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Masketta Man edition

>FAQs and General Info
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>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB (outdated)

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
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>ACTUAL Total War News
Patch, Bretonnia and Isabella are out

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

NEW
Update Info -- https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/191504/bretonnia-update-patch-notes

>Recent
DLC -- http://store.steampowered.com/app/534331

Suggested Mod Pack:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576

is kill >>169780732
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>>169827001
ROLLAN
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damn you niggers fucked up
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I was away for 20 mins and you fags cant even create a new thread?
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Worship Khorne
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>>169827178
this tbqh
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873964498

My game actually looks good now
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What are your top recommended vampire mods, /twg/?
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>>169827041
Gelt, Skarsnik or Vlad get
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Change-god is best god
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Man, I really cannot micro more than 4 units of cavalry in the game.

Any tips for playing Bretonnia?
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Lewd Isabella model when?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625iTKITRoA
Total war when?
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Louen's VO is god-tier.
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Wut do? I was sending 3 stacks to break the siege on Ostland on normal and be the Empire's shield. I have Louen and the Lady close by and will arrive next turn and together they would fuck em up if combined, but I don't want to retreat and lose the blessing of the lady plus knights aren't bitches. Alberic and the paladin both are beasts in melee and I put 3 points into the vigor loss reduction, but theres just so fucking many of them especially in the other 3 stacks, although 1 of them is in march stance and tired.
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>mfw someone calls me a manlet for the last time
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>>169827590
Just back off. The blessing is easy enough to gain back and the vigor loss reduction doesnt actually do that much for you. You'll eventually just burn out
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>>169827041
roll
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>>169827590
>all cav army
>no anti-infantry shock cav
>no damsels
There's a chance that you can cycle charge them hard enough, but no, you're kinda fucked.
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>>169827430
yes. if you're going to heavy micro then don't focus on too many cav and just get elite cav. Make sure you don't leave them in the fight longer than you have to, get the charge bonus and run, Use magic to increase your defense or increase your offense, eithers fine. let your infantry tank the hits. air units are good for this since you can easily win the air and then retreat there if you're worried about ground units.

When doing all cav then you just act pure horse fucker. I deploy in small groups hidden around the map if i can or just a main line far away., Use my air units (my heroes and my pegasus knights) to hit key targets while the damsel heals and buffs them. The mounted yeomen give them support and harass their units, either killing their ranged, their anti-large or their monsters whatever is a good target they can usually overwhelm, only use cav squadrons to try to draw the AI army apart so I can use my air wing to support massive charges on isolated groups of infantry. Once I get a critical mass then I can just charge into their lines from all sides and destroy the rest of their infantry straight up.
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I've gotten a new appreciation for the brets. I've always thought they were just inferior backwater mudhutters, but their society is pretty advanced if not somewhat deplorable
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>>169827041
Roll
No dirty dorfs pls
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You're fucked, but fight it out, your army will retreat, but if you charge quick you might be able to take out that first army before the reinforcements come. You have a ton of anti-large.
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>>169827869
>no damsels
what's so special about damsels?
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>>169827041

Who would be the LL for the expansion races?
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>>169828096
They can use magic.
An army with magic has an advantage over an army with no magic.
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Anyone else suddenly started getting warnings about video memory in the loading screen?
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>>169827927

The Peasant cap really makes it hard to have a sustainable anvil though.
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Remove gobbo.
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Rejoice, peasants! For a generous Knight of Bretonnia provides for you!
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>>169828096
Magic is amazing.

Not bringing magic to a fight when there's always winds of magic is just wasting a resource.

LIFE
can heal your units and make them more resistant to damage (especially armor piercing damage) both a ranged and a melee variant. Also with some spells that do good damage slow the enemy down and have an added bonus of giving the army a heal.

Heavens
Spells that can buff units as well as some wind/bombardment spells. They can actually be pretty useful but each bombardment has its specific target (comet is to be cast in the large infantry melee blob, preferably on their armored infantry), urranons thunderbolt is for sniping out heavily armored unit (its harder to dodge since it lands faster) and wind blast is good against lightly armored light infantry.

Beast
ranged damage against elite units or large area mob units, and wide area unit buffs that are great to hit your knights with when they charge. also you can summon a manticore.

All magic is useful The magic does nothing stuff is just a meme. Just keep your damsel safe.
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>lore of life has a better armor spell than lore of metal
>and it applies as an AoE

OH OK

Gelts +10 to armor factionwide is pretty fucking great though.
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Bordeleaux campaign is shit. You're literally forced to just sit there for 20 turns fighting off tiny rebellions.

I can't leave Mousillon for 1 turn without a revolt happening there and no other faction wants to give me military access so I can't just kill the orcs.
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Really makes you think
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Magic can hurt your own units just like missles can, right?
I'm always afraid to cast near the front lines out of fear that I'll just damage my own units too
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>>169829063
>>and it applies as an AoE
no it doesn't
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Is anyone else having trouble with the Wood Elves as Bretonnia? Getting to the point where I can attack one of their settlements without any of their armies intervening was hard enough, but now I can't even deal with their freaking garrisons. I can't find any location on the siege maps where they can't cheese me with their forest combat bonus or shoot me to bits with their shitty archer spam. I just want to get this over with so I can move on to the fun part of the campaign against Chaos or Greenskins or whatever.
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>Gobbo Archers
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Nothing more comfy than bullying a peasant uprising.
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>>169829194
pic related
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>>169829105
Yes. Aside from vortex spells though, it's kinda hard to deal that much damage through friendly fire.

>>169829082
>mocking the Supreme Patriarch of Based Gold Magic
Someone's getting their bones turned into gold.
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why is the fucking AI so shit.

>Join defensive alliance
>forced into war or alliance is gone
>need the alliance for protection
>vamp lords steam through their land straight to mine and take my only town & begin sieging my castle
>allies stand in their bases doing fuck all

for what purpose, they do absolutely nothing
hell I was in a war with another faction and they had a much, much stronger army than me, but did nothing when I sieged his capital, he just stood their watching me siege for 10 turns
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>>169827041
What does Tzeentch have for me?
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>>169829194
>>169829379
just don't dow on them, or if you are at war, ignore them
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>>169829194
>>169829379
You need to have more cav literally half of your army need to be cavalry
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I haven't played in awhile. Are the AI agents still completely broken? I'm trying to decide if I should install the mod that prohibits them from getting in my ass every turn.
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>faction called "chaos" warriors
>it's the most uniform and boring faction in the setting

what did they mean by this
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>>169829637
Warhammer? From what i see ai don't use agents much
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>>169829285
>fighting with sharpened shovels

sad
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So how do I start the Bretonnian campaign? Do I try to take Marienburg asap or do I like the greenskin tray and attack me over and over?
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>>169829105
yeah, Damsels are good because they can provide an AoE magic resistance, but most of the time you want to make sure the are of effect won't hit your own units.

But hit the right unit with the right spell and you can watch the unit evaporate. Its worth it to understand your spells since when used wrong they look useless, but used right they're amazing.
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>>169827001
What the fuck do you even do against Elves as Bretonnia? are 2v1's really the only thing to do? That fucking 12 tree unit also just shreds polearms and Squires. And that lord. Dear god the lord.

And what about Chaos? I don't have anything to hole the line well enough against them until cavalry manages to get into the thick of it.

Also, how's this for an army: Lord, Paladin, 3 Squires, 3 Polearms, 2 archers(fire/pox), 2 Grail Knights, 3 Grail Guardians, 2 royal pegasus, 1 royal hippogryph, 2 blessed trebuchet.
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>>169829814
Ah sorry, yeah, I'm referring to Warhammer. The AI agents would relentlessly assassinate generals and block armies without failure when I last played (like last year). Was just curious if CA had balanced them to not be as annoying.
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>>169829637
>>169829814
they were toned down but its still worth while to have an assassin character to kill the chaos agents the will appear in force.
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>>169829629
My cav heavy armies have been doing even worse in this shitty little forest. Questing knights can hardly even take out their archers in the woods and every map here is covered in the shit. There really needs to be a "burn Athel Loren to the fucking ground" stance.
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>>169829856
The shovel is the finest implement known to man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o
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>>169829883
>No magic
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>>169827041

Poor Empire, why CA hates you and loves the Vampires so, is anyones guess.
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Did they do something about Chaos /Norsca AI? When the invasion started, they weren't running away from my main army.
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>>169830061
Alright, which lore(s) are good?
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name these characters
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>>169830173
Life and beasts
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>Ywn lick the fey enchantress's sweaty feet clean after a day of running around in the dirty fields
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>>169829937
yeah they reduced how much the AI uses agents. but you still need to deal with them at times.
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>>169829398
make sure you've set a war target for your AI buddy
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>>169830304
at least when I am playing I don't have 4 following my army around like flies on shit.
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>>169830274
>You will never pamper her delicate toes with your tongue and kiss her arch while you carefully remove every stain and clump of dirt between the wrinkles in her soles

Why... Why does it hurt so bad, bros?
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>>169830274
>>169830470
UNCHIVALROUS
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>>169827041

lmao 5 vampire, rollan
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How the fuck do I deal with Charlemagne in AoC if I dont want to just own all of France?
Ive been fighting him for like 20 years and my dumbshit allies wont take his land, just sacking settlements.
I dont want to own France I just want to break it up.
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>>169830224
>Make Bastonnes legendary lord the guy from the 6th edition cover
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Anyone know an ideal navy comp to cheese autoresolve in shogun 2?
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>>169830434
I did, they did nothing.
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>>169830626
nanban trade ships
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I want Katarin to step on Karl's dick
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>>169827790
>>169827869
>doubting the lady
whats needed for a heroic victory? I've never gotten one across any game. I BTFO'd the snow niggers and didn't lose a single unit and killed/wounded all their leaders, yet it was just a "close" victory
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>>169830743
She's too busy taking thick pus filled minotaur cumshots right in her breeding snatch.
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>>169830781
idk, thats a heroic one t b h
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THE EMPIRE ENDURES
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>>169830849
Can you please think about what you say before you say it...
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>>169830781
Damn, good work.
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>>169830781
Absolutely chivalrous.
And yeah, I don't know. That ought to be a heroic one.
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>>169831063
She gets fucked to death by nurgle infested beastmen in canon bro. The last thing she sees is a mountain of boil covered and rotting minotaur cock.
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>>169830849
Citation needed.
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>>169830849
>>169831210

Cool thanks for sharing your weird fetish with us. You can go back to playing Fennoxo games now you furry douche bag.
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>>169830781

An armee of Zee Lady which bears her blessing cannot be beaten!
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>>169827041
Rolling
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>>169831210
No..its not true,...end times is not canon!!!
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>>169829194
>>169829379

>people still making the mistake of thinking they need to go to war with Wood Elves when they are a decent ally and don't do anything anymore
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>>169830781
Nice playing with a mod that deletes Norshit Skirmisher Cav? Makes fighting Norscum much more fun. Frickin' HATE those Chaos Chariots though.
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>>169828131
Tehenhauin for Skink play
Some Saurus lord for Saurus play
Mazdamundi for generalized Slann play

Malekith leading the Dark Elves proper
Malus Darkblade leading a Dark Elf faction which has invaded northern Ulthuan using the ancient sunken Dark Elf capital of Tor Anroc as a base
Morathi being a cunt somewhere else

Alarielle the Everqueen because clearly we need more chicks but apparently can't have Ariel even though she's much more of a fighty lord
Teclis as a mage lord and his faggot brother Tyrion as a fighty lord
Some other elf leading a third faction. Maybe Finubar himself.

Clan Pestilens lead by Lord Nurglitch will be in Lustria and will be the only playable Skaven start in the New World despite them being a New World race. They will get buffs to plague related stuff which will be a central Skaven mechanic. Skaven agents will have the ability to blow up city gates and spread plague within them to weaken the garrison over several turns before there is a Skaven rebel uprising that attacks and takes over the city. CA is retarded so the rebels will also be hostile to the Skaven who instigated the uprising.

The other Skaven start will be in the old world with Skavenblight. Skaven will get a free third start once the Dark Lands are added.

Queek Headtaker will either be placed in an existing Dwarf hold and be subject to the same King and the Warlord mechanics as the other two- maybe he will start in Karak Eight Peaks itself. Or CA will make another lord pack with Karak Azul or Thorek Ironbow and make us pay for Queek.
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>>169830730
non-kiristian pls
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>>169831449
>don't do anything
>can't be traded with
>practically a time-bomb that will eventually fight your dorfbros
>decent ally
Fuck off, Tree Hitler, and take your Beastman king with you.
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>>169831470
>skirmisher cav
you mean the axe throwers? I didn't mod them out and they were the worst part of the battle, responisble for the majority of my pegasus deaths
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>>169831472
>listing 3 LLs per faction

Oh my if you think we aren't just getting 2 like they did with the first game.
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>>169831470
yeomen horse archer, set them to melee and then chase after their skirmishers, they're faster so they'll run away but you'll shoot into the backs of the maurader cav and kill them all.

don't even worry about dogs. Mounted yeomen archers can deal with them too, just run from them you'll kill enough with shots that youll be able to take them on in melee. all of this is better if supported with some flying units
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>>169831586
Ah sou desu ne gosaimasu
Sorry to hear that, hate the way the AI can turbomicro them.
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>>169829680
It means they were intended to be the first DLC released in May but because they pushed the game back one month they didn't have as much time to develop them but still decided to make them "day 1 DLC content", pissing off large numbers of people.
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So what do I do to start the Brettonia campaign properly.

Do I attack the lesser Brett Dukes or try and take Marienburg?
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>want to start a Legendary Bret campaign
>AI Buildings and Recruitment mod is still not updated
BY ZE LADY
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>>169831449
I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>169831637
You're right how silly of me. After all how would they make DLC if they put all the lords for the DLC in at game start?

But still- Skaven will only get one start position in the actual New World despite being a New World race and Skavenblight/Clan Skyre's start will be locked to anyone who doesn't own the original game to try and force people to buy the old game. And people who own the old game will get to enjoy Skavenblight spreading disease in their provinces without being able to play Skaven unless they own the new game.

What a perfect "incentive" the Skaven are to get people to buy both games.
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>Total War: Warhammer is one of CA's greatest hits ever.
>This game plus others like Vermintide and Mordheim have given a lot of exposure to the setting in the vidya world.

Is there a chance that we could get a Warhammer RPG eventually?
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>>169829680
Chaos is Order
A dead world is a clean world
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>>169830730
>Christian Daimyo
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>>169831804
Holy shit why is CA so fucking greedy? The base game was 60$ with 4 factions, the DLCs are expensive a fuck considering how little they add.
Now we will also have another full price expansion and more DLCs to come.
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>>169831987
There's always a chance. I don't see anyone decent trying to make a Warhammer RPG though.
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>>169831987
Weren't there already old games that were RPGs? Or do you mean a good RPG like Skyrim?
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>>169831473
black ship and captured nanban trade ships
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>>169831987
>Warhammer bounty hunter/monster slayer RPG

I want to believe.
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>>169832131
>a good RPG
>like Skyrim
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>>169832067

Deus Vult, infidel
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>>169832131
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>>169832131
You mean good rpg like Morrowind right?
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>>169831987
I would like to see an isometric RPG which faithfully adapts WFRP. Preferably second edition.
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Rock the boat!
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Alright lads, r8 my strategy
>Declare war on date
>both armies are in ambush stance
>date move one or both armies to try and attack & get intercepted/destroyed
>with armies out of my way, consolidate the northern tip of honshu
>this gives me access to iron that is needed to upgrade my military province
>will likely trigger realm divide, but will also eliminate the need to garrison my eastern cities


>>169831807
>attack the lesser bret dukes

don't do this unless you are prepared to take the 200 chivalry penalty

>>169832206
>>169832260
Jōi

>>169832509
terrible forced meme
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>>169830224
>Carlos Francisco
>Barba Rossa
>Dragon
>Baldspot
>Sauron before he went bad
>Xcom 2
>Star trek alien

Second row
>That Dicaprio movie/book/story
>Kill bill guy that likes his beard too much
>A dwarf sitting in a giant's head
>a red bull
>a flaming tiger
>Pope in armor
>two swords crossing

Third
>Voldemort
>Saruman
>Boring Knight
>Genghis Khan
>Cleopatra
>dragon rapping
>hot glue material

Forth
>Same moustache again
>Angry Sun
>White cock only
>Panda
>Candelabrum dripping wax
>Cant see shit
>Dragon incest result

last
>Santa
>What is that in your hat
>Usual pedo catholic priest
>He-man opposite
>Handwrite
>Carnival Knight
>Angry Aztec
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>>169831987
Warhammer Fantasy's old world is the perfect setting for a game with Mount & Blade mechanics. Starting a loner, adventuring, doing fun stuff, marrying wenches, being a merc, bandit, or lord... definitely would need some changes to battles to make them more in line with lore and tabletop.
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>>169832509
Holy shit I just want a pirate faction. With sea monsters and stuff.
It would be more interesting than Elves rekins or Edgy Chaos versions of existing factions
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>Can't read unit cards while loading
How can they fuck that up?
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>people actually go to war with wood elves in their bretonnia campaigns

Not very chivalrous when the dead are rising and chaos hordes are pouring out of the north while the green tide rolls in from the south. There are more evil enemies that need to be dealt with and the elves make an extremely powerful ally. You won't need to keep any armies in bretonnia while you're out crusading because welfs will rape anything you sic them on. They're also great once chaos comes knocking because they don't seem to take attrition so you just send them off into the burnt wasteland of the empire to hunt for chaos armies.
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>>169832339
>>169832295
>Hating on skyrim
I mean, I get what you're saying, skyrim was mediocre in many many ways, but the scenery, the world, the discovery... Skyrim has exactly what I would like about a warhammer rpg.
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So Balthasar might actually be the best starting lord now.

+10 armor to every single unit is incredibly good, and allows the player to use any units they like, as opposed to being shoe-horned into meme flagellant armies with Volkmar.

Karl is incredibly easy to get, and you can do so without even taking another province outside Reikland, with a bit of luck.
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>play as dorfs
>umgi murder themselves to death, vampires spread like cancer
>play as empire
>dorfs and welfs murder everybody else and each other to death
>play as bretonnia
>everyone accepts me as world knight police, forces of order naturally congregate into NATO before Chaos even launches the invasion proper
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>>169832607
There's the warsword mod for warband
update in 10 days
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>>169832607

And magic right
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>>169832860
>Karl is incredibly easy to get

iirc he requires confederating w/ another empire province, and good luck with that
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>>169832607
Bannerlord will have extensive modding capabilities. Here's hoping it gets a Warhammer mod very quickly.

Also, the CKII mod Geheimnisnacht is fucking excellent.
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>>169832860
Thinking of doing him for my next campaign since I just finished the brets but I think I might try the von carsteins first.

If I pick Isabella and I unlock Vlad later can I still get vanguard deployment for his army?
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what are these fucking balloons doing everywhere in Empire cities? why do they get released all over? whats their purpose?
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>>169832987
If you haven't done that by turn 40 at the VERY latest you're a retard.
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>>169832987

Yeah, that's not hard.

I did it only fully controlling Reikland, with Carroburg and Marienburg (not grossel) under my control.

It's incredibly easy to build good relations with an Empire faction on any difficulty but Legendary.
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>>169833094
Probably celebrating Karl's coronation.
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>>169832843
While I liked Skyrim too I think the Warhammer setting would be wasted on something similar.
Let's remember that Warhammer is at the core a wargame and a quite dark one.
I don't see you going around picking flowers and one shotting skellies in a Warhams setting
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I wish I could transform other people into vampires if I had high enough relations with them.
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>>169833094
Rudimentary alarm system.
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>>169832860
what's Karls requirements?
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>>169833245
WFRP captures the atmosphere perfectly. It's harsh and unforgiving. And tabletop RPGs have consistently been best adapted as isometric video games. If there is ever a Warhammer CRPG, that's how it should be done.
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>>169833404
see >>169832987
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>>169832878

>Play as Empire
>Work to actively unite the Empire while keeping good relations with Brets and Dwarves
>Everyone falling in line
>Vassalise most of the Bret nations who are weak because I've been funding Mousillon for the last fifty turns and they need to bail before the vamps eat them
>crush the vamps with my flagellant death armies and panzerbrigades

Good stuff.
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>>169833156
>>169833191
>playing anything other than legendary

THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>169833429
Is there a good version available on Tabletop Simulator? I'm too cripplingly shy to play with people I don't know in real life.
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>>169832843
I understand what you mean, but i want rpg when i have freedom of choice, can read my journal have exciting quests and developed and well written characters
Skyrim is good sandbox but bad rpg
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>Karl Franz lets Deathclaw roam freely

Jesus christ, that's pretty terrifying.
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>>169833556
Legendary doesn.t make the game harder, it makes it more annoying. The only noticeable difference is even more agent spam.
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>>169833725
PRINCE
AND EMPEROR
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>>169833725
THEY WILL OBEY
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>>169833245
>>169833429

If you haven't played the Gothic games, they were pretty great RPG's and would stylistically fit pretty well.
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>>169833725
Deathclaw seems like the kind of Gryphon that wouldn't eat random citizens, so it's probably alright.
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>>169833245
I came to it with total war and from what I've seen, it would work brilliantly. (Then again, I haven't played the tabletop and never would.) The world is rich and diverse with a lot features that would appeal to many people. Indeed, isn't there a wealth of people in there that do pretty much what an RPG character would do?
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>>169833637
Not that I know of, because if it existed I would be using it too instead of reading quest supplements alone with pen, paper and dice.
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>>169831987
Warhammer fantasy is fine for rpg because it is just a dark fantasy like DA:O or The Witcher.
Warhammer 40k is too over the top for it imo.

Unfortunately no bigger studio would want to make Warhammer rpg as they already have their own fantasy settings.
and most of them are shit anyway

>>169832607
Shame that Warsword have such retarded design choices and is unfinished.
>Beastmen rule Estalia
>No proper bandits like beastmen wandering on Empire provincies with occasional doomstacks
>As soon as the game starts everyone make peace with everyone (HElves sign peace treaty with Beastmen and Orcs)
>Pirate kingdom rather than Tilean city states
It pretty at least. Cities and armors are perfect
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>>169834071
I would have liked it if Obsidian had decided to make an adaptation of WFRP, but they're betting it all on Pillars of Monotony.
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>>169834071
>Wielding a sword larger than the peasants are
>By a mutated demon viking
>It takes more than one swipe to kill a peasant
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>yfw THE PILGRIMS HAVE SURVIVED THE CHAOS WASTES
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>>169833929

Deathclaw is incredibly intelligent. As in, smarter than most humans.

In the Battle for Blood Keep, he fought over Karl's wounded body for three hours, driving off all the Blood Knights that seeked to claim it singlehandedly until the Reiksgaurd managed to fight their way through.

In the Warhammer MMO,If Karl Franz was attacked Deathclaw would actually fly down from the sky and smash through a nearby window to help him (though this feature was removed in later versions).

In the End Times, it was the only non-archmage/God to realise that Karl Franz had been possessed by Sigmar.

Basically, Deathclaw is a bigger asset to the Empire than most of it's citizens by a fairly huge margin.
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>>169834310
PIRATE SKELLIES CONFIRMED
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>>169834071
imagine that webm w/ bannerlord 2h mechanics

never ever ;_;

I can never get rolling in warsword, I always get fucked by the roving chaos dwarf/forest goblin army doomstacks
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>>169832103
>expansion

sequel*

It just worked out that way. May was supposed to be spent finishing up the Chaos Warriors and instead they spent it finishing up the base game and released Chaos Warriors unfinished. But people who preordered got 10% off and got the CW for free so it was a good deal if you bought it early.
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>>169834071
I'm really hoping the inevitable Bannerlord mod is superior. They just threw too much shit into Warsword. I mean, they even included Nippon for fuck sake.

When really a Mount & Blade mod shouldn't extend much further than Norsca in the North and the Badlands in the South. Smaller scale with more detail would be better than the clusterfuck that is Warsword.
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Best faction has best music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mM19RCCa3g
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>>169834298
>devastate Archaon and the fuckboy prince
>nothing happens
>few minutes later, Kholek comes in
>Kholek gets immediately crusaded on
>THE PILGRIMS HAVE SURVIVED THE CHAOS WASTES
>Birb comes in after Kholek, instantly deleted before the pilgrims could make it to us
Errantry war is weird desu.
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>>169834437
>tfw vampires are the 5 major faction in the new world
>tfw only playable if you own the original game
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>>169834775
Undoubtedly best track in the game.
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>>169834360
Deathclaw was an anonymous gift from the Wood Elves too.
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>>169827041
i need it
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>>169834775
Is it just me or Vampire Cunts' music really stands out? In a good way.
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Why do the Bloody Handz have 10k gold through raiding as win condition, when they don't have a raiding stance?
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>>169827041
Time to break my Very Hard cherry. But who with?
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>>169835007
:^)
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>>169834991

It's definately not you bud, some races in many games just have more "character"

It's sorta like starcraft 2, zerg and protoss just exist but terran's have some of the best concepts and music in the entire game.
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>>169835007
Wait I think one of their other stances do raiding. The camp stance maybe?
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>>169835052
Make the Lady proud, anon.
THIS - IS MY WILL.
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>>169835007
Because they have a modified "encampment" stance that can be used at 25% movement and also raids the territory they're encamped in.

Ya build yer waaagh! while ya raid, ya git.
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>>169835052
Remember Anon, chivalry is all.
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>>169835052
>>169835181
>>169835162
FOR ZE LADY
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>>169835007
I'm willing to bet that's a bug because I've completed a bloody handz campaign.

In case you're just mixed up, the camp option is the raid option IIRC.
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>>169834775
good taste annon
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>>169834775
It's the best track but entire soundtrack is pretty bad desu.
Why did they get rid off Jeff Van Dyck? His music in Medieval 2, Rome 1 and Shogun 2 is fucking perfect.
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>>169835181
>peasants
>chivalrous

Someone needs to go back to his field.
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Can I get some campaign and army building advice for the vampire cunts? With Mannfred I guess since you can't pick Vlad anymore and I assume Von Carstein is harder than Vampires.
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>>169835052
REJOICE
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>>169835382
Something has to form your meat anvil.
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>>169834775
It's like the saltiest cracker in a bowl full of barely salted crackers.
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>>169835327
No idea why but I hope we get some better music with the expansions.
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>>169835282
>>169835173
>>169835161

Oh yeah I just fucked up, never mind.
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>>169834921

I generally like how karl's entire life has had wood elves in it, I hope they at least add the shield of civilisation to wood elves to come to the rest of the worlds aid when needed, Isolationist doesn't mean idiotic, their way of life is threatened too.
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>>169835418
>cant pick vlad

The fuck are you on about? They're their own faction now, the Von Carsteins. And Vlad is better than manlet in every way, I don't know why anyone would pick manny the manlet over daddy vlady.
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>>169835327
Best from Shogun 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NlEOkh7ZFU
Best from Rome 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlp4TQt-yog
Best from Medieval 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY81yYFzgiU
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>>169835579
Wood elves literally think Athel Loren will be safe from Chaos if the rest of the old world gets fucked. Despite parts of it being corrupted by chaos.

They aren't right in the head.
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>>169835609
Shogun 2 is full of awesome songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHGUdWjoS44
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>>169835138
>redneck empire
>best concepts
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>Start Bret campaign
>Confederate another faction
>They had a full stack of peasants for some reason and I now have almost -2000 income
H-haha great. Should I just suicide them or something?
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>>169835753
You can just disband them, anon..
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>>169835327
> Not also including Medieval 1 and Shogun 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZFaieNEs4c

Jeff Van Dyck was fucking based. No idea why he fell off of Total War, but I've missed him ever since.
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>Playing WElf as Orion, season of revelation
>Try to attack nearby city that declared war on me
>Basically even armies except they have 3 waywatchers instead of glade guards and all dancers as melee while I have shitty eternals
>Battle is arrow spam, no shield wall or defensive stuff in this game, basically just wardancer mosh pit, archers killing each other rapidly
>No hammer and anvil strats

Not very fun
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>>169835382
>peasants can't aspire to greater things
They may lack the strength of will, the wits, the raw physical prowess or endurance of proper knights, but that doesn't mean anything when they're ready to die for their Lady and their Liege.
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>>169835745

Did you play sc2? I meant that they have the most "character". The whole cowboy them does them a lot of justice, go to youtube and listen to sound tracks of all three races and you'll probably agree with me. I'm a zerg player myself but terran character is just so much stronger.
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>ally every bret faction, but i'm a dummy so none of them want to confederate all game because they have huge armies that are just hanging out.
>one guy loses a big part of his army to some beastmen, confederate him
>immediately chain confederate every other bret faction in 2 turns and go into massive debt

normal difficulty is the best
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>>169835597
I meant as leader of the vampire counts.
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>>169835817
I know, but it seems like a waste to just disband an entire army.
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Goddamn his quest items suck dick
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>>169835609
>best from shogun 2
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glW0C3VkGMI
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>>169836064
More of a waste than crippling your economy?
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>>169836067
Are you using the better magic mod?
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>>169836048
The Cunts are now obsolete since best dad has his own faction, lad.
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>>169836067
What the literal fuck is that army comp
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>>169836176
P I S T O L S
I
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T
O
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REQUESTING VAMPIRE BROS HELP:

1.) How good are Black Knights? Are they worth slotting in an army?

2.) Any decent mods for Vampire Counts/Von Carsteins? Would love to have a generic Blood Knight Lord.
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G O B L I N S
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>>169835327
Apparently he quite because he's a Canuck, so he had to work remotely for CA. Shame.

https://jeffvandyck.com/games/alien-isolation-2014/
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>>169835609
Best from Rome 1 was Forever

Although I'll never know what the fuck that Roman general yells
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>>169836258
Blood knights are VC's only good Cav
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>>169836238
You should have witch hunters instead of captains.
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>>169836067

The Staff of Volans is great.

Pop it with Arcane Conduit and you can regen from 0 to 30 by the time they both run out.
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How do confederations work? When I try to confederate weak allies, it doesn't work. When I try to confederate enemies that I have besieged, it doesn't work.
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how do I git gud as wood elves
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FUCK, spilled my drink
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>>169836425
Knigga, have you researched the banner that allows you to confederate?
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>>169836265
HONHONHON, YOU CAME TO ZE WRONG NEIGHBOURHOOD, GOBBO
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>>169836469
Mounted archers with poison arrows.
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>>169836067
12 Free Companies I can sort of understand. But why the need for 3 Captains?
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>>169836553

>Grail Knights lose vs Chaos Knights

Explain this.
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>>169836469
Get Durthu and some other trees, right click on enemy.
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>>169836551
I'm not playing Bretonnia at the moment but yes, I've had this issue even with the confederation tech for Bretonnia.
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>>169836425
You need to be stronger than your allies
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>>169836258
1) Black Knights are perfectly usable as heavy and shock cav, though Blood Knights will be a straight upgrade, they will serve you well for less upkeep.

2) just search around the workshop with 'Blood Dragon' or 'Generals' and I'm sure you'll find something
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Friends, tell me what to think about HeirofCarthage and PrinceofMacedon
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>>169836697
I'm rank 1. They're rank 30. Is that sufficient?
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>>169836804
First one is alright I remember watching some videos of him trying legendary WRE after I beat that. I did better than he did kek

Latter is lispy and played vanilla Rome 1 but claimed to be a history buff wtf
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>>169836804
Shit compared to Turin and Oakley/THFE
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Girls gone wild
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The next turn will make or break this legendary campaign

>>169836605

Captains tank
Companies shit on the blob without friendly fire

If the captains fail to magnet companies can hold their own for a bit for rear charges by reiks
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>>169836661
All Chaos Knights are technically Chosen riding Chosen Horses.

Some elf's blessing is no match for the favor of the true gods
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>>169827270
This, so much better than any other Campaign Map mod.
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>>169836695
Not sure then.

I usually confederate when they are at war with a stronger enemy and losing.
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>>169836690
I'm Orion though, 30 turns into season of revelation
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>>169836804
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Why is armor so overpowered in this game.
Any unit with less than 110 armor is basically worthless and gets killed or routed in seconds.
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>>169836265
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>>169836963
Fucking stupid jelly-blood. It fucked up all my screenshots until I installed a mod to put some paint thinner in it.
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>>169836986
That actually seems like a sound stratagem, based gold wizard.
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GROOODGE

AWAKEN MY ANCESTORS
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>>169836258
Get http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=779295274 and consider getting http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=724263018
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>>169835884
I didn't include M1 and S1 because I haven't played them at all
I started with Medieval 2 and played every Total War since it and Rome 1. I missed only Attila and I'm planning to buy it. I want to try S1 and M1 in future maybe
>>169836285
Really shame. Even Rome 2 trailer music was better than Rome 2 soundtrack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ED1zouIQo
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>>169836986
I would have taken a Warrior Priest for the replenishment buff but I guess I see your logic.
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>march in the general direction of Kislev, trampling all barbar filth in my way
>Louen shouts I AM KING HERE at the Chosen of Chaos
>we're in the bear country
Why is he so perfect?
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>>169836804
HoC is chill. I like him.

Haven't kept up with PoM in ages.
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>attacking that first shitty orc settlement
>BoP is almost even, orcs have an advantage
>autoresolve gives me valiant defeat
>playing the actual fight gives me decisive victory

Trust in ze lady?
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>>169836285
>JvD is Canadian

He shall be raked last.
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>>169827270
>no change for vampiric/chaos corruption

It's alright.
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>>169837376
Ignore balance of power, ze Lady will always protect her faithful champion.
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>>169836661
Do they really? I rekt chaos knights in campaign with grail knights but that might be because of buffs.
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>>169837076
>Any unit with less than 110 armor is basically worthless and gets killed or routed in seconds.

No they dont, you just suck.
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>>169827270
Bueno

Any mod that makes this game more photorealistic works for me. I hate MOBA-graphics, I want it to look like Game of Thrones fantasy, detailed and atmospheric not glowy and blurry
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>>169837250

This is basically the best empire build against the legendary AI I've found, As you can see I've won the quest battle with barely any losses, just health damage on the captains.

Actually there is one thing, taking one pistol in favor of a life wizard since it synergizes like crazy with captains, but in my entire campaign the life wizard pool has been empty the entire time, in absence I use gelt's melee attack debuff to help tank
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>>169836804
HeirofCarthage is not bad
Prince of manlets is faggot
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>>169837197

Thanks bud, both look great. Will try them out.
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>>169837010
>Imagine a horse so evil it worships chaos and surrenders to it wholly.
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>>169838042
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Does Archaon only show up once you reach a certain size?
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>>169838042
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>>169838042
>Attila horses worship Khorne
Deepest lore?
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>>169838042
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>>169836661
no, they don't, although the chaos knights last a long time thanks to their armor/melee def
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It's March 1, March is the month of War. So I'm playing Rome II. Do I play Grand Campaign or Emperor Augustus?
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>>169838210
OUR HORSES LOVE BLOOD
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>>169838363
Play as Armenia.
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Got a present for you big bird
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It's time to get the lads together and fuck these knife-eared gits.
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>>169838493
GROODGES WILL BE SETTLED
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Wait, are campaign custom maps a thing now?

How do you go about putting them in your game? Is it as easy as just downloading a pack that gets automatically placed on the map?
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>>169838493
GRUDGES WILL BE SETTLED
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can you use mods with a pirated rome 2
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>>169838586
TRUE RULER OF EIGHT PEAKS
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>mfw people are slowly starting to add custom maps to campaign for minor settlements
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>50 turns in
>Alberic still doesn't want to confederate
>all he did the entire time was sit in his fucking castle

Holy fuck, I'm already strength ranking 2 (after Skaeling) and recently conquered Estalia. What more does this asshole want from me?
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>>169838746
link to some?
>>169838598
seconding
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>>169838746
Anything you recommend?
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>>169838719
Sure, needs to be patched to the latest version though
>>
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>>169838741
>Skarsnik of the cucked moon
>ruler of anything but his squig's rear
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>>169838948
MAKIN' ME ANGRY
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Why the fuck does this update need 34gb of disk space?
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>>169839028
t. Beggar nohammer
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>CA done with Old World
>Kislev still an Empire clone
SAD
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oh gpd very hard is hard

i'm too pleb

i can't micro all these knights

lady protect them for i can no
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>>169838948
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>>169839181
Every large update does that, haven't you noticed? It's because Steam is retarded.
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>>169839331
>.gif
>no animation

C'mon, you couldn't even make it shaky?
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>>169839276
I believe in you, anon, and so does the Lady.
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>>169839276
you can reduce the battle difficulty.

I find with knights you either go few and very elite so you can properly micro against the anvil.

or you go wide and go all or almost all cav so you can just run from the bad engagements and pull your enemies apart. over time with cycle charges.

But going half and half is more difficult. since your anvil doesn't last and your cav gets tied to the anvil.
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>>169839425
Just shake your monitor you sperg
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>>169839274
>Poles whining for Kislev in every single thread
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>>169839487
It's not poles though, it's Eastern Slavhumans.
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Is there a single reason why shielded wild riders arent a complete replacement for regular ones? Absolutely zero stat downsides.
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>>169839487
Muh battle of Vienna
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>>169839471
And Yeah I'm still on my second campaign. Vh/vh I lost a lot of battles since i'm not save scumming, and damn if I didn't get fucked when i confederated the other half of bretonnia. I confederated too late and i paid for it. but I finally defeated the chaos incursion and bretonnia is built up and its time to bring the fight to them. Can't wait to do legendary.
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>>169839370
what am I supposed to do? Just reinstall it?
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Goodnight bird
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>>169839615
They cost more dummy
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>Talking to a friend who picked up TWW off the bundle
>'haha yeah dude I love radious, it gives me a lot of armies to play with and a ton of unit variety'
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>>169839661
>that birdman

Silliest unit in the game.
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>>169839713
Time to end your friendship
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>>169839661
>Barely any kills on the DEMIGRYPH KNIGHTS
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>>169839676

Yeah but I mean other than that? Sorry I should've said other than cost.
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>>169839713

There are people who like Radious in this thread right now anon, in among us.
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>>169839628
Just make space, it only needs it temporarily. You should always have some free space on your drive anyway.
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>>169829872
As Louen:
>Walk to the edge of your province towards Marienburg
>Recruit max archers
>Take Marienburg next turn
>Destroy mountain Greenskins the turn after
>Heal wounds in Marienburg then take the last Wasteland settlement in next few turns, finishing Mareinburg
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>>169831210
Fuck you and fuck any and all parts of end times that even remotely imply your disgusting fetishes are canon. Hell fuck end times in general really, some of the units looked nice but the entire fucking thing was just so fucking stupid.
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>>169839276
v hard battle difficulty is actually the default battle difficulty used in legendary difficulty
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>>169839801
barely any kills on fucking anything desu
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>>169839812
No, there is no other reason to not upgrade to the shielded variant
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>New World expansion

>Dark Elves in Naggaroth
>Lizardmen in Lustria
>Skaven get some stuff in between I guess? They'll probably have an underground territoty mechanic as well
>High Elves in Ulthuan
>Chaos Warriors and Beastmen north of Naggaroth
>Pirate Vampire Counts in the coast of not-Argentina

>South of the Badlands expansion

>Greenskins in the north
>Tomb Kanz in center of the continent
>Lizardmen in the Southland Jungles
>Dorfs in the mountains
>Araby faction?
>Vampire count type undead faction with Arkhan the Black between the Kangz and lizards?
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>>169839487
How do you know it's poles. Kislev is far more russian than polish.
I mean, except for winged cavalry everything else looks russian, isn't it?
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>>169840021

Figured as much, thanks man.

Just out of curiosity also, should I use waywatchers as my ranged once I can maintain the upkeep?
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>>169839485
well now my monitor is all funny colored.
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>b-but it's impossible to take Marienburg at turn 2!

Why is /twg/ full of casuals nowadays? Did it on VH btw
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>>169839801
>>169840012

The reinforcing army did most of the job

>Light vs dark
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>>169840012
>>169839801
1 kill = 1 chariot or one giant or one demon of tzeentch. so not terrible.

>>169839661
could have finished off the infantry instead of leting it get away especially when it was 2 armies to one. That's why you have cav. Fight one battle not two.
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>>169838746
Post them or I'll write you into the book, bud.
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>>169830781
From what I googled,

1. Be out numbered
2. Be out gunned (unit quality/funds spent)
3. Don't lose too many people doing it (percentage wise)

The power bar needs to be real tilted towards them and im not sure how much lost is too much lost since it looks like you lost about a third of your guys winning that
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>>169839938

He's bullshitting.

Kislev went dark so quickly that nobody actually knows what happened to any lore figure there, other than they almost certainly died.

Also, if anyone would rape, it'd be a Slaaneshite, not a Nurglite.
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>>169840105
They aren't that much better than Deepwood Scouts, but yeah, there is no reason not to when you can pay the upkeep comfortably.
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>>169829105
buffs/debuffs are consistently a better use of your magic power once you're in melee anyway; evocations are only really good for alpha-strikes
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>ywn be magically bullied by the fay enchantress
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>>169840060
>everything else looks russian
That what dumb ruski want to belive
Polish hussars, ukrainian cossacks, tatar like units and some slav like infantry
I guess ice magic and bear cavalry make them russian only right
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>>169840191
>>I took marienburg on turn 2 on VH.

Explain how please. Towers are murderous in this game and you typically need to heavily outnumber the defenders with equal quality infantry or better to win on the walls and take the settlement.
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>>169840357

Thanks again bud, I aint got any other questions, good luck in your games.
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>>169838586
REVENGE INCARNATE
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>>169840408
Not if the enemy is blobbing really hard into your line.
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>>169827041
GIVE ME BRETON OR GIVE ME DEATH
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>>169830781
>>169840235
There was also a guy on the TW forum for shogun 2 who said

criteria for heroic victory(according to game code):
enemy army power is 20% higher than yours, and your casualty is lower than 26%.
(I haven't look closely to how army power is calculated, but I believe it is related to number of men and quality of each unit in the army)

If you are the defender in a battle and, when victory is achieved, you choose to end the battle instead of continuing, then the criteria for heroic victory is a bit different.
In this case, the casualty criteria is automatically satisfied, and the army power ratio
would be based only on the pre-battle power of units which still remain in the battlefield
at the point you choose to end the battle.(escaped/perished units excluded)

It most likely changed a bit since then, but this a good ball park figure for your heroic hunting
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>>169838746
>still hasn't posted any
going in the book
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>>169840702
>>169827041
NO FUCK THAT I JUST PLAYED EMPIRE
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>>169839837
I have never used Radious, whats wrong with it?
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> Do all this work to get Gelt's Cloak of Molten Metal
>Enemy Hero action success chance: -10%
>Melee defence: +5
>Missile resistance: +25%

So... Is this just shit? What the fuck is with the melee defence, I'm supposed to keep my wizards out of melee, right?
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>>169840804
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
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>>169840810
Black orc crossbowmen (halberd) gryphon rider
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>>169840810
Here's 50 new units with 117 armor, 60 melee atk and def for 1250 pesos, 7k hp and 90 leadership, oh and skeleton archers with all of the above
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>>169829194
Dont attack them, and absolutely dont take the tech against them

It was my biggest mistake on my legendary campaign. Just let them stay in their forest, they never come out anyway. There is also zero advantage to killing them, you get so much honor from fighting chaos when they come you dojt need the extra points from WE.
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>>169840804
The elector counts aren't going to summon themselves Anon.
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>>169840872
>>169840990

I guess there's no other choice
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>>169841026
go play as gelt and enjoy that sweet +10 armor on all armies
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>>169840846
Melee defense is kinda meh, but the other two buffs are useful although not gamechanging in and of themselves.
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>>169841104
I rolled PRINCE AND EMPEROR twice.

I can't ignore that.
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>>169840536
You park your entire army tightly packed at one flank (left is better on that map)
Then you use your Treuchets to destroy the 2 most left towers, screen them with your shitty peasants to absorb any tower fire that comes at them. Then shoot a hole in the wall on that side. Park Pegasus knights at the far left side of the wall so you can look over it, so you can see the defenders inside and use your archers to shoot up the defenders inside
Louen is tanky as fuck and has a mount, so use him to draw tower fire as well, also you can use him to bait out the mortar fire and make them waste all ammo. Mortar fire baiting also works with the Pegasus Knights on the left flank sometimes.
After that it's just a matter of time before they are all dead, if you used up all archer ammo, just get in and finish off the rest
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>>169840810
Firstly; its not lore friendly at all
Second; TWW doesnt allow new art assets to be made and imported into the game, due to GWS saying they dont want legal issues with people making copywrite infringing content like LotR or GoT in TWW mods. So the only thing modders can do is take pre existing assets and redistribute them amoung units to make "new" ones. Which leads to every single radius unit being some absolutely broken clusterfuck of random traits and uses that makes no sense at all and doesnt fit into the game. It also led to the whole Black Orc Halberd Griffon (Ranged) meme.
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>>169841142
That's truly chivalrous of you, anon.
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>>169840846
the real prize here is the missile resistance, 25% is a pretty big chunk to get all at once

but yes the item overall is shit
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>>169840221

Lol people trying to teach me how to play legendary.

I can't control where the armies spawn if I'm attacked, I fought two battles on the opposite sides of the map, finishing off the infantry was impossible.
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>>169841194
Hmm interesting. I'll have to keep this in mind when I eventually get around to playing a Bretonnian campaign. Kinda cheap though.
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>>169840846
>put on a flying mount
>now get 25% missile resistance
Its actually a pretty big deal, stack another 25% and hes basically immortal except for other flying units

Or you could just leave him on the ground and protect him that way.
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>>169840458
>Ywn hold the Fay Enchantress's hand
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I've not bought the TW:Warhammer from the humble bundle thing yet, considering buying it now but I'm worried I've left it too late.

The Humble monthly thing says that you need to cancel a week in advance to avoid being billed for the next month - with the TW:Warhammer deal ending in just over 1 day, is that too late to sub and cancel or does the monthly bundle not auto-sign you up for a renewable package initially?

I'd like the game for $12, but I'm a tad worried about being fucked by an auto-renew and paying a shitload.
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>>169841442

drop trip
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>>169840810
It completely removes all difficulty from the game and basically gives all factions everything
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>>169828693
How do you summon the manticore? I unlocked the spell but my it doesn't show up in battles
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>>169841194

Don't spoonfeed tripfags
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>>169841527
>shitload
>two months instead of one
>still saving money
Anon just buy the damn thing already
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>>169841442
It's cheap, yeah, but if you ever played a campaign on VH/Legendary you kind of need to abuse the AI to not get fucked over in the first 10 turns
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>>169841321
It might be just me here, but anything that lowers the success rate of enemy heroes is something I like to have. The missile resistance is obviously the better bonus though.
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>>169841527
Just buy it and cancel. It probably won't charge you, that's probably just there for contingencies
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>>169841442

So are unlimited range arrow towers that one shot grail knights.

This kind of range work are what trebuchets and longbows were for.
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>>169841660
Or you could be a smart person and just ignore the city entirely
>taking empire dirt when perfectly fine bret dirt exists
>not starting with Alberic
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>>169841648
Honestly didn't even notice there was a trip on
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>>169841778
>Alberic
>not a crappy generic lord
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>>169841648

I blame reddit, they're used to names and upboats
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WHY THE FUCK ARE THE AI SO USELESS REEEEEE, JUST HELP ME SIEGE MOUSILLON ALREADY AND FUCKING END THIS WAR ALREADY
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>>169827041
rollerino
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>>169841778
>Marienburg
>Empire dirt

???
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>>169841651
Oh shit, it's $12 every month isn't it?

I was thinking that was just a promotion for the launch of the system and it was going to be way more.
Worth it either way I guess.
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>>169841778
Marienburg harbor is essential for getting your economy going though, also why would I make war with fellow Brets?
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>>169841850
Hes literally the best starting bret lord. He generates absolutely ungodly amounts of money with his port + wine combo as well as his traits, is hidden away from Chaos bullshit until you confederate, his buff to foot soldiers is just stupidly OP and you can always claim the King later once you confederate and make him your main fighter whereas you lose the benefit of all the Alberic stuff if you do the other way around.

You also have an infinite number of vampires which you can safely farm forever to rank him up easily, as well as abuse the how many levels agents get from attacking towns to rank them up as well.
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Karl Franz the Based Emperor of mankind >>>> King of peasants Gayen Gayncoeur
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>>169841876

give them a war target
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>>169840485
From what i seen architecture of their cities, titualture (boyar, tzar), clothes and general feel is mostly russian.
The rest is mostly a single unit and only small addition.
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>>169842153
I have, they do absolutely fucking nothing but just sit there.
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>>169842061
>What is Confederating
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>169842220

>On turn 2
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What do you even do as the vampire counts? I fortified Sylvannia and expanded a bit into empire territory but their progression is so slow. Nobody wants to attack me even though I'm at war with half the map.

I want to fight serious battles not clean up after the chaos nerds or pick off weak empire settlements.
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>>169842226
I can't wait to kill all the Druchii as Skaven.
They won't be best anything when they're dead-slain.
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>>169842254
>Why would I make war with brets
>What is confederating
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it.
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>>169841876
>confederate Lyonesse just before sieging Moussillon
>get their armies on top of your Louen stack
>move on Moussillon immediately and beat it simply by attrition with your peasant hordes
>disband after battle
>you now have Moussillon and lost nothing of value in the process
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>>169842281
You get bored and reroll a different race

Vampire campaign is literally the worst campaign by far, they are far too strong and have no real enemies that can threaten them. Easiest Legendary campaign by far.
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>>169842220
>>169842254
The entire conversataion was about taking Marienburg super early, so how about you try creading comprehension?
You can confederate with Bordeleax only after like 20 turns
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>>169842281
Wander into their territory and find something to siege/encircle. They oughta send something after you
AI is terrified of stepping into vamp/chaos corruption. They'll just sit back and wait for you to slowly corrupt the entire map. I dunno if there's any mods to make them more aggressive
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>>169841660
Hey I'm not judging here, I mostly play on normal. You do what you gotta do when they A.I has all the cheats on their side.

>>169841761
True enough.

>>169841778
Marienburg is stupidly rich though, the harbor alone is worth the effort and the two regions that provide trade goods are just icing on the money cake.
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>>169842104
>He generates absolutely ungodly amounts of money with his port + wine combo
As opposed to Marienburg ports and their resources?

>hidden away from Chaos bullshit
Just means you can't carry out the Lady's will as easily as based Leoncouer, you coward.

>his buff to foot soldiers is just stupidly OP
Better infantry for a cav faction? Oh my.

>farm cheese
Absolutely unchivalrous, I bet you don't even worship the Lady.
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>>169842494

drop trip
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what the fuck how come my vassals can refuse a call to war?
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>>169842472
>easier than dorfs or beastmen

I find that hard to believe, honestly. Beastmen you just run around the map HUEHUEHUEHUEing while raiding and picking off weak cities/armies.
Dorfs you begin to turn into a super power really quickly and just confederate snowball the map while drowning your enemies in a sea of Dawi with all the gold you shit out
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>>169842351
>confederate Lyonesse
thats one hell of a fantasy, they're the middenland of bretonnia in every campaign ive started
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>>169842472
>Vampire campaign is literally the worst campaign by far
That's not Greenshits.
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>>169832573
>stop conquest of date after capturing iron-producing province so as not to trigger realm divide
>get a request from the shogun to pay tribute
>do it and shell out 2k to get on the shogun's good side
>as a result gain his favor and assistance in managing my domains
>use the newly gained influence to secure trade with the shoni, the only clan with access to cotton
>this cotton is an integral part in the training & arming of naginata samurai for some reason
>thanks to the new trade agreements and reduced maintenance penalties I am able to lower taxes across all my provinces while still making money, increasing economic growth in the long term
>the newly acquired iron and money are being put to use updating the weaponmaking capacity of sagami, where master sword and polearm trainers from across japan have gathered to assist in training our forces
>in our capital province a legendary bajutsu dojo has made use of the province's superb warhorses, leaving the rest of japan awestruck with the elite cavalry the Tokugawa can field
>all of this is being done with the the goal of overthrowing the ashikaga shogunate in mind
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>>169842475
The conversation changed, obviously that was too hard for you to comprehend. Sorry I thought you have a brain.
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>>169842178
Bro they're an amalgm of everything Slavic and Eastern Euro. There's no Orthodox vs Catholic distinction in the Warhammer fantasy world, no Slavic migration that splits into West, East and South Slavs. There are united Slavs in one Kingdom upgraded to a mix of Medieval to Early Modern tech & culture + magic.
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ELF STATUS: REMOVED
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>>169842498
>>He generates absolutely ungodly amounts of money with his port + wine combo
>As opposed to Marienburg ports and their resources?
Uh, yes. He gets 150% more from ports and his port gives more money than Marienburg twat.

Didnt even read the rest, you dont know what you're talking about.
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Why are they spamming us with free content again? doesn't seem right
also
>tfw vlad is no longer cucked
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>>169842785
>all those Dawi
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>>169842785

>removing a benevolent, lawful good faction
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Why does this shit always happen.
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>>169842672
>barge in on a conversation
>state something completely unrelated
>HURR TRY READING COMPREHENSION

Neck yourself, cunt
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>>169842684
They speak modern russian including swearing.
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kislevarin
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>>169842604
VC get free armies

In a game where 99% of your campaign presence is your stack size thats everything you need. You can literally autoresolve the whole game with vamps and be done in under a 100 turns even on legendary.

>>169842635
Orcs can at least be challenging, VC are not even a cake walk, its more like someone shoveling the cake down your throat for you.
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>>169842785
>you had to use all those armies just to create a living tower of dwarfs in order to reach the upper branches of the oak of ages & chop them down
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>>169842472
I'm gathering that. It's a damn shame too because I think the vamp units and lords are fun/interesting. I only really played older Total War games before this so a race with diverse monsters and no archer units is fresh to me.

>>169842604
It's ridiculously easy dude. The count campaign is listed as hard to start but literally all you have to do to become unbeatable is fuck over templehoof turn 2 and block the other vampires in so they can't expand. Then you just build up your strength a bit and go to war with them too and you're free to turtle infinitely in Sylvannia while you amass tons of gold and tech. Everyone is afraid to attack you because of corruption.
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>>169842858

Close your browser if you're running it
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>>169842869
Yeah look kid trying to reinvent what happened doesnt work when we can all see you sperged out.

No more replies for you, chill out and learn how to read before you post next time.
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>>169843015
But what should I do during 1+ min AI turns?
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>>169843045
>No more replies for you,
Outside observer eating porkrinds while laughing a drama, here.
Everyone reads that as you conceding. Ze Lady has your back, keep going.
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>>169842858
Congratulations you unlocked the new Total War; Cthulhu game

Your reward is eternal damnation in a sea of black glass and fog haunted by your misdeeds forever.
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>>169843045
The only sperg is you though, you literally started screeching autistically when you realized you were wrong.
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>>169843149
Arguing against someone so stupid they cant even follow two posts is not a good use of anyones time. But its going to be amusing to see him continue to sperg out over him being unable to read.
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>>169842684
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that they are mix. I'm just saying that russian influence in creating them seems to be the heaviest.

Anyway i'm too tired to discuss this now. Have a good night anons!
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>>169842858
I̳̭͕̤̝̩̪̥̭̖͇̳̩̪̦̠̅͆͒̈͋ͤ̔ͨ͐ͩͣ̑̅̏̑͠T̷̵͈̪͈̠͇̣̱̫̩͓̣̩̜̝̥͑ͪͦ̄ͩ̕͟͟'̧̢̲̲̼̥͕̺͍͉̭̯͔̰ͭ͒̿ͨ͑́ͪ̊̔̚S̢̧̭̣͔͔̬ͯ̇̒̐̿ͦͭ ̢̱̦͓̖̜̙̬̹̙̝̼͎͎̯̗ͦ̏̍̐̏̄̈̆͊̑ͫ̈̒ͮ̓́͘͢͝T̷̸͈͓̝̮͙̙̟̤̮̼̔ͩ̑̋̓̐ͨ͗͐̃̏ͣ̃͒̾̌ͩͭ͜͟͝ͅO̴̳̭̻͍͕̖̲͗̏̂ͬ̅͛ͬ̎̾ͬ̆͋̉̓ͮͣ̀̚ͅO̖͇̝̦͗͐ͩ̂̋͗̆̾͊̅̐̐͛̆ͩ͢ ͓͉̥͖̤ͤ͌͆ͮ͋ͩͦͫ̏̂̿̚͘͟͠Ļ̧̺̳̹̪̪̦̞̭̝̰ͤ͑̊̈̇́ͫͣ̊̀͂͗ͤ̆͘͟͝A̷̡̛͎̘̬̼͓͕̰̤͔͓͚̪̠͈̻̖̓͌́̾ͭ̀̓̉͂͟͝Ṫ̵̷̩̰̫͙̩̼̗̓̋̆̋ͅÊ̩̖̠̻͖̝̹͚̪̠̻̙͓̩͑ͩ͛ͤ̓ͯͤ͡͝ͅ
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>>169834775
surprisingly the best campaign ost in warhammer is chaos ost
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Thoughts on this mod, /twg/?
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>>169842858
>>169843175
Found a solution, go and make a save, when I start typing a name it becomes normal.
Thanks myself.

Happens all the fucking time.
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>>169843091

Turn off "show AI players moves"

And get an SSD

Its honestly still pretty slow but not 1+ minute slow
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>>169835609
>best from med2
>not lily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMIK7UY8z4
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So I've been starting a new game for each of the factions to see what (if any) differences are noticeable

LOVE what they've done with Gelt. He's finally got some badass skills to go with that badass voice. Amber Wizard still is god-tier, not sure about the others yet.

WELF and Beastmen feel about the same

Was just about to start a Dorf run

Is Grom still leagues above the other lords or did they nerf him?
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>>169843351
Haven't tried it, but it looks dope.
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>>169843351
It seems a bit to strong to me. The Bretonnia update seems to have improved some of the shitty traits, as well. Like armless now gives 3 defense to thew army.
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>>169843351

Looks good
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>>169843427

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>>169838598
>>169838790

They updated the map tools, and yes you just download them like any other custom map.

Pretty much you paint a zone on the campaign
map, if you have a fight in that zone game game loads in the map paired with that zone.
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Which total war other than warhammer do I get? I like the empire gameplay.
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Why did in-game Vikings become horsefucker armies? Norsca is all mountains and snow too. Horsefuckers need plains & steppes to ride and graze on.
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>>169843351

I just want a mod that gives the bretonnia thing about traits to every faction
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>>169843669

Fall of the Samurai for guns/cannons/swords extravaganza
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>>169838250
That's not fair, Ludwig didn't deserve what happened to him
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>>169843635
Have I been chosen?
THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEE
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>>169838129
Please reply.
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High Elf lore reads like shitty fanfiction, I haven't read something this crappy and marysueish relating to elves since I read Drowtales back in 2010

Total War Warhammer: The New World lords and start positions

Dark Elves
Malekith- Naggarond, his faction will be the Dark Elves proper
Malus Darkblade- the Blighted Island

High Elves
Finubar- Lothern, his faction will be the High Elves proper
Tyrion- Arnheim or Avelorn

Lizardmen
Mazdamundi- Hexoatl, his faction will be the Lizardmen proper
Tehenhauin- Chaqua. Will have special buffs to skinks who will otherwise be shit without Saurus and Kroxigor backing them up. Tehenhauin will be like Vlad and won't stay dead for long if you kill him because he's supposed to either be immortal or reincarnate when killed.

Skaven
Nurglitch- Quetza (this faction will be called Clan Pestilens, the proper "Skaven" faction will be in the old world at Skavenblight and only playable if you own both games)

Vampire Cunts
Luthor Harkon- Vampire Coast (only playable if you own the first game, him and the Skaven starting in the Old World will be "FLC" incentives to get people to buy the new game and get people who only wanted the new game to buy the old)

Morathi and Alarielle will be a LL DLC called the Queen and the Witch. Teclis will also be DLC.
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>>169843754
OUR HORSES LOVE BLOOD!

but really, no idea, maybe they are chaos horses that just don't need to eat at all, shame that they are pony sized and look stupid as fuck, especially when archaon is on one
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Fucking cunt had a second stack in ambush...but I have lighting strike!

Can't do without on legendary, you can get fucked by hidden encampents pretty hard
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>>169838129
>>169843874
He turns up somewhere after turn 100, after beating the first chaos horde which is around turn 50
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Why the fuck are the Mousillon vampires so fucking strong.
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>>169842326
>having to kill the lizards and vampires before marching all the way up to canada just to kill pointy ears

Also High elves would probably have declared war on you at that point because of aversion penalties.
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>>169843669
if you don't mind missing out on guns, most of the other games
if you will miss the guns Fall of the Samurai for Shogun 2 will have a good pile of em and the base game is nice to boot
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>>169828660

Aren't the merchants and craftsmen peasants tho?
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>>169842847
>not settling 4000 year old grudges

That's going in the book

>>169842959
That's also going in the book, faggot umgi
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/twg/ tell me your skill builds

I'm never really sure when I should invest in army buffs or just power up the lord. The only thing I'm sure of is a shitton of yellow for Grimgor
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>>169844038
>marching all the way up to canada just to kill pointy ears
>marching

Are you retarded, cunt-cunt?
We're Skaven, man-thing. We'd dig-dig our way up there.
This is why you surface-things are all going to die-die.
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>>169843485

>even suggesting nerfing the White Dwarf

GET THE BOOK

>>169844032

Because they're canonically supposed to be almost impossible to stamp out
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>>169843984
I stopped picking that skill in warhammer, it makes the game way too easy, takes all the excitement out of it, getting ambushed can be fun
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>>169843754
Because CA is bad at coding recruitment AI. If the endless marrouter horse spam bothers you, there's a few recruitment mods on the workshop that help with it.
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>>169844201
Does it even matter? Lords are going to be strong regardless of how you build them.

I usually go down the blue path first for the campaign map buffs and then go down one of the lord buff trees. Almost never bother going down the red path, tons of wasted points to get a few okay buffs for very specific units.
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>>169844032
They are not though? They never recruit anything better than Skeletons
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>>169840485
>next to fantasy scandinavia and the arctic
>hurr no russian influences

Kislev is northeastern europe, Border Princes is southeastern Europe. Bretonnia, Norsca, Marienburg and the Empire are Northwestern Europe. Tilea and Estalia are southwestern Europe.
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>>169844235
>Skaven will have underway stance
>in the new world

I hope CA remembers to name it "tunneling" rather than "underway"
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>>169844385
>to get a few okay buffs for very specific units.
you haven't actually read the descriptions have you? orcs, chaos and vamps have really strong buffs in their red trees, besides there is very little reason to do lord buffs since your lords end up being really strong anyway, and when you have 100 armour 15 more is pretty minor, its especially pointless on lords that don't get somethign like a griffon, besides with 30 points you can pretty much just get all the good skills
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>>169844532

They did for 'Beastpaths' so I imagine they will
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>tfw Alberic is only good for sitting in Marienburg and generating income

That skill was a mistake.
Also his red chain seems pretty sub-par compared to Louens
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>>169844618
The lord buff trees are less about the stat boots and more about the spells/abilities. I agree, the stat boosts are pretty marginal.

Getting those sweet healing spells on vamp lords is really nice though.
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>>169844201
If I'm playing as the empire or dorfs? I get the buff that increases melee and defense skill for basic melee infantry as soon as you can. For empire it's called honest steel, I don't remember what the dorfy version is named.

Other then that pick an equal mix of stuff from the three available trees. The priority though should be on campaign skills that increase money, and decrease unit losses through attrition and increase replenishment rate. Nothing wrong with having a skilled combatant for a commander, but he's nothing without an army with him and army will eventually fail without income for replacements and reinforcements.
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So where does Gelt figure on the chart now?
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>>169841876
Came here to post this.
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>>169844661
But the Skaven's capital will be in the old world so whoever is in charge of naming their grailway stance might fuck up
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>>169844167
>being a homophobic dwarf

you really shouldn't use that word in that manner, it might insult some of your more flamboyant kinsmen or ancestors
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>>169844861
I'd say high
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>>169844779
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>>169844861
Wish they'd stop buffing shit tier lords, pro players who need a challenge need an alternative.
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>>169844779
.when ur a fuckin bald mannlet AND objectively wrong
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>>169844861
mid-high

morghur needs to be thrown in at mid as well, and azhag can switch places with the geld prince.
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>>169828131
Lizards get tenenhauin, kroq gar and mazdamundi. Not sure who they would get later.

DE gets malekith, morathi, and probably malus with hellebron as dlc.

HE will have tyrion, teclis, and eltharion with alarielle as dlc. Alith Anar gets left out unless helves get vc tier favoritism, which is going to save instead.

Rats get thanquol and queek because they're the most well known, and probably nurglitch because he's the pestillens leader and they're the most active in lustria. Dlc will give us at least 2 more lls, maybe 3 so each great class has a guy.
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>>169844861
Azhag isnt shit tier

Hes Azhag tier, it goes below shit and its reserved for characters who are literally so shit they are not worth playing at all. In fact from now on anything thats awful in TWW should just be called an Azhag.

>making his ONLY gimmick a source of magic thats common as fuck but putting it behind a huge level and army wall he will not be able to complete until the games over anyway
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>tfw Wood Elves got completely fucking neutered
They are just sitting there for the entire game now or what? Time to end their cucked existence.
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>>169845187
>Not even mentioning his most damning trait
>>169829264
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The other day someone posted a good guide for starting moves as the empire, and I've gone back through like 7 threads and can't find it
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>>169845187
Azhag actually can kill many other lords thanks to some melee competence + spirit leech

I think Kemmler is a lot worse, because he barely is any better than a regular Necromancer lord
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>>169843881
>Finubar
BOOOORING
Why do High Elves have such dull leaders? Illegitimacy?
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>>169845190
They still wander out to fight things every once in a while, especially beastmen/chaos
Make nice with them, get an alliance, and throw them at your enemies over and over
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>>169845326
>no mounts

he is actually worse than a regular necromancer
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>>169845326

In a way Kemmler is worse because he doesn't get acces to the corpse cart.
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>>169845290
I've played empire once 6 months ago.
Go south, go west, then that harbor city.
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>>169844761
Build a brothel in Bordeuax and turn Alberic into a Slaanesh worshipper.
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>Do quest battle for empire
>Get a fucking lore of heavens shitter
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>carefully plan out campaign so as not to trigger realm divide before I am prepared
>vassal you created long ago as a buffer state captures a province somewhere, causing it to trigger
>they declare war on you immediately after doing so

you have got to be fucking kidding me
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>>169844861
he is strictly better than cuck franz now
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>>169844861
>kemmler and azhag still at the very bottom

l e l

And it's not even a close bottom either
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>Dragged into war against Moulisoun
>March down to smash some zambos
>Allied immediately peace out
>Moulisoun attacks my army with 2 full stacks
>Get massacred

Good game
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>>169845610
bull shit
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>>169845553
Alberic degenerating into a hedonistic merchant lord would be quite ironic.
I wish characters could grow fat from doing nothing
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Pox or fire for my peasant archers?
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>>169836804
I don't know why but I like PoM, he's just straight up loyal to Rome 1 and he hustles all day. Except I swear that fucker has never uploaded a loss, it's really weird.
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>>169844923
>dwarfs
>homosexuality

Dwarfs are either heterosexual or goldsexual, the idea of letting another dawi spray his love nectar in your beard... well it feels like it would be a grudgin'.
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>>169844861

>Mannlet

>God-tier

what.
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>>169845692
>I wish characters could grow fat from doing nothing
I mean they kind of fucking do.
Procrastinator is a fucking annoying perk, I just got it on a lord who was reinforcing after a hard battle. Fucking ridiculous
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>>169845437
Should I deal with the successionists first?
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>>169845384
>>169845397
Completely forgot about that

Yeah, Kemmler is useless trash
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>>169845749
Jokes aside mannlet is really one of the best LL's in the game
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>>169845749

While his campaign bonuses are meh, he's still one of the better if not the best lord in battles.
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>>169845153
Each race will only start with two LL

Neither thanquol nor queek will be available to Skaven starting in the New World because they aren't part of Clan Pestilens

The Skaven faction proper will be situated in Skavenblight and only playable if you own both games in order to "incentivize" people into buying both.
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>>169845595
>>169842639

>no diplomatic option to revoke their vassalage
>only way to prevent them from triggering realm divide is to declare war on them
>this gives me a -200 diplomacy penalty for breaking treaties

GODFUCKING DAMMIT I HAD THSI PLANNED OUT PERFECTLY I HAD TH ECOTTON FOR THE FUCKING DOJO I HAD THE FUCKING TIME TO PREPARE I HAD THE TIME TO RESEARCH AND RAMP UP THE ECONOMY FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK FUKCING COCSUSCKERS
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>>169845787
That's what you do/what I meant.
Go south and west kill those guys.
Then go further west declare some war, take harbor city.
Get a shit ton of gold.
Then go east or where ever you like.
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How would playing as him be like if he was in?
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>>169845664
>+10 armour for all units
>starts with a mortar and greatsword
>franz is much easier to unlock


>>169845709
fire vs elves and vc, pox is support and it makes no sense to have more than 2 pox archers, even one is enough with some micro
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BRETONNIA'S LORD IS SO FUCKING SHIT, REEE

WHAT DO I DO
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>>169845768
I somehow haven't gotten that trait ever, maybe becasue I'm only playing on Hard?
Louen has been sitting in Parravon for like 10 turns and he actually keeps getting positive traits. Maybe because I'm building stuff in that province almost every turn
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>>169845749
Memes don't reflect reality
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>>169845326
>+ spirit leech
OH BOY LETS JUST USE SPIRIT LEECH TO MAKE AZHAG GOOD

>Firstly you need level 8 which is going to take forever just to start the quest
>Then you need a shaman, which is a rank 4 building
>THEN you have to run that shaman all the way to the Chaos wastes for a FUCKING VAMPIRE BOOK
>And then you need an army this big or bigger and as if CA knew this quest was already enough bullshit the quest battle puts you ON YOUR LEVEL TWENTY ONE MOUNT just so you can complete it

I am so fucking mad about Azhag
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>>169845328
Finubar is the actual faction leader, there's no way he isn't going to be one of the two starting LLs

Also Finubar is canonically getting cucked by Tyrion since the Everqueen only has to fuck the Phoenix King for the first year of his reign until she gets pregnant with the next Everqueen and then she can fuck whomever she likes.
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>>169845913
Same kind of melee as Khazrak I would think
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>>169845827

I still have no earthly idea why they would bother including Kemmler without Krell

That's like if they put Skarsnik in the game without Gobbla
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>>169845943
Actually he is really fucking based. How about you git gud?
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A dwarf froce consisting of a lord, some long beards 4 thunderers and 3 cannons attacked this chaos force, forcing my garrison and this small force into the fight. Had i declined I would have lost the blessing. And I spawned behind the chaos army which allowed them time to mop up the dwarfs before returning. (i essentially fought the chaos force in 2 waves.

holy fuck those chariots were annoying to deal with.
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>>169845190
Wood Elves were never supposed to be a green version of chaos. They've been fixed, not cucked.
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>>169845943

Why

Why the fuck are there no Knights in your army?
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Alright I suck so bad at everythign involved in total war and I learn best by seeing it done.

Is there anyone who's uploaded videos to youtube? I'd search on my own but I don't want to wade through pages of hammy lets plays or something.

tl;dr: Anyone on youtube who's good at the game and has a tendency to explain things?
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>>169846229
died before, didn't have a chance to get them back just yet.
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>>169845913
CHARIOTS

>>169845959
But that's wrong
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>>169846246
heirofcarthage
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Can someone with wood elves take a screenshot of Athel Loren and post it please? I need the names of the wood elf settlements and don't have the DLC. Waiting for a sale.
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>>169846113
Forgot my pic.


But yeah at least 2 of those peasant mob kills were chaos chariots.
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>>169845943
>shitty mod units
>0 fucking knights
>"improved" loading screens
>can't beat skeletons with a LL
seriously, not even joking, uninstall the fucking game and go do something you're more suited to
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>>169846246
Party Elite has some tutorial videos which will probably help you.
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>>169846367
mod units, wat? I shouldn't have mod units
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>>169846424

The saturated yellow unit card and fire trebuchets aren't normal units, you got some mod on.
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>>169827041
Rolling Sweet Daddy
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>>169846246
Legendoftotalwar is good at scummy tactics and I've learnt some things from him. You can watch the beginning of his latest Bretonnia LP for some good insights
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Why can enemy armies flee on the campaign map after being defeated on the campaign map and how come I can't do the same?
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>>169846424
>ugly ass low res fucked up saturated color zweihander guys and on bretonnia no less
I guess fire trebuchets could be mistaken for a real unit fairly easily but come on
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>>169827674
*teleports behind you*
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>>169846424
I see 3 mod units in your screenshot
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Can you bring reinforcments to the final errantry war or should I just make 1 superstack?
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>>169846415
>>169846301
Thank you. I can't believe I forgot about heirofcarthage, and I'll give Party Elite a look as well.

>>169846531
I'm still trying to grasps Dwarves, but I'll do that too.
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>>169846675
You cant bring reinforcements to quest battles

Also, I hope you picked orcs otherwise you are in for a not fun time
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>>169846015
Could start the game with Finubar being murdered by Malekeith spawning a bloodletter, leaving the throne vacant for a struggle between actually interesting Helf lords and Delves, thus sidestepping the Finubar problem of:
>No special character rules
>No model
>No combat lore in a fantasy world designed solely for wargaming
>Being a boring background figure that never did anything interesting
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>>169846815
oh boy, dragon ogre doomstacks or what?
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>>169846246

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwVftHdWAdHNOJ-PMquSZMVVAGWIq2TVQ

Someone put this in the sticky next time
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>>169846675
You don't get to bring friends
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>>169845907
perfect thank you
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>>169846884
dragon ogre doomstacks
Sigvald jobbing like the shitter he is
Archaon getting fucked by you and your reinforcements
Sarthorael coming in and fucking your shit up
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When the hell are they going to update coop campaigns to have all the single player content. The extra starting events, actual fucking win cons, end game quest battles etc
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What is the point of the +3% income from settlements in this tech is bret settlements don't give any income?
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>>169846246
LegendofTotalWar especially for campaigns
TheMagnus good for multiplayer quick battles
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>>169845942
how do you unlock franz and can you still do is quests
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>>169845896
Lads I need advice how do I fix it

>No diplo options with vassal
>Faction I'm at war with won't accept peace no matter how one-sided it is in their favor
>No way to prevent the ai vassal from taking the territory
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>>169846884
You should be able to beat the chaos errantry war fairly easily with an elite army. But yeah, there will be a wave of Dragon Ogres with Kholek in tow :^)
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>>169846015
Finubar has no rules in the tt, no model for gw to push, and he have plent of options in their latest book unike the brets. He ain't making it.
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>>169847083
(as you can tell I just got this)
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>>169847126
Weren't Alberic and Ghorst no name shitters who only existed as flavor text?
I wouldnt really put anything past CA as an option
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>>169847217

You can always do quests for characters you recruit as long as they are an appropriate level.
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>>169846884
>you had the choice between fighting a bunch of goblins and terrible anti cav units and a faction with nothing but tough tanks and picked the tough tanks
RIP anon
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>>169847091
Break vassalage and ride out the penalties
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>>169846865
That's retarded. And you forgot about Alberic. Finubar is the king, CA will make a model for him.
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>>169847037
It means +3% from all buildings in those settlements. Its 3% more gold from everything that you build.
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>>169847371

So the LL choices will be Tyrion, Teclis and Finubar then?
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>Attila is a much better game than Rome 2 but it has less faction variety and no one wants to mod for it

Why is this allowed
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>>169845943
>Whole play style is about Horses and micro managment

I am garbage with calvary and even I knew Louen was fucking amazing. you need more practice
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>>169847531
Ancient Empires soon fellow sufferer
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>>169846563
You get one (1) retreat allowance per army per turn.
If you accept battle without retreating and lose, everyone who survives will retreat after the battle.
If you are attacked again after retreating in any way, and lose, your entire army dies
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Any difference between the three Bretonnian factions besides start position and lords? Do they still get the same quests?
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>>169847021
>>169847124
>>169847330
jokes on them, hope they like max vet grail everything, hippogriff main battle tanks, and royal pegasus attack helicopters
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>>169847340
>ride out -200 this late in the game

I can't, the main reaoson I haven't triggered realm divide is I need time and cotton in order to get the building w/ -1 recruitment time for naginatas in prep for realm divide. If I break the treaty and get that -200 I'm never getting another trade agreement and I'm on the other side of the map from the cotton trade node, not to mention I have no navy
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>>169847290
Alberic and Ghorst are in the game for the sole reason of being easy-fucking-peasy to make
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>>169847664
They all win the same way if thats what you're asking
>turtle for 100 turns then choose orc and win
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>>169847450

>Two Gary-Stus and a Literally Who

Great
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>>169847450
That, or Teclis will be FLC

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Malekith#Age_of_Sigmar

>Malekith becomes an Otherkin as a result of Age of Sigmar

kek
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>>169847531

Dark Ages are fucking boring as hell

Medieval III/Renaissance when?
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>>169847290
Ghorst was in the end times and late 8th ed stuff. He didn't make it into an army book but gw liked him enough to push him, and CA would loves vc. Alberic was mostly fleshed out in whfrp, and bets didn't have any better options.
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>>169846367
>"improved" loading screens
Fuck off there's nothing wrong with this mod
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>>169847796
>high elves

Why do they even exist, they're the worst of the three factions
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>>169847124
>dragon ogres
>relevant when half your army has anti-large

That's a laugh. Seriously, while the feel of the Chaos Errantry War was pretty good, it wasn't actually challenging in any way. Kholek and crew were even the easiest wave of them all.
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>>169847620
>Last update in 2016

It's never coming out.
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>>169847306
but then why do so many people say he is absolute shit in this thread
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>>169846656
>>169846367
>>169846491
>>169846621
quit the game to uninstall them, and I do not see any sort of modded units addon, it's all just visual effects, the only mod under "Units" is varied zombies.
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>>169848108

Are you referring to Franz or Gelt?

Because Franz has never been shit while Gelt has only recently become not shit
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>>169847620
God I hope so...
what was that other total overhaul that I think took place in the middle ages or something
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>>169848257
Medieval Kingdoms

It just released an update but it's still in the Never Ever cathegory
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>>169848108
Who, Gelt or Karl?
Gelt was shit because Lore of Metal was garbage and didnt really have anything going for him until he got that +10 armor for the entire faction
I dunno who's saying Karl is shit but he has some good starting units and even if you dont start with him he's a really strong fighter
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Who's the better LL for Von Carsteins? Vlad or Isabella?
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>>169846367
>"improved" loading screens
>nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking
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what are they doing?
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>>169847893
>implying CA gives a fuck
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>>169848594
raiding
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>>169848516

Vlad

Isabella has great buffs/debuffs but Vlad is a force of nature on the battlefield

They compliment each other perfectly
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>>169848594
Squig infestation
Wissenberg will be consumed in a matter of hours
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>>169848342
no i meant gelt. people were saying he was no better than a regular necromancer, but that +10 armour is awesome sounding. What's so bad about lore of metal?
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>>169848342

didn't they also buff Lore of Metal with the latest patch though?
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>>169848718
the +10 armor was literally patched in yesterday and lore of metal just got buffed
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>>169848594
They are just friendly refugees passing by anon.
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>>169848036
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where is lightning strike?
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>>169848718
They meant Kemmler's worse than a necromancer, not Gelt
Lore of Metal spells just didnt have enough of an effect but they improved it quite a bit with the new patch
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>>169848718
>What's so bad about lore of metal?
Nothing. Its just a meme shitters perpetuate. Metal was just mediocre before, but now it is amazing with the Bretonnia patch.
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>>169846343
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>>169847762
>turtle
how gay. I pushed back the snow niggers and repopulated Erengrad and that one settlement east of Ostland to be the shield of the Empire. I fended off 3 chaos stacks in total at Erengrad
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>>169845190
they're fixed not cucked
they attack who they're supposed to now
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>>169845943
>mod units
>not a single fucking knight unit
you're garbage
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>>169846343
>waiting for a sale

So you can save 2 whole dollars?
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>>169846865
He is going to have bromance with Karl Franz like in Age of Reckoning.
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>>169847126
>Finubar has no rules in the tt, no model for gw to push,
Setting is not supported by GW as whole for two years anon.
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>>169849306
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>>169842858
Disable the steam overlay for Attila.
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>all the vlad ring buff mods are outdated

lame
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Bretonnia start seems hard with them greenskins and that Marienburg. What do?
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>filthy seccessionist fuccboi about to get LANCE'D by chad knight of the realm
>2503 IC, colourised
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>>169846865
>>Being a boring background figure that never did anything interesting
He is notable because he is probably only elf that has respect for humans and cares about Empire and Old World.
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>>169849653
Rejoice
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>>169849653
Farm orks after getting the research that doubles your XP gains from them.
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>>169849681
>and then the end times lore said that all phoenix kings besides malekith and aenarion as well as tyrion were actually disgraced
>but then malekith also got cucked
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>>169847371
But the Bret special characters were neglected because Bretonnia was neglected. Helves are one of the most developed factions and a Mary Sue favourite of GW. They have loads of fleshed out interesting lords.

Finubar was underdeveloped by GW for a reason. He existed solely to be murdered by Maleketh to spark another Elf civil war for the Phoneix Throne between actually interesting and developed Elf lords.

Having Fin start off murdered would allow that, and overcome the Uthuan problem by making it an interesting place with competing Helf factions (with interesting lords) able to claim the throne and having to fight off already occuring Delf invasions.
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>1 turn away from being able to confederate with another faction as bordeleaux
>KING LOUIE GETS THERE FIRST

Made me wonder though, can Bretonian minor factions confederate with other factions if they research the skill they need?

Also playing as bordeleaux is kind of suffering. After Greenskin Incursions for the first 20 turns with no way of actually stopping them without pissing off other Bretonian factionsI have a level 14 Alberic but now that I've taken Marienburg he just has to sit there to generate an extra 1.5k gold a turn.
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>>169832573
>>169842639
>>169845595
>>169845896
>years of careful planning undone by the actions of one vassal clan
>hirotada's attempts to advance his clan's position through sheming and diplomacy are made worthless by actions outside of his control

Thats not even the worst part - that would be the fact that I have to create a fleet, sail over to the trade node furthest away from my current location, and occupy/hold the trade node all so I can build a building that reduces recruitment time for my main-line infantry unit

note that realm divide is triggered during the ai vassal's turn
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>>169849858
Fuck off with the end times shit already faggot
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>>169845913
Like another vampire faction.
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>>169827041
rollyo
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>>169849653
Here's how I just did it;
I moved 1/2 of Louen's movement and encamp while still in my turf, then got rid of your peasant mobs and got 3 man-at-arms.
With that, next turn I made a b-line for the orcs and razed their town. If you have a "settle anywhere" mod, you need to raze it then colonise it or you'll have that fucking terrible greenskin control penalty. Stupid bug.

Marienburg kept it's nose out because I took very little casualties in the fight. I made the orcs run in circles chasing my cav for a while while trebs rained on them. Good shit. I immediately ran over the marienburg with my battered army and put them under siege, building a second peasant army (and going over the peasant cap) at my capitol and running them down to Louen to reinforce him by merging all the groups he had together.

After that, I kicked my feet up and started playing politics while Marienburg was sieged down. Started rubbing elf elbows and opening trade routes with anyone who would listen.
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>>169848516
Depends, you get both on turn 2 so it's just a decision between starting with the better army or starting with 2 vampire heroes (which isn't as amazing as the ghost dwarves since they only give growth or in battle wizards and you can recruit 2 after you take Drakenhof)

Also after playing 40 turns of playing Isabella she makes Vargheists good with them actually having armour and boosts to charge and melee.
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>>169847531
>no one wants to mod it

Are you kidding me? It's probably the most modded game besides Medieval 2. Once AE and 1212 are finally out you will be able to play from 202bc until the late 15th century in a single game only leaving out roughly 900-1000AD.
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>>169849653
Take both out by turn 4 turn 6 for 2nd wasteland town
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>Lyonessa likes me
>I have military superiority over Lyonessa
>he has NEVER gone yellow, let alone green, for confederation

THIS GUY!
He and the Footfag Enchantress are the only two realms left to unite, and he only has ONE (1) CITY!
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>>169850483
I know your pain
>>169842612
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>>169850483
Are you allied to him in any way? That shit will mess with confederation, ironically enough. He thinks he's stronger in relation to you than he actually is because of his alliance to you.
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>>169850483
Forgot pic in my autistic shitfit
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>>169849681
So he's a cuck for humans as well as a cuckold for Tyrion?
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>>169850047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxWkfJ4uvV0
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>>169850647
Yeah, fuck. I guess I should unally with him.
I thought he'd need my help against the Red Duke so I backed him up, time to be unchivalrous, I guess.
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>>169849653
Wipe out orcs by turn 2 or 3 then just wait until marienburg attacks you. If you wipe out their army you can probably get a peace treaty which is what I did. Then go kill zombos
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>>169850776
Breaking alliances doesn't affect chivalry, afaik. The Bretonnians are apparently fine with some realpolitik now and then.
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>New mission: Declare war on all of Brettonia to gain +10 reputation with MARIENBURG
Not today Schlomo
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>>169850914
Bah, war does, though.
Lyonessa still doesn't want to confederate, but I'm going to chalk that up to him being backside blasted about me breaking our alliance.

Footfags joined the fold, now we just need Lyonessa to stop being an edgy rebel and the world can REJOICE
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>>169851084
Hand the guy some gold or something. Might smooth things over.
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>>169851084
Look at it this way, his only ally is you.

Who's gonna miss him when he gets conquered?
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>>169850065
Your king's a cuck and is going to get his shit pushed in
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I love how you can anvil with just Bretonnian cavalry. On the left half I deploy Grail Knights and on the right I deploy Grail Guardians, so I just charge them all and when the wing that the knights charged collapes, they just charge right and envelop the enemies engaged with the guardians.
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Am I missing something or can Bretonia not build walls around their settlements?
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>>169851470
Minor settlements get walls at level 3
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>brets don't get access to lore of light

Imagine how brutal a grail knight charge augmented by birona's timewarp would be
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>>169851234
>>169851193
>>169851084

Boy he really wants that Alliance.
Maybe you could ACTUALLY JOIN OUR FACTION and we could be perma-allies you stupid CUNT

By the Lady, excuse my not-French. I don't know what came over me.
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>playing empire as gelt
>louen seiges mairienburg right away
>louen at rank 2
>holy shit hes actually going to kick ass
>10 turns later
>have reikland just about finished up
>loeun SACKS the jew city of infinite gold
>i swoop in and take it for myself
>30 turns later
>louen as irrelevant as ever

oh CA
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>>169827041
rol
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>>169851620
"let us make gilles proud"

You should recruit the Green Knight (gilles) and send him to fuck Adalhard in his aristocratic boypussy for not wanting to confederate for the good of Bretonnia
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>>169851084
For me it was Bordeleaux who just didn't want to confederate. There's awlays one like that
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>>169851620
I had this problem. I had super green with everyone and techs but no confed.

Start raiding the norscans or fight other groups and build chivalry. It took me 2-3 bars of chiv to get confederation
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>>169847449
Are you sure? They make that distinction with skills like the 15% all buildings in region, and I'm pretty sure VCs have a tech that gives +% income from towns only too.
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>>169851739
>fuck Adalhard in his aristocratic boypussy for not wanting to confederate for the good of Bretonnia

It would be simply uncivilized to attack another Bretonnian faction, no matter how rebellious.

>>169851749

Considering Bordeleaux was starting shit with Parravon and Bastonne really early, I expected them to be a problem as well. Alberic was actually quite ready to join us, the confederate option was green. First one I got on green. Parravon was actually harder, they sat on yellow and rejected for a few turns before I brought Bordeleaux and my military superiority convinced them.

>>169851841
A good idea. My Unification tech is about to come through, I could go start raiding the norsemen and buy the Empire some time to grow in strength before Archaon shows up.
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Sooooooo Skaeling somehow managed to get Passive and Defensive traits in my Bretonnia Very Hard campaign.
I'm 50 turns in and I haven't seen a single Skaeling steck sailing in my direction.
Does that mean it should be safe for me to fuck up some Greenskins?
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>Gelt gets +10 to armor for all units in every army

I mean Lore of Metal still fucking sucks but he's without a doubt the best starting lord now for the Shitpire.

>Greatswords now have 105 armor

This feels right. It all just feels right now.
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>>169847969
What are you even on about? High elves are the AMERICA of warhammer
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>>169852076
NO

You should tech into the anti-norsca decrees and pre-emptively crusade those herring-eatin', coast raidin', goat fuckin', chaos worshippin' snowniggers
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>>169827041
ROLL
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>when the game gives you a good trait

R E J O I C E
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>>169852139
The armour buff spell also got improved, you can get Flagellants with 70 fucking armor
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>>169852010
I had everyone confederated except the fey enchantress, I had to start a war she was in with the wood elves. Bomb two of their cities than suddenly she was yellow and ready to mingle
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>>169851470
you can build walls
and you get walls by default at level 3 settlements
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>>169851509
But the level 3 garrison doesn't say it builds walls for bretonia when it does for other factions.
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>>169852304
>70 armor

thats nothing
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Is Louen a good fighter? Is it worth investing points in his combat tree?
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>>169852259
you can get so much fucking chivalry and good traits in the first 20 turns. By like turn 40 in my first Bretonnia campaign Alberic got that trait where you never route due to winning over 90% of like 20 battles along with like 5 other good traits.
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>>169851084
>>169851620
I've found that dragging them into a war helps.
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>>169851620
Why not take it? you will be able to confederate a few turns later. I literally always have a military alliance with someone before I confederate them. Every single time. Works like a charm.
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after playing grand strategy for a while and then playing tw warhammer, I forgot how much easier it is to conquer stuff in total war

started with the vampire king start which is apparently the hardest start on hard difficulty, turn 11 I had the vampire kingdom reunited and ready to conquer the mortals.
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>>169845746
yeah but when you pin them and pound into them after that it feels like settling that grudge
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>>169853432
according to >>169850647, our alliance was the reason Lyonessa wasn't willing to confederate, since it was counting our collective strength.

Idk if that's true or not, but I'm almost willing to take the chivalry penalty to put him in line.
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>Warhammer 40K made me hate Orks
>In Fantasy they are way better but still have a bad impression about them
>idea, play them ironically listening to Smash Mouth
>actually have the best fun since months
I'm ashamed of myself but at the same time I think I should do this kind of shit more often
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>>169853705
Can't say I've ever run into that problem or even heard of it so I don't know how true it is.
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>>169853904
>Warhammer 40K made me hate Orks
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Playing as Brets and I took Grung Zint, but the Incursions haven't stopped. Why is that?
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>>169854205
I know that I shouldn't take Warhams seriously but Orks are too cheesy even for it. Also the esthetics of the faction are terrible, a bunch of junk on some green-puke Gormitis
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AN OLD FRIEND SNEAK PEEK
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Post patch gelt empire run truths:

>greatswords are overpriced for what they are and what they do, and you're almost always better off taking cheaper inf or knights instead

>free company make early game a face roll, and only become outdated vs chaos or dorfs

>Jesus Christ handgunners are awesome, they can wipe out anything chaos has if you use knights to keep them safe. They slaughtered chosen like goblins

>luminark is a downgrade from great cannons

>middleheim and nuln are the best recruitment provinces

>gelt is now fun, lore of metal feels balanced and appropriately powerful
>>
>try playing multiplayer
>first opponent is an empire player who runs double light wizards for net and corner camps with artillery and crossbows
never again
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>>169854704
haven't played in a while, lore of metal are restricted to gelt and the chaos birdman of change thing right?
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>>169854929
Chaos can get metal wizards too, in addition to big bird and gelt
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>>169854543
they last for 20 turns.
>>
Childhood is when you idolize the high elves

Adulthood is realizing Beastmen make more sense
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>>169854704
What makes Free Company good? I have always ignored them completely.
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Are ethereal units a good choice against chaos?
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>>169855108
no matter what you do?
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>>169854893
>corner camping in multi.

absolute scum that guy was. But its better when you can out deal that. either when you have superior artillery or when you just magic him to death yourself. Check the corners. Some maps have vanguardable corners if some one corner camps you can vanguard some units in their back lines. most noobs who cornercamp don't know this and if you kill his gunners/artillery his army is nothing.
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>>169855207
They have the numbers of swords men, better melee capabilities than spear men, and are about half as good in a ranged fight as crossbowmen.

In practice this removes the normal infantry vs infantry bloodbaths of the early game, as your full stack of free company form a firing line and slaughter the enemy at range.
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>>169855108
mine ended right after I razed their settlement on turn 3
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>>169855473
yeah, and its a good thing. Let them spawn and kill them. Get your louen out of the city so that they spawn faster so you can kill them more get some skill points. I mean what knight doesn't enjoy hunting orcs.
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>>169855207
Free company do really well against early game Swordsmen and spearmen, even with shields reducing their damage somewhat. Vanguard lets you get them into flanks and unlike Crossbowmen if they get into melee for some reason they can hold their own.

I love Free company early game as empire.
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>>169853904
So when the Ogres get released it's probably going to go back to sucking for you then?

>>169854565
Son, you might have the 'tism
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>>169855416
No because they don't pack a punch. Bring Grave Guard with Greatweapons, Blood Knights, Mortis Engines and all that good shit
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>>169855636
>not bribing Isabellas Air Force to kill the fucking hellcannons

Get it together anon
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>>169855636
What do you mean? Isn't being armour-piercing good enough?
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Walach Harkon Legendary Lord for Von Carsteins when?
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>>169854565
>being this much of an autistic and wrong snob
>play them ironically listening to smash mouth
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>>169855508
>>169855583

Alright, thanks lads. I want to give based Gelt a try anyway so I will give them a chance too
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>>169854632
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Luthor_Harkon

VAMPIRE COAST CONFIRMED
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>>169848897
thanks, are there any settlements to the south of king's glade?
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>>169855858
No problem friendo. But yeah, give them a try. Until the enemy starts rolling out armored units, free company and Stirlands revenge will pump out a shit ton of damage. Early game I get more kills with them than I do anything that isn't Reiksguard or Karl.
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>>169855853
Hopefully not for a long time

Other factions need love.

Like turn Boris into a real Legendary lord with a starting position.
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So what are the Bretonnia meta-units?
Should I be taking something like 2 trebs, 2 archers, and 4 squires and 2 shielded pikemen for peasants and like, 3 Grail knights, 3 Grail guards and 4 Royal Hippo/Royal Pegasi?
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>>169855804
Chosen will eat wraiths for breakfast
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>>169855804
No, the only things you need vs chaos are:

Combat species lords

Grave guard w gw
Blood knights
Vargheists to kill the hell cannons
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>>169856102
Footies, Both mounted grail cavs, royal pegasus/hippo knights whatever they are, those guys are great.
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>>169856102
You should have at least 4-5 archers and you need more bodies for the meatgrinder so you can hammer it out.
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About to start a beastmen campaign, which LL should I take?
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can anyone point me to a mod for Attila AoC that unlocks all minor factions? I want to play as the Kingdom of Kent, and I can't find an obvious one on the web or workshop.
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>>169856474
Morghur is your best LL.
Khazrak if you want someone serviceable.
Malagor if you hate yourself
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>>169856642
I thought Devolve was useful again?
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>>169856689
You can get Bray shamans elsewise and spam devolve, Malagor just starts out in the badlands which is a fucking terrible starting position imo. You fight against orcs, who aren't too bad, and Dwarfs, which I never enjoy fighting as the meme men.
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I fucking hate fighting chaos.

I can't catch anyone and they beeline cities with 4 fucking stacks.
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Is it possible to rush marienburg as louen?
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>>169857015
Yes if you git gud
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>>169854632
>>169855859
>vampire pirate horde faction

>>169855508
>>169855583
Do they benefit from honest steel and pistol korps?
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>>169857053
They benefit from both!
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>>169857015

Yes, just stop being terrible. Siege with your peasant as normal, open a wall with your trebuchet on the right and go in with cavalry. Fire the trebuchet on enemy archers and keep buffing your peasants with your Damsel.
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>>169856642
>>169856787
Furries are my fave faction but I fucking hate playing siege. Too bad their campaing is 90% sieges against faggots turtling in their capitals, the fact that the Goatfuckers have such low armour make it even worse. Some advice?
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Why THE FUCK don't brets have any agents that can block armies? Everyone just sets themselves to match stance and I can never catch up.
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>>169855130
afterlife is when you learn to value the blood kiss
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>>169857306
Cygors and Minotaurs are my best advice. Just bash your way into a keep and slaughter everything you can.
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>>169857413
Transcendence is when you realize eating is all that matters
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>>169857121
>Elector count status: Summoned
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>>169857131
woah dude chill the fuck out im not talking about the actual battle, im just asking if you can make it there quickly, only been playing alberic so far
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What do you guys run on wood elves for orion? I feel like I should have treemen or dragons but the amber cost is a little bit of a turn off.
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>>169857542
Bretonnia can siege Marienburg as early as turn 2
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>>169857053
>horde

Naw, they'll have a province in Lustria and get bonuses to attacking from the sea

Now that I think of it CA should add in trade lanes so you can raid the high seas
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>>169857592
hot damn
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>>169857349
A better question is why people can do forced march over multiple turns. What are the downsides of forced march supposed to be exactly?

It should only be limited to like 1 forced march before they have to stop and rest for a turn in order to stop the AI from constantly abusing it.
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Anyone got a link for an existing version of Age of Britannia for the AoC expansion? if so, how can I go about unlocking most or all of the minor factions for it?
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>>169857801
They should at least receive attrition when force marching throught enemy territory.
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>>169857801
>What are the downsides of forced march supposed to be exactly?

A vigor penalty and the inability to attack on the same turn as a forced march.
Which means fucking nothing.

>>169857897
I'd agree with that. That would also give military access more value.
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>>169857512
>That really summoned my electors
I want to give Empire a try but their starting position is so incredibly shitty and I'm so terrible at Total war games that it's really hard to keep up the drive.

>>169857801
It's pretty annoying to constantly see Thorgrim's gigantic army zooming about the place like he's on crack while I'm trying to krump some stunties as Grimgor that's for fucking certain.
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>>169855859
Walach Harkon is the progenitor of the blood knights actually
The unit will actually shout "walach!" on occasion
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Which campaign should I do after the Dwarfs, as far as difficult is concerned?
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>>169858519
Empire so you actually feel threatened early game.
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>>169858319
And Luthor is his cousin and the progenitor of the vampire pirates
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I'm downloading radious for warhammer.

How do you guys feel about this?
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>>169858987
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>>169858987

Come on anon, you already know.
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>>169858987
this action does not have my consent
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>>169858987

>>169840936
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>>169858987
>>
So apparently Kislev has unique Provence commandments? Think that means CA might have something in mind for them besides being "Empire unit country thats not the Empire"?

Were they were playable on the tabletop?
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>>169857801
Are there any mods that actually fix it? The only ones I could find just removed forced march or raised it's initial cost. Both of which are stupid changes.
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>>169858987
In the book.
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>>169858987
Why the hate for radious?

Don't know anything about it
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>>169859507
It gives every faction every tool and tends to lack balance
Its fun at first but eventually you realize that all the factions now feel the same and it stops being interesting
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>>169858987
I loved DeI

Are you guys memeing me about this radious mod too?
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which greenskins faction is best
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>>169860115
TRUE WARLORD OF 8 PEAKS
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What dlcs should I buy, or do I need any at all?
Any that add amazing unit depths or anything?
The elves/furrymen are still on the map even if I dont buy the dlc right, just can't play them?
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>>169860183
Yes, to the last question.

Blood and gore, and King and the warlord are the 2 i'd recommend on a budget.
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>>169860183
Blood and gore
Kang and warlord
Grim and grave

If on a budget, the first two.
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>Crusade all along the cost razing every barb camp I saw stopping only to rest and resupply and finally the objective is in sight soon the bretonnian marines will charge from their tall ships and bring the war to the chaos.
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>>169857801
use ambush stance, where you lay your ambush on the campaign map matters. Even if your ambush fails they might not spot you and move into range of your army allowing you to catch them.
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>>169860282
>>169860282

Ah, I can see why. I have the chaos pack from release anyways and only played about 15 hours after release.
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>>169860420
You know you can teleport there right?
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>>169860483
its the principle of the thing
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>>169860483
Wheres the fun in that?
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>>169860483
You actually cant teleport to the errantry war
Gotta hike across the entire map and slowly push through the chaos wastes that destroy half of your units each turn
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>>169860483
Not with the errantry war battles.
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>>169860553
>>169860573
Alright, I admit, if you enjoy marching up there and slaying every norscan scum in your path, that's probably even more fun than most things in the game.
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>>169857306
Make a horde with just a few units and use it as bait to lure stacks out of walls.
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>>169827041
Rollerino
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Whats the best bretonnia faction?
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>>169861137
Bretonnia
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>>169858737
Also 2bh if CA sold a "vampire pirate faction" DLC for 5 bucks once the second game comes out I'd buy it for the reskinned pirate zombies and shit.
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Am I meant to destroy Empire as Bretonnia or am I doing it wrong?
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>>169860595
Wasn't there a tech that removes attrition from corruption for the Bretonnians?
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>Trying to siege lategame settlements with walls as Bretonnia
Kill me senpai. I don't want to run Trebuchets
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>>169861438
It stops snow attrition, not chaos attrition
I think the chaos wastes are a separate thing anyway
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Just usethe link below Ill get a bonus from referring :)
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>>169861412
You benefit more by keeping them alive to trade with because your economy is all farmland.
Just go takeover Estalia and Tilea if you want to fight humies
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>>169842858
>Tengrism
Religious builds have no bonuses at all, convert.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=866743542&searchtext=
I downloaded this campaign overhaul and it completely unlocked chaos for me even though I don't have the dlc.

Am I going to prison?
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>>169827041
roll
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>>169861843
Did it specifically unlock Warriors of Chaos? Skaeling/Varg are separate
Either way its probably no big deal
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>>169861412
You're doing it wrong.
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>>169861970
It unlocked "Horde of the Ever-Watcher"
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What faction do I play if I want to battle a lot, but also manage an economy? Chaos/beastmen are fun but I miss the feeling of expanding my empire when I play them.

Can't seem to find the right balance. Going empire and pissing everyone off seems to work okay.
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>>169862023
Still separate. Should be fine
You're still getting access to chaos units but I dont think they could check you for this kind of thing, let alone ban you
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>>169862116
Idk the economic aspect of the game mostly exists to fund the warfare aspect.
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>>169862116
Dwarfs. Just get hyper aggressive against Urk and Grobi.
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>>169860420
wew, tough fight.
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>>169862507
>literally have to fight all of Chaos

CA is really stepping up their quest battles
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>>169862507
How the hell do Alberic and the meme knight have 0 damage?
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New:

>>169862692
>>169862692
>>169862692
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>>169862635
it was a pretty great fight, Glad I didn't spoil myself. I kinda hate how people show off quest battles. I'd rather blunder into them with the few clues they leave. Also for the first 5 minutes of the battle archaon tried to chase some mounted yeomen around the map. I laughed.

I also liked how each army was themed.

>>169862687
MAGIC, but seriously lore of life damsel with all magic and arcane conduit and forbidden rod. just keep cast low level spells with life bloom and earth blood. My missuse of regrowth is why i have so much damage taken on my knights.

They were both on lord duty too. though alberic was charging while the green knight was just tanking it out.
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