/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

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aussie update just leaked for pirates

>>169274402
Is it good?

>>169274437
no clue

Did australia update fix the game?
Improve it at least?

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5th for tsar nicholas ii, rightful ruler of all russias, rightful ikon of all generals, whom the godless commies killed

>>169275437
Commies are heartless. Never trust a commie, it's like a bigot, but worse.

> Stellaris DLC is still months away
> And it'll be overpriced
> And the devs said it'll contain no fixes for either of the game's 2 main problems: the non-existant diplo and the tedious repetetive wars
> And the dyson sphere is a solid shell instead of a concentric series of ringworlds, triggering my physics autism
> And hiveminds are Le Always Ebil meme, don't fucking tell me free pops can't survive in a hive mind society, I lived in fucking China for 6 months and it's exactly the same thing

Brb killing self

>>169276085
And don't forget :
[x] Respectfully disagree

>>169276407
spoonfeed me this meme

>>169276085
I don't get why they don't just copy elements from eu4 and vic2 from the start, the eu4 war, negotiations and war goals are literally perfect and peace time in vic2 is engaging and not boring to shit.
they've copying the unity system from vic and the ideas system from eu4 this next update so I think dev teams at pdx should pay more attention to what their peers are doing

>>169274739
It's bits of improvement, but probably not enough to completely revamp it for you.

Mod support is in through Workshop, though, so you should start seeing things like UI overhauls and whatnot (provided it's possible)

>>169277079
The Paradox official forums has an upboat system.
But the options aren't "agree" and "disagree". You can't disagree, you have to "Respectfully disagree"

>>169274739

Come on guys, post some impressions.
Can I start playing now, is it fun now?

I'm sick and tired of waiting for patches, I just want to play the game I paid for but not if its AI is still shit. Looks really good and the city building seems so fun, it hurts.

>>169277826
none of the core problems got fixed by adding a meme civ, no

>>169278091
what are the core problems

>>169277826
the ai is still shit, im p sure. but since modding is fully out, scan the workshop for shit you might like and it might hook you back into it.

>prince
AI is completely incapable, maybe gets a second city
>king
By turn 20 you are surrounded by a coalition of 3 AI

That's quite a scale...

>>169277079
On the forum, you can rate a post to be pertinent, good or bad.
The options are "pertinent", "agree", and "respectfully disagree".

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>>169279985
How do I express my ANGERY though?
Oppressing my feelings might lead me to depression or even worse

>>169280108
You can only "respectfully disagree".
Gotta preserve their feelings, mate.

>>169280152
Tbh, if I had a forum about a game I make I would only have "Enthusiastically Agree" and "Donate"

>>169280248
Tbh, my options could be "call a faggot", "wishes he was death", "beg for death to kill that dude" and "kinda agree".

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>browsing through my contacts to get some terraforming gas trade deal
>reach my greatest ally's strategic resources
>living metal

>>169277172
Because that would require them to get their shit together

>>169277172
>I don't get why they don't just make the same game but in space

>>169275776
>t. bourgeois

>>169281207
In term of gameplay, commie are like an endgame crisis, except it randomly corrupts your pops.

le communism meme >>

How do I get FErnando Senpai to notice me?

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>>169284276
You besiege all of his planets at once.

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>>169284276
>get
Make him

>>169284914
>tu
kek

The best thing about taking a Ringworld isn't the system, but telling everyone you did it.

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>>169287359
are you the guy from last night?

>>169287504

N-no?

>>169287504
>Saiiban

Aren't those the hive mind birds from the Dev Diaries?

>>169287561
ah ok, he found a ringworld so i just thought maybe you were him

>>169287634
its a randomly generated name... but i think they were birds

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So this is what getting cucked feels like.

>>169279634
The AI is completely incapable with all settings, they just get free settlers with higher difficulties

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>>169290223
>allowing yourself to get cucked by filthy xenos
you bring shame upon humanity

>genocide one just-FTL'd primitives planet because it's in the way of my continental paradise
>everyone hates my guts
>they wall me in
>decide to make it up to them and not genocide anyone else
>still have to go to war because terraforming is slow
>notice I can just cleanse planets as a war goal and it costs slightly less than ceding them
>the purging is IMMEDIATE
I guess it was written in the stars

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>>169287504
>>169288605

>mfw after slaughtering those spear-chucking scum for evolving on *my* 24 tile water world

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>>169290860
>mfw my rogue agent geico gecko falls in love with a god damn cockroach

How's the ground combat in stellaris? Is it at least touched upon a little like in distant worlds?

>>169291250
11.

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>>169291250
its just circle health bars and tiny ui that says how strong they are, but they will probably fix this in a later update (so with our luck 2020)
>>169290860
pic related is also my agent

>>169291250
>ground combat
>stellaris

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>>169290223
you must negotiate a corridor, or else blitzkrieg

PLAYABLE ROBOTS WHEN

How do I git gud at Civ 5? I always have trouble winning games on it but on Civ 4 I can almost always win. Is there a thing I need to change in my strategy to complete games?

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>>169291994
4 cities max

>>169291994

This >>169292090 is written by Sulla btw, a veteran of civ games dating back to civ3 release who was also an alpha tester for 4. He knows his stuff.

>>169292090

What is that guy whining about? I play 8 city games in Civ V all the time and consistently become the big dick on the block.

It's not hard to break even or even generate profit on science or culture or happiness with a fresh city, and once that's done you have access to new lands, new strategic resources and a new place to produce units.

>>169292349
yet you could have a bigger dick with 4

>>169292349
being the 'big dick on the block' in prince difficulty doesn't matter, its a literal fact that 4 cities is the way to go for high level civ 5 games

Has anyone tried the new civ 6 scenario? Looks good.

Is civ 6 good yet

>>169291567
Utopia

You can turn you pops into cyborgs then into synthetics

>>169276085
>It'll be overpriced
>He pays for Paradox DLC

>>169296051
Would you download a battleship, anon? Piracy is bad.

>>169296051
>being a cuck

>>169297453
>being a paracuck

>being

>>169297806
We'll fix it.
t. F. Purifiers

>>169295560
Nope.

>>169296014
PRE-FTL MACHINE COLONY STARTING SCENARIO WHEN?

>>169295560
Yep.

>>169299660
hard sci fi space 4x with no ftl when

>>169299865
REAL LIFE FTL WHEN

>>169295560
Perhaps.

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>>169299885
Never

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>>169299885
there's only more loneliness out there

>>169299660
>managing Moon/Mars/Jupiter colonies
>conflict strictly Human/Human Gundam-style
bretty baller

>>169299885
you can already play ftl in real life

>>169299885
Humans can overcome any engineering hurdle. They can't overcome physics.

>>169300438
Sounds like a challenge.

>>169300438
"Hit it with a wrench" has never been more appropriate

>>169301530
i'm gonna hit the speed of light with a wrench

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>>169299885
ca. 1969

>>169301561
Multiple times
At the same time
Every time and space

>>169299085
>>169299834
>>169300092

Make up your mind.
Let me add some more details.
I'm not a great player, I played 5 on normal.
So all I need is a vaguely competent ai and I'm good. The patch notes look promising.

So, should I go for it?

ROBOT WAIFU WHEN
UTOPIA WHEN
SINGULARITY WHEN

>>169302580
>robot waifu when
5 years
>utopia when
see answer 3
>singularity when
never

>>169302580
>SINGULARITY WHEN
You already have singularities and they love you. Praise the Worm!

>>169300529
The challenge is creating thousands of giant superconducting cables stretched between the Venusian surface and geostationary radiators panels thousands of kilometers across in order to bleed away Venus's excess thermal energy and allow it to be terraformed. That is physically possible, just implausibly difficult to do and dependent on technologies we don't even know are possible. Traveling FTL is a violation of physics and therefore makes terraforming Venus look like doing 1+1=2 by comparison. More than that. It's literally impossible.

Now, maybe our understanding of physics will change, but it won't be because we are TRYING to make something happen. No amount of effort will change how physics works. And if you are throwing out our current conception of physics then you are throwing out your entire means of making predictions and planning for humanity's future in the first place.

>>169302015
Ask again later.

Why did the Worm make me look like that opera singer from Fifth Element.

Does the Worm really love me?

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>decide to boot up a tiny galaxy game in stellaris
>My neighbor is an early start empire with the opposite ethos to me
>Shits out a 2k power fleet while everyone else has at max 700
Welp

>>169304504
>Playing with Cheating AIs.
>Playing on Tiny.

You kinda deserve that mang.

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This scenario is kind of tough. I wasn't anywhere near my goal of 500 gpt and I'm only on Prince.

>>169299885
The mathematics state that the universe itself does not accommodate it

>>169304239
Of course it does, anon. The Worm loves all. Except niggers

>>169305346
Then find some new mathematics that make it work.

I'm only semi-kidding, that's how most progress in math happens.

>>169305449
speaking of niggers how would syncretic evolution work in horizon signal... would the other pop change too or?

>>169305812
the equations are indeed wrong, and there's probably a significant covert effort to keep them that way

>>169303837

Do you guys get this question so often you're sick of it? Because nobody is replying seriously to me. ;_;

Fuck it, I'll pirate the latest one and see what occurs. Hope it's good.

>>169306354
And there you go, little bit of thinking got you the answer

>>169306354
Fine, here's my answer.

It's on tier with G&Ks but with even more potential for development. It just is so innately superior to vanilla Civ V that it will no doubt eventually surpass BNW. However there are kings that still need to be worked out like supposed exploitability (I haven't experienced it yet but a lot of anons bitch about it).

Okay lads, since we know enough about the Ascension perks and starting civics to maybe give a good answer to this...

... How would I best go about playing a race that thinks it's another race? More specifically, a species whose weak bodies and weaker immune systems necessitated the construction of robotic servitors to work the fields and operate the factories, but after a devastating plague annihilated the population and either reduced it to unsustainable numbers or outright extinction, the robots eventually began to see themselves as the caretakers or even children of that race, picking up their mantle and continuing on.

>Super simplistic version: What do you mean I'm a robot? I'm a Human, a child of Those Who Came Before.

so how the fuck do is top wining by having most of the habitable worlds?

Thre is nothing else to spend influence on, and after carving up a bit of space for yourslef before everyone is a massive federation against you, you must colonozie every nook and crany.

>>169307083

A-Anon... Are you okay?

You're supposed to have a colonization explosion in the mid-game, when the stronger +Habitability techs come online.

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>>169307083
>so how the fuck do is top wining by having most of the habitable worlds?

>>169303645
And how exactly are the radiator panels going to dissipate heat in the vaccum of space?

>>169307381
It heat to the Mars so it become warmer.
2 birds one stone.

>>169307381
Radiative cooling, duh.

>>169307381
Via infrared radiation, obviously. ISS has huge radiator panels.

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>>169307083
If you can't colonise then conquer

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>>169306932

Go full AI, be NICE to organics, make your pops cute girls

>>169308152

So I should pretty much go for Synthetic and roleplay out that, although my new species *thinks* it's alive, the old race's "spirit" died in the transfer?

>>169308152
tooby booty soon

>>169308152
lel at the google image search suggestion for that.

>>169308812

It's giving me Nier: Automata?

>>169308935
Yeeep.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=868965217
HOL UP
*vibrates air*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*increases frequency phase by π/2*
THAT WE WUZ
*locally decreases entropy*
LIGHT N' SHIT?

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>tfw still no Babylon 5, BSG, "realistic", Homeworld or Nexus Jupiter Incident shipsets for Stellaris

FFS, whats keeping those people ..

New civ6 patch didn't even fix the "last built" bug. No balance changes worth mentioning either, took them months to release this? What a fucking joke.

>>169310762
you actually play the game with 'show only colonized asteroids', or 'show only asteroids with minerals'... r-right?

>>169312246

B-but they mentioned some improvements to balance and ai...
Please don't crush my hopes and dreams, I'm downloading it now.

>>169310762
How would a space station even work? Do you have to put a recreational module in it/use a party van, or does operation time become irrelevant of you build it the right way, like maintenance and commercial ships?

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Second try. The key is to make nothing but harbors and commercial hubs. Anything else is a waste. Even so I only won by the skin of my teeth. I had to buy a stock exchange on the last turn.

>>169312817
Depends on the usage and size.

You could just go for long deployment time, you could add a recreational module for a larger military station or even go for an all out civilian station with orbital habitats for million people

>>169312360
I just turn off asteroid names and enable the colony highlight

Only just got around to reading the latest Stellaris dev diary. How are people feeling about it?

>>169313704
It being civilian wouldn't affect the moral affect of deployment time, would it?

>>169309439
>pop has incredibly low happiness
>-25 from AI set to servitude
>would get +15% from having it set to outlawed
>sure
>next month comes about
>UTTERLY DEFEATED
hah

>>169314109
Anything with more than 10k people is considered a place that counts as shore leave for purpose of morale

How do I war properly in Stellaris? Do the weapon types actually matter or are they all relatively balanced?

>>169314619
>paradox
>balance

>>169314663

I've never played a Paradox game before, my computer could never run one

>>169314619
Missiles suck because ai spams point defence. Kinetic are best right now.

>>169310762
Presumably all the cocking about with Blender.
Then Maya.
Then Photoshop.
Then Hypershade.

nope.effort

>>169314246
Do the robots show up as an ai empire in the intelligence bit, or was my survey ship just blown up by a bunch of assholes?

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*covers you in spores*

:3

>>169315284
All contacts are shown as AI empires.
Now whether they are robots or not can't be decided on just them blowing up your shit.

I suggest sending 3 frigates and a destroyer to investigate

>>169315581
I'm only just now making my first warship. My priorities right now are developing a colony i set up in another system and getting a troop transport so i can instigate some ribs in another system, and then set up a colony there as well.

>>169315987
>ribs
Ruins.

>>169315987
Nice, post design

Also don't overbuild too hard against the AI, best experience if you try what you can get away with

>>169315325
>tfw you will never be cummed on by a hot Blorg
Why even live

>>169312360
Of course.
That is not my screenshot.

>>169312817
"sapce station" in Aurora means only three things

Either military one with weapons
Or
Gas extractor in orbit of the gas giant ( civilian so deployment time dont have to be taken into account )
Or
Mining base in orbit of asteroid ( same as gas extractor )

Anything else is just too much fucking around.

>>169316367
Not at my computer right now, and won't be for a few hours. It's not the first warship I've ever made in Aurora, but I've been restarting so much that nowt the ones I've built have seen combat. It's probably pretty shit, honestly. The only weapons it has are 12cm railguns(4 or 5), i think the top speed is over 2k km/s, it's got a delta shield with a recharge rate v of 2(i think?) because i have some ungodly defence autist for as my best scientist. It's about 6k tons, has whatever the improved ceramic armor is called (i think) at thickness 3. No jump drive. I should probably build more construction ships until I can improve the jump capability of my ships in general, I guess. Can't remember how much fuel it has, but it's designed to operate for 18 months.

>tfw you build 3 jump freighters to bring infrastructure to a 2.00x planet 2 systems away and on the way back to earth they run out of fuel just past Jupiter's orbit

>>169316941
What about using it to get constant sensor presence in an empty system?

>>169317648
>restarting

but it's more fun if you fail at everything the first time

>>169317794
They would have been slow, painful failures. I was restarting because I keot learning about some new mechanic that would have been really useful to know at the start, like changing intended operation time.

ive never played civ like game before. I tried beyond earth demo because i like space and i liked it. Is it worth getting or does it get old fast?

>>169318605
Gets old fast, unfortunatly. It had potential to improve but they abandoned it.

>>169314619
Try actually reading what the weapons do. Current meta is kinetic weapons, because they have bonuses against shields and high damage. Lasers used to be meta because of their armor penetration and high accuracy, but both their accuracy and armor penetration have been nerfed so there's no point in using them, just wait for plasma weapons which at least have decently high armor penetration.

Missiles suck dick because they are easily countered by cheaply made point defense ships that the AI loves spamming. Only useful for fighting leviathans and other things that don't have PD. In a serious war you want kinetic artillery and plasma weapons. Kinetic artillery will demolish enemy shields before they even reach you, and plasma cannons will melt through their armor once the melee starts.

>>169318605
It is very enjoyable for at absolutely least 4 playthroughs. Probably 6 with BERT (I'm just counting Affinity options here). From that point enjoyment starts falling. You could probably get 8-16 playthroughs before it gets old no matter how much you enjoy it. The problem is that the different leaders don't feel that different. They all just get really plain and hardly noticeable bonuses unlike other civ games where leaders have bonuses that make big differences, like unique units that define your wars for an era or features like claiming more land when you settle a city. It makes most playthroughs feel like previous playthroughs. It's hard to weave a different story for yourself every game. The affinities are very different and enjoyable, but that's it.

>>169319050
>The problem is that the different leaders don't feel that different
This is why I never had fun with Civilizations.
Even with goofy factions like the Hyperdimension Neptunia one, it feels the same.

>>169317648
Looking good.

I recommend using a jump leader ship that carries the jump engine and sensors for the group

>>169318762
>>169319050
god damn it. seemed simple enough for newbie like me and was sci fi which i love.

>>169319362
Was thinking about that. Does the jump engine have to be big enough that it can could carry the combined tonnage of the ships as a single ship?

>>169319836
It should have been much better than it was.

>>169319836
One amazing thing that I loved about it is the trade route system. The number of routes scales with the size of your civilization and the values of routes alternates between food and hammers for domestic routes and between energy and science for international routes. It's so much better than BNW in that regard.

I'm glad Civ 6 copied BE a little by having the number of trade routes scale with the number of commercial hubs and harbors you have.

>>169319362
>>169319868
Also, is the fact that there's no missiles on It not a problem? From done of the stuff I was reading it seemed like missiles were really important.

>Barbarians may now pillage tiles to heal.

And I will now commit suicide

>>169319868
No it just has to be big enough to carry the biggest ship.
So a fleet of 4000 (jump ship), 5000 and 3000 x 3, the jump engine has to be specced for at least 5000 and 5 jumps
You can adjust the maximum group size with the tech.

Usually it works pretty well if you just have the jump engine and some sensors as both of those can be made pretty big.


>>169320303
Nah it's alright, all the weapons are viable they just have different playstyles. I personally love beam warships.

>>169320427
>>169319868
Fug I goofed, the jump ship has to also be the biggest ship in the group so the example wouldn't work but the jump ship should be also at least 5000, but again that shouldn't be a problem as the jump engine itself is pretty big and if you slap in some sensors as well it can easily be the biggest ship of the fleet

>>169320357
>barb camp spawns near my capital
>it's within 6 tiles of a horse resource
>my warrior is 15 tiles away across rough terrain
>Exit to desktop.

>>169291250
It is, in my opinion, one of the biggest issues with the game, right below the economy and diplomatic side of things. Internal politics is getting a fix, but ground combat is probably still way far away

Like, ground army bonuses are completely worthless, once you have control of space, bombardment will drastically reduce the effectiveness of any enemy ground troops to the point where even the weakest slave armies and walk in and kill anyone

>>169317790
just use sensor buoys; I like to put a size 1 on every jump point

>>169305812
t. string theorist

>>169320427
Cool, missiles seem complicated to use because they have to be designed and made in factories. Also cannons are aesthetic as fuck.

>>169320690
Cool. Guess I'll need done big sensors then. The size I've thermals my survey ships use couldn't pick up that enemy ship until It was right on top of my own.

Speaking of, if my thermal sensors detect something on a planet, and then that signiture disappears, what does that mean?

>>169317790
Deep space tracking stations.

>>169321198
>sensor buoys
What?

Has anyone made a static map for Stellaris in the same way other Paradox games use a map of the world for the time period? I feel like there'd be a lot of potential to at least generate a world with a large variation of more and less advanced empires here and there (More gradual rather than pre-FTL, FTL, and fallen empire versions), possibly make larger empires at start with some existing diplomacy, things like that. At least let us create a race separate from an empire and let there be multiple instances of them spread throughout the galaxy in the same way there's two human empires that share a race.

Every game just feel very much the same since everybody starts pretty much at the same point and time and just techs up from there. I'd like to see something like an advanced empire that rules a good chunk of the galaxy with advanced technology but never figured out something other races would assume is incredibly basic like missile systems or advanced energy generation.

>>169321516
Missiles without warheads or engines dropped in place.

These are better though
>>169321430


>>169321386
Well it could mean a lot of things but what ever it was isn't there anymore.
And yes size makes sensors more effective so it's one of those places where you can sink a lot of extra tonnage for the jump leader ship. You should also have at least 2 but preferably 3 different resolution sensors on a proper sensor ship like this.
Long range very rough
Medium range decent resolution are the mandatory ones
Missile sensor is also good to have

>tfw dawn of war 3 looks like fucking shit

oh no

oh god

>>169318605
what gets old fast is resetting trade routes every 3 turns

>>169306932
I already see robots as that.

>Man makes a robot.
>Pours his knowledge and personalities into it.
>Resultant robot thinks like a human, acts like a human, and for every conceivable purpose, is a human in a metal body.
>Biological humans die off completely over time.
>Only the robots remain.
>Robots go on to meet and greet the rest of the galaxy with the same customs their living counterparts would've and are pretty much functionally identical.

It's like everyone fears AI will take over and start murdering all of us, but that's simply because we see the AI as not-us. AI must be viewed in the sense of a parent seeing their child; one day, we'll fade away, and that child will inherit our legacy.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGQbKK6bWoA

So much for the free for all deathmatch.

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>>169322003

>>169321768
>Well it could mean a lot of things but what ever it was isn't there anymore
I thought they disappeared while many ship was looking, but it occurs to me that they were so small that my ship may have just moved out of range when it went to survey another moon.

>>169321430
>>169321768
Don't those need to be on a colony to work? I'm talking about a system with no bodies in it.

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>>169321853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvZiv5V4GeI

>>169322003
I honestly don't care if AI takes over completely. So long as they can do everything we can do (including creating a global civilization from a savanna using little more than sticks like humans can) then it's all good. I just want "terragen" life to spread as far as it can go. I don't care if it is humans, robots, or uplifted dolphins.

>>169321853
>implying dawn of war was ever good

>>169322520
psyker voice is overrated

also psykers are shit units

t. ogryn squad with priest

@169322623
people like you don't deserve (you)s

>>169322468
You can put them on asteroids and shit like that as well. If the system has nothing in it just set them out one system closer to your territory instead.

>>169322623
>soulstorm wasn't good

>>169322118
>Scourge arrives.
>Leaves that one little tiny red empire completely alone in its three system glory.

>>169322723
I'll have to recheck my map. I guess I could just try to occupy the systems beyond the empty one.

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>>169322697

Dawn of war had great voice acting !

>>169322697
getting an @ is more satisfying

keep your (you)'s, I have no need for them any longer

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>don't feel like playing Stellaris until the new update

you're not even trying anymore but just in case

>>169323620
story of my life, but I feel that way with Dwarf Fortress

I don't play that game much.

@169323553
You trying to use reverse psychology to get those sweet (You)s you son of a bitch?

Anyone else beat the new scenario yet?

>>169323620
>they still won't even give us a release date

>>169322697

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_3ZTp4eG4

>>169322931
You can also always station a fleet to the entry jump point or add a defense station on it

>You will never be a Space Marine

it hurts lads

>>169323871

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgs29veFrdE

The most badass son of a bitch of the entire DoW series.

>>169323982

They are actually genetically engineered soldiers. With two hearths, more musculature and redundant systems.

I hate geno spawns and all sorts of eugenics/bio wepons! I refuse to make genetic evolutions everytime I play stellaris. It feels even dirtier than transhumanism through syntetic augmentations (in which Im in favor).

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>>169324047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67JpMyrOVE
Voice acting is either god tier or so shit that good. Soundtrack is glorious in both games. Is Doyle W. Donehoo back for Dawn of War III? He captured atmosphere perfectly in DoW II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBa5tf4BZ10
but Jeremy was good in first one too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA0jY2b_QpI

>>169324969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjBEQ0atuo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG42F-5AVOE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8qp992Dssk

>>169323982
>>169324681
Oh look, it's another boring HFY circle jerk. Fuck off back to /tg/ and read up on some fucking Heinlein, plebians.

>>169324969

Dont know about acting, but leader wise, both Gorgutz and Gabriel are back. I think they are the only characters that survived from previous titles, except those who won canon (thule won the black crusade but got pwned after and soulstorm was won by the imperial guard). Angelos wins in DoW2.

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>>169322118
>Timelapse
>40 minutes

>>169324681
>They are actually genetically engineered soldiers. With two hearths, more musculature and redundant systems.
So basically Time Lords?

>>169325579
>who
out

>>169325378
nah

>>169325579

Gene warrior army from stellaris.

>>169325431
Macha is literally in your face.
As in, featured prominently.
And how in the fuck did you even miss all the memes you heretic

>>169326060

Who gives a fuck about the elves?

>>169325790
>doesn't notice the "two hearths"
>notice the who

>>169325843
So Time Lords.

>>169322118
>they never stop their petty wars even as the scourge devours the galaxy

Are stellaris xenophobes hateful towards synthetics?

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Civ6 Workshop mods kinda suck ass atm t b h

>>169327335
why would you hate an appliance?

>>169327567
>its Adam and Eve not Wall.E and Ev.A

>>169327772
>OK.

>>169322118
That... actually sounds like a nice idea, for once. Adding the 10 to 20 civs, make them mandatory deployment, and... have an easy game, I guess. Without federations, even the highest AI would be easy to beat after the start - or so I'd wager.

>>169327772
I don't think you know what xenophobe means.

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>>169323620
>no release date yet

>>169331684
Someone needs to fucking throw a brick through one of Paradox HQ's windows demanding a release date

Those Swedish chucks need to have the pressure put on em

>>169331915
I'm sure the muslims have thrown multiple bricks already

and started fires

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>>169323798
>>169331684
>realistically it won't even come out until April
I just can't anymore..

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>>169324047

>Be a wee lad playing DoW for the first time
>Click on a Space Marine squad

Mfw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WEFlQva30

>>169319362
In case you're still hanging around, here's the stats:
Deimos class Destroyer 6 000 tons 174 Crew 695 BP TCS 120 TH 240 EM 60
2000 km/s Armour 2-29 Shields 2-300 Sensors 6/6/0/0 Damage Control Rating 2 PPV 30
Maint Life 2.06 Years MSP 145 AFR 144% IFR 2% 1YR 45 5YR 681 Max Repair 60 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 20 months Spare Berths 0

de Ver-Baudin Dynamics 120 EP Ion Drive (2) Power 120 Fuel Use 54% Signature 120 Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres Range 55.6 billion km (321 days at full power)
Delta R300/360 Shields (1) Total Fuel Cost 15 Litres per hour (360 per day)

CIWS-80 (2x4) Range 1000 km TS: 8000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
12cm Railgun V2/C2 (6x4) Range 40 000km TS: 3000 km/s Power 6-2 RM 2 ROF 15 2 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S00.5 24-3000 H70 (1) Max Range: 48 000 km TS: 3000 km/s 79 58 38 17 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S01 48-3000 H70 (1) Max Range: 96 000 km TS: 3000 km/s 90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1.1 (3) Total Power Output 44.55 Armour 0 Exp 10%

Active Search Sensor MR7-R60 (1) GPS 960 Range 7.4m km Resolution 60
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1) Sensitivity 6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 6m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

I hate those Civ 6 Roman horns.

>>169335754
Looks pretty nice, I would consider dumping the sensors to the dedicated sensor ship though, could bring up the speed and lower the size a bit that way, though it might make you bit vulnerable if the sensor ship gets blown up.

>>169335754
>>169336670
Also you seem to have a redundant fire control there

Is the patch out yet? Is there a list of balance/mechanic changes? Is australia meme tier or mvemba tier?

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>Friday night
>Stellarisfags are all gone

Fucking normie scum I swear.

>>169336670
I figure keeping them on in case I lose the sensor ship is probably a good idea, honestly.
>>169337156
Don't I need the second one for the CIWS?

>>169338027
Nah, we got a MP set up for tonight actually.

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I was expecting pro-syria/pro-russian bias from this game, but man it jams that shit in like every other sentence.

Still a good game

>>169338220
What game?

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>>169338340
Syrian warfare

>>169338220
is it actually any good as an rts?

>>169338220
I forgot that this came out
did they ever find those arabic voice actors?

>>169338043
CIWS works independently so you don't need fire control for it.

And yes it's alright to keep the sensors if you feel like it's worth it.

y thred so ded

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>>169338403
Its ok, the AI gets retarded at times with the pathfinding, on some heavily forested maps they'll have LoS problems, but aslong as you use the pause button (space) to monitor the battlefield you can avoid most of the AIs brainfarts.
The maps are rather large which is nice with how long the engagement ranges are with most the weapons.
As with all russian games there are some crashes, sometimes the game crashes on starting the mission, alt+tab too many times in a row and the mouse will lockout.
Its a very Men of War type of a game, but with less micromanagement.
you'll still have to rearm and refuel but thats mostly just driving a fuel/ammo truck next to your men. and just like in MoW you can capture enemy equipment, but only specialized crews can man certain vehicles (need tankcrew for tanks and pilots for helicopters)

For a 18€ game i'd say its worth it, the difficulty spikes up like crazy at mission 3 onwards.

>>169338432
there is arabic voices for units but dialog is in english (with a hilarious british accent)

>>169338220

Does /sg/ on /pol/ know about this?

>>169339960
Dont know, /sg/ on /k/ was talking about it briefly yesterday.

>>169338401
kek

>>169338725
Nice, that frees up some space.

>>169339539
busy playing Attila Total War MP and shitposting on /int/

>>169321853
dow 3 looks p fucking good
I fucking hate people that bitch about graphics over gameplay, looks over actual substance is why civ is popular, but shit
its nice to get an actual fucking rts instead of boring rtt games over and over again

>>169340264
Ye CIWS is great exactly because of that. It does have it's own drawbacks to other versions of PD mainly because it can only fire once per incoming missile salvo, it only protects the ship it's installed in and can't be used to actually hit the enemy ships

>>169340315

>I fucking hate people that bitch about graphics over gameplay

Sure, the DotA-tier graphics are annoying (I know they were trying to be authentic and make the /aesthetic/ feel like tabletop, but it looks poorly executed), but the real misgivings I have come from the apparently Statecraft 2-tier gameplay.

>No tacticool positioning of squads in directional cover
>Weapons don't look like they pack a punch
>reversion to hundreds of ded Marines per battle

I could just be projecting though, DoW2 is my favorite RTS outside of Homeworld and Men of War.

The new unit rosters look breddy gud though.

>tfw Deff Dreds and Killa Kans at the same time

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Please release it paradox, I'm so tired and hungry.

>>169340775
>Weapons don't look like they pack a punch

I really hate how they turned the Lascannons into continuous Void Ray-esque beams, that's not how they're supposed to work.

>>169340775
>starcraft 2 gameplay
you mean dow 1 gameplay. If it was sc2, every unit would have some boring ability, you'd have workers gathering resources, no squads, and nothing but base harassment. I do agree about weapons though, dow 3 has its problems, and its biggest are the animations being shit, and things like lascannons looking like garbage. well, multiplayer beta is soon, just signed up for it via email

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>>169341037

Didn't notice that.

>add autistic depths of lore like multiple assault dreadnaught types, niche Eldar aspects, and Imperial Knight auxiliaries

>fuck up lascannons when they were perfect before

>>169341278
to be fair, they are kinda like the dow 1 lascannons, which did fire very fast, basically the opposite of dow 2 lascannons. Not a fan of how they turn into constant beams after a few seconds, though.

>>169341213

I'm gonna sign up too. I want it to be good, but I just wanted CoH 1 in spess with additional 40k mechanics.

Though going by the DoW2 betas QA reception by the Devs, they might ackshually fix some shit. A shame it didn't get popular till Retribution and the Last Stand standalone.

>>169341452
The DoW1 Lascannons did seem to have a lower cooldown, but I think they still shot single laser bursts instead of continuous beams.

>>169341452

The constant beam rustles me bushels, but I'm all for improving the firerate. Especially if they're bringing back heavy weapon firing arcs.

>Inna DoW2
>Las-cannon ready to ambush and fuck up a tank
>Fire-rate is so slow that you can get 2 shots off at best, which isn't enough to kill even a Chimera

>>169341546
they did. basically the dow 3 lascannons are like that for a few seconds, before turning into a beam (they arent a beam from the start anymore) but maybe they changed it again, since they haven't shown lascannons in any recent gameplay footage. (maybe they'll make them sound more like cannons instead of wimpy shit)

>>169341326
What gaym?

>>169341857
Syrian warfare, theres backstory in the form of social media posts between missions,

>>169327348
The workshop is a cancer on modding in general.

>>169338027
I'm here but waiting for Utopia.

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Lotta wheat.
>tfw no wheat pantheon in Civ 6

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>>169342585
You gotta' Smoke Wheat Everyday.

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>rings can be used as annular wings
>those rings can be alcubierre warp rings
>high efficiency engine like an air breathing rocket or nuclear rocket
>single stage warp spaceplane

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How do you deal with Overwhelming enemies who won't accept a peace deal that doesn't involve you giving up 2 out of 3 of your planets including your capital world?

I think I'm fucked. My whole fleet died not long before due to engaging an enemy when I'm sure I set them to evasive.

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>be relaxing in my empire just researching and chill
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and my galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>169344116
>not liberating them and getting a free vassal

>>169344116
I really hate this meme

>>169344019
>2234
>26 nav cap
>25 fleet power per capacity
the fuck are you doing

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>>169344116
>>169344327
Never gets old.

>>169344116
>>be relaxing in my general just posting and chill
>>suddenly some faggot starts posting shit memes at me
>>defend myself and my board by meming on him
>>somehow I'M the bad guy

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>>169344116
ebin samply ebin upboated

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>>169344019

Step 1. Don't be a scrub that forgets his fucking fleet stance

Step 2. Always have a hefty reserve of minerals early game and multiple spaceports so you can potentially recover from being s scrub

Step 3. Hope that the ai spreads out its fleet/isolates its transports so you can wreck their invasion forces and get some warscore for not losing planet wargoals

Step 4. If you fucked up all those steps beyond repair, hope that the invaders bullied you enough to get threat on other empires and get defensive pacts with some neighboring lads which will help you retake your planets.

>>169344378
How do I get it higher? I've been trying. Building space stations in orbit of my 3 of my planets, Building up those planets. Not sure what else except technology which is basically random it seems. I've only had 1 naval power increase tech so far.

>>169344720
I set it to evasive. I remember doing that then telling them to go to the system. The only thing I can think of is maybe I had the wrong ship selected but I was sure it was the fleet.

It was against what seemed like a Leviathan or something, it was a massive creature coming out of a portal, if that makes a difference. Maybe they auto pull fleets into combat or something.

>>169345047

The combat system is currently janky as shit. What probably happened is that your fleet somehow meandered across the magical invisible line that auto-triggers combat and ruins all attempts at maneuver.

Blame Wiz.

>>169344737
Population and space stations (also you do know you can build above the limit, right?), but your biggest problem is that judging from that fleet power you have t1 weapons. If you have 126 fleet power with 5 corvettes, you'd only have 650 with the navy at cap.

>>169345240
>>169345047
>not emergency jumping instead of letting your whole fleet get destroyed

Why are fighters so difficult to research when they're so shit?

any good F2P strategy game?

>>169345552
They literally went in seconds.

>>169345402
I'm building them as quick as I can, I'll have to go above the limit probably and yes only t1. T2 weapon techs haven't appeared for me yet.

>>169345552
>Implying evasive fleet stance can save a small fleet if it runs into the dimensional horror

>>169345673
So you wouldn't research them

>>169345939
Well there's always shit luck, but considering that you only have 12 physics research and 19 engi with 3 planets you're not exactly flying through the technologies either.

>>169345689
chess

AOW 3 is shit

>make post
>come back to see if I got (You)s
>my post is gone
what happened?

>>169348026
no gay posts allowed

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I'm not falling for your clever ruse to get (You)s, poster above the post above mine.

@169348018
You do not even deserve a (you)

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>>169348193

>Ketracel
>white

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@169348193

Replace the meme arrows with @ to deprive somebody of (You)s

Anyone else just go back to Civ 5 after trying Civ 6 for a while?

There are so many issues with it, even simple bugs like certain pantheons not giving their bonus like they say they do.

>>169348679
I uninstalled all my civ games after trying out civ 6.

without event shit, whats the most happiness you can get, is adapative worth it to exloit it?

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>>169348193
That is bitter. The gods and fates are cruel. I served you faithfully once, Lord Nerevar, and you repaid me with death. I hope this time it is you who pays for your faithlessness.

>>169348679
I cant stand civ 5 after playing civ 6, even though I dont even care for civ 6

>>169346556
fucking atrifical difficulty bullshit, and besides, if you win against a computer, it just took pity on you and let you win.

>>169348193
>>169348442
>>169348807

Has anyone played that Star Trek mod?

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daily reminder that sisko is a domestic terrorist and belongs in federation prison for the rest of his life

>restart 3 games because AI keeps forward settling me
>increase map size so I have more lebensraum
>AI still forward settles me
I'm feeling really bullied right now, /civ4xg/.

>>169348764
100%. 50% base, 20% from artisan troupe, 5% from communal, 10% from propaganda broadcasts, 2% to 10% from governor, 10% from leader (although this is pretty rare), and finally there are various buildings and ethics that increase happiness.

>>169349732
they always spawn near you

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>>169349732

>AI gets offended if you ask them not to settle near you
>AI goes fucking berserk if you settle near them

>>169349783
doesnt festivals from artisans only give 15? and propaganda is planetary based with limited duration so it sint realy worht empirewide to have more adaptive guys

>get champion gov'nor
>gets elected leader wehn i have no inlfuence, and use almost all of the monthly gain to supress fucks

Bullshit.

>>169350385
Yeah but spice gives 5% (which I just realized comes from trade enclaves). Anyway the point of adaptive isn't to get max happiness but to be able to colonize other climate types without gene tailoring.

Why is Stellaris such a manbun simulator?

>>169350771
fashion is different in the future

>>169350385
>having factions
Just check to see what makes them unhappy and then change your policies.

They really went out of their way to make Montezuma act like an esé.

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>>169351527

Is there any AI you find agreeable in civ 6?

>>169350954
they are unhappy becaouse i whooped their asses and the mind control didnt kick in yet, and the last thing i want is to alow this filth to migrate and infest my other planets

is it worth it tough? with maxed tech you still only get 60%, and genetailoring the niggas lets you give them an extra trait to a small pops which then spreads it aross the galaxy.
Also, i hope im not teh only one color coding my guys: giivng the cold adapted fucks natural physics (blue), wet guys get sociology and dry ends up with engineering.

>>169352179
Some of the pathfinding is OK.

>>169352179
It's nice knowing Sythia won't just swarm you with horses so long as you don't DOW the other AI. Also Elizabeth seems like a reliable friend late game if you are on her continent.

Will Australia be better than Poland?

>>169353727
I'm glad that they make Appeal actually relevant before the modern era.

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miltaristic city-state bonus doesnt just give you hammers while building combat units but also while building settlers

>when u meet two of them by turn 5

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>>169354168
>calling production "hammers"

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Any clever ideas for what to name the state sanctioned religion of Australia?

>>169355018
Shitposting.

>>169354504
shut up nerd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_l4ZOVJ-ts

>>169355080
Not clever enough, or at all really.

>>169355018
Ebola.

>>169355018
vegemite

>>169308935
>>169309130
Oh, mine said Neir: Automata butthole.

>>169355590
Maybe if you can make it sound more like a religion.

>>169355421
Well you're not gonna be calling it Banter, that much is apparent.

>>169355018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniting_Church_in_Australia

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>mfw local empire declares war on me when I've got both the mineral storage and gumption to build a grand armada

>>169355018
pick the snake not the cow senpai

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https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/votes/188-opbot-dv8-the-story-so-far

>>169359656
I picked the emu.

Should I get the updated 40K Warhammer mod or is the one in the sticky fine? I'm assuming they're more than simple changes in the version number.

Do bonuses like hull regen stack? Or is putting more than one hull regen item on a ship redundant?

>>169362648
Yes they stack

>>169299885

There's no point even if it did exist.

Has ever Civilization I-V had Mongolia?

Did the Stellaris MP session happen laddos? How was the connection? I want in next time

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>>169365035

>Mongolians
>Civilization

>>169365050
It's going fine. We were continuing our session from last time, and likely will continue playing it til it reaches its end or we get bored of it. No real telling how long it'll take, but if we get a lot of people wanting to play we might start a new session. I think we are for sure starting a new session when Utopia drops.

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>>169365035
Since the first game, lil nigga.

>>169365035
since first game, but their status is usually expac/DLC

How do you win outback tycoon? I just played through it as Victoria and had like twice the score of everyone else but it gave me a loss screen and I didn't get any cheevos.

>>169355018
Blorg

Ok, Paracucks.
I don't want to hear your fucking game when I alt-tab. I alt-tabbed to do something else, half of which is probably watching a video.

>>169368927
So mute it then?