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>Spammed the music box:
>>169298802

>1.10 patch notes:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261608645322016043

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILER): https://my.mixtape.moe/ldkpad.webm

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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RED MAN COME HOME!

DS2 return TOMORROW
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First for crucify the BFposters like Aleksandra
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This thread is now blessed by Kriemhild's creamy thighs.
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With the rage against Aleksandra, perhaps you'd like to purchase some indictments?
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>>169353198
Stop posting this wretched shit because a terrible artist made up a nonsensical headcanon for you to jack off to
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Anyone on PS4 need help with anything?

Alternatively, would anyone be willing to gift me any of the +2 rings? Especially Havel's, Chloranthy, and FaP?
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>>169353143
Never thought too much about Priscilla but the last one is accurate.
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So, is anyone else oddly kinda hype for that new Zelda game?

I know it's not exactly the right thread, but the combat looks rather Dark Souls-y, as it supposedly has parrying and stamina management.

Also, some mild Zelda hype got me to roll a new build in Dark Souls 3 for the first time in a while.
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GLORIA FORTIS MILES
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>>169353143
This is in the wrong order, and Maiden should be above Herald
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>>169353324
>Scas has to trace his noses to make them look adequate
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>>169353148
>>169353248
I'm actually quite proud to have made such an impact on this place with only ~3 days worth of shitposting.
I feel like I've achieved something
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is Quelana of Izalith cute?
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and Velka, Goddess of Sin.
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>>169353143
Where does the Bloodborne doll go on that?


Also, has it been decided whether or not Bloodborne, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and King's Field are all part of the same continuity, yet?
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>>169353453
No, she has a perpetual case of swamp-ass
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>>169353402
>discordshit
literally who
fuck off
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>>169353431
>reason why a dedicated host is gone
>acts like a faggot in every FC, takes space up all the time
>contributed to BF posting
>heh....it was just irony...totally...
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>>169353518
>it's discordshit because I don't recognize the name of the artist
It's not my fault you don't know them, but it is your fault for screeching like a retard
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>>169353518
>not knowing a shit drawfag
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>>169353501
King's Field and Dark Souls can't be part of the same continuity. The metaphysical aspects of the world are not compatible with one another.

Even if Dark Souls 2 throws some very interesting references to it.
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>>169353636
nice damage control
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>>169353695
Nice damage control.
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Ds2. Zweihander or BKUGS? I'm torn, help me decide.
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>>169353818
Uninstall shit game
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return to lords of the fallen when ???
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>>169353818
Zweihander unless you're facing stuff with a vulnerability to fire, then use BKUGS.
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>>169353524
now that you guys have someone else to autistic screech over

am i allowed back yet
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>>169353901
No.
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>fighting guy in wacky retarded armor who nonetheless is miles better than you at the game
nothing pisses me off more
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>>169353901
>Ley
You'll never be allowed anywhere, just stay gone.
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>Vaati is Australian

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP
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>>169353901
I don't b& people from my FCs, but I can't do anything about people not wanting to fight you.
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>>169354134
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>>169354078
>>169353979
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>>169353901
just make a new character with a different name, dude
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>>169354138
>>169354305
it was a joke, don't worry
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Why are curved greatswords so shit in dark souls?
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>>169353892
Is split damage that bad in Ds2?
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>>169353012
>Ignoring that "child of dark" is literally never used other than to describe a fragment of Manus.
>Ignoring Alsanna the silent oracle is the size of a normal human.
>Ignoring that being a witch and a fragment of Manus is not a mutually exclusive concept.
>Ignoring that being a heretic and a fragment of Manus is not a mutually exclusive concept. If anything they could be mutually inclusive.
>Ignore that his corpse is in the same room as half a dozen jailors who would have a reason to kill someone trying to bust out a child of dark.

Dark edge is the only leg you have. But other than that all roads lead to Manus fragment.
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>>169354392
Because the very idea of a curved greatsword is fucking stupid
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are you guys brawling with a password or is there an FC going on?
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>>169354467
No, it's actually probably has the best split damage in the series if you apply a buff over an infused weapon with base elemental damage.
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is the dlc season pass worth it? just realized I had $25 leftover in my account.
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Anyone want to clear this whole area with me? On PC.

>>169354557
FC finished.
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>>169354654
We won't know for sure until march 28th rolls around
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>>169354032
What would you consider retarded armor? Something like Smough set?
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>>169354725
Post the front of your character and I'll consider it
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>>169354764
that and stuff like onion helmet just mixed together randomly with evangelist chest or whatever to look as dumb as possible
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>>169354775

Decide quick. These lizards are in need of purging.
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>>169354764
smough leggings, dragon head, archdeacon robes, whatever gloves you like
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what was DS2 about?
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>>169354948
No
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>>169354998
Finding a way to free yourself of the curse and learning about the futility of your actions.
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>>169354725
Depends, what SL are you? And are you going to go for Nameless King afterward?
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>>169353323
>le Dark Souls of Zelda
No, fuck off.
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>>169354998
Mostly about a random country far removed from the center of events that were taking place in the world trying to deal with their own crisis as the rising Undead Curse swallowed everything.

It tries to make itself as ambiguous as possible on wether or not it was a far future of Lordran, until Dark Souls 3 came and decided that it wasn't.
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>>169354591
Key word being "if," I assume.
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>>169354998
>"you'll lose your souls.. over and over again"
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>>169355242

89 and yes.
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Aleksandra I love you
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I'm the only one who miss the ridiculous damage that you could do in hyper mode on both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1?
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>>169355290
Usually they're good enough without it but with a buff overtop of all that the damage is mad great.
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>>169353323
Skyward Sword also had parrying and stamina management. It was awful.
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>>169355384
i have a boyfriend </3
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were there bonfire placements more egregious than these in the series ?
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>>169355384

>>169355474
it's almost as if you want to force me into tripfaggotry
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How hard is AoA in NG+? I would like to start it on my preferred char but not too keen on dying to bullshit over and over.
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>>169354483
>>Ignoring Alsanna the silent oracle is the size of a normal human.

Except in this exact case.

>>wahh there can't be a first time for anything

>>Ignoring Alsanna the silent oracle is the size of a normal human.

She's as big as the lanky milfanito, and the lanky milfanito is tall as fuck. You have been fooled by the simple illusion of "she's not standing upright", which is an incredible thing to be fooled by.

>>Ignoring that being a witch and a fragment of Manus is not a mutually exclusive concept.

It wouldn't be heretical for a dark fragment of manus to use dark spells. A witch is heretical by nature, both in DS and in real life.

>>Ignoring that being a heretic and a fragment of Manus is not a mutually exclusive concept. If anything they could be mutually inclusive.

literally what

>>Ignore that his corpse is in the same room as half a dozen jailors who would have a reason to kill someone trying to bust out a child of dark.

Do you remember where Alva is from? Do you remember his story? What, Alva just turned around and fucked a fragment of Manus instead of Zullie despite 2 games of descriptions saying otherwise?

If you want to believe Zullie and Beatrice were fragments of manus and that dicking a shard of manus and that garners an entirely new shard of manus (wewlad), that's one thing. Because of the nashandra painting, people to this day think that Dusk has something to do with the fragments of manus, and because of the Beatrice staff/Witchtree descriptions, redditors have somehow come to the conclusion that the entire witch family line are descendants of manus, so you have ground to stand on (even if its reddit ground).

But if you're honestly telling me that Karla herself is a fragment of manus and has been the whole time and Alva and Zullie aren't her parents after Alva's body placement and the Dark Edge, you literally cannot be saved.
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>>169355593
woops

i mean the bonfires 4 seconds walk away from each other at dragonslayer and grand archives
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>>169355702
Outside of bosses any difficulty you might face will be up to whether or not you decide to actually fight milwood/corvian knights.
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Vaati is /notourguy/
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>>169355771
>>169355593
The bonfire placement from Dark Souls III is mostly fine, not as good as Dark Souls I, but not as bad as II. The one you pointed out is pretty weird.
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>>169355702
the only hard parts of AoA are that one spot with two corvian knights (that you can bait to fight one at a time) and that one spot with a shitload of milwood knights being overlooked by two milwood archers
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>>169355771
The only reason this exists is because Das3 gives you a bonfire for every boss you kill
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>>169352789
Show me where all the painter art is
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>>169355771
Shortcuts and Bonfires in Lothric are kind of fucked in general.
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>>169353143
You got it backwards guy. The small brain is supposed to be the most sensible and the exploding brain is supposed to be the worst.
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>>169355886
them also putting a key on the ground directly in front of the door that it opens is also pretty weird
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>>169354998
Alzheimer, sins and cycles
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>>169356126
That's because it was a half-assed method of gating the archives from you before the other LoC are dead. The body isn't there if you kill the dancer/armor early.
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>>169355603
nice try impersonating me
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>>169356290
didn't know that, so an early dancer kill is really only just for castle and untended graves? this game is even more linear than I thought
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Who /return to sorcery/ here?
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>>169356396
/pyrocleric/ here
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>>169356396
That's what I plan to do, but I'm struggling with creating a female character face because I've never done in before in DaS2.
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>>169355886
is this a meme?
Bonfires in 3 are about 30 seconds apart max. I think the largest run is the Cathedral of the Deep, but you've got that shortcut that circumvents the graveyard.

I dunno if 2 is just the slower game but you could remove over a quarter of the bonfires in 3 and be no worse for it, especially considering the weird ass boss bonfires.

I remember there being something about making your own bonfires a long time ago.... I think this may have been the intended mechanic with boss bonfires but they gave up.
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>>169356290
Which is stupid. Why not let you get in to archives early? This game needs more options in progression, not less.
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>>169356374
Nigga the castle and the archives are on the exact same path
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>>169356374
>Linear
Well, it's as liner as Demon's Souls, you can do things in any order you want, but it doesn't affect the end result that much.
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>>169355703
How can you not connect the idea that a living embodiment of what was once one of the greatest threats in the fucking world wouldn't be considered heretical by its mere existence? Think of this in real life, in say the days of the Spanish inquisition, if a broken of fragment of Beelzebub stood up one day and was its own demon/person, would that being not be considering a blasphemous, heretical abomination? Same principle applies here, Karla by her mere existence would be considered a heretic. How can you not put two and two together.

There's been an argument that Karla is literally just Zullie countless years later, having changed her name. If you want Occam's razor, that's the one that makes the most sense. Why the fuck would Fromsoft use a title like "child of dark" to describe something it has never been used to describe before?

Alva's corpse was found in the room with half a dozen jailors outside of Karla's cell, presumably he was there to snatch her but the jailors got to him. That's it. He found his lost love but failed just short of his goal. Karla is a fragment of Manus, which does not prevent her from being a witch and a heretic.
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>hawkwood sits with you at the dragon mountain

What a guy.
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Guys do I NEED to go to Shrine of Amana? I seriously don't want go there again.
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>>169356374
Yeah, having teleportation at the start meant that they didn't need to program in ways to get to areas from other areas. That said having teleportation from the start is very nice in my opinion since we all had moments of accidently resting in ash lake and having to make the trek up.
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>>169356374
Also theoretically for ADP, but to get there you would also need to progress to Irithyll Dungeon, and that requires you to beat about half the game.
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I did some testing. Turns out RSS downscaling works differently than WSS downscaling. 120s don't get downscaled after 84, not 100. Ideal FC host level is 84.
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>>169356491
Random random pink my man
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>>169356726
approved by your resident dart shitter
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>>169356495
2 has bonfire with very little spacing, mostly because how durability works. Without taking durability into account, many levels, such as FotFG, bastille or earthen peak use too many bonfires
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>>169356676
You know they could have just had one way teleportion at the end of dead ends.

Honestly, teleporting shouldn't exist. The games are all better without it, even DaS1.
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>>169356482
Is pyro any good?
Doesn't it have weird scaling?
Ds1 and 3 I loved it never tried 2, so it scales off the highest between into and faith? Not both together like 3?
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>>169356663
Why do people hate it so much anyway? It's a perfectly fine area, certainly no worse than say, Farron Keep or Tomb of Giants
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>>169356894
keep both at the same level and it'll scale with both
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>>169356495
>Bonfires in 3 are about 30 seconds apart max.
Nope, they aren't, many times there's only one bonfire in the entire area and the game only lets you have a easier time getting to the boss through shortcuts, Lothric Castle being a good example, there's only one bonfire in the entire area.

>especially considering the weird ass boss bonfires.
The boss bonfires don't even make that much difference anyway
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>>169356950
If you're not answering my question, then don't quote me.
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>>169356676
I've never fully understood all the complaints about bonfire warping. Not having that feature just makes the entire game significantly more tedious, and is a sin in game design these days. If you want to be forced to explore a world, go play some indie game or something.
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>>169357040
>>169356663
Like this?
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>>169356495
>>169356495
>Lothric Castle
I mean the bonfire before Lothric Prince
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>>169356894
All fire and dark damage scales off of one stat, whichever one is lower between int and faith, meaning you have to keep them the same
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>>169356994
>lothric castle
>beat dancer
>bonfire
>get past 4 or so enemies
>bonfire
>get past half a dozen of cannon fodder enemies
>bonfire
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>>169357040
If you're going to ask a pointless question like a fucking retard, then don't whine about the answers you get.
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>>169356627
different anon but while I agree that Karla is a witch, and a heretic, and a shard of Manus, there is very little that links her to Zulie aside from Alva. Furthermore Alva in DS3's armor says that it was modeled after OG Alva's, not that it is OG Alva (thought that is a possibility). So the combination of no clear indication of the process that makes a Manus shard and no clear indication of who the seeker of the spurned was (item descriptions make it seem as though the spurned in his name and weapon were a group of people not a person), prevent any kind of ending to be made along this story strand aside from Myazaki's usual maybe...or perhaps
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>>169356994
>many times
>cotd and archives are many times
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>>169357118
But the enemies are super hard, dude. They can block and everything.
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>>169357118
Like I said, I meant the bonfire before archives and lothric prince, the entire area is fucking huge and there's only one bonfire in it.
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>>169356950
It is a completely shit area. Hell, you can be getting sniped by enemies across the map that aren't even spawned in yet.
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>>169357118
You forgot:
>warp to Vordt
>bonfire
>go past a few cannon fodder enemies
>beat dancer
>bonfire
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It's been a while since I've played, what's the most fun starting class in your opinion, guys?
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>>169357409
Pyromancer
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>>169357190
>>169356627
>kill her
>no boss soul


woooooooow

also hey

>If you want Occam's razor

I don't know what your highschool freshman class taught you but that is not what occam's razor is or means
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>>169357046
Not having it is one of the reasons that DS1 has the most organic and creative level design in some of its locations and it was pretty cool to open a door and find yourself in a completely different route than before. In DS3 levels are expansive but don't really connect kind of like DeS where each level had its own shortcuts and paths instead of the entire game having shortcuts and pathways within a level and also between levels like DS1.
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>>169357229
There's only two bonfires in High wall, not counting boss bonfires, and that area is as large as Lost Bastile, which has five if I'm not mistaken. Only three in Cathedral of the Deep and again, that area is even bigger than Lost Bastile. Only two in Irithyll Dungeon and like you said, archives as well.
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https://discord.gg/8mt778b

Overwatch, Rainbow six etc. discord chat
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>>169357460
t-thanks, I guess...
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>>169357046
>More tedious
It makes the world more memorable and organic, I can remember every piece of texture from each area in Dark Souls, whereas most areas in 2 were just forgettable to me, you can that's because their poor level design, but it goes further than that.

it's a sin in game design these days because everything got more casualized and trivial as time went on and it's a pity that this affects even Souls games.
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HOW TO MAKE DS3 LORE
>place random callbacks in nonsensical places
>write meaningless bullshit in the descriptions
>let the "LOREMASTERS" make it up for you
It's brilliant, really
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>>169357557
I feel like counting the Rosaria and the Deacon bonfires are kind of cheating.
Rosaria is there for quality of life improvement, it's an out of the way area completely detached from normal gameplay progression. Deacons of the Deep is basically the "you've beaten the area, now come back to the Shrine" bonfire.

Really, the cathedral only has one bonfire of relevance when you're playing through it.

Honestly, even with all this complaining about "there's too many bonfires!" I am yet to see someone make a case as for why deleting boss bonfires would improve the game in any way, when they serve no purpose other than save you time.

Like the Wolnir bonfire, directly followed by the two first bonfires of Irithyll. Yes, they're unecessary. But in what way do they make the game WORSE? It's not like they break up two sections of gameplay and combat that would work better if they were together. They literally do nothing but allow you to allow you to get through an empty tunnel and bridge faster.
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>>169357889
Dark Souls lore was always vague and cryptic
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>>169357889
Listen, every second not wasted on lore is a second spent modeling the most aesthetic and qt feet in video games. I for one am glad that Myazaki has good priorities.
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>>169356950
Its better in sotfs/patched now, used to be cancer speels sniping you
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>Friede
>3 boss fights in a row
I want to rip this cunt's throat out.
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>>169358142
>sends so much time modeling feet a lot of armor sets look either shit or downright unfinished
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>>169357992
LOL
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>>169357984
Boss bonfires are also convenient for putting down Sunbro signs really fast, instead of having to trek through a level yourself before putting it down.
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>>169357557
But then you have other levels fucked up with bonfires.

Tower on the wall has no reason to exist.
Settlement has one bonfire when you arrive and then another 10 seconds later,
Road of sacrifices has ones past the elevator, another just past a few corvians, then ones more in the middle of the swamp because reasons, when the farron keep ones is just a few seconds away. Then the keep has two bonfires in the middle, when the non covenant one should be removed as it's redundant.
Farron keep perimeter is a huge offender: it's right next to a good shortcut back to read of sacrifices, a shortcut never used because you just warp to it.
CotD has one bonfire between sage's with only a few saw enemies for no reason
Irithyll has that wolnir-irithyll-central irithyll bonfire combo with a single miniboss between them.
Church of yorshka is located after a very small gauntlet.
Dragon barracks is one of the worst bonfires in the game since it breaks invasions in the area (invaders that spawn in the middle of it have no way to guide themselves to the host) it's also after only a few cannon fodder enemies.
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>>169353501

Bloodborne and demon's souls are same universe, however not same story. Dark souls is unique. Kings field may be related to demon's, but no proofs.
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Is dark/hex still strong in ds2 or has it been needed as hard as they say
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>>169357984
I left the Deacons and every boss bonfire out since they don't make any difference in the overall level design of the game. I counted the Rosaria one, but agree with you.

And as for what you said, like many things in Dark Souls III, it gets needless hate for no reason. I don't know why people complain about that game so much, it's perhaps the Souls game with the best boss battles, level design and atmosphere, its only drawback are that the story and lore leans to much on Dark Souls 1.
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>>169358305
>Covering your feet
Listen dude you may want a different game series. Go play Skyrim or COD because you sound a bit to casual.
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>169358384
>Tower on the wall has no reason to exist.
Stopped reading there. The game doesn't exist to cater to the 125th time play through speedrunners.
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>playing through the series for the first time
>decided to finally give pvp a serious attempt on ds3
>obtained red eye orb; invading constantly
>everyone spams estus + has allies

does feel good to win 2/3v1's though
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>>169358384
>>169358606
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>>169358385

>Bloodborne and demon's souls are same universe

What? Nothing in BB even implies that it took place in the same universe DeS did.
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>>169358892
Umbasa
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>>169358384
>Tower on the wall has no reason to exist.
Its the first level anon and this is some people's first souls game I'd say a little leeway is fine.
>CotD has one bonfire between sage's with only a few saw enemies for no reason
the first is right after a hard encounter and the second is right next to what will be a lot of players first time fighting NPC's.
>Irithyll has that wolnir-irithyll-central irithyll bonfire combo with a single miniboss between them.
They are split so that if someone goes there without the doll they won't have to go through the catacombs again.
Anon the only bad ones you listed were the Farron keep ones and the amount is probably so on people's first play through if they got lost looking for the torches to put out they could start from a couple of different areas.
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>>169358954

...Which was cut.
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>>169353681
>Tree is Vallad
>two figures to the side of it represent Seath and Guyra, who it made to govern Valicia in his stead

Neato

I still wonder what that thing was meant for though.
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Redpill me on Lothric knight greatsword
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>>169358892
In the early versions, Gascoigne said Umbasa during his fight. Otherwise, there's nothing
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>>169358384
>Settlement has one bonfire when you arrive and then another 10 seconds later,
It doesn't really matter because the bonfire placement in both Settlement and High wall are good, you could say that the second bonfire is kind of pointless, but it has no real effect in the overall level design of the area, which is good and makes each death count because the bonfire is very far apart from some places that you can die in that area.

>Road of sacrifices
I'll admit that Road of Sacrifices has too many bonfires, even though that area is really big it didn't need that many.

>CotD has one bonfire between sage's with only a few saw enemies for no reason
I don't really understand this complaint, you mean Cleansing Chapel? It's basically the first bonfire in the area, so again, it doesn't affect the level design and overall feel of your deaths there.

>Irithyll has that wolnir-irithyll-central irithyll bonfire combo with a single miniboss between them.
Same as before, the bonfire may be pointless, but it doesn't have much effect in the area because you are just starting it.

>Church of yorshka is located after a very small gauntlet.
Agree with you here, even though I find the bonfire placement in Irithyll mostly good.
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>>169359108

I know about that, but it seems more like a reference or an easter egg considering they didn't actually do anything with it.
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>>169359083
>It's big
>it hits like a truck
>if you buff it with SLB and/or sacred oath it hits like two trucks welded to the front of a freight train
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>>169359156
It was also removed. That's all there is to establish a link, it's safe to say that Souls and BB are in different universes
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>>169359083
Its like Astora GS for people who like girls.
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>>169359127
Church of Yorshka is kind of necessary desu, I mean there's 5-6 Pontiff Knights, 2 Fire witches and 5-6 invisihollows between Central Irithyll and it, which isn't much getting to the bonfire itself but when you consider that this is the bonfire you'll be using for going down into the water and up the back area to unlock the gate to Pontiff, as well as the bonfire you'll be using for Pontiff himself, adding on those extra guys to every run would be a major pain.
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>>169358384
>Tower on the wall has no reason to exist.
Nonsense. It's a perfectly fine bonfire.
>Settlement has one bonfire when you arrive and then another 10 seconds later.
Fine, but that's a problem with the first bonfire, not the second one. It's just there so people who die to the dogs don't have to spawn at the Wall again and go through another loading screen and cutscene.
>Road of sacrifices has ones past the elevator, another just past a few corvians
It's a significant sequence of gameplay.
>Then ones more in the middle of the swamp because reasons,
A bridge between multiple sequences of gameplay, plus a fork where you can go in multiple directions
>When the farron keep ones is just a few seconds away.
Removes padding travel time after the non-respawning enemies at the keep's entrance are dead
>Then the keep has two bonfires in the middle, when the non covenant one should be removed as it's redundant.
Maybe, but these two bonfires serve different purposes. One is for level progression, one is for covenant business. They don't break up any gameplay
>Farron keep perimeter is a huge offender: it's right next to a good shortcut back to read of sacrifices, a shortcut never used because you just warp to it.
HAH. Good shortcut? Perimeter is the "boss attempt" bonfire, it needs to be close to the boss fog room. Abyss Watchers bonfire being back in Halfway Fortress would be bad design.
>Irithyll has that wolnir-irithyll-central irithyll bonfire combo with a single miniboss between them.
Please refer to >>169357984
>Church of yorshka is located after a very small gauntlet.
A very small gauntlet with enemies that hit like the devil and where any mistake kills you? Pontiff knights are very dangerous, it's not like back in AotA where you can cross all of Oolacile killing dozens of bloatheads without them laying a finger on you.
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>>169358606
Look at DaS's areas: in blighttown you need to climb down all the way until you can get a bonfire again.
Sen's has you go through many traps and snake encounters before you can get the bonfire.
Depths bonfire is only opened once you beat a big chunk of the level.
Anor londo has its second bonfire after the archers and demons, you also need to activate a shortcut for it.
These are good placements.
For comparison, if it was remade thinking like they did in 3, it'd have a bonfire right when you're dropped, because god forbid a player dies to a single sentinel that won't even aggro if they just walk by, then darkmoon's one would be moved upwards near the shortcut, invalidating why it exists.

>>169359021
The only thing that exists between CotD first bonfire and sage's are a few saw hollows and an evangelist, the NPCs and the dogs are both after it. If it was removed, nothing of value would've been lost and the FK NPC would be important at teaching players to not always go to optional paths with strong enemies. As it is now, they get a free bonfire right near him to keep trying as long as they need and he won't respawn. That'd be like placing a bonfire right near the first black knight in 1.

The crux woods bonfires and castle ones are also pretty bad, and as I said, they make the level design worse by invalidating a shortcut you only ever open once, for instance. The doll thing is an excuse, I suppose, but I'd much rather have them remove wolnir's bonfire.
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>>169359758
Dark Souls 1 has the best bonfire placement in the series, no one will argue that will you. However, the placement in 3 is mostly fine, certainly better than in Dark Souls II, which has five bonfires even in areas that are extremely small and only have corridors, such as Drangleic Castle.
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WORDS WORDS WORDS BONFIRE WORDS WORDS
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>>169360219
Wow, so this the power of shitposting.
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>>169358391
*nerfed
Seems like it needs a whole lot of stat investment for not a huge return
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>>169360068
>Dark Souls 1 has the best bonfire placement in the series, no one will argue that will you.
Dark Souls 1 does some very obtuse things with its bonfires, like needlessly limiting which ones you can or cannot warp to, and having pointlessly long walkbacks to many boss arenas. Of particular note is the progression through the Kiln of the First Flame, probably the longest walkback in the entire franchise. Or the walkback to Sif, or heavens forbid if you for ANY reason want to do some smithing with Vamos, because you're going to be walking for a while. The Painted World bonfire also retaining its one-way status even after you leave it for the first time is also quite unecessary.

Bottom line is, as godly as the level design is, it isn't godly enough to account for the "atmospheric" limitations they were aiming for, and just becomes grating on subsequent playthroughs. The fact that they have mostly done away with boss fights without any nearby bonfires at the fog door is a good thing.
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>>169358892

-umbasa
-both games take place within lovecraftian universe. DeS is more subtle about it and requires pre-knowledge of things like the king in yellow and azathoth
-blatant similarities between the old one and rom, both in entrance and design
-ailing loran
-drastic similarities between the maiden in black and pthumerians, as well as her usage of eye coverings.

Off the top of my head

Bloodborne is not a SEQUEL to demon's souls, but they exist disconnected within the same world at different periods of time.
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Goddammit, this blob will just have to do.

Sure was nice to have a spell to kill the hungry hitbox hippo with though.
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Opinions on the standard Scythe in DS1? The one from the tar pits in Sen's.
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Anyway to make DaS2 SotfS less washed out looking? Some areas look way too high contrast.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12412976

http://www.strawpoll.me/12412976

http://www.strawpoll.me/12412976

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12412976

http://www.strawpoll.me/12412976
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>>169360650
>-umbasa
Cut from BB
>-both games take place within lovecraftian universe. DeS is more subtle about it and requires pre-knowledge of things like the king in yellow and azathoth
All because Myazaki used similar inspirations doesn't make them the same universe. All soulsborne games reference Berzerk
>-blatant similarities between the old one and rom, both in entrance and design
Ones a giant tree thing and one is a spider. Only similarity is that they are both on lakes
>-ailing loran
I am not sure where you are going with this
>-drastic similarities between the maiden in black and pthumerians, as well as her usage of eye coverings.
The Pthumerians don't cover their eyes, also the MiB is made from stone and looks nothing like the Pthumerians
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>Dingy Set only available in NG+
>already used an ascetic
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How to beat abyss demon? I'm stuck in tutorial zone and he pops up everytime i try to rush toward the door.
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>>169361357
>abyss demon

u wot m8
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>>169360507
>and having pointlessly long walkbacks to many boss arenas
Nothing wrong with that though, death is supposed to have weight in Souls games and If the walk back to the bosses was instantaneous you would feel no weight or real regret in dying or making a mistake. Long walks make you rethink your strategy and your mistakes and make you more careful around the boss next time, which is the whole point of bonfires, making your death something actually bothersome and not just something you can reload exactly where you died.

>Kiln of the First Flame
Atmosphere. And the two cats walk is longer btw

>Or the walkback to Sif
Nothing wrong with this one, what I said above applies.

>The Painted World
This is where you lose all credibility. The bonfire in painted world is probably the most elegant one in the entire franchise. Instead of putting bonfires throughout the entire area they made you open up the place through shortcuts and gates that were close at the beginning and in the end, the area only needed one bonfire. After opening the first gate the fog gate where Priscilla lies is hardly distant and you can easily get there in a matter of a minute running through the enemies.
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>>169361357
Plunging attack
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>>169361357
>abyss demon
Do you mean Asylum Demon?
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>>169361429
Sorry i rage quited the game, by the 5th death, didn't pay attention to name. *Asylum demon* /v/ told me this game was easy...
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>>169361357
You just reminded me of that video by that super autistic guy ranting about the asylum in DS1 but I can't find it anymore.
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>>169361032
Probably one of the best dex weapons, can deal up to 750 dmg at +15 with each hit if you are using power within, probably up to 1200 with darkmoon blade.
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>>169361534
You should pay attention to the messages on the ground, when you enter his area you'll see one on the left telling to to run or something like that and leading you to an open cell door. You're not meant to fight him until you go through the rest of the level and get your gear.

>>169361572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8OjoOT8Tg
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>>169361357
Is this falseflag? You mean the first time he appears, or the second? If the former, you just need to rush towards the door at the left, the torches and the fact that you're using nothing but a broken sword should be enough of a hint that you're supposed to run, not fight.
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>>169361720
Thanks, that video is a real gem.
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>>169358384
>Tower on the Wall
Early game it's a godsend, at least at first when you're a beginner, because of how hard the Lothric Knight wails on you when you first arrive.

It's also useful because it navigates the latter half of High Wall before you get the shortcut that brings you back to the first bonfire.
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>>169361032
>Fast
>Long range
>Good moveset
>Insane damage at +15
>Can be buffed
It's the best dex weapon for PvE, also pretty good for pvp.
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>>169361432
I would much rather have death mean a gradual and ever increasing reduction of my HP pool, like II does, than have it mean "welp, guess you have to spend 3 or 4 minutes fighting/running through these sequences of levels that offer you no meaningful challenge but serve only to pad time until you can try the boss again". Forcing the player to waste his time with no other drawbacks is not an adequate punishment.

Also, i'm not claiming that there's anything wrong with the painted world bonfire as you're progressing through the area. The area is very well structured. But after you are done with it but want to visit it again for whatever reason, the fact that the only way to leave is is to make the long run through the bridge, then out the painting, then through the long cathedral, then up the rotating tower while maybe even having to wait for it to rotate again [maybe. I'm not sure on this last part] adds nothing to the experience nor atmosphere of the game when compared to the possibility of the game simply "unlocking" warp from that bonfire since you've already proven that you've bested its challenges once.
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DaS3 has good bonfire placement but also trivial decisions like Wolnir's > Pre Bridge at Irithyll and Dragonslayer Armor > Front of Archives

IIRC there's a few other instances of that too, and while not harmful, it's questionable
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>>169361043
Turn brightness all the way down.
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>>169361720
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8OjoOT8Tg
>OPINIONS
>This is a European game
>Lemme tell you
Jesus I forgot all about this video but I'm glad you posted it.
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>>169356627
>There's been an argument that Karla is literally just Zullie countless years later, having changed her name. If you want Occam's razor, that's the one that makes the most sense. Why the fuck would Fromsoft use a title like "child of dark" to describe something it has never been used to describe before?


I felt my autism permanently increase from reading this.

>Alva's corpse was found in the room with half a dozen jailors outside of Karla's cell, presumably he was there to snatch her but the jailors got to him. That's it. He found his lost love but failed just short of his goal.

>Passed from mother to daughter, this blade was intended for both protection and as a means of taking one's own life. The young girl never swung it more than once.

Who's mom?

But no, it's clearly Zullie who's gone through an arbitrary name change.

The fucking mental gymnastics for this shit.
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>all these hexfags
why?
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>get to SL150
>see that I need to up my VIT a few more times so I can stop fatrolling
FUCK
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>>169353390
>implying
Herald is boring as fuck and took all of her interesting aspects from Maiden.
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>>169361936
>I would much rather have death mean a gradual and ever increasing reduction of my HP pool
Why not both things? I agree that what they did with the hp reduction in 2 was a good thing, but the bonfire placement was trash because you could easily get back to where you died in a matter of seconds, which is something that goes against everything that Souls games are about. Ever since the series's conception having long walks back to where you died was one of points of having bonfires and even archstones in the case of Demon's, instead of just quick save/quick load, as that forced players to actually take their life seriously, because they for damn sure wouldn't want to go back all the way from where the first bonfire was.
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>>169362624
*Firekeeper
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>>169362616
take off havel's you fag
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>>169357409
Swordsman.
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>>169361231
>also the MiB is made from stone
what in the fuck are you talking about
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>>169361936
>I would much rather have death mean a gradual and ever increasing reduction of my HP pool, like II does
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>169354998
bad game design
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Dear DSG, what is "twinking"? Im meming around and invading people with a fire barbed sword but im not sure if im giving them a fair chance to fight back.
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>>169362669
The problem is, that the general rule about bonfire placement and actually allowing them to serve as meaningful milestones of your progress through the world, with the challenging treks between them making the reward of unlocking shortcuts all the more valuable, becomes warped when you introduce bosses into the equation. Bosses are, by their very nature, challenges all of their own, typically the greatest that a level has to offer, only of a different nature than level progression. As a result, I feel that by design that always warrants the existence of a nearby "boss" bonfire, or at least an incredibly efficient shortcut, so as to not excessively punish players that are struggling with the boss fight by piling on them something that translates into little more than a timer.

Really, as someone who has struggled for a long time against bosses like Sulyvahn, Fume Knight, Ornstein and Smough and Gwyn, to the point where many times they would pretty much just oneshot me within ten to twenty seconds of starting the fight, it's hard to overstate how welcome the bonfire placement of the first three was, as opposed to how hellish the last one was to experience. To the point where it actually completely shattered the atmosphere for me, not because it was hard, but because I realized "I HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY BACK THERE -AGAIN-?" over and over and over.

And before cries of git gud start piling up, consider that there's a reason why shortcuts and multiple bonfires within the same area exist. Very few people would draw enjoyment from starting at the Darkmoon Knightess bonfire and having to cross the painting guardian rafters, the archer buttress, and the spiral staircases of Anor Londo every time they tried to fight O&S. There IS such a thing as being excessively harsh, to the point of detracting from the enjoyment of the game.
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Hexes are so fucking cheesy. I remember getting to the last rank of the pvp covenant in Dark Souls III with a pure mage build by only using affinity, dark resonant soul, darkstorm and dark dance.
>Cast Affinity
>Know that opponent you will roll towards me to avoid affinity, so I immediately cast darkstorm
>8 out of 10 times, he eats the darkstorm and gets knocked back, even if he doesn't he will hardly punish you
>Recast Affinity while he's on the ground and spam resonant soul when he wakes up
>If he tries to get close to you again, just cast dark dance, It's almost impossible to punish, always makes the guy keep his distance and always hit at least some orbs
I almost never lost using that build and It was basically a RP build.
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>>169363787
Dark Souls II*
I'm referring to the arena in the blood covenant.
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>>169362536
because darkness is so cool :)
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>>169363706
Dark Souls based its bosses around the assumption you'd have run through some of your resources getting there, and if you wanted to summon for them, you had to keep your Humanity the entire way. They're easier to compensate.

Gwyn's was just a joke though. It's a fucking giant area with four enemies you can run right past. There was no reason to make that brutal walking treadmill be the final bit of the game.
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>>169364037
Is it effective though
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>>169363706
I agree with you to an extent, but really, the only bosses in Dark Souls I that have really long walks to them are Gwyn, 4 Kings and maybe Sif, but I don't find much of a problem in Sif's case because the battle isn't really that hard. The rest of the bosses have walks that are long enough to make you feel the weight of death, but not long enough to be extremely tedious.

Also on a side note, your position about this makes me think that you must hate Demon's Souls, since that game doesn't have bonfires and you have to actually go run through the entire level to get to the boss if you die.
>>169364101
Although I also find the distance excessive in Gywn's case, that long walk is there only for atmosphere reasons.
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Any tips for playing Souls games with keyboard and mouse?
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>going for Ring of the Living with only 15 END
Please pray for me, guys.
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>>169357857
What this guy said, it made the game much more enjoyable being able to run from one zone to another and all the shortcuts connecting everything, amazing.

I started with 2 and then 3 and then i played 1, I cant understand why they didnt keep in the no warping at the start, just made them lazy with connecting up zones.
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How early do you get hexes in ds2?
Started a sorc yesterday because wanted to use blue flame but I've been changing my mind, jiust dont wanna spend 7 hours with a mace and no spells, feels like that with lightning builds
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>>169364478
>tfw CE
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>>169364730
Isn't DS2 super ban-happy about that kind of stuff or is there really very little risk?
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what the fuck do i infuse das2 mlgs with
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>>169364890
Enchanted
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>>169364607
Straid sells it, you can find him at the lost bastile, which is right after the Persuer or the goonies level. There's also the guy that you find at the forest after shading woods, but you have to complete his questline to buy his Hexes.

You can find most hexes scattered throughout the game, just look at the Wiki.
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>tfw you push a hacker off the ledges in anor londo
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>>169364398
4Kings is weird because the fast walkback to it is more like a sequence break than an actual shortcut. If I recall correctly it involves just jumping off the aqueduct bridge into a watery area below, with no indication or "unlocking" necessary for that.
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I want to get to the heirs of the sun as soon as possible how do I stay low level but also manage to get all the way to the windmill so I can help people with all the bosses?
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>>169365283
Rush to the Bastille/Straid ASAP and buy agape ring from him, use it as you see fit to avoid inflating your SM as you progress.
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>>169365283
Run through literally everything?
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>>169365283
I've only played through the game once months ago so I don't remember paths for shit but I remember getting to harvest valley pretty easily.

If I didn't have to get my boyfriend to wake up and family share the game I would work on a character right now and make a desert sorceress garb wearing paladin.
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>>169365283
All you REALLY need to put points in is ADP, at least enough to get 95 AGI or so

And get agape ring ASAP
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>>169365115
>If I recall correctly it involves just jumping off the aqueduct bridge into a watery area below, with no indication or "unlocking" necessary for that.
It actually becomes a shortcut ever since you remove the water from the city, it's a shortcut in the same way that falling in the platforms from the catacombs, Tomb of the Giants or Blighttown to get where you want faster are considered shortcuts. The walk is still really long anyway because there's no bonfire in New Londo and you need to take that long ass elevator from Firelink shrine and go all the way since the beginning of the level until the boss.
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>he doesn't use rob flynn leo espada ropera

only viable way to play DaS2
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>Frigid Outskirts
Nah, I'm not going through this fucking abomination again for a ring I'll use for a few fucking days. Who the absolute F U C K greenlit this area? I want them fucking castrated. I want their fucking daughters raped and lynched. I want their house burned to the fucking ground. I want to eat their fucking hearts as they watch.
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>>169365827
Frigid Outskirts is a pretty atmospheric area, which is more than I can say about most of Dark Souls II
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>Woah this demon sure hits harder than the one that I fought with Onionbro
>He falls down a ledge and skeletons gangbang him to death
Thanks Nito
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>>169366107
I keep trying to get him and the mimic to fight but the mimic always gets btfo in practically one hit
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this still work in SOTFS?

http://www.leviathyn.com/2015/02/22/how-to-become-an-early-game-dark-souls-2-hexer-in-10-minutes/
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>>169365827
Carry a shield.

Summon the AI phantoms.

There, now you can walk through the snowstorms zero problem.
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Instant invades at heides this event... i love it, wrecked about 30 normies games in the past 20 mins.
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>>169365827
It would probably be my favorite area in DS2 if the rapehorses were toned down a bit in regards to their health pools or damage output.

Although I think the span of time where the blizzard has cleared should be at least 30 seconds longer.
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>>169362669
>agrees that hp reduction in 2 was a good thing
>complains about bonfire placement
hp reduction is worse
it was literally punishment for failure when learning from your mistakes and trying again is what its all about
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>all those cucks asking retarded questions about the easiest fucking souls game

go play hello kitty online faggots
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>>169366364
How did you get your cracked eye orbs? Farming them?
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>>169366364
A few of them have taken to suicide, might see whats poppin off at belfry
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>>169366438
It's probably because it's their first Souls, but that makes me question why they aren't playing 1 first.
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>>169365827
Get a weapon that can pancake, it makes Rudolph the Asshole Reindeer a pushover
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does monastery scim still have those op parry frames or not
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>>169366472
Those Old Knights drop Blue Cracked, it's really easy to farm them. Just put on Agape and CoC, and you have an infinite supply.
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So how bad was shrine of amana prepatch? what kinds of things did they change? Also i heard they changed dragon aerie as well
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>>169366686
no
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>>169353275
>Excuses to draw porn are now considered headcanon.

Boy, you're a special kind of whiny retard, aren't you. Why do you even give a fuck? it's just porn.
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>>169366906
Shrine of Amana was hellishly hard on release, the sorceresses that pelt you with homing soul arrows could do so from beyond your visual range so you'd be getting hit from enemies you can't even see yet

The last stretch right before Semen of Dong was basically a bullet hell
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>>169355276
Drangleic was built over Vinheim though. The Undead only went to Drangleic because the Kiln happened to be there.
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>>169366492
Aw found my first either hacker or laggy ass motherfucker, he didnt take no damage and lagged all over the fucking place.
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>>169367480
espada ropera is better than rapier in every way faggot
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Do you ever feel bad for blues, /dsg/?
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Talk to me about katanas, I almost beat DS1 on my first run using a katana. Should I fight the lost sinner with a bofire asthetic and get the chaos blade early?
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Which are the most fun weapons and builds of Dark Souls 2?
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>>169367824
>Dark Souls 2
>fun
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>>169367824
Fists
double ultra weapon
mega homosexual butterfly catpants poison master with double spotted whips
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>trying to suicide run the great scythe
fuck this f a m
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>>169367824
It used to be Vanquisher's Seal, until From nerfed for absolutely no reason.
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>lost over 10k when I'm almost done with my RtD character
>repeatedly smack and punch myself in the face because I just spent 6+ hours building this shit just to get fucked by SM
Please end my suffering. Please. I can't fucking bare this never ending cycle of work and disappointment.
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>sitting at Lost Sinner
>no one summoning
Damnit I just want to co-op.
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>>169367605
Like i care fagnut its killed everyone except him but i think that might have to do with having a 30ft range scimitar and invincibility.
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>dual-wielding Ultra Greatswords
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Best Female body settings for dark souls 3?
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>>169368392
Legs: 255
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>>169368392
Custom in the advanced settings. Make as large a difference between legs and waist as possible, with legs being larger. Beyond that, anything goes, be it thicc, sticc, or muscular.
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>>169368392
>not asking for examples
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What's the best early weapon for a pyro?
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>>169368667
okay. what are some examples?
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>>169368669
rapier
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>>169368669
Pyromancy Flame
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>>169367480
>losing to a scimitar
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>>169368392
What kind of girls do you like?
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>>169368112
i've never heard this much autism in my LIFE
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Everyone has taken to running to the bonfire like this is DaS3 babby phantom mode, I mean really?
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>>169368901
I am a die hard ass man
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>>169368112
>not backing up your save the moment you have to retrieve a large amount of souls

lesson learned friendo
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>>169368992
255 legs. Get the black leather boots too.
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>>169368992
>>169369126
abdomen slider controls ass size not legs, sadly.
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Gravity kills are the best ones, especially when they are wielding some big fuck off halberd and they go over the edge trying to attack you.
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>>169368986
says the faggot using babbynobackstabbu armor
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>>169369309
my first pvp weapon in DS2 was a shitty rapier/estoc, boring as fuck spamming R1 after awhile.

sadly its effective at low levels
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>>169369309
>>169368986
This isn't your blog fuck off
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>>169369372
Its for the look, none of these babbys even know what a backstab is, I havent been backstabbed once no one even trys, Ive lost around 5 to people with brazilian internet which cant be helped.
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>>169369445
>Waaaaaa theres dark souls shit in my dark souls general wub wub waaaaaaaa

Fuck off you faggot.
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DaS 2 player
Should I level up ADAPTABILITY?
Its at 5. Warrior. Will my dodge rolls really get better?
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>>169369648
Das2 isn't darksouls :^)
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>>169369684
Yes. Aim for 98 Agility.
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>>169369684
Yes, you'll get more iframes. Check your agility stat; you want it to be around 95-100 (more or less depending on personal preference). Atunement also raises it very slightly, so if you're gonna have loads of spells you might be able to leave a point or two out of adp.
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>>169369493
>>169369648
>>169369789
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0FYNj2mhFpt
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>return to drangleic
>been summoned all of once for ruin sentinels, summoned once for early pursuer
>invaded once, summoned a dragon spirit while trying to rest once, both in FoFG
>have done shit-all multiplayer otherwise
nice event :^)

My fps drops by half when I have another player in my world anyways. No idea why - npc phantoms don't affect me at all.
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10.000 years in character editor and this is the only shit I can come up with.
fuck from softs char editors.
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>>169359723
there's no bonfire at the very beginning of archdragon peak and dying before you get to the first bonfire doesnt send you back to irithyll dungeon
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>>169369972
the fuck is wrong with you
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>>169370116
i fail to see the waifus
those are all abominations
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>>169368986
Just saw your ghost senpai
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How do you get early red eyes boys?
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>>169370249
Turn your monitor on.
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>>169370116
all ugly as sin
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>>169370319
Majula pigs or collector's edition
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>>169369929
>barely getting any online activity
>"nice event :^)"
>1:58:22
Go to bed.
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>>169369798
alright thanks.
>>169369789
>
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>Armorer Dennis
What the fuck is this guy's problem? Last I checked, armorers don't shoot Soul Vortexes at people in earlygame areas.
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>>169370340
What are the red squares
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Doing Return to Dranglaic, wanna go Strength/Offensive Miracle. Is deprived a viable start?
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>>169369893
>>169369795
>>169369798
>more i-frames
no fucking wonder why i got my salad tossed at belfry luna from other players. ffs, from
>hey were gonna have a literal stat that negates skill level and not tell you :)
absolute worst thing about DaS2 from what i can tell so far. otherwise im really enjoying it
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>>169370509
It wouldn't be so bad if rolling wasn't fucked to begin with. Here's how it works in 2:
>tap roll button
>character model rolls, hitbox stays in place
>iframes are applied as determined by your agility
>when roll completes, hitbox teleports to your new location
This is why you get some famous webms of grab attacks hitting nothing then teleporting you into them hopefully a kind anon will provide a few.

If your hitbox moved WITH your character model, adp would be worth a lot less.
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>>169367630
No
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>>169370509
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0DQZhKHgkm5
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>>169370319
Things Betwixt gives you 5, you can then dupe those 5 into 5 full stacks of 99 with CE
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What's the persuers deal leave me alone m8
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>>169370729
>pursuer
>pursuing you
pottery
if he's giving you trouble, slap on a buckler and parry his ass
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>>169370509
>>hey were gonna have a literal stat that negates skill level and not tell you :)

>hey we're gonna have a literal button on the controller that negates skill level, period.
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I don't remember the opening cinematic of DS2 looking so good.

Or the intro with the witches spending so much time on uncomfortable closeups of old lady teeth.
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>>169370853
Kind of sucks that the intro is from a game we didn't actually get. That whole sequence is so fucking cool.
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>when you and your homeboy strike a pose
So this is the power of anime
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>>169370837
To be fair, it's possible to have a dodge button and actually require a bit of skill. Hyper Light Drifter did it - your dodge is really good, but you have no iframes whatsoever unless you invest in the upgrade that deflects bullets, but that costs energy. Point is, your dodge is just fast movement, not a magic invincibility button.
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>>169370837
kek. are you implying that the only good Souls are De, Da1, and DaS3?
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>>169371056
the opposite
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>>169368003
>suicide run
>early as hell into the undead settlement

What? Even if you're SL 1 it should be no problem.
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>>169370251
I know right, theres so much activity, heides-belfry have been orange bordered for me all morning.

<-
Outskilled by a heide knight
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>>169371152
sm?
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best greatsword in DaS 2?
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>>169371152
What SM you running? Sub 40k?
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>not playing the definitive edition
also just got summoned for pursuer.
cant believe ppl really participate in this event.
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>>169371109
>dodging is not skill based
theres literally no other way an action-y game can work. dodge is needed
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>>169371167
About 160k which was enough to upgrade armor+2-3 weapons and level 50. Its the most fun ive had invading in a long while, its refreshing not to invade into 3 phantoms constantly.
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>>169353143
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How do I pyro in DaS2? What are some fun weapons and spells? How much should I put into int and faith?
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>>169371227
You have to consider how many people will also be losing their souls.
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>>169355276
The devs said well before release that Drangleic takes place in another geographical region entirely.
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>>169371414
Did you CE for rings?
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>>169371421
INT+FTH=60
30/30 hits softcap.
only relevant pyros are Great Chaos Fireball & Forbidden Sun.
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do Pyro/hexers work well?
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>>169371892
Ofc, CE is the only way you can twinkvade at such low SM, otherwise your SM would be too high for it.
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>>169356553
>DaS3
>as linear as DeS
It's way more linear than Demon's Souls
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>>169372083
But thats faggotry
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Anything I should know about SOTFS? I want to do a relatively complete run. Do I need to worry about abandoning covenants?
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>>169372207
the only punishment for abandoning covenants is that all of your progress towards the next rank is reset, but you'll keep your rank if you've reached it already
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>>169372304
Thanks. Any major missables I should worry about?
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>>169372117
No, thats fun.
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I was immensely sloppy and ended up at 112k SM by the time I got my agape ring. Will this still be okay for being a bellbonger?

I haven't tried this thing since near-release DS2.
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>fashionsouls is gone
WHEN THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PLAN OUT HOW TO LOOK AS BALLA AS POSSIBLE NOW
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>>169372109
linear isnt bad at all as long as the game is designed well.

the most overrated thing of all time in games is "non-linear"
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*HEY*
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why didnt anyone invent an emulator that can run demons souls on pc
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So /dsg/ quick question:

Why is a Berinike knight in the painted world in DaS? I'm talking the one on the bridge just before Priscilla. If he made it to the painted world, why is Tarkus held in such high esteem for falling off the rafters? Random Berinike bro definitely got further than him.
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>>169372653
yeah defo, i have orange borders at 160k for heides-belfry and everything in between, ive gotten 44 tokens in past couple hours at heides after using 57 orbs.
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>>169372747
what do you mean "fashionsouls is gone"
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>>169372936
just get a trip so we can filter your shitty blog
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>>169373038
>hes posting dark souls stuff in the dark souls thread when i want to get back to real discussions such as gwyndolin vs gwynevere hnnnngh waaaa booo hoooooo

Shut your butthurt asshole up faggot
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>>169353198
I like that butt. Do you have more?
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>>169373031
The site, it's gone
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>>169361534
>/v/ told me this game was easy...
No really.
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Does the giant mace knight in Heide's no longer drop Sublime Bone Dust?
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>>169371052
Hyper Light drifter loses points for making the dodge inconsistent as fuck, both in how often it decides to actually activate, what the window is on when you can chain it, and in how well you're going to be able to control yourself when you stop.

When it worked well, it felt really good, but the rest of the time the dodge just fails to start up and you get fucked, it fails to chain for some reason and you get fucked, or you slide off a ledge or into a wall and get fucked.
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Wasn't there a picture of the witch from DaS3 with a spanked butt? Or was it one of the desert sorceress from DaS2?
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>>169373462
In SotFS subline bone dust was changed to be consistently stored in chests guarded by a lone Syan knight.
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How's blue sentinels doing right about now? Still shit outside of invades, or can I actually get autosummoned now?
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>>169373796
Ive had two blues summoned on me at heides, they were both trash who r1d the air while i rolled around killing the host.

The one good blue invaded me and killed me while i was being a faggot and throwing corrosive urns at him.
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Any of you guys participating in the global restart for 2? What build are you gonna use?
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>>169362316
Holy fuck, listening to that made me think I was reading a post by that lucifer tripfag.
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>tfw not getting any summons for bellfagging
I hope this is just a time of night thing.
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Some cunt lured me to exploding barrels so he could knock me off the edge. Fuck this event. Fuck you guys you probably did it.
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>>169374028
>cheats
>brags killing casuals
dork souls pvp in a nutshell
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>>169374163
>implying
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God, this soul memory shit is making me paranoid. I'm terrified I'll shit my way out of being able to play with people.
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What the fuck is the point of White Corona? It's weak, doesn't track, and I can't seem to get it to hit anything on the return
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>>169374289
What the fuck is the point of ______? Is a question that applies to a huge amount of stuff in DaS3. Best not to think about it too much.
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>>169374208
The SM ranges for most areas are pretty broad, unless you're routinely losing tens of thousands of souls you're fine.

If it worries you that much, go grab the agape ring from Straid to lock your SM.
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>>169374289
>being THIS bad
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>>169374208
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Soul+Memory
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>>169374208
Welcome to "why I never bought anything in DaS2 ever and was vastly underlevelled".
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>>169374163
>trolling is abhorrent
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>>169374208
I fucking hate it too, makes the game almost not fun to play. I just got my Uchi and Im at 40k souls and I already feel too high to go back and play with people at heines tower
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>>169374769
>he would rather get hornet chaos rapier frontstabbed for 2000 damage by a sl20 giant mom
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Anyone up for some jolly cooperation?
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>>169374927
Twinks were never enough of a problem to ever justify what soul memory does.
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I can get Dark Souls 2 Sotfs for 9 yurobux. Worth it? Liked the first one but had to drop it because at the time I couldn't really dedicate the time it really needed.
Next month I'll have a few free weekends. Should I get it or keep the money and try again with the first one?
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>>169374927
I would, yeah. Twinks are annoying, but not such an apocalyptic disruption to gameplay that you need to nuke multiplayer. I'd much rather get merced by a twink every 5 or so interactions when the alternative is no multiplayer at all.
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>>169374968
What game, platform, SL/SM and where?
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Beautiful
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mfw i get summoned as a Darkmoon but the moment i arrive they already killed the invader with no reward for me
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>>169374982
apparently they were otherwise from wouldnt have restricted invasions more and more with every game.
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>>169374982
I think DaS3 handles matchmaking decently.
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Now there's a reference I never would've expected to see.
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>start as bandit to be low as possible in stats I dont want
>beat forest giant
>beat pursuer
>head to the Bastille at level 14
>beat lost sinner
>upgrade fire and equip agape ring
>finally fucking beat her again in a gangbang brawl after a shit ton of attempts
>realize I cant use the witches soul with Straid and its actually the crow I need to turn the soul into the chaos blade

Fuck me dude fuck me. Waste of time. I miss the first game really bad right now.
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>>169375089
From has made many, many shitty decisions around multiplayer.

Soul Memory is by far the worst.
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>>169375150
I invaded him earlier, cool guy. You should summon him.
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Magic using up so much stamina is fucking stupid. You're already at a horrible disadvantage because rolling is bullshit and you're dependent on FP to cast
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shit its been years since I played DS2
is there a list of viable PVP builds? they kept nerfing and buffing weapons that I lost track of what was viable.
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>>169375224
Really really looking forward to your next post, keep them coming.
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>>169375285
rapier
estoc
espada ropera
mastadon halberd
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>>169361720
oh my god
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>>169375150
becky plz
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>>169375282
>Wanting ganks with zero stamina vestiges/soul spear spam
No thanks
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>>169375328
Dont worry little salt, i will.
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>>169375224
we get it dude, you're good at pvping, good job, congratulations, bravo, we all love you
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>>169375341
do I specialize in dex for the rapiers or do I go quality (or is quality called mundane in ds2?) with an even split of dex and str?
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>>169375417
>implying
Ah so salt, ah so so salt.
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>>169375401
Would you consider annoyed an acronym for salty?
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>>169375450
Scaling is shit in DaS2, you use it with minimum requirements and infuse it with dark or raw
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>>169375470
>we get it dude your good at pvp
>IMPLYING

Sooooo you aren't actually good at pvp?

On an unrelated not Ive noticed this series brings out autists a bit, whats up with that?
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>>169375475
>being annoyed because someone isnt posting on 4chan the way you think they should

I think salty is right.
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>>169375450
Mundane is weird as fuck. It scales with your lowest stat. Out of all of them. Unless you plan to throw 30 into EVERYTHING it'll scale off your 9 int or whatever is lower.
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>>169375401
haha xD amazing funny contorted mustache face!!!!! very original and too good +1


fuck off out of this general you neo souls fuckboy.
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>>169373796
I got like 5 summons last night, first time trying the covenant out.
One was a guy who'd popped a finger and was just helping blues get their ears. You're a swell dude, dude.
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>>169375559
Yes, i never said i was a good pvper, im trolling this normie event with my twink, it is very clear, why ya huttburt?
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>>169375651
there are 57 layers of irony in this post
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>>169375651
You see this, ofcourse you cant im pointing down, these are testicles, suck them you fuccboi faggot im not gunna stop invading heides :^)
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>>169375749
>im not gunna stop invading heides :^)
go fight the fuck ahead, what we don't give a shit about is your cute little first 200h of your first souls game DaS2. Your posts would be beneficial to the thread if this was fucking 2014 maybe
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>>169355703
>She's as big as the lanky milfanito

That is actually incorrect. She's about as big as Shanalotte.
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>>169375341
not him but was there seriously that little build variety in DS2?
rapier poking the only viable strat?
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>>169375749
how can one poster be so based
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>>169372482
persuer for souls m80
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>>169375828
>first 200h

Okay whatever you need to believe, if this is what makes you this salty enjoy your pitiful existence faggot.
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>>169376039
>Okay whatever you need to believe, if this is what makes you this salty enjoy your pitiful existence faggot.
Nice damage control :)
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>>169376039
>getting this upset
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>>169372653
Feck I'm gonna be way too high
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>>169376039
This is why i acid bathed all you le funny face losers in DaS2, you're all retarded troglodytes with a pea sized brain
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>>169376080
>>169376098
>>169376152
>being THIS buttblasted

holy shit just go back to /bbg/ already
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>>169376098
>getting this upset

getting 'this' upset

>>169376080
Its easy when its true.
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Protip for people doing the return to DaS2 and being bothered by twanks - get corrosive urns. They lock their SM so they only fight newbies they can beat so they have no souls for repairing their gear.
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>>169376152
Acidbathing is a favoured past time of mine too <:^)
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>>169376265
if you ever played ds2 you would know all twinks are cheaters
just CE yourself and destroy their savegame
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where's good place for pvp at sM 90k-110k?
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WANT A CONTAINMENT GENERAL FOR DARK SOULS 2 BABBYS
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>>169376308
You should get a tripcode bro you're hilarious haha
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>>169376356
I'm at 127k and belltower is devoid of activity, not sure where I could go for co-op either.

Could just be due to the time though.
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I'm closing in on the end of a DS1 run. I don't know if I want to link the fire or just let it fade.
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>>169376365
this only lasts for about a week
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>>169376319
True, but they whined so much they got their agape rings so they can at least pretend they're not cheating fucks.

Much like mr Heide invader with way too many consumables to be an appropriate SM for Heide invasions. I'm sure he'll insist it's all legit if pushed.
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>>169376265
>twinking without CE
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>>169376409
I figured out yours

butthurt#butthurt
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>>169376498
>needing to cheat while twinking
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>>169376498
Sad part is it is totally possible to twink in 2 legit, but yeah if the only people you can beat are sub 100kSM I doubt you're doing it without cheat engine. May as well just turn on the corrosive urn stream cheat and at least make it funny.
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>>169376470
>Much like mr Heide invader with way too many consumables to be an appropriate SM for Heide invasions

>implying

>>169376587
>>169376635
The salt here is so obvious, play offline if you dont like it.
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>based normie killer ZE GERMAN triggering /dsg/ cucklords

BASED
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>>169376732
Not even playing, just find it funny you're so shit you need a full stack of resins and mosses to beat total newbies.

C'mon, at least be imaginative with your cheats. Moveswap a rapier onto a KUGS or something, don't do all that cheating and pretend you're anything close to legit.
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>>169376854
You forgot to avatarfag with your character this time
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>>169372083
No it isn't you dumb twinking faggot
Why are y'all so fucking stupid?
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>>169376854
please don't mention me, i'm just a cock gobbling nigger
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@169376887
cry more
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>>169377003
L24chan fagit
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>>169377030
It's to make sure he doesn't get any (you)'s.
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>>169376887
I save myself some time, so i can have all fun rekting normies returning to the game yes

>>169376903
Like this? This kind of butthurt doesnt belong here, go back to le reddit
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>>169377030
>being this new
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>>169377030
he didn't deserve a (You)
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>all these newfags in here
kys niggers
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why are DaS2 players so alpha and why are DaS1 nostalgiafags and DaS3 babbies so easy to trigger
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>>169377164
forged through months of CE wizardry
you shouldnt leave majula without your backup script to instantly kill the invader and destroy his gear when you notice him twinking.
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>>169377164
Real answer?

Winter break.
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>DS2 events take place
>general immediately goes to putrid shit
welp saw that coming a mile away, see you in a few days
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>>169377285
implying it was ever good
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>>169377324
never said it was good but at least it didn't reek of neo/v/
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>>169377076
The triggering is complete when the thread screencaps start.
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>>169377393
>he would rather have discord e-celebs, pcfcbf shit, some faggot spamming his shitty webms, waifuposting
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How are you guys finding each other in DaS2?
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>>169377490
>he would rather have newfags and normies shitflinging
just go back to /v/, its already there
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>>169376004
qt desu
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>>169377582
reported
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>>169377572
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/hm/
>>>/r9k/
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>>169377657
epic retort bro, you sure got me.
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>>169377630
Enjoy your permaban
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>>169377723
nice damage control
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>>169377723
owned idiot
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>>169377792
epic comeback. how much brain power did you use for that? have one last (you), you seem like you need it
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I remember when this general was about dark souls.
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Such a weird feeling going into invasions where neither me or the host can flippantly heal in each others presence without some major punishment going on
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Best STR weapon in ds1? NG+ is giving me the memes
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78 tokens 93 orbs down
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>>169378340
I wish the host didn't turn or is able to walk while chugging.
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>>169378529
Based. Can't wait for you to get Ring of Thorns +2. Keep us updated brah.
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>>169378529
How did you get to the cov and still keep your soul memory so low? Im guessing you bought the ring too?
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Playing the DS2 DLCs for the first time, what should I expect? I'm SL 105 if it matters
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>>169378630
use your brain
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>>169378529
What the fuck is your problem!?
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>>169378819
His parents neglected him and he wants attention.
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>>169378790
if you're in ng+ it'll be difficult
enemies are usually in groups so buy a lot of arrows
bosses have high elemental defence
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>>169355276
>until Dark Souls 3 came and decided that it wasn't.
Where was that?

>>169371678
That was when DA2 eas supposed to be something very different
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>>169378630
Yes.
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>>169378848
>implying he isn't a 6'3" rich handsome smart funny popular Chad irl
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>>169378790
That's actually kind of underlevelled as far as the DS2 dlc's go, but don't let that discourage you.
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>>169378969
>babe chill ill be at the party when i get there i gotta farm these orbs
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>>169378864
I'm actually near the end of the main game (just defeated Vendrick) and just went for a standard melee build so elemental defence shouldn't bee too much of a problem I hope.
>>169378975
Fuck.
I haven't grinded at all cause the main game is actually pretty forgiving in my opinion.
Maybe I should go back to the Ancient Dragon bossfight are and level up a bit more.
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>>169360650
What the fuck is this meme shit?

>but they exist disconnected within the same world at different periods of time.

Give me the From quote on this
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>>169379132
just get warped sword brah
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Where should I be invading at SL80? Archives is kind of dead.
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>tfw barely spent any time bellbonging but still already have enough materials to make one of my weapons +10

This is so broken and fun, I love it.
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>>169379519
Archdragon peak
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>play as female character
>only get %77 souls

wtf from
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is this the hottest image created in mankind?
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>>169379391
>tfw still using Varangian Sword

Cheap and reliable my man
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>play DaS2
>see fucktons of signs in the cardinal tower
>0 signs throughout the rest of the game
Nice event dasbabs
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I really want to try invading people in the frozen outskirts
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>>169372756
>linear isn't bad at all as long as the game is designed well

"designed well" is completely subjective. In a soulsborne game where a lot of emphasis is placed on the player's ability to explore and roam around, making the game stiflingly linear will hurt the gameplay experience. It makes replaying the game kinda boring when every playthrough has you tackling the same things in the same order.

One of the biggest strengths of DS1 is that when you start a run, you have a ton of options in terms of where you go and this allows you beeline for spells / items you want for your builds.

In DeS the areas had forks that allowed for magic users to beeline to Latria to get the magic shit, faith users to go to VoD, STR into StoneFang and DEX into Shrine of Storms.

>>169373573
desert sorceress from ds2 and I know exactly the picture you mean but can't post it because it's lewd.
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>>169379821
Are you retarded? The event just started today so people are in the beginning stages of the game.
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>>169380354
Does it take them one full day to get to Huntsman's Copse or Lost Bastille? I started out on a fresh character too, Anon. No need to be so hostile. I know you've got to keep up that 4chan character of yours but feel free to tone down a bit.
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>>169380273
But wasn't there another one with one of the witch, either yuria from DS or Karla from DaS3?

Or was it anal sex rather than spanking? I don't remember.
Well, if I remembered, I could google it.
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>>169380479
>does it take them a full day
Murriburgers have barely woken up.
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Are they only playing SOTFS?
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>>169377067
>implying any funposter worth their salt doesn't have the script that negates your petty shit
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>>169380948
It's always going to be the most populated choice but there are probably people revisiting the original DS2 as well.
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>>169379604
sauce
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>>169380354
desu senpai most players started yesterday. Ive got a dude in Earthen Peak, one at the sinner, and another chilling in the cathedral of the blue, also I see a lot of really bad people dying to the tree giant so I think this is a first run for some people.
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>tfw first time playing dark souls 2 I poison infused my dragonrider twin blade and tried to pvp

The cool thing was that I actually managed to poison quite a lot. Stunlocking niggas all day.

The bad news is that the damage I did was chump change.
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Guys i think i fucked up greirats questline. I forgot to send him out for his first scavenge. And now im at sully. I wont be able send him to illithryl if i kill sully right?
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>>169381718
the only problem is if you went and lit the jailer's bonfire
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>>169381718
You will be able to send him. I killed the Rotten Greatwood to make him come back from his second scavenge. You can kill any boss as long as Siegmeyer stays in Irithyll(Or patches has the armor)
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I really hope TRC blows the fuck out of the Karla/Zullie speculators.
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>>169381959
or just not mention at all, which is what you should expect
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>>169373573
>that right leg

fucking hell, now that the proportion fuckery was pointed out to me, i can't ignore it
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>>169381959
It kills all cancerous E celeb theories, that's why everyone but vaati isn't bothering to talk about it, and vaati doesn't care because he's a shitposting mound maker and is really /ourguy/
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>>169355908
>forgetting about that one area with the big ass wolf, and his 5000 doges
I shiggy my diggy
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>>169382081
>vooti
>/ourguy/

Back to rebbit vaati
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>>169382132
An autistic theory spouting shitter that just steals other people's ideas?
Sounds like our guy to me
He's also hot
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Is item swap still bannable on DS3?
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What is the best twinblade by the way?
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>>169382201
So you're just a thirsting faggot, alright then
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What nets you bans in 2?
Will spawning covenant items and orbs bite me in the ass?
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>>169382206
santier's spear
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>>169382081
>>169382132

Vaati / Sanadsk won't care because by that point they've already made a ton of bank on their lore videos.

>>169382201
>he's also hot.
He has dumbo ears but except for those he looks p. handsome. And his voice is sex.
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>>169382298
There's nothing gay with having sex with hot men anon
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Why is it that the ghost of the Outriders look pretty good, but while wearing the armor, it looks like shit. I just want to do an Outrider build but man, idk
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>>169382342
He's also a manlet

>his voice is sex

Yes, the "I have to whisper so my parents won't wake up" voice sure is sex
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>>169382478
how tall?
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>>169382205
Yes but it's fairly safe and risk-free if you do it offline and avoid any items that another player couldn't drop for you during online play.

Some items that fall under this category would be boss souls, all upgrade materials and covenant reward items.
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Im not sure how soul memory works, but i think i just killed the game by helping some faggots kill the Pursuer. I spent 50k souls in the first 20 minutes of the game and now all the summon signs are gone.
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>>169382764
I see, so I can get like, weapons on +10 but I can't drop items to upgrade it myself?
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>>169382606
4 feet 9 inches
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>>169382312
I don't think anyone ever gathered solid data on it because DS2 is super cryptic about softbans. You don't get any indication that it has happened if you do get caught besides the potential number of people you encounter during online play shrinking drastically.

Only thing that is a total guarantee to get you in trouble is directly modifying your souls/soul memory/attributes etc.
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>>169382791
Think of soul memory as a clock, running in the background. As you play the game, the second hand ticks forward as you constantly earn souls. Players that go through the game normally will typically all be at approximately the same time, meaning they'll always be able to summon each other, but if you're either really good, really bad, or keep replaying the game you drop out of sync. If you constantly help people in co-op, you're pushing your own clock forward even though you're not progressing in the game.

You're now sitting at 2AM wondering why there's nobody to summon when everyone else is chilling out at midday and playing the game normally.
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>>169382809
I dunno about upgraded weapons but the base unupgraded weapons are fine since all of them are freely tradable
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>>169382312
Nobody knows. You don't even get a warning if you're banned. You literally need to email Bamco and ask if you've been soft banned and if you're lucky they'll give a yes/no response. They've literally never revealed what triggers the soft bans, and the fact that you can never really be sure if you're soft banned means nobody has bothered to experiment.
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>>169382809
Easy workaround for upgrades would be the script that makes upgrading not consume any materials. I don't think there's any way for the game to distinguish this from normal upgrading.

Item swapping weapons that are already upgrading would work as well, but there's a bit of an issue there due to the weapon memory system if you were say, trying to swap yourself a +10 weapon when you've only upgraded something to +2 normally.
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>>169382935
Lmao, not like I see any players anyway, got one instance of co-op and 2 invasions
The rewards from warriors of sunlight are just taunting me
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>>169382125
oh yeah
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I am a sorcerer using just a raw rapier +4. I have 13 strength and 18 dex. I am wondering if there is a better weapon I should be using for up close combat.

I was told great friede scythe is good, sellsword twinblade or moonlight greatsword
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>>169382201
Shut up, Vaati.
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>>169383135
I've used CE in the past to achieve maximum rank in all covenants in DaS2 and Scholar and from what I can tell in SotFS at least I'm still not softbanned.

Not that this is really an endorsement that it is safe or a good idea to do that though.
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Is everyone on SotFS? I only have normal DS2.
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>>169382791
there's supposed to be a ring that will absorb souls so you can co-op for fun
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>>169383135

Instant invasions all morning baby
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Fuck darkmoon covenant and their shitty way to raise ranks

Yes you can farm Silver Knights but the best spot only has 3 of them and its so boring
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>>169383554
>jester top
kys tryhard
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>>169383625
You were warned. What did you think she meant when she said she will provide the succ?
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>start undead match
>nobody there
>have to leave
what gives?
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>>169383937
Early morning in burgerland and maybe people checking in on DS2 again.
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>>169383862
how can one man be so hopeless with noses?
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>>169383937
start duel
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>>169384012
I really don't understand this whole nose thing.
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>>169383996
I mean that the match will begin but then I'll get a message that all contestants have left and it will take me out.
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I am a sorcerer using just a raw rapier +4. I have 13 strength and 18 dex. I am wondering if there is a better weapon I should be using for up close combat.

I was told great friede scythe is good, sellsword twinblade or moonlight greatsword
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>Yhorm's great machete and an offhand caestus
>again
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>>169384232
I'm new to 3, can someone explain this offhand caestus meme to me? I've seen it a few times
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In DS1, is there any point to twohanding DEX scaling weapons? I won't gain any more damage, right?
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>>169384480
they changed the parry frames on caestus to come out much much earlier so it's possible to parry on reaction rather than prediction
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>>169384496
If you prefer the two-handed moveset then that's the only reason, yeah. A lot of "dex" weapons still have slight STR scaling so you might benefit from two-handing but otherwise yeah, no.
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>>169384523
Huh I see
>>
Let's ask again.

Best waifu set/build?
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>>169384649
I've seen mild success with my dancer cosplay but someone who's actually good at pvp might do better.
>>
I despise how backstep can only be used safely in pvp when you're already like 50 feet away because lag favors the attacker so much.
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What's your victory emojI?
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>>169385118
tab out
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>>169385118
Collapse.
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>>169385118
None, after any invasion or PvP where it's not in my world k just put the controller down and stand still
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>>169385118
>emojI
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>>169385118
>umbra

CRRRAWWLING IN MY SKIN
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>>169385118
I point up
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>>169385118
I point down
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>>169385118
by my "sword"
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>>169385118
collapse
>>
It would be dope if you could use bosses you defeated as summons in the final DLC
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is it a good idea to get a darnsign tattoo over my chest?
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>>169385118
Point down
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Does the Uchi have any advantage over 2kats?
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>>169386191
It looks like a flaming asshole to someone who hasn't played Dark Souls.

I'd personally rather get the Hunter's mark if I was forced to bite the bullet and get a videogame tattoo. actually the MSF / Diamond Dongs logos would be be first picks but out of soulsborne
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>>169385118
Applause whilst spinning around on the spot.
>>
Need a lore check

I read something in DS1 that said Gwyn (I think) commissioned Ariamis to paint that world and then ordered the Guardians to stand outside and ensure nothing ever comes in or out of the gallery and someone wants a source on this...but I can't remember where in the game I read this. I know I did because I only just started DS1 a few days ago for the first time...but for the life of me I can't remember where the fuck I read that in the game.
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>>169386668
That's just baseless speculation, nowhere stated in the gaem
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>>169386191
People that plays games will likely get it but for those who not it will be weird

But I prefer a Dark sign over people that gets Artorias tattoed or something like that, i dislike vidya tattoos unless they are very subtle.
>>
>twinks still exist
Great to see there are still shitters who need their 90% winrate and will use the most broken bullshit to win without any skill involved.
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>>169386854
Welcome to Dark Souls
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>>169362473
I said it once and I'll say again, the dark edge description is the only leg you have to stand on. At this point there's no evidence against the fact that she's a fragment of Manus, the game fucking tells us that quite bluntly from her ashes. You're the one trying to jump through hoops that a title that has always meant one thing suddenly means something else with no precedence. "Karla is Zullie" is admittedly autistic as shit and makes even less sense, but it's one of the theories running around. You could argue she inherited the fragment of dark from Zullie, which sounds ridiculous, but at the least plausible. You could argue the Seeker of The Spurned isn't the original Alva going off his armor description suggesting it's based off of the tale of the OG Alva.

Honestly, Alva being there obfuscates so much shit. But suggesting she isn't a fragment of Manus is horseshit.
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>>169386668
Their armor specifically states the reason for guarding it passed out of memory ages ago
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Ok /dsg/ I finally fucking tried bloodborne after shitting on it for no reason for the past 3 years.

im 20 minutes in and i csnt get enough. it feels like every action I make actually matters.. I legitimately feel afraid of every corner and new enemy i see

It feels like ds1.

Why isn't this feeling present in ds3.
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>>169386668
>need a lore check
I'd suggest watching ENB's lore videos but the painting guardian hood has some lore description about the part about them guarding the painting....

Nothing about Gwyn commissionining Ariamis to paint that shit tho'
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>>169386764
>>169386962
You guys missed some little text box in the game. I know I read it, now I have to fucking track it down.
>>
I'm still shocked that I managed to beat Dark Souls 1, I was so awful.
>Pumped a good 15 levels in resistance early on
>Preferred fat rolling and heavy armor
>Didn't even know about i-frames so I blocked everything and died about 12 times to tutorial boss
>Played with Keyboard and Mouse
Beat all bosses including DLC except for Gwyndolin and Prissy
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>>169386914
>>uhh it's zullie and she changed her name to karla
>>uhh it's not the original alva, just another guy with the same armor and backstory named alva

Really sums up this comment chain. One line about a being a "child of dark" when she's a witch does not outweigh the metric fuckload of shit that says she's just a witch and the daughter of AZ. The "Dark Edge is his only proof!" shit is dumb as hell, are you going to try and disprove it or just repeat over and over that you don't like it? Shit, anon.
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>>169387154
Was it fun anon?
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>>169386980
>why isn't this feeling present in DS3?

Because DS3 shat bonfire checkpoints everywhere. When you get to the Undead Settlement equivalent you can compare much better just how bad the checkpointing in DS3 is in comparison and how it manages to remove the tension from a lot of otherwise good levels.

Dark Souls 2 an 3 went for "quality of life improvements" which ended up sucking the tension out of the game for a large part.

That said, after your first run you start to run through BB on autopilot like the other games.... But the levels are still full of tension because of the checkpointing system that feels like DeS.
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>start a dex ds3 run
>crow quills and sellsword twinblades in less than an hour
>can get CB and hornet ring easily too
The amount of awesome early game options is one of the things i really love about DS3.
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>>169386991
>>169387145
>I need a lorecheck
>Go watch ENB

WEWLAD
>>
so did Lorian and Lothric fuck?
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>>169387326
Fuck off Vooti, ENB might have become a huge cunt faggot with a JUST life but his early lore vieos are good.

He's the only one who had insight into From and actually met memezaki. It's a real shame what became of him
>>
>>169387447
Given how weird-ass their entire royal family is?
Certainly.
>>
Returned to souls after a long time.
Bought the DLC, started a new game.

What weapons are worth going for now?
Is it still Dark Sword 3 or did they change anything?
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>>169387227
>>Uuuuh, ignore this title that has always meant this one singular thing, it means something else completely now because it's my personal theory.

That's your comment chain, likewise. How many times do I have to say that she can be a fragment of Manus, and still be a witch and heretic at the same time? If anything being a fragment of Manus would de facto make her a heretic by merely existing. If anything being a fragment of Manus would make it far easier to be a witch than if she was not.

I'm conceding that the dark edge's description is a valid point. But one description on a spell does not negate something told to us flat to our face from her ashes, or vice versa.
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>>169387529
speaking of the family

whatever the fuck happened to Ocelotte

The Divine Blessings states that the Queen did give birth to the kid, so its not Oceiro's insanity playing tricks.

so what happened?
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>>169387790
He probaply smashed him during the fight. If not, he might show up in the DLC
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>>169386764
>baseless speculation
It's not, the game straight up tells you they feared her unique Lifehunt power
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What's a good dagger to infuse with Dark in DaS3?
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>>169387448
ENB dropped the lore shit because he got caught shilling way too hard, not because of his real life shit.

He makes shit up constantly and says "heh itll be in the guide so just buy it and find out". Remember beasthood? Red lady? Flora?

>>169387620
Why are you so sure it's a title and not a descriptor? It's not a title. It's not capitalized or anything. It's describing a Witch just as much as it's describing a fragment of manus, except Karla has parents and is dressed in Witch attire.
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>>169387897
Yep
>Scythe born from the soul of Priscilla, the stark white crossbreed trapped inside the Painted World of Ariamis. Even the Gods feared Priscilla's lifehunt ability, and in the hands of a mortal, its power will turn upon its wielder.
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>>169387790
>whatever the fuck happened to Ocelotte
Have you noticed that every time Oceiros smashes his left hand there's weak shockwave coming from it?
Remember that dragon form allows you to do a dragon roar which is basically the same shockwave but larger?
We're most likely seeing as Oceiros smashes Ocelotte who screams from pain, resulting in a small shockwave coming from him.
By the end of battle he's probably dead or dying while being invisible and lying in a cold water of the boss area.
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>>169387975
>Use the soul of this crossbreed bastard child and antithesis to all life to acquire a huge amount of souls, or to create a unique weapon.

They definitely were keeping her a prisoner. They probably didn't kill her because she was still their kin and technically innocent.
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>>169388002
I mean

don't shock waves come from things they smash them
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>>169387943
>buying a guidebook of fan theories
What?
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>>169388138
shockwaves specifically come only from his left hand, the same hand he carries invisible child in during the first stage
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mOUND MAKERS SHOULD get attacked by npcs.
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>>169388098
There's stuff in the game that mentions Priscilla before you ever get to her other than the doll, that might be the clue to the Painting Guardians.
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>>169387943
If you can show me one other point, in any of the games, where "child of dark" is used to describe a witch and not a fragment of Manus, I'll concede that you're right. However, I find that fantastically unlikely. It can be read as a title or descriptor.

I ask again, why would they use "child of dark" to mean something else than what they've always used that phrase to mean?
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>>169388254
does he ever smash his right hand?
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Ok so I want to give DS3 a try but I don't have a 360 pad. Is motionjoy still my best bet for playing Dark souls with a PS3 pad?
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>>169388098
I dont think they were keeping her prisoner, she wanted to be there because she was an abomination. She was still really powerful so guards were placed around the painting.
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>>169388363
He constantly uses both of his hands to move around and attack.
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>>169387943
The beasthood thing is something I asked about in /bbg/ and it was less of him "lying" than rather wording things in a manner that gave an impression that there was more to it than actually was.

As far as the lore goes, he was interested in DS3's lore to a degree, but by the time he was back from all the stuff working on the guides for DS2 and BB, Vaati had already solidified as the loremaster, and ENB probably also became disillusioned with the DS SERIES lore when he caught that they're just kinda making up shit as they go along instead of having had some fleshed out plan for the story / lore and the clumsy way they're tying the sequels together with direct references but also being vague at the same time about what actually happened.

When ENB was working on the Bloodborne casual lorethrough he was genuinely getting into the lore again which makes me even sadder that he decided to drop it.

>>169387326
>>169387448
>>169387943

ENB's strength is that he mostly sticks to what is actually in the game instead of treating his headcanons as the objective truth and when he DOES speculate, he separates his speculation from what is backed up by item descriptions etc.

I'd absolutely recommend watching his From the Dark series on DS1 regardless of what you think of his recent content or any of the things he's accused of over the years (partially by shitposters dedicated on tarnishing his image for lord knows what reason)
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>>169388319
MOUND MAKERS should never get attacked by NPCs unless they attack one first, and they should be immune to the seed of giants.
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>>169388403
It was a combination of like 3 different views

Gwyn thought she was dangerous

Ariamis wanted to save her

And Priscilla just wants...sanctuary/belonging?

Gwyn definitely wants to get rid of her, I know because I read it in the game but I'm trying to track down what says that.
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>summon someone for covetous demon so he can have a free sunlight medal
>proceed to humiliate myself against one of the easiest bosses in the game
dang....
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>>169388424
Lmao, how're the wife and kids?
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>>169388424
>of the things he's accused of over the years

Most of the shit he said himself in the podcasts.

Also, his DS3 playthrough was fucking garbage. It's a shame he lost interesst because 3 has some legit good content
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>>169388231
No, ENB worked on DS2 and Bloodborne futurepress game guides. The controversy about the beasthood shit was something in his videos where he said that "the guide will completely change people's view of the beasthood mechanic" and it was something like a mechanic that was only really added into the game in the DLC and / or had to do with people not discovering it and then accusing him of lying / shilling idk. I should've screencapped the /bbg/ post I got in response when I asked about it.
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Why do prism stone scream when they fall from a high spot? Are prism stones living beings?
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>>169388424
>Vaati had already solidified as the loremaster,

This is why most Lorefags are retards. They take anything he says for fact.

how many people out there actually think Gwyn linked the fire to huemanity because of him?
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>>169388710
To let you know its a fatal fall.
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>>169388710
They scream?
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>tfw you realize dark souls 3 isn't bad, it's just the terrible community
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I am a mound maker and I got attacked by npcs. How?
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>>169388796
Souls gaems in general
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>>169388780
>Gwyn linked the fire to huemanity
I thought Humanity was the Dark Soul, and thus completely separated from the fire?
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>>169388319
>invade a guy in Irithyll
>run to the manor
>kill Siegward, denying the host a Slab and Emit Force
>BC out
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Just started a new guy on PS4. Anyone want to do some coop on the High Wall to make it feel less tedious?
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>>169388837
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>>169388671
>his DS3 playthrough was fucking garbage
It was pretty decent for his first playthrough I would say. I mean, it wasn't super in-depth lore video series or anything but I'd consider it a pretty fair take on DS3.

He was pretty excited about DLC1 and gave it a fair shake while everyone else was shitting on the game.

Also his enjoyment of the game seemed to tank rapidly when retards spoiled the game's other endings and quests for him, which made him have less fun with the game overall, and unfortunately he also quit the "Let's Plat"-series.

>>169388561
what's that supposed to mean?
C'mon now
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>>169389027
His wife was only in it for the greencard and took the kid. Eat the rice, pay the prize.


Also, it almost drove me mad how he never accepted Yoel's level up shit until he was dead. Did he actually play the DLC?
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>>169388332
this is worse than the "NK is a king of Lothric" shit

a word or phrase can be used to describe multiple things, a witch is just applicable to child of dark

I'll grab JP descriptions when I get home and see if they use a different word in JP, otherwise you'll just have to combat your own autism
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>>169389001
Sure, pass is is dsg?
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>>169388903
All the great souls are born from the fire, Dark Soul included. Its just that for whatever reason, no one wanted the Dark Soul except for the Furtive Pygmy.

I mean in 1 we sacrificed humanity to the flame to cure hollowing, but its hard to say if that had plot related reasoning behind it or if it was just a game mechanic.
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>>169389206
>NK is a king of Lothric

what
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>>169389281
>its hard to say if that had plot related reasoning behind it or if it was just a game mechanic
Like most things, sadly. You never know if it's intended in the lore or of it's a gameplay mechanism. Even the bonfires aren't fully explained.

>>169389351
They took the "nameless king" literally, I guess. Probably imagining him as an Usurper.
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>>169389351
Reddit thinks Nameless King was the King of Lothric mentioned by the Cathedral Knight Great shield because you can't be a King in DS3 without being a King of Lothric
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>>169389404
>They took the "nameless king" literally, I guess. Probably imagining him as an Usurper.

Fucking hell, headcanon and trying to puzzle things together is fine but there shiuld be a line
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>>169389173
>Yoel's level up shit
Well, I didn't accept it either. Yoel was too eager to suck my dick and I had a hunch it would've been something bad.

>his wife was only in it for the greencard and took the kid
Jesus Christ, that sucks. What about the other kids, I remember from his early Bloodborne videos that they had another on the way? Or was that with another woman?

>>169389206
Solaire is the Carthus sandworm
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>>169389265
Awesome, let's do it.
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Is DS3 super dead today or what? I got a few summons for Abyss Watchers and a couple of Watchdog invasions earlier on, but now I'm dicking around in the Catacombs and the place is dry as a bone. No signs anywhere or any invaders.
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>>169389493
You think retards like that have a line? Next thing you'll know, they'll claim that Ornstein ended up marrying Gwynerear, and that the Old Dragon Slayer you fight in DaS2 is actually his descendant.
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>>169389591
Return to Drangleic event started today.
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does the unofficial patch work with the latest version of the game? I'm trying to initialize it but nothing's happening
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>>169389527
>I remember from his early Bloodborne videos that they had another on the way? Or was that with another woman?

Oh anon, your in for a ride....

They had a miscarriage and that's also why ENB never really did anything on The Old Hunters, because all the baby shit triggers him.
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>>169389642
Oh shit, right. Lame.
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>>169389281
>no one wanted the Dark Soul except for the Furtive Pygmy.
Because it was dark like their world in the deeps, and wasn't "light" like the rest. It is said to "resonate" with the furtive Pygmy and it's called the "dark soul" after all. It represented what they already had, the dark.

Hollows potentially being what all humans were before the dark soul? "And then from the Dark, They came." And you see hollows standing up when the lords also arrive. And its "humanity" so it animates them. And when you take it away they hollow once more.

So I'm guessing the first flame only had those 4 souls? That would mean all those hollows were then just given souls by the Furtive Pygmy? (Though I like the idea that the Furtive Pygmy was a woman and gave birth which is how humanity spread)
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Explain something to me

Why are so many human like bosses so such big guys

Diffrent race or something else?
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>>169389987
This is what bothers me with Dark Souls : it uses terms we're familiar with (humans, gods, souls), but they mean something else in these games.
Like, the humans are the same, but their true form is of a hollow. Also, "souls" are more like magical energy rather than the remains of a person. And there's no afterlife.

And anyone who's human can become an undead.

>>169390127
Gameplay purpose.
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>>169389206
>Insisting that words mean things is now autism.

Holy fuck you're really butthurt about the idea that you might be partially wrong. "Child of dark" has only ever been used to describe a fragment of Manus, it was a phrase created DS2 to describe explicitly fragments of Manus and no one else. Why, and I ask this once more, would they use a phrase that was always intended and made to refer to one thing, out of the blue be used to refer to something else entirely? You can't seem to answer that, you keep holding on to this olympics-tier hoop jumping that with zero precedence they're using a word to mean something than what it's always meant. If anything, you're the autist.

There were other witches in Dark Souls 2 right? DLC perhaps? Maybe even in Dark Souls 3 other than Karla if you want to stretch? In any of those cases, even once, are they described as children of dark?
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>>169390127
>Why are so many human like bosses so such big guys
For you
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>>169390262
If i pulled that tail off would you die?
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What are some good weapons for Dex/Fth in DS3? I've tried Follower Sabre at 40/45 but it seems a bit week.
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>>169390161
>Also, "souls" are more like magical energy rather than the remains of a person
If that were true then the energy would be interchangeable freely for reanimation, I think Anastacia proves that's not true.

But I think you're partly right, they are in fact souls, but souls can be aspects and embodiments of things and not just identities or personalities. But they can also be personalities and identities. And all of this can also be used as simply fuel.
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This type of fanmail worries me.
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>>169390161
>gameplay purpose

according to the wiki, the big guys are Gods

http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Gods
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>>169389404
I think the best bonfire lore we got in the entire series is when Friede asks us if we can see the Bonfire in the room, and to use it to leave. Which implies she can't see it at all.

>I presume it visible to thee? The bonfire here, in this room. A meek and faded thing, but 'twill guide thee nonetheless.

She also alludes to the fact she knows you can respawn at bonfires, but we've seen bonfires used to trap respawns and other enemies aware we will continue respawning as well.

But yeah, this is why I like speculation but take it with a grain of salt because its hard to tell what's on purpose, and what's just a game mechanic.
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>>169389828
>that's also why ENB never really did anything on The Old Hunters, because all the baby shit triggers him.

I'd say that that sounds a bit far-fetched.....
......but it's absolutely in line with him dropping his recent lorethrough run of Bloodborne for being "burnt out" after he opted to butt his head against an optional chalice boss for multiple days.

I'm saddened to hear about his personal loss but yeah, it feels weird that he'd play BB but NOT Old Hunters.
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>>169390446
>Thank you and good luck.
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>>169390508
I should reword that, she probably can see it but isnt sure if you can see it. Bonfires might only be visible to undead.
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Where the fuck is everyone? Im at huntsman corpse and ive had only one summon.

Is 25 too low or something?
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>>169390367
It would be extremely painful.
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>>169390442
But I'm a Christian, so the idea of stealing people's souls and deny them the afterlife bothers me.
No, rather than bothering me, it terrifies me.

>>169390508
But it's never explained why everyone respawns when you rest, or why the bosses never get tired of fighting you.
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>>169389265
Thanks! Sweet build btw. Your whole getup was cool.
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>>169390572
Him being triggered by some aspects of BB is actually true, I think he talked about it in one of his podcasts.
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>>169390602
What a polite young man, isn't he?
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>>169390747
Thanks my dude, that's the first pyro build since 1.

Your fashion was also nice for the beginning
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https://youtu.be/T5Ne-vHvk_g?list=PL37878DE1D5A44C60

This guy is alive or it just puppet?
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>>169390456
Most of them yes, but dudes like Vendrick are just regular huemans
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>>169390992
>Vendrick
>Human

holy shit, what fucking milk did he drink?
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>>169390872
Thanks. Spent a while on the face and got lucky with some early drops.
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>>169391075
giant souls?
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>>169387943
Gonna need some sauce on that pic, image result isnt turning up squat
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>>169390734
I've only played DS1 so far so I don't know about the others (yet) but it seems their creation story is in fact lacking any afterlife at all.

Souls crystalize or something when they are left alone for too long or something, right? I remember seeing someone say that a long time ago.
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>>169383790
>twink invades to gank returning scrubs
>tryhard

Pretty sure you dont know what this word means champ.
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>>169391140
Yes, and it's an item in DaS2. You use souls that crystallized to heal yourself.
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I want to play Dark Souls for the first time, but I don't have a controller.
Should I get one before playing or will I be fine?
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>>169390734
>so the idea of stealing people's souls and deny them the afterlife bothers me
A friend of mine that was the son of a Preacher says that's just fiction from misinterpretations of how Satan gets your soul. Your soul can't ever be traded, it is yours forever and just receives judgment one day. You "trade it" by committing evil deeds. But you can't make a contract with Satan/demons or anything like that to offer it, because even they know such a contract is complete bullshit and you can find redemption afterwards and anything that they gave you ultimately got them nothing.
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>>169391369
I actually like that idea, because there are many fictions/fantasy where you steal or eat souls that it's actually scary.
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>>169391282
I heard people use the keyboard and mouse just fine, you just have to lower your mouse sensitivity quite a bit in-game. Because it starts out at 900 degree spins by breathing on the mouse at first.

I used a controller because some Dark Soul dev (I remember this from when the PC Prepare to Die version came out) answered the question if people should use mouse or keyboard and they said they made the game with the controller in mind. I'm guessing this is mostly L1/2 are your left arm actions and R1/2 are your right arm actions...

But I think I'll just use my mouse and keyboard when I start DS2. Controller was fine though, it made looking around while running almost impossible though.
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>>169391585
Ok that's good to hear, thanks!
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>tfw no futureanimu souls
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>>169391585
I hear that, I always use my index finger for B when running so i can use my thumb for the camera, used to feel awkward as fuck, still does kinda.
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>>169390734
I imagine before the first flame there was no light or dark and there wasnt even time, fire probably brought time with it and when the first flame begins to fade even time itself starts breaking down and decaying.

Undead are drawn towards bonfires and only they can see them, hollows likely cant or do not care as they are without purpose.

Its possible bonfires can fuck with time somewhat, allowing the undead to ignore distance and time to move between bonfires they've lit\stoked or even reset the surrounding area and undo some of what they've done (Enemies reappearing, bridges no longer cut down) but then we have doors remaining opened which I'm gonna chalk up to gameplay reasons.

Bonfires assist the undead because theres a whole system in place to assist a chosen undead to link the first flame. Who set it up though is a mystery, maybe the pygmies? Gywn linked the first flame himself the first time so its not likely him.
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Trying to get my friends to summon me in corvian settlement. I'm not showing up for them at all. I've already completed the DLC has that got anything to do with it?
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>>169391282
Not for the first game.
The second and third are playable with K&M, but the first is barely playable.

>>169391585
And kicking/doing jumping attacks with the controller is a pain in the ass.

>>169391813
Sincerely, I doubt they put much thoughts in the bonfire, but maybe there's some time travel associated to it.
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>>169391849
Are you all using the same password?
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>>169391849
You can't summon phantoms to places you've already killed the area boss of.
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So after I asked a friend why Gwyn is still moving despite being all hollowed, he sent me that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zk75WJCwbw

I understand why Gwyn is still pissed years later.
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>>169391704
That sounds potentially more sensible than what I was doing...

I held B with thumb and hooked my index finger to the stick and then used my middle finger fro R1/2...it's just what I always panic reverted to in situations where I felt I needed to fight...and it looks so retarded.
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>>169391917
Yeah same password and settings. My other friend shows up for the dude, but I haven't at all. I've been doing summons all day though, so I don't have connectivity issues.
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>>169391990
You CAN be summoned though, even if you've beaten the area boss.
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I havent played das2 in forever and hexes feel like ass now. How do I make a good resonant soul build now?
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>Iron King was possessed by something from "below"
>One of the demons in the DLC is called "Demon from Below"
>Iron King kinda looks like the bat demons
>earthern peak is close to both the Iron King and the Demon Prince fight

Now hold on...
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>>169391915
>And kicking/doing jumping attacks with the controller is a pain in the ass.
I killed myself more times than I'm willing to admit with my Black Knight Sword when I went
>Heh, I'll just jumping R2 this fucker for a glorious one-shot
>Normal R2 comes out instead and begins it's 6 year quest to find the opponent
>Die

I really love my BKS that I found, but holy fuck that 6 year stab is stupid
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>>169392065
>40/40 int/fai
>use resonant soul

Its almost as if that required no thought at all
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>>169392291
And I raged a lot at Dark Souls 2 and 3.
>oh, that enemy is guarding
>better kick
>hits his shield instead
>get riposted
>died
>get the modded "YOU GOT SHREK'D, BITCH git gud scrub" death screen
>[INCOHERENT RAGE]
This is why I'm a shitter who only use R1 or roll+R1 or sprint+R1. When I try to use anything fancy, it backfires on me.
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>>169388791
yeah, that's one of their two practical uses, the other being a marker for invisible paths
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DS2 is a hunk of shit, wow. It's like I'm a literal tank trying to do my usual Mohammed Ali style on enemies. I had to stop once I hit Bastille, DS2 should have been redone entirely with SOTFS.
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>>169392462
The only tip I can give you is to keep your fingers on BOTH the stick and R2, it helped me a TON. I'm used to timing stuff by keeping my index finger off the trigger and then slamming it down in time with my analog motion for timing things in games, in DS2 the window is so narrow that it's better you're jerking both fingers while on the stick and button at the same time, or so I've discovered. But fundamentally it shouldn't matter, but for me it does somehow. I'm off by a fraction that somehow works just fine in other games and DS takes that fraction and shove it up my ass and out my mouth too look at it and make me cry
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>>169392619
In DaS3, I remember them doing a noise like glass breaking, but not screaming.
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>>169391738
the only anime that would fit a space souls is Blame!
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Final boss predictions for the DLC?
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>tfw you get reminded that dark souls 3 is the easiest souls game in the series

jesus fucking christ I'd forgotten how slow estus is in a proper souls game.

also what it meant to not be able to just roll through absolutely everything without effort.

why is DaS3 so fucking casual?
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>>169393043
>If Blame and BioMega had an author without SEVERE ADHD that he honestly stops caring about his works and just wants them to end and move on to something else (by his own admission) we could have had real endings
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>>169393093
It won't be something epic xD as rebbitors probably want, but I expect an atmospheric send off to the series. Maybe a lowkey lore bomb
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>>169393093
highlord wolnir round 2
he fell to the bottom of the abyss and now we follow him to finish the job
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>>169393093

I hope it's a cool dragon fight.
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>>169393195
>he fell for the bamco meme marketing
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>>169393093
the primordial hydra

it eats an item from your inventory every time you lose
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>>169393337
Its going to be a humanoid enemy that turns into a big manus style enemy
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Hey guys, I was looking to go and make a full sunbro help out build. I was thinking an ultra heavy weapon + Dorhy's Gnawing + a heal

What do you guys think?
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>>169393494
its actually Gundyr
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>>169393093
Oscar of Astora, the Dark Lord.
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>>169393279
>send off to the series.
Unless they said something new recently they flat out said 3 wasn't the last Dark Souls, but that they should probably end soon though because they can't keep releasing these every few years because it wouldn't be good for it to keep churning titles out endlessly or so, I forget the phrasing on how they didn't want to keep making it.
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>>169393835
For now it is the end.

Who knows what happens in 5 years
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Anyone on ps4 who wants to help me beat the shit out of the old Demon King while I try to keep cuckulus alive?
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>>169393931
I see a new quote from the president of From, so i think I know what you're talking about...but you have to realize that From never got any real attention until they made Dark Souls. Their company was always on the verge of folding until it. Their only moderate (and I do mean moderate) success was the Armored Core series.

Ending the Dark Souls series seems to be a really bad idea. But I know they have new IPs coming and they can semi-continue DS with BB...but still.

I mean did YOU guys hear about Fromsoft before Dark Souls? Look at their game history

Admittedly I was a fan of From before Dark Souls because of Armored Core, but I know most people didn't have any clue who they were
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since we're getting earthen peak and desert sorceress set, what are the chances that we'll get a snek tits cameo?
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>>169394403
From doesn't own Dark Souls dummy, Namco does and they don't like their policies anymore.
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>>169394403
>Admittedly I was a fan of From before Dark Souls because of Armored Core, but I know most people didn't have any clue who they were

Who gives a fuck what normies think, Armored core wwas great I hope they bring it back.


I also think that "From the creators of Dark Souls...." is enough to make normie slime spend their money
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what would happen if i put my dick inside the carthus sand worm?
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>>169394481
Namco may have the rights (I have no clue) but the devs are From and for them to let go of the series sounds like a terrible idea.
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>>169394586
It would be extremely painful.
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>>169394586
It'd be shocking to say the least.
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>>169394586
I'd beat the shit out of you for touching my wife.
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>>169394538
>I also think that "From the creators of Dark Souls...." is enough to make normie slime spend their money
You have a point, but that will only work so far if they fuck up and release some bad titles.

I really hope their new IPs are good.
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>>169394695
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>>169394678
So you're saying From should work under a boss they themselves said it was awful to work under just to keep the series alive when he company itself has a decent name now? That'd be incredibly stupid of them
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>>169394980
I'm afraid they won't be able to keep their decent name without DS and that some assholes are going to make DS4 instead of them and ruin shit for us.

I understand that bosses and corporate meddlers cause problems, we've heard all these stories before from all sorts of places in the industry, but DS did a lot for them and I don't want them AND us to lose something.

But if you have faith in them, then good man, kindle that extra hard for me because I need to feel better.
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>blue sentinels come INSTANTLY the moment you invade

Jesus christ. Where were these summons when I needed them?
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>>169390992
Ds2 isn't canon though
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>>169395525
You're not canon, fgt
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>pick up 2 again because of the event
>getting my shit pushed in by Pursuer because some hack at From thought it'd be a great idea to tie iframes TO A FUCKING STAT
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>>169395525
Ok, Loremaster
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Oh shit

Aldia isn't some deformed tree human

Aldia is a giant fuck of tree human head and a bit of shoulders peeking out
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>>169395859
You finally noticed it?
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>>169390456
>wiki
>being a relieable source

you know except when it isn't
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>>169395859
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>>169395898
yeah

fucking hell, no wonder he didn't make sense
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>all these shit souls 2 related posts
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>>169395779
welcome back to proper souls, Dark souls 3 rolling was a mistake especially at that low stamina cost
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>>169390456
Godhood is a self-appointed title in this setting. There are no true gods but the First Flame.

THAT SAID, Gwyn, his children and his knights ARE of a different substance than regular humans, since they apparently do not possess any Humanity
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>>169396167
>>169396167
>>169396167
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>>169396102
>community event in Dark souls 2
>surprised that people talk about dark souls 2

would you prefer talking about shit souls 3 and it's complete lack of build variety, shit casual mechanics and ass backwards level design with bonfires literally visible from each other, saving you ~10 seconds of sprinting?
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GOD DAMNIT

I want to buy the red soapstone but fuck if I do it will put me over 100,000 SM by 1500 AGGHHH I was so god damn close!!!
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>>169396268
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>>169392462
>>oh, that enemy is guarding
>>better kick
Literally never did this once because kick is so unreliable.

Just go two-handed and go mental on them until their guard breaks.

Or circle around behind and backstab

Or clang an attack then parry the punish
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>>169393043
Dark/Demon Souls is a Berserk fanfic.
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>>169396242
Thats just so you can warp from zone to zone and quickly queue up for an invasion.

Want to talk about DS2's big empty rooms with no props; or how the entire story was discarded as non-canon?
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>>169395426
>Join Blue Sentinels
>Die of old age
>Finally get summoned
>Okay, now where----
>Host has died
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>>169393464
What if all the Primordial Serpents are actually just a hydra and Frampt is Kaathe?
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>>169397541
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>>169397437
The worst was:

>get summoned to Corvian village
>Gotta get to the host before he dies!
>Run past corvian knight
>No time for stupid npcs to get in the way, I'll just run past him and up this ladder
>2 seconds later
>knocked off ladder
>dead
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>>169397723
Shut up and take my money
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>>169397281
>Thats just so you can warp from zone to zone and quickly queue up for an invasion

if it was an isolated incident you'd have a case, but there are so many bonfires in the game that are literally 10 seconds of sprinting apart, farron is particularly bad for this.


>or how the entire story was discarded as non-canon?
want to talk about earthen peak being in the next DLC?

or the fact that aldia is the guy that convinced lothric to not link the fire?

it's pretty clear to everyone that you're just a hatefilled faggot who gets fanny flustered anytime someone talks about dark souls 2
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>>169394369
If it's not too late, I can lend a hand.
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>>169397541
>>169397723

What if Frampt and Kaathe were like Catdog?
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