/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

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First for silly helmets

>>169300016
Why not use the bowblade? It's tricked form is amazing.

>>169300749
It's all scent-based my man

Alright, I got through the Defiled chalice. Now all I have left (on this character at least, but my arcane character is stronger in general and I'm not planning on doing this on my Str character) are the 3 depth 5 chalices. Hopefully they're not TOO much of a step up from the defiled chalice, because I'd really like to get this over with so I can beat Gehrman.

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Why is Wet Nurse relatively docile? I feel like she should be way more aggressive.

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Viola and Gascoigne's daugther give birth to Ebrietas!

>>169301556
Nice blog.

>>169300934
I have another character using the bowblade and chikage, along with the evelyn. Shes also female for maximum edge. That run was the easiest yet.

>>169302752
You should have done a dante cosplay

>>169302668
thx, remember to like comment subscribe and follow me on twitter, facebook, tumblr, grindr, and deviantart

Holy fuck did I fall for some kind of meme with my Str/Arc build? Just started a new character, currently BL75, with 30/30 Skl/Blt. Viscerals deal upwards of 1000 damage, the Evelyn actually deals respectable damage and I just shredded Logarius like it was nothing when he was the boss I struggled against the most with my previous character.

>>169305263
>Holy fuck did I fall for some kind of meme with my Str/Arc build? Just started a new character, currently BL75, with 30/30 Skl/Blt
>str
>skl
?????????
which is it

How do I git gud at this game? This is my first Souls-like game and I'm stuck in the first zone.

>>169305263
What weapon are you using? I'm at 50 SKL and 35 BLT using rifle spear and I've been having an easier time with my STR/Arc character.

>>169305746
Play more aggressively, make use of Rallying mechanic, learn to parry.

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Who wanna help me kill Ludwig? I feel like, besides getting hit a lot, I'm simply not doing enough damage.

Annalise is the best.

>>169305746
Don't fight groups, lure or run past enemies. Take advantage of rallying, lern2parry early will help a lot. The 2 Brick Trolls after opening the first shortcut are good practice.

>>169305589
character a) Str/Arc
character b) Skl/Blt
sorry for the ambiguous wording

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>>169306659
BL? You should be around BL60, and have a weapon at at least +6, with at least a couple 10% gems in it.

Not getting hit is easy enough, but less damage output means a longer fight meas more opportunities to make mistakes and get hit.

>>169305746
Look up YouTube videos on how to open the shortcuts in the area.
Don't try to clear the entire area, rush through.
Rush either to one of the bosses or until you find some Madman's Knowledge. Encountering bosses, killing bosses and using Madman's Knowledge gets you Insight. You need at least 1 Insight to be able to level up. Once you can, overlevel yourself.

That's how I did it, anyway.

>>169306508
A simple +6 Saw Spear and a +7 Evelyn. They just tear through everything. Now I got a Chicago, we'll see how well that works.

>>169292730
she just has a larger health pool, if you do the whole fight only hitting the head you will get at least 2 staggers

>>169307521
I'm bl69 with a +7 fire ludwigs blade. Total 337 fire damage.

would you guys agree that defiled amy is the hardest boss in the game? disregarding the jump cheese, it has the longest range of any boss and can kill you in one hit almost guarunteed. sure the crf amys have more hp, but when fighting crf amy you are going to have top tier chalice gems already, whereas before defiled amy the best you can have are 21%ers.

>>169308406
It's still ez without jump cheesing. Just wait for the head to lower and attack it. Or go for the arms.

How do i start any type of srcane build? Be it pure arcane or arcane str.

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>>169308406
>would you guys agree that defiled amy is the hardest boss in the game?
Absolutely not.

>>169308161
>bl69 with a +7 fire ludwigs blade. Total 337 fire damage.
That's all right in the median. You should focus on getting hit less, or doing some chalice dungeons and getting better Fire gems (you can get 16% in Lower Pthumeru).

The DLC's not going to get any easier, so if you can't beat Ludwig now there's not a lot of point in forcing it, unless you just want the HMLS.

>>169308137
Yeah, I figured. Wasn't that hard to get it to stagger twice when I started stabbing it.

>>169309025
Read the guide in the OP

>>169308406
The boss of literally the layer before it is harder, it's not that hard to not get hit before it tears it's arms off and after it does even without the jump cheese BMA pistol shots to the head will enable a stagger or even finish it off

>>169308406
Just get a weapon with many vertical attacks like the tricked saw cleaver and beat Amy's arms. I beat her with a +6 Cleaver with bad gems after I couldn't do it with a +10 pizza cutter. You can also easily see when she will drop her head and give her a few attacks then.
>>169309036
>Descedant
He's basically parry and visceral tbqhimo

Hardest boss for me is Ebrietas.

For some reason I can't ring my beckoning bell anywhere in the Forest. What's could cause this? I can get summoned just fine and have opened all the shortcuts.

I went back to the Dream and the Doll is back in her default position when you first find her and she won't talk to me. I only have the option to level up with no dialogue. What do the fuck happened?

is there a good guide to make a character that looks like the plain doll?

>>169310130
You lost all your Insight

>>169310570
Ohhhh. I've played forever and never knew she could "deactivate." Thanks, anon.

>>169306659
Still need help?

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Post things relatively cute in the BB context

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>>169311484
messengers a cute

>>169311082
Oh, for sure. Gimme a minute and I'll ring at that lamp by the blood swamp and the big boys. Password: bbg

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>>169311484

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>>169311827
Sweet, I'm ringing

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>>169306659
>>169311827
>not even trying to git gud
>uses ludwigs holy blade

I was running through Hemwick earlier and was fighting that pack right before the boss. Killed two, then the third ran toward me and clipped into one of the obstacles and just started floating upwards until she nearly got out of sight. Then she fell out of the sky and died on impact.

What weird glitches have you guys seen happen?

>>169311827
Haven't been able to connect to you, dude
You still ringing?

>>169312316
new player here. what's wrong with the holy blade?

>>169312551
you become >>169306659

>>169312551
Nothing. It got a reputation as being a "noob" weapon by memelords from /v/. Just ignore it and play with whichever weapon you like.

>>169312643
>Oh no people ask for co-op
Why do you care so much?

>>169312010
Jeeze, you beat his fucking ass. Thanks, anon.

I don't understand the coop hate by a lot of the playerbase. It's one of the most enjoyable aspects of the game for me. You know there's no review board that is judging your video game skills, and it doesn't matter how you play any game as long as you have fun, right?

>>169312551
Boring weapon, attracts shitters like the Drake Sword/Dark Sword in Dark Souls 1/3.

>>169313159
The player base doesn't hate co-op. They hate people that get carried all the way through the game and never even try to beat a boss on their own.

>>169312551
40% of randoms use it, so it's considered a shitter weapon along with the Hunter Axe, but don't mind it all. Feel free to use whatever you want to use, whatever is the most fun to you.

>>169312551
>>169313965
/v/-tier idiots dislike it because it is popular. No more, no less.

>>169313159
Personally I hate coop because I don't want to pay 25 bucks a month for Playstation Plus for the slight chance of finding a coop partner among the seventeen people who still play the game regularly and actually use their Bells.

So I claw my way through this game, only being able to get support when the game decides to set up a summon point.

Is it harder? Fuck yes. Is it infinitely more satisfying? Fucking hell, YES.

>>169314454
And NPC summons exist. Most of the time they're just meat shields, but Valtr can easily turn the tide

>>169313263
Ah, aright. Yeah my first DaS run was pretty regrettable because I just stuck to the drake sword. Weapons like that just blind people to trying others.

>>169314681
Since LHB scales evenly with Str and Skl, it makes it incredibly viable, increasing the likelihood a newer player is going to use it. I use it during scholar, Edgar-like runs because of the A scaling in Arc (and Edgar uses it), but it feels bland

>>169314528
as I said, when the game decides to give them to you. There is no NPC summon in the fishing hamlet, for example and against Logarius you're also on your own.

They do help out a ton against the Shadows of Yharnam and Rom, I'll readily admit that.

>>169314681
Yeah that's pretty much one of the biggest cons with LHB. For new players it's easy to develop bad habits with that weapon.

>>169314998
Henryk and Madaras make the Shadows a little more fair, since they can usually kill one between the two of them (though I don't know what Madaras is trying to accomplish with that Fire Paper), and Antal is surprisingly useful against Paarl and Reborn. Yamamura is okay for taking heat away from the Failures, and Queen Killer can be a little helpful against the Queen (as his name suggests), but most of the rest are trash. It's definitely for the best that they aren't available for every fight, it was possible to go through DaS2 having NPC summons kill every boss except Dragonrider but he doesn't really count since he could be tricked off a cliff

>>169315354
I also found the Mensis Scholar you can summon before Ebrietas to be pretty good. I mean, he just stands in front of her, shooting her with the Blacksky Eye and tanking her Call Beyond on his Loch Shield while you can safely stand behind her and stab her to death.

>>169315354
Scholar made it even easier with the addition of new(competent) summons
You could summon a mage for Riderx2 that makes the cakewalk even easier, and Benhart "lemme stand here and tank LGK even though i cant" was complemented by ya boy boyd, the man with a million defence and HP

Also dragonrider has Glencour, one of the best summons in the game

>>169308406
No because I just BMA cheesed it. It and magic a
just demolish it.

>>169315693
Damian against Ebrietas is worthwhile, but the summons as a collective whole can't really figure out to not hit the small Roms from the front.
>>169315718
Boyd was capable of killing Freja solo, I have nothing but admiration for the guy. Glencour is another favorite, he's just that good. However, some of the other summons like Benhart and Felicia were brave to the point of stupid, and usually got themselves killed, and Lucatiel couldn't heal. The problem with the first Dragonrider was being able to have him run off the edge.
We should drop the DaS2 now before a certain someone decides to spend the next hour or so saying why it's the worst thing ever made. And we probably need to turn back to BB-related conversation

>>169316102
Good point, meanwhile i find that most of the chalice summons are next to useless since they'll tank hits like no tomorrow and only heal at the last second.
Notable exception has been the tomb prospector vs Rom, he managed to keep most of the adds busy while i fought the big cheese.

>>169316385
Olek hasn't been the brightest in my experience. He threw a Molotov at a hotdog. While he does serve as a good distraction against the little Roms, the boosted health doesn't really argue his case

>>169308406
Have you ever fought a FRC Darkbeast

>>169314528
Valtr is a damn badass, he's the only summon who's inarguably great.
I dunno what his deal is with eating beasts, but no harm no foul

>>169316385
I actually got stuck in the corner when I tried summoning that blue guy for amygdala, had to squeeze my way out

Then it turned out the summons suck for that fight so I soloed it anyway

>>169319320
I personally think he ate beasts out of revenge for the one that killed his fellow constables. It became his shtick, he would walk by and people would think, "There goes Valtr, guy ate a beast once. A whole beast. Just sat down and ate the fucker."
With a guy like that in charge, I wouldn't be surprised if the League had people piling up outside the door to sign up after the story got around

so what's the most OP pvp build?

>someone told me there's a nice hunter's dream dynamic theme
>go to store
>it ain't there
I JUST WANT A NICE THEME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>169321023
If you can find some way to use the tricked forms of the Chikage and HMS effectively in the same build (I've seen it done), you just about have it

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>>169321023
50/50 Quality with Saws and Blunt LHB. Or just 50 Skill Rakuyo with high End.

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I'm playing through the game for the second time, first since a little after release. It's a lot more comfy than I remember it being. I'm running a SKL with some points in STR (since it feels like putting points into SKL past 30 is a bit of a waste) but it's kind of... boring. All I do is hit things. The Saw Spear is also super boring. I guess STR has more interesting weapons.

I'm finding all these different ARC items that I could be using. I have 15 so I can use a few, but when I find legitimately interesting looking ones I need more ARC. Is it worth putting more points into it just to use them at base value? Or should I just make a new character for an ARC build?

>>169321484
>since it feels like putting points into SKL past 30 is a bit of a waste
What? You're a SKL build. Going past 30, all the way to 50 is anything but a waste.

>>169321484
Some people go up to 18 for Augur parries, but Arc tools at base value aren't all that great. It would require a more specialized build, but one which is incredibly rewarding later

>>169321076
>look it up
>it's on the store but not on the ps4's store
Why? If I wanna buy something on my PS4, I'm gonna be looking for it on the PS4. Fuckin dumb

>>169321635

I really just started out going with SKL because my first playthrough was exclusively the Hunter's Axe, and wanted something different. The BoM are cool as shit too. I guess you're right, though, I misremembered that 30 wasn't the softcap for it.

>>169321701

I'll make a new build next playthrough then. I'm mostly just doing PvE, I don't want to pay for PSN+. It's a really fun game and I haven't even bought the DLC yet. I have 15 for the OHB/Beast Roar (still haven't used that) and the EPS is really nice for a cheap buff.

>>169321842
Buy the DLC now, it boosts Arc build significantly. Don't go past 15 Arc with your current build, though

>>169321995
15 is stupid. 18 or nothing.

>>169321995

Because of the weapons and the like? I was going to buy it and go through it before I go on to NG+, if I do.

>>169322089
The weapons and garb are excellent, a new Arc tool is added, two new covenants, and the bosses are some of the best.
>>169322071
And why would that be, o wise one? 18 Arc is only for Augur parries, and with some weapons a gun is always available for it. Those three points can be better spent elsewhere

can you join a passworded FRC dungeon via the SRRC if you have not yet unlocked FRC dungeon glyphs yourself? Like can you SRRC into cursed lower loran with a password if you dont have the lower loran chalice?

What weapons actually have hyperarmour?

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Anyone spelunking for farming?

>>169322679
No.

>>169322701
Most of them at some point in their attack animations.

>>169322679
No

>>169322491
But augur is the coolest spell in any souls game. It's worth using just to enjoy it's splendor.

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>Fight Yarnham
>Co-operator runs in and get 1shot
>Throw 1 attack
>Count 6(SIX) Mergo cries in a row, stunlocking me
Fair and balanced
Lets hope the next tries are without bullshit

>>169309123
Fuck you you nigger

>>169322896
Visuals, I won't argue. Wasting three points for a tool at base damage for the possibility of parrying, I will argue. I firmly think that Arc tools shouldn't be used at base damage, they should be used in Arc builds. You wouldn't go up to 18 Blt just to use the Madaras Whistle and Evelyn at base damage, would you?

>>169323092
The OP guide is literally the best explanation without making it a 3-page essay
If you cant be arsed to read those 20-30 measly lines then please go fuck yourself with a rake

>>169323162
Madaras Whistle can't interrupt and Evelyn is functionally identical to Hunter Pistol at low Blt. Augur has no functional equivalent.

Are there any redeeming qualities to Steak Dinner in peeveepee? How are tricked R2s compared to other weapons?

>>169323162
>Possibility
It's pretty easy to parry reliably with the augur, it just takes getting used to. I actually used it constantly with the transformed HMS during maria's fight to speed it up.

>>169323321
First off, put the trip back on. Second, the same purpose can be served with a gun, should the right hand weapon not require two hands in its tricked form.

>>169323681
>I disagree with your logic so I'm Lucifer
Excellent rebuttal from a likewise excellent base argument.

>>169322491
quick backstabs and access to parries regardless of what is in your hands is worth 3 points. Nothing is worth wasting going to 15 for then not following up by hitting 18 as well.

>>169323276
Fuck you, i hope i find you in the street so i can be your Dom Daddy.

>>169323359
It's basically a downgraded Saw with the heaviest hitting non-visceral attack in the game.

>>169323865
Back to /dsg/ with you

>>169321484
The saw spear/cleaver are really boring IMO. What you want are cool skill weapons like rifle spear, reiterpallasch, or bom. The other cool skill weapons are only in the DLC or aren't available until super late

>>169323872
>It's basically a downgraded Saw
That doesn't sound too bad considering that saws are pretty good.
>the heaviest hitting non-visceral attack in the game
You mean the fully charged one? I doubt anyone will walk into that, it'd be easier to oneshot people with other stuff like bloodletter/boomhammer.

>>169314454
>Personally I hate coop because I don't want to pay 25 bucks a month for Playstation Plus for the slight chance of finding a coop partner among the seventeen people who still play the game regularly and actually use their Bells.

The game is far more alive than you think it is.

>>169323971
I think you mean /v/

>>169323809
Giving up those three points is a waste if it can only open up an otherwise unused tool where the same means can be accomplished with a gun. Parries aren't essential to success, they just make it easier. The stun can be accomplished the usage of any gun. I just can't buy it.
>>169323832
3 points where we're supposed to keep it at the precious 98? I've found it worthwhile to stay at 15, especially with the Beast Roar. Going over is just getting access to something I don't feel I need.

>>169324369
You can't parry while wielding a two hand weapon like you can with augur.

>>169324128
Yeah it's not really bad, the tricked mode kinda sucks though. Aside from the trick charge r2 of course. You'd be surprised how many people would walk into it, great for dealing with ganks.

>>169324369
You're getting really butthurt over this for some reason.

A. No one's forcing you to go to 18 Arc. I don't give a fuck what you do with your Arc and no one else does. You're obnoxious as fuck and you should go fuck yourself.

B. Fitting 18 Arc into the 98 meta isn't extremely difficult, and has been agonizing memed over the last few weeks, fewer and fewer people stick to the meta, anyway.

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>>169324473
Parrying isn't necessary. It just makes it easier against some enemies

>>169324621
Yeah but for three points I rather have an extra option like that rather than just getting 15 AR on a weapon at which point the damage increase is so minimal you'll still be killing people with the same amount of hits so it's essentially wasted.

>>169324861
>for three points I rather have an extra option like that rather than just getting 15 AR on a weapon at which point the damage increase is so minimal you'll still be killing people with the same amount of hits so it's essentially wasted.
Okay, this is actually a good argument. And gems really nullify it otherwise

>>169324128
Yeah, it's got one of the quickest R1 spams in its untricked mode and still has decent range so it can be a fun claw-like weapon

>>169324861
This guy gets it

Plus Augur lets you throw Watchers and Madmen around like ragdolls

>>169324369
It is way more useful than beast roar, and you really don't need the roar, which wastes far more than 3 points

>take a break from bb after unlocking the hunter's nightmare lamp to play through nioh
>come back
>immediately happen upon ludwig
W E W

>>169325667
As odd as this may sound, you and a few other anons convinced me. 18 Arc is easily done now that I've taken a look at mugenmonkey again. The Roar has save me more than once from spiders, but the Augur was always helpful back when I used it.
Since the only hunter I have actively going right now is decently low-leveled, it won't take any adjustment to convert to 18 Arc (and I'd imagine Yahar'gul hunters would be trained in Arc usage, being run by Mensis), and tune any future ones to the same degree

This ""discussion"" reminds me that in all my time with the game I have never seen any evidence whatsoever that Beast Roar is in the most liberal meaning of the word at all useful.

Does anyone have video evidence of BR not being completely ineffectual?

>>169326014
hunter mobs can be bullied with it,also great vs keeper

>>169326014
Panic button when you get crowded, especially by spiders. If you like to speed run to levers then it's pretty useful. Also to stunlock hunters/Keeper into a corner, r1 spam then BR when stam is done.

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>be done with Nioh
>go back to BB because Nioh is just a huge blunder
>ring the bell
>keep ringing
>still ringing
>all church cucks apparently went to Nioh
JUST

>>169326014
It makes Micolash and Maria trivial. Combo it with the Whirligig and you're literally unstoppable.

>>169327190
Ringing where?

>>169326014
Crowd control and nope'ing thrown boulders away, that's basically it.

>>169327190
Depends where you're ringing m8

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>>169327852
>>169327767
Nightmare.

>>169327960
Frontier, Mensis or Hunter's? Also, what's your level? First two are really just PVP areas, Hunter's has most co-op, DLC in general does, really.

>that hunter npc at the end of eileen's questline

Why is this allowed? He's cheap as fuck.

>>169328183
Not really. Dodge bullets (or use the Wooden Shield) and let him come to you. He walks right into charged R2s, especially when he tricks the Chikage

>>169328054
Mensis, 90. I was getting nonstop invasions before the release of Noih.

>>169328183
My only problem is his rediculous health pool.

>>169328183
He can't actually leave the cathedral, so bait him down the steps and hit him with ranged weapons from outside the doors

>>169328342
The game has weird waves of activity. About a week or so back I had literal minute to minute SRRC co-op, then it slowed down a bit, now it's iffy whenever I'm on. In all fairness, it is a niche exclusive, but it's also a modern From RPG, those just don't die.

>>169328584
>it's also a modern From RPG, those just don't die.
>There are people still playing DeS PvP
Pretty amazing if you ask me

>>169328773
That Des' servers are still up to even be used is amazing

>>169328281

It kind of works, but randomly he'll just dash and kill me in one hit instead of getting hit.

>>169328183
What, did you think getting the most useful covenant rune was going to be easy?

More seriously though, if you can't handle him, just NG+, Hunter NPCs don't get stronger with repeat playthroughs.

>Nioh is just a huge blunder
Is it? My friend only got to play for an hour or so so far but says it's gr8

>>169328983
That might be the Old Hunter's Bone, where you should keep as much distance as you can.

>>169329058

I want the BoM. He's fucking obnoxious as shit. Seriously, pretty much every boss I've fought so far I've gotten in one or two tries, but this guy has wrecked me way more than that.

>>169329169

He's spamming that shit though.

>>169329220
The fight is just the waiting game. Stay back from him at all times and try hitting him when he tricks the Chikage and doesn't have the Bone active.
I once counted him using over forty bullets in one encounter, he's stacking Formless Oedon like there's no tomorrow

>>169329505

Are blood vial heals percentage based? His one blood vial must heal like 2k health.

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how do i make this

>>169314998
> Summoning against the Shadows of Yharnim

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>>169329220
Just hit Eileen

>>169329695
No, enemy hunters are just healed by an enormous amount from vials. They make up for it by only having one or two

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you guys hear about the new statues being released?

thinking about buying one with my american tax refund

they're going to be a couple thousand dollars though, not counting shipping.
they're also supposed to be fucking huge, like 1/4th scale or something
developed by prime1 studios

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>>169330427
good hunter

>>169329158
It's not that bad but if you go in expecting Bloodborne 2 you'll be disappointed

All the enemies are more single-mindedly aggressive (more chasing/attacking, less 'staring at you stupidly') but lack varied movesets- and their most dangerous attack is usually the 'sudden retard flailing that takes you by surprise and kills you'. Then they make up for that by having fucking huge HP pools and being able to kill you like you're in a cursed dungeon.

So what tends to happen is you learn some safe move and use it 10 times to kill one enemy, then you repeat this.

Now, the gear system and skill/item is pretty in-depth and levels matter. So if you're looking more for an RPG/Diablo experience where you can find 'combos' that let you roflstomp enemies it's good for that, and weapon movesets are actually really cool- lots of combos, and flashy skills.

But the enemies don't have that visceral reality to them like in BB. You feel like you're grinding down an HP bar with your chosen flashy cool moves and RPG stats, not 'fighting' if that makes sense

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>>169327190
>get a ps4 late because I wasn't going to spend 400 dollarydoos just for a single game
>kinda miffed you gotta pay for the same online dark souls pc players get for free
>almost no ones online

>>169330014
What of it? Playing crowd control for five minutes and then getting killed by lolrandomsnake is annoying as hell.
With Henryk, you have one idiot keeping the melee shadows busy and then when there's only one left, you can gang up on him and give him no chance to summon his bullshit snakes.

That said, on my current playthrough I did beat them solo first try

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>>169330593

>>169329158
Just got the plat and I'm not going back anytime soon.
>play BB nonstop until DS3 release
>play DS3
>already have the urge the play BB again before I even finish the DS3 plat
>go back to BB after DS3 plat
>Nioh comes out
>finish the plat and go back to BB again
Why is BB so perfect, lads? One should think that I'm sick of it by now but that's not the case.

>>169330620
>almost no ones online

Levels and areas matter, anon

>>169329158
it's very fun mechanics/gameplay wise but the rest is just 'decent/good' and not outstanding like in bb

>>169330613
>So what tends to happen is you learn some safe move and use it 10 times to kill one enemy, then you repeat this.
soemthing makes me think you've mostly played 1kat

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Finally killed the fucker. God, that wasn't very fun and was more stressful than anything else in the game so far. It really was just frustrating. I only feel relief that it's over with. What an asshole.

>BoM are 40k echoes

>>169331226
that's just a couple runs in the lecture hall, not a huge deal

>>169331052
Hi-stance kusarigama is what I do best with actually. I tend to do a lot of 'get over here' grabs, yoyo-spins, the occasional parry, and the long ranged throw.

Maybe I need to crank my dex up higher, but the damage I deal definitely doesn't let me play aggressively. And I'm using a weapon 10 levels higher than me that I found on a ghost.

>>169331226
Just hunt some beasts in Ailing Loran for EZ echoes

>>169331226
>does nothing but complain about everything and posts stupid anime reaction images
>likes blades of mercy
sasuga

>>169331725
>the most overpowered weapon type and stance is what I do best with actually
No shit? Gee what a revelation.

>>169331752
What's wrong with BoM?

>>169331901
retard magnets like lhb

>>169331965
Not really, I rarely see BoM. If anything Rakuyo is more of a retard magnet than BoM

>>169331725
I think the combat suffers from being too complex at times. there's a LOT you can actually do that most people will just never even think of, partly because it's not necessary and partly because it's really high effort

most people will just default to playing it like a souls game instead of exploring the moveset of weapons like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QRnYeWb-Ko

>>169332052
most retards cant even get the rakuyo

>>169332143
>what is summoning

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>>169326014
https://youtu.be/fI7TKbtg2oM

>I recorded this video almost a year ago

Shit, feels like I was playing Bloodborne for the first time yesterday lads.

>>169332240
>bom
>requires a retard to knock eileen off a roof five minutes into the game

>rakuyo
>requires getting past amelia, ludwig, failures, maria, and the sharkmen, with or without coop
>n-no way, r-retards definitely use r-rakuyo w-way more often!
dont worry anon, no ones gonna judge you

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>>169331226
I really like these images.

>>169332665
How is any of that relevant? A retard is gonna use a weapon no matter how many barriers are in the way. Most people feel underwhelmed about the BoM more than they do with the Rakuyo.

>>169331901
Its the objective worst weapon in the game, because the wooden shield hard counters it. 40END of BoM'ing can't break through a 10 END Wooden Shield, still allowing for a counteracttack from the shielder.
Every weapon in the game has its pros and cons, but BoM has very little pros compared to its huge con

>>169333816
>40END of BoM'ing can't break through a 10 END Wooden Shield
Sounds exaggerated but I would like to see if that's true. Does it apply to Saif and Rakuyo as well?

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>>169331752

It was the first thing all the way to Rom I actually found to complain about. Other than that, BB has been a lot of fun and I was really loving the game. The roadblock was frustrating, but once I realized how to kill him (thanks to some anons here) it really was patience and just getting over the hurdle. I was also here earlier asking about SKL and ARC.

anime's cute man.

wow so I just found out the reason why I always die to stupid faggot pthumerian elder's three hit combo

the game queues up your next dodge like ONE FULL SECOND before you are actually able to do it, then forces you to do it once you are done flinching. So like my failed attempt to dodge the second hit is queued as another dodge that is to immediately happen as soon as I'm done flinching - and this goes *perfectly* with the timing of his third hit which kills me

>>169334836
Do you mean descendent? Because I know what attack you're taking about and I think if you dodge forward and not back his spinning deathblow won't decapitate you

If you do mean elder I'm not sure what you mean

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>>169322860
Bump, except "or" not "for".

>>169335065
no I mean elder, when he does the quick stab with the lance, then the slightly delayed slash with the scythe, then the really delayed smash with the mace. I can see the mace coming and I know when to dodge it but the game automatically makes me dodge the second I *finally* stop flinching from the second hit because it's still queued up my late failed-dodge of that hit, which makes me dodge early and get counter-hit by the mace

Evelyn or Repeating Pistol for a build with decent BLT?

>>169335869
How much is decent Blt? Evelyn barely beats Hunter Pistol around 22, so if you have less you're better off using Repeating for damage.

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I believe "REEEEEEEEE" is the appropriate technical term.

>>169336171
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okay then

>>169336774
Fucking attack down

HP Down is bad but not unmanageable, but every gem with attack down might as well have never spawned

>>169337679
Even a beast can grow eyes on the inside

Any reason I shouldn't do Laurence as soon as I got his skull?

>>169337795
>>169337679
'Though failing to find any blood, the Bloodstarved Beast made contact with a lofty plane of darkness'

>>169337870
Nope. Be sure to tell us if you're the sort who finds him ridiculously hard, ridiculous easy, or somewhere in between.

>>169337679
Goodbye, friend

>>169337785
So the best is -stamina, then -durability, then HP down, then attack down?

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>when you kill the host's co-operator and proceed to chase him for 4 minutes through the entire forest until he gets eaten by a snakeman

>>169339910
Depends on the weapon and what you're killing. Stam is best if you want to use your weapon for everything. Dura is good for Parasite, guns and Bowblade Arrows. Beast/Kin down is best for PvP, and PvE if you have a dedicated weapon for each enemy type. HP deplete is good for halved curses if you slot a +5 regen gem on your gun. Atk down is worthless.

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>>169333816
>BoM worst weapon
>beat Ludwig first try just out DPSing him
>bad ass combos and move set
>stunlocks most enemies and every NPC hunter
>whines about wooden shield
>not a single enemy actually has a wooden shield
>but muh PvP
>playing low IQ babby tier Souls "PvP"

So much LEL in a single post. Go play your with your boring as fuck kirkhammer, PvP shitter. See me in 3s now.

>>169339910
Best is kin down; there are hardly any kin enemies and only one hard kin boss (Ebriatas) so who fucking cares.

The stamina UP curse is overrated. It is multiplicative so you end up using a lot more stamina when you have multiple stamina curse gems.

Durability down is alright but its annoying to have on a general purpose weapon that you use a lot, unless that weapon has a ton of durability by default.

Beast down is not that bad if you have a bunch of specialized weapons.

HP drain is pretty terrible, but it is manageable if you get it on a korean gem because you can use a +5 pulsing gem on your gun to negate more than half the curse.

Attack down means the gem is a dud.

>>169342091
>Check R1 spam with beast claw with stam up vs. none
>8 swings with none, 7 swings with stam up
Wow, it's fucking nothing

Is this place the true Hunter's Dream?

>>169343643
Just as Miyazaki intended

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>>169343643
No, it's the Nightmare of Mensis, think about it
>The nightmare swirls and churns unending
>We shall not abandon the dream

>tfw only need the chalice dungeon trophies for platinum

any chalice dugeon tips?

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>>169343643
It's the messenger bath in the Hunter's Dream

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>>169344780
It's all in the OP.

>>169344862
Me on the right

>>169344862
Look at that fucking jew messenger in the front of the bath. Never noticed that.

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>We will never get a special edition bloodborne with a cool cover art, we're stuck with Mr. Trenchoat standing or the pizza girl snoozing

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>>169345501
>implying this isn't the coolest boxart in the series

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>>169342091
>The stamina UP curse is overrated. It is multiplicative so you end up using a lot more stamina when you have multiple stamina curse gems.
Actually I think it has the opposite effect. It feels more like it can't stack past a certain point like Durability Down apparently can't.

Tried to upload a vid but pomf is shitting the bed so here's the relevant screen caps.

Left column is: Three HMLS untricked R1s, stam up 1.4%, 3.2%, and 3.4%; three HMLS untricked R1s no gems; Tricked HMLS fully charged R2 1.4%, 3.2%, and 3.4%; tricked HMLS fully charged R2 no gems

Right column is tricked Burial Blade L2>R1, 3%, 3.2%, 3.3%; tricked Burial Blade L2>R1 no gems.

Anyone feel like fighting Logarius? Ringing at the fog. Pass:

bbg

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>>169345028
>viewing this image with insight

>>169345819
Anyone wanna help me with the Orphan? Password is bbg. I'll be ringing at the fog gate.

>>169346102
Sure.

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>>169346093

>>169346164
Thank you my friend.

>>169346604
Glad to help, m8.

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>>169346093

I wanted to be cool and finish him off with the snek.

Thanks for the help with Logarius, man. My wife likes your armor combo a lot.

Any advice on the headless Bloodletting Beast?

Has Bloodborne gotten anyone else into Lovecraft?
>just started reading At the Mountains of Madness a few days ago
>notice that the chaos eaters from das1 bear striking similarities to the elder things
>learn that the nightmare frontier in BB is more or less taken from an existing lovecraft location
Shit's cool.

>>169346970
Well, yeah. Bloodborne is VERY obviously inspired by Lovecraft.

>>169346962
Play unlock, stick to a leg. Roll when he slams. If he's pushing up on you he'll most likely slam down so you can punish that. Go for the arms when he shoots blood.

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>>169346970
Yes, currently about halfway through mountains of madness

>>169346970
No, but being a Lovecraft reader made me enjoy Bloodborne a lot more.

>>169347064
Yeah, I got that of course once the elder gods and aliens started showing up, but I hadn't realized to what extent, and being able to draw all these Lovecraft parallels in the game, even as early back as Demon's/Dark Souls is pretty interesting.

Anybody want to help me take down ng+ shadows of yharnam? I'm annoyed because the last kek'd me with about three hits lefts. I'm level 116, ringing at the lantern, password is snakeb8

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>>169346738
>My wife likes your armor combo a lot

>>169347595
I'll be there in a second.

>>169347885
thanks!

>>169346970
What Lovecract story is nightmare frontier based on?

>>169347850
Are you saying that I have cucked this man by wooing his wife with my armour?

>>169346738
What combination? I want to impress girls with my fashionborne

>>169347991
You can basically fuck her now, she has clearly show interest in your style and is not afraid to tell her man she's looking at other guys. What a slut.

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>>169347985
I've actually forgotten the exact name, but in TMoM basically, these researchers are exploring an arctic mountain and notice how the landscape is basically made up of almost artificial looking cubes/shapes, and they liken it to a nightmare place mentioned in the Necronomicon, which is actually called "Nightmare (something)" similar to BB.
The geography of both places is also compared to this place in Ireland for better visualization.

>>169348153
And what kind of man summons to beat a boss? Not one fit to be a husband, that's what kind.

>>169348286
There's no shame in rallying your fellow Hunters to help Cleanse These Foul Streets, bruv.

>>169347957
Fuck me. Sorry my dude.

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>>169348264
Thanks man. Fuck I love Nightmare Frontier. The enemy design in that area is top notch and the interconectivity is great. Most underrated area.

>>169348579
I died with him at 1hp AGAIN. Wanna try again?

>>169348829
Sure. Same spot?

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>want to replay BB
>not sure if i can be bothered digging out my network splitter thingy
What should my build be? I've done pretty much everything already, not sure what I want to do

>>169349025
Have you done Generic Default Hunter?
Saw Cleaver is genuinely fun.
Beast/Ayylmao runes?
Full ARC?
Full BLT?
STR/BLT?
Wooden Shield offhand?

>>169349025
Cainhurst Outcast, Butcher, Constable, Yahar'gul Defector

>>169349259
>>169349237
Yeah I've done pretty much all of them other than a Butcher or Yahargul defector, but I realised I've never done a full playthrough with the rifle spear. So I'll do that and try not to hate myself

>>169349415
Plenty of Yahar'gul hunters used it, go for that

>>169349259
>bloobored's considers using different armor sets different """builds"""

>>169349237

Would Beast/Ayylmao require NG+ to do? Since you'd need to have the right shit for it and they come rather late.

>>169349492
I'm not suggesting builds as much themes for the hunter to find a way to incorporate a build or specific weapons that work for that getup. Is having fun in this way a crime?

>>169349492
>/dsg/ being here in the year of our lord 2017
Get out unenlightened beast

>>169349492
More like little roleplaying challenges to spice up the feel of things. Game's got some nice factions going on.

>>169349597
Dunno about the Beast Rune, but possible for Ayy Mode because of that S in ARC. Maybe you actually want to beat the DLC just before entering NG+ so that the bosses don't go into rape mode.

>>169349649
It's probably not even /dsg/, more like some asshole trying to start something

>>169346970
As a life long Lovecraft nerd, this makes me happy.

If you want some more stuff that feels like it influenced Bloodborne (or just some good fukken stories) try:
>From Beyond
>Dagon
>The Picture in the House
>The Shadow Over Innsmouth
>The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath (a straight up fantasy story with a ton of really cool imagery, but it's literally a first draft, so it can be a challenging read as it also has no chapter breaks and the sheer amount of weird shit can be a little overwhelming after a while, but this story is basically where the concept of the Nightmare comes from)
>also just read The Call of Cthulhu because it's fantastic

>>169348264
How are these kinds of stones formed? Apparently the Doors of Pharos as based off a place in Scotland called the Cave of Melody, so what needs to happen to get those kinds of formations?

>>169349785
Thanks for the recommendations m8, will make note of those.
I feel like some of his works are a bit difficult to get into just because of how verbose and slow-building everything is, but I just sorta eased into things with The Tomb and got MoM from my library, and I'm having a good time of it. Shit pulls you in if you're just having a slow day and sit down with it.

>>169350149
I dunno, something to do with fractures in the stonework after volcanic eruptions. Google basalt.

How come I become a 10x better player when I run out of blood vials?

>>169314454
what>>169324136 said, you don't know what you're talking about. I've never had to wait long for a summon no matter where I was

>>169350369
>run out of vials
well you're doing something wrong if you run out of vials.

>>169350369
It's all about how you adapt when push comes to shove, man.

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>>169349237
I've been a generic "hunter set + saw & blunderbuss" guy for most of my first playthrough, then I started the DLC and switched to Church Pick and Black Church set.

>>169350365
>Thanks for the recommendations m8, will make note of those.

Glad to be of service! The first three are quite short reads, From Beyond in particular is a very snappy read, no wasted time, right to the point. I'm surprised you're liking Mountains so much, a lot of people find the beginning very slow, but it's also comfy, I think. And The Tomb, you might be interested to know, was his first proper story, he wrote a bunch as a kid and teenager, but The Tomb, from 1917, was his first 'adult' story in a career of writing that lasted til his death in 1937. After that is Dagon, and you can pretty much sum up every single theme and concept that would later appear from those two stories alone.

I'd like to recommend a few more, I forgot:
>The Nameless City (man goes spelunking in Loran chalice)
>The Colour out of Space (my favourite, genuinely unsettling story)
>The Music of Erich Zann
>The Haunter of the Dark (his last solo story, his true last story is The Night Ocean, a very moody story written with a promising collaborator, R.H. Barlow)

He has a few stinkers (The Horror at Red Hook, which while also being unimaginably racist is just sort of a dude), and some weirder philosophical stuff (The Silver Key and Through the Gates of the Silver Key). Honestly, you're in for a treat even if you just go by what I've given here. Everything is free and legal to read on hplovecraft.com anyway, so go nuts.

>>169348901
Hey, I just wanted to say thanks. I went on to beat Rom, and now I'm fighting Bloody Crow of Cainhurst so I can get the Blades of Mercy for the trophy

>>169353003
Better than Amelia in a diaper, I guess.

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>>169353118
>he doesn't want to cuddle cat Gascoigne

>>169353201
These levels of cute should be illegal.

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>get home from hanging out with friends
>10:30 pm CT
>been awake since 6 am
>still have an itch to play BB

the only way I'm turning it on is if someone helps my faggot ass thru Chalice Rom and maybe a couple dungeons afterwards :3

>>169353552
Let me guess. Pass is reyntime?

>>169353623

howd you guess

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>start up BB
>hear that main menu OST again
God I forgot how good everything in this game was

Wanna know what boss I've died to most? Is it Ebritas? OoK? Nope.
Micolash. Fucking. Micolash. I hate myself.

Best BB rule34?

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>>169353384
Me on left

>>169353651
You asked for help yesterday, and it's an easy guess when you post practically every thread for somebody to carry you

>>169353751
Puppets or Micolash himself?

>>169353751
LOL.

The only time he is dangerous is as you drop into the room. Other than that, you should be able to stagger him to death.

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>>169353664
Here

https://youtu.be/LzdhTGaWzec

You'll like this.
Pic not related

>>169353807
Is that Henryk?
My heart can't take this level of cute

>>169353830

nobody ever responded last night. I'm just looking to get through this shit so I can Burial Blade early. Hoping to do everything else the rest of the way by myself.

>>169353751

When the game first came out, I was pretty cocky, since I'd already played a hell of a lot of Demon's and Dark Souls. I got my shit pushed in and died like 12 times to Gascoigne. I was so used to playing more passively that the idea to play aggressively was almost unheard of.

Going back through it now, I can't believe how shit I was.

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Should my new character be Arcane or Bloodtinge?

>>169353772
I like this piece >>1214551
Not the most lewd, but I enjoy it.

>die to a boss
>it's loran silverbeast
end me

>>169353964
Why not both? Someone post that webm with the dude obliberati g that one guy in Mensis with arcane tools and bloodtinge.

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>>169353552
Yeah I'll help

Who wants to share some good Bloodborne lewd art?

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>>169353883
Yes, this artist makes lots of Henryk and Gascoigne pics https://twitter.com/o10fu/media

>>169353964
50blt 20/25arc

>>169353850
Both. I stagger him a fuck ton, but when I back up a bit to get my endurance back, he decides to Call Beyond my ass and I can't shoot him in time to stop him.
And if it wasn't such a chore to even get to the fighting parts, I wouldn't be so angry. He's so annoying to fight after the first play through.

>>169354095
There's a new Soulsborne thread on /aco/. Try there.

>>169354068

Thanks mate. Ringing soon. pw is reyntime

>>169354321
Ringing

>>169354390

ringing at the third layer btw, my bad for not stating that

>>169354471
No prob, ringing through SRRC so it doesn't really matter

>>169354540

ugh, ringing again. Idk how those fucking tiny spiders always ohko me

>>169354726
It's alright, I usually kill the first batch

Why is Lead Elixir so good? I swear nobody knows how to counter this shit.

I hate these god damn red spiders so much

>>169354883
>t. Brador

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>>169354883

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>>169346970
I got really into Lovecraft around October (I had read a few of his stories such as Innsmouth and really liked them but got busy) and I got up until Pickman's Model before taking a break

I then got Bloodborne in December and have been nonstop playing it since, I loooove all the eldritch shit and fantasy-horror so much
Bloodborne has made me appreciate the cosmic horror stuff a lot more too as I used to not like it nearly as much as his deep sea sorta stuff

Unfortunately between the two I've developed a fear for unseen-yet-enormous stuff like Dagon and Amygdalas (though at the same time they interest me so much I wrote a novice Lovecraft tribute story)
Living in Massachusetts makes Lovecraft tons of fun too

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>>169355967
>have geeky friend super into Lovecraft who makes it sound like it's childish and bland
>read a bit more into it after seeing it in bloodborne
>mfw it's creepy as shit and BB seems even more unsettling

I would NOT be able to handle that shit. Even seeing the Amygdalas startles me.

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>>169353964

At 40/15/16/50/35/8. I know it's shit, but I experimented some earlier since this was my first character. Do I put points into VIT or BLT from now on?

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Our long-awaited princess of memes has finally returned. Did you get lost or something?

>>169356381

BLT is only good if you have a weapon that scales with it or use your gun a lot. Other than that, it's a wasted stat. You're going to want more VIT for sure.

He's back
Today is a good day.

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>>169356175
dude their design isn't /that/ bad to me despite despising t o o m a n y l i m b s but
First run through I got grabbed by the one before Yahar'gul without realizing it and like
The helplessness and unnatural position of my character legitimately terrified me

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Your dedication to that meme is astounding. I always feel proud knowing I inspired it.

how in the fuck am I supposed to beat Ludwig solo? Orphan was 10000% easier than this. I'm level 60 and I'm doing diddly piss damage to him. I get close to him, and his 270 degree radius swipes destroy me. Am I not supposed to lock in? I don't want to summon Valtr again, I really have no idea how I'm supposed to approach this fight. I just freeze in fright and he eviscerates me.

>>169356479
I've been fucking around with bowblade, I use rifle spear, and I like having the Evelyn handy. I might say fuck PVP caps and level it to whatever, but for now I'll just put it into VIT I guess.

>>169356771

Use the Repeating Pistol. Until 23 BLT, Evelyn is worse than the Hunter's Pistol. RP shoots two bullets as well so it'll deal more damage.

>>169356770
Weapon lv? Gems?

>>169356770
Assuming you're a Physical build, pop BB Pellets & Fire Paper. It's possible to have a +9 weapon for the fight early. Early CD's have decent Phys gems. If it's Arc, Lower Pthumeru Fire Axe dudes drop 16% Fire Radials, good on a Saw.

>>169356956

+7 Beast Cutter. PHY and ATK Up gems. Trying to do a 50-25 STR/SKL build. I haven't done Shadows of Yharnam, Amygdala or Cainhurst yet. Maybe I'm just too underleveled.

>>169356952
I'm at 35 BLT though.

>>169357070
Your bl is fine.
>+7
It should be +9.

I'm sure this has been discussed to death before, but what the FUCK happens after you Wake Up?
Is Yharnam fucked for the last time? Does your character just forget everything and get the fuck out, or are they like the other hunters where they're stuck for one reason or another?
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU WAKE UP IN AYYLMAO MODE?

Holy shit, that abhorrent beast was way easier than the one in ailing loran
I'll take it, I guess

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Guidance 3, the spiciest meme of all. Here is your parting gift.
But if you are a tripfag and you say to not to listen to them, should I listen to you?

>>169357343
Shit goes back to normal-ish, and you no longer dream.

>>169357646
that is your call to make friendo

>>169357343
I woke up in beast mode, it was pretty silly.

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>fighting ebrietas
>die to the charge
>go back and collect my echoes and get ready to fight
>die to charge again

>>169357925
Don't lock on, run to her side

>>169357925
Stop trying to fight her at point blank range.

>>169358000

No, it's just she just used that move twice with it. She also just killed me a THIRD time with it right after I got my echoes again. Though, she actually stuck me in a corner and then hit me one more time and that's what got me.

She seems difficult. I try to bait her head slam so I can hit her head a few times, but she seems reluctant to do it.

>>169358032

I'm sticking around at about her max range for her arm sweeps trying to get her to slam her head down.

>>169358086
Then you should never get hit by the charge. When you see tell, start walking the left. When she starts moving, dodge to the left, It should miss you 100% of the time.

You may need to stay slightly farther back. Her head slam has a deceptively long range.

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>>169357925
This is how I bait the headbutts and dodge the charge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmlcpuoU26M

>>169357000
>>169357145
>>169356956

am I supposed to be dodging towards his swipes? not to the left of right? Should I not be locking on?

>>169358353
Always towards in his first phase except for the jumps, charge and spray. Lock on in both phases.

>>169356770
>I really have no idea how I'm supposed to approach this fight
From the left (>>169307521).

Also, everything >>169357000 said.

>>169358296

Well shit, I was dodging right. I dodged left and it missed completely.

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>>169357343
>I'm sure this has been discussed to death before, but what the FUCK happens after you Wake Up?

You're disconnectd from the dream, if you die you die for real, but you get to keep you superhuman strength and agility that you obtained by channeling blood echoes into strength by the doll. You also get too keep all your weapons and cool shit that you gathered throughout your journey.

>Is Yharnam fucked for the last time?

Yep, Chapel Dweller says everyone you didn't send to the Cathedral Ward turned into a beast, went mad or is dead. The whole population is gone, including all of Yharnam's big organizations since you killed the Healing Church's current leader (Amelia), the last Choir scholar (Yurie, the choir girl at Byrgenwerth), Mensis got sucked into the nightmare and you killed the last semi-sane person in it (Micolash).

>Does your character just forget everything and get the fuck out, or are they like the other hunters where they're stuck for one reason or another?

You escape the dream thanks to Gherman granting you mercy and cutting you off from the dream. You will most likely forget everything that happened while you were part of the hunter's dream, but people like Eileen and Djura demonstrate you can somehow retain the memories or maybe get them back after "waking up." However, since you are a hunter, you will go to the nightmare once you die (Unless you killed Orphan and returned him to the ocean, ending the hunter's curse).

>WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU WAKE UP IN AYYLMAO MODE?

You are stuck as a broccoli forever, since the only way to go back to being a human is by using the Caryl Rune tool to remove the Milkweed rune from your mind and the tool is now stuck in the Hunter's dream.

>Meet Gehrman for the first time
>"Try not to think too hard about all of this, just go out and kill beasts."
>first time playing this, think he's either hiding something from me, or just trying to avoid explaining what would be too complex of a situation to take in all at once and avoid confusion
>just now realized that he's telling you this to try and stop you from going mad from insight
I dunno if I'm dense or what for just realizing this two years later.

>>169358660
>You will most likely forget everything that happened while you were part of the hunter's dream
You don't, every hunter remembers what happened when they were bound to the dream. Even the doll tells you that she hopes you will have good memories of the dream, obviously implying that you won't forget anything.

>>169358960
Yeah but Gherman straight up says you will forget everything that happened while you were part of the dream, so there is obviously some contradiction there: some people remember and others don't. Also, Micolash says he's afraid he will forget everything that happened while he was in the nightmare, since he thinks he's actually waking up after you kill him probably because he doesn't know his body in Yharnam is dead, so it is more likely that people forget the dream when they wake up more often than not.

>>169359125
>Yeah but Gherman straight up says you will forget everything that happened
It was a figure of speech.
Micolash says "I'll forget everything" because unlike you he's dead in the waking world, so he can only keep his knowledge by staying in the Nightmare of Mensis.