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>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0 [Embed]
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU [Embed]
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILER): https://my.mixtape.moe/ldkpad.webm

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/r37fGjhZ
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>>170068216
>Want to use DS3 wikidot
>Its kinda shit, lacks information
Damn shame too, my favorite wiki for DeS, DS1&2.
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>>170068040
but since dark souls is supposed to be so hard I actually thought it was the first level
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>>170068368
The DS3 wikidot is probably shit because the community that made the early wikis good just isn't there anymore.

>>170068379
You absolutely can go to the catacombs and beat it as your first level or first level(s). I usually do the Burg first, but I recently did a cleric character and went to the Catacombs after Burg to get Rite of Kindling since IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO, catacombs is super easy.
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Recommendations for the direction to take on a caveman build?

Wearing only a loincloth and using the Great Club, been putting everything into STR and VIT.
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Why do people draw the Emerald Herald with such huge knockers?
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>>170068557
>VIT
if you're going to wear rags then there's no point to level a stat that allows you to wear heavy armor
unless you meant Vigor which is HP, then it's fine
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>>170068528
you probably had the divine sword you got from the undead dragon with the master key. You expect new players to know this? It can take several hours to clear the graveyard and then several days to clear the catacombs
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>>170068557
Get to 66 Str, infuse your weapons with Heavy and twohand those bad boys. Pick up Power Within and RTSR if you're a real man.
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Is she /OURGIRL/?
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>>170068909
>she
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>>170068909
Why is there blood on her hands? Did she murder Gypogean Gael?
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i just reinstalled ds3 after dropping it 13 hours in. i loved the first half of ds1 and ds2 was just ok but enjoyable. does 3 get better or is the first few hours indicative of the rest of the experience?
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>>170068909
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>>170068909
>shut in
>autistic
>poorly dressed
>obsessive hobbyist
>coddled by aging caregiver
>lives in an attic
>has no friends

If you take painting as a substitute for videogames, then she's pretty much a 4chan user.
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>>170069000
It's paint, I think. That or she has some weird skin disease.
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>>170069000
Have you never seen old timey painting supplies? They're on the table right next to her.

>>170069024
What a useless question. How far did you get in those 13 hours? What are you having problems with?
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>>170069151
the last thing i remember doing was beating the deacons of the deep and then going across some bridge to a courtyard area where the were fast enemies with swords. its been a long time since i played any. as for what was wrong the game was just so underwhelming. everything was in a fucking castle and the atmosphere felt the same the entire time. also a lot of parts felt cheap; not actually difficult or skillful, just cheap.
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>>170068657
Nah, I didn't.
You can go for the Necromancers or kick the respawning skeletons into the shafts.

>it can take several hours to clear the graveyard
If you're incredibly bad and incredibly stupid, yeah. I didn't bother with the graveyard, I just ran across it.

>>170069024
>does 3 get better
What did you dislike in the game?
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>>170068614
Yeah, that's what I meant.
>>170068671
I plan on keeping it at L70 for Pontiff PVP, so I don't think I can grab power within. It's in GA, right?
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>>170069337
another thing is i was using the katana or uchigata whatever its called and going with a dex build
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>>170063593
Hey, you still here? Sorry about the delay, I went out to eat. I made it to farron swamp and found the +1 wolf ring. Since you'll be twinking, if you do happen to do farron invasions, would you mind giving me the wolf ring when you reach rank 2? Otherwise I'd have to farm about 24 wolf's blood swordgrass.
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>>170069364
You should fill in all of your armor slots with something otherwise you take a huge damage penalty. Ragged mask, master's attire/gloves and loincloth should still look good.
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If I want to make an INT build, is it worth it to go for heysels pick or should i just do court sorcerer staff/crystal longsword?
Already have an MLGS build, not going to make another one
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>>170069337
The first few levels are actually pretty samey, that's true. The game doesn't start to really diverge in terms of atmosphere and design for a little while, so it's a fair complaint. Right after the Deacons (or before, if you switch around) is the obligatory shitty swamp area, and then all the good parts of the game are immediately after. I remember being blown away by Irithyll just for the change in atmosphere myself.

If you're like most people, most of that feeling of taking tons of cheap hits is the removal of poise. Like Bloodborne, it bothers you less once you adapt to mashing dodge the instant you get hit and never trying to force openings against multiple enemies, but it does leave a bit of a cheesy taste in a lot of people's mouths when some faggot dog nips your heels and locks you into a staggerfest, so you feel like you have to play reactively against common mobs for the next hour. If you REALLY hate it, try playing with a poise enabled weapon, since they patched that.

I'd bet actual money I'm right. If you don't believe me, download the CE table and switch that shit back on.

tl;dr: the levels do get much better and more varied, the gamestyle is a thing you get used to, or patch out if you aren't on console
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>>170068591
Because tits>ass
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Post Sister Friede feet!
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>>170069620
alright ill just force myself through it some more if im that close to the game opening up. sounds like i already went through most of the awful shit (the swamp, i cant imagine worse level design than that). thanks anon
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>>170069560
you get a damage penalty for having a spot empty?
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>>170069707
In DS1 terms, you've basically rung one Bell of Awakening.

Except the game doesn't drop massively in quality after the midpoint. The difficulty just spikes and stays there. Prepare your anus for snow town.

Katanas are also actually really, really bad in 3. Try a different weapon.
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>>170069719
A little, its quite exaggerated by everyone though.
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>>170069802
whats a good replacement weapon thats still fast
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>>170069719
He means defense. For some fucked up reason, your flat defense is lowered for having no armour in slots; more for multiple empty slots. Being naked is practically a death sentence, as you'll take tremendously more damage than just the lower absorption would imply. It's even visible on your status screen.
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>>170069836
Any straight sword(Longsword in particular)
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>>170069836
The reason katanas are bad is that they're actually pretty slow. If you're wanting to stick to dex, and still in the early game, try out the estoc, corvian greatknife, lothric knight straight sword, great scythe, or lothnic knight spear, for either much better speed, or reach, or both.
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>>170069926
>>170069965
alright cool will try
i want to like this game i really do. i mean i paid full price and pre-ordered it when it first came out. btw is there an fps cap in 3 or was it just at 30 because my old pc was shit?
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>>170069965
You can substitute a great corvian scythe for the great scythe if you can get one to drop, if you're okay with a shorter reach as well. Bleed gets cheesy later on. Overall though, be warned that scythes are actually very good in this game, but have a rather strict sweet spot mechanic. If you aren't consistently landing the sweet spot, your damage will suck ass.
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>>170070024
Standard for PC is 60.
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Why is Gundyrs Halberd so much fucking fun?

>that heat seeking WA
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>>170070076
can it go up to 144 tho>?
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>>170070024
Your old PC was bad. It should run well over 30 on even mediocre hardware.

Last bit of advice: level your VIG to a bare minimum of 27 by the end of Mr. Bones' Wild Ride. People often hugely underestimate the gains and then flip their shit when the next area(s, there's a hidden passage) demolishes their HP bar instantly.
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>>170070118
it's capped at 60
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>>170070203
oh well thats good enough i guess
>>170070139
ye i was pumping all my points into dex and hp. how much do i need to diversify stats? those were pretty much the only two stats i put points into .
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>>170069965
All of those suck except the lothric straight sword
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>>170070251
If you're not going for quality, then you should mostly only worry about DEX, VIG and END. VIT is basically useless to you. Since you can't upgrade armour anymore, its value is almost entirely for poise, and if you're using a dex weapon, you aren't going to be trading (poise only works mid-attack now), so heavy armour isn't great for you. If you find you have points left over, you can always throw a few into grabbing a spell or two. LCK you don't touch unless you're doing a very specific build. INT and FTH are the usual except they soft cap for casting at 60.
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>tricked by a guy running away with a katana
What's the dumbest thing you've fell for, /dsg/?
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>>170070319
I was going to say something about how he's still early in the game, but:

>corvian greatknife
>anything less than fantastic in both PvE and PvP

Confirmed shitposter.
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is Sully a twink?
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>>170070472
>PvE
no
>and PvP
yes
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>>170070391
what is the best scythe i can get that early in the game?
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>>170070465
Sacred Flame glitch, he was 2-3 hits away from death and i thought i could nab him quickly through his cast.
>Oneshot
i still feel stupid about that
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>>170070528
Anything with fast attacks and a quick dodge cancels blenders the shit out of PvE. You can already stagger lock almost every enemy to death with a straight sword, using the knife just basically gives you the same thing with a little less reach and damage, but better stamina use and disgustingly powerful crits for little weight. You can also slap rouge on it to have a slightly less powerful bandit's knife with better reach. It's perfectly viable as a SS/Dagger blend.
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PC player here, been doing SL35-70 invasions for the longest time, considering moving up to post-pontiff meta level invasions finally for more difficulty, hackers be damned.

My question is, what SL should I be at? 120? 125? 140? 150? Preferably I'd like to avoid fight clubs and get a constant stream of aldrich faithful invasions if possible, but I'd weigh constant invasions heavier than avoiding FC's. I'm not entirely against obscuring ring greatbow'ing FC's to fuck with them.
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>>170070738
Great Scythe is in Undead Settlement as item to pick up.
Great Corvian Scythe is in Road of Sacrifices as random drop from mobs.
There's also Pontiff Knight Great Scythe in Irithyll.
Power ranking:
Corvian > Pontiff > Great Scythe
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>>170070738
The great scythe you should find in the Undead Settlement has the best reach and respectable damage. The great corvian scythe you can farm off the mutant crow fucks has better damage, but a shorter reach and a strength requirement (and relatively negligible self-bleed). They're both perfectly capable of taking you to the late game, especially when you can buy carthus rouge.
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>>170070775

also it's a raw weapon, allowing you to gouge the shit out of your choice of VIG/END/VIT.
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>>170070904
>>170070937
alright thanks lads. im off to go play wish me luck :3
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>>170071005
>:3
fuck off
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>>170070841
125 is the meta and where you will get the most activity. 140 I believe is the point at which you start ignoring 125s while invading which will likely gimp your invasion activity but avoid most fight clubs.

That said, Aldrich Faithful has nearly always been constant activity for me regardless
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>>170071037
;_; sorry
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>>170071069

So what would you suggest then? SL120 or SL140? Again, PC.
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>>170070841
120/125 is the sweet spot, as always. Post-pontiff is still as active as ever in that bracket.
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What are some of the useful Sorceries in DaS3?
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>>170071179

Yeah but I want to do invasions not honor duels. Mostly trying to think about how much FC invasion frequency effects my choice of SL120-125 or SL140.

Guess I'll just do SL125 then, though.
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>>170071214
Great Heavy Soul Arrow for PvE
Homing Soulmass, Farron Flashsword, Soul Greatsword are good for both PvE and PvP
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>>170071265
Thanks mate, planning on using MLGS, would it be better to use Bellowing ring or magic clutch?
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>>170071383
Bellowing. Clutch rings don't work in PVP, so they're pretty useless.
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>>170071491
They do if you use the nexus patch
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>>170071383
bellowing gives a bigger boost for sorceries, even in pve - remember clutch shit doesn't work in pvp - and doesn't have drawbacks.
Also, if you do invasions or sth, long range nukes like crystal soul spear are decent. Homing soul mass is good for getting space for ashen estus as well
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>>170071257
Fight clubs are a much, much, much smaller issue than you're making them out to be. At 125 you'll get one in maybe twenty five attempts and it takes all of sixty seconds to black crystal out and find a new world.
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>>170071491
Thanks again, last question. Do Sorcerer's make the best Sorcerer's or are Knight's better. For some reason I'm thinking long ago that a lot of people said Knights
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Does being embered prioritize you for auto summons?
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>>170071563
Depends on your stat spread, but generally you want to go Sorcerer.
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>>170071265
>>170071531
Is normal Soulmass better than Crystal?
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>>170071383
Dont forget about the GS of Judgement
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>>170071583
no
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>>170071712
Kind of. Homing does less damage, but costs a lot less FP.
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>>170071537

That's good to hear then, thanks. Haven't done meta level shit in forever (only did pontiff duels at that level), so was a bit worried. Thanks.
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>>170071712
FP to damage wise yes
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>>170071728
I didn't, honestly, I'm going to try both. I've never really played a Sorcerer in any of the Souls before, I've always been iffy on what weapons I should use. I was just going to use a infused Longsword or something.
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Sometimes when I attempt to invade, I am summoned as a blue/Aldritch depending on what covenant l have on.
Why?

Also, why blessed weapons cannot be buffed?
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This is what I have so far, again, this is a very rough idea, I've never messed around with casters, so I'm open to any advice. I did have one question for long time Souls spellcasters, do you like the FP system or did you prefer what they did in previous games?
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>>170071827
Moonlight greatsword, greatsword of judgement, and Heysel pick is great because it can combo with r1 directly into a soul greatsword r2. Steady chant also buffs both its casting and standard attack damage since it does magic damage, and to top it all off all of its moves are thrusts and it has poise when 2 handed as it is indeed a hammer.
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>>170068182
So boys what's the Sl for swampo invasions?
Whats the best early sl invasion spot?
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>>170068909
>>170069027
shes literally us in video game form
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>>170071958
try sticking Att at 24 or 30 for MLGS/GSoJ users
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>>170071958
You should drop Hidden Body and Cast Light, they're pretty useless. Great Farron Dart is good for pressuring in PVP as well. Also 60 Int is overrated, but good. You should consider dropping to 50 and getting more Vigor or something.
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>>170068182
You retard, you didn't link the previous thread:
>>170011516

Also, someone re-upload the Demon Prince boss fight.
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>>170072102
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>>170071257
>>170071179
>>170070841

Well if you don't want to do duels then why the everloving fuck you're both committing to a meta level that's mostly used for FCs AND also invading the most fc heavy area of the game.
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>>170072126
Why would lowering my Att affect those swords?
>>170072137
Those are just filler spells, stuff I might dick around with, I'll throw in GFD, thanks.
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>>170072137
>>170071958
Hidden body and untrue white ring make you look like player ghosts. It's a lot of fun and people really do fall for it.
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Why did From make it so poise only exists as hyper armor?
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>>170072304
Because imagine poise stacked fast bleed weapons.
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>>170072206
who is this waifu?
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>>170072304
Because they gave into whiny casuals. This is why DaS1 will always be the best PvP game.
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>>170072259
At 34 you're 4 above the previous 'slot' level, you're better off sticking those 4 points into Vig.
24 is more my personal preference for MLGS builds, heed it no mind if you're more comfortable with 30
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>>170072382
A shit, like all waifus.
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>>170072445
I NEED A NAME ANON!
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>>170072304
DaS1 poise is cancer
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>>170072493
Shit.
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>>170072435
>DaS
Oh you mean backstab circling; the game?
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>>170072527
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170072441
I like 30 for the extra slot and FP, moved some numbers around, I think I like to use Heysel, but keeping stats up to use GSoJ and MLGS
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Are all bleed builds cancer?
I kinda wanna try one desu senpaitachi
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>>170072729
they're "pub-stompers" if you can use that term in regards to souls, bad players (which is most of them) will get destroyed by bleed build
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>>170072539
>shitter detected

If you tried to BS fish in that manner against a seasoned PvPer, you will get rekt. Counter BSes alone would completely shit you down.

That said, DaS1 would be perfect if they reversed the DWGR nerf and added in BB style BSes and DaS3 Guard crush ripostes.
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>>170072830
>if they reversed the DWGR nerf
It's always funny when the biggest shitter calls other people shitters. Change your name to God-Kettle and kys.
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>>170073016
bring back sega bass fishing
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>>170073093
wot
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>>170072880
Almost every player i encountered was going for the backstab fishing; combined with Froms amazing netcode made bullshit bs's all too common
>Counter BS
If the counter to BS fishing is BS fishing of another kind i think there's something wrong with the pvp balance

And if it wasnt BS fishing, people were runnins some shitty dark magic or DMB cheese build

Low level burg PvP best PvP
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>>170073249
Lol meant that as a response to Luci's shit posting. Sorry mate.
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Is it safe to change my gender with cheatengine in ds3?
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>>170073381
is it safe to ________ cheat engine?
ur probably going to get banned (for 1 or 2 days) but go for it
:^)
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>>170073346
Nope. It just meant if they tried to circle BS, they got BSed themselves instead. Unless they are retarded, they will learn their lesson and stop trying it and you can fight legit.

>>170073358
Idiot.
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>>170072880
>reversed the DWGR nerf
I too enjoy flipping loincloth havelmom meta
Current dwgr is fine, it gives more merit to either invest more points into End if you want to flip with heavy gear. Or it encourages players to wear lighter armour, giving better dodges in exchange for lesser defenses
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>>170072619
Glad I could sell you on the Heysel pick. A hammer, a greatsword, and a straight sword all in one. When using flash sword bear in mind it can be parried.
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>>170073482
Oh well, everyone makes mistakes, you can fix all of yours by killing yourself.
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So with warden twins do you go quality, hollow or sharp?
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>>170073546
People still flipped with high poise. Nothing really changed. All you needed was 56 poise.
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>>170072539
The first Dark Souls' PvP was almost entirely backstab and parry focused, but if you think it's pure circling, you know pretty much jack shit about it. After a little while, it got into near-SSBM levels of exploit-based meta expansion and became stupidly complicated.
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>2kat
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>>170073792
>muh backstab simulator
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>>170073839
>says the pyro nigger
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>>170073989
Pyromancy is bad, too much stats, too little damage. Not enogh good pyromancies.
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>>170073753
All of them work. Depends what else you want to use. I like them hollow so I can switch to Anri's with blessed weapon.
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>>170073753
Hollow gets some amazing scaling. I'm using a Hollow Warden Twinblades with my current build and it can deal pretty good damage not counting the bleed.
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>>170074062
>too little damage
>you can chain 2 black flames and delete 70% of enemy hp
ok
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>>170074062
>>170074201
>Serpent combo into Vestiges
>Delete entire health bar
Pyro is the best caster in DS3
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Want to build this for invasions in grand archives, any tips? Is chain still worth it at this SL, should I go lower or higher in SL?

clothes I'll figure out later for something that gives good defenses without looking shit
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>>170074201
That requires my opponent to be a panic rolling retard or a stationary target.
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>>170072608
Vivian James.

Fap away my friend.
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>>170074292
And probably the best caster in series overall, for pvp and pve both.
>using rapport in entirety of Lothric Castle
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>>170074201
>DLC will add pyro curved sword and pyro flashsword
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>>170074298
>27 vig meme
>chain
death wish right here
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>>170074373
lol shes so cute!
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can someone on pc come kill gravetender with me? my greatshield is too bad to block and my weapon does no damage. i refuse to learn the moveset. chilling at the bonfire, password is "idiot"
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I just started Dark Souls 2 can anyone help me out fàms? Should I upgrade my broadsword or that lighting sword that I got from the white knight? This game starting to turn me off since my weapon breaks quickly
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>>170074535
>i refuse to learn the moveset
fuck off
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>>170074493
its also SL70 nignog, gotta cut corners somewhere. I want a ton of END so Im able to outrun everyone I invade

I could cut out on damage I guess
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>>170074493
27 works fine at level 75. He's an invader, not a duelist.
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>>170074549
Estoc and craftsman hammer are the only weapons you need in that game.
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>>170074549
Depends, do you want to use Faith? if yes. go with the Heide sword.

>>170074690
>Pointing first timers to the EZ mode weapons
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>>170074298
I will never understand why people don't just use Anri's
You can get full scaling at level 50 easily.
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>>170074898
I like the tryhard winblades
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>>170074690
Doesn't estoc breaks much quicker than the broadsword?
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Is it even possible to make a decent build based around crossbows or another non-magic ranged weapon?
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>>170074535
thanks homies
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>>170075074
you can make a composite bow build
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>>170075019
Sure, they're neat and all - unparriable spins and all that range - but AR and guardbreak/hyperarmour weapon arts are just so good in invasions.
Sth like this possibly: https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/150146
Could use chain if you don't care for absorption or add miracles as well
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>>170072250

Because it's also where the meanest ganks are, but you also get backup.
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>kill a guy called PlzPointDown :)
>I point up
hohohohoho
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>>170075320
mom's gonna flip
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>didn't play ds3 dlc's yet so start a new game to prepare for ringed city
>want to start a pure mage
>realize there aren't ANY mage sets in the game
>make yet another ultra greatsword str build

The only set that I somewhat may tolerate is the karla set but other than that there's absolutely nothing, what a disgrace.

>tfw no astrologist's set in ds3
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>>170074549
Get to the eleum loyce dlc and try to find the bone fist. Powerstanced with caestus is the most fun moveset I've ever seen. Everythijg has knockdown, and you get a hadouken projectile with the strong l2.
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>>170075320
D E V I L I S H
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>>170074690
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Who else /replayingDS1/ here?
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>>170075945
pure mage is absolutely no fun to play either, all spells are shit and fp was a mistake
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>>170073989
Oh I'm sorry, is it not cool to be a Pyromancer now?
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>>170076461
Oh don't you know? Everyone who uses a build I don't like is a shitter
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>>170076429
FP was such an awful decision. Who the fuck was championing that at From, after 3 games of a set amount, "How can we make magic completely unfun?"
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Every playthrough of DS3 Ive done so far I immediately just grab the claymore. Coming from bloodborne last where it was more fun to get in to close because trades werent near as bad with the health recovery getting back in close, Im finding reach is king in DS3, and cant justify using a dagger or any regular sword. Greatswords just seem to be perfectly balanced in speed, damage, and reach, with a varied moveset. Plus going fast and getting hits on an enemy with a shield with a light weapon is fucking boring, you either go to hit and they block and your character loses agency with your weapon flailing off their shield, or you get two hits in before they block and the same shit happens. Meanwhile a greatsword does chip damage through the shield, and can destroy their stamina and allow for a critical attack.
Pure thrust weapons are so overpowered in PvE but the moveset is so bland and uninteresting. Stab stab stab. Stab stab stab.
What weapon should I use to break the cycle /dsg/? I tried making a mage that used the great scythe but as soon as I put a crystal gem on it my damage fucked itself because lol split damage. Not the mention the damage penalty for being too close and the odd hitboxes missing some attacks on certain enemies.
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>>170076346
Yup, on and off while taking breaks from playing 3&BB
Currently making a 50 Faith cleric character. Surprisingly fun
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>>170076658
I'm just revising my Pyro-chick. In addition to just feeling better to play than DS3 I'm really interested in outleveling all the bosses with that soul glitch.
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>>170076635
>but the moveset is so bland and uninteresting
Try the Lucerne. Most fun I've had with a pure thrust weapon.
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>>170076593
It wouldnt be so bad if they just reduced the cost to where you could have the same number of casts you once could in previous games or made the spells damaging enough to be worth the absurd costs most have but as it stands everything is too expensive to use and doesnt have nearly enough payoff and is outclassed in every way by literally anything else
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>>170076346
I was bored sometime around last summer so I decided to get all the achivements
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>>170076461
The only build not for losers are faith ones because they suck
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>>170076792
Eh, i'm kinda on the fence about the feeling. It feels better in some areas but then there's stuff like the 4-directional directional dodges that irk me again. I think 3 is still my favorite souls game.

>Soul Glitch
Wich one?
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>>170069579

The Crystal Longsword is better if you're going the pure caster route because you don't need to invest in STR/DEX very much at all in order to get decent damage out of it. In my opinion, the Heysel Pick is a way more fun to use than the Longsword, though. The Longsword is boring as shit while you can easily do cool flashsword/greatsword combos with the Pick while also benefitting from hammer-class hyper armor. You can also free up your left-hand slot for the candlestick or a shield or something instead of having to put your catalyst there.
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>>170076839
With one blue estus you already have as many if not more casts of any spell
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I'm so glad from removed poise to cater to pvp shitters, it totally doesn't make heavy weapons completely useless beyond aldritch
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>>170075059
Your main weapon is hammer.

>>170076112
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>>170077061
But even on PvE poise stacked fast weapons in 1 are infinitely better than heavye weapons. The only reason to ever touch those weak weapon is if you like their looks
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>>170077061
Learn how to use and time Hyper Armour
It just means that Heavy weapons now require more skill to use
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>>170076913
This one, I've been abusing Manus' Soul like crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURyRSowqig
TL;DR
Have a boss soul in your hotbar, press attack, then X/Square before the animation ends, then start, then X and X again.
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redpill me on greatshields
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>>170077372
>It just means that Heavy weapons now require more skill to use
Look I don't care about skill or E-dick measuring contests. Poise was extremely useful in PVE and now it's gone.
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>>170076635
>Pure thrust weapons are so overpowered in PvE but the moveset is so bland and uninteresting. Stab stab stab. Stab stab stab.

Fuck you, I used the LK Long Spear on my first (blind) playthrough with DaS3 being my first ever souls game and I loved it to death, even to this day I love it.

Besides, the only weapons that truly have a unique moveset are the black knight ones. Everything else is just R1 and R2, mostly R1's though, not really a big deal. Like big whoop you have 2 moves instead of 1, no one gives a shit that's not "varied" like say a black knight glaive that has a whole slew of unique attacks between the 1 and 2 handed versions.
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>>170077484
The more skill part also applies to PvE, it means you cant just braindead mash 2-handed UGS' anymore
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>>170077484
It was more useful for fast weapons. There's nothing a heavy weapon could kill they couldn't faster and safer
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>>170076593
>Fp was a horrible decision
Shit taste honestly
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>>170077080
fuck off football face
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>>170077372
>heavy weapons require more skill to use
why does from hate heavy weapons
fast weapons have higher damage, faster swing speeds, less stat requirements, do better poise damage and weigh less
and you can just mash your controller all day to success, fuck from soft and their idea of balance
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>>170077856
I'm pretty sure no one except the worst shitters are enjoying it.
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>pontiff Sulyvahn
>archdeacon McDonnell

hmm
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>>170077578
Except you still can
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anyone could upload the CE tables from the googledrive somewhere?
seems like CE got hit by a lawsuit from bethesda
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>~23.5 days till TRC
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>>170078046
I'm glad Miyazaki is adressing the Irish Question
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>>170078107
Yeah, but you got to time the first swing for HA, EG you cant just stand there and take hits all day and press R1 in the middle of their combo without being punished for it
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>>170077993
But whats exactly bad about it? It makes for more freedom of spell use. No longer are you tied to the amount of casts. Being a pure caster is much more enjoyable in ds3 thanks to fp.
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>>170078190
>23.5 days to prepare my three characters

nice
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>>170077507
Anon, I like spears, but I dont want to feel like I cheesed my way through the entire game staying totally out of the way of any enemies range. And as much fun as spears would be, itd get very stale pretty fast for me personally. Not disrespecting your playstyle at all.

As for varied movesets, the claymores 1hr1 is wide sweeps, the r2s are thrusts followed by swings, the running and backstep attacks are spin slashes, you have the stances, and 2hr1s are vertical side swings. The animations are varied and things have varied utility in the moveset, and thats what I personally look for in a weapon.

I just wish some weapon in DaS3 had the charged r2 combo from the memelight in BB, that thrust then uppercut was so satisfying baiting people into in pvp.
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>>170077993
Vancian Magic a shit
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Someone pls post a passable faith build. Mostly for PvE and coop

Pls
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>>170078467

What level do you want to stop at?

Do you want to focus on FAI-weapons or miracles?
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>>170078528
Around 80-90 I guess?

>Do you want to focus on FAI-weapons or miracles?

Weapons, miracles mostly for heal shit
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This series is fucking awful. I regret buying all the games.
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>>170078585
>comes to /dsg/ to tell us you don't like any of the games
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>>170078467
60 faith
use raw weapon + whatever buff the enemies/boss in the area are weak to you have dark, magic, and lightning from miracles, and fire with pyro flame and 10 int
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>>170078467
What SL you looking for?
Anyway the Basics
EQUIPMENT
Canvas Talisman, Yorshka's Chime
Melee focus; Wolnirs Sword, Raw DSA+buff, Lothric Knight GS+buff
Caster focus; Something small and fast(Small axe, straight sword) Lightning infused or Raw+Buff

Stats
60 Faith is a must for offensive spells, paladin-style support can stop between 20-40 depending on what spell you want
i'd say 18 Att for melee, 24 or 30 for caster

If you want a really low-faith build; go 25 faith for great heal&Sacred oath requirements. Then focus the rest in physical stats like Vig/End/Str
Anything else?
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>>170078581

Ok. What FAI-based weapons appeal to you?

Or do you just want to be able to use a majority of FAI weapons in general?

You are referring to DS3, right?
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>>170077447
They're very good. Wolf Knight, Havels, and moaning are my favorites. I especially love two handing Havel's with Anri's sword on my hip and invading lothric castle with pure shield bashes. You are nigh untouchable if you manage it correctly, attacks also block so trading is easy, and the running attack is very good for some reason. If you really want to eat someone's time, I actually fought one person for fifteen minutes until he eventually just ran out of estus and could no longer fight. Lots of fun, and making good use of sub weapons helps too.
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how good is 60 faith yorshka's chime DMB and is it worth respeccing from a 150 quality build for
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Was the fact that there are only 5 real builds in BB a good or bad thing?
>str quality (any dex weapons with heavy abyssals becomes a str weapon)
>blood tinge chigake/bowblade
>bloodtinge str
>pure mage
>moonlight build

This covered literally every weapon.
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>>170078824
if you use a very fast weapon yes
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>>170078704
>>170078752
>>170078771
Thanks my dudes.

Yee I was going for a Paladin type support character
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>have been play Dark Souls II SOTFS for 4 hours straight

huh, and here I thought I was going to hate it.
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>unplug internet
>start new character
>add 30 proofs of concord kept with CE

rate my plan
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>>170079175
I'll let you on a little secret
crystal magic weapon at 60 int adds more damage than dmb at 60 fth
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>>170079175
>spawning in covenant items instead of the rewards straight up

shit plan
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haven't played this game since a month after it came out. what build should i am for if i want to have a lvl 70ish mage/sorceror build?
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>>170079438
magic is weak at that level
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>>170078879
The stats required made less of a difference in playstyle. In BB, playstyle was dramatically changed by what weapons you choose to use. Since the only real point in builds is the difference in how you play, reassigning that role to the weapons themselves is just fone for me. You still get variety in the form of whatever weapons you decide you want to use.
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>>170079351
How did you figure that?
From what i can see the highest spellbuff for Int is 238, for faith thats 242
They both add ~95% of spellbuff as magic AR so it seems like they're on about the same level
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>>170079538
alright i guess i go for 120 then
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>>170079438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka1ap_t_PZ8
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>>170079576
I messed up actually, DMB adds whole 8AR more so enjoy locking yourself behind shittiest magic type in the game
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>>170068543
Seems a bit pretentious to say it strayed too much from the souls formula when we're only 2 games in. At any rate, judging by concept art and unused maps, shibuya's ideas were great. Far better than the turd of a game we got. Bloodborne basically pulled the rug from under ds2 and it never got proper treatment, leaving it crippled forever. That game should never have been dark souls. Name it giants' souls, I don't know. Whenever I remember what a great game ds2 could have been I get a bit upset.
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So wtf is the big deal regarding darkmmon blade?

It seems to be shit and noone has any builds that show it actually being good.

Is it just a meme because of how long it takes to get it?
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>>170079971
Fuck off Shibuya
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>>170080116
It's pretty
Slightly better than other buffs
That's it
>>170080149
>not Shillbuya
If you'll meme, at least meme to the full extent
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>>170080116
You only hear about it because it is a PitA to farm, and people go for it for the trophies.
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what the fuck is up with that growling in the backgrond

Lost bastille, Forest of the lost giants, Heide's tower of flame etc. something keeps growling
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>>170080329
Are you wearing the ring of whispers?
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>>170080425
oh shit, I do

what does that mean?
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>>170079648
Anon is wrong. This is how you one shot midlevs.
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>>170080485
It means you get an audio queue when enemies are nearby
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>>170080485
Your save is corrupted, never close the game
you hear the enemies, moron, read the description
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oh shit, Memezaki ordered you to desing a bossfight

what kind of boss do you create?
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>>170080781
Ornstein
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>>170080781
Basically just False King Allant complete with the soul level sucking attack.
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>>170080781
Primordial Hydra.
Basically the hydras from DS1 but twice as large and with Frampt and Kaathe shit talking you the entire fight.
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>>170080781
Archangel X (I'm thinking Gabriel though)

No actual idea what he'd look like, but he'd be a part of the Angel storyline and fight like Kalameet.
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>>170080781
>boss room is a narrow plank-walled maze but too tall to see past your corridor
>getting to the end allows you to hit a weak spot (maybe cut some ropes) causing the maze to collapse making the arena flat
>the boss has the size and hitbox of a blighttown mosquito
>also moves and can phase through the planks like one
>can use a minor self heal
>uses various nature elements
>can cause all status effects
>can knock down with an emit force-like wind
>throw water spurts from above like a hydra
>spawn roots that block movement but can be broken by attacking
>very rarely, spawn ice hedgehogs or similar
>cackles softly throughout the fight, audibly louder when it hits you
>each time it causes a status effect, it screams "HEHEHEHE GOTCHA" in an extremely high pitched voice
>has boss-tier hp
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>>170080781
The Witch of Izalith in her prime, an aporoximately Vendrick-sized humanoid woman in long robes, that moves very slowly and attacks exclusively by summoning ungodly powerful complex pyromancies until the second phase where she screams, pulls out one of the long catalysts you see her daughters using in the DS1 intro, and summons a Bed of Chaos-looking flaming wraith to float alongside her like Sulyvahn's shade, that attacks with powerful melee moves and chases you around the arena as she continues to cast her primordial flame magic at you
And make it take place in the Bed of Chaos arena for added effect.
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Imagine if Dark Souls was a Crusader Kings game
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All 4 knights at the same time. I'd give them Player Character rigs in a maze like arena though. Kinda like Gank Squad
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>>170081893
You'd make Gough the size of the player?
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>>170081893
>all 4 knights at the same time in a maze
>Running around, dodging Goughs giant ass arrows
>Have to check every corner for Ciarana, only to get meme'd from behind the back
>Dodge her only to run into Artorias who is Meme flipping around like those Skeleton boulders you find in the catacombs
>dodge him when you run Into Ornstein gliding towards you, ready give you a face full of electric spear
>You dodge all of them, thinnking you have some breathing space, only to find Smough crashing through the wall out of fucking nowhere
>Fat fuck wants to kill you so maybe the Knights will accept him into the ranks
>did I mention you still have to dodge Gough?
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>>170081746
what would the gameplay be like?
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How important is armor in DS3?
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>>170082294
Nah, Artorias wouldn't be memeflipping around, he'd have his greatshield and thus would be more of a tank or a more defensive fighter. Zipping around at sanic speeds like a maniac only to stab ypu from all sides at once would be Ornstein's job.
And Ornstein would also have a Dragoon Jump.
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>>170082498
Very, you want to look 10/10 at all times and in any circumstance. Effectiveness means shit, though.
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>>170082498
It's more important to have something equipped on all slots than what that something actually is. Empty armor slots give you a pretty nasty defense penalty, or so I hear.
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>>170080781
>Orphan of Kos but shorter, a little faster, and reskinned as the furtive pygmy wielding a dark bladed flail (boss weapon actually has a unique moveset behaving like a flail unlike the last one).
>Magic attacks do dark damage and his tard screeches are higher pitched and deafening. Has one AOE that is a piercing nazgul scream doing no damage but your character will cower and cover their ears for a full 3 seconds if they get caught in it.
>The arena is large but the edges are lined with abyss fog that does large amount of damage if touched.
>Immune to all statuses. moderate fire and lightning defense, High magic and huge dark defense, somewhat weak to blessed.
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>>170082656
MUH FLAYEL

FRIEDE

MUH FLAYEYL
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>>170082763
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>>170082947
DO NOT bully Father Ariandel, he's a very sweet old man
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what is the actual stat spread for a low-level luck build? i want to turn some shit weapons good with that luck scaling
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>>170083028
he's a very sweet VIRGIN old man
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>>170081998
>>170082294
Well, I suppose a way to work it without ruining the lore would be to do the Destiny thing and give the player a one time power up to balance everything out.
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>>170083229
He's not a virgin
Not since he met Friede
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>>170083350
>item description pretty much reads "Please make some Rule 34 of Friede and the Corvian Knights"
>hasn't happened yet
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>>170083350
grabbing a titty and watching her shower doesn't deflower him
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>>170083661
>implying they haven't held hands
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>>170083720
friede is lewd but not THAT lewd
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FUCK BASILIKS I HATE THE DEPTHS
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>>170080781
>you must drop into an enclosed area to fight the boss
>stepping forward activates the fight, sans Taurus Demon, allowing buffs to be used fuck you Dark Lurker

PHASE 1
>boss rises from far end of chamber, climbing out of the pool
>is vaguely humanoid, but clearly completely unnatural, even for Dark Souls. Something like pic related
>various parts of the anatomy used for nonlinear attacks - not bullshit, but they don't telegraph normally
>the eyes of the boss slowly start glowing blue, first one, then another, and another...
>eyes take critical damage, but only 1/4 of damage done to the eyes counts as damage done to the boss
>as each eye glows blue, the water level in the chamber begins to rise, giving a sense of panic to the player
>destroying all the eyes will slow the rate of water increase to a trickle

PHASE 2
>if boss is killed before water is too deep, it's body will dissolve into water to fill the missing portion
>once water reaches chest level, the floor collapses and the second part of the fight begins in waist deep water
>if water filled normally, boss begins to swim around using "wings" and is generally harder/faster
>if boss was "killed" in Phase 1, the water bubbles and froths to make a darker, sleeker version that is capable of using Dark Magic

LORE
Creature that is evolving in the Deep. The shit Aldritch was scared of.
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Whats a good stat structure for a Dragonslayer Swordspear and/or Dragonslayer Spear build? I'd like to keep it around level 40 but I'll go higher if that isn't reasonable.
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>>170084005
Get cursebite ring from the same guy that sells purging stones.
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>>170084005
>running into depths without Curebite or Rare Ring equipped just in case
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>>170074062
>Pyromancy is bad, too much stats
THIS
>40/40 and 2 ring slots for damage
>50 dex for casting speed or 10 dex + another ring slot
>30 att for fp and a decent amount of spell slots or 18 att + ANOTHER ring slot
At level 80 this leaves you with only 13 free points for vig/end and no ring slots.

I eventually caved and went one level higher because I had juuuust too little fp to cast vesties 4 times.

And before you bitch at me for being level 80 instead of 120, I do more damage at this level before people have less hp. Going to 120 I'll just have gimped stamina, hp, AND damage instead of just the first two being gimped.
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>>170084182
As disappointing as it is quality 40/40
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>>170084574
God dammit. Making obvious faith weapons quality is just retarded. Im not bothering fighting my way to NK just to make another damn 40/40.
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>>170080781
justin Trudeau as a dark souls boss.
>walk into the boss chamber
>cut scene to intro boss
>unavoidable hit as soon as the cut scene ends
>you're thrown across the room and smack against a wall
>you fall down the wall into a heap with 1 health left
>you hear "if you kill your enemies, they win"
>camera shifts to the boss
>justin Trudeau commits suicide by impaling himself on his own sword
>final words are "I'm winning now dad"
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what do speedrunners mean by RTSR strats?
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>>170085109
>RTSR
You mean RSTR? Red Tear Stone Ring? That ring that makes a lot of speedruns possible?
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>>170084025
Here's something similar to Stage 2. In the lower level after the floor collapses, there can be some drop holes in the water.

>Drops
-Destroying all the eyes: Catalyst that scales with Faith/Humanity; casts a water spell that deals Dark damage as the FP

-Destroying all the Tails: Whip? that causes a slow attack

-Normal: Helm of the Depths: Some sort of buff in water, like minor HP regen or something.

>Easter Eggs
In the drop holes in phase 2, you can see a giant penguin skeleton and eggs that presumably belong to the boss, as the AI will tend to stay near that particular death drop
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>>170085109
Red Tearstone Ring.

Always be below 20% HP, never get hit and always have the damage bonus from it.
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>>170084265
>>170084476
I'm in too deep now ;-;
Is the crystal sword sold by the merchant worth it ?
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>>170085109
getting to at least 20% health and using red tearstone ring bonus damage (50%) to kill the boss faster, it's only viable in ds1 tho
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What's the highest soul level you can get to and still get lots of online action?
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>>170085290
Whatever SL is optimal for each area, which changes depending on its location.
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>>170085197
>>170085227
>>170085283
ah, I see

thx
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oh shit what do I do?
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I hate trusty patches
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Is there a mod for DS1 to hide those adobe effect auras? The one in pastebin breakes some shit
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>>170085241
If your current weapon is dogshit and you really don't want to go back up to upgrade it's good for the next boss. But you want to go back up before carrying on anyway.
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>>170085241
It's ok anon, what level are you? Been planing to fire up DS1 all morning.

Been meaning to head down to Blighttown, want a hand? Also, just about every weapon is worth it except whips and gloves, just a matter of moveset preference. (PvE anyway)
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ok i tried 3 after a long hiatus and its still awful for me. i dont know whats wrong. maybe im just tired of the souls formula but i just cant play this shit anymore.
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>>170084476
>implying you'd know about cursebite first run
>implying you can get cursed by the basilisks after the first run
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>>170085502
from the rings I mean
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Why do I have to rank up in the covenants to get every miracle
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>>170085197
1. read your post again
2. marvel at your idiocy
3. if step 2 is unsuccessful, return to step 1
4. laugh like a retard
5. ????
6. profit
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>>170085534
I have a rapier +5, but it's kinda meh atm
Mostly because I upgraded str to 16 just to see the moveset of some weapons, I only have 17 dex now

>>170085547
I'm SL 26, I tried going to Blighttown but it feels underleveled.
Thanks for asking, but I'll go on alone, it's my first playthrough well the second to be exact, but I spent less than 10 hours on the real first and don't remember anything
I remember that there is a bonfire in the Depths somewhere but I can't find it, back to searching I go.
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>>170085884
which game?
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>>170085645
reviewers say it's great.
You're apparently spoilt
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>>170076593
Bringing back mana was a good idea in my opinion, as it allowed for regen to return as well.
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Why is it called Blight"town"?
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>>170085973
>reviewers
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>>170085945
No problem. I'm SL 22 right now and was just heading down there for a few things. If you change your mind, I'll leave my summon sign in the hallway with the glooby globs that fall on your head.
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>>170085645
This is how I feel about 1. Still think it's horribly overrated.
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>>170078190
>over 40 days until I can buy the GOTY for the PSquadrupple
>missing day 1 hype on /dsg/ all over again
>can't even watch my favorite ecelebs streaming their first time
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>>170086074
Blight is a disease. It's filled with toxic, bugs and mutants because those are synonymous with poison
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>>170086074
because it's a town. a really shitty one, but it's the residence of those infested ghoul people. they even have pet doggies
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>>170086076
Ds3 is exhausting to replay because there aren't many decisions to be made apart from catacombs or cathedral first. Having nothing beyond the cathedral and gating off Irithyll were awful decisions.
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>>170086074
Because it used to be a shanty town before the backlash from Witch Izileth blast back through the tunnels and ruined it with Blight. The Fair Lady then took most of the curse into herself trying to save the people, but ended up just killing herself.. ;_;
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FOH FACK SAKES FRIEDE, BRIGN TAH FOCKING FLAYL
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>>170086373
>FOH FACK SAKES FRIEDE, BRIGN TAH FOCKING FLAYL


How did Miyazaki get away with this?
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whenst'd've thine ashes arteth two, an flame alighteth'st'd'ed

thou'll'd'st arteth ash, andst fire befitteth'st'd'll'nt'ed thee'st'd've's of courseth's'd'ed've
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>>170087000
>no laughing
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>>170087000
Shit-ash dead dude, know'st thou the'th king'th whomst dideth the flameth thingyth?
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COME ONE COME ALL

In just three weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

Sign-up sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Twin Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.
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who /uninstalledDS3/ here
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>>170088898
>uninstall ds3
>when dlc is coming this month
dumbo
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>>170080781
Knight Champion of Londor
A knight in polished armor, simple but elegant. He stands about 6' 5". His greatsword is long and impressive but unadorned, similar to his shiny armor. He also bears a shield with no crest made from steel with some gilding and engraving along the edges but noting special. He has 100 separate attack animations and can cancel into or out of any one of them to another at will. You may not see the same attack twice battle to battle. All do mid to high damage but bear no element. He reads inputs and cannot be parried. He's decent at shield breaking and very high stagger limits His shield has 90% block against all elements and magic but he doesn't drop it when he dies. Can be statused but resistances are all high. Artorias level elemental resistance. His weapon and armor drops are all above average but not the best. Flavor text is similar to Solaire's in that there was nothing terribly special about him. He just possessed great will and never stopped practicing.
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>>170089007
>implying it isn't going to be just as bad as AoA
This man isn't even trying anymore.
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>>170085408
jump off the fucking tower because you're using the dragon form
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>>170088898
I'm trying to keep playing so I don't lose interest before TRC, but the game is making it hard.

>literally one sign in all of Irithyll
>not even a faithful invasion after Sulyvahn
I mean, I can still invade just fine, but it's no fun if the tables aren't turned once in a while.
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>>170088898
I feel you anon, so much.
DaS1 gave me 300+ hours of play while I couldn't keep playing past my 90th hour of DaS3.

The game is so casualized and new player friendly while being absolutelly void of any interesting builds besides 4-5 standard ones with the usual memebuild that makes no sense and gets you bored past Farron.

And the DLC was just eye candy and a poor attempt on recreating the Sif fight for people to feel "le sad".
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>>170088898
>>170089675
>already having nostalgua googles for Dark Souls 1

lmao
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>>170089814
>Interconnected world full of options vs linear corridor full of enemies with everyone running refined weapons.
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>>170089923
Stop exaggerating you living meme
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>>170089618
>keep playing so you don't lose interest but instead burnout

y tho
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>>170089995
>"S-stop exaggerating xD"

Tell me how many times did you backtrack in this game my man.
Or how many characters do you have at SL 120.
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>>170088676
>Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Twin Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned
>All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
shit tourney 2bh
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>>170090223
t. scottjund
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>>170090223
>shit tourney 2bh
>no healing
>shit
wut
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>>170089618
>not even a faithful invasion after Sulyvahn
I was getting those constantly the other day
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>>170090114
>stuttering and ironic shitposting

Bravo /v/, what's the next step in your masterplan?
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>>170090114
>how many times did you backtrack in this game my man

tbf, the only reason you had to backtrack in 1 is because you couldn't just teleport everywhere.

2 and 3 have bonfire teleportation from the start of the game to any bonfire you've unlocked.
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>>170090114
If should tell you something if you have to consciously add fake stutter and a XD to make a point you disagree with seem bad.
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>>170090006
Backlog too stronk
If I quit now, I'll miss the release and be late to the party. Again.

>>170090361
Not one week ago I was too. Today - nothing.
I've invaded the same guy three times over a few hours yesterday and today. The game just seems dead.
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>>170089479
You fight him in a traditional arena with a seating for a large crowd but each chair is populated by only corpses. Lore implies they are all his past fallen foes. When you defeat him he quietly mentions something about finally being able to rest. His tall corpse appears in a prominent chair of the arena. It clutches a broken pendent with no known use. Text mentions he missed home.
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>>170090223
How are you even going to tell if someone has any healing shit on or not?
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>>170090669
cheat engine
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>>170090669
Collectors Edition
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I am ready to shit on poisebabies
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>>170090541
There's a bonfire every 2 setps in this game, leaving the tension and actual survival experience out of the question.

DaS 3 is a casualized triple A without much room for improvement until they change what makes this game boring and unreplayable.
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>>170090765
you need the bloodring
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Behold!

THE BEARDED DRAGON!
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>>170090765
>not a quickstep weapon
enjoy getting two shot
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I HAVE CANDY.
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Why do people keep running around in a circle as if to say "look at me! I'm not using lock-on!!"
What the hell are they trying to bait me into?
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>backstep into R1 gives you a running attack
How did I not figure this out sooner?
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>>170090821
>There's a bonfire every 2 setps in this game
You can tell someone has no opinion of his own and is just parroting someone else when even the wording of his complaint follows the same pre-baked format of prime memesters.
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>>170091302
>inb4 he posts the screenshot of Dragonslayer to Archives bonfies
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>>170091257
I always took that as a sign of nonaggression or friendliness. Or at least a "lets have silly fun killing each other" type of gesture. That's why I do it anyway.
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>>170088676

For country/location, do I have to specify my state if I live in the US?
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>>170091302
>I am not going to take in consideration the opinion of those I disagree with.

Nice.
And by the way, my last week consisted of me trying to use different builds and have the most possible fun with this game while comparing it to previous instalments and the result was a ongoing 3 day hiatus.

If you are going to disrespect someone's opinion either don't bother to post or try to actually prove a point instead of disregarding a fact about a game only because you don't like it.

>>170091509
That's too easy to point out because the design is so retarded a first time player could think about it not being needed there.

Farron is the worst offender as both areas are plagued by unnecessary bonfires.
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>>170091105
>quickstep
>useful for anything besides Cathedral of the Deep/Farron Keep
Good one. It's a mediocre gimmick that doesn't contribute anything better than a <30% roll with Milkring.
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>>170091667

If you want you can, we're more concerned with just general location and internet speed so we can work around any possible latency and predict connection issues before they arise.
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>>170091785

Got it. Thanks.
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>>170090961
>taking even more damage in an already squishy ass build
Anon no dont make me do dumb shit
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What do you really hate about dark souls 1?
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>>170091948
but you'll like never get hit
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>>170091632
I get what you're talking about, but I mean after the fight has started. They'll briefly disable lock-on and run around in a circle before turning it back on. They're up to something but I can't figure out what.
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what exactly IS Darklurker?
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>>170082947
Kek
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>>170092004
Pvp and post-lordvessel areas.
The rest is really well done and fun to play for this day.
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>>170092004
Slipping off of platforms in blight town.
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>>170092004
It's terrible balance and reuse of the asylum demon.
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>>170092019
If only lag souls wasn't a thing
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>>170092004
That they never released the unfinished parts as a second DLC.
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>>170092004
The soul absorption sound is fucking horrible
VWOOOOOORP
VWOOOOOOOOOOOOORP
VROOOOP
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>>170091707
>If you are going to disrespect someone's opinion either don't bother to post or try to actually prove a point instead of disregarding a fact about a game only because you don't like it.

Like you did with s-s-s-stuttering and "xD"'s?
fucking lel
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>>170091948
>implying that rolls are not so bullshit in this game for you to spam them without ever being in danger
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What percentage of this General is pc only master race?
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>>170091707
There are a few degree of separation between a valid opinion, and just spouting false fact.

I totally respect any Anon who criticizes the game on the basis of things like how forgiving the rolls are, the balance problems with the equipment system and the various weapon types, or even the lack of interconnectivity between areas. I might not agree with them, but I respect them.

But people who come up with complains such as "This game just gives you a bonfire every 2 feet and as a result is a casual fest" are as factually wrong as if you were to say "Dark Souls 1 is nothing but reused prop models disguised as enemies while you run through mandatory damage infinite gamma lava".

Not every claim made by someone deserves respect, you see. Or else you'd have to politely take in consideration whatever fool that crawled in and said "I don't like [x] game in this franchise because I think it is a furfag pandering fantasy" rather than just telling him to go away.
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>>170092232
>Stop exaggerating you living meme

If you act as a faggot I will tell you, it's not like you can spout meme language while I have to try and make a point.
The difference is that you tried to dismissed a fact with childish language while I just laughed at your shitty attempt at ridiculing my post.

Don't be so mad kid.

>>170092505
Dark Souls reused models in the stray demon boss fights and izalith only while every area except cathedral of the deep and the optional ones are infested with bonfires.

You are free to count how many are there in this game and compare it to DaS1.
Consider that you can teleport to ALL bonfires in this game making it a lot less important to not die in "x" boss or area because you can try again in a few seconds due to bonfire placing.

Take a look at Farron Keep Perimeter for example.

Why was that needed? There was another one in a straight line to the boss door a few seconds behind.

If that's not casualization I don't know what do you understand for that word anymore.
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>>170092839
>Don't be so mad kid.

Ok, /v/-kun
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>>170088676
>Resinmania

I am humbled
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>>170080781
one final dragonslayer
Not-Not-Not-Ornstein
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>>170092839
Bonfires in ds3 just decrease the time spent walking around idly in ds1 because you made some mistake.
Giving someone a shorter effective respawn doesn't casualize the game.
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>>170093429
shut up cardboard boy
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>>170093434
Allowing someone to not be punished for a mistake is casualization.

The time you spent wandering in DaS1 was what actually made the game hard, not the boss fights but the things previous to them.

For example, Gaping Dragon is a shit boss but you NEEDED to open the shortcut to access the boss area sooner.
If that area was remade in DaS3 they would have placed another Bonfire where Doomhall of Zena speaks with you.
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>>170091632
I just spin around rapidly to replace all gestures
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>>170093434
it allows more frequent replenishment of resources, a better vantage point and less punishment from mistakes, it's literally casualization. and i don't say that as some elitist 2hardcroe4u faggot, this detracts from the game. would you feel the same clutch if you could use a bonfire right after draining the water in new londo or after you got past the boulder in sens?
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>>170093627
but that shit makes it a harder game for everyone, not just the lower skilled players. It's like a lower artificial skill floor
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May sound cheesy, but in honor of Logan, I'm going to do a Wolverine build. Weapons is no contest, but any idea on armor?
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>>170080781
A boss similar to Vendric but more aggressive. But instead of Giant souls affecting his defense, He gains 90% damage mitigation against players with 40/40 str/dex, a refined weapon equipped, or a straight sword equipped.
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Why is the lag in this game so bad? Atleast in DaS3 we know when the opponent is lagging and its usually a pain for both the sides. But in DaS2 its only good for the person who is lagging.
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>>170094019
True "hard" games keep being hard even if you know how to play.

That's why you could still fuck up plenty of times in Londo's Archers or Londo Rafters even if you knew what to do.

You can play DaS3 twice and never have problems with any area or boss again, only if you cripple yourself with lower level or underperforming builds.
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>>170093627
>but you NEEDED to open the shortcut

Yeah, because Depths is long as dicks and boring as hell. Did people actually have trouble with that place?
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>>170094281
Not trouble but boredom.
Eitherways the area was perfectly crafted, is a fucking underwater laberinth that feels like a schore to do.
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>>170094104
nothing really resembles his suit. you could always go shirtless or some shit. otherwise, probably xanthous set with black knight helm
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>>170092004
Can't make boss weapons till halfway through the game, when majority of well-designed areas are already behind.
Retarded bonfire placement (way too much bonfires in some areas, not enough in others).
Estus system (too easy to get 20 flasks and even 10 is enough to BTFO entire early game).
STR weapons are the worst they ever were aside from MSGS and crystal great club.
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>>170094371
But punishing someone by boring them to death doesn't make a game better.
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Any of y'all here play King's Field? Having just finished DkS2, but without any manner to play BB or DkS3, I've turned to the series past.
I've tried out King's Field 1-3 thus far, and 2 has left the best impression. Do you guys have any preference?
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>>170094119
They decided to use a different version of engine compared to all other souls game which resulted in some of the shittiest and one-sided lag i ever saw in games.
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>>170094515
No but you can't brag about your game being hard when it isn't.
Dark Souls 3 is better than Dark Souls 1 in many ways, but it's not harder by any means.
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>>170094623
This is so dumb! Are all arena fights this laggy?
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>>170094739
Yes, arena is generally unbelievably laggy. It's a bit better in random invasions but who the fuck does those in DS2.
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>>170094739
You do remember what happened to the game who tried too much too fast?
It died, Jill
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>>170095215
Yeah, poor Dark Souls 3.
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>>170095261
>ds3
>tried
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>>170088898
A month or so ago. Don't really enjoy the game as much as previous ones, but I honestly don't even know if that's the game or just souls burnout in general so I tend to just refrain from the shitposting. Looking forward to the DLC so I started lurking in here again.
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Is the old wolf Curved Sword as fun as it looks? I'm weighing whether or not its worth farming sword grass and being a dexfag.
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how do I cosplay this glorious motherfucker?
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>>170096534
I mean it's fine, just a curved sword with a boost that stacks with the pontiff ring.

Looks gross as fuck though lol, like what kinda retard designs a fuzzy sword?Would look great without it.
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>>170096631
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>moaning shield requires 50 str
>heavy as shit
>morne's gh requires 50 str and 30 fai
>heavy as shit
>morne's armor weighs as much as the titanic
this nigger eygon is just flat out using CE to max out his stats
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>>170096534
The weapon art is probably one of the best punish attacks on any melee weapon
Too bad it can't be buffed or infused though.
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>>170080781
Ghost boss fight.

You fight him in a library with lots of bookshelves and 3 floors, he walks through every object in the roomand through floors.

In other to maintain fairness and avoid frustrating "can't hit enemy through wall, but enemy can hit you", the specter attacks you with close range attacks.

The design should not be of a humanoid, it should look like an eel with multiple arms that floats horizontaly when attacking and moves verticaly through floors, never doing diagonal upward/downward moves getting half of its body stuck betwen floors.

The boss behavior is that he circles around the player from a fixed distance, then once he starts and attack he will do one of three moves:

First it will make a vertical circular motion and then sundenly dash towards the player, damaging if the player touches the head. He will return to the normal circling state.

The second is that the specter will narrow the circling until he is above the player and dash downwards, same damge hitbox, hoowever if the specter misses he will follow up with a dash upswards. In both of these cases, the specter will move a floor down or up in the environment, and await the player to follow him. If the player takes too long...

The third, similar to nito's gravelord spike, the specter screetches and lunges to where the player is. The timing on the dodge/block is consistent in this move.

Not supposed to be a tought boss to fight, just really weak to magic, no special resistances. About 1200 hp, the windows to attack should bewhile the specter circles the player but the bookshelves and environment should give the player a harder time to hit the boss.
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>>170097113
DaS has been using cheating nigger NPCs since Tarkus
>Sen's Fortress
>Full Black Iron, Towershield, Greatsword
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>>170097113
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>>170094416
Thinking about taking a look at Mirrah boots and Grave Warden chest, don't know about head/arms.
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>>170094214
>That's why you could still fuck up plenty of times in Londo's Archers or Londo Rafters even if you knew what to do.
You can't really, every new playthrough of mine I just snipe the guardians and ninja flip through the greatarrows then get the archers to kill themselves because their AI is retarded.

The game is only hard if you apply limitations to yourself like an idiot
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what SM are you people at? I'm 1.4mil and can't get any summons. I'm at Cave of the Dead trying to take out ganksquad
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>its a greatsword pyro waifufag
Thats worth a triple pointdown
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>>170098573
Listen, man. I just need to switch between my tiny arsenal of 10-ish pyro weapons every single game or I just can't endure arenas, it's so boring. AGS is one of those.
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How many of you guys are still playing DaS2?

And also whats the SM for iron bridge PvP?
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>>170098825
AGS is fine, thats astora's greatsword, right? The greatsword weaponclass is cancer.
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>>170097525
More like since Demon's Souls considering who Eygon and Irina are referencing.
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>>170099002
Whats wrong with greatswords as opposed to UGS?
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>>170098869
3-5m SM range
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>>170099002
Oh yeah, I'm dumb. It feels like a greatsword at times considering how light it is. I also carry an Onyx Blade.
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>>170099119
Jesus christ thats high, I'll never understand why people in the souls community want to PvP as fucking mary sue characters that are good at everything as opposed to low/mid level characters that are only good at 1-2 things
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>LOL 20 PINWHEELS AND A BILLION SKELETON BABBYS XDDDD

what the fuck were they thinking

this place is worse than lost izalith
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>>170099086
They got the straight sword treatment and now they're fast as fuck with ultra range, lolhugdamage, and some hyperarmor. Thusly theyre becoming overused and are considered cancerous because of how easy it is to use with great effect after little practice.
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>>170099086
Ultra's have an okay speed in combination with their hyperarmor. Greatswords however are fast AND have hyperarmor. The two in combination make it impossible to interrupt a r1 spamming greatsword user. Same goes for glaives.
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>>170099419
>not liking Tomb of the Giants
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>>170099419
They were thinking they'd made the best soulfarm location in the game and they were right.
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>>170099671
I really dislike areas where I can't see more than one inch in front of me, that being said it's not so bad but holy shit, I just fought this shit boss, why are you throwing him at me again as a normal enemy? At least they waited a bit to make capra demon a normal enemy
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>>170099863
>I really dislike areas where I can't see more than one inch in front of me
>DS2 was supposed to be like this the entire game at one point in development
really makes you think.
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How meta/broken is the follower sabre?

What's popular in the PvP scene nowadays?
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>>170100018
gargoyle flame spear, washing pole, anri's straight sword
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>>170100126
>gargoyle flame spear

Not him, but is it really? I just started a build a little while ago which uses that because I liked the look of that strength/dex/faith/int buff. Did I really stumble unwittingly into the meta?
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>>170100018
Was meta defining and crowned the new carthus curved sword. Then both got nerfed. Still a respected weapon.
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>>170100305
i dunno

i just posted the weapons that are banned from the /dsg/ tournament
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Anyway, now that I've stopped being a pussy and actually killed the pinwheels

that's a big fucking fall

Am I about to experience the "time to take a sippy quickly" meme
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>>170100018
Straight sword R1 spam has been replaced with greatsword hyerarmor R1 spam. Other than that Washing pole, Freide's Scythe, quick-turn Chaos vestiges, and some old fashioned passive parry baiting.
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>>170099569
A GS can hyper armor through most light and medium weapons, at 26ish poise you get poise through hammers.
Another GS or Ultra will still stagger you through your hyper armor.

Main issue is that Ultra weapons are fucking retardedly slow still, even awful players can bait out attacks or evade their hits even without rolling. The only main way an ultra can beat a GS is if the GS user is retarded and trying to trade.
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>>170100340
>respected
kek
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>Dancer's righthand sword doesn't deal dark damage
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>>170099863
but there's light aplenty in nito's domain, where the pinwheels and skelebabies reside
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>>170100426
The eeeeEEEEEEE move is pretty easy to dodge if you notice it coming hint:eeeeEEEEEEE.
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>>170099289
this may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this general

how autistic do you have to be
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>>170100732
Build variety perhaps? It's sort of reasonable since towards the higher end of PvP it's more or less homogenous in the kinds of builds you encounter

meta meme weapon+ some sort of infusion+ cast homing soul mass/buffs, etc.

Obviously we shouldn't really be running around at SL 20 but high level PvP is sort of a drag desu
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>>170100941
have you played DS2 before??? you can fuck around with literally anything and be fine
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>>170100436
I've used ultra's a lot, and they are pretty easy to use. The speed never bothered me much, only against spears/rapiers. I just really dislike the poisemeta ds3 is creating where hammers, greatswords, and glaives poise through most small weapons.
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>>170101118
Oh didn't realize he was talking about DS2

Thought we were talking about DS3

whoops~
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Anyone got problems with the item swapper on the table too?
for the life of me i cant open the Item Swapper tab in ce
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>>170101490
post a screenshot
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>girls from DLC trailer holds a Vagrant egg
>Gwyn left his youngest daughter in ringed city but promised to come back to her
Miyazaki will go for "Gwyn's daughter tried to reach him by sending vagrants into the outside world", ain't he.
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>>170101798
a screenshot

But how is that going to help my problem?
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>>170101812
if you never saw it, Jesus Camp is back on US Netflix
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what straight sword/curved sword has the longest range throughout its entire moveset?
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>>170102013
pontiff curved sword has the longest range of "normal" weapons. as in, it's very long, but not long enough to where that is its defining characteristic

gotthard's twinswords when 1h have the longest range of any staright sword.
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>Doing SL1 playthrough
>finish off aldritch
>I guess Ill kill the dancer now
>get dancer to a shred of health left, get stuck on a pillar and die
>running back in to get my 400k souls
>the spear night just barely clips me as I run past, and I stagger just barely enough for the sword night to gank me with his buddy without me being able to do anything about it
>lose all interest to even play the character anymore as the risk factor is gone
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>Yorshka's spear doesn't leech fp with every hit
>It's str requirement won't be lowered
Shame, would've made the weaponart useful in pve. And 18 str is way too high of a requirement for a spear.
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>>170101847
it helped me understand your issue. you need to click harder, it will work. ce is just being tsundere
jackass
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>>170101798
normally you can tick the box and the tree with item id and shit appears but with item swapper it aint working
everything else does tho
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>>170102417
imo it just needs better str/fai scaling and the weapon art should just grant 3 FP every hit.

would make a fun str/fai weapon
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>>170101170
>soul memory
>ds3
You're not even trying
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Are all of the threads for das3 on the cheatengine forums dead?
Trying to hack shit in to make a cosplay easier, but it looks like a mod went nazi or something and nuked everything.
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Post weaponfus for souls games
DaS: Bandit Knife
DaS2: Warped Sword
DaS3: they're all fucking shit and not fun, probably valorheart
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>>170103651
>DaS
Black Knight Glaive
>DaS2
Roaring Halberd
>DaS3
Thrall Axe
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>>170103651
des
D ragon B all S

das
havel's greatshield

das2
loyce greatsword

memeborne
cucchammer or gatling gun

shit souls
pointyhat swampguy ultra funsword
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>>170103651
>DaS
BK Halberd
>DaS2
Sun Sword/Berserker blade
>DaS3
nothing? I legitimately can't really remember what weapon I used to kill the last few bosses. I liked the lothric holy sword but it was pretty terrible to use since it's damage was so terrible, not to mention you can only get it once youre pretty much 90% finished with the game.
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>>170103651
>DaS: Claymore
>DaS3: Lothric Knight Greatsword
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>>170103575

What are you trying to do?

>>170103651

>DeS: Epee Rapier
>DaS: Velka's Rapier (Closely followed by Painting Guardian Sword and Prscilla's Dagger.)
>DaS2: Sacred Chime Hammer
>DaS3: Golden Ritual Spear
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>>170103651
>Not liking ds3 weapons
Shit taste man, ds3 has so many fun weapons but farron gs is my favorite.
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>Pick Astora SS
>Infuse it raw
>You will never need another weapon and you can straight level up vigor and endurance

Lmao why is this allowed, I use this shit in every fucking run no matter the build.
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>>170103651
>DS1
HALBERD
A
L
B
E
R
D
>DS2
Longsword. Works on pretty much any build and that r2 poke is godly.
>DS3
Lothric Knight Longsword/Claymore
LKLS is for the spammy r1 which suits Dark Souls 3s combat. Claymore is for a slightly slower but higher damage alternative.
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>>170104209
Just looking to hack in items.
Specifically, pharis's hat, clandestine coat, conjurator manchettes, herald trousers, rings, and an irithyll straight sword.
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>>170104301
Because respecs exist, so there's no reason not to do this on every single build then change it when you get to the point of progress you wanted.
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>>170104427
>normal Halberd
That's the least fun Halberd though.
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>>170104535
I want to do a Oscar cosplay just to use it more often instead of swapping to another one.
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>>170103651
Halberd
Handaxe(yes, really)
Longsword, then Wolnir's Greatsword. Second play through, Dragonslayer's Axe
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>>170104468

You can just drop an item that you don't need and replace its item ID with the ID of the thing you're looking for. When you pick it up, it'll be completely different. I can walk you through how to do it if you want.
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>>170104671
a walkthrough would be nice if i've gotta do it manually, i always used the script on the table to
thanks buddy
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>>170104298
DS3 had the weakest weapon line up out of all the souls games. Yeah there are a few exceptions like the farron meem sword but those are far and few in between. And the other ones that do have 'interesting' weapon arts are often unviable and are never really used.

This is also considering the fact that DS2 had the best line up of fun/viable weapons.
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>>170103651
>mfw trying to think of DaS3 weaponfu
I literally just opened the wiki, went over the entire weapon list and for every single weapon I thought the same fucking thing
>oh right, I used this in one of playthroughs
>did I like using it?
>no
Going over twindaggers, Eleonora, Wolnir's, Crescent Moon and Partizan and all the scythes I felt like crying
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I don't like Nito's fight

It feels like it's one of those patience fights and I hate that kinda fight
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>>170104864
come on man, not even valorheart?
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>>170104953
Ancient Dragon knocks the second game down by two points for me.

Fuckin shockwaves.
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>>170104953
*muffled bone rattling in the distance*

SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170103651
DS1 only baby here

SKSS/Broadsword
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>>170104572
There's no greater feeling than stunlocking someone for high damage with your poke of death. Spin2win is cherry on top.
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I've been fucking around with Valorheart for a while now on my SL50 but realized that its incredibly stamina intensive since when you're trading with someone youre blocking their attack.

Is there a way to make Valorheart work on a low SL build? Around SL~60 ish?

Whats the minimum required? Any general advice appreciated
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>>170105170
I just like the swings better. But I also don't do PvP.
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>>170104773

No problem.

Also, just saying, for the armors you can just enable the "Unlock all shopkeeper inventory" script and purchase them from the handmaiden. If you don't want to bother with that, then do this:

>open CE
>load up DS3
>get some items you don't need, but that you can drop and pick back up (i.e. homeward bones, mossfruit, resins, bundles...)
>open up section called "item swap"
>click on "item swap helper" to get the item IDs and copy them (there's also a list of them online)
>go back to DS3, drop the item you don't want and leave it there
>go back to CE and you will notice that some parameters have changed to match the item you dropped
>left click on the item name and then replace the value with the ID of the item you want
>go back to DS3 and pick up the item you dropped
>it should be changed into the item whose ID you entered
>lastly, untick everything and repeat the process until you have your desired items
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>>170105264
I don't have the cheat table, buddy, which is why I asked about the forums themselves
There doesn't appear to be a place to download them anymore
I appreciate the help, though
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>>170104853
>The weakest weapon lineup
Bullshit, thats ds1. Personally I prefer ds3 weapons to ds2 but thats just my preference.
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>>170105407

Oh, fuck, I'm sorry. I completely misunderstood you.
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>>170104853
>DS3 had the weakest weapon line up out of all the souls games
That's DS2, aka "quantity over quality: the game".
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>>170105227
It's still a straightsword. You aren't forced to trade hits with people.
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>>170105456
DS1 has the excuse of being the first one, and I remember vividly when I played it the first time the combat was absolutely amazing.

Newer iterations of the games should be a step forward, not backwards and for all the numerous faults that DS2, weapon variety and movesets weren't one of them.

DS3 on the other hand was......
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>>170105607
You're fucking retarded.
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>>170105227
alternatively you can swap out estus and chloranthy for hunter's and knight's for ~15% more AR maybe
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>>170105749
At least i'm not a DS2 faggot.
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>>170105698
Oh, so you're just a nostalgiafg. Good to know.
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>>170103651
zweihander, estoc and uchigatana in all three

although I tend to use zwei in ds1, estoc in ds3 and uchi in 3 because you get them way earlier than the other two in each game.
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>>170068182
I am outside the deacons of the deep boss on ng+ and i am level 120 and there are no signs. Wtf do I do?
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>combat will never return to the more slow, methodical ds1 combat speed
>we're stuck with bbs fast spammy combat from now on
>red hilted halberd will never be great again for pve with its poke
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>>170105698
Come on, don't admit that's it's only nostalgia.
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>>170105698
The weaponart meme was a mistake, most of them are fucking shit anyway, or just outright copypasted for most of the weapon class like it happened with ultras, straightswords and catalysts
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>>170105698
>weapon variety and movesets weren't one of them
All vanilla DS2 weapons have by far the largest amount of repeating movesets after DeS.
It couldn't even make actually unique animations for boss weapons save for what, MLGS and curved dragon greatsword?

The only weapon DS2 fags bring up constantly is bone fist which was added in the last DLC.
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>>170104853
>This is also considering the fact that DS2 had the best line up of fun/viable weapons.
all of the fun gimmick weapons are shit you don't get access to for most of the game because they're DLC/super late game area only, a problem made worse by DS2 being so long.

it also doesn't help that the animations/general feel of attacks feels like dogshit in DS2
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Guys how do I fix this? It used to work but I reinstalled windows and formatted my drives and now this happened.

I tried every solution I found but nothing works.
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>>170105939
Yuo don't rike?
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>>170105875
>>170105972

>nostalgiafag
Because games should be compared to their contemporaries when they first came out, not the newest hotness.

I'm not saying that DS1 has amazing combat when compared to games from now, but again I reiterate my point about how games should be advancing forwards and getting better not going backwards which is clearly what DS3 did.

Obviously that has part to do with how DS2 fucked up alot but atleast it tried some new shit and some of that new shit was very good.
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Why is it when people shit on DaS2, they always reference "Vanilla" DaS2, as if that is the game people still play. Once SotFS came out, "Vanilla" DaS2 became irrelevant.
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>>170105227
you have limited stamina at that SL and shit stability on lower upgrade levels, so good luck
time to pick a top tier and go longsword m8
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>>170106210
If i bring SOTFS i will be able to shit on DS2 even harder because it severely limits freedom of exporation which is DS2's only saving grace.
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>>170106228

try again buddy >>170105783

also it always has 50 stability regardless of upgrade level
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>>170106210
It's because everyone and their moms are ragging on ds3 so quickly and comparing it to ptde edition and sotfs. Sotfs is shit anyway.
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>>170106184
I don't get it, has 1 got better or worse gameplay than the others? You say it's got the excuse of being worse because it was the first and at the same time say 3 walked backwards because of it
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>>170106184
>DS2 fucked up alot but atleast it tried some new shit and some of that new shit was very good.
Like soul memory? branches of yore? learning all the wrong lessons from DS1 covenants? adaptability? ruining invasions? no consequences for your actions at all because all NPC's just fucking respawn and you can't get them killed via their little plot? Letting you wear shitloads of armor and still fastroll? Ruining healing with lifegems and thus completely fucking up the entire core of the gameplay for both pve and pvp?

Only actual improvements are minor shit like asthetics, soul vessels and the tiny white soapstone. DS3 isn't perfect but it wasn't full of obviously horrible ideas like DS2 was.

>>170106210
The only actual improvements in SOTFS are fixes that should've been in the original game anyway like the warf shortcut bridge. It's not even a clear cut improvement, you telling me you enjoyed fighting pursuer and forlorn 200 times and having to be arbitrarily blocked off by petrified people constantly?
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>>170106210
SotFS barely fixed shit anyway, why would they ask for money to just change up some enemy and item placement of which only some branch and the dull emeber helped anything instead of actually fixing the actual issues with the game?

SotFS fixes none of the big issues with the game
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>>170106780
but there are no big issues with the game

soul memeory isn't an issue, it's just poor design
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>>170103651
>DS1
Black Knight Greatsword
>DS2
Blue Flame
>DS3
uuuuh... demon fists
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>>170105939
I like fast combat desu
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>uninstalled dark souls 1 to make room on pc(didn't REALLY need it but more room feels nice)
>want to mess around in it later
>the save file isn't there
>tfw think I deleted it by uninstalling
>on top of that the fps is like 5 despite being fine with dsfix before
god damn it
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>>170106210
fuck sotfs, belfry luna having the bastile key mean people actually had a reason to enter it. sotfs makes that area 100% optional like all the other area protection covenants so they get way less invasions.
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>>170107013
>uuuuh...

Why not Black Knight Greatsword if you are so unsure? You can't say BKG for dark souls 2 that's for sure.
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Is there anything important in Blighttown or Sen's Fortress ? I rushed these places, I hate them so fucking much.
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>>170107000
>soul memeory isn't an issue, it's just poor design

Ignoring how fucking stupid this is, even the devs admit soul memory was a mistake with the agape ring.

It completely fucks the entire online framework of the game, one of the main selling points.
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>>170106109

When does it crash? Are you using fresh save files or your old ones?
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What build could I make to help out phantom summons the most?

I've literally never summoned anyone that wasn't just an NPC I brought along for fun. What items and spells support your coop partners? Hard to know what I'd have to Google to find what I'm looking for, so I'd appreciate the help.
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>>170107142
I used both friend but I like the firsts more for the spin move
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>>170107236
Depends, what build are you running?
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>>170107354
Its new install, no save files. I cant get into game, it crashes as soon as I open it. I don't have white screen or anything like I saw other people have.
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>>170107236
blightown has an extremely broken buff spell, the only convenient way to cure toxic (if you have a decent INT score), one of the best shields in the game (eagle greatshield), an estus flask upgrade and (for a certain value of important) the only whip that isn't in a hidden area. Speaking of, one of the hidden areas is hidden in there.

sens has the late game sorcery trainer and that's about it.
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Hmm after reading about what some anons think about the turn from DaS combat to BB combat in 3 I have to say that they are right.

I will never ever trade methodical and slow paced combat for "spam these two buttons and hope the other guy is worse than you."

There's not much room for improvement in DaS3, neither it is for diversity build wise.
There is literally no reason to use something that isn't refine infusion.
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>>170107312
>poor designs and mistakes are mutually exclusive

that's one hell of a roundabout way of agreeing with me there pardner

that being said, the game runs nice and proper with soul memory, just as it was intended. the intention behind it was to prevent a meta. Big M doesn't like people staying at a specific, low level forever. it goes against the point of nigh-infinite levelling
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>>170107393
I have no idea. I want to say a dex build but I leveld str by mistake, so I have the same amount of dex and str. I'm using a rapier.
Also, is Ricard's rapier better than the normal rapier ?

>>170107573
Thanks
I got the spell, but missed everything else.
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>all this ds3 hate
>tfw thought ds3 was overall the most fun from start to finish
I can blow through ds3 no problem while I lose intrest in ds1 after O&S and ds2 I take months to finish a playthrough.
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>>170107573
You can buy or farm the better moss much earlier. Convenient my ass.
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>>170103651
DeS: Meat cleaver
Das1: Gravelord sword
Das2: Bone fist
Das3: Millwood greatbow
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>>170107664
Actually yeah, try to pick the covetous gold serpent ring in Sen's.
It is behind a wall where the boulders pile up, wait for a bit until one crushes the wall.

When you get it, try your luck killing the big scary skeletons near firelink shrine.

If they drop you a Murakumo you will be dreaming of me tonight my man, that weapon is nuts for a str/dex build.
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>>170107571

Did you try removing the intro video? The game will crash if it can't play it. Sometimes just removing it is not enough, you have to create another file to replace it. A renamed text file will do.
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>>170107667
It's different for all people I guess.


>tfw have hundreds of hours in every souls game.
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>>170107236
>Blighttown
Iaito, Power Within, Whip, bunch of souls, green and large shards, 1 dragon scale, server, great club, large club, pickaxe,
>Sens
Manserpent GS, flamberge, Ring if steel protection, slumbering dragoncrest ring, muffle spell, large shards, demon titty, titty chunks, Logan, gold serlent ring, flame stoneplate, balder and berenike stuff, Ricard's rapier, rare ring of sacrifice, divine blessing, a few souls, all the shit the merchant sells
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>download AoA
>beat epic secret boss and get arena ashes
>not a single person in 3v3 or 6 player brawl

It was so worth it to sacrifice additional sp content for this arena mode that literally nobody plays. I can't wait for Ringed city to be just as short and shit as Ashes of Ariendel.
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>>170107667
Just because it's new, anon.
DaS3's PvP and Arena are stale and boring overall.
And the PvE is really nothing out of this world and you can rush most of the game without even trying.
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>>170106110
I haven't played it but the faster combat in bb seems to work well because of a number of things balanced around it. Between your dodge when locked on, the rally mechanic and no poise it seems balanced.

In DS3 it's still very enjoyable, but without these things it feels like they just took dss combat and sped everything up without thinking of balancing it.

Meanwhile the slower DeS/DS/DS2 combat requires that more skill. This duel like approach complete with the downtime where noone is doing anything feels more rewarding to play. You try attacking then roll spamming in ds3 and you'll usually have enough stamina but in the older games you'll get punished for it, especially 2 which does rolling stamina costs the best.

I think a good example is OandS or the Darklurker fights. You get attacked frequently, but with breathing room between each. A well placed roll is rewarded whilst spamming roll is punished to a greater extent than in DS3. Plus it looks better using a well timed roll rather than spamming it considering your character is a knight like dude most of the time.

Plus being slower gives fast weapons more of an identitiy. Slower weapons match the slower speed of the game like say the claymore. Something like the gold tracer or twinblades stand out due to being much faster than the games combat speed. In DS3 instead fast weapons MATCH the general combat speed with slower weapons being punished and having to rely on trading more. This also makes stuff like bleed or poison more rewarding to pull off since it's harder to do so.

This also affects build variety. If I want to use an ultra greatsword or something similar I think of the games before BB/DS3.

I guess the biggest thing beyond skill is stagnation. If the games just stay fast from here on out with the same mechanics and characteristics that entails then I can see it getting old fast.
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>>170108068
That's what you get when 90% of the playerbase is edgy fedora kids that despite anything that's not a 1v1.

6v6 is the only reliable feature out of this shitty PvP meme mode.
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>>170107667
Same here, ds3 feels like a proper ending to the series and I'll gladly keep playing it.
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>>170107879
This weapon is pure sex
I'm already in Anal Rodeo so I can't go back now, but I will later if I ever succeed with a +1 estus flask.

>>170107975
Thanks for the list
I believe I took almost everything of importance to me, except a few stuff, but I'll get that later.
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>>170108102
>DaS3's PvP and Arena are stale and boring overall.
Play a real competitive game instead of souls with it's garbage delay based netcode you cunt.

I'm tired of every souls game/patch nerfing a bunch of shit that was meta in the previous games PVP because of you fucks
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>>170108442
PvP is, next to speedrunning, the only things that has kept these games alive.

Educate yourself meme man.
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>>170108442
I believe weapons should be balanced in singleplayer games but fromsoft really overnerfs weapons.
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>>170108102
>Just because it's new
Nah, these are my thoughts about each game after the first time I beat them.
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tfw no chalice dungeon equivalent
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>>170107905
If that is the file in movie folder, I tried it.
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>>170107667
magic is the best it's ever been, throwing items and bows are actually useful, best roster of bosses in the series BY FAR, your NPC interactions and covenant choices actually matter to the events of the game, the actual online framework and covenants are the best they've ever been. the layout of the levels themselves is overall very strong and intricate even if the game itself is more linear (a fair tradeoff imo). best esus system in the series by far

it's not perfect but most of the complaints about DS3 are either heavily opinion based stuff like "I think it's too fast" "my personal build type isn't pvp meta" or things that DS2 introduced to the series first.
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>>170108990
>magic is the best it's ever been
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>>170108990
>magic is the best its ever been
>covenants are the best they've ever been
entire post disregarded, bait as fuck
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>>170109051
what kind of strange place do you live where you start laughing at facts?
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>>170108990
>bows are actually useful
>mfw >>170109051
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>>170108565
>the only things that has kept these games alive.
What does this even mean? What benefit does a game being "alive" do for me?

I load up DS2 and I literally can't make a faith character that throws lightning bolts or a hex character that throws anything besides dark orb because from nerfed that shit into the ground because of PVP memers that try to make souls a serious 1v1 game instead of one that's about ganking people and dicking around.

If you want serious competitive games, play a fighting game or quake, games with netcodes that aren't shit and which have way more potential interaction and thinking between players than any souls game does when played in 1v1 meta format.
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>>170108990
>best estus system by far
>permahealing
>phantoms able to fully heal 2-3 times in a row
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>that quick attack speed despite its size
Holy fuck this weapon is fun.
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>>170108990
and you wonder why people shit on ds3 and ds3 fanboys holy fuck
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>>170108990
Agreed, screw the memers. They probably circlejerk all day about ds1/2 but don't even play those dead games because they know they're lacking in a ton of ways.
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>>170108990
>this is what ds3 defenders actually believe
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>>170108080
why did they have to mess with the dragonoid design from 1? it was perfect and it only got worse in 2 and then even worse in 3
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>>170108990
>>170109364

>being this much of a ds3 cocksucker
>disregarding every bad aspect of the game and trying to prove a point by trying to shit on actual good games
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>>170108990
>magic is the best it's ever been
>3 mandatory ring slots
>shitty no damage until you hit 60 or 40/40 (45/45 for hexers because fuck dark magic :^))

I think you're thinking of DaS2, the literal top tier of magic in the souls series (not counting BB)
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Can anyone on PC help me kill deacons of the deep real quick?
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>>170109190
But if you don't care about PvP, why don't you play the game unpatched? It's very easy to avoid gamebreaking bugs
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>only 23.1% of players of steam have the achievement "get to Anor Londo"

What the fuck
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>>170109513
>Having such shit taste while nostalgiaposting about ds1/2 on /dsg/
The game still has a dlc to be released and potential patches. Ds1 and 2 are pretty much fucked and abandoned.
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>>170109429
>weird bird thing in 1
>a meh suit of armor in 2
>chupacabra in 3
Dragon form has been consistently shit. They just don't want to put any effort into it. If the fantasy is "being a kick ass dragon" they failed every damn time.
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>>170109786
>he let Aldrich escape the cathedral of the deep

I really hope none of you guys do this
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>>170109848
>The game still has a dlc to be released and potential patches.

Yeah. AoA was sooo good mang, I have high hopes for RC.
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>>170103651
DaS: great sword
DaS2: great sword
DaS3: great sword
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>>170109764
nigga you serious?
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>>170109558
Even before they nerfed the fuck out of most of it, DS2 magic is way worse.

Ash estus alone is a HUGE buff to magic. You don't need to replay the game over and over to have several casts of WOG or the like. You can actually beat an area using magic only instead of running out of casts halfway through.

in DS2 sorcery is soul arrow: the character and worthless compared to hexing. DS3 sorcery finally made stealth/sword magic actually worth using.

DS2 miracles are buffs/healing that DS3 also has and the lightning spells which were completely murdered and before that were better sorcery than sorcery was. DS3 talisman weapon art is a huge buff when combined with the new high damage short range focus all the miracle spells have in this game, and healing works the best of any game

If you think DS2 pyro is even close to DS3 you're just an idiot, everyone knows that DS3 pyro is the best it's ever been, but I'm going to specifically call out that fire seeds are arbitrary bullshit and DS3 removing them was fantastic.

The only real ground you have for DS2 magic is hexing but the patches made that "dark orb and weapon: the character" while the DS3 dark magics are all unique and interesting

As for damage, why exactly is this an issue? You have literally 2-4 times more casts for every spell than you did in DS2 because of ash estus, doing a bit less damage is to be expected. The damage/ring slot issue is only noticable if you either don't minmax your casting stat for some reason as a caster or you're 1v1 PVP (in which case you're a scumbag), magic is still super good in any PVP that isn't 1v1 though, both the supporting stuff and just because trying to dodge darts or CBV while also dodging someone attacking with a washing pole is tough.

In what way is DS2 better? Especially SOTFS/post patches?
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>>170109764
Yeah Im there, summon me.

IGN: Anri of Astora
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>>170110114
Yeah, what's the deal?

>>170110160
Alright, give me a second
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>>170110160
password?
>>170110114
Yeah I need help on it im a sorcerer
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>>170105939
>combat will never return to the more slow, methodical ds1 combat speed
Backstab fishing and dead angling ultras is not fun, it was never fun but it was all we had.
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>>170110248
get pestilent mercury or just use skulls mang
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>>170109230
dark souls is a primary PVE game with a pvp minigame. If this wasn't the case it wouldn't have an offline mode and that's what I'm talking about. in DS1 you can just kindle twice to get 20 estus all the time and in DS2 you have 99 lifegems which means you can beat every area no matter how shit you are by just heal spamming. DS3 heavily reduces this by making consumable healing rare as fuck and having a more gated limit on how many flasks you can possibly have in any given area.

Either way permahealing is still an invalid complaint because DS1 had 99 humanity and DS2 had 99 lifegems.
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>>170110137
>while the DS3 dark magics are all unique and interesting

and fucking useless aswell lmao
good luck hitting a dark edge on a carthus bloodring user
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>>170110312
Probably meant pve not pvp.
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>>170110312
speak for yourself

t. das1 pvp drone
but honestly, i enjoy it. chain and chain defense meta, baiting parries and the emphasis on positioning etc. Of course some stuff like desync magic is broken, but it's still fun even today
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How similar are hollows to zombies in other media?

I feel like a shield isn't a very realistic way to deal with them since shields would never work against them anyway
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>>170110373
>comparing farming 99 fucking humanities to just casually get estus shards that buff your instant healing even further

nigga
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>>170110248
pass dsg, sign right before fog
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>>170110408
>muh PEE VEE PEE

1: using magic in any """"serious""""" DS pvp is fucking stupid because of how good rolling is (1/3) or because of easy as fuck spell parrying (2)
2: play a real fighting game instead of a game series that's been the same "they hit you on their screen so enjoy this meme stunlock combo till they patch it out" bullshit for half decade
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Are there people seriously defending DS3 healing system?

Like, how deluded can you actually be?
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>>170110646
I dont see you
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>>170110548
people can and do cheat for 99 humanity all the time.

>>170110687
people who aren't drones that only care about how good or bad things are in a pvp minigame context, probably.
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>>170110663
>1: using magic in any """"serious""""" DS pvp is fucking stupid

>MAGIC IS THE BEST IN THE SERIES

Im in tears right now.
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Can white sign summoned mound-makers use healing miracles on the host and his or her phantoms?
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>>170110780
I can cheat for infinite HP too
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>>170110663
>magic is the best in the series
>"don't use magic in pvp, it's fucking stupid"

?
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How to fuck invaders

Step 1: Get to Boss Door
Step 2: Use Dried finger
Step 3: Enter boss door once invader or invaders invade
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>>170110646
tyvm
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Oh look, a dark souls thread on /v/. Surely this will be a good thread.
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>>170110137
>Ash estus alone is a HUGE buff to magic

>having less overall charges is a buff
>having to bring less heaing is a buff

>compared to just having a shit ton of charges in all your spells and infinite spell regain consumables.
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>>170111007
Why
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>>170111158
To teach them not to invade
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Ds2 magic was easy to dodge.
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>>170110858
>>170111005
>Things can only be good if they're good in pvp, fuck the actual game
What did retards that cant hack it in real competitive games mean by this?

Souls is not an mmo
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>>170111312
Everything is easy to dodge in DS3.
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>>170111110
It's pretty amazing that it has probably been at least one dark souls thread every day since dark souls 1(PC release) on /v/. It filled /v/ for months after release.

It's also silly that there has almost been at least 1 "What went wrong/now that the dust has settled" thread every day since dark souls 2 release with the eternal debate never ending.
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>>170111110
stupid phoneposter
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>>170111354
Everything is good in the PvE you gigantic buffoon.
A fucking +10 broken sword can be used to beat the game, the PvE in this game is an absolute joke and no seasoned player from other games ever had trouble in it.
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>>170107106
I did the same exact thing.
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Would it break my cosplay as a Xanthous Scholar to wear the Sellsword head instead of the crown with my Xanthous set?
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>>170110408
I can make the same argument for shit like scraps of life or lifedrain patch.

All dark pyos are great. Gnaws are good. Affinity is good. Deep buff is solid. Thats over half of the dark spells
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>>170111639
Yes
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how do i pirate the dlc?
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redpill me on daggers
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>>170111354
If I kill 6 bosses in 1 I can get dark bead and shotgun everything else so fast I can even not see full movesets.
The closest nuke to that in 3 is vestiges, which needs 2 less bosses but is pathetically weaker and rather slow without cast speed.
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>>170111719
>Gnaws are good

Only on PvE and you will deal 400~~ a cast, nothing out of the ordinary.

Deep buff is ok but Sunlight Oath is better.

Dark Edge is great for some bosses but will fuck your mana up in no time and will be useless in PvP most of the times.

Dark Orb is nice.

The Dark Combustion thingy hits like a truck, I will not deny it.
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>>170111578
Possible to beat game with it =/= effective or fun.

If souls is so easy and shitty why would you play it with shitty netcode and whatever meme build of the month like haveljester/2kat when you can get all of the same spacing/mixups and other outthinking in actual fighting game?

If its just because you suck at them for honor exists.
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So it seems pretty clear to me that when DS1 was made, they intended for the Dark Lord ending to truly be about having the fire die and an age of dark take over.

Then DS2 brought the stupid someone super strong always links the fire so we have a cycle crap. Which resulted in DS3s silly noone linked the fire so the flame suddenly decided to resurrect other people who linked the fire, Unkindled and fuse the fighting styles of everyone who linked the flame into the soul of cinder. Despite the first flame doing none of this in DS1.

DS2 should have stuck to the original directors ideas but not be related to DS. Call it Kings Souls or something.

DS3 could've then been DS2 but they'd need to go full BB and have it in an age of dark.
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>>170111979
Good crit damage, quickstep is a great weaponart. Works well with flyns ring.
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>>170112005
>1 broken spell means ds3 having huge buffs in overal useability and variety doesn't matter

Dont bring up ds1 black flame or some shit next, its the same point.

Why even mention pve now? I thought pvp is all that matters?
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>>170111110
Why would the Dark Souls thread on /v/ be any worse than one in here?

>>170111456
I don't blame /v/ for hating the souls fanbase for being tards who can't post in the intended general thread for the series.

>>170110542
>how similar are hollows to zombies in any other media?
White walkers and wights from GoT are probably the closest thing.

>shields would never work against them anyway
Well we're talking about entities that wield weapons and kinda still somehow remember basics of swordfighting so it works pretty plausibly.
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>>170112063
Im actually quite good at fighting games but dark fantasy is my favourite genre by far despite having grown with the former genre.

What Im just saying is that people play this game for the PvE 3-5 times and THEN they PvP only/Invade because PvE doesn't have anything else to offer.
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>>170111264
why?
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>Want to start a INT run
>Remember that this world is not interconnected
>I will just pick Astora SS and disregard any magic, using Crystal Weapon only

Why even bother with magic in this game.
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>>170100426
This part is very stupid, but the boss is good overall.
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>>170112284
>I don't blame /v/ for hating the souls fanbase for being tards who can't post in the intended general thread for the series.

It's mostly /v/ users that go into those threads though.

Most threads on /v/ for a particular video game is filled with people not knowing what they are talking about. Never up to date info and so on.
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>real life will never be this cool
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>>170103651
DaS 1 : Claymore
DaS2 : Halberd
DaS3 : Crescent Axe
Bloodborne : Hunter Axe
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>>170112285
>THEN they PvP only/Invade because PvE doesn't have anything else to offer.

Why not just play other games? If you play fighting game what exactly does souls pvp offer you besides meme build ganks (only really a thing in ds1) and garbage netcode?

The simple fact is people like you are a minority, most sales of souls are as a pve game only. Judging content on how it works in pvp over pve is retarded
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Giant lord is cute! CUTE!

Also what did Vendrick steal that pissed off the giants? I've heard the whole ability to give life thing but that doesn't really seem compelling.

The giants having a prince of sorts like lothric who was very powerful and meant to link the fire who was slain by Vendrick for his strength is my personal headcanon. Giants being understandably pissed at this plus Vendrick not linking the fire would be a good reason for them to invade.
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>>170112640
>The simple fact is people like you are a minority, most sales of souls are as a pve game only

>Judging content on how it works in pvp over pve is retarded

The amount of lies.
Then why does from patch the game according to PvP uh?
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>>170112669
He stole the fucking throne of want nigger, it's like the entire mcguffin of the game.
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>>170112460
You can get the sorcery trainer and two scrolls after fighting two bosses (gundyr and bort) and get all kinds of shit, stop meming
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>>170112860
>and do absolutelly laughable damage until 45+ IN T
forgot to add that part bud
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>>170112735
Why do they fuck invaders more and more with every game if pvp is the focus?
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>>170112285
Not the sane guy, I'm just saying magic in 3 is weaker even in PvE. In 1, even without dark bead, sorcs effortlessly kill any boss without magic resist and pyros beat any without fire resist very easily since they need no stats. Don't even need to mention faith since leveling that up for any reason besides RAW ASS in pve is a sign of a retard or masochist.
2 has hexes very early which easily destroy most of PvE.
The only thing you can argue is that it's more fun, but that's subjective, I don't see any fun in using rapport and watching enemies kill thenselves.

Magic in 3 is a joke
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>>170112990
Invasions =/= PvP

They want to enforce meme duels and honor code.
The way blues are programmed is the only prove you need to see how much do from want to enable the casual audience into this game.
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>>170112963
>int build
>put points in stats other than int

Lol? Not like this game even has adaptability or an equip load that matters.

If you have so much autism you need to do the most effective build then dont use magic in any souls game ever, ds3 is not unique about this
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>>170112460
>In the oh so interconected ds1 you have to kill Quelaag+Gargoyles with basic soul arrows to unlock a bigger soul arrow+homing soulmass
Ds1 fags are so delusional its painful.
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>>170112816
U wot m8? Where is that referenced at all?
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>>170113227
You can get those without killing a single boss from Griggs. Hell, you can get heavy soul arrows from Rickert.
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>>170112669
He took prisoners + some singular item (most likely Giants Kinship) to try and cure the curse. Whatever he took allowed him to create and give life to the golems you find.
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>>170113227
>travel to londo
>pick 20 charges of soul arrow + magic weapon
>save griggs for another 20 soul arrows
>get 60 soul arrows and a enchanted weapon before depths

Learn to play.
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>>170113227
Great heavy is almost as good as soul spear early/mid game and you can get it without fighting any bosses at all with the jump from upper burg to lower
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>>170113227
>not saving the wizard fuccboi from lower burg
>ever using soulmass in PvE
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>>170112990
But invasions are at their best in DS3.

>>170113184
>They want to enforce meme duels
Aha, huh. I guess that's why Bloodborne had zero official ways for dueling and DS3 only got the arena after the playerbase begged From to create an arena into the game.
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>>170113227
>>170113410

sorry, my memory is not as good as it was, griggs gives you magic weapon.
my point still stands though
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>come across a game called Glittermitten Grove
>there's soapstone message
>game is random as fuck
>when you play the "super passive aggressive xenomorph roommate irritation simulator" part you can steal Todd's Souls of Darkness handheld and try to beat his high score
>webm related
i want it
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>>170112735
Souls games are primarily PvE
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Well, hopefully you guys have fought darklurker and can share your thoughts on him as /v/ certainly hasn't.
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>>170113846
Pretty good bullet hell boss. Shame he got hidden in a weak ass covenant.

I'm going to be pretty pleased if all this abyss/angel shit gives him a cameo in the DLC.
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>invade host and two phantoms
>host hiding behind greatshield while phantoms basically play the game for him
>Blue phantom summoned
what's with people wanting to sleepwalk the whole game?
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>>170110416
>>170110312
DS3 adopting the fast combat was the only way to make the game reasonably challenging for veteran players as if the game was built around ds1's 'slower' combat, the response time of bosses and regular enemies would be slower to accommodate the fatrollers, but all the veterans would just strip to their undies and cheese the game by fastrolling.
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>>170114340
I was literally running in undies with a great axe in my first playthrough.
I chopped Vordt's balls so quick he barely even engaged in second form.
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>>170113846
Get off your phone, man, go pay attention to people instead
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>pre-release get super hyped over the angels in ds3
>not angels like how the demons are just monsters with nothing to do with religion but actual holy angels
>game releases
>lol we forgot to add anything to these guys
If TRC doesn't expand on them beyond lol londor pilgrim then Miyazakis days are numbered
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>>170113846
Darklurker confuses me immensely as one of those bosses some people claim is the hardest in the game, but whom I find to be a very pleasant and relaxing fight in comparison with some other bosses. And yes, I did beat him on my first try on my first playthrough of DS2.

That homing explosive dark ball seems like something straight out of Dragon Ball though.
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>>170114340
>extra damage from being naked

From must be really mad using nearly no armor was and still is the easiest way to play the game
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>>170114508
>half past 12 at night
>go socialise
Wot
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>>170114648
Doesn't seem so, they've had 3-4 games to buff armor's usefulness and they have not.
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>>170114721
Why not using PC then?
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>>170068182
HOW COULD YOU
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>>170114790
I don't one another set of masks that every build can run just because of the free stats thank you
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>>170114790
>>170114853
don't want*
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>>170114508
>socializing
DansGame

>>170113846
I'm more amazed that one of the guys doesn't realize that they've been doing GOTYs for 6 years now with Soulsborne series and it's better to wait for the GOTY edition.
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>>170114790
Armor will never be good because there's no player input to make it better.
Rolls are good because the player decides when and how their effect happens so you want to make them as best as you can be having low weight. Armor is for losers who can't into dodging
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>>170114812
>not browsing whilst comfy in bed
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>>170115174
>not having a laptop and a PC
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>>170115060
You make it sound like dodging in this game is something hard to do.

They even introduced 2 rings made for retards who can't press a panic button when in danger.
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>>170114853
>>170115010
Never said anything about that. I was implying that they have had a few games to tune up the resistances that heavy armor gives to the player, and they kind of haven't. Armor in DS3 might as well be made of paper, it is useless except for fashion or maybe bleed, frost and curse resistances.

>>170115060
I kind of agree but still think having massive armour should be more effective than it is right now.
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>PCucks shitposting offtopic and one is a mobileposter
Can a mod or a janitor please remove these cancers?
>>170115243
>>170115174
>>170115048
>>170114508
>>170113846
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>>170115243
>not having all this and a smart phone
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>>170115273
>2 rings

What

>implying I'm talking about only one game
>implying there is ever a time dodging takes less effort than tanking
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>Can a mod or a janitor please remove these cancers?
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>>170115374
I was commenting perfectly on-topic about the Soulsborne GOTY editions.
>Pcuck
Off yourself,kid.
I have a ps4.
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>>170115432
The carthus rings my man.

And no, but you can't tank for shit in DS3 so you resort to your infinite rolling capabilities making it as easier as just holding a greatshield in previous games.
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>>170111264
Good bye.
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>>170115243
You must be out of your mind if you think a laptop and a smartphone can be used interchangably with regards to comfyness. With a phone you can lye down and curl up on your side. Can't do that with a laptop.
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>>170111820
does the codex ashes of ariandel work with steam dark souls 3
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corn or korn?
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>>170115641
>not even knowing milkring doesn't add i-frames and is a worse hunter ring

Shitter detected
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>>170115641
honestly thought you were talking about the dwgr
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>>170115902
you do realize that carthus milkring is really useful in pvp right?

i know that it doesn't add any i-frames my dude
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>>170115692
Souls on Switch when?
I can't achieve maximum comfyness before I can play Souls directly from bed.
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>>170115545
>>170115476
kys kiddos
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>>170116085
How so, though? It's not like it breaks lock-on
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Fuck it, Im going to reset my character and do a stealth sneaky beaky like build for invasions only.
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>>170116085
>milkring useful in PvP
As said, shitter detected, the effect is very minimal
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>>170115641
>DS 3 introduced Milkring style rolls
Nice, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Simpleton's Ring, dumbass.
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So I just realised something obvious but big.

When the first flame appears, it does so as a great pool of flame deep within an archtree.

When we see the first flame in DS1 and 2, it's instead a bonfire. In DS1 we see it as the kiln, a large structure complete with a huge ringed wall on the edges of the place.

Bonfires are made with a special coiled sword and a dead person. They're literally the bones of a person hosting a flame that is connected to other bonfires by an intricate network

Now we can use bonfires to channel souls into strength and level up, as well as offer humanity to reverse hollowing and make the flame bigger (providing more estus). This shows humanity has a special characteristic that makes it special compared with the souls of other creatures including the gods race like ornstein.

Ergo, when Gwyn linked the fire he must have killed someone and thrust a coiled sword into their bones in order to concentrate the flame in one place so that he could easily become fuel for it.

But why didn't he just jump into the flames if he was to be fuel? And who was the person who was killed to create the first bonfire?

I think the ringed city may mention this. You can see the kiln is surrounded by a wall in a ring like shape and is delving into the dark soul and the furtive pymies.

Whilst I want to believe originally Manus was intended to be the furtive pygmy, the idea that Gwyn killed him and used him to form the bonfire explains the special lonk humanity has with the flame and why the bonfires react so favourably to them. Despite splitting his dark soul with other hollows to form humanity, he'd still have the greatest chunk of it ala Gwyns lord soul.

What do you guys think?
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>>170116857
Wrong.
What's with PCucks and insanely fucking retarded lore shit.
>bonfires have human bones in it
No shit retard, the games states it
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>>170117060
Then could you suggest why the first flame is contained in a bonfire when we see it as simply wild flames in the intro? And who could the person(s) be that are the bones of the first flames bonfire?

It's easy to say somethings retarded and hey that's fair enough. But at least point out where and/or offer an alternative view.
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>>170116857
Japanese people usually come up with amazing plots but in this case it's ambiguous as fugggg. Why do non-humans drop humanity if they're not humans?
What's this shit about fires and bonfires and what fuels those flames?
Why do "gods" die?
This reminds me of anime/manga shitfests. It's probably not supposed to make sense because mystery feels better.
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>>170116857
>Ergo, when Gwyn linked the fire he must have killed someone and thrust a coiled sword into their bones in order to concentrate the flame in one place so that he could easily become fuel for it.

Honestly I completely attribute the appearance of the First Flame in Dark Souls 1 to it being just an instance of the developers taking liberties with the lore for the sake of having the Very Important Fire you have to link to save the world looking just like the very same bonfires you've been seeking refuge near throughout the whole game. They even make that more apparently by having the Soul of Cinder in 3 be sitting by the bonfire in the same position that the player character generally does.
That said, this idea would mean that the bonfire-like appearance and the existence of the Coiled Sword near the first flame have no in-universe significance, which would be a bummer for a lot of people.

>>170117645
Just because you've appointed yourself to be a god that doesn't mean you're that much more complicated to kill than normal people. There is no true divinity in the setting apart from the First Flame itself. Faith just works by believing really hard in the power of the tale you're drawing from, which is why Londor miracles are a thing.
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Dear God, I just noticed the Bone King robes on my female character show just the slightest bit of underboob.
This is too much for me.
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>>170118064
Show us those undead knockers
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>>170117320
Do you even play the games faggot? fucking pay attention retard and stop with these asinine shits
>a game mechanic with already stated lore details must be this really retarded shit that was already explained on its own
seriously kill yourself PCuck
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>>170118064
Did you know that the Smelter Armor has complete underboob exposure, and is just one square patch of chainmail from an exposed breast?

Or that the Imperious Armor has a small cleavage window that, due to its positioning, can give you a really good view inside?
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>>170117645
>>170117956
That's a possibility yeah. I don't mind if they were to leave this ambigous if only DS1 existed but seeing as we got 2 sequels and dlc for each of them I'd like them to dive in deeper.

>>170118226
There's no need for the hostility friend, I am simply asking for you to explain your point of view. You're not obligated to do so but a response like this is unnecessary.
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Does the undead hunter charm block Friede's healing during the Ariandel sequence? If so it would make my life a whole lot easier.
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>>170118226
Name calling so a sign of console peasantry
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>>170118370
Now here's an anon who knows his undead titties.
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>>170118612
No keep your retarded dipshit ideas out of here we had enough retards sprewing insanely stupid lore ideas here faggot kill yourself
>>170118882
whining like a little faggot is so a sign of PatheticChildren
gonna make a petition PCuck?
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>>170118843
Considering it's a miracle and not an estus flask I doubt it does. Why are you having trouble with the second phase anyway?
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>>170103651
>DaS
Great Lord Greatsword
>DaS2
Yorgh's spear
>DaS3
Onyx Blade
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>>170103651
>DaS
Zweihander

>DaS2
Claymore

>DaS3
Barbed Straight Sword
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>>170109871
1's Dragonoid was fine aside from the neck, at the very least it looked most like a dragon. I wish they just kept that throughout.
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>>170118136
It's deliciously subtle.
>>170118370
I did know about Smelter's, but not the Imperious Set.
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>>170103651
DaS: Black Knight Sword
DaS2: Red Iron Twinblade
DaS3: Black Knight Greatsword
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I can't see the weapons my region used to use in the 16th century in these games.
Where's my cultural representation?
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Man, binoculars were great in DaS2, so much fun combining them with lightning spears
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>>170119927
Time is convoluted and the lands are transitory.
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>>170120018
>skyrim weapons
*vomits*
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>>170120056
No dark souls is set in the 16th century like all the other medieval games.
>>
>Finding a cheater every 3 matches
PC gaming is so great
>>
Fun build Ideas for DS2? Ive done quality with mainly large weapons, pyro/hexer, velstadt cosplay, pure faith, and lance builds. Looking for something fresh. Maybe a poison troll or something based around daggers. Anything viable in that area? I think crossbows are fun too.
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>>170120275
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Ok boys its fashion time
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>>170120308
>playing on the PC
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>>170120487
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>>170120374
Pure attunement
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>>170120674
Top tier fashion my dude
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>>170103651

DaS: Reinforced Club/Demon Greathammer
DaS2: Shadow Dagger? I only made two characters on it years ago, before the DLC came out
BB: MLGS, Steak Dinner
DaS3: Twin Prince Greatsword/Onyx Blade. It's hard to say, because the Black Knight weapons outclass just about everything else I really like.
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>>170119082
I get distracted by one or the other and I try to retain my estus for the last phase, so her healing just prolongs a fight I want over sooner rather than later.
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>>170120487
I fucking love the Deserter armour
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Will they drop more info about the DLC? I cant wait anylonger
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>>170103651
DaS: Claymore
DaS2: Craftsman's Hammer
DaS3: Moonlight Greatsword (holy shit lol)
>>
>>170120936
Honestly you're probably better off ignoring Friede's healing completely and just taking it as a chance to focus on Father Ariandel without having to constantly worry about wether or not there's explosive ice crawling under your feet. Whatever damage you inflict on him will easily compensate for the healing and more.
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>>170121068
A more historically accurate weapon with this look and it would be top F A S H I O N
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So I was thinking of making a Giant Dad build in DS1, whats the best weapon to use for the early game? I like the zwiehander but its a bit slow for pve
>>
>>170121408
>zwiehander but its a bit slow for pve
It isn't, just smash the enemies to the ground, you have great reach.

If really want another weapon:
>gravelord sword
>any black knight weapon
>quelaag sword
>any lightning weapon
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Oh man, going through old videos from back when the DLC for 2 was announced is hilarious.
All the people calling it a horrible cashgrab, saying FROM has sold out, that it's obviously shitty cut content unlike the Artorias DLC (really), that they only care about money and won't fix the game's problems, that the series is dead and it's time to move on, and even how FROM originally said the game was going to be a complete experience from day one but obviously lied.
It's hilarious. The exact same arguments have been going on for two fucking years now.
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when is From's engine gonna get boob sliders & physics
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>>170121892
they will, but only for hollows
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>>170121892
when Memezaki says so my dude
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Is there a kind anon that could help me mule some items over to another acc? Im at farron perim bonfire, pass dsg
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>>170121892
It'll be a patch released alongside the Ringed City.
The physics will be used exclusively for the boss fight against Gwynevere.
She'll be in hollow form and the breasts will be completely saggy.
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>>170121615
Heres the thing, even though I did a SL1 run I'm still not great at the game and I died to gargs like a shitter because I'm not used to the way the weapon works. I guess I could get the ravelord sword
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Why do we kill Gwyn is he's a good guy?
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>>170122048
booting up my fridge as we speak
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>>170122256
Well, this early in the game most weapons are worse than the drake sword. Ravelord has 300+base damage, its great. I also recommend to get stone set as fast as possible, you need poise for slow weapons
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>Host has 2 phantom allies
>you kill both of them
>Host starts to run away and play defensively, spamming estus while he tries to summon more phantoms
>More phantoms are summoned
>You kill them again because people start to play like retards when they have the advantage
>Host runs away again while waiting for more phantoms
>You lose your patience and becomes more aggressive
>He lands a lag hit and staggers you with a greatsword to death
It should be a limit to how many phantoms the host can summon per invasion
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>>170122848
Welcome to ten months ago.
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>>170122848
Yeah and it should be zero
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>>170123461
That would be bad because co-op and 2x2 is fun sometimes.
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>>170123461
>>170122848
What if you could still summon infinite phantoms, but every phantom that dies fully replenishes the invader's estus and gives them a stacking buff?

I know it'd never happen, but holy shit it'd make my dick hard.
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>>170122848
>>170123461
>>170123631
Stop right now, invasions are not meant to be fair. Go play in the arena, shitters
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>>170122848
You're just making excuses for your inability to secure a kill on the host.
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>>170123819
I do play in the arena
It's fun to fight against people who won't run away until they out number you 4-1.
Just take your fuckin L and move on you kindle bitch.
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>>170123819
Yeah, in Demon's Souls you had half of your health for a reason, that's already unfair. Hosts have 15 estus and can summon countless phantoms now, if the host is a tryhard you can't win unless you are 10 times better than him.
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>>170123819
>invasions are not meant to be fair
that's fine but they went way overboard stacking things in favor of the host

it's impossible to win unless you can one shot them
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>>170123819
Shitposter detected. Being invaded used to erase all summon signs until the invader was gone. You dealt with him with whatever you had on hand and that was that.
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>>170124801
It wasn't intentional, that's because the older game's netcode is fucking awful that any connection will usually make the others fail. If you get invaded but the invader takes too long you can summon help in any of the games if there are signs.
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>>170123819
Actually in the beginning invasions were meant to be a terrible thing for hosts. Miyazaki most likely knew that most wouldn't survive the first time they were invaded by a red phantom.
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PC FC????
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>>170125498
B
F
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>>170125531

Where?
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New
>>170125705
>>170125705
>>170125705
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>>170125617
My house
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>>170123976
Maybe, but it's hard to kill the host when he play defensively, spam estus, hides behind phantoms and every enemy in the map was already killed.
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>>170125091
>In the beginning
They still are. It's just that the perspective of a new player is not something you're faced with around here. There are invaders out there (I'm one of them) that get lone hosts that are clueless; it's obviously not as common now but it's still there.
Feel free to check anywhere where you'd actually get the perspective of a completely new player, there are plenty of people that complain about how some invader came and demolished them in seconds and want to know how to turn off invasions. Seriously, it's interesting to see their perspective. A lot of times new players to 3 argue it's inherently unfair that they can't play with their friends for help or fun without running the risk of invasions.
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>>170125970
>A lot of times new players to 3 argue it's inherently unfair that they can't play with their friends for help or fun without running the risk of invasions.
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>>170125970
co-op to clear PvE content in Dark Souls is already disgusting by itself, but it's even worse when the host is so much of a pussy that he doesn't even want to risk invasions.

I wonder what the fuck people with Carebear mentality are doing on Dark Souls anyway
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HOLY FUCK IT'S ALREADY MARCH 5TH LOL

TWENTY MORE DAYS BOYS
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>>170108102
Edgy faggot. 3's PVE is the best in the series.
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