/indie/ - Indie And Obscure Games General

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Because I really fucking hate when the thread just suddenly dies on me.

>>169640457
Mindshrooms for example are bioluminescent, and yeah, I guess the ceilings could be covered in mushrooms, or something like the glowworms in New Zealand, but simple light is not enough, they'd have to produce UVB, and lots of it, in order to help with vitamin D.

For example if you spend all day in a basement, turning on the light won't help. In a less drastic example, simply not going outdoors is enough to develop vitamin D deficiency, even though it is not actually dark in your room during the day. Smog or shit weather too. For example Sweden is so fucking dark, that it's pretty fucking important to get vitamin D from other sources if you spend a longer time there. That's why they add it to milk and stuff.

And then all the UVB in the world can't help you if you don't allow it to reach your skin. You can spend all day standing in the sun in the middle of the Sahara, if you are covered from head to toe you are just as fucked. Vitamin D deficiency is kind of a pretty common issue with muslims.

Even solariums usually use UVA instead of UVB. Most full spectrum lights available today are great to treat shit like winter depression, but they can do fuck all to help with vitamin D synthesis. I don't remember the exact number, but it was something like spending an 8 hour worktime in an office with full spectrum lighting will be about as effective for vitamin D synthesis as spending 1 minute outside in the sun. So yeah.

tl;dr bioluminescent mushrooms almost certainly wouldn't help.

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goddamnite thread you fuckers

>>169649871
i wanna fuck cats

>>169648575
Vitamin D from sunlight can't be that big of a deal. Think of nuclear submarine crews, miners, etc.

>>169650628
It is a pretty big deal. Problem is, without sunlight the only way you can get it is from food. A miner or submarine crew can get enough from food and supplements to somehow get by, but food won't have vitamin D either without sunlight. That's why I brought up deep sea fishes in the previous thread. They might be able to synthesize it without UVB, but they still need blue light. Which you won't get in deep water in a cave many miles underground.

So a station that can treat food with UV radiation, or use proper lighting can get around this problem. But not the zoners living in shantytown eating Tchort knows what in their barrel soups.

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>>169650356
i don't understand

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Looking for feed back on my epilepsy inducing of a game.

>>169651396
i wanna do lewd things with a cat

>>169651414
Like, do you really expect anyone to play that? I don't play games to get an epilepsy attack. This shit should be illegal.

>>169651660
Just ANY cat?

>>169651684
Going for a niche.

>>169652130
as long as they're not anthro

http://www.thejimquisition.com/a-statement-regarding-romine-v-stantons-dismissal-with-prejudice/

The case has been dismissed

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Who /hollow knight/ in here.

There was a guy complaining (elsewhere) about how punishing and monotonous the game is. I told him to "get good" and he got real offended".

Apparently I caught up to where he was... and it was a cake walk. Sure it would have been monotonous if I kept dying / didn't find benches... but that didn't happen.

Feels good.

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>[random reaction GIF tagged with WTF]

>>169640457
>I thought it was just 2 sergeants and 1 LT?

No, it's 3S/1L. I also screwed up that sentence a lil' bit, I meant to say you can have 4 officers maximum BUT the 4th one can only be obtainable if you turn an Sgt to Lieut THEN promote a Veteran to Sgt. Tricky, as your biggest investment (1k XP) is not the final one.

>Also, spoiler alert so you don't waste your XP

Thanks, but I already ran into this. Unfortunately, not even the devs remember to the other condition. One said high (20) morale, but a user reported s(he) left even with 25 (!) Morale. The other dev claimed a certain level of Diplomacy, but didn't tell the exact value.

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>bored of Stardew already

It's only my second day

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I really want this game to be good. Although I guess I'm a little surprised that it'll even get released. Probably. I never had much faith in the project.

>>169659592
Did you like Harvest Moon? Did you even play it? I found that Harvest Moon kinda soured my experience with Stardew Valley because I knew everything was just a little bit worse...

>>169651414
Nice.

>>169660972
Yeah I played Harvest Moon but it's been awhile and last time I played HM I was really annoyed by it

/indie/ is dead. Long live /indie/!

I got Stardew a few days ago. Any major tips I should know?

>>169667096
Listen to all the coolest podcasts

>>169667315
What? There is podcasts ingame?

>>169667096
Everything is pretty self explanatory...

>>169667582
lmao

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Getting ready to head to Deep Caverns. It doesn't make any difference if I pick preservationist or rassophore, right?

>>169656735

Yeah, I had max leadership, then had 1 LT and 2 Sgs, so I could have 20 leadership. Then I started having a scholar build tents to boost the leadership even higher but the champion still fucked off.

The first time I played it years ago, the champion didn't do that, but I have no idea what caused him to stay.

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Be honest with me boys

Is NITW shit

I've heard it's really heavy on the hipster antifa communist dumbass shit, and that sounds really unappealing to sit through, but it also looks charming and interesting, so I'm split

>>169637089
Compared to OFF the thing that most sticks out is that Hylics is still a very JRPG game in the story and structure. It gets spiced up though by some unique mechanics like enemies staying dead, havin to die to grind your meat into HP or one character getting additional HP and I think strength by eating bugs. NPCs can have randomised dialogue but needed info is always given without randomisation.

>>169678721
The game sure has a communist/socialist aspect, but it's much more about the dissociation between child and adult world. Gameplay wise it's boring but i still is a very good game in my opinion

>>169637826
Aquaria got a really cheerful and enjoyable exploring early and mid game. The more you advance the more nerve wrecking the levels become to explore with all the deep sea eldrich horrors.
>. Also one of the abilities you get is teleportation
You mean the turtle?

>>169678721
You are a big boy. Stop getting triggered so hard by a fly outside your bubble.

>>169678721
yeah but it's just "kids being contrarian"

>>169679849
I play games to escape all the retarded political shit people spew constantly. The illustrator is a hardcore antifa guy on Twitter so I was worried the stuff in the game might be really blunt and preachy and opinionated, but if it's just kids being contrarian then that's probably tolerable. It's not like I don't like LISA or Nuclear Throne because of the opinions of their creators, but that's because they lack those opinions forced in, so if NITW doesn't, that's good.

>>169680416
Get a diaper really.

>>169680456
Why don't you go jump in the ocean buddy

Salt water, get healed

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I love it when fucking /indie/ of all places turns into a salt fest.

In other news, still digging Hollow Knight. Runs ever so slightly on my computer though. Fuck.

>>169680878
>tfw salt well immediately dried up

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>>169678721

Yeah, it's critical of an economic system that let their small town go down the shitter and promises them no actual chance of things getting better. They also hate facists like anyone should. If this bothers you, good, fuck you and your backwards, easily triggered bullshit. But, no, don't play it, because I actually liked the game and you probably don't deserve it.

>>169667096
get the good QoL mods

>>169650356
>>169651660
Well then I have a short story for you.

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Where can I find old obscure gamemaker games that used to be on yoyogames? This one is called Painajainen, it's a small collectathon/metroidvania. I want to replay it because it had nice music.

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>>169686301
Forgot pic.

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>>169637089
It's about as good but it's primarily an aesthetic experience. Don't expect much of a deep story since all the text is randomly-generated gibberish.

It's good fun though, with nice environments, enemy designs and music. It's not too expensive too.

>>169637089
>I'm not sure if it's worth the time commitment
It's pretty short (iirc 2-5 hours). I'm glad I played it, in any case.

>>169686782
>picture got their retarded body movements down
Nice.

>tfw my revolver build from the last got entirely ignored
>tfw no face
It died so young.

>>169686782
okay thanks.

>>169687440
Wait there are revolvers? Fuck me I played Underrail too soon.

>>169687440
I've read it, I just couldn't think of anything to add. It's a pretty gimmick build. Like, I had to look up the weapon because I didn't even remember it exists. Actually, until now I didn't even know it existed. I don't fuck with Wyatt.

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SWALLOW IT

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=870695568

This looks promising

>>169692565
Is it a horror walking sim?
Otherwise graphics remind me of paper sorcerer and atmosphere kinda reminds me of World of Goo and the other games by the dev.

>>169685081
>Being this mad about someone else being mad
Unironic Commies could be a perpetual energy source if they exerted that effort on anything but their even worse economic system.

>>169694532
It looks like Amnesia with a early cartoon aesthetic.

Was Magic Wand ever uploaded?

>>169696790
It's on gamejolt, no?

>>169691178
lovely

>>169688674
Only one, it's unique. It' also very easy to miss.

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Switch seems to be getting huge indie support. It will kill the vita with this and will have strong 3rd party support.

>>169705401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-mFODSa2VM

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>>169705401
>Steamworld Dig 2

>>169705401
Considering it's a console aimed for the ultramobile market it's not really surprising. Besides, Nintendo's self-developed NVN won't be the devs only option. They joined to Khronos Group in 2k15, so the odds is that Switch will support their APIs (Vulkan / OpenGL) too.

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>>169685081
You have to be 18 to use this site, Mr. An-Expensive-Unnecessary-Luxury-is-Equivalent-to-Necessary-Sustenance.

>>169692565
>an old-timey cartoon aesthetic but it's first-person
Actually seems pretty neat, don't think that's been done before

>>169692565
>action/puzzle/horror

What a weird combination.

>>169709950
Not really. Amnesia was already brought up as an equivalent, but those three vague genres could describe things like Resident Evil, Silent Hill, and Dead Space, too.

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>>169692565
Oh this reminds me

Is Cuphead /indie/? It's due this year.

>>169711303
Yes it is.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/588210/

Started somewhat buggy, and the developers did not run away... it's got potential, hope it will become a full fledged game.

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Hey guys, my 10 year old sister agreed to go to comicon as Buddy so now I need to make a Rando costume for myself.

What would make a proper hood? I was thinking a hard hat with a foam spike glued on top and then have a black sheet over it.

>>169713919
Turn a bucket upside down and cut a whole for your face/mask in it.

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>>169713919
I'd go for one of those simple bike helmets like this one. A hard hat is gonna have those slight protrusions on the top that might look kinda weird if the sheet is thin.

>>169714924
Sounds better. I'll be ordering the mask soon so that'll help see if I can wear a mask and helmet together.

>>169686379
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ArchiveTeam/gamemaker-sandbox-items/master/2014-done/games.txt
ctrl+f and replace X in this link with numbers-game
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/X/*

Fran Brow is fucked up.
This games story better not tie into some ww2 metaphor.

>>169650356
>>169686301
Midson pls

>>169686301
>>169686459
what
>>169729940
isn't he a dogfucker tho

>>169692565
It's an old time cartoon horror game? Wouldnt that make it kinda hard to get scared of?

>>169705401
Isn't the dev kit like really low price, like only 250 bucks, making it easy for indies to get on?

>>169730040
Pretty sure that one guy posted his cat's dick like three separate times, each time causing the posts to get deleted.

>>169730390
yeah
that was me
i am not midson

>drop stardew valley around april last year
>winter of second year like 10 days in
>come back yesterday
>marry emily because fuck everyone else
>make grandpa happy
>laugh in penny's face for being a whore
>leave the game
i forgot how fun it was. Shame there isn't anything else to do after the witch quest and getting everything to max.

>>169730114
Look up Al Columbia, it can work.

>>169730247
I don't know about the price but I know the devkit was already widespread among indies.

>>169730696
You could brutally murder everyone after harnessing their eyeball liquid.

>>169733935
can you? i wanna kill everyone but abby, caroline, the wizard, maru, robin and the emo faggot.

>>169734374
I don't think so that was just the fran bow speaking out of me.

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>>169713919
>Hey guys, my 10 year old sister agreed to go to comicon as Buddy so now I need to make a Rando costume for myself.

How sweet, are you going to post pics when you're done?

Oh damn, I don't want this thread to die while I'm away shitposting in Torment threads.

>>169741719
It can't be helped.

>>169746818
I'm surprised this thread's still around honestly

Anyone have any genres they particularly like and dislike?

>>169748175
I don't like racing games

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>>169748175
Telltale style interactive movies calling themselves adventure games. Can't stand them.

But speaking of adventure games, anyone here played Gabriel Knight 3? Is it any good? I've played the first two, and the first one was fucking amazing, while the second was surprisingly not terrible for an FMV game. But the third game's early 3D graphics look like a crime against humanity. It makes me really hesitant to give it a go.

>>169748175
Like: Roguelikes

Hate: Racing / Strategy / P+C Adventure

>want to listen to some vidya music
>search for Geneforge on youtube
>nothing
>google it
>nothing
>no big deal, I'll just get it from the game files
>look into game files
>nothing
>load up game
>nothing

What the actual fuck. I finished two long RPGs with sound on without realizing they don't even have a soundtrack.

>>169753057
hahaha

Are there not even ambient tracks?

>>169753057
I guess that's just a thing Vogel does with his games. Exiles/Avernums also have no music.

And it works. Even crappy ambient sound samples picked up from some online audio bank for a dime are beautifully highlighted when busy music isn't grabbing your attention.

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>>169678721
I don't begrudge the game existing but the hype around NITW and similar games makes me feel alienated.

I struggle to trust anybody who thinks "cute cartoon animals hanging out and making perfect sardonic jokes while an on-point soundtrack plays" is a good way to explore economic downturn, young-adult ennui, etc. I relate to that stuff but I don't see myself or anybody I know in their little animals. Their whole style makes a mockery of what they're supposedly writing about imo.

>>169753606
Only background noise. Wind, bird chirps, and some muffled human chatter that sounds like some bad quality audio ripped from a home video recording of a birthday party from 20 years ago.

>>169753708
It's amazing, but it really does work. I never for a second missed the music , and never considered putting in some music while playing either. I'm a little shocked.

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NITW was rather centrist IMO

>>169754687
Centrist? So this game is out now?

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>>169754687
>>169755071
>centrist

>>169755774
>being a centrist means you can't hold those sorts of convictions and beliefs seriously
Why are all political memes like this such shit

>>169756220
It's part of the "strawman" series of memes. They're even labeled as such by the people making them.

>>169756369
Oh I see, it's intentional, got you famm

>>169754470
Sound design is an interesting and often overlooked part of game design.

Underrail alpha also had a special feel to it. No music, just ambient drones. It was amazing. The current music doesn't play as well with ambient sounds and it completely changed the overall feel of it things.

SGS had a mellow, mild tune. Really calming and relaxing. Now the music feels downright oppressive.

Old Junkyard was calm, silent, abandoned, mysterious and maybe slightly eerie. Evocative for slowly exploring your way through the depot. Now it's got an action track on.

GMS had a spoopy horror drone, but low-key enough that your hearing concentrated on the sounds effects. The whirring vents, humming and blinking lights, occasional rathound howls in the distance. Now it's got the same action track as Old Junkyard.

Trip Report: Hollow Knight still good

>>169756723
I don't know anything about sound design, but I'm not sure where I stand in the great ambiance versus memorable soundtrack debate.

On one hand I'd take the original DX's soundtrack over HR's ambiance any day. But then in the case of Gothic I find G1-2's darker and less noticeable soundtracks infinitely better than G3's bombastic live orchestra. Arena and Daggerfall, despite having nice soundtracks, are best experienced with music turned off and only SFX playing, and I was often wishing Morrowind would hold up just as well without the music, because it got so repetitive I eventually had to mute it. Meanwhile the BG soundtracks included a lot of very attention-grabbing tunes, but they still had very memorable background SFX, something for example PoE was not so great at.

I liked Underrail's music a lot, especially tracks like Drop Zone and Arena. But now you kinda make me regret never playing the alpha. Does the old demo use the drones? I want to see what it was like.

>SGS had a mellow, mild tune. Really calming and relaxing.
Okay, this is kind of funny. My knowledge on alpha history is pretty lacking, but weren't the green flavor texts added to the dialogue shorty before release? I seem to recall some players mentioning it back than at least. So does that mean there never was a time when both the calming drone and the flavor text about Tanner's calming aura were both in the game at the same time?

>>169756723

You got some youtube links to these old Underrail tracks?

Also, I'm at Leo. What's his deal, was he one of the old Biocorp scientists like Erza and Dude?

>>169765079
>What's his deal, was he one of the old Biocorp scientists like Erza and Dude?

I really doubt it. I'm almost certain he came to DC at a later point, and he isn't actually immortal or anything like that. At least two of the three elevators were functioning for a pretty long time, maybe even all three. So it's not until like some decades ago before the Institute became the only way down, and maybe even less if the SGS elevator was functioning before the earthquake cut it off from power.

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Just 20 days away from the truth

>>169769496
i still wanna fuck a cat

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>>169769574
GO HIDE NIKO, NOW

>>169769850
i only kinda want to fuck niko

well, maybe a little more than kinda
would still prefer an actual cat tho

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>>169770098
>Try out the Long Dark
>end up having to fight my first wolf three times before it finally dies
>it ends up stripping me nearly naked during those tumbles
Did that wolf want to fuck me?

>>169770325
hell if i know i've never played that game

>>169769458
*draws a bait hook in*

WAKE UP

>tfw big classic JRPG fan
>see Dragon Fantasy touted as having tons of old school references to and systems of games I love
>play Book I and find it an average but dull DQ1/FF1 homage, power through it because it's only 8-10 hours long in total
>play Book II for five hours
>find it dull and uninteresting at best and frustrating at worst and don't really want to finish it

Disappointed, to be honest. Was really wanting to love these games but the characters, story, and humor haven't grabbed me at all, and the systems for battling and quests and capturing monsters and "saving" feel tedious and annoying.

>>169756220
/pol/ recruited an army of underaged retards from /v/.

>>169756220
>>169779615
being a centrist doesn't mean anything

>can't take screenshots in fran brow with steam
>look at the forums
>the problem is known all the way back to 2015
At least the got steam overlay working I guess. Still a shame with all the screenshot worthy visuals and lines.

>>169786307
print screen on your PC is still a thing though?

or you could use FRAPS

>>169787296
Printscreen in fullscreen gives you black nothing for many games. Gonna use puush/sharex again I guess.

>>169786307
Can you not set the game to windowed mode? Screenshots would work then.

Another thing about indies and sound design is that they lack samples. Even fairly well-polished indie games have only hundreds of sound effects, whereas AAA+++ games of similar scope have at least thousands.

Yet the lack of sound sample diversity isn't really a problem on indie games, at least not for me. Really makes you think how much money is wasted on audiovisual representation on bigger game projects.

>>169764931
My opinion is mixed as well. Overall I think the new music brought the game's overall feel closer to what styg intended it to be, but the drones were better when considering sound design as a whole.

>Does the old demo use the drones?
>weren't the green flavor texts added to the dialogue shorty before release?
>there never was a time when both the calming drone and the flavor text about Tanner's calming aura were both in the game at the same time?
Yes, yes and yes. AFAIR intro texts were added in 1.0, music in the last alpha versions.

>>169765079
I guess I could upload them to mega or something

>>169765079
>>169789932
Underrail alpha drones.7z 8.6 MB
https://mega.nz/#!oN4lSSqR!6MoI4BRmiD7KZa5Ke621RkoW0aST1HboMBmcMKiL6N8

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>>169790386

Thanks, I'll listen to it tomorrow.

Censored Buddy bump before bedtime.

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So the first Eschalon decided to join Prelude to Darkness in the originally-paid-turned-free indie rpg club. Interesting. I should probably give it a go, but I sure hope it won't be a broken mess PtD.

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Yep all normal here.

>>169649871
I hear mixed things about this game. Should I just pirate it?

>>169660972
tfw harvest moons snes looks better than stardew valley

>>169754382
because it's by rich white liberal college kids.

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What are you people on about? NITW is about small-town decay, and what it's like to be stuck in small town.

>>169796983
>/pol/acks just can not be not mad at the world

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4QqxDXnhSM

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Does your characters intelligence level affect the regular dialogue in Underrail? Currently doing the Foundry quests and i could swear i never had such in depth discussions with Ezra and Quinton during my first playthrough.

Would you guys mind if /rwg/ moved in here? We don't have the numbers to have our thread anymore, and looking for a new home to move into.

>>169800206
There are occasional Intelligence dialogue checks, yeah. Often just for flavor. For example in the battery quest there are something like 5 tiers of Electronics checks you can pass, and only the highest, which takes something like 100+ Electronics, unlocks the explanation about the optoelectric batteries. Which means that most people will never see it, because at level 8-10, which is usually the level most people finish Junkyard and get access to the quest, your skill simply can't be high enough to pass it unless you max Intelligence at every opportunity and Junkyard surprise scum. And since you get only one shot at passing this check, the only real way to do it is to wait with taking the quest.

Well, but in this case the new lines for the Beast quest were added with the first experimental patch.

Pillars question, /vg/
Is a 3 paladin 3 tanky wizard a good choice for PoTD?
Also, aside from exp and idle bants, will I lose anything if I just roll with adventurers?
Pls respond

>>169803127
>Is a 3 paladin 3 tanky wizard a good choice for PoTD?

Sure why not. The only thing you need to keep in mind is that for the sake of BALANCE, the same modal will only give the bonus once. So make sure that you take different modals for your paladins.

>Also, aside from exp and idle bants, will I lose anything if I just roll with adventurers?
If I remember correctly only story companions can be sacrificed to the Blood Pool for the stat bonus, but otherwise I don't think so. But I don't remember if you can do scripted interaction skill checks with adventurers. If you want I could load up a save and check.

>>169802291
yeah sure

>>169802291
Sure, welcome. Underrail is pretty much in the same category, and it's mutually beneficial for all involved.

>>169799285
what is this, a ripoff of where they cremate the roadkill?

well at least this came out

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I'm legitimately embarrassed that i'm still playing this game

>>169803929
>So make sure that you take different modals for your paladins.
Thanks.
>If you want I could load up a save and check.
[Thanking Intensifies]

>>169804586
I don't know this is the only video I could find.

>>169789932
The problem with indie games and sound is that indies are really lazy and don't want to bother how to use fl studio or hell even audacity to edit their sounds. On top of that they're given tools by other equally lazy devs to make terrible samey sounding samples.

Everytime I hear an unedited sfx-r sound I want to tear my ears off. Sfx-r is a good starting point so you can get a base sample to edit but people just plop it in their game and it's so harsh and hard to listen to

>>169804729
The only idle game that actually kept my attention and felt like it was trying to be a game and not just a vessel for the devs sucking money out of people's pockets

>>169798127
>pointing out basic facts like the creator's social and racial demographics means they're /pol/
really didn't think this one through did ya

>>169806260
You are just spouting butthurt nonsense and /pol/ memes yeah.

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I'm just glad it seems like we are moving past the "LE RETRO NES GRAPHIX" phase. We are seeing more RETRO at the level of SNES graphics, (stardew valley) And I am okay with this.

>>169808845
I'm really glad about this too.

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>>169808279
>rich white liberal college kids.
>most if not all of these descriptors are applicable to the creators, verifiable by whole MINUTES of googling
>this is just butthurt nonsense and /pol/ memes though
Oh sweet summer chile

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>>169804768
Right. After an eternity of staring at loading screens, and fighting through hordes of shit to find one of these, I finally have the answer. Adventurers can do scripted interactions. So feel free to go ahead with them.

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>>169810041
Thank (You)

>>169791237
>trip
Did you post in LPS threads on /co/ when they were still around? I'm having some sort of deja vu.