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Reminder to report namefags.

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>>170321932
I'm basically AA2with 500 wins. I dunno what my win % is but I assume at least 50% so I'd say if you're really good, you might be able to get there in 500-700 games if you keep that up.

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>>170322037

>>170322117
Hi, do you think you can take off your name? I really want this general to get off to a nice start and I know it's not going to if you keep that on.

Thanks :)

http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077

I wanted to post thicc but no neutral images and didn't want to bias the poll.

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>>170322037

Someone check the pastebins to see if there's no Discord in there.

Please post cute pictures of Eris or Havencraft girls

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>>170322265

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>>170322265

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I miss Rage of Bahamut

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Post deck names

>>170322138
kill yourself

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>>170322265

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>>170321582
>because it was always the standard for the OP before Discord started to mess with it

Actually I made the first short OP.

History time.
Months ago I started to notice that the OP was getting cluttered as new tools were being created, like the golds compilation, take2 guides, etc, one day I even noticed that we were using the max limit for words in the OP.
So one day I made a short OP with the essentials still up there and the niche things in a pastebin.
The problem is that someone started to include Discord links inside the pastebin and people moved into the thread without knowing.
Then after some posts people would notice and the threads went to shit sperging about it.

Clearly someone got an agenda which includes shitposting this general into oblivion, probably as revenge because he is salty as fuck for some reason.
Probably someone from /hsg/ getting back for the cunnyverse shitposting or probably a wanna be "troll" from other general or plainly new at this trying to have fun at the expense of you guys.
He may or may not even in the Discord group, but uses Discord as a means to trigger you all anyway.

That's why I insist on everyone starting to use filters and ignore people with names/trips.

>>170322076
Stop caring? You don' have to keep up dude.

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>>170322037

>>170322265
>t-this isn't shitposting guys
How? It's like going to /a/ and mocking it, which happens a lot 89% of its traffic.

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>>170322265

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>tfw you get two Matriarchs out
I fucking love this card

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>legendary desert rider

What does cygames mean by this?

>>170322332
Can't you just play it in jap? They had a whole picture guide to the ui iirc

>>170322352
Ignoring a tumor doesn't stop it from growing, metastasizing, and killing the patient you fucking idiot.

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Which leader should I masturbate to tonight? I was thinking Forte but Hag is kind of a favorite of mine because she reminds me of my mom. Any thoughts? No lolis, because I'm not a pedophile.

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>>170322426
Is that a dragon or a vampire?

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>>170322076
>tfw was burning out a month ago when the game was nothing but roach and daria
>didn't think i'd ever enjoy playing again
>1 week after the nerfs and i already have more ranked points than i got last month

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Am I considered mid master yet? I want my opinion to be relevant.

>>170322450
desert rider is a 4/3 nigger

it's a goliath

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Play cunnycraft.

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>>170322473
Bloodhungry Matriarch absorbs her prey.

>>170322464
>fapping to your mother
um anon how about Forte

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>>170322464
>Eris will never be your mom.

>>170322450
Desert Rider is a neutral card anon :^)

>>170322450
Nice pseudo-ward card.

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>>170322335

>>170322450
Theoretically class cards should always be better than neutral cards. That doesn't always apply because some class cards really suck.

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>>170322181
I want to FUCK that.

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Reminder aggro shadow is way worse than aggro sword

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>>170322464
>Not fapping to sword bitch and elf slut
It's how you get back at them for ruining your games

>>170322450
It's midrange spirit cycle tempo shadow support that lets you gamble on what removal they took while you play 7/6 in 2 bodies on t6 onwards though you also get value all along her combo curve. I don't think it's an earthshakingly strong card but it'll help with all the high-shadow effects and we may see an upswing in ghoul's banquet and ethereal form value trades

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>>170322532
Oh, nice. I wonder if she's made of a bunch of current cards.

>>170322450
Why Shadow mains are so ungrateful and autistic?

>>170322450
It's a Goliath you mong.

>>170322641
They've been handed everything to them on a silver platter since the game came out, they don't know any better. Spoiled little brats, just like the loli they worship.

>>170322512
>Running Latham instead of Knight Samurai Lesbian Maid

Your opinion will never be relevant

>>170322464
Why not Eris and Forte having fun together?
Forte could cast Dragonification on herself but doesn't have enough play-points for it so the transformation goes incomplete and she only grows a dragon's dick. Then Forte and Eris can have half-dragon-girls babies together.

>>170322537
please never post this gross fanart ever again

>>170322352
>That's why I insist on everyone starting to use filters and ignore people with names/trips.
Oh. And how do I ignore or filter reaction images being used over and over by the same persons? How make newfags aware of it? The Name field is the latest of /vg/ problems.

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Would you hatefuck Dorothy?

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>>170322335
why though

>>170322764
Daria is for Ogler's use only.

>>170322764
I'd hatefuck her with a bang and a boom!

>>170322602
How well do you think a deck around dropping guardian golems and stat boosting them will hold out. Close out with pascale board, grea pressure or dragonbond cantrips enough to win?

>>170322450
>turn 7
>minth + pact with the nethergod or voices of resentment
m i n t y

>face a T2 shadow deck with nep, mordecai, 2 khawi's and and at least 1 attendant of night

whose dick do i have to suck and if you're here, did you go 5/5 bro? If you didn't then wtf is wrong with you?

>>170322802
kill yourself dub cuck

>>170322756
>latest
Damnit botnet.

>>170322764
I'd punch her and steal her hat.

>>170322812
... ?

>>170322352
Doesn't stop avatar fags like you.

>>170322812
Don't forget grasp killing for 1pp

>>170322812
>voice of resentment
thats the Enhance 8 card desu

>>170322764

nah no tits

>>170322450
Is she related to Kawaii?

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>>170322812
>minth + pact with the nethergod or voices of resentment
What the fuck am I reading?

>>170322764
Actually yeah probably.

I never thought about it before because I'm typically lusting over Alucard but yeah, I'd hatefuck her.

>>170322812
both of those are enhancement not necromancy you retard

>>170322809
Not well since you probably wont be able to get out golems fast enough, an theres no real way to gurantee the pascale draw or that they wont clear your board

>>170322764
I'd fuck her but there'd be no hate

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>>170322887
I'm a fucking idiot

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>>170323010

it's fine anon, we have all been there

1 PP
Spell
Whenever you play a follower from your hand this turn, draw a card.

Is it balanced?

>>170322987
Evidence of the failure of the public education system?

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>>170323010
You have brought shame to your whole family.

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>>170323010
its fine, it made me chuckle

>>170323078
It'd have to be for a class like Rune who generally doesn't drop many followers. Too abusable for sword or forest, you know?

>>170323078
God fucking no. It's a spellboost cantrip and they can straight up chain draw cantrips to vomit out another 25% more than before. Late game will be absolutely obscene topdecks

Where is that avatarfagging runegirl?

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>>170323078
>Rune gets to vomit out their hand and reload even when they are missing Daria

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>>170323078
Give it to Dragon so they can deck themselves out faster

>>170322764
I want to mating press her and knock her up.

>>170323291
>TotG adds rune cards that adds more cards to their deck while doing burn/draw and spellboost so they don't deck out anymore
>Even more follower s with pp reduction
>Not even haven can destroy board of this magnitude

>>170323078
>Forest has two 0pp Fairies
>play this spell
>two fairies into Tia
I just want to throw up tbqhfam

>Its a Luna drops skull beast or goblin t1 episode

I hate this deck so much

>>170323204
she got sick of the amount of brickheads on this general

>>170322464
Rowen!

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>finally a decent stat ward for everyone else

So how big will this card be in the meta? We talked about Lucius and Teena, but none of that met the expectations post-RoB.

>>170323504
>a deck that runs 9(12) 1 drops
>drop it on turn 1
Really makes you think

>>170323583
>Enchance turn 10

Its a meme dragon card

>>170323583
Good simply because its a ward on 3pp and doesn't need evolve effect to proc.

>>170323583
I'm definitely gonna play this on turn 10 against bahamut.

>>170323583
It's going to be insane
It kills almost any 1-2 drop people will be running while forcing you to use your cheap removal on it or lose your entire board.

And Everybody can take it.

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>>170323583
Hard to say. I think it cucks aggro blood the hardest and really benefits Dragon ramp on paper. Aggro sword should be able to handle it easily, not sure about Shadow aggro.

Anyone have a Cursed General decklist?

>>170323583
good on dragon to take the tempo back outside of that meme

>>170323765
>Shadow aggro

Would run the rabbit necromancer into it, when possible. It's not a big deal at all if that doesn't get to go face.

But who knows if aggro will run some additional new tool or not in ToG.

>>170323765
Aggro Shadow doesn't really care about anything as long as they get to drop Turn 4 Reaper. The ping from Lyrial/AotW/Conjurer is also useful to get rid of it.

>>170323765
God why did they have to give deathmist 2 def and not even target immunity so serpent's force/tamer weren't wastes of pp just why...

Drop the fucking name or leave for reddit or the forums if you want an identity faggot. It's an anonymous imageboard

>>170323863
Me have
Me no post
It old
it work
But shit
Also

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>>170323709
>against
>not WITH

>ramp up
>drop bahamut
>they either remove it or put fellowers
>if they put fellower, drop the wind god dude and wipe the fellowers AND it does face damage to the leader.

So bahamut evolved + this is already 19 time without doing anything else.


Very good for storm ramp dragon.

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>>170323863

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These wins would be much more satisfying if they didnt know i had Alberto in hand already

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>>170323910
>>170323912
Hmm, I see. I'm only lvl 35 Shadow so I'm not too familiar with the way it goes down. What do you think of its effect vs aggro blood though? I feel like it would help control.

>>170324049
Thanks.

Are there fairy decks that don't use fairies?

>>170324105
>lost
How? Just heal you little bitch, You've got Aria and faggot heal alive. Whatte fuckk stupid whore?

>>170324105
>2 maid leader
>didnt know i have albert in hand


MOMMMMMMM UNGA BuNGA

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Hello everyone, I know all of you are upset about the gobu nerf and I'm sure all of you think that Forestcraft is easily the worst class right now, but no, that is wrong. Here you go my fellow forest mains, I introduce you the best Forescraft deck ever made. I call it the cockblockcraft.

>inb4 "Beginner 0?"
No, I've been playing this game since the launch, I've mained Forestcraft since then. I am master rank with over 10k points.

>So what the fuck is the point of this deck? It doesn't look like it has a wincon.
It does have a wincon. I will explain this deck to you right now.

Now, let's take a look at this deck.

>Felpurr Kitten

It's a 2/2 that costs only 1 play point, what's not to love? It's even better than that piece of shit skeleton fighter. Speaking of that card, this deck absolutely destroys any aggro deck, especially aggro shadow since you can just cockblock their reapers.

>Nature's Guidance

This is one of the best Forestcraft cards ingame, no reason not to put 3 copies of this in your deck. You can combo it with:

Forest of Dreams
Fen Sprite
Fortunehunter Feena
Grand Archer Selwyn
Sahaquiel
Forest Archelon

All that is so good.

>>170324328
>Demonic Simulacrum

One of Sahaquiel's Targets, it's a 4/5 for 2 play points. Easily one of the best cards in the game. Also, that attack animation gets my boyclit rock hard. zing zing

>Valkyrie's Spear

You can use this super strong card to feed your Simulacrum even more, or even your Sahaquiel. This is indeed a very strong card.

>Forest of Dreams

Oh man, this card is easily one of the best Forestcraft cards ingame, I don't know why people don't use it. This card will piss anyone off the moment you lay it down. I'd recommend bouncing it when it has only 1 countdown to fuck with your enemies even more.

>Cloud Chorus

Pretty good spell, you can use it on those fairies, that will just turn them into Sandstorm Dragons.

>Fen Sprite

Forest of Dreams wasn't enough? Well then, try this! It's also really good for annoying the fuck of your enemy, they'll smash that mf concede button the moment you play this card right after Forest of Dreams.

>Path to Purgatory

Having a really long game? Only 10 cards left? You know what to do. just lay 2 of these down and watch your enemies squirm.

>Fortunehunter Feena

So much value in one card, don't be afraid to use gobu right away, this card helps you get that 1x Simulacrum easier.

>Dance of Death

Best removal spell ingame, no reason not to put 3 copies in your deck. Nobody expects that 2 damage lethal after they ward up.

>Angel Crusher

Don't wanna use your fairies, but still wanna use a big guy? Well, then, you know what to do.

>Grand Archer Selwyn

Ever wanted to cockblock Bahamut without Mordecai? Well, now you can do it.

>Sahaquiel

Extremely good card, it's the best to use this on simulacrum since it'll gain storm, it's a way better Dark General.

>Forest Archelon

Well, here's the wincon, you use 3 of these back to back, and just keep going face. This just cucks pretty much any deck.


What are you waiting for? Try this amazing deck out right now.

>>170322764
i hate hatefuck and rape so no. femdom only

>>170324328
>I know all of you are upset about the gobu nerf
Guessed wrong. We aren't.

>>170324416
Speak for yourself, I am.

>>170324480
I am sure of that, Forestcuck.

>>170324416
I'm about as upset at the meta post nerf as I was before it. With the new set so close I feel like they could have just waited and see how TotG changed things.

>>170323583
that's 16 damage to all enemies if you charge your crystals

Does Phoenix roost affect Enhance cards?

Sorry for the newfag question.

>>170324687
no

>>170324601
They needed to do some about Daria before the new pack. It may have something to do with Roach and how people play Forest, too.

>>170324601
No, there's no need to wait before patching broken cards like Piercing Rune. Goblin Mage was less obvious, but it was a problematic card down the road, it's a good thing they nerfed it as soon as they did.
If anything, they have shown that they can act swiftly and correctly when a problem arises. Making a mistake is fine as long as you acknowledge it and correct it in a timely manner. Now, we know that we won't have to wait until the next set if another broken card is printed, they can nerf before that if need be.

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>>170324416
Some of us are.

>About to rank up
>Playing around Salamander Breath
>Fucking Conflagration hits instead
Forgot that card even existed.

>>170324328
How do you guarantee the evos for Simulacrum?

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>>170322335
Here you go, I guess.

Please help, need a private match win for daily.

ID 37893

Preferably without a concede for the unique private match reward. Thanks!

>>170324328
>>170324409
epic

>>170324328
>>170324409
>>>/r/shadowverse
this isn't 2012 where simply pretending to be retarded was good enough to get a lot of (you)'s, take your unfunny shitpost and gtfo

>>170325251
how about you kill yourself namefag

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>>170325251
>Namefagging shitposter telling someone else to fuck off to reddit.

The delicious irony.

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Is this some sort of new hot spicy meme?

>>170325103
Thanks

Will ambush ever be good?

>>170325341
It's Neutralcraft, bro. Don't banish his carrot.

ToG will kill the game

>>170324049
Do you have some tips on how to play this deck?

>>170325386
it already is but people are too dumb to build, it also mostly doesn't work in ladder.

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Im never gonna get out of A rank hell

>>170325653
more like it already is but cygames forgot it existed after standard and started printing nothing but unga bunga me go face storm cards

>>170325729
you don't want to
aa is just more stressful

>>170324803
>If anything, they have shown that they can act swiftly and correctly when a problem arises
>roach is still a 2 cost 1/1

>>170325653
>it's good
>it doesn't work on the ladder
I don't think you understand the meaning of "good"

>>170324851
Fuck Vampy, why is she so mean to Gobu?

>>170325927
it's good if you know you're going to face a deck it's good against

>>170325897
As much as you hate the card, Roach isn't a problem. It will limit design space a lot for Forest, but they will most likely never nerf Roach. Same thing for DShift.

>>170325897
roach is literally a shit version of albert

Is Take-Two like Hearthstone arena, where you play against players with similar win/loss records to yours?

>>170326053
>same thing for D Shift
And this is why control will never be an actual archetype in Shadowverse. It's the one reason I can't take the game seriously at all.

>>170324601
>With the new set so close
there is an entire goshdarn month before tempest, most likely
I've been vocal to my hearthstone friends (who have more reason to complain about the meta) that two months is the maximum any meta in a hearthlike should be allowed to persist because of how quickly and thoroughly the playerbase solves the meta - and apparently cygames has a similar opinion given the timing of the nerf. I was resigned to just quitting the game during march, but this might keep me retained, and I'm probably not the only player in that position

>>170326053
>Roach isn't a problem. It will limit design space a lot for Forest
that's a fucking problem, you dolt
the only ways roach survives unnerfed the entire lifespan of shadowverse are 1) the game dies very quickly, 2) it gets rotated out or banned

>>170326132
No, you are just put against someone at random.

>>170326153
Meta for any card games is solved as soon as the entire expansion pack gets revealed.

>>170326132
If you're 4-0 you get matched against a constructed deck for your final game, confirmed by cygames themselves.

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>>170325729
>sword and rune

>>170326153
I wouldn't mind another month of roach and Daria if it meant shitposters like you quitting.

>>170322537
Look at her eyes she is a cyborg

>>170326296
>entirety of RoB gets revealed
>roach still takes like 3 weeks to really explode
sure everyone figured out Daria real fast, but roach took a while.

>>170326296
For the best players, maybe. Takes a while for it to trickle down and for average people to get everything and make their decisions. I can tell you from personal experience (because I was top 10 in games played for my craft when RoB launched) that the first few days of the set saw decklists being inoptimal, play being inoptimal, etc. The first day of Darias hadn't figured out how to be maximum scumbags about face damage, and so on.

>>170326153
Stop shitposting, autist.

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>>170326354
This is a meme, right. RIGHT?!

>>170326296
>>170326376
Do not reply to him, newfag.

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This general moves surprisingly fast

I kind of expected it to be a lot slower given the Twitch viewer count

>>170326625
There are no good SV streamers.

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Should I keep or liquefy? This is my first legendary and I started playing today

>>170326625
The Twitch viewer count is low because most of the big streamers are on Youtube/Niconico/Openrec, and usually in Nips.

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>>170326354
Are you fucking serious?

>>170326658
I don't think there can be. The game is fairly boring to play, let alone watch. It's like Hearthstone with less RNG bullshit--and RNG bullshit is why people watch Hearthstone, along with all the faggot personalities.

>>170326142
Controlfags don't want their 50k deck to be counterable. That's understandable, but you have to realize the notion of "poor match-up" can apply to any deck, control included. Get over it.

>>170326236
The lack of good wincon for Forest besides Roach is the main reason why all Forest decks have to build around the card. It's like all the control decks that don't have their own class wincon play Bahamut or Satan. It isn't Satan/Bahamut's fault, it's the lack of alternative that is the real problem. You don't see Forest play Satan/Bahamut, they have Wolfbolt if they want some lategame finishers.

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concede please

32422

>>170326658
No, it's just that very few people are autistic enough to waste their time watching other people play card games.

>>170326658
The guys with the most views are also REALLY boring.

>>170322701
never be a writer, you will starve

>>170326705
It's not a good pick at high rating anymore because RoB destroys boards with 1-5 health, but where you're at it will be fine, and may even seem overpowered. I'd keep it if you want to play sword.

>>170326776
That's not the problem, and you know it. The problem is that D Shift has a far better winrate against control than any other combo deck. The archetype idea for card games is that combo beats control more than it loses--not that it beats it 9 times out of 10. If D Shift were in line with other combo decks, no one would care.

>>170326747
The english SV streamers have no audience, and most of them play dub if things weren't unwatchable enough.

Nip streamers either don't talk at all or they only say shit like "やばい" or "これはまずい” I have yet to encounter one that has any kind of showmanship.

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>>170326705
Vial
Craft Daria when you can

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which forest sleeves are cuter - yuel (ugly as hell but has a cute tail) or feena (cute to boot but no tail, no ears and also it should have been gobu sleeves, not hers/)?

which would you use?

also i began to play otk only after the nerf and i realized what bs it really had been... i mean a lethal from more than half hp is nearly guaranteed and pretty soon as long as you get 1 roach/0pp gobu and 1 natural guidance or 2 roaches and some tokens, the only problem right now it's to survive early which is hard vs aggro without 1pp and 2pp drops. if they add some good 1-2pp forest/neutral spells the next expansion...

>>170326705
Keep because new expansion coming out this month and it might make it good again. Definitely usable if you are new.

>>170326798
thanks

>>170326910
I think Tempest will be when I finally bite the bullet and dust all my dragon cards. At least I'll get a huge fucking pile of dust out of it.

>>170326910
>6pp 7pp
uhhh

>>170326943
Liza sleeves are the only forest sleeves worth using.

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>>170326909

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>>170326910
Is that the new blood legendary?

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>>170326910
is that fucking dark jeanne?

please be haven, i have a feeling shes gonna go to blood though

>>170326910
>Haven leggo

What fucking part of that artwork is haven.

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>>170326256
>>170326354
Thanks, though I'm not sure how hard I'm being memed.

I got this just now on my second Take-Two, which I'm kind of proud of. I don't know if Stratagem is actually a good card, but it won a lot of games through drawing 3-4 cards.

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>>170327019
tfw my earliest sleeves are kawaii

>>170326989
B-but Discard Dragon will be tier 1, I swear.

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>>170327131
I hate discard dragon so much that even if it WERE tier 1 I'd dust. Hell, that would make me likelier to dust.

>>170326806
>very few people are autistic enough to waste their time watching other people play card games.

I get that you're fucking retarded but you'd also need to be living under a rock since HS is usually the second or third most popular game on twitch.

also
>from namefag to tripfag in 2 threads

>>170327238
Because nobody has cards to play with in Hearthstone.

>>170327186
Might as well dust it all the dragon cards now.

Don't blame me when you get destroy by dragon every other game.

>>170326868
DShift is too consistent, but I think the best way to balance the deck is by powercreeping the control decks. We'll see what ToG can bring.

>>170327318
>Don't blame me when you get destroy by dragon every other game.
Anon you really need to cut back on the drugs, even us addicts are worried for you

>>170327049
>Stratagem

It can be great if the rest of your deck is solid (obviously I guess).

A sword deck with a lot of early followers + things like Avant Blader is insanely strong in T2. Fucking Jeno, Fearless Banneret, Avant Blader, Monika, Noble Knight, Thief, Amelia,, Fangblade, Floral Fencer...

Shadow Assassin (yes), Art of the Ninja, Royal Banner (yes), Koga Kunoichi...

>>170327323
I just don't see how powercreeping control will help. Most powercreep for control will be expensive cards. D Shift wins at 7 or 8. That's why it's such a protracted problem for the meta. If control ever becomes truly meta dominating, everyone will just play D Shift and their winrates will plummet to nothing. Maybe some people see that as an ideal scenario, but to me it just says that Cygames should stop printing cards that cost 7 or more.

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>>170327323
>lower WR than tempo
>gets raped by aggro

>too consistent

>>170320640
You sound like the typical middle-of-the-road neutral guy who doesn't want to pick a side and wants to not be disliked by anyone.

Stop being so childish.

>>170327323
ITS A LITERAL TIER FUCKING 3 DECK WITH A 44% WIN RATE END YOUR FUCKING LIFE YOU DONT KNOW HOW HARD I TRIED TO MAKE THE DECK WORK ITS A COMPLETE PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT D SHIFT IS BAD THERE IS NO MORE DENYING THIS FUCKING NIGGER

>>170327357
Your just being an attention whore, you either vital the cards or don't. Don't say you will vital, when you aren't. That's just being a hypocrite. If you do it don't cry for attention like a little bitch in heat.

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>>170327323
>he can't end dshift before turn 8
>complain they're too consistent

>>170327453
Well, I'll be hated for saying this, but powerful Storm/uninteractive cards can help against DShift. Think Albert/Forte. RoB gave Fervor to Dragon which can help them with the Ramp consistency, on top of giving card draw. That's a great card against DShift. Now, not all Dragon lists want to run 3x Forte, but powercreep might allow 3x Forte and even Eyfa to be played.

>>170327519
You don't know what consistency means. It doesn't mean strong or meta-defining. DShift wants to spellboost Flame Destroyer and DShift and OTK you ASAP. The insane card draw of the deck allows you to do that very often. That's consistency.

>>170326658
I would stream, but I'm not really an entertainer and I don't have enough decks or cards to provide an interesting range of stuff to watch. I also don't think it'd be very enjoyable to watch like the others said.

>>170327678
As it stands, Forte doesn't matter. Control can't ramp quick enough to end the game by turn 7. It just won't happen, even if you are running the storm heaviest version of ramp you can't kill them before they D Shift. You can play face dragon, but that's aggro.

>>170327639
>I don't understand archetypes, the post

>>170327678
Have you ever played Dshift?

You need to have a Dshift in your opener or on your first draw and at least 2 destroyers by turn 3 or 4 if you want to go off on a T8 kill.

It's not nearly as consistent as any aggro deck or most midrange.

>>170326053
it doesn't just limit the design space for forest, it limits the design space for neutrals and makes vengeance a useless mechanic

that one card is ruining one of the game's core mechanics, i'd say that's a problem

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Please give me this, cygames. I need my cute spookies fix.

>>170327757
just do some erotic dance

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>>170327796
>not playing aggro to kill everything by turn 6

>>170327812
Half of your fucking deck is draws

not him btw

>>170327858
is she a snek?

>>170327678
Youre so fucking retarded dude. There is no tutor at all for flame destroyer and the tutor for d shift has like a 20% chance with evolve of pulling it. D shift is a shitty fucking meme deck that works once out of every 3 games when it doesnt get raped by aggro

>yfw sword gets a 1 cost spell to protect all followers from damage for 1 turn for the turn 7 otohime into the new gold

>>170327896
If literally everyone played aggro, you'd just see half the playerbase switch to the stalliest version of Haven and get a 100% winrate, and then we'd be back to where we are now when everyone realized how stupid they were. The problem isn't that D Shift counters certain decks and gets countered by others, it's how binary the matchups are.

http://game-ai.jp/25341/

H-hear my 16 winstreak in the swordcancer meta.

>>170327812
T8 DShift is average and should be expected. The main selling point of an aggro is its consistency (low curve), I won't say that DShift is more consistent than an aggro deck.

>>170327813
Blood is a bad match-up against Forest by design. Bad match-ups aren't a bad thing in itself.

>>170327980
Sure dude.

>>170328126
blood has tons of good cards against forest, like yurius, but it doesn't matter because of roach

>>170328041
Name a card game without binary matchups.

You can't.

>>170327964
That's not the point.

Take a Dshift list and see how many games you get to go off on turn 8.It's less than half and that's only counting games where you even live to t8.

If the meta was slower to the point where you could consistently make it to the double digit turns then drawing your first Dshift on turn 5 wouldn't be such a big deal but as things stand right now but unless your opponent is goldfishing trying to play something like double cache on turn 6 to catch up is suicide against 80% of the field right now.

>>170328090
>Only 4 cards with >=7 cost
This meta is fucking terrible.

any legitimate sword legendaries leaked yet

>>170328295
it's to ensure good pulls with emissary, dweeb

>>170328126
>T8 DShift is average and should be expected.

Even if T8 Dshift was average (which I argue it isn't), with the current meta right now T8 isn't even average.

>>170328315
Nope, looks like cygames is saving the best for last.

>>170328240
Poker

Checkm8

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>>170326910
>6 pp 7/7
i guarantee it's gonna have a shit effect, probably something like beast dominator

>>170328375
I'm not saying it's a bad choice of cards. I'm just saying that a meta that necessitates a dragon deck like that makes me want to puke.

>>170328378
Well DShift is very meta-dependent. And right now, with Sword being very popular, and Shadow/Blood aggro being less countered by ward-heavy decks, DShift isn't a really good deck to play.

>>170328240
Every single one I've played other than Shadowverse? I've never seen a matchup as binary as D Shift. That's just an opinion, but I say this as someone who has played pretty much every online card game, and has access to the cards to play D Shift or any other archetype. It's not that I'm butthurt I can't win, I just find the statistics of win ratios (and losses) of D Shift against different decks absurd.

What counters the current sword decks while also having a good chance against aggro decks?

I've just been playing Daria because I can't play Dragon or Dshift or anything else I find actually fun, and it's doing alright.

>>170328090
Is this actually good?

>>170328487
It ain't going to get any better. Shadowverse is an early version of Yugioh at this point.

>>170328665
Yeah.

Here, dude, ramp into these four (4) cards you got that you can ramp into lmao.

>>170328661
Nah, it has some pretty bad cards in there. The basic idea isn't awful, but I'd guess the guy is at a low rating if he went 16 wins in a row with it.

>>170328645
Control blood with matriarch and yulius. Haven works too but you need some wards.

>>170328661
it's... fine
tends to finish my dailies faster than conventional storm/saha ramp does
gets kinda boring though, just having two haymakers

>>170327894
I don't have a webcam, sorry master

>>170328740
9k master, look at the link at least

Is it just me or are forest decks suddenly playing fucking everything?

I'll be fighting a ptp deck and suddenly die to a 14 damage roach combo. Or fighting a silver bolt deck and suddenly they play ptp.

>>170328818
Okay, well, some of those card picks are pretty strange. If you're running that in ranked I don't even know what to say.

>>170328761
I could buy Haven but doesn't Cblood have a pretty shitty winrate in master's atm?

Or maybe that's just because Dshift has a 60% winrate in master's in the same chart so it's probably very much related.

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>>170326658
Aporo.G is speaks well and plays fun decks, but he only streams on youtube or Openrec.
Some of the Korean streamers are funny but none of you guys probably understand them. There's one guy who I watch occasionally because he is a rich whale with nearly every single animated card and it's nice to see those. When he goes on a pack opening spree I lose all will to open packs so I save up gold easily

>>170328839

>ptp
>not running roach

Newfag? Clearly a newfag.

>>170328852
They are not strange considering the meta, it's about countering the early pressure of the swordshit that everybody plays.

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I need some shadow aggro decklists please, the one I run feels really inconsistent.

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>>170328914
That's my list post-nerf.

>>170328902
>ptp running high damage roach combos
The fuck do you think this is, tempo forest? Have you even played this game?

is it just me or does the game ai site never update anymore?

>>170329007
How new are you?

>>170329007
Roaches go in all forest decks
14 damage isn't even that high, you can easily reach that amount with only two roaches using nature's guidance, which every forest deck also uses

>>170329007
All Forest lists run Roach and the early game package (may, guidance, etc).

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>>170328839
>PtP
Are we in DE? Is the next expansion Rise of Bahamut?

>>170329007

>forestfucker is not allowed to play roach in a deck that generates tons of fairies

Must be great being so new to the tyrant of DE era.

>>170328452
That's actually the evolved statline.

>>170329007
Everyone point and laugh at the dumbass

>>170326910

Any gook reader to at least gives us the names of these cards?

>>170326910
Can anyone translate the names?

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>tfw you finally got that 100 point buffer in AA3

I can't believe it took the entire day just to win twice in a row without dropping down to AA2.

The entire DAY.

>>170329353
>>170329370
From left to right:
Life Steal (Blood), Aina, Phoenix Rider (Dragon), Dark Jeanne D'arc (Haven)

>>170329478
>Dark Jeanne D'arc
Are you sure you're not fucking with me

>>170329092
Running stolen wolfbolt deck without NG and Tias, pretty okay desu. Actually the comfiest bolt i ever played.

>dark jeanne
rip old jeanne, hopefully your dark side is somewhat usable.

>>170329564
>he didn't watch the anime

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>impulse bought 10 packs with gold
Ahhhh

>>170329592
The only one I've heard of is the scrapped GreaXAnna one

To be honest I haven't watched anime since Kaiji

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>>170329564
>>170329592

Our first anime card and it isn't pic related. Color me sad

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Man, I can't believed I never tried Elana before. It's better than any other deck I've tried to climb with. I've been stuck at mid AA3 for about 4 days now, but I've finally done got to the Master Trials.

It's kinda great in this meta of Stormcraft, Diarrhea, and Roachbolt since you can heal back pretty much all the damage they push to face and then you can value trade all day.

It goes without saying that it shuts down Aggro anything pretty hard, and you also have banishes to deal with Nephytits plays and deny Aggro Shadow shadows for howl.

It's also great against D-shit - which was the bane of my laddering experience - because you can just not play any 2 drops until you have a few Elana's and drop them all at once, or just start buffing minions that cost more than 3pp.

I've only got Bahamut'd once the whole climb up to Masters since I guess most people try to mulligan for Odins to counter the Seraph I don't have if they are the kind of decks that run those cards.

I wonder why more people aren't playing this deck? It seems pretty solid all around for this meta.

t. former AA3 scrub

>>170329592
I only read manga

>>170329478
>(Blood)
Really?
That looks very zombie-esque to me

>>170329592
Can give me the spoiler? Or is it something similar to yurius, gone evil, kill some good guys, get redeemed in the end?

>>170329568
Post list?
Tia I can kind of understand removing, but Nature's Guidance is so multipurpose that it's always one of the first cards I will always include when building a forest deck

>>170329724
Look at the gem at the bottom. Shadow is purple.

>>170326776
>The lack of good wincon for Forest besides Roach is the main reason why all Forest decks have to build around the card
Before gobu-roach was possible, people were not building decks around roach.

It's a strong card because
- It provides an alternate win condition any time you assemble pieces for it
-The combo pieces for roach combo are important components of any forest deck, so you sacrifice nothing to include them.
-The roach can be used offensively or defensively, so no deck type loses out

As long as a forest deck has use for bounce+card draw, zero cost fairies, and fairy generators/hand-fillers, roach will work in that deck. So basically it works in literally every forest deck that exists.

>>170329673
Elana is becoming more and more popular. With the gobu/rune nerf, the meta got rebooted and we're back to aggroland. Anti-aggro decks have to be discovered and refined. Elana has been the talk of many threads since the nerf and you're not the first to get Master with it. Congrats for the Master man.

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>>170329783
>Look at the gem at the bottom
WHAT
HOW COME I NEVER NOTICED THIS

>>170329783
What the fuck

Where those always there

It's so fucking tiny what the hell

>>170329726

She gets tricked to shit by Bluebeard, does a bunch of evil shit, then some homo angel dies for her and she gets HEALED

Gross waste of screen time

>>170329673
My experience playing aggro against Elana is that if they drop the amulet on curve they actually die from the tempo loss.

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>>170329638
shingeki no bahamut: genesis

none of the main characters are shadowverse cards yet but there are plenty of recognizable ones like pic related, hamsa, cerberus, azazel, gabriel, satan, zeus, bahamut, etc

it's pretty good for an anime based on a card game world

>>170329726
some demon guy tricks jeanne's people into betraying her, and she's sentenced to death, and the angels are too busy dealing with bahamut, so she forsakes them and becomes demon-y for a while

>>170329840
I'm not implying that Forest will completely drop Roach in a list focused on another wincon. The card is very good to trade big followers too, it's a Storm card after all, it's versatile.

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>>170329726

Just your usual waifu chinese cartoon.

>>170329673
post dick

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>spoiling things when you will have eternity to figure out everything in less than a month
you faggots don't know how to enjoy anything

>>170329918
>Demon guy
You missed the whole plot. Gilles is human, and he plays literally every one else, from the demons, to the angels, to the humans. He literally just wanted to watch the world burn by freeing Bahamut.

>>170329848
I see. I've only just discovered it myself and it has kind of reinvigorated my enthusiasm to climb again.

>>170329905
I don't drop Elana on curve against Aggro at all. mostly mulligan for pleas and Baldy/Lions

>>170329673
Share dick, I'm interested.

>>170329996

>not wanting to know the new cards before release so you can theorycraft

I bet your a shitter who just netdecks anyway. Fuck off.

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>>170329748
Original list runs third whisperer instead of dungeon, i had great experience with her so far, so i made that change.
stole it from prepcoin_nl at twitch

>>170329996
Seeing new cards before the entire set comes out is the best part. You can test your judgement on new cards that you can't playtest.

>>170329996
Spoiling what exactly

>>170330059
wasn't he directly working under some demon guy that wanted to control bahamut or whatever

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>>170330092
any deck you will theorycraft will be fucking garbage
because 99.99% of people here is trash
just patiently wait and stop spoiling shit.
>>170330135
cards

>>170330171

>he cannot theorycraft, therefore everyone else can't

My homebrew got 65% over 100 games. Bite me.

>>170329996
>>170330171
fuck off retard

>Lost a game because "Connection unstable"
What is this shit

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>>170330224
>he cannot theorycraft
you are just shitting up the thread with you nonsense, it's even worse than fucking namefag because at least i can filter him
fuck off and die

>>170329673
>Think of trying Elana too because I fight aggro and sword all day
>Never played Haven because I'm new and haven't crafted any cards for it
>I actually have 3 Elanas out of packs
>Only had to craft 3 bronzes and 2 silvers for a netdeck list
Everything went better than expected.

Time to lose horribly and refine this to be worse than it was because I have no idea what I'm doing.

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>>170329898
>>170329918
Oh well, that's what I expected. Was personally hoping for some tentacles involvement.

>>170330105
>All these 1x
>Feena and Goblin Mage with that many other 2 PPs and 1 PPs
>Fairy Knight
But why

>>170330137

He was pretending to be obedient to further his personal agenda.

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>>170330059
Fucking Gilles

>>170330293

>pretending to be retarded

If you hate spoilers, why don't you go hide in you're hole until April? No one is stopping you from cutting connections with the outside world.

>>170330137
No, watch the last episode again. He tricked Belzebuth (red demon guy) into thinking he can control Bahamut to overthrow Luci as Satan's second in command. He's a human Alchemist/Sorcerer who can turn others into demons (including himself) which is how he was able to make Dark Jeanne, and how he was able to convince the demons to join his plot. He's Gilles de Rais basically.

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>gee Erika. How come you can have 3 ALBERTS.

>>170330367
>If you hate spoilers, why don't you go hide in you're hole until April?
because that's not me that shitting up the thread, it's faggots like you that pretend they are good at anything other than copying netdecks and being a metaslaves.

>>170330381
>He's Gilles de Rais basically.

I'm pretty sure he was exactly Bluebeard, he just was hiding his true name so that the viewers wouldn't figure it out too easily.

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>>170330171
You're right, we should go back to fighting about Vania/Vampy and posting dead memes.

>>170330445

>he has to resort to name-calling

Kindly fuck off or put up a name so I can filter you.

>>170329592
This game has an anime?

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>>170330540
>Oppai Luna

>>170330351
>>170330381
if he's a human that's working for demons and is able to turn himself into a demon, i don't think it's unfair to call him a "demon guy"

he has his own agenda sure, but demons are the ones he's most closely associated with

>>170330474
They're more or less one and the same
Gilles de Rais was the inspiration for Bluebeard

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Someone on plebbit posted this.
Anyone?

If I had to guess with the values, it does the same thing as Jeanne d'Arc, but grants +2/+0 instead of +0/+2 to your board.

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>>170330594
>He didn't watch I'M WAITING FOR THE SUNRISES AGAIN

>>170330652
Fuck, at least she cost cheaper now.

>>170330594
no, it's technically based on rage of bahamut. but that's like comparing hearthstone and warcraft, they have the same characters

and aside from the characters it has nothing to do with card games, so it might as well be shadowverse-based

>>170330652
At 6 cost I suspect the first line is a downside. Maybe 2 damage to all ally followers or something.

>>170330704
It wouldn't be surprising. That is, if that screenshot isn't fake.

Do anyone have a template for the hottest Albert Sword?

>>170330652
It's just the usual Jeanne effect but health buff swapped with attack

>>170330652
these guys are talking about the cards
https://www.twitch.tv hungrytv2017

>>170330605
He's also a very high ranking knight, and spends more time as a knight captain than as a demon. He wasn't working for anyone, because the plot was entirely his doing. He didn't simply goad Belzebuth into it, he straight up came up with the whole thing. Even Amira was his idea. So, yes, I'd say it's important to distinguish him from the demons, because he's literally not a demon, and the demon faction works against his plot.

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>>170330575
>muh feelings

>>170330758

>valhallan general already starts packing after one expansion

Nice game, shadowbabs.

>>170330792
Watch out anon Obama might have wiretapped your house.

>>170330342
Im hot exactly thinking of those as of 1x.
There are 4 evo cards, 4 hand size cards, 5 combo followers, cards that help you keep your hand size and/or draw into stuff without evo like whisperer, gobu, wings and knight.
Sure gobu roach pull not guaranteed, but still worth a try.

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>>170330652
>2 damage AoE + attack buff on 5/5 body for 6 mana
>mfw Blood Hungry Matriarch power creeped already
>Blood's best legendary is still a mediocre 4/4 that I wouldn't run in a single other craft

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>>170330746
Here you go.

>>170330652
Why do I have the feeling that they felt bad the original Jeanne ended up being so shitty so they had to make a better version to keep the character relevant?

>>170330898
>Blood's best legendary is still a mediocre 4/4
Hey now, it's 6/6 spread across three bodies. Get it right!

>>170330770
when speaking to somebody who doesn't know anything about the show, it's not important to give this much detail

i'm not going to explain the entire plot just to let somebody know what dark jeanne is, i just gave a brief recap based on what i remembered

i'm sorry that i've offended you by it being less than perfect

>>170330915
He is pretty hot, no homo.

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>>170330847
>USA is the only country in the world
nice burger logic
now go back to your shitty circlejerk site

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>>170330758
Damn, card is crazy. Thanks.

What about this one? Same shit, posted on plebbit

>>170330951
>Doesn't know anything about the show
The original guy spoiled the ending, I wouldn't call that "knows nothing about the show".