/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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Ohayou gozaimasu, /rlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's play our best today!

Two more days until /rlg/ is five years old!

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wtf why the Barbarians can't even read the damn scrolls in poschengband????

>>169200658
barbarians can read just fine
berserkers are illiterate tabmasters though

>>169200763
I spawned as a berserker and can't switch it off

>>169201023
yeah
beserkers are permanently stupid and permanently berserk
they have like twice the HP and melee damage of any other class though

I'm almost getting good at DCSS

Damn, I'm too dumb

>>169201174
woah, nice

>>169201235
You will understand why (non-spectre) berserker is difficult to win, in time.
Enjoy your sense of power for time being.

>>169201235
Not really.

Are the wraiths in Demon all from other players or do some of them generate randomly or are they modified somehow or what? I'm ridiculously surprised running into them on the 5th floor and seeing people manage to have teams of almost entirely modified demons but the game seems to want to contact the server when generating them.

>>169201235
for when you just want to pile on maximum killy

>>169201424
They are either local ghosts or taken from the server.
The modified demons could just be recruited from random spawns.

Time to bash my face against these merge conflicts, ha ha ha.

Oh zoinks, that is quite bit of new monsters.

>>169202954
just merge from pseudo instead :^)

>Wraith with soul armor in Anomaly has a fire weakness

Every time. But seriously fuck Anomaly.

>>169201418
Yeah, I bet it, I tried playing as a magician but I got killed before 10lvl in stronghold two times

>>169203087
I did.

It's done now. Gonna push it in a moment and also update the build-repo.
Really cool-looking monsters, though.

>>169189792

Is that a yeek wearing the hat of indra for MAXIMUM IMMUNITY ?

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>>169203335
And done. As fun as maintaining PCBR is, I don't have such focus on it anymore.
I probably fucked up lot of things in the merge, so if there are issues, please do notify me.

>>169203335
Nah, just a thing I drew for my setting-stuff.

>>169203917
god that thing's cool

>>169203917
>setting-stuff.
/tg/ stuff?
I require further information.

>>169203917
>lizards have short stubby legs so they'll have to waddle around like midgets everywhere they go

never considered this until now

>>169200404
is this true

>>169203218
kek

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>read the tutorials
>read the pastas
>years trying
How do you get good at this

>>169212736
masturbate before playing
make sure you're in your refractory period

>>169212736
which
game

Where do I input those weird commands from Crawl's knowledge bot that seem to link to replays?

>>169212736
play mumo for years

>>169214036
...in the IRC channel, the same place the knowledge bots live?

Some days RNGesus smiles upon you. Other days Lootcifer takes you from behind.

>>169217445
uh
and how does that work?
i only knew about the bot from the site

>>169217671
connect to the ##crawl channel on freenode
type that command into the irc channel
then a bot that is listening to the irc channel will do a thing

>>169200404
>>169211091
>is this true

The first roguelike general was made on Feb 25th, 2012, shortly after /vg/ was created.

So yes, /rlg/ will be five years old in two days.

>>169219467
Back when people thought that reaching lair was the best shit ever

>>169217671
There is a tutorial for irc on the crawl website
Mozilla has an even better one
Good luck

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>huh, need some springs
>oh, I know; I have fabrication 10, I'll make some myself
>just some scrap metal (which is basically unlimited) and some welder charges (which is literally unlimited thanks to an onboard welding rig+solar panels), that's neat
>wait, that's 3 hours per spring
And then I went to a nearby town, ripped 4 seats out of a useless car over two hours, (would have been one but it takes 15 minutes to cut a seatbelt loose apparently) dissembled them all in about half an hour, and got 8 springs. Why do these recipes even exist if they so obviously don't want you to use them?

>>169219553
The first few threads were mainly about Nethack.

>>169219467
but there were rouge like (aka dcss) threads in /tg/ before that

>>169219553
It still is. Once you've hit lair and aren't a baddie you've won

>>169219643
An Ancient and Foul Curse

Will Caves of Qud ever be finished or is it abandonware at this point?

>>169219789
>aren't a baddie

How do I stop all the farm animals from swarming me so I can git gud?

>>169219964
>abandonware
it's getting updates every friday
http://steamcommunity.com/games/333640/announcements/detail/254854514737142980

>>169220165
Oh, I didn't realize the Steam version was different from the one on his site. Hadn't seen that get updated in a while

>>169220003
Nigga just walk away
Frogs can be bad but that's why we invented stairs and black mamba at the wrong time will fuck your day up
Basically just don't flee into unexplored areas and be careful about your noise when you're fighting tough shit

>>169217445
And also in the webtiles chat if you have subscribed to the relay bot.

>>169220003
walk away
towards a chokepoint or a <

>>169220257
yeah the free version isn't just "qud but without tiles", it's an old non-updated version that happens to be from before tiles were added in

>>169217847
>>169219592
thanks

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Had to even the odds against orfax a little.

I didn't need exp anyway.

>>169219964
>>169220165
>>169220257
It's basically nothing. I played what was the latest version a few months back and the only thing that was different from the free version was that espers could get either more powers or less, I don't remember which

well there were also some QoL changes, that blue tint, and things like the True Man -> True Kin, the regard system, etc. but all in all there wasn't a noticeable difference, at least from Joppa to Golgotha

>>169220618
Why did you need to even the odds at level 31?
Why did you use a Great Wyrm of Law to do it?
Where did you even get a Great Wyrm of Law at level 31?

>>169221161
>Where did you even get a Great Wyrm of Law at level 31?
I'm a dragon warlock, so I go hide in the corner of a high level dungeon and use my summon dragon power until something good appears.

>>169220618
YEEK YEEK YEEK

>>169221376
this is the true power of summon spells
you just go somewhere super OOD for your character's level and spam summons until you get a monster that's even OOD for the level you're on

>>169221376
Oh, yeah, summoners can do things like that. Qulythulgs can go straight from the Warg quest to the undead quest justly expecting to walk out 20 levels higher and alive.

>>169200658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE

Anyone wanna do co-op in Qud?

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>>169222994

Anyone wanna ERP in DCSS?
I'm the OpTm in Pan, if the walls are orange you should be close to me.

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>>169223995
ok

Anyone want to 2v2 in demon? No healers allowed.

http://txti.es/49gu7

Decipher this

Help I'm being shitposted

You may only choose one waifu: Tiamat or Bai Suzhen?

Remember /rlg/, if you're in a near-death situation, get up, take a deep breath, and do 10 body-weight squats.

Even if you splat, you'll eventually end up with a highly sculpted glutes.

fuck you ausfag

I'm here for the Australian Zelda ARG

I'm sad.

PALADINS GENERAL GO GO GO

>>169224615
Why

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>>169225645
I can't believe this is what my life has come to but I'm not surprised at the same time

>>169219553
It still is. I love splatting MuMos in lair. It's so satisfying.

>>169225496
Duvessa?

>>169219643
is this a new flavor of badcrop?

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>>169222869
Sometimes I go to /rlg/ and sing songs about /rlg/ to /rlg/

>>169226438
die fag

arg where

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>>169226660
>choose only non-furry option

No, anon.
*You* die.

And this cutie is my waifu

>>169226816
>>169225645
>>169225616
>>169224615
I don't know or care what's going on in here, but it's not roguelikes so don't do it.

>>169226569
I believe in you, Pharaoh
>>169226660
the plural form of France

>>169225985
What roguelike is best suited to playing as Domon?

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>>169226932
>*You* die.

>>169224615
HOLY SHIT

>>169224615
>it's in ascii
come back when your arg has tiles instead im not autistic

why are you doing this

>>169224615
>not even using a cipher

>>169226932
>option
Also Duvessa has more "fur" than the actual options anyway.

>>169227187
Roxanne

Sonja


Vashnia?

>>169226535
No, it's an ancient flavor of stupid.

>>169228647
Ilsuiw is probably a better option than Vashnia.

Also
>not wanting to fug a fully unhinged Louise

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>>169228262

>>169229340
>not Psyche

>>169229857
I have to choose >.17 Ilsuiw too.
Her new green yoga pants do things to my boner.

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I'm partial to Thesilia myself.
>smart
>qt, in both body and personality
>musclegirl
>always happy to see you
>exotic
I have no idea what SotW dev was doing when he made her; she's pure fetish fuel.

>>169232971
dcss only anon
if we really can grab waifus from other roguelikes there's TONS of material
Like the little girl in teirinyo

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poast nondcss waifus

>>169233357
D

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>>169233427
>every single race can breed with dragons
truly they are the sluttiest waifus

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Every day until I fail.

Fun fact: I couldn't beat Adria for the second time in a row.

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>>169233780

IN OTHER NEWS, does anyone else dislike the newish system for learning recipes? You decide to build something, go out for the necessary materials, and then you forget entirely what parts you need. Also, it ends up with your carting around literally dozens of books.

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>>169234025
>you see here an ancient foul Aralgean curse

>>169234025
cdda? just dump all the books in a giant pile in the middle of your RV

>>169234025
>does anyone else dislike the newish system for learning recipes
I wouldn't know, I haven't played DDA in a year and I don't intend to.
>steering still lets the zombies quantum tunnel through your quarterpanels because lmao bendy |s
Do you understand how retarded it is

>>169234025
>You decide to build something, go out for the necessary materials, and then you forget entirely what parts you need.
Yes. I do this all the time. Was it 20 or 25 steel chunks? Or maybe it was scrap metal? Who knows.

Also like half the recipes are things you make once and don't need the recipe ever again, but you know, muh realism.

>>169234930
And the other half are things you wouldn't have ever thought of making.

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>>169234218
I do but that doesn't mean I like it. Also, it's not an RV, it's clean, renewable energy!
I've got to do something about all that weight; when I start my road trip this thing didn't even total to 2000 pounds

'course ~300 pounds of it is utilities, ~500 is cargo space, ~1200 is solar panels, and another thousand is extra batteries and engines, so there's not a lot that I can drop.

>>169235273
oh come on now you're just doing it on porpoise

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Ha, my first feat of bioengineering has begun!
...what can I do with this anyways? That's a lot of resources for one frame; most of it's just zombie parts, but vacutainers are expensive!
>>169235395
Sorry, I tried to delete the spoilers but I forgot one.

>>169237452
You can make a mad science car, that's about it.

You may well be the first person to ever craft one.

Have you ever gotten a sword of doom +99 early on /rlg/?

The only thing i can remember is when i was playing a human warrior in poschengband and got a random artefact sword that had slay on a fuckton of shit.

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>>169239916
Classic one

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>>169239916
it's most fun when playing android
>tfw you find an ego armor and leave thiefquest at CL20

>>169240329
did you died

>>169240619
He's a hound

>>169240329
hahahah oh I had forgotten that one

>>169239916
not a true endgame weapon early, no, but even so there are some early artifact weapons I've found low enough level for them to carry me well beyond my race/class' punching weight

>go to camelot 35
>The great wyrm of law breathes shards!
>leave camelot 35
why is this allowed
maybe this is the game telling me to just move onto the next challenge

>94 life rating
>!newlife
>89 life rating

yer not making this easy on me huh

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>>169247403
nice 37 levels out of depth spawn you got there
did you get breathed on from the stair? most characters that can get that deep into Camelot could get the Telmora arena's rod of monster detection

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reminder that gothmog is canonically female and captain of the cuties

So why did they remove the good wands from DCSS?
Something about not wanting replenishable healing/teleportation/hasting I imagine?

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>>169247814
I had a rod of detection but it was just outside the range and blasted me at max range while I was fighting something else
probably should've been paying more attention, but I'm not dead yet
also found this so I think it was worth it

>>169248173
Also rods

>>169248307
ah ah ah ah stayin' alive stayin' alive
ah ah ah ah stain aliiiiiiiiiiivvvveeeeee

>>169248016
>gothmog is canonically female
and doesn't look very glad about it on your pic

>>169249503
despite what tumblr may try to get you to believe, one CAN be unhappy for reasons 100% unrelated to being male or female.

for example, this morning my car broke down. doesn't mean I don't like having tits.

>>169248173
Because
>muh resources
>muh elegant tactical decisions
>muh magnificent design

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>>169249503
becuase she doesnt get to be with her husbando

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As of today, I have destroyed slightly more than one hundredth of the surface world of Qud.

>>169250658
I dare you to go kill a pyramid for me.

>>169250895
I may do that eventually on this character. It might be possible as I am abusing the wishing system and ctrl+X for mad EXP.

So wait, Draconians in PCB can take a class, then turn into Dragons... with a class?

Draconian Monk -> Steel Dragon Monk?

>>169251795
there are no steel draconians

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>Ccoa's Sanctum
This is probably the worst possible sanctum that my current party could face, but I should still be fine, right? And should I get rid of anybody to capture Ccoa?

I don't remember, does Ccoa have a chance to spawn any ridiculously out of depth demons like West and Actaeon's sanctums?

>>169251184
If you boost your strength up enough you might even be able to use its missile launcher.

>>169251795
some classes don't synergize with dragon, monks lose their special monky abilities and whatnot

>>169252270
>does Ccoa have a chance to spawn any ridiculously out of depth demons
Yeah, raiju, probably the best of those early sanctum overleveled guys.

Probably I'd dump the wisp for ccoa, I usually start with it and drop it after the first side branch.

>>169252270
Raiju can spawn there, and are very dangerous to be encountered early on. They only spawn alone, however, but if they come out of a corpse than they are a much greater there.

Kashas are good there for there are no light-resistant demons (only look out for asrai and modified demons), and the ghoul can help a lot with completing the Ccoa link (it has body weakness so the ghoul can easily paralyze it; keep in mind to let your ghoul be ready to pounce onto Ccoa at the beginning of the link too). Keep out gandayah for a lot of the time because its presence can lessen the impact of aeras attacks.

>>169252709
Aeras have to be the worst demons in the game. Not only do they have garbage skills, but they also have a very difficult link.

>>169252564
Dragon monks still hit to stun and retaliate and all that. Granted, it's probably not as good as your original form, but that's the case for pretty much all characters, I think.

>>169252689
Yeah, wisps are very strong early on but start to get flimsy as soon as the first sanctums. Unless if you're willing to give it juggernaut and some on-hit passives, you may as well get rid of it as it is pretty squishy up against nearly all magic attacks.

>>169252871
They are pretty easy to defeat with light and dark attacks, of course. Dazzling gaze is also very good for killing them in general, because they won't benefit from fade, leaving them vulnerable to many other attacks.

>>169252903
>Granted, it's probably not as good as your original form
how so, isn't dragon's melee the best?

>>169251184
Is that just debug abuse or is that actually possible without cheating?

>>169253602
I'm doing debug abuse. I think someone in this general a couple years ago may have pulled it off without cheating, though.

Are potions of experience worth buying in PCB?
How much EXP do they give you? Enough to level up once?

>>169253518
you are thinking of dcss

pcb dragon melee isn't the best unless you have multiple rings of power

the craft weaponmastery spell doesn't even work :(

>>169253996
they give an amount of xp that's based on the amount you need to reach the next level IIRC, but it caps at only 100k

>>169248307
>filename
Does Camelot spawn vaults? Because that sounds like a vault.

>>169254706
unarmed melee though

i don't get why draconian monk would hit harder without morphing into a full dragon, what penalties would apply or something

We cl40 in under 6 hours now, baby

and we won't splat like last time, will we?

WILL WE?

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>>169256786

Well fuck, playing spellwarp automaton, currently iron golem tier, and suddenly my 18/80 strength all got shuffled completely into charisma. I think it was from magic mushrooms casting weird spam on me. Is there any way to move it back?

>>169257489
magic mushrooms dont do anything permanent
it was probably nexus hounds or possibly something chaosy

and no you're permanently fugged

>>169257489
Your casket will be much cheaper with high charisma

>>169257581
O fug I did see some out of level nexus vortex, they were casting nexus element at me which I was not familiar with. So do I just find another and let it warp and twist me til I go back?

So basically nexus resist is crucial

>>169258194
you COULD find another nexus breather and let it have its way with you, which has a chance to get your stats back
don't count on it though

>>169258298
I'm a fucking turbocharismatic iron golem, I'm pretty much useless at this point so it couldn't hurt. That is a pretty god damn brutal element

>>169258385
yeah its fucked up
that stat-swap effect was already removed in vanilla angband ages ago

>>169252564
Damn, I was just about to ask if they did. I guess it makes sense that they wouldn't, since they give up their weapon slots. Pity, that would be absurd fun.

So. PCB. So far I've played...

Death-Sword, Ring: Grindy. Getting better at recognizing when to run away, so might be better at these. They need rebalancing I think, or maybe I just need to get used to grindy hell. Maybe it gets easier to grind for gear in later dungeons?

Jelly: Equipping 6 artifact armors is nice, and pet spam helps. Having 50% innate resists is niiice.

Droid Rune Knight: Nerfed, but still was pretty strong. Pasta says RK is strongest class in game? Snark?

Steel Dragon: Stupid good melee. Didn't try any of the other dragons other than a stint as one that could use death magic... didn't like it. I hear the crafting school of dragon magic is neat. Maybe Shadow Dragon, having passwall might be abusable?

TB Ninja: OP as fuck, had trouble getting used to only using daggers and crap for armor. Can definitely tell this came from the Japanese version - they have basically every innate utility spell you'd possibly ever need and then some.

TB Monk / Master: Not needing weapons was nice. Giving up magic and counter-attacks (Monk) for castable brands (Master)... not sure if worth it.

TB Time Lord: Time beam wasn't really doing it for me. I hear they get crazy later on?

Doppleganger (Lucky + Ninja mostly): Apparently you can get Demigod and Human special abilities of your choice if you switch into them? I couldn't quite get used to the form switching. I guess you can't regenerate unless you switch back to default (weak as fuck) form? Some other anon was trying to get Dopps to work for him but without luck but I donno what he was playing as.

Quylthulg: Hard to get used to being basically dead weight compared to one's summons. Was still fun having a army.

Anyone played Blue Mage? It seems like a more different Imitator. Or, is the Imitator imitating it?

>>169258486
bluemage is a not-shit imitator
you learn spells PERMANENTLY and get to keep them forever, so you can actually use magic as a primary offense

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neat

>>169258486
>Time Lord
this game is sexist, it's timelord regardless of your preferred gender

>>169258486
I think ninja makes for the one of the better draconian metamorphosis classes, if you really want to play one. You keep the sneak attacks, and the innate speed and abilities help to make up for having not-amazing slots.

And of course, the weapon and armor restrictions become irrelevant.

>>169261392
what about your stealth though, ninja is nothing without it

>>169261536
You still get the ninja special stealth, and the only impact on normal stealth is that you have less slots to wear bonuses in.

>>169261706
aren't dragons bad at stealth?

>>169256970
I'm glad that my waifu is a normal and trustworthy sprite and not something other than a sprite, especially not some weird thing

>>169261840
Have you ever seen a dragon that is trying to be sneaky?

>>169261840
Depends on your draconian subtype. Green, bronze and gold get +1 to stealth, shadow gets a bunch (but is otherwise rather bad, so).

I like bronze a lot.

>>169258194
nexus is pretty unimportant as far as resists goes, and shuffles are very rare even when it does hit you (it's much much more likely to teleport you around instead) but yeah when you can cheaply avoid it there's no reason to sit around taking nexus hits

>>169258486
elliptic (to be fair he's a lot faster than most of us) just did a deathsword and didn't feel it was too grindy. He did mention a few times how annoying it is to need to recognize and avoid disenchant meleers. Not getting to do the "hey I found the one sword I need to win the game with" upgrade moment is kindof disappointing in my experience though.

I thought chris fixed dragon-metamorphosis monks? At least he certainly made them not lose all of the monk melee.

fun monster races or classes I've tried or watched live that are not on your tried list: possessor, giant, balrog, blood knight, rogue, bard, mauler, chaos-warrior, archer (the least annoying shooting class since you get create ammo ability), grey mage (insane lategame, like seriously wow), magic eater, psion

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finally a better offense than magic missile
i was all the way to CL15

now i can upgrade from 6+2d6 single-target damage to a straight 35 (i think it's based on my HP) in a huge AOE
and for only 15x the mana cost

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hahahaha

HAHAHAHA

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>you will never double-turn the snek
;_;

>>169266785
play a timelord
they literally have "double turn some unfortunate shitter" as one of their spells

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>>169267431
>you will never go so fast that you get enough turns to kill the snek before it even gets to move
;_;

>>169267843
play a swordmaster with a 9d9 runesword, the wild weapon sustain, Ring of Destruction, One Ring, Kamikaze robe
that'll give you a 12d81 weapon
hopefully it got slay evil at some point too

>eat mutagenic chunks to get Int+4
>quaff benemut to get evolve
>you feel stupid.
>you evolve.
>10XL later, you feel stupid.

what the fuck benemut is bs chunks always treat me right

Coming back to Elona+, grabbing 1.65, there aren't any mods/translations i need to download with it, right?

I don't remember having to but that was forever ago.

>>169270001
Looking over the wiki it appears that annabanana hasn't updated Elona Custom past 1.62, so no, nothing but the Elona+ folder

also visit the /jp/ elona thread just in case, they'll know more

>>169270465
Thanks

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my blue-mage thought these guys in the sewer quest would be a great source of new spells

but in the time that the pair of them took to drain me from xl21 to xl9 with time and chaos, all I learned was breathe disenchant

apparently the chance to learn a spell is based on the relative level of the spell vs the player

>>169271254
Does the breath scale with your level/spell stat? It's a keeper if so, since so little resists it.

>>169224615
What the fuck is this

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>>169271490
it's a flat proportion of current hp
base elements are 1/3rd, high elements are 1/6th

looking at the code, some high elements like nexus/time/mana/storm are actually 1/3rd of current hp as well, but they have caps on their maximum damage ranging from 150-300

>>169268135
what's the wild weapon sustain?

>>169265080
and it uses your mana for breathing, doesn't it?

>>169272848
oh, i see it does

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Why is my title so low? I've done all the conducts that I can think of and Maniac mode is also turned on

Where do i find the proper tags to have the custom tiles of monsters in my rc?

>>169277957
I usually just search for their names in the github.

>>169274816
they nerfed needles two versions ago, anon. They're not as OP as they used to be, now you gotta train throwing for them to be as efficient as they used to be at skill 0.

>>169268285
ILU Gothmog

roguelikes and likes because the genre is dead for Android
give me something good other than pixel dungeon and forks, nethack and forks, cardinal quest, caves, pathos and darkest survival

>>169281903
Didn't expect the nerf to be *this* huge. Used ~30 of them at Sigmund, no effect.

>>169283567
yep. Nerfed all across the board.

Why is shoals so much more difficult than vaults

>>169283567
They are pretty much useless until 8 throwing where they reach their old strength
Curare still work fine though

Plain large shield or a shield with an ego in crawl?

>>169287687

no shield because shields are a waste of exp

Qazlal any good for a fighter? He looks kinnda fun but Okas artifacts have saved me countless times.

>>169289207
Yeah, it's good, but you have to train invocations to make use of the big abilities. Disaster Area and Upheaval are very welcome additions, since latter can be used to pick off unwelcome monsters.

Oka is fickle, since it throws horrible trash at you. Abilities are much nicer, plus you don't have to deal with noise. A safe choice.

>>169266536
holy shit that is a good black market
obviously the absurd +15 ros most of all

>>169289207
FoFi/Gl^Qazlel

> You climb downwards.
> You hear a distant snort. Hark! There is an entrance to a minotaur's labyrinth on this level. Find the entrance quickly before the gate is sealed!
> You feel an oppressive heat about you. There is an entrance to a volcano on this level. Hurry and find it before the entrance collapses!
Should I manage to find both in time, which has better loot for a mibe?

>>169292248
lab has higher chance for artefact stuff
volcano is more difficult but higher chance to have atleast something useable

>>169292248
Go in whichever is closest. the portal countdown doesn't tick when you're inside another portal. It'd be criminal if it was.

>>169292519
>>169292649
Welp I've found and entered volcano first, found some useless shit and rF cloak, and as soon as I exited it lab immeiately got closed. Either a coincidence or countdown did actually tick.

>>169293036
>Either a coincidence or countdown did actually tick.
yeah I lied because I'm an asshole today
sould've gone lab

>>169293036
rf cloak is enough to win you the game

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Apparently the servers can't keep up with my tabbing with reflection shield in the middle of like two dozen orc archers.

>>169293740
which game

>>169293928
Doesn't matter, I'm dead now. Couldn't reflect all those magic poison arrows in Snake.

I'm gonna play a hex mage
and call him words that kill

>>169283567

Why are you using a dumb no brainer character that lasts for way too many turns against Sigmund?

>>169293036
That's bullshit, it does tick.

Why can't I stop playing IVAN?
It's not even fun. lmao mines, inventory damage, remembering to pray, angels solving everything for you if you bother to grind for them, dorf exploders, grind, more inventory damage, learning what bumps difficulty and what doesn't

Despite all the gimmicks, core gameplay is surprisingly bland.

Is it some skinner box bullshit due to infinite grindability?

>>169297375
Right? What a dumbass.

>>169294990
DEFi.

oh trog the page number is red

>>169294521
enjoy being useless until 5, having ULTIMATE POWAH at 5-20 while you farm p and o packs on the surface with stinking mist, and then becoming totally useless again afterwards
I think they're supposed to go into melee at some point, but they have wizardstats, wizardblows, and wizardweaponskills...

>>169297984
>not using detect material to find mines
>not memorizing the locations of all the mines since they aren't actually indicated on the map

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>>169304598
fortunately tablords excel at bumping

what does massacre do in pcb?

>>169304723
Hex mage, no tonberries should be a /rlg/ challenge

Mainly because I want to know what they play like at high levels and am a bad player who can't get them that far.

>>169305972
It's the same as whirlwind attack I believe, hits everything adjacent to you.

>it's a Crazy Yiuf sends you to the Abyss episode

>>169306313
oh, i see
ty

>>169306165
The resident pcb autist is still running a doppleganger imitator
when he'll win/die he'll choose a new combo

is it possible to play skillmaster and to cast magic like a gray mage, without books?

>>169306165
i think you need demigod just so you can take weapon versatility and use a real melee weapon

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neat

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can deathswords get polymorph-othered

>>169307204
I am NOT formally diagnosed

>>169310679
you play vanilla pcb and think that playing pcb-r is cheating anon
it's terminal

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>>169310679
i am

>>169311204
>MuMo, the anime

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>>169311398
no it isnt

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>>169311486
But fist

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>>169311627
but it is a different kind of fist

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>>169311834
>the many flavours of fist

>>169268285
Beautiful.

>>169311052
how does elliptic's pcb differ from pcb-r?

>>169312252
it passes from pseudo, grabs 20$ and gives you a blowjob in the meantime.

>3 {excellent}s from bandits, immediately followed by tiger shaped death
Maybe ninja isn't for me.

/rlg/ I have a riddle for you.
When is a 33% chance not a 33% chance?

>>169315324
When you play dcss?

>>169315420
Ring-a-ding-dong-dillo, anon.

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>>169315324

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Wrest a shining Silmaril

>>169233961
You'll have a better time fighting New-Adria with 1 Dark/Light immune demon and a healer out of her los than you will with 3 guilt/pariah-susceptible meatbags.

Kinda like fighting Madevra- surrounding her with physical attackers is useless, it's better to bait her into attacking a single Wisp or Python or something while your buddies throw elemental darts at her 1 square away

Of course I have no idea if you had that Civatateo when you fought her.

>>169315830
maybe next update

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>>169268135
>>169272697
>Globe of Invulnerability
>snek Dispels
>Paralyzed
>What a noble sacrifice

Unless wild blade was changed in the last few updates, it's useless against high level enemies and especially uniques.
I had an old screen of Wild Blade apparently, enjoy.

>>169310005
No.

>>169309868
There are eight of them and each of them has a different bonus
Yours is rN+, the weakest of the rings

>>169311052
I play pseudo, maybe you're thinking of a different anonymous person

but pcb-r is definitely easier if not outright cheating and if you win something with it there must be a disclaimer of some kind

>>169316305
you dont lose time when wild_invuln ends, it's a totally separate effect from normal invuln

although if you are invulnerable and you trigger wild_invuln your normal invuln will be dispelled when wild_invuln ands, and then you will get timefucked

>>169316502
neat

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>>169316075
You're letting all the Edain down.

>>169316871
yeah I don't really like sil
sorry isildur

>>169316953
it is said that only by wresting a shining silmaril from Morgoth's iron crown can you marry you're one true waifu

>>169316715
There's still the issue that you can't really ever be hasted beyond hitting things and hoping it triggers when using a wild weapon.

Do people use them for anything besides getting giant dice weapons with weaponmastery?

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>>169316715
>lose time
>timefucked
What the fuck?
I'm sure if invulnerability globe gets dispelled then you get paralyzed, not za warudo'd.
So wild_invuln doesn't have that drawback anymore?

>>169316579
>if you play a slightly different of this game AND WIN
>*wheeze*
>YOU NEED TO SAY YOU'RE USING THE SPECIAL SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VARIANT

That's kinda ridiculous anon. Unless you're talking about the challenges, in that case I'm partially with you.

>>169317176
invuln-dispel doesn't actually inflict the "paralysed" status, it just makes you lose one (1) turn worth of time

wildinvuln never had that drawback IIRC

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>>169317161
Don't do this to me anon.

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>>169317378
It seems I was taken on a ruise cruise back when I still played PCB fervently in version 4.0.0.
I bet it was fucking ponyposter always complaining about dispel.
Fuck him.

What happens if the serpent rockets you in melee and shatters a potion of invulnerability

>>169317614
invuln has no effect when shattered

>>169317614
It launches Dynahack and Sil giving you better options for roguelikes.

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>>169317568
Oh come on. I hate dispel with all my heart because losing wraith+demonlord form as an ARK is fucking shit, but I'd never spread misinformation.

>>169317754
Huh. Well that's good.

>>169317846
Does anyone play dyna nowadays?
I mean I was more or less the only guy playing it back then and now it's a dead fork.

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>February 24, 2017
>ponyposter still hasn't killed himself

Also you can check the archives from when 4.0.0 was at it's peak popularity here and see for yourself how you told me that Wild Blade invulnerability getting dispelled would leave my character paralyzed.

Thoughts on Gumballs and Dungeons? Might not be very popular as it's mobile but it's fairly roguelike (only missing permadeath) and is pretty much f2p without any pay to win mechanics.

I'm fairly addicted, worth a try for games to play outside the house.

>>169317378
One turn of speed +31 or speed +0?

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>>169318119
>and see for yourself how you told me that Wild Blade invulnerability getting dispelled would leave my character paralyzed.
Yeah, that's because I believed that, someone before told me.
You can check that too.
also
>the only guy that posts anime reaction images in the thread
>not having committed sudoku yet
every day you impress me even more.

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>>169318248
>only missing permadeath

>>169318303
At least I've never samefagged.

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>>169318403
>At least I've never samefagged.
Pssh.
Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

now kiss

>>169318296
one turn of speed +31 if you are speed +31
one turn of speed 0 if you are speed 0

it's the same as if you had pressed 5

>>169317465
Have you not heard the tale of Beren and Luthien, the actual story on which the game Sil is based?

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>>169318303
>animu imageboard
>dislikes animo reactionfaces
for what purpose
and in any case furrypornwithtumblrfilename is significantly more degenerate

>>169319387
Not really.
>>169319375
of course.

>>169319550
What do you mean "of course"
Of course I've heard of it
or
Of course I haven't

>>169319640
What do you think?

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>>169319387
>>169319375
>>169319640
Ther is no point whatsoever responding to ponyposter.

>>169319820
then why did you summon me in the first place, animeposter

>>169317846
Pity that they're boring as fuck and only "worth" it if you're an autist trying to gain /rlg/cred.

>>169319943
That's not true. Sil is fun.

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>>169319881
I haven't posted here for a long while and I'd hoped you'd gotten your life together or killed yourself.
Also animeposters are legion.

>>169319943
Sil is an exemplary roguelike.

>>169320024
It's a fucking chore
Last time I had this little fun playing a roguelike was when I started out nethack and spent most of the time learning controls.

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>>169320149
you should know I'm eternal, anon dearest.

Actually I left for a couple weeks and these amateurs kept splatting their own threads, it was embarassing to watch

>>169315776
this shit is hilarious

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>>169315830
>>169316871

>>169321873
I remember that little dude.

>>169319943
you're thinking of mumo and vampire convict of 15 conducts

>>169322302
or nightmare mode pcp

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>>169322470
>nightmare mode pcp

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Hey guys, I need some advice on playing a Deep Elf Conjurer. I an't seem to make it past the god damned Lair.

I ususally focus conjurations until level 5, learn battlesphere and start learning charms/conjurations. Once Battlesphere is at 15%, I turn on spellcasting,dodging,fighting,charms and focus conjurations.

The most tedious part of this is actually getting battlesphere castable. The first 5 levels of the dungeon are the hardest. I usually worship Vehumet and learn the first fire magic spell he gives me so I can start training fire magic. I turn off charms around 11. I made it to Lair 4 my last go, a Red Dragon decided to ruin my run that was going pretty smooth. All I had was Meme Dart, Searing Ray, Battlesphere and Mephetic Cloud. I was an idiot and thought meme dart and battlesphere could kill it, and paid the price.

FOOLISH SAMURAI WARRIOR

>>169322995
>Once Battlesphere is at 15%, I turn on spellcasting
what the fuck
are you training 0 spc before that
you know you need mana to cast spells right

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>>169320302
> splatting their own threads

Probably due to the lack of "Should I use this +5, +7 Long Sword of Venom I have no skill in or this +1, +1 Exec Axe of Electrocution that I have 27 skill in" DCSS questions.

>>169323249
Yeah, I know I need mana, but rushing battlesphere is crucial to me surviving past DL6. Conjurers dont have blink or mephetic cloud, so they need to kill shit as fast as possible.

>>169323269
>exec axe of elec
drop some brand weapon scrolls on it and see if it comes up with something that isn't resisted by all of the nasties

>>169323502
what you need to do is kill shit before it kills you

if you spend no xp in mana or defenses then your only option is "as fast as possible"

besides what happened to dazzlespray

>>169323249
like nigga just walk away

>>169323583
DESU i've never experimented with Dazzling Spray or Fulminating Prism or Mystic Blast. I usually just learn searing ray and battlesphere. They worth trying out?

What's the mutation cap in DCSS?

>>169323782
Prism is fun because it assblasts chaff and most other things for a while and spray is ok for early on

>>169323782
Dazzling spray is OP as fuck
Mystic Blast will carry your bitch nigga ass through Lair

>>169323782
the battlesphere rush meme was only really a good strat back when it was lvl4 and Prism was lvl5

you should use your other spells

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DICKS

>>169323849
>>169323887
>>169324148

Thanks amigos, i'll try that after my MiBe run.

Got a question though. What's the better brand on the executioners axe Vampiric or Antimagic?

Also, does the vampiric brand drain you hunger more quickly? If so, the gourmand amulet is the best in slot right?

>>169324429
Literally just Heroism and Finesse those hoes. None of them are dangerous at all, tbqh.

>>169324429
Didn't your mother teach you not to name the lord in vain?

>>169324701
even if it DID cause hunger gourmand wouldn't be bestinslot because food in crawl barely matters

you can keep both the vamp and antimagic. vamp is better for general tabbing but AM is of course amazing versus dangerous casters like demons liches or OOFs (and vamp doesnt work against those guys anyways)

>>169324429
ETERNALLY

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>>169324429

>>169324712
the stupid sword corrodes me on hit and for some reason it keeps doing it all the time so id rather not risk it

>>169324723
pardon friend

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>>169324429
yes indeed, I rather miss the old fellow too.

with PCB's passwall effect, how much is breath/storm damage reduced, and is rocket damage reduced also?

>>169324701
>What's the better brand on the executioners axe Vampiric or Antimagic?

Neither, since they're not offensive brands and, thus, don't use the capabilities of an Exec Axe.

They're both great brands, though. Vampiric will be great throughout a 3-rune run (assuming you don't do the Crypt), and Antimagic will be great to lower the danger of any magic users (most uniques, ancient liches, Orbs of Fire, etc.). If you have both, you should keep and enchant them both.

Vorpal or freezing would be the best brands overall for a triple sword. And obviously, holy wrath if you're doing Crypt and/or extended.

What would be the best race for a sword user? Plan to go Oka. I was thinking maybe a High Elf? Do I train shields or just swords,fighting,armor and dodging?

>>169325254
fsim says that speed on a triple sword does the best damage on a per-aut basis, excepting holy wrath vs. enemies that trigger holy wrath.

>>169325625
Yeah, but speed doesn't generate on triple swords (or anything that's not a Short Sword or ranged weapon). You can't use a brand weapon scroll, for instance, to get a speed brand weapon,

>>169325743
** doesn't generate, except for certain unrands

>>169325553
the best race for [melee thing] is always minotaur
crawl races are not balanced

>>169325247
aoe effects like breath/storm/ball/rocket will do full damage to the center (which is a line for breaths or a point for the others), half damage to things one space away, 1/3 to things 2 spaces away, 1/4 to 3 spaces away, etc

if you are inside a wall the monster can't center its spell on you (except disintegrate breath), so it will have to aim at a tile next to you and you will take half damage

>>169325805
it does generate for randarts too.
And it can spawn naturally. Unless something changed?

>>169326402
speed can only generate naturally on certain weapon types like lajatangs or shortblades
you will never see a non-artifact sword or axe or mace or polearm with speedbrand

>>169325743
really? Never knew

>>169325985
Is that in addition to wraithform's halved damage?

If so, no wonder it seems so strong.

Fun Fact: The in-game area 'Shoals' is actually a clever reference to the hebrew word 'Shoah', which is how most people feel while playing through it

seriously CRAWL DEVS WHY THE KRAKENS I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING BUT WHY THE GODDAMN KRAKENS

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>>169326524

So Randarts are cool then.

>>169325553
Formicid

>>169326776
WRONG

The in-game area 'Shoals' is actually a clever reference to the hebrew word 'Sheol', for it is an underworld on par with the Hells in difficulty

what if all weapon brands generated on armor

>>169324429
>free xp
>being a Fo as well
ANon..

>>169324701
Vampiric brand does not drain your hunger
it does eat a big chunk of satiation when you first equip it, so you need to either have gourmand and bump yourself up to full or you need to eat a ration and bump yourself up to full

>>169327193
no i took care of them it was good it's just that the sword was very eager to constantly corrode me so i was wary, plus only thing i played before was a tabtaur so everything seems super fragile and makes me play extra cautious

Are necromancers viable? Should I go vampire or Demonspawn? Fuck Deep Dwarf, I hate them.

Also, they're played as a hybrid, right? Is there a way to sick you minions on enemies?

>>169328225
everything is viable
everything not named mibe is suboptimal