/parag/ - Paragon General

nice game balance ebin games

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>>170224719
character with cute feets when?

>>170226004
What are you talking about, Grux is already in game

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>>170226064
grux needs a pedicure

New hero when?

>>170227457
#every3weeks

>>170227457
Next Tuesday

hey is this the paragon general?

>>170228048
no, this is Patrick

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>>170228048

yes sir it is! Autism to the left and rage to the right.

Just finished a game where we had a Kallari go mid. Does nothing early on, then when the enemy team is familiar with her shenanigans and all have shadow wards, she's trying to initiate. At one point, the Kallari says "its so gay they are grouping for everything"We lost.

Played a great Kwang though. Srarted out 4-0-0 and was landing double and triple swords.

>>170229354
narbash buff when?

they need to add "total card power" on the totals column near the bottom when you hit tab.

>>170231478
huh?

>>170232519
I think he wants to see a team's overall CP, like K/D/A are now.

>>170231476

a half-decent narbash is a huge asset. as i said in the previous general, patience and positioning are big on ogrelucio.

what do you think needs to be buffed? imo mana drain on regen is pretty harsh.

>>170234656
scaling on heath should be changed to make him more bulky

more like paragay lol
n.n

>>170238250
Fuck you faggot.

>>170238285
paragay players like to fuck faggots confirmed here ladies and gents :3

I've never seen an image of this game that isn't an obvious bullshot.

>>170238486
Excuse me? The game truly does look fantastic. I don't think there really are any bullshots of it anywhere.

>>170228048
Why does your trip look familiar?

>>170238486
I haven't seen an actual bullshot of the game, mind showing me one? Like, I actually want to see a bullshot, I'm not just fucking with you

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>>170239830
i wasn't the first but i started making the general 10 months ago. I ended up stopping because the threads would auto sage.

Pic is the first /parag/ to hit 750

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>>170239305
>>170239942

So you're telling me these are actual graphics?

>>170240449
Ah yeah, I remember you. I remember your trip now, NA Player or something on Discord? My memory is a bit foggy so that might not be the same person but if you were, either way, you're alright, welcome back friendo.

>>170240509
Not sure if you're G but yeah, that's not a bullshot, you can get that stuff with maximum settings on PC as far as I've seen. However, that's on our old map which had a lot more detail and care given to it while Monolith was rushed and very uncooked.

>>170240891

Wow. I can't believe it. I've never played a game with graphics that actual before. Thanks for earnestly answering my question. I will definitely give Paragon a shot now.

>>170238486
desu I would really like to see what a bullshot of paragon looks like

>>170242365

They take some artistic license in the trailers with extra effects and animations not in the game.

Who's slightly hyped for new hero reveal tommorow?

Also anyone playing today?

>>170245317
id be playing if my mmr werent high enough to justify 30 minute queues excluding dodges

>still no legacy map option
fuck monolith
dead game dead general

>>170245317
I just stacked with my irl friends and we got fucked up by 2 diamonds and 2 plats. I'm having a break.

if you play this game
kill
you
are
selve

>>170251441
ok

Is the game as dead as this general? And if the game really is dead, is it any fun and worth putting time into??

>>170252881
nope

>>170252881

game is fun if you have friends.

Time to play Paragon and do push ups in between timers

>>170245317
Where's the hero teaser though, someone post it

>>170254150
And what if i dont? Also even if the game have a low playerbase, it feels just as dead when you are in a game, like playing with only bots nobody is talking at all... Im just burned out on every other fucking game at this point desu...

>>170256090
I spam obscenities every game

>>170254150
every game is fun with friends

>playing literally support countess
>enemy team always up my asshole
>get dekker howi combod or chased by all 5
>i have 7 deaths and literally only shit out damage for peel ward and push
>each time enemy team focuses me my team obliterates them
>can't stop laughing
Lata dekker mains

>>170240449
It says 735

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>win game as belica 9/1/10
>get loot crate key after
Aw yeah

Going to play Khaimera for the first time wish me luk

>>170252881
Game itself is pretty alive, It's just the general that's slow

Patch notes for v.38.2 up on the site. Skin variations are here boys, lookin good too

>used to wonder why Howitzer always 1 shot me when I was low
>R2000 missile scaking 1.3 power
Daily reminder to read hero abilities or you'll end up dead like me

Everyone's always busy on Mondays

>Skin variations are separate skins and not included with the skin itself
Bravo Ebin Games, you've done it once again.

>>170266306
Not very exciting, I'm not really one to care about skins except maybe the really awesome ones like Undertow Gideon or something but the general cost of skins isn't worth the money.
$10 for 1 cosmetic item? Pfft
Hopefully, we'll see more exciting shit next patch with the addition of the new hero.
A new game mode would blow my fucking cock off though, something like Arena in Smite or a smaller team-map would be fucking great. I remember I only exclusively played Joust in Smite, if they added something like that, I'd be humping my screen. That's probably a ways off but I'm excited to see what's next.

>>170267950
Meanwhile free loot crates and keys

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>>170240767
Yeah NA Player, Doctor whatever his name removed me from the discord one day randomly. Not sure why

>>170270793
Literally who

>it's a Kallari main epsiode

Where is everyone seriously

>>170270793
Oh that's cool, a few of the people on the Discord were loudly autistic and sucking on Tallis' wiener but a couple of you guys were pretty cool. Hopefully, if we ever do set up another Discord, it won't be like the last one.

>>170276941
I'm at school. Where are you?

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i'm awake anon.

i really want to play dekker but i can't trust my carries, so I play jungle. rampage is too easy, so I play kwang or grux.

>>170280792

follow-up question. when should i be clearing raptors as grux? OP?

>>170280792
I'm always teribbly afraid of trying out new heroes, I always fear I will completely suck with them for the first time. I don't even care about ELO, I just don't want to fuck up the game for rest of my team.

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>>170281036

i typically do one or two bot games to get a feel for a hero. i did not do this with dekker because I was feeling spicy. pic related, first game with her.

That being said, you can only learn very basic things in coop v ai. When I try to practice jungle, some shitlord that is brand new to MOBAs will "help" me, or the AI will suicide walk into my jungle.

who are you considering playing? teams go auto-toxic if you even softpick iggy or serath. i think serath can work as a jungle, but her lack of cc makes my dick soft.

>>170281437
Well, I'm talking more generally, right now I consider trying out Sevarogg and perhaps Seraph as well. I'll probably just wait until I'll have an opportunity to play with some friends.

>>170281738
Meant Serath obviously

>>170278618
Heading out to work

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v38-2-release-notes
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v38-2-release-notes
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v38-2-release-notes
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v38-2-release-notes

ebin games does it again

>>170286041
>boy look at all these new skins :^)))))))))
just kill me senpai

>>170286041
Will at least basic skins have their variations unlocked? They won't, will they?

>>170286041
Well there will probably be more stuff when the new Hero comes

Bump. Amerifats, where are you?

>>170266141
tell that to high gold and plat past 11 pm est. ive played games with the same 6 people mixmatched across teams and over 5 games in a row

>>170267953
the $10 skins are the same value as most other moba skins. the issue is the ones that cost more and less, im not paying 7 dollars for a recolor
i lied

>>170294820
Playing better games.

>>170286041
>nothing for sevarog
kill me

>>170295193
Well I play on European servers which I think have more players than american ones. I also rarely play this late, although even then I don't usually have trouble wih finding games

>>170295838
for me once the sun sets queues can be upwards of 10 minutes and then followed by mass dodging. can take almost an hour some days to even get a game going

>>170295927
Damn man, this sound almost like back in the closed beta. For me queue time hardly ever extends one minute or 2-3 when I play really late.

Be thankful you aren't in OCE lads. I always have to wait 5 minutes for a game and I play against the same people all the time.

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>>170296304
it only gets worse higher up

dunno how you fucks went 2 hours without a post but 15 minutes after mine we're page 9

first time playin paragon
coming from diamond 2 in LoL
any tips on who to play and how?
tried aurora she kinda sucked desu
her E is shit like noone will walk into it
q is kinda buggy or idk how to use it
what do i spend my in game money on? champ mastery?
i got 550 of that other currency can i get more than that by playing or do i have to pay for 1000 gold skins?

>>170297984
Jeez, you weren't kidding. /vg/ activity must have spiked: guess the kids are out of school on some continent or other.

>>170299114
aurora is literally the most broken character in the game because everyone that plays this shit is retarded
>2 aoe cc moves
>2 dashes

>>170299114
https://agora.gg/heroes

>>170299114
Spend in game money (reputation) on card packs so you can make better decks

Aurora is actually a really strong character, you have to get right next to the person and use that move so they can't escape it, rather than trying to get them to run into it.

Maybe try someone who is similar to the role you mainly played in League?

>>170299114
E is better used up close. Stand right next to someone and they're stuck there for your team to destroy. You can also put it in front of minions to delay them since they won't dodge it.
Spend reputation on card packs to start out.
You get free coins occasionally, but they're pretty rare. I just spend them on crates/keys.

>>170299567
i play ranged toplaners with ignite that bully people like urgot jayce quinn etc
no hero like that i guess

Crossplay was a mistake.

>>170299790
Not playing LoL, is toplane an "easier" or "harder" lane there?

>>170301571
Literally the only problem with it is people who keep on whining about it.

>>170301734
Every time I see an adc who can't land snap autos, I die a little inside.

>never knew there was a Paragon General

Well, fuck me. Happy to hear it.

So Aurora going to be permanently in the meta from now on? And is there any reason to go power when literally everyone just builds for crit and power?

>>170301926
I play on PS4 and I just don't play ranged carry anymore.

>>170256090
It's because most of the player base is on PS4 and, for some reason, Epic still hasn't added a chat, voice or text, that isn't the confusing quick chat.

>>170302083
The general is on for almost a month already I think. It's rather slow though. Write downyour nickname and game schedule so it can be added to pastebin if you want to play with other anons.

As for Aurora people start to learn how to counter her bullshit and it's rather easy to do if you actually know what you're doing, so I doubt she really will be in the meta.

>recolors of skins added to crate

it's over

they're going full jew

>>170302581
Not being able to use rep on recolours of skins you already own is pretty sad desu

>>170299790
There's not really a top-lane in Paragon since the maps are mirrors of each other. If you play range top, then you're best bet is Howitzer either in left or mid lane. So what would be the oppenent's "bot lane" actually goes up against your top lane. Howitzer basically has a shit load of wave clear since all his attacks do splash damage.

>>170302767
Im not too keen on other mobas. which lanes in Paragon are which in regards to other games? would right lane be bottom?

>>170302767
is that rumble?
>>170301607
in LoL its 1 1 2 and 1 jungle so not 2 v 1 like here
guess ill just go mid
can you play physical dmg midlaners?

why does dekker looks so much like belica

>>170302581
Keys drop now

also the game is free

fucking millennials reeee

>>170305178
She doesn't. Dekker is hispanic while belica is white. They have very distinct faces.

I want to play Khaimera but I'm at the stage where my games are serious now
Sux

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>have incredibly long day
>get fucked over in regard to public transport on one of the coldest nights of the year so far
>come home, get up to my freezing room to play one (1) game of Paragon before bed
>friend is online, spend an hour talking to them instead
>get into a draft: Iggy troll fucking with people
>dodge/ lose connection(?)
>play is greyed out because connection is deciding to shit the bed
>restart computer
>draft
>Iggy and Riktor
>whatever, just give me a fucking game
>loading
>lost connection to server
>20 minute ban
>load smurf account
>Paragon.exe has stopped working

>>170305501
Dekker is Chinese m8.

>>170308914
Just go to bed, it's comfy and warm

so LoL guy here
tried a game of Crunch cause he reminds me of Vi
Do inhs respawn after theyre taken down?
Where can you see stats like armor and dmg and stuff?
In LoL you can stack penetration and it always works even if say enemy has 40 armor and u got 50 pene it calculates it like the enemy has -10
Is this the same with Paragon or does it become useless after 0?
Shouldnt there be an indicator of Crunches passive stacks so you know when the ability will be empowered?

>>170309637
Inhibitors don't respawn.

As far as individual heroes, the best place is the wikia. If you mean in-game, on the right side of the card shop menu.

I don't believe pen is useful after you meet armor, but you'd have to dedicate a lot of card points into pen to even get close to that.

There is. Look at Crunch. His jets fire up and he has a red glow.

>>170309637

Inhibs don't respawn. They do repair gradually while they are standing.

Stats are on card screen. Press G.

Pen doesn't go over armor into negatives, however, there is inherent hero armor to consider. Pen and armor are both mostly shit to build though.

Crunch does have a visual indication of stacks, but you have to look at the actual graphics instead of some sub-actual HUD that isn't there. It's pretty clear. Anyway, it's every third ability used, and you can keep the chain for several seconds (unsure how many exactly) between abilities.

It is best to mix basics between abilities, because if you time the press right you can cancel animations and get speedier DPS. Just focus on the actual graphics and you will understand.

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I love silver league.

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>>170312204
Lmao

>>170312204
Looks like you belong in bronze m8

>>170312414
That's not me retard.

>>170312446
you sound upset

>>170312446
haha calm down dude it was just a prank lmao

how the fuck was I supposed to know

>>170312625
I just got out of an hour long game with someone who can't play the easiest character.

>>170312712
I thought it was obvious I was complaining about shit teammates.

>>170312826
I wonder if he's having fun. To lose that many games in a row, multiple games with 0 kills, it must become grating after a while.

>>170312958
I really don't know. You'd think he would at least try a different hero or something.

>>170312204
>being silver in the easiest moba to exist

>>170312204
>2 assists across 7 games
>0 kills over 3 hours of not even participating in the game
>50% kill participation on the second to last with one assist
good fucking lord

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>decide to play Rampage jungle
>minding my own business, farming my jungle early in the game
>Aurora dies
>Aurora dies
>Aurora dies
>Sparrow and Dekker are arguing because they're blaming each other about having no map awareness
>Lt. Belica dies
>pretty sure this was gonna be another quick loss
>our Dekker initiates a team fight with her ult only for us to be countered with Aurora's ult and enemy Dekker's ult
>enemy destroys everything in their path to our core
>we respawn, push em back
>game goes on with the enemy team having an advantage, our Sparrow being retarded
>we start synchronizing, expect for Sparrow
>we start winning
>our minions get a core
>we're picking them off one by one but haven't won a big team fight yet
>final ten minutes of match
>we hit it off with a great initiation sending them back
>we pull back
>Sparrow and I take OP
>group up back at mid
>pick the remaining enemies off their base
>take OP
>one hour, nine minutes, three seconds
Jesus fuck, I'm so glad we won that game, the comeback was real
fuck that Sparrow though, he was a prick all game
funny thing is, I've queue'd with him as a random, and he sucks ass whenever I play with him
also, Hunter's Guile on Rampage is a blessing, thought it was huge meme for squishy heroes but it's great on him too

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>>170315723
>jungling in general as sevarog
>offlaner aurora asks for a gank
>its 2 minutes in
>she loses her turret at 4 minutes and dies at the same time
>check enemy laners
>grim and fucking riktor

is twinburst one of the shittier heroes in the game? are there any ranged carries worth playing? what level do you need to be for ranked? i didn't remember seeing an option.

>>170315984
No Twinblast is eh. Sparrow and Murdock are better, Grim is worse.

Ranked isn't in the game yet.

>>170315984
ranked isnt in yet but agora.gg is a substitute as it functions like a proper elo system

>>170315984
There is no ranked, people just play the game like it's ranked
TB is decent, he's the worst carry imo but he's not that bad, he's usable
Murdock and Sparrow are the prime picks for carries
>>170316129
don't listen to this dude, Grim is amazing in the right hands but requires the most amount of skill
I'm not a fan of playing ranged carries but if I had to play one, it'd be Murdock, he's pretty fun

>>170316129
>>170316367
sparrow is the one with long ranged skillshots? i tried murdock a bit and he seemed easier. it could be TB's dogshit excuse for a dash that made kiting hard but it seems like melee heroes will just dump on you in this game.

>>170316165
thanks

>>170315984
Twin's great, fgt: he was the most popular carry for a month after Monolith's release until meta gravitated towards Murdock. After Murdock was nerfed, he saw a brief resurgence in popularity until Sparrow became the carry of choice. Twin's always been a solid choice since Monolith dropped, you just need to get good. Lv5 for pvp.

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>>170286041
that's it i'm finished with this game

>>170317009
what, do you want the art team to just sit with their thumbs up their butts while the devs are working on the game?

Goodnight fahggots

>>170318634
damn that's a sick non-sequitur

>>170319901
I know right? Really though, obviously Epic is saying this because they're excited about their new skins and they want people to buy them shits. It's a line used to get the fan base just as excited as they are.

Whether or not it works is a different story but it is what it is.

ded

>>170320103
what are you even talking about lmao

>>170322329
I'm keeping the thread alive. Why aren't you grilling right now?

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can you fucking retards learn how to NOT DIE? it's the simplest fucking concept, yet you fail to do so every fucking game!

just finished a game with a "support aurora" who did a full fucking crit build. didn't even buy wards. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

>>170322389
why would i be

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>all these people that build sevarog as a full tank

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>>170322440
>all these people who play sevarog

>>170322440

1 spiked boneplate and 1 thorned greenweave with 3-2-2 armor is all you need to become a god.

sometimes i go with madspore sash for armor instead.

>>170322431
because it's time to get serious
>>170322567
sevarog is a god champion

>>170322567
>>170296552
you got a problem with sevarog punk

>>170322567
Sevarog is a solid pick, don't know what you're upset about.

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>>170322653
>>170322670
>>170322745

>>170322653
>>170322670
>>170322745
>>170322440

is there anyone else whose armor changes as they accumulate stacks like he does with siphon? tbqh i didn't notice it until my fourth or fifth game with him.

>>170322892
nobody else has stacking mechanics

>>170323000
shinbi does you FUCKING IDIOT

>>170323041
maybe when i stack her on top of my dick

>>170323041
nobody gives a flying fuck about shinbi

>>170323092

they will on 3/14.

>>170323221
>aurora gets buffed
>iggy gets nerfed
>shinbi unchanged
good one

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>>170323089
please refrain from speaking about my wife in a sexual manner

>>170323221
What are they going to do? Give her a stun?

>>170323465
>literal worst girl in all of video games
>wife
sorry for your loss anon

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>>170323530
take it back

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>>170312204

>>170323817
ur bade

>>170323817
>september

>>170316524
In a sense you could say Grim's slows is a skill-shot. I didn't say Sparrow doesn't require skill though, I just feel like Grim has the most potential.

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I've been playing Greystone then wrong way
Purity Censer is a fucking blessing for my man

>>170323817
>not in the +200s
get a load of this loser

I really miss Legacy these days, the huge, spacious maps, the jungle that actually felt like a jungle, the very detailed, beautiful map. Especially the water, I don't know why I loved the water so much in Legacy.
On the other hand, Monolith feels compact and crowded, but the jungle is spacious, open with tons of sunlight; it doesn't really feel like it had the sharp turns and sudden encounters that you could have in Legacy. The water in Monolith is fucking disgusting too, what the fuck is that blue waterfall crap in the offlane? Fucking hideous to look at, the water is otherwise fine but the way the river starts and ends is fucking hideous. And the outskirts of the map are fucking hideous to look at as well, what the fuck is that in the map? A baseball field?
I don't wanna seem like I hate Monolith, just wish we could play on the Legacy map as well. I just get tired of same thing, probably would be complaining about the slow paced and butt long combat/matches in Legacy if the roles were reversed.

>>170325373
I feel you. I also miss the dunking mechanic. Shit was intense as fuck. I know Ebin said that Legacy is gone for good but I remember them bouncing around the idea of running the other map a bit. It fell through because separate balance would've been too much work but I say they just bring it back as a fun mode to play around in. Maybe sometime down the line we'll get some sort of creation tool like DoTA 2 has if we're lucky and then Legacy will be revived.

Paragon would have to be pretty successful to get that far though.

>>170304750
It's basically rumble, yes. Except he shoots missles instead of flames.

>>170304675
Right lane would be bottom in Paragon. Middle is Middle, and Left is top. Unlike LoL, tho, your "bottom" goes against their "top" and vice-versa

1v2 lanes are stupid and pointless.

>>170327119
1v2 lanes aren't stupid or pointless

1v2 lanes are of average intelligence and only have about half as much of a point as other lanes

why the fuck are you all so nooby and bad

do you guys want to play or something, add me up, wtf is wrong with you guys

>>170327356
video games are for idiot nerds you stupid retard

>>170327119

the 1v2 is all about the jungle. after river buffs come up, if you don't kill mid or their jungle you can make moves to your offlaner. if you can manage a kill, super great if not at least relieve them. them being able to regen and buy items will help them get an early advantage over the enemy carry.

>>170327119
I wish lanes stayed 1 v 1, 2 v 2
At least for offlane, I felt like I had to adapt to my opponent's play-style and change the way I play to counter them
Now it's just farming under my tower while the enemy carry takes hits at my tower, playing passively, not very challenging.

wtf is this patch?!

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>>170332681

>>170325373
>>170325553
>Tfw people always talk about dunking when you're absent an you loved this shit as well

Seriously it was intense, fun, tactical and added something new to the stale moba formula. We need more stuff like that, not cutting them out returning to old boring standard because they're too hard to balance

>>170324626
Grim is great, his Q has lots of good uses if you're skillfull enough, his ult is a foolproof finisher and nothing beats shitting on your enemy's ult with your shield. And regaining mana from it. Also he has potential for some really sick damage late game

so how do we look at skin variations in game?

>>170335258
you buy them :^)

>>170336469
sheeeeeeeeeeeit

bed time bump

>>170339145
Sweet dreams, burger king.

how does this game have so many more shitters than other mobas despite a smaller playerbase

>>170339850
Because it looks like a shooter game with fancy graphics and fast-paced gameplay. And consolebabbies who spam Good Job on their gamepads.

>>170340063
have you seen some of the social groups though? they complain just like other silver surfers with flawless thinking
>i-its my teams fault i'm 0-7!
>LOL theres no REAL elo yet wait for ranked XD
>"elo hell is real"
>"no this deck doesnt have wards, why do you ask?"

>>170310319
alright thanks
so If I shouldnt build armor or pen what the hell should I build just attack speed and autoattack/ability power?
what happenes if a dmg dealer is fed af on the enemy team should I still not build armor?
this game is weird

>>170310319
Not this guy but to be clear crunches negines or whatever on his back shoot out fire to indicate his next attack is going to be powered. Looks like a jet pack.

>>170327119
They are and nobody forces you to play 1v2 except for the support or adc who refuses to move to the other lane.
When I play in safe lane as support I'll move to the other side of the map and watch the enemy team start losing.
I'll never understand this stupid 1v2 meta.
If you simply keep rotating both your adc and offlaner will hit 5 earlier, it's a very convenient strategy plus you help both sides.

Whenever I play a game and our offlaner is struggling because Sparrow dekker or murdock dekker I start cursing at my team. 1v2 is stupid artificial difficulty waste of time and forces both sides to mandatory lose a turret for no fucking reason.

>>170344763
Because carrys usually scale pretty bad in the early game where an off laner can have abilities that can gap close, stun, or multiple abilities that deal damage while carries usually have one at most other than basic attacks. Damage abilities gain like 40-75 damage per level which is a big deal in the first few levels as opposed to the near 10 cp you would need to gain 60 damage.

Not to mention solo carry is easy to gank or just harass their farm making it take longer to get online. Also jungle is supposed to be doing what you are describing so it should not be some kind of lose turret for no reason.

>>170345442
Plus turrets do less damage than minions so a turret dive is an easy kill on a carry. Having the cc from support deters turret diving

>>170345442
Horse shit
Only carry with no CC is Sparrow but she can just build a blink or hunters guile
Murdock has a knockback and can boobytrap his turret with the stun
Twinblast has his shitty dash but it's still something, plus his bombs are intimidating and can blurr out the screen for a few seconds at close range
Grim literally had his shield made more effective and he can watch past Auroras ring

1v2 is unnecessary, these carries are the same way carries are in league. But we don't 1v2 in league do we.

If players want to 1v2 they should be doing it with a ranged hero at best. I did it with Belica and easily defended and got kills because I didn't have to cs up close.

This meta isn't going to last when more changes and heroes come through because it's really stupid and unnecessary. Offlaners can 1v1 each other like normal.

>>170348040
Grim can also knockback enemies with his blast and slow them down to escape

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Oh look, probably another female assassin!

>>170350014
Does that look like a man's arm?

>>170350014
At least it's gonna be human looking and not a draenai

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>>170350014
WEW

>decide to jungle again
>khaimera this time
>farmed up for 3 ready to gank
>mid is overextended against a gadget plus its warded
>bot is fine
>offlane is completely warded
>go back into the jg
>aurora and Countess keep walking into me while I farm and actually take the jungle creeps
>they do this all game
>they also don't even share 1 river buff since their mid never takes it
>can't gank because everything is warded
>nobody but me and dekker late game had wards
>flame them
>lose because they left our base wide open
I am reminded of why I don't jungle in this game
100% nobody on that enemy team took any jungle creeps from their jungler but it happens to me. Plus entire enemy team had fucking wards

>>170344763
i was thinking the same thing when i was trying this game out the other day. just getting 1st side towers out of the way opens up a lot of plays for your team, but i bet if you just gave safe laner the cxp buffs and had the support look for 2v2 with the jungle you would scale so much faster. like you could just drag the lane back, support and jungler gank mid, go bot and win 3v3 because your carry has twice the levels from solo xp and then sweep their jungle. it would be a really standard play but it gives a huge lead to everyone but offlane

>friends quitting Paragon left and right
this is very sad to me. I hope this isn't widespread because I still enjoy the game and want to see it survive.

>>170358284
C a s u a l s

>>170358284
Know your feel, most of my friends quit recently because they want to play For Honor which I have no interest in. I'm pretty sure they will come back when they get bored of it, but it still hurts.

>>170327119
It's weird how 1v2 lanes are hated on here but praised on Reddit. Someone posted something to this degree on reddit a while ago and everyone gave him shit saying that 1v2 is the best thing for this game because it takes more skill than 2v2 or some shit.

>>170327646
Offlane is usually warded if they are not braindead, at least the river. Non stealth wards can be easily killed though.

>>170344763
Yeah I prefer this when I play carry AS LONG AS our team has a somewhat aware jungle who can step in as well. But I don't normally have a problem with this. Only question I have about it is isn't it kind of a good thing to lose your left tower so that their carry gets over extended more? Idk.

>>170348040
IMO its more about the support tilting the adc by setting up kills for them. As support you want to snowball other players, especially your carry. I already posted I don't mind the support going to the solo lane to help out or what have you, and I roam a lot when I play steel.
But the purpose isn't so much baby sitting (though it is) as it is trying to get adc going too fast for the other team to deal.

>>170365732

yes and no.
no because you should hold out for as long as you can because the longer their support+carry duo is together, it will hurt the carry's XP while you get 2x.

yes because dying is NOT WORTH IT so if you have to sac the tower within 5-10 minutes, fine. i play majority jungle and i look to relieve/gank the offlane after river buffs come out. if they are fine, i'll clear the weak side camps, but if they need help i'll at the very least help them clear a wave and let them go back to fountain to regen. the tower will eventually go down. more often than not this leads the opposing carry to believe they should roam.

>tfw stuck with some dipshit howi who thinks he's gods gift to your team

>>170323282
Iggy gets nerfed? What the fuck why?

>>170367585
I had the same thought, I thought he needed a little buff if anything.

>>170353574
This is rad

>>170368620
For a game that relies heavily on its eye candy graphics, Paragon sure have very few alternative models for heroes.

>>170368864
Yeah but its still in beta. I've liked most of the tier 2 and 3 skins they've released.

>>170353574
>cultural appropriation
>in my paragon

reeee

>>170368864
stop being not smart

>>170367585

>thatsthejoke.jpg

>>170353574
what site can i see the next skin batch and shit?

>oh boy i died better blame someone on my team using an underpar hero
>that'll show them
>good job

>>170371905
Maybe he is feeding intentionally because he is mad at you for your pick.

>>170372325
Why would someone be that childish?

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>>170373227

because they come from the notoriously toxic MOBAs.

frankly, i never have understood the mentality that drives people to purposely feed because of some perceived slight.

if i'm going to spend time to play something, i'm going to play to win.

>>170373895
Not the anon you're responding to, but I've never had someone purposefully feed in a game. I have had a gideon that tower dives and goes 1-20-2 or whatever, but I always assume players like that are just drunk. But maybe the other team did something the perceived as a slight. Not sure.

>>170373227
I have most definitely seen people intentionally feed. I've seen a steel + kallari duo do this. They ran straight down the lane past enemies into the towers until they died ten times each and then they quit. Of course the enemies got the exp because they'd attack them while they were running past.

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>>170323530

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>>170375692
Are you a kpop fan?
She's pretty mediocre in terms of looks.

>>170378242
i'm not the anon who responded to you about her being his waifu. i think theres something cool about her though.
epic should do a gothic skin for her.

1.3GB updates every time.

Why so large?

>usually played ranged characters.
>decide to try out Steel and do okay.
>decide to try out Feng Mao
>turn into absolute rape machine.

I have 550 coins is there any good reason to spend them?

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>>170378681
I think it's cool too to have an Asian pop idol hero, I don't think any other moba have a character like that.
But I think she deserved a more flashy costume. Something less skinny and simplistic.

>>170379748
i kind of wish she just had flashier animations. like how aurora has a bunch of spinning moves and stuff.
i haven't played shinbi much but from playing against her her animations except for her recall seem so boring.

Good Job!

>>170380336
Thanks!

>>170379424
youre a day late

if you bought boxes before you could get coins that could g et you enough for two keys and basically infinite coins. Now the boxes are going to be diluted with skin colors.

The one player that keeps going deep solo (without placing a ward) down a lane to get ganked.

The one player that decides to jungle as the wrong character.

The one player that thinks they can take go 1v3 even though all the enemies are at full health.

>>170381951
>The one player that decides to jungle as the wrong character.
I have the opposite issue. Someone takes rampage or something, and then spends 90% of the game farming in lanes. Of course they go and sit in the jungle once teamfights start.

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>>170381951

1.) Who is Sparrow? Her deck doesn't have wards.

2.) Who is The Fey?

3.) Who is Khaimera?

>>170382554
>jungle Fey
What fucking league are you playing in my dude

>>170382864

Oh, I've never seen it. Just imagining that'd be the worst. High gold so I typically see Grux, Ramp, Khai, with the rare Crunch.

>>170382864
I have never seen a good fey player.

I assume this is accurate.

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>Belica keeps getting themselves killed and raging in chat
> SPLIT
>FUCKING NOOOOOOBS
>pushes alone and without wards all the way to enemy t2 and dies
>FINE SEE HOW YOU DO WITHOUT ME
>BB
>in the time it takes for them to respawn, we kill 4/5 of the enemy team, then take a t2 and inhibitor
>enemy team surrenders as toxic Belica scrambles out of base to be part of the win

>>170384786
I won most of my legacy matches with Fey, and if you build her with pen and damage, she can wreck people pretty fast 1v1. Lost count of how many Khaimeras died thinking they had an easy target in a late-game Fey.

>>170348040

just did a belica offlane vs. dekker & murdock. crushed it and was able to hold our tower long than the opposing aurora.

Me neither, it's funny cause I would think her kit would make her the best support with all that cc
she feels like she can actually contribute to a fight
but I've never played with a decent Fey, only fought against one

>Kallari on team
>lose again

play it safe friendos

if someone picks Kallari, dodge that draft asap

>>170390143

anon i just beat a kallari...did you JUST surrender?

>>170390286
no we had our asses handed to us, core and everything

>>170390286
>>170390405
Further proof to avoid Kallari like the plague.

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Horizon has made me realize how fucking tiring multiplayer games can be. I like being able to chill without getting angry as fuck because some retard on my team doesn't know how to push his wave before leaving the lane or some dumb khaimera doesn't know how to gank and proceeds to chase the enemy all the way down the lane into their tower just to feed. I guess I'll come back for the next hero, who looks to be another FEMALE MELEE. I like Paragon but fuck man, I play games to relax not get worked up all over again.

Thanks for reading my blog.

>>170390905
Why are people so autistic about the gender of new heroes?

Or what they hit things with?

At the end of the day I'm focusing on their kit and gameplay styles.

btw her weapon doesn't look entirely like a melee weapon. Did Epic confirm her as melee?

>>170391115
it has nothing to do with autism, anon. I'm not so angry that I'll scream, cry, and quit playing. It's just that I like playing ranged carries and this game severely lacks them. throw in some variety at least. give us a ranged mage or carry inbetween. they keep putting this melee heroes in back to back.

>>170391451
>this game severely lacks them.
Maybe because we get a new hero to play every month and the game is still in Beta

>>170391530
>Maybe because we get a new hero to play every month and the game is still in Beta
what the hell kind of sense does that make? they can create (and have already created) ranged heroes if they'd like. hell, I'm sure they already have some lined up. I'm just saying that people likely complain because they want some variety instead of expanding the cast with fighter after fighter. I don't really know what you're getting at.

>when your adc, support and mid laner dont have wards

>>170390905
>>170391451
>>170391810
They did it on purpose especially the female heros because there is a huge lack of them compared to male hero. its still are less than 50% female heros and its being done to compensate for the fact. Ranged heros are already confirmed they just want to get past this hump of melee heros. We already know if the upcoming heros are melee or ranged and I think we have one more after this one before they start rolling out the ranged heros.

>>170392383
weird that they do this in clumps but whatever works I guess

So is there no Discord? If there is someone hit me with a link.

>>170392576
Make throw aways for when you want to play with people from here. Otherwise it will turn into degeneracy if it's a vg discord.

Don't

>>170395729
How many posts are just preventing this shit from dying?

Pretty sad.

>>170395804
a lot, including yours. this gen just doesn't have traction. it feels like the SMT gen and those are fucking single player games with no new release or information as of recently.

>>170395804

sometimes i'm having too much fun playing the game to post :^)

Any meme ideas

>game starts
>be support Belica
>go to jungle to place shadow ward before going to lane
>3 of them motherfuckers show up
>absolute slaughter
>still manage to place my Shadow Ward where they cant see it
>[Good Job!]
No fuck off. Just cause you think wards are useless is why you're still stuck in Silver with me

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>>170398020
This but Khaimera

>>170398052

and because you're playing support belica

>>170398052
>Support Belica
Use Rampage/Aurora if you wanna support your way out of silver. That way you can actually do damage and impact the game more.

>>170398345
Someone really wanted to play Howie, so I had to do what I could

>>170398457
Been thinking of using using Aurora, but can't decide on how to build her deck. Got any advice?

>just noticed the new kwang emote
topical

>>170398561
Damage, if you are playing support chuck in barrier of will

>>170398784
Crit and attack speed? With Belica it's much simpler since it's all ability damage, a little ability pen, and finally a hydroverser

>>170398345
>>170398457
Don't listen to these fools. There is nothing wrong with support Belica. And Rampage and Aurora is mainly for [respectively] Jungle and Offlane. Don't waste everyone's fucking time not having 5+ kills to "feed your carry" and sacrifice your exp.
We have proper heroes for that.

You got caught out, that is something that won't change no matter what hero you play. If you think just conveniently having an escape or two will improve your mechanical ability and decision making to a higher level of play, it won't. It will only delay you until a proper meta with multitudes of supports, carries and mages are established.

Third rule of MOBAs is to literally expect the worst. Expect 5 of the enemy to be in the bush. Expect 5 of the enemy team to be behind that unwarded fog. Unlike other games you have the options to walk around and hide around structures.

>>170398939
I dunno, I don't really use her, but my mate who I stack with has used her as support to decent effect. Check agora.gg for popular decks.

>>170399165
It was the first 20 seconds of the game. I never expected the gank that early, and I especially didn't expect 3 of them. 1 of them, sure, but not 2.

>>170399219
>I don't play a hero in the role I am recommending someone else to play
>let me blindly give someone advice
This needs to stop.

>>170398939
I main Aurora. She has powerful autos to the effect that you will be autoing the most while the enemy is stunned. Your damage ratios are shit, do not for the love of god build barrier of will on Aurora, you'll become useless real fast. I say this because you do not have the kit of the support, you are basically doing a kill lane. Wards are all you need.

There are different ways to approach her build, I do not recommend attack speed at all because of her ability ratios, damage means a lot and she'll suffer without them.

You can choose to take basic pen, power, sustain(lifesteal or HP) or power, crit, lifesteal. Madstone gem gives some attack speed as a bonus, which on melee heroes a little helps. Most Auroras take Madstone it's an effective card and good for an early power boost if you upgrade from cast token.

Try to get a feel for Aurora and work on using her effectively, including her mobile abilities to secure kills rather than escape. Then choose 3 traits from what I've told you and build a deck that fits your playstyle the most. The game is truly still in Beta and with the way deck dynamics are copying someone else's deck will confuse you more than experimenting with the deck in solo v AI before you take it to pvp to perfect it.

>>170399417
And that's why you died. You didn't expect it. Early ganks are extremely common. Take advantage of being able to ward from a distance. 60 seconds for a ward recharge, place a ward to lure out the enemy team to destroy it and learn their position. Wards don't only need to be used to keep absolute vision but to bait the enemy into attacking it or moving out of position.

>>170400117
Make me

>>170400117
Thanks, now to work on her deck and try it out. Wish me luck senpai

>>170400117
Also, how is Cast Converter on Aurora for sustain?

New to this game, so far I have been maining Belica. Tried Howi but i did horrible. which other champs should I try that I can play mid or offlane?

>>170401321

Mid: Gadget
Offlane: Aurora

>>170401321
Gideon is pretty new player friendly. his ult pretty much gets you killed late game tho.

>>170401321
>>170402101

It takes a while, but people eventually learn they can stun the guy standing in place rather than fail to run away while the opposing team destroys you. That being said, if you're playing in a group and they have any coordination you can pull off some pretty easy kills.

>>170400667
Bad because she doesn't have a lot of mana.
You won't need it if you have lifesteal or health

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>>170398185

>>170403761
Noice, I enjoy this one

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>>170398185
I'm sort of working on that, but it's been very slow progress. Mostly down to a lack of good reference material from appropriate angles.

>>170406290
Wow, an HD remaster of a half-hour old meme.

That looks good.

>>170406290
Font is too thick, you should make it look more retarded because Khaimera rarely talks and probably would sound as retarded as his playerbase.

>>170398052
I was the only one on my team warding last game.
Surprise surprise, they had total control of the map. Their Belica even came behind our towers to 1v1 ambush me on two separate occasions because she knew she could. One of the team figured it out at the end as if it was some great revelation.
>guys guys!
>get a load of this faggot with his wards!

>>170406440
Ah, I want to stay close to the original though.
I mean, it's already a single panel from one volume of (badly-translated) Jojo: few enough people are going to get it as it is.

>>170406874
Oh i see what you mean. All good
Keep up the good work

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I just want to punch her in her stupid face

>>170408558
I just want to punch her in her stupid face

with my penis

>>170408558
She's cute tho.

>>170408558
Me too

Riveting stuff, /parag/.
Keep her alive until the new character is revealed, at least.

>>170411945
That's in 2 days!

>>170412380
Do you doubt we have enough Paragon to talk about for two days?

>>170412782
I can only talk about Rampage support.

>>170412882
>>170412782
I can greentext thje highlights of every game I play, because they're all guaranteed to be shitshows.

>>170412882
rampage has the best stun in the game, why wouldn't you play him support? his ult also forces the enemy team to focus on him.

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>>170413720
>Be Belica
>Attacking midlane, about to attack inhib with 2 team players with me
>Enemy duo arrives
>We kick their shit
>Rampage ults at his last moment, lives, jumps and scares off 2 of my teammates
>FOCKIN_WOT.jpeg
>The guy is on his last breath and is a tad too confident for his own good
>stun the fucker, bomb the fucker and droid the fucker and wait out his ult to ult him
>Finally ally Sparrow takes the hint
>We auto attack it until it dies
>didn't even have to use ult
The focus only works if your team isn't full of dumbasses, and I assure you, in solo que, they definitely are.

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>>170414276
>Rampage ults and jumps into my inhib thinking he's fucking invincible
>but I wasn't worried
>you see, I was the carry
Crit and DPS can easily outpace Rampage's ult, even mid game; it's funny seeing them realise their mistake and try to run.

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>>170414584
That's the problem, they think popping their ult makes them FUCKING INVINCIBLE, but like the other man in a video game that said that, he was in fact, very vincible

>>170412782
I'll be bitching about who wasted my time tomorrow and khaimera build progress

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Hopefully this WEBM came out better than the first I posted

Been on a horrible losing streak, I cant break into the 1500's anyone else here struggling to move up?

>>170416501
I'm working my way in to the 1400s, but maybe you should switch up whay hero or roles you play
Maybe watch replays and think of what you could have done better

>>170416501
I'm struggling to move back up to my original fucking elo, I just lost 7 fucking games today. I've lost every fucking game I've had today and I'm not even playing that bad, I'm just getting rolling awful fucking players.

I was 1467 elo last week and now I'm at 1326...
I can't catch a break with these fucking people...
My last game was especially awful

>queue up
>Greystone offlane
>dude picks Iggy
>people give him shit, just tell him to go support cause Countess already selected mid
>he takes mid anyway, forcing Countess to go support
>gets a kill when he ganks my lane
>"Iggy sucks huh??"
>proceeds to die 7 times with no kills afterwards
>lose
>after the game
>everyone is flaming him in chat, he's giving everyone shit
>lets me know I'm awful
>tells me I kept going in on a 1 v 5
>I only have two deaths opposed to his 7
>first death was because 5 people were chasing him and I tried saving him and got focused by all 5 of em
>last death was because I was pushing offlane, enemy team collapses on me while my team literally watches me die as I'm getting focused just outside the fog wall of the tier 2 mid tower and my team is sitting in the tier 2 mid tower drinking some beers
>every other instance was me pushing some lane and taking more towers, helping my team

long story short, Ebin, please cut me some slack, I'm not asking for much but just gimme some decent teammates, I've been getting feeders, leaver, afkers, sabotagers, every fucking game...

>>170417417
Dodge?

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>>170417417
I was 1490 now I think Im back in the 1390's, its frustrating me to hell and back especially when I start doing bad but yea I get what you mean it can be frustrating as hell when youre teammates just make plain obvious mistakes

>>170417223
Already do this

>>170417583
I'm on PS4, it doesn't immediately disconnect me from applications I close
believe me, if I knew how, I'd have dodged so many games I knew were gonna be terrible from the start
>>170417826
It's worse when your teammates baby you, I had a fucking Countess that kept on babying everyone with their roles, telling me where to jungle, telling offlane that it's okay to lose his tower, telling our support how to support
the funny thing is that nobody asked him for this advice but he keeps on typing to himself in chat
when we were down to our inhibitor, he kept typing
"I believe in you guys!!!!"
"hold the tower for 30 seconds!!:
"good job guys!!!"
I guess I'm just stressed because I keep losing, I've never met as many toxic and retarded players throughout the 600 hours I've played Paragon for..

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>weed guy sees me in paragon menu when he's dropping off
>"Oh yeah, I play that game on PS4. I played Legacy. The new map is sick, We should play some time."
>Figure he's going to be semi-decert.
>Agora says decent enough, but is stick in sub 1200.
>easy games against ps4 noobers, right anon?

irl friend is kwang

>>170418461
>>170418461
I think you might have took that the wrong, I think he genuinely wanted you guys to win and was encouraging you, In this community People arent that Ironic, If he was toxic he would have spammed GOOD JOB! and AFK'd

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>>170418625

FYI: I'm belica. Other friend is Twin. He was first pick. Sparrow soft picks her afterwards at fourth pick. Team begs her to reconsider. "NAH". Calls us niggers in pre-game.
>I should be dodging
>friend playing twin was talking about this being his last game before two dodges that we didn't do, including one match loading...0
>fuck lets try to make it work.
>kwang doesn't know how to offlane

Pretty sure never playing with you again, weed guy.

>>170418625
>>170418801
I have a weed junkie friend who I regularly play with. At this point I can't remember when have I last seen him sober. Ingame he's hit or miss, either great or terribly meh, probably depending on how the weed kicked in. At least he gets the tactics right though.

>>170417826
damn nigga that shit was dangerous

>>170418801
>used to have a military friendo that I added back in Legacy because I was amazed at how he played Murdock
>I would invite him and we'd play without comms
>eventually I invited him on Skype and it turns it he was in the military, super relaxed guy though
>we both started in the same elo
>I rose up to high gold, he rose up to plat
>stopped playing because I got bored
>he stopped playing altogether
>start playing again when Monolith kicks in
>he never comes back

damn, best duo queue partner I've ever had, good luck to you wherever you are

>>170419189
I forgot there was even a fucking murdock on the team lel

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so /parag/, how do we save Paragon? my vote? more complex hero kits. and give me a titty monster

>>170419810
more game modes, fix the whole fucking card system to be more interesting, all the cards we got are boring as hell

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>>170419810
Hero kits that create more dynamic team fighting.
Hero kits with better cohesion.
Hero kits that encourage different vantage points or take better advantage of the Y axis.
Rework the card system.
Redo the map again.

Paragon will be a game that when the developers finally get right, will really be a 9/10.

It's just gonna take time

>>170421120
and give me total team CP in the tab menu pls

>>170419810
I'm probably alone in this, but since we have behind the back view already, I would love the gameplay to feel slightly more "action-y". I would like to see such things as for example ability to properly hide behind cover, some simple melee fighting mechanics instead of just mashing left click, guns feeling more like actual guns perhaps with a need to reload, stuff like that. The basic moba mechanics and principles would remain unaffected, but the gameplay would be much more exiting and characters more diverse. Also bring back passives, everything that makes a character more distinct is great.

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>>170418461
>guy legit wanted to help everyone
>shittalked on the taiwanese puppet discussion website
Give him some cred man, he wanted to help. He wanted to believe

>>170421491
lol I think you posted this once before. I was in the middle of a match with my friend and asked him what he thought about it and he responded "fuck no!"

I actually think it's a cool ass idea and would make the game feel more like a third person action game and less like a moba but we're so far in now that if they changed things that way it would break up the current community. I guess they could always add in heroes with mechanics like that .i.e. Crunch's combos. Have you ever heard of a game called Gigantic? it's kind of like what you're describing.

I agree with passives though. Why were they removed in the first place?

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>>170419810
I agree, we need a thick tiddymonster, maybe have a Belica skin where she's wearing a black camisole and it shows that she actually has a ginormous rack A guy can dream

So /parag/, lorewise, who will be the Paragon?

>>170421926
The announcer

>>170421754
Yeah, I think I did few threads ago. You're probably right, this would be a massive change to pull out and would scare many players out, which i probably why they will never do something like that. Shame though, because I feel this is the direction we should be heading in. If Paragon already have much better visuals, controls and general action feeling why not finally break off with the outdated gameplay style that's only there because the genre started as a Warcraft mod?

As for the passives, some of them were very powerfull, while others were just minor bonuses and instead of balancing them they decided to just get rid of them. That's another problem, instead of actually trying to keep some new mechanics in, Ebin is too lazy to properly balance them and just scraps them. Same with the dunking, same with harvesters. In case of passives it wasn't even that much of a problem, since most characters with powerful ones had weaker active abilities kit and vice-versa. Not to mention that game was unbalanced as hell back then in general

>>170421926

Paragon has lore outside of the Hero bits?

>>170423526
Yes there are like 3 planets and greystones brother fugged sparrows mom while muriel botched a suicide attempt and had a robostroke erasing her memories

>>170423660
how does a robot commit suicide? how does a robot fail at commiting suicide? why isn't grux's grandmother a playable hero yet?

>>170423784
shes one of khaimeras skins

>>170423841
stop it that's not mama grux. she'd never lose to khaimera.

>>170423938
she didn't lose per se

she ripped off her face and threw it as she ran away like how a salamander detaches it's own tail as a decoy for escape

>>170421491
>I want this game to be overwatch
why don't you just play overwatch then

What are the appropriate moments to pop twinblasts ult

>>170430608
Enemy on low health is getting away

>>170430608

when someone is running away and you don't want to slow down by using auto-attacks. you can move at full-speed while ulting.

>Only 43 posters
How do we get more lads?

>>170434379
card rework

>>170434420
When is this due?