/scg/edg/ Star Dangerous Elites General #138: Nigel Keeps Fucking

>>170104424
Star Citizen > ED

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>>170104586
Let's not do this

>>170104586
Wrong.

My apologies to Nigel and are Mag, it seems the goof in between his OPs fucked up the info with his god damned extensions I told him to check when he makes the thread.

>>170104586
if it ever actually releases then ya maybe

>>170104424
>(embed) (embed)
almost m8

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Hull Series when? I want to induce size envy NOW.

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>>170108092
Two.

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>>170108578
Patches.

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blind spots

>>170109310
>blind spots
MISC in a nutshell

are we going to see any Hulls come out by 3.0?

>>170109714
Most likely. Now that they have the final MISC design down, they can reuse interior and exterior assets which will make things go faster. If I am not mistaken, I think the Hull C is supposed to come out during 3.0.

Chris said that they will do a rare ship sale soon, probably in May/June. Which ships you think are out then?

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>>170109714
Depends on whether they can get the stupid extension mechanism working the way they want it to I guess. Making the ship itself is not that much work due to lots of reusable MISC assets.

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>they fixed this bug
feels bad man

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ded

I'm trying to decide if I want dual sticks or not. Can anyone demonstrably prove an advantage over kb/m?

What is the minimum to spend for a competent flight stick?

>>170114353
Mouse aiming is better than waggling some mechanical stick which resists.

Do people play Quake 3 with a joystick?

>>170114531
Do people fly a plane with a mouse? Thought not, fuck off cunt

>>170114591
they would if they could but they aint cuz the caint

>>170114591
>Do people fly a plane with a mouse?
Actual flying planes? No. Simulated ones? Sure.

Why did you get angry? If you want to blow $500 on 2 sticks that you'll get bored of after Star Citizen dies, go ahead.

>it's a "sticknigger hates mouse and keyboard controls in Star Citizen and got gimbal size nerfs because they cry a lot" episode

>>170114591
they literally do fly the ISS with a mouse and keyboard and a monitor.

>>170114531
I don't disagree. I have a small amount of nerve damage in my right hand. No dexterity issues, but my index finger and thumb have no sense of touch. This makes using a mouse with a bunch of buttons impossible because I can't tell exactly where my thumb is, lol.

I was just wondering if anyone was comfortable with both could explain what the difference in effectiveness is. If you had to fight your clone with either kb/m or dual stick with your clone got the other, what would you choose?

>>170116008
OK, that makes sense. But what's the difference with using a stick in your right hand? The thumb hat requires your thumb and the trigger requires your index finger. You'd have to use your middle finger instead.

I've seen people say dual sticks is good but requires a bit of adjustment because it's quite different.

The thing is, if you're going to buy 2 sticks and don't like it, what then? Return them? Can't you find someone with 2 sticks to try out? Or maybe buy 2 really cheap ones first.

If you did buy them, I saw those Thrustmaster T16000 recommended in a few places.

>>170114353
what do you plan to do with two sticks?
i can see what one does ie steering and that stuff
but what do you plan to do with the second one?

>>170117047

erp

>>170116417
>But what's the difference with using a stick in your right hand?
I can use a xbone controller with no issue because it is definite movements that I can feel in my hand.

>>170117047
>what do you plan to do with two sticks?
I was thinking the right one would be pitch and roll with yaw on twist.

The left one would be forward and lateral strafe with vertical strafe on twist.

>>170117229
This is what I saw someone recommend, left for movement, right for aiming.

Hey /edg/ I just want to talk about my setup. So currently I have dual sticks, left hand right hand and a keyboard in the middle. Left does lateral thrusters, right roll/pitch. Then I have two pedals for yaw, now to the crux of what I wanted to ask- wellI I only have two arms and two legs, so I was thinking- is there any way I could use my penis to select pips?

Thanks in advance,
your mum's lover.

>>170118006
Use Voice Attack, CMDR!

o7

>>170118006
oh shit! >>170118128 totally called you out. honorable combat or ur a bitch.

>>170118217
*switches to solo*
Heh, not so fast griefer.

>>170118128
How do I interact with that using my penis? I don't follow, cmdr

>>170119057
By sticking your dick in your mouth duh.

o7

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>>170119206
absolutely shitposterous

>>170118006
I use the directional hat combined with a button on my left hand for functions like landing gear, boost, heat sinks and cargo scoop then just the directional hat for pips.

I also use another thumb button on my left hand and the hat for UI focus.

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Anyone other news from GDC besides that sweet sweet new character customizer?

>>170122859
Stop using shit-tier attempts at memes.

Tapir's are the dankest of memes anon

>>170104586
ED > Everything else

prove me wrong

>>170122859
>wew how do I draw a nose
>oh right I just don't

What is the verdict on Hellion? Anybody spent any time on it?

>>170126021
Goons are trying to promote it as a Star Citizen killer. Like "This is everything Star Citizen wanted to be" and "This is literally everything I wanted from Star Citizen", even though they got a refund for a space shooter like Wing Commander.

I guess it's just historical revisionism.

>>170126289
I think the focus is a little different. I hope they are both good. I'll play both. Is $25 ok for it?

Chris is sad... He wants more money.

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>>170126385
Nope it's a piece of shit.

>>170126289
Why are goons so pathetic?

>>170126385
I haven't played it. They give it very positive reviews but they do claim it's buggy. Disclaimer; they also praise Mass Effect: Andromeda and Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare (because Derek Smart praised them on twitter and used them examples of games that are going to kill Star Citizen).

Quince is in Ceasefire.

Is the war over? Can I do anything to get them fighting again?

>>170125628

Who likes noses anyway? They're ugly. Just think about it, it's two holes containing hairs and mucus. It's like a trashcan, but on your face.

>>170126021
Looks kinda shite desu.

I know there's a special breed of autists in SC community who get of of rping a space greasemonkey, but this shit is on another level.

A fucking paraphernalia of switches, batteries and filters that break constantly, so your typical gameplay session will consist of scrounging samey looking space station pieces for parts, returning to your home, wasting another hour fixing every ac unit, light switch and holo panel with new nuts and bolts.

It takes the resource grind of Rust and multiplies it to absurd levels.

>>170126289
Goons are just poor adults that have no confidence in their decisions

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If these don't happen, spam DS's twitter with this picture until he writes another million word rant on his blog.

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Post screens

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>>170128082
fuck me what size is that chin gun, when did this happen

>>170128258
S3, just like the wing mounts. It's always been there. It's fixed you can put the chin turret on for 2xS1 or you can be a man, fly all fixed guns and have 3xS3+1xS4

>>170127057

>trying to do massacres in Quince while 17D is in civil war

Where the fuck have you been? Get your ass over here before the war ends here too.

>>170128561
Quince is in civil war too? Is there really any difference?

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>>170128818

>Is there really any difference?

I legitimately feel bad for you.

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>>170127625
Why the fuck wouldn't we be able to land on planets from space. Its a vital part to their vision and 3.0 wouldn't be all the hype it is without that feature. It would make CIG lose all their credibility. That whole post is dumb.

What's a good place to grind cash other than 17 Draconis? It's 53 jumps away, and I'd rather fucking kill myself than do that. Is there anything closer to Witoa?

>>170129179

No. Go to 17D. Kill yourself in a Sidey to respawn back in the bubble to buy a jump Hauler if you have to. After the update drops, you will never have this chance again. Depending on your combat setup, you can make 100mil+/h and that is no exaggeration.

>>170129382

B-but muh imp courier.

Fine.

Is there anything else I should know about it? Like what specifically I'm doing?

>>170129498

an important thing to know is that you can make more money per hour in quince doing surface scans if you suck at combat and have horizons

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>>170127695

>>170129790

I do have Horizons but I'm pretty okay at combat.

>>170129382
>>170129790

So the question is, what the fuck do I actually do? I'm borderline retarded (as can be obvious with my choice of voluntarily subjecting myself to ED).

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>>170127695
Dadwinder

>>170130216

massacre missions in 17D, depending on your ship.

>>170130331

>I'm borderline retarded

surface scans in quince as long as you have horizons

>>170130331

While 17D is in civil war, the factions will give out massacre missions. Basically you just take the missions, go to the combat zone, and kill as many ships as you need for your mission. The trick is to stack as many missions as you can, and try to get juicy ones that give out 5mil per mission or above. Every kill counts for every mission, so do the math as to what would happen if you got 20 massacre missions and each gave 10 million each.

>>170129012
So no, is what you're saying?

This post is for dads only. Reply here if you are a) dad and b) have more money than other losers on this thread. I just made cup of coffee and looking through my excel sheets. I make my own trade routes.

>name plates in the beta are black text on a ship

Is it that fucking hard to do Black on White text?

>>170131605
It will cost you... extra.

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does anyone have the old-school shitrocity SIRA flag in all its glory?

i need to save it

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>>170133361

this?

>>170133628
you're the fuckin' man

o7

>>170133782

*interdicts u*

>>170133361
White nigger federation reporting to duty!

>>170133879
*boosts behind u and instagibs u w/ cytoscrambler+plasma accelerator*

pssshh...

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>>170133782
>>170133879
>>170134031
>>170134715

maybe i'll be banned this time

hope not pls no

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So I'm currently just flying in supercruise in circles trying to get USS to spawn, and of those, get high grade, and in that high grade, get one certain component

>mfw seeing a high grade and suddenly getting interdicted by Navy ships

>Mission objective complete
>black screen

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>bearing down on 10bil but the remaining grind will be brutal

gotta get a grip

>>170137364

which component?

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>>170138698

Military Supercapacitors

Got 9. It'll do.

Now for:
>Aberrant Shield Pattern Analysis
>Classified Scan Databanks
>Modified Embedded Firmware
>mfw

>>170104424
source?

What's the difference between massacres in Quince and 17D?

>>170146623

Quince has to compete with scan missions for mission board slots

17D doesn't, meaning more rolls of the dice for better missions and easier/faster stacking

Post Carracks

>>170114531
The resistance is important because flight games have a "zero" position that's kind of important so it's an advantage if your controller physically centers itself and gives you feedback on how far you're from the center.

Quake etc. is just pointing a cursor and it's instant so mouse makes sense there.

>>170126289
it just looks like a clone of space engineers to me. what's special about it?

I've come a long way for what's in your hold, don't try to run!

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>log on
>find that Quince has got a lot more missions being offered as opposed to the last few days
>a lot more of them are offering excellent pay too
>I'm not getting "MISSION FAILED" as soon as I touch any of them either

Today will be a good day

>>170155757
>he's still in Quince
I'd post a smug anime girl but my shitposting folder is on another computer

>>170155812
how else do you rank up in the Glorious Empire

>>170155921
oh i thought you were there for money
ignore my post

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>>170152215

Just got elite Dangerous. First time playing ever. Should I use a controller or use mouse and keyboard.? I was using mouse but it felt kind of wonky but I know I'm shit at flying.

>>170157621
I preferred m+kb when I first started playing E:D, but I switched to HOTAS rather quickly.
I wish I had two joysticks and maybe some pedals.

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>kills aren't counting
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>170157968
shooting the wrong guys
pro tip: look for MISSION TARGET in lower left when targeting potential enemy

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>>170158310
I was, faggot. Shit like this happens occasionally. ED is shit and I shouldn't have fallen for 17 draconis meme yet again

have a smug anime face

>>170158974
then your allies shot the bad guys faster than you and got the credit for the kill

>>170159294

You fucking mong, idiot, dense potato. You have no idea what's going on, do you? Leave this place and never come back fucking fool

>>170159294
It only happens with players. If you get the combat bond, means you got the credit. I have no wrong bonds, I am dead sure I was killing the correct guys.
It's just game being shit like usual. 2.7m bonds and only 24 kills? Come on

>>170159460
don't reply to me or my posts EVER again

>>170159519
If it doesn't say 'mission target' when you scan them, relog.

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>>170159614
3.3m and 42 kills. Holy shit I was royally fucked there.

how come people actually talk about playing ED? is it more fun or something now?

before it was just a meme that it was a ded game

>TFW there are people in your gaming community with Star Citizen Derangement Syndrome.
Theres others who own the game, a few who are slightly interested, most are "wait and see"ers who are just watching it until its a game. But theres like 3 or 4(Amusingly a Mentally-damaged trans thing and and a literal furfaggot among them) who every time the topic comes up go into tirades about scam and "sc never" memes, I legitimately think they are more invested in SC hatred than I am in The Cult of Chris Roberts and the Best Damned Space Sim Ever.

>>170160873
Its got the no competition angle going for it the same way planetside2 does, you dont have to be a particularly well made or fleshed out game if you're literally the only option in the genre. There are no other even sorta decent first person, direct control space simmy combat games out there. I legit expect EDG to just sorta roll over and die when SC goes into full releasein 2028 or whenever.

>>170161008
Freudian slip lel, I expect E:D to die out pretty quick, EDG will die much sooner, like as soon as 3.0 comes out and /SCG/ actually has things to talk about. Once that happens we'll split the generals back off and E:Dg will no longer have the memes to support itself.

>>170160873
>playing
no, we're having fun flying around and looking at things

>>170160892
It is pretty amazing really. The average SC backer maybe watches ATV at best, but the 'haha it's a scam the game is never coming out CIG is going to run out of money any way now' crowd not only follows every piece of SC news on every news outlet ever, but also as many devs as possible on their social media and linkedin accounts. Not only that, but they spend hours each day posting on twitter, the FDev forums, comment sections below articles about SC and whatever else.

>>170162002
>way
day.

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>>170162002
Yea its pretty ridiculous. I don't get why they even try anymore, they aren't going to convince anyone who has already backed the game.

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>>170161102
So much denial here.

Why can't we enjoy both games?

SC will never be "the" game. It's never going to live up to its ungodly standards set by its followers and developers.

ED will never be "the" game. Any potential of it being such is going to be ruined by Forumdads and its Devs saying "No, that's like Eve. No that's like _____. No we can't have that. That's too much like ______. "

So fuck off and stay on the thread. Both games suck at the moment.

>inb4 but muh 3.0 hype train gunna revive muh thread, hahah.. hah... hello? Guys???
>inb4 but 2.3 is going to revive ED! We gets legs in 3.0! HAHAHA!

I don't care. I just wanna farm 17D for 1b/hr.

>>170163516
>farm 17D for 1b/hr.
wtf how

>>170163716
Wing up

>>170164140
i've found its faster to play alone tbqh
for some reason i haven't seen anyone else in open for days
its like people got tired of grinding and went off to do something else

>>170162976
It legit obsessive mental illness, there is a significant crowd of people who feel the need to see others fail. They would rather see failure than success because they get off on others misery(goons) or they want their counterparts to fail because it validates their own failures and ineptitude(smart), in particular he wants it to fail because if Roberts gets handed millions and then makes a great game it will leave smart looking like complete dipshit, because he has also been repeatedly handed millions and has nothing to show for it, making it painfully clear that the weak link is him and he is a shitty incompetent developer.

>>170163516
I can't enjoy E:D because:
1) Its a shit tier non-game grind simulator designed by dads and for dads and its dev team aggressively attack emergent gameplay and unintended interactions. Fdev and Braben are shit and don't deserve money.

2) E:D fags have been attempting to derail discredit and just generally attack SC literally since the Inception of /SCG/, I've been here the whole time and it used to be an every day raid from /edg/ back when we were still bright eyed and optimisitic and you fuckers did your very best to ruin that. I literally do not own E:D becasue of the behavior of E:D shills in this thread back in 2013, I ahve given more than $2000 to SC and have not and will never give E:D a nickel because of the nature of both the dev team and the community.

At some point /scg/ will split off on its own again when we have the people, and then you fuckers will have to sink or swim on your own, if you have the people. SC has a future E:D does not.

>I don't care. I just wanna farm 17D for 1b/hr.
Because that's all there is to do in E:D isn't it that's all there will ever be to do because it's not a game you play for fun, it's a job simulator you complete by maxing all your rating and grinding until you have the best possible ship in a linear and inflexible progression.

>>170165162
This is the type of behavior that develops when people think that the world around them decides their reality, instead of controlling their reactions through thought and maturity.

DS has no power to visualize his future. He purely reacts to what he perceives as personal threats to his view of how the world should work. I imagine he genuinely thinks that someone at CIG is worried about him, no matter what reality does to show the opposite being true.

Also, you do understand that most of the SC hate is from butthurt peasants? Most of the people here with good rigs own both games. I don't think the thread will split. edg may go quiet for a while, like it did at 2.5, and like scg did after the Thargoids, but the momentum from 3.0 won't last, and we will be right back here again, just with a higher version number.

>>170165162

>SC has a future E:D does not.

A future is only a future if it at some point becomes the present. What you're talking about is a dream.

> I ahve given more than $2000 to SC

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA good job paying for Roberto's hooker money.

>>170166915
Is Roberto the new SA meme? Did constantly using Croberts get too obvious?

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>people here haven't lost complete faith in cig

jej

Behind schedule and over budget.

SC is a fucking mess right now and will be for years to come. They've no concrete direction and have begun to undermine core design decisions. This does not bode well.

Has fishing been confirmed for SC? I just want to travel galaxies fishing the biggest fish man can find

>our sister thread is fighting again ;_;

I just wanna talk about spess gaem

>>170167651
what can you expect? one is a grinding dadgame and the other is never EVER coming out

>>170167258
I don't know what SA is, and I can only assume you are a very paranoid, poor (from donating all your money) man.

>>170167780
>I don't know what SA is
lurk moar

>>170167869
I'd rather not fill my brain with the paranoid ramblings of a let down bunch of crowdfunding potatos.

In fact, I think I'm going to spend $2000 on a nice, new gaming machine :^)

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>>170167713
We'll just go to space for real by the time there is a good enough game of it to play.

>>170163516
>and its Devs saying "No, that's like Eve. No that's like _____. No we can't have that. That's too much like ______. "
That's hella lame, yeah. There's nothing wrong with taking the cool shit from X different spacegames and finding a way to blend them.

>Forumdads
I'm a newfag to /scg//edg/, what is a forumdad.

>>170169607

A forumdad is an honourable member of the community that is vastly appreciated for their life experience.

>>170169727
this
also, if you should encounter one of these wise sages in your space travels, they might send you a "o7". This is a traditional E:D greeting that implies a desire to engage in hororable combat. It is customary for the one who received the "o7" to interdict the sender and fire the first shot.

>>170169992
honorable*

>>170169992
also important: you will be publicly slandered and added to multiple large organization KOS lists if you EVER decline one of these challenges. it is regarded as utmost cowardice irregardless of circumstance

has anything happened in the past few weeks? do we know when 3.0 is coming?

>Never seen the obnoxious constellation owners people cry about until now

Wew. What insufferable people.

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>>170170564
Should have seen the Freelancer owners when the rework was finished.

>>170170569
I love CIG, the communicate with us so well!

>>170170472

>do we know when 3.0 is coming?

huehuehue

>>170170654
Dunno why, the only real loss was the S3 guns, but even thats reasonable. Everything else on the lancer 2.0 is Goat.

>Ingb4 Muh visibility
It's a freighter.

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>>170170472
>do we know when 3.0 is coming?

>>170171016
>>170170942
>>170170569
is this a samefag or is there something I'm not privy to

>>170171108

don't listen to these trolls, 3.0 is coming in 2 weeks time

>>170171158
please do not meme me, give it to me straight

>>170170472
my dad works for CIG and mumbled the release date for 3.0 in his sleep last night
never EVER

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>>170171182
okay, I was joking. Next month at the latest.

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>>170171265
>Next month at the latest.

>>170171265
Your responses are beginning to worry me.

>>170170993
>It's a freighter.
This

Theres more ways to balance a ship than just nerfing its firepower and armor/shields.

>>170167381
But seriously we can't let Roberts get the nuclear codes.

>>170167597
Chris will start to sell fishing rods soon. There's going to be a huge variety of fishing equipment available. It's going to be really interesting. I guess you could also add couple of ships related to that as well.

>>170171858
w-what do you mean we can't? damn g-goons

>>170170993
It's a freighter that puts up a damn good fight even with "visibility problems" and bugged out turret HP/shields.

Everyone wants their chosen ship to be the best, and the buggy silly-broken murdercock the Freelancer was at initial release with 4xS4 and 1/10th it's intended mass set some folks hopes way too high.

If you wanna see balancefag tears wait for the MISlancer to release in 2018.

>Conflict zone disappeared

Braben pls

>>170172163
>carrack water landing and intake module for skimming fish
people would buy this if only for the Bebop factor

>>170172874
war is over friend, time to spend those shekels

>>170173012
Is Quince still in Civil War?

>>170173243
yup

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>>170170472
I'm still surprised how fast everyone went from:
>3.0 by the end of 2016 boys!
to:
>Let's be realistic, 3.0 in 2018. Anyone who thinks anything earlier is clueless.

>>170165162
>I ahve given more than $2000 to SC
I am sorry for your loss.

>>170174013
>everyone
Not really, no.

>>170172878
>Bebop factor
Only if you could launch a Bucc and a Mustang out of it.

>>170175103
I was just thinking that if the Buccaneer wings could fold upwards then it would be the perfect ship to fit into a light carrier.

Best guns\missiles for pvp F7C?

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>>170176760
Upgraded packhounds

>>170176760
Mcannon rogue f

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So what will /edg/ name their ship?

And which waifu will your commando be modeled after?

>>170176760
2xS3 and 2xS2 CS missiles and 5x whatever the current meta meme S2 gun is. In 2.6.0 the M4A was quite good.

>>170175803
Even without the belly gun, I'm still looking forward to the Bucc.

>>170176760
GT-870 Mk3 x 3
BEHR Cannon on the flashfire mount

>or

Panther repeaters x 3
Whatever you want on the flashfire

>or for max dakka

GT-220 x3
Renevant on the FF mount.

>not recommended

Laser cannons: too slow and not enough hull damage, at least the size 3 ones. Omnisky VI are actually pretty good for size 2.

The biggest problem with ballistic guns is keeping ammo. Energy weapons are only meh, but you only have to deal with heat.

Also, rent an Aurora CL. It has the best power plants and coolers in the game, and all 4 are a bargain for the rental price versus the store ones. F7C has 3 powerplants, rent one A&R Overdrive if power is still a problem.

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>>170177371
Easy there stud, that woman is mine!

o7

>30th century
>ship has to carry ballistic ammo
Also buy more $18 guns

Has Chris read this book?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

>>170178908
>o7
fighting over women now, are we?
*interdicts u*

whats the best system to look for federal navy rank up missions?

>>170178930
Hot lead works on literally everything. It will never not be used.

>>170179462
*submits*

Not today, chump.

*high wakes out*

>>170179637

Systems where you have one or more federal factions with which you have friendly relations.

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>>170179462
>>170179921

Victor is >>170179462

Replay to this comment to join me in mocking >>170179921 for being a loser and leaving honorable combat.

Thermal shock or incendiary rounds for grade 5 Multis?

>>170180182
1 corrosive is a must
thermal shock was nerfed, incendiary better

>>170180350
roger that cmdr o7

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Well it's been a couple days and my mission is still fucked. I think I'll just make the rest journey to sag A and pray to braben the mission doesn't break when I get there.

>>170181345
propaganda should not be this transparent to be effective, not that anything is going to work here now that they've soured almost every tactic by being super fucking obvious with it. we're better at baiting ourselves than goons are at getting us, lol

>>170182535
Eh, just go there and contact support if it doesn't complete. They can manually give you your shekels.

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>>170182535
Wait, you went to SagA without even knowing for sure it's the mission target? Even better, you went to sagA when 17D and Quince exist?

Ahahahaha, made my day, based retard!

>>170182770
how ded is this game that manually overturning bugs by counting out the space beans by hand for each player is a viable option? maybe they're trying to drive people away just so the holes in their code remain manageable.

>>170182932
The mission was working fine before I left the bubble and I already have more money than I need so I couldn't give any less of a fuck about quince or 17D. I'm really just doing it so it will push me into my elite exploration rank.

>>170183310
No need to make up excuses, the situation is clear and fucking hilarious to me.

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>Expecting 3.0 this year

top of kek mountain

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>>170183553
I guess I should really stop expecting ED to bring me anything other than constant disappointment

if 2.6.2 comes as soon as they say, isn't there a good chance 3.0 will come out this year?

>>170185231
yes. the goonposting is just extra heavy today. the biggest task is the networking, they have shown every other fundamental thing.

>>170185402
Except proper NPCs, cargo, how ArcCorp will be realized, grabby hands, a landing management system, an actual quest system

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>>170185231
>>170185402

Goonpoisting or not, after those lies about how close they where to getting to show SQ42 and releasing 3.0, I dont believe a single word from CIG until I actually see a schedule report on it and then add a month or two to the estimated release date.

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>>170185402
>cig
>networking
>with the insane latency of movement and fire in all game-modes right now
>with removal of docking collars and conjoining of spacecraft grids because they couldn't find a way around the networking of it
>with the amount of work they've just caused for themselves with half-baked ships that were designed with collars in mind

muh pipelines

call it goonposting all you like but sc is stuck in the water from just about every angle

sq42 eventually, maybe?

come on

>use cryengine
>crytek dies
>have to pretty much buy them
>then haul your butchered version of the engine to lumberyard

i cannot believe how fucking comical that aspect of it alone is

CR. the MADMAN

>>170185231
If they can overcome their networking issues and 2.6.2 comes out before the end of the month then I think its very much possible to see 3.0 by August.

>>170186549
>If
Yeah.

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>>170186549
if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if

>>170186668
>>170186746
OKIE DOKIE

But yeah its a HUGE if.

>>170186549
What part of "the AI system is crucial for 3.0 but still in prototyping" did you not understand?

>>170186102
the docking collar shit always sounded retarded to me and I never thought they'd actually make them work

too bad people on the forums believe every single word handwaved on 10ftc going back like 4 years

curious to see how the cargo works. I bet they'll just make boxes appear in the back of the ship when you buy them from a menu

>>170186798
I understood all of it. What makes you think CIG won't just release 3.0 with semi-working AI just to please the community? I sure as hell wouldn't care if the AI is buggy at first.

>>170186867
i agree. the angles and volumes of space available to the ships around their prospective collars always seems completely fucking retarded quite frankly. they do, however, owe it to affected vessels to either go back and change parameters in the case of that dumb fan-made ship which relied upon its collar as a mode of operation, or just touch the aesthetics in the subtraction of the modules and streamline the ships.

>>170186867
>I bet they'll just make boxes appear in the back of the ship when you buy them from a menu
Thats the plan in 3.0, for larger items at least.

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>>170186102
>>170186549
>>170186668
>>170186746
>>170186789
>>170186798
>>170186867


mfw they wont be able to get the new networking code to function until late 2018

SC will then be a vaporware labeled game with no hype left because of almost 2 years with no worthwhile updates.

>>170188483
NOT IN THIS TIMELINE

>>170155974
Where else then? 17 Draconis?

How good of an outfitting selection does 17D have, and if it's shite, how far is the closest system with decent stations?

>>170186102
>insane latency of movement and fire
uh not so hombre. in fact much of the problem is the fact that fire latency is so low, while still high for movement. so you're basically forced to fire at where you think your opponent should be right now on their screen.

>>170190037

17D has fuck all in the way of outfitting.

>how far is the closest system with decent stations

Colonia.

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Fun time, pretend Star Citizen just released almost as planned, what shitstorm do you expect ?


> Dereck Smart kill himself while the world discover SC
> Ubisoft released a Assassin's Creed IN SPACE and Bethesda released Fallout with vehicle centered gameplay, Activision is announcing a new COD in space.

- Forum get flooded by raging retards because their pledged ships isn't OP (or they can't use it right when it is)

> Operation pitchfork only see a few ship reaching Vanduul space, leaving a trail of wrecked starter ship, out-of-gas frigate and warship, the only one to make it there are long range freighter and Starfarer and under-equipped crewless Polaris

> The community is on fire because a vocal minority find unacceptable that CIG had to abandon a barely noticeable feature.

> CIG is underfire for not banning the first wave of nazi-like orgs
> outlaw orgs rage on the forum because SC wasn't made to let them ganks the UEE and control the economy at 100% like EVE
> ironically the first Bengal Carrier is stolen and destroyed after someone was handed real money to disband an org.

> whales ask for Capital buff because their 2000$ LTI Idris can't survive a coordinated attack of torpedo-bomber

> players start getting money efficiently, pirates bitch on the forum because npc-crew cut their profitability

> some goonfleet manage to break a major feature of the game, CIG have to put on standby the next patch to rework it

>>170192647
>Fun time
More like stale autism, fuck off.

>>170192647
>The community is on fire because a vocal minority

This is going to happen, definitely. Though I don't know if it will be the community itself, rather just trolls. Like with the recent Zelda release, everything that can be twisted into a negative will be.

>>170192885

why.png

>>170192647
>cig goes under because space games don't sell

>>170194717
Even if SC somehow didn't sell they already have enough money to finish SQ42 and last a few years.
It's funny how people ignore that 140m budget don't mean using it all at once.
You would need SC to be at least as disappointing as NMS for it to fail. Else it will just fit right along E:D

>>170195701
CIG has been implying there won't be enough money to finish SC as it stands, and they need to use profits from SQ42 to finish it.

>>170192647
I have always said that if I ever got control of a Bengal carrier I would crash it into the nearest planet for science.

>>170192647
>SC comes out as planned
>Dereck Smart starts backpedaling and saying he was actually helping bring more attention to the game and should get advertisement money and starts desperately negotiating to get his old refunded account back
>The Forums get extra retarded (You may as well ask why the sky is blue, shit like this just happens)
>Reddit gets hammered with screenshots of ships posed in front of things like what's happened with ED for the last few years
>Everyone complains that their ship isn't THE ship.
>After a spectacular youtube video kill of something stupid like an Avenger Titan taking down an Idris, everyone purchases that particular ship and mimics their loadout, then proceeds to suck.
>Someone makes an SC Fashion website and it becomes a permanent link in the /SCG/ thread
>90% of orgs last about a month or two before losing all players because of stupid rules
>Someone discovers a money making bug and fights start over whether it's a feature or not and shit gets out of hand until CIG has to do a rollback
>Chinese gold farmers show up and start selling accounts and advertising their website. ED Forumdads point and hoot like retarded apes and use it as their argument why ED should never have player trading even though it's unrelated.
>Snekposting begins in earnest on /scg/
>Goons try pulling some EVE like shenanigans only to find out it doesn't work, get bored and leave for other games
>A big news article of how some player died when his shoddily homemade cockpit/battlestation collapsed on him, news stations interview irrelevant people and Jack Thompson desperately tries resurrecting his career.

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don't die.

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>>170196096
this is some kind of advanced 5th dimensional hyper-wrong. you're wrong in ways that don't even make sense in this universe, so your post just looks like a mess.

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>>170196384
>>Snekposting begins in earnest on /scg/

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>>170196384
>A big news article of how some player died when his shoddily homemade cockpit/battlestation collapsed on him

>wow kills players by sucking them in for long uninterrupted periods of time
>sc kills players immediately by compelling them to build dangerous contraptions out of wood and metal that collapse inward under their weight

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So I am playing Fallout 4 and while not as good as New Vegas with mods exploring is keeping me interested.
I realized this is because you would occasionally find a boss who had some rare weapon drop.
It hit me how amazing this would make elite dangerous exploration compared to what we have now.
Instead of picking up random crafting shit on a planet you can fight a hard as fuck enemy and grab a already modded weapon with random stats.

Then it hit me that most MMOs already have this system.
Elite:Dangerous is actually behind on the times compared to all those shitty Asian grindy MMOs.

Pic Unrelated

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>>170199898
Elite Dangerous needed 3-4 more years of core development before being released.

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>>170199148
He's probably referring to this part of some recent Gamestar article. Roberts says "We have a decent amount of money in reserve, so even if all funding suddenly stopped we wouldn't be unable to act. We plan the scope of development according to the monthly amount of funding. I'm not worried, because even if we wouldn't get any more money we'd have enough to finish S42. The profits from that could then be used for the completion of Star Citizen." He also said "Star Citizen isn't the kind of game you pack in a box and say 'hey, here's the game'. It's a live product. The point will come at which we say 'this is now the complete game' from a commercial perspective, but we plan to add new features and content after that".

>>170199898
This would have been a better idea

This would have been a MUCH better idea

>>170163716
>Have Engineered Grade 3 & 5 Max'd Efficient Beam Vette
> Get into Fighter, let AI take over Helm
> Orders.. Engage at Will.
> Sit outside the bubble, about 4-5km from the fight in GU-97.

> Wow. So much fun. AFK grind as Vette AI kills everything for me.

>>170201747
>actually trusting the AI with your main ship

you have a lot more faith then i do

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>>170201892
When the AI has my Vette, it's never lost a single Ring of Shields in a 17D CZ. It's an efficient killer. One that can go forever, until I blackscreen or Connection Error from Shitty ED.

I didn't spend hours training this Crewmember for nothing. He's my farmer.

>No one knows about this though... People actually manually fly for their kills...

>>170202408
what rank is he at might i ask?

>>170201747
are there ships that can launch multiple fighters you could conceivably get to run ai escort on your main ship?

also, do fighters not get obliterated by the bigger ships and shitty ai all prioritizing you in the czs?

>>170200282
Which is pretty funny since most people would expect that they could operate for multiple years without income. I mean, SC is one of the most well funded games ever.

Been away for 2 weeks. Can't be arsed reading this thread. Is 17 draconis still easy space dollar or is at ceasefire?

>>170202925
Chris Roberts also has a history of failed projects behind him. Just saying.

>>170203598
>CTRL + F
>17 Draconis
>???
>profit!

>>170202408
What's your loadout?

>>170203796
I did. The results seem undecided.

>>170203923

No more 17D for a while. Don't bother.

>>170205417
is it over?

>>170203728
Wtf I hate star citizen now

HIGH INTENSITY CZS NEAR EO

>>170208736
IO?

>>170203728
such as?

poo poo pee pee

>>170210825
Xd Reeee Pepe tendies!!111

Space legs?

so what is it exactly that were scooping from the stars that somehow fuels are ships?

>>170211229
cum

>>170211229
Gaseous/plasma hydrogen most likely.

>>170211229
poo poo pee pee

I'm running nothing but overcharged multicannons on my corvette
Is this retarded?

>>170213805

No. Once you get to the Corvette, you stop doing things for muh minmax and start doing things for fun. I got to the same level when I got to the Anaconda back before there was Vette/Cutter. Didn't give a shit about the most efficient setup, slapped a bunch of multicannons and one huge cannon and had a blast.

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>>170213805
Nope

Corvette is pretty good in PvE with Dirty Drive thrusters, making most weapon setups viable.

Also more dakka

>>170214807
>Corvette
>Fun

You seem to be forgetting the extra 500 jumps you just added to your play time.

>derek smart more like derek dumb

haha

>Go to a conflict zone
>only 3 ships flying around that I want dead
>the second after I join a faction 30 other ships materialize out of the ether
>every hostile ship targets me
>every module knocked out in under a second

THANKS FRONTIER

>>170219790

lrn2fly 10km out, wait for ships to spawn and begin fighting, then choose your faction...

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>>170216620
>not having enough money to chauffeur it around

I'm 3500ly into a passenger mission and I just turned the game on to see my mission failed. No notifications or anything.
I had like 3 weeks to do it. I didn't piss them off or anything, I'm assuming this is a bug.

I've heard some anons have contacted Frontier for compensation before, namely glitching out and clipping into a wall and blowing up. Now this is different but still fucked up, I've spent a few hours flying. I want my credits and Exploration rank.

How would I go about attempting this?

>>170221724
And now you're forgetting the extra 48 hours of waiting you have to do.

>>170221739

Contact support, you sperg. Take screenshots, give as many details as possible. The support staff is usually very lenient when it comes to stuff like this.

>>170203728
Silicon is a gas. Just saying.

>>170222548
Didn't know if they had support. Doing it now. Thanks.

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Bedtime bump.
Will we fly off a bengal is SQ42 do you think? I know most of it will be Idris.

>>170224424

We'll find out next week when SQ42 comes out.

What is best way to grind money is E:D at the moment?

>>170222971

Remember to include details, and don't be a whiny cunt. It also apparently really helps your case if you submit a BUG REPORT first. Not a support ticket, but a bug report, and link it in your ticket. I got refunded 15m due to a bug with smuggle jobs. I had >10 minutes of time left, but couldn't hand in the missions. I was so confused I forgot to take screenshots, so I had literally no evidence bar my words when I contacted support. They gave me 15m as a "gesture of good will", and asked me to make a bug report first next time.

>>170226384
Fuck, should I try and submit a report now, after the fact?
And I wasn't whiney. I used to have to deal with people like that, I know from experience it gets you no where lol.

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>>170224892

>>170228802

I haven't contacted support in over 6 months, but is there an option to add additional info to your ticket post-submission? If there is, make a bug report and then modify your ticket accordingly. If there's no such option, just wait and see.

You'll probably be fine either way. People (dads) have literally gotten their ships back after flying without rebuy money and getting destroyed just by whining to support about it.

>>170229423
Kek, then I'm set. I'm mostly just pissed cause now I'm in the middle of nowhere with no mission.
I wish I could just complete it. I would have gotten Elite in exploration.

>>170226251
17 Draconis / Quince Civil War if you have a decent fighter ship and/or a wing to roll with (even better if u got some healy beams)

Fehu/Quince surface scan suicide yolo runs if u ain't got a good ship. Good way to get some good data for engineering too. Just get a SRV and a system scanner and scan when u get close to the planet, ezpz.

Fehu is probably better for data missions despite the planet you need to go to being further away, since the missions tend to be more plentiful and more rewarding, and 17D is better for Civil war, but they are on opposite sides of the bubble quite far away, and Quince can do both, so just do whatever works.

Fehu can go into civil war too and that messes with the missions a bit but they still tend to be better.

Passenger transport missions can be good pay too but you need a pretty big ship in the first place to make it work for good money

also the robigo bug is working too, but it's gonna get patched by 2.3, then again so are scan and massacre stacking

>>170229678

>I wish I could just complete it. I would have gotten Elite in exploration.

You should subtly hint to this in your ticket, if you haven't already. They might reimburse your money with associated rank progression, though technically since you haven't even gone a quarter of the way they might compromise and just give you money. Who knows.

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reminder

>>170232418
Every time you post it I die a little bit

>>170234989
>tfw you have a fucking massive glorious triangle in either game

either title has its merits

Decided to give E:D another go, started watching a bit of The Expanse and it really gave me the urge to do some space trucking (even started watching Firefly for the first time, going to end up forcing myself to finish it though).

Decided to leave my HOTAS unplugged and try with a gamepad, and I'm enjoying it much more (still using trackir).

Managed to kill a few random bounties, still haven't been able to find the pirates in the system that are part of my first mission. Been to a few dozen signal sources and haven't found anything, and there's nothing else obvious in the system they might congregate around that I can see.

Got about 100k in the bank which isn't a lot but is enough to upgrade from my Sidewinder, but I'm not sure if I should hold off. I'm wanting something versatile (can do both trading, passengers and combat)

In regards to trading, are there any youtube videos explaining it? I struggled the last time I tried to play E:D, but I think part of the issue was trying to navigate the menu interface with a HOTAS, which is solved now.

Is there an easier way to determine what to sell and where, rather than travelling to separate stations and trying to manually work out the price differences between everything?

>>170195701
>You would need SC to be at least as disappointing as NMS for it to fail.
The jury is still out.

>>170235283
>still haven't been able to find the pirates in the system that are part of my first mission.

Try dropping from super cruise next to the nav beacon near the main start of the system, and scan it. Should give you an approximate location of your targets.

>Is there an easier way to determine what to sell and where, rather than travelling to separate stations and trying to manually work out the price differences between everything?

https://eddb.io/

This site has all you'll ever need regarding trading.

>>170235976
Scan the nav beacon?

Cheers I'll check it out, been playing for a few hours so going to take a break.

I'm positive I went to the nav beacon and had a look around, but could only see federal ships, didn't try scanning it (didn't think it was something you had to do).

Only other thing in the system was an unregistered beacon which was blurting out numbers, apparently that's part of some spooky event or something.

Cheers for the link.

In terms of ships, should I hold onto my sidewinder until I can upgrade to a cobra (seems an upgrade in every way) or upgrade sooner to something else?

>>170229836
>spoiler
That cant be right. I thought smuggling missions were gutted a year ago.

>>170236206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=147s_zNK-5Q
this was working last week for me

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>>170236206
>>170236446

>resurfacing exploits

what a time to be alive. maybe missile eagles when

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>>170236132
>In terms of ships, should I hold onto my sidewinder until I can upgrade to a cobra (seems an upgrade in every way) or upgrade sooner to something else?

Honestly depends on what you want to do. The Hauler is dirt cheap and can be upgraded to get a very respectable jump range OR decent cargo capacity for a starter ship. Pretty horrible at fighting, though. The Cobra will be an upgrade over the Hauler (and of course the Sidewinder) in everything except jump range, but costs ten times as much.

Pic related. Slightly outdated, but only for ships far out of your reach at the moment.

>>170202580
Deadly. Funny huh? Fucker isn't even max rank yet.

>>170203878
https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/federal_corvette?code=A2putpFklkdzsuf50w0w0u0r0r10100204040403040404B0fh5t2d2d2dm9m9m92b2b24.Iw18ZlA%3D.Aw18ZlA%3D.H4sIAAAAAAAAA42SP07DYAzFHdL0X0pDQpqGwpCSUCQoQzeGSrABCwscgCMwMjAycAxGbgDHYOjIgBBDxyIxVAhs%2FCiJxPRlsZ79e%2FYXObb4gIi%2BKxqiR5eo%2FuwQedmniCxxBKQ5eYlNFLZYpHOuphhpOvaIxOZe3u9df4kEV%2BoP7xTFN2qSCo8KfjFTfv%2Bmox0eo6oGalzq1Oa%2BFvtQm1Bb6B881bS%2Fzmf5RzgYWJ29i8SYlA6nam0YeNPAXQNvGfiygbcN3OMBuIX9xNgfkKzwUd7lvuruvBdFPlR8WCXKoMQvYwrKmMIypk4ZU1TG1OXT4rDwp32YsttVRWt8kh%2BGNbX%2FdhJDpfO5SA3pNvaYHH%2Fonnq8WzyHc%2FRHmIQg67xXIBQW6PdmN3j4H6G66Ep4p0APGtuTrk6FCnCOGZT0y5jkB4zlLrFaAwAA&bn=Laser%20Vette%203.5

I run an entirely seperate setup when I know my AI will be taking control. I take out my traditional Multi-cannon Vette build and slap on my Grade 5 BL build.

I spent a lot of time to make my Vette retarded, I'm not all the way yet, as I'm missing a few G5 engineer parts for things, but I'm pretty damn close.

The AI controls the Energy Management perfectly. I run Thermal Vent on all of the beams. He rarely misses and I've never seen him have to pop a Heat Sink. I usually turn off my shield Cell bank before I let him take control, so he doesn't pop a Cell without me wanting him too.

If you give your AI gimballed Weapons, he will turn them to Fixed or "Forward Fire" regardless, better to just give him Fixed so he has more damage output.

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>>170202884
AI actually leaves me the fuck alone in the CZ most of the time. I go so quick in my GU that when someone IS firing at me, I just barrel roll around and keep them off me. Funny enough, they seem to target the Vette more than me. I'll sit 3-4km away from any "Bubbles" going on. Browsing the forums or watching Hulu. With the Vette on Engage at Will, he will come back to me when there aint shit to shoot, but then zip out when new targets come into play.

It's ... It's really easy. Try it.

>>170119916
This fag actually predicted asteroid bases

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I haven't been keeping up with the Derek Smart drama, but are any of his claims valid or is he just desperately trying to stay relevant?

>>170239380
it was the cover of one of the older elite novels, he didn't predict shit

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updated?

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>https://a.uguu.se/O1jJwpProeVe.webm

Really pacos the tacos...

>>170246772
>site not available

>>170248410
Oh cool someone clicked on my phishing link

When my buccaneer inevitable disappoints me, should I swap it directly back for a freelancer or melt it and use some of my store credit to rebuy the Prospector I melted months ago?

>>170250671
I intend to use a prospector to get some of that rare ore dosh, but systems with those types of minable ores are probably going to be crawling with pirates, vanduul, mudcrabs and other dangers

>>170250846
I kinda doubt the games gonna work like eve where X ore only exists in a given("high level"/ low security) system, SC isn't an RPG after all. There is no leveling up.

who else /poopoopeepee/?

>>170251132
If it's anything like freelancer, there will be systems that have a high density of various ores, the ones that feature a lot of, say , gold will likely not be the friendliest of sytems

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>>170250671
You know what to do.

Bucc and Cutlass whatever.0 it is now in 2.6.2?
I have both but am on the fence about keeping them. If the cutlass doesn't fit in the Polaris hangar I will be far less likely to keep it.

>>170251309
damn that blanket looks comfy

>>170251462
Probably not, at least they're not in the schedule.
Also, the Cutlass likely never fit into the Polaris hangar in the first place, even before the rework. Just because it fits theoretically doesn't mean they'll allow you to actually carry it. The intention for hangars in ships seems to be a system using slots like the actual hangars. They said the Polaris fits anything up to a Sabre, so a Cutlass would probably be too large to be allowed to dock.

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Moving the gun to the top really rustles my jimmies. When will CIG learn that belly turrets look good on fighters and spinal turrets do not. It legitimately spoils my interest in the ship.

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>>170252224

Any idea when will ED - Horizons get a Steam discount?

I'm planning to buy it, but knowing my luck it will be on a discount 2 days after I buy it on full price...

Is there a reason to spend the 30k credits to buy a sidewinder rather than continue flying the 'loaned' one you get for free?

Also, how do I run away from pirates once I get jumped? I do full power to engines (for speed) and then any leftover in weapons I put into system (I assume that boosts shields), and spam boost as much as I can in a straight line to try and get out to 3km and get out of range, but I'm always dead within 5 seconds tops.

>>170252647
>Is there a reason to spend the 30k credits to buy a sidewinder rather than continue flying the 'loaned' one you get for free?

No.

>in a straight line

Wrong. You have to dodge the shots, you won't outrun them. You're in a shitstock Sidey, you won't last.

>>170252914
Cheers.

Having a weird issue.

Doing a delivery mission back to Worlidge, a station I went to yesterday and it took me about 20 seconds to get there.

Right now I'm in FSD and it's taking me about 5-10 minutes to get there. Going 500c atm, no idea what I'm doing wrong but this is weird.

>>170253205

Are you sure you don't need to hyperspace jump?

>>170253205
Nevermind, just realised it when I alt tabbed back in and was close enough for the other binary star to pop in.

Was traversing between two star systems that are close enough that warp drive plops you in the wrong one when travelling.

>it's a "derek smart has to bully sandi anonymously because he has a restraining order against him" episode

>>170252291
In other words, they could not figure it out, so they shit on the design instead of dealing with making it work. You can drive an Ursa under a Connie, but a Bucc can't go up a few inches to clear the main selling point? Thanks for phoning that one in CIG.

>>170253708
I really hope he end's up imprisoned or committed. His lunacy has gone way past harassment, slander and stalking.

>>170253708
>sandi
Is there any chance she is a really skinny Pence from the future?

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FUKKEN LMOA

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>>170254424
I wonder why he keeps doing this.