
Except they're not quite as grand. Hmm, I think I need to make an Orthanc.

Botes?

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>>170458386
HE'S BACK GUYS ASSADASDDS

TIME TO SHOW THIS DUMB MEMESTER WE DON'T TOLERATE HIS KIND AROUND HERE

>>170458386
>>170458885
Haha someone screencap this before le 404

>>170458885
Dumb frogposter.

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>>170457110

>>170458885
Holy shit fuck off already

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>mfw thread goes to shit AGAIN

Funny how these threads are just shit and full of memes. No actual game discussion. Quite unlike the discourse over at the /rwg/

>>170459564
We used to be different. A long time ago /dfg/ was one of the most respectable generals on /vg/.
The only fighting was Squares vs Rectangles as well as ASCII vs Graphics.

And even then it wasn't as bad as it is now.

Will dwarf sutured with admantinium thread get natural armor

if so would a dwarf sewn together by said thread and clad in armor of same material become some walking terminator then?

just been grinding my gear alot

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>>170457989
I'm still stumped on some of the magic effects I'm trying to work through.

>>170459897
I like to think the squarefags saw how sad and depressing rimfags are since the diagnosis of cancer came back and recognized the error of their ways.

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You guys know who is actually behind all this shitposting of late?
Don't check the spoiler unless you're ready to take the square pill: it's the fucking square-tileset users.

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>>170460252
>using square or rectangle tilesets
>not using the clearly superior circular tilesets

>>170456556
>>170457110
>>170458885
>>170454851
reported

>>170460252
spoken like a true rectangle falseflagger

>>170460917
>tfw no one reposts your OC
>instead, they repost bastardised (and untruthful) versions of it

>>170461357
post your oc then

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>>170461408

>>170461640
Nice

>>170459897
It wasn't even a long time ago. It's only the last couple of months that some newfags have come in and started vandalizing every thread. They don't know or care about our general's culture.
And before anyone says it, no, it's because it's been a while since the last update. /dfg/ was never like this in the long update droughts after 34.11 and 40.24.

>>170461912
*not because of...

Think i must have embarked on some weird place

cause i only get blob FBs and they dies to everything
the only real challenge so far was a flying fire breathing blob

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What kinds of magic are we getting in the myth and magic updates, I've heard there will be a slider and stuff, but what does this mean apart from choosing between worlds either having magic or not?

Do we get the simple dnd tier spells that we learn, or will magic be more pervasive, relying on spirits or channeling gods and stuff.

>>170461912
>>170459897
it's one or two people tops.

it wouldn't surprise me if they're cross-general shitposters from you know where.

>>170462251
You... Y-you don't mean...? /r/rimworld?

>>170462193
I'm gonna fuck that dumb loli witch

>>170462363
1. She's not real
2. She's a child
3. Senshi is the superior waifu

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>>170462193
I'd love to see all kinds of magic to be honest.
Elemental magic, light and dark magic, healing magic, blood magic, rituals, miracles, curses, voodoo, illusion magic, geomancy, mind control, time magic...

There's so many types of magic I'd love to see in DF. Plus, Toady could get real creative with the type of magic he adds, and could come up with some crazy shit, like Gem magic or something.

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>>170462353
Dude, they're right next door, don't gotta go to reddit to find that sort of depressing faggotry.

>>170462506
>3. Senshi is the superior waifu
troof

>>170462548
>Each dwarven civilisation has their own form of earth magic based around which mineral they value the highest
>Elves use the their nature powers to send natural disasters or animalistic rampages against their foes
>Humans use pretty much any kind of magic they can get their hands on, with their favourites being the most obviously powerful
>Goblins don't use magic, only the demons acn cast hugely powerful spells with world-changing consequences, but require immense bloodshed and preparation

My penis is incredibly stiff.

>>170462828
Son a bitch

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>>170462828
Reminder.

>>170462548
IIRC he's said there'd be an internal list to draw from that are gated by the world's magic level. More mundane worlds might have ritual magic that may or may not actually even work or an animistic "beseech the spirits of this place" type deal, while high magic worlds would have more diverse, pervasive, or unusual systems like one centered around talismans, or inborn ability, or it being something you can learn or be taught.

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Here's some more map size autism.

Wasted more time than I had to on it. I'm experiencing a brief "can't quite dorf" period at the moment, but at least obsessing over numbers can give me dat sweet DF kick.

Really sets your neurons spinning, doesn't it?

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>>170465120
Neat.
And I'm sure it'd be easy to mod, so you could technically make whatever type of magic you want if you so wish.

This update sounds fucking amazing. I'm pumped fro when it comes out.

>>170462363
>>170462506
Just wait for her to fuck up elf island and be part of the most fucked up chapter yet.

>>170449292
I play on 65x65 with one world I made in perfect world. There's a few others 129x65, 257x129 and 129x129. Though it really doesn't matter too much depending on how much you change the settings.

>>170465717
But what if nothing bad actually happens

>>170466243
I'll stop reading it and forget it ever existed. Though there might never be a new chapter at this rate.

>>170466401
I think I've heard the next chapter releases on the 24th of this month

>>170466450
I just want more characters to get killed. Fuck all the children he has with him.

>>170466652
I like the children but I feel like the story is going kind of soft, but I bet it's all leading to something big

So, let's keep talking about magic, do you think it's gonna be fucking OP?

>>170466792
It's fucking magic.
Magic is OP.

>>170466891
Not always

In a lot of games magic is either weaker or equal to physical combat

>>170466792
>>170466891
>>170466938
It's DF so magic is going to be fucked up, both awesome and why the fuck is this magic bucket causing a shift to the fire plane?

>>170465165

Well.....almost Texas big

>>170453936
cute

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>>170467076
There's probably gonna be magic related accidents too, like having a dwarf accidentally blow himself up with his own fireball or something.

Which'll be hilarious and FUN.

>>170467252
>tfw my dwarves get groose'd

how much of a difference in performance is there really between larger maps and smaller maps?

>>170467392
>tfw the groose is loose and killing your dorfs.

>>170465165
Huh, 65x65 is just about the same size as the Golden Triangle (DFW+Denton area) but it's kinda weird since I've crossed distances on bikes that can be distinguished on that map scale (the g in Arlington on I-45 down to the far side of the first n on I-35 E) and I can actually kinda relate that to crossing a pocket world now.

>>170466792
It's Berserk, they're getting close to a major plot thread resolve, and as close to a happy ending as it'll ever get... someone's gonna get murdered or fucked or murderfucked to death soon.

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>>170466938
>In a lot of games magic is either weaker or equal to physical combat.
Mostly because most games are balanced now. It didn't always used the be that way.

DF is pretty grounded into old fantasy, so I fully expect magic to be meticulous as fuck but have completely cataclysmic effects.

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>>170462363
I think we all know which picture is hiding behind that spoiler tag...

>>170468003
There is not enough porn of her, it's horrible.

>>170467539
If this is how it is, I will enjoy this.

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>>170467525
>I've crossed distances on bikes that can be distinguished on that map scale
Meph?

>>170465165
>"large" worlds arent even the size of texas

Kek. Pathetic desu.

>>170469479

Nothings larger than Texas, your imbecile

>>170469479
Nigga show me a computer that could handle a "large" world the size of Earth.

>>170469479
If it was a sovereign state, it would place 92nd of 195 in terms of size.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_area

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>>170468351
...fuck no, I rode bikes miles across hot as fuck summer asphalt because I was a fucking bored 14 year old, not some faggoty ass leech scam artist.

>>170469704
This is true.

>>170470096
Kek, post the one with Africa

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>>170470096
>>170470489
never mind, found it

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>Start new map after two years away from the game
>Set low requirements for invasions too speed things up
>Embark near tower, elves, which my civ is in war with, and goblins
>Really sweet spot: sand, magma tube up to the second cavern layer, lots of iron, dense underground forest, no annoying wildlife
>First autumn
>Dead walk
>Fucking 50 zombies and a necro
>Against my 12 Dabbling wrestlers and 3 Skilled Maceman in leather
>Fuck
>For some reason they don't path into fortress and just stay on the same spot
>Mechanic and Glassmaker start massproducing disk traps
>Cyclop arrives
>Fuck, fuck, fuck
>Immediately start pathing into the fort
>Bump into zombies
>Gets swarmed and dies
>Turns out zombie leader is not a necro, what a relief.
>More than that, two zombies are double-dead now
>Half-month-long timeskip
>Weresheep is suddenly on the outer wall By the way, is transformed werechild a full-grown adult beast, or that beast's child?
>Charges into zombies
>Yeah baby, time to kick their heads
>Proceeds to go down really fast
>Check the battle logs
>His kick attacks are deflected by fucking xx(sheep leather robe)xx, while he is chopped into pieces by copper weapons. He wasn't bad too tho, his heart was pierced at least three times and he was still fighting.
Holy shit, I don't remember zombies being this strong. Or going full-steel. There are at least six full-steel zombies and they had no need to join that fights. Were zombies and necros buffed at some point? And I don't believe my disk traps can do something here, should I die like a real man and then reembark or go full elf and build a lot of cage traps?

>>170469740
Any modern day computer could probably run DF on a map 3x the size of the current "large" world size, but Toady is a lazy fuck who refuses to optimize the game to run on modern hardware.

>>170471012
Problem would be that he fixed the bug that stopped invaders from getting armor. For ages invaders and shit never had armor.

>>170471032
WEW

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Bamparuuuu

>>170473440
kobolds have yellow eyes, not red you mong

>>170471182
They had armor. They just didn't have arm or leg armor.

>>170471012
Zombies got a significant buff in .40, possibly accidental, that put them on the level of husks/thralls. They started coming armored then, too. They were nerfed back to sanity in .42, and aren't much more of a threat than goblins unless the necromancer is still around. You would have a zombie cyclops and a weresheep child zombie if it were.
Also, stop making glass traps immediately and deconstruct the ones you have. The second one hits an armored enemy it will break and crash the game. New bug introduced by weapon/armor degradation.

>>170473529

I don know if its damn impressive or just downright creepy that you know this

>>170473885
their eyes glow in the dark in adventure mode. pretty much everyone who have encountered them at night or underground knows it.

>>170474154
Yar, but I didn't make it or I woulda put that detail in properly, I just saved it because the TUUUUUBES meme amuses me.

Jesus, playing without Dwarf Therapist is very very pleasant.

I'm playing a different game right now.

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Magic arms and armour when?

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>>170473529
>>170474290
I was originally going to make them yellow when I made that edit, but red looked better.

>>170474719
.59 in late 2018 or early 2019

>>170474667
alright calm down

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>>170474978

>>170474857
Much appreciated.

>>170471243
he's right though

>>170474719
Someone really needs to make a Berserk mod for DF. Would be perfect with the way combat works.

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>>170476140
A Bloodborne mod would be just as perfect to be honest.

Granted, you'd have to do a fair amount of code editing to make it as accurate as possible, but it'd be great. The goriness of DF's combat would be perfect for it, and it'd be cool to be able to kill bosses by lopping off limbs and the like.

>>170476140
DF has some similarities to Berserk, mainly that in adventure mode your character gets attacked by boogeymen at night when he's alone, just like Guts, it's interesting.

Before anyone gets angry I'm not saying DF got inspired by Berserk.

Making the dragonslayer shouldn't be too hard, I don't know how you would you make the berserker armor work though. As for apostles, well... I don't think that's possible right now.

>>170476591
>boogeymen
Lets face it toady must have been inspired by it at least for such a evil thing to exist.

Which do you like better: island worlds or region worlds?

>>170477072
what is even the fucking difference

>>170476591
I'm sure something like apostles could be added to dwarf fortress, although it would require the source code. They could function a lot like forgotten beasts, with a dash of werebeasts thrown in, except the transformation could be at will.

All you'd have to do is give them the [power] tag and a way to include behelits or something, and bam, fresh apostles everywhere.

>>170477002
they'd fit better into the Evil Dead universe, T B H

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H44R6TpWG8

>>170476591
>As for apostles, well... I don't think that's possible right now

Couldn't they be semi-mega beasts? Sounds like the best way to go about it.

>>170477072
Islands

>>170477189
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, since, as far as I know, transformations at will aren't possible to mod in.

>>170477197
Apostles have a human form and then should be able to blend in with the humans and other races, but they can also transform at will, the problem is that you can't transform at will in DF and I don't think it can be modded in.

>>170477475
>and I don't think it can be modded in

Pretty sure it was done in the Dragon ball mod.

>>170477810
How did it work?

>>170477475
You should be able to make an interaction to apply a transformation syndrome to yourself.

>>170477894
Yeah but what about NPCs

>>170477185
Why so hostile? It's just a simple question.

>>170477475
You can totally transform at will but it's handled weirdly.

>>170477887
I suppose Putnam made it so once the PC or an NPC was damaged to a certain point they could gain the ability to transform to SSJ. I'll probably have to look through the forum thread again because I haven't played that Mod in a year or so.

>>170478030
No idea, but it might still be possible.

>>170478030
You could make it a secret that gods bestow on mortals. Right now it only effects people who become obsessed with their mortality in worldgen, but you can make it so they can't teach anyone else.

>>170478251
Oh, seems like that might work well

>>170478416
Well that's a way to make it work

>>170478674
In order to make it work you'd have to put a timer on it, since only one CE_BODY_TRANSFORMATION token can be active at a time.

>>170479096
Well, what's the max time limit then?

>>170479320
None.

>>170479096
Note that you can overwrite them with another syndrome.

Also note that transformation completely heals the target and wipes out their physical characteristics, which is why all untransformed werebeasts are puny manlets.

>>170449292
I actually like playing on smaller worlds with 10 kingdoms. I figure that since civs of the same species won't fight each other yet, having more than one is pretty redundant. But I still like some variety so I compromise. I usually have 3 human, 2 elf, 2 dorf, 2 kobold, and 1 goblin civ.

Gives me the entire DF experience and I get to generate worlds with a thousand years of history. I usually set it to go to the 1200s.

>left handed people exist

I hate you Toady, left handed people are devilspawn and not real. There is no reason they should exist in my game, let alone be forced upon me as my adventuring characters.

>>170483385
Did you know that 75% of the world's population is left handed?
It's true!

>>170483627
i hate Toady and his decision making in this particular instance so god damn much

>>170481416
I kind of want to make a random polymorph spell now. Maybe it will turn your for into a rabbit, or maybe they will become a dragon.

>>170447380
Is there a replacement for Therapist yet?

>>170484206
df hack manipulator

less nice UI, less user friendly, but it's all there

god damnit why is it that every embark i go on, river or not, 4 z lvls down there is a zone wide damp soil lvl that I cannot mine through? its fucking irritating as shit, i tried 12 different dig spots and its all the same shit

>>170483627
Found the dyslexic!

I'm originally right handed like 85~90 percent of the people on Earth, but between juggling, deciding Bruce Lee was the man early on, and later learning the drums I'm functionally ambidextrous.

>>170484138
That isn't quite as easy.

>>170484480
aquifer?

>>170484330
Shame.

Would it be possible to make a syndrome that turns people gay?

Could I then attach it to an object, let's say, a rock?

Could I then, for instance, use a catapult to throw this magic gay rock at sieging elves or goblins, and destroy their civilization through attrition?

>>170484508
>jokingly say a large percentage of the planet left handed, when it's obviously not true
>get called dyslexic
jesus christ, you people don't fuck around do you

>>170484882
Serious business

>>170484882
Whaddayou mean 'you people'?

>jokingly call them dyslexic when that isn't remotely what dyslexia actually is
>get taken seriously

>>170485997
>>170484882
Jokes don't work on 4chan you dips.

>>170485997
'you people' as in 'you people within this thread'
If you were really joking, than I apologize.

>>170484480
aquifer. they can be surmounted (or disabled)
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Aquifer

>>170449345
no

>>170486213
everything is a joke

>>170449345
yes

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>>170488000
You just want me to say that your face is a joke, don't you.

>>170450518
What tileset is this?

>>170449345
Sure, for doorways or small, irregular shaped mining operations I do.

>>170488635

Not him but I'm pretty sure that's Phoebus.

>>170488568
I have terrible news, Anon.
You're having fun. Right now.

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>>170488568

So I am playing as a goblin and I am trying to join this goblin civilization, yet everyone is running from me. Why?

> be adventure dorf
> find a necromancer tower
> remeber you can get the book to summon the dead
> kill zombie horde down to 2 armored zombies
> hack off noses, arms, every part not covered in armor
> they have no teeth anymore, I bit them off through their helmets
> find the necromancers
> not attacking, oh well
> killing them takes a solid hour of hacking at necromancer parts
> all that's left is quivering mincemeat
> took me 2.5 real hours to get to this book but I finally-
> you cannot read
> (succumb to starvation)

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shieeeeet I don't even like marvel

>>170496562
Hopefully it's the cute silk one and not the "god I hope she's having a bunch of spiderlings" boring one.

>>170495529
Okay yeah goblins are attacking me on sight. Why?

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>>170496876
one thing is for sure, creatures like her embody the desire that all adventurers share to wield even more shields

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>>170497674

>>170496976
Goblin adventurers are generally members of human civs, and goblin civs are set to kill neutrals (everyone who isn't their civilization) on sight. You can modify this in their entity raw if you think it's unfun.

>>170499437
Also, you have to retire at a goblin site to become a part of their civilization, I think.

>>170465165
That's a handy thing you made there. Saved.

>>170470725
>filename
>can't not read it as "oy vey"
Modern 4chan has gotten to me a lot more than I thought.

>>170477072
I definitely prefer island worlds just because it helps me to not obsess over the fact that people can reach the edge of the world and there's just NOTHING there.

>>170486316
Zone wide aquifer? That's rediculous.. how can they be disabled? Even when I do specific searches for embarks, I hit no aquifers yet still get 100%

>>170499437
>>170499667
Ohhh okay. So if I retire at the goblin site and then unretire I will be part of their civilization? Will it be prerty much immediately or should I wait a little before unretiring?

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>Rumrusher pops up again
>has a script that takes their "grab your wrestling target and launcccc them" twist a new direction
>makes them into a mount so you can go all Zangief on them
>fucking around in my existing arena save
>try it out
>get killed a couple times
>bleed out in midair once
>head over to the grass area on my minecart and see a blinking dwarf
>here we have dwarf 1, dwarf 1, dwarf 1, etc
>the fuck?
>well, nothing for it
>grab hold and climb on top of a dozen dwarves that are all the same dwarf or some shit
>yippie-ki-yay motherfuckers

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>>170501378
>s/launcccc/launch
Fucking crumb stuck in the c key.

Oddly proud of this particular shot, never managed to die while hanging in midair like this.

>>170501095
The game simulates the two weeks since you retired so immediately should be fine.

>>170484480
That's called an aquifer. As >>170486316 says, they can be surmounted, or since the embark screen tells you about them beforehand, avoided entirely. You can also disable them (I don't remember if that's an init option or if you have to modify the raws), but that's lame.

>>170484784
Sadly, I don't think that would work because of the way populations are abstracted. I really wish Toady had handled population abstraction better, or just worked around not implementing it at all. It's probably the single decision Toady has made that I disagree the most with.

>>170449345
I use the init option to disable the mouse. I've never intentionally used it in DF and when I forget to disable it I keep accidentally designating random spots.

>>170501958
Thank you anon.

>>170502927
Augh! I forgot about that. I dislike it too, it ruins the history portion of the game for me since every time you make a fort or go adventuring almost everyone you meet is new and not a long-standing part of the world.

Something I found out about recently:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garnet
I had heard of garnets since I was fairly young (first by playing umoria when I was 13), but I didn't know there were multiple varieties, and I didn't know that so many of the gems in DF are indeed varieties of garnet. Anyone who has dug through metamorphic layers in DF will definitely recognize some of the names in that article.

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bump again

>cross river
>die
thanks toady

>>170512931
>jumping into a river when you don't know how to swim

>>170513080
Apparently swimming through ice doesn't work.

>>170513405
Oh, a flash-freeze. Now I understand.

>>170513405
Can't wait for that sort of thing to be more in-depth
>Be vampire
>Fall into river fleeing from hunters
>Get encased in ice.
>Am now trapped until it thaws.

>>170513525
>be dwarf sorcerer
>master of elements
>running away from gobbo army
>get encased in ice
>100 years go by
>dwarves resuscitate you to fight a war against gobbos

>>170513703
>be /dfg/ poster
>master of on-topic dorf discussion
>running away from shitposter army
>get encased in shitposts
>100 years go by
>wake up just in time for the artifact release

>>170514917
>Be loli elf
>running hydras and other megabeasts
>get kidnapped by goblins
>100 years go by
>be brainwashed by goblins

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>>170515137
>be elf girl (male)
>master of self righteousness
>runing from gobbos
>kidnapped by gobbos
>raped in boipucci for hundreds of years

>>170513525
If anything, water shouldn't freeze all the way to the bottom. It should just be a thin layer of ice, with chance to break depending on creature weight and ice thickness, which in turn would depend on water flow speed and time exposed to cold temperature, which would be affected by snow cover providing insulation.

So what other cool things does this general have apart from drawfags, tourneys and shitposting?

You guys call yourself the best general? Prove it. Enlighten me.

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>>170518163

>>170518163
Well I'd say we talk about the game but you'd have to wait till the next update for that to be true. Until then its basically a drought filled with memes.

>>170512893
i see that often when cutting trees and building stuff out of wood.

>>170518163
We used to be old /tg/-lite, but the content drought's left us worn a bit thin.

How can I get someone to make a bridge? It would seem I have no architect and I don't have dwarf therapist

>>170518934
Designate a random dwarf with the architect labour and he'll get around to it eventually

>>170518934
better question, how do I make someone an architect to do this task without dwarf therapist

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>>170447380
>tfw generated a world in the Age of the Dragon and the Marsh Titan
I think I'm going to make an adventurer whose life goal will be slaying both beasts and thus ushering in a Golden Age.

>>170519109
See, this is why people call the rapist a crutch that newbies shouldn't use until after they've learned how to play without it.

Select a dwarf with v, then use p for preferences, l for labor, and select architecture from other jobs at the bottom.

>>170519263
Thanks, real life saver.
Next question, some mason just "withdrew from society" and took over my mason workshop.. how do I solve this?

>>170519245
>Finally slay them
>The world has passed into a new era
>Age of Goblin

>>170519245
Can someone dump this guys pics?

I didn't bother saving them before bcause he didn't have a name back then, but now that he does, I can finally make a folder and save them.

>>170519625
That's a strange mood. They need specific materials to build something and if they're just standing at the workshop doing nothing, then the material needed isn't available. Some moods let you see what's needed by viewing the workshop.
If you don't have what the Dwarf wants, hope you can either make it, or that the next caravan will arrive soon with what he needs and buy it right away, otherwise, they'll eventually go berserk.

Wiki for more info

>>170519960
>otherwise, they'll eventually go berserk.
not necessarily.

they'll go insane, but not necessarily berserk. there's also "raving madness" and "melancholy". those two won't do any harm to the rest of the fort.

>>170520017
>>170519960
Jesus this game is horrifying

>Dwarven caravan arrives with liaison
>Order all but the most roundabout entrance closed to delay the liaison getting to the meeting before all the merchants spawn
>Liaison just barely makes it over the bridge before it retracts
Dangit. I don't like having to do trade deals before I know what the merchants have brought me this time around.

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Speaking of tweets, this one just came up at Toady's twitter.

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>>170520073
It has its moments, yeah.

>>170520017
>those two won't do any harm to the rest of the fort.
Until they start rotting and filling everything with their stench because the others are too lazy to drag their sorry carcasses away.

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>>170490909
damnit you got me

>>170521313
Please don't pretend to be me, you're making me feel even more paranoid.

>>170521369
There is nothing in those documents anon, I already skimmed through them and can confirm theres nothing there.

Do any of the social skill affect a Bartender?

>Accidentally set visitors to 100
>Finally rid of most

Unrelated but I want to take on the circus. Thinking of long winding corridors filled with iron spikes and a repeater. I saw the checkerboard idea but meh seems kinda boring. What do?

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>>170521768
Demons are STRONG

>>170519835
https://mega.nz/#!pBVyiYwB

I don't have a lot of them. Hopefully he will pop up again and help us out.

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>>170521810
That seems real spooky Anon. Tell me you killed it eventually?

>>170521927
I remember that the first time he posted last spring, he made several really neat looking scribbles on a sheet of paper. Instead of actually scanning it, he just posted poor quality photos of it.

Since he promised that he WOULD scan the whole thing, I never bothered saving his photos. In the end, we never got the scans.

>>170522042
Yeah I have a few of those, missed some also.

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>>170521990
Nah. I made that fort just to test pitting demons against angels.

Interfering would be unethical.

>>170521927
>>170522117
what's the password?

>>170522119
I just learnt about angels
woaw
I really need to breach hell to learn more.

>>170522169
!UC7jNgI1B8cR0gY22PZ3XCIDJApS37QT8_DLZiszqyE
This? I have no idea what I'm doing.

>>170522257
It worked.

Thanks. There was more stuff than I remember seeing here.

>>170522348
Yeah I tried to grab them all. I have a pretty hench Drew folder also.

Hey Drew. You said you would update your blog.

>>170522431
You should check the tournament page. Enclave had an NSFW pic of Annie Mae that would look nice in the collection.

>>170522487
Oh sheezy I forgot about that. I made seperate tourney folders since there were unnamed drawfags in each one. I do have them though.

Draw me the biggest Plump helmet and manly dwarfs manhandling it

>>170520278
I also wish I could see what I requested the previous year while setting priorities for the next year. I can't be assed to remember exactly what priorities I set everything to, and it's not clear whether you'll get more weapons grade metal by setting all of them to max priority or if you should set just one to max and the others to medium or one to max and nothing else etc. The fact that I can't save during the negotiation screen makes it all the worse. Yes, I can write it all down by hand or something, but that's so much extra effort, not that I've never done it.

Glarble glarghle blargle.

I have to balance my need to go to sleep with my irrationally intense desire to make sure my dwarven trade agreement is perfect.

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Boteanon still here?

This is for you.

>>170522647
Figured I'd upload all I had.
https://mega.nz/#!tId2iRiR!7sMtYUEKXSBYhqwIL5wLYZKNBGID7b518v_ozpqJD1s

>>170523486

Arrrgh mateys, the booty be found thar be rum tonight

>Mass dump living quarters

Ive always wondered how it would feel to be sleeping peacefully
only to wake up to the door getting kicked up and an army of dwarfs to start going trough all your possession in the room
and run away with all your used cloths

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>the player will have an active role in the inmigration

Oh, cool, seems like we'll be able to control who gets in and out in the fort
wait

>the Bay 12 Report
>yadda yadda...Special bonus for the next update, you'll be able to identify and punish agents and spies as you want!

brb, declaring racial purity laws in my forts

>>170524758

He cant get away with this

Dwarfs are suppose to be tolerant and progressive not to mention welcoming to outsiders

>>170519960
>>170520017
To add, he ended up just making some artifact quern worth 12,000* or whatever, then went back to normal.

>>170525498
did it have any artworks on it?

my fav artifacts are those with pictures of historical events on them.

>>170524839
t. ereyi danceflower

back to your tree lad

>>170525676
>on the quern is an image of a quern. It symbolizes the [Dwarven Civ] defeating the [Goblin Civ] in battle.

Will the therapist be updatet in foreseeable time?
I have a hard time organizing big fortresses without it

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>get a inherited baron
>the fucker walk right into a fucking pool
Fucking nobles

>>170526118

It will be ready for the DF Olympics in 2043

do not worry and stay clean

>>170526118
yes anon I come from the future, because of your comment right here the fork of therapist that you specifically used will be updated in less then a week.

Everyone who contributes to the rapist all join together to collectively update it immediately because of your post bringing it to their attention. Thank you anon for your valued contributions to not only this thread, but also to making sure that everyone knows to get together and update the rapist. Faggot.

But for real just be patient. It will update when it updates.

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>want to shitpost and bump dorf thread last night
>The Forgotten Beast Comcast has come! A gigantic six-legged whore of a corporation, it's infrastructure is old and rotting. Beware it's monopolistic behavior!
>fffffffffuuuuuuuuuu

okay I've never played Masterwork before, is it updated for 43.05?

>>170526493
I knew I'm gonna be important some day.

>>170526885
Its not worth it. You'd get the same experience through combining Adventurecraft and All Races Playable, but without the bloat and constant crashes. Up to date too.

>>170527427
what's adventurecraft?

>>170527597
An adventurer crafting/reactions/etc mod which adds a lot of the stuff masterwork does without all the shit of being mastwork.

>>170527597
Adds a bunch of crafting reactions for adventure mode

>>170527717
Heh: >>170527709

>sit here wondering how you'd twirl a metal base wired mechanial 104-key keyboard around
>realize that having smoke to blow off of it would be a bad sign
>then we get to the really tricky problem: how to holster a keyboard

>>170527709
>>170527717
does anything funky happen if I add it to my game and play off of old saves?

I want to play adventure mode but play without an objective is boring, someone want to donate their fortress so I can siege a real fortress for myself?

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>>170524839
eh, your dwarves, and more exactly, this game, is far beyond that point of hostility towards other sentient races

>>170528643
Can't add it to old saves, reactions can't be changed, but you can keep playing old saves without the mod in the same df install just fine, I've got various mods which I only keep apart for convenience when moving/removing/adding around.

>>170529143

In the grim age of myths, there are only war

>Picture of bulgy dwarf impaling 10 goblins on a pike while ripping the nose of a elf with his teethes. the blood flows into the grates below awakening the eldritch demons

How do you guys plan your fort?
My forts tend to become extremely inefficient after the 3rd immigrant wave

>>170529751
Can I get a link to a download? I can't seem to find a working link from google

>>170529143
DF worlds were always so fragile, a small world with less people than in one of our cities. Reading about all the wars is depressing.
There's barely any of you around, stop killing each other.
DF is like the final stages of a long downward spiral. Small wonder even the children need alcohol to get through the day.

>>170529865
>planning a fort

I just wing it till I die

>>170530023
I think of small worlds as more like fragments of a much larger one than all there is. Like, maybe a few hundred miles across the sea there's another, larger continent, but this is the one I'm stuck on and so I have to deal.

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>>170530023
it's getting better

>>170529865
Depends on the fort. Sometimes I don't even plan it, others I spend hours drawing it, measuring professions x migrants and other things.

>>170529865
>How do you guys plan your fort?
With the knowledge that the end result won't be like my plans anyway, so generally I just have vague ideas and goals.

>>170530160
Sure, and that's even easier on island worlds. A bit harder though when you can see both polar caps.

Don't soldier angels wear any body armor? While I'm glad the ones I've met had only gauntlets, boots and helms on, I would like a mail shirt made of divine metal.

>>170529936
Can't get to the forums atm myself.

>>170529865

I usually sit down in my planning room and calls my mason buddy and carpenter friend

then we start drawing on a blueprint and use a chalkboard for ideas and complex room build

At one fort we had this elaborate sewage planned and it took weeks to get it as realistically as possible.
It usually take 4 to 5 days to plan a basic fort of 5 levels with room for 200 dwarfs'

we usually just wing the pastures and farm levels

at the last fort we had a aqueduct leading from the outside and down into the fort

>>170530236
I make all my worlds in advanced worldgen so I just set it to only one cap.

Its kinda weird there aren't a refugee system in Df, considering the constant wars

it would be fun to have a huge refuge camp outside the fort to crack down on

>>170530559
Somehow I actually believe you

>start adventurer
>LEFT HANDED

TOADY

>>170530894
you can switch hands whenever you want.

>using tile/graphics sets
>using therapist or any other baby mode utilities
>resizing the window
>using recolors
>using mods
>turning off the music

i sure hope none of you do this

>>170531038
I will do it all from now on.

>>170531032
BUT I HAVE TO SWITCH HANDS EVERY TIME I PICK UP A WEAPON

>>170531038
Yeah? Well what are you going to do about, huh?

>>170531038
I use a different colour scheme but default tileset
I play vanilla
nope
I modded my dwarves to be able to craft all weapons
I listen to vidya game music from stuff I played as a kid

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>>170531038
I use comfy set
I use true CGA colours
I play full screen for extra immersion
I make some minor tweaks in the raws to keep things interesting
I turn off the music and listen to background music instead (usually 80's italo disco or house)

HOWEVER
>I do NOT use therashit

>>170531143
basically, when you pick something up with empty hands, you'll always use the left hand.

if you want to hold the weapon in your right hand, you should drop everything, then pick up the shield and the weapon in that order. that way, the weapon will end up in your right hand.

you guys with beefy processors, if you generate a large world with medium history, medium everything else, at which year the game drops below 1 fps?

year 102 here, amd a8 6600k (shitty old APU)

>>170531409
>strap weapon to body
>draw them
>now back to where I started

just admit this is a minor yet horrible design flaw that only exists because Toady is a stunted left hander and couldn't bother to make the distribution of right/left handedness realistic and actually reflective of reality with 90% of people actually using the right god damn hand

>>170531485
also, i'm NOT implying my processor is beefy at all

>>170531485
I usually can't go above 120 without it bogging down to a crawl and I have a 7700k

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Give me a name for my fortress.

It's going to be fancy af.

>>170531591

Fort Starbuck

>>170531590
that's sad to hear, looks like old large worlds are still far from our grasps

>>170531576
>this severe autistic screeching over nothing

>>170531576
>wah wah why doesn't toady pander to my specific demographic
listen here bud. I'm left handed myself, but you don't see me go full SJW every time someone makes a right-hand-centric game.

cry all you want, but I doubt changing preferred hands in adv mode is high up on Toady's priority list.