/svg/ shadowverse general

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Wew guess I'll make Heavenly Aegis unbeatable

Daira decks still T1?

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Why is this deck so fun? Its been working on rank AA so far.

>>170092701
Not being targetted and not being affected are two different things, I think. I think not being affected means that even non-target removal like themis and khawy won't be able to touch him. And to be honest, look at him. Those are buildings and hills and shit below him. He's fucking HUGE.

>Everyone freaking out about Aerin and claiming Forest is the dev's pet class
It's Maahes all over again

>Every thread is consistently early
Hey janitor, how about you do your fucking job and deal with this autist?

>>170092829
This

>>170092829
your tears will be delicious

>>170092702
Yea but sword's winrate is generally better. Daria's like second best.

let's list counters to aegis:

Wards

Kaguya

:????

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>>170092702
Is this good to climb with?

Deck with
>most heals
>most destroy and banish
>guardian sun wards
>damage debuffs
>Seraph
Is the one that gets a literraly invulnerable 8/8.

>>170092924
selphis

>>170092924
Every class is going to get a "Reduce enemy's attack to 1" card this expansion

and you HAVE to run it

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Match ID 35874
Still looking for anons to get all the achievements
ID 47420
Will do concedes and games. Spam hello for concede

>>170092701
Aegis already has a better form of immunity than immunity to targted effect. the only cards that work on it are tangling vines and Incandescent dragon. (right now)

>>170092829
>It's Maahes all over again
What thats supposed to mean? Mahees is played in every Forest deck that isn't Roach. Its just that Roach is so much better that the others don't see play. That doesn't make Mahees a bad card, its a extremly good card.

>>170092829
Maahes requires combo, this is a no strings attached. The card is still shit though, because it doesn't revolve around the "20 damage roach from hand" gameplan. It just might make Silverbolt OTK slightly better, but that's not gonna cut it in turn 9verse.

I'm more mad about them giving fucking cards CBlood is starved for to other fucking classes. Ward+Heal+removal, everything CBlood needs, but doesn't have, instead we're stuck using the piece of shit 4/4 for 6 and 1/1 wards 3 expansions in, when it wasn't even that good in standard.

>>170092924
Seraph

>>170092920
it's literally means nothing

more retards play daria

sword is heavily cucked by wards too

>>170092924
>wards
>when the faggot can t9 aegis t10 baha

>>170092924
The haven dragon that reduces attack by 2
>>170093031
>Must play cards
>Odin
>These
>Olivia
So fun, Cygames, so fun.

>>170092924
You COULD woodkin curse him but couldn't deal any damage to him afterwards.

>>170093134
Aegis is Baha new best friend

> 15 loss streak with dragon(50k vials, "T1 deck")

What a shit game. Why don't they just remove dragon?

Not mine, but i saw on reddit:

>Guys relax regarding Aegis.

>He can still be removed by hard removal spells like DoD (I hope). Take a look at the official sites guide:

https://shadowverse.com/gameguide/


>According to this guide abilities only applies to Followers and is only used in this context. Spells have Effects. The word ability is not used for Spells. I think this is one of the cases where wording is incredibly important!

>>170092927
Add 2 iceforms instead of wind blasts, also add 1 piercing rune instead of kaleido, missile or angelic. Now u can climb to masters.

>>170092701
Repeat after me, "UNAFFECTED BY OTHER CARD'S ABILITIES".

>>170093210
>T1 deck
No one said its T1.

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Leave Heavenly Aegis to me.

>>170093214
reddit should be banned.

>>170093108
>it's literally means nothing

Shut up nigger

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Hey /svg/ I started like 3 days ago after saw Hearthstone """"""daily rewards""""""" and so far having a blast.
My questions are
1) How to improve this deck step by step to make it T1-2
2) I am planning to farm low ranks for score rewards (its supposed to be something like 100 wins for last tier if I am correct) Is this good idea?
3) what packs should I buy first?
4)is it true that buying multiple packs nets better rewards than singles?

>>170093214
Eng translation was wrong before

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Fuck Haven.

>>170093148
>The haven dragon that reduces attack by 2
it has 8 attack, 10 when evolved

not exactly a counter my dude

>>170093214
If spells have effects and not abilities then it dies to 3-5 mana removal like a chump.

>>170093320
3/3 for 3 no downside?

ERM

>>170093075
>Mahees is played in every Forest deck that isn't Roach.
I have 7 different decklists for wolfbolt and PTP variants open right now, all of which disagree with you
crystalia tia and fairy beast are flat better, and by the time you shove in all the copies of those you want there's no room for maahes

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>>170093053
This one too.

>>170092701
He doesn't need it and he can't even get her buff even if you wanted to.

>>170093210
>He fall for t1 dragoncuck meme

>>170093210
>t1
There are no tier 1 decks that aren't Rune or Forest. You could argue that Sword MAYBE makes the cut, but it's still too easy to counter in comparison to Daria nuts, D.Shift, and roach.

>>170093214
i personally have the same question, what's abilities and what's effects

from aegis' text right now it indeed looks like it can be doded

>>170092924
Giant Slayer?

Tsubasa?

>>170093397
Well, if you evolve the dragon, it will counter him. If you heal it next turn.

OKAY WHO HERE IS GOING TO DOD THIS DUDE DAY 1?

>>170092924
shadow's 500 bane cards

>>170093435
>midriff window
I want to fuck that rabbit.

>>170093373
You should just go full aggro.
Dances of death and alberts would help.

>>170093514
Try reading the card.

>>170093514
nope

>>170093470
In the original japanese text the example they used where effects don't affect aegis were destroy and banish, which means hard removal can't remove him.

>>170093435
>2 of the counters to this bullshit are haven as well
lmao! cygames!

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>>170093385

Where's the obligatory cute girl?

>>170093214
You have to go back. Kill yourself.

>>170093214
>Spend 9 mana to get DoD
>Retards believe this is going to happen
How fucking stupid do you to be to think they'll make a legendary from their new expansion be countered by a low rarity staple half its cost?

>>170093514
Immune

>>170092927
I would replace wind blasts with witchettes otherwise yeah. Kglow and fates had are questionable, I run a similar list to you but with dance of death over fates hand

>>170093320
Jesus fucking Christ the art for that game is atrocious.

>>170093035
Kicked to screen for daily
New ID for 47420 is 34240
47420 to 77376

>>170092924
Literally any hard removal.

>>170093587
Bane is an ability.

>>170093573
DoD is a card, fucking retard. Read Aegis again.

>>170093385
who is this fucker lore wise anyway? I mean Bahamut is supposed to be the strongest being in that universe

>>170093587
did you bother to read that no abilities affect it part?

>>170093618
destroy and banish can be both attached to followers and to spells, apparently they can be abilities only if they are attached to followers like odin or sledgehammer exorcist or giant slayer etc

>>170093373

1 - depends if you want aggro or control, but an Albert is needed for both which you lack.

2 - Playing rank normally you'll get the rewards eventually

3 - Depends which cards you want, also a new set will be availble in a month or so and people are saving. If you want cards for sword the Rise of bahamut deck has some good cards like Amelia and Albert

4- No

>>170093637
Inside the armor, piloting it.

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>>170093094
I don't really play blood, but it's really fucking baffles me how blood doesn't have a single fucking non meme ward outside of Queen Vampire and Veight. It's ridiculous desu.

That said, a card like Kamura will be even more fucking broken in blood because blood has a shitload of other healing sources while shadow has none outside of Orcus.

>>170093768
>8/8 is stronger than 13/13
Well...

>>170093637
>double the size of a human being
>heavenly aegis dwarfs buildings themselves

I can't get over how big this guy is.

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>>170093573
I can't wait to see Tsubaki or Odin hit the board randomly when I play best boy Aegis. It's gonna be hilarious.

>>170093554
>Well, if you evolve the dragon, it will counter him
the dragons not gonna live longer than 1 turn no matter what m8

>there are people in this thread who think "CAN'T BE AFFECTED by ANY other CARD's abilities" means you can DoD it

>>170093696
>what is atomeme

>>170093869

He's a big guy

>>170093094
>I'm more mad about them giving fucking cards CBlood is starved for to other fucking classes
oh boo fucking hoo
control forest has been dead in the water ever since PTP/roach elf consolidated its STD decklist, while control blood has taken multiple chances to come back as a FOTM strong contender
if you love vampy that much fuck off back to gbf

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>>170093784

>uncounterable cards
that's it, enjoy while you can because this expansion is gonna be shittier than RoB

>>170093951
Well DoD is an effect not ability.

>>170093868
>Bahamut can be killed by a 0/2 bane
>this card is literally unkillable
well...

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>>170093963
for you

>>170093373
Add some alberts and your deck is fine.
for a new player you can use this till A
Cards thar you should consider:
Amelia
Blitz lancer
Aurelia
Monika
Fangblade
Frontguard
Bahamut

>packs
buy RoB packs they have a lot of tools for Csword

>>170093768
Bahamut can't get killed. H-he just gets a bit tired trying to fight this guy is all!

>>170093874
I had a retard try to Tsubaki my hexproof Aurelia yesterday on AA. You can be sure this will happen incredibly often.

>>170093768
Baha has like 4 more forms.

>>170093951
because dod doesn't have an ability, it has an effect

>>170093869
those can be goblin/dork buildings

Hey guys too lazy to check but it's until 10th March for that Granblue event right? Been busy with Horizon so not got around to doing them yet.

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>>170093731
What do you mean? Shadowverse is the game with the bad art.

>>170094054
You talking lore or game mechanics?

>>170093981
>Think of the poor tier 1 class that's been plaguing this game since day 1!
You can't make this shit up.

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>tfw all that's left to earn is flairs

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YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARD

LOOK AT THIS 2/2 BITCH

> Can't be targeted by enemy spells and effects.

IT CAN'T BE TARGETED BY FOLLOWER ABILITIES EITHER, YET IT'S CALLED OUT AS SPELL/EFFECTS

LEARN TO FUCKING READ YOU MORONS

>aegis isn't affected by bane!
then I guess he's also not affected by wards huh

it's a card ability after all

huh? huh? huh?

>>170094176
lore but the other retarded started bringing up game mechanics

>>170093385
Should I start playing Haven now?

What do I have to do to marry the goblin princess?

>>170094165
10th 6 days to do

>>170094216
i think she can be banished by odin, can't she

>>170094237
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. It makes sense.

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>>170094237

>people complaining about aegis
>its a 9 PP turn 10/11 win the game.
>it's still a turn 9 do nothing.

if you lose because of Aegis hit your face, you probably would have lost anyways from any other haven win conditions. It only really fucks other control decks.

>>170094049
Same shit. The ability of the CARD DoD is to cause an EFFECT called Destroy.

>>170094237
Yes you are clearly correct anon

>>170094237
wouldn't surprise me if he was able to bypass ward

>>170094237
Ward affects the opposing player, not their cards. Aegis still has to beat past them.

Or they could just Themis you bro.

In which deck Aegis could fit in?

>>170094186
>c-classes are the only category that matters!
I hope blood gets pigeonholed into an aggro class forever you fucking nonce

>>170094216
No one knows what's the difference between effects and abilities and if it even exists or it's a translation error.

>>170093373
>1) How to improve this deck step by step to make it T1-2
Netdeck the deck you want to play, if you're playing sword, look for good midrange sword cards. If you want to grind out dust for a specific card, your first priority should be Albert.
>2) I am planning to farm low ranks for score rewards (its supposed to be something like 100 wins for last tier if I am correct) Is this good idea?
Score rewards are pretty damn negligible past a point, you're better off just trying to win and rank up in my opinion.
>3) what packs should I buy first?
RoB or Standard, standard has more useful cards but RoB has Albert
>4)is it true that buying multiple packs nets better rewards than singles?
Almost 100% sure it is not, the odds for packs are listed. (they have to be legally in Japan I think)

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How the fuck do i stop winning?

>>170094338
No she can't

>>170094335
Thanks for confirming mate. Between work, Horizon and real life stuff not had much time for Shadowverse. I'll get around to them shortly.

How many free packs so we get every new expansion?

Just ask for a clarification on twitter already, goddamn.

aegis removed, too confusing for /b18yog/

>>170094237
oh for fucks sake

If this is the case I'll eat my fucking pants on stream.

>>170094430
>Ward affects the opposing player, not their cards
wut

wards affect your followers
they can be bypassed by a follower if you buff your follower with ethereal form

>>170094443
Just make a new Control Haven deck with this and Bahamuts. You can also play it on Elana.

>>170094484
By getting out of A.

>>170094443
Literally any haven deck.
>1-5 actual gameplay
>6 themis
>7 second themis
>8 seraph
>9 aegis
>10 bahamut

>>170094338
no, odin targets it.

>>170094237
that makes sense, but they'll really have to clarify it. I think the magazine that published aegis was confused about that too.

>>170093981
Control forest isn't used not because it's bad but because Roach and Tempo are just so incredibly fucking good. It's the class's own fault.
Control blood is downright meme tier.

>>170094484
>A0
Post dick anyway, I'm in A too and I don't want to climb with Daria.

>>170094593
>Literally any haven deck
b-but I play storm haven

>>170094443
Sun Satan now becomes Sun Aegis. Yes, Aegis doesn't get ward, but its a better wincon than Satan, because it comes on board a turn earlier, and you don't have to play lottery with the apocalypse deck, or pray they don't have Bahamut.

It changes literally nothing, other than Haven vs Ramp match up. Every other aggro deck still wins by rushing, or loses to Cudgel/Lion Spirit/heals/Themis, and every combo deck is still favored, because le turn 8 timer.

>>170094593
>>8 seraph
>>9 aegis
>>10 bahamut

:^)

>>170094593
But I play eidolon

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WOW GUYS

Guess what? Dragon has a 8/8 for one less mana

OMFG SO BROKEN CYGAMES PLS NERF

>>170094387
>It only really fucks other control decks.
dshift exists only to fuck control decks and is pretty goshdarn viable despite that
now haven gets to fuck control decks while running its entire stall/control package so it doesn't automatically die to aggro
I'm always willing to entertain the possibility that the sky isn't falling and this one card won't be the end of the world, but you're a delusional contrarian if you can't see that people's reactions to aegis are based on something substantial

>>170094553
how? The progress is too slow. I keep fucking winning yet my rank barely increases

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Surprice.
Fuck losing to being unlucky not drawing a single of him tough.

>>170094443
- It is affected by Elana's Prayer, so it could be a wincon for this deck.
- Aegis may be played instead of Satan.
- Aegis may spawn his own archetype that'd be hard control like Seraph, but without all the countdown cards, and maybe with Bahamut to help deal with the "T9 do nothing".

Basically, it can fit in any deck besides Storm, and even be his own deck. It's a wincon in itself after all, even if it's slow as fuck.

control is now completely dead again! thanks cygames!

>>170094636
What's stopping you from teching one in? It doesn't require countdown reduction like seraph, it can be evolved, so its not as dead as seraph.

>>170094387
you'd lose regardless because haven opponent would probably have a seraph to play on t8

>>170094742
>It is affected by Elana's Prayer
it's a card ability....

>>170093603
>>170093778
>>170094093
>>170094482
Gotcha senpaitachi, Albert is name of the game and RoB is the way.

>>170094824
RTFC

>>170094824
That changes its stats. And his stats can be changed.

>>170094742
As if Elana needs more wincons.

>>170094824
Which changes it's stats which, guess what, the only ability he's affected by.

>>170094824
Read the card again.
>Can't be affected by any other card's abilities except for those that change this card's attack or defense.

Elana works.

>>170094756
finally

>people acting as if card text in this game is Yu-Gi-Oh! PSCT levels of autism
It's obviously intended to be a card that can't be removed by no means, this fucking "effect is different from ability" shit doesn't exist. Is that so hard to undersand?.

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This is the cutest card ever
I don't even care how viable it is, I'm putting 3 in every deck
FUCK SHE'S SO CUTE

>>170094756
>Control is dead, because we're getting control cards, not because D.Shift has no viable counter, or comboverse
Hating Haven is becoming a cult over here.

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>>170094443
control haven

>>170094939
goblin doujin when?

>>170094939
gobu is cuter

>>170094939
>goblin princess
>human
rape doujins when?

>>170094968
>Its either aggro, or play dim shift, or play haven
Nice meta

>>170094968
Dshit is as cancerous as it gets, doesn't somehow absolve Haven from being cancer too.
At least Dshift can die to aggro. Haven does not.

>>170094529
>implying intern kun will respond

>>170094928
People are used to exact wordings of things being the difference between a card that will fuck you in the ass and garbage, but yeah, I doubt you'll be able to do anything to Aegis besides throwing wards in front of it or the one thing they'll print that does -10 max hp to things.

>>170094928
that's like saying aurelia is "obviously intended to be a card that can't be removed" by means other than combat, except she dies just fine to lurching/WotF/erasmus/etc/etc
if "targeted" has a specialized meaning that differs from its common usage, so can "effect"

How many wins do you need in take 2 to break even and how many for getting a free run?

>>170093035
Finished hosting games for the day. Thanks everyone

>>170095024
>human

Has it been officially confirmed that keywords like Drain, Bane, ect that get bolded are also considered regular abilities?

>>170095024
>knife ears
>human

sure m8

>>170094968
Dshift rune at least loses to aggro.
Haven now beats everything and has no counter. Very cool design choices.

>>170094909
>As if Elana needs more wincons.
It doesn't, but you can be absolutely certain that they WILL play Aegis. Prepare your anus, because it'll happen.

Elana's entire gameplan is to stall until t6 for Themis, and then establish a board, buff it, and kill you. Your gameplan against Elana is to destroy absolutely every single follower to deny them a big board. Now, guess what happens when they play a follower that you can't remove? Yeah...

>Play Aegis
>Opponent plays bahamut
>Play another Aegis
:^)

Fug I wanna make aegis deck now

>>170095182
I wonder how long before 20/20 Aegis are the norm.

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>>170094459
https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/101711090
Set the page to Japanese and the text reads
>相手の能力で選択できない。
"能力" is translated as "ability" by Google and it has the same characters that apear in the scan in the second panel of this comic.

>>170095194
>not playing your own bahamut to kill his bahamut but keep your own towering ornate heaven robot alive

>>170095134
3 plus

>>170094684
0.3/10

also just realized that the lava is actually gold

>>170095097
No shit Haven doesn't die to fucking aggro you god damn retard. What the fuck would it beat, if it can't beat combo, aggro, and goes 50/50 with control decks that run Odin (all of them). The fucking class is the second least played, and has negative winrate in EVERY SINGLE RANK BRACKET, what the fuck more do you want?

>>170095265
>multiple elanas on board
>healing waters and bunny healers
One turn

>>170095194
>unzips nep

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>>170093869
Servant of Satan is like twice the size of a mountain.

>>170094443
The only possible deck is Elana.

Seraph needs various dogmas in hand to finish at turn 9.

Storm haven, nah this card is not necessary there.

Doesn't work with Guardian sun.

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Quick. Think of a new lego for each class that is potentially as broken as Aegis.

>>170095327
It deserved that after that cancerous in DE. Now it'll be DE all over againm, but worse.

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Cygames is finally giving to chemo good win-con cards.


Chemo Aegis! sister we can be powerfull now.

>>170095178
>beats everything and has no counter.
Gee, I wonder which tier 1 decks this reminds me of from shadowverse history
Oh, that's right, all of them
Well rounded decks beat anything if they get to draw the right cards, and beat nothing if they brick. This isn't a new phenomenon, no matter how much it gets your rocks off to be hysterical about aegis

>>170093637
Is that Ornstein?

>3 Aegis 3 Odin
>Farm all control and unga, auto concede to all combo
Business as usual, just a better Seraph really.

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seeing all this aegis panic makes me wonder what kind of op shit blood got

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>>170093960
Something that's from Standard and come out Turn 2

>>170095478
>aegis
>broken

ahh D1

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Please concede

40658

>>170095489
>cerous in DE. Now it'll be DE all over agai
B0? the cancer of DE was sword and forest.

twitter.com/shadowversegame

New reveals.

>>170095567
>dshift still wrecks your anus

>>170095127
>>170094049
>>170094142
>>170093214

GTFO ability fags >>170095286

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>>170095474

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So what? this card gives Aegis +1/+2, but not ward?

How are you all saving recordings?

>>170095327
>control decks are running odin to deal with nephthys/mordecai, and seraph is the meme deck that gets caught in the crossfire
I never expected the RoB meta to evolve in this direction

>>170095631
nothing because its not haven lmao

HOW THE FUCK DO I GET MORE EARTH SIGILS HELP ME I KEEP RUNNING OUT OF THEM

>>170095489
>It deserved that for DE
and what did it deserve for being the least played class with the lowest playrate for all of vanilla? Oh wait, you didn't know that, because you didn't actually play the game that far back, you only played at the very end of DE when b rank was flooded with storm Haven, even though tempo Forest and midrange Sword were the tier 1 decks.

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>tfw haven can prepare a sick aegis turn with death sentence and tribunal
>drop it without risk
>drop bahamut afterwards
>drop another aegis to counter their bahamut drop
>literally bullying every dragon off the ladder forever

>>170095654
Don't come back crying in a few weeks when your precious Odin can't do shit against it.

>>170094387
I'm just sad that Dirt is dead and can't bully hags anymore.
Unless we get an answer to Aegis or a way to give Timeless ambush.

>>170095631
2pp
1 4 ward
deal 2 damage to your leader.

and thats all

>>170095681
old reveals*

we already knew about these cards

>>170095681
Nothing new, just official translations.

>>170095738
Post dick,

>>170094484
You'll stop winning so much starting at A3.

>>170095631
Only bronze revealed for blood.

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This new MidRange is pretty neat

>>170095478
>Dire Wolf of Eldwood
>Storm
>Fanfare: Gain +1/+1 for each card in your hand. Randomly put one of the highest-cost Forestcraft cards from your deck into your hand at the start of your next turn. Change its cost to 0.

>>170092924
hamsa

anyone else get the feeling that hamsa would get played a lot more often if he wasn't an ugly meme duck?

>>170095813
There better be a 2 PP follower that lets me give that card +1 attack.

>>170095631
One of RoB's problems is that all the control decks had to resort to neutralcraft to close games, besides CSword and Forest. The thing is, Dragon is the best craft to abuse those neutral decks, so CBlood / Sun Satan were basically inferior versions of Saha Ramp Dragon.
I am almost certain that they will print something good for CBlood, on the level of Aegis. Baphomet can be used to setup a combo with Azazel, but it's not enough, it's too memey.

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>>170095857
>tfw 6 losing streak at A2

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>>170095809
Sorry pal, i can actually finish the game before turn 10

>>170095937
enjoy autolosing to aegis

>>170095702
is not that hard to understand you subhuman.

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>>170095664
Thanks

I think you've helped me in dailies a couple of times now

>>170095738
stop running garbage earth rites lamo

>>170095779
>Vanilla
It was a slow defensive deck. Same thing for earth rune.

>>170095937
>Aggro with Maid Leader and Tsubaki
>Midrange

>>170095702
No, it probably works. You just found the combo, congrats. You can end the game on T10 with this card probably.

>>170096049
Is that a new card that's gonna be released? Why the fuck would I care about shit that's not even in the game yet?

>>170095286
Wouldn't mordekai be happy to have an opponent he can have an endless duel with?

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Aegis shitposting is the new WTF I DROPPED LIZA WHY IS THEMIS KILLING MY BOARD isn't it?

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>>170095834
yes, i know i need more levis and taboos. what should i get rid of, though?

>>170095990
>I am almost certain that they will print something good for CBloo
Stop being delusional cyganes already show the new 2pp card of the expabsion.

>>170096147
B-but muh 6 cost.
B-but muh turn 9

>>170096095
Who is this semen demon? Looks like forte but does she even use a shield?

>>170094443
Neutral-Craft with Haven as the "Host Class". Helps end game curve right out with shaq>lucifer>aegis>bahamut

>>170096147
Aggro retards do this in every game. They put 2 aggressive cards that cost 5 or 6 mana (Albert, Highmane, Tsubaki, Call of the Wild) in their pure face deck, and call it midmeme.

>>170095691
>google translate

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>>170096226
It's Forte. She has a big spear.

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>>170096178
The duel is likely to end the next turn.

>>170096193
Shut the FUCK up

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>>170096214
>>170096214
any change to my aggro seraph?

>>170095790
The only answer is for Dragon to get a 4 mana ramp and 6 mana ramp so that they can drop Bahamut turn 5
Just in time for Themis, bro

>>170096342
>They put 2 aggressive cards that cost 5 or 6 mana (Albert, Highmane, Tsubaki, Call of the Wild) in their pure face deck
Thats literally what midrange means you retard.

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>5th Bahamut lego in a row
Fuck off you dumb dragon

>>170095937
>new
>midrange

>>170096381
I can see the lance in her right hand but her left hand looks like a shield.

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>When even the best memes cannot save you
Best boy is too mighty.

>>170096226
Belial.

>>170095631
Legendary
10pp
0/1
Change your leaders' defense to 1

>>170096412
Banish doesn't kill him. It probably just sends him to a different dimension or some shit. Doesn't kill him.

>Haven can barely find time to drop seraph on turn 8
>someone they're going to be able to drop aegis on turn 9 (keep in mind this doesn't even win them the game the next turn, it's literally just a slightly faster mordecai)
Good thing Cygames doesn't listen to you C rank shitlords

>>170096507
Run Odins

So I just hit A1 and kinda worried, is AA really full of tryhards? I really don't want to stuck in there especially with the new expansion coming soon. Should I just sandbag in A?

>>170096342
I don't like it either, but since oldschool unga sword got to be called """midrange""" just by running otohime and sage commander, I have to accept that this is just how shadowverse does its nomenclature

>>170096475
The deck is new, yes. It's a new MidRange deck.

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how is my aggro mage going?

>>170096507
kys swordcuck

>>170096540
>>170096481
He's right actually.
I didn't even know. dey arr rook same

>>170096552
If some people can find the time to drop Satan, someone can find the time to drop this dude.

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>>170094542

Gaining an ability that ignores another does not change how the ignored ability works in general.

>>170096185
You have more than enough Sygils.
The problem is that Veteran Alchemists and RemiRami eat those up, you have to get rid of a few of them.
3x Calamitous is overkill.
You want 3x Red Hot, it's a bronze so fucking get it.
You can also bounce Dwarf with Kaleido for an extra Earth Essence

>>170096584
gb2 >>>/hsg/ faggot

I haven't been here in a while, redpill me on Aegis?

>>170096562
A is no longer sandbag you are in the big boy league now enjoy the hell

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>this is a goblin princess
explain this retards

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>>170096561
No need, i meant him with memes can't save you.
All mordecais were played in one turn and couldn't attack my tsubaki.

>>170096782
Not really, I still see people doing dumb shit but with actual decks.

>>170096776
The most busted card in the game. Ladder will be 50% Aegis and 50% Dshift
Just go back

>>170096776
He's probably got a big dick.

>>170096818
Goblin females look like elves when young and turn green when older.

>>170096776
Trash

Phoenix roost discard dragon will be the next T1

>>170092924
Zeus

>>170096818
The ears? She's obviously a goblin, goblins have long ears

>>170096776
9 mana 8/8 that is immune to everything but stat changing, like elana's buffs

>>170095972
he is useless on an empty board and weak unless the enemy has a follower with at least 3 attack (if they have a follower with less than 3 attack, hamsa is worse than any meta 2/2 2pp drop because he has no additional effect except his attack damage gimmick), i.e. he is weak when he is used on curve, and when he is used outside of it he dies to any cheap removal

>>170096818
goblin (girls) looks like knife ears and males looks like goblins.

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>>170096620
Pretty good, check out my midrange Dragon. Notice the 2 ( T W O!) 2 drops? Very aggressive!

>>170096907
Best thing Zeus can do is delay the rape train for 2 turns whilst possibly setting up lethal.

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>>170095510
I'm pretty hyped for Aegis but I hope for a new lego for Storm Haven too.

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>venomous pucewrym
>a T5 8/9 with evolve
now THIS is powercreep

>>170096941
Finally I can play a minion without having to worry about it being immediately removed

>>170096776
Read the thread, there's a lot of discussion about the card.

>T9 Aegis
>T10 Power of protection (+1/+2 and ward)
>Aegis 9/10 Ward LITERALLY UNKILLABLE

A T10 wincon for Haven. Slower than Seraph, but require less combo pieces.

>>170096776
Dies to DoD oh wait... :^)

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>>170096818
they steal elf females when they are young.

Aegis now reads "Can't attack the enemy leader if 2 or more enemy followers are in play."

Balanced?

>>170096684
thanks, I'll keep 3x calamitous though, since I don't like losing to neph

>>170096185
Levi is much more important than Remi/Rami, they aren't that strong of a tempo play anymore. Drop them for 2 Levis.
Get a third Redhot Ritual and a third Gobu.
Drop Apprentices, they are weak and a waste of Sigils.
Price of Magic is just trash in general.
2 Taboos is fine, more is unnecessary.
I'd drop 1 Veteran, since, most of the time, you don't want to see her turn 4.
I'd recommend getting at least 1 Juno's, ideally 2. It's just too much value on one card, even if sometimes it might be a bit slow when you don't have a Sigil.
You need a win con. Bahamut by itself is not reliable enough; 1 Satan or 1 PtP should be good enough,
Olivia is important, since you want to be using evolves all the time on Alchemist to tutor out cards or Levi to clear.
You can drop 1 Calamitous as well if you need space, since, unlike Themis, the Sigil cost makes it dead sometimes, especially against non-Daria/Nep decks.

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>>170096342
i like my midrange blood, it has 5 6pp cards - 3 imp lancers and 2 demonic storms :^)

JEANNE IS CUTE

>>170097002
Not if you fit him into Saha ramp

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>9 pp do nothing
Duude
Just like
Spellboost your destroyers lmao

>>170096776
A backup plan when your Seraph gets odined. Only really playable in control mirrors because a T9 do nothing is a death sentence otherwise.

>>170097041
Why would it get Ward, you fucking retard? The only thing that affects it is stat changes.

>>170096358
The point is that the characters for "effect" and "ability" are the same, retard.

>>170096358
Good job disregarding the fact that the same moonrunes are in both texts.

>>170097041
Ward doesn't affect aegis you fucking neanderthal

>>170095134
4 wins is 130-140 rupies
5 wins is over 200 rupies
So you need to average 4.1 wins to go infinite

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Concede pls
31826

>>170097209
>A backup plan when your Seraph gets odined
i'd better pack some baha/santa

>>170097240
google translate experts will translate the card text the most correctly, we should trust them

>>170097209
No, your second Seraph is your backup plan when your first Seraph gets Odined.

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>>170092539
D shift is literally one of the worst decks in the game and i firmly believe its a tier 3 deck. Before you call me a shitter heres some background on me
>masters
>over 400 ladder games and 2 actual tournaments with d shift

First off heres whats wrong with d shift. Its wincon cannot be fucking tutored, oh hurr durr you have a 20% chance of getting d shift out of your only 2 merlins. But you have absolutely NO way of getting your flame destroyers except for praying that you get lucky

Second the decks turns 1-evo point are so fucking terrible. This is why aggro decks completely run over d shift. If you mull for board clear, you dont have a win con, if you mull for d shift and flame destroyer, you will die by turn 5. The only way to win against aggro is to pray to god you get removal and card draw and have d shift and flame destroyer ready to go by turn 7.

Third its is actual win con. Its complete fucking shit. If you have an absolutely god draw, ie you got a d shift, flame destroyer, and insight in your opening hand. The earliest you can kill if you curve absolutely perfectly is turn fucking 7. While that seems pretty fucking decent this is with a GOD curve, most of the time youll realistically be killing from turn 8 (if you soften them up with levi and piercing rune and they have no healing/wards) to turn fucking 11 (even longer then that if you dont get a d shift or flame destroyer by turn 5.)

Anyone who refutes this post and says d shift is op and im just shit is completely fucking delusional and most likely A0 or lower. I've tried numous times to make d shift work but it just doesnt in a meta where people just hit face and kill you turns 6-8

Tl;dr: D shift is complete fucking shit dont waste your vials on this.

where the fuck are the dragon win conditions? why the fuck doe heaven keep getting so many

>>170097013
>implying anything sticks to the board unless its spell immune or in ambush in removalverse
They could make a 20/20 5-drop and it wouldn't matter

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post yfw Aegis will be a meme lego like skullfane

>>170096818
What do I have to do to marry her?

>>170097391
dude just forte/genesis haha

>>170097236
>>170097319
>Can't be affected by any other card's abilities except for those that change this card's attack or defense.
Let me reword it. Aegis is unaffected by any card that doesn't affect its stat. Which means that, any card that affect its stats will work on Aegis.

You can grant Ward to Aegis with Power of Protection.

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>unsheates mr skeltal
>heal for 8
nothin personel aegis

>>170097385
kys

>>170097353
thanks Vampy-chan

>make deadly tyrant deck
>don't draw tyrant in 6 games
Ok now I get the problems with this deck

>>170096657
The artist has a severe case of same face syndrome.

>>170097463
???? it literally has no counters it doesn't fucking work

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>>170097412

>>170097391
Genesis Dragon
Polyphonic Roar
Forte
Wildfang OTK
JO
Dragon has the most fucking wincons you dunce

>>170097463
if only you could read

>>170097013
>5pp do nothing
It's shit

guys I need a cheap dwagon deck for the 9 wins

>>170097378
>Satan
>need to draw into ass and dis
>Aegis
>just fucking stomp them
>more chance to draw into removal to remove whatever is in your way or themis to remove everything in its path
>one mana cheaper

>>170097457
>ATTACK OR DEFENSE

>>170097617
>cheap
>dragon
>wins
Pick one and a half

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What if they give dragon a timestop 10 pp follower that stops the amout of pp from increasing for both players?

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>>170097592
>>170097563
>bishopfags this desperate

>>170097385
>I won two tournaments with dshift, but it's totally bad you guys! Don't play it!
who are you trying to convince

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SKYKNIGHTS

>>170097385
>Autowin against control
>WAAAHHHH WHY DO I LOSE TO AGGRO SOMETIMES
kys dshitter

>>170097457
>Aegis is unaffected by any card that doesn't affect its stat
Aegis is unaffected by any card ABILITIES that do something other that change its stats
Can't anyone fucking read?

>>170097457
Dude

Please read this shit right

>Can't be affected by any other card's abilities except for those that change this card's attack or defense.

ABILITIES, PLURAL. A card has more than one ability.

If you use Power of Protectin on argis it'll get the + attack but not ward.

>>170097617
Do budget discard

>>170097617
Wildfang OTK if you already have alter fates

>unpacked a second imperial dragoon

sigh

alright someone hand over the decklist

>>170097735
Card.
Not Followers, or Spells, Card

>>170097681
what non cheap dragon deck wins then

>>170097617
make a neutral deck

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>>170097617
pic related can work.

yoi also can ram and drop your fattiblegos

>>170097706
Where did i say i won? Most of the tournaments d shfit was holding me back but i absolutely love the deck so i kept playing it.
>>170097732
Nice delusion

>>170097385
>A deck that automatically wins against an entire archetype no questions asked has a bad match up against another archetype
Things that make you go hmmm.

>>170097730
Albert is so fast he could spitroast you by himself.

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http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1
Is this Take Two guide from the OP pastebin still a viable method of farming Take Two? Should I do this if I want to make my rupees go further?

Maids.

>>170097831
Card abilities you fucking illiterate cunt

>>170097730
Do you win a jackpot for that?

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>>170097631
The one thing Satan has going for it that Aegis doesn't, is that Satan gets ward from Sunlight when he's dropped, so he can, at the very least, protect you the turn he's dropped.

Aegis just drops and then you lose to Seraph, D-Shift, Senior Alberto, WolfBolt, etc. It's really not that great unless you have a huge lead, in which case Seraph is better and Satan would suffice anyway.

>>170097705
>implying I'd defend that piece of shit
It's the epitome of retardation, worse than Daria. But whatever stay in denial if that helps you sleep.

>>170097840
Saha neutralcraft, or JO dragon that uses the jade amulet to buff the Prince card that reduces hp to 1.

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>>170097617
this is what i use

>>170097385
i understand that dshift isn't all that strong.
but it's just that when they do win, they do it in the most stupid way possible.
the deck just shouldn't exist.

>hurr durr let me touch myself for every single turn till i play dshit
>hurr durr now let me touch myself some more in the added turns i get till lethal
>interaction? what's that?
it's a stupid effect by design and i can't believe they approved this card

How do we nerf heaven teams?

>>170097843
Ivories even after the nerf?

>>170097703
What if dragon ramp cards allowed pp to go over 10?

>>170097993
You can counterplay by not playing any followers

>>170097352
Okay, thanks.

What's the power ranking for take 2? I am not sure which classes to pick.

>>170097385
The problem with d-shift has never been the "power level" and has always been the non-interactivity of the deck. Seraph (and arguably nephthys) has this problem as well.

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>there are people here who unironically think Aegis is overpowered

>>170097881
>Is this Take Two guide from the OP pastebin still a viable method of farming Take Two?
Probably.
>Should I do this if I want to make my rupees go further?
If you like frustration, sure.

>>170097703
They could change the ramp mechanics to work like in TESL: if you use a ramp card after you already have 10 PP, you gains that extra point. You would be able to have 11, 12 or even more PP.