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>Didn't respect the Sacred Oath buff:
>>169146207

>1.10 patch notes:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261608645322016043

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILER): https://my.mixtape.moe/skopje.mp4

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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I want to turn Crystal Kriemhild in to Blissful Creamfilled!
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>>169196990
Souls couples are cute.
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Reminder for everyone to have a good day.
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the piano note at the start of SoC's 2nd phase still hits me hard for some reason
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>>169197083
Was Pontiff gay?
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito.
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POST WEAPONFU
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>>169197194
>>>/OUT/
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>>169197235
Yes
For me
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How do I plan ahead for the new DLC?
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>>169197256
DOMO
HORROWSRAYER DESU
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How do we fix dark souls 3?
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>>169197284
Cease bullying immediately.
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>>169197654
Just make the same game but everything works
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You know what invasions in DaS3 need? A weapon that reduces max HP on hit by the same amount as current HP. That would be a good thing to have.
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>>169197675
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>>169197256
Posting purest weaponfu again.
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>>169197256
Do not bully the bastard sword
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>>169197782
post the source
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>>169197930
you are such a baka you gaijin
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>>169198029
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/Dahs/479809/DS3---Grand-Archives
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>>169197458

Expect a lot of dark damage, toxic, and curse swamps.
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>>169198198
thank you
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>>169197458
I want that anon to make another cute post for the second DLC
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>>169197256
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Is there a waifu more better than Yuria?
>Regal
>Respectful.
>Looks out for any threats towards your rule, and praises swift judgement.
>Gets you a consort, and says she's also thine, so threesomes are on the table
>Sells the best weapon to fist the second best waifu in the game.
>If you accept her help against the final boss, she leaves her clothes where she stood before implying she's waiting for you to go tap that.
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>>169198484
Cuckqueen
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>>169197458
Planning ahead is fucking retarded.

Just enjoy the ride as your character would, plonked right into the thick of things without any real understanding of anything.
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>>169198520
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damn I miss bloodborne pvp. at least it punishes healing
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why is the DaS3 dragon form so goddamned awful looking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvYApd_X3aU

even the chickens of Dark Souls 1 were better
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>>169198520
We've arrived at a point where people don't even know what cuckold even means, and just throw it around.
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>>169198737
Dragon forms have been such a half-assed idea in every game they appeared in. I wish they would just drop the idea if it's not going to be properly fleshed out.
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>>169198726
Does it?
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Why does nobody use the Drang Twinhammers in PVP? Are they really that bad?
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>>169197235
>>169197309
Well, you could say he was a faggot
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>>169198849
I liked Dark Souls 2's Dragonfags. the fact that it was armor just worked better IMO
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>>169198864
you can parry someone while they heal with your peashooter and riposte them
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I wrote a very rushed post last thread about dark souls story, that it is essentially a religious origin story. It's borrowing heavily from greek & jewish stories like prometheus, eden, tower of babel, etc. Partially about how mankind recieved recieved the wisdom of the gods (ie the lord soul/dark soul), primarily about the gods reactions to this, which historically, even within the old testament, is fear, because the wisdom of the gods, the fire, gives mankind the ability to compete with and usurp them. This fear is so strong that yahweh keeps the tree of life, which grants immortality, protected by cherubim, and the act of giving manking the fire is such a treaterous sin that prometheus was sentenced to eternal torture for commiting it.

Dlc is gonna be about the "prometheus" and his/her punishment
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>>169198757
Lmao get cucked, dictionary.
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Any new info about ringed city? Please!
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>>169199024
or even an archfaggot
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>>169199072
Yeah, it was probably the best one as far as game-balance goes but it was still a pretty half-assed idea along with the dragon covenant which was practically nonsensical in how it was implemented.
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>>169198484
SNAKE-WORSHIPPING HARLOT
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>>169197930
It's a greatsword, so it's already busted and easy to use.
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>>169199173
Top abyssal kek
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>>169199167
Check the op.
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>>169198484
Ornifex
>genuinely friendly with no ulterior motive
>blacksmith
>gives you boss weapons
>lives right down the road
>thicc
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Does faith need a boost in casting speed? Always feels so slow, seeing as you also need to be pretty close to hit others with it.
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>>169198484
>she lives in a sandy pit filled with spiders and annoying as hell mages
>she doesn't move to Majula to stay in the same house as Shalquoir
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>>169199653
>thicc

What in the fuck's name are you talking about you corvus fuckerus? She's thinner than bulimic cancer patient on meth.
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>>169199893
Yes it does. I only hit retards with FTH in PvP. If the opponent has a fast weapon he can land a hit or 2 before I end casting, then he can dodge.
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>>169199961
>he misquotes posts
>>169199653
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>>169199982
"thicc" is 4chan lingo "I want to fuck it."
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>>169177216
I actually really want to see the strategy guide, if it's like the one that came with the first game. I get off on seeing all the secret enemy data and statistics.
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>>169200434
No, thicc is 4chan lingo for "has huge ass and thighs", newfriend.
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>>169200518
Have you seen Ornifex?
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>>169198484
Aside from pretty obviously manipulating you, sure.

Though, really, pretty much everyone is manipulating you. If you want the edgelord ending and to look like bacon anyways, she's the best.
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>>169200518
My point is that it lost all meaning, like "autism" and "shill".
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>>169199982
maybe. but she was still thicc where it counts
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>>169200434
Dude...
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>>169200628
What she's really doing is grooming the most powerful being to be a king.

Not to die in a fire or wander aimlessly for all eternity.
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>>169200434
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>>169200787
Why Thursday 12?
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>>169197782
>>169198029
>>169198198
>>169198262
>remember seeing that one before
>go dig up the dump
>guy has dumped more
>there's one of Priscilla fucking Yorshka with a strap-on

I was wondering when that would finally happen.
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Weaponslut Hornisex is def the better waifu.

Yuria is a manipulative piece of jerky more interested in a puppet than a lord.
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>>169200772
Actually it really is the best possible ending for you. Even if you go for the Usurpation ending, it's not like anyone can suddenly tell you what to do, least of all Yuria or the firekeeper.

There are no good endings for Dark Souls for anyone, but the best possible ending is the protagonist just telling his destiny to go fuck itself.

>>169200969
"Thick thursday"
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>>169200673
It only seems thicc by comparison. if you strech some skin over this skeleton, the hip to waist ratio will be big. but it's still a skeleton
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>>169200969
The original attempt to start "thick thursday".
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SotFS has finally clicked for me and I'm having a good time as a hexer, though I'm mainly using dark blade and melee with the occasional dark orb.

Where the hell do I get Darknight stones from? I have 1 from the crows and that's it. I just reached Iron Keep for reference.

I want to infuse my longsword+8 with it, but I heard the silverback sickle would be better? Please advise desu.
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>>169201032
Yuria isn't actually hollowed.

>>169201026
I need that dump more than Frampt would.
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>>169201039
You mean the bully end then.

>only ending where you can kill Yuria, Firekeeper and all those manipulative assholes
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>>169201151
All you need to do is to infuse with dark a Crypt BLACKEDsword
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Let's settle this
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12401901
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12401901
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12401901
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>>169200434
No. What the fuck? Are you retarded?
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>>169201312
Well, yeah, maybe... But you're seriously underpowered, and you still have to deal with what remains of Londor and the rest of the world.
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>tfw the best Lord is also the one that heavily supports the least effective ending
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>>169201456
Doesn't that require me to neat the rotten on ng+ using a bonfire ascetic? I've got one lying around but that sounds like suicide. I'm far squishier than i would've liked to be at this point to boot.
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What is it with japaneses and trees ? I'm playing God Eater 2 and made it to the second part of the game. The end of the world is contained in a tree, the same end of the world appeared at first as roots. It made me think about DaS and all the related tree stuff.
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>>169201548
Read on, friendo.
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>>169201610
>Doesn't that require me to neat the rotten on ng+ using a bonfire ascetic?
Yes. Don't be a pussy, he's slow as fuck. Yesterday I had to go NG+ Lost Sinner to get Flame Weapon.
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>>169201498
does Yuria sell BOSS WEAPONS?

no? then she can't be best waifu
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>>169201584
>underpowered

There's nothing left alive that could compete with me. Londor are weaklings, the strongest of them is a traitor that you likely killed.
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>>169200637
No it hasn't, you dumb faggot. Thick still means exactly the same thing as it used to mean. Stop being shit.
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>>169201608
He tells you to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
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Anyone want to see some good duels in DaS?
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>>169201608
At least he acknowledges that your choice should be your own.
>seize thy fate alone
What a bro. It's a shame the whole gundyr/firekeeper/ludleth plot points don't go further. Same with Yhorm actually.

Meanwhile there's plenty of info on the artorias fanclub and the very hungry cannibal.

>>169201720
Hmm alright then. Should I do iron keep or the majula pit first?
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>>169201723
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>>169201802
EXCEPT IN THIS CASE. WHEN IT'S USED TO DESCRIBE A LITERAL SKIN AND BONES.

Get it to your thick skull, that it doesn't work in the post it was used in. You fucking mongoloid.
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>>169201973
I never got why he was all scaly.
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>>169202001
are you actually retarded or do you just pretend on the internet
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>>169201894
Yhorm is fleshed out completely and his cutscene with Sieg is some of the coolest moments in the entire series.
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so whatever happened to Gwyn's wife? We never see her or really hear about her
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>>169201498
>There are people who unironically prefer a meth addict bird over true nobility.
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>>169201894
>Should I do iron keep or the majula pit first?

Depend on your SL. Go pit if you're already SL 60, Iron Keep if you're around 70 ~ 80.
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>>169202001
>WHEN IT'S wrongly USED TO DESCRIBE A LITERAL SKIN AND BONES.
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>>169202087
You're right what I meant to say was the profaned flame. Also the light crack in the distance has a resemblance to the one before majula. I wonder of we wouldve gotten to visit it originally.
>>169202149
Gotcha.
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>>169202149
>already

around*
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>>169202146
>true nobility
No, I would definitely take Gwynevere over Ornifex, but I value Yuria less than the Pisacas from the Duke's Archives
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>>169202227
You see more and more of it being WRONGLY used. Face it, the word is going the way of every other overused buzzwords.
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>>169202227
>>169202049
He's talking about the fact that Ornifex is mostly ridiculously skinny but just with slightly above normal sized ass and thighs that make it look huge by comparison.
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>>169202141
Fairly sure he never had a wife and all his children had different mothers, sometimes maybe not even humans. Gwyndolin has way too much serpent features.
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>>169202307
>Wanting to fuck a literal illusion of nothing.
Chances are, Gwynevere doesn't even look like that.
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>>169202345
Holy fucking shit, just stop. It's used incorrectly because fucking idiots like you don't even learn the meaning behind it. You just spout it, endlessly, over and over, in every situation and drive it in to the fucking ground. Just stop. You're worse than frogposters.
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>>169202146
If your "true nobility" can't give me a Fume Ultra Greatsword, she isn't worth shit
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>>169202345
No I don't. Thick always refers to thick.
>Face it
Face what? Are you autistic. People using words wrongly doesn't change the meaning of a word, it just makes them wrong.
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>>169202469
>Wanting to fuck a literal illusion of nothing.
Do you have any idea where you are?
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>>169202307
>Gwynevere has a symbol of the sun in her tiara
>girl from DLC trailer not only resembles her, but has a dark symbol in her tiara
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>>169202489
>It's used incorrectly because fucking idiots like you don't even learn the meaning behind it.

Pray tell me the deeper meaning of the word "THICK" you fucking retarded know it all.
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>>169201973
>WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, SON!
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>>169202589
That's almost certainly gwyns youngest daughter mentioned in the banner description.
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>>169202469
So a bunch of people carved a bunch of giant statues of an illusion Gwyndolin made after they all left?
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>>169202598
It isn't a super secret 4chan meme, you fucking chimp.
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Prisoner's Chain at SL60. Yes or no?
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>>169202792
Yes.
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>>169202589
>Gwynevere is Gwyn's daughter
>Ringed City is where Gwyn sent his youngest daughter
>implications they might be related
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>>169202598
Large diameter.
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>>169202783
>oldest son is a heir of sunlight
>oldest daughter is a princess of sunlight too
>younger son is related to Dark Sun
>younger daughter is probably connected to darkness as well
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>>169202859
Lore threads.
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>purging stones also reverse hollowing now

Any lore reasons for that? Like, in 3 we find out that the "hollow curse" isn't the same as the "undead curse", like the undead sign or dark sigil is "implanted in you" rather than automatically appearing in your chest when you die.
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>>169202853
Getting a little high for it, but the pros should still outweigh the cons. Go for it.
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>>169202886
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>>169202792
It's not a bunch of people. All those statues are made by the order of either Gwyn or Gwyndolin.
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>>169202853
depends on the weapon and if you're gonna trade alot, but say yeah
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>>169203138
>the Princess of Sunlight, Cherished by all, has never had any statues dedicated to her even though they made a statue of the freaking city executioner
>Gwyndolin had to pick up masonry and carve one himself to maintain his charade
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>>169203041
Probably because their dark sigil is some sort of fabricated dark sign and more akin to a curse that can be purged by the stone instead of the original undead curse with no cure.
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So let's say I'm using a greatsword or berd and I want muh poise at sl55, running havel/rofap/wolf/chain.
Obviously this means trades. Y/n?
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>>169203041
Probably because you're not straight up Undead in 3 and you're deliberately and willfully inflicting the curse on yourself, so it can be removed. It's not part of your fundamental nature, as an Unkindled.
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>>169202001
>retards use this word incorrectly
>this means I am in the right in using this word incorrectly


Thicc means what is has always meant, that morons use it as a catchall for hot/sexy/whatever is irrelevant.
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>>169203085
>>169203229
Awesome, thanks dudes
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>>169203337
Smough was Ornstein's pupil. Only his extreme cruelty kept him from becoming one of his knights. I would say that's why there's a statue of him there.
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>>169203491
>>169203085
Meant to ask you.
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>>169203138
>people make statues of the king's daughter because she's a well loved and popular princess

I don't see anything unusual about this. Is there something suspicious about a literal fertility goddess having huge titties? Like every other fertility goddess in human history?
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>>169203515
>>this means I am in the right in using this word incorrectly

Wait what, what makes you think I used the word thicc wrong? I haven't used thicc to describe Ornifex once.

Are you literally retarded?
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Where do I go with this build?

I have all the stats I need for the equipment and spells I'm using
Vig and End don't seem worth it, because I'll only be able take a fraction of an extra hit or throw a fraction of an extra swing before hitting the caps
A few points of attunement is a possibility for one more cast of Med Heal, but it won't actually help me in immediate combat, which is where I'm struggling
Faith seems kind of weak and again doesn't help me in combat without quite heavy investment
Str/Dex is the standard, but is quite an investment and ruins my perfect exact stat requirements
And to top it all off, while I'm happy with the Lothric Knight Sword I don't know if the Hollowslayer is a wise choice and I certainly don't know if dual wielding is worth it, though it feels like it has been

Basically I have a lot of options and all of them feel like the wrong one
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Why does pvp seem so much more fun at lower levels?

This isn't even exclusive to DaS3, it feels the same with both DS1/2.
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>>169203719
Because souls games never were designed for duelfaggotry and invasion in NG ranges is the best form of pvp possible.
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Is the carthus curved sword still considered bullshit?

What are the current meme/cancer weapons?
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>>169203719
Because people actually have builds that aren't quality and there's some variety to it.
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>>169198484
SNAKE HARLOT
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H
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There still Kaathe shills ITT.

Get out
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>>169203656
I'm sorry dude, I just assumed there would only be one person in the thread to stupid to understand what thicc means, this is really the problem with anonymity desu.
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>>169203719

Because meta fuckery hasn't set in yet. Everyone's still in the stumbling baby fawn stage, and that leaves it open for fun pratfalls.
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>>169203796
Normal Greatswords are the meta. Ccs is now darksword scrub tier because it had a significant nerf, although it had its weight and stamina cost reduced along with its AR.
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>>169203515
Simpsons memes are the best.
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Can someone explain pose break points to me? And how it changes depending on the weapon you're using?
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>>169203878
>to stupid

Whoops
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>>169203719
The variety is more evident at lower levels. Also, invasions mostly are really uncomfortable situations, where usually the host are totally "unprepared", so it requires a lot more creativity to pull off something to survive. Same applies to invaders, but the fun for them is just sheer bloodthirst. It's fun for them to hunt their prey.
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>>169203937
Thanks.
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>>169203937
CCS and other curved swords are probably still the best weapons in the game because of their roll catching ability, low stamina cost and high attack speed.
A GS even poisetanking is not going to win out against a rouge buffed CS.
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>>169203835
t. buttblasted Frampt

Still made 'cause Lord of Hollows is the canon ending?
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>>169203719
Because at lower levels in all games it's easier to make broken shit, so you feel better about killing people effortlessly or you can run weaker stuff that is usually bad but win because other players will be too stupid to beat it or will manage to make even worse builds
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>Every single fucking spell in the game is braindead easy to roll through.

Why does From suck so fucking much.
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>>169203134
ure a cheeki prick, u kno that?
>>169203583
Nice asspull. He was a cannibal executioner, nothing more
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>>169204236
End of fire is though.

I saw this as a guy who likes to kill firekeeper the most
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>>169204236
>worst ending
>canon

kük

Get out snake whore
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>>169203937
Shhh. Let me use my claymore in peace.
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>>169203937
Good. Its nice to play game series where mage classes arn't dominate for once.
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>>169204370
>Nice asspull

"Smough is the royal executioner of Anor Londo.
He relished his title as executioner so much so that he ground the bones of his victims into his feed.

Smough longs to be ranked with the Four Knights, but his cruelty forever denied the position."


Try paying attention to the lore next time.
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>>169204427
The title is reserved for linking the fire, something you can't fucking do, ashen undeadlet
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Which game did the twintails hair style best and why is it DS1?
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>>169204607
And where is it stated that he was Ornstein's pupil? Try paying attention to what you post next time
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>>169204614
>civilization continues for maybe a few hundred years more until shit gets fucked again
>bad

wew

Maybe next time they won't have a faggot like Lothric and someone hopefully links the fire in time
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>>169204768
If this was DS1 I'd agree. But by this point Miyazaki has beaten us over the head with the idea of letting go. Hell Ashes of Ariandel was this exact thing flipped on its head.
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>>169204768
>a few hundred years
Nah, it's more like a day or so at best. Did you not watch the cutscene? Have you not finished ds1 to be able to compare the flames produced each time? Are linkfags really in such denial?
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>>169204975
>>169205012
Oh I don't like linking the fire in 3.

But it's still better than becoming a lord of beefjerkies

End of Fire is the only real "good" ending
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>>169204692
Twintails has no place in dark souls or on a manly knight.

If you aren't a manly knight you're wrong at the game.
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>>169205242
Ah a fellow end of fire follower. You are correct indeed.

>>169205302
But what if I'm playing as a cute hexer?
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>>169205545
Hexers can't be cute anon
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>>169205302
>implying
Of you don't think pigtails are the tightest shit then get out of my face
>>169205242
But we were talking about 3 from the getgo, you fucking dummy
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Is there an actual reason behind how people turn into dragons? Why does Kirk say only one dude can become a dragon now, while Oceiros is well on his way to become Seath 2.0?

Why are those dank snake things bursting out of actual dragons?

Why do the Ghru and escaped Corvians look like the King of Storms?

Why does Gwyn have so many half-dragon kids?
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does respeccing at rosaria make sirris hostile?
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>>169205727
Felkin is pretty cute. He's all tripping over his own words whilst gifting you stuff purely out of admiration.

Plus he's sitting in a chair facing a wall.
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>>169206053
>Kirk
What?
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>>169206074
It used to but now it's fine. You can change appearance/respect without penalty and Sirris only gets angry if you equip the covenant item or offer tongues normally.
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>>169197232
SoC? link to song pls?
I'm very new to the games
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>>169206053
Everything returns to the initial state of existence which is archtrees and dragons.
Dragons are the true villains and Mother of Dragons is actual big bad who just want to restore the world into primeval state.
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>>169197232
you'll experience it at the end of DaS3 lad
wouldn't want to ruin it for you
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>>169206216
thank god. otherwise I would have to play through half the game with a shit build
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>>169206053
>Is there an actual reason behind how people turn into dragons? Why does Kirk say only one dude can become a dragon now, while Oceiros is well on his way to become Seath 2.0?

Kirk? Also, the whole Seath thing seems to be a special case. After 1, Seath pretty much became some kind of eldritch pressence, possessing people over the ages
>Why are those dank snake things bursting out of actual dragons?
gud question, what are they anyway?

>Why do the Ghru and escaped Corvians look like the King of Storms?
But they don't?

>Why does Gwyn have so many half-dragon kids?
He doesn't, Yorshka may or may not be his daughter but that's the only one
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>>169206074
Only if you explicitly level up at the covenant with the Tongue.

>>169206216
No, she doesn't get pissed anymore if you put on the badge.
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>>169206356
woops, meant for >>169206262
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>>169206107

>you will never have a shy, scruffy bf like Felkin

just invade my heart the FUCK up
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what's a good build for Morne's hammer?

I mean it requires such a heavy stat investment to begin with, and I'd like to stay at 120...
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>>169206501
I can be a good bf!
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>You will never fight Lorian in his prime

What the fuck is his problem anyway, why is he a cripple
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>>169206586
You're like a frail maiden on the front lines.
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>>169206861

He took in his brother's curse and got fucked up because of it.
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Souls noob here, playing Demon's Souls.
When should I start upgrading my gear? I'm still in full Fluted and got my starting Long Sword. I've cleared 1-2, 2-2, 3-1 and 4-1 if it matters.
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>>169206481
https://youtu.be/Z9dNrmGD7mU?t=130

2:10
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Ornstein was the Captain of the Four Knights, and he was trained by the Gwyn's Firstborn himself. He was most likely the one to decide who gets to enter their club. That would pretty much answer that because it's obvious that for Smough to join them, it would require him to be trained by Ornstein, but I want to get a bit more into that.

When we reach the Anor Londo cathedral, we fight both of them, right? If you kill Smough first, you'll noticed that Ornstein wasn't really happy about you killing him, in fact, he was really upset that you killed his pupil. He could be one of his trustful knights, maybe he was changing his gory ways, who knows? But no, the player character denied him his chance to become something greater than a vicious cannibal.

Now, if you defeat Ornstein first, Smough will actually strike the killing blow on him, kinda brutally, showing that he wasn't ok with being held outside the Kinght's inner circle by Ornstein, for not being ready yet to join them.

That's why I think that their relationship was one of master and pupil.
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>>169198939
>>169198939
>>169198939
>>169198939
>>169198939
REEEEE REPSOND TO ME
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>>169207163
Generally you'll end up finding new weapons as loot that will serve you better than upgrading what you already have.
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>>169206861
He took on his brothers curse so he wouldn't have to bare it alone.

Not really into the incest shitposting about the Twin Princes, but I think it's sweet how they stay by each other's side and care about one another. Seems pretty comfy to wait out the Age of Fire in that huge castle.

>No Lothric Faithful covenant
>Can't take Lothric up on his offer to rest there too though I'm pretty sure he's taunting you
Would be so much better
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>>169206861
>yfw you can summon Lorian for the Demon Prince fight in DLC2
Bonus points if he's just a little bit bigger than the player, like when you can summon Father Gascoigne in Bloodborne.
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>>169207337
What could Ornstein possibly teach to Smough? They have completely different fighting styles.
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>>169207398
Use them yourself. I think it has some bullshit where you can hit the weaponart after an r1 or l1. Don't think a weapon is bad because no one uses it. Most people playing these games are just uncreative as hell and just look up: ''whats the best weapon?''
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>>169198939
>>169207398
I was going to make a pyro build that uses them, but most of my other builds use pyros.
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>>169207498
>>169207510
>invade a host called "Prince Lorian"
>He's cooping with "Prince Lothric"

Cute as fuck.

I hope I will see their sign at the demon princes
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>>169207709
>tfw no friend to co-splay with
Found this guy last night, though.
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>>169207619
Im not looking for the best build at all, just wanted to know if they are somewhat viable. Like I PvP with a Greatsword, so im not too fancy on weapons
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>>169206053
Seath is a mutant abortion dragon and is explicitly mortal and gross, told you to by the fucking entirety of Dark Souls 1. You do not become Seath via the Way of the Dragon. Oceiros fucked himself up on purpose with magic.

If you'd paid attention, you'd also know the big faggots in front of the gates of Lothric aren't Dragons. The people of Lothric call Drakes/Wyverns Dragons and the actual ancient dragons "Archdragons".

The Way of the Dragon is a buddhist bullshit cult where people deliberately try and let go of their humanity and souls and shit so they can transcend life and death and escape the cycle of the linking of the fire by becoming Dragons and peacing out.

There can probably only be one because every incarnation of the Covenant has them fighting each other in ritual combat. Even Hawkwood does it to you.
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So i was playing dark souls one for my first play through, I accidentally entered the painted world and restored my humanity for some help. But some player invaded

He cursed me, degraded my equipment and made me an egghead. what an asshole.
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>>169207540
Discipline, honor, the power absorption thing. Lots of stuffs besides fighting styles can be teached by a Captain.
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>>169206053
HAWKWOOD wanted to be the true dragon, having both twinkling stones. Oceiros probably doesn't count since he's finished his transformation no longer requiring stones
Pus of man, abyss manifesting itself after inhabiting an empty vessel
They don't really look that alike. Dragon are lizards, crows are birds, birds have lizardy ancestry
He doesn't.
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>>169207913
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Where did the "Redacted Capital Knight armor set screenshots" come from?
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>>169207398
Their attack startups are ridiculously slow and the reach makes them painful to hit anyone with. They hit like a truck when they do, but it's basically like playing a greathammer with less range now that poise exists.
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>invade a midgame area
>get ganked by a spellcaster, havelfag, and a undergeared host


errytime
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>>169208018
Australian game review site.
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>>169207302
>gwyn's beard fucking NEVER
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>>169208019
Wait did they patch poise? Does it work as in DaS and Das2 now??
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>>169206445
>>169206215
>>169208001

Fuck, mixed someone up with Hawkwood.

Eh, wyverns/drakes are descended from them, close enough. Still doesn't explain why they're infected.

I expected Oceiros to be like that actually, but he seems surprisingly...himself. Then again, the disappearance of Chaos would imply the Witch's soul is almost gone and by extention Nito's, so is Seath withered down to little more than a cosplay outfit?

>But they don't

Some of the mutant Corvians grow four wings. The Ghru's mane, beak formation and head ridges are shared by the King.

Gwyndolin, too. That's the real question-it seems certain humans can become dragons to an extent, the question is whether-and how-Lords can as well. Nameless King's suspiciously lacking in dragonlike features for someone who outright betrayed the Lords for them.

>>169206293
>Mother of Dragons

Fuck. So now Dark Souls has a Tiamat? Has a soul description been leaked yet?
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>>169208062

>invade undead settlement
>host wearing Nameless King set, complete with his spear
>has 2 phantoms, one dressed as Lothric and the other as Lorian, complete with weapons

While admittedly neat to see, I don't want to see this shit at SL 15.
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>>169207913
>in the painted world

Well that's a pretty fucked up thing to do. Luckily for you, you're in the one area where you don't have to fight the boss to exist. Jump down the well, dodge the Bone Zone, then sprint to the boss room and bail.

Alternately, CE yourself some purging stones, repair powder, and an egg vermifugre, because it's not like he wasn't cheating.
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>>169208220
>ywn cosplay as Nameless King while a naked dragonbro co-host backs you up
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>>169208062
Is this why spells are somewhat easy to dodge? Because I would dread having to fight a ganksquad with magic that's hard to dodge too, shit would be impossible.
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>>169208203
Gwyndolin isn't a half dragon though.

Just a feminine pile shit and a huge disappointment
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>>169197232
Man I loved SoC in general, I know it's pandering as fuck but when he did the ninja flip I lost my shit.
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>>169208391
he's half serpents
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>>169207954
the "power absorption thing" is an old custom, not a specific power attributed to and taught by ornstein. anyone could have taught him. and smough didn't so much absorb ornstein's soul as smashed the fuck out of him and lathered his hammer with pikachu juice
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>>169208170
No, it replaced what everyone was calling hyper armor. More weapons have it now, and it's active during more frames, but it's based off your actual poise stat. Basically, you don't get poise or the ability to trade unless you're using weapons greatsword and heavier, or certain weapon arts.

It's shit for PvE but works well for PvP.

>>169208203
>Mother of Dragons

He's fucking with you.

And it's not "close enough" you mongoloid sperg. Nobody tries to transcend into a drake. They're called out as being extremely distant, pissant relatives who aren't even immortal or psychic or anything. They got infected by the abyss goo because it infects everything living, see: Artorias of the Abyss.

Oceiros inflicted that shit on himself from the crystalnomicon bullshit he read in the Archives because he wanted to be a dragon and took the cheap way.
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>>169208354
>dragonfag is a mad phantom
>when he reaches low hp, nameless king blows him up with his weaponart
Sounds neat.
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>>169208243
>Jump down the well, dodge the Bone Zone

Yeah, simple as can be.
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>>169208391
Trying to explain basic lore precepts that have existed for years is really difficult to faggots who jumped on after the youtube lore video shit became a fad.

>>169207954
Everyone absorbs the souls of their dead buddies. It's an ancient tradition thing. Nameless King says so.
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>>169208243
I already cured everything, it was just damn annoying.
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>>169207913
pvp watchdog, get it and forget it
>>169208497
"part of his legs consists of a form of imperfect dragon" is a long way from "he's a half dragon". the painter is much closer to a half serpent, humanlike with snake characteristics.
>>169208391
>disappointment
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What are sum strategies to go with the Morne's Greathammer? Roll in and do the WA? any combo even if its slow as fuck?
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>>169202589
I think she looks rather like Priscilla.
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Just got back into Dark Souls again. Played through DS1 and beat the everloving shit out of it, since I had something like 400 hours played when it first came out.

Now, though, I'm playing through DS2, Nerd Edition. It's kinda fresh, didn't realize they'd shuffled all the enemies around, makes things a new experience. I even decided to join the Champions Covenant for extra fun. Stuck on Sentinels right now, a little sad that holy water isn't broken any more.
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>>169208863
Not surprising given that Priscilla is most likely related to Gwyn's family too
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>>169208818
the kick comboes into switching to a good weapon and attacking
>>169208503
>>169207954
forgot to add, discipline and honor aren't things smough appears to have
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>>169208503
>>169208670
I can't quite remember now, but besides NK, Ornstein and Smough, who else we see absorbing souls of dead buddies in game?
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>>169208662
PLUNGING ATTACK
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>get oneshot with Homing Crystal Soulmass and Crystal Soul Spear because my opponent has Brazilian internet
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>>169208510
>but it's based off your actual poise stat

So if I have more armor, poise that will be higher, which means my hyperarmor will be stronger right?
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>>169208989
Noone. But we got this tasty lorsel from storm cs
>When the great beast fell, the king claimed his soul, as was the custom in the age of the gods.
So try and tell me once again I need to pay attention to lore, you meme
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After anor londo you can get the four lords souls in any order right?
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>>169209101
Hue
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>>169209124
yeah, poise will effect whether you can trade with rapiers or great weapons
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>>169208062
>you need 82 Vit plus Havel's +2, FaP +2 and Prisoner's Chain in order to go full Havel without fatrolling, requiring SL156
>goes down to 44 Vit at SL118 if you want to be just under 100%
That Havel you fight at ADP is a fucking hacker.
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>>169208006
this is pretty bad senpai
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>>169209245
ah cool, thanks a lot man.
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>>169209210
Yeah
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>>169209101
>lose to a guy who has stone tier internet
>bonus: he chug his estus
>he bows

Nothing triggers me more than this shit
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>>169208478
SoC was the only bit of fanservice that I genuinely enjoyed in DaS3
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>>169208985
I dont think Morne's that bad, of course Greathammers are slow but Morne's can deal quite a damage
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>>169208985
>forgot to add, discipline and honor aren't things smough appears to have

But Ornstein could be trying to teach him. Only, he was too stubborn to actually learn it and accept the Ornstein and the Knights weren't ok with his cruelty. Smough could be pretending to be listening to him, otherwise, why would he wait Ornstein to be really weak to kill him?
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>>169209320
the problem with it is it requires a ridiculous stat investment for what is honestly a garbage moveset.

Even it's rolling attack is really bad.
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>>169209290
and i mean "whether you can tank and trade against light weapons or heavy weapons"
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>>169209313
It felt like just the right amount to me, the first phase was like a greatest hits of the shit you'd see in Darkroot without going full meme with GiantDad or whatever and the Gwyn phase felt like the realization of how they wanted Gwyn to feel in 1 on top of being a reaction to how easy how was to cheese with how now he'll actually parry you instead.
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>>169209360
So you're simply asspulling and trying to bend the facts to accommodate to you. Nothing implies Smough was his disciple. My guess is that you stuck with this to justify your headcanon that the illusion of Gwynevere we see doesn't look like the real thing
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>>169209313
NK and ODK were better.
Nameless was fine but should've been a better amalgam instead of 24/7 big armor fuck. Make his body shape shift as well as his weapon.

If you're going to pander, turn it up to 11.
perfecting him should result in a praise the sun gesture before he dies
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>>169209194
>in the age of the gods.

Exactly. And we see only one god, his pupil, and the probable pupil of this pupil using this technique.
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>>169209684
*meant SoC
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Does Aldrich's Ruby restore HP from counter-damage, or just backstabs / ripostes?
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>>169209740
Based on what?
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>>169209437
Is Smough Hammer better? I just want to use a GH honestly tho Smough hammer size annoys me a bit
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>>169209815
only backstabs and ripostes. AKA as critical attacks.
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>>169209840
have fun with the most important half of your screen omitted
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>>169209828
You just quoted me answering me how many times we SEE enemies absorbing another one's soul.

>And we see only one god...

I'm basing on what we witness in this game.
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Did anyone here try Nioh and think it was boring as fuck
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>>169210405
No, it was actually fun as fuck.
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>>169210098
Dude, it was a custom. A relatively common thing to do when someone died. Probably something to do with connecting his soulpiece with a certain oversoul. You actively do that yourself each time you kill a boss or even an enemy. It's not as ceremonial, but you absorb the soul. Literally nothing points to Smough being Ornstein's pupil and this is what I was asking the basis for. Obviously not the facts
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why don't we do fight clubs anymore?
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>>169210405
Combat is fun but the loot system is so fucking cancer I want to vomit, it's worse than gems in BB
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>>169208863
I wasn't the only one who thought that huh?

Part of it is probably just the dress though.

>>169209740
Yes? Ornstein and Smough are from the Age of the Gods too. Your point?

You realize you're effectively doing the same thing when you take boss souls, right? Except you have to trade them through NPCs for powerups because game design.
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>>169210405
I tried the network test and it just didn't click with me. I liked it and all, but it just didn't "feel" right.
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>>169210494

Man, this clip really makes me appreciate Souls' minimalist HUD.
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>>169209101
I love this
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>>169210646
Okay so I'm not insane. It might just be too "team ninja" you know?? cute feet btw
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>>169210753
>has an option to roll out of gestures because this isn't fucking DaS1
>he doesn't
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Does anyone know if the Ringed City is going to be locked behind a certain ending? Debating if I should end the game now.
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>>169210753
>no *bows respectfully*
trash
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>>169210559
No hosts
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>>169210753
what SL is this? doesn't look meta
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>>169210904
I was SL 90
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>>169210864
Almost certainly not. There's no reason for it to be
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Im makin a build with full's Lautrec armor and Sunlight Shield

Whats some gold weapon that would fit the set? Dragonslayer spear? Smough Hammer?
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Anyone down for a co-splay run tonight?
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>>169211053
Valorheart
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>do a 2v2 duel
1 guy doesnt show up and it ends a 2v1

this needs to stop happening
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>>169211053
Drqagonslayer Spear / Nameless's Swordspear

But why use full Lautrec set? Use a combination of different gold sets. There's plenty of them.
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>>169211481
specifically Gherman and Maria?

also,

>not "Kosplay"
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>>169211657
I just happened to mugen Gehrman and Maria, but if you have any other suggestions, I'm down. I've got a couple Final Fantasy characters made. Planning an Ezio Auditore (Revelations) cosplay if you want to take Altaiir.

>>not "Kosplay"
Ah fuck, you right.
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>>169211808
Executioner run with the bonewheel is fun. not particularly viable, but still unreasonably fun
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>>169211957
I was thinking of doing that. Lemme make a map that out real quick.
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Why the fucking fuck do you need the Ashen Mist Heart to get to Alonne!? What kind of stupid gating bullshit is that!? God dammit!
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>>169211657
or some say kosmplay...
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>>169210554
>>169210609
Yeah, you guys are right. Evidence of Smough being Ornstein's pupil is nowhere to be seen.
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>>169210405
I wanted to play it, but now that I see it, it looks extremely ugly and MMOish.
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>>169211957
I've been really wondering if pontiff rings + carthus beacon would make the WA deal more damage, and how much more, but I'm too lazy to farm because PS4.
I've also heard that SMS actually increases shield AR a bit, but I have no idea.
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>>169212189
Because it's a memory, exactly the same as the giant memories. Of course you're going to need the key to open the same door.
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>>169211957
>>169212054
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>>169210405
>feetfags having garbage taste

Nothing unusual here
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>>169212363
Quit huffing that dick for five seconds and exercise some reading comprehension.

You can believe he's his pupil or not however you like, it's not a "special technique" that has to be passed down from Ornstein and NK specifically. Absorbing souls is the basis of the entire setting. The custom is that you finish off your fallen buddy to claim his instead of letting the badguy have it.
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>>169212553
>autism weeaboo nerd ass bitch likes japan game

I freaking love Japan
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>>169209313
>Here's some piano notes and hey look he uses player moves and recycles a boss fight from two fucking games ago

Hey, kill yourself. At least Abyss Watchers tried to be a unique fight, but both are god awful fanservice horseshit. We needed more Sulyvahns and Twin Princes, and a million times less Aldrich/AW/SoC, and infinitely less zitpopping bosses where the fights over in 10 hits.

Jesus Christ DS3 is such garbage.
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>>169202589

Tfw gwyns youngest daughter is the in-game representation of eve
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Is the guy who needed Demons fists on PS4 still here? I can trade now, preferably for a Lorian GS.
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Can anyone help me with 4kings on the 360? Im sl1 and getting real sick of this shit
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>>169212054
>>169212391
>>169212472
honestly the only real issue with the bonewheel shield is how much stamina it consumes per attack
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>>169211653
I dont know, i cant seem to make Lautrec helmet or chest piece to fit with anything else
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Would Raw Astora at 10+ be viable for pvp at sl120 do you think? Thinking about it for my hybrid pyro. I would be using it for throwing in a swing or two here and there. Also how much would it do buffed with chaos/ human resin. What are your thoughts? Viable?
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>>169212924
Why not just Chaos infuse it
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>>169212696
>We needed more Sulyvahns and Twin Princes
i never said we didn't, faggot
all I said was that out of all the fanservice present in DaS3, Soul of Cinder was the only thing I really enjoyed
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>>169212558
>Absorbing souls is the basis of the entire setting. The custom is that you finish off your fallen buddy to claim his instead of letting the badguy have it.

That's literally it, if Sweet bro and hella Jeff didn't do the whole soul absorption thing, you could get one of them mid fight, being the one who killed the first one you defeat.
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>>169213092
Your opinion is wrong, sorry
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>>169212667
What are you even saying, what a buzzword salad
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>>169204181
Yes it is, every time. Especially if the gs user throws in some r2s to punish roll attempts. And honestly fuck you, if l see you buff in any way you're getting the duel talisman.
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>>169213092
i disagree it just felt like another generic who gives a fuck boss
i understand the idea about it but they couldn't really do much since it's supposed to represent a run of the mill character from ds1
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>>169212696
What do you have against Aldrich you humungous salty cunt
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>>169212924
>using shit weapons
just stick to darksword if you want a straight sword
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>>169212667
>Soulsborne
>not autism
>not weaboo
>not japan
Wrong general/website?
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>>169213409
>Crystal Sage 2: the Squeakuel
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>>169213373
>i disagree it just felt like another generic who gives a fuck boss
what better way to send off the series than to compile all the previous souls games into one boss
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>>169213437
>post nerf shitsword
>not Anri's/Lothric Knight/Gotthard's
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>all I said was that out of all the fanservice present in DaS3, Soul of Cinder was the only thing I really enjoyed

That's the only thing I attacked, nigger. I said we needed more Sulyvahns and TP's in case you wanted to make a discussion out of it, since "ur opinion is wrong faggot" is the most unbearable type of post on 4chan.

>>169213409
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
>hit him for a cycle
>he teleports to the other side of the room
>uses <spell that we've seen 3 times in this series so far that you just time your rolls for inbetween his moves>
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>>169213437
Are you retarded or just plain stupid? The fact that he's making it raw tells us he's not going to have any Strength or Dex worth a shit, so the Dark Sword would be garbage for him.
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3rd try at actively playing Dark Souls 2.
Last 2 times I was hating the game too much.
I'm hating it again now but I've gotten far further than before and I think I'm gonna be able to do it this time.
Also beat my first invader. He was real nice and dropped a miracle for me to heal before battle. Proved itself useful for after winning.

Demons Souls is up next.
And then if only I wasn't poor I'd go for DS3

Just felt like blogging today, thanks /dsg/
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>>169213808
You can drop spells in DS2?
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>>169213697
>why the FUCK doesn't the boss just STAND STILL AND LET ME HIT IT
>HOW DARE HE ATTACK ME
Literally every boss requires nothing more than for you to "time your rolls between his moves", you little shit. Or at the most to start running into a random direction when it does the Big Unblockable Attack.
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>>169213979
Sorry, I might not have been clear. He used a miracle that made a small ball of light which would heal on proximity. I know not it's name as I've yet to use a Faith build.
Sorry anon.
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>>169213979
Nope, you can discard them though.
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>>169213697
>That's the only thing I attacked, nigger.
the "only fanservice bit I enjoyed" statement denotes a vehement dislike for how DaS3 is bloated with fanservice in the first place you autist
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>>169212467
And? It's fucking stupid to have a chunk of the DLC locked behind a door you need a key from the last 5% of the main game to open.
>b-but its a memory
Then make it not a fucking memory! Alonne's still alive because time is convoluted and came back to the tower, or he's a hallow, or Nadalia animates his armor and that's the boss, or it's not actually Alonne but his best pupil, fucking ANYTHING besides "hey here's this DLC, you can get there pretty quickly, but you can't fight one of the bosses until you've practically beaten the main game already because fuck you."
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>>169213610
and make it specifically all about Dark Souls 1.

it's just Chosen Undead + Gwyn.

that's it.

there is no DaS2 representation, and there is no DaS3 representation. It's just another DaS1 "HEY MEMBER THIS?", and it was anti-climactic as fuck.
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Are any boss soul weapons actually useful or can I just eat them all like the disgusting fat fuck I am
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Anyone on PS4 need help with anything?

>>169214018
>replying
You can tell by the very length of the post that it was bullshit. Save your energy next time, anon.
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>>169212797
>sl1
>wants help

You chose to do this challenge run. If you cheat now, it doesn't count
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>>169214186
in ds2 btw
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>>169213667
>not sunlight
You're both shitters desu
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>>169214186
They're all worth fuck-all for raw souls so you might as well make something unique out of them.
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>>169213610
Honestly I would have preferred it if instead of the "This is THE PLAYERS!" phase the Soul of Cinder had three phases, one for each Lord Soul.

That way all Lords would get some much deserved representation, not just Gwyn.
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>>169214186
Dragonslayer Spear is good, Smelter Sword, Sacred Oath, thats all i remember as being pretty good
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>>169214018
>MUH AUTISM I LOVE MY "WAIT TEN SECONDS TO CONTINUE FIGHT" RECYCLED MOVE BOSS

>Literally every boss requires nothing more than for you to "time your rolls between his moves"
Read.
>roll inbetween his moves
as in you're not attacking when he's attacking like every other boss, you're rolling for the glowy orbs that he shares with Gwyndolin/Lothric inbetween his moves, and that's the literal only attack he uses that is any ""threat"" (if you can even call it that) whatsoever aside from the "run away for 10 more seconds arrows".

The fight is literally just waiting for him to rise up out of the ground and then flipping a coin to see if he does his arrow move to do some more waiting.

As another anon said, it's Crystal Sage all over again, except this time without the threat of death looming over your head because Aldrich is utterly fucking harmless as if CS wasn't easy already. It's a lore boss, and his lore is "look it's some more ptde babby garbage".

That's why Aldrich is shit. You are free to feel otherwise. You would be wrong.

>>169214065
>the "only fanservice bit I enjoyed" statement denotes a vehement dislike for how DaS3 is bloated with fanservice in the first place you autist
It also states that you liked the absolute worst fanservice in the entire game, which, again, is what I attacked. Why are you still replying?
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>>169214519
>the absolute worst fanservice in the entire game
wrong
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>tfw get to live out my soul eater cosplay with the scythe in ds3
I even whisper to my weapon sometimes to get into the mood and yell out stance changes.
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>>169214621
You did the thing, anon. You have to actually finish your sentence so that other people can tell you why you're wrong, otherwise it's just a shitpost with an anime reaction image.
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>>169214474
That makes no sense though. The Soul of Cinder is the souls of people sacrificed to link the flame. Gwyn is the only one of the original Lords who ever did. After him, it was an endless train of heroic Undead. It's a specific nod to the cycles shit Dark Souls 2 set up, while also giving Gwyn a special place as the guy who started it all in Dark Souls 1.

It's pretty appropriate, it just could have used more foreshadowing.
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>>169214186
In Ds2? Depends on your character.
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why has the summoning in DaS3 suddenly become so shit
i'm getting endless amounts timeouts when I try to summon my friends
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>>169214041
that sounds like warmth. it's a pyromancy
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>>169214734
use the way of white circlelet

it unsoftbans you
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>>169214519
>Crystal Sage
>more deadly than Aldrich

What?

I mean at least the arrows can kill you if you get stuck in them. I've never seen anyone die to Crystal Joke.
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>>169214734
It's a feature.

>remember trying to summon in Dark Souls 1?

based Miyazaki!
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>>169214754
Yes, that was exactly it. Thanks anon
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which one was worse?
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>>169214734
When you don't fulfill the objective of co op (destroy the boss, kill the host, etc) it adds a penalty over time and basically softbans you. do what this anon said >>169214805
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>>169214831
>He doesn't know he can unlock and sprint away

Yikes.

The hollows in the tutorial zone are more threatening than Aldrich. It doesn't mean the hollows in the tutorial zone are deadly, it means they're more deadly than Aldrich. I thought the post made that very clear.
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Whats a good look for a paladin\crusader type build?
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>>169214920
By far the latter. Ancient Wyvern wasn't a great boss, but he was at least a brief, entertaining setpiece with some effort put into the setup and environment.

Ancient Dragon was crammed in on some guy's all nighter the day before it went gold, and so everything about him is hilariously half-assed, from the third world country grade animations, to the MHFU grade hitboxes, to his only attempt at difficulty being "every single attack oneshots you from full" and having the most massive health pool in the series.
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>>169214714
let's look at what's available to us in dark souls 3
>hey look it's gwyndolin
>anor londo again
>O&S' armor
>artorias' fanclub
>izalith again
>gwyn
>siegward
>patches
and so forth and so forth
taking into consideration that one of the most memorable moments of dark souls 1 was entering the kiln and hearing those three piano notes, it's unsurprising that was what they chose to end the game
and coincidentally it ended up being the only bit of fanservice that felt like it was done tastefully
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What is this bullshit where I can only hit once, then have to dodge roll 3-4 times to avoid getting stagger locked by everybody just because I'm not using a weapon with hyperarmor. I don't have the stamina to keep this up forever and then they can sippy cup infinitely too???

It's like if you're not using a greatsword or something you can fuck off in pvp it's too much effort to try and win otherwise

same with having no armor I can't even take a hit to begin with it takes half my hp and then they usually have bleed or something too its like fuck.

pvp is for nerds
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>>169214721
I'm sure they could brush up some explanation as for why the two other Lord Souls would be returned to the fire and how they would be part of the Soul of Cinder, that's the lesser of all issues. Naturally the explanation that it is simply a fused incarnation of all the older Lords would have to be reworked a bit.

The thing is, as a final boss, I feel a lot less invested in a handful of basic character builds than I do in the three beings that at the very beginning of the franchise you see harnessing the Flame's power and using it to defeat the Everlasting Dragons and bring forth the Age of Fire.
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>>169212696
Fuck you faggot. Just a butt hurt dark souls 2 shit lord.
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>>169215203
No.
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>>169215079
Why the hell does this fucker only drop a giant soul. It takes a fucking eternity to get this lizard and you only get a giant soul.
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>>169214805
>>169214986
wow
that's fucking shit
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Dark Souls 3 has the best PVE content, and garbage PVP. Luckily i'm a PVE player, so its awesome
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>>169215606
>Dark Souls 3 has the best PVE content
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First phase of SoC is good. Second phase is trash, and even worse for how good the first phase is. The game HAD it, then wussed out and went back to throwing more Ds1 references at the player. At least it suits the game.
Piano song is ruined too. Yeah just take the memorably soft and low-key tune that everyone loves and make it all operatic and "epic" like every fucking song in the game. Do that, Ds3. Just take a huge shit all over it. That'll make me love you.
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>Get summoned for co-op
>Host is facing a purple, already has a blue helping
>Blue kills purple and goes home
>Host BCs me out
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>>169214920
People will say AD because it was DS2, but AW is way worse. The fight is the literal exact same every time with absolutely no way of making it interesting. AD at least you can try to fight the piece of shit normally and not just sit between his toes and you'll see 5 moves instead of 3.


They are both absolutely garbage, though. DS3 just had too many of these "whoops their entire healthbar is gone" bosses already.


>>169215117
It was by far the most distasteful part, because you could argue any other part of the game was giving you the endings of those characters stories.

>Gwyndolin got fed to a slug
>Anor Londo fell to ruin
>O&S ate shit after going their separate ways, and hey, Smough wasn't such a bad guy
>Artorias fanclubs don't just exist on /dsg/ and reddit, they exist in the Dark Souls universe too
>Demons are all dead

>Patches is here again
>An Onion Knight
These two aren't even strictly DS1 fanservice, just memes.

People got pissed off that DS2 wasn't a true sequel to DS1 because it didn't fanservice the shit out of everything 100% of the game, so that's what they did with DS3, and this is where we ended up.

The difference between SoC and the rest of the garbage is that it's not the end of Gwyn's story. Gwyn's story ended before we got to him in the Kiln in DS1, and if you want to make the argument that it didn't, it definitely ended when CU off'd him. He was no different than literally any other Lord of Cinder that tapped the kiln.

There's absolutely, 100%, zero purpose whatasoever in LoC's second phase being Gwyn aside from muh nostalgia. And it worked. Shitters actually buy into it. If that shit had been done as an optional boss, fine. But we needed an actual character with lore implication for the final boss of the entire Dark Souls series, and instead we got Gwyn again.

I'm sure people will make the argument that the Ruined Capital King will be the ""real final boss"" of Dark Souls, but I'm not gonna excuse how terrible SoC is.
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>>169215707
>people are STILL posting shit like this
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>>169215642
He is correct
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>>169215642
No fuck you I'll say what I want. Best art design, best multi staged bosses, individual level design, best music, best lore.
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>>169215446
cuz lore man

>>169215606
Have you played Bloodborne? You should play Bloodborne.

>>169215464
Yuuuuup. Pretty great.
Why was that a thing anyway?
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>>169215776
>you can only dislike something for a short time
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>>169215332
great post anon, you really showed that guy posting about DS3 that he liked DS2
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>>169215769
Soul of Cinder is the best fight in the series. Its common consensus its the best final boss in Souls. So go fuck yourself same fag. You are outnumbered.
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>>169215818
>best lore
literally what lore?
>People linked the flame, and they don't want to do it again, wrangle them up and bring em back. Now fight Gwyn again
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>>169215117
>izalith again
Nigga I was mad it WASN'T Izalith, just a tiny section of Demon Ruins. Do you have any idea how cool it would be if the Smouldering Lake was ACTUALLY the city of Lost Izalith, except the section of the plate it was built on top of had given out and it had completely collapsed on the Ash Lake below? And you had to explore the city with it slightly askew as it rested on an ash bank between the towering archtrees and the deep lake as far as the eye can see, with lava streams still falling from above as the fire of Izalith set the section of Ash Lake around it ablaze?
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>>169215769
>People got pissed off that DS2 wasn't a true sequel to DS1 because it didn't fanservice the shit out of everything 100% of the game
so this is how DaS2 cucks think
people were pissed off at DS2 because DS2 was a steaming pile of shit filled with throwaway bosses, jumbled-up lore and trash game mechanics
its only saving grace was Crown of the Ivory/Iron King
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>>169214186
A bunch of shit is good.

Dragonrider stuff
Pursuer's
Roaring Halberd once you get Bracing Knuckle Ring
Major League Great Sword
FUGS
Lost Sinner's Sword
Crypt Blacksword
Loyce Greatsword
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>>169215993
Untended Graves, Lothric and Lorian, Yhorm the Giant, Abyss Watchers. The Pontiff. The Church of the Deep. Sabel Church of Londor. There's tons of good lore.
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>>169215993
>using "literally" wrong
>simplifying that much

Retard
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>>169215032
Cloth over plate is the staple
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>>169216030
>ash lake is the soot left behind in the wake of the Witches' firstorms
>suddenly archtrees are burning again in DS3
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>>169216095
>it's only saving grace was <weeb bosses and ds1 fanservice>

shit nice
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>>169215993
Literally what lore has this franchise ever had?
>some old dude is worried about fire, go stab him and decide if you want to immolate yourself or not
Freaking children, go read a book or something
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>>169214805
>>169214986
Uh, that's not what it does, you only rack up penalty for DC-ing during an active connection.
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>>169216206
That's all it is, though.
NOTHING important is ever revealed. You could argue that Nameless' reveal is important, but that was always a side story with item descriptions.
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>>169216262
>weeb bosses
Sir Alonne was the only weeb boss there and he was the tightest shit you faggot
>ds1 fanservice
like?
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>>169216246
Izalith pyromancy is so hot even things that already caught fire can catch fire again
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>>169216462
are you the same nerd who backed up pigtails cause im starting to think you might be a gay nigga
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>>169216462
>Sir Alonne was the only weeb boss there and he was the tightest shit you faggot
holy shit this sentence is so ironic it's not even funny

>implying BIK wasn't a huge fucking weeb fight anyway

yeah no anti-gravity over-the-top leaps and giant laser sword wasn't anime whatsoever, you're right

>like?

Majestic Greatsword? Old Chaos? CotSK had very little DS1 fanservice and you coincidentally didn't mention that one.
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>>169216462
Hah the faggot screaming "DARK SOULS 3 SUCKS, TOO MUCH FANSERVICE" is a Dark Souls 2 fanboy. What a loser.
:
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>>169214253
Grumble. Fine I'll just take a break
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>>169206861
>Lorian in his prime

Lorian in his prime could fuck up anything, the only thing that fucked him up was the curse.
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>>169216796
>holy shit this sentence is so ironic it's not even funny
yeah, i liked practically the most aesthetic fight of DaS2 with the best boss theme the most
sue me
>CotSK had very little DS1 fanservice and you coincidentally didn't mention that one.
i didn't mention it cause it was shit
>>169216874
you might want to read the reply chain again
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>>169208391

And yet he's the only one of Gwyn's kids to rule in succession before it went to shit.
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>>169217214
>aesthetic fight

Ugh god holy shit dude go listen to lo-fi hiphop mix tapes on youtube or something jesus
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>>169207510
>find a secret summon sign in a hidden area before fighting the Demon Prince
>first phase nothing happens
>second phase, as soon as the Prince lights up and rises again, a golden portal opens in the ceiling and a giant Lorian just outright plunges from the sky on top of it like an unholy cross between the Dancer's and Artorias' introductions
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>>169217385
not an argument
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>>169215818
>>169215642

DS3 is the best... if you don't include Bloodborne.
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>>169217214
>random chanting
>good theme

You can shit on sunken all you want but gank squad is the best and one of the only good boss themes in the game.
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>>169217467
Hate to be that guy, but apparently you can summon Gael just before the demon boss fight, so it's unlikely that Lorian can step in.
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>>169206861
>why is he a cripple?
Pelvis shattered from all the buttfucking.
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>>169217467
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>>169215446
AY YO HOL UP
*shits from mouthass*
HOL UP
*coughs up fireball*
SO YOU BE SAYING
*dies and turns to a tree*
WE WUZ DRAGONZ
*hits u with an attack that landed approximately 2.3 billion lightyears away*
AND SHIT
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>>169214920
ancient wyvern was intended to be something different for a change. A fun little set piece
ancient dragon was yet another awfully designed and boring DS2 boss
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>>169217661
you must only like one or two songs out of the entire souls series if you don't have a taste for choirwork
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>>169216268
Shit-Ass Dead Dude... Know'st thou of Hell Fuck Castle, high in the mountains...? (laughter) It was once the domain of King Big Sad Guy, who did the Flame Thing.. Legend tells of the castle's steward, the great and terrible HorseDog, but who is to say if it still roams the halls... (solid minute of laughter) Oh, how silly of me; but of course, a new arrival in Drangranthric wouldst know not such tales... One such as thee... wouldst be better suited to sharpen the blades of the dreaded wraith of Why'd They Put Anorher FUCKIN SWAMP LEVEL Marsh..... Armor Type of Dude. That is... ifst thoust canst livest thatst longst... (five minutes of laughter; unskippable)
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>>169215446
I thought it wasn't real, fabricated by Aldia
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What the fuck just happened! I did not know you could survive that fall holy shit I am so confused.
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>>169215446
Because the Giant Soul is a key item to make defeating Vendrick actually take a reasonable length of time.
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>>169218238
Bad choirwork.
Some themes like Nito, or Aldia make good use of the parts with choir.
Alonne's is needlessly trying to sound epic just by chanting louder and louder
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>>169218385
you absolutely can survive that fall, though I've never done it without silvercat

neat
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>>169218480
holy shit you are completely tonedeaf if you think Alonne's is all about the choir
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>>169218480
>Alonne's is needlessly trying to sound epic just by chanting louder and louder
the chanting is balanced out by the more powerful violin notes that come along with it
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>>169218385
link wont work for me fampai
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>>169218559
I'm saying Alonne has a bad choir which makes the track bad, not that it's all about the choir.
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>>169218559
>>169218645

Now, now, friends. He's probably only played on console with his flatscreen's shitty speakers. Of course he's going to say the music's shit; this just means you can disregard his opinion.
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>>169218419
That doesn't explain why he drops it
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>>169218869
Oh.
That's because it's not actually a real dragon.
It's a fake construct, powered by the soul of a giant, created by Aldia. Shalquoir hints at it when it mentions that in the Dragon Shrine there is "a massive, powerful, ancient creature... or something playing the part, at least"
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>>169218861
Stop trying to summon him
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>>169218869
Because lore. The Ancient Dragon is neither ancient nor a dragon. It's something Aldia created as a facsimile of one, probably by ripping out giants' souls and twisting them through unspeakable means.
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>>169218869
because he's a fraud. A fake.

or did you miss the dragon skeleton in Aldia's, along with the mutated Giant corpses, and the Dragon Acolytes?

When the petrified Dragon was discovered in Tseldora, Aldia set about reviving it, and he succeeded. he used a Giant Soul to revive the Ancient Dragon, who's soul you had already obtained at the dawn of the age of fire from it's corpse, using the Ashen Mist heart that he gives you
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starting a new dex build and was wondering if any one would mind being so kinda and to drop me some fashion I'm looking for the dancers set or ornstein set also a chaos blade if anyone isn't using it I know this is a big requests but yeah carpe diem
I'll send you pictures of my girlfriend or something if you want or do your hw
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>>169218385

Looks like you rolled just in time to iframe the fall damage.
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>>169218869
>>169218994
>>169219079
>>169219101
to add to this, this is also where the Drakes in DaS2 come from. Both Dragons and Drakes are an extinct species in 2. Aldia, through his experiments, both revived/recreated a fucking Dragon, and brought back Drakes.
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>>169219124
I'm heating up my teapot
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>>169218994
>>169219079
>>169219101
>>169219239
guys, i know. I was just pointing out the juice of anon's question
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Does anyone else think the Ringed City will end with more questions than answers?
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>>169218861
Haha, fuck you PCuck, a good screen will always sound better than your overpriced speakers
Not that you would know good music if you could listen to it
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Anyone here on PC willing to help someone with collecting sunlight medals in DS1?
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>>169219608
Undoubtedly. The real question is whether it will end with a new ending to the game.
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>>169219124
I'm on console btw
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>>169219608
Of course it will, the hope is that it answers the right questions before creating new ones
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>>169219608
What do you think will happen? We'll be left with enough loose ends to keep us going for a good while with lore arguments
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>>169219124
Send those girlfriend pics over.

>>169219705
It's faster to farm them with bugs, but what SL?
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>>169219729

>Give the Dark Soul to the painter and move to a new unfucked universe with the firekeeper
>Burn the Dark Soul at the Kiln of the First Flame just to see what happens
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What ideal SL should I stop at in DS3? I have a good plan, but it puts me at 120. Projected plan is as such:
Vigor 35
Attunement 6
Endurance 40
Vitality 35
Strength 50
Dexterity 10
Intelligence 8
Faith 9
Luck 11

Running a FUGS/Black Knight Shield build, with Covetous Silver Serpent Ring, Havel's, Ring of Favor, and Chloranthy
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>>169219705
what Soul level?

I dont remember, can you drop sunlight medals? i might have a few to spare
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>>169219705
Yeah, sure. Add me on steam, Enigne Taehc
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>>169219807
I like how you can say you're on console since no one has an xbone.
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>>169219862

Bingo.
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>>169219807
I've got all of that stuff if you're on playstation
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>>169219991
LOl ditto never thought of that
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>>169219826
Im trying to keep it low as possible but im 51.
Demon Ruins
basic NG
I wasnt expecting a response so fast, I still have to get home first
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>>169220110
Yes I'm on PlayStation I'm at the high wall of Lothric bonfire. My matchmaking code will be dsgfun
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>>169220221
ah, Im a bit too high i think.

sorry friend
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>>169220221
Just post it when you're around then, I'll give a (you) if I can
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>>169220442
Okay sign's down.
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>>169220804
Thanks anon feel free to drop anything you think I should try
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>>169218385
That bridge is my favourite fighting place in the game.
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>>169219370
these just keep on getting more and more ridiculous.
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>>169220928
Ye no problem

>>169221050
I know me too! especially invading 'cause of all the millions of skeletons that spawn to fight with you. I fucking love skeletons
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I never realized Cathedral Knight gauntlets were so fashionable

Post fashion
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>>169219889
Also, will replace Silver Serpent Ring with Saint's Ring or Deep Ring for attunement of Carthus Flame Arc. May bump Int and Faith up to 10, take 3 out of Vigor for this to work
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Whoever just encased me and dropped the 10 embers thanks a lot you guys are great
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>>169216874
>>169216095
>>169212696

It never ends, the constant howling of monkeys
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>>169220502
lay off the pot, junkie. you never now if your last injection will be your last one
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>>169222271
Has anyone ever tried THC intravenously?

I'm pretty sure it sounds like something someone would do. I mean, I wouldn't I started feeling tingly after I wrote the word "Intravenously"
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>>169223058
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/20pirc/iving_thc/
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>>169220789
alright im home and waiting at the worm bonfire.
Whats your name so i can summon you?
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>>169221568
Ds1 is a buggy halfassed pieces of shit game.
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Cave of the Dead is such a more enjoyable area than Iron Passage, holy hell
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>>169223646
The boss at the end is infinitely worse though
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>>169224021
>tfw I liked ganksquad

it was intense.
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>>169224021
Maybe it's because it isn't my first time playing the game anymore, but Blue Smelter and the Passage gave me so much trouble, this is practically heaven by comparison. As far as NPC group fights go, thankfully this wasn't the worst I've ever seen.
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>>169198484
Cons:

Actually 1000 years old but looks 2000. Face and body like beef jerky. Dry pussy. Can go insane and try to kill you at any moment. Leader of freaky cult. Freaky cult can go insane and try to kill you at any moment. Turns you into beef jerky. You can go insane and try to kill her at any moment. Works for the long jew.
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>armor dyes
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>>169219889
>Running a FUGS
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>>169224545
>blue lothric knight set
>blue alva chest
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How come there's never been any sort of Demon's Souls revival?

There's a DaS event that happens every year, and a DaS2 event starting this weekend, how about a Demon's Souls revival event?
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>>169224545
>only ever see all black edgelords or all white turbofag sets with the occasional all brown muh realism set
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>>169200628
>Aside from pretty obviously manipulating you, sure.
Considering that you're an immortal super zombie and the world itself is already on it's last leg, what could she possibly be manipulating us towards? There is no long con with Kaathe if that's what you're getting at, he has nothing to gain from any of this.
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>>169224869
>The toothy jew
>Trustworthy
Oolacile and New Londo were just pranks bro
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>>169224728
The people who do these things are just dudes that post an infographic to reddit.

you can do it anon.
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>>169218253
10/10 - GameSpot
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so heres a question for CE wizards.

is there a way to un-softban yourself in DaS2? (without using family sharing I mean) Through CE? some flag or something?
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>>169224728

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5RpGU0FxM
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>>169223331
Rip, i guess that anon didnt come back.
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>>169224479
>Actually 1000 years old but looks 2000.
The protagonist is potentially even older.

>Face and body like beef jerky. Dry pussy.
Not true, Yuria is not hollowed, same as Friede.

>Can go insane and try to kill you at any moment.
She doesn't do that, even if you foil her plans, she only defends herself if you try to forcibly take darkdrift from her.

>Leader of freaky cult. Freaky cult can go insane and try to kill you at any moment.
There is nothing that would suggest they would even consider trying to kill you, once you mantle yourself as their god.

>Turns you into beef jerky. You can go insane and try to kill her at any moment. Works for the long jew.
You dying like a bitch turns you into beef jerky, and it wasn't Yuria who told you to greedily tap into the power of your undeath, you brought it unto yourself, which she deems virtuous and a mark of a strong leader, and even then she offers you a ring that reverses it and items that heal it.
Kaathe did not try to set the chosen undead on fire, he simply told him the side of the story no one else would, how the CU proceeded from there is his prerogative.
And even then Kaathe probably told Yuria the exact same thing, but she decided to follow a different path from Kaathe's original machinations, which proves that she isn't a "snake-worshipping harlot" but an individual with a different take on the world, same as the ashen one, who decides to walk his own path.

The only difference is, she will be there at the end to serve you.
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Why the fuck is Ludleth so fucking underappreciated when discussing lore. Hes the fucking coolest bro ever, and supports you all the way to the fucking end.
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>>169225043
Still no reason to think Kaathe is evil, only that humans are stupid and keep fucking with The Dark
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>>169225290
Dear fucking god the nerds who make these vids.

It was unbearable enough before he started narrating jesus UNHOLY christ FUCK
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>>169225043
Drink deep from the well of knowledge and power and see how your character corrupts it.

It's now Kaathe's fault most everyone he shared the truth with used it to fuck everyone else over, it's only human to do so...
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>>169225368
Because he is so small, so easily forgotten
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>>169225346
Holy fuck you are the worst Kaathe shill

Get out of Lothric you fucking faggot
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>>169225368
Ludleth is up there in bro ranking.

I mean the official bro ranking of DS3 is:

Top bro tier:
Siegward
Ludleth
Giant Bowman

Not a bro tier:
Everyone else

Die in a fire you fucking faggot tier:
Patches
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>>169224334
Not him but you are right, gank squad is a lot easier. But I still think it's the shittier boss. Cool Ranch was a ripoff of at least a decent boss in vanilla, and actually changed it's movesets a bit and made it look different. Gank squad is literally just 3 NPC's in a room. It's fucking unacceptable that FROM expected people to pay money for that.
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>>169225247
Yes, but it's a huge pain in the ass and resets each loading screen. What you end up doing is changing what Steam ID your game is sending the matchmaking server when it's checking your ID to see if you're banned.
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>>169223331
Sorry, I was out for a while. Still here?
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>>169226142
>wanting to make Patches a Lord of Cinder
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
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>>169225765
Wrong, I am a Yuria shill, not Kaathe shill.

But you're retarded enough to think it's the same thing. It isn't.
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>>169225650
Gee.. everyone he shared "knowledge" with turned out to have their entire civilization fucked over and turned into bobbleheads or nigwraiths.

Meanwhile, the gods:

-saved mankind from the dragons
-created all of civilization
-protect people from muhdickwraiths (darkmoon blades)
-have big boobs
-sacrifice themselves so that the sun doesn't go out and everyone has to live in the cold and the dark (we see this firsthand in ds3 what happens: its not fun, everyone who isn't undead pretty much just dies off)
-in general be pretty bro

Yet they are the bad guys according to the mysterious jew we find in the dark souls equivalent of hell.

On a total side note: why does Nito have a soul of fire, but his domain is literally darker than the abyss?

On another side note: why do we even go around killing people if we are aiming foe the dark ending? It just makes us seem like murder-happy jerks.
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>>169226142
>No Greirat

He dies for you.

He literally dies for you.

Your list is shit.
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>>169226287
yeah
waiting at worm bonfire.
Name?
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>>169225346
She's wearing the anti bacon ring. It's like makeup, under it she's fucking ugly.

If you use CE, you actually see the ring equipped on her which is cool
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>>169226298
Oh god, die in a fire really does have different meaning.

Imagine soul of cinder that just waited near the cliff and kicked anyone who tried to link the fire down. And did extra damage against clerics

>"Oh you want to link the fire, sure go on right ahead, the bonfire is right there near this cliff, don't worry I'll show you how it's done."
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>>169220502
Paladin set deserves better!
Slut gear comes back but the most aesthetic armor about doesn't fuckin from
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>>169226781
Greirat wanted to die ever since he found out about his fiancee. His deathwish had nothing to do with you really
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>>169226808
unx

Still need to open the game and walk, give me 5 mins or so
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>>169226781
What he's on the top tier...

Wait fuck, I must have erased it accidentally, I wrote him on the top tier.
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>>169226781
He died for himself doing what he wanted to do.
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>>169226924
I thought it was his sister.

>>169226835
Well, you're ugly too, besides, she can reverse it easilly. Just like you.
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>>169226769
>why does Nito have a soul of fire, but his domain is literally darker than the abyss?
Because Death is still a direct consequence of Fire. Remember, even the Dark Soul is a small bright flame when the Pygmy first finds it. The fact that Nito prefers the darkness doesn't have much to do with it.

In fact, considering the Milfanito dialogue in Dark Souls 2, I'm pretty sure it's Nito's attempt at dealing with the waning of Fire and the ever more powerful Dark Soul, similarly to how the Witch tried to deal with it by creating a new Flame and Gwyn by setting himself as fuel
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>>169227224
>>I thought it was his sister.
>Giving an engagement ring to your sister
Wicked Londoran detected
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>>169227435
It doesn't have to be an engagement ring. It's a Blue Tearstone Ring, it could very well simply be him giving it to someone he wished to keep safe
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>>169226924
>>169227213
>I consider myself your friend.
>[Send him to pillage]
>Thank you, for placing your trust in me.
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>>169227435
It's not necessarily an engagement ring, it could be something from their past to let her know he's okay or a gift he'd promised before he left the settlement but can't deliver personally.
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>>169227435
I am not actually well knowlegeable about this subject.

But where does it say blue tearstone ring is an engagement ring?

Where does it say Greirat meant it as an engagement ring?

Where does Greirat actually say Loretta is his fiancée?
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>>169227709
>Thanks bro I really wanted to go on this suicide mission
>Totally has nothing to do with my fiancee
>Christ, she was already dead
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>>169227851
>I don't want to die a petty rat
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>>169227851
>she was already dead
>I-I'm not surprised, though. Hmm, almost a relief, really.
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>>169227772
Read between the very bold font lines.

He gives her a ring. He pretends not to care when she dies. He curls up into a ball and isnm in shock next time you talk. He goes on increasingly dangerous missions, even after near calls.
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>>169227031
Thanks for the medals dude.
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>>169227931
>Heavens... she was already dead
>You learnt the curl up in foetal position gesture
Obviously he got over it quick and isnt hiding anythin
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>>169202707
Holy shit.
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>>169228000
It could be his mother too.

His dialogue in the cell if he dies or is it if he kills you is:

>Forgive me, mother…
>Forgive me, dear…

We really don't know what Loretta is to him, other than "Old woman" We just don't know.
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>>169228221
>Mother
Give me a break. He's basically stockpile thomas
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>>169228159
Enjoy
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>>169227772
Darkmoon is the true marriage ring
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>>169227435
Making a lot~ of assumptions here.
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>>169227709
>But I don't want to sit around and die a petty rat.
>I lived a petty rat, but would rather not die as one.
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>>169228406
Its pretty obvious
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I'm enjoying DS2 but the progression is kinda bonkers. I've got a +8 weapon and multiple titanite slabs whilst being SL101. Despite the fact that I've only beated old iron king and lost sinner out of the 4 great souls. I didn't try and grind either, just popped them souls and leveled up.

In other news, hexes are fun. Specifically dark blade. I'm still using the longsword though. Are any of the other longswords superior to it?
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>>169228538
In the same way Solaire being Gwyn's firstborn is pretty obvious.
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>>169228538
Clearly it fucking isn't.
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>>169228684
Nameless king is a stealth retcon.

They needed the story for a new boss so just axed all the buildup they put in towards Solaire and added in some completely unforshadowed random guy.

Also, he gives medals to his followers for killing him. Explain that.
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>>169216276
yeah, I tried following their advice but it turns out I can't even use the fucking circlet in the first place
what can I do? both my invasions and summons/attempts to get summoned are constantly getting timed out
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>>169228734
Clearly not to you.

After all, he mentions his mother, and young lovers don't have mothers therefore he must have given the ring to his mother and lost his will to live when she died.
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>>169228538
that being an engagement ring is the stupidest fucking garbage i've ever heard you wacked out kiddo

that never even crossed my mind

what an autistic assumption

do you really think with everything going on in the undead settlement he's going to send you to give her an "engagement ring" like some dumbass romantic girl cartoon

he wanted to keep her safe most likely, it is the BLUE TEARSTONE RING afterall

hello earth to anon
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>>169229214
He would have given her a better ring then because blue tearstone ring is total jank when it comes to protection
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>>169228162
Some grief is to be expected, that doesn't mean he's suicidal.

>>169228506
>I don't want to sit around and die
>I ... would rather not die
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>>169228924
Anon, this is getting silly.

>Also, he gives medals to his followers for killing him. Explain that.
You also continue to receive medals long after he's dead. He doesn't go around each individual player's world whenever they help someone kill a boss and personally hands them a golden token
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>>169229303
he is a petty thief its the best he's got, he doesnt get to go around being a heroic adventurer like the goddamn unkindled taking dope ass defensive rings from demons and shit
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>>169229308
>People don't have conflicted emotions
>People will just flat out tell you when they are suicidal
You have no ability to detect any character motivation unless it hits you in the face or is explicitly stated
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>>169229440
He has infinite firebombs and estocs. He could sell them and buy a life ring from the shrine handmaiden.
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>>169229448
>People don't have conflicted emotions
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>>169229064
>After all, he mentions all this shit.

WHERE?

I admit I don't know much about Greirat and especially who Loretta is, but I am starting to believe you're pulling all of this deep from your ass. Start giving sources or admit you don't fucking know any better than the rest of us, you irritating little shit.
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>>169229576
remember when you realized how gay and retarded you were and switched to trollin
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>>169229308
It's not that he doesn't want to die, it's that he doesn't want to die a rat
And if you send him out then he dies trying to help you, his friend, thus fulfilling his wish
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>>169228924
>Nameless king is a stealth retcon.
There are lorefags this dellusional.
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>>169229665
>he wants to give a ring to someone
>finds out they are dead
>i...it's o... okay...
>later on curls up in a ball later and repeats the same words
>goes on death missions thereafter
Its.
Obvious.

Sometimes characters will not just outright state their every thought. Its a narrative device called subtlety.
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>>169229214
>do you really think with everything going on in the undead settlement he's going to send you to give her an "engagement ring" like some dumbass romantic girl cartoon

Why doesn't he go himself? You opened the cage, what the fuck is stopping him.

Unless it's not an engagement ring, and he just want to cut someone off.
>>
GUYS
The undead curse is a big problem
Right guys?
So
Let's just like
*hits blunt*
Take all the undead dudes
...
And send em...
To space
BOOM Problem solved.
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>>169229864
NO IT FUCKING ISN'T.

IT COULD'VE BEEN ANYONE CLOSE TO HIM, HIS MOTHER, HIS SISTER OR I DON'T KNOW ANYONE.

You're pulling ALL OF THIS from your ass, ALSO:
>he mentions his mother, and young lovers don't have mothers

HE SAYS NOTHING OF THE SORT.

You got NOTHING, less than nothing, because YOU have the gall to claim you know better, when you know fuck all.
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>>169229692
I'm responding with the same quality arguments I'm getting.

>>169229814
Show me any buildup towards being a dragonfucker in ds1 or ds2. Foreshadowing: 0.

Also, he was supposed to be a dunce who dropped the annals of history and the wind blew it away. Not some edgy "I'm forging my own path.. dad!" fag who betrayed his family.
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>>169228924
Solaire was never supposed to be the firstborn, being anything other than a badass normal (like the chosen undead) devalues his entire story

But Nameless being the firstborn is equally stupid
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>>169230009
woah holy shit dude haha
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>>169230009
Calm down fag, you've got nothing since its not normal to give engagement rings to your momma. Except maybe wherever you live.
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>>169230176
You're still retarded enough to make the leap that it is an engagement ring, when there is literally no proof for your claim.

Give us a single credible source to your claims or shut the fuck up, you stupid faggot.
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>>169230068
>Solaire was never supposed to be the firstborn, being anything other than a badass normal (like the chosen undead) devalues his entire story
Not really.

>stripped of lord soul
>become human
>godlike willpower alone keeps him going
>becomes the equal of the gods once more by determination alone
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>>169228924
Solaire was a normal person who made his world through the same fucked world as the player with his own will and strength, that's why he's cool
Stop tarnishing his legacy
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>>169229804
>he dies trying to help you
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>>169230068

i think nameless king is about the best we could expect of the firstborn being depicted at all. it might've been better to just leave him aside, but they didn't do that.
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>>169230317
Andre was planned to be the firstborn but they scrapped it and left the game with no firstborn.

Solaire is supposed to be a crazy but benevolent guy to contrast with the world that goes by because he's persistant as fuck, he's like another more capable chosen undead.
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>>169230334
Exactly, I'm glad you agree
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>>169230317
>stripped of lord soul
>become human

Gods are hollows with special souls and are by nature incompatible with the dark soul, which is why dark scared them so much and why Arty ate shit to it. Strip a god of his lord soul and he becomes a hollow, not a human.
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>>169230709
>Andre was planned to be the firstborn but they scrapped it

lol such wild speculation stated as fact
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>>169196990
Is it 15 dex and sage ring (base) for max casting speed? Or is it 20? (for a sorcerer)
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I'm glad none of my friends are dead as long as I ignore them
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>>169230651
Could I ask you why, Anon?
Personally I found the way they handled the Firstborn thread of the story very competent, but I could never understand people who rebel against it as anything but some misguided sense that everything DaS did lorewise is a sacred cow that should never be touched.
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>>169230846
20. Sage ring adds 30 virtual dex. Limit for cast speed is 50.
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>>169230068
Your a fucking idiot. Why do you think its wrong?
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>>169230975
you can touch sacred cows you just cant eat them
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>>169230752
Yes Anon, truly it is auspicious that we can both agree that Greirat was not suicidal and that he died for you on a mission that he expected to come back from. Surely stories of our agreeability will echo for hours to come.
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>>169230953
I always found this funny, as well

literally everyone dies if you talk to them
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>>169230953
Shit I'm doing this next NG+ cycle
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>they made the head and the neck of the dragon parts of different segments of the wall
Now this is just shoddy craftsmanship
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>>169230709
>>169230319
I read somewhere that Miyazaki also stated that if you save Solaire from the sunlight maggot, Solaire would go light the kiln in his own world.

But dont take my word for it, as I havent bothered looking up for the source

I still in the end like Solaire way more just as a regular undead, who has tremendous willpower and headstrong as fuck.

Ffs you can even summon the guy for the Gwyn fight. Hes argueably almost as strong as the Chosen Undead
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>>169231869
I've heard that too but I've never once seen a source for it, I think it's just a rumor.
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>>169231869
don't you think it can be assumed that he did? since the last time you see him is summoning him for gwyn, and every other time youve summoned him was for bossfights that he was going through at the same time in his own world.
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>>169231657
Maybe it's because the only time the wall is to be opened is when someone comes to kill the dragon?
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>>169232210
Huh, that's not a bad reason. DEEPEST LORE indeed
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>>169232140
Same it wouldnt make sense anyways lorewise, as his world is still the same as ours and the CU is the one to link the fire.
>>169232141
Nah, lorewise it wouldnt make sense. But I do think he survies with you, and possibly helps the CU with Gwyn, since he can be summoned. What he does after I dont know. I like to think that Solaire is one of those undeads who got a "happy" ending
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>>169228960
seems like this is affecting undead matches as well as regular pvp
man I'm really stumped-- can't find anything that assists me on google either
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>>169232768
But anon, relations shift and obscure. Lautrec was also an NPC in our world, but we invaded his world after he killed the firekeeper. Are all worlds supposed to be affected once the fire is linked? Or just the one where it was linked .
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>>169215203
Yes. Weebs are the ones who balance the game after all.
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>>169233320
>actual japanese devs
>weebs
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>>169233452
>Being this autistic
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>>169233102
Im pretty sure its all of the worlds. The whole meaning of DaS3 would be kinda lame if you could just jump into another persons world when "your" flame died.
It doesnt make sense if theres multiple worlds. I think its one of those things they made up in the first game, but kinda gets rectonned later on by the lore of the other games.

it made sense when DaS was a standalone game, but now the DaS2 and Das3 it doesnt make sense for there to be more worlds.
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>>169231869
Time is convoluted.

It's entirely possible the series is going with old bethesda's warp in the west, where every single outcome is canonical at the same time.
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>>169233573
>Not knowing what weeb means
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>>169233681
So then

>>169231869
This rumor is dumb and silly
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>>169223563
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. However this thread mostly has ds3 and ds2 fanboys at each other's throats.
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>>169233681
But wait 'cause

I thought every 'player' was in a different world. and that's why the soul of cinder borrows all the gameplay elements of different character builds.
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>tfw offline mode
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>>169233747
Welcome to 4chan, the place where the rules are made up and definitions don't matter.
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>>169233714
>>169233948
The rumor was very much from the first game, so yeah its kinda silly to think of now.
But still man, Solaire had a happy ending most likely. He got to THE END, as the only one besides the CU.

>>169233714
I havent played that game but yeah time is convoluted. I thought Solaire might link the fire, in the very same place, but somewhere later or earlier in the timeline.

>>169234198
No, the Soul of Cinder (from what I gathered and a lot of others) is an entity of everyone who has linked the fire over the many hundreds/thousands of years. He doesnt borrow, but is a fusion of everyone who has ever linked the fire.
Tbh lads, I dont know if the "multiverse" thing holds up anymore. It did in DaS1, but imo it doesn't hold up anymore. From my understanding and perspective, there is only ONE world, but time is convoluted in that world, so you can interract with the past and future.
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>come back for the DLC for the first time, right now
>get to the part where I have to wait for loading zones, and jump off a cliff 10 times just to get the dark sigil to max
I feel like there's a lot of little stupid exact things you need to do to not miss out on a run in this game.
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>>169228556
>Are any of the other longswords superior to it?
I think Fume Straight Sword has to be better for a hexer build but I'm not 100% sure.
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>>169228924
>>169230840
>>169230709

Epicnamebro, the chief loreguy and the Vaati before Vaati said the whole Andre was supposed to be the firstborn before they axed that storyline and that motherfucker will always check his sources bedore saying shit. He also worked with the guide, talked to Memezacki and got inside information on stuff he was under an NDA for and he was adamantly opposed to the idea of Solaire being the firstborn.
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In the last run i did for DS3, since i already had all the items you could get from their sidequests i just left all the NPCs alive in the Firelink Shrine by not talking to them so the sidequest cant progress, but i cant do this with Siegward, i think the ending of his quest is so good even if he dies, one of the few that actually accomplishes his goal without ending mad.
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>>169234518
I usually kill vordt, get Yoel back to firelink and get a dark sigil, then attempt the dancer. Whilst it takes a while, I usually can kill her after which point I'll be well hollowed.
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I don't get why/how supposedly undead people are killed for good by the player's hand
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>>169234507
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>>169234992
how come when you're hollowed you still have complete control over your actions and choices
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>>169234992
Not all of them die for good.

A lot of them aren't undead in the same sense as the main character is, in that they're not linked to a certain destiny.

Andre, the shrine maiden and the firekeeper all come back when killed.
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>>169234992
Game mechanics you big dingus.
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>>169234992
Unless you're talking about 3, they probably just respawn and fuck off cause no one wants to be around a murderous lunatic, if you really need an in world explanation.
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I got a really minor theory here, but I thought I would post it anyways:

Velka, Goddess of Sin moonlights as Caitha, Goddess of Tears

When you first meet Gael at the Cathedral of the deep he is praying to a statue of crying woman that is most likely Caitha:
>Ahh, merciful goddess, mother of the Forlorn, who have no place to call their own...

But the only goddess that has any connection with the painted world is velka as seen with the crow demons in DaS I. Its also somewhat implied that the Forlorn corvians of the painted world may be descended from the crow demons.

Finally, the the description of Caitha's Chime in DaS II reads:
>Caitha, the goddess of tears, is known as a compassionate being that is with us in times of tragedy, but some believe that she is a demoness that guides us toward misfortune.

Emphasis on the word "demonness".
Finally, Caitha's Chime in DaS 3 reads:
>Rare even amongst Carim clerics. Affected by intelligence, a rare thing for miracle catalysts, and also agreeable with miracles that lean towards the Dark. Its existence is concealed in the name of the Archbishop, as it is anathema.

You know what other miracle catalyst scales with intelligence?
Velka's Talisman

Thoughts? Opinions?
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Best waifu sets/builds?
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So is the lore for this guy really just:

>was in love with someone who didn't love him back
>ate a lot
>turned into jabbar the hut

I'm assuming the use of the word demon is more of a descriptive term than a title, since demons in dark souls come from the chaos and humans are completely different.
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>>169235947
Sorcerer hood with female leather armor looks pretty good.
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>>169235947
Brass pyro.

BE THE WAIFUKEEPER
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>>169235947
Full cathedral knight set
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>>169235873
Vaati did a video on that not so long ago, with exactly the same topic.

Its one of his AoA videos.
Go check it out.
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>>169235873
Well as far as anon-made theories go that has a lot more supporting evidence than most, although most of it seems to rely on the deity Gael prays to being Caitha.

Also, Caitha's Chime scaling with Intelligence is more of a result of it being "agreeable towards the Dark", which scales off both elements. Might just be coincidental, since there's nothing particularly linking Velka herself to the Dark.

As far as Gael's prayer, I honestly thought it was directed towards Gwynevere/The Queen of Lothric, considering both are associated with those that have no one to care for them, with an old interview with Miyazaki even talking about how he envisioned Gwynevere first of all as this divine motherly caretaker.

>>169236015
Dark Souls 2 is not very careful with its application of the word "Demon". See the Demon of Song, for instance.
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>you can now hold down the casting button, delaying the release of the spell
Did I just fix magic? It would at least make it easier to time roll-catching and trip up your opponent's timing with rolls
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>>169235947
Some chest armor that goes about halfway down the thigh paired with Slave Knight Leggings for short skirt and thigh highs. Something like Leather Armor, Herald Armor, or Robes of Prayer.
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>>169236015
anon, ds2 is almost always excluded from lore talk about soulsverse for a reason
they called him a demon to make it sound better, there's like zero ways to connect this guy to Izalith
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>>169236594
no but you made it more interesting.
each spell should have a fullmoveset (rolling r1, charged r2, etc)
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>>169235947
>sets
Anything but slutwear
>builds
Full STR
For either muscle waifu or frail-looking gap-moe waifu
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>>169235947
Full drakeblood
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Has anyone tried not talking to Andre until after you've grabbed his hammer from Untended Graves?
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>tfw faith is melee trading spell class
Why? The best thing about any type of magic is being able to hit enemies from a distance. They even made lightning spears primarily a melee spell.
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>>169237301
Yeah, apparently nothing special happens.
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>>169236367
Well now I just feel silly.
Which video?

>>169236419
I'm pretty sure this is the statue that Gael is praying to, just behind the altar in the cleansing chapel. It could be Gwynevere, but based on Gwynevere's statues, they don't seem to align up.

>since there's nothing particularly linking Velka herself to the Dark
I don't know myself, but someone else pointed out that occult weapons are basically just dark infused weapons or something.
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>>169237301
that would be a massively disappointing waste of time
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>>169236419
>>169236730
Got it thanks.

Unrelated but so DS2 goes out of its way to reference the peaceful nature of the dark. Further lends credibility to the Abyss=Corrupted/Agitated dark idea doesn't it?

Speaking of which, just like the gods and humans were born of the flame and were able to live and flourish as the flame was strong, couldn't the reverse also be true? In an age of dark we may be screwed but there could be other species and sentient creatures who would flourish and build societies and more.

What I'm getting at is it would make sense if the end of fire is the best ending since it allows us to finally accept that our dominion over the world of DS is over just as the ancient dragons were forced to give up control over the world at the dawn of the age of fire.
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>>169237404
I figured as much, I just grabbed it now and was wondering if there was any change.
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>Farming silver knights for concords while darkmooning
>Get summoned into the Aldrich arena
>Every silver knight that I can find is dead
>Eventually spot the host in the area just after Sulyvahn
>Host + red + 2 Aldrichfags
>Everyone's acting strange
>Realize that the Aldrichfags are helping the host gank the red
>Jump in and get the easiest ear ever

Why would Aldrichfags do this?

Have they trolled so much that they've gotten all of their covenant rewards and flipped over to helping hosts to piss off invaders?
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>>169237385
They hate FTH
Just grab the sunlight talisman on your paladin and use the hyper armor casts for sunlight spears
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>>169237459
>peaceful
it's peaceful in the same way as death or nothingness is peaceful, at leas if we're talking about ds1/3
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>>169237385
Infuse the follower's javelin with lightning and try that out.
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Anyone on ps4 willing to drop a wolf ring +2? Wanna get some good poise on my wolf knight.

Pass is dsg
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Does no one summon in Das1 anymore?
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>>169237626
Aldrichfags are scum that turn on each other if they violate the fextralife pvp etiquette.
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>>169237853
I would but I'm just leaving now ;(
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>>169237385
they wanted to emphasize that battle clerics are fighting head-on instead of casting at range
look at nameless king and his combat style

and it's not like faith has no good ranged options, attune gnawing and bleed everything to death
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>>169237407
>that occult weapons are basically just dark infused weapons or something.
That can't be right. Occult weapons are based on an usurpation of the power of Gravelord Nito, which as the first of the dead is particularly dangerous to divine beings. And he himself has never been associated with the Dark Soul, unless you could the Crypt Blacksword doing Dark Damage in Dark Souls 2 [a shaky reasoning at best]
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>>169237407
Why would you feel silly friend? It just means you are good at souls lore, and able to find connection, which arent way far out. Its hard to link points together in lore.
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>demons get an ending with TRC
>dragons, pygmies, even Gwyn's family will get referenced a lot
>NOTHING on Nito as usual aside from Aldritch apparently finding a bit of his power or at least imagining it in his sleep and making a miracle of it
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>>169238235
>>169235873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4AqgHavNE here is the link btw
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>>169237996
Aaah, thanks anyhow.
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>>169238347
Nito's just a big skellie made out of other skellies dude. He's best as a mysterious figure, they shouldn't add needless complexity unto him for no reason.
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>>169238347
>even Gwyn's family
They're adding an entirely new daughter out of thin air.
This is not the sort of reference that is happily welcomed, Anon.
Bestlost still being forgotten annoys me immensely too, yes
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>>169235873
Wait until the final DLC, no fucking way the won't reference Velka at least somehow.
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>>169238565
>out of thin air
We never got actual info about Gwyn's family and having both older and younger pair of children sounds pretty logical given that his younger daughter seems to be connected to moon or even dark powers given that her tiara has a dark gem as opposed to a sunlight tiara of Gwynevere.
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>>169238565
>This is not the sort of reference that is happily welcomed

But it does fit in to the existing narrative surprisingly well. To wit:

>Gwyn gives up his beloved youngest daughter to the pygmies
>raises his lastborn son as a daughter to fill the void left by her absence
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>>169238546
That said, the additions that DS2 brought to the lore regarding him are actually quite tasteful.

Depending on how you read them, they might even make Nito into the most succesful Lord by far when it comes to dealing with the waning of Fire, while retroactively rendering Wolnir's meddlings with the Abyss completely unecessary and stupid.
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>>169238565
>entirely new daughter
Does this mean that the image of a pale young girl in hiding Aldrich got when he was eating Gwyndolin's ass could refer to Gwyn's youngest daughter instead of Priscilla?

Also :
>Gwyndolin
>Gwynewere
>Nameless
>Yorshka

>with Ringed City 5th family member of Gwyn
4
With
The
Hidden
Fifth

And you fuckers doubted me
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If you summon me to play through the entirety of Drangleic Castle for you, you can guarantee I'm going to aggro all 6 ruin sentinels and jump off a cliff. Eat shit and die
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>>169239048
>That said, the additions that DS2 brought to the lore regarding him are actually quite tasteful.
Nah, i consider them absolutely distasteful. Nito's main theme is skeletons and necromancers, not singing whores, edgelord with a dildo that makes sword of Guts look like a kitchen knife and katanas out of ass.
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>>169239127
Yorshka was accepted into the family by Gwyndolin who probably missed his real sisters too much and just wanted someone near him after untold ages of solitude.
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>>169239207
Then why put your summon sign anywhere that isn't near the boss fog? If you put it at the beginning of the castle, of course you're going to get people summoning you to help them through the entire castle, you fucking retard.
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>>169239127
Very doubtful. Gwyndolin was most certainly thinking of either Priscilla or Yorshka, especially considering said reference is found in a Lifehunt miracle, which is Priscilla's signature "thing".

>>169239226
Anon, Nito's thing are Death, and the Dead. The necromancers are Nito's ENEMIES, Pinwheel was sucking the power out of the Gravelord and using it to feed his and his minions' magic.
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>>169239226
>>169239048

While I wouldn't personally completely shit on ds2 nito stuff, the fact that the Nito shit was written out of the item description in ds3 says more than enough about it desu.
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>>169239127
Nah its probably Priscilla or MAYBE Yorshka. You're forgetting the item that description is from, it's the lifehunt scythe miracle.

Nameless King Sun
Gwynevere Sun
Gwyndolin Moon
Youngest Daughter Moon/Dark
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>>169239127
I doubt it, the power of lifehunt is strongly tied to Priscilla, to mention someone else entirely in the description of 3's lifehunt miracle would seem strange. The series has always been vague but outright misdirection would be a step beyond.
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>>169239506
Which item, Anon? I don't recall Nito being referenced at all in the entire damn game.
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>>169239506
Better forgotten than made into an ultra weeb.
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>>169239048
>>169239226
>>169239464
What did DaS2 expand on Nitos lore? Hes my fav lord in DaS

Please tell me
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>>169238235
Your right. I just felt that it was rather silly to be time into something when someone else basically published the same theory.

But going on the Velka is Caitha idea a bit more, I can start to see some interesting parallels:

>The Painted World is born of humanity, the dark soul; The Outside World is born of Fire, light.
>The Paint World dies a violent end by fire; The Outside World dies a quiet end by dark.

It would only make sense then that Velka, hated by the outside world as a goddess of sin, is revered inside the painting as a merciful goddess.

>>169238063
I hate to admit it but your right

>Effigy Shield
>In an ill-fated plot to destroy the very
gods, the followers of the occult once
attempted to steal the power of
Gravelord Nito, the first of the dead.

Fucking Nito man. Hes got to be the most lore irrelevant character despite being a holder of a freaking lord vessel.

>>169238623
Main a minor reference, at best. Velka isn't as important as some people credit her to be.
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>trc dlc
>reach gwyns lastborn
>touch the hard boiled egg
>turn around
>suddenly
>yfw
>THE PURSUER
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>>169234149
There's no such thing as a DaS3 fanboy. You either like DaS1 or DaS2 -- DaS3 does not have enough original content to be enjoyed on its own.
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>>169239680
>Hes got to be the most lore irrelevant character despite being a holder of a freaking lord vessel.
Meanwhille Seathe has entire paragraphs dedicated to him.
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>>169229346
>>169228924
>>169228684
>>169228538
>>169228406
>>169227435
>>169227224
>>169226924
>>169226781
Loretta is his mom you fucking spergs. Kill him in his cage and he literally gives a dialogue line about it. Takes like 6 minutes on a brand new char if you trudge. Fuck off forever, holy shit.
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>>169239674
He magically created at least two humanoid races to watch over the dead
The Fenito are blue skinned people who guard tombs and prevent travellers from bringing in light
The Milfanito are a sort of hive mind of females who calm the spirits of the dead by singing to them
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>>169239690
It would make more sense for Pursuers to attack the city full of hollows.
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>>169239914
This raises an interesting question.
How exactly do the dead fit into a universe where half the population is going insane from their inability to die?
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>>169240129
>tries to get into the ringed city
>gets raped by ringed city knights who move like five times faster and do never-ending SoC-tier combos
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>>169239127
>Does this mean that the image of a pale young girl in hiding Aldrich got when he was eating Gwyndolin's ass could refer to Gwyn's youngest daughter instead of Priscilla?
Who created the invisible bridge to Yorshka anyways?
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>>169239914
>>169239914
Where the fuck is this implied??

Not that I dont believe you, im just curious.
I find it hard to find any lore on DaS2 desu, without having to go through all of the item describtions

>>169239680
Indeed it does make sense anon. Im looking forward to the lore questions and awnsers we will get in the new DLC though. I hope it brings more of the painter into the lore.
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>>169239674
There are two areas in DS2 called the Shrine of Amana and the Undead Crypt, where you can find NPCs called the Milfanito, and the Fenito. The Milfanito are seemingly human maidens that continuously sing to soothe the suffering "of those bound by Death and Dark", and the Fenito are watchers that protect the Undead Crypt from disturbances by outside forces, and hate light.

So basically Nito set up a system to ensure eternal comfort of those under his care [everything dead], and depending on how you interpret the words of the Milfanito you speak with, their singing is also supposed to protect the souls of the dead from the festering influence of Humanity.

Which makes sense when you realize that the Witch of Izalith and Gwyn were primarily focused on reversing the waning of Fire and preventing outbreaks of Dark, with Nito seemingly doing nothing to help. Except the efforts of the Witch and Gwyn are naturally concentrated on the world of the living, to protect LIVING humans, while Nito, as the Lord of the Dead, would obviously be more preoccupied with guaranteeing the protection of THE DEAD.

This idea becomes even more interesting when you realize that Wolnir's fear of the Abyss didn't cease with his own death, and even after he was long dead the Abyss still kept tugging at his soul, trying to consume him, as you see during your boss fight.
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>>169240169

Well, that's probably why Nito fucks off on his lonesone in DS1.

>"Welp, if they can't even die right, I'm just gonna peace out. Wake me when someone figures that shit out."
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Man DS2 really makes me feel for undead.

The chariot is literally just there to torture undead endlessly. Imagine that, feral creatures that are barely sentient being forced to experience pain and death over and over.

Combine that with Lloyds undead hunts, the fact that undead were being sent out to sea to drown and Aldias experiments and you've got a hell of a dark fate.
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>>169240415
>Who created the invisible bridge to Yorshka anyways?
Sully.
He treated her better than anyone else in the city in general.
Wonder why.
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>>169240614
>provide thee succ
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>>169240614
Because her covenant served his purpose.
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>>169240614
>Wonder why.
What? I don't honestly know. Was he looking for a new dancer or something?
oh wait.
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>>169240432
I'm afraid to say it's in the item descriptions. Also the dialogue from Agdayne and the Milfanito.
Also the fact that they're called Fe"nito" and Milfa"nito".
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>>169240129
Is that official artwork?
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bout to attempt pontiff sully for the first time, any tips?
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>>169240850
Parry him
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>>169240850
Dodge towards him, not away from him
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>>169240850

Parry the fucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Wg_NlWiPU
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>>169240775
Aaaah that makes sense then. Thank you anon.

>>169240489
>>169239048
What do you mean Wolnir medled with abyss? Didn't he just get consumed by it, and became a big skelly lord?
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>>169240850
He and Gwyn share a common weakness.
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Which one of you fuckers is fred?
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Was Sully naturally an asshole or just corrupted by profaned flame?
Given that all sorcery he created can be used for combat i doubt he was a kind person before his power trip.
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>>169240828
Fan art most likely
>tfw Boromir the Eagle will not carry you into battle in your full suit of armor
>can't float in a cool way like the Pursuer
Imagine how it would be if you could invade as the Pursuer.
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>>169240938
Wolnir meddled with the Abyss somehow, that much we know. Wether it was him attempting to harness its power or something of the sort, we're not quite sure. But the entire elaborate setup with his skull cup and his binding armlets are his attempts at staving off being consumed by the Abyss after death.

>>169241009
He left a peaceful world where those that have no place flock to because he wasn't into that sort of hippie nonsense.
He has always been a complete bastard.
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>>169240828
no
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>>169241009

>is born into a kind and gentle world
>has "little use" for that

Yeah, he was a psychopath even before he left the painting.
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>>169241009
Could be self defence since he was a traveller. Plus being raised in the painted world, the home for those without anywhere else to go means he'd be surrounded with people who had to go rough for a while and needed to be able to defend themselves.

The only completely non violent sorceries I can think of are the oolacile ones. Even stuff like spook is used by assassins.
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>>169241009
He wasn't "consumed" by the profane flame like everyone else who came into contact with it.
He was inspired by it.
Thats kind of mess up.

>>169240489
I never knew how much of a bro Nito was.
Or how much interesting lore he actually has.
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>>169237385
>tfw andre doesn't have special dialogue if you +10 the blacksmith Hammer
>Ye tryin to replace me? If ye wanted to learn how to smith, shoulda asked!" (chuckle)
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Parry him
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>>169241487
>Andre moves his chair slightly or goes to chill out with the Fire Keeper
>can now use his forge for no soul cost

That's a big thing I really liked about Hunter's Dream-it felt like you really are a Hunter who has his own workshop.
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>>169241009
>profaned flame
Was it the profane flame that burned down Yhorm's capital or was it him linking the fire?
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>>169242156
>his own workshop
>implying it belongs to you
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>>169242349
It was him trying out Blair's Death Rain sauces for the Taco Tuesday he was hosting.
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Any tips for Orphan of Kos?
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>>169241487
just realized I replied to the wrong person
>>169237301
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>>169242513
Parry him
wait
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>>169242507
>Blair's Death Rain
KEK
Blair's Death sauce gave me hemorroids
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>>169241230
I will now be disappointed that we will not fight an army of Pursuers, each one using a different type of weapon.
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>>169242349
Both. When Yhorm linked the fire, it caused the Profane Flame to surge, and, it being a kind of abyssal fire, sought out and burned every human in the Capital rather than torched the whole thing.
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>>169239896
>Loretta is his mom

OK.
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>>169243000
Considering fighting just two of the things in Drangleic Castle was the most hellish experience I've had in this franchise, I'm not at all disappointed
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Anyone interested in helping me with the Twin Princes in NG++? You'll likely be scaled down.

PC
PW: dsg
signs by the boss door if you're interested.
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>>169235873
So why the fuck would Gael go to the Cathedral of the Deep to pray to Velka?
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>>169243618
Remember that the Cathedral of the Deep used to be just a regular Way of White cathedral.

I have no idea why he'd go there to pray to ANYONE, but hell, the man is half-insane by the time you meet him.
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>>169242513
I have been rapes by Orphan for a few days now.
Parrying him kinda works but his timings are weird.

My strats outside of parrying are :
>bait the jump attack and punish it with an r2-r1
>roll towards and to the side of him when he's doing the low blow
>when he's spinning stay the fuck away
>fight unlocked because you want to be able to roll in ANY direction

I've got the dirst part under control but phase 2 is a bitch
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>>169243820
>Remember that the Cathedral of the Deep used to be just a regular Way of White cathedral.
Source. And not "I saw it being posted a bunch around here," link to an item description or a developer interview.
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>>169244012
Supposedly there's some fucked up bug where the blood rapture and oeden writhe runes give you back full health and bullets when you parry him in phase 1. After that, go nuts with the gat I guess, because parrying phase 2 is a waste of effort.
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>>169244197
Here you go Anon, fresh off the press
>Holy Garb worn by an Archdeacon of the Cathedral of the Deep.
>A sign of the Way of White's highest rank.
>Of the three Archdeacons of the Deep, one stood over Aldrich's casket, with hope that he would return one day.

http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/armor:archdeacon-holy-garb
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>>169244362
That doesn't imply the cathedral was a way of white cathedral, that implies one of the Archdeacons came from the Way of White.

Pretty sure the Way of White wouldn't build a cathedral full of statues of vomiting illithids.
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>>169196990
Fight club at oolacile township. Put down ur signs niggas. Use DSCM to connect better: )
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>>169244591
>Pretty sure the Way of White wouldn't build a cathedral full of statues of vomiting illithids.

Haven't you noticed the floors are full of Aldritch's shit aswell. That just comes with housing a goomonster in your cathedral.
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Why do people always use caestus to parry?
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>>169244906
Because it's fast and has more parry frames I believe.
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> want to build a dex-pyro
> start as a swordsman because playing sorcerer is boring af.
> no attunement slo

>>169228556
The leveling in this game is very different, look at the tables. 1 to 800 or so is something like 360 Million souls, whereas 1 to 700 in the first dark souls was 1.7 billion.

Not that there's any reason to ever go that high.

Alternate numbers, I beat the game probably a little over leveled from co-op, but I didn't intentionally grind ever, and I was level 150 or so, and level ups were 35,000 souls, whereas leveling up on my second playthrough of DaS1 at SL 115 costs double that.

So you'll be soft capping stats a lot unless you force yourself to stay at a certain SL.
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Can someone help me transfer some items on ps4
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>>169244591
The Cathedral also has a Divine Tome written in Braille, which is a traditional Way of White custom.

The Deep was not always a monstrous thing, only later did it corrupt the Way of White sect that worshipped amidst it and turned it into the cult it is today, at which point it cut off contact with the main church.
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>>169243618
>Cathedral of the Deep to pray to Velka?
Hes not there to pray. He's looking for the dark soul.
Considering that the Deacons of the Deep are an abyss worshiping cult, that seems like a good place to start a search.
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>>169245289
Nope. He's looking for a second Ash, first and foremost. When you first come upon him, he's praying for "Fire for Ariandel... and the ash to kindle flame". Remember, first the painter must see flame, otherwise she can't paint a new world. Gael only starts seeking the "pigment" after you've introduced fire the Painted World.
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>>169243253
Thank you for sticking with me, Crystelle! I've been stuck on them for weeks.
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UUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH
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>>169246101
It's going to be okay, buddy.
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>>169240614
Half-dragon.
In other words RARE and possibly will live outside the cycle.
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>>169242995
>eat food laced with Blair's sauce
>become Ceaseless Discharge
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>>169245839
>>169245289
>>169243618
Man, here I just assumed that Priscilla was venerated as a goddess of the Painted World after so long. It sort of seems weird for it to be Velka, since the crow demons are her punishment, and Priscilla is the merciful one who took them in.
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>FROM still hasn't added in the DS2 bonfire thing that showed what areas people of your SL are hanging around
I hope someone makes that node software for DS3 eventually that DS1 has.
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DS2 blog fag back.
Beat the Sentinel, the Gargoyles, The Lost Sinner and fucked up the pursuer and unlocked Belfry Luna where I fucked 2 guys in the ass who tried to invade me too.

Overall good day. I feel like I'll beat it this time.
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>>169247806
>SL
SM.
And it's pointless in DS3 given that if younfollow normal progression of the game youbwill find people to coop withm
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>>169248717
The same was true for DS2 and it was still helpful.
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>>169230953
Is it ever possible to have Leonhard and Sirris in Firelink at the same time? That would be hilarious, one of the Fingers right above her head and she doesn't even know
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>contemplated seeing if anyone wanted a free Sunlight Medal for killing Yhorm
>decide "fuck it" since I wanted to watch the Siegward cutscene and didn't want to inconvenience Sunbros with waiting
Well, I guess maybe I'll see if anyone wants to help with DSA either later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
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>>169250074
Leonhard stays at his perch until you give a Tongue to Rosaria. You'll bring Sirris to Firelink multiple times before then if you're trying for both questlines.
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>>169219124
>but yeah carpe diem
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>>169250301
And neither of them notice the presence of the other. We should have found them fighting outside at some point, and need to take the side of one
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Do covenants reset between NG cycles? I'm curious as to whether maxing out a covenant in each cycle lets you collect multiple Darkmoon Rings, Bloodlusts and Wolf Rings on a single character.
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>>169251180
>Do covenants reset between NG cycles?
I don't think they do, it doesn't even kick you from a covenant.
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>>169250312
Who would win in a fight?
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>>169251902
German sperg has a gun.

Who do you think will win?

The gene pool
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>>169251902
Regardless of who wins the fight, humanity as a collective entity wins.
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>>169251902
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Fight club

Please
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Those who play on PC with a DualShocker 3 controller, how do you do it?

I was using ScpDriver for a few days and it was working perfectly fine, but today I tried plugging the controller normally and it didn't work at all, it says it's simply not connected as any pad
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We've had arguments of lots of different things, how Yuria is superior waifu to Ornifex, Wha happened to Solaire and then the retard trying to claim blue tearstone ring is an engagement ring.

but I found this image on google, and I would like an answer to this.
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>>169252667
Lewd is convoluted
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>>169252583
I just keep mine constantly connected via USB, so that it's connected on startup. Whenever I connect it while the computer's on, it fails to detect it.
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>>169252667
Kinky
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>>169252880
For some reason I couldn't get it to work when my KB was plugged in, I had to unplug it for the controller to work, kind of weird
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New
>>169252985
>>169252985
>>169252985
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>>169252667
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>>169252667
I wonder what it smells like haha
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