/fhg/ - For Honor General

Buff PK.

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LAWDADDY'S LEDGIES

>>169891043
Not yet. We have to see how her winrate shakes out after her bugfix before we see if she legitimately needs buffs or not.

Nth for nerf OP Valk

>>169891104
Please stop.

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Even though nobody asked me about my opinion and nobody cares, this is how I would fix the gear stats. Sorry for bad english.

1. Move default stat amount to the middle of the line and reduce max possible gain and increase max possible loss. In other words, equal stat gains and loses. No more giant pluses with minor minuses.

2. Make only one stat go up, one go down and one always remain on default. No more two buffed stats.

3. Move revenge gain by defence on a same item as revenge gain by injury.


This would result in characters having more or less the same overal power as they were on lvl 1. As the gear would no longer give you as much straight advantage I would also enable an option to personaly turn the gear stats off for people who want to keep their stats on default amounts.

Thoughts?

ME PEACEKEEPER

ME UNGA MASH

OPPONENT NOT BUNGA BLOCK

ME SKILL

>>169891118
She needs a buff.

Gilgamesh Warden sword looks like shit tbqh

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>>169891223
Shower me in your salty fluids!~

>>169891118
Lmao
>please buff this top-tier hero instead of Berserker, Raider, Lawbringer, etc
PK mains are the trash of this game

>Suddenly everyone is Valk and using the same attack combo over and over.

What the fuck happened to this game.

>>169891289
Please stop.

>>169891326
What combo?

>opponent goes for a guardbreak
>counter
>he tries doing it again 3 more times consecutively leaving him wide open
I don't know why this seems to be such a popular thing. If it didn't work for you the first time it's probably not going to work if you keep spamming it.

>>169891253
Lol

>>169891326
WELCOME TO CLOSED ALPHA FOR HONOR

WE TOLD YOU SHE WAS CANCER

>>169891326
>Using the most optimal combo on a hero
>It's completely reactable

yep

>>169891326
I wreck Valks. The only good move they have is that overhead that's really hard to deflect. Their GBs are bullshit though, because they can sweep your legs and you're fucked on a heavy.

Still, even with all that, I've consistently beaten them.

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>>169891005
For the people who missed it (because a lot of these complaints are repeating like >>169891314), here are the summarized minutes from the dev stream a couple days ago.

>>169891293
don't get hit by 2 lights in a row

>>169890893
that's just all wrong

How do I turn matchmaking off for Dominion Vs AI?

Trying to do the "kill 300 minions" order, but there's 3 other people in every game camping at the spawn.

I want to play with me + 3 bots V 4 bots. I know there's a way to do it, but I can't work it out.

I've been disconnected every single game I try to play this morning. I have open NAT. This game is garbage

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>>169891280
It does.

So do most Warden Ornaments, pic related.

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Any good Kensei players to watch on Twitch?

>>169891546
>not repping house arryn

When you parry an attack, can you just hit guard break, or do you have to dash forward and guard break them?

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>>169891280
agreed

>>169891513
>don't get hit by 2 lights in a row
you can start it after one attack
i sure as fuck had that happen to me multiple times

>>169891698
Just GB
tho it depends on who you parry
nobushi, some attacks on raider/kensei/law pushes them too far for a direct gb
bes approach is dash + light or something else

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I think a lot of bitching about Valkyrie is because people don't know the matchup yet. This is understandable, because before the buff, she was almost nonexistant. Now that she's popping up all over the place, more people are going to learn the matchup and figure out what makes her tick.

>>169891698
Depends on the range of the enemy. Against Nobushi and Kensei, you'll probably be out of range.

>>169891214
Shield / Pommel
>Revenge Gain Defence, Revenge Gain Injury, Throw Distance
Handle
>Revenge Attack, Revenge Defence, Revenge Duration

Move Feat Cooldown to the Helmet and it's all pretty well balanced

>>169891614
i will stream for you personally
after i get gud

>>169891698

It depends on how far away you are usually

But the game is retarded and sometimes you push it without dashing and you pretty much teleport to them

>>169891801
only if she whips the 1st
her combo is light + light + sweep

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>tfw love bloomed on the battlefield

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I can't wait to get to renown 7.
post your best looking characters

>playing brawl
>teammate complements my fashion
>different teammate talks about how I destroyed him a day ago and is glad he got paired up with me
Some nice feels for a change

>>169891526
Anyone know an answer to this?

>>169891840
What's Nobushi's overall gameplan? I'm trying to learn her, but either I run out of stamina, or I get bullied in close range. I'm not sure how you're supposed to keep people out with her relatively slow attacks.

>>169891801
Her second light attack goes into the sweep. So she can miss the first.

>>169891907
definitely wasn't an attack before that one light hit
and then straight into sweep.

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rate my IW conq
I'm too lazy to try and make their emblem in the editor

>>169891979
As with all classes, you want to focus on your faster attacks. Side dodge heavies and any direction dodge lights. Any time you get a hit on a light, try to finish the chain by switching locations because the full light chain does quite a bit; or finish the chain with GB for a stam drain kick. If they're close and you get a parry, you'll be close enough for a GB into top heavy, but you've probably noticed your heavies do less than 1/3rd of the lowest HP chars. Use your free dodge on a block to keep your distance against opponents who try to stay close.

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so i think ive broke BOTH my controllers now because of fucking peace keepers and how they need to be removed from the fucking game.

if you play peacekeeper you need to fucking kill yourself.

im so fucking serious, im not memeing or joking at all. end your fucking life you fucking faggot.

>>169892007
for some reason it's not on the moveset and i wanted to tell you go read it
but i tested it, and it's definitively 2xlights + s+heavy
impossible with only one light

any word on when server goes back up?

>>169892361
i know its not
but it happened
it has to link from SOMETHING > light > sweep

>Fighting an Orochi in Skirmish
>arrows are fired as he pulls out the bow
>attacks hit as he starts them
>say "I wish the game wouldn't match me with people connecting from the ISS"
>starts shit-talking and calling me salty
nah but seriously how does that happen

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>>169892350
Love you too, cutie pie.

>>169891289
Peacekeeper does not require skill, because she doesn't require, parrying, deflecting, feinting, timing attacks or even blocking skill.

>>169891707
Nigger give me my sword back.
>>169891546

>>169892465
works with heavy + light
but not any single attack, it must be a chain

- Remove PK
- Make 1v1/2v2 a best of 10
- Allow one ban per team (a team can use their ban to undo an enemy's. In 2v2 the person who bans is chosen randomly)
- Remove PK
- Frequent leaving results in Dota-style LPQ (shitters who constantly leave get matched with other shitters who constantly leave). Shitters here need to win games in order to leave, further leaves are a ban.
- FUCKING TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE HOSTING GAMES. GIVE THEM AN ICON. IF I'M DEAD IN 2V2 I WANT TO TAB OUT AND SHITPOST WITHOUT CRASHING THE GAME FOR EVERYONE
- Consistent stance-switching speed among all heroes
- Blocking costs a small amount of stamina
- Unblockable attacks resulting from a counter or chain now count as a block if parried. The idea is unblockables in this context are a reward and while they should be avoidable, punishing for them is a little counterproductive.
- Ban PK mains
- Remove most hazards on maps. Give Lawbringer and Raider some benefits for slamming people into walls as compensation
- Add a separate K:D figure that doesn't include environmental kills
- Remove PK
- Lightly rework Raider, Kensei, Berserker and Conqueror to give them more unique kits

Can someone explain how counting frames in a game with not hard-coded frames per second works? I can understand it in older 2d fighting games, where the frames are hard-coded into the game, but not in a game like this? Wouldn't the frames change in accordance to hardware, graphics settings, and monitor frequency?

Also, why are we using this archaic methodology? Why can't someone record the game in FRAPS, upload the video to Vegas Movie Pro, and count in seconds the time it takes for the indicator to light up to the point of impact? And then measure in second the time it takes to switch guards, and note the difference?

>>169892363
i dont think they even know that shit is down, ubisoft being ubisoft...

>>169892558
it wasnt an attack

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The berserker does 3.5 bars of damage on a fallen over enemy. This is roughly 75% of the total health of any character under 5 full bars of health like PK. How is this balanced?

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>>169891913
>Elimination is a serious gamemode

>>169892550
...I have to do all of those things as a PK

>>169892472
retarded region locking

>>169892645
it works with shield charge aka. dash back and hold guard + light then sweep
it's literally an attack chain

>>169892605
Also remove gear, give future heroes for free and use microtransactions to sell cosmetics.

FIX YOUR FUCKING MATCHMAKING UBISOFT

I HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED EVERY SINGLE GAME FOR NO REASON

>>169892712
we were doing the same shit to the zerker as he fought before the tauntspam

>>169892508
literally kill yourself. i hope you fucking die in real life you cunt nigger faggot

>>169892465
>>169892465

you can get the sweep after two lights, or a heavy then a light, even if the first misses

OR you can get it directly out of a shieldbash or headbutt

or sheildbash -> light -> sweep

but that's it

>>169892659
>getting GBd by a berserker while out of stam

>>169892659

Because it can be stopped by just either blocking, parrying, dodging or GB-Countering. It also requires you to either hit, or miss a swing first, then do one of the most telegraphed overheads in the game.

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Lmao what .
I didn't know the oroichi says NANI
ahahahahahahah

>>169892838
What part of "fallen over" do you not understand?

>>169892778
>future heroes for free

They are. You'll be able to use steel to buy them.

>>169892834
literally took me less than 5 minutes to test everything out
i have no idea why people refuse to learn or try anything for themselves

>>169892659
dude i dont even play zerker and I'm willing to say that if he gets nerfed he'll be completely non-viable

>>169892550
If a PK doesn't need to feint or deflect or parry against you, YOU ARE FUCKING SHIT

>>169892895
I meant allow the current level of customization for an unlocked hero then sell ornate-looking gear for jewgolds.

>>169891901
I may as well stream for you then.

>>169892917
Most are playing this as if it was Dark Souls and not a fighting game.

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>>169892659
>>169892837

>>169892892

Then don't fall over? Hence why I say that you should tech the GB, instead of just standing there like a retard, like that Warlord did.

>>169892508
At least get some new fanart to post, the same three pictures of her getting reposted in every thread with similar responses is just lazy. Or is that pk players are not only too lazy to git gud, but also are they too lazy to produce anything but shitposts?

I wish Nobushi had the AoE debuff that the assassins have. Much preferable to Fire trap.
>AI Bot Nobushi can have it

>>169892605
The LPQ idea and the rework of certain classes are good
The host thing is irrelevant for most, but why not
The rest of that list is awful.

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>>169893061
I'm actually going to finally force myself to learn how to draw because I love PK that much.

i always imagined the girls of for honor like this:
>nobushi
always helpful and well manered
strong smell of perfume
>vlak
smells of animals
but is cool with everything
>pk
smells of blood and diseases
always dirty
is a total maniac

>>169893039
That's pretty ridic damage, but who doesn't expect a GB while exhausted?

>>169893146
Be sure to post your sonichu tier """""art""""" here so we can all have a hearty kek at your miserable attempts.

>>169893350
Nigger I'd never share my art until I considered it decent.

>>169893254
Momoji cutest girl in campaign.

Who are the best optional-girls?

>>169893383
now apply that attitude to your posting

Whats the best build for warden?
high damage, quick stamina regen, revenge build?

>>169893143
>Consistent stance-switching speed among all heroes
you honestly think this is a bad idea ? you are fucking retarded...

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5 times in a row now
ppl have rq on me
i can't say no to all these free wins tho

>>169892659

Because it's literally the only thing berserkers got going for them, aside from feinting and half-decent dodge-lights. They have no way in on people outside of deflections and guard breaks, so, if you get caught by it, they need to be rewarded for it.

Warlords shit on Berserkers for free, so I don't know how that Warlord got into that situation right there. I mean for shit sake, Warlord can out-trade the Berserker using the super armor on his heavies if he so pleases and he'll win unless he gets hit by the overhead.

>>169892558
Oh my god it works, I thought sweep could only come off the various bashes. This changes everything! Truly Valkyrie is an endless mystery.

>>169892614
>>169892614
>>169892614
Can you help?

>>169893383
Then why do you play when you aren't decent at the game?

>Create one class that you want to see in future DLC.

>HARD MODE: Create an entire new faction.

>>169892614
Frames are just what everyone is used to.
I agree we should do it in ms. Even the developers do it in ms.
People will eventually come around to using ms.

>>169893490
Revenge to everyone. Max revenge. Always.

>>169893779
but what about the fags that just run away once revenge is active?

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>>169891475
>raider&lawbringer has shit 1v1 win rate
>lol but their 4v4 win rate is high
getting carried IS NOT BALACED
RELYING ON EVIO KILLS IS NOT FUN

FUCKING DEVS

S TIER
>Warden
>PK
A TIER
>Warlord
>Conqueror
>Roach
>B TIER
>Kensei
>Berserker
>Valkyrie
>C TIER
-rest

>>169893901
wrong

>>169893578
can someone help me understand the mindset here?
why would you ever quit out of a game?
if someone crushes you 3-0, at worst it's over quickly and at best you learn something from it.

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That feel when you get gud at conquering

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Just did pic related
any suggestions?

>>169893901
Looking at tournament placements and meta actually it is:

>S tier:
Conq, Warlord, PK

>A tier:
Warden, Shugoki

>B tier:
Orochi, Nobushi

>C tier:
Rest

>>169892961
The only thing you can directly buy with cash is steel packages. I wouldn't want cash-exclusive cosmetics, not when there's an in-game currency that can be earned by playing.

>>169894021
>no RAWRAW
You're playing Conq wrong anon

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I spit on any Shugoki player. You're all fucking frauds like Peacekeeper players.

>>169892917
cause that happened yesterday and im at work

>>169894080
>meaningless (((tournament))) held by Redditors and streamcucks
>defining the meta
LMAO

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Why are our player numbers falling so sharply?
Why did our twitch streamer popularity take such a drop?
I just don't understand it!

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>>169891915
I am a beautiful conquerino

>>169894196
It is the competitive scene the game currently has. They are still the highest level of play we can currently observe. If you think you can organize a better one or win one, go ahead.

>>169894196
So? Who cares if it's hosted by Redditors and streamers?

>>169894219
Looking good Conqbro

Shield is a bit much. Are there less busy options for rep 3 shields?

>>169894196
guarantee you'd get smoked by anybody in the top 8 of those tournies

>>169894217
>all matchmaking is p2p
>servers only exist to handle logins and contain account information
>servers still crash and burn
Ubishit's incompetence really knows no bounds.

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>>169893663
New faction - Romans.
Classes - centurion (the one on the season pass artwork), triarii, gladiator, some auxiliary dude with an axe or maybe something exotic.

>>169894060
Fantastic

We need more PK lusting after stoic LB

>>169894325
They have exactly as much authority on the game as players right in this general. They aren't an official competitive scene, it's a bunch of random people from r/ForHonor and wannabe eceleb Twitch nobodies. Talk to me when there's an actual competitive circuit.

>>169894080
>valk not in S tier or at least A tier

out of date tier list

>>169894219
Are there more variants of the helm you have/basic helm? The fedoras look fucking gay but they have some great face plates. I just want the standard helm with the face plates of the hats. They would look so brutal.

>>169894429
>not a gladiator class with a net and trident

>>169894483
Nope. The only rep 3 variation of the standard bucket helm is the one right in that pic. The rest are fedoras.

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>>169891979
Poke people in the face, repeatedly, on reaction.
A few pokes piss most players off and make them aggressive, which you just shut down with your backstep poke.

>>169894019
I'd gladly rematch anyone who beats me 3-0, because I'm clearly not doing something right.

>>169894441
They are the same people that would take part in an official tournament. A different organizer will not magic better contestants into existence. If you think you are good enough to beat them, go ahead and grab some free money. If not - keep being a tough guy on 4chins.

>>169894460
There hasnt been a tournament since Valk buffs.

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>>169893254
Nobushi is a village guardian, albeit with esoteric origins. She's genteel, and she's good with children and elderly.
Valkyrie is devoted, since she has to fight on behalf of others who couldn't die in battle. She's a warrior maiden, so she's difficult to control, but you won't find a better companion if she chooses you to receive her favor.
Peacekeeper is quiet and reserved, fitting for her position as a state/church assassin. She's not very sociable and tries to avoid being attached to anything, which is understandable given her precarious and secretive position. Still, she's not without some charm.

>>169894060
'Law enforcer' should be Law Bringer, Obviously.

>>169894625
One or two small-scale tournaments featuring Redditors and twitch nobodies does not equal a rock solid meta that should be used as a metric for balance.

>>169893405
Momiji > Runa > Mercy

>>169894601
Fucking why, so much wasted potential. I hate those hats so fucking much

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>>169893663
since the knight is not fighting on a horse
>polish hussars using a saber

put him together with the knights

>>169894736
Being a tough guy on 4chan it is. Stay delusional about your expertise and "skill level". As irrelevant as you claim those tournaments and people to be, they are still far more relevant than whatever you can come up with.

is shield bash into leg sweep a true combo for valk?

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>>169893898
>enviro kills not fun
lmao over here

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See it that way, Raider is pretty fun in 4v4 modes
That's 2/3 of the game

>>169893885
You use Revenge as a reversal and then pancake them while they're knocked down on the ground. Go for max damage and minimum duration so you can do this often.

>>169894106
You should already know Shuggie's gameplan by now. He wants you to trade with him, he wants to control space. He knows to be careful with his Oni's Embrace grab, since it not only leaves him open if he misses but is also the only move in the game that does backlash damage to him if he screws up. Don't get baited, and don't let him catch you.

>>169895004
>Go for max damage and minimum duration so you can do this often.
got it
4v4 here I come

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>>169894483
>>169894783
I don't mind the hats at all but it would have been really easy for them to make rep 3 variants that were just the helms with no hats, would've added tons of variety with very little effort. I don't even dislike the hats, my problem is just that Conq always has his head down so people in game can only really see your hat (which all look the fucking same).

Pic related would look sick as fuck without the hat.

>>169894936
he's right though, considering the balance patch since the tournament it can no longer be considered a completely relevant measure of class tiers

>>169894936
This.

You're an idiot doucher.

>>169894936
Nice strawman, fuckwit. I'm not saying my opinion is worth more, I never did. I'm saying making a tier list based off of a few small-scale tournaments is asinine. Suddenly Conq jumped to S tier and Warden fell down to A tier based on ONE (1) tournament. A single small tournament is not enough data to determine a meta or a tier list, and blindly following what a bunch of Twitch """"""""""""""pros"""""""""""""" say is cuck behavior when many players right in this general are just as skilled as these people.

>>169892869
All samurai say nani when they get gb'd.

>>169895208
we already had 3 if not more tournaments
and the results repeated

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>>169895196
>doucher
Begging you to go back to Facebook and CoD, dudebro faggot.

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>salt from playing fun top tier characters

Its too good. ITS TOO GOOD

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>>169895317

Just had to play two Dominion matches in a row against a noskill ShitLord who ONLY EVER sprinted around the ledges fishing for the unblockable shove.

That retard almost gave me an aneurysm. How do you deal with these faggots?

Whoever at Ubi who designed that class should kill himself. And if he doesn't I'll help him, just give me the name.

>>169895135
#2 looks like the top of a lighter.

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>>169894648
>Draw Nobushi
>Make her white

>>169895330
PK takes no skill. It's a handicap character for fake wins.

How do you block PK's triple stab after she gbs you?

Seems fun to do

>>169895151
The balance patch addressing the tournament play are coming in the future, this one was just sorting some of the main issues out such as bugs and the extreme unviability of Valk (36% win rate when they are aiming for 45-55% bracket)

Warlord and Conq nerfs and LB and Raider buffs are coming soon, as well as a general fix to the defensive meta in high-tier play.

>>169895208
>Suddenly Conq jumped to S tier and Warden fell down to A tier based on ONE (1) tournament.

There were 4 just in the past week. Same results as per usual, same top 3 S-tier classes in the finals and grand finals. You are talking out of your ass again.

>>169895430
Only white people are attractive.

Nips know this, which is why every anime character is white even though they're Japanese.

>>169895418
Fuck off and go kill his team?

>>169895507
And all the same players play in these small tournaments. Disparity in player skill may be inflating certain characters that aren't actually top tier. Like in Overwatch when everyone thought Genji was incredible because that fat fuck Seagull was godlike with him when he's mid tier at best.

>>169895449
You don't. If you didn't tech the guardbreak, you can't stop the stabs. At that point, the Peacekeeper has to fuck up the inputs for you to avoid damage.

>>169895449
You don't? It's combo'd into the GB; they just have to not fuck up their inputs, which is actually pretty easy to do.

>>169895330
just don't cry too much when your crutch inevitably gets kicked out from under you

>>169895648
They were breaking already and he was the last on their team.

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>>169894968
If I was one of those oranges I would have still found that hilarious.

>>169895673
The finalists were not the same and some of the tournaments were for different regions.

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HOW TO: Get legendary invader and Glory Hound done in one match of Dominion.

If you were in this game, Thanks!

>>169895734
>>169895740
Uh then what is the "DING" block sound when you input the button correctly?

>no damage
>block sound

Im sure you can

>>169893898
Like it or not, it's one of the only things they got going for them. Raider and Lawbringer are among the best gankers in 4v4, hence their high winrate in those modes.

so I just started playing conq and it seems like half the time I parry I instantly follow up and get a hit but the other half I have to manually do one of my options, what's causing this auto-followup on parrying?

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>>169895769
>that emblem

>>169895810
What are you talking about?

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>>169895741
You know what happens when one crutch gets gutted?

Another crutch takes its place.

>>169895535
How come I find Asians attractive then

Checkmate Anon

>>169895962
>he needs to use crutches to win
I wonder what it's like to be this bad

>>169893663
Lords of Zimbabwe Faction

Beast Tamer:
Spear and Bolas main weapon
Instead of Guard break, he throws the Bolas at the enemy when GB button is pressed, the longer you hold, the faster the Bolas travel, enemies can dodge it, if they get hit, they are knocked down for 1 second and stamina drained. (If too close, will just GB the enemy instead)

Main Traits would be
Bola Dodge - Dodging in the direction of an incoming attack wraps the bolas around the enemy's weapons, disarming them for 1 second (same as if the enemy had been parried)

Nutrient Deficiency - living in the heart of Africa isnt easy, lack of nourishment makes you too weak to be able to effectively parry enemy's heavy blows (when you parry one, you wont have a window to hit them back)

Spear proficiency - Your light attacks are lightning fast, but drain a lot of stamina (you will always attack before an enemy, but at high stamina cost, so you cant spam it)

too lazy to think of feats/more classes for now...and yes i know bolas are not from Africa but i decided to add them for w/e reason.

>>169895810
how could you block the stabs during a guardbreak? your weapon is down and she stabs you in the side. you can't do shit untill she A. kicks you away B. gets the 3rd stab C. fucks up the inpupts and you get pushed away and back into neutral

>>169895974
Why do some guys find men attractive? Mental illness.

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Conq is the most manliest hero out there .

>>169896205
And the most hated

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>>169891915
>tfw to intelligent for fashion

>>169896164
damn that's sharp, try not to cut yourself boy!

>>169892957
Just mashing light attack and zone attack with randomly selected directions will guarentee that they will kill you if they spam it hard enough

It is literally impossible to block -> guard break and even if you manage to parry, they can just start spamming it again and attack you before you can attack back because their animation is too quick.

>>169896227
>not PK, Warlord or Orochi
Kek

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>>169896026
>Nutrient Deficiency

>>169896205

I'm about to pick him up. The main reason I didn't was because I hated the whole "DONT GIVE A FUCK IF I CUT MY ARM BLEEDING"

Just found out certain arm pieces actually cover that shit up and give him some nice gauntlets.

>>169896227
That would be PK
Conq is balanced

>>169896002
>Being good at a game nobody cares about

Why though?

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>>169896205
He is the blackest knight, being an ex-convict. All the other knights are mad because all the bitches love his BBC.

>>169896331
People want to hate fuck PK and make her their mind broken cum dump

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Bot got us good on his own vs. three of us. Remove kebabs.

>>169896026
>you will always attack before an enemy but you can't spam it

this alone would be the most OP character in the game because of the defensive meta. just never attack

Nobody has a hint of integrity anymore. Life is a sham, we all need to kill ourselves.

>>169896384
I wanna be black conq now. Goddamn sluts riling people up and shit.

>>169893663
'The Brawler'
>Uses a bludgeon mechanic
>Light armored
>Wields a small cudgel
>Mostly fast, short-range attacks
>Average to bad mobility, no hyper-dashing ADHD nonsense
>Side attacks do light damage, overheads are very strong and concuss similar to Lawbringer/Raider/whoever else uses this
>Like Warden, Brawler can get a free second attack with his side lights. He'd choose between this and an overhead light depending on whether he wants to chain or do some damage and leave
>The bludgeon mechanic works as follows; all attacks reduce enemy's stamina by a small amount, the second is an interrupt, the third staggers the enemy leaving them open to side heavy or overhead light, both leading into separate chains I don't feel like working out.
>Defense consists of two mechanics. First, Brawler CANNOT block, has a reflexive stance and bad dashing capabilities. To make up for this, he has a parry window allowing him to smack the enemy's arms with his cudgel. Parrying a light attack will count as a normal parry and give him a counter window for a free light attack. Parrying a heavy attack will also give him the light attack (ie; first step in bludgeon mechanic),
tldr; berserker with low mobility, no blocking but good chains, counters and parries. Replace PK with this hero.
I'm tired, if this is stupid I apologize.

>>169896331
the only people who think conq is balanced are people who A. Main conq and B. aren't very good at playing conq

so git gud son

>>169896426
>integrity
Who needs integrity when you're about to lose? YOU GOTTA WIN!!! YEAH!! WINNING IS ALL THAT MATTERS!

>>169896468

>GAIS CHECK OUT MY CLASS

>IT CAN NEVER BE HURT BECAUSE IT INTERRUPTS EVERYTHING

>BUT IT CANT BLOCK SO ITS BALANCED

Fucking leave.

>>169896468
>Parrying a heavy attack will also give him the light attack (ie; first step in bludgeon mechanic),
I meant give him an unblockable light attack

>>169896306
>enought

>>169895769
disgusting

>change look on my best helmet
>lose access to that helmet's appearance so i can't keep a collection

why

>>169896273
Hi R*ddit

>>169896561
Except he has extremely close range, bad mobility, no blocking, low health and reflexive stances. It's easy to fuck up and a fuck-up is catastrophic.

The idea is very high risk, very high reward. Rebalance if you want, this is just a prototype idea.

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>>169896306
>>169896634
Here you go

>>169896517
Conq is balanced.

>>169896426
>>169896539
>"honor"
>in a VIDEO GAME

lol nerds

>>169896771
thanks

Can you block the second or third light after a PK hits you with the first?

If not, what should you do?

>>169896724
>rebalance if you want
>this is a prototype idea

dude why are you wasting your time with this autistic nonsense? yeah, your ideas are shit, but why would I waste any time "rebalancing" them? There's no balancing one way or another, this is just some shit you imagined up. ubi isn't going to fans for class suggestions. you're essentially writing mechanical fanfic

>>169896771
Thanks.

>>169896327
On what rep you can get the gauntlets

>>169896883
Parry the first one and shit on the PK.

>>169896827
Nobody is talking about honor you blithering retard.

>4v4 with no PK or Valk
>Game is suddenly fun
Hmm

>>169896928
>durr this is shit XDD
>Okay, go make some changes/offer constructive criticism
>no it's shit don't waste my time lmao autism
Commit to an argument or don't start one

>>169896937

Fuck if I know, but I know you get some starting early, they just get more decorated.

S tier:
PK
Warlord
Conqueror

A tier:
Warden

B tier:

C tier:

D tier:

F tier:
Rest

Trash tier:
Raider
LB


Warden might lose to S tiers, but is still pretty much 10-0 vs any F or trash hero when equally skilled. The only thing giving low tiers wins in duels are beating significantly worse players and fighting other low tiers.

>>169896989
If you're so assblasted about certain characters playing a game, why don't you play those same characters?

>>169897076
>Warden might lose to S tiers
Go ahead and explain then.

>>169897076
Your lists are trash tier and so are you

>>169897115
Not him, but everyone isn't some autistif fuck who wants to play the most OP shit.

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>>169897076
>over the course of a week conq slides up to S with no changes because people can't open him up

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I just realized that equipping different helms on my warlord changes the color of his beard.

Anything else I should know?

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Is it ded yet?

>>169897115
>4v4 with no PK or Valk
>Game is suddenly fun
>A connection error has occurred

>>169897187
Then make a better one faggot.

What are the best combos for Kensei? It seems like a very "honest" class that I'd like to get good at.

>>169897358
For what possible purpose, they are just annoying
>>169897386
What does that meme even mean? Oh right, nothing.

>>169897193
It seems way more autistic to me to play a shitty class out of some false sense of honor or integrity, and then complain when they lose to better classes.

Most of your type tend to throw people off of ledges anyway, making you hypocrites too.

>>169897021
I wasn't the guy who initially said it was shit. my first reply to you was when you asked him to rebalance you fanfiction

>>169897417
Kensei has the least gimmicks. He just mindgames: thats his gimmick

>Doing story mode
>Spend half an hour struggling through a level
>Computer crashes on what I assume is the last cutscene
>None of my progress was saved
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>169893898
To be fair, as conq, enviormental kills in 4v4 is all I do, because killing guys fairly is too slow compared to other classes. I just get ganked otherwise.

>>169897478
His gimmicks are unblockables out the ass and instagib revenge attacks

so, do you guys think valk's shield bash can counter warden's vortex? like, as soon as he tries to do his shield bash, just rev up valk's and smash him?

>>169897432
>projecting this hard

Seems like you're upset. I don't like to play "shitty" classes. I main Kensei and play some Zerk, because i like them.

But fighting a Warlord is NEVER a fun thing. And imo it isn't fun to play either.

are servers down?

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Post bringers of the law.

>>169897605
Fighting against Warlord is not fun because you cant open him up same way as other charcs.
Thats the games fault mainly; making defense way too good reward.

>>169895428
Now I just need to pick a good "flame" ornament.

>>169897590
I'm 99% sure Valks shield bash lose to wardens votrex

>>169897567
>unblockables out the ass
>one

Fucking hell m8

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>>169897687

>>169897708
>it's the game fault !

I don't care, i still want to die when i'm fighting those fucks, even if i win. And i won't play this crap because i don't like that kind of playstyle.

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What's the opinion on Brawl? Do you think it's "scrubby" to 2v1 someone? It actually says in the tutorial video that 2v1 is a legitimate tactic to employ, so it's not like it's against the rules or anything.

In my opinion if you want a 1v1 then play a fucking duel.

Most of the time though if my teammate (my brother) tells me he can take a fight then I let him handle it.

I just find it fucking hilarious that I'm getting hate mail for "NOT FIGHTING WITH HONOR!!!!1" against a person who baited towards edges constantly as Raider.

>>169897605
Well good, I'm glad you play classes you like, but they're weak-as-fuck classes. You can't expect to win every game against every class, but you expect it anyway. Either accept that your class is weaker against others (in your case, pretty much all of them), or play the classes that're stronger and more versatile.

Otherwise, get the fuck out of here with your crybaby mangina ass

>>169897919
>haha m8 become cancer like me and play the op classes or just die !!!!!

Are you 14 ? Also if you think that Kensei is weak as fuck, you're probably a scrub.

>>169897862
pretty sleek lawbringer but I ask you this every thread and you never answer, is your emblem meant to be goatse?

>>169898008
Kensei is broken
>LMAO GB-COUNTERS DON'T EXIST AGAINST ME!
Fuck this faggot-ass weeb shit

>>169897908
Same as i.
Their attacks take lots of stamina tho and you have to be super patient with them. I think LB is one of the best counters against Warlord.

>>169897918
I find it retarded people actually get mad about having no "honor". In 2v2s if I kill my guy first then I will let my teammate's fight play out on its own whilst I watch. But if he dies first and I get ganked I don't get mad, I just try and win and then I'll gank them next round, simple.

>>169897918
I generally let them have a fair fight unless they start it first and I don't care about getting 2v1'd

Partly just cause its neat to watch. It feels like it fits the game. They really need some kind of in-game fight club style mode.

>>169897567
>the unblockable is the gimmick
you're lucky if he doesn't cancel it into literally any other attack, the unblockable is easy as hell to parry

>>169897784
He probably plays meme game modes that have feats.

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>>169898094
noh

>>169897076
Warden is fucking S you retard. Literally has no drawbacks

>>169897918
I do it whenever I can.

If my teammate dies first and my enemy doesn't do it though, I feel bad for them and don't do it in the following rounds.

What I hate most are faggots that use revenge they built up in their 1v1 that I honorabry let them finish and then pretend like I'm the dishonorabru one for ganking them in the next round. Like listen here you nigger you don't get to bend the rules to suit you whenever you want you fucking hypocrit

>>169898328
>he believes this

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>>169898095
Stay mad scrublord

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>Getting Wow! Wow! Wow! after killing some LB scrub.
>Don't know what I'm doing to provoke this reaction because I just kill him normally without edgefagging or anything.
>Kill him again and his buddy attacks me while I'm doing the exection.
>Slap his shit silly.
>Wow! Wow! Wow!
>Get a message.
"y do u have no honor"
>Send a message
"why don't you have any chips with that SALT LMAO"

>Stomp orochi player 3-0
>"Go again"
>He switches to Nobushi
>2-0, round 3
>We're both low health, tags me with fatal poison
>Hesitates long enough before turning around to run away that I slap him in the back and kill him
>"FFS"
>Leaves

How retarded do you have to be to not even be able to do hit and run poison right?

>>169897567
His "gimmick" if it can be called that is his ability to move between states easily. He has the unblockable cancel and can feint into dash attacks. It's really not a gimmick class, just a solid all rounder. Lots of pokes and range with some real punisher moves.

>>169897862
>>169898229
now that i recognize it i have further appreciation towards you

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>People are starting to cry about Kensei

I told you this day would come

>>169898447

GOT EEEEM

>>169898328
he's great but PK is a tier above him

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>>169895954
aesthetic.

>>169898328
He's top rank but he ain't broken like the S ranked.

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Why do people ragequit in 4v4 modes? It's not like anyone takes those stats seriously.

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>>169891005

>Block PK light attack
>Press any button besides run away
>Punished by PK continuously spamming light

This is why PK is broken and unfun. Blocking a light should give you the chance to atleast press a light attack and hit PKs before the spam resumes. If you're not terrible on PK it shouldnt bother you to get punished for spamming, obviously you'd recover fast enough to block, parry or CGB after your light is blocked.

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>>169897918
If I kill my opponent first I just like to watch my teammate fight his guy until one of them die because it's fun, joining in usually just fills up their revenge quicker anyways.

>>169892659
>Secret Mongolard ability: Dumb Fatass pushes people by accident

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>When someone ragequits so hard and fast you know they just slammed the power button on their console/PC.
Do you have this badge of HONOR™ yet?

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>try playing warden
>below rep 1
>about 33% of the time, they leave in this screen

jesus christ, what's wrong with people. Do people just assume it's gonna be vortex city?

>>169898328
I'm saying Warden is not OP against PK, Warlord and Conqueror but he completely shits on anything else when equally skilled.

>>169898553
>Warlord
>Conq
>Broken
t. assasin faggot
>>169898517
PK is great sure but shes manageable. A good warden with his BS vortex is impossible to deal with unless youre a faggot assassin who can roll for days
>>169898417
t. warden

>>169898524
noice

>>169898713
>he thinks the power button is faster than Alt-F4 on PC

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>>169894968
Enviro kills are only fun when stupid shit happens

>>169898618
I always stopped attacking after a failed light.

So you can keep attacking after the first light gets blocked and not be punished?

That really is bullshit, and should be changed.

>>169898823
Do Amerilards not have switches on their power outlets?

>>169898735
It's just whiny babies that fell for the "Vortex can't be beaten" meme.

>>169898582
there are unironically people who basically only play 4v4 modes

>>169892957
All you need to do is light attack that is physically impossible to react to, then back off. You have a 33% chance of success

>>169898884
It might be class specific, but Raider for example is too slow to attack or GB without being hit by more lights from PK after a block.

>>169898886
>switching off your power strip entirely on pc
>instead of alt+f4
is this the logic of the weebs

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Can someone tell me what Vortex is and why it's so scary and everyone complains about it? My brother plays as Warden and I've never seen him do a "Vortex"?

I fight Wardens sometimes who spam this stupid charge attack 1000 times and I just dodge out of the way. Is that a Vortex?

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>>169898883
Dumb shit you say?

>>169898791
>vortex is impossible to deal with
Opinion discarded

>>169898886
Do you really think shutting down your console/PC is faster than quitting the game?

alt+f4 quits instantly, and just returning to the world map from the menu is nearly instant. nobody's turning off their computers for you man

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>>169898505
>not posting the superior version

I parried a PK side dash attack as a Lawbringer but i still couldn't land the top heavy
What the fuck

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versatile

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>Block Wardens zone attack
>Free guardbreak
>'''Nice unbreakable guardbreak hack''

>>169899028
A vortex is basically the same as a mixup, except it doesn't "end" until you guess right.

The idea is that the Warden either lets the bash rip (countered by dodge, failed by standing still and getting hit) or cancels it into a guard break (countered by standing still and teching the GB, failed by dodge into untechable GB for the Warden).

A normal mixup results in the enemy getting some damage on you and a reset to neutral. A vortex is special in that the attacker gets to continue the mixup sequence until you escape by guessing right (side lights after a bash or GB link into another bash)

That being said, it's not even a true vortex since you can just roll backwards to escape at any time. Or even interrupt him with a light attack while he's priming the bash, if you have a fast enough one.

>>169899148
>viking
>in a kensei mask
'no'

>>169899178
That's actually not a bad cancel.

>>169899079
It is if you're not a fag assasin like yourself

>>169898791
>he thinks warden is broken but not warlord
proof that your MMR is low and you only get matched with low-skill shitters like yourself

inb4 "t. warden"
I play kensei

>duels don't give loot, XP, etc
>Dominion works fine
What

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>>169899037
>>169898883

>>169899163
It used as a heavy for pk. Because apparently they needed even more advantages than they already have.

>>169899178
how do you cancel GB into an attack?

is this LB exclusive or can I do it with anyone?

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>>169899203
>Lawbringer keeps spamming his Shove into Guard Break """combo"""
>tech every single one because it's more predictable than the sun setting in the west
>pic related

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For real, what the fuck am I supposed to do about warden's shoulder bash guard break? He can switch to a GB after the point that you need to dodge to avoid getting bashed, and if you dodge you cannot tech the GB, so it seems like a coin toss of what to anticipate.

>>169899279
>Warlord
His only op shit is his head bash and stab and 50m guardbreak push. Warden is much worse

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https://my.mixtape.moe/zjyhwj.webm
>tfw you clothesline a coward roach trying to run the clock out
>tfw have to worry your two valk bitches watch you fumble around in an exhaustion battle and hope they arent laughing too hard

rip servers?

>>169899178
LAW-SPIN-SMASH

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>>169899389
very carefully

>>169899427
like I said, your opinion proof that you're getting matched with low skill players like yourself. give it some time, when you git gud you'll see

>>169899442
>Didn't use the final Snake vs. Liquid battle theme

>>169899238
>what is rolling out of the way

>>169899427
Not this anon, but Warden is somewhat fun to fight. Warlord is just pure frustration.

t. kensei main

>>169899514
hard feint with the cancel button, or is it input fuckery?

clearly a bug but might as well use it while it's around

>>169899586
I have fun fighting Warden's. I hate Warlords.

t. Berserker and Raider

>>169899442
>https://my.mixtape.moe/zjyhwj.webm
ALEPH-tier music choice.

>>169898782
I'm pretty sure Kensei of all people is one of Warden's only real counters.

>>169899539
that was just what came on my spotify shuffle during the chase
the track is called pursuit so it worked well with catching a coward I think

>>169899540
Run out of stamina after two rolls again not an assassin fag
>>169899536
Im rank 5 you dumb fuck. Cant remember the last time I lost to a weeb Kensei fag low quality players

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>>169897918
>last opponent in brawl is fighting my friend
>let them 1v1 until enemy has like 1 chunk of health left
>run in out of nowhere and shield bash them
>kill them with a heavy attack while they are on the ground
makes them mad as fuck every time, I've never gotten as much hate mail doing anything else.

>>169899402
Lel

There's this guy 'hFpStormTrooper' who's going around reporting literally everybody he sees boosting like it wasn't how the game was meant to be played.

Warden or Conq? I don't care about the incoming conq nerfs I just love their armor.

>>169899419

Unlock and roll backwards, or do a light attack you fucking mong, two viable options right there, but instead you fall for and propagate "LE INESCAPABLE VORTEX" meme.

>>169899783
Kek I love doing that

>>169899723
Well don't roll twice, retard. And being rank 5 means fuck all.

>>169899723
>i'm rank 5

that's a measure of how much time you've played, not how good you are.

and you aren't good, if you still think warden is worse to fight than warlord. Sorry man.