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Best Queen Edition

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)

>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB (embed)
To update: Never pick anything other than Morghur as Beastmen.
Necromancer heroes are top pick right now while raise dead is still broken as fuck.

>Empty Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>ACTUAL Total War News
If you've been living under a rock these past few months, Shortbrindal is free now.

We have battle map creating tools now. Only land battles and only for custom/custom mp games. Siege battles may be a possibility in the future but they're practically covering their ears and screeching at any mention of using modded maps to improve the campaign.
UPDATE: PEOPLE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT ANYWAY AND OUT OF DAMAGE CONTROL CA WILL BE ADDING OFFICIAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING CUSTOM MAPS TO THE CAMPAIGN ALONGSIDE THE BRETONNIA UPDATE

BRETONNIA IS 28TH OF FEBUARY:
[YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Bretonnia - In-Engine Cinematic Trailer (embed)
[YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Bretonnia - Campaign Let's Play (embed)

Warhammer is $12: https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
>Recent
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>Recent
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Suggested Mod Pack (You can pick and choose from the list, Suggested by anon):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576

Previous Thread: >>169279281
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I hope she is old friend
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general
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Is battle difficulty slider bugged in Warhammer?
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FUCKING WHEN
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>Bretonnians
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>>169323272

Are tomb kings ''evil''?
I thought that, with a few exceptions, they were a pretty chill faction.
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>no historic tw title for years
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ROME
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>>169323379
What the hell is this? A demon?
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Rock the boat!
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>>169323272
Can't wait to chase those fleshbags off my lawn
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>>169323590
How were those things called again?
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>>169323550
Settra is neutral and just wants everyone to serve him
Queen Khalida is the good one who allies herself with humies
All the others are assholes
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I want to die in Isabella's delicious thighs!
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
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>>169323757

Colloquially, towers of silence

Idk what the official Zoroastrian term is
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>>169323550
They're neutral and have actually helped the Empire fight against the Vampire Cunts.

Generally, they just don't like anybody fucking around on their turf and will take any opportunity to give the vamps the knob
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>>169323550
They're neutral in the best sense of the word.

They're an ancient empire with all that that entails, they're ruthless assholes who think everyone should bow to them, but they're not really evil. They're like wood elves or lizardmen in that they're isolationists who generally only venture outside their territory if they feel someone else has something that belongs to them.
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>>169323550
They're pretty much the most "neutral" race except for maybe the Ogres. All that most of them care about is trying to restore their lost kingdoms or former lives in some shape or form. On occasion they'll bully the nearby Araby. Arkhan is only evil if you think Nagash is evil (spoiler: he's not).
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westeros total war, development for fucking years

https://youtu.be/kBsVwYeLXQk

when will these fuckers release the mod
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>>169323963
Meh. Everybody's armies are the same thing. ASOIAF works best in CK2 as the politics are what make it interesting.
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>>169323118
>Best Queen

More like best beastman cocksleeve.

>F to pay respects
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>>169323951
>Nagash
>Not evil
Explain.
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>>169324145
Nagash isn't the enitre Tomb Kings faction.
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hey texturefriend. which dds do I have to replace to get my custom decal on the shields?
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>>169323963

Hopefully never, because ASOIAF isn't about wars
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>>169324281
You're right. On a related note: does anybody know much about Karl Franz's tax policies?
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>>169324267
But that's not what the anon he was responding to said, he said specifically that Nagash isn't evil.

Which is flat out wrong. Although I'm expecting some apologist rambling about entropy and shit.
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ALLAUH AKBAR
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>>169323908
>Nine species of vulture can be found living in India, but most are now in danger of extinction
>s recently as the 1980s there were up to 80 million white-rumped vultures (Gyps bengalensis) in India; but today the population numbers only several thousand.

>The cause of the rapid plunge in the population was initially unclear, but in 2003 was traced to the anti-inflammatory drug diclofenac, which is lethal to vultures when they consume the carcasses of dead animals treated with it.

DAMN SON
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>>169323247
>400 turns
wew lad

>>169323118
I hope Kislev is the old friend
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>>169323712
Its Alarielle the former everqueen of high elves who became goddess of life in age of sigmar.
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>>169324145
He's a bit of a tyrant but he hates the Chaos Gods and seeks to destroy them, wishing to become the supreme god of spooky. He allied with the forces of order in the End Times and everyone would have been saved were it not for Mannlet von Carstein backstabbing everyone.
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>>169324454
The old friend is going to be advisor-senpai available for all factions.
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I notice that some people are saying that rare/special/core army limits, like in the tabletop, should be put in the game.

This "army only consisting of elite troops" has occured in other total war games, but it's more apparent in warhammer since most factions now have an option for things like elite armour piercing infantry, and with no restrictions on what units people can bring, it naturally gravitates towards the high tier stuff since they do well against everything.

The problem is that putting arbitrary restrictions on what players can put in their army probably wouldn't feel that great for players, who would wonder why they can put 4 greatswords in an army just fine but when it gets to 5 it suddenly becomes a problem. It's not really that intuitive given that the only restrictions previously have been upkeep and recruitment availability.

So, what I suggest is that total war gets rid of the 20 unit limit for armies, and instead has a supply limit with separate limits for different troop types that can be increased through technology or general skills. In this case, more elite, rare or special units naturally require more maintenance or equipment, which can be abstracted into needing more supplies. Factions that rely on large numbers of shitty units get more supply for them and so can get lots of them without feeling like you're gimping your army just to feel more thematic. Stuff like greenskin WAAGH's can now just increase the supply of your lord so you can bring a ton more units into your army and really bring the green tide rather than having a silly AI army follow you around. There's now an incentive to build balanced armies in terms of unit cost and units see use across the entire lifespan of a campaign rather than getting phased out once better ones come in. Plus, early on, everyone can have a bit reduced supplies so that the whole game doesn't mostly consist of fighting 20 vs 20 stacks

There are problems but I've ran out of characters to write
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>>169324720
>Chaos worshiper to all factions
No.
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>>169324109
>>More like best beastman cocksleeve.

Please explain. It's been years since I stopped to follow what has happened in WHFB
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>>169324662

>He's a bit of a tyrant
>A bit of a tyrant
>A bit
>A FUCKING BIT

HOLY SHIT

Let me just quote Heinrich Kemmler here.

>"And what greater prospect do I have in Nagash's service, a future of mindless servitude in an unchanging world? The Great Necromancer is a selfish child. Though assured of his power, he remains forever terrified that another will take it from him. He will not be satisfied until his is the only will in existence, for only then can he be safe."
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>>169324269
I copypasted dwf_dwarf_warriors_shield_decal_01_(all of them + a gloss layer, which is not specifically defined) and loaded them instead of the vanilla ones on my custom .rigid_model_v2 file (copypasted from the vanilla one)

If you don't know how to edit .rigid_model files, this all sounds weird as fuck
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>>169324758
A seperate limit on each bretonnian infantry unit in MP could be more balanced. It's kinda no-fun allowed though.
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>>169324662
>The Chaos Gods lose when everybody is a skeleton

Sounds like some North-Korean policy
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>>169324758
The problem really is that anything more than 20 units starts to become extremely cumbersome to micro, not to mention hard for most machines to handle.
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>>169324884
they truly are the jews of the warhammer world
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>Actually planning on revamping the Roman recruitment later, possibly in that next release. For some reason I done goofed and thought that everyone else had a more diffused recruitment among multiple buildings when in fact they (even before I reformed them) usually just have 2 tracks + 1 for minor cities for easterners, 2 tracks for nomads, and for barbars it's a little confusing. So the Romans are not advantaged but disadvantaged with the needless bureaucracy of their building trees.

>I"m not sure what form it will take just yet. I'm curious if we can't replicate the easterner 2 building trees (foot vs cav) and 1 minor hybrid of the two. So it could be for Romans:

>Minor Building Tree (provincal settlements that are not the capital) limits you to foederati, limitanei, pseudocomitatenses and -maybe- Comitatenses at the highest level.
Major Building Tree A (capital of province/region) could be a duplicate of Minor and designed around fast and cheap building.
Major Buidling Tree B (capital of province/region) could start off Comitatenses and go Palatina and be more expensive and slower to build.

>Could do Major-A being infantry and Major-B Being cavalry with no distinction to Limitanei, Comitatenses, Palatina - that would just come about from tier.

Meloncat 11 may 2016

RIP
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>not joining the tournament for a chance to win the Fist of Franz
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>>169324884
Seconded.
Setthra was arrogant but at least he had a totally normal vision what he wanted to do.
Nagash literally did it because he is a power hungry paranoid asshole.
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>>169325061
Yeah, performance and micro becomes a problem with large numbers of units
Another option is to allow arbitrary unit sizes so you can bring 500 gobbos in a unit if you want, but that would also cause problems with pathfinding and probably balance issues as well
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>>169323272
>That barbarian and witch coming out of the sarcophagus.
>"Oh shit, the fight's already started."
>"Told you we didn't have time for a quickie even if we did it right in this sarcophagus."
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>>169324885
yeah, alright. How did you replace the actual decal though. I have the three files opened in GIMP2 and am at a loss now.
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sale when holy fuck
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>>169325496
When the new world edition is announced
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>>169324832
Unless it was changed, at the fall of Kislev during the End Times, Franz offered Katarina to retreat to the Empire but instead she stayed for a gallant last stand. At the end they were overwhelmed by beastmen and she was taken captive.

It's obvious what happens after that.
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>>169325496

The game is fucking 12 bucks right now what do you want?
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WARHAMMER ROLL CHART PLEASE
I want to do the fastest playthrough I've ever done before the new update hits.
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>>169325496

It's on sale for 12 dollars right now you dimwit. DLC sale fucking never
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>Shogun 2: Falling Bakufu
>About to crush those Obama fucking shits, one province left, army on the run
>Corner them against the coast, about to push them into the sea with my two grand Imperial armies
>Lord defects!
>Takes most of my arty with him

OBAAAAAMAAAA YOU MADE ME A RACIST
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>>169323925
>they are isolationist

prepare for skeletton hilter to conquer half the map when they are released
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>>169324662
You realize the moment he beat chaos he would immediately enslave the entire world right? Though the powers existing at the time might have made that difficult.
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>>169325623

> Imperial
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>>169324832
In the newest edition, Kislev was sacked by a band of khornate beastmen, and the queen was raped by 20 minotaurs
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What are some strats for playing WElfs as a skirmisher army and not as a "Historical" army. I'm interested in the idea but cold never get it down, it seemed like my men could always be reached by the enemy, and if I tried encircling the enemy with archers I was raped by cavalry. Any ideas/methods that work?
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>>169325978
Joke is she didn't die from it, but later giving birth to the rape beastbaby.
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>>169325978
Implied or (basically) outright stated?
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>>169326094
Did they kill it? Did she survive the birth?
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>>169325419
basically:
>replacing the _diffuse texture will change the shape of the decal
>tweak the _normal map to give it depth (or to remove the vanilla one)
>draw a rough shape of your decal on the _specular decal (copypasting the Ironbreaker one just works)
>you can give it gloss, but there's no vanilla texture (4characters + _gloss_map)
And that should be it (you can use Ironbreaker shields instead, which have 3 different decals by default)

Of course, unless you create your own _rigid_models and load your custom textures from there, you will be replacing the vanilla ones for every faction

If you know nothing about _rigid_model edition, prepare for a very wild ride
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FUCKING WHEN
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>>169326359
the fuck is this
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>>169326225
I just said she died from it. Women usually don't suvive birthing beastbabies, and definitely not minotaur ones. As for the fate of the beastbaby, who knows.

Could imagine a cruel joke on GW part, if AoS hadn't been the canon ending, that a special minotaur with ice powers could have shown up.
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why are the campaigns in WH so easy?

i just bought it and in my first easy playthrough i was Durthu and i conquered the entire western half of the map in a couple hours

then i played as the Azhag on normal and conquered the entire southern portion of the map after 1 day of playing

i just started a crooked moon campaign on hard, is it easy too? should i just play on VH every time now?
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>>169326359
>Morghast Harbinger

This is too retarded to be anything but ET.
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>horsefuckery intensifies
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>>169326221
Beastmen kidnap women to have their wicked way with them. If the Tzarina gets caught, and it doesn't state they kill her, then the implication is clear.
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>>169326531
>Play on easy
>Hurr game is easy

Yes you should always be playing on Very Hard.
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Repost from a previous thread:

Are there any other Total War let's plays out there that are as good and autistic as OfficialDevin's ones?
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>>169326498
Aw what a shame.
On the other hand irl Catherine the Great sure like horses.
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>>169325169
that'd be the dawi
have you seen their noses man? and their treasuries?
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>>169326531

>Starting out on easy

Nigger have you not played a video game for the last 10 years?

It's the year 2017, you should fucking know by now that Easy is for people who have never touched a mouse before
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>>169326613
Das it mane

Just wait until you get them all hagbane tips that slow the enemy down.
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>>169326914
Indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE
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>When Kislev has the largest Empire pre-Chaos

Something bittersweet in knowing it will all be destroyed.
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>>169326982
I was using them. Felt good to purge the entirety of Norsca with that, running circles around marauders with 122 speed and hagbane tips.
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>>169326657
>>169326914
well i didn't know how different WH would be compared to past TW's
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>>169325825
No one can die if everyone is dead

>>169324884
> taking advice from literally Himmler
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>>169327007
Is that actual footage recorded by Polygon?
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>>169327126
Are you implying older TWs are hard on easy too?
>>169327186
Yes.
Yes it fucking is.
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>>169327186

Yup

They put that shit on their website and it wasn't even supposed to be a joke or anything
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>>169326253
thanks.
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>Lore of Metal actually getting a buff
>Wood Elves won,t conquer the entire western side of the map anymore
Thank fucking lord
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>savage orcs getting extra 10% on physical resist
Were they that bad or?
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>>169327223
>Are you implying older TWs are hard on easy too?
well no but the magic involved, and the small unit sizes really threw me off

ive never played anything HW related prior to buying TW:WH
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>>169325834
Even the noble Samurai must abide by the most powerful and constant law of the universe:

All things that begin, must end.

The Samurai are no more. Now must rise a new era!
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>>169327305
Looks like plague of rust is good now. Not sold on the rest of it though.
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N E V E R
E V E R

It hurts so bad
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>>169327401
>he never played Chess with cheating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB4A8I1Oh1E
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>>169327558
Is that Cao Cao?
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>>169327558
I always knew Cao Cao was a fantasy
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>>169327618
>>he never played Chess with cheating
ive never played chess
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>>169327395
They do huge damage but most of it is non-AP and so they don't do so well against stuff that isn't low tier.
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>>169327558
EVER
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>>169323351
I heard it is, specifically that it's been known by CA to have been bugged for months and is still fucked.
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Ru-ro

What do?
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>>169327395

They are bad in campaign because they are useless against Dwarfs
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>>169328369
Muster the men. Don't appear weak.
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G O B L I N S
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>>169327558
CA already giving bretonnia new units that never found on tabletop (bless trebuchet, hippogryph knight) they definitely gonna do it.
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>>169328706
And best unit
Peasants mob!
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>>169328574

Looks like it worked with mixed results
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>There are goat men.
>Bull men.
>Horse men.
>Lizard men.
>Rat men.
>Fungus men. Kinda. Sort of.
>Even strigoi are kinda bat men.
>But there are no werewolves.

The fuck GW?
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>>169328706
Cathay has far less to draw on than Bretonnia does, they're barely a footnote in the lore.
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What difficulty do you guys play at?
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>>169328957
Beastmen have wolf claws.
You also have Ultric worshippers.
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>>169328957
There are werewolves, they're just uncommon.
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>>169329103
Very hard/Hard
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>>169328957
Would they just be another breed of beastmen or some kind of species from Sylvania? Or something completely different?
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>>169328947
They want easy money, they're not going to invade just because of payment.

Your troops can eat shit for a little bit.
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>>169329103
Legendary but i hate lack of slow mo.
Wish i could have both.
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SMELLY, DUMB, VAMPIRE SCUM
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>>169324885
>>169325581
>>169325978
>>169326094
Holy shit I never thought I would be fapping to /twg/ shit
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>>169329075
CA might have a chance by selling their souls to /tg/ for a solution.
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>>169329242
Man it could be an ability for ulrics priests,empire would finally get their monster unit
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>>169329103
normal
just working my way up and I could probably do hard easily enough but I'm autistic and gotta finish all the campaigns on normal first
Do things even change that much as difficulty goes up? I almost never see the AI use any high tier units and I've only ever seen Beastmen use basic spearmen and raiders
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>>169326253
hey senpai, can you make those textures for me?
I will credit you in my mod.
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>>169328957
>Strigoi are kinda bat men
>Strigoi Ghoul King
>THE Bat man

Bringing justice to the old world.
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>>169328957
>>169329242
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Werecreatures

There's two main kinds of werewolves, the norscan ones which are basically just a chaos mutation, and the rest which can come from curses or birth. It doesn't seem to affect their minds or anything, just their bodies.
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>>169329367
>Holy shit I never thought I would be fapping to /twg/ shit
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>>169329581
She's summoning my Elector Count, if you know what I mean.
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>>169329581
Looks like my Skyrim sloot
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>>169329497
I have most of them done as it is, I don't mind sharing them, but I may release them myself in the future too
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>>169329581
>Armour that completely expose your belly
Wow women are dumb
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>>169328957
Brunner, Bounty Hunter, killed a werewolf who was actually some priestess who had been cursed by a witch. He also killed skaven, beastmen, brettonians, a tomb king, and a dragon
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>>169328957
>>There are goat men.
>>Bull men.
>>Horse men.

I also find it weird that the beastmen are this race of aggressive, war-like animal men, and they're all human versions of herbivores. No predators, no claws, just hooves and horns, and farm animals.
Wouldn't it make more sense to see a horde of panther-men and hyena-men and wolf-men descending on your forces instead of stuff you can milk and shear?
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>>169330071
alright.
I am gonna make an attempt by rejigging flags from the UI icons.
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>Gobbo Archers
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FUCKIJNG WHEN
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>>169330235
To be fair, all of them eat meat. I guess the real common theme is just hooves. Except for harpies.
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>>169330235
That's the point. It's a cruel joke make by the Chaos
>>169328957
There are werewolves in first Gotrek and Felix book.
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>>169330226
Well he was pretty much whfb batman
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>>169330235
Goats and bulls are fucking mean.
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ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT FUCKING WHEN!
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>>169330226
>slaying dragons
What a waste
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>>169330298
Added you in Steam in the case you want to include them anyways
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>play beastmen
>ambushing empire armies
>battles are over in seconds as they rout instantly
man this is amazing
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>>169330621
yeah, I wondered what the aggravating smiley face was all about.
Tell you what, I will use your pack after you are done releasing your mod.
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>>169330735
When i saw 17 bux pricetag i routed on the spot.
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>>169330235
The joke is that the actual carnivore/predator beastmen are a lot more restrained/have more self control. They're not the perpetually raging poo poo pee pee monsters.
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>>169330573
He didn't really kill the dragon, he was just trying to take control of the dragon so he could get revenge on some bret noble who fucked him. He did it after fighting with a Blood Knight, High Elf magician, Dwarf Mercenary, and some Wizard and Brettonian knights. Guy is a real cold killer.
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>>169330864
Wait, where is this described?
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>>169330829
if you wanna outjew CA you can just pirate it
That's what I did
I have every other DLC though
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>>169330971
IRL predators are good at hunting because they well...they know to stalk prey etc?
Calculated carnivore is a successful carnivore.
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>Wood Elves and Chaos allied
>Grimgor refuses to confederate

Dis stinks
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>>169330971
Wherever the local beastmen are predominantly predators rather than prey animals, their manner of war is much more refined and strategic, with care and observation and planning.

Compared to the bulls, goats, and horse men who just go in an endless cycle of rage and hate and chimp out at the nearest humans when they get bored.
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>>169330864
The females are also described as shy and gentle. I choose to believe that they look like pic related
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>>169331269
Yes, but is the predatory beastmen thing actually canon or no? Because I know how actual predators act you dingus.

The reason the meme men act like the poopoopeepees they are, is because they are basically fantasy celts and barbarians who were mindless savages with no culture and a hardon for raping civilization.

>>169331396
If there's a source for that it's pretty rad at least.
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>>169330881
>Blood&Steel
>Blood Money
>Blood of the Dragon
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>>169331396
Reminds me of when Russians tried to make The Island of Doctor Moreau into a game.
>>169331407
So Beastmen are muslims?
You could finally say fucking goats has a meaning
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>>169330971
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm just saying this because I recently had a burst of autism and ended up reading all the tabletop source material for Shadowrun. I'm talking lore, sourcebooks, handbooks, guides, the whole lot.
This also happened to me with World of Darkness, Dungeons and Dragons, Star Wars:EU and other nerdy shit I pour embarrassing amounts of time into.

So by the time I type this he's gonna answer your question and I can see myself spending the whole weekend reading Warhammer shit. Also probably next week too.
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>>169330971
One of the few bits of lore of Ind at least, most of the beastmen there are jungle predators like tigers and leopards, and they're more like noble bandits rather than raiding brigand pillaging rapists. They're even somewhat cultured, wear clothes and have/make proper armaments, and have their own developed societies in the jungles.
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EAT SHIT, YOU SPIKEY FUCK
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>>169331407
People also often forget that like normal gender ratios, female beastmen are just as numerous as male beastmen, they just aren't the ones eveyone knows and sees raiding towns, since they're back at camp in the forests, taking care of the young and the human captives.
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>>169331407
>Ywn murder all the beastmen and take the beastmen wives to live happily with you
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>>169331828

I'd probably get assassinated by those elf titties too.
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>>169331739
The problem with Beastmen is that they're inherently chaotic beings and as such they never get much in the way of doing things besides stuff that Chaos would. Does the noble savage thing still stand up when their entire purpose of being is to burn civilisation to the ground?
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>>169331953
>Beastmen are literally grimdark Jay Naylor
Thanks senpai
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>>169331828
>Dem titties

She can assassinate me as long as she likes.
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>>169325978
Source?
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>>169331828
Yeah, just gonna say she's got a real fuckin' great rack as well.
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High Elves when?
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>>169331828
>You will never be a qt bretonnia shota kidnapped by wood elves and forced to milk those tits for eternity
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Is it worth it to replace all my Ungor Raiders with Cygors?
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>>169332426
Yes ungor are shit replace with Gors and minotaurs ASAP
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>>169328639
G
O
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I
N
S
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>>169332426
>Cygors

Make it hail, anon
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>>169332262
>not sending best pieces of ass to parley and/or assassinate for you
Are you stupid or something
>>169332354
You will never be a Brettonnian knight saving qt dawi princess and give her a ride on your horse while she twirls her beard and back hair
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>>169332426
>Bestigors
>GW Minotaurs
>Cygors

There it is. That's your army. At most get some centigors, maybe even some harpies for when you need faster/flying stuff.
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>>169330504

Not enough troop types t be a full army
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>>169331468
Actually it's an ongoing lore detail that probably the biggest reason beastieboys are angry is because of all the parasites they're infested with, all the lices, fleas and ticks on their bodies and the flies and stuff around their camps annoys them to rage. It's hinted that's why some other types of beastmen aren't as perpetually raging, because they go to the greater lengths to keep clean, while the beastmen we all know and love shit everywhere and are filthy.

The other main reason is just standard testosterone flow, leading to violent tendencies and hornyness.

So yeah, kind of a joke in the lore, that the things that make the beastmen the most mad, is their own bodies and living style first and foremost, and the influences of chaos and their hatred of civilization second.
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Any of the Warhammer dlc worth it? Wood elves and beast men are pretty fucking pricey. Already have blood pack and chaos faction.
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>>169332650
>Implying Bretonnian scum will allow Dawito ride their horses
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>>169330504
Chaos Dwarfs never ever
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Which dwarf infantry should I use for chaos? Right now I'm using straight Longbeards, do I want to switch like 4 out with the Great Weapons version?
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>>169332902
Keep your shield longbeards and replace your ranged with Thunderers. You can replace your grudgethrowers with great cannons if you want.

Dorfs win through superior firepower.
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>>169332867
Everything except blood.

>>169332902
Hammerers and thunderers for that AP damage
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>>169332971
Oh also great weapon rangers will absolutely shit on Chaos if you flank with them.
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>>169332874
>fucking my daughter
GRUDGE
>refusing to fuck her because beard
GRUDGEEEEEEEEE
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>>169332072
Beyond the Old World it's not as cut and dry with beast men. They are always chaos related, but they're not always so savage and chaos behaving.
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>>169329581
she should be in goblin slayer manga.
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>>169332650
Dwarf women in Warhammer don't have beards.
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>>169330342
is in the game already
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>>169333523
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>>169333564
How do you know.
Show me a picture.
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I fucking love Attila
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>>169332674
well it seems to be working

Outriders are annoying to chase though
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>>169333660

http://totalwarwarhammer.gamepedia.com/Dwarf_bride
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>>169333564
Pretty sure there's a prominent female dwarf character from one of the books, and she doesn't have a beard.
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>>169333731
Thats not official canon picture, its CA stuff.
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>>169333660
Instead of beards, women braid their hair into long plaits. There's also the dwarf bride retainer you can get in the game.
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>>169333846
This thicc enough for you?
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>>169333881
Do Dawi not have legs or something?
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>>169333934
Lets see....nah.
Halflings are thicker.
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>>169333646

> Check source

GOBBOS ARE FUCKING SCUM
KILL ALLL GOBBOS
NEVER SUFFER A GOBBO TO LIVE
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>>169323272
Where does TK excel in?
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>>169334807

Well said friend.
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>Orion, The King In The Woods, has issued a proclamation throughout Athel loren denying his resemblance to Mel Gibson.

Holy fuck CA, that's some good shit
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>>169333646
can gobo slayer defeat the kunning goblin big boss skarsnik and his eight peak loonies?
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>>169334895
chariots and poison archers
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>>169335018
Depends on the squig.
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>>169335018
that's what durthu is there for.
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>>169334807
Good lad.
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>>169335157
also the spiders. Gobos love spiders, especially the rape machine known as arachnorak.
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>>169334895

The toughest monsters in the entire Warhammer Universe, literally made out of stone.

Homing arrows that always hit on a fixed %, effectively negating any form of deflection/cover.

Ambush Units that can literally come out of the fucking ground wherever you want them.

Decent magic, specifically have access to Lore of Light.
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>>169335179
didn't get the joke.
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>>169335280
It's a shame they didn't use any of the special araknaroks from the tabletop, instead just a nondescript araknarok queen.

>tfw no Stompin' Cobb
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WARHAMMER LL ALIGNMENT CHART:

EMPIRE
Volkmar: Lawful Good
Karl Franz: Neutral Good
Balthasar Gelt: Neutral
Boris Todbringer: Chaotic Neutral

GREENSKINS:
Wurrzag: Chaotic Neutral
Skarsnik: True Evil
Grimgor: Chaotic Evil

VAMPIRE COUNTS:
Vlad: Lawful Neutral
Ghorst: Neutral Evil
Mannfred: Chaotic Evil
Kemmler: Chaotic Evil

DWARFS:
Thorgrim: Lawful Good
Ungrim: Chaotic Good
Belegar: Lawful Neutral

BEASTMEN:
Khazrak: Neutral Evil
Malagor: Chaotic Evil
Morghur: Chaotic Evil

BRETONNIA:
All Lawful Good

CHAOS:
All Chaotic Evil
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>>169335506
Khalida is the only Lawful Good character in the setting.
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>>169335506

>fay enchantress
>lawful good

nah
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>>169334617

>no source
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>>169334807
I think goblins are cute!
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Now to convert...
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>>169336110
>filename
Alfie by incase.
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>>169328957
If Norscan factions ever get fleshed out, we could get Skin Wolves.
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>>169335506
Skarsnik is Lawful Good. He's a protector of goblins.
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>>169328957
>ratmen

Uh-huh. Next you'll tell me they walk upright and infest our sewers.
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>>169333715
same here
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>>169336502
They do. They absolutely do.
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>>169336643
AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT, SALTZPYEE? THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T GET INVITED TO THE INQUISITION FESTAG PARTIES ANYMORE.
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>>169336851
The Ratmen will destroy the moon and invade our cities if you don't do something soon!
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>>169336905

Fuck off Saltzpyre, you're getting senile.
>>
Anyone else playing the Total war arena closed alpha? I wonder why they removed manual deployment. Now you randomly spawn somewhere on the map and push or reposition yourself.
Spear units now have Phalanx skill, 6 second set up time - The unit enters Phalanx formation, creating an intimidating wall of spears and shields, allowing them to keep any enemy at bay as long as they are not too fatigued. Can't use when; [Negatives] Shield drops, Turn Speed -80%, Speed -20% and melee attack -5% [Positives] Phalanx fatigue regeneration rate while moving backwards +12, Phalanx fatigue increase +1 per attack and melee dmg +20%. It's weak against side and back flanks so morale loss disables the skill. Anyone can retreat with that 6 second time window and kite.
Sword units got a Throw Pila skill as a ranged attack but only has 2 charges. Nothing major considering swords have a ranged attack on the steam version back then but not everyone knew of the alternative fire
Artillery got changed to having to manually fire it and you can assemble/disassemble any time to reposition easily.
All cavalry have a charge skill and 3 archer stacks are less of a threat if you land it. There is still a problem; even if you contribute the most on your team, you may not win because you can't perfectly carry bad or afk players.
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>>169331269
Did it got eaten?
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>>169328706
except the map leaked dont expend far east enough for cathay
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>>169336305
Ooooh thats some nice models there.
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>>169335157
speaking of squigs

when one eat you are you instantly digested ? i mean gobba get killed from the Inside by a skaven , so why cant anyone else can kill a squig from Inside ?
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>>169330235

Its to reflect.the satanic goat imagery. Herbivores with predatory features looks a lot more freaky to the human psyche which reinforces their mutant look
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>>169337281
I think that skaven was also half melted when he crawled out, so there's probably some rapid dissolving process.
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>>169337003
who let him join the inquisition anyway ? that guy is way too unstable , next thing you know he will ask for peoples to burn a town cause he saw "rat-mens" in it
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>>169337281
Some anon probably has some fluff on it but idimagine its not specified for obvious reasons- you just roll with it.
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>>169328369
>>169328947

This is making me want to start an AoC campaign and bring the word of Islam to Europe
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>>169337760
Dont bother.
It will happen on its own after a while.
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>black coach buffs
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Okay, I have no idea what to do right now as this is my first real TW campaign.
Started on Hard as Dorfs with Grombrindal, empire went down about turn 90 and i'm at about turn 130 with only two complete provinces and like 4 more scattered cities. Just had my armies scattered to the winds by the chaos hordes but was able to break them at the same time. The next wave is coming and I got chaos agents fucking everywhere with corruption getting as high as 40 in some cities. Undead is also strong as fuck so i'm hoping that the two destroy each other while the dorf friends can get some turns finish the orcs.
Should I just restart and try again or finish through? If I restart legit what should I be doing? I feel like i'm wasting many turns sitting around and i'm getting too many money making buildings and tech rather than advancing the military.
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>>169337003
Sigmar bless his ravaged body.
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>>169338473
As dwarfs you can steamroll early game greenskins and should be doing exactly that. Expand up north until you get rid of all greenies there, then push south until it's all DWARF'D
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>>169337076
Who says there can't be a Eastern few colonies here or there around the southeast part of the map?
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>>169328947
name of mod?
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i hope when they add the skavens , they also adapt the fact that their technology can literraly explode in their face , either as some sort of rng or overusage
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>>169338784
that would be right in the middle of the ogres kingdom , i dont think anyone in Cathay would be insane enough to try to make a settlement there
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>>169338623
How often should I be pushing for confederation? I'm missing a lot of provincial bonuses because of the asshole friends taking one city out of a province.
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>>169339057
Confederation comes easy for dwarfs but don't overdo it early on because they can can fuck you up with order and income
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>>169338947
I meant southeast, not east. The Ogre Kingdoms lie in the Mountains of Moarn, not everywhere east of the Grey Mountains

Also iirc this is what the geheimnisnacht mod for ck2 does so that there's playable cathayans
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>>169339113
I think I was overdoing it with my infrastructural buildings in the first place so I could probably handle the strain.
Maybe I can come back.
How many armies should I build if I want to clean sweep through the 2nd chaos wave and turn 130 Vamp Counts?
And what should I prioritize with research?
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>>169335506
also:
Nagash: PURE PURE EVIL
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>>169339172
i guess it could be possible on the northern part of that red line , South part is tomb king territory and some middle of nowhere dwarf hold
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>>169339172
That location is occupied in the lore and it's not by Cathay, hint.

I'm not saying you couldn't have the eastern factions, but if they end up in the game it'll be as foreign expeditionary forces or mercenaries, not settlements.
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>>169339172
I meant Worlds Edge Mountains instead of Grey Mountains btw. Too much Bretonnia hype for me
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>>169337076
What happens here?
>There's no Dark Elf or High Elf settlements (all further North)
>Human New World settlements are further south in not-Central America
>Lizards are even further south in Lustria
DE books have shrines and mention Orc and Goblin tribes??
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>>169339689
Delf country.
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>>169339689
Beastmen, greenskins and human tribes as far as I'm aware
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>>169337956
debuff really; no way you're gonna be keeping it in melee for 45/90/135 continuous seconds
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>>169339689
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>>169339689
MURICA rule by DARK ELVES

dark elves are burger. MAKE NAGGAROTH GREAT AGAIN!! They also build towers defend against chaos in the north so think about that for a sec.
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>>169326359

End Times stuff is basically the early Age of Sigmar, so not belong really in WHFB videogame, as stated also by CA.
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>>169340119

>Warhammer is made by Brits
>Super special mary sue race lives in an island nation
>Evil dumb rebels from the glorious kingfom move to America to be evil and greedy there.

Really makes you think.

>>169340342

Fuckign based
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>>169339775
No Delf cities there. Delfs are settled around Hudson Bay to the North.
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>>169340119
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>>169337041
interesting anon, was manual deployment removed from when you started or is that a recent cahnge?

does that mean ALL sword units and ALL spear units anon?, like short spears can 'phalanx' and all swords get pilas? seems an odd design choice.

as for artillery, you just ended up manually firing in the steam version anyway for maximum cheese so that's not too suprising, can it still bombard a location still?, ala set a zone for it to autoattack?

the last problem was something that was inherent.

thanks for posting anyway anon not sure if you are still around But I really enjoyed arena. Any sign of new leaders/races yet?

>>169338819
yeah I was sort of sad there is no misfire mechanics so far (except for magic) , maybe a flat % chance of hurting itself when it fires would be the best ca would do?
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>>169340635
but they also build defenses against chaofag in the north. Like building defensive towers and forcing slaves to fight for them.
>>
PEGASUS KNIGHTS!
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>>169330235

They are only herds that want to fuck and eat, is an old human myth of "be a beast with no morale"
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>>169339793
>greenskins
Maybe Grom flew there and that's why no ones heard from him since the Ulthaun invasion failed?

There's a big gap of nothing there with no lore fleshed out that CA will have to do something with.
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>>169341154
Didn't Grom get tortured to death and fed bits of himself by that one High Elf prince?
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>>169341253
>Believing elf propaganda
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>>169330235
beastman is based on pagan shit. They often proclaim they are the child of chaos because it is a reference to pagan been the early religion. Pagan god has the look of goat face which is why there are so many beastman with goat horns. Animal mutations like panther and hyena are not common because they are africa animal. It might be possible to have panther and hyena beastman for their Lustia counter part.
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>>169341364
There are tiger beastmen and shit in Ind.
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>>169341154
Later editions settled the Delves further south so they occupy most of Canada and the northern US, but there's still a massive gap of nothing in Mexico.
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>>169341253
He escaped the battlefield and hasn't been heard of since. The Elf commando raid story to find him after the battle isn't canon I don't think.
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Does something trigger Archaon's arrival? I've been waiting for like 30 turns for him to show up and start steamrolling and as far as I can tell the warriors of chaos have been sitting around getting their asses kicked since they haven't destroyed any factions and one of their stacks looked pathetic.
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I play with large unit size. Is the game better with medium unit size? (warhammer)
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>>169341607
Needs more mountains desu
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So I'm out raiding Bretonnia with Orion, sacking a settlement when the beastmen posture in from of Athel Loren. So I way root Orion over, just in range of Khazrak and bring my lone lrod that was sitting in my base over to actually initiate the battle. We beat them up ez pz, so I tell this guy to start walking back to my city. End turn. Khazrak, who is at half hp from the battle, runs over to my lord and "ambushes" him so I can't retreat. I fight it out anyways cause, what the hell. I'm greeted with a little cut scene of my lord walking in an open plain then suddenly beastmen spawn behind him. I run shoot run shoot khazrak down and fucking kill him. At this point the gors have caught up and I can't get away, so I just watch the melee. I get to watch my lord for a good 2 minutes do backflips and other ninja shit against the gors, killing most of them and causing them to route. The ungors realize they dont have a chance and run away too.

Is there ANYTHING more pathetic than beastmen?
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>watching Ninjahund stream earlier
>thought I was a unit called Royal Pegasus Archers

Did I just misread?
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>>169323118
Mavia >>> Katarin
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i cant wait till every one gets fucked by Big Bretonnian Cock, i mean even their infantry is shaping up to be bretty damn good.
Removing woodelf is going to feel so damn good
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Fucking Norscans stop fighting me I'm Everchosen REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>169342679

Who's more pathetic, Archaon the evercucked or Mannlet von Carstein?
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>>169338473
Dwarves in general are deceptive as far as campaign difficulty goes. That said, you seem to have done pretty well to get through the start of the chaos invasion.

The dwarves should have corruption reducing buildings they can create to help get deal with the corruption, I haven't played them much so I'm not as sure about their agents, but you can try using your own agents to assassinate theirs. I would suggest at least trying to reach your victory conditions.
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>>169343398
Take off your trip
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>>169342553
Compared to whose exactly? Are squires and assorted men at arms better then state troops with a full honest steel buff from a general? All memes and trash talk aside I worry that Bretonnia may wind up with self-same problem that all cavalry focused factions have in total war games, severe difficulty in taking walls.
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>>169337281
>gobba get killed from the Inside by a skaven

Sure why not. I fucking hate The End Times. Name a famous hero from WHFB and there's a pretty good chance a ~~~skaven assassin~~~~ kills them because.
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>>169344040
>Thorgrim manages to kill Queek Headtaker by snapping his neck like an ultra badass, avenging Belegar who died to Queek
>He gets killed by an assassin not much later
I'm still mad
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>>169344036
Just sabotage the walls.
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>>169340737
I only got my key this week so i don't know about the recent alphas in January and December 2016. I only have Tier 1-3 units at the moment since i began today. My information is limited to those units and have yet to unlock unique units like pikemen.
It seems that all sword units i encountered in these 3 tiers have Throw Pilas skill and spear units have Phalanx. Higher tiers have a similar skill with higher range or more charges. Leonidas Commander skill 'Hold the line' is a lower penalty and better stat version of the Phalanx skill with the option of upgrading it.
I don't think Artillery can be set to auto fire at a single location. Perhaps i have yet to find the keybind for that but from my experience, you have to manual fire every single time and there's a cooldown between each shot.

I haven't found a way to change unit formation like having range units in a line. Javelins are lined up as a square so it's more damaging if someone charge you with cavalry. Someone in global chat said something about being able to change formation and after setting it once, you can't adjust it for the rest of the match.
There's a barbarian named Vercingetorix with skills -
Iron Dicipline - Freeze your unit's morale. [All] 60s cooldown, duration 10s, [Positive] +Unbreakable
Scorched Earth - Set fire to everything within an AOE. [All] 120s cooldown, duration 3s, 30 Range
Defiance - Damage taken is only applied after order is complete. [Melee infantry+cavalry] 120s cooldown, duration 18s [Positives] Melee damage +12%, Melee attack +20%, +Unorderable
I don't remember this guy being in the steam version and i read that scorched earth isn't that strong to be called overpowered.
I don't see axemen anymore in the unit tree or they're classified as sword units now. Bow cavalry and ballistas are still in game though.
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>playing on vh/n as the empire
>laying in wait for marienburg
>mfw they see through my ambush and bring 30 total units against my combined force of ~16
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>>169345327
>being a shitter
Vamps are easiest faction in the game
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>>169345413
>Playing vh as the Empire

You read that wrong, my man.
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>>169345413
>mfw i was actually playing as the vampires
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>>169344829

Skaven assassin is just short hand for "because we don't give a shit the settings dead anyway also fuck you".

"PS lol if you played Tomb Kings or Bretonnia no warscrolls for you idiots"
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Will we ever see some cool RoR instead of the generic stuff we got?
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>>169346151
>cool ROR
>posts a halberd squad with extrafloppyhats.
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>>169346151
>recolored Halbediers

literally no different than the current RoR you sperglord
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>>169333660
There is this, but no idea if its fake or not
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>>169338621
HOLY SHIT MAN!
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>>169337281
I wonder what it feels like to be inside a squigs big squishy smelly tummy haha
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>>169345660
Surprised they didn't revive Bretonnia as some DEUS VULT meme tier army of crusading knights
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>>169344829
Indeed, was it really that hard to give Thorgrim an awesome death? They also forgot Skarsnik existed, damn that thing was a mess…
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>>169347435
They forgot Skarsnik, Settra, a bunch of fucking characters.

Revolting.
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Albion when?
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>>169346417
Dont you see the little demigrhpy you fuck?
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>>169348618
Right next to the unit officer and standard-bearer we'll never get?
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Ill be starting my first TWH campaign when I get home from work, Ill play as either Empire or Dorfs.

Gimme all your insider protips.
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>>169349738
Dwarf: Conquer north then go south
Empire: Conquer marienburg after wiping out secessionists.
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Any good battle overhaul mods for WH?
Because I bet Steel Faith is autistic as fuck, but if it's good I'll give it a shot.
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Why is the auto resolve so inaccurate for elves? Even when I was messing around in custom battles it kept saying I would lose hard.

My second army just had a bunch of glade guard and wild riders, so naturally I just charged my wild riders in and everything routed.
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>>169349738
if empire, wipe out secessionists then take Marien(((burg)))
if dorfs, go north, then into the badlands later
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>>169347185
I'm glad they didn't. Anything they could have done with Bretonnia would only serve to salt the wound.
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>>169349738
Heres a tip no one knows about: chaos spawn faster if you breeze through the chapter objectives. You could completely develop reikland and have siege tanks and demigryphs by turn 70 and chaos still wont spawn until you raze/sack/occupy x cities
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>>169350126
Well, it's the AI playing against itself. When you get two retards dukeing it out with each other, each unit's actual strength is thrown out the window. If you put any sort of human intelligence behind it, you can win.

Although, you scored a pyrrhic victory: lost your murder deer in the main stack, and everyone in it is beat to shit. I'm guessing your second army wasn't stuffed with anything special, either. Honestly, the auto-resolve bar wasn't far off.
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I AM THE SUPREME PATRIARCH
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Are there ships/naval units in WH?
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>>169351421

>Patriarch uses worst lore

Fucking why.
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>>169351474
>Plague of Rust: Increased -15 armour to -30 armour and -30 to -60 armour for upgraded. Duration increased from 27 to 44. Costs reduced from 5 to 4 and 7 to 6 respectively.
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>>169351421
I AM LEAN MEAN BEEF SUPREME
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>>169351439
All of that is covered by an IP CA does not have access to. It was pretty shit anyway, ditto with TW naval battles aside from FOTS and Nappy which were bearable but nothing to write home about.
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>>169349738
>Get Demi's with Halberds
>Run the map
Hellstrom Rockets are fun to field and the best visual effects unit in the game, great against low armour & low morale targets (not so good against armoured Choas stacks)
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Holy shit Total Warhams runs fucking terrible.
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>>169351998
you on a toaster? I have a mid rig and it runs fine
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>>169351998

what are you running?

its pretty well optimized for me, asides from the super long loading times
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>>169335506
Vlad is Lawful Evil. Whether you want to admit it or no, hes the bad guy. When your most renowned quote is "Live and serve me in life or Die and slave for me in death" or something of that matter you just CANT be the Good guy. I can agree with most everything else though.
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>>169335506
Why is Skarsnik True Evil instead of Chaotic Neutral/Evil?
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>>169336643
Steve Buscemi?
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>>169352460
Cause he's a gobbo
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>>169345239
hey anon, that's a shame about the artillery, Is the cooldown quite long? or something to micromanage.

Formations being nonexistent for width/depth seems quite slack

As for Vercingetorix, whe was the last commander released before the game went dark

Any major gameplay changes you have detected since its under new management?, how is the grind.
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>stomp through the ERE to get to jewville
>tanukhids set up in the holy land
time to kill some brownies
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>>169352647
That makes him good, though.
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>>169352849
this guy hasn't read the Skarsnik book has he.

my lord anon buckle up
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>>169352952
I have. Skarsnik is good. Goblins are good.

The Old World is rightful goblin clay.
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>>169352325

>tfw you thought your computer was pretty good
>newer games run poorly and keep saying your drivers are insufficient and need an update
>drivers are fully up to date
>they're just so shitty the software thinks something is wrong with them anyway
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>>169342319
Yeah.Why you saw were Royal Pegasus Knights.
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>>169353016
Can it runt and get back to soaking arrers before youz squig food
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>>169353216
Skarsnik > Grimgor
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>>169352164
>>169352325

I don't think so. I have an i5 4590, 970 and 8 gigs of ram. Game's benchmark tells me YEAH MAN RUN IT ON ULTRA and the example battle does stay 60+ FPS but then I try the intro vampire counts mission and it drops to 20.
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>>169353268
>Some idiot who loses his own boss city and only survives hiding behind an overgrown squig, who is forgotten about by his own creators of lore

>An orc demigod sought out by the greatest chaos champions to test themselves against "The Green Demon"

Kek
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>>169353284
Turn off porthole animations and something else.

I run it on something of a potato, I5 2400 and a 750 with 8 gigs. I can run it on a mix of high/medium with good FPS but I had to turn porthole anims off.
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>>169353034
>tfw you thought your computer was pretty good
Video card and processor? SDD y/n?
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>>169353532
Skarsnik was "forgotten" because GW knew that if Skarsnik went on the warpath against the Skaven, the Skaven would lose and the world would be saved, meaning they couldn't release Age of Shitmar.
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Wurrzag desu
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'e's roight proppa sneaky
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>>169353864
Damn GW why did you do that to him? Skarsnik was the avatar of Mork, he was supposed to be the greatest Gobo to ever live, but no they forgot he existed
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>>169354197
>>169353864
I still think the "once and future git" twist is fairly clever
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>>169354084
Is there supposed to be a purple orc there?
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>>169354084

I think that happens when you confederate them, he loses his special Savage Orc recruitment/upkeep trait bonus.
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>>169353864
Could of lost in his vengeance quest but all in all he just wasn't that thrilling. Maybe they wrote themselves into a hole but compared to other shit they did not the worst.

Honestly in a setting such as WH if anything besides the ET happens and everyone dies it would suck. In a world so bleak, so grim, and with the emotions of order adding to the power of chaos thus disorder would eventually overthrow order in the end, somewhat a social commentary.

The world suffers the cycle of death and rebirth and the greatest live on as a pantheon for those to come.
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>>169353697

Sorry, had to boot it up to check.

>4 Intel Core i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz
>AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series

I only have hard disk storage.
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>>169354865
>AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series
Bro that's ancient
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>>169355812

fuck
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I don't really follow any Total War sites aside from occasionally posting here. Is it just me, or are Wood Elves really strong? You can just stack various mounted units and harass/kite everything while easily flanking archers.

Talking about campaign play of course. I have no idea what people are using online.
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>>169356212

Forgot the rest of my post.

So that's the problem? I think the version I have is replaceable, so I could replace it with the 7000 series. Or is AMD no good?
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Will this army comp work for Chaos? I kind of want to throw in a master engineer as well, is that worth it?
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Playing warhammer for the first time.

Can your spells harm your own units?
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>>169356251
they were weaker on release than now, people couldnt get the kiting playstyle so they got massively overbuffed
But yeah they're pretty good when playing to their strengths and the ai is a mess trying to counter
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Anyone else make predominantly auxiliary armies as Rome for conquest?
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>>169356931
Not with polybian troops.
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>>169356637
See all that red, that shit is micro intensive and needs to be protected. Your amry has too much shit that needs protected. 3 pieces of arty is pushing it but is doable if you have enough in front of it but will likely not pay off as well when the enemy closes the gap.

5 missile infantry is too much as well since they suffer the same fate as your artillery. Thunderers require more attention but are a good pick against chaos but the quarrelers are suspect, due to chaos armor.

The regular long beards might as well be dorf warriors. They will not perform well but will hold but warriors will do that as well especially with triple axe lord red skill.

The GW longbeards are a good choice

Gyro bomber is decent and fun but I would canon if you are running that thing since its yet another artillery piece.

Also use heroes, runesmiths are really damn strong
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>>169356887
Yeah, the AI is what inspired me to give the faction a try. I was playing Empire and had most of the eastern map controlled. Wood Elves came in from the west and wanted to wage war.

Had no idea what to do against them at first. Ended up just making ranged cavalry of my own to deal with the harassment.
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>>169357276
>see all that red
would help if i posted my paint job

>I would canon
I would CUT a canon, fuck im tired
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>>169356637
swap out some of the shielded longbeards for hammers, a runesmith, one more thunderer, and some slayers. Gyrobombers are useless unless it is the RoR version
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>>169357276
So I should drop a cannon and quarrelers and add more great weapon Longbeards? I was only using the normal ones to hold a line anyway.

Are Hammerers worth it?
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>>169357763
i would say keep the quarrelers for things like giants/chaos spawn/trolls, but you need more ap melee in the form of more gw longbeards or hammerers. Hammerers are good against chaos because they have no ranged units.
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>>169357763
Hammers are good in the chaos matchup, not good against cav and missile factions since they get lightning rod syndrome. A good regiment of line holders is fine but triple axe lord dorf warriors will do that for cheaper.

Cut canon and quarrelers get some hammerers. Thunderers can kill monsters and infantry while quarrelers can only kill monsters.

Gut the regular longbeards swap for warriors and save enough to have a supporting army
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>>169356637

I would go Ironbreakers tbqh f a m
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>>169356363
It's a desktop right? Shouldn't be any problem upgrading to a more recent video card I don't think, depends on your motherboard. Nvids is top dog at the moment with 80%+ market share for good reason, but AMD cards are fine if you prefer. What's your budget?
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So I signed up to that Total War Access for the early start on the Bretonnia FLC, but what do I do now?

I guess they will send you a code to use to get early access?
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So how will the imperium trigger for end times work for brets, since they are apparently designed to be friendly with other brets too
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>>169358216
>>169358074
>>169357907
Is this better, then? I'm keeping the Longbeards mostly because I already invested in my lord's skills that boost their defense, and I'm not really hurting for money (that income is with 5 full stacks and I've pretty much built everything in my settlements)
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>>169359086
After they're done collecting all your data
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>>169323951
I always pictured the TK as having a kind of "dead and loving it" kind of attitude. The sense of humor old people who like to fuck with young people have.
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>>169323118
>Thread theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7NSUFDHFgg
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>>169360448
>That title
An image of Dwarfs playing a little 2 on 2 basketball flashed into my head.
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>SSD finally arrives
>loading times are now only slightly obnoxious, instead of "get up and make a cup of coffee; I thought that I was done with these days when dial up died" ridiculous

At least my OS is snappy.
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>won the battle
>finally retire
>settle down and build my home in hispania
>finally get around to marrying my beloved
>two beautiful kids
>still have strong back for honest farming
>grow old as kids grow up
>i'm getting old so they take over the farm
>hair gone grey
>wife and I are wrinkled
>kids own land
>suddenly someone kicks down my door
>THE ENEMY ARE LOSING THEIR ADVANTAGE
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What do I use bolt throwers on?
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>look at the enemy army
>5 pistoliers and 6 free company
What can I do in the face of such reckless faggotry?
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>>169361985
Big things
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>>169362101
Charge them
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So where do you guys Think Advisor Kun is from? The Empire, Bretonnia, Kislev, Norsca or perhaps somewhere else?
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>>169362180

Does cavalry count as big things?
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>>169362281
Yes. horse or larger.
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>>169362276
He's from the Empire.
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>>169362276
Albion. hes the dark emissary
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>>169362281
cannons are better for that kind of big thing, bolt throwers are for things like flying lords or giants
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>>169327305
>Plague of rust is good now
>Searing doom is alright
>Glittering robe is good now. (if you don't think giving flagelants 30 armor, especially in MP where most of the time non armor piercing units are used to fight them...)
>Gehenna's golden hounds was already decent but is now better against lighter units. and all units in general due to less vortex speed meaning more time on target.
>Final transmutation is still situation but is now cheaper.

Overall its actually not bad now. If people think its still shit in vanilla then those people don't use magic right.
>>169327556
I think people overstate the effectiveness of each lores best spell and downplay the other effects. If you bring a spell into a battle with a set plan for that spell you'll usually get more out of it than any other magic you could have brought. So its worth thinking about magic.

In campaign its similar but different. But some of the ideas still hold.
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so do vampire units disappear when their morale breaks? is that the trick to beating them?
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>>169341607
>Land of Chill
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>>169357276

Do not listen to this dude. 10 units of infantry is enough. Especially as dwarfs.
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>>169363460
This. That dude sounds mega autistic.

You could probably replace some longbeards with hammers or something but you'll be able to take on chaos well enough.
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Daily reminder that the next LL for Vampire Counts is Nagash
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>>169357276

>Telling a dwarf to drop his gyro
>against chaos

I suppose he's just supposed to leer really angrily at the hellcannons until they go away?
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Will the vamp counts be the worst faction in the game after the 28th?

>no vlad
>no isabella
>mannlet is the best ll
>other lls are the worst lord in the game and and a literal who
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Hmm, I'm kinda tempted. What d'ya say /twg/?
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>>169363658
cannons, numbskull. Gyros are a waste of a slot in campaign unless you are using the skyhammer

>>169363664
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
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>>169363661

Ghorst's starting bonuses are some of the best in the game.
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>>169363738

You're seriously advocating moving your cannons up to trade with hellcannons, while in the same breath telling a dude he needs more than 10 units of line infantry to help protect his army?
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You want a new historical game? Okay, but...

>You want another shitty Dark Age game
Fuck off.
>You want it in 1800+
Fuck off.
>You want it in 1700s
Meh, could work but do something with pirates, ya fag.
>You want it in the 1500-1600s
Literally perfect. Bring it on.
>You want another medieval game between 1000-1300
Okay, I'm down. Make it good.
>You want some crazy 20,000 BC game with Ooga Boogas
Lay off the crack pipe. This shit would be boring as piss.
>You want a 200 BC or 200 AD China game
Sure, we can do that.
>You want a 1200 AD Genghis Khan game.
Yeah, I'm fucking down. Let's do it.
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>>169363664
Yes. Rome and Carthage actually hatefucked so hard Carthage died.
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Fucking WHEN
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>>169363738

>A single Gyro card will effortlessly and at no threat to itself clear 4 hellcannons.
>waste of a slot.
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>>169363738
>Gyros are a waste of a slot against hellcannons
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>>169363460
Yeah, but I think he has a point about my ratio of infantry to ranged, I forgot to change the unit size so I've noticed it's hard to form a line good enough to keep my ranged units snug.

>>169363738
I think the gyros will probably be safer to take those units out though? Does Chaos have anything that can actually stop me from just flying over and bombing them since they have no range.
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>>169363917
them titties
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>>169364038
No. Gyros are great against hellcannons. he has a case of the downs.
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>>169363917
>>169364060
T H I C C

H

I

C

C
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>>169363917

>age of shitmar

hopefully never, what an abomination
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>>169364038

Unit size has nothing to do with that, as it will scale down your melee just as much as your ranged.

You know you can hold right click and drag a unit in battle to change how thick/thing their formation is, right? Put your ranged infantry into square formations. They'll be easier to form around with your line infantry and it also allows them to turn and fire faster.
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Empire is fucking ROUGH, just when things start going well them fucking welves come out of nowhere to be dicks and then orcs and beastmen are raiding and pillaging everything and my allies want help fighting the VC.

Karl Franz had a hard life.
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>>169364253
I know, but I'm used to forming super=thin lines with ranged units so that the maximum number of units in the formation are in range and for some reason it's just not clicking in Warhammer. Is a deeper formation actually better?
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>>169363917
who the fuck are these goyim
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>>169364505
Sigmarines
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>>169364392

Gun units in warhammer can shoot through other units in their formation so there's very little reason to put them in long formations. The only time when spaghetti lined ranged are going to see an advantage is when trading fire with other ranged.

Especially as dwarfs, you're not going to see many situations in which the range difference between your front and back line with one unit is make or break. Especially with thunderers, you're mostly going to be either shooting at large creatures point blank as they fight your melee, or you're moving to flank enemy infantry; also point blank.
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>>169364505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MzNpMD1K8
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>>169364392

By the way, to answer your question from much earlier, Master Engineers are amazing in the setup you have going. The bonuses they provide to artillery and ranged infantry in campaign are ridiculous.
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>>169360448
>>169361028
>10,000 years of Photoshop
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>>169363912
>>169363738

Yeah if they bring the price down I might consider it. But I'm going for owning the entirety of the Mediterranean coast so at some point i'm gonna have to fight them.
But for now I'm heading east. Macedon have already annexed Athens and Sparta so I'm going to nip those fucking phalanxes in the bud before they get any bigger.
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>>169364279

>Lore of Metal / Hellblaster Volley Gun buffs.
>Lore of Life / Wood Elf aggression nerfs.

Can't come soon enough my imperial brother.
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>>169363842
>cannons destroy the physical cannon part of the hellcannon from range
>leaving behind a useless crew of chaos dwarfs

>>169363971
>>169364018
>gyros destroy hellcannons
>do nothing else all battle

cannons destroy hellcannons, and can be used to target other units that late game chaos typically brings
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FUCKING WHEN

I NEED MY TALL AS FUCK THICK MONSTER
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>>169364975
Or Gyros can dismantle the hellcannons while the cannons go target other stuff too at the S A M E T I M E

This might be too advanced for you though.
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>>169365080
>using 2 units to do a job one can do by itself

inefficient t b q h
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waaahhh...
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>>169365157
>Using 2 units to do 2 jobs
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>>169364634
Ok, I guess I'll have to unlearn that habit then.

>>169364770
Worthy enough to replace another unit? I liked the idea of using Rune heroes as well with their buff to armor and armor-piercing damage, so I don't know if it would be smart to use both heroes simultaneously or choose between bonuses in the skirmish phase or bonuses in the melee phase.
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What's the weirdest thing you've seen happen in your campaign?

>Black Venom wiped out the Border Princes
>>
>tfw 5 minute loading screens
how much are SSDs these days?
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>>169364975

>Moving your cannons up to shoot at Hellcannons while it fires at your infantry.
>Can't fire at their approaching cavalry / monsters while you're being this retarded.

>Gyros 'do nothing else all battle' after clearing 20% of a chaos armies' card strength.
>Brimstone Guns one shot chosen, two shot chaos knights

Whatever you say, pal.
>>
where's the best place to read warhammer lore?
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>>169365302
You can get a 500gb one for like 150 USD on Newegg.
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>>169365285
I wanted to become allies with the Bretonians on my Empire campaign so I kept sending them my excess gold and scaring off their enemies. They eventually got strong enough to control most of the western side of the map, including keeping the Wood Elves in check for me to easily overpower later on.

Fuck Wood Elves.
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>>169365401
>moving up an artillery piece that outranges the hellcannon

>chaos is always going to bring 4 hellcannons
>brimstone guns one shotting anything

these are an awful lot of implications, friendo
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>>169365223

Armor has diminishing returns above 100, and most everything chaos will bring to bare against you has very high AP. This drastically reduces the value of runesmiths against them.

Master Engineers on the other hand do precision ranged AP, which makes them great at plonking down enemy heroes / lords / monsters. High level ones also provide bonuses to your entire army's ammo, range, and shot damage. Their activated ability that boosts reload speed and accuracy is also hilarious coupled with a solid artillery stack.
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>>169365285
Stirland destroying Sylvania
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>>169365656

Range difference between cannons and hellcannons is 20. This 20 is negated by the fact that your cannons are trying to shoot the hellcannons while the hellcannons are trying to shoot your front line.

And yes, end game chaos stacks always start with 4 hellcannons. Have you played this game?
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>>169365412
1d4chan, it's informative and usually hilarious.
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What if Hellcannons were changed and given 3 cannons per unit?
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>>169365540

I've had an (almost) entire Empire campaign where Bastonne was my best ally and we went through a lot together, from taking out Mousillon to their king actually coming to my rescue and descending from Helmgart to face an undead army that was ready to rape one of my cities because my army was occupied.
I actually fought two battles in that campaign where I was their reinforcement.
Allies in Warhammer are truly useful, specially Bretonnian ones.
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>>169366001
BY SIGMAR, NO

>>169365887
>end game chaos stacks always start with 4 hellcannons

not always - they typically have 1-2
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>>169365959
they also have porn.
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>>169364934
Beautiful
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>>169366027
Yeah, the Bretonnian's are great allies. The other empire humans usually fuck me over hardcore so I spend most of my diplomacy focus on Breton and the Dwarves. The Dwarves make great trade partners and they never go hostile on me, but I've yet to have them actually help in a pinch even when setting war co-ordination targets and such.
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>>169366064
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How does the AI let this shit happen? Looks like Rome is being eaten from the inside out, real Alien shit.
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>>169366141
beautiful cartoon boobies <3
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>>169363738
>>169363842
>>169363971
>>169364018
>>169364038
>>169364075
>>169364975
>>169365080
>>169365157
>>169365209
>>169365401
>>169365656
>>169365887
ran some tests to settle this autism once and for all - pictured is the time it took to kill/neutralize (blowing up the actual cannon part of the hellcannon) the enemy hellcannon unit with both type of gyros/a cannon.

In order of speed
>cannon
>gyro (brimstone)
>gyro (standard)

although the fact that the cannon is firing from much farther away means that accuracy is a concern, and the cannon might not always be as accurate as it was in my example. Another interesting thing to note is that the hellcannon can hit gyros, although it doesn't really do anything. Draw whatever conclusions you want

>>169366418
>anecdotal evidence

thats obviously on the extreme end of the spectrum, that doesn't mean the ai constantly brings that many
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>>169364279
Is there a mod being used in this image? I see spearmen with longer looking spears and shields on their backs. Or did i just forget that regular spearmen have shields on their backs?
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FUCKING when
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Friendly reminder
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Lizardbros when?
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>>169366705

No one was arguing whether or not cannons or gyros kill hellcannons faster. We were arguing the idiocy of using your artillery to trade with other artillery when it could be firing at the units it actually counters, like giants and knights.

Gyros can also engage hellcannons in melee which stops them from shooting well before they actually die.
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>>169366418
>>169367125
this is obviously just the ai trying their best to counter your innovative use of massed artillery formations
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>>169367054
Thumbnail looks like a clown complete with a red ball nose.
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STAAAAAAB-
>critical failure
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>>169367191

Furgil Despiser of Chaos takes his grudge thrower lightning strikes very seriously, OK?
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>>169335506
>Azhag the slaughterer
>Not even on the lost
>Lawful manipulated.
>>
What Medieval 2 mod should I play?
>>
Demigryphs,Imperial griffons and hippogyphs all are for cuddles and sex.
>>
Is it normal for wood elves to get obscenely powerful? in a game where most factions are a sliver of my strength they're almost over half.
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>>169368035
Yes. Blame Reddit.
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>>169368035

It won't be on monday. They're supposed to delay out their confederations till around the chaos invasion and make them a little less hyper aggressive.
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>>169367219
not the picture's fault that you got raped by clowns, anon
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What a fucking disappointment of a """"DLC"""""
>>
>>169367810
http://www.moddb.com/mods/planetwar-total-war
Don't forget to post your campaign here.
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>>169367810
Depends. What are you looking for?
>Autistic Realism
Stainless Steel
>Autistic Realism but Roman
Europa Barborum 2
>Autistic Fantasy
Third Age
>Fun and goofy
That one that has like 30 factions including Romans, Pirates, Knights, Uruk-Hai, Musket dudes, and others.
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>>169368401
>Fun and Goofy
Thera?
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>>169365412
The books themselves
www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battles

https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!RBIkFDKR
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>>169368391
>Dino Riders
Holy shit muh dick
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>>169368469
YEAH! Holy crap it's been too long
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fucking why are they naked
>>
>changed sneaky stabbin to single target

FUCKING WHY
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>>169368563
I have a soft spot for it. Here's an ugly rollchart I made for it once upon a time.
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>>169368996
Oh boy
Here we go
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when will CA add this unit?
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Serious question, what the fuck do I do with all this money? I have almost half a million but I don't know the best way to use it. I've given the dwarves over 100k in hopes of getting an alliance for dat amber but they're still refusing it. Should I just buy a bunch of armies and take over the whole map? I've just been having fun fighting everyone at once after 3 factions joined bordeleaux when I attacked them
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Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore

G027C-GL2N4-5V0KW

Total War Attila: Blood and Burning

FG6WA-L9B5G-NFC9B

Shogun 2 Blood Pack

FTAYV-VQL0J-7N2C7
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>>169369213

Never.

We're not playing Age of Smegmar.

Also it's literally just an Orc Warboss on a wyvern, which is already in the game, the only difference is that the wyvern is fat and has the downs
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>>169366460

Looks historically accurate methinks
>>
If AoS was instead standard WHF but with 9th edition simplified/AoS rules would you guys dig it?

Would it sell better?
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>>169369613
AoS is a fucking meme that every secondary fantasycuck spouts to fit in

the damage is already done and it can't be fixed
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>>169369613
Its too late, I'm off playing better games now.

Warhammer hasn't got shit on the wonderful world of historicals.

Ironically this is the reverse of my opinion on total war games
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>>169369430
Many thanks mysterious assposting anon.
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>>169369734
Huh, now that you mention it - how come toy soldier rulebooks never became a thing.
Theyre cheap as dirt and nice looking when painted.
You got persons to play with?
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>>169369613
>not being a fan of AoS
>not making fun of secondary WHF fans who only gave a fuck about the franchise when GW created End Times
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>>169369889
There are plenty of games you can play with toy soldiers. Theres even brikwars for playing with lego.

1/72 plastic WW2 and WW1 are best played with Ostfront and Westfront respectively.
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>>169369889
Except they are a thing
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>>169369889
I'm slowly converting my friends round to it, it helps that historicals are so cheap that I can buy two sides and demo games
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>>169369748
No problem, hombre
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>>169365285
Shwachafen destroying Vampires and conquering half of an Empire
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>>169369613
If it had just been a simplification of the rules it would have been fine.

But they had to fuck with it.

To be honest all GW table top games are pretty shitty to play anyway.
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>>169369965
>mini-Durthus with bows

Jesus Christ
>>
Moving around in undead lands is so fucking annoying. I don't want to suffer attrition so I can only move half a bar then set up camps every time except for when rushing to besiege castles
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>>169369405

Buy about 400 glade guard.
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>>169365285

Ostland going ballistic and taking all Kislev, Ostermark, Nordland, Middenland and Hochland, and then BTFO of the Chaos invasion. I never even saw Archaeon and I think the entire time Ostland lost maybe 2 settlements, one in north Kislev to the chaos invasion, and one in Nordland to norsca. But yeah, then turned around and destroyed them, and reclaimed the lost territory.

That was definitely the weirdest I can remember, though Estalia conquering all Bretonnia (before Welves came out) is a close second.
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>they still haven't been able to fix wood elves traits/followers

pfffhahaha you fucking euroshits are so inept quit sucking down fags and get back to work
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>>169365285
a border princes army with vc units
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>>169370740
That's gross and looks very unhealthy
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>>169365285

Archaeon the Everchosen joining the army of a generic Chaos Lord as a hero unit.

I swear this happened, he wasn't reinforcing or anything, he was actually embedded in the army.
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>>169370740
Bigger elf tiddy mod when?
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Ah shit i just had a thought. Since the three Brettonian Lords are technically different factions are they going to suffer from that issue where if you confederate a LL from a different faction they aren't immortal and can die? Like with skarsnik and belegar? I like that we have different start pos but it kinda sucks to only have a single LL with some factions.
>>
>sign up for TW Access to get brets a day early
>realize 27th is monday
>working until late and I'll actually have anime to watch, unlike during the weekend

Well, that was a waste.
>>
Who is best Chaos God?
>>
>>169371671

Nurgle
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>>169371671

Nurgle
>>
>>169371671

Buddha
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>>169371671
Yahweh
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>>169371671
Tzeench; but he'll tell you it's Khorne
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>>169371671
Solkan.
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>>169371671
Grandpapa Nurgle.
Bless his old pus filled postules.
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I can only get a close defeat while auto-resolve give me a decisive victory.
Is auto-resolve overly optimistic?
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>>169371671

Nurgle the god of NEETs
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>>169371671
Moloch
>>
>>169371671
Khorne
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>>169369613
Too late, everyone is playing X-wing m8
>>
Which faction has the hardest time overall in the campaign?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-jxnWWWlw0
>Bretcucks can go toe to toe against Chaos in melee, completely blow them the fuck out in cavalry
>they completely melt down against Wood Nazis
Are there some, dare I say, implications?
>>
>>169372294
Empire and it will be only worse
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>>169372367
>>they completely melt down against Wood Nazis

Don't call it anything other than what it is, he took a shit army.
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>>169372081

Auto-resolves always overestimates the power of an experienced hero.

If you had a level 1 Karl Franz it'd say you are gonna lose
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>>169372294

Overall: Empire

Start: Greenskins

Late game: Vampire Cunts
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>>169372081

Might have something to do with being attacked while in Forced March, I dunno.
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>>169372780
>>169372882

Thanks, it really feels like I’m cheating by using it but well, it’s for the Empire
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>>169373258

It's not specifically Franz, any experienced LL in general gives a huge boost to auto-resolve
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I guess it was only a matter of time
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>>169372367

>Cavalry focused army vs archery focused army
>Successfully cavalry charges zero fucking archers
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>>169372081

How are you playing the battle out? Given your cav and ranged superiority you should be able to bait the enemy away from their hellcannons and then flank them. You don't want those things shooting at you under any circumstances.
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>>169371671
Mork > Gork
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>>169373339
Incoming Oakley video.
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>>169372780

It's not that. Archaon is also high level. That empire army really should stomp that chaos army.
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>>169373607
Gork > Mork
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>>169373842
MORK > GORK, YA ZOGGIN' GIT!
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>>169373258

Should keep a save before that battle and work on it before your next campaign, anon. You absolutely should be able to win that battle and it honestly shouldn't even be close.
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>>169373880
YOUSE RONG AN DUM
GORK > MORK
>>
>>169374062
YOUSE LIK A STUNTIE

MORK > GORK
>>
GORKAMORKA > GORK N' MORK
>>
Still new to Warhammer, got questions
>what's a doom stack?
>what's that purple highlights below some of the unit cards
Thanks in advance
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>>169371337

That hasn't been a thing since at least the wood elf patch.
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Why are the beastmen west of the Darklands so uncivilised?
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>>169374237
units of renown have purple highlights
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>tfw WW3
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>>169374360
OH NO, NOT MY DUNGHEAPS
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>>169374237

>>what's a doom stack?

Colloquial term not used in-game.

Every army is called a "Stack". "Doom-stacks" is when the AI starts attacking with 3-5 full stacks of 20 units at the same time.

>>what's that purple highlights below some of the unit cards

Units with the purple highlight are Regiment of Renown units, they were added in the Grim and the Grave and King and the Warlord DLCs and are units with special abilities that each faction can only recruit once each.

They are only available to the 4 base game factions, Empire, Dwarfs, Vamps and Greenskins.
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>>169374237

>Doomstacks
Full 20/20 unit armies, sometimes elite but not always referred that way.
>Purple
Regiments of renown. Special versions of regular units. You can only have one at a time of each type and they raid you have a lord of a certain level to unlock. They are part of the grim and the grave and the king and the Warlord dlc packs. Only available for the original four races.
>>
>>169374004

I did. I will try again once in a while.
>>
Spent last night playing some Empire. I forgot how monumentally stupid the diplomacy in that game is.

>pls swap your 2nd largest city for this tiny village

>pls swap your 2nd largest city for this tier one technology

>pls swap 3 tier 3 technologies for this tier one technology

>LOL DECLARE WAR
>oh shit, we're losing badly, down to one settlement left
>but we'll only make peace if you give us technology

>make peace
>5 turns later
>LOL DECLARE WAR

>pls swap your 2nd largest city for this tiny village

>pls swap your 2nd and 3rd largest cities and some top-tier technology for this tier one technology

FUCK. OFF.
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Fucking when? I want to play as this NEET who still lives with his mom!
>>
Mannfred did nothing wrong
>>
>>169374494
Still lives with his mom because he fucks her hard every night.
>>
>>169374494
>>169374567

A barbecued penis only a mother could love.
>>
>>169374184
>Literally looks like 40k orks but without guns
Who the fuck design Age of sigmar it looks so shit jesus
>>
>>169374413
>>169374461
Thanks for detailed answer. I looked up doomstack but only see people using it without definition so I vaguely presumed it was just a single 20/20 stack.
>>169374332
Wasn't clear but still, thanks for the reply.
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>>169374482
older games diplomacy is retarded like that
>please do not attack
>accept or we will attack
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This is the most retarded emergent map I've ever seen.
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>>169374482
Very, very easy to forget just how good we have it with Attila and Warhammer. The AI has distinct diplomatic traits! You can actually SEE how much they like you! They accept sensible offers more than once every ten million years! You can actually HELP your FRIENDS, and when you do they're much less likely to just kill you!
>>
>>169374285
They got rid of confederated LLs not being immortal? So if i get skarsnik while playing as grimgor and skarsnik due, he'll come back now? That's excellent news.
>>
>>169374494
>all the story retcons
>the ritual trolled him hard, according to the retcon
>he ends up as a poor cuck who watches a couple laugh at him while he suffers and the world dies

Every time.
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>>169374909
>abandoning the true faith to be a Christcuck

Disgusting.
>>
Anyone knows any good battlemaps?
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>>169371671
Maal
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>>169375109
I have no Idea how you had the patience to do this. I could barely conquer the world as Macedon in Rome II.
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>>169375260
The secret is autism.
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>>169364505
really nice conversion models
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>>169371671
Malal, which is why GW wrote him out of the fluff.
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>>169375310
But it still looks like a fucking space marine.
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>>169375310
UGGHHHHHHH


THICCCCER
>>
>>169373550

Destroying their hellcannons seems to take forever even with the demi cav so I thought it might be better to keep them charging the infantry/monster.
I will try to take out the hellcannons first next time.
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>>169374480

Some tips:

Park way the fuck back. While you both have artillery, they don't have skirmisher cav or the cav advantage in general. They have to come to you. Cannon should focus the giant, other arti should target the monsters, and otherwise be used to pepper any routing enemies once the battle kicks off.

Send all of your cavalry around at them immediately. The goal being to make sure their cav and arti never touches your infantry. Pull units back based on how much they try to commit; KFC will definitely want to be at the infantry line during the clash for Hold The Line. Outriders and halberd demis should only stick around if a cav fight does break out. The regular demis should be more than enough once the hellcannons are vulnerable. If you can lure Archaon into fighting your cav here, do it. Just be sure to never let the walking army close in on you.

Obliterate those chaos spawn asap. Ranged units should be able to kill all of them within a couple volleys. Once they're down, crossbowmen on the giant, Gunners on Archaon.

As the cav come back, divert the halberd demis at the trolls, they should break almost immediately. Outriders should help with any remaining chaos spawn or hunt Archaon. Regular demis on the great weapon chosen.

KFC needs to be careful in this battle; there's very little in this chaos army that isn't great at killing Lords. I would use him as reserves in case of routing infantry. In the event you do have to use him this way, redirect handgunner fire to melt the chosen crowding him.
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>>169335285
Don't forget that their Necrotects can repair those monsters in combat.
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>>169371337
cool unit mod, its greatsword reskin?
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>>169375000

Fun fact about Skarsnik: if crooked moon gets wiped out, you can bring them back by getting a rebellion at karak eight peaks. If the rebellion wins they will replace the Lord with Skarsnik, and you can usually Confederate him within a few turns.
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>>169375809
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=847785822&searchtext=empire+reskin
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>>169334895
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer/Tactics/8th_Edition/Tomb_Kings

Always read the 1d4 tacticas to learn about new factions. It's a run down of how they work in gameplay terms, often comparing them to other races and mechanics. This is really helpful because that's how CA abstracts gameplay mechanics in to TWW, so these are super useful primers.

>emphasis on light infantry, speed, and maneuverability
>extremely low armor across the board, one of the most fragile races in the game
>baseline archery that can never negatively or positively modified in any way even when moving or firing through cover
>many units able to "deep strike" in to battle by literally emerging from the desert sands, meaning they'll likely have the best summoning mechanics in the game
>have their own unique magic lore of nehekhara, which functions similarly to vampire magic through healing and buffing units
>unable to march, making them one of the slowest armies in the setting, which kind of suits a legion of skellies
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>>169375423
>>169364589
>>169364664
Stormcasts are 5x better than Space Marines imo
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Doe anybody else think Dwarves as fantasy concept are fucking dumb? Look at this shit. How could this ever compete with humans or elves or orcs? How did they survive in the wild? How did they catch food?
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>>169376163
>emphasis on speed
>slowest army

I fugged up. Meant to say emphasis on hitting people from unexpected angles, using EBTS to reliably hit things in the flanks to compensate for your inability to march.
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FUCKING WHEN
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>>169375963

>fully armored greatswords
>no floppy hats
>removes the based Landsknecht style sets
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>>169376224
According to your pic yes
But mostly dwarfs are just a little shorter than humans
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>>169376224
>How could this ever compete with humans or elves or orcs?
They are not, dwarfs are in more miserable state than elves, they lost most of their holds to goblins and skaven and survived only by empire help.
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>>169326820
Dwarves worked for their treasures.
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Is there a mod that improves the pictures of faction members in Attila? Even Rome 1 is less retarded, everyone who's 70 looks not a day over 17
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RATTLE RATTLE
CLACK CLACK
WHERE'S MY TOMB KINGS
FACTION PACK?
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>>169376697
Expansion 3.
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Skaven: WE DID IT REDDIT
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>>169370740
I want that wood elf to sit on my face with her big fat ass
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>>169376737
xDDDD my fav meme ;3
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F O O T S Q U I R E S
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>>169376737
Sigmarines > Skaven
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CAN'T STAND MUMBLERS
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>>169375094
don't forget
>gets fused with his pet dragon just so he can be renamed, because GW was scared that Marvel would try to copyright "Malekith" even though they can't really do it because Norse myths are part of the world's cultural treasury or something like that.
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So 120 turns into my first TWW campaign, playing as Empire and I had fnu but now I'm fighting the Wood Nazis and the Skaeling/Chaos fuckers and it's just becoming a grind, learned a lot though but think I'll give it up

What should my second campaign be? Preferably someone fun, dwarves, vampire counts?
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>>169377112

Fampire Cunts
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>>169377112
ORCS
R
C
S
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>>169363917
>almost every single day, every single fucking website dedicated to miniatures and wargaming publishes an article that goes something like this: "please give AoS a shot, Stormcasts are so cool they are totally not Space Marines! PLEASE give AoS a shot, it's still young and it's just maturing!"
Nice try GW, but I'm not giving you my money. And I sincerely hope you manage to fuck up even the upcoming new edition of 40k.
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>>169376224
>Look at this shit
You posted an incredibly shitty artwork. So what?
>How could this ever compete with humans or elves or orcs?
Ingenuity and incredible hardyness
>How did they survive in the wild? How did they catch food?
Specifically in the Warhammer universe you have Slayers who are incredibly agile and swift, and you have rangers, who are some of the best survivalists in the Old World.

Dawi reign supreme.
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>>169376723
Sequel*
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I can't believe how the Empire handles their women...
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>>169377112

Vamps if you like microing hero units. Dwarfs if you like great battle chants.
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>>169375746

Will try to apply all this.
Thanks.
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>>169365285
After 40 turns I was the only dwarf faction left alive. No, I didn't kill the others.
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If there's one thing I don't miss in Warhammer it's mercs. Fuck this stupid shit - dead faction with no settlements and literally one unit gets a free general and hires 1900 mercs. So goddamn annoying. Just fucking die already.
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>>169377772
50 MERCENARY ONAGERS
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>>169377772
>units of renown
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>>169377851

That's nowhere near the same thing, though. Only Empire, VC, Dwarfs and Greenskins can do that. Not just some random shitty faction. Not to mention it's also 1 unit only, each requiring a certain level. That shit general is level 1; he wouldn't turn up with a fucking Luminark of Hysh, the Sunmaker, Zintler's Reiksguard or any of that bullshit.
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god dang it why isnt there a torrent for bretonnia or something already I just wanna play eet
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>>169377941

>comparing that shitty tier 1 merc army with Luminark of Hysh, the Sunmaker, Zintler's Reiksguard
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Is this the patch that finally kill warhammer tw lad ?
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Do we have a reverse-wood elf situation on our hands lads?

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5w2yof/giving_the_bretonnians_foot_squires_was_a_serious/
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>>169378047
>The Lords are so bland and reskin, the balance is so atrocious that even hugbox reddit turn on you,

Agree, CA really dun goof this one lad
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I'm at an impasse when it comes to Dorf ranged units.
Is there any real benefit of rangers over quarrelers? Aside from getting closer to skirmish and perhaps the small speed buff, is it worth replacing and upgrading the standard quarrelers?
Is there any benefit of thunderers over rangers, quarrelers or similar ranged units? I'm currently only fighting VC and Greenskins, but Chaos is sure to come knocking. Do VC and Greenskins have enough armored units to warrant thunderers? Or would quarrelers be more efficient?
Additionally, is there any real reason to use great weapon quarrelers over standard, especially considering they're unlikely to get into melee?
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>>169378205
>MP players ruin everything
>again
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>>169378415

ppl tend to use rangers for keeping them in the backline to surprise the enemy with sudden arrow fire after they have committed their bullet-magnet units to the fray (crypt horrors/trolls or cav). That Stalk ability can be so delicious.
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>>169378415
I've never really had a situation where rangers would be better than quarrelers. Thunderers are better depending on the situation due to having better ap damage and faster missiles (which are better for hitting fliers). The only GW Rangers I ever use are the RoR ones, but I would assume that GW Rangers offer a midway point in between quarrelers/thunderers where you get ap damage with an ok firing arc, as well as the ability to move quickly and handle yourself in melee
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So uhm is the blessed trebuchet fire """holy""" water with the Fey Enchantress's pee in it ?
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>>169378415
Rangers have vanguard deployment which I prefer all my ranged units to have. Better ambushes, can shoot enemy in back, etc.

Thunderers have more armor piercing damage, so are better suited for Brets, Chaos, Empire, Dwarfs and late VC. Quarrelers against orcs, Beastyboys, low armor units. Late GS only have black orcs and perhaps Spiders as armoured units so imo it's not worth thunderers.

Great weapon quarrelers/rangers are susceptible to cavalry and great weapons beat cavalry more than 1h + shield.
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>>169378702
y e s
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Pronounce this pls
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So, swinging a greatsword on horseback isn't a legit thing, right?
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>>169378830
RIG-DAM-NA

Wooow so ahrd
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>>169378830

Rig-Dam-Na
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>>169378830
RIGHT-DAMN--HNAAAAH
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>>169378878
>>169378890

Thanks lads. How about this one?
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>>169378830
Rgh-Dam-Hna
Like choking on a potato
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>>169378832
It is if the horse knows when to duck.
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>If you choose to flood Stirland in the Quest for the Silver Seal, the plain around the final battlefield is flooded

Neat little detail.
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>>169379001
kerns
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>>169378830
most fun unit in the game

not that hard to pronounce
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>>169379001
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>>169378205
Why do faggots like this exist?
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AGE
OF
SIGMAR
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Anyone here actually think Attila is one of the best Total War games?
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>>169379162

Thanks homer.

I struggle with this one the most. I feel as if I would be lynched if I said it in the wrong neighborhood.
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>>169379018
Neat. Sounds like it'd require a lot of training though.
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>>169377556
What a cutie. Tfw no blonde heretic qt will make you betray your vows as a Witch Hunter.
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>>169379229
Onahole
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>>169367854
With projectiles.
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wat do
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>Indypride and Turin fight a battle where Turin uses a terror-based manti/marauder spam army against Indypride's balanced build using grail reliquae support
>Indy barely pulls out a victory due to his infantry never losing the immunity to psychology/ld buff the reliquae provides
>Foot Squires beating marauders has somehow turned into Brettonia having the best infantry in the game
>Redditors now complaining en masse about broken Brettonian inf
>All of this because of one video
>Before the fucking patch is even out

what a bunch of entitled cunts. And you just know that CA is going to listen to them and fuck something up in return, just like the Welf hotfix
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Total Warhammer is so awesome! I can't believe it's based on a tabletop game! I wonder if you guys can tell me where I can buy a Bretonnian army and play with people who also enjoy Warhammer Fantasy!
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>>169379557
>foreigner
Into the trash
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>>169378830
ree dow nuh
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>>169379557
Wow sounds useful, he might lower construction costs factionwide or something
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>>169379557
if you aren't memeing, kill him

if you are memeing, ebin
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>>169370525
Why aren't you just moving only from one settlement to the next?
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>>169379557
Can go either way. He's either an imposter or a real stonemason and you get buffs from it.
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>>169376224
Dwarfs only work as underground tunnel dwellers, i.e. a goblin varient.
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>>169370740
I hope those are fire arrows.
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>Isabella's coming out soon
>realize I still haven't bought Grim Grave
Is it worth it? I love Vampire Cunts, just not sure about the carriages.
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>>169379853

Mortis engines and corpse carts are grate meat
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>>169379557

Stonemason LL when?
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>>169379889
Any idea if Hellman Worst is going to be available to the true von Carsteins at all?
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>>169379560
>Foot Squires beating marauders has somehow turned into Brettonia having the best infantry in the game

Indy said he tested several melee units in a 1v1 with them, not just the marauders in the video.
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>>169379853

Mortis Engine is probably the single best unit the Vamps have.

>>169380121

Don't believe so, you can't choose him as your starting lord as them.
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>>169379560
The Eternal Redditor on his way to destroy another DLC
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>>169376224
>How could this ever compete with humans or elves or orcs?

With gold and axe.

>How did they survive in the wild?
They bore mountain keeps so they didn't have to.

>How did they catch food?
By shooting it with guns.
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>>169380141
and yet he doesn't show the results - even if foot squires barely squeak out a victory versus chaos warriors, thats what anti-inf ap inf is supposed to do. Foot squires will be susceptible to ranged fire, enemy cav/monsters, and other anti-inf infantry.

>>169380206
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5w2yof/giving_the_bretonnians_foot_squires_was_a_serious/de6xdvt/

>>foot squires butcher dawi main lines
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>>169379560
In this case, it's a bit more that chaos infantry isn't really that good for the price, but I can see why people are wary of Bretonnia getting actually decent infantry. Maybe squires should be linked to the amount of knights of you have on the field, like one unit of squires per two knight units, which you can explain away by just suggesting that it's those knights squires which are doing the fighting and not a bunch of random squires they drafted in from somewhere that outnumber the knights themselves.
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>>169380379
If his matchups aren't 1 v 1 then they're fucking worthless, because Brets have plenty of ways in which to buff their troops.

If he's getting this from MP matches, it sounds like he's just getting out-fucking-skilled by someone who's figured out how to get the best of Bretonnia against whatever meta-blob he's bringing.
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>>169379560
I haven't seen that video, I saw one with squires vs. bestigors and the squires fucked them up. The squires did get the charge off I think, but the cost is like 700 vs 1000g, and as far as I'm aware TT bretonnia never had an infantry unit like this.

I don't play MP so I hope CA won't do what you're saying. But people saw the squires were (too) strong, especially for their cost, the moment their stats were shown. Them testing it in some actual battles is just a nice confirmation.
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>>169380379
That doesn't account for them being the most cost effective anti inf infantry in the game. From a faction that should have shitty peasant infantry.

>>169380461
Then it is a good thing he did it 1v1 and on large unit size for good measure.
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>>169380379

https://youtu.be/b76z-wBdOl4?t=36m28s

They trade almost exactly even with Greatswords despite costing 250 less, 1v1 the Greatsword go down to less than 10% health fighting them, they are definitely overtuned just a smidgen. Not nearly as bad as some plebbitors are making it out to be, but they could definitely stand to get their AP damage cut by 2 or something like that.
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>>169380607
They should probably have their anti-infantry bonus removed
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Nice try you fucking cunt
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>>169379560
Yeah, I saw that. The foot squires did beat some chaos warriors, but the chaos warriors were already in combat with halberdiers, and had been for a little while (so may have been fatigued) by the time the squires charged in.
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>>169380545
if you mean indy's battle vs turin where turin plays beastmen - indy uses peasant mobs to eat the charge of the bestigors before sending in his foot squires - and even then he still loses the battle

>>169380562
>>169380607
Either increase the price or slightly (keyword slightly) reduce the bonus vs inf. But knowing CA they will nerf them into oblivion
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>>169380607

Greatswords are super weak right now though. Compare their stats to literally any other elite infantry.
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>>169380607
>tokshen
pleb taste in Total War Youtubers
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Friendly reminder that foot squires are a tier 4 unit, and greatswords are a tier 3 unit. Being unable to recruit them in a minor settlement is a BIG thing.
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>>169381305

that's irrelevant m8 cause it's only mutliplayer babbies who are complaining about them.
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>>169380607

Worth noting the squires are in a much wider formation than the GS here, meaning they get a much larger benefit from the charge.
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>>169381305

GS are tier 4 though. You have to have the armory for them as well.
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>>169380607
>testing vs ai
>charging in wider formation, giving more models the charge bonus and giving the greatswords flanking penalties
>still lose
>against the heavily nerfed since release greatswords

don't see a problem
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>>169381425
But you can put the armoury in the main settlement, and it benefits several things like the cavalry recruitment chain for demigryphs. Being able to stick the empire barracks in a minor settlement in the same province is really helpful.

Basically, the more stuff you can keep out of your major settlements, the better.
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>Peasant mobs have the same melee animations as Karl
What did they mean by this?
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>>169381637
This remark does not have my consent.
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Express train to Valhalla.
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>>169381567

I understand that. It doesn't stop GS from requiring a tier 4 building.
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>>169379560
I would understand if someone wants that unit nerfed but there are retards who want it removed all together because it's apparently not lore friendly.
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>>169380379
In the vid the Foot Squires were facing Chaos Marauders (ie Chaos chaff) and buffed by
>Grail Reliquary
>Lore of Life regens
>A few sick rear cav charges
Of course they were going to win
Chairman Pao was right to destroy Reddit

The battle they're complaining about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge6OD2gdA24
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>>169381637
DELET
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i can't fucking take it anymore

i am going to buy some fucking sigmarines

see you fuckers in hell
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>>169381957

No you fucking faggot

At least buy models from a fun faction if you're gonna buy into Age of Skubmar
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>>169381957
Why go for the most boring AOS shit? Try something that actually looks good.
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>>169381957
good goy
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>>169381637
Wasn't aware peasants rode gryphons now.
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>>169382118
Was a hand-me-down from me da' it was
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>>169381637
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>>169382253
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>>169338810

>Mod

It's the Age of Charlieman expansion
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Can someone give me some tips how to play as Crooked Moon? I love gobbos but we pretty much seem like the underdogs in every single battle I fight. I've got Karak Eight Peaks, not interested in orcs if its possible to win without them (which it has been so far).
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>>169381957
Hmmm
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>>169337760
Can you get mods for that that let you play as other factions? Fuck Mercian shits.
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>>169368996
>roll on a medieval 2 chart

i would need one for that
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>>169383026
Arachnarok spiders are king
>Fast attack animations see them kill any lord or monster
>Can terror rout infantry lines

>Arachnarok spider vs Giant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzBRdi12Se4
>Arachnarok spider vs steam tank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MiB2NI2JzM
>Arachnarok spider vs kholek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetCE5oIOOw
>Arachnarok spider vs terrorgeist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fL4e1BxJeM
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>>169383026

Red skill tree buffs for gobbos is really all you need.
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>>169383576

They're also the biggest target in the game, ranged infantry literally can't miss it.

At least it has tons of armor but handgunners rip it apart
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>>169383576
Yeah I've noticed that in any battles with Skarsnik's army, most my units do about 0-12 kills, whereas my starting spoider does about 200+, lel. Is there really nothing else to it other than rely entirely on them?

What about tactics for killing dorfs? They've got one full stack with fucking renown units out the shitter left, and I can't babysit my Waaagh to ever be involved in any multi-army battle that isn't a siege.
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>>169383702

Ever since CA nerfed the shit out of squigs early game skarsnik has become a nightmare, especially with the addition of nazi elfs
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>>169381957
Stormcasts have the best lore of any AoS army, but the worst models.
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>>169383702
build lotsa gobbos

>>169383820
its going to get even worse since sneaky stabbin will soon only be a single-target spell
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>>169358782

I don't want to spend a lot of money but I think I can afford 100-200 dollerinos.
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>>169383942
Just how many gobbos are we talkin bout ere?

Also which gobbos. I have no fucking clue what I'm doing, I've only got this far due to auto resolve cheesing. Every time I fight a big battle myself it's 90% watching my gobbos all run away cowardly, no matter how well the battle is going.
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>>169383653
AI doesn't know this though
Arachnorak is also fairly fast, so can close that gap quicker or be used as a flanker if you've not got it on lord/monster killing duties
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>>169384037
Nasty skulkers are your friend
Regular gobbos hold the line, rear charge with nasty skulkers, they murder things off the charge and if they start winning they get a big damage buff that lets them keep winning
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lads, this is mapfag again. Remember that I was gonna release a Bretonnia-themed map pack in two days? Today I dabbed a bit into doing a voice-over for my trailer. Lemme know if it doesn't sound too cringy:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh_bwICZI_8&feature=youtu.be

If it doesn't sound too bad, I'll implement sum dank maymays into my voice over
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>>169384037
See >>169383626
Skarsniks red tech turns gobbos into elite super soldiers
Also wolf riders make good war machine hunters, quickest unit in the game other than dogs
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>>169384136
>releasing a trailer for maps

for what pvrpose
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>>169384087
>>169384206
Cheers this is really helpful. I stopped using wolf riders for spiders because I thought they looked cooler.

The idea of relying on regular gobbos to hold anything sounds frankly terrifying though. Everything seems to make them rout, very much including winning a fight.
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>>169384249
I'm bored
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>its another episode of MP autists whining about balance to turn the game in to unfun garbage where every single unit works exactly the same and has the exact same stats regardless of race
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>>169384037

Always pick night goblin warbosses for your lords. Always get Drippin' Tips right at 4, followed by maxing out Da Gobbos and Betta Night Sneakin'.

Use regular Goblins, Nasty Skulkers, Wolf Riders, and Artillery. Sprinkle RoRs, squigs, monsters and heroes for taste.

Drippin Tips along with the aforementioned red skills make literally every other unit available to you obsolete in comparison.
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>>169384136
I like it.
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>>169384136
Kek, laughed with you, not at you
It's good enough to do ironic maymay voiceovers imo
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>>169384419
this

literraly git gud , any race can win against another , its just a matter of mastery and knowing how the fuck to counter the other race
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>>169384452
Are night gobbo units not worth it then? I thought they were more elite?
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>>169384341

Spiders and night goblins are the goblins you use in orc armies. They tend to have worse stats than regular goblins in exchange for poison attacks. Night Goblin lords give you poison attacks.
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post moshpits
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>>169383129
what's the joke, buckley?
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>>169384539
Ah, got it. Thanks. So when you get the poison attack skill for a boss, that makes your entire army use poison?
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>>169384419
BUT MUH 250 GOLD.
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>>169384648
yes - be aware that it will override the armor sundering of the warlords boyz/the rusty arrers
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>>169384538

See >>169384539

Also don't bother with archers until you're fighting undead or chaos. Only thing they're remotely helpful against are unarmored large creatures.
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>>169384341
Wolf riders are better than Spider riders because of speed, and your Night Gobbo lords can give all your units poison attacks, which is their main advantage over Wolfs.
Nasty Skulkers give you armour piercing (AP) damage, which is the weakness of your other units. Make sure they hit/flank oppo high-armour units. Arachnorak spiders do AP damage too, plus terror, make them great flankers.
Doom divers are great too, plus a fun unit to have. Play around with their direct control function.
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>>169384723
Yeah I noticed against dorfs they'd often get literally 0 kills.

I fucking hate dorfs.
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>>169384419
They should make the MP units have different stats to the campaign ones
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>>169384648

Yes, take note of the parentheses here. Always make sure to check the skills at the top of a Lord's tree for shit like this.
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>>169384547
Party hard
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>>169384893
Thanks. I'd be lying if I said I knew how half that shit worked. Like banners for instance, literally ???.

Using regular units to utilise buffs in battle will make my army weaker in auto-resolve bullshit though right? That's fine I guess I don't want to have to rely on that I want to actually see these smug midget fuckers get shrek'd myself.
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>>169385025

Auto resolve takes these buffs into account, but once your lord is 6-7 goblin armies start getting really fun to play. Very glass cannon, high risk high reward battle style.
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>>169323118
I can't believe she ends up getting fucked hard by minotaurs...
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>>169384556
Figure on the right is what a fantasy soldier in heavy armour should look like. Figure on left is scifi power armour. It's a French thing called juxtaposition, an ancient Occitian mating ritual where your mother gets juxtaposed with my cock.
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>>169385171
That sounds pretty based actually, that shit is why I tried this campaign out. Armies that have a potential to be devastating but are always on the verge of complete disaster.

My previous campaign was as Kemmler, relying 99% on vargheists for everything.

So glad I got this game for £8 or whatever it was. The first time I've enjoyed a Total War like this since Empire, and I went into this hating Warhammer as a setting with a passion..
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>Youtubers already have access to bretonnia
Wtf CA its a FREE DLC you don't need to create hype
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>>169385332
your joke is shit

fuck off and go back to poopsmithing something good
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>>169385025

I can break that down for you. On a Lord's detail page he has 6 slots for Followers & Banners. These are functionally just like other pieces of equipment; Followers being campaign bonuses and Banners being battle bonuses.

When you engage an enemy army, you click and drag the banner down to which unit you want to have it; that unit gets the described buffs. You are free to switch which unit has it every battle.
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>>169385479
Fuck.

When do you apply the banners? Is it during a battle, when you are doing the set up or the magic thing, or some time before?
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>>169385626

At this point.
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>>169385626
Before the battle, when you get the screen showing the armies and giving you the option to Attack, Autoresolve or Retreat. If a loading screen's happened, it's too late.

If you forget, you can put them on unit in the battle summary afterwards as well, so they're there for next time.
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>>169385368

It's to hype the Old World Edition rerelease
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>>169385871
Inshallah brother
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>>169385871
You were posting like 12 hours ago, did you go to bed right after you conquered spain?
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>>169385479
>>169385791
Fug

Thanks for helping out this stupid git, ladz.

/twg/ is comfier than I remember. Is it just the goodwill from CA releasing a game that people actually like again?
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>>169385964

Yep
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Do you get a code from the humble bundle?Might buy it a as a gift
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>>169386026

We're in that goldilocks zone of just popular enough to support steady meme growth but not large enough to have an overabundance of faggotry.

That's not to say the jump from history to fantasy was all hugs and kisses, of course.
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>>169386026
You'd have to be a complete turboautist to stick around and constantly complain about not liking Warhammer, seeing as it's still missing at least half of the content that's eventually going to end up in the game(s)
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>>169386147

>I tell you hwat that Mannlet ain't right.
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>>169386186

Yes, it's a steamcode
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>>169386147
>that dang 'ole empire man, tell ya what, just get in here and go purge purge purge, mean they got priests and everything, is crazy man
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>>169386198
>>169386206
Yeah I'm a huge historyfag and hate Warhammer with a burning passion, it's my least favourite setting in anything, next to Warcraft. But I can't help but like this game after staying out of TW for years.

The DLC and pricing is pure absolute cancer, but I think this humble deal brought a lot of people into the game also?
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>>169386434

Make sure to download the free DLCs as well if you haven't. You have to pick them up on steam separately.
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>>169386434
>I'm a huge historyfag

So were the creators of Warhammer 2bh.
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>>169386434
>Hating some insignificant media with a burning passion

Don't do this please.
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>>169386434
>The DLC and pricing is pure absolute cancer
I'll never understand this

beyond blood and gore for the usual reasons and chaos because people are fucking cry babbies

What's wrong with the DLC? New animations, voices, factions, magics, skill trees, flavor text, events
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>>169387040
The only reason I can find for this is people not having a job with a first-world wage.
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>>169387040
I don't 'hate' the DLC pricing but I do wish they were $5-6 cheaper and the mini campaigns were separate.
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>>169385479
Im guessing its not possible for modders to make more banners? Because it would have been nice
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>>169386767
Yeah that was slightly too emotive language. Something about the aesthetic just pisses me off. It's not like I get autistic over people liking it or anything I've just always avoided it. The orcs are alright though and playing this game taught me gobbos are in fact best.
I just hate how everyone in this setting seems to be a giant chinned hunk mcbrofist who is TOTALLY AWESOME, in order to sell toys for neckbeards to paint themselves.
That's why I like goblins. Even moreso than Orcs they just seem to be written silly as hell, and instead of being badass warriors they are just a bunch of cowardly, scheming, backstabbing gits.

>>169387040
Back in the day, you got all that for the price of the full game. Expansions have been a thing for decades, those are great, but Day 1 DLC on top of a full priced game is unforgivable.
Even the expansion style DLC cost nearly as much as actual full expansions like European Invasion, Kingdoms, etc, with a tiny fraction of the content.
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>>169387221
I can understand this. I irrationally hated the fuck out of dlc when I was a jobless 16 year old too.
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HERETICS! THEY DARE REBEL AGAINST THE HOLY MANDATE OF THE CALIPH AND HIS HOLY CITY Toledo !? THEY SHALL PAY WITH THEIR HEADS!
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>>169387319
It's the other way around. If you actually work for your money, and can remember what it was like when you bought a game and got the game, this shit is way more obnoxious.

If it's NEETbux or your parents money, who the fuck cares where it goes?
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>>169387259
>the mini campaigns were separate.

That sounds like an awful idea. Paradox levels of cancer.
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>>169387260

I assume they can? I haven't really looked into it.
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>>169387259
>netorare
never post this image again
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>>169387387
But that's not how it works. The price of a DLC is insignificant compared to living expenses and even food.

t. has a job
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>>169387415
CA are way, way worse than Paradox when it comes to DLC policy. Paradox still mostly sell off DLC as new content whereas CA are obsessed with overpriced Day 1 shit that is already in the game.
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>>169387449
There would have been mods for it then, but there arent any

Any modders here who know if its possible?
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>>169387387
Maybe you were a spoiled little shit when you were a kid and your parents would buy you whatever trifles you desired then.

I bought a game and got a game. Now I can pay more to get more of a game that I enjoy, where before there was nothing past that. I had to wait for a sequel to maybe never come out.
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>>169387485
It's not about weighing up living hand-to-mouth, it's being fleeced for expensive shit that should be part of the game you already bought.

You are just totally okay with being swindled for money all the time?
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>>169387516
Paradoxshills actually believe this
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>>169387274
I'm talking about warhammer

Warhammer dlc compared to literally every other Total war title is vastly more worth the price

>Back in the day, you got all that for the price of the full game.
Wat
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>>169387516
>CA are way, way worse than Paradox when it comes to DLC policy
that is objectivly false, kill yourself paradox shill
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>>169387516

>One faction for $5.
>Free with pre-order, extended to free with purchase of the game for the first week.
>This is an obsession.
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>>169387274
If you actually were around for expansions and aren't just looking back, you'll remember that most expansion packs were half the price of a full game and usually basically fucking nothing.

The expansions people talk about these days are the best expansions, shit like the frozen throne wasn't the norm, not even close. Somewhere in this house I've got old expansion disks with things like "Three new maps, updated unit balance (one of those things people like to say now "used to be free" despite the fact that even in 2005 patching a game wasn't even easy, it often involved going to a website like fileplanet and downloading patches, in order, and if anything had gone down/been taken down you'd better hope that -someone- had it uploaded elsewhere), and 2 new units for each faction!"
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>>169377556

>meanwhile 2000 years int he future, the Reiksguard have evolved
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>tfw the walls are already down from siege escalation and the previous siege

fug

Also there are no high walls in AOC to symbolize the dark ages
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>>169387581
No, in the past you could keep playing through with all the other features that are DLC now without paying more, and then a few months later an expansion would come out that added whole new features beyond what we get now.

You are defending paying more for less.
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>>169387465
I don't even know where it's from I just like the expression.

>>169387415
It's no more cancerous than tacking a half baked shitty mini campaign that you have no desire to play onto the DLC.
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>>169387274
>I just hate how everyone in this setting seems to be a giant chinned hunk mcbrofist who is TOTALLY AWESOME,
??????
?????
????
???
??
?
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>>169387587
>i don't know how software development works
I'm totally okay with paying less than an hours wage for the work that's gone into the DLCs.
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>>169387274
>I just hate how everyone in this setting seems to be a giant chinned hunk mcbrofist who is TOTALLY AWESOME
But that's 40k.

The people in Warhammer fantasy are more reasonably sized aside from Chaos dipshits
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>>169387675
Few games got expansions and even fewer of them were actually good. Much like old music, only the absolute best is remembered.
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>>169387665
>"Three new maps, updated unit balance and 2 new units for each faction!"
But that's literally what most of the WH DLC is.
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>>169387665
We're talking about Total War, right?
We had shit like Viking Invasion, Barbarian Invasion, Alexander, etc, all adding way more content than the DLC nowadays.

Don't get me wrong, we have things SO MUCH BETTER now due to Steam and other platforms allowing patching outside of buying an expansion/mission pack, but Day 1 DLC is a cancer we never had to deal with back then.

>>169387642
Most of the factions you can't play as with the base game. How is this acceptable?
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>>169387920
>Most
>3 DLC factions vs 5 base/FLC factions
???
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>>169387735
Chinese basketweaving forum inhabited by NEETS, of course you're going to find a lot of kids with no money who have no idea how much shit costs and don't like paying money for stuff.
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>tfw the AI is blocking my flank with reserves

It's...it's beautiful...
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>>169387764
Look at the faction leaders for the Vamps, the fuckin Wood Elves even, Beastmen, everything. The Empire is the same but with more facial hair, the Dorfs are the same, more facial hair and less tall.
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>>169387972
>swords and javs
just plow through
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>>169387920

>We had shit like Viking Invasion, Barbarian Invasion, Alexander, etc, all adding way more content than the DLC nowadays.

Ah ok you're baiting
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>>169387920
Barbarian Invasion and Alexander added fuckall to the game. Alexander is the only one worth owning and that is because a lot of mods require it.
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>>169387920
>mongol invasion
>added 4 new campaigns! (it was actually 2 and one was rushed as fuck and basically scripted so that you just walked over it)
>10 new units, 7-8 of these were the mongol units
>a couple of new buildings and upgrades
>a bit of a graphics bump
>made the camera less shit
>balance changes

and that's pretty much it.
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>>169388076
>>169388059
Barbarian Invasion was an entire new campaign map, new set of factions, new mechanics..what the fuck more did you want?
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>>169387516
>CA
>Release faction packs in between 7 bucks and 15 depending on how much they add, sometimes with new campaigns (admittedly shitty, but since when are minicampaigns ever good in TW)
>If you don't buy them you can't play the faction, but they'll still be fully integrated into the campaign as a rival faction

>Paradox
>Go check steam page
>150 bucks for the full game
>If you don't buy dlc you get shit like not even being able to see the face of who you're dealing with
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>>169388168
He wants it split up into 10 separate DLCs that together costs twice as much so he can feel proud about his MCjob.
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>>169387735
You keep dodging the question because you are smug you just got your first job or something.

This shit used to be free, but you are happy with games being cut up and released for more than original price with DLC.
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>>169387920

The only faction available even remotely close to launch was Chaos. Beastmen, Wood Elves, and the subfactions only started coming out in the fall.

Lets also try to remember that the number of free start positions is increasing from 5 to 9 in a couple days.
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>>169387716
That's Warhammer in a nutshell, this and 40k both.
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>>169387613
>>169387624
CA are easily the worst when it comes to DLC cancer, Paradox are up there but the shit CA pull is unbelievable.
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>>169388031
>Vamps

Mannfred is a mannlet, Vlad is reasonably proportioned, The other 2 are scrawny necromancers, 1 is a chick.

>wood elves
Orion is big sure

>Beastmen
They aren't that huge. Gorebulls and minos are bigger. And they're monsters.

>Empire
Karl is kinda big, Volkmar and Gelt are reasonable.

>Dwarfs
Manlets

>Orcs
Big, sure.

Fantasy characters are a lot more reasonably proportioned than 40k.
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>>169388182
CA is also a hell of a lot more mainstream than paradox though. It's the name of the game with niche games. Also you just get them all on sale for fucking nothing anyway and it is you know, 5 years of development time now for CK2

try playing like serious niche shit.

>120 dollars
>requires you to plug in a USB stick they send to you (and you pay for) for DRM
>you have to actually pay for patches
>steel beasts
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Because some games were stingy with expansions it means all DLC is passable nowadays no matter how shitty it is.

How about Brood War or Yuris revenge?
Heck, Brood War added what, 1 new unit and rebalances but those campaigns were damn fine Jimmy.
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>>169388282
Barely
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>>169388352
I mean 40k is the most overthetop possible standard you could have. Warhammer is very close to that other than the odd wizard.

Your standard for everything is "there are even bigger more manly awesome characters also in warhammer", kind of missing the point.
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>>169388182
Teutonic and Crusades
FotS
CiG and HatG
AoC
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>>169388179
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>>169388385
Things are operating mostly the way they always have, outside of day 1 stuff but these days you get money allocated to you JUST to make that, it's not stuff that's "taken out of the game" they literally give you more resources to make it so you're faced with the choice of "we either make it and have it as pre-order stuff or we don't have it in the game at all"
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>>169388385
You're not allowed to like spending your money on games on 4chang
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>>169388240
Yet again you demonstrate that you don't know how things work or even used to work. This shit didn't use to be free as another anon has already covered, and it was never gonna be in the game from the start. Post-release content is actually developed post-release usually. Idgaf if that's not the case with some other games, but it's certainly the case with TWW.
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>>169388182
>>If you don't buy them you can't play the faction, but they'll still be fully integrated into the campaign as a rival faction
That's the thing, the content is in there, they are cutting it up and releasing it for more shekels.

With Paradox it's just the fact those games have been out for years, with more and more new content released after time. The Paradox cancer is that they have those fucking tiny DLC like the face things, which should be free. The CA cancer is to charge more money for things that should also be in there, like factions in a new DLC or game they released.
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>>169387920
>viking invasion
>1 campaign that didn't add anything to the base game

>barbasian invasion
That was ok

>alexander
Still considered one of the worst exp packs of the series and literally only good to get the alexander.exe for some mods
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>>169388440
Compared to every other setting ever, yes.

It's just the aesthetic. Some people like it others don't.
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>>169388168

None of those were new assets, swapping around shit and calling it a day is not "new content" it's what radious does you moron.

You're comparing new sets of animations, voices particle effects, models textures and a lot more that we get with the new DLC to basically...nothing?

It wasn't until kingdoms that expansions actually added new assets AND even then it was just a few factions that actually added new shit like the americas, the rest was recycled shit from the standard game, like all the things you mentioned
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>>169388385
no it doesn't,Warriors of Chaos and beastmen are shit dlcs,but WE,G&G and K&W are worth it
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>>169388485
Now that depends on the publisher but amount of really really good "DLC" is quite smaller when compared to what expansions used to be.

Problem with DLC is you are never sure if its new content or simply purposely cut piece that was left out to shill for more money.
Season passes are pure fucking cancer.
>>
STUFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62sIm4FlZ0

Cheeky!
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>>169388554
>CA should just give you all the factions

I'm not entirely sure how you expect CA to fund continued development. They literally have different teams of people working on the next big game instalment and making continued releases for warhams1 and all these people need to get paid.
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>>169388534
Yes it did. Have you actually played previous Total War games in the series? You used to have every faction from the start, and then later you'd get whole new ones added in one or two expansion packs.

CA even cut up their DLC with selling off factions for extra. Fucking "Viking Forefathers" shit.
>>
I honestly feel like they're practically planning for big sales when making DLC these days
. I'm not desperate enough to shell out for some uninspired units/factions alone, but if you get the entire slew of DLC+game on a 50% (or whatever) sale you usually end up with a pretty reasonable price.

If you don't like buying it piecemeal just wait for a sale and pick up then, you'll get a content/price ratio similar to old expansions.
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>Those destroyed ancient ruins

Religion of peace at its finest boys
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>>169388612
>Compared to every other setting ever, yes.
Like what?

Warcraft AKA Pauldrons and muscles?
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>that feel when you find a bootleg expansion pack for Wc3 on the market made by Germanfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXXT5YIlhoY

Many laughs were had
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>>169388620
Yeah, but those palette swaps were REALLY HARD man.

Yeah, you're right, these guys know nothing about gamedev.
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>>169388656
>one of the top comments is about the Fay Enchantress' feet

footfags should be gassed
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>>169388763
Previous total war games only had humans, I don't see how you can make a comparison when it's honestly apples and oranges
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>>169388701
That's how development used to work, then you started playing vidya and were brainwashed into thinking this shit is acceptable.

TWW is definitely an improvement from what they've done in some previous games as regards to this, but they need to focus on post-release content actually being new, and not just things you already had in your game but weren't allowed to play yet.
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>>169388385
>can come up with three worthy exp packs out of hundreds of titles
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>>169388763

Jesus christ you keep ignoring what people are telling you and repeat the same tripe over and over

IT'S NOT NEW IF IT'S USING ASSETS FROM THE BASE GAME, IT'S JUST RECYCLING ASSETS AND SELLING IT AGAIN

That's the enormous difference between current DLC and the old recycled shit.
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>>169388812
That's the only other one on the same level and I mentioned it, because its a Warhammer copy and paste, but even that has more girls to at least mix it up.
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>>169388818
Kek, what the fuck is this
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>>169388554

>That's the thing, the content is in there

Not on release. If we're looking back at how things were 'in the past' you straight up didn't even get the patch unless you bought the expansion.

If you compare the game at release to the game without any DLC purchased now, an absolutely significant amount of free content has been added.

Exactly what percentage of the average expansion pack was usable in any way for the people who didn't buy said expansion pack?
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>>169388625
You can be quite sure. 90% of the time it's not purposely cut, probably more than 90%. You know why I feel confident making that statement? because if it was commonplace it would get leaked, all the fucking time.

And again no, I have no idea if you were around for expansions in their hayday, but I remember being a wee lad just getting into PC games properly, expansions like firestorm and yuri's revenge were some of the first I got and thought that they must all be like this. Oh boy I was wrong, I can't even remember some of the games anymore but I remember many, many an expansion where they were charging the same price as those expansions for things like a few new maps and 3 new guns I think was the one that -really- bit me. And ofc this was 1. pre-internet so it was a hell of a lot harder to go researching stuff and 2. literally a child.
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>>169388897
What old vs new are you even comparing here? Did you get all the information about old games from wikipedia?
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>>169388656
>most bretonnian knights are jealous & petty rather than chivalrous & honourable
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>>169388818
Now we're talking
Blizzard on suicide watch
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>>169388913
Wait so your argument is literally

Where the bitches at?
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>>169389003

What kind of retarded response is that? Look I'm just going to quote previous posts until you provide an actual argument ok?

>>169388620
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>>169388878

In what previous year(s) exactly did devs release free playable content updates to their non subscription games, as many as 8 months after release?
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>>169376737
haha so original :D
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>>169388960
>If we're looking back at how things were 'in the past' you straight up didn't even get the patch unless you bought the expansion.

That was due to limitations due to lack of internet access. Often you could get patches by buying magazines and using their demodiscs.

>If you compare the game at release to the game without any DLC purchased now, an absolutely significant amount of free content has been added.
>Exactly what percentage of the average expansion pack was usable in any way for the people who didn't buy said expansion pack?

Again the only difference here is the internet, before the only way a developer could get any new code to the user was through a physical disk they had to buy somehow. I don't disagree that post-release support, patching and new content is great and that DLC is the only way to fund it, I just don't agree with how CA in particular goes about that.
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>>169388763
Yes, I've played every TW game since Rome on release. I don't necessarily agree with Viking Forefathers or Chaos, but that's beside teh point, it's all TWW DLC we're specifically talking about. It seems I need to repeat a basic fact: All. The. DLC. Factions. Were. Never. Going. To. Be. There. From. The. Start.
They were not "cut out", they work like small expansions. Would you be suddenly okay with it if they combined two and two and called them expansion? You seem to think all the DLC should be in the game from the start, but guess what; then they couldn't have released it until about now, and that's not economically viable. I'm tempted to call you entitled.
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>tfw new to total warhammer
>don't know anything
>the guide button is broken

help
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>>169389180
PICK ORCS
RUN ORCS INTO SMALLER GITS
RECEIVE TEEF
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New video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62sIm4FlZ0
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>>169389180
>play dwarfs
>build quarrelers
>win
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>>169389095
And with the old TW expansions we got entire new assets in new units, factions, campaign map, the horde mechanics + balance changes and patches. Apparently they don't count because there aren't new particle effects or animations, but whoever posted that is probably just baiting by this point.
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>>169389140

>Often you could get patches by buying magazines and using their demodiscs
>buying magazines

Do you honestly think this wasn't done to sell you a product?
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>>169389106
Maybe some maps were added to unreal tournament and that was it. Most of the time they were just recycled from requested old glories or modders
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>>169389232
I did that. Doesn't work.
Campaign will send you two full dwarf armies to fuck your shit up while you are passing the hat to recruit some gobbos. Fucking bullshit mate.
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>>169388960
>Not on release. If we're looking back at how things were 'in the past' you straight up didn't even get the patch unless you bought the expansion.

Not always true, sometimes they uploaded it to their website (which may, or may not even exist a year after the game comes out) or if you're lucky fileplanet! and, this is probably where a lot of this sort of pseudo-myth about how good things used to be, if there was like half complete stuff they would occasionally actually finish it and add it in.

I remember downloading the patch for... Total Anihilation Kingdoms, which added in a couple of new maps and some weird big super unit things all I remember though is Eramon getting a cool giant boat.
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>>169389149
It's not beside the point, that is literally my problem with CA's policy, examples like Chaos or Viking Forefathers or whatever. I have no idea why you are saying retarded shit like:
>ll. The. DLC. Factions. Were. Never. Going. To. Be. There. From. The. Start.
Many were in but not playable, and a decision was made to sell them later instead. I don't have a problem with new content made after release, that is the only way to keep games like this supported, but CA don't always do that.
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>>169389254

Are you legit retarded or something, it's not a fucking new faction if every asset in it is old, I can't take shit from existing factions, rename it and call it new, do you understand how fucking retarded you sound
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>>169389254

Right. And you paid for those in their entirety. You either had them or the game was exactly the same as it was before their release.
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>>169389272
The games companies didn't sell the magazines, anon, it was just the only way to have a broken game be fixed after release. It sucked, like I said this is one of the ways things are objectively better now.
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>100 POSTS PAST THE LIMIT

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>>169389385
>>169389385
>>169389385
NEW THREAD
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>>169389373
>>169389379
They were made after the game came out, it was new content that provided something different.

What are you even arguing at this point?
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>>169389342
>Many were in but not playable
[Citation needed]
It seems you're just on a general crusade against the gaming industry to me.
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>>169389467
No just CA in particular for being cunts.
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>>169389342

>Many were in but not playable

Name them. The only faction in at launch that wasn't free (it was free if you actually bought it at launch) was Chaos. All of the actual post launch DLC races were NOT in the base game period.
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>>169389462

That CA's post launch content practices haven't somehow gotten worse than they were 'in the good old days'.
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>>169389526
I have yet to see an argument or citation.
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>>169387667
sick armor, is this from game or random art?
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