/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>169819254
based

>>169819254
W&B

>>169819254
White&funny

>>169817806
>playing such an early start date in a game that doesn't represent it well
why

>>169819574
Why not

The latest DDs
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-43-an-expansion-should-not-travel-alone.1001889/

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-28th-of-february-2017.1001995/

>>169819254
ABSOLUTELY BASED, FUCK ANIMETARDS!

Oh good, a real thread.

>>169819645
Because it doesn't represent shit properly
Play a CK2 mod or something or play EU:ROME

Join the official discord

What will be the theme of the next EU4 expansion besides golden ages? What's the name anyway and when it will be released?

>>169819872
send link pls

>>169819254
White.

>>169819254
Mongoloid & acidic

>>169819812
This

>>169819928
Ask James Reed

>>169819812
>implying ck2 represents the period properly either

>>169819254
Caucasian and Magnificent

alex are you here?

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>>169819254
La Plata

>>169820332
what ya need senpai?

>>169820424
fuck off nigger

>Finally religion will stop being a binary state and people will be able to hide their true religion
It only took 5 years for this. Maybe in the next century you won't be able to immediately tell if someone's gay

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>USA and Britain fighting a proxy war over the Brazil/Peru border in 1888
>Fighting also breaking out along the northern US border with British Canada
>Tiny Nordics banding together to fight off all the countries with red, white, and blue tribands as flags and actually winning

Now there's something you don't see every day. And thanks to the nordics my tiny shithole will probably survive France attacking me.

>>169820689
Why is france attacking you?

Does anyone have the full Alternate Flag Pack image with all the flags

>>169820806
AI will justify shit against you if it hates you.

>>169820869
Download the thing and just see it

>>169820883
Why did you let a GP hate you?

>>169820689
How did you become independent?

What's the best way to become a republic as a Latin American presidential dictatorship?
Should I just start a war and let myself be occupied to generate militancy for reforms?

Based mods deleting the troll thread.

>>169820806
>French Colonial Conquest of Baltic Bas-Congo

I think they started the war because I was involved in two other wars at the time, because they have a neighboring colony, and because we had terrible relations.

>>169820883
They don't even need to justify because all the GPs got Place in the Sun against me when I annexed the Congo

>>169821095
Rebellion for independence

Reedgruppe blow the FUCK out

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Recently learned that naval tradition gives trade steering so I added that.

>>169821095
Cheating

>>169821241
No cheating. It's not even hard, try it yourself. You just sit in your comfy little baltics building industry while waiting for Russia to get overrun by rebels. Then you just let rebels siege your own capital while Russia is too busy to save the Russian-backed government.

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>play V2
>get attacked
>400 000 v. 1 000 000 -> 200 000 v. 100 000
Every fucking time.

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I am the individual who made the other thread. I am not a member of any groups outside this general, and my personal opinion on external communities is that they are cancerous by principle; if we're going to have a community then it shouldn't need other little communities attached to it which inevitably become their own thing.

I just hate how verbose the OP is and I hate how /gsg/ unironically has a fucking shadow government.

>>169821617
ANIMETARDS BTFO! GLORY TO R&I!

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>>169821617
You basically just have to deal with it. R&I is a newfag at that, but an autistic one.

>>169821617
>I just hate how verbose the OP is and I hate how /gsg/ unironically has a fucking shadow government.
Keeping the obese OP is useful because it helps make the thread instantly recognizable.

A lot of the links in the greentext section are probably useless and could be condensed, but they aren't hurting anyone. Keeping the recognizable OP image (or at least recognizable variants of it) is something I'd say is important though.

What do you mean by a shadow government? Are you referring to steamgruppen or to R&I? Because you should know that R&I doesn't exist. There is just a bare majority of people here who have independently arrived at the conclusion that the only way to keep the thread going is to stick to convention. I'm definitely not "R&I" and yet when I post the thread I follow those conventions exactly, just to avoid added drama.

>>169822106
>recognizable
>recognizable
>recognizable
not him but are you fucking retarded? just search "/gsg/", why would anyone NOT do this

>>169822106
Fuck off, no other fucking generals have this level of OP drama, all these things you've just said apply to every other thread and yet somehow they're not issues to them

Our problems are artificially created

>>169819254
Reminder to report spam.

>>169822106
the drama only comes when Alex and the grandicorps have an austism attack because someone added a mod they don't approve of into the OP.

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>>169822106
>Keeping the recognizable OP image (or at least recognizable variants of it) is something I'd say is important though.
Why? No other general does it. We have a thread title. The retarded warning is worthless, shitposting gets reported anyway whether or not it comes from reedcord or somewhere else.

>I'm definitely not "R&I" and yet when I post the thread I follow those conventions exactly, just to avoid added drama.
So you create threads 20+ posts early and slot in a retarded post? The funny thing is that on the rare occassions where no second thread is made, the first thread is generally quality, without shitposting...

>>169822307
The only time we have OP drama is when someone tries to change the OP.

Stop fucking complaining about it and there will be no drama!

>>169822237
That's what I do, and when I see four threads, I look for the one with a big black rectangle and fewer than 700 posts. I know the ones with anime images are troll threads.

>>169822106
Just ignore the shitposters lad, no use in arguing with them.
They just want to create drama.

>>169822443
>the first thread is generally quality, without shitposting...
who do you think you're fooling?

>>169822443
>shitposting gets reported anyway
No it doesn't.

>>169822478
>I look for the one with a big black rectangle and fewer than 700 posts
Why? Just use the thread that was made first, or even better, let the thread get to page 10 before making a new one and sperging out when it doesn't have a 'big black' thing in the OP

memesupreme are you here

>>169822106
Wait a sec do people actually believe that posting "Reminder to report and ignore shitposting" is actually going to reduce the amount of shitposting?

This is some next level delusion

>>169822106
>Keeping the recognizable OP image (or at least recognizable variants of it) is something I'd say is important though.
Which is why you use the fucked up R&I version.

>>169822478
>The only time we have OP drama is when someone tries to change the OP.
How long have you been here?

>That's what I do, and when I see four threads, I look for the one with a big black rectangle and fewer than 700 posts
1. It should be "fewer than 750"
2. usually there are like six threads up, all with the rectangle.
3. why the fuck are anime image threads "troll" threads? Who the fuck is trolling you?

>>169822583
Have you actually gone into those threads (OP image or not) on the rare occassions when there's no second thread? The lack of "reminder to report and ignore shitposting" in those threads doesn't harm the quality of the thread. ONLY when there's a second thread made is it full of "This is the Steamcord thread".

>>169822643
>posters are fucking retards who need to be "reminded" to report posts by a person who's been here for less time than half the posters in this thread
Reminder that R&I was conspiciously absent a couple of years ago and that the OP image wasn't a thing on /v/ or early /vg/.

Weebs who add unrelated images to their posts must be stamped out.

Lads, I'm gonna start a new campaign in eu4, what achievement should i go for?
have these: http://pastebin.com/1eZjyW0k
Haven't bought RoM yet but have the rest

>>169822106
>r&i doesn't exist
is this bait

>>169822845
It's R&I. He admits he's the one who made this thread. He posted it after he wrote up his reminder, and after another thread existed.

>>169822816
Stop lying, you nigger.

>>169822990
No arguments?

>>169822787
The R&I post is just a meme. It's shitposting, but far less annoying than the autistic shrieking fit that you fags are throwing about it now.

I'm just talking about making the OP "Grandi StratREEDy General - Liqqy diqqy doo!" and posting some fucking anime shit as the image, which is exactly what would happen if there stopped being a "traditional" OP.

>>169823047
>some fucking anime shit as the image
Like what literally every fucking other general on /vg/ does?

>>169823047
>The R&I post is just a meme
Yeah which is why it's always present in the thread before it's even posted as a link to the previous thread and why OP always makes a thread 20+ posts early, which is not done even on the fastest of generals which wait until page 8-9, nor on slow ones which post the new thread as the 750th post or try to.

>>169823098
Go post in those generals then

Not everyone who plays gsg wants to "meet your waifu" or whatever, fag
Are you literally incapable of leaving anime out of everything you do?

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>>169822827
>achievements

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>>169823220
bitchboy it doesn't have to be anime. Pic related would work on /twg/. /gsg/ could simply post a picture of some historically important or iconic event. You're autistic about an infopic nobody reads, and autistic enough to repeatedly change it. Don't think anyone forgot your autism trying to kick DH out.

I just don't see why we can't have the OP image by a historical photo. I've tried multiple times to make a new thread with an image based off of the This Day in History stuff, but it just gets instantly ignored and deleted.

>>169823213
I never post the thread early unless someone else tries to and ends up screwing it up (wrong date, no subject line, changes the title to something without "/gsg/" in it, etc.)

About half the time I make a jokey R&I post myself, sometimes verbatim "reminder to report and ignore shitposting" and sometimes a tongue in cheek variation. When I don't, someone else usually does. It's not a fucking conspiracy m8

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Stop posting anime.

What's the best EU4 unit comp

>>169819254
WHITE

BASED

>>169823406
>Don't think anyone forgot your autism trying to kick DH out.
Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

The only game I think should be banned from this thread is EU4, but I know I'm in the minority on that one so I've long since given up on it.

>>169823360
>faglords
They give a nice goal and bragging rights, I like them!

>>169823454
>I never post the thread early
You shouldn't post the thread early fucking period, report the other thread for being early.
Now if the title is wrong then that's literally an incorrect post. Wrong date, I can understand that. Subject lines are required to create a thread at all.
R&I isn't a 'meme', it's annoying as fuck. By perpetuating it you're only perpetuating shitposting and early threads yourself. Kill yourself.

>>169823592
>Literally what the fuck are you talking about?
Are you this fucking new that you don't remember R&I trying to change the OP image to not have DH?

>>169823406
>You're autistic about an infopic nobody reads
That's completely not true since that was the first thing that I did when I opened /gsg/ for the first time.

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>>169823452
Honestly this is the best idea by far, i don't know why r&i won't allow this

>>169823545
uninstall.exe lol
got him lads

>>169823452
This

I'm tired of the autistic OP pic and the wall of text no one reads as well

>>169823703
>Are you this fucking new that you don't remember R&I trying to change the OP image to not have DH?
Holy shit, how many ways to I have to explain that was a different fucking person from myself? "R&I" is not one specific person. If I am R&I, yet I didn't try to expunge Darkest Hour, who the fuck is R&I?

>>169822845
aren't you a little old to believe in r&i?

>>169823853
Then go away. If you come here to look at meme pictures you are clearly in the wrong place.

>>169823762
>completely not true
That's why we have people asking every fucking thread "what should I start with" right?
Fine - a few people do read the OP. Good on them, that's what an infopic exists for. But it's almost entirely unnecessary, engenders shitposting when edited (as it surely must be from time to time), and enables edit wars. It's also less than useful because you need to ask about shit anyway for the most part and all the info contained can be shoved into a pastebin, and in far more detail because we don't have to worry about not having enough space to fit in all the info.

>>169823948
Anyone who doesn't remember when we didn't have an infopic needs to fuck off.

>>169823452
More people dislike this idea than like it. We'd rather keep having the thread than "experiment" with changing it for no reason other than to satisfy your need to control everything.

is stellaris grand strategy yet?

R and I seething cause he got deleted last thread, got reported for spam lol.

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>>169823545

>>169823853
>>169823452
The infopic is incredibly useful and is iconic of these threads.

If only retards would actually read it before posting instead of shitting up the thread with a million easy/basic questions; these people are similar to those who go to /fit/ and ask "?how do I lose 45 lbs in a week?!?" instead of reading the fucking sticky.

>>169824038
Why do you think the infopic came about in the first place? Hint, it's not because someone thought "I know, I'll make the OP useful and informational so as to derail the thread!" Jesus fucking christ

>>169824078
dude just check the EPIc infopic it has everYTHING!!!! you will ever need newfriend :)

I'm quite new in this general, but I've been here almost every weekend and some everyday-evenings for a month now. I came from /int/ so I'm used to shitposting. However shitposting and argue about the OP is weird even for me. Having the same OP-picture for all threads is great, this is something not done on /int/ normally, but it simplify the general quite a bit by doing so. That way we shouldn't have arguments about "bad thread starters" and whatnot.

Yet, somehow you guys have now found a way to do just that.

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>>169824053
>your need to control everything
>control
Who the fuck is the one controlling when you insist on a single fucking picture with a completely unnecessary wall of text in the OP (the mods can easily be merged into a single pastebin like /mbg/, the warning is just a huge waste of space considering the inevitable first post anyway, and the infopic info can be pastebinned)? People go to these threads because the others inevitably get fucking deleted.

>>169823765
>weebshit is still mad that his shitty thread got deleted
BTFO, GLORY TO R&I!

>>169823962
>That's why we have people asking every fucking thread "what should I start with" right?
We don't, tho.
>engenders shitposting when edited (as it surely must be from time to time), and enables edit wars.
I don't even remember the last time when that happened.

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>>169824229
but stellaris isn't there even though it's grand strategy???

>>169824248
>Yet, somehow you guys have now found a way to do just that.
The people complaining about it are literally just mad that it takes away one of their opportunities to shitpost.

Honestly preserving the OP is worthwhile just because of the delicious shitposter tears

are we being raided?

>>169824182
>Why do you think the infopic came about in the first place?
The original R&I warning wasn't a shitpost either, because it occured when we literally DID get fucking raided on a near-threadly basis. Is it necessary now when all it does is enable shitposting and thread wars? Why make threads at 700 when there's not even an 'incorrect' thread up? Why fuck with the OP image repeatedly? Reminder that Gary's games were in the OP and got deleted, too.

>>169824317
>we don't tho
Yes we do, I personally have answered that exact question at least three times in the past couple of weeks alone.

>last time that happened
Anon holy fucking shit look at the OP right now and then look at the OP from October or something, how fucking new are you?

>>169824316
Explain to me one benefit of changing the OP.

>>169824418
This.
Same goes for the R&I. Before he started the thread was filled with cringeworty "nth for X" posts every thread. Now it's filled with shitposter butthurt. It's great!

>>169823452
The general is not here to please your ego and massage your narcissism.

There's room to point to something interesting under the "This day in history" area.

>>169824418
>one of their opportunities to shitpost
Anon holy fucking shit you have no idea. Have you SEEN shitposting? No, you haven't. If you think having a picture of the 30 years war for the OP is shitposting you have something else coming.

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>>169824317
>I don't even remember the last time when that happened.
Yeah because You weren't even here you fucking redditor

>>169824539
The post after the OP and the OP post are...different posts! We're not talking about the "R&I warning" which seems to be the only thing you care about

>>169824571
Benefit - it's impossible to be autistic about the OP because there is no fixed OP. Literally this entire shitstorm becomes impossible.

>>169824619
The general isn't here to please your autism either.

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>>169824714
>The post after the OP and the OP post are...different posts!
So you post an autistic warning about a now-defunct steamgroup and you do so twice to satisfy your autism?

>>169824593
Who is R&l?

I was going to talk about a grand strategy game, you complete autists still just have slapfights over mild details in the OP huh

>>169824593
>Now it's filled with shitposter butthurt
It's filled with that retarded side-view-of-white-person poster.

>>169824821
the white and based saviour of this thread

>>169824718
>The general isn't here to please your autism either.
>gsg
>not for pleasing autism
Haha that's where you're wrong

>>169824718
>Benefit - it's impossible to be autistic about the OP because there is no fixed OP. Literally this entire shitstorm becomes impossible.
No, that's completely backwards. You think having constant thread wars about the OP would be a benefit? Because that's what would happen--even a deviant thread that only lasted like 10 posts has caused all this shit.

>>169824925
So therefore, making a new thread at 700 is acceptable?

>>169824964
There is no way to prevent that. Even if everyone civilly agreed not to, it just takes one person jumping the gun. If you get upset about it, you are letting one person derail the entire thread. Best thing to do is just ignore it.

>>169824939
>that's completely backwards
Find me a single fucking other thread that has threadwars over the OP, despite having no fixed OP. The fact that there is NO FIXED OP is what makes it impossible to have autism over it. What are you going to rant over? If it was made first that's the one you use, that's how /vg/ works. If it's made early then report it. There can be no autism over the correct OP because there IS no correct OP, beyond perhaps the title and some of the contents - but nobody touches those, for the most part.

>>169824539
>I personally have answered that exact question at least three times in the past couple of weeks alone.
>>three times
That's a very small amount , more people probably just read the OP pic.
>Anon holy fucking shit look at the OP right now and then look at the OP from October or something, how fucking new are you?
Please tell me the last time when we had an active edit wars, because I don't remember.

>>169824710
>weebs have no argument beside muh reddit
BTFO!

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>>169824787
bumping

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>>169824964
No, threads shouldn't be made until after the bump limit.

gsg is speshul though.

>120 posts
>less than 5 posts about GS
hmmm nice autism
>>169824787
will do once the shitposting finishes

>>169825083
So I suppose if people started making threads at 500 we should just deal with it too?

>>169824964
>>169825083
This is a silly thing to be upset about.

A new thread should come when the current is close to an end. It doesn't matter if it's 700 or 750. Preferably closer to 750 than 700 perhaps, but it's nothing to get upset about.

>>169825203
Yeah, shitposting for 125 posts and counting is clearly a better solution, right?

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>>169825186
ill be waiting dont let me down lad

k lads im going to make a new thread at 400 posts with the infopic

>>169825258
>A new thread should come when the current is close to an end. It doesn't matter if it's 700 or 750. Preferably closer to 750 than 700 perhaps, but it's nothing to get upset about.
How motherfucking new are you? Yes, it comes when it's close to the end. NOT TO BUMP LIMIT. The thread doesn't fucking END at 750, it begins sinking. Most generals have a new thread when you're page 8 or lower, only we make thread so fucking early that it's often the case that three consecutive threads can be alive at once.

>>169825167
>gsg is speshul though.
This is true desu. Because if I go to /int/ and create a general before the current one reached its bump limit my thread will be almost instantly nuked.

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Good video if you play eu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3KqmV_9-bA&t=773s&

also hinduism best religion

Jesus Christ I just want to talk about strategy games.


So I will. Did anyone try this new HPM misc mod yet? I've downloaded and booted it up but I've only played for a couple months of ingame time to check if everything was working.

>>169825436
This is the case on every board. Generals are already stretching it for most boards, on places like /a/ you're liable to get your thread nuked just for being a general at all. Only /gsg/ makes threads so fast that you have a new thread for the new thread when the original is still at 740.

are we being raided

>>169825436
daily reminder that when R&I autists are sperging out its your civic duty to bump slow and vulnerable generals to stop them being deleted by an overflow of gsgs

>>169825413
I'm pretty new desu.

Does it matter that /gsg/ creates a new thread earlier than the rest? I don't think it matters at all. Why do you think it matters, if I may ask?

>>169825646
No, when R&I starts sperging out and making early threads you have to keep bumping old threads so they stay up as long as possible

>>169825663
>Does it matter that /gsg/ creates a new thread earlier than the rest?
Yes it does because there's a limited number of threads that can exist on /vg/, so each general should have as few threads up at the same time, ideally 1, or 1 that is past the bump limit and will soon be archived, and 1 that is currently being used.
The only guarantee to remove a thread from the board is that it reaches the bump limit, which is why you should wait until that time to post a new thread.

>>169825663
>I'm pretty new
I can fucking tell. Tip - if you're new and don't understand anything, don't fucking post about it.

>does it matter that /gsg/ creates a new thread earlier than the rest?
Besides being literally against the rules, /vg/ has a limited but fixed population of generals unlike other boards. If you have 3 or 4 /gsg/s up at once, this bumps slower, deader generals off the board entirely because there's only 10 pages.
Furthermore it causes confusion for people who open the thread at 718 posts. In most generals, a new thread is created at 750-800 posts. I've often seen it happen that people ask a question in the old /gsg/ thread, unaware that a new thread has been made at 680 posts, or even pitybump it from page 9 or 10 becaause they think the thread is simply dead or sleepy instead of prematurely over.

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>>169825663
>I'm pretty new desu.
hahaha infopictards btfo

>>169825436
>going on /int/ and not just filtering all the generals
kys :^)

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>>169825663
>it's LITERALLY a fucking newfag trying to defend R&I bullshit

New threads should only be made at page 10 after bump limit desu

Is there a way to remove the Duelling Kangz component of HIP? Sick of my 22 martial king getting stabbed to death by blind midgets

>>169826258
That's the general practice. I'd argue that for dead generals like /eagg/ making it earlier is fine too because otherwise people might forget. At any rate, page 9 at earliest.

>>169826334
>talex youth
Steamcord spotted.

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reminder that R&I is the only reason why /gsg/ has been an anime-free general for the past couple of years

>>169826321
HIP's duel system is based off Combat Rating, not martial. I think that's how it works in vanilla too.

>>169826343
As long as it's after the bump limit I think it's fine.
Even if it is in a lower page.

>>169826501
>were you not here for the massive diaper shitting that the liquor lads had when stellaris came out?
We have people who weren't even here for DH's shitstorm or the literally 2-months-ago change of OP.

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How's your trade value map mode looking?

>>169826417
I thought HIP added Combat Rating? I guess I just haven't played vanilla in ages.

It's a pretty retarded feature either way desu, shouldn't be a coward for not wanting to charge around the front of a 20k+ man battle as the leader of a sovereign nation with no heirs. Even then, you need horrifically lopsided CR to safely duel, in my experience

t. just got killed by a literal blind guy

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>>169826258
But if R and I doesn't make the threads, how can he make sure his post is first? Have some sympathy for the poor sperglord, this is all he has in life.

>get tempted to cheat when I don't play ironman
>whenever I play ironman my game ends in 10 or less years because of liege imprisonment/execution, assassination, getting AIDS, inheritence breakages

Kill me please

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>>169826501
did you even look at the image I posted nerd?

>>169826643
>literal blind guy
Yeah that must be just bad luck, blindness is like a -10 to combat rating and being short is another -2. Try CK2+, I think it avoids the retarded duelling shit that can last for fucking days.
Not sure though, don't quote me on that.

>this one obnoxious weeb who can't stop shitposting because his thread with anime OP got deleted
Simply epic. Why do you even care what the OP pic is?

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>>169826638
>vanilla EU4

>>169826802
but that's not the REAL poll, starfuckers go away won in the end

>>169826756
t. newfag

>>169826778
You can cheat in ironman too with Cheat Engine, even use the console.
Also there's really no good advice for this. Ironman has the problem of corrupting saves too.

>>169826638
>cropping
>eu4
treddit

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>>169826871
>one

>>169827019
Tell me why do you care about the OP pic so much.

>>169827125
stellaris will have hiveminds in its next patch

>>169826826
I like HIP for most things over CK2+, but the ways it's worse are glaring. God damn, I just wish someone who wasn't a total retard would make an overhaul mod for CK2. t. everyone ever, for every game. I'm a lazy piece of garbage so I shouldn't really comment I suppose

>>169827127
I'm not the guy posting Girls Und Panzer and I didn't make the deleted OP either. I'm more interested in why you care about the OP pic so much.

>>169826931
If I can just cheat freely in Ironman that doesn't solve my problem though. The literal only reason my Ironman games fail is because of retarded RNG that is completely outside of my control. There's no way around it I guess

>>169827319
>I'm more interested in why you care about the OP pic so much.
I don't.

>>169827475
you don't, you play as prussia and dismantle the hre

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>>169826994
fine

>>169827539
Already did desu

>>169827682
>ottomen on suicide watch
I like it

>>169827681
Yes, all the people who said "im pretty new here xDxD!!!" and "dude fuck anime lmao im not autistic haha pls like me"

>>169825941
>>169825972
Your point is a good one.

>>169828018
Should i always make my ruler general then?

>>169821239
Nice fucking resolution friend

>>169828087
No, only if you're actually in line to be the next emperor. If the next one in line is Bohemia and you're Brandenburg then you don't want to lose control.

>>169828241
Yeah, Should i go for italy or leave them be?

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>be me
>playing Bohemia to HRE in Vic2 DoD mod
>check trade
>I'm apparently producing over 90% of the world's ammunition
>I'm also flooding the market with cheap ammo, preventing other nations from developing their own domestic production
>tfw you realize that the only reason you've been doing so well is because your enemies literally can't afford to resist your constant invasions

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>>169828094
Zoomed in for you. Can you read it now?

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>>169827802
They peaked in the balkans in 1490, then venice took albania from them.
They only have 4 provinces left in the balkans, venice has a trade city in anatolia.

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Glad to see muslims are still as balanced as ever.

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>>169830671
in my game the spanish caliph's been sitting at 60+% decadence for like 3 generations.

>all these people arguing

So uh, can anyone recommend a beginner's guide for EU4? Preferably something I can read or a video by someone without a thick accent. T-thanks.

>>169830793
I'd unironically suggest you to play a game as Spain or Portugal, then come back with some questions if there's anything you don't understand.

>>169830913
>>169830793
I mean it's because guides are going to be either really wide or not cover enough, and most of EU4's stuff can be figured out yourself or from tooltips. Questions like "holy shit where is my money going" or "why the fuck am I lagging behind what am I doing wrong here's my situation" or "how am I losing this war" are more specific and can be answered, but you're basically just asking "how 2 gud".

>>169830793
Play, look at the wiki, ask questions


As for videos I would only suggest specific ones like Florrys aggressive expansion video and Remans Fort ZoC video.

>>169830913
>>169831086
>>169831153
Thanks bros. I'm off to shit it up as Portugal.

>>169828018
Use wars to free nations in the HRE, so you get more influence and tax from them, it's usualy very easy.

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>Portugal somehow got Crete

>>169832126
>it's a Crete becomes 40% Arab and 15% Sub-Saharan African episode

Is there a version of the France mod for Victoria II that works with the latest version of HPM?

based jannies
why would you even delete all those posts

>>169832126
>>169832436
There honestly should be a decision to expel African and Arab pops from Crete as the Ottomans or Greece, maybe sending them to Alexandria or Cairo.

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>>169833302
They didn't delete that many posts desu.

>>169832126
That's one disgusting A-H.

>>169832126
>Austria-Hungary
>France has Cyprus
....???????????????

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>>169833459
You've seen nothing.

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Should I do it? Should I convert?

>>169833459
Sure is. I should've savescummed it but there must've been some reason I didn't. They took Kiev in a war that I was also part of. I wanted to add a wargoal to get Lithuania freed so I could get it myself, but the KuK decided they wanted to go full retard instead of helping out their ally when they won the war.

>>169833805
No.

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>>169833805
Religious map

Should I be the hero they need, but don't deserve? Will it make me weaker?

>>169833991
Becoming catholic will make you weaker yes.

>>169833991
>Orthodox Italy
what the fuck

>>169833747
>madagascar
>Italian Republic
>independent ireland with UK controlling the north
>the balkans in general

Got any other infectious diseases we should know about?

>>169834160
Look at Algeria.

>>169834124
Karlings

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>169834279
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I bet you love the infopic

>>169834447
t. animeshitter

>>169834279
reddit.com

>>169834520
Anime is W&B

>>169833747
>>169834160
>historically accurate g*rmany

>>169834520
not even him but it's still cancerous.

>>169834596
Reminder W&B is less than 6 months old and is used mainly by newfriends.

>>169834520
see >>169834569

>>169834746
Reminder that W&B is a natural evolution of the Report and Ignore poster which is in itself a natural evolution of the infopic which was a natural evolution self-defense mechanism of the original Paradox and Strategy game general threads on /v/ which is itself a natural evolution of the synergy between anime and video games thus proving that anime is in fact W&B.

What's the strongest Anglo-Saxon count in the 769 start date?

>>169835010
fuck off wh*teshit

>>169835087
Gas yourself honkey I'm pure Indo-Anglic blood

>>169834942
>>>reddit

>>169834746
This is a good post

where do I get latest lux invicta? the forum is a mess

also
anyone made a less shitty version? how the fuckl do I remove shittyafrica

>HoI 4
>Canada
>Decide to skewer the eagle with my beaner brethren
>go fashy
>gain independece
>leave allies
>Uk hates me
>begin producing troops
>great depression so everything takes fucking ages to build
>equipment takes fucking ages to produce
>run out of man power
>conscription laws locked behind focuses eith requirements of being at war
>great depression focuses locked behind a requirement to be at war
>mexican fashys start civil war and join faction
>start to lose the war and won't let me join
>stuck with fuck all man power and no allies
>legionary romania asks to join faction

How the hell am i supposed to do this. I can barely fart out infantry once a year in sets of 5

Canada's focus tree seems fucked

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Why is Paradox so good at making soundtracks ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRYODiguZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DD_NR8fIpw

???

>>169835523
Can't you just literally declare a war as fascists

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What are some good HOI 4 mods? Vanilla is boring now.

why hasnt HIP made a real crusader fusion culture yet?

>>169835783
Completing the skewer the eagle focus gives you claims on yank clay that allows you to gain more man power from it.

It also allows you to make a faction

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>>169834520

>>169836129
ye but can't you just delcare war on bolivia or something to lift the penalties

>>169836190
wew lad, as us 4channers say

>>169836480
I don't get it, dude. Do you go to 4chan?

>>169836580
No its a scary place full of niggers who try to claim their white. Like Argentina

>>169836580
Yes haha I go to 4chan like 2 or 3 times a week lmao!! it's very funny though sometimes i don't get the jokes xD, i'm pretty new myself but that infopic is really helpfull for newfriends such as myself (saying f*gs isn't nice we should stop)

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>There's no such thing as a perfect Af--
Why yes, this is just fine thank you.

>>169836190
now THIS is epic

>>169836293
Pax Americana, also thats a good point but don't i risk drawing a major in against me by attacking a smaller Nation?

I then also need to win the war

>>169836792
Thanks

>>169836968
then declare on something unalligned I can't believe you are this bad

>people stop arguing about the infopic
>thread completely dies

>>169836761
fair play to you lad, you've done quite well. post europe, asia and americas.

monarchy

Why do CK2 and Eu4 not acuratly reflect the instability of a Republic? They dont tend to last long. I think the average was 250 years while monarchies can last far far longer. Instead monarchies get stability problems every death and republics just float along perfect all game.

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>record scratch

>>169838005
huh? Republics are way more fragile than Monarchies in both of those games

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Just attacked turks to the point islamic communist came to power, then I proceeded to ally with them

>>169838118
ooh i love a good papal game. you going for Roman Republic or theocratic Italy?

>>169836761
if italy takes the rest of egypt it will be great

>>169838372
It's too late for that, Britain already took Sudd, so even if Italy gets everything else it will be a horrible clusterfuck at this point.

>>169838005
EU4 and CK2 don't reflect the instability of countries in general.
Countries just blob bigger and bigger until they meet a bigger blob and get eaten.

>>169838346
>you going for Roman Republic or theocratic Italy?
I don't know, I never played as Italy before. What's the difference?

newfag here
what are blobs and why are they bad

>>169838840
see
>>16983825
That about sums it up

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>>169838658
Roman Republic is just Papal State as a republic. Since the Papal State has both north and south Italian as accepted, it could feasibly conquer all of the peninsula and not have to form Italia. Theocratic Italy happens when you form Italy as the Papal State, which is a Theocracy. up to you to choose tbqhwyfaam

>>169839075
>post not found
epin

>>169839225
that's cause I accidentally the 1 at the end
also no yous to him

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>>169839194
I guess I will go with the pope.

>>169839075
>>169839692
what exactly is wrong with this? the borders/map looks a bit ugly, but otherwise seems fine?

>>169838616
Weird how stability got easier to increase the bigger you were in eu4 while it got harder to increase the bigger you were in eu3.

>>169839986
i dun gedit

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>freeze frame

>>169840149
STOP

>>169840447
O-okay.

>>169840648
CONTINUE

What the fuck does W&B mean?

I only come here for the mods and glancing at occasional playthroughs, why are you lot so mad every time?

>>169841027
white and based

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20 something hours later

how did I do?
first time playing as a major power
I probably could have gone for the chinese earlier than I did (only started in 1700 or so)

my only real complaints were that institutions REALLY fucked up my tech levels for 150 years and all I could get up was military because of 80% penalties

What's the strongest custom nation you can make with 400pts in EU4?

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>>169841267
Let me see the actual map?

Here's my Russia campaign now.

reminder to yee and haw

>>169838251
You NEED to grab Lazio for good borders. That shit will be sex. DO IT

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>>169841487

>>169841267
>russia with
>humanist
>expansion
no

Expansion is generally not very good, and religious has better synergy for muscovite russia.


post economic tab

>>169840648
Thanks!

>>169841546
>pushing into china and Japan
>not removing the p*les
IT'S SHIT

>>169841546
You fat fuck. I'm a petite Russia.

I want to take Japan too. Can I do it in 120 years? There's an achievement for that.

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>>169841639
I never really had any religious problems except for when I started to take china/mongolia and only had one missionary
religious unrest was non-existent since I kept my orthodoxy high
I took expansion just for the trader and extra colonist, probably could have refunded it but didn't think it would be a good enough tradeoff

>>169841794
they only had a 23k strong army when I attacked them in 1716 so once I colonized the kurils I stormed through with 100k and took half of it in one shot, then took korea during truce time

>>169842083
>I never really had any religious problems except for when I started to take china/mongolia and only had one missionary

It's not about that, it's about the bird mana you save from the casus belli and the cheaper cultural conversion from the finisher, and the even cheaper cultural conversion from the Religious-Influence policy.

>>169842551
Is there a significant difference between putting something as an accepted culture and converting it? because japan only had 2 cultures and chine had 3 or 4, so I could just put them all in there

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Any room for my little ancapistan here?

>>169842083
How many gold provinces do you have?

It's pretty safe to develop those up to 9 base production.

Depending on how much time it's left it can be worth to go further.

I think you should get like a bit above 6 for each gold province you have, and you have.. 5+Colonized Gold provinces so your gold income should be a lot higher.

>>169842718
>venice
Cute!

>>169842658
No.
If you had slots for everything then you don't need to convert everything, but I can see from the area you cover that you have a lot more cultures that you don't have enough slots for.

China have 17 cultures sin its own culture group.

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>>169842814
Austria got hit bretty hard by this thing. So hard that it anschlussed itself afterwards.

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RIP Prussia

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How do I deal with Aragon and Castille? It's one of those games that Castille fell into a PU under Aragon.

I want to form Italy.

>>169843397
Maybe they'll forget that southern italy was theirs when they form spain

>>169843397
Blob into balkans or HRE through Savoy. Idk what your alliances are.

>>169843397
France.

>>169842083
Ally france.

>>169843885
france wanted nothing to do with me all game, but as soon as denmark dropped rivalry I got sweden, prussia, austria, and commonwealth

What would france have got me?

>>169842936
Oh you're right. I only just finished coring the chinese provinces so I hadn't even looked at their cultures yet


Also, what determines diplo score? I ranked 6th overall because my military and admin were both #1, but I was like 50th in diplo all game
was it from breaking every alliance and not joining wars repeatedly

>>169844165
>Also, what determines diplo score? I ranked 6th overall because my military and admin were both #1, but I was like 50th in diplo all game
Having a fleet helps.

in competitive mp when we were playing for score the #1 player and I(I was #2) were just massing threedeckers to fight for the #1 slot. I think we both ended with 300-400 threedeckers each.

Other things also matter, like vassals, dip ideas, dip tech(I think), powerful allies, admirals.

>>169843397
Have a lot of galleys more then Aragon and Castille put together. You should be able to beat whatever troops they have in Italy. Same thing happened to be me one game with the added joke that they reseiged the islands of the spainsh coast with thier whole army so I just blockaded them and took aragons capitol but to be fair that was way overkill.

>>169843547
>>169843613
I can ally france.

>>169843573
Currently allied with savoy, austria and hungary, but austria is allied to aragon as well. I'm considering allying france and calling him into wars as soon as I can. Will most possibly unally savoy to try and get some land from him.

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>>169844165
>>169844402

>>169844567
oh wew thanks, I forgot it's in the ledger

>not talking about grand strat
>all this thread drama

/gsg/ just needs to be purged at this point.

>>169844482
I have 26 heavies, rest are trade ships. Should I prioritize galleys? I'm also ahead of tech by 10 years or so in everything, so where should I put my points? Development? I keep republican tradition just above 50.

>>169844810
26 last posts was about grand strat, and the streak wasn't stopped by drama, but by a shitty forced meme.

>>169844874
When fighting in inland seas. Basically the med and black sea. Galleys are as strong as Heavy ships but many many times cheaper so using them as a nation like Italy makes alot of sense since you can spam them out. As for monarch points I like to develop land myself not sure if its worth it but theres something comfy of having every province you own 30+ dev.

>>169844874
>so where should I put my points? Development?
If you develop, wait with developing your capitol until you have 1000 development.


Mainly dip for provinces with good trade goods, if you're near the cap in the other two, put those in provinces that already have higher base production than tax/manpower combined so you can further increase the base production.
Or a low development grain or something province that is cheap to develop if your cloth/salt/whatever provinces already have too high development and are too expensive.

>>169844810
>Niggerdox faggotry
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""grand stragety""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>169844950
I wasn't even trying to meme friendo. I was expressing my opinion of the constant circle jerk of the same shitty thread drama

>>169845334
>niggerdox
What?

>>169845529
The meme in question: >>169841494

>play full campaign
>start new campaign as another nation immediately
>accidentally save over your old campaign's file out of reflex

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>>169841487
Posting Russias? I can go into Russia any time but I need humanist or aristocratic first so I get to keep the accepted cultures.

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>want to play as mali to shake things up
>niggertugal keeps colonizing my neighborhood on November 12th, 1444


fuck iberians, they're SHIT

>>169845637
>>169845529
yeehaw

>first ironmeme run that isn't a total pissjob
>take hunting focus because of lmao frail
>faggot hunting dog has a body count of 3, including my 22 chancellor, has also injured me

why is there no option to put this four legged faggot in the ground?

>>169835784

Kaiserreich.

Why is Rome so interesting anons? We need a good game set from the 1st Punic war to 476 or something

>>169828795
nope

>>169828241
can you explain this further?

>>169846756
>taking doge without being diligent
You can only blame yourself

>>169847545
I have literally never had this happen in 100+ hours of playing

>>169835589
I don't know, something in them just clicks with me, like they're exactly the music I'd compose for myself

Shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cCB7nrhaKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRbGl9lbN18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elK5iReyAMI

Is becoming Cathar worth it in vanilla?

I want to play a smaller nation in EU4, not blobbing out so much but more focusing on developing my land.

Maybe have a bigger nation as my ally neighbour which can help me in exchange of my princess' pussy

Is there such a playstyle or is it always blobbing out and expanding until the end?
Kinda like forming Italy and just staying on the current borders and expanding inwards.

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>>169835784
You might try my alt-history mod, it's set in 1936 after a Napoleonic victory in 1815

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698650453

>>169834746
what the fuck is W&B

>>169847821
not at all

>>169847821
Yes

holy wars

I am fucking retarded it seems like. I loved darkest hour, couldn't do hoi3, but hoi4 everyone says is so fucking easy.

However, I don't know what the fuck I am doing even with the tutorial.

>>169848621
>Kinda like forming Italy and just staying on the current borders and expanding inwards.
Yes you can do that and stop expanding.
You don't have to go into southern france.

>>169849257
dont do the tutorial

just jump into it, it seems hard at first, its actually not

>>169849257
Just pause the game every time an icon appears at the top of the screen and click it, the game should tell you why something bad is happening

Wait, does vanilla CK have Combat Rating? Or are duels via the War focus just random? Because they certainly appear to be unless there are some hidden modifiers.

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>>169831153
>>169831086
>>169830913

Not sure if you guys are still in the thread, but just wanted to say thanks again for telling me to just play rather than watch a beginner video. Saved me a good portion of time I would have wasted watching a tutorial video.

I've been playing for a couple hours now as Portugal and I'm balls deep in Moroccan pussy right now. Between the tooltips and the wiki; it's been pretty easy to figure out how to play like you guys said.

>>169834746
Only good post ITT

>>169850119
I think you mean this one >>169819254

>>169836190
10/10 for effort

>tfw can't decide between going independent, or continuing to be a naughty cassal

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>>169836761
Rate my Africa.

>>169850517
what is a cassal

>>169850517
If you can realistically defend your independence I can't see why not.

>>169847465
Every time the Emperor dies, the one with the most votes at that moment becomes Emperor until death. However, if you are re-elected as Emperor, IA increases by 10.
In other words, as long as you have a valid heir and you're actually in-line to become the next Emperor, you should seek to kill your leader ASAP so you get a free lump sum of 10 IA, given equal mana-generating abilities for heir and king.

>>169850632
Vassal, don't be vatty

>>169850651
I mean, I'd be the strongest duke in England, but there's still a few counties in my current liege's borders that I'd rather gobble in a lopsided war, than have to wait for peace treaties and fight more fairly, you know?

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So every like 20 years or so, im having issues saving, where the save is not created and im wondering what is causing it.

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>>169849807
No problem
Remember to ask if you actually have questions as to why you're getting your shit pushed in or if you try a harder country and get your shit pushed in
Also, remember that Portugal is a colonial nation. Don't focus too much on Europe proper, as a rule - you're in a prime position to get a jump on the colonial pie, and you're not actually strong enough to go toe-to-toe with the major European players.
Remember to rape berber qts.

>>169850518
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>>169836761
what about my africa

>>169850656
Actually wait, if I can get just one more county while a vassal, I'll be able to form a second duchy for dem dere dejure claims. I'll finally nut up and break free when I get it.

>>169850886
Oh I was talking about EU4 laddo, not CK2, it doesn't work the same way there.

>>169850757
No, stay a vassal and fuck over your king, cuck him, destroy his kingdom and then go independant, you can go further and actually help him expand and blob all over the place just to make his empire collapse later

>>169850807
Save issues are fixed for 2.0/next EU4 patch