/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #438

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>>169211390

Nice Boat has two spaces about to be three as we hit level 100. Put ssg in your profile.

Active club we have max stats, match gold and st per check in. And we're active.

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meta has changed..

Thor EE when? I want to permanently change the meta!

Glayde getting healed when an ally passes in position is fucking bullshit.
BB nerfs Angela and then immediately releases something just as bad.
Why the fucking hell are they so retarded

I want to store my cummies inside Clop

>>169483653
That's actually genius for a marketing perspective.
Also, are you a light striker user? If not, you should have no problem.

>>169483653
Who knows

>>169483832
>genius for a marketing perspective
>nerf it after x months
>its bait and switch
Someone should file a legal complaint
Also, its stupid for the reputation of the company and longevity of the franchise.

>>169484034
>its stupid for the reputation of the company and longevity of the franchise
It has no good reputation, and there's bigger balance issues than new flavor of the month being broken while old and busted shit that everyone has is balanced out

>>169484170
P O W E R C R E E P

>>169483653
It's not nearly as bad as Angela. Angela got healed when anyone got attacked. Combined with the fact she had silla ace built in and literally every type of resistance to fuck a striker up.

Glayde is only as good as her backline totems and is easier to deal with than old Angela.

>get Cow demon from 28 days box
>already got her from free draw when she was featured
>could have been Glayde/armel/wwspic or even Kyoko

can only hope this attacker rework is good and her EE is going to be good too........

>>169484524
>attacker rework
>good
You expect them to continue being shit or they will be over powered.
You can't let your guard down when you deal with the idiocratic rule from BB.

>>169484629
They need to be overpowered, defenders and leaders are already too strong, shit would only even them out.

>>169484629
So make them be op. Attackers are the only units not used on teams right now aside from legendary attackers.

>>169485012
>>169485124
>approving of more unnecessary buffs
>ON SELECTED UNITS
fuck no
nerf totems by 75%-80% first before individual balancing
what BB is trying to do is race a chariot being pushed by a whores

>>169485507
>this shitter again

>>169485507
Oh god the nerf totems faggot

Kill yourself you bronze shit

>>169485542
>>169485578
its either that, buff selfish skills by 400%, or rework every one to only have 1 totem
and don't forget that cost should be brought back and buffed to create more team versatility and stop the mono legend nemesis

>>169486029
K

>>169486029
>nerf totems by 80%
>buff selfish skills by 400%
>rework every one to only have 1 totem
You're no better than BB with your shitty theorycrafting. You're not balancing anything, you're breaking something while overpowering something else.
Fuck off

>>169486171
what I'm recommending is the appropriate scaling of skills according to AoE because its the obvious reason why 90% of the player base is unusable
anyone with a brain at least half alive could figure that out, then, that is when you do individual balancing -- creating a very close gap between OP and weak units
the model recommended can also hold power creep well and longer giving BB more opportunities to get $$$
just like what I said, healthier gameplay = more money for BB and happier customers -- both waifu fags and e-sports and less rewards for bandwaggoners
so no, you fuck off

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So, should i reemplaze one of my striker for a leader? Bora is stroger i think and i have a lilith and she debuff(-40%defense -reflex) its more useful than lucid or two striker

>>169486676
That would be true if all stats were weighted the same, but that's not even close.

>>169486793
In English, please.

>>169486793
chances are good you have already quit before you can get a complete team anyway
choose who you think is cuter between Bora and Lucid because with the current meta they both perform well
two high reflex*/+steal forward units can support both of them because they both rely on shooting continuously to gain advantage against enemy backlines - Silla can be built like this, just look for another one that can also be built as such

Sneaky jews, "what you've wanted" has been previously used with pick tickets.
I bet someone's stupid enough to be fooled.

>>169486676
>things that'll never happen
Be realistic kiddo.
If we're on wishful thinking, then make legendaries more accessible, make the packs free and make my team the strongest.
It's as stupid as what you're suggesting, it's like you don't even play the game

>>169487124
???

>30 posts in and we're already ded

Is Renee worth scout for future Cod?

>>169493301
Baltheon and Karpilla are still going to be the top 2 PvE assists, but Renee is probably 3rd if you use Sharr

>>169493569
>Karpila
>Top PVE

lol

>>169493703
Which 5* is better than Karpila then?

>>169493954
Balth

>>169494062
JP server please leave

>>169493954
>neraizel
>elchitusa
>shura
>alkyde
>wg
>hamerus
>luka

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>>169493954
>>169493569
>Just got done hypermaxing my Karpila to perfection
>Pull Balth

rip Karpila ;_;7

>>169494437
DESU even on thunder teams I prefer Luka or Both I guess

>>169494437
fuk u

/vg/ live pvp tournament when?

>>169494437
>want to use qtpilla
>want to use shura, hamerus, elchitusa and fem balth more
Too bad.

>>169494657
My Luka is already hypermaxed and I used them together prior. Now it'll just be Luka and Balth.
Wish I could use Karpila instead of Luka since she's cuter.

>max hp bi tries to steal from 1hp william
>explodes with 1.5k damage
THIS
SHIT
SHOULDN'T
BE
ALLOWED

>202 crit william crits my 204 cr jin
JUST

>>169495051
Your opponent's striker has a +100% crit rate skill hidden in their kit

When are GKs going to be able to pen in esports
I just want to see mine wreck someone's shit.

Is there a player tier list that isn't complete biased garbage like apocashit or based on votes of the retarded userbase like reddit'?

>>169495275
Here' the ultkmate rainf
Is it cute girl? If yeah then S+
Is it normal girl? Og eyah tjen S
Is it ugly gl? If heah then S-
Is it man? Of yeah then F

>>169495487
I'm talking about e-sports not waifu shit scrublord

>>169495487
Now in english.

>another episode of presty receiving 100 damage from my striker
FUCK ME
HOW DO YOU KILL HER?

>>169495662
Use Hiro

>>169495662
Are you using Sharr? If you are, you deserve it.

>>169495662
Run multiple passers and use Red c.dmg since presto increases enemy stones

>>169495721
>have him benched, no spu and lvl1
>don't want to use him because he's ugly
Is there no other choice? Something cute like Beatrice or Griffith perhaps? I'd even accept Latios or Lucid, I'd get them just for that purpose

>>169496027
>a utility striker against presty
go wild man.

>>169496027
Hiro isn't ugly, he be a cutie

>against someone with Kevin in backline
>I have him there too
>his whole backline starts with 50% ATB or more
>mine barely goes over the 20% ATB Quickstart gives
NICE GAME, NERDS

>>169490084
The text in the new package icon.

>>169496539
He probably had some Meta or Shu fuckery on top of that.

>>169496539
You need to buy the improved starting action bar package for only 99,99 a month

Who are the strongest ww/dark strikers right now?

>>169498951
lucid

>>169499086
anyone that isn't a stupid big-titted loli?

>>169499135
>lucid
>big titted
>loli
>stupid
Trying too hard.

>>169499135
ur mum

When will Aiolos be reduced to 900 Dstones? Whenever a new legend is released?

>>169500415
Yeah so probably in the next 6+ months

>>169495275
It's hard because the game relies a lot on synergy. So even if a player is good, it may not be as used because it has no synergy with other players. For example, most people would think that Rudiel is disposable garbage, since she has no totem whatsoever, and none of her skills are game-breaking, but she has seen some uses in galaxy Kirin frontlines in the past.

>>169501061
I guess that's not too bad. Gives me enough time to get materials to supermax her.

>10

The fuck guys, I doubt any of you go to church.

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>>169506847
I do, but just for the nuns.

Who "Traveler Vonchi" here?

>>169506847
>Forgetting you're on a Christian image board
Of course we do.

>>169507421
>120 United States Dolleryroos
>On a Skin
>MALE
>Skin

Tip Top Kok.
Faggot.

>>169507421
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>169507421
>all these Milky references
I don't ship him with retards

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Can someone post their monothunder team?

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Wew

>>169511395
Nice a neris.

>>169511395
Omg that's so funny!!! Mumu has big tits because she's a cow hahahaa!!

>>169511395
Ogre is my waifu xD

>>169511395
>nobody ever remembers 3*s unless someone posts scout screen and they need to reply with a real kneeslapper

>>169511395
A neris and an ogre walk into a bar...

>>169512930
The punchline is "it's all ogre".
You may proceed with this dedd thread.

Who else here misses the club shitposting? Maybe I just miss my club Niceboat getting shitposting about

>>169514135
Shut the fuck up

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>>169512347

>>169512890
They should just bring cost cap with full force. Making it so that a team can't consist of 5*+ only. This way people would have to use 4*/3* or even 2*s on their team to meet cost requirements. This way it would also make it more interesting as a low * can make it more viable.

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>>169513834

How the fuck do I get Metatron's Will? I'm trying to get it for my William.

>>169516680

Combine? Scout?

>>169515584
Literally my last 5 rolls.

>>169516680
get +100 on her heart gauge then watch her sex scene be prepared for some cuck shit

>>169516861
I'm trying to combine but I've spent all my gold leveling stones to get guaranteed unique
;_;
>>169516913
lel

>>169516913
Whew, thought I was playing Kamihime for a sec.

>>169517402
SS will turn into that in a few months

>>169519804
Good thing Uriel is in it and she's a Loli and op, but not released yet.
I can wait.

Stop being nerds you fucking ded

>>169521954
I love you.

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Is there no turning back?

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Next dark legend will be a qt healer.

>>169522358
BASED

>>169522391
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUU I WANT SHAMANA TOOOOOOOO RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>169522391
I just want to touch her legs.

>>169522557
>>169522764
Too bad she's all mine, along with her silky smooth legs

>>169523080
I already have her though.
Im just replying about her legs cause I can.

>>169523080
Fuck you, okami, you made me use Sky CM and she a shit. A SHIT!

>saw a backline with orses
>was actually pretty strong all in all
>copied it
>invested and used orses unironically
>it's shit
HOW THE FUCK

>>169523830
Whale substats

>>169522358
I need this.

>>169523830
Are you using CI on her?
If not, get it.
And have a monodark team

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Is he right?

>>169524254
>Thunderfags bitching again

Not going to bother.

>>169523334
What's your stones/spu/star powerups?

She's not the best but she isn't shit either

>>169524254
No.
Karpilla is better than Evylin and that's the only comparison to an actual matching type of unit. He's also forgetting about players like Freyja, Glayde, Haru, Cynthia and Lynia.

He's also conveniently avoiding thunder's own team wide effects when talking bout how "op" WW is; ATK/CAR stacking from Freyja, team wide slow from Cynthia, team wide ATK/Crit Damage on Veronica and not to mention thunder's vastly stronger chain synergy

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>>169508193
Sure thing my man.

I've only actually used mono once I'm done climbing or on off-season but it holds its own well enough in galaxy. Although, I'm inclined to believe that the TA alone carries the lazy placement.

>>169524254
Nope he listed strong units and called them shit compared to ww, only some of the players he listed were actually weaker but still not shit. Just a typical thunderfag always bitching about not being #1.

>>169524254
leddit thunderfags are the worst.

>Reddit says thunder dindu nuffin
>/ssg/ says ww dindi nuffin
Really makes you think

Why do thunderbabies shit on Felix?

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>>169523946
https://imgur.com/a/CbRUK

>>169525942
They use him without stones and superbs

>>169525684
I agree man, I agree.

>>169525925
Nah it's just thunderfags constantly bitch about not being able to beat their WEAKNESS it's irritating at this point.

>>169525962
pls b my gf burryput

>>169525962
based

>>169525962
eh, decent enough

>tfw no Ass
>tfw no Boobies

>>169525925
>if I call them on their retardness, I am a wwcuck
Both Thunder and WW are fine, and this is coming from someone who was playing dark when it was shit.

>>169526447
its fine to have a flat ass and washboard chest anon

>>169526447
>He's not buying Ass with his dstones as soon as he can

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I love Silla

I love Clop-anon.

I hate Silla

How is ardor/ww compared to dark/ww?

>>169528087
Not that great, ww don't really mix well with other elements than dark

>>169525962
>tfw i am 0 superb

>>169528212
Why?

What makes a good CM?

>>169528391
Dark and WW fills out the things they each of em lack on their own, while WW/Ardor don't have the same synergy

>>169528872
How good they are at having my Cock in their Mouth.

>>169528872
Being able to take hits, good reflexes, gets a benefit for the line or team for getting hit, hitting or moving

>>169528908
Thanks. Are there any good alternatives to Lucid as a striker?

>>169528872
Being named ''Metatron''

>>169522415
I heard it's going to be male attacker.

>>169529230
Depends on what element you're after and how your current team is, would help if you posted it

I shamelessly fapped to that asslad tbqh

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>>169530439
This is my current team. I know I should probably just stick with it but I'm not a huge fan of how Lucid looks. The past week I've been trying to figure out how I can change my striker to someone cute like Latios or Sharr and still be on the road to a good team.

>>169530532
Jesus, have some tastes for better art anon.

>>169530830
>latios
>sharr
>cute
oh boy
also use ravian/beatrice/shanti is you don't want lucid

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>>169528872
Being able to put out

>>169531156
When I say cute I mean attractive for me. Something about Lucid just doesn't grab me. Are Kirin or Irru any good, because even a male striker is more appealing to me than Lucid.

>>169527892
But clopanon only loves clop

>>169531438
and soon ill make her have eyes for me

>>169531397
go for kirin then and make people cry

>search for SS on JewTube
>this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDqoKOrvdk

>>169532318
Whoever made it should be beheaded

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>>169527818
i like that basically all of her can be used as a pillow

>>169533018
I wouldn't be able to use her as a pillow since I'd be too busy fucking her every hole until my dick falls off

>>169533252
Silla is for pure acts.
Delete this filth.

>>169533018
I wouldn't want to her as a pillow since she would have other people's semen on her.

>>169533018
I wouldn't be able to use her as a pillow since she doesn't exist.

>>169533018
I wouldn't be able to use her as a pillow because I like my pillows hard

>>169533496
>making love isn't the purest form of love
Fuck off.

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no bullying guys

>>169533882
Who are these semen demons?

WG would make a better pillow

>>169533882
ill bully you then

>>169533967
Ur mom and u

>>169533967
broken healer and her unfortunately inadequate sister.

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>>169533714
this what you are looking for?

>>169535013
Sigh *unzips dick

jean buffs when?

silla buffs when?

linmay buffs when?

kirin buffs when?

Sharr buffs when?

>>169525962
Doujin when?

I want to lick the insides of Uriel's nose and then tongue kiss her unclean anus

What does a front line in a Kirin team look like?

>>169542618
Kirin/Elaine/Orses/IC Choi

>>169542758
Rainbow? Any way to make it mono-ww, ww/dark?

>>169542903
damage bullshit: Kirin/Jade/Rudiel/Evylin

reflex bullshit: Kirin/Metatron/Alice/Shura

You can do a lot of different combinations

>>169542903
What players do you have?

>>169524254
Yes I'm autistic
>complaining about magnus when nerua would be broken if she kept her rainbow totem
>top 3 striker vs top 3 goalie (seriously, leventors can kill jins with a 3man front, and they still complain?)
>best long passer vs best defensive totem (now is this a problem with duran being too strong or with strikers being too strong?)
>khirel and bell are mostly used in mono and rarely off color at this point (Seriously, everyone uses bi, gaphyl and virgil instead of both of them even after khirel buffs, though I agree Bell needs attention)
>comparing these legends as if thunder was literal shit
>underrated cm vs overrated backline totem (seriously, without her ee's atb she'd be in oblivion)
>great passer vs decent passer replaced by a furry that isn't a passer
>new shit vs old shit
>new shit vs old shit
>if not for paralysis kirin would be shit compared to vann
>mentions only YUMMY as defense totem, forgetting who nikita is, along with nerua and ass, and forgetting ww only has great defensive totems with subpar mid and just now a strong front
>thinks only speed was what made monothunder strong
>GUIN DOES THE SAME EXACT THING
>complaining about xing who is nowhere and won't be for a long time, while jury, a boss, and still used effectively with battalion
>complaining about silk as if her totems were permanent. Yes, they're high, but even with her she won't stop you from critting for too long
>even without silk they reach >130CR
>complaining about neraizel and forgetting veronica, nerua and cynthia (inb4 their shit xd)
>complaining about meiran's when freya is very strong too
>complains his element is weak against the element that is stronger that his, and complaining on the element and not the elemental advantage bullshit
>can't even tell what the hell is he complainig about at this point
>complaining about mono when rainbow is still the biggest cancer
Did I miss anything?

Is it dumb to use a striker with high pen and Elaine in the same frontline?
I mean, isn't it dumb to use a mechanic that reduces DR with a player that reduces DR and making pen weaker as consequence?

>>169544435
High pen as in 100%? And Elaine isn't only used for her active, btw.

>>169544806
Yes.
Also, yeah, but she's too slow getting them on, I'd prefer something like shura/karpilla for fast shots and good damage outcome

Am I dumb for sticking with Ravian instead of using Lucid?

>>169544332
>elemental advantage bullshit
it needs more buffs
this way, (You) will be forced to cash more and build a team for each color for maximum FUN :^)

Hire me bb!

>>169543971

>>169530830 is my current team

My only decent 5* ww and dark units are Hamerus, Lilith, Verister, and actually no green units that would be good other than in my team already.

>>169507421
>monthlty expert package
Soon

my Balth has gotten fucking everything but Pass effect, this is bullshit
I need my 2800 active pass

Why is reflex counterattack capped at 50% in CoT. What is the the point of puzzle challenges when they are determined by coin flips

Updated https://ssherder.com/stones/

Garden of Red Flame
>Increases the damage that the target receives by 30.0% with a steal.
>Increases the attack power by 4.0% for every 5% of HP lost.

Heart of Minerva
>Increases the critical resistance by 15.0% when being attacked. (Accumulates up to 3 times)
>Recovers the action bar by 20.0% when being attacked.

Eye of the Storm
>Decreases the damage that the allies within the position receive by 10.0%.
>Decreases the action speed of the enemies within the position by 12.0%.

El Repayon
>Recovers 15.0% HP first when being attacked and reduces the damage received by 12.0%.
>Increases the critical damage resistance by 25.0%.

Residue of Madness
>Increases the attack power by 20.0% when receiving a pass. (Accumulates up to 4 times)
>Increases the critical rate with an attack by 25.0% for each target.

>>169549510
Who the fuck even benefits from the new thunder stone? New Light stone is definitely a Felix stone.

>>169550867
>Who the fuck even benefits from the new thunder stone?
WW :^)

>>169550867
Evelyn, I guess?

>>169550867
Some action bar fuckery frontlines can benefit form it.

>>169549510
Light shitters that were too poor to afford slot rerolls

>>169551641
This. WW deserved that stone.

>>169551641
Repayon is better than Star Tears.

>>169551795
Literally there for light shitters to get all the benefits without the risk

t.stone reroller

>>169551641
Yeah can't wait to use that on my Isillia with Elua ace

>>169549510
So, this should probably be final, so:
>Top Tier
EotS, El Repayon
>Good Tier
Residue
>Maybe useful Tier
HoM, GoRF

>>169552324
>not using her with Latio's ace for maximum fuckery

>>169549510
>Isillia buffs
>and now this
darkball didn't last long.

>>169552324
>Boobies
Good taste

>can't enter SS
FUCK OFF GOOK CODING IS THE WORST WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT MY FUCKING STREAK BB YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS

>both Cynthia and Lynia are faster and stronger than my Bell
>Bell is +160, they aren't
buffs when

>>169552956
Yeah because both of them have fucking Super Play and UDII to make 'em sturdier and hit like a truck. Also, her totem is way better than Lynia's.

>>169553298
>super play
>implying rng works in the player's favor
>UDII
>70% base AP
>when Bell has ~800 dribble
>Cynthia/Lynia both have 1k with 125% critdmg
Both of them can hit once and break through immediately, whereas Bell has to hit twice
She's a fucking LEGEND, and should be miles better than any 5*, these are just the units in my team, theres a bunch more better than her

>>169552956
>not using CI for Bell to become useful

Fuck off thundercunt

>>169553832
Cynthia's the one in need of nerfs. Lynia should be stronger than Bell because she's an attacker.

>>169551173
Elchitusa killed her, so forget it.

>>169554046
Evelyn CM :^)

>>169553908
>CI
>no first passive being CM
>doesn't get to use second passive because the faster units got autopassed to
>because she had no first passive
hmm

Bell should heal the line for 15~20% when attacked/attacking tbqh. Then she might be useful.

>>169554219
>using Bell as CM
>when Jury is still a solid option

>>169554662
Go fuck yourself.

This is some bullshit adding two stars to the event match.

>>169552375
>So, this should probably be final
Yeah, official english translations increases the chance of it being final because of time/effort to change it again. I'm really amazed the thunder stone is still the same.

Is Muspel a thing on monolight? He seems really shitty desu, but dunno

>>169555275
You can use him as CM

>>169555694
B-but that's Sky's spot

>>169555759
I said you can, not you should.

>>169555275
No, monolight midline is fixed: Duke, Sammy/Ustiel/BI, Beth. Nothing can change that.

>>169558992
>implying that will be the same once all the attackers except dook are buffed this week

>isillia can easily reach 80 DR with double heals
>that new light stone will give her another heal, more DR and crit dmg resist
good job bb make strong gks into broken ones

>>169559148
Nah, BB's intentions are clear; they want legends to always be the best. No one will ever replace Duke in light midline.

>>169559601
>BB's intentions are clear; they want legends to always be the best
Clearly not regarding Jin

>>169559601
Too bad
its going to happen either way

>>169559601
>they want legends to always be the best.
I don't see anything like that in the game when the best player for each position/role is a 5*.

>>169559803
There's no static best player for each role/position.

There's legendaries with no close 5* counterpart as well.

>>169559601
>legends will always be the best
Didn't know Elaine and Gaphyl were legends

>>169560770
>he doesn't know about ardor's 8 legends

>>169559601
didnt know issilla became a legendary

Bell is the worst legend and needs buffs to make her more broken than the rest

>>169564452
No, fuck off. All legend team is gonna be a thing at this rate. BB, listen, please, just nerf Gaphyl and shit. BB, PLEASE.

>>169564601
I agree, nerf Gaphyl and Virgil, BI and Linmay too, and buff Bell to beyond their level

Hopefully they buff Bell and actually make her good. Khirel buffs were shit compared to all the other legends.

Saramir worth it for ww/dark Kirin team? She's in my ticket event and not sure if I should go for it

>>169567727
kirin is garbage

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>>169567768

>>169567727
Nevermind. Just saw she has overwhelming and Jin has it as well so it wouldn't stack. Guess I should pass on her?

>>169568875
Even mono-ww barely use her.

>>169568875
>>169569451
She's one of the best 5* options for WW backline.THAT SAID. you will replace her the second you pull a WW legend.

die

CI is a frustratingly effective stone

I can't stop Duran from being obnoxious and effective as fuck just with that stone

>>169573594
No

why is Sky's active pass line so annoying
why doesn't she wear panties

so fucking ded

that it

>>169581170
waiting for the patch notes. It is going to take forever.

I don't understand how one disappointment after another keeps the game alive.

>>169582030
if you checked reddit's reactions you would see 60-70% of people think every patch is great and that BB are competent

>>169582030
Stockholm's syndrome. If another company made a similar game with better system and balance I would jump ship so fast.

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>shitters forgetting that DR is multiplicative and not additive
Isillia will continue to be shit tbqwhyf

>>169587985
The stone is still bonkers

>>169587985
Where's your clover team, fag?

So, when is Shanti getting nerfed now that Elchitusa give her the pen she needed?

>>169587005
Y-your back lia-anon?

>>169591564
next patch
trust

>>169591789
inb4 BB release an ardor player giving pen ace so Sharr goes from cancer to broken

>>169591830
just put willy ace in the backline :^)

>>169591949
what about
WoM Willy,Choi,Kevin, Glabaris Sharr

Shhh, /ssg/ is sleeping

>>169595326
What's up.

>>169595326
tfw you'll never sleep with /ssg/

>>169595489
Ill sleep with you, only if im big spoon

>>169595489
What a slut

>>169582030
is people mostly expecting good thing in the "next" patch,

i mean,if the previous patch was shit the next one surely is going to be good, or at least better than the last, right ?

no

So, how is Beatrice with her 100% pen now?

>>169598310
Ask the Beatricefag when he gets here.
He's been posting his stats every thread

>>169598431
No, I mean shitters that said Beatrice was bad, not actual good players using her

>>169599001
>reddit says bea buffs was barely a buff and she still struggles
>they also say leventor is ok, with only thundercucks complaining comparing him to bea

this is entertainment

>10

Approximately how much pen crit damage and crit rate is wanted on sharr these days? Alternatively how much crit resistance and damage decrease is expected from a gk

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Snowball, come forth to save /ssg/!

>>169605619
you always try to get stats as high as you can generally,
still with sharr is generally better to try and stack DI with stones, and give some crit disregarding the rest

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>>169608172

>>169610371
I'm in love

Fire Emblem Heroes is ded. They found out 90% of the game is saved on the client side.

>>169610905
Why did that upset them that much

>>169605619
It depends a lot on the GK, but generally a minimum of 70% DR is enough to survive the first shot.

>>169610371
these eyes ... it's like they are staring into my soul and calling me ...

>>169610905
Time to use cheats in that shit game, hopefully I will find orb cheat too so I can leave a cancer team in PvP to fuck people.

>>169611174
There is no game anymore, it is basically just having luck at gacha and playing endless PvP.

>>169611452
It looks like orbs is one of the only things server-sided, but there are people trying to change the character rolled somehow.

>>169611815
>anymore
Isn't that what it always was?

>>169611926
A game doesn't need to be hard. Sometimes people just want to play some solitaire.

>>169611926
They can still play the game normally if they want.

>>169612376
meant for >>169612112

Patch notes in 14-17 hours right?

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>>169612964
Just have some sweet dreams and they'll be here when you awake in 40 hours.

>>169613232
Patch is on Tuesday
Maintenance on Wednesday

>>169612964
so less than 24 hours

>>169610905
>tfw SS has more substance than FEH

>>169614653
SS is one of the mobages with most actual content

>>169614653
>tfw SS is more dead than FEH

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I love how BB fucks me harder every time

>>169615280
Nice striker stone

>>169615280
>Doesn't tell you the substats before you buy it
Why's it gotta be like that

>>169615280
long shooting GKs will be a thing, just you wait

>>169614653
that might be why there isn't as much people interested.
i'm glad that it actually requires some effort though.

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>1-1 costs 1 st with 26% st reduction

>>169616548
Indeed.
>pgo
>pad
>feh
>all mindless games
>games with a big fanbase and good money makers
>tb
>more complex than all the above
>holds steady because their devs aren't retards
>ss
>complex with retarded devs
>near dead
Seems to be a pattern here

>>169616935
TB used to buggy as fuck at release, and their events were as shitty as possible. I don't know if they managed to regain a significant % of their playerbase after that.

>>169616875
>Loli Eyes White Dragon
>LEWD
lewd

>>169615253
>SS dead after a couple years
>FEH dead after a couple months
At this rate they'll start adding literally whos and reskins and power creep will become more prevalent

>>169615253
>feh
>dedd
Have you seen feg? It's literall 90% feh

>>169618247
That's not what he said. But it is going to die very soon if they don't do anything about the hacks.

>>169618381
The problem is that their game is fucked, so they can't just put a 2-day maintenance and be done with it.

I'm not sure if it is Nintendo being greedy with their server costs, or if they are legit retarded.

>>169618594
Both.
I still play it just because I want my loli dragon dream team there too. Difference is, I play this other one for fun.

>>169616935
Wait, is SS worth it to start playing, or continue playing if I'm not far into it and only $300 invested?

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>>169616935
i'm surprised that tb is as popular as it is.
i think it's tedious as fuck.
all the collabs and having sakaguchi's name behind it must bring in a lot of people though.

>>169618831
>loli dragon
Good taste. I rerolled for a Young Tiki, but I can't get to roll either Nowi or Fae.

>>169619090
>rolled fae and nowi
>no young tiki
I'm still happy, they're adorable
>>169619048
I loved the story, not sure if that's a strong point for popularity, but collabs and stuff are good. Better being stable like them than being one step away from falling to oblivion like most mobages

>>169618848
game will last another year or 2, we still got like 2 sets of legends left

>>169615253
I strongly doubt it

hacks aside, FEH's still in top 20 grossing for biggest earner countries, meanwhile SS hit top 100 exactly for one day for USA right after the big update in mid 2015 with the convention and everything

pretty sure that the current state of SS is what Ninty standards consider as financial failure

>>169619990
oops, wrong quote
>>169610905
well >>169619990 would make more sense too if SS and FEH flipped around in that post

>>169619990
>still top 20
The hacks are recent thing, it takes some time to reach the normies. And the whales doesn't swim where there isn't krill to eat.

>>169619292
the story is alright, and a lot of the girls are definitely waifu material, it's just the gameplay that bugs me.
also they are really stingy with energy if you don't check in everyday.

>>169620473
that's with the assumption that Ninty does absolutely nothing about blatant issues like character stats and score shenanigans though

and if normies cared about competition against anything other than their friend groups, they wouldn't be normies

>people unironically thinks SS is dead because they are sitting their ass in Global server one of the first servers

>>169621175
>normies don't care about competition
>overwatch
>lol
>cod
So, they are not normies? If any of these games had blatant hacking and cheaters, they would have a large drop in playerbase.

>unless they do absolutely nothing
This is the problem, they can't do anything about it. They would have to reprogram their game and servers, which would take reasonable amount of time. Without to mention that they can't rollback what was not stored on their servers.

>>169622114
try thinking of normies in games with both significant attention PVE and PVP components instead of games that's literally all about PVP

that said, no, FPSes aren't even good counterexamples because things like aimhacking and wallhacking tend to be client-available data and they're virtually undetectable by anything but having humans notice, but people tend to be paranoid of different ways that they can be reported&banned when people notice and/or normies simply don't have fun using cheats to guide them through any given game

>>169623035
>significant attention PVE and PVP components
Feh has no real PvE component. It is just some matches that a newbie can beat in a couple weeks.

Also, if you are talking about both PvE and PvP content, how about WoW? How many people would still whale for it if there was blatant hacking in it?

>>169623681
>whaling in wow
There's nothing but cosmetics

>>169623681
>whaling on WoW
how does this work

>>169623035
>aimhacking and wallhacking tend to be client-available data and they're virtually undetectable by anything but having humans notice
You don't play many FPS's, right? It is easy as fuck to detect a known hack. The only problem is that the people are just making new hacks from time to time, just because the anti-hack programs are shutting down any known program.

>>169623907
>>169624029
There are people who literally live off buying/selling Wow stuff with real money.

>>169619990
Saber literally got promoted and is running another game with SS I highly doubt they consider this game a failure

>>169624090
>It is easy as fuck to detect a known hack.
oh god no, you can't generalize it like this at all

something like wallhacking literally amounts to finding the one part of a memory (or sometimes conveniently a script hook) that tells you where an enemy is, and then you doing your own things to express that data in a way that helps you that doesn't even have to use the game's features to do so

It's basically the same shit as FEH hacks, only with a teensy bit of vector algebra to make sense of where to move your mouse, and if you have any confidence that aimbots can be stopped, so can you with FEH

>>169619990
SS isn't a failure though its far from it.

Just because its not big 3 doesn't mean its failed

Summoner War is HUGE worldwide so its not like Com2Us can't have smaller relatively successful games too.

>>169624626
Yeah, but since the game doesn't get any money from it, it's not technically considered whaling. Whales are a term used by companies to name big spenders.

>>169624626
chinese gold farmers are what the devs actually WANT killed, you know

PITSI PUTSI WHEN

>>169626337
sorry to hear you are getting worse

>>169626337
My condolences

>>169625018
It is impossible to stop feh hackers because the data is stored on the client, so the only thing they can do is try to move data around, or try to encrypt it, but it won't take much time for the hackers to get access to it again. Unless they recode the whole shit to be stored on the server, which is what they should have done from the beginning.

>wallhacking
Are we talking about the same thing? Wallhacking is really simple, since it uses data already known by the player(but hidden). Stuff like aimbot is more complicated to do, since there are more involved than just knowing where everyone is. The thing is, detecting them is easy once you get to know what the hack is doing, the bigger problem is just trying to discover what it is doing, and working on a countermeasure.

Also, feh has a bigger problem on their hands, since as opposed to FPS, the "damage" left by the hacks are permanent. A hacked account can't be unhacked, and they don't have any way to detect it either.

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Wow, free wins! It's what I've always wanted!

>>169627658
FUCKI OFF, I'M SPENDING ALL MY FUKING GOLD NOW AND GETTING HIM TOO!!!1 ASSHOLE

>>169627658
Holy shit, I also want to trade 1600GP for 900 ds.

>>169627289
>A hacked account can't be unhacked, and they don't have any way to detect it either.
which hacks would be utterly impossible to detect and undo?
everything from stat adjustment and gem gains would just require SS devs' tier of between-match record keeping to undo and hand out bans, not that the devs had proven to be competent enough

>Stuff like aimbot is more complicated to do, since there are more involved than just knowing where everyone is.
right, the one other data is your own character's rotation to complete the math for hitscan weapons, and desired enemy's velocity and projectile speed if you want the math for projectile weapons

It's more math-intensive but it's hardly fucking extra-data-intensive

>The thing is, detecting them is easy once you get to know what the hack is doing
but, programmatically, without human intervention? explain more

>>169627658
gibe him

>>169627658
gz anon,
just in time for Duran buffs this patch

>>169629951
b-but what about my beth

>>169629196
>which hacks would be utterly impossible to detect and undo?
It would take a shitton of time to detect it by comparing matches played and level of the characters, if they even store all matches played, if not, it is impossible.

>aimbot
Aimbot actually takes control over the inputs to aim and sometimes even shoot, so there is also this to add in complexity.

>without human intervention
I think you misunderstood me, I understand that to detect a hack, it is required another player to report it in 99% of the cases. This is why I kept saying "known" hacks. Because it would be a hack that the developer already know that it exists and how it works.
And feh hack is ridiculously simple, it should already be on all major foruns by now. So, unless developers are blind, they already know about the hack, and unless they are retarded, they should know how it works by just looking at the hacking tutorials.

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Weird

>>169630776
???

>>169630776
Shitty memes never die.

>>169630870
>Niceboat club vs a guy named Niceboats

>>169630662
which FEH hack are you talking about in particular?
if anything, resources-giving hacks should be incredibly easy to detect by script alone if they have records of 1. what they actually played and 2. what the mission is actually supposed to give out in terms of resources

If you're talking about shit that allows people to insta-win any given match no matter their composition, well fuck, you can do the same thing in SS, or any other games that go offline when you're in the middle of a match, y'know?

I guess it's better when the entire club isn't focusing club matches, so many free win teams appearing.

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>Update on 1st March
>Update on Wednesday
Patch notes in 10 hours right?