Dueling Network General - /dng/

I am so fucking triggered as fuck like holy fuck.

Ive topped locals 3 weeks in a row, but last night I get back to back, TO FUCKING BACK OTK'd. Jesus fucking christ. I drive for 40 mins play two fucking games, only playing one turn between all 4 rounds, get the fucking bye, then get OTK'd again because i cant fucking do anything. Fucking hell. WHAT FIELD DO I MAKE TO LAST 1 TURN. Fucking fluffals and mermails just shit out so much damage after just fuckin your field up so hard. I dont know what to do.

Fucking Yosenju beat me last night, after somehow having a 15 card side against god damn shiranui. What the fuck, who sides lancea, imp iron wall, and abyss dweler for a fucking rogue deck. Yesterday was such a god damn waste of time, im pissed.

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Play our deck!

Xth for Links ruined the game.

>>169295141
git
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>>169295104
HOW HARD IS IT TO ADD PENDULUM EVOLUTION TO THE OP? YOU MORON

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>>169295789
PENDURUMGRAPH
OF THE AGES
(Pendy Wendy Holey Woley in TCG)

>>169295789
Sorry I was 4 posts late and didn't want to end up with a duplicate thread because I waited too long.

>>169295141
>What the fuck, who sides lancea, imp iron wall, and abyss dweler for a fucking rogue deck.
Because anti-banish and anti-grave effects are exclusively targetting your fucking petdeck.
There can't possibly be any other banishing and grave effect decks in this game.

>>169296370
Yosenju player is a shit who doesnt know anything about the meta and just parrots what he hears on his facebook yugioh group. I can honest to got not think of any reason why he would run any of those cards except for me.

>>169296762
Counter-siding your locals players is a more valid strategy than siding for meta in locals.
Maybe it's you who is the shitter.

>>169296896
The weekend before a YCS? yeah, sorry, im gonna fine tune my side for the meta, especially when there are plenty of people who top regional at that local. I know I can beat the fucking zoo and WWeidolon players there, i just didnt get the chance to play them. instead, i get stomped by literally whos. God damn, i dont know what to do.

Ive never wanted to quit so hard in my life and play games without the random element. that way I can actually blame myself and focus on improving, because i dont know what to do in this situation. What do you do when you get an artifact handed to you at the start of your turn? cant solemn it, cant play with it there, and killing it doesnt change anything. and even when I might have built momentum, i got a blackrose out without banishing, bam, solemn strike. he pays pennies, and now im out of resources. its not like street fighter where I can see missed damage opportunities or where I left myself open, I COULDNT make plays.

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Anyone know where I can get these Vanguard style cards?

>>169295141
Haha sore loser

>>169297515
You said that you topped the last 3 locals tournaments.
For the sake of argument, I'm going to assume that you topped with the same deck, Shiranui.
If I played locals and I got trounced by Shiranui over and over, I'd side for it.

That's not to mention that Lancea and IIW hit Noids too, which are an actually relevant deck. Are there any Noids players at your locals?

What´s the general opinion on Fusion Enforcers? I bought a display today and traded the entire stuff away because it didn´t interest me.

>>169297574
I swear im usually not. I was on just such a high, on the road to YCS, toppin local, beating meta decks about half of the time. Getting trounced a whole evening just makes me sick to my gut.

>>169297725
Literally one just popped up last night. 60 card grass is greener variant. But maybe. I think what makes me the most mad though isnt that I lost, but that I felt like I had no outs. I straight misplayed against mermails in round 2, but Yosenju. Was so tilted.

>Invocation starting as a $60 card
Seems silly to me, especially when the field is $13.

>>169298010
Yes how dare he side against the guy he expects to meet in his locals that he knows has topped the last 3 tournaments.Fucking retard.

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>>169298010
Yosenju just doing what it does best, killing all fun for the other player.

>>169298001
It's a petdeck set.

>>169298278
yeah. i know, im kinda being retarded, sorry. Just so pissed. I should just refocus and make the edits I was going to anyway.

>>169298387
Good lord. I really dont know the matchup, but that doesnt look too far off from what I played. I wish zombies had a Tenki or a RotA, but thats just a minor gripe. No idea he could get away with so few monsters in the main.

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>>169298605
Just be thankful Yosenju can't do this anymore.

>>169298387
>no demise

???

>>169298784
I think that decklist was from before it was a thing.

>>169298784
>yosenju return to hand
>demise tosses them all away
wew

@169298905
You aren't getting a (You) that easily faggot

>>169298905
You can resolve demise discard effect before returning yosenjus to hand

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GOD BLESS XYZ
GOD BLESS THE LIGHTNING
GOD BLESS YU-GI-OH!

>>169295789
What's the point? They turned a starter deck into a box set to cash in on pendulums final days. They're dead once links start.

>>169298774
satellarknight ptolemaeus unlimited when?

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Why is Xyzfag so annoying?

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>>169300034
never ever

Will Greedy Venom increase in price or decrease? What do you guys think?

>>169298387
Chain Burn does it better.

>>169300034
When they ban CDI and release Azzathoth as the YCS 2017 prize card.

>>169300403
Increase
I want three or four copies as it is

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>>169299346

>>169302254
I had a seizure.

>>169302298
That wasn't a seizure, it was an orgasm.

>>169299346
>Literally Blitzkrieger

nice.

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Going on a non meta tournament tomorrow, going with this. Any advice? What could I side?

>>169302636
>number S39
>SS 1939
>BLITZ KRIEGER
LIMITIERTE AUFLAGE

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>>169302254
Yes my bro The Lightning is a staple.

>>169302636
I know. I want a copy of that version to use at locals.

>>169300126
Why are fusion fags so quiet?

How do I fill out my trade binder? What should I put into it?

>>169302876
>Cyber Dragons topping in last YCS
>guys Im going to a non-meta tourney with a deck that topped ;)

>>169303025
its not on the meta list so I can play it

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>>169302964
MEMES

>>169303096
God your such a fucking retard if you think this card is really going to do anything.

>>169302636
>The Japanese romaji translated is Shining Numbers 39: King of Wishes, Hope the Lightning

Fucking beautiful.

>>169302876
Anti-Dogoran is garbage and can't br summoned off Slumber.

>>169302876
>41 cards

>>169303193
I bought it for the memes hoping it'll grow in price because of dumb youtuber. Even if it's dumb to have bought so many, it wasn't to play it.

I just realized, Link Summoning is gonna tank what little value Flying "C" had. Holy fuck.

>flying C their board
>they just use it to summon Link Spider or some shit

Granted, Dimensional Barrier exists now which makes Flying "C" irrelevant anyway.

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at least when links comes everyone will drop dimensional barrier R-RIGHT?

>>169303508
just to precise it, I didn't bought it because of a youtuber, I bought it because dumb youtubers hyped it, so scrubs would want to buy it.
apparently it didn't work so well with the demand and how low the price is right now.
At least I have a funny meme in my binder.

>>169303508
>hoping it'll grow in price because of dumb youtuber
Fucking retard.

>>169304030
see
>>169303994

i'm still kinda dumb for getting so many, but it only costed me 5 bucks so I don't really care.

>>169303882
D barrier should just go to 1. Fuck that card

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>>169295104
>tfw not enough extra deck space for everything you need

is ragnazero worth it? it jsut dies to le zoodiac dragon anyway even if you do get a trade and a draw.

>>169303882
No, and because of Links not caring about it, it wont get set to 1. ;)

>>169303994
>>169304128
>bought it because of a youtuber
>getting so many
Fucking Retard.

>>169304320
I didn't bought it because of a youtuber, learn to read faggot ;^)

>>169304238
What if they put Drident into def?

>>169304238
I'd say she's worth it, it's a quick effect right? you can just pop their bullhorn before they overlay into drancia.

>>169304436
And what if they summon bullhorn in def?

>>169304393
>didn't learn to read
>bought it because of a youtuber
Fucking retard.

>>169304320
>giving attention to a tripfaggot
He is french, they are born retards.

>>169304540
You'll either get drancia then or stop them from attacking with it.
but yeah I never knew baout the "face-up attack position" clause, never really took a close look at the card when it was being used.

>>169304540
>>169304594
:^(

>>169304594
>giving him attention
fug off

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>Inb4 Red-Eyes fags

>>169302876
>metalfoes fusion
kill yourself

>>169305879
But red-eyes are now totally OP, they were never able to swarm the field so having only one monster doesnt hurt them and they are just as shit as before! Wuhuuu

>>169305879
One thing that's bothered me for awhile is. Why is Kaiba so hooked on Blue-eyes when he had Chaos Emperor Dragon.

>>169306098
I always thought he was the main villain watching the show as a kid

>>169306098
Because he's the reincarnation of Priest Seto, Kisara was his waifu who happened to house the BEWD, and because of that, he obsesses over it.

So Kaiba is actually the biggest waifufag of all time when you think about it.

>>169306780
Does that mean Kaiba is /ourguy/?
Spends alot of his money on recreational tools, dislikes people in general, loves his dragons and waifus.

>>169307025
Except your an unsuccessful neet that never topped a relevant tourney nor made a succesfull company that can launch cards into space because lol.

>>169307025
>handsome billionaire skellington with a dragon fetish
>extremely devoted to his waifu to the point of making a theme park and personal jet in her likeness
>destroyed a 4-of-a-kind card worth millions just so it could never be used against him
>got EXTREMELY autistic when that pleb Wheeler revived his Blue-Eyes and used it against him
>despite being rich as fuck, the ex-World Champion and being smart enough to create solid vision, deck is actually an inconsistent pile of shit
>wastes hundreds of millions of dollars to build a space station for the hell of it
>has an /ss/-tier little brother that has canonically crossdressed at least once
>has no friends and is genuinely anti-social as fuck
>is an arrogant jerk to literally everyone, even his brother at times
>always loses to the MC

He can't be /ourguy/ because he's actually successful. But he's something else alright.

>>169308174
>be world champion
>strongest combo is unsearchable saki+crush card combo

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I just bought a Dark Magician set and 3x Gold/Silver Gadget.

Can I survive the Links Onslaught?

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>>169303525
>summoning Link Spider with an effect monster

>>169308174
I wish I could inherit my father's corporation and revamp a dying card game with the billions it has.

>>169308713
Do you have three Dark Magical Circles?

>>169308592
Good duelists just draw the cards they want.

>>169308870
This, it's how it works in everyone's dream duels r-right?

>>169308854
No, but I will get them when they finally reprint. Its too expensive now.

>>169308870
>>169308974
>playing monopoly with family
>only me and my brother left
>brother has most of the properties and more money
>keep the game going for 3 more hours because I always pulled the best cards and rolled the dice perfectly to avoid his shit
>got to the point where I was counting the cards to tell him what he's going to draw next and calling my own dice rolls correctly almost every turn
You have to believe that you're a reincarnation of an Egyptian figure with magical game powers, or else you'll never be a good duelist.

How are you suppose to play Dark Magicians? Are you even suppose to use the Timaus fusions, Dark Paladin, Sorcerer of Dark Magic or even Dark Magician Girl and the support cards for her and Dark Magician of Chaos like Dark Burning and Chaos Scepter Chaos Blast?

I don't understand.

>>169309596
>How are you suppose to play Dark Magicians?
You arent supposed to play them. You are supposed to have empty and purposeless feelings of nostalgia from them.

>Castle Link
>the 2 effects are loosely based off Chess castling and Chess King Piece movement
wow, I'm slow

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>>169309596
All of that is beyond wrong.
For Dark Magician, run 3 of him, 1-2 Of his illusion variant, 3 circles, 3 eternal soul, 2 navigate, the rest of his support as you see fit in 1s and 2s, then run stunshit.

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>>169310201
Oh and 3 rod and apprentice illusion magician when she comes out. Almost forgot.

>>169308974
You wouldn't believe how many times I've thought "oh, I'll draw this card next" and end up actually drawing it

>>169308724
I haven't actually gotten around to looking at the known Link Monsters yet, I just named the first one to come to mind.

>>169309057
They'll get their reprints right after Denko Sekka ;^)

>>169310201
>>169310412
Did Yugi ever keep the fake dark magician or where they all counterfeits?

Also, it seems rather dangerous to run 3 Apprentice Illusion Magicians, How about I just run 1 of her and Dark Magician Girl? The deck already has a lot of high level monsters

>>169309752
Okay, I finally got round to understanding this card after being confused since its reveal, and my initial suspicion was right. It's one of the most situational shit cards I've ever seen. Links were a mistake

>>169308174
>virgin and gay for atem
i think otherwise

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>>169310858
Or maybe in pic related?

How make powerful Link monsters?
With Synchro and Xyz, the rule of thumb was high level/rank = stronger monster, but Link monsters don't care about levels, a level 10 material is as good as a level 1.
You will never be able to use 2 level 9 monsters and make a Link as strong as V.F.D., Links only care about how many materials you use, and 2 mats Links are about as strong as a rank 3.

Are we entering an era of spammy low level monsters decks?

>>169311236
There will almost definitely be Link Monsters that state "2 Level 7 Dragons" or "if you Link Summoned this card with 2 Level 7 Dragons, you can use this effect;" in their effect box.

>>169311236
It was always a low level monster spam format since late 2008. If anything, Token generators like Gofu and Scapegoat will probably become staples.

>>169310936
That was a real Dark Magician. Just another variant.

You do NOT run Dark Magician girl. You run 3 apprentice because she is a searcher and an honest and a solid body, plus she can r6 into Norito and then xyz change into Ebon Illusion.
You run 3 DM and 1-2 Illusion, then 3 of her. That's 7-8 with all but Dark Magician being able to ss themselves.

I don't know why you would run dark magician girl.

>>169311431
Why that monster would even be a Link and not a Xyz?
It defeats their scaling mechanism, you wouldn't be able to use Link monsters as material.

>>169311796
Because Xyz are inferior to Links.

>>169311148
Oho! When is this coming?

>>169311236
Link 1/2 will be the new R4nk

>>169312387
L1nk*

>>169311148
>new cards
Broken anime cards like Soul Charge here we go!

My personal theory is that Konami is actually not interested in money at all. Yugioh is just a platform for them to execise power and feeling empowered by this. Making shit products and seeing how people still eat that shit up must be giving them quite the boner.

This is the only way I can explain their """""marketing strategy""""".

>>169303254
It can in the TCG ruleset

Did anyone buy a box of fusion enforcers? What are the pull rates on the invoked cards? I don't want them but I want to use them for store credit.

>>169312902
No it can't, actually, Julia asked R&D and they said you cannot.

>>169312857
I'm actually surprised by the lack of YGO pachinko machines
unless there are YGO pachinko machines
I dont count Duel Terminals as pachinko machines

>>169313265
Please show me proof, my autistic locals don't belive me

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>Dueling Book is officially undergoing maintenance now
Are we finally getting it?

>>169313529
Is that a dueling network clone? the UI is exactly the same

>>169313313
I wish I had a screencap from AdCon, anon, but I don't. I'll try to go ask them to link my to the source.

>>169311748
Well, it's just that every time Dark Magician appears Dark Magician Girl isn't far behind, so I assumed they were a duo deckwise as well.

>>169313529
>DB is implementing Links right now
>Servers still won't work

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>>169313529
maybe?

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>want to make a pure x-sabers deck for shits
>stumped on the fucking extra deck because there's so many good synchros but so little space
>don't know what a modern synchro extra looks like anyway

>>169313869
Souza is the go-to imo if you want pure X-Sabers.

>>169313869
>so many good synchros

>>169313714
They still could be in a way, but only if Jewart would just release Magi Magi already

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>>169313869
>So many good Synchros

The extradeck was a mistake.

>>169315224
Xyz were a mistake

>>169315224
Union was a mistake
Gemini was a mistake
Ritual was a mistake

So is the meta changing or is link monsters just gonna be a new type of meta, so there would be two different kinds?

Cubics getting top 20 at a post-RATE regional. Not bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJpsJc1_yYM

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How do I make Gren good?

>>169315348
Get out of my dimension, synchro scum

>>169315348
YGO was a mistake

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5th Eternal Reminder that Red-Eyes is best Dragon Bro


Chick is a Red-Eyes edition

>>169315483
>video of capitalfag watching and talking about a video

>>169315557
You need to run 60 cards so you can banish more. Also, run gold sarc so you can search necro AND get the free banish from his effect going off.

Why do you guys call yourselves duelling network general?

That went down.
Why not ygpro general or yugioh general?

>>169315557
Brilliantsworns

>>169315723
Because we miss it so much.

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>joins your side

>>169315709
Damn I'm retarded can't believe I forgot sarc. Thanks

>>169315764
Would probably be the most consistent but 90% of my decks are Sworn based

>>169315868
>play fluffals.
>opponent gameciels my toad
>rank 8 using their kaiju next turn
felt good

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Everyday until MACR

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>>169316008
Np, my fellow Dimensional Degenerate. If it's any help, this is what I like to run in my banishing deck.

>>169316687
run inferno tempest just for shits and giggles

>>169316527
Why would you have a rank 8 in your flufal deck?
Is it just to counter kaijuus?

Also toad?
I don't remember that being a fluffal, unless you mean the archetype in that case, how did you run both fluffals and toads?

>>169316939
Because of penguin, fluffals now have access to bahamut shark who summons the toad, and i am sure people run fluffals in a way to shit out Bahamut, treatoad and Harbringer

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>>169316807
Huh, I actually forgot that card existed. That'll be a pretty good side tech for when I'm up against power decks

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being a geargiafag is suffering

The recent geargia cards are pretty awful apart from this one, and he's still only ever good when used on turn one because of all the dumb restrictions on him. I love their artworks because they have so much personality but using Zenmaister to attempt to trigger the effects of Geargianchor, Geargiattacker or Geargiarmour's is not a viable playstyle konmai. pls no more flips :(

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>>169315348
Fuck off.

>>169316527
Which R8?

>>169315348
r4 is da mistake desu

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>>169315614

>>169317123
Right I forgot the shark

>>169315723
bcuz fags cry about

>>169317443
>Dark
What the fuck
I see the deviantart url, but everything else is the exact same except it's fucking dark.

>>169316687
the lvl 6 synchro fire first can ss maju

>>169318379
Maybe I'll look into splashing some tooners in there, thanks.

>>169313714
She's a dark spellcaster and she's in some of the card art. Apart from that she has zero synergy at all.

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UNBAN ME

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FREE US

Can we just unban everything Synchro related now?

Redpill me on the new fluffals pls btw I've been out of ygo for a while, just want to know about new fluffal stuff

>>169321212
Yata being banned is unfair, if you get locked by a 10 years combo now you are a retard and deserve to suffer.

>>169321268
only Kraken frightfur and fluffal pinguin are good.

Pinguin let's the deck go in Norden > Bahamut > Memefrog

Kraken is in one word: solid.

>>169321093
Links will set you free.

>>169321212
Such as?
Fishborg Blaster and what else?

>>169321331
I bet you think that Ciber Jar/Last Turn/Fiber Jar are fair grounds by today's standards too.

hell I bet you never played/played against these cards when they where legal.

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We're still playable in the new meta,right?

>>169321668
I did.
Remember the goat format? It was beter than having to wait 5 minutes for your opponent to chain ratpier every turn.

>>169322075
Of course, people here are just being retarded and thinking that Links kill Pendulums.

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>check /a/
>no arc-v thread
>create a new one
>no replies

is this franchise ded?

>>169322367
yeah, it won't be like that if yuya had bigger boobs

>>169322367
/a/ was full of degenerates so once the nes of Links killing their favorite decks came out, they all bailed

>>169322137
>goat
I still have my goat control deck from that time.
I must agree, nowadays the game is
>win the coin flip
>play solitaire for a while
>end with china's great wall: the board
>end turn
then player 2 must try to break that board, if (s)he fails, then they move to game 2.

I must admit that I love my Dracopals and Zoos but I would love a slower format.

>>169321591
Honestly at this point you could put every tuner and Synchro to 3 as a good start-point except Trishula. Ban Brain Research Lab to prevent Gusto Exodia from being a thing as a result; not like anyone runs it as it is.

I expect something to break and result in Synchro madness, but we haven't had Synchros as a top-tier deck since 5Ds ended; it's been long enough of a wait.

>>169322367
that show is
wait till 6 and whatever meme name ya'll decide
oh and quit being fags and remove the dashes
say it with me now, yugioh, its not that hard

>>169314074
>>169314503
t. xyzfags

>>169320456
what game?

>>169322075
Donte is a pendulum now?

>>169322782
>except Trishula.
put him to 3 just for giggles
he's so easy to out an anyways.

>>169322782
Not without us getting the Brionac errata first

>>169323410
yes

>>169323410
We're all Donte Anon

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>>169302964
get a bunch of custom cards to make it look cool

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Buy us, we're good magicians

>>169323727
Tune Magician is good. Timebreaker isn't, the little shit is useless.

>>169323934
He forces negations. Timebreaker target crystal wing is going to force the crystal wing negation, since if it doesn't, they lose the wing for the turn and you run roughshod all over their field.
He also outs barrier statues, if you're from last year.
He can force a drident pop.
Not for nothing is he one of the best magicians in the whole deck.

>>169324268
How much deck space would you waste on him though?

>>169324476
Two or three. Don't forget that he's also very recurrable, same as any other magician.

''No matter what the situation, neither player can offer any monster as a Tribute.''

It's funny how ridiculously worded card effects were on the early days of ygo

>>169324972
>No matter what the situation

That sounds so silly.
It's like they didn't even try.

Never really sold cards online before, where is the best place for a regular guy to sell singles?

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Play us, we're cute.

>>169325527
I play right in my shitty petdeck

left can fuck off for being shit but objectively better because she's white

>>169325607
>the fake who is basically a cosplayer
>superior to Mana

>>169325897
>nigger
>superior to anything

>>169325965
>Egyptians
>niggers
Well done anon, you've been indoctrinated. Guess they really wuz kangs.

>>169325607
>>169325897
>>169325965
Fuck you,too. i play both in my deck, then they fuck me in my dreams.

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Play us, we're sexy.

>>169325527
Savage Colosseum Magician Girls are fun.

>>169327219
How are they post-links?

>another week has passed in Zoodiac hell
>hope is all but lost, only noid players even have the spirit left to show up to locals
>every book ever written has been read 3 times by now
>I can hear the Ratpiers coming in the night, savaging deck after deck, I'm sure to taken soon
>still no sign of Konami coming to save us. At this point I can only assume we've been abandoned for good

>>169327656
Metalfoes have more tops than Infernoids though.

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FOR THE LOVE OF RA
PUT MAGI MAGI IN DUELIST SAGA

>>169327656
I still do not understand how people can be defending rat.

Yes Zoodiac Mirrors have important decisions. No that does not justify one archetype being the be all end all.

For fucks sake, I lived through Rulers, I quit on Necroz and came back since, but Zoodiacs just make me feel sick from all the bullshit they can do off one card. If Konami does not ban Zoodiac Ratpier immiediately then I do not know what the fuck they're doing.

>>169328030
Watch out as they limit Tenki instead.

I'm thinking of selling some of my pricier pulls to Troll and Toad, is this a bad idea and should I just go to locals and see if anyone is looking for it?

>>169328030
rat to 2
barrage to 1
kill the terrortop engine in some way

along with some hits to all the gay backrow zoods can run like strike it should deal with the deck imo

>>169328146
>limit tenki while barrage is at 3
my
FAVORITE
meme

>>169328030
Nekroz mirror and D R A G O N mirror required more thought than this. Hell, the only recent t1/t0 meta we've had that DIDN'T have more thought than this was fucking EmEM meta, which Konami hit literally a week later.

>>169328030
Rat to 1-2 Seems fair. It's only cancerous because you Can Go into Drancia, Search a card and have a Rank 4, sometimes Rank 8 turn 1 off of just 1 card.

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>>169328278
Errata Takenborg to only letting you SS WIND monsters for the rest of the turn.
But yeah this seems pretty consisece and kills the deck's most overpowered parts while keeping the deck-itself somewhat viable.

>>169328278
Strike should've been at 1 a long-ass time ago. I haven't the foggiest why Konami's let it go for this long, since it's not like it's making them any money since the last MegaTins.

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>Pendulum fails in being splashed into everything to easy sell because they require a lot more resources
>New extra deck type completely limits the previous mechanics literally forcing you to play them
>Players scream "YES, FINALLY SOME BALANCE" when this shit it's just going to end up shitting them out as fast as possible like it's already being done with the bad links
>Illusion increased strategy with positioning when all that matters is the one or two links that the best deck plays that you have to know if they can benefit you
>Sucessfully introduced a new mechanic that you are phyically forced to play while having the fanbase saying "THANKS FOR SAVING THE GAME"

Bravo Konami

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What went wrong? Because these cards are really fucking bad

>>169328678
well you see anon there hasnt been a banlist in 7 fucking months so how could they get rid of strike?

>>169328721
I run Raging Dragon as a 1-of in Red-eyes because sometimes a 3000 body is useful when big-eye or Dracosac won't work.

>>169327641
Decent if they go on turn 2, kaleido chick is their best shortcut to pull out Leo Dancer in a single turn and then make said Leo Dancer swing twice with 7000 ATK, and unless you're playing against majespecters, you're crashing whole boards with no survivors if leo gets to enter the battle phase.

The only bad side of post-links lunalight is that you can no longer setup a turn 1 board of Drancia, Dragostapelia and Panther Dancer with some backrow.

>>169328721
requires an xyz monster

>>169328721
Only useful in their own decks or decks that can afford to tech in Xiangke. Not even the most useful methods of removal in their own decks. Recurring ability not terribly useful. Hella telegraphed as a play, making it really easy to stop.

>>169328797
I'm getting sick of this "banlist when we feel like it" thing that KoA's been pulling. Remember when it was a big fucking deal to go without a banlist change after 3 months? I miss that. At least when OCG decides there's nothing really worth changing, they put out a notice saying so.

People get worried and ask TCG about it, and KoA's asinine staff tells them to read a fucking book.

>>169328721
Literally only works if you use Rank-up or that jank as fuck Magician that let you turn Ranks into levels.
That said i'm pretty upset that Raging Dragon was just Rebellion 2.0. Would've loved it if it was a fusion version of OE Rebellion or even a synchro version.

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>>169328030
>Yes Zoodiac Mirrors have important decisions.
this isn't even completely true and YCS Seattle is the prime example. Noah Greene outplayed Alex Rodriguez by a mile and still lost

>>169329573
Odd-Eyes evolved into a Xyz/Pendulum
Magicians evolved into a Synchro/Pendulum
Performapals should evolve into Fusion/Pendulum. What went wrong?

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>>169328703
>tfw shitters are actually praising Konami for effectively killing off countless decks

I swear to God I have never seen a more battered and cucked customer base in my life.

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>>169329892
but

>>169329892
They made the scale 0 too late to make trump witch really usable

>>169323041
Reverse imaged searched it. It's Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V: ARC League Championship

>>169328459
I never thought I'd actually miss rulers. Not only were their battles with Prophecy actually cool, but I will always remember that short span of time after they all went to one when everything was kinda viable. Being able to play Harpie Ladies and actually win was worth all of it.

Fuck, I might actually be getting nostalgic towards the time between Rulers and Necroz, and it was almost yesterday. It was full of great stuff. I will always remember the childish happiness of having an actually playable fusion deck on my hands again when I was testing first drafts of Shaddolls, back when everyone was laughing because
>Fusion Spells

One really does not appreciate what he has until he's lost it.

>>169330160
We should create our own banlist desu, i miss DN days

with gambling and hookers

>>169330036
Performapals are bad at fusion anyway, They don't have enough Odd Eyes for Metal Claw, Gatling Ghoul needs a level 5 or higher DARK monster, Performapals don't have that either, Brave Eyes requires a Warrior monster and only Dag Daggerman is a warrior. Honestly, Why the fuck does Yuya have more fusion friendly deck than xyz or synchro? Performapals have random levels so chances of xyz summoning are small and because they have no tuner monsters synchro is impossible. The fuck?

>>169330160
Can you imagine YGO becoming bad enough to make you miss Zoodiacs?
This may happen.

>>169330471
Back to playing Tag Force Special I guess.

And MTG if Wizards get their shit together and make a good format for once.

>>169328703
>Players scream "YES, FINALLY SOME BALANCE" when this shit it's just going to end up shitting them out as fast as possible like it's already being done with the bad links
This is probably the saddest thing of this all. Its just so stupid that people can be this blind.

I wish somebody could make a collage of all the posts saying that the game will slow down and will get balanced by links.

>>169330939
I thought every format in magic is absolutly god tier, calculated to be utterly optimized using the founders deep mathematical knowledge?

>>169331370
Well, the game WILL slow down initially, assuming Konami doesn't blow their load in the very first pack of the new series. Shit like Rat into Rat into Decode Talker into Rat into I don't even fucking care here's 2 Xyz and a Decode Talker fuck you should be hit to impossibility, at least initially.

I'm not hoping that it'll make the game better in the long run; I'm hoping that it'll scare off the cancerous masturbation players for a while.

>he hasn't made Link Monster proxies to make a top tier deck for the Links format
and you call yourself a duelist?

>>169331370
Are we already revising history?
Some people were infuriated with the new rules, some were trying to be optimistic, and only a few DMfags claimed the game was saved, half of them being obvious trolls

>>169331370
It literally will slow down

Even those shitty "No wait you can still make big boards!!!" combos are half as disgusting as what you could do right now with the same hand

>>169331702
But anon, I have.

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>>169331702
>building a deck for a format that is still at a minimum 5 months away

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>>169331724
Sadly I only bothered to save one screenshot with two posts. But I remember a lot more in both /dng/ and in particular /a/rc-v will yield. Not to mention outside of here, in places like pojo.

>>169331548
Wizards wanted us to think that, but recently stopped fooling themselves and actually changed their ban Policy regarding standard. Too bad only after Coco AKA MTG's own Ratpier left the format naturally. Compared to it the recent banned cards were mild inconvieniences.

I wish people in Poland could afford Legacy.

>>169331370
The game will "slow down" ever so slightly at release.
Issue is speed isn't that big of an issue because of how strong stun cards are.

>>169331940
Don't you want to win Worlds, anon? If you're not on your way to Worlds this year then why the fuck are you playing this garbage format instead of preparing for the new one?

>>169332009
People that don't understand basic game design can't have opinions.
People that haven't played at least 3 years of competitive can't have opinions on competitive.
People who can't even make their own decks without netdecking half of the recipe can't have opinions on deckbuilding.
People who can't even be assed to do basic proofreading don't deserve opinions.

>>169331694
>I'm hoping that it'll scare off the cancerous masturbation players for a while.
The funny thing about this is that while masturbation decks will be worse, the amount of time it'll take for them to make a rudimentary play is much longer thanks to links. so basically, sitting through masturbation is even worse now, even if the decks are worse, which doesn't matter since most masturbation decks are trash anyways.

Would using Duel Links mobile be any good at helping me get comfortable and practice to prepare to learn better about the real game?
Or would it be counterproductive and just give me bad habits?

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reminder that xyz and synchro didnt ruin yugioh
reminder that the things that did ruin yugioh include:
>"special summon this monster from your hand and then add a monster from your deck to your hand"
>cannot be targeted
>unaffected by card effects
>you can xyz summon this card by using 1 material
>you can use this effect to search a search card
>"once per turn, during either player's turn"
>generic xyz and synchro
feel free to add to this list

>>169332536
What the fuck do you think if you play a game with reduced zone number, not supporting any form of modern summoning method and not featuring cards with basic hard removal?

>>169332631
Oh i'd like to add one.
"You can XYZ summon this card by using an XYZ monster as a material"

>>169332631
Dont forget
>negate the activation and then destroy that card

>>169332536
Just download Legacy of the Duelist. I'm sure you can probably get it for "free" on PC.

>>169332631
>"once per turn, during either player's turn"
We have a few nice ones of those.
It's just that when you attach a removal effect to that that shit gets out of hand.

>>169332960
I think its fine in the case of cards like Ragna Zero.

>>169333028
Or Flare metal and Dora.

Official /DNG/ banlist

Limit: Molmorat, Shurit

Unlimited: Dragon Rulers,Every pendulum monster, Cyber Stein, Every Qli, Every other Necroz

(Taking the new rules into account)

>>169333540
>Unbanning MY BOY UNICORE
I wonder if you played the deck. You really only USE one Shurit unless you brick or have no other option.

>>169333540
Unlimited Trish, Dandylion, T.G Librarian and Dragon ravine?

Fact: Twin Twisters and Solemn Strike need to be at 1.

>>169333698
Not Trish but ban Kirin

>>169333827
>Twin Twisters
no, backrow/pendulum babby
>Solemn Strike need to be at 1.
>yes, along with d-barrier (or d-barrier can go to zero as 1 of gets sacky)

>>169333540
>Every pendulum monster
Pls no Kirin.

>>169333827
>wanting twin twister to go to one ever
Pendulumshitter detected (only pendulumfags would want both hit)

I agree with strike though, that shit should've been limited ages ago.

>>169333540
now post the Official /DNG/ power rankings

>>169333827
>Twin Twisters
How else am I going to deal with set 3 pass.

>>169333992
Yeah that nigga stays banned

>>169333540
Put Reborn to 1 for Links.
Put EVERY Solemn to 1 except the Aesir one because >aesirs
Kirin can stay at 1.
Twin Twisters can go to 1.
D-Barrier can go to 0 or 1.
Ratpier can go to 2.
Barrage can go to 0.
BTH to 3.
All Nekroz monsters that were previously restricted to 2, except Shirt who can go to 1.
Takemtoborg to 1.
Crystal Wing to 1.

That should just about do it. I miss anything else?

>>169334074
Considering you have to go -2 in order to pendulum a single fucking monster come Links, I think getting TT smacked down is fair. Let the Pendulumfags have SOMETHING.

>>169334316
Me ;) > Raita the Lightning > Mariomon > CuteGirl

>>169333992
>>169333540
Skullcrobat, monkeyboard and plushfire can stay at one, one is a stratos clone, another is not a hard OPT SS from deck and monkeyboard is cancer.

>>169334585
>Crystal Wing to 1
There's nothing broken about Crystal Wing.

>>169334585
Give me Trish to 3 in exchange for Crystal wing and you've got a deal.

>>169334384
If anybody ever does that to me in real life, I'm just gonna stab them in their hand. Not even kidding, I've already been to jail before.

>>169334679
>unban stratos
>keep skullcrobat at 1 because "he's a stratos clone"
???

>>169334679
>Skullcrobat
>even remotely as powerful as Stratos

>>169334585
>Twin Twisters can go to 1.
>D-Barrier can go to 0 or 1.

Why nigga people are just gonna play any of the mirror forces instead

>>169334724
NO TRISH

>>169332631
many of then are about xyz lel

>>169334850
then gimme Crystal wing to 3.
Synchrofags are starving for easy to make power cards they can splash into a bunch of decks.

>>169334690
He'll have fewer answers come Links because he's one of the few good Synchros that can progress without running Links and just climbing. Like Red Nova if it was somehow a meta staple.

>>169334724
Synchro Trish? You can have 2. Honestly, you shouldn't NEED more than 2. If you need that much removal and can make Trish consistently enough to justify 3, your deck is bad.

>>169334585
twin twister (TT still makes me think of torrential) should stay at 3 to punish stunshitters.

Your real enemy is Anti-spell fragrance which I personally think is fine as pendulums need the cockblock but links make the hit more reasonable.

>>169334832
Being able to search monkeyboard straight away (his list would have both at 3) would just make PePe 2.0 Links edition featuring zoodiacs a thing which would be cancerous as fuck.

>>169335031
>you shouldn't NEED more than 2.
It's the thought that counts.
You don't need more than one glow-up but having it at 3 shows that they don't think the card is OP.
But yeah, 2 is also fine. Just give me a bomb for when I play synchro toolbox.

>>169334850
>Why nigga people are just gonna play any of the mirror forces instead
Yeah. That's the point. Remove 1-2 cards so that 3-5 cards can be useful for once.

>>169335148
>D-Barrier
Mah bad, my mind went to D-prison

definitely at 1 or 0

>>169302941
>orica
It's shit.

>>169328721
Worst part is ended up using Rebellion more than Raging due to Absolute and the fact he blows scales

>>169334585
>All Nekroz monsters that were previously restricted to 2, except Shirt who can go to 1.
Please no.

>>169328721
I only use Odd-eyes Rebellion as a beater and an out to Dark Destroyer back at Nov 2015. Even though Raging has the better effect, he doesn't clear your scales.

>>169332631
>generic synchro
So Omega?

>>169334585
>Hitting Taketomborg when everyone and their mother only uses one in the terrortop engine
>Hitting Crystal Wing when AWWI isn't even tier 1 in the OCG and Ultimayo is a meme.
???

>>169335317
>due to Absolute
Aren't both summonable by Absolute?

>>169335068
>PePe 2.0 Links edition featuring zoodiacs
I want you to know I legitimately puked a bit at this thought.

Thanks.

>>169335458
I've done playtesting with everything at 2. It's not bad. Really the deciding factor is how easy it is to do the Kaliedo Unicore combo.

>>169335642
Do YOU have better ideas on how to cripple the engine? Other than saying "Terrortop to 0", that is. Some of us would still like to be able to play Speedroids without being cancerfaggots.

>>169334585
>Takemtoborg to 1.
Sounds pointless, just ban it.

>>169335794
Ban invoker and Dante.

>imaginary banlist discussion
You sad, sad man.

>>169335915
Didn't OCG hit Donte to 1?

>>169335974
Donte. To. 0.
BA has been meta longer than any other meta deck I can think of, it's time just cut out that tumor.

>>169335950
Maybe if Konami put out a banlist (or even a schedule for the banlist or so much as a "we're working on it"), this discussion wouldn't be happening.

>>169334585
>D-Barrier can go to 0 or 1
pretty dumb you should hit the mirror forces since we are slowing down the game.Same for spot removal cards from ED should go to 1.

>>169335794
Just limit terrortop, you don't need to ban it.

>>169335794
Put Takenborg to 0 and Print a replacement with a "You can Only SS synchros from the ED"

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>>169332631
>Not listing the original thing that fucked Yu-Gi-Oh up

>>169336323
>/dng/'s imaginary format has power of what's printed.
Perhaps read the whole conversation before having input, maybe?

>>169332821
I'm not a criminal, and do not support criminal activity.

>>169335659
Yeah, but I meant you normally don't summon those by Xyz. And Raging doesnt clear scales

>>169336461
just play duel links to learn core mechanics. the differences between duel links and real yugioh are extremely easily learnt so you won't miss out on anything.

>>169336416
The question was 'How do we fix the Terrortop engine without fucking over speedroids"
I'm answering that specific question.
If not just ban Takenborg anyways, Terrortop to 0 Would be a worse hit and the engine would just be smaller and less consistent.

>>169332631
>all things that only took off during the XYZ era
Woah.. really makes you think...

>>169334585
What a shitter.

>>169336634
How about "Taketomborg to 0, but not if you're playing Speedroids". Fuck those cunts that splash it in to their shitty archetypes to get some cheap Synchros out.

where is niconico anon?

>>169337372
fuck that cunt, he should at least tell what the video is about

>>169332259
>masturbation will be worse
in literally what way is that possible. Do you think shitty link spiders and honeybots are making it worse? they cant be XYZd with, their effects are pretty shit.

The same cards in a non-link format can do much worse combos than they can now

Fuck OFF retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTCKxrhermg&feature=youtu.be

>>169328703
God, I wish I could slap all those fucktards screaming "SLOW DOWN" and "KONAMI IS FIXING THE GAME"

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>>169337142
>to get some cheap Synchros out.

>>169337725
Did you even read my post?
the decks will be shittier but the worst part about masturbation decks e.g. watching someone loop his monsters will be worse since there are more steps to making a single monster.
Don't call me a retard if you can't even read a post properly dumbass.

>>169336625
Thanks boyo, platonic xo.

>>169336378
Back when machines were still cool, albeit gay.
Now they're just spaceships and waifus.

>>169338169
I almost wish this card wasn't as cancerous as it was.
It's got a really nice card-art.

Supreme King Odd-Eyes, Clear Wing, Dark Rebellion, and Starving Venom when?

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>>169338405
>Not waifu-izing a ship
Laugh at this man

>>169315408
Don't talk shit about ritual, actually made sense

>>169338584
>It's got a really nice card-art.
Nah, it's horrendous.
I hate that I had to use it before.

>>169338718
I like it.
It's a Plant tiger chilling.

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>>169337471
maybe he is a nip

>>169338590
Man, I know "Starve Venom" doesn't make any grammatical sense in English, but it sounds so much cooler than "Starving Venom".

>>169306078
>they were never able to swarm the field
What? Spamming Flare Metals together with Flare and regular Red-Eyes was like their best thing.
>You'll never summon 3 Flare Metals turn 1 again post-Links

>>169338847
The idea is nice, but the execution looks cheap.

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>tfw I haven't played since the new rules were announced
>tfw Not excited, just waiting for the new YGO era to begin.

We are in that weird transition between old rules and new rules where I don't really feel like playing with the old ones but can't fully play with the new ones.

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>>169339143
Just play Duel Links until they update YGOPro.

>>169339110
To be fair, Triple flare metal turn 1 was pretty inconsistent, Double flare was alot easier since you just need pre-prep, Shrine and blackstone and Return.

>>169338195
the worst part about masturbation decks are dealing with a disgustingly retarded first turn field

I can watch somebody wank their cards for days if they end with fuck all

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>>169337725
He is pretty much right. Just look at this webm from a few threads ago.
It's like 18 effects and summons to summon Decode Talker, Crystal Wing, and Titanic.
It's a worse field but than Crystal Wing, Siegfried, and Titanic. But more masturbatory.

>>169339492
How long did pendeldumbs and arc v last?
I swear it all came out 2 years ago.
Is Yugioh THAT dead?

>>169322367
dot do it again

>>169339492
>disgustingly retarded first turn field
Those are pretty easy to spit out without masturbation though. Infact alot of good Turn 1 "unbreakable" boards just use backrow+A omninegator or two.

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>>169339746
>just summon an omni-negator lmao

>>169338652
That ship is a male, witchya gay ass.

>>169332792
also, don't forget
>then you can set that card to your field

>>169339797
>just summon an omni-negator lmao
Doesn't even need to be an omni-negator, but yeah those are pretty easy to bring out.

>>169339545
It's a combo that needs 5 specific cards and cannot sub in dark gate to search one of them as that's also needed later in to generate the field. As such I doubt it's anywhere near that consistent.