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buff lawbringer edition

>NEW PATCH INFORMATION
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1580891-Upcoming-Gameplay-Improvements

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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>>169382641
faggoty OP
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Alright i'm retarded, to be able to dodge do i need to dash in the direction of the red indicator or the opposite of it ?
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>>169382641
xth for ''I lost neutral and Warden got 2 light hits off it so he's OP''
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3rd for Orochi's & Noobushi's are the biggest fags in the game
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If you see someone named Aerthas be careful he's a known dangerous Hacker.
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>Le epin swastika ecks dee fags
>Implying you're not underage
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Reminder:
netcode is broken
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Post webms!
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>>169382740
t. Aerthas
fuck off before I shove my Broken Straight Sword up your ass
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>>169382718
you need to dash into the direction of the indicator if it is a side heavy attack.
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>>169382750
you parried right, not top
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They need to make offense more rewarding across the board. It's way too easy to turtle forever in this game.
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Does anyone else just have certain heroes that are never EVER enjoyable to fight?
I am on the verge of DCing every 1v1 with Orochi, PC, and Nobushi from now on, fucking weebs and honourary weeb
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>>169382750
nothing wrong with the netcode, that's something the raider genuinely can do
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>>169382750
That's a legit mechanic raider has you dumbo
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>>169382750
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>>169382807
add chip
make heavies for some classes unparryable

you shouldnt get more reward for getting hit than hitting
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PSA: you can rebind your controller buttons via steam
or start ubiversion with steam
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Who has the best fashion?
I want to main someone that looks stylish as fuck.
RESPOND OR ELSE
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F U C K
U
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P 2 P
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>>169382912
I have the best fashion
I won't post it because you're going to steal it
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>>169382750
Anon, raider can cancel side-heavy into a stunning top light.
Learn the game before you complain about it being broken.
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>>169382896
lose a lot of stamina on block
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>Contracts that involve friends
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>>169382912
lawbringer

too bad he is shit
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>>169383015
Is that Shinichi from Parasyte?
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>>169383015
>he doesn't have friends
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>>169382750
You moved right just before you did it, faggot.
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>>169382750
this is bait right? you got told last time you posted this too
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>>169382806
>>169382848
>>169382861
>>169382974
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This is how my night of playing has gone:
>Disconnected from 6 Elimination PVP games in a row
>Disconnected from 1/4 brawl match
>Doing duel vs AI bounty and every game is orochi or PC so far

I honestly wish I never bought this game and spent the one hundred and fucking twenty dollars on something better.

Every quarter of the year I lose that bit more faith in gaming. I'm tempted to just sell my PS4 and everything with it and go buy another fucking rifle or something, as something ACTUALLY worthwhile
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>>169382958
>:(

I'm gonna get mad.
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>>169382912
Knights lead fashion wise.
Warlord is okay, Berserker looks the fucking same all the way to rep100 and Raider gets a stupid overdesigned axe.
Weebs, lol. Just lol.
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>NAT is green
>Very high activity
>finding a game takes minutes and after all filters been removed

ubi cant multiplayer
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Thinkng of picking up Sugoki, is he good/fun or is he too slow / 1-dimensional?
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>>169383131
not viable against anyone good

>cant punish bashes
>too slow
>unusable heavies
>slowest block speed
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>General was sucking true's dick the other day about his raider gameplay
>watch him finally play raider for once
>he almost loses to a valk, claims HER JUMP OVERHAND IS UNSAFE ITS A FREE GUARDBREAK
>she techs it like 6 times and gets 3 free hits on him for it
>even if he does get the GB since he's playing shit raider he couldnt even get a heavy off of it
>goes to fight Warlord next since it was brawl
>does that start a side heavy so the indicator shows side but quickly switch to top stun light which is a visual exploit
>does it three times
>gets a side heavy since warlord was dazed for execute
>he's popping off YE DIZZY M8 DONT KNOW WHERE TO BLOCK DO YE ITS MY TIME TO PLAY

??????? This is sub-par play at most. All he does is abuse the free overhand shit as seen in >>169382750
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OFFICIAL "WHOSE REP 3 ARMOUR LOOKS THE BEST" POWER RANKINGS

>Top tier
Lawbringer, Warden
>High tier
Shugoki, Kensei, Warlord
>Low Tier
Conq
>I can't even tell if that's rep1 or rep3 armour
PK, Orochi, Nuboshi
>I've never even seen a high-leveled char
Raider, Beserker, Valkrye
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>>169382740
What should I do?
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>>169383127
what language\region
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>>169383054
>>169383058
How is this even bait?
It generates 0 rage, just normal "no you're wrong" replies & a bit of empathetic embarrassment for the anon that's being stupid in public.
That's not even fishing, that's just scooping up some water in your boot & calling it a day.
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>>169383198
is this bait
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>>169383231
It's too late. He's in.
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>>169382750

At least post something that is netcode related.
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>>169383280
I guess it is bait, but no really. Go watch his stream right now. He almost got bodied by a fucking VALK when he kept saying "THATS UNSAFE THATS UNSAFE" and he kept getting punished for HER unsafe action.
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>>169382768
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>>169383279
>parry right
>get hit top
>woooooooow

there's not much to say other than "you're wrong"
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>>169383112
I really wish Knights had a skin for Warlord, he just looks like a redneck or something to me.

>>169383131
He's not bad due to armor, remember that you get a free Demon's Embrace off of a wall throw, and a charged side heavy off if you hit people with Charge of the Oni, and you'll have fun
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>>169383267
EU
you ubi fanboy
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Friendly reminder that the japs didn't get run out of their homeland by an occupying force, it just got destroyed by natural disaster.
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>>169383280
>>169383345

>He just did the side heavy exploit into top light THREE more times to kill a shugoki

It'd be one thing if it was an actual feint but it's not, you're literally fucking pressing buttons faster than the indicators can show.

I
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>>169383345
it's kinda weird but, i think it's a case of not being able to predict they're gonna do something unsafe/retarded that many times
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>Saturday, tired of working
>Try to play today
>Disconnects and one-sided losing games
>Death count doubled from yesterday
I'm this close to commiting suicide. Can I still get a refund of this shit?
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update lads
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someone post the map
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>Conq main
>Try ungeared berserker for the first time in elimination after having a few bot matches
>Most kills by a landslide

WTF is this thing I'm experiencing?
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>>169383543
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>>169383543
knights pushed back the weeb invader?
was the capital taken at some point?
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>>169383395
i dont like ubisoft
where in eu exactly?
it has language\region lock
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>>169383198

Literally nobody has been sucking True off for anything. IF anything, it's pretty much hate all across the board because he uses clickbait titles, thinks he's a lot better than he is and likes to make comments to hide his obvious sheer anger.
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>>169383543
It feels like there's some anti-losing system put into place.
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>>169383672
well, in some way there is, because you always attack the biggest faction and thus noone ever wins.
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>>169383591
Are you me? Conq main but wanted to try out a more interesting/aggressive class so I tried out Zerker. He's now a very close second favorite of mine.
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>>169383672
>how do we keep the goyim from getting bored with our game
>tease them incessantly
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>>169382768
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>>169383220
>I've never even seen a high-leveled char
>Beserker

You probably have, but they literally look the same as below, only with like. Additional buttons on their tabard, or some engravings.
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>>169383617
capital will probably never be taken since the percentage is way too high.

Normally its 49% vs 51% But when its closer it makes it to like 40 to 60 and you cant push further than that, so im guessing ubisoft doesnt want us to take it.
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>>169383672
Yeah, there is, it's obvious as fuck.
You lose a lot of territory, you get proportionally big buff to all your war assets.
Pic is from when the vikings almost attacked the weeb capital.
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>>169383720
Not only that, but every time someone loses territory, it seems like they get a 'pick me up' and get some kind of invisible war asset boost.
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>>169383617
They pushed weebs back. Apparently you have to completely surround their stronghold to attack it. We don't even know if that's true since they didn't. Either way, weebs can enjoy the retardation by the shitters that switched from Knights now
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>>169383446
you mean like every zone attack does, thanks to input generosity? it's part of raider's kit, lol, it's not an exploit and it's the only thing raider has going for him
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>>169383780
That's the joke.
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>Level one gorillion revenge gear noobushi onehitting me with a single zone attack
You really thought this through ubi
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>>169383829
Stop replying to the baiting retard.
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>>169383198
If he laughs again for baiting low tier players with no stamina into parrying the unblockable im gonna rip my ears off
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Post them
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>>169383793
Where's the missing 1%?
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>>169383943
>weeb
>plays warden
Not surprised.
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Do Valkyries suck or is it just me?

Practicing with the bitches and I can't seem to find my groove like I did with Conqueror and Orochi.
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got my lawbreaker from 1 to 14 in 7 hours sleeping last nigth :)
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>>169383943
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Wait if warden cancels shoulder bash into gb is that techable or not? Because I tech damn near every single gb in this game but I couldn't tech one from this warden.

Also I will never ever not hate wardens and peacekeepers. Tell me to go cry all you want but I will still hate them.
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>>169383623
scandinavia, english
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>>169384006
I am the 1%.
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>>169384138
Jesus Christ this is what it would be like if say dark souls had a chat.
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>>169383829
>its not an exploit
>only raider, warden, and roach can do it and it's not mentioned in his movelist as a unique talent for any of them

That sounds like an exploit to me m80.
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YES OR NO FOR KENSEI
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>Conq is OP
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>WEEBS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>169384138
he's not wrong
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>>169384259
I agree that the hero is shitty

but losing to a shitty hero as nobushi is a joke
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>>169384235
noone ever said that in earnest
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>>169384094
I did this but only after I got him to rep 6.
You gonna get destroyed, Anon. You don't even start to get really good before rep 3.
>inb4 gear has anything to do with knowing your character or the enemy
GLHF
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>>169384221
yes
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>>169384221
get some stam gear and go ahead.
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>>169383390
>that webm
did they make law bringer bad on purpose as a joke. I swear to god the only thing he has is his shove which only retards fall for.
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>>169384157
It's techable I believe, though I'm not sure if you can tech stuff when you're grabbed during a dodge.
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>>169384296
This chat is polluted with shitters who legitimately think Conq is OP because of m-muh shield bash spam. He's not even top tier, nevermind overpowered.
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>>169384236
That's not how you spell snowniggers.
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>>169384283
I don't blame him, I always get tilted to fuck playing against him
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>>169384006
>what is rounding?
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>>169384297
why wait until rep 6? theres no point. all the max gear comes at t3.

bot till t3, then get the gear and start learning your character

im playing my max attack/revenge nobu in dominion and deathmatch during day, botting new characters to t3 during the night while i sleep

averaging 20 kills per game, maybe 1-3 deaths.
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>>169384051
Use her light combos & get used to hitting deflects.
Dash attacks are fast as fuck too, and she has a vortex where you can guardbreak->heavy->headbutt and then either GB again (if they try to dodge) or sweep (if they try to counter-GB) into a heavy overhead.
The dashback charge is really strong as well, and should be getting stronger once they fix the broken GB cancel for it. As is you can only mixup into overhead light.

She's fun to play if you get used to her- lots of tools, but you've gotta use them all repeatedly to beat someone.
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>>169384373
>infinite stamina with revenge means he can just shield bash you forever
>heals on block and can block in all directions whenever he wants
>the blocks also act as parries
>not OP
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>>169384157
it is, but if you're in the middle of a dodge, it is not

you have to guess, that's the point of it
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what is wardens shoulder bash combo?

thanks.
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Hey Kangz, can we please shit on these stupid weebs?
t. knight
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>>169384430
>Gear and feats
Opinion tossed away. Duel is the only objective metric for balance. Also the blocks are deflects, not parries. It's not the same thing. You should probably get better.
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>>169384394
>get used to hitting deflects
reminder that the timing is different from the assassins for her deflects, you have to do it a little earlier.
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>>169384350
Yeah I think I read that, but I wasn't even trying to dodge because of exactly that. Just real infuriating that even when I guess correctly I/it still fucks up and gets me. Goddamn.
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>>169384393
It's just harder to learn your character when you get crushed by people who already know what they're (and you're) doing when you don't.
If you're not a new gamer then I'm not about to tell you anything you don't already know.
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>>169384430
How do shitters this bad even function
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>>169384497
>hey winning team can we join
>t. knight
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Remove P2P.

Remove bleed.

Remove Peacekeeper and replace it with a knight who uses a Rapier or a Lantern Shield.

Remove the tracking on Warlord's headbutt.

Make at least one (1) fucking duel/brawl map without hazards or pits.

Buff Lawbringer.

Make all gear purely cosmetic.

Rework orders to not favor the shittiest gamemodes.

Remove vs. AI orders.

Allow more emblems to be saved at a time.
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>>169384519
hasn't been an issue for me so far. get good
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>2v2 starts
>instantly get ganked
I quit, fuck that.
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@169384203
>only 20% of the cast has it in their moveset
>it is, in fact, mentioned
No more (You)s for you.
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playing against an even slightly competent nobushi makes me want to kill myself
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>>169384615
Get good implies that I still need to.
I'm good enough that people think my stats are padded. That's enough for me. Have fun with your new characters :)
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>>169384601
AI orders are comfy

PK doesn't need to be removed just nerfed

Gear is fine in Dominion but should be turned off for Elim

Agree with the rest
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>>169384601
>Remove bleed.
Why?
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>>169384702
id rake you over the coals princess

>>169384601
>not implementing a penalty for leaving games lol

kk
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alexsnadder ur a sore loser xx
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>>169384373
He is OP, though

Shield bash is the single strongest offensive move in the game, can be done from any direction dash, free light hit, infinites against walls, and needs to be dodged EXTREMELY early to avoid it at all.

Conqueror is an already defensive character in a defensive meta game, surprised Warden gets bitched about when a decent Conqueror is almost unbeatable
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>truetalent only winning fights by using side heavy top light exploit 8 times in a single fight then getting a free raw side heavy because enemy expects him to use exploit again

It's literally warden and roach tier gameplay but the raider is worse in every way. Jesus fuck how does he get happy playing this.
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>Knights are about to do the exact same shit that led to the weebs taking 2/3 fronts of their stronghold
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>>169384601
>not removing revenge from duels
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>>169384736
What was he using
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>>169384727
>PK/Nobushit stabs you and runs away while the bleed kills you
Do you need to fucking ask why?

>>169384732
>>169384780
Good point. Add those.
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Is there anything I can play that won't make people mad

When I bought the game on a spur-of-the-moment decision I went with Orochi cause I wanted to do the samurai thing(since there was no sword+shield knight the fuck) but Kensei was too thick

Orochi makes people mad though so I switched to Conqueror cause it's close to what I wanted anyway but it makes people mad too
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>>169384601
>Remove P2P
stopped reading
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>>169384732
lmfao you looking for a fight, today?
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>everybody constantly spouting the YOU ARE A RAIDER line like it's the best thing to come out of this game
>I haven't seen one person even mention this goat moment with Stone
>>>/wsg/1560971
this general is just one giant let down
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>>169384601
>Garbage opinions
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>>169384601
>region lock match making
>faction lock teams but keep class picks open
>incentive the use of faction specific classes by giving a war asset boost
>remove faction rebound system after losing territory
>losers get no war assets
>hero limit of 2 in 4v4
>get rid of bridge only maps in duel
>remove revenge in duel
>fix net code
>bleed doesn't kill
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>just ragequit after losing 3-1 against pk as warlord
im having trouble with her zone attack spam, but mostly with double dash covering half the map and i never get the opportunity to attack back
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>Be rep0 warden
>Watched basic tutorial video on youtube about him
>Fight rep3 warden
>Win
lol
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>>169384820
Shill.

>>169382934
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>>169384820
I think that you think he means pay to play
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>>169384757
Warden's shoulder charge is MUCH better than shield bash, what the fuck are you smoking.
>can be charged
>much further distance
>can cancel into GB
Anyone who even thinks Conq is overpowered is immediately bad, no questions asked. Get good.
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>>169384830
It's not that good man.
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>>169384497
Reminder that 'knights' are scummy liars that can't even win gracefully.
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>>169384824
dont have to look. were fightin whether you like it or not

its saturday and i got my fightin shoes on
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>>169384795
warden
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>>169384856
>Weeb
Discarded.
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>>169384952
>Broken
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>>169384601
>Remove P2P.
every fighting game uses this system, fuck off crowbcat

>Remove bleed.
it's fine as a +dmg taken up status like how nobushi uses it, feats don't matter

>Remove Peacekeeper and replace it with a knight who uses a Rapier or a Lantern Shield.
remove PK's ability to cancel her zone attack, done

>Remove the tracking on Warlord's headbutt.
>not mentioning Conqueror's shield bash as well

>Make at least one (1) fucking duel/brawl map without hazards or pits.
The Shard kinda

>Buff Lawbringer.
agree

>Make all gear purely cosmetic.
they just need to balance the revenge stats

>Rework orders to not favor the shittiest gamemodes.
1 for each gamemode would be nice

>Remove vs. AI orders.
agree

>Allow more emblems to be saved at a time.
agree
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>>169384830
"You're a raider" is an unexpected funny moment. That's just Ubisoft trying to be funny.
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>>169384952
>Warden user complaining about anything
And what were you using?
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>>169384929
>autistic muslims still this triggered that they didnt get the ugly open beta border for their emblems
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>>169384809
>he dies to Nobushi/PK bleeds
Don't blame the game for you sucking.
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>>169384929
screen capping your own (you)s.

Pathetic.
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>>169384705
>AI orders are comfy
This.
Can gank, ledge-cheese, ability spam & abuse revenge without remorse.
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>>169384601
p2p is fine , just needs a lot of tuning

bleed is fine, just shouldn't kill

peacekeeper is not fine

warlords headbutt need tuning

ledging is fine, learn to position

buff lawbringer, agreed

remove revenge stats from gear

orders are fine, just needs a repeatable "get 3 wins" order

remove vs ai orders, eh...

4 emblems are enough, needs more symbols tho
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>>169384951
Don't make me mount my bayonet.
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>>169384830
Lets compare context. On average you hear Stone's line one time, and to most people it won't even make sense.

Meanwhile since most people played on Realistic, and he says the line over 50 times even if you body him into the fucking ground, YOU ARE A RAIDER, LEGENDARY is much easier to meme.

So is RAIDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR because it dominates an entire cutscene devoted soley to her yelling it like 15 times and forcing NPC's to stop fucking fighting to stare at the crazy bitch.

If you want other meme oneliners, literally everything the shugoki says is trash. "Uh.....vikings." etc. So is the valk. "Saw you take scalps. I don't speak japanese." even fucking zerker "ITS DIFFERENT"
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>>169384820
p2p is trash you fucking fag
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Have guard break techs changed yet?
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>>169384757
>and needs to be dodged extremely early to be avoided at all
Funny how that works- fought a kensei just last knight that dodged 100% of my shield bashes & punished me for them.
Broken OP character amiright?
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>>169385008
>every fighting game uses this system
And every single one that uses it is shit. Just because everything else uses it, doesn't mean it's good.
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>>169384895
Level/Reputation is just time played. You can have no clue what you're doing and still get xp from losing your way forward. Meanwhile, someone experienced with fighting games takes one look at the tutorial and then goes on to wreck people.
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>>169385019
kensei

>>169384993
t. warden player
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>>169385097
p2p is perfect for fighting games 1v1 but shit for 4v4
I don't know if you even could separate the modes so that 4v4 has servers
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>>169384736
we saltin?
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>>169385151
>Warden user bitching about a loss to arguably the most honest character in the game
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>>169385059
things have accelerated pretty quickly here. i'd like to apologize.
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>>169385038
You'll suffer the same in time if you haven't already.

Unless you're a PK/Nobushi shitter, which explains your stupidity.
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>>169385153
>p2p is perfect for fighting games 1v1

Only if both players are from the same region and the netcode isn't shit. All of this stuff is very circumstantial.
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>>169384925
A charged shoulder is useless, because waiting gives you nothing in the mixup, and actually using it is a free "dodge this and GB me" sign

Warden's shoulder starts up much later than Conq's bash, requiring a much faster reaction and increasing the threat of his 50/50

Just look at any recent tourney, lots of Conqs and Warlords because their pushes are insanely fast and blocking/parrying is too easy currently

This assumes that both players are high-level enough to have basics down + feinting is almost useless
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>>169384686
@
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weebs are the most honorless trash in this game
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>>169385097
so thats why i was dropping frames after the ''pc hotfix'' that ''fixed bugs'' and instead fucked up the net.
Thought my graphic card was dying
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>12 levels into rep 3
>Not a single purple drop
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>>169385212
I've played against plenty of either and can count the number of times I died to bleeds on one hand. Stop acting like an over-defensive shitter and letting them whittle you down.
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>>169385134
Wow, he dodged them all and you never GB punished him for any of them? Sounds like you two didn't know basic fundamentals.
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>>169385097
An anon posted a webm a few threads ago about how his GBC wasn't working. Someone explained that the lag prevented it from functioning.

https://files.catbox.moe/edbnyy.webm
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>>169385227
Sheep
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>>169385294
you dont get purple drops at rep 3
You have to buy packs
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>>169385225
Funny you mention Warlord since he's demonstrably better than Conq in every single way. Headbutt is infinitely better than Shield Bash. But Conq is broken right? Lmao. It wasn't long ago people were saying Conq is bottom tier. Now that people are getting better with the Conq tech everyone is screaming OP when characters like Warden, Warlord and PK exist. Fuck off.
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>>169385294
>he didn't save up all his Steel and chests from the SP campaign until he hit rep3 and scavenge for an instant set of purple gear
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How do I git gud with the warden? Have been playing nobushi until rep 4 and warden feels so sluggish to me.
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>>169385381
>he didn't spend a measly 5 bucks on 5000 steel to buy 10 packs once he reached rep 3
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>>169385328
Yeah, this video gives a good reason why CGB doesn't work either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAU5bIalbnc&feature=youtu.be

Pic very related. In LAN connections (ping is 1ms) there is at least 100ms of lag between the two players. Basically the netcode is just dogshit. No one knows how bad it is online.

Most people can't CGB because for most people by the time they see it happening it actually already happened, so trying to CGB never works.
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What do I have to play for people to respect my wins

Raider?
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>>169384470
light overhead hit -> guard break -> side light x2
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>>169385521
Literally no one. Everyone is dogshit at this game and if you beat anyone its cause you're an abusing spammer
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>>169383412
>lose an entire empire to natural disaster
>be few in numbers
>after a thousand years settle down next to two warring factions, both of which outnumber you

are the japs retarded?
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Not sure what all this P2P whining is about but I honestly haven't seen lag once so far in this game, whereas I see it all the time in games with dedicated servers.
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>>169385306
You know that the bash attack & GB share the same button, right?
You can't GB instead of bash.
By the time it no longer registers as part of a bash combo, they've already dodged away 'extremely early'. So you can't fucking feint it like that.
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This game is fucked. There is just too much obnoxious bullshit and every kiddie has caught on to it.

>shoulder bash into guard break warden any scrub can do
>headbutt spam warlord revenge build
>peacekeeper stupid bullshit attack faster than you can block

That's it i'm fucking done. Maybe i'll come back when Ubisoft fixes this stupid bullshit.
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>>169385352
Headbutt gives you a 10 dmg light hit and can only be done off of forward dash

Shield Bash gives you a 12 dmg light hit and can be done off of forward or side dash

???

Also, Warlord's Crashing Charge is buggy as hell and not a knockdown if the opponent has stam, whereas Conqueror's jump slam is a free heavy hit, making a Conq sprinting at you an instant 50/50 guess

Conqueror has literally every tool that is extremely powerful in the current meta, as well as the best disabling tools in 4v4s, and it's absurd that people called this in open beta and weren't listened to
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>>169385521
woooow I can't believe you threw me off nice cheap kills kid

real talk is kensei, there's nothing that requires more timing and spacing
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>>169385521
Kensei
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>>169385565
>>after a thousand years settle down next to two warring factions, both of which outnumber you
Not only that, but they're living in the Myre. It's almost uninhabitable.

I think they're just desperate.
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>>169385224
Isn't that always the case tho
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>parry nobushi
>she gets pushed back 500 million miles where you can't follow up

Explain how this is fair
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>>169385443
>spending money on microtransactions for a game you already bought
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>>169385592
>woooow I can't believe you threw me off nice cheap kills kid

audibly keked
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This guy must play bot games all day and afk at night.. what in the fuck.
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>>169385576
Watch >>169385467. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't disprove hard numbers. This game ha garbage netcode.
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>>169385590
>Headbutt gives you a 10 dmg light hit and can only be done off of forward dash
Which, if done after his jumping sword attack, is a guaranteed hit even if the opponent dodges.

>Conqueror's jump slam is a free heavy hit
A simple back dodge fixes that.

You're biased.
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>>169385425
cancer
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>>169385590
No, what's absurd is people actually think Conq is OP when his kit is extremely predictable and easy to counter. Shield Bash is amazingly easy to dodge unless you're a trash shitter. Try telling that to the PKs and Orochis that can dodge my shield bash with the greatest of ease. And 4v4 is completely fucked and imbalanced regardless, that's not a legitimate metric to judge a character on.
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>>169385679
its not, at all

but shes not top of the hate pile right now so noone gives a shit
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>>169385679
Dodge her attacks. She's vulnerable as hell since her guard-change is the 2nd slowest in the game (21 frames, only Lawbringer is slower with 22).
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>>169385727
I just want to play a knight chreacter.
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>>169385657
Not if there are high speed servers everywhere.
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>>169385138
>What is Killer Instinct's godlike netcode
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>trying to do these fucking garabe challenges
>7 games in a row it kicks me out in the last round
This game is fucking amazing
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>>169385521
Kensei, Valk, zerker, raider.
Everyone else has some broken/annoying mechanic that ups the salt 10x and/or delegitimizes the win.
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>>169385467
Isn't this just lag compensation? By that I mean a minimum delay no matter how good your ping is?

I haven't meant a single laggy player in 60 hours except for a few very obvious ones with packetlosses who were teleporting all over the place so I'd assume the lag compensation does a good job at giving everyone a fair experience.
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>>169385578
You know you can wait for less than a half second and change the input right? The untechable window of a dodge is massive and GBs have insane lockon/homing potential, just look at Warden when their shoulder cancel is even slower

If a conq dodges anywhere near you, you either dodge right then, which means the GB will home in on you, or don't and hope he wasn't already pressing the button. Hence, 50/50

>>169385716
>his jumping sword attack
which is one of the slowest telegraphed overheads in the game? it's a free parry since it can't be feinted

>A simple back dodge
his run up GB just became untechable, congrats. This is the basic of a 50/50, are you stupid?
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Is there anywhere to view stats other than the 3 pieces of information under Player Performance in the Sociabl tab?

I can't see character specific stats? What the fuck?
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>>169385778
for fucks sake
IT'S ONLY VISUAL FRAMES
ALL CHARACTERS CHANGE GUARD STANCE AT THE EXACT SAME SPEED
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>>169385693
What's the point? You only get a bunch of cosmetic crap past 3.
Maybe he intends to sell the account, but you can probably make more money actually working for all the time it takes.
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>>169384872
>region lock match making
that was in day1
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>>169384157
What makes it bullshit is that you go to dodge to avoid the shoulder bash but then the warden just cancels it and guard breaks you making it guaranteed because you were in the middle of dodging.

You either take the shoulder and take the 2 lights or dodge and take a free heavy. The only escape is to roll away but good luck doing that.

Its pretty much an exploit and anyone who plays warden fucking sucks at the game.
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>>169385839
>Isn't this just lag compensation? By that I mean a minimum delay no matter how good your ping is?
No, because other tests he did, even the online connection were way better than FH's LAN connection netcoding. It's just bad.
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>>169385874
do you have the frame data to back your autism up
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>>169385842
>his run up GB just became untechable
Dodge backwards again, retard. Or just GB him first while he's recovering from the charge.

Have you ever even fucking played Conqueror?
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>>169385842
Nigger dashing back removes you from both GB & bashing range.
1 guess what the Kensei was doing.
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>>169385751
>Try telling that to the PKs and Orochis that can dodge my shield bash with the greatest of ease.
>i've gotten outplayed and don't know the appropriate response so this character is bad lol
I said, when players know fundamentals, like, how to punish dodges with GBs.

>>169385839
it is, and the only time latency shows itself is when things get rolled back/forward, IE your hits getting blocked, then doing damage to an enemy, or vice versa
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>>169385874
The first time, yes (8 frames), but all subsequent changes in that sequence are delayed by a certain amount. The CompetetiveForHonor subreddit actually measured that stuff, look it up.
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>>169385874
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>>169385425
Top light is fast as all fuck, use it to poke.

Top light acts as a block against other top attacks light and heavy (crushing counterstrike), use it with the same timing as a parry HOWEVER you can't use it against unblockable attacks.

Zone attack is fast as fuck and comes from the right. Stay in top guard and use it to poke.

You can use side heavies to swing you around an enemy pretty nicely if you push left stick in the same direction, you can use it to avoid some attacks and punish. Don't forget you can feint them to bait parries.

When you hit with a light begin the vortex. Shoulder bash or Shoulder bash cancel into a GB for a free side heavy.

I've found Light > Shoulder bash > Side light double Top heavy feint quite nice, since if they fall for it you get a free Crushing Counterstrike.

Essentially you have to keep them guessing if you'll bash or cancel GB, or neither.
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>>169384903
>>169384917
>>169385097
p2p de facto is superior and mandatory for fighting games
apply yourselves
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>>169385343
I have. its rare but I have gotten purple drops at rep 3
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>>169385874
Are you sure?

I mean I'm not saying you're definitely wrong but just going by my own experiences it certainly feels like raider, LB and nobushi swap slower than warlord and warden
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>>169385896
It never actually regionlocks matchmaking. Pay attention to how fast it switches to "all regions".
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orochi is better than warden in my opinion

>strong vs bash cancer
>spin goes through everything in the game
>several PK tier speed attacks
>great feint and backdash game
>high damage
>super fast block
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>>169385971
what's the deal here then?

clips dot twitch dot tv/dmbrandon/InquisitiveOxVaultBoy

shugoki parrying an attack without even holding his guard on that side, less than 3-4 frames most likely
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>>169385918
Are you being ironically retarded

I don't appreciate people trying to look incompetent for giggles
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>>169385960
I never said Conq is bad you stupid fuck. If it's possible for Shield Bash to be dodged, it isn't broken, because there's a direct fucking counter.
>punish dodges with GB
Fucking moron. Once I'm locked into the Shield Bash animation I can't cancel into GB like a warden charge. If the opponent dodges my charge that's a free counter for them. Wow so overpowered how can anyone stop this.
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>>169385918
What class do you play? Almost all of them have answers off the top of my head.

Assassins can sidedodge and attack, Raider and Lawbringer can sidedodge and top light/pommel strike, Conqueror can just eat the hit and either CGB or Full Guard, etc.
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knights are really bouncin back huh?
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>>169385990
Wrong, faggot. Servers are objectively superior in regards to quality. You can stop being retarded now.

>>169385960
>it is, and the only time latency shows itself is when things get rolled back/forward, IE your hits getting blocked, then doing damage to an enemy, or vice versa
Wrong, retard. Watch the fucking video.
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>>169385874
There's a post on the game mechanic reddit, basically from a neutral stance this is accurate, everybody can block any direction up to the last moment without issue, but if you switch guard rapidly then the varying animations actually come into to play, making blocking various light attacks harder if you guess wrong and have to correct

Source
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/5vzo5l/block_speed_guard_switch_time_confusion_and_why/
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>>169385918
Only way to punish the 'vortex' spam is to spam lights when they're up close.
Charge only gets hyperarmor once they've charged it up.
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>>169386062
the reason warden is better is because he can break turtles and his attacks are fast as hell boyyyyy
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>throwing a zone abusing warden off a cliff with raider
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>>169386124
>i never played a fighting game
stop posting
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>>169386062
>Orochi, THE cancer class, calling anything cancer
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>>169386108
>side-dodge & attack
anon, wardens can GB cancel. side-dash attack only works if the warden is slow AF and you manage to get the attack going before they get the GB going.
In which case, you might as well just light-attack without the dash instead.
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>>169386183
>muh feelings

Look, servers are better, this is a fact. P2P working better for 1v1 fighting games under specific scenarios doesn't mean Servers aren't higher quality all around.
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>>169385946
>>169385954
>just backdash and that beats all GBs!
lmao

>>169386097
Are you legitimately stupid?
You have to dodge the bash early, as soon as the Conqueror side/forward dashes, this means, due to the preemptive timing required, you're completely open for a guard break.
Please stop feigning ignorance, it really hurts the discussion.
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>>169386183
not them but what fighting games are server based and why is p2p better

>>169386208
What makes orochi more cancer than warden?
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>>169386230
Which is why I only mentioned assassins doing that because they have attacks built into their side dashes.
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>>169385690
>not disposing of disposable income in a manner that pleases you at that time
Are you poor or something?
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>>169386240
You're objectively wrong. Come back when you learn the mechanics. Last reply from me.
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>>169386230
side dash attacks beat almost every offensive move in the game because they turn into an attack on frame 2-3 or something absurd

>>169386250
stupid damage off of everything, top light combo is 32, their heavies are all 35, etc
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>>169386240
You're retarded.
GBs only work if you're within range when they try for it. If they try for it before you dash back, congrats they'll magnetize themselves to you & the dash will seem to fail.
BUT, as we already covered, conqs have a DELAY before they can GB.
So the only reason you'd be caught in-range by the GB is if you're a slow motherfucker that didn't dash back when he should have.

Get gud instead of complaining about not-broken characters.
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>spamming bash near a cliff
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>>169386240
>you have to dodge the bash early
It's incredible that people who have no clue how the mechanics of the game work have the audacity to call something OP or broken
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>>169385918
ROLL, YOU STUPID NIGGERS

PUT THIS SHIT IN THE FUCKING OP NEXT TIME BECAUSE THIS SHIT IS FUNDAMENTAL AND YET SOMEONE CRIES ABOUT IT EVERY THREAD
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what emblems worse
>uchiha crest
>swastika
>swedish flag
>pop culture references
>vikings tv show symbol
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>>169386326
Warden does great damage too, are you having a giggle m8

>>169386452
Anything you have to unlock your camera to get out of in a 1v1 is cancer.

Warden is super strong and would still be strong without the vortex
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Post tier lists

Top
Warden
Orochi
Warlord
Peacekeeper

Mid
Lawbringer
Berserker
Conq
Nobushi
Shogoki
Kensei

Low
Valk
Raider
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>>169386452
>roll out of warden vortex
>he gets a free side heavy while you're standing up because it's a 50/50 depending on what side you decide to block on standing up
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>>169386235
what the fuck are you arguing about then?
were talking about a 1v1 fighting game here
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12 KILLS

0 DEATHS

HONOR AND GLORY TO THE KENSEI
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>>169386568
>were talking about a 1v1 fighting game here
Yeah, and For Honor is not a 1v1 fighting game.
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>>169386530
Top: Warden, Shugoki, Warlord, PK, Conq

mid: everyone else

low: raider
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>>169386516
YOU DON'T HAVE TO UNLOCK YOUR CAMERA
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>>169386513
uchiha and swastika are tied for most autistic

nice picture btw
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>>169386363
I see you've never played a good Conqueror that knows when his dash > GB input stops being a bash and becomes a GB, Back to duels with you until you've learned the game, please.

>>169386432
People have been crying about almost every other class being OP in turns, but ever since open beta, everyone's said the shield classes are very strong, and no one's even acknowledged it, at all. Call me in two more weeks when we have an even more defensive meta than this one and shield characters are the only good ones.
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>>169386296
>wasting your money on useless microtransactions for Ubisoft game
>enjoyable
>"What are you, poor? Can't afford a bag of shit?!"
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>>169386250
>what fighting games are server based
none of them (maybe they died)

>why is p2p better
player-server-player, different pings
player-player, same pings
fighting games require speed and equality
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I can't fucking deal with Berzerkers anymore man
>fucking unlimited stamina for light attacks
>PK-tier combo speed
>3 hits to kill me
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>>169386452
>JUST RESET TO NEUTRAL FAGS
Because wardens should have a spammable high-damage vortex that can't be punished in any way. You've got a nice brain for balancing, don't you?
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Is lawbringer only good for bad Judge Dredd memes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTN68Y8IIdk
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>>169386602
>Shugoki
>meme gimmick class that any competent player will trash

>Conq
>Poor man's Warlord

Shitter tier list tossed out
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>>169386612
swastika is way more autistic because at least the naruto shit is fake

if it was fake nazis like a Zeon emblem it'd be less autistic than naruto
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>>169386541
What the fuck is your autistic ass talking about, is everything that has two possibilities 50/50 now, regardless of how easy it is to react to
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>Buy the Pit Viper Mythic outfit for the samurai
>mfw only one character can use it.
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who the fuck designed this shit
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>Get a hard DC error right as you're getting executed

I legitimately hate it so fucking much.
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>>169386571
>even the dogs are slant eyed

>>169386645
There are none because getting servers and having server upkeep all over the world is too expensive, and since people don't buy fighting games in high enough quantity to warrant spending money on servers, no one does it. If you had enough high quality servers all over the globe for a fighting game, it would work as fine as p2p. The issue is cost, it's not cost effective to have those servers so they default to p2p because it's inexpensive.
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>>169386626
>if I don't like it, it's a bag of shit!
Back to /v/
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Is he /ourguy/?
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>>169386513
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>>169386513
>>169386612
>>169386704
There's an entire thread of underage little shits whining that they got banned for their swastika emblems and how it was just a prank and Ubisoft shouldn't be allowed to take their 60$ away.
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>>169386678
OH SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT MAYBE IN FACT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE ALLOWING FOR THE VORTEX TO EVEN BEGIN

MAYBE IF YOU LET THE VORTEX HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY NEUTRAL IS YOUR BEST OPTION
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>>169386701
>he doesn't know

>>169386780
eat shit
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>>169386698
Well his name has "law" in it, what evle are you gonna make out of that?
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>>169386516
wardens double light is 24 damage, and needs a bash or a gb
side heavy is 30 dmg
zone is 20 dmg
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>>169386736
the same fucking retarded who balanced this game and made these shit maps
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>>169386736
It looks like a Power Rangers sword
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How to Raider?
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>>169386736
I'm pretty certain that's based on a real weapon. One that was never used for combat, but they probably just threw it in anyway.
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Daily reminder that all knights are autistic
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Anons please post more webms of you shitting on other people and other random fights so i can live vicariously through you since i can't buy the game.
Stuff with conqueror would be appreciated
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>>169386780
Tru3 PogChamp
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>>169386513
I have nothing against autistic shit on emblems but if you expect to not get banned for some shit you can make you're out of your god damn mind
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>>169386723
If you roll out of vortex the warden can que up, and already be in the process of a side heavy by the time you stand up. Depending on if you block right or left while rolling away you will get hit, which will stumble you, and let him begin the vortex again.

If you roll again, you put yourself in the same place, now exhausted.
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>>169386626
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>>169386671
Try going on the offensive instead of trying to react.
They only become uninterruptible after they've already landed 4 hits, so you'll easily chip them to death if you hit your lights first.
Also, learn to counter their dash-attacks, (they always come from the same direction), & punish.

Alternatively, learn how to block'm good. Zerker has almost nothing to handle someone who can block'm.
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So what do I get for getting all the collectibles in the story?
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>>169386780
northerners make me sick
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>>169386906
>autistic Crusade LARPing
#notallknights
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>>169386326
The only thing Orochi has are his double light top and his zone which always comes from the right and is slower than wardens and pks. The rest of his kit is useless against a good player.
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>>169386778
>>169386975
>people are unironically defending microtransactions in buggy AAA games now
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>>169386843
You're not wrong
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>>169386807
>J-J-JUST PREVENT US FROM SPAMMING IT
Literally the only option to counter warden spammers is to spam light attacks at them.
You're like a little child that doesn't want their advantage taken away.
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>>169386906
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>>169386530
S - warden orochi peacekeeper
A - conqueror, warlord, nobushi
B - kensei, valkyrie, berserker
C - raider, shugoki, lawbringer
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>in the betas the carolean colors were unlocked fast
>now its impossible to get them before the game dies
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Don't talk to me or my swords ever again
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>tfw wanna play LB but you're the worst.

:(
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>>169387073
>people unironically get assblasted when someone likes something they don't
Asperger's
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>>169386807
>if you get hit by a side light you deserve to be in a vortex
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>>169387101
that's some funky editing
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Can you use the Battle Outfits color schemes (Dawn's Gate, Blood Spider and Mute's Winter) when attacking and defending or can you only set them as your neutral color?
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>>169386881
Spam stuns, learn to feint your unparryable for headgames, and throw manlets off ledges.
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whats your opinion on the rare tier gear, especially weapons, I think most look fucking idiotic, especially the fuckin warden sword
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>>169387124
oh look that furry's back
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>>169387301
Nah I just saved his warden because I forgot to cap mine before the september test was over and mine was identical
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>>169386023
>language: your language
>never changes
>game locked to local languages only
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Post rep 3 Conqs pls
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Hey, did they ever fix the shugo exploit?
Is it safe to parry them yet?
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>>169387124
at least the carolean colors are even in the game
rip my world eaters scheme
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>>169386596
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>>169387287
There's usually at least one that's okay-looking, so just keep that component and if you find a better one, copy over the appearance.
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>lb crying about muh honor
>team lets him 1v1
>he plays like a huge bitch, running and trying to get pickups if he gets hurt
>eventually someone on my team gets bored and just kills him with a flash bomb
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>>169387425
>ubisoft
>fixing things
They're buffing PK for fucks sake
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>>169386780

no, and preferably he should be /deadguy/, northerner scum. talks like he's got a mouth full of oatmeal the fuckin pig
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>>169387504
>4v4
>4v4
>4v4
>2v2
>1v1

If you're trying to say For Honor is a 1v1 fighting game like Street Fighter is, you're an idiot.
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>>169387419
Still working on getting a nice flail.
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>>169387573
Probably one of those people who unironically believes duel is the main mode of the game
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>>169387573
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>>169384757
you sound irrational and salty
that "OP move" gives you a light, with superlow damage, and leaves you open to fuckton damage if you miss
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>>169386780
i've been watching his stream like just now
i haven't got a clue why he likes to put HIGH LEVEL DUELS!!! in his videos, he's clearly not that great
he doesn't seem like a bad dude, i just hate that giving humble commentary about what's happening automatically equals being good at the game to the masses
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>>169387573
just next time you ever talk about p2p, say right off the bat that youre a 4v4 shitter, it will save everyone the time and pointless discussions
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>>169387586
shoulders aren't very aesthetic
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>>169387586
Looking good. But I really dislike those bucket helmets. Are there any other heroic helmet options?
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>>169387586
>all the high level conq helmets are the uggo kettle helms and not the bucket helm
FUCK
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>>169387710
This games netcode is dogshit in general, the game mode doesn't matter.

>you
>>
nothing feels better than winning 1v4s with max revenge and attack gear nobus. the amount of salt is glorious. just went revenge 3x in one fight, killed entire team. glorious as fuck my dudes.
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>No deer antlers ornament
why are all of them so fucking shit
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>>169386758
>There are none because ...
only thats not how it works.
p2p is superior, there is no debate.
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>>169387756
Don't diss the kettles, senpai
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>>169387705
pretty sure he's actually ''high level'' at mortal kombat when he got started at twitch, so he just calls it high level out of habbit
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>>169387772
There are tier 3 bucket helms, I got one early on, but went with a kettle helm.
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>>169387798
>p2p is superior
Only is cost, not quality.
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>>169387890
wrong again
for 1v1 it is de facto superior
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>>169386736
From the looks of it, the same people that make kingdom hearts
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>>169387586
i want this, is this even in the game?
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>>169387969
>For Honor
>1v1 fighting game
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>>169387869
Hold the fuck up the one on the left is a rep 3 Conq helm? Fuck yes thank god I thought it was only kettle meme helms. That's badass as fuck.
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>>169388023
Ubisoft has actually done it.
they made a fighting game that also appeals to casuals, while not being so gimped that good players consider it garbage
fucking genius
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>>169387491
I miss the lime green yellow and red color from the alpha. I rocked Nurgle colors on my dueling LB and it was great, now the only fucking green in the game is like green and white at like rep 26, green and green at like rep 18, and like green and black at rep 10.
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>>169388023
>>>
>>169387710
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>>169387851

That's the thing, he wasn't high level at mortal kombat, in fact, a guy from /fgg/ challenged him straight up and absolutely dropkicked Tru3 so badly that he took his headset off and walked off for 5 minutes.

He used to stream Dark Souls and he'd put "high level duels" in there as well. It's straight up just clickbait titles.
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Valkyrie is cute?!
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>>169388139
>>>>
>>169387789
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>>169388075
It's literally the default conq helm just heroic. You should have known you can get a heroic version of the default because of fucking course you can, what did you think Ubisoft wouldn't pad their heroic gear numbers.

Its actually a good thing because it means that at Rep 3 and higher not everyone will end up looking like over engineered trash.
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>>169388075
As near as I can tell there's four "sets" of gear at each tier. So 4 helmets, 4 chests, etc. that will have matching names. Each tier has a fancier version of the previous 4 sets with a new name.

In the case of the Conqueror, 3 of the 4 sets have kettle helms. So in total you're looking at 9 kettle helms to 3 bucket helms, so I'm not surprised you didn't know.
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>>169387794
>Baratheon
Isn't that just art for Guild Wars 2 thought? Hell, i could fucking swear there's a charr there in the background.
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>>169387789
100 hours in + betas
zero problems in 1v1
move out of third world
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>>169388241
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>>169387851
all he seems to do is vs retards
cartoonz is kind of the same, though he isn't bad i swear to god he's nowhere near as good as people make him out to be
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>>169388264
>literally the default Conq helm
It literally is not. The default has eyeholes. That one is just a full mask with a bunch of little holes.
>>
>over 100ms of delay
>on top of your latency to other players
>"new and improved p2p"

I hope they never stop getting shit for how garbage this is. Trying anything over 2v2 is a delayed laggy mess.
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>>169388331
https://youtu.be/tAU5bIalbnc?t=10m51s
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>>169388353
did /trash/ do this?
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Knights get fucking defending our eastern border, stop pushing north.
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>>169388473
honestly I saw it first on /co/ but it probably originated from /trash/ tbfam
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>>169388445
>I have no problem
>>b-but look this guy says you should
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>>169388529
Are weebs gonna sweep Knights again?
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USE THE CRAB
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>>169388445
yes, and?
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Man Raiders have it rough. Ive fought the lvl 1 Practice bot so many times that I dont think its possible for Raiders to hit me anymore.
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>>169388652
I feel like this should be Conq's ornament
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>>169388652
I would use the crab, but that would require me to use Kensei.
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>>169388529
You retards are walking into the exact same situation you just got out of, it's incredible.
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>>169388667
>lvl 1 bot
>players feinting and outplaying you
>I am immune to Raiders now

???
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>>169388652

CRAB......BATTLE......UGH
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As an update
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>>169388529
Yes herro knights, prees ignore north


>>169388667
raider sucks but is really fun so I don't mind really, any number of small buffs would be nice
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>>169388869
>red nat
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>>169388869
dont worry

theyll activate the emergency losing buff and ragnarok will start again
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>>169388870
we're not even losing north though, we're currently winning
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>>169388667
Honestly Raider would be great if he didn't fucking swap stances so slowly. That's his biggest issue: his guard cannot keep up with some of the faster classes and attacks.

Other than that, his moveset is pretty good. Constant blinds, actual mixups, an unblockable he can just mix in with any combo. Good Raiders absolutely manhandle their opponents.
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>its a orochi and peaceshitter gank you then complain that you throw them off cliffs episode
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>>169388776
>tfw Weebs win round 1 because Knights don't defend their shit
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>>169388919
This is what happened last time and the Japs almost surrounded the stronghold
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>>169388212
>That's the thing, he wasn't high level at mortal kombat

oh, nevermind then lmao
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>>169382641
How do I even deal with PKs who spam zone cancels, lights and feints?

>parry them
If I miss a parry they get two hits in for free, and they have some of the fastest attacks in the game.
>>
I remember getting scavenger crates from matches as loot in the beta

Did they remove that?
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>>169388910
>2.5 MB download and 1 MB upload.
I live in a rural area
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At what point do you start getting gear beyond levels 1-4?
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>>169389086
It's only from event orders.

We haven't had an event yet, for some fucking reason. Even though, logically, the playerbase will be highest directly following launch.
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>>169389074
If you're one of the slow blockspeed characters
You don't
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>>169389110
Rep one are blues starting at 7
Rep 3 are purple at 13
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>>169389110
Level 7-9 gear drops pretty frequently throughout rep 2, especially the later parts
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>>169389110
Stop spending steel. Right now.

At Rep 1, you start getting guaranteed level 7 items in premium scavenger crates. At Rep 2, you get guaranteed level 9s. And at Rep 3, you start getting guaranteed highest level drops, with Heroic gear at level 13.
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>>169389097
want to do a quick duel since we're both on ps4?
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>muh 4v4's
>muh 400ms delay
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>people complaining about warden in 4v4
>warlord exists

You shouldn't be allowed to post here until you're rep 3+
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more like No Boobs She
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>>169389074
>>169389185

>PKs about to get their bleed damage off of GB trippled

I am ready for all the tears.
>>
>>169388637
>>169388659
>100ms network lag in lan connections
>people still say the netcode is fine

Ubishills are so delusional.
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>>169389415
>implying anyone is staying in games against PK even now
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>>169389415
>mfw packing thick blood
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>>169389331
>people complaining about X
>Y exists
>*insert angry comment about player skill*

/fhg/ in a nutshell
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>>169389238
You know my name I guess.
>>
>>169388659
>>169388637
>Game has a flaw that discredits P2P entirely
>"yes, and?"
>>
>>169389415
I hope you're ready for people leaving when the match starts

I already do it
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>>169389471
>thick blood
>in duel

Kek. I don't care about irrelevant modes.
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>>169389534
>duel
>not irrelevant
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>>169389534
>playing duels
>staying in a duel against a peaceshitter
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>>169389531
>Quitting matches against PKfags until they get tired of bots and stop maining that piece of shit
That's actually pretty good. I hope they don't add penalties for leaving.
>>
>>169388914
>Implying that's for anyone except knights
>>
>hit PK rep 3
>go play other classes
>play against other PKs
>they're zero problem

you're all fucking bad and are crying for no reason
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>>169389486
sent :)
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Buff Raider and Lawbringer. Tweak Kensei.

Nerf Warden, delete Peacekeeper.
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>>169389417
fine whatever
you can go away now
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>>169389717
how do you punish an exhausted PK who just backdodges to infinity and beyond
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Anyone here bought the Valkyrie emotes?

Are any of them a good BM-emote like the conq-RAW-RAW-RAW????

Her standard emote is so fkin lame, she just twirls around awkwardly as hell
>>
>>169389818
wait for him to come back
>>
>headbutt someone as shugoki
>it has one stamina cost then takes away an extra little bit a second later

I cant count the number of games ive lost from becoming exhausted this way
>>
>>169389818
You don't.

He's going to say GB but any PK worth their salt will just wait for you to GB so they can tech it before backdashing more.
>>
>>169389837
shes qute
emote is qute
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>>169389717
its not that they are difficult to fight
its that they are fucking annoying
>poke poke
>run away
>gets health bellow half
>run away
>backstab gallore
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>>169389484
Warlord is objectively and without question the best class 4v4
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>>169389728
raider is the only one who needs a buff and it only needs to be something relatively small like being able to use stampede in guard + fix the hitbox
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>>169389468
>>169389531
>>169389619

>giving me free wins

You would have been free kills anyway, but thanks! <3 Peacecutie a best.
>>
>>169389534
>>169389605
Duel and Brawl are the only relevant modes, shitlord.

The other ones are just NEETs making up for their lack of skill with huge gear advantages over pre-rep 1 new players and thinking they're hot shit.

You can literally switch from duels/brawl to 4v4 and you instantly notice the difference in skill. They just can't play and tend to run away once they're low without hitting you once. Especially the 108 gearscore Rep 6's and shit.

>>169389607
Leave all Peaceshitters, do not give them the satisfaction of mashing random directions on you.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4GNZ_iH4g
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>>169390037
Don't worry, I won't drop against you I play Warden
>>
>>169389717
No, you're likely shit and PK and playing against random shit PK's in Dominion, PK shitter.
>>
Whats with the disconnects 20% of the time in dominion? Got everything forwarded as far as ports and still this bullshit. Ubisoft is garbage.
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>>169390037
>Caring about number of wins
>Caring about stats at all

Yeah, enjoy winning bot games or whatever.
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Can someone explain Valk vortex to me please? How do I do it? Yesterday someone told me this:
>Throw>heavy>shield crush>throw>repeat
but it doesn't work
>>
>Faggot nazi with red connection
>They still lose miserably
>>
>>169390037
>free win
thats not how it works
>>
>>169390195
You have to do that against a wall.

You also have the classic leg sweep spam.
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>>169382768
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>>169390195
got to work some trips in there, senpai
>>
>>169382847

Every assassin and nobushi are fine for me, but warlord and conq can eat a bag of dicks. If I'm not being poked to death by his lightning quick headbutt combo it's conq blending me into a smoothly. All while they block everything, never fall for feints, and know how to gbc (not that it's hard)
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Does every PK have autism?
>>
>order to play skirmish matches with friend
>tfw no friends who play the game
>>
>>169390424
they wouldnt be playing PK if they werent autistic
>>
>>169382847
PK

Shits boring
>>
Quick, /fhg/
>your main class
>how you get people to stop turtling
>>
So here's what I don't get with the campaign. The literal last level where you kill Apollyon is 6 years in the past.

What fucking happens in the 6 years between what I assume is her death and "multiplayer"?
>>
>>169390037
>playing a crutch character
>thinks he can beat a level 3 bot

lol
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>>169390489
>PK
>stand infront of them
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post salt, also salt background guy hows it coming along?
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>>169390037
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>>169390349
>>169390380
thanks
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>>169389994
Lawbringer 100% needs one, he needs to either do some amount more damage or his moves need to not all cost a thousand stamina for jack fuck all in return.
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>>169390489
>warden
>feints
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>>169389994
You haven't played Lawbringer against someone who knows his kit, have you?
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>1v1
>final round
>game kicks me back to the main menu
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>>169390693
>Lawbringer 100% needs one,

Nah you're just bad
>>
Any particular reason when I type something I can no longer see it actually having been entered once I hit the return button?

Have had 0 problems with seeing chat, all the sudden not showing up today? This shithole game is beyond buggy.
>>
>>169390424
I wanna cream this cephalopod
>>
>>169390489
>Warden
>A lot of feinting, especially shoulder feints. If that doesn't work, then the ebig zone \ upper light chipping.
>>
>>169390489
>Conqueror
>Te occidam!
>>
>>169390767
fucks this from?
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>>169390489
>Kensei
>GB Finishers
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>>169390543
War between all 3 factions
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>>169390195
heavy>shieldbash>sweep\grab>heavy>...
same things as warden
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WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS BERSERKER'S POST-FEINT GUARDBREAK UNTECHABLE I DON'T TRY TO PARRY OR ANYTHING JUST SWITCHING GUARD DIRECTION MAKES ME UNABLE TO TECH WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREREEEE
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>>169390782
t. some shitter who can't counter GB or parry his slow as fuck unblockables
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>>169390489
KEN SAMA
JINJŌ NI SHŌBU
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>>169390782
Or you're retarded and haven't looked at any of their matchups in-depth at a level higher than whatever puddle your hidden MMR is stationed in. They have to put in a shit ton more effort just to get the same results most classes can get just throwing stuff out.
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So how do you actually lock down with Warlord
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>>169390489
law
i dont
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Characters that need a buff:
Lawbringer
Valk

Characters that are just fine:
Raider
Warden
Kensei
Conqueror
Shugoki
Warlord

Characters that need a nerf:
Oroichi
Berserker
Peacekeeper
Nobushi

Post yours
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>>169391024
Full block? Stance straight down.
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>>169391003
>hidden MMR

nice meme
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>>169391081
>berserker needs a nerf
>warlord is fine

low mmr games are truly a wonder
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>>169391003
there are no rankings
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>>169391081
Why does Valk need a buff? I got caught in a combo that took 2/3rds of my health by one once.

And all those fucking bashes and knockdowns, faster than Conq's. I don't know why people are saying she's weak.
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>>169391082
I mean his headbutt vortex, how does that actually work
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>>169391081

Lawbringer needs more moves. :( why doesn't he use the spear part of his halberd more.
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How do I level up the fastest? I want better gear.
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>>169391081
>Warden
>Fine
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>>169382641
>notice that nobushi can poison through block
>opponent claims it doesnt'
>it happens again, he runs away in embarrassment
>leave the game

yeah no thanks, she was strong enough without her MULTITUDE of gamebreaking bugs
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>>169391081
People who need to shut the fuck up: lawfags
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>>169391081
t. 4 hours played
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>>169391205
Dailies/bi-dailies
Duels & dominion vs bots
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>>169391081
What a shitlist.

Buff:
Lawbringer
Raider
Berserker

Fine:
Valk
Warden
Kensei
Orochi
Nobushi
Conq, though he arguably could be tuned down just a bit.

Nerf:
Warlord
PK


Can't tell if he needs a nerf or is fine:
Shugoki
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>>169391260
t. PKfag
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>>169391271
>bi-dailies
>bi-
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>>169391170
Just spam headbutt and the free poke you get off of it. Follow it up with a light or a zone.
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>>169391285
Finally someone gets it
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Is there anything more fun than burgerflipping someone 4 times in a row in brawls with LB while your teammate rains down top heavies?
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Why would you not play Kensei my man
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>>169391285
>Can't tell if shugoki needs a nerf or is fine
>Can homerun you/charge bash you into any pits in any map
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>>169391285
>keep warden as is but nerf warlord

lmao
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>>169391081
>nerf berserker
no, even if they do make some tweaks it better not be numbers, cause he already is shitting out damage, the problem is that its so predictable everyone can block or parry you with their eyes closed
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>>169391285
t. warden
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>>169391101
>>169391160
Even less reason then to be ignorant about how bad the Law is in most matchups.
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>>169391331
>if you're not my flavor of cancer you're another flavor
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i had a nightmare yesterday that i bought for honor and couldn't refund it

unrelated, how's this game coming along? last i checked it was a solved game with warden dominating upper mmr brackets and with turtling being pretty much the answer to every other strategy in the game. are they going to fix that any time soon?
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>>169391510
oh no, im just saying.
i main law myself, hes shit
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Spent half an hour to get an emblem to perfection for it to be deleted because the ubi site crashed. Why is everything that ubi owns flawed. Can't even use the ubi account without geting logged out every 10 minutes.
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>>169391406
There isn't.

https://files.catbox.moe/mz74ln.webm
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>>169388241
Talk about black sheep.
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>>169391285
>>169391081
Anyone who thinks Warden is fine and doesn't need to be toned down has never fought a good Warden.
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So I main Nobushi since I love her kit and poke playstyle but I was thinking of picking up an alt, something that complements her well but I was also thinking of maybe just picking up Conq on the side since I love flails. Suggestions?
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>>169384451
You don't have to guess against a Warden, that's a shit player meme.

Roll backwards. You should only be guessing if you're a class with a dodge attack because you can turn the momentum around by guessing right.
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>>169391591
kys
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>full sprint speed gear
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>>169391205
Rep 3 is purple gear.
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>>169391591
heh
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>mfw everyone who switched from knight to samurai because they were winning
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>>169391590
>que dishonorable
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>>169391730
>Shugoki with sprint gear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETfiUYij5UE
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>>169391428
I do though. Even as a musclebound northmen, ken the sei gets my respect, even if the rest of his countrymen are roaches and cowards most often.
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>>169384393
Can you afk lvl on PC too?
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>>169391285
add warden to nerf list and I agree
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>>169391806
There aren't people who think faction matters other than aesthetics are there?
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>>169391912
Nigga hahaha just learn to parry, like nigga just cgb.
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>>169391992
>try to cgb
>get bashed

>try to dodge the bash
>get guardbroken

epic
>>
>tfw there aren't faction alignment specific aesthetic options for every character
>tfw you can't be a viking with bits of platemail or chainmail if you're allied with the knights
>tfw no viking converted PK
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>>169391953
Why wouldn't you take pride in your faction, your brothers in arms!
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>>169392127
>viking converted PK
>She is just naked with a dog collar
>>
>reminder if you use PK as main you cant really play the game
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>>169391992
found the warden player
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>>169392067
>roll backwards
>can't get hit
>???
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>>169392067
He's guessing as much as you are, man. Maybe get better at reading.

Also, like Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Warden's Vortex Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Roll Away From Him Like Nigga Just Dodge Back Twice Haha
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>>169392238
>roll is three times the stamina
>cant roll without stamina
???
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>>169392160
Mostly I just want to avoid knights
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>>169392310
>Oh no I get punished for using all my stamina!

You main PK, don't you?
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>>169392261
t. warden player
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>>169392231
Are you assuming my class!?
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>>169392467
Post your hero select screen.
>>
Why are there female exclusive heroes? This is sexist bullshit. Why aren't there any male exclusive heroes to make it fair?
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>>169382740
u fukin kno it

>>169383231
Btw, I stopped working on my webm maker. I found that it is slow to start rendering the parts that you want to be turned into webms because it reads over EVERYTHING until it gets to the part that you actually want to be made into a webm. At that point though when it does render it's faster than webm for retards. If someone knew a way around the pre-reading I would continue work on it but having to wait 2 minutes for it to read 4 minutes of video to render out the last 20 seconds of a 5 minute video isn't worth it.

I suggest using webm for retards unless you have a pre-edited clip that the entire length is going to be made into a webm.

Also that, person is shitposting, I'm not actually a hacker

In anything but dark souls that is
>>
Boy I sure do love theory fighters.

Here let me try.

Just Guard Break Warlord.
Just dodge Shugoki's instant kill grab
Just Guard Break Conqueror
Just block Peacekeeper
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>>169392590
Shugoki, Lawbringer, Warlord.

Alternatively, shitty bait, apply yourself.
>>
hey what if

instead of nerfing the Warden

we buffed everyone else to the Warden's level
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>Conqueror and Warden are so overpowered!
I can't stop laughing at this, what game are you guys playing?
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>>169392590
There are dumbass
Lawbringer, warlord, and Shoguki are male exclusive
Do you even play?
>>
>>169392590
stick to /v/eddit
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>>169392590
because there are male exclusive heroes?
>>
anyone want to see PK purple helms?
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>>169392735
Shugoki is gay tho
>>
>No option to remove everything except your own health/stam bar from the UI

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>
>>169392657
>Just dodge Shugoki's instant kill grab

That one's valid, though. If he's low you know hes probably going to try to hyper armor trade for it. Just be careful and bait it out: he's a free kill after it misses.

Also don't get parried or GB'd near a wall, because then you're a dead man.
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>>169392729
I had a roach earlier start bitching and whining about facing a Nobushi and PK.
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>>169392561
Just for you, sweetheart.
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>>169392851
Bitching about MemeStick is valid though, PK not really.
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>>169392631
Also more "exploiting" salt because people found out that debuff resistance lets you recover after getting parried faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msz4lvOTIfM
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>>169392729
Conqueror is genuinely overpowered, it's just that half of his tech is missing from his in-game movelist for some fucked up reason.
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>>169392808
Technically you shouldn't need to see your health, because you should always be playing to not get hit. Being low shouldn't change how you play from being full.

Only exceptions I can think of are the characters with hyper armor attacks and you're trying to trade for a killing blow.
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Buff Raider.
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>>169392820
his grab has a bit of tracking on it
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>>169392952
Only if you use the black color
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>>169392929
I thought hyperarmor attacks prevent lethal blows? I've tried to trade with Shugokis and Warlords on like a pixel of health and I always lose?
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>>169392919
He really isn't, not by any metric. He does barely any damage, his shield bash does no damage and isn't really useful, he's pretty fucking slow and his swing swing smash is so telegraphed it comes by carrier pigeon. Compared to every other character in the game aside from MAYBE Valkyrie he's shit.
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>>169392929

Or Shuggy's instaKO bearhug, which only takes effect at low health. Although in that case the screen turns red at that point so I guess not.
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I love peacekeeper!
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>>169393098
t. conqueror
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>>169393187
>Shadman
>Worst girl
>>>>>>Shadman

Go play in traffic.
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>>169392929
Hadn't thought of it that way. Still, I like to be able to see my stamina, so I know which attacks I can use and when I need to hold back.

I just don't need to see my feats or other players icons when they're on the other side of the map.
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>>169390037
>crutch character for shitters to think they're good
Any wins with PK aren't real wins so
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>>169392353
>oh no i dont get punished for the strongest move in the game that at best resets into neutral with my enemy at half stamina!
you seem like a huge faggot, so ill assume youre the warden\pk main
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>>169393187
It's weird that the thing that triggers me about this image is how bad the swords are drawn and they don't match PK's swords.
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>Warden knocks me over and takes off 80% of my health in one hit.
Fucking HOW
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>dueling Shugoki as Conq
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Explain to me how it's possible to win 1v1s as Lawbringer after you prestige
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>>169393187
this might be the first decent piece of art shad has ever done
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>>169391163
>I got caught in a combo
The thing about valk right now is, tho her kit seems large, she is very predictible so its easy to dodge her combos. The next patch will give her some more options.
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>>169393393
Probably gear stats, revenge in particular.

Welcome to 4v4 faggot.
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>>169393507
IT WAS IN A BRAWL
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>169392715
50\50s arent fun
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How's this?
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>>169392874
recruiting pk
>>
Is anyone else getting a stuck at the Read before playing startup screen? I can't seem to get past it. Game was working fine up until this morning.
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Why all the PK hate in this thread?
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>>169393273
They're not too bad sometimes.
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>>169393535
Then no clue. Best guess is either P2P bullshit or you're bad at math, then. I think Warden's strongest attack barring his upper crushing is just an upper heavy for 1.5 bars of health.

If his team mate was up, could it have been possible they smacked you as well?
>>
>>169393596
If you removed 50/50s from the game there would be no reason to do anything other than block
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>>169393098
>Conqueror is bad because his offensive options are bad in a game where defensive options are king

Please don't comment on posts if you just started playing the game today.
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>>169393451
you parry
thats about it
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>ally is getting rekt by a bot in duel
>just stand there and watch
>few seconds later pic related
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>>169393646
This is even more broken if you wait for them to attack so they get knocked over by your revenge. Straight up killing niggas before they can get off the ground.
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>>169393646
If you don't know, you've just been lucky enough until now.
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>>169393735
No u stop playing the game if you're actually getting beat by THE WORST character lmao
>>
>>169393451
Wait for your opponent to fuck up, or just parry and gb a lot. In general, be aggressive and bully them with your shove. If it's a peacekeeper, you lose. She has 12 frame light attack spam that outspeeds most people's guard direction switch.
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>>169392715
Yes. Mixups and fast pokes being widespread would help against this stale defensive meta.
>>
>>169393601
Looks nice, but very hard to distinguish when the icon gets smaller.

If you could avoid yellow-on-orange it'd be easier to see.
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>>169393708
i'd rather they rework it
50\50s are boring.
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>>169393601
Change the colors so they don't blend together and it's good.
>>
>>169392909
Why are Wardens the saltiest players in the game? Like nigga you're using a hands-down broken character and you're the one pissing and moaning when you get BTFO.
>>
>>169393601
Avoid putting similar colors over one another.

On that note, consider changing the background to a 50/50 split, with one side green and the other orange. Then change the towers colors so that they have the same colors as the background on the opposite side.

I would make the lion a third tertiary color, and make your odd lil red and black split match the color of the castle towers, so it looks like a singular building.
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>>169393431
I literally don't know what to do in this situation.

Assuming equal skill levels, a Conq cannot beat a Shugoki, this is just the truth.
>>
>>169393856
What's boring about them? Reading your opponent is an important aspect of good fighting games.

>inb4 Dominionshitters with "hurr it's not a fighting game"
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>>169393601
Its too busy. Need contrasting colours to make any sense of it.
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>>169389837
I got skyward spear, but then I don't try to spam anything that isn't readily spammable.
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>>169393601
It's a mess. It blends into a yellowish-orange blob at a distance. Look at the fucking thumbnail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_tincture
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alright /fhg/ im a shitter and i need to pick someone to focus on so i can maybe not be s shitter.

Who should i pick?

I don't want to be some class that everyone hates either
>>
If you play any Samurai characters and don't fight honorably, kill yourself.

>Fighting Nobu
>Get her down to red
>She runs halfway across the map

>FIghting roach
>Immediately proceeds to GB and throw me off

Just join the Knights already.
>>
>>169394054
>""""""""""Reading""""""""""" your opponent tossing a coin
So this is the mentality of fighting game players
>>
>>169394042
bahaha how is shugoki even real just parry the light like just parry the light

it takes him 14 frames to change guard so you know which way its coming from
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>>169393273
I unironically enjoy shadshit because I love how utterly trashy it looks and I'm into rimming.
>>
>>169394042
the only things you need to worry about as conq are the hug and the unblockable exploit
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>>169394223
>not taking every possible opportunity to win
>not punishing people with environmental kills

You are trash
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>>169394189
Nobushi you literally can't lose
Unblockable attacks that do 1/2 a bar of health and add bleed
People say this is "balanced" so go ahead
>>
>>169394189
Conq is top tier but somehow still considered respectable for some reason. Consider him.
>>
>>169387224
you can go check by looking and seeing if they're in the list of attacker colors, they'll be the outfits which say they're "unlocked by getting an outfit at rep ##" or something. I think some outfits actually come with alternative color pallets for team modes.
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>>169394345
Nobushi's unblockable doesn't do damage.
And you can just play Conqueror to avoid the followup if you get hit by the kick.
>>
Im up to the Samurai campaign and have been using the KB+M controls the whole time, should i switch to Gamepad?
Mouse feels really awkward
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>>169394054
reading cointoss is not fun
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>>169390062
>The other ones are just NEETs making up for their lack of skill with huge gear advantages over pre-rep 1 new players and thinking they're hot shit.

Outside of Revenge, gear doesn't make big enough of a difference to matter. You thinking that it does only proves you have no clue what you're talking about.

You can say the same thing about people who only play duel and then go over to 4v4, they have literally no clue what they're doing and are usually the worst people on the team. Which is rather hilarious.
>>
We need this adapted for fh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LG5AAKzmkU
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>>169394472
Every single attack she has in unblockable what are you on about my man
>>
>>169394223
Only Kensei players are honoburu
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>>169390489

Berserker.
I wish I ccould.
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>>169390876

Suicide Squad.
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>>169394408
>Conq
>top tier
This meme gets better and better
>>
>>169394330
>You are trash

You're right. Let's just wipe ALL combat mechanics from the game and simply allow deaths by ledges only.

People like you are the reason why Duels aren't enjoyable.
>>
they should stop people from getting war resources in player vs AI matches
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QUICK!

"RALLY" OR "THE SHAME"? KEEP IN MIND I'M USING THE CRAB!
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>>169394894
i dont know what you're talking about and i dont care
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>>169394796
If you are out of position and fail to defend yourself you DESERVE to get thrown off.
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>>169394489
Is a defensive staring contest fun? Do you enjoy not being allowed to attack because you get parried on reaction and GBs are useless?

I mean, have fun if that's the case.
>>
How do you do that xp afk thing?
>>
Why in the ever living fuck is Revenge even a thing in 1v1. Keep this fucking cancer in the 4v4 modes.
>>
why is deflect not working on berserker?
also i always get killed mid dash, no matter if im early or late
>>
>>169392353

Yeah, well, what else do you want? You literally said it yourself, you roll to get out of the vortex. If you have no stamina, because the nigger is right up your asshole again, trying to trap you again, you have to roll again. You'd understand this yourself most of all, since this is what you fucking retards preach all the time.

>just light attack him!!

Yeah, and hope you're one of the literal 3 that has a fast enough light attack to cancel it.

>just side-step attack!!

As has been disproved time and time again, your attack frames begin much later on most characters, so odds are, if the Warden is worth a shit, you'll get guard-broken before your attack frames begin. Which means your GB is caught by a dodge, which means you can't tech it.

>j-just.. j-just don't get caught in a vortex!!

Yeah, you feel free to point me at the Warden that doesn't spam that shit constantly because they know it's easy wins.


Your entire argument is flawed.
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>just geared up my rep 3 PK with purples and now he's OP as fuck

I actually feel bad for using him now
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>>169395026
lmao nigga just run away
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>>169394894
Use ''The Shame'' every single time your opponent runs away for a buff in Elimination or when he pops revenge in a 1v1
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>>169395068
>PK
>he

?
>>
>>169391528
>upper mmr brackets

There's no "mmr brackets" you fucking dolt.
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Do you think Ranked games will do away with Weapon Stats cancer?

I doubt it. Stick to Brawl and D00ls
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>>169395206
>not knowing that PK is a cuntboy
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>>169395175
GOT IT
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>>169383943
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>>169395279
That's gross, and I like traps.
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>>169394998
>Is a defensive staring contest fun?
i said i wish they change it, read the posts next time
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>>169395362
>I wish they'd change the defensive gameplay
>But I don't want more strong offensive options because strong offensive options are not fun

???
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remove zone attacks
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>>169395352
You're gross
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>>169391701
pick up some rope from the hardware store and neck yourself weeaboo noobushi player
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>>169395279
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>>169395472
Oh yeah, Kensei's 10 second slow motion dance is cancerous to the game.
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>>169395045
>Berserker, Peacekeeper, Orochi, Kensei and Raider can all sidestep and attack fast enough
>Conqueror and Warlord can either eat the shoulder bash and full guard while staggered or just counter the guardbreak. Conqueror can also sidestep shield bash, and Warlord can just headbutt him mid shoulder charge animation
>Shugoki
>Why the fuck does Shugoki care about a shoulder bash, hit the faggot
>Why is he even close enough for a Nobushi to be worrying about this? Nobushi should be able to safely poke him out of it every time he tries.

So who does that leave? Warden, Valkyrie, and Lawbringer?

I'm sure they have ways of dealing with it too.
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What's the hardest you have ever raged in a match, /fhg/?
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>>169394485
Anyone?
Need a response
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>>169395454
are you an idiot?
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>>169395694
all the zone attacks we have are either broken or pointless
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What the fuck people? Why are we taking vikings land while this shit is happening?
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>>169395873
Getting hit by a Nobushi 5 times in a row when she just did an overhead poke despite me blocking overhead every single time
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>>169395883
I have been playing with M+KB for 150 hours and I am doing fine, it depends on what yo uare comfortable with.
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>>169395759
Warden's upper light is quick enough to hit him out of it, I think.
Lawbringer can shove.
Valkyrie has a side dash attack, but it's not especially fast.
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>>169395924
>knights
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>>169395873
getting poisoned despite blocking vs nobushi

that or when I still thought you could block vs PK and that I was just "missing" it somehow
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>>169395883
correct controls are always the ones you start with
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>>169395924
why are you still asking this? the answer is the same every fucking time fuck off
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>>169395962
I get this aswell. Is it a skill of the nuboshi or just p2p connection?
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>>169395924
>knights are retarded
Who would have thought ?
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>>169396060
I don't see how it can be anything other than NB bullshit because it was in a Brawl and I was blocking up (Conq) by default because it's what you do when fighting cancer. It made no sense how it kept hitting me when I didn't adjust my stance even once
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>>169395983
It just feels awkward when trying to manage stances, like i could see how the analog sticks would be more comfortable since they have a barrier.
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>>169395502
>Weeaboo for enjoying long range poke
Are you retarded or "pretending"?
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>roomate is a retard
>come home to play some For Honor
>hes got a bunch of shit laid out on our coffee table
>ask wtf hes doing
>he says hes casting a spell to weaken donald trump
>ask what that means
>says i wouldnt understand
>i go to my room and shrug it off, hes done stupid shit like this before
>im playing Warden and he walks in
>"you know the Knights are literally medieval nazis, right? Why not just play Samurai or Viking classes?" (He plays the game with me a lot too)
>tell him he is retarded
>he says my "Deus Vult hate speech" is retarded too
okay i know its blogposting but jesus fuck can someone please explain how autistic /pol/ memes have bled into my fucking home
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>>169383923
tfw lvl 98 warden with a focus in damage and r-damage. Knock over nobushi in revenge mode. One shot her with an overhead heavy. Pottery
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>>169395924
focus on bottom defense
im dumping there as well
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>>169383923
it's the reason I wear minimum stamina gear, not minimum defense gear
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>>169396191
Was he doing this ironically ?
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>>169383923
>>169396209
get defence on your weapon losers
and never attack before gb
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>>169396191
Please tell me this is a joke
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>>169396191
it sounds like autistic tumblr shit tbchf
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new list boys, get amongst it
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>>169395873
12K 0D

I main Kensei
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>>169396171
Not him but you're a coward if you need to stay at range from your opponent and spam pokes. That's why Noobushit is a scrub character
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>>169396402
>shugoki
no
lights the speed of assasins
headbutt stamina dran
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>>169396414
Damn you really are retarded.
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>>169396402
fuck off true
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>>169396462
>14 frames to change guard
>not parrying it every single time

ishygddt
>>
Just bought For Honor and I'm getting my shit kicked in by level 3 bots

what do lads
>>
Does this game run worse if I move it from my SSD to my external hard disk? I need to make space for TW Warhammer
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Do vikings wash their disgusting germ stained beards?
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>>169395759

Actually, Berserker can get GBd.
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>>169396191
witchs are doing magic to kill danald on a certain date(hint:it wont work), you room mate is a faggot for wanting trump dead AND believing in magic.

basically this is how bernie can still win
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>>169395502
>calling someone a weeaboo
>on a weeaboo website
>that is owned by a japaneese man
fratta cross
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>>169396560
Level 3 bots are murderers.
Could easily 4v1 noobshitters.
Either keep practicing against it & get gud, or just go to matchmaking if you want to win some.
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>>169396209
>falling for the level 98 meme
just go up to 117 honestly.
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>>169382641
>dodge nobushi kick
>she can light immediately after
>im supposed to pretend this is ok

when is this retarded class getting gutted
>>
NOBUSHI IS AUTISTIC FOR SHITTERS
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>>169396314
no, he calls himself a "wiccan" and believes all of it. He mains Orochi and Nobushi, if that helps explain his personality.
>>169396361
i wish
>>169396368
im pretty sure he uses tumblr if thats what youre saying but im not completely sure. Unless youre saying this is tumblr tier bullshit in which i cant really say I blame you. It probably seems a lot more ridiculous when you arent used to his shit like I am.
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>>169396560
Play against people.
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>>169396701
>He mains Orochi and Nobushi
say no more my man
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>>169382641
>play agaisnt OK
>they literally just go in, spam all sorts of fast random attacks and get out
>I cant deal with it even though I parry the shit out of any other class

Send help!
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>>169396402
>>169396661
>>169396684
see boys, my list is accurate.

don't forget to rate, comment and subscribe
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>>169396571
WITH BLOOD
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>>169391861
thats what i am doing
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Quick, post your hero themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1zovwy51p0

Kensei.
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>fighting a 1v2
>one of them gets revenge
fuck the gear system
>>
>Fighting Warden
>KB + combo
>KB + combo
>KB + combo
>KB + combo
>GOOD FIGHT!

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169396191
>things that never happened
Fuck off trumpster knight.
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>faction war doesn't matter until the last 3 days

Knight bros making that strong comeback.
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How do I valk vs conq? It doesn't help that valk has shit for stamina, but the conq constantly draining my stamina does seem to help. It also seems like her recovery time for getting hit is pretty slow. I have trouble dodging the conqs shield charge even when I know its coming and I spam dodge, most of the time it doesn't even start the animation, let alone let me dodge it.
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>get to Rep 3
>4v4 modes are just people getting Revenge in 2 hits

Revenge is the worst fucking shit about this game.
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>>169396793
Literally unlock, roll away, combo gone
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Is ubisoft still doing the 20% off deal?
>>
Should I play this on PC or ps4?
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>>169396793
>knock players of the ledge in a duel with LB
>good fight!
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>>169389806
>ubisoft employee has to defend P2P
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>>169396402
Finally a list that truly reflects the world we live in.
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>>169396935
I think vanilla revenge is fine but revenge gear is what pushes it over the top.
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>Brawl against a conq and a warden
>Allied Nobushi says our opponents aren't honorable, and that they 2v1'd him last time
>Hate ganking people, but can't afford taking any chances since I'm having a bad day
>Gank the enemy all game, win a 1v2 pitched against me in the last one
>They're BRs, call us losers
>Warden spams 50/50
>Conqueror attempts to spam shield bash > heavy > shield bash
On the one hand, I feel I've dispensed unrelenting law, but on the other, they're BRs, and I don't trust BRs.

What is the veredict?
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>>169396935
>Dominion against gear 108 kensei
>Fight him
>It isn't so bad i wonder what's all the fuss about
>He pop revenge, delete my entire life bar with two hits
Alright
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>>169382641
How do I fight Nobushis? Every time I try to get close they spam their attacks my way, every time I parry them I am out of range to do anything.
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>>169396402
>Shugoki that high
>Peacekeeper above Orochi (even though both are equally shit)
lmao kiddo
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>>169396859
I did not vote for Donald Trump, actually.

But I still understand your skepticism. That being said, he just does this shit on a whim. A month ago he was on a "Buddhism" kick and tried to get me to go vegan because of magical geometry or some shit. I simply made the post because it seemed strangely akin to the stupid shit you see here on 4chan.
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>>169396772
Conq:

https://youtu.be/AzUHaRsxFzg
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>you walk into a club and these guys start giving you the stink eye
What do you do
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>Some level 15 kensei joins my game
>hits me through my blocks
>no matter the block or even if it's a parry I still take full damage

w-what just happened
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>>169396787
game is 1v1 2v2 only
dont play shit modes
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>>169390489
>lb
>shove, heavy, shove, long pole
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>tfw you bump into someone as good as you and the match is really close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWae6r7Blw
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>>169397183
take out the nigger first
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>>169397121
Get their back against a wall. They tru to get out - you punish it.
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>>169397184
>'easy anti-cheat system'
That's what happened
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>>169397121
stand in their face
parry into gb
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>>169397152
Bro just ignore him as best you can. Most roommates are batshit crazy for some reason but if he pays rent on time then he should be tolerable.
>>
Using PK is cheating.
>>
should i work on conq or raider for rep3?
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>>169397237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTXmxssQkaM&t=127s
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>>169390489
What is turtling? I'm not up-to-date with the lingo of you youngins
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>>169396191
>People like this exist
The last 2 years really ruined our world worse than the century that came before.
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>>169397237
>msw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFgDqQQLwnI
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>>169396568
Somebody please. It's important
>>
>Updating game state!
>Game crashes

For fuck sake Ubi
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>>169397506
Nigga u dumb af
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>>169397506
>does something run worse on a HDD instead of a SSD
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Who is the best looking character once you equip high rep items?
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>>169394096
give webum of spam please
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>you can't parry and GB a nobushi as a berserker
>you can parry and do a heavy strike because that moves you forward
>not the GB though
>which is usually known for having weird ranges
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>>169397621
Lawbringer, lawbringer always looks dashing!
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I'm sick of teammates giving free revenge mode and getting slaughtered afterwards. Just saw my entire team getting killed by a single Kensei. They don't even try to parry him or disable him. At the very least try to attack while he isn't guarding, but instead we have him getting revenge mode over and over again.
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>>169397447
Oh please, cry me a river. I agree that his roommate sounds like a piece of work, but there's nothing special about the degeneracy of the last several years. Culture always swings back and forth like this. You don't think your great grandparents were disgusted by the culture of the 60s and 70s? But then those decades gave rise to Reagan and the conservative 80s. People need to stop freaking out and acting like tumblr and /pol/ are representative of some new permanent human mentality.
>>
>remove revenge
>suddenly it's all fun and games
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>>169397621
Lawbringer.
Warden.
All the knights, really.
Personally, i'm a fan of Valk.
>>
>>169397734
This is why all I do in those situations as Conq is either charging shield bash or wind up a fully charged heavy and look intimidating.
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>>169397798
>suddenly everyone ganks and you die in one second without a chance
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>>169397762
>there's nothing special about the degeneracy of the last several years
There is because this shit will last for at least a decade. It's engraved in this generation and possibly the next one too. Don't be stupid.
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>>169397183
Are vikings the reason why there is no aztec/maya faction ?
Their "legendary" weapons do look like some treasure taken from an old temple.
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>>169397879
You are fucked eitherway if it is 1 vs. 4.

I know I have never made it out alive.
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>>169397407
"Playing correctly to not take damage from your opponent" is apparently a shithead scummy thing to do.
>>
how do I level up faster?
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>>169397989
git gud
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>>169397904
Did you read my comment at all? Of course this lasts a generation or two because that's how it works. Kids grow up and rebel against the status quo. It's a cycle that's happened before but America and the world are still here. I'm tired of hearing people whine about it like it's the end of civilization as we know it.
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>>169396772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIwbusbN1g
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Ubisoft needs actual fucking servers.

I'm tired of never being able to tech a single GB when I'm supposed to because of the host lag. I effectively have to predict the fucking thing which is basically luck. I don't fucking care what anyone else thinks.
>>
>>169384732
>implementing penalty for leaving games

>p2p netcode is garbage and penalizes everyone in the game when host leaves
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>>169397989
just be a pk or orochi and spam light attacks\area attack
cant do anything to you
>>
>>169398027
>play vs bots
>go afk, sleep,shit,eat whatever
>come back
>you have leveled up because the games just keep rolling.
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>>169398083
>host lag

AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Get good you fucking shitter.
>>
>>169397734
just... stop hitting them then?

if your teammate wants to be a badass and step in, let them get rocked.
>>
What is the best thing to do after parrying as a warden?
>>
New Thread
>>169398107
>>169398107
>>169398107
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>>169398094
But I main Lawboy and I will not resort to the cheaper classes!
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>>169398008
boring as fuck and nothing happens
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>>169382641
Do you guys know when the new patch will be released? I've read the notes at the top, but I couldn't find a release date.
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>>169397020
yeah but
dude
he has no
revive speed
the trade off
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>>169398064
>I'm tired of hearing people whine about it like it's the end of civilization as we know it.
The baby boomer civilization marked the end of the national pride and united work towards a common goal in favor of individualism and the "me me me" attitude.

The current generation is against freedom of speech and free choice of what to like/dislike. What do you think is gonna happen, huh?
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>>169384929
t. snowback or swampweeb
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>>169396402
>peacekeeper above anything
>valkyrie and kensei on the same level as peacekeeper
>warlord and shugoki that high
shit
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>>169398178
4v4 is not for you.
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>use Kensei
>get to people who actually know what they're doing
>can't do shit

Should I just switch to Nobushi or some shit? What the fuck is this?
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>When you get to renown 2 abusing the perma-combo on the lawbringer by forcing people into corners so they can't get out

I know you browse this thread you autist.
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>>169398132
>I share a general with monkeys like this one
Please die.
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>>169397960
they prob existed in the universe, but went extint before cataclysm or something. i mean the weapons definitely look like some treasure that they've plundered
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>>169397582
>>169397614
My point is how much worse it works. On warhams it completely changes the game making time loadings tolerable. Is it more bearable on this game?
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>>169398240
>What do you think is gonna happen, huh?
The world will keep spinning and idiots like you will keep proclaiming that it's doomed because of the behavior of a few of his peers. People like the original anon's roommate will always exist in one form or another, but the only way it really affects you is if someone like that holds power and shifts public policy. Trump won so you're safe for at least 4 years (if you consider the aforementioned roommate to be the dangerous one, anyway).
>>
>>169398368
Unless you're against the god tier characters like conq warlord and warden I don't see why you can't do shit.

Play the parry and feint game.
>>
>>169398620
>Trump won so you're safe for at least 4 years
Trump winning will only worsen the situation, you goddamn retard. Dumbass leftists are gonna scream even harder to get him out and complain about anything he does.

You're underestimating the infectious vocal minority.
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>>169398668
>god tier
>conq
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>>169398809
>>"Trump winning will only worsen the situation"
>Angry leftists is much worse than full military involvement in both Ukraine and syria
>>
>>169396751
H-How?
>>
Orochi does not need a free heavy after GB.
that's all.
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>>169398901
>implying conq isn't godtier
>>
Explain me how you beat a defensive PK with perfect reactions
>>
>>169398906
>Degenerancy, pushing social agendas down people's throats and the decay of the social structure = civil wars
What the fuck are you even talking about anymore?
>>
>>169399030
>how do you beat someone who plays perfect
you realise how dumb that sounds?
>>
>>169399075
>>Degenerancy, pushing social agendas down people's throats and the decay of the social structure = civil wars
Who the fuck even said anything about that? Are you ok?
>>
>>169398901
>Doesnt have to parry shit so no risk
>Shield charge into a free light
>If opponent starts dodging shield charge you can fake it into an uncounterable gb
>Your block stops all combos
>>
>>169391428
Because I'd rather bring the law on your ass.
Why are there so many weeb fuckers in duels and brawls? Fuck even in dominion I'm overrun with you spamurai pieces of shit
>>
xth for kushqueen discord.
>>
>>169398809
There's no reasoning with you is there? If the very fact that people complain on twitter and other echo chambers is enough to convince you that the apocalypse is nigh, you should build a bomb shelter right now and cut off contact with the outside world because you're clearly not fit to deal with it. Your other option is to learn to distinguish the reality of the situation from the fantasy you've built in your head based on words on a screen, because if you were to go outside you'd know that things are very much fine and that you spend too much time obsessing over tumblr screencaps and god knows what else.
>>
>>169399116
In other fighters you can beat the perfect defence. You can't here, and PK can punish any chars move
>>
>>169399139
So you have the attention span of a goldfish. Here's your last (You).
>>
>try dominion
>try fighting someone
>two-three more people start hitting me in the back
who enjoys this game mode?
>>
>>169399312
>someone blocks perfectly high low, left right crossups, and techs every throw
i mean, except for the fact that there is chip damage, fighting games aren't any different.
if someone truly reacts perfectly to everything you do, you are either not creative enough with your mixups or he's just that good and deserves to win.
>>
>>169399301
>If the very fact that people complain on twitter and other echo chambers is enough to convince you that the apocalypse is nigh
It's enough to convince the government that they should be listened to. I'm not saying the apocalypse is nigh, I'm saying the rate of which the world is becoming shittier increased exponentially in the past few years.

You sound like a sheltered child, or rather, a leftist who pretends not to see what's happening out there. Maybe you gotta meet some of them on the street to realize how deluded you are.
>>
>>169399514
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>>169399514
Holy fucking shit are you from some alternate reality or something? Look who's in the white house. If the current government was anywhere near what tumblr wants, "literally shaking" wouldn't be a meme. When's the last time you left your house?
>>
>>169399480
But what's gonna happen in high level duels in the future when people master this game when attacking only invites a loss?
>>
>>169383412
>some blurb an intern wrote on their website
>versus what was written, recorded, and placed in the storymode detailing Apollyon's musings on "who" pushed the Samurai away from their homeland

noob
>>
>>169399551
>>169399514
>>169399313
>>169399301
>>169398809
>>169398906

This is not pol
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>>169399749
humans are still human, plus the netcode will force a mistake sooner or later.
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>replaced by a level 3 bot
Idk if he rage quit or lost connection but I love being punished by being made to fight bots because someone leaves
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>>169399880
Well I guess only special people can consistently parry a mixed up PK zone
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>>169399774

Well for starters, how would that somehow negate it? How do you know an intern put it there?

Second, Apollyon says they got ran out by SOMETHING, and she doesn't know WHAT drove them out of their land, she didn't say WHO. It's never implied or stated to have been an occupying force. The main website specifically states that they got driven out of their land by Sea and Fire. Stop being autistic.
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>>169400585
I'd trust the ingame lore more than whatever is on their website, which anyone could have written. Why would some text on a website contradict the ingame lore?

I don't have access to the soundbyte but I'm fairly certain I saw it posted in one of these threads and that Apollyon specifically said "who". Trust me dude, I'm right and you're wrong.
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Lewd keeper gone from the general?
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>>169400767
No, she wait WHAT, retard. Stop being a fucking faggot.

Source: https://youtu.be/CrN5J-OFfJM?t=4m1s

Now fuck off and kill yourself immediately.
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>>169386736
I see nothing wrong with this blade.
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>>169401316
>she wait WHAT

Lol you can't even type, your wrong dude fuck off haha
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