/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

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>>169794547
TO
LOLI
JAM

>>169794416
Good morning agdg! How are the demos coming along? Will you be ready for Demo Day?

Make your fucking game.

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>>169794683
I hope so! ..I hope so...

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Is the icon rotation more confusing with the directional movement or am I just being paranoid?

>>169795741
Looks fine, makes sense to me

What is this though? Seen the game before but not with thus UI. What is it for?

>>169795741
Geez that looks like a hassle and a half to control just about I tell you for what up a storm to the bank and back

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>>169795976
WHAT

>>169795741
Does it matter which way you're facing?

I'm not aware of any roguelikes which do that.

>>169795909
>>169796180
It's a small side-project I'm hoping to complete by DD or not long after it.

>old webm
You choose the controls on the right to be continuously executed to reach the goal. Algorithmic thinking puzzles.

>>169795976
I don't understand

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>>169796296

Will people bully me if I post progress of what is currently a command line game?
>All these gorgeous looking games

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I'm done with Jumping Into C++, where do I go next?

Like, I feel like now I have a bunch of very basic blocks, but I'm missing the bridge between that and making "real" programs that aren't just little console apps.

Any book that teaches me more how to use C++, rather than teaching me C++ itself?
Maybe something about GUIs and making my program usable with buttons instead of cmd lines, or standard progamming practices, anything to take me out of the stalling point I've reached.

Like, that "Exercise table" that's posted sometimes has "Make a pong" clone as one of the examples for simple exercises, but I wouldn't know even where to start for that.

Hope I explained well enough what I'm looking for.

>>169796474
no, now post it

>>169796474
"No."
>>169796591
link: https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/computer-programming/programming/good-practices/a/planning-a-programming-project

>>169796591
Unreal Engine ;)

>royalty free music
>it's paid

>>169797000
Yeah but there's no royalties ;)

>>169797000
Dumbest trips I've seen in a while desu

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>>169796602
>>169796824

Okey.

So far I have a lovely little X that moves around on a grid (of any size) of O's, with the dash indicating a test for invalid moves, used to denote things like walls.

The E is representative of an test object that the player can interact with. Right now, pressing E over the E opens an interaction menu, the only current option of which is E (for examine). It spits out a description of the object.

Here's a picture of my little guy moving around, and failing to get past a wall. He tries his best, goddamn it.

>>169796591
why don't you attempt a more practical exercise: try to identify problems and break them down.

take the pong example. you don't know where to start? think about what you'll definitely need. "realtime" loop, graphics and input.

get something ez like sdl2 and try to move a square on screen then make it react to button presses etc etc

>>169797790

That's helpful, and definitely where I was going with my post.
I was just wondering if there was a "right" way to go about with it, that's all.

Someone else reccomended OpenGL to me, is it good for 2D stuff and normal non-game GUI too?

>>169797652
>press E on the E to open the E menu which allows you to E
Potentially the most intuitive design of all time.

So are you making a roguelike or just having a bit of fun with grids for the sake of learning?

>>169794747
>posted three weeks in a row
>still no multiplier

...is the name case-sensitive? If it is then maybe I misspelled it but I can't tell because they're all CAPS in the image

>>169798042
>caring about score
:/

Recap guy is a faggot for including that feature but you're even more of a faggot for caring.

Guys, I have a question about Snes9x and Snes9x EX+ which one is the original and are they made by the same team?

I wonder what happened to that lolisim guy

>>169797892
>if there was a "right" way to go about with it
Don't worry about that to start with. I can second SDL2- just start making something with it. Hack it together, use a single source file, ignore best practices... just make it work.

>>169797892
>OpenGL
Hardware graphics APIs are a whole other ball game. Make something with higher-level rendering (such as SDL2) first, and investigate OpenGL/Direct3D/etc when you're ready.

>>169798190
Wrong thread probably? Search for "emugen".

>>169798173
>not subconsciously prepping a large userbase to make marketing easier when your game releases

if I don't care about that why would I even be posting in this shithole? the only point is to spread my game in every crevice of the internet

>>169797892
sorry, i've just put too much time to remember how i've started off, but i generally just tinkered a lot

opengl doesn't actually care if what you draw is 3d or not, but sdl2 is a must if you wanna use it. it takes care of so much nuisances. if you gonna draw 2d you can just skip all the transformation matrices and come back to them later

>>169798334
/emugen/ - emu generation

>>169798334
This is not emu thread?

>>169797938
Not even remotely rogue like. Well, maybe a little.

I started to try and type out an explanation of concept, but... well, tl;dr - you're a sentient computer file, trying to find his place in what he doesn't yet know is a post-apocalyptic world.

Everything is going great, you've cleaned up your resident systems of nasty viruses and hardware corruptions, learned a little bit more about yourself from fragments of files hidden around the system, hell - you're even learning to interface with the physical world through cameras, robots. and other devices!

Suddenly, humans show up in your compound.

Run, Hide, Fight, or Aid? Or anything in between.

Something tells you there's a big world out there, and you haven't even seen a fraction of it...

Going to keep my scope very, very smoll for the moment. But I have pages on pages of design docs that are begging to be turned into reality.

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>>169798762
It is now

What's the best way to save and read game dialogues? Do I make a class just for it, and read whatever I need from it?

>>169798975
Depends how complex your dialogues are.
If you just want plain text then a simple textfile is nice, if you need to store additional data you can consider json/xml. If you want a full blown cutscene'ish system than you should use a scripting language like LUA

>>169798975
Classes are for instances. Try a struct.

>>169798865
Sounds great. I hope you're able to realize those plans.

AIs that choose to fight the humans better watch out though, because they've got a trained specialist who fights back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fim5YaeukM

>>169799208
Some characters will be talking quite a lot(around 5 minutes of dialogue), and its dialogues varies depending on what you are doing in the game.

I was thinking of not giving the burden of the dialogue logic to the characters, to not clog up their code with stuff other classes could be doing in a cleaner way.

What do you think would be the best approach?

>>169799224
Do you mean, making a struct full of strings, and call each one of them?

>>169799270
Holy shit, I have been looking for this game for over a decade. I didn't remember the name of the game clearly, so I couldn't get it from google.

All I remember is me and my friends as kids laughing our butts off when he fell in an infinite hole.

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>>169799270
Thanks, working right now. The interaction menu was pretty case-sensitive, so I'm trying to make it more flexible. It's going alright.

Here's my little guy interacting with the only interactable object that he's ever known.

>>169799224
>what are static classes

>>169798890
Why so mean? ;(

rule n°1: feed the loli or else

>>169800978
feed her what?

>>169801075
a huge fatpaycheck

>>169798272
He's hiding in 4chan*2 posting painfully slow progress.

It's all but dead right now afaik, been a while since I checked in on him

>>169798272
he posts on /d/.

I know the basics of Modern OpenGL, are there resoucres on the best way to structure OpenGL 2D engines? I want to make a game, but honestly I love programming too.

https://twitter.com/googumproduce/status/827298173261541376

realization googem was probably the retarded communist shitposter derailing the last thread

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>>169800978
>2k17
>still being a slave to the loli
Ascend already

why is programming an rpg so difficult it's so much work!

>>169801958
>!
sarcasm detected beep boop

>>169801825
>not feeding the loli
i warned you anon,don't say i didnt

>>169801458
Structuring an engine has little to do with the particular graphics API. Game Engine Architecture is good, also you may be interested in the Molecular Musings blog for some series about more specific things, in particular the design of a high level rendering API so that you don't have OpenGL calls everywhere and rather something more meaningful and less stateful.

>>169794621
Is that still happening?
Did I really underestimate how many retards inhabit /agdg/?

>want to dev
>have to apply for retail jovs instead or they will take away my benefits

Why is life so terrible? I'm not a bad guy, I don't deserve this.

>>169800239
Poor approximations of modules and only useful in languages that force you to put every static function and variable/constant in a class.

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>>169794416
Got player housing working in multiplayer :)
Its a bit floaty and needs some work
And ill probably end up redoing the character again before i move on
But now i can have a nice sleep then settle in and play zelda until its finished <3
https://youtu.be/oUsW2a7ujGE

>>169802212
you came to the wrong neighborhood, normie

>>169802229
jovs?

>>169800239
>>169802260
Also these languages always have their own module systems anyway (Java has packages, C# has namespaces) so they're absolutely retarded.

>>169802386
*jobs

>>169802229
> I don't deserve this
You do.
But good news! You can quit your job, take a loan and try to make something out of yourself for a few months! Unless you're a talentless hack with impossible dreams of making games who will never actually be capable of making anything of value that is.

WTF is screenshot saturday?

>>169802806
P O S T S C R E E N S H O T S
O S T S C R E E N S H O T S P
on twitter

>>169803107
Will it get me mad views? And engagement? And engagement viewers fans???

>>169803247
no idea never done it

>>169803247
Maybe

Maybe not

Social media is a total crapshoot if you don't have an existing following

>>169803321
>>169803332
Guess I can see how it fares vs posting drawings to twitter.

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How do you make a loli game if you can't into art?

>>169803489
not my problem

>>169796448

Reminds me of Pony island for some reason

>>169803489
neural networks

>>169803489
Design the game in such a way it doesn't need art

Needs more triadic schemes.

Just in general, I love it.

>>169803489
Loli Text Adventure

>>169802278
plop :)

>>169803489
You can't.

Next time ask to be reborn as an artist.

>>169803778
>>169803870
Looking forward to your text-based Loli games on the Loli Jam!

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>>169803856

How hard is it to make AI for something like age of empires villagers that does a task, searches for more to do closeby, defends itself against wolves but runs away from soldiers?

I'm New and want to make a small villagers Management game that might include enemies worse than wolves.

>>169801825
>not being a slave to loli

>>169803589
Is the game any good? Youtube videos look make it look hipsterish

>>169804210
In gamemaker btw.

>>169804210
Would knowing whether it was difficult discourage you? If you had any conviction you wouldn't care either way.

>>169804312
I like it, its weird but kinda interesting, cheesy as fuck tho.

>>169804567
I Just want to know what to exspect. I havent Made anything more complicated than pack Man yet.

>>169804210
that doesn't sound difficult at all.

Basically a hierarchy list of IF THEN ELSE

>>169804760
It is feasibly within your grasp.

>>169794747
why did some scores resetted?

>>169802165
I should say, structuring a game rendering system in particular. I'm decently aware of how i'd like to go over an engine, but I don't have too much experience working with OpenGL in an actual project of decent scope where I have to think about performance, efficient rendering, etc

>>169804070
A game designed around avoiding art doesn't have to be text based. Text is just one of many forms of abstraction.

>>169805465
anything that isn't text is art
let's hear your ideas for a game designed around avoiding art

>>169805571
It's a horror game set in an abandoned art gallery, all the spooky things from paintings have come to life and are trying to kill you.

>>169805695
cheeky

>>169805571
A game where the player draws his own loli

I'm having a bit of an issue with Unity that I'm not really sure how to fix. I have a couple scenes built within that I've started trying to transfer between using the Scenemanager and my own made loading screen. I use asynch loading to switch to the loading screen, load out the old level and then load in the new level so that people aren't looking at nothing the whole time.

However, my loading screen seems to freeze for a bit whenever I load another scene behind it, some times it's faster after a scene has loaded once, but whenever it's the first time it just hangs there for a while, frozen before instantly loading in.

Do you guys think this is just poor optimization on my part? This still happens on relatively small scenes with almost nothing in them too, so I'm not entirely sure why it happens exactly. Any tips on optimization and cutting down on that?

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>>169806113
>lolijam is secretly "do everything in your power to make a game that really isn't related to the jam but you can convince everyone it is" jam
i don't know what to think about this

I'm considering using the Dawnlike tileset in my game. Does anyone know of any projects of any fame that use it, or any released commercial projects that use it?

http://opengameart.org/content/dawnlike-16x16-universal-rogue-like-tileset-v181

>>169806657
>using premade tilesets
It's like you don't even want to make game.

>>169806809
real niggas use free art from all over the place and make a good game with it

Are there any helpful articles about making models/textures for PBR? Godot 3.0 is getting PBR, but I've never used that sort of thing before, I don't know how to make assets for it.

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feelin' good today. how's your dev life been lately agdg?

>>169806809
I want to program and design a game, not draw it. Those sprites are really good IMO.

>>169805002
For a 2D game that mostly just comes down to batching, which is something that the blog I mentioned talks about.

What is it with agdg night time and their fucking autistic squadron that comes in here to argue with eachother about politics for 8 hours every night?

>>169807006
Frozen

I can't art so I am stuck

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>>169807068
Are you me? I wish art was like coding

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>>169806953
PBR has nothing to do with geometry, it's just a different lighting model. As far as textures go it depends on the exact lighting model, but in general you have very intuitive parameters like albedo and metallicity that don't really require explanation. You have to avoid baking any lighting information into your textures (aside from pure occlusion or light maps or whatever), that's the big one.

Pic related, the difference between a diffuse map and an albedo map.

>>169806247
this is all iirc but - i think this (used to anyway) be a paid feature, where you could have a scene running and animating while unity loads a new scene in the background.

dont know if its changed by now, but at any rate, theres multiple ways to load a scene, do some research, im too lazy to do it for you

>>169807072
I think it fits well enough. Impressive amount of variations too.

>>169807171
same I tried and tried to learn art and I can't even do pixelart properly that looks good feels bad man

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>>169802796
>Unless you're a talentless hack with impossible dreams of making games who will never actually be capable of making anything of value that is.

>>169807068
>>169807007
>>169807171
Artfag here.

>>169794683
Yes.

>>169807194
That's called asynchronous loading, which I did mention I was using.

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>>169794683
It's greatly expanded in breadth from DD12-build but the new content is mostly in outline/unfinished form. Not sure where I'll cut off the experience y'all get to run through.

If I trim it so that you only experience the polished and worked bits there'll only be some 5-15 minutes worth of new play versus the DD12 build.

If I don't trim it, it'll be more like an extra 30 minutes at the rate I'm getting this outline in.

>>169807007
I think that while using them is fine (as long as the game is good and they are free to use), you might end up at a place where in your design you need something specific the tileset cannot provide or, alternatively, the tileset starts pushing your design on what you should include because it's already there.

>>169807193
Ah alright, that makes sense. Thanks.

>>169807010
Ive been taking a look at that blog, I love the in depth analysis of the smaller aspects of programming. I never thought of something like hashing strings for comparison vs just comparing strings in terms of performance. Not a huge deal, but it demonstrates the small features that make a game/program perform better and thus feel better.

Do you have any similar blogs/resources like that?

ty anon

>>169807261
do you want to know which engine I use?

>>169807261
do you want to know which engine I use and whatever one I say you will say sorry not interested I don't like that engine

>>169807407
The Bitsquid blog has some good stuff, too.

>>169807447
>>169807485
I want to know what game you're making.

Are you retards really just giving up on the next jam and letting it be loli jam now?

>>169807994
We may as well let it happen so the lolifags will be satisfied, if only for a while.

>>169807994
lol

>>169808103
I understand that logic I just find it funny. It's obvious nobody even cares anymore except the shitposters and they're not even going to make a game for the jam anyway.

>>169807867
>"I'm making that game"
>"Nice but that's not the genre I'm familiar with. Good luck"

>>169807994
how are we going to fight off this loli menace? we need an attack plan

>>169808434
complain about it on /qa/ and apply for mod positions so we can change 4chan from the inside out

>>169807994
Ever since steamchat moved to discord agdg has lost a lot of it's cohesion. The inmates are running the asylum now and nobody really cares.

>>169807006
what is a spaceship doing in an Egyptian temple?

>>169808529
perfect. you go do that and i will work on getting the other agdg devs to join our cause

>>169794621
I was going to have my girl's sword get bigger the more you kill, but maybe she might start as loli and grow the more you kill. Keep your loli pure and young through the game, maybe. I'd like it as another skin but it sounds like a whole other set of work

>>169808530
I'm too busy working on my game to work on a side-jam game. Also worth noting that at least a fair amount of the loli posts are samefag trying to troll the thread because

>lul you guys hate lolidev right right well now you are the lolidev how's it feel senpai? u mad? umadbro?!

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Google Drive folder update, are you ready for a miracle edition.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6j4pcv3V-vfb3hKSlhRRzlLbFE

What miracle?, you may ask. Two amazing anons with outstanding artistic skills visited the general, and like angels descending from the high Heavens, they gave the blessing of fan arts for those who seemed worthy.

- Mogisho fan art started, but hasn't finished according to my knowledge
- I'm sorry, but the misc folder just got bigger again. I should lurk more
- Game design, motivation etc.
- Wizmud got a fan art
- An anon got some horrible artwork from his artist, and /agdg/ went wild on "improving" the abomination
- A cool anon drew fan art for those who asked for it: Guncat, Umbrella Warriors, one I couldn't identify
- Another marvelous anon made a group picture about those OCs who were browsing the thread, and also drew some monster designs

Thank you for your hard work, and thank you, devs, for the inspirations!

Keep it up!

>>169808759
I thought so too but all you need is 3 of them to join in with eachother and next thing you know agdg's next jam is loli jam with 4 whole entrants. If you let retards "troll" about a topic like this for a month they will take full ownership of it. Agdg is out of control!!!!

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>>169802278
does anyone have any suggestions on what i could change the player character to?

chibi is an improvement over what i had, but it still doesnt look right

would link from windwaker fit my art style ok? :)

or should i try and go with something like fire emblem fates style characters?

>>169808594
that's a very good question. play to find out.

>>169808831
>still no fanart of anything I've done in agdg
I'm used to it.

>>169809137
Should've requested fanart when you had the chance

>>169808831
I come here quite literally every day and I still don't recognize most of these.

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>>169809137
Post game/screens. I'll make you fan-art if I can get a few minutes free from typing up a storm and trying to get more interactivity shoved in to >>169807342

>>169809215
i can recognize them
The zombiedemonthing from the HD prerendered 3D-graphics fps
umbrella cats, punished patrick
the comfy rpg girl, is she an alchemist?, the weird ass ghost monk from the Voshin game or whatever
the other guys are relatively new posters

>>169809438
forgot to say the astronault feels familiar but i don't remember where its from. i don't know the spaceship

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>>169809215
>>169809556
The astronaut is from my game.

Well technically it's not in it yet but it will be a character in the far future when I start doing the campaign.

>>169807237
I've gotten to the stage where I can make props and stuff. Anything which isn't organic or animated, and it looks acceptable. But man, characters? Just kill me now.

>>169809660
This game looks really intriguing, can't way to play it!

I come here everyday as well and I must admit I am not following a single game here. Beyond recognizing colors and shapes in progress post thumbnails as being similar I don't pay any attention to progress here. I don't post progress here either.

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>Save a new version of project
>Test it, works fine
>Add one line of code, test again
>Broke completely
>Delete that one line, test again
>Still broken
Why does this happen?

>>169809840
Why would you pay attention to any of the games here? All your energy is spent on your shitposting, right?

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>>169807006
stuck since coding is harder than i thought.
just like drawing
and coming with good ideas. going to watch a few more tutorials today about the engine and scripting.

>>169809963
It's not for lack of energy that I don't follow games here it's lack of interest.

>>169809840
seems like a great use of your time

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>>169794416
Yanderedev is partnering with tinyBuild now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlrXMgi8Fqo

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Made some new tunes!

Regular battle: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/morningstar

Boss battle: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/firestarter

Big boss battle: https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/peoples-champ

Pls give feedback

>>169809963
>>169810237
Nobody is obligated to pay attention to or post progress. I come here to discuss gamedev things.

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>>169807006
Slowing down coding-wise but accelerating concept wise as demo day closes in, along with my finals.
But otherwise good, pretty normal.

>>169810427
That's fine. What you're posting right now is not.

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>>169809556
I think that space ship is from Skylarks, but I'm not sure.

>>169810258
Transitioning to lead director of the game now and isn't going to be even touching the IDE anymore I bet. Yanderedev has moved to the pruney old man side of gamedev, the todd howard side, the molyneux and will wright ideaguy side.

>>169808831
aren't cat wizard and guncat the same game?

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>>169807006
Not bad. Got keyboard controls implemented and some other minor improvements, but not much progress aside from that. Gonna start working on a test boss later.

Kinda wanna submit this to DD13 to hopefully get some gameplay feedback.

>>169810581
Fuck off word police.

>>169810258
I adore how much confidence he has in his project, and how he builds it up to be some sort of sensation.

But maybe I'm just jealous, I don't know.

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Took me hours to make this shit

1174 verts

How does demo day work? people that submitted, does anyone download the games?

>>169810324
Pretty cool sprites, listening to the tunes right now.

>>169810921
Obviously yes.

>>169810921
Depends on a lot of things but you can expect anywhere from 1 to 1000 downloads on your DD submission.

DemoDay works like this: You sign up to participate. The deadline on Itch hits and submission period opens. Post your game on itch during this time and/or submit it to the DD-"jam". Tell people about it here. Maybe receive useful feedback.

>>169810775
They look similar, I give you that, but I'm not sure. Thank you for noticing!

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>>169811046
Thanks anon! Here's my old sprite portfolio.

>>169811114
thx for info! will be fun.

Seeking opinions from folks who like playing DemoDay games or are intending on checking out at least one game in the upcoming DemoDay.

http://poal.me/o2el2a

>>169810921
All you do is upload a game to itch.io and submit it to the demo day page.
Number of downloads depends on your game, if your game looks good, if the page looks nice, it will get more downloads. It can vary from 30~ to 1000+ downloads.

>>169810795
Knowing AGDG you'll mostly get torn a new one.

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Witch is more or less done!
I need to come up with her name

>>169810704
That thumbnail looks like a fat chode.

>>169807072
I hope these patterns are procgenned and you didn't manually do all that

>>169809292
can you draw me a cute cat sprite for my game

>>169810258
He's still calling everyone working on the project besides himself "volunteers" even though he's paying many of them. That's quite pathological.

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Does anyone know anything about leaf generation for trees? It seems like something that would have been heavily studied but I really don't know much about it.

>>169811683
Show gamescreens and we'll both find out.

>>169810324
Sounds pretty good, they definitely have a strong theme.

The thing that most struck me as negative is the introduction of the main theme in the first song. Like, I get what you're trying to do with the silence before jumping into the theme and the idea is good, but the implementation of the idea feels clumsy. It sounds to me like the attack of the theme is on an off-beat and it makes it sound like you stumble into the theme instead of strongly attacking it. Try experimenting with the length of the silence as well as the beat of the attack to see if that could make it stronger.

>>169808831
The ship is from Shmoop 2

>>169811758

Well actually, I guess I mean more about where leaves tend to be placed upon trees. It seems like you'd place them as offshoots of lower order branches, but I'm not really aware of the biology behind it.

>>169811258
>>169810921
I don't know where this sudden fear from Demo Day comes.

Demo Day is named badly. There are only a few games each time which could be called actual demos. Many of them are usually just prototypes. There are always a handful where you can barely walk around in an empty environment.

Don't get me wrong, I fucking love demo days, even if I have nothing to show. However if you have a game, you should look it as an opportunity to get free play testers. The "oh, your OC looks so cute" type of feedback in the generals worth jack shit. It's not arts general, it's a video game development general, hence your game has to be played in order to be properly judged.

So whatever half assed piece of garbage you have, put it out. If you see low download numbers, then directly ask for feedback in the current thread. Demo Day is not about shilling or gain a name, it's about helping each other out and have fun.

>>169811887
Yeah, it's a trick I took from Meguro's bag. I guess you have to be a pro like him to pull it off. Thanks for the feedback!

>>169811758
You do realize that trees aren't 3 feet wide when they start growing right?

>>169810795
>>169811519
>Knowing AGDG you'll mostly get torn a new one.

Not at all. I want to play his game. I loved Wild Guns. Please do submit it!

>>169811758
It's literally just the last leg of your fractal process. 3d trees split in the third dimension too, so the canopy appears full

>>169812073

Yeah, I know. I only started the growth code yesterday - it's just generating the full tree from the underlying one at the moment and growing it, where it should be scaling the branch width and length across time.

>>169812118

That makes sense, actually. I suppose I'll make a modification for it in 3d as I doubt that'll take me long. Thanks for the advice.

>>169812073
Does that webm look like an attempt at representing the growth of a tree in real time to you? You think he was trying to make a realistic depiction of a tree growing up from a seed and ended up with that webm? Are you fucking retarded?

>>169810324
I'm not a specialist in music or anything, but this is what I thought about it:

Morningstar:
>[0:32~0:57] Like this part. before and after it, the music is kinda dead.
Maybe try giving it a sudden fast start(to put the player into mood), and then slowly build up to the tune in 0:32.

Firestarter:
>[0:36]like this part
>Like the start, gets better but gets dead at [1:22]

>People's Champ
>Felt kinda bland overrall
Maybe adding more chorus, and less guitar.

Maybe its me, but in both Morningstar and Firestarter, I got some of that feeling when I hear touhou tunes at the parts that liked. Pretty cool tunes, keep up the good work!

>>169812246

Eh, no need to be aggressive, but basically. I've been working on understanding how to realistically generate trees first before I work on the grow pattern of them and the way branches split - I think that makes more sense than trying to grow something I don't understand to begin with.

It's nowhere near finished, which is evident, so I think his critique is fair in its own right, out of context.

>>169812334
>I got some of that feeling when I hear touhou tunes

>I got some of that feeling when I hear touhou tunes at the parts that liked

I know exactly what you're talking about and that's some of the best praise I've ever heard. Thanks for the feedback!

>>169811758
Nope but that looks super cool

>>169812040
Created the poll to see what people are expecting out of DD. So far it's a pretty uneven spread - there's definite favor on polished/complete sections of play.

>>169812591

I'll be posting my (no doubt disgustingly inefficient) source code when I'm done, as well as an explanation of the maths and process behind it. It's a way off completion but I'll post it here when it is. Thanks for that though :^)

>>169811534
Dorothy

>>169812414
What you have is an animation of a tree being revealed. Your final trees are decent imo.

For a realtime tree, each limb (and trunk) segment starts at 0 length and width, and grows over time. New branches are added over time, once their parent branches are long enough.

>>169812685
Your polls are asinine and I'm sure a significant portion of posters ignore or hide them to avoid the drama they incite.

>>169812706
nice!! everybody needs some background trees

>>169812757

Yeah, indeed - the growth process isn't anywhere near done yet. I just put something together recently to make it not just instantly appear and to capture the process of branch generation order to some extent.

Don't worry, I don't think that's how trees grow. I've never planted a tree base :^)

>>169812794
This is the first poll I've posted since... October I think? Whoever you're mad at, it isn't me.

>>169812706
What purpose does it serve? To what extent will this be implemented into a game?

Fuck. i posted my game on my engine's forum. Got 2 replies, now i dont want anything really, but what really kills me is some shit game, motherfuckers first game thread etc get bunch of comments and people acting hype. fucking internet man.

>>169812907
Fyi that face is filtered by many fine posters of this general. Although straight s*posting has been low recently, I think he's moved on to OTHER means for the time being.

>>169811534
Something to do with pink.

Maybe Taffy?

>>169813036
you seem to be suffering from attention whoreitis. i recommend that you take a step back and reconsider your life choices

>>169813036
Unless you plan to craft your game specifically to garner that type of response, don't spend your time obsessing over somebody else's replies (you big bitch).

The furry visual novel got the most consistent (you)'s when it was being posted here, that doesn't mean it's not a piece of shit game. Same with the shitty lizard cooking game, same with the shitty dog fucking game. Just ignore it and keep devving.

>>169813054

Oh. Whoops, I haven't posted on /vg/ in about two years. I'll try and avoid using it, thanks for the heads up.

>>169812947

For now at least it's its own purpose - I wanted to write some code where you'd start with a few base trees and cross-breed them to try and get a tree with optimal characteristics according to the amount of sun it receives and the amount of wood it would produce from cutting it. I think eventually when it's sufficiently efficient I might be able to use it as a part of a deeper management game, but I haven't got anywhere near that stage yet and want to keep my ambitions from being overwhelming. I really just like generating stuff on the fly and making it efficient enough to be practical, so for now, that's the aim.

>>169810775
>>169811117
it's all guncat

>>169812093
Well i'll be...

I was NOT aware that was a Wild Guns in the works.

Seconded. Submit.

>>169813624
>>169810775
Thank you, anons. Will apply the changes.

>>169811758
google "L-systems"

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>>169807006
Progress is slow, but it's better than no progress. I've improved the way backgrounds are handled, which means I should actually draw some backgrounds now.

Also started working on a new enemy.

https://clyp.it/3ex0uizc

I will probably be using this for the final scene in the game where the player EXPLODES A DYSON SPHERE AND FLIES AWAY.

>>169813812

Yeah, I read his book a few years back. It's pretty useful to that end, but I was more interested in the way that leaves distribute on the branches of a tree, something I haven't really found a satisfactory answer to anywhere. Some places suggest using the lowest order branches and replacing them with leaves, which seems an okay solution in a sort of hacked-together way.

Ok, having an issue spawning a powerup after it is picked up the first time. It is important to note, multiple obj_powerup objects are in the same instance.

What I'm trying to do is as soon as one is touched by player, it disappears for 5 seconds then comes back.

http://pastebin.com/nNTWZkK4

I've also replaced the visible = false; and alarm [1] with an instance_destroy code, and then tried using alarm[1] to activate instance_create, but it never worked.

If I destroy the object, how do I bring it back 5 seconds after destroyed?

If I am going to use the visible true/false code, how do I make it to where the object can no longer be interacted with while it is invisible?

>>169811519
That's fine, demo day wouldn't be very effective if were one big hugbox.

>>169812093
>>169813784
Thanks, I think I will.

>get recommended shadowplay from /agdg/ for webm recording
>ok cool
>go to download nvidia experience
>need to update my driver
>update my nvidia driver
>suddenly my graphics is fucked
>rollback the update ASAP
>graphics are still fucked (colored pixel glitching, crashes, occasional BSOD)
>google the problem
>apparently its a common problem with my nvidia graphics card and the driver, and the only solution is to send it in and get a new one
>don't have my warranty or any money to fix it

>forced to use integrated graphics now for anything to be playable
>unity looks like shit and framerate is shit
>substance painter looks like shit and framerate is shit
>even blender framerate drops if I work on large models

thanks guys. consider my game cancelled.

I can see why pixelshit is so popular.

>>169804858
>>169804760
>>169804567
>>169804210

Are there what should I start reading if I want to learn to use gamemaker properly and not just watch and copy from youtube tutorials. Maybe I'm just bad at googling but I havent found a complete list of gammaker commdands and what they do and hopefully how to use them.

>>169813971
Oh, also, alarm code is simply:
visible = true;

>>169813825
Are MC animations final, or do you plan on working on them some more. I wouldn't mind a half second squat before she jumps. Maybe a landing pose.

I don't know much about animation, and it could just be me, but as is, she looks like she just gets a shit load of momentum out of nowhere.

Otherwise, i really like the spritework. Backgrounds would be most welcoming at this point. Maybe even make a few low bushes for the foreground?

>>169814084
>Maybe I'm just bad at googling but I havent found a complete list of gammaker commdands and what they do and hopefully how to use them.
Damn dude are you for real?

https://docs.yoyogames.com/

Virtually everything there is to know about game maker. You can also middle click on nearly anything when you're using the IDE and it will take you to the documentation page for that thing.

>>169814217
> You can also middle click on nearly anything when you're using the IDE and it will take you to the documentation page for that thing.
*assuming you're in a code window writing GML

Do any 3D modeling programs support touch inputs?

I would like to use my Surface Pro's touch screen to orbit, pan, and zoom while I use the pen basically as a mouse.

I haven't enjoyed 3D modeling any of the times I gave it a good chance because I don't feel close enough to my art. I need to feel like I'm physicall interacting with it, like when I get to draw with my Surface pen directly on the screen, as if I'm actually drawing.

>>169813971
Stop using alarms and instead make a counter variable.

Something like this:

Powerup step event:

if(!visible)
{
if(count >= 300)
{
visible = true;
}
count++;
}
else
{
count = 0;
}

>>169814001
>shadowplay
you fell for a meme that doesn't exist
everyone recommends obs

I'm really new to becoming a yesdev, but I've been taking it really seriously.

Is it a bad idea to make your first big project comedic and simple to hide your faults as an early game dev? I read a few things awhile ago saying that, as an artist, you should never use comedy to mask your flaws, only to add to content.

Although, I'm obviously going to have a lot of flaws with my first game like most devs, so I felt comedy to mask the flaws is also somewhat adding content, not just hiding mistakes.

Unity is giving me this warning

There was a mismatch between the processor architecture of the project being build "MSIL" and the processor architecture of the reference "XInputDotPure," "x86".

And telling me to go into the configuration manager. Where is that?

>>169814559
Nobody cares. Do whatever.

Ayy, yo, /agdg/, lemme get sum tips on making good color palette for muh pixel art, ya hear?
Please? ;_;

>>169814559
either get good or mask your flaws to sell yourself
honesty is for perfect uberhumans and losers

>>169813825
The style on the background feels consistent, but the MC feels out of place with it being the only cartoon proportioned thing in the game.

Also, I would work on some variations of the scenario sprites.

>>169814559
There's no "yes or no" answer to this. If you can write humor then it will be an asset to your game, unless it conflicts with the tone too much, unless that conflict creates a juxtaposition that people enjoy, unless unless unless.

>>169814559
Comedy is fine as long as it's not overly self-deprecating like some anons like to do.

>>169814207
I think I'll touch up her sprites later, when I have decided which moves are final and which will be scrapped.

>I don't know much about animation
Honestly, me neither. I've been learning as I go and her basic movement sprites are the oldest assets in the game as well.

>Maybe even make a few low bushes for the foreground?
I could do that yeah, foreground layers are already implemented in the game as well, all that's missing is the art.

>>169814430
Sorry, I'm fairly new to this and not sure if I understood your code.

I put your code at the beginning of my code and removed my visible and alarm code. The powerup never went away after colliding with player.

>>169814671
1. Take screenshot
2. Open in Photoshop
3. Filter -> Pixellate -> Mosaic
4. Cell size = 200

>>169814730
>>169814739
Thanks, anons. I'll just start with limiting the comedy to be fitting within the context of the game and keep it minimal, and expand from there, if necessary.

>>169814784
He provided you with pseudocode, not real code. It's an outline of a basic concept.

>>169802212
Yeah there are a lot of retards that are against it for some silly reason

>>169814671
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6j4pcv3V-vfdXdaaTNMZmE3Mk0
Helpful > Art and color theory

>>169815215
DAESH jam when

>>169815323
What's daesh?

>>169815215
where is yo game

>>169814717
>MC feels out of place with it being the only cartoon proportioned thing in the game.
I hadn't really thought of that, though I've occasionally been thinking I should make the enemies look more cartoony.

>Also, I would work on some variations of the scenario sprites.
Yeah, it's one thing that's been on my to-do list for a while. Haven't really worked on the tileset after DD10.

>>169814993
K, then I'm not sure what the code would be, that's what my question was asking for.

>>169815426
Here >>169811534, why?

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>>169814784
When the powerup is picked up make it not visible.

The step event code I posted checks if it's not visible
If it isn't then it checks the count variable
If it's more than or equal to 300 then it sets the object to visible
If it is less than 300 then it adds one to count

If the item is already visible then it sets count back to zero

>>169814993
That exact code should actually work in GM, it would actually be better to remove the count = 0 and put it in together with the visible = true;

Pic shows it in a better way I guess.

>>169815523
>squaredev once responded to where is your game question
>now every shitter latches onto him
hmm

>>169815573
But I am squaredev.

>>169815525
>framerate bound code
KYS

>>169815315
Oh, wow, that's a lot of awesome shit.
Thanks, m8.

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>>169815789
I knew it was coming.

>>169815323
Never. Fuck off sandnigger shill.

>>169815372
ISIS

I just made a Tumblr. Link me your Tumblr pages so I can follow your shitty projects.

>>169815946
I don't have shitty projects.

>>169815525
Oh, sorry, maybe I mis-explained. I can get it to be visible and non-visible and then back to visible again.

What I can't figure out is how to deactivate the power up while it is invisible. Right now, you can stand on the powerup while it is invisible and it just remains powering up the player.

I've also tried using if statements to activate and deactivate powerup based on the visible variable. But it either doesn't work or it prevents the respawn of the power up entirely pending on how I code it.

>>169815789
Not that anon, but how do you avoid framerate bound code?
I'm new to this, so I haven't messed with that stuff, yet.

>>169815946
I'd post mine but I never update my tumblr so it would be pointless to follow it.

>>169814776
Neat. Looking forward to seeing the assets. Don't be scared to just Art for a day or two.

>>169815886
Well... It's bad practice for reasons far too numerous to list.

>>169816007
Then let me see you pretty projects, princess~

>>169816089
Post more often, faget.
Build a small following.

>>169816047
if(visible)

that's it

>>169816059
I think they are talking about using delta time

>>169815886
Someone was bitching at him yesterday because he doesn't have delta-timed code. agdg has zero concept of what it was like when they first learned coding and assumes that what works for them now should work for complete novices who are just trying to learn how to wrangle the fucking program.

>>169815789
>delta time in gaymaker
wasn't there one anon who quit making a bullet hell because he couldn't deal with the irregularities properly

>>169816059
Just ignore it for now and focus on becoming comfortable with simpler concepts. At this early stage you won't benefit from layering on additional complexity.

>>169816210
rock the fuck on man! thanks.

>>169816285
Oh, that makes sense.
Why is the default for every engine, without using the delta time thing, 30 FPS?

You'd think it would be 60 FPS because that's becoming such a common standard.

>Used = on a list instead of .Copy();

whoops. I think all my code may be fucked. Good think there's barely any of it.

>>169815946
Post yours first so we can follow it.

>>169817117
That doesn't even get close to not using virtual deconstructors or sharing pointers to vector elements.

If i'm using Numpad emulation in Blender, what's the fucking key for focus selected?

>>169817237
I have literally nothing on it, yet. I'm new to game dev and I'm gonna start posting practice projects that I'm actually proud of, once I get to them, rather than the boring shit I've been working on.

>>169816320
>>169816460
delta time is not a difficult concept
i would understand the upset if i was suggesting switching to properly typed language where you can typedef yourself a time type or start dealing in absolute times everywhere, but dt?

>>169816370
wow, not sure if i should laugh at that. did he not try a detached simulation?

>>169808831
Good work anon! It's great to see some ppl contributing so much to this community.

should I use a rigid body + force for a 2D bullet projectile?

seems like a lot of extra stuff for just adding forward velocity to an object.

and if so, how do I automatically accelerate it to the max velocity on initiate?

>>169817601
>delta time is not a difficult concept
For someone still getting comfortable with the concept of making their own variables? Get your head out of your ass.

>>169817780
from
count++
to
count+=dt

really brutal change

>>169817780
>>169818165
if anything thinking about it early will save some heartache

>>169818165
Not that anon, but I agree with him.
You're right that it's not that complicated, but it's really important to take baby steps, unless you personally are more comfortable moving faster than that.

Most people take baby steps when getting their feet wet in new content they're learning. Just because something is important to learn, doesn't mean they need to learn it immediantly, just that they need to be aware that it should be one of the many baby steps along the way and not to skip it.

>>169818165
Error: variable dt is not defined

>>169818165
You gotta remember that the ENTIRE game will have to rely on delta time and you will have to deal with instability related to it, thinking it's as easy as slapping it on counters is a classic rookie mistake.

>>169817698
Thank you for saying that, anon!

>>169818450
okay, if it was first square moving on screen that would be fair, but this is for fucking powerups reappearing. that means powerups already work

>>169818508
if you structure your code well, no, you don't have to remember that

My game is boring. fuck me it's depressing.

>>169817732
okay I'm using
transform.position = transform.position+transform.up * moveSpeed);

that should be fine right?

>>169811662
dumb comment

>>169819454
It's okay, I like boring games.

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After another few hours of plugging away, you can now exit the inventory without discarding a new item, in the event you pick up a new item and have no way at all to fit it into your inventory.

Also discarding works. Gonna try to get manually combining stuff working next, but item descriptions/examining might have to wait til later.

>>169819517
Multiply it by Time.deltaTime unless you're doing that in a fixedupdate loop.

>>169820054
Holy fucking polish.

Is this Uncanny Valley dev?

>>169820085
was doing it in update actually.

Do I just like make a void outside update and just start it in start?

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>>169802278

>>169820054
Do you have a Tumblr or something? This looks like a fun game.

>>169820152
Stupid post.

>>169820243
I'm not sure I understand. If you toss that in Update you should be fine, assuming you multiply it by deltaTime like I suggested.

>>169820152
Aww thanks anon. Nah, Jasozz here. Only other major project I've had on here is Dungeon Break

>>169820404
I do! jasozz.tumblr.com

>>169820482
well it's in update and it's moving.
Don't see why it needs a delta time when it changes position every frame?

>>169820593
>Don't see why it needs a delta time
'cause you're getting memed on

>>169820682
actually it looks kind of smoother now I suppose.

>>169820593
Because if your framerate doubles, your projectile will move twice as fast. I suggest you look further into what Time.deltaTime does for you.

>>169820781
actually I get the problem now.

you're saying keep it fixed to the game clock instead of the update frame count.
it won't be noticeable too much but it's just a better practice thing right?

>>169820738
remember your training
a = f / m
v = a * t
d = v * t

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Small progress today, I made a mistake of not bringing the rest of the props and assets into the right perspective as the character, gone through and made them proper 3/4 perspective. How do you guys handle collision in this perspective? currently the "front" of the assets are seperate object that dont got no collision detection allowing the player to walk over them.

>>169810875
I hope to do this for my player character

>>169820957
Yes, exactly. It may not be noticeable to you now, but it can cause serious headaches later for people who get a different frame rate than you.

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How political is your game, /agdg/?

Are you doing your part to make the world a better place with your level design?

>>169821143
Dunno what you program in but it doesn't have to be a separate object. You can have a collision mask that doesn't match your sprite.

up 2 u tho

>>169821196
thank you anon for clearing this up.

I should put this in a fixed update then right?

>>169821334
>that last discussion about GDC was nice and shitposty
>I think I'd like to revisit that headspace

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>>169807072
>>169811662
ok

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Today's gamedev drawing progress ^w^

>>169821334
My main character is genociding all non-humans because they're destroying the gene pool.

it's great.

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I guess I can't into character design.
Any tips other than just adding a fucking scarf on it?

>>169821334
Yup 100% Aryan

>>169821572
eat a fish to make your robes its texture :)

>>169821334
can you stop watching GDC talks, tryhard

>>169821727
add a cute, frilly skirt

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>>169821727
Tell me what you're character is supposed to tell me about himself when I look at him?

because what I see is generic, like litterally it's supposed to tell me they're generic. Everything about that character is "i'm neutral"

it's actually really impressive.

>>169821334
>How political is your game, /agdg/?
200%

>>169821727
Tell me more about who he is and what he's all about.

>>169821334
It's set in a dark fantasy world and there's politics yeah. Questions of cruelty vs. necessity in a materials-scarce society that treats its resources better than most of its people, where traditions are law, and so on and so forth.

Unreal devs, why aren't you developing for Switch

>>169821334
The main characters motivation is to kill everyone that doesn't look like himself.

it works out surprisingly well for them.

>>169821334
>that meme slide
>he doesnt understand the meme so he doesnt understand that this implies SJW's are stupid little children

In responce to your question, not at all.

Actually my main character doesn't have a gender. Not because they are a freak, just because it makes it so much easier to slap clothes on top of it and call it whatever gender the clothes are.

>>169821850
This. Who cares what is being said at GDC?

>>169822076
Haven't bothered updating to 4.15 yet

Will probably do it soon

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>>169821727
Make the character a product of their environment or lifestyle. What they wear should compliment what they want to do - or who they'd like to be - or the people that surround them.

That's the fastest way to establish a base for yoru character design. Everything else is individual accents that caters to each character.

>>169822150
>he doesnt understand the meme so he doesnt understand that this implies SJW's are stupid little children

this the ironing is real.
It's like talking yourself up by saying how verbose you are with your words.

like.

>>169821629
Your game slowly turns me into gay, anon. Please, stop. I'm not even ironic. Those thighs almost gave me an erection.

Just starting out.

how hard would it be to do a fo neural network and machine learning?

>>169821334
The political agenda of SJWs at GDC is embarrassing but you are just as bad as them seeing as how you hang on their every word looking for ways to be shocked and outraged. Who gives a fuck?

>>169822029
>>169821971
The character was a mercenary for deep underground exploration, but now he's probably the last human left in the world after lots of time in confinement.
It's hard to say about the personality, because it's more about immersion, but other than that it should have a feel of isolation.