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Ni--

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>NEW PATCH INFORMATION
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1580891-Upcoming-Gameplay-Improvements

>Hero guides[2/12]:
Conqueror:http://pastebin.com/d3qQXKGa (embed)
Kensei:http://pastebin.com/Mg9HRqjW (embed)
Multiple hero video guides:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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>>169167308
first for buff law
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>>169167403
Law just need to be a little faster on the lights.
Those guaranteed side heavies off a GB are criminal good.
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>>169167308
is there any source on whether or not this zone """glitch""" is actually a glitch or an intended mechanic? ive heard people whinge that its a glitch but i havent seen ubisoft address it at all
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Anyone know when we're getting new characters?
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>>169168562
I think it's going to be like 3 months or so. Atleast according to roadmap where the major releases are quarterly.
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>>169168818
fuuuck man
i want my roman :(
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>>169168818
Got a link to the roadmap?
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>>169169997

Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Bg8TXtm6Q
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>>169170895
Gratias amicus.
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Is there a limit on the angle that you get a successful GB off? If I'm fighting someone 1 on 1 and then another guy comes up behind me can he GB me or can it only come from the front?
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>>169174597
AFAIK you can GB from any direction
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>The gameplay of the guy with a BIG FUCKING HALBERD consist of grappling, pushing and hitting with the pommel

Fuck ubisoft
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PK or Orochi?

Why?
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>>169176673
Orochi so you can commit seppuku for being a huge fag
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>>169176673
I can't understand wtf Orochi are doing when I fight them. What do they do ???
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Assassin is the best role, prove me wrong.

You can't.
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>>169176919
Heavy guys are the best because it is most satisfying to hit people with them.
Shugoki a best.
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>>169176973
Never used Shugoki, what does he have going for him?
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>>169177023
A big stick and a cool (mostly useless) grab. Also coolest masks.
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How do I grind for levels in this game?

Just grind AI Skirmishes?
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>>169177023
Bullshit good hyper armour than cancels almost every attack in the game.
Instakill huggies
Some serious wack wind up for confusion fu
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Anyone else love FemConq?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6SkaFMTihI

>JERUSALEM IS LOST
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>>169177093
>Bullshit good hyper armour
It also cancels grabs and shit it's so great
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>>169177234
>Lawbringer main against a shuggy

Just fucking kill me now
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how the fuck do i fight peacekeeper as raider
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>>169167308
>Ni--
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Nerf the viking cumdump till she is useless
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>knights are nearly gone

RIP
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>>169176919
Assassins are too good, thats the fucking problem

>huge side dash with great offensive follow up
>huge damage overall
>fastest attacks meaning you can stagger most people effortlessly
>deflects resulting in guaranteed hits
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Who do you people play and who do you wish to learn ?

I'm playing Shugoki at the moment because I love the Tetsubo (I'm a crabfag in L5R) but I wish to play one or two more characters. I like the Nobushi but her gameplay isn't really for me. I'd like a shield character so I'll probably try the Conqueror (the shield bash looks really fun to disrupt shit in Dominion or even 2v2 if you're playing dirty) and maybe the Kensei since he just looks cool and I'm a samurai fag.
But I'll have to adapt to having much more options, the Shugoki only have short strings (and not a lot) so his strength are not in that, I must not keep my bad reflexes (like with hyper armour and shit).
What do you think ?
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A for effort
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>>169179172
but why
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why are knights terrible at allocating war assets? the fucking nips are about to take our headquarters
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>>169179237
he wanted revenge
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>>169179319
I swear it's rigged.
We run usually 50% or higher on the nip front but we keep getting pushed back at the very last second
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>>169179319
I have never understood how this shit works, like, how much war asset weigh in something, if I should concentrate everything in one place or try to put shit at different places, etc.
I just put stuff randomly and it kinda works?
Then again I'm playing samurai so obviously some people know much better than me and are doing the good work in my stead.
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>PC Players online 30k
>No very high activity in any game mode
Well we had a good run
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>doing dominion contracts
>doing really well, 11 takedowns and 7 objectives
>the enemy has just broken
>you have been disconnected from the server

fuck this game
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>>169179085
I play lots of stuff, I've prestiged lawbring, kensei, berseker so far, looking to prestige raider next, or shugoki.

I hate playing PK and orochi but zerker is fun as fuck. Warden I got too much of in beta to be fun anymore. Warlord I might get into eventually but he's pretty cancer.
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>>169179767
>I hate playing PK and orochi
literally nobody hates playing orochi
how could you hate playing a class with so many movement abilities?
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>>169180014
I think orochi kicks all kinds of ass but I love my my combos and orochi is a *spin dashes behind u* class not a wombo combo class
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>>169167308
i wonder why the female raider has so many paw tattoos
maybe it's because she liked spending her time underneath her villages dogs and other such woodland creatures
vikings are so gross
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Buff Raider.
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>>169180014
I don't like Orochi on principle of not like facing him because all he does is random stuff (read : I can't figure his shit out) so I get rekt.
I should probably play him to see how it works to counter him more easily I guess.
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>>169180242
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What does the defence stat on the sword do?
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>>169180463
Defenses
Lowers damage taken on hits
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Can anyone tell me why do I whiff my guard break sometimes after parrying them?

Like sometimes I'd basically dash forward and guard break them, other times I'd guard break air.
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>>169180724
cause it has a range
why is this still a question
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How to block&punish an aggressive PK as a conqueror?
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>>169180925
you can't. until they make dodging cost stamina, assassin characters can back out of any fight without being punished
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>>169179710
Is everyone just jacking off in the main menu?

I can't get a good match for shit.
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>>169180242
>Black vikings
eww
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>>169180885
So what's it range and why am I sometimes only propelling myself forward and orders time not?

And what should I do then if I parry them and they're out of my GB reach.

>>169180925
Is she a r1 spamming bitch? R1 Spam her back. Is she dodging alot and spamming pokey r2? Go full on defense and block the side she dodges.

Is she against a wall? Push her against it, then R2 Shield Bash, and watch her direction of dodge. IF they dodge right, be ready to strong attack right, you'll either parry her or you will hit her while blocking her attack. Then another Square. Repeat until they realize they can't do anything against your superior defense game.
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shugoki is fun. FUN
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>>169181050
>So what's it range
learn it in game

> sometimes only propelling myself forward
youre in range

> and orders time not
youre not in range

>And what should I do then if I parry them and they're out of my GB reach.
light attack\whatever confirmed attack long enough to hit
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What's the best way to grind for levels? I want to get at least Prestige 1 in one character, I wanna get cool looking sshit.
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>>169179710
I play active games regularly that have less than 500 players
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>>169181190
play the shit modes
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>>169181190
all the best looking gear is at rep 3
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>>169181205
You'd hope those active games wouldn't have the shittiest matchmaking in existence, though.

>>169181225
So which mode is best to grind for it?
And about how long would it take for me to do that?
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>>169167308
WHERE MY SHUGOKI MAINS AT THO!
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>>169181127
That range is fucking gay then. If I/they decide to backdash or whatever I/they can be grabbed.

If I parry someone they're thrown farther than they can backdash and not be grabbed? What is this bullshit. Also seriously is this a class issue or something?

>>169181127
>light attack\whatever confirmed attack long enough to hit
Considering they're out of range, wouldn't they be out of range from melee as well? And Dash attack barely tickle anyone and not every class has a dashing attack.
INb4 go 4 heavy, get parried yourself and thrown off a cliff.

>>169181190
Get a Friend. Complete orders. You can change orders anytime, even after completing so there, good 3500 extra exp for character.
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>>169181252
If you play dominion, you'll get 1 rep a day if you play like 5 hours
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>>169181190
i noticed dominion tends to give slightly more XP if you do well.
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>>169181270
Repeating what I said last thread, what if I'm a lonely friendless neet? No one loves me.
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>>169181258
rep 6 here boi
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>>169181365
sad
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>>169181341
Then keep going to 1v1 / 2v2 until you meet a shitter. Then tell him you can teach him about game and shit, keep giving him advice and add him.

That's how I got 5-6 people on my UPlay who I sometime talk with and play FH with. Sometimes.
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>>169181484
What if I'm a shitter myself?

I got this game yesterday.
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>>169181270
>If I/they decide to backdash or whatever I/they can be grabbed
grab is untechable if youre dashing, if youre in range to grab (range matters only for the startup of grab, thats why people slide forward to grab dashing ones)
>Also seriously is this a class issue or something
its a range issue, stand closer to them if you want guaranteed gbs
>Considering they're out of range, wouldn't they be out of range from melee as well?
different things have different range.
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So, /fhg/, have you recruited all the heroes yet?
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>fetish
>first 3 letters of IRL name
>most played class
>3rd most played class
>which class you're best at
>which you like the most
>do you make plenty use of unblockables, guard breaks, GB techs, parry, revenge mode, etc.

shitpost now pls
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>>169181660
>its a range issue,
Okay, I get that. But how do I "Stand Closer" to someone while parrying. Also does this have something to do with weapon some classes are using? Like maybe I can't Guard Break Nobushi but I can Guard Break Orochi after parry because one of them has small weapon with less range? If so what all classes are guard breakable after parry?

>>169181560
Keep dueling until you find someone who wants to teach you and want to be a friend.
If you're on PC I can help you a bit.
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>>169181940
yes, nobushi is farther away from you cause of weapon length
you can PHYSICALLY stand closer to her character
same with kensei
if youre right in his face then it works, if youre at the edge it wont
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>>169181940
>what all classes are guard breakable after parry?
That's when you need a buddy willing to test shit or they should make a bot that can be programmed, like a dummy in a fighting game
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>>169181940
Ayy hit me up.

IGN FernandZero.

no bully pls.
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Is every player in this game bad? It's pretty rare that I find a challenging opponent in dominion, I'll often play games where I'll sit on A and they can't contest even 2v1.

Warden btw
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>>169182331
>dominion

find someone in duels and add them to friends list for sets
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>>169182084
So just facekiss them and parry them. Thank you for this anon.

>>169182143
>Openly posts his UPlay.
>Any Random anon can add him and pose as me and bully.

How would you even know if right anon added you.
Just my comment chain and you'll see a vid with my uplay.
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>>169182331
dominion is shitter gametype. The best players will be found in duels
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>>169182375
I have my bros who I lan with, were pretty good

I feel like it's this way because I've done a lot of 1v1s
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rip in piss servers
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>>169182414
>The best players will be found in duels
This

I have a 5.3 k/d in dominion and only 1.5 k/d in duels
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>>169182414
Dominion is for fun gangbangs with bros.
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>>169182414
all the 4v4 modes are like this
I go like 10-0 every time now
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how long is this maintenance suppose to take?
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I WANT TO MEET LEWDKEEPER
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whats the best option for Warlord after a parry?
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HELP
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>knights got btfo so hard ubi had to shut down the servers
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>>169167757
you tell me

>>169183231
white usually signifies when a guard is up, it would be extremely annoying to test the frame that the guard comes up otherwise
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>>169183261
hitting them
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>>169183095
Thanks to a dataminer it triggers a 'Conquest' event where you take on the stronghold and fight their leader.

* For duel you can fight a level 5 bot
* There's nothing for brawl or elimination
* For dominion it's a 6v4, where 6 players are on the attacking side and 4 on the defending side. The defenders have a level 5 bot with them.

If the capital is taken EVERYONE in the faction is converted to the attacker.
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Well, I might ask again. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU TECH A PARRIED GB?

I've seen some faggots do that in 4v4 modes.(I know you can be tech'd if the enemy is out of stamina, and that was not the case)
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>>169180242
i wanna CIVILIZE that raider
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>>169183394
>knights + samurai vs vikings
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>>169179319
>allocating war assets
How is this shitty lore meme even performed?
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>>169183160
JUSTICE4SAMSY
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>>169180479

Then whats block damage resistance?
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>>169180942


http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ZDnmQtPYdu
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>>169183394
It sounds like they really don't want strongholds to be taken. Sounds sick as fuck though
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>>169183394
>lvl5 bot
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Fuck Vikings
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>>169183394
>level 5 bot

Holy fuck, I struggle with level 3 bots.
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>>169179319
I swear most knight players don't even know how to do it. I've been putting all my shit into defending territories and the weeb tide just washes over it all.
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>Even when Knights are pushed right back to their stronghold, they still choose to target Kangz
kek

KEK

K E K
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https://twitter.com/ForHonorGame/status/834429676416335872

So I guess we can say that the patch will have more than what was announced? I need me that LB buff
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i'm not deploying anymore assets against the samurai, want to see the event in action
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>>169183646
Well, knights are taking that front back now, so are the vikings on that front
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so uhh

what faction is /fhg/?

not knights i hope

thats for kids who don't understand how the game works...

and /pol/tards
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>>169183598
They do frame perfect attacks, guard breaks, parries, feints and use the terrain to their advantage.

They also all have their own unique moveset
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>>169167757
its just kara cancel
i dont know why people get caught by it, the other indicator is too quick to have to do anything about it, people just need to be more patient and stop parrying early
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changed controller layout with .ini shenanigans, but now everything is sluggish, halp
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>>169183528
Take less damage when you block.
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>>169167757

>>169173604
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>>169183718
Mostly Knights

>>169183598
>Level 5 Bot is a Centurion
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>>169183718
Samurai obviously
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M I S E R U M
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What are the two PK attacks that aren't shown in the moveset? One is zone attack and then hitting light attack?

I'm tired of being rather predictable with her.
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>>169183718
>claiming knights are /pol/tards when we have fucking vikings
lol
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was the 89MB patch anything substantial like the PK/Valk buff/GB timing change or was it just some bullshit
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>>169183718
>and /pol/tards

how to spot a reddit retard
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>>169183450
Parrying a long ranged character doesnt give you a guaranteed gb. Also debuff resistance gear might affect it, not sure.
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>tfw taking a raider apart with no chance of really doing shit on his end
So sad because I would actually want to main a Raider if he had just a few guaranteed dangerous hits as punishers or something
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Why are Knights so retarded? Is it Conq tard rage? Law mains focusing too much on their job that they forget assets? Or are some of them just secretly weeb agents?
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Guys c'mon, stop slacking.
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>>169183967
I want a sallet for my warden, is it that much to ask, fucking ubisoft.
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kensei is the ultimate class, if you disagree you are a shitter
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>>169183530
my keks
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>>169183718
Samurai. Fight for your emperor, for your daimyo and for your honor.

The samurai path
Not to destroy and murder
But to protect life
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friendly reminder that you're cancer if you pronounce it as vult not wult
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>>169183917
I mean they're not wrong. Faggots who crawl out of the polack woodwork would rather be MUH EPIK CROOSADORS, DESU BOLT ECKS DEE than musclebound strongmen.
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>>169184035
>/r/pol ever being able to beat weebs
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>>169184109
I am the ultimate player, if you disagree you are a shitter
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who needs feints?
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>>169183346
Anyone? Pls
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>>169184132
le edgy post

>Not to destroy and murder
>But to protect life
>runs when on low health and throws kunai
>dances on your corpse

stop acting like your shit don't stink, weebs
you're ass
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>>169183718
>buying into a trichotomy like Pokémon GO
People still fall for this Faction War shit? It's a watered down Facebook game feature at best, and just a waste of time at worst.
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>>169184132

Fight for false emprah Hiro, lads...
Do it for him...
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Anybody know the most efficient ways to afk farm xp?
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>>169183231
nice block, now it take it further
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>>169183530
Well fucking done.
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>>169184248
>Making the game play itself
Might as well just stop playing mate
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>>169183394
>Not even posting the data for the Level5Knight_KingAries

* Revenge_Mode
* LightAttack_Combo
* Crushing_Counterstrike
* Superior_Block
* FullBlock_Stance
* Stunning_TopHeavy
* Shove

FEATS: Conqueror (1), Fiat Lux (2), Pugno Mortis (3), Catapult (4)
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I'm in practice mode right now and nothing seems to have changed. Can someone confirm?
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>>169184248
What do you need that for? Literally just unlocks cosmetic shit nobody uses.
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>>169184375
I confirm, you are in practice mode
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>>169183972
I'm not talking about dodge to gb, I'm talking about this bullshit debuff resistance, I'll test it, but it's bullshit nonetheless
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>>169184224
To be stepped on you must first be on the ground anon-dono.
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>>169182834
>Have been one of the anons in past threads commenting on that earlier image most times, not knowing what it's from but it does it for me either way
>Figure why not look it up now that there's a name to put to all that
>Even more big ass oni muscle girls
>Warrior girls with scars
>mfw
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>>169181942
PK next

>>169184248
>change your uplay name and emblem
>turn off vibration/sound
>go to ai dominion
>pick your hero
>rubberband the sticks together
>go to work/sleep/school/whatever
>300xp/10min
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>>169184284
you don't need to parry it tho
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>enemy PK keeps stabbing me from all directions quicker than I can change my block
>whenever I play PK I always miss my swings and fuck up my dodges

How do I get remotely good as PK?
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>>169184363
>Weebs fight the King
>Roachies run away
At least Shugoki's and Kensei's
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>>169184530
>warden is as fast as orochi
gg ubi
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>>169181894
I have yet to recruit any knight characters and the only samurai character I got was shugoki cause he looked fun
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>>169183718
64% of /fhg/ is knights
21% of /fhg/ is weebs
14% of /fhg/ is vikings

I cut off the decimals
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>>169184707
>orochi does 30% more damage off of every attack
rly maeks ur ticker tock
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>Player VS AI Deathmatch is med. activity
>PvP Deathmatch is low

>MFW I realize its because the fucking weebs farm it hardcore for more war assets since they end quicker
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>>169183346
You're typing your public ip in the input are you?
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Warden buff when?
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>>169179710
>People honestly thought this game would not be dead in a week.

There was a reason Ubisoft didn't want to spend money on a dedicated server.
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>>169184818

i-it's to deploy against the savage vikings! you seen how much they fucked up in the campaign!
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>>169167308
>be warden
>fight shugoki that has prestiged several times
>worrided because I find good shugokis hard to deal with
>first match he just charges for the hug for no reason as an opener, getting his shit kicked in afterwards
>second he sits at the one point of the map you can toss people off of to fish for an enviro and spams GBs as soon as you move near him, gets his shit kicked in
>third fight I just toss him off the map as soon as he is near me because I am tired of his shit
>"nice warden "skill" "

Is this the general excuse for being a complete shitter these days? No matter how shit you play and what you do, as long as you lose to a warden, it is because he is OP?
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>>169184831
What IP should I put then? In the guide it says that you should put your own, right?
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>be me
>play dominion
>run for A
>against a warden and berzerker
>1v2
>play it perfectly, kill both of them
>use the "good fight" quickmessage
>cap zone
>15 seconds later
>they're both back
>1v2 again
>kill them both again
>"good fight" quickmessage in chat
>one quits
>the second quits
>the game crashes to map
>mfw

I should record more of my games
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When the perfect time to dodge? Attacks either follow me or my guy doesn't move when I try.
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>>169184923
Local IP the router assigned to your PC, not public.
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>completed all 5 orders in 3 matches

is there any better feeling?
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So is it just me or does every single fight in Dominion come down to "sit back and wait for my shiny gear to give me revenge in four blocks"?

Because it's really boring. I'm fighting people who don't even bother to fight properly until they've got revenge, they just sit there.
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>>169185096
I'm a scrub, where can I find such IP?
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>>169179710
>30k

I wish KoF got 30k online players...
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>>169185169
Nobushi sucking your dick after a long day of killing Kangz
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Stop opening with helmsplitter leap
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>>169185206
you stop that, nobushi is MY wife
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Why do Conq's say Hail Caesar?
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What's the best way to deal with those side-dodge attacks as Raider? Heavy feint and then light?
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Anyone have sexy emblems like pic related? I dig those.
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>>169179710
I have been playing a lot and at prestige 7 but its repetitive at this point.

There just isn't anything keeping people playing the game.

After 100 duels its all the same shit.
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Ubisoft has tasked YOU on making changes to the game to make it competitive

what do you do?
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>>169181942
>>169184530
that's it for now, anyone else have any frame data requests?

>>169185124
you can parry it if you're roach or PK but it's very difficult
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>knight territory magically jumps up 2% in the last 4 minutes

really made me think
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>>169184167
Except the knights aren't crusaders. This Deus Vult meme needs to die, it brings shame to the knight faction.
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>>169185368
bleed can't kill, leaves with 1hp
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>>169185332
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WE CAN STILL WIN, KNIGHTLY BRETHREN.

WE HELD THE WEEBS FROM OUR STRONGHOLD, WE CAN PUSH THEM BACK AND RECLAIM OUR VOLCANO.
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>>169185337
chang character ?
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>>169181127

It's incredibly inconsistent though, which is the point here. On 4 different Kensei dash>overhead light, I managed to GB 2 of them and 2 of them were GBing air as a Berserker. Berserker has issues with GBing in general, but still.
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>>169179085
Played mostly The Law and I wanna learn to PK but for the life of me I can't into the timing on her stabs- not that it matters until that gets unfucked but learning it still seems beyond me.
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>>169185429
I'm also pretty sure servers skipped the last turn resolution with the carefully planned downtime.
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>>169185368
>gb vs gb is a tech always no exceptions
>assassins can't avoid gb/grabs by rolling
>revenge mode just makes you gb immune and some extra damage
>friendly fire does 100% damage
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>>169167476
>this thing all characters can do is criminally good.
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>>169183394
>If the capital is taken EVERYONE in the faction is converted to the attacker.

For how long?
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>>169185368
1v1 only
no environmental kills
no items
final destination
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>tfw play only LB, Conq and Warlord
>only go for environmental kills 100% of the time both in 1v1 and other modes
>always gank/be a shitter in 2v2s or more
>income of salt steady and large
I really love this game.
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Can someone please take a picture of the Faction War map screen? I'm at work.
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>>169185368
Boosts and active feats can fuck off in 4v4 and dominion, passive can stay

Rework the maps in 1v1 and 2v2 so envirokills aren't fucking everywhere, leaving a bit is fine, just not spikes and ledges central.
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>>169185549
It's the open beta all over again

>lolol that that part where the knights lost didn't count knights win actually
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>>169185639
>passive can stay

high warlord main

you can go ahead and fucking kill yourself now you cunt
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>>169185368
-Hero Cap of 2 in 4v4 (like how there's a cap in brawl of 1)
-Bleed exists but doesn't kill.
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>>169185537
>until that gets unfucked
It is fucked ?
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>>169185705
I main Kensei, stay mad.
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when am i supposed to counter gb? When the icon flashes or when the mongoloid spammer gets me
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>>169185454
I want them to attack our stronghold though
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WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING THE KNIGHTS MY WEEBS

KNIGHTS ARE FRIENDS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WIPE OUT THE KANGZ
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>>169185429
ssshhh weeb

ill be gentle with your delicate tushy
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Redpill me on Lewdkeeper, who are they?
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>>169185779
i think it's the very moment when his guardbreak icon moves from his direction ui element to yours
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>>169185779
Listen for the impact noise, then press the guardbreak button, you pretty much have to be in the animation of being guardbroken to tech it
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>>169185767
You clearly haven't fought 108 gearscore warlords with 3-4 passives and revenge gear then. The only way they die before the match ends is an envio kill.
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>>169185737
I'm fairly certain, that as of now, it only does one stab's worth of damage regardless of how many times you shank somebody.
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>>169185802
Samurai currently have more territories than vikings and knights combined

Knights are forced into the situation of either defending the eastern territory from the samurai or the north from the viking
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>>169185884
I did.
But you're right, I forgot about revenge, you should've talked about that earlier instead of sperging out.
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>>169183394
Source?
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>>169185817
A person who aggressively tries to initiate ERP with randoms by acting as a very whorish Peacekeeper.
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lol mutiplayer?
oh ubisoft, dont ever change
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>>169185923
Listen you fucking weeb cunt, you're here EVERY DAY telling people to join the samurai fucking fanclub full of faggotry, and I just want your dumb ass to know that I love you~
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I am glad I chose to fight for the samurai cause for this game. Enjoy the "DEUS VAUULT XDD" retards not contributing to get any territory while a horde of ken-sama are carrying me.
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20 seconds into Q and it changes the skill restriction to all skill.

WHAT IS THIS!?
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>>169185997
whorish isnt even the start, she's got a few STDs from all the cattlefucking vikings she's had her helm split by
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>>169185705
>you can go ahead and fucking kill yourself now you cunt

>drop from a bridge
>don't die
>go back up with a bar of health left
>jump back down
>die
>rise again after a few seconds
fug
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Does anyone know the specific mechanics of getting a free heavy attack off a GB?
I main conq and after a GB sometimes I can land a heavy but other times I cant. In the same direction and fight no less. Whereas other characters ALWAYS get a free heavy after GB no matter what.

Its frustrating as fuck with how inconsistent it is. Today im fighting a berserker, GB him get a heavy attack from the right off, next time I GB him and heavy attack the same direction he blocks it. What am I missing?
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>>169185249
Stop opening with helmsplitter leap
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>>169179710
Where are you pulling the numbers out of?
It was 60k yesterday.
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>>169185923
GIVE ME A PICTURE PLEASE
>>169185636
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>>169183591
Quit prentending samurai are your friends. They are not.
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>>169186031
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>>169180724
Know I'm late to the party but from my experience if you don't time the GB right after your dash you don't get the forward movement before GB.
Just press the button mid-dash and it should get a lot more consistent.
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>>169186096
you can go to https://game-forhonor.ubisoft.com/#/en-US/faction-war
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>>169185409
>pks zone attack is the fastest attack in the game by like 8 frames
fucking shit cunts

can you do LB's top light? maybe kenseis light attacks as well
OOH
WARLORD
fuck others, warlord is important
>>
>currently losing against a legendary raider 1v1
>some retard warden comes to gank
>revenge
>???
>tears
everytime
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>>169186096
here you go senpai
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>>169186031
>FALLING FOR THE FEMININE IMAGES

NO BROTHER DON'T

ITS A TRICK
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>>169186096
here it be family
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>>169186304
What? You're telling me they are NOT a girl even after posting an image of an anime girl?
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>>169186298
>>169186330
WOAH nice
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>>169186385
YES but its not like that really matters, does it? ;)
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hows my cosplay
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>>169181225

Unless you play Berserker who doesn't get any good looking gear whatsoever.

I regret spending all my steel on this.
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>>169186459
POSER!
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You rar doing good

After rights we take rikings
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>>169186469
looks like a fucking cunt
good job
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>>169186469
Shit.

I can't wait until next Friday
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>>169186469
PK has tiny feet.
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>>169186493
you ruined kensei.
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What is the best mode for grinding reputation?

I'm assuming dominion but is skirmish better?
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>NEed to sleep but don't want to miss on the potential sacking of the knight stronghold
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How much steel do you get for completing the story mode on realistic?
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Once the knights fall we will kill them all and take their women as sex slaves!
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>Name_RUS all over the teams
>The whole match is more people bitching in chat than actuall playing
I hate russians so much.
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>>169186608
you know you can die from lack of sleep, right
also from staying in one position for too long
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>>169186668
Anon I haven't been up for a whole week.
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>>169186638
everyone's bitching in 4v4, no matter the nationality, and it's fucking terrible. At least in duels if the opponent doesn't like where its going, they just leave. But most of the time, everyone's chill
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>>169186631
Fuck off snownigger.
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>>169186627
2,000 Steel on Normal
3,000 Steel on Hard
4,000 Steel on Realistic

Each of them are a one-time deal. For just beating it you also recruit all characters and receive a free chest.
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>>169186668
>you know you can die from lack of sleep, right
Only if you don't sleep for 7+ days.
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>>169184732
I massively doubt this.
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>>169186727
what
I beat the game on realistic, got heckload of steel, but still had to recruit everyone manually
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>>169186727
Does beating it on realistic not give the rewards from the lesser difficulties?
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>>169186730
generally not sleeping enough puts you on many risks
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>>169186727
It's not carried up if you just beat it on realistic or something? Jesus that's retarded.
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>>169186830
Oh it's you again. Are you here to talk about blood clots again, too?
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>>169186817
It does.
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>Knights clinch open beta win
>Shitters throw absolute shitfit over not getting their border
>Shitters jump ship to knights because asshurt
>Shitters drag down knights because they're terrible
>Shitters lose
>Shitters jump ship to other factions
>Shitters drown said faction's winrate

The cycle continues
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>>169186730
Only if you are completely healthy. One day without sleep can be enough to kill someone if they have something like heart problems, as happened with a streamer recently.
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>>169186894
never talked about this on chans, no
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I actually wonder if they write dialogue for incredibly depraved doujins or some shit, because some of the stuff LK writes out is raunchy as fuck. Shit about being punched and beaten, pissing inside her ass while she's goatse'd etc.
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>>169187009

Pretty sure depraved doujins is what LK is pulling from for what they write.
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>>169186954
The average person doesn't have heart problems, unless you're an ameriblubber.
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>>169187009
>pissing inside her ass while she's goatse'd etc.
I'm into gape but that's a whole other level of degeneracy
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>>169187009
Is the pastebin still being updated?

Also post the pastebin link.
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>>169175382
what you want, raider copy?
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i'm having a hard time deciding what to do

>main PK
>want to play another knight class but the playstyle is completely different and is fucking me over
>meanwhile I've done well switching back and for from orochi

anyone else manage to play PK and a heavy class?
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>Can't make higher level gear switch looks with lower level gear
Why tho
Some high level gear looks really, really shit.
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>>169186385
Join the Samurai and learn about Taoism
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>>169187221
Join the shut the fuck up club and never reply to me again
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>>169187173
Not him but the Lawbringer being a whuss with no endurance just feel weird as fuck when he have a full plate with chainmail and carry a huge ass poleaxe.

I honestly wouldn't complain if they gave him hyperarmor for his heavies, and I'm not a Dredd main.
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>>169187192
>'i'm having a hard time deciding what to do'
>'main PK'
>Literally admits he can only play easy mode

I suggest a painful suicide method.
>>
How do I beat an assassin fag who exclusively dodge attacks? Am I autistic or something?
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>>169187274
it's like asking a warlord to play PK, the playstyle is completely different, it's not a matter of skill
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>>169187268
taoism would help with managing your anger

>>169187271
Why would a giant with 600lbs of metal have endurance? Smaller usually means more endurance in athletics
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>>169187221
>and learn about Taoism
Zhuangzi is a pretty cool guy.
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>>169187381
>replies anyways
Words can only fool so many
>>
>been in 2v2 queue for a good 3 minutes. No game.
>aborted and restarted.
>that was 5 minutes ago
>green NAT

ded game confirmed?
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>>169187381
Plate armor wasn't that heavy m8.
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>>169187381

Knights were used to wearing the armour. It's also spread out over the body, and designed specifically to be more efficient than just carrying all that metal.

Plus it was far from 600 pounds. Modern soldiers often carry as much or more.
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>>169187528
It's not like fucking Piccolo and shit dude, you don't just "get used to" wearing plate armor.
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>>169187148
>He doesn't have the pastebin link saved

NEVER

EVER
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>>169187192
>>169187369
this is why kensei and warden should always be the first classes for everybody to main
they're all-rounders that utilize all game mechanics, after playing them you can decide which playstyle fits you the most and choose your next main
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>>169187574
Are you fucking retarded? Have you never carried something heavy in your life on a consistent basis? The more you do it, the easier it becomes to bear with the weight.

t. carried a heavy backback throughout 4 years of highschool
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>>169187381
>le heavy medieval armor meme
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>>169187145
Lewdkeeper writes a LOT of smut related to beating her, spitting and pissing into her visor and asshole etc. Generally being used like a toilet.

Makes me fucking hard as rock.
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>>169187664
books are the intellectual's suit of armor
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>>169187574
Except you do?
Just look that shit up man it's common knowledge.
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>>169187629
p-please

lewdkeeper save me
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>>169187706
>Generally being used like a toilet.
This shouldn't make me hard
But it does
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HONORABLE SAMURAI:

We have the knight's stronghold within our grasp. Maintain the offensive, and we will surely crush them with our superior Nippon steel and sword techniques. Our time for glory has come. Our time for HONOR has come.

VIKINGS:

I have a proposition for you. Continue to attack the Knights as you are, they are in a state of panic, trying to protect their puny stonghold from our unstoppable assault. This is your chance to get free territories in the chaos, do not waste it.

FOOLISH KNIGHTS:

We will soon take your stronghold, but do not worry, those who surrender will be spared, and have the HONOR of being made into our personal cocksluts. You will be permitted to choke on our superior Nippon penises all day, every day.
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>>169187574

That's like saying people who regularly pick heavy things up don't get used to those heavy things. It's called building muscle, endurance, and stamina. It's not a hard concept. People who wear suits of armour and train EVERY DAY are going to wear it more comfortably and for longer than those who just put it on for the first time.

We're also playing heroes, not just standard soldiers, so every hero is experienced and the best of the best.
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>>169186017
>Kensei without mustache
Delete this heresy
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>>169187706
whats hot about that?
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>>169187789
.t Roach. Fuck outta here tiny dick rice nigga.
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>>169185565
For the rest of the round, I imagine. The map resets with each round.
>>
ubi better add fucking hair colour options

i want my redheaded Valkyrie
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>>169187913
There already are head color options. It's tied to headgear.
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>>169187892
I just want the possibility to pick a face model.
95% of femkensei head model is that of a 70 years old hag.
Hell some face models for the female are straight out male models.
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>>169183394
SOURCE?
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>>169187995
I wish I could just disable Kensei helmet in general. Atleast until we get cool helmets.
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>>169187789
youre why im embarrassed to play this game
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Why is guarded break such fucking horseshit? This guy just GB me twice and I see the third one coming and the game just gives him another because fuck it. Why doesn't GB instantly cancel GB? I'm not guarding you piece of shit game. I'm pretty certain that I would have killed that man were he in the same room as me.
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>>169187860
>Pissing into a female Knights helmet as she kneels below you in glee, the impacting sound mimicking an actual toilet
>Not hot as fuck
>>
why are knights so fucking bad? seriously, stop letting the tentacle weebs plug all your holes
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>>169187642
I got warden to rep 1 in the beta though?

you're missing my point
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>>169188092
its not
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looks like its on to the knights stronghold boys

keep it up
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>>169188094
Shitters flooded the faction after they won the beta.
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>>169188147
It is, you're gay.
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I've been leveling conqueror as my first "main" so to speak, but am sort of torn whether to use that as my only one. Got him up to lv.9 so not actually all that far on him yet.

Lack of feinting options makes him feel pretty shallow compared to many others. Block punish damage doesn't feel all that incredible either. Since the only combo starting from light is light-light-heavy, the second hit gets interrupted 90% of the time.
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Autism coming through

If you were to assign one of the four elements (water, earth, fire, air) to each of the Samurai characters which would you pick?
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>>169188165
fucking weebs not having to go to school/work REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169188165
do it, I dare you
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How can the weebs be pushing so much in every direction? Having twice the territories of the other two factions is crazy.
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>>169188165
>knights can't defend against grorious nippon warriors
>scram and go for frost niggers instead
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>>169188320
Warlord is a better version of conquerer, and is more fun
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So I am going to be playing this game very lightly, the guys I am rolling with main Raider and Valkyrie, what class can I be to best complement them? I am leaning towards the heavy classes because they look cool.
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Knights, I'm at work.

Is our stronghold getting fucked in the ass right now?
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!!!!!!!!!!
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>>169188385
Weebs are dominated by children and the unemployed. It's half term for schools while Knights are at work. Even Lewdkeeper is employed so can't scare the weebs away with aggressive advances.
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>>169188329
what a gross question, ew

why would you even care

admitting it's autism doesn't make it less gross and autistic, please stop
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>>169188385
Neets basically
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>>169188450
whatever class you're best at
there's not too much team dynamic in this game, and what little there is isn't much effected by the teams composition
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>>169188459
Well, let's just say it's not looking great
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>>169188450
Cant go wrong with warlord
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post your main and the two classes you struggle against the most and the least

>PK main
>a good Kensei or Berserker will push my shit in
>Lawbringer is a free win most of the time, most Orochis as well
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>>169188385
they're zerging
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post your emblems boys
heres a collection of all the ones ive made (the nerv one is pretty bad)
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>>169188385

It's obvious they have the most players.

>Hear about how OP/cheesy the samurai characters are so you joined them
>Saw an anime once so you join them
>Don't like the Deus Vult meme or being a snownigger so you join them
>Be actually nipponese so you join them

Knights have it rough.
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>>169188495
>Playing Raider
She wants to be taken by a big strong man
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>>169188329
orochi what
kensei a
nobushi gay
shoguki question

what do you think?
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>>169188165
what more can i even do?
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>>169188495
RAIDER!

JEONSEOL!
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>>169185409
warlord light, zone attack, and headbutt would be cool.
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Someone said he would report me for cheating after i won a 1v4 thanks to my revenge gear. I love PK so much.
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>>169188445
I've tried him on a few matches in brawl. Feels more powerful for sure. Almost retardedly so. The headbutt combo is insanely powerful, even if it feels annoying/unrewarding to be on either end of it when used.
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>>169188596
what are the triangles a reference too?
I swear I recognise them, but can't remember from where for some reason
also nice darkmoon
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>>169188560
>>169188573
Thanks gents. I was leaning towards warlord to complete the viking aesthetic, but I will be sure to try out a few things.
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>>169188329
why, are you going to pick whichever weeb class is most aligned with your "favorite element?"

not shitting on you, just genuinely curious.
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>>169188703
Witcher signs
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>>169188532
>gross
>ew
>gross

Tumblr please go.
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>>169187173
How about poking with the fucking tip of the halberd
Or if he's gonna be Shugoki tier slow can't he have armour
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>D-D-deus vult!
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>>169185562
Not the Raider
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>>169188703
>too
fuck kill me pls
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>>169188703
thanks, took me a bit to perfect it. had to make use of the background layer for the pommel and the tip of the blade.
and yeah as anon said theyre witcher signs
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>>169188787
I'm pretty sure raiders heavy is guaranteed after a GB as long as it isn't from the top.
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>>169188639
holy shit

join superior samurai while you still can
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>>169188596
I still need more sexy emblems
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So for a main, Warden, Kensei, Orochi, or Warlord?

I like playing Kensei the most but the fear of being non-viable due to lack of tools to deal with turtle meta makes me a bit scared.

Warlord seems cool but cancer+trex arms makes me feel like a shitter, how do you even play him well? I just GB>top heavy and it works half of the time.
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>>169188728
I wanted to theme them (colors, patterns, engravings, ornaments) all after whichever element most appropriately suited them.
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>>169188495
>she plays Raider
>not Kensei
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>>169188054
This is supposedly a bug, and being addressed in the next patch whenever that is.
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>>169188863
I've tried in practice mode against bots, unless they're doing bot magic like countering parry GBs it's not possible. Only heavy you can guarantee is the unblockable after a forward throw.
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>>169188986
>koreans playing a japanese character
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>>169187789
FOOLISH SAMURAI
BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW IS STUCK, I WILL OPEN UP A PORTAL IN TIME AND FLING YOU INTO THE FUTURE
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A MAGIC SWORD
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>>169189026
>playing as a dirty snownigger and not a grorious slant
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>>169189026
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>>169189031
I audible laughed
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Will the upcoming Roman hero use a cavalry helmet design as a base? Faceplates do provide more options for customization.
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>>169188497
I have noticed that territory shifts seem to go in waves, as if factions are more popular in other parts of the world.
I think Europe is predominantly Knight, and we're almost to prime time there.
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>>169188596
I AM STEALING THAT NERV AND LAUGHING MAN EMBLEMS
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>>169184645

play tons of duels and learn every class moveset and timing and what distances are safe for this and that

most people don't bother using deflect cause parry will normally punish harder, but it's a good way to mess with peoples rythm, especially Berserkers and Orochis are good to learn deflect against

only side dodge to punish, never to initiate, open with a lunge to measure the skill of your opponent, a bad player will eat it, a decent player will block it and a good player will parry it, if they block or parry, don't do more lunges unless you feel it's safe

poke with your zone cancel and mix up between playing defensive and aggressive, don't be afraid to run out of stamina, most players can't punish an exhausted PK well, your guardbreak tech better be on point though

bait with heavy feints and throw some heavy cancel into light stabs to mix things up

if you guardbreak an enemy near a wall, stab them once then throw them into wall for a free lunge attack, as always follow up with the light stab

if an enemy is out of stamina, go for a grab to knock them down, follow up with a guaranteed heavy into light stab followup


PK is pretty easy against bad players because of the fast moveset and different ways to punish mistakes, but once you meet the good ones it gets difficult (and fun).


also, help PK reputation out by being friendly, don't ragequit, don't be a cunt, compliment well plays etc. show people that we're not all 14 year old kids playing PK
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Does Nobushi get a free combo off her kick?
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>>169183394
>level 5 bot

RIPP SAMURAI
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>>169189150
go for it, if you need help you can add me on uplay (vinlaw) and pm me
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>>169185914
Yes
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>>169189219
We already have our bitch crusader out there improving PK relations.
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>>169189245
If the kick lands, she gets a guaranteed bleed stab followup.
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>>169188621
>Don't like the Deus Vult meme or being a snownigger so you join them

I sided with the knights during the closed and open beta, but ended up getting put off by the retarded and overused Deus Vult memes and just the general circle jerk nature that would put even Reddit to shame. Vikangs have never appealed to me, so the only remaining sensible option is the Samurai.

I still main Conq though
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>>169188329
Orochi= water
Kensei= fire
Shugoki= earth
Nobushi= air
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>>169188581
>Kensei
>I've yet to lose a fight to nobushi and PK's are usually easy if I'm not playing dumb.
>A good LB or warlord will push my shit in because I'm terrible at fighting defensive playstyles.
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>>169189319
>that feel
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>>169189219
>Giving a shit about other people's opinions

Just ignore it and chirp scrubs
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Is Kensei actually a viable main at higher level play?
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>>169189319
>nigress

LEWDKEEPER NO
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>>169189391
>Shugoki= earth
A true crab clan samurai
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>>169167308
PLEASE FAMILIA, HELP ME OUT WITH MY NAT

This is what i think ive done:
1. Made a static ip
2. Port forwarded all the ports i needed TO that static IP

Heres what doesnt work:
Network utilities says ports arent forwarded

is there any way to check if i fucked up making a static IP?? i dont know shit about this so it might be that

PLEASE, promise ill main lawbringer so you can fug me up
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>>169189512
why do you care? youll never be at that level
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>>169189335
That's fucking annoying.
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>>169188581
>Valk
>Shugoki's and Nobushi's can be rough
>Raiders and Roachies are normally easy enough
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>>169189525
That's part of her armor?

You don't see any part of the PK's skin outside of her face (through her face plate)
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>>169185028

timing is everything anon, just practice

>>169185368

remove revenge from duels

remove gear stats and powerups from elimination (but keep it in dominion)

fix Shugoku and PK bug, buff Valk dmg, but leave rest as is

buff Lawbringer somehow

fix it so the fatty classes can switch guard as fast as PK can switch attack stance

remove or redesign Skirmish


that's all i'd do for now, most other complaints is a matter of skill
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>>169189647
That's possible but also I could reach that level, instead of shitposting maybe answer the question
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>>169189627
this thread is too fast so im gonna keep replying to this post hoping someone will see it
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>>169187112

Well, you never know if you have a heart problem or not unless you've specifically checked for it. A lot of people die every year from just a malfunctioning valve and whatnot, yet they are as healthy as can be.
>>
So does anyone understand how faction war works under the hood? It always seems like the territories that will change hands are decided upon right after a round ends.
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>>169188581
>Femzerk
>Warlord and conqueror because all they do is spam that fucking shield bash
>other berzerkers because they can't use it properly
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>>169189512
yes
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>>169185409
LB block switch
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Crush the knights and take their stronghold! Rename Constantinople to Weebstanbul!
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BattleEye anticheat when
Or more like why the everloving fuck is it not running already
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>>169188329

Shugoki is Earth.
Nobushi is Water.
Orochi is Air.
Kensei is Fire.

Raider is Earth.
Warlord is Fire.
Berserker is Water.
Valk is Air

Warden is Water.
Conqueror is Fire.
Lawbringer is Earth.
Peacekeeper is Air.
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>>169189661
Dodge the kick and punish.
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Is there ANY point in spinning your flail as a conqueror? Feels like you're basically offering them a free parry for it.
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>>169189391
Swap orochi and nobushi and you've got it right. The orochi moves even have wind themed names.
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>>169189973
orochi air?
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>>169189973
>Orochi is Air.
>Peacekeeper is Air.
more like fart
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>>169179085
>fellow L5R player
Aaaay
I main Kensei. I'm really feeling the void 5 clutching of battles man. I am at one with the battlefield
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after playing the samurai campaign on realistic I now know why orochis run away so much
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trash gang
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>>169189984
That doesnt make it any less annoying.

It's a very fast unblockable and already gives her good displacement on its own.
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>>169190131
GANG GANG

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRAH
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>>169188581
>Conqueror main
>Warlord headbutt spam is my kryptonite, and good Shugoki's can be a problem
>Most Orochi's are predictable as fuck, and Zerkers are usually easy
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>>169190191
>very fast
>can consistently side dodge it on reaction
It's one of the slowest unblockables in the entire game, if not the slowest non-damaging unblockable.
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>>169189363
I think I've seen deus vault used once.

Mostly I've just seen a bunch of guys who really like lawbringer and are kinda sad about how bad he is.
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Hope the weebs are ready for the third crusades because this shit is fucked

Your children's children will not know what peace means.
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>>169190276
I'm not saying its broken or anything.
Just annoying.
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>>169189525
The neck portion is dark leather
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>>169188581

I main Valkyrie.
My two worst matchups are Berserker and Nobushi. I don't know how to follow Berserker's movements and I do not understand Nobushi's true range. I'm also not the best against Shugoki but I manage.

One thing about this game that constantly trips me up is that you can't interrupt enemy attacks with guard breaks. I've lost more matches trying to do that than for any other reason.
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>>169190286
I constantly see DEUS VULT and templar/SS/swastika emblems in premade 4s.

it's fucking cancer.

There's always that one dude playing a fucking samurai
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>>169190131
MUDADA
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>>169189973
Think you have raider and warlord mixed up myself.

consider playstyle and feats. Hell, raiders default lvl 4 is a firebomb.
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CHARGE THE KNIGHT STRONGHOLD
BREAK THEIR SPIRIT
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>>169188865
>>169188639

Is that a lot? I've been very casually deploying my assets.
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>>169190475
>>169190505
jojo referendum?
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At what reputation level does scavenging gear guarantee a purple item?
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>>169190527
yes
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>>169190597
Rep 3 and onwards.
>>
What's a good amount of time to spend with each class to get a feel for how they work?

I was thinking about getting each class to prestige 1, but I've only gotten raider to 15 and berserker to 11 playing since release.
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>>169186772
it's based off the friends list in the OP.

someone was running a strawpoll earlier and knights were leading in that too

found it
http://www.strawpoll.me/12399750/r

67% knights
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>>169190597

It's apparently recommended not to use your crates until reputation three on a hero.
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>>169190612
what do people usually have?
>>
Is there a way to limit fps? I want to turn off vsync but dont want my gpu going jet engine mode.
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>>169189363
>You may only deploy war assets from games where you play as one of you faction's warriors.

There's the faction war fixed.
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>>169190450

Valk has deflect right?
practice deflecting berserkers, especially the side dodge spin and lunge attack
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>>169190772
Wrong.

>Faction lock teams
>Losers get no war assets
That's a decent chunk fixed right there.
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>>169190707
Thanks for the responses
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>>169188581

>Berserker
>Conq and Warlord with their shitty shields
>Nobushi and Raider
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Skirmish really is the worst game mode they could ever make.
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>>169184923
Hey idiot. Open a command prompt. Type in the command "ipconfig. " Press enter. Your ip is listed under your network adapter in the field "IPv4 address"

Git gud.
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>>169190915
nah man, that's not elimination
>OH BOY HE'S RUNNING AGAIN
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>>169190846
>teams locked
boy I can't wait for vikings to always lose games
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>>169190915
>Get an 8 killstreak in a Skirmish match without dying

Atleast it was AI
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do you realise if you take it you'll be cut off?
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>>169190942
Elimination is the only fun mode in the game
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>>169190960
>viking players are the worst
Excuse me? Who currently has the weebs at their doorstep again?

Also it faction locks the teams, not the classes.
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>>169190695

go into bot practive vs a lvl 0 or lvl 1 bot to learn and do each class's moveset a few times

then jump on your main and start grinding duels, soon you'll know it all
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>>169190772
Kensei's my secondary so it's not like that'd be an issue, at least not for me.
>>
This game is so daunting for an all-round player if you wanna play a little 4v4.

Unless you go prestige 3 at minimum grind, you are worthless vs gear 100+ players with full revenge gear that knows what they are doing.

But i dont wanna grind the same char over and over, fucking me over in half the game modes of this game, because duels and 2v2 gets stale fast.

Ohh and you gotta get prestige 3 and loot chests on every char you wanna 4v4 on too.

Jesus christ. At least i dont feel forced to prestige 30 to be a space marine, but why did they have to halt gear progression overall by making it char only. Aint the prestige grind alone enough for 1 char?
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>>169190846
Any form of locking Faction to Heros would definately resolve the problem.

What's the point of choosing a faction if it has no bearing on your gameplay?

What's stopping us all from picking Samurai next round.

Does the round end early if we both opposing strongholds are captured? Can we force Ubisoft to release their 'Seasonal Content' by all joining the same faction and ending the Season 8 Weeks early?

What exactly stops us from doing that?
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>>169188581
Kensei
>any shield character
>zerkers

good thing people rarely play turtles in duel. I do see a warlord every so often, but they tend to be more aggressive parry bait

>>169191015
Oh the teams, that makes a little more sense. But whoeever has the highest pop (vikings) would never be able to find games. ANd my comment was referencing the fact that Viking classes aren't the greatest.
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>>169190984
This is constantly shifting control. It could end up under knight or samurai rule by the end of the turn.
>>
>play any character ever
>get hit with a light attack
>stagger
>follows up with a thousand light attacks from every direction
>move to block but it my character doesn't block because of stagger
>finally block an attack after getting hit 7 times
>less than 50 percent health

help, wtf am I doing wrong? I can't even roll away when after getting hit
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>>169191169
stop playing lawbringer
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>>169188581
Kensei
I get my shit fucked by any shields characters, and warden
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>>169191135
>highest pop (vikings)
Proof?

>ANd my comment was referencing the fact that Viking classes aren't the greatest.
Yeah, I know that. It's still a stupid comment.
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>>169188581
Kensei/Valkyrie
FUCKING FAGGOT PKS AND WARDENS
Zerkers, Lawbringers, Orochi
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>>169190131
is orochi a girl or a boy?
who knows?
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>>169191162
do you know the percentages on both?
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>>169191309
But I was playing warden
maybe I should stop playing LB, he's teaching me bad habits
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>Go dueling
>parry every move and kill the other player without taking any damage
>"You're the most sad and pitiable person i have never seen. I hope you get an incurable disease and have a horrible life, you faggot"
>disconnects after the first match

Whats wrong with these tryhards?
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>>169191389
49/50 and 49/50 its close as fuck
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12400990
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>>169188639
>>169190527
Brothers

Why must the plebs drag us down?
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>>169190772

War assets get pumped into the defense of your territory that's closest to your stronghold would fix it.
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>>169191117
If you swap factions during the first round you'll lose out on the rewards if that faction wins. If you swap after the first round you'll miss out on all the rewards for the rest of the season.

So there are consequences, even though they're pretty light.
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>>169189512
I don't know what high level is but I'm a rep 3 kensei main and not having issues
>>
Who /fatnip/ here? He's actually really fun, uninterruptible unblockable charged heavy is awesome, and instant execution at low health is the harbringer of salt
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>>169184131
>shadman
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>>169191135
>highest pop (vikings)
You mean lowest, right ?
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>>169188581
Kensei
Any PK, Valkyries or Wardens
Orochis and most other Kenseis are free

I'm not sure if PK's really are broken or its just me
>>
Anyone who pops revenge in a 1v1 is a piece of shit
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>>169189512
He's eh. Almost everything of his is parriable so he has to LOVE feints or interrupts to get anything going. He has great guaranteed damage with parries if there's a wall nearby so it's all about positioning with him.
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>>169188639
>>169190527
>>169191482
i've fighting on the fronts for the bonus mind
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>>169184131
Someone edit out the freckleshit already
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>>169190527
>>169188639
>>169191482
Convert to Samurai and i'll promise to get you many willing Femroach and Nobushi wives, this is your last chance
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>>169184131
Why is shad such a good? We don't deserve him
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>>169191582
I would actually promote shadman more if he drew straight porn instead loli/scat shit
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>>169191652
>not liking freckles
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>>169191652
>editing shad garbage
Might as well become an artist yourself at that point.
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>>169190817

Valk has auto-guard in the direction you're dashing, which is a little different and inconsistent.

Not so much the ability itself but more because I don't know when and which direction to dodge for every attack in the game yet. I find dodging is a death sentence more often than not unless you're doing a backwards panic roll.

I have yet to fully test the front guard dash but it has come in clutch for me sometimes.
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>>169191630
I agree.
Unless if you're a peacekeeper. Then go fuck yourself, I'm going to revenge that ass.
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>>169191652
>not liking the imperfection that is butt freckles

Pleb
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>>169191652
>He doesn't like freckles
You a nigger or something?
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>>169191657
im not even fucking TEMPTED thanks
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>>169191725
Personally I don't like shad just because everything he draws just looks so gross, like they've been doused in dirty oil.
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>>169191657
Only if the Nobushi wife is you
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>>169191571

Yeah, i am just getting tired of the constant accusations of using the bug.

People always need a reason for bitching even if they lose in a fair fight.
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>>169190817
>>169191740
>>169191740
The damaged from whatever you follow the deflect with isn't as good as a parry. Meaning don't go for it, just think of it as a nice perk
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>>169185368
"Realism" mode

No HUD
No feats
No revenge
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>>169191785
What about
a pure and honest Kensei wife
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>>169188865
>superior samurai
>samurai
>superior

weeb
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>>169191872
only if she's white
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>>169167476
>This attack that demends on a GB that can be teched is criminal good
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>>169191909
It all makes sense now
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>>169191909
someone go get the tape
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>>169191335

it's weird that you shit on Zerks and Roaches, but struggle with PK, what part of their mechanic messes with you?
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Anyone know exactly how the war-asset system works?
Is it electoral collage tier were the more people belonging to a faction the less their war assets count as a whole?
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>>169191909
Are you sayting you wouldn't kill over a niggress kensei?

Disgusting.
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>>169191836
>Lannister meme crest

fag, nice poleaxe though
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>>169188581
Haven't really mained anyone besides in closed/open beta i played nothing but PK. Since shes bugged and theres no ranked i figured id learn the cast. Now that i know 108 gear is so good i might focus back on her after i finish warlord to prestige 1. Don't think any other class is worth learning at the moment.
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im bored give me emblem ideas
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>>169187747
Not LK but I got you bby

http://pastebin.com/63HVzDBf
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PATCH WHEN?
I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF GUARD BREAKS
I CAN'T FUCKING DO IT
I know when i'm SUPPOSED to press it, but it never fucking works. NEVER.

And when I guard break someone else, i'll hold them for a full second and then they'll break out of it. How the fuck do they GBC so fucking late? It's so fucking frustrating to see people having such an easy time of it yet no matter how much I fucking practice it, it doesn't fucking work.
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>>169191623

you're a Kensei main and struggle with PK

i'm a PK main and struggle with Kensei

i think it's down to playstyle, skill and experience anon
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>>169191480
>most of the people use controller
>most of the people are knights are are getting trashcanned 24/7

makes sense
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>>169192038
Coat of Arms of your home region/city.
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>>169192038
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>>169192045
I can't wait either I want my triple stab back. wtf ubi soft
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>>169192038
>Brand
GODDAMNIT WHY AM I SO RETARDED
WHY DIDNT I DO THIS
That's a nice lookin egg though mate
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>>169192045
>i'll hold them for a full second and then they'll break out of it
lol'd
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>>169192038
make a GOOD jolly roger
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>>169192045
>tfw played against a level 2 lawbringer bot and it spammed gb and raped me
>I am a rep 1 warden
why must I suck so hard
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>>169192102
Yeah seems so
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>>169192123
That looks disgusting.
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Should I even play Dominion if the enemy team is always Prestige 1/2 and I'm lvl 11?
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>>169192045
>And when I guard break someone else, i'll hold them for a full second and then they'll break out of it

I'm pretty sure that wasn't a GBC, chances are you just took too long deciding what to do.
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>>169192123
I voted K-M and I play PK :^)
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>>169192135
>>169192135
what use is an angry horse without a knight
plus i play as vikings, so it doesnt feel right using it
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>>169192226
low test knightfag
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>>169179319
Allocating war assets doesn't matter, what matter is that all the console faggots are weebs
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>>169191836
yo game of thrones is really bad
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>>169192123
>most of the people are knights are are getting trashcanned 24/7
>win open beta
>other two factions get asspained and gang up on you
who ever wins round one will be getting shitcanned next week
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>>169192206
I'm a rep 2 kensei and I still die to stupid shit like bot lawbringers shoving me off cliffs, so don't feel bad.
Hell just last night a nobushi bot jump attacked me from above and killed me.
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>>169192337
yeah but I really like the simplicity of the lannister crest
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>>169188581
>Raider
>A warden that stays in overhead stance and just spams his fast as fuck attacks will eventually kill me without me being able to do anything about it, also a shugoki that can parry.
>Orochis suck and LBs play way too defensive so I usually just feint their shit up
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>>169192250
You'll be fine as long as youy have feats you want.
Gear doesn't do much until you reach purple tier anyways.
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Remember to do Advanced training for a free 1500 Coins.
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JINJYO NI SHOUBU
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>>169192123
Its for my own interest.

I'm playing kb+m but I feel like I'm accidently blocking wrong directions a lot.
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>>169192339
>win open beta

Actually they didn't, Ubi just decided to not count the actual winner.
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I think I've got this about as good as it can possibly get.
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>>169192463
NO SUPESTES
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>>169192489
What?
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>>169191571
>uninterruptible unblockable charged heavy
It can be parried can't it ?
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So at what point do they add the 4th faction for the OG 3 to gank on?
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>>169191480
kb+m has literally not a single advantage unless your controller's right stick is slow because some of your cum dripped in
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>>169192038
Did you just use 5 lines to make the brand? I feel fucking retarded looking at this now because i tried making it in beta and just gave up. Mainly because i was trying to go for a 1:1 look which isnt possible with 5(6) max symbols.
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>>169192489
Hence why the Vikings were asspained as fuck and want revenge. It also gives the Samurai a good reason to go after them.
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>>169192375
I thought bots were suppose easy
I decide to play skirmish this morning before work to get those orders out of the way and I got fucking rekt buy a PK, LB, warlord, and Kensei bot
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>>169192489
Hi vikang

your ass is still sore I see
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>>169192504
blacks cant be judges
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>>169192571
>SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
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>>169192564
At the moment, not necessarily, no.
Usually yes.
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>>169192504
Looks really good, anon
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>>169191979
Just their light attack pressure and how far she can dodge shit
The others are perfectly feasible for me
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>>169192017

I'm similar except I don't have that many rep1s, most are stuck at 16-18. Just not feeling it enough with any character, zerker is my highest though.
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>>169192625
glorious nippon actually

we don't even want your shitty desert castle, it's just hilarious to see knights lose. it doesn't matter who's hand it's by
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nth for stopped playing until gear is removed
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>>169192489
>Actually they didn't, Ubi just decided to not count the actual winner.
>t. assmad vikingnigger proving my point
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>>169192618
you can use a red square and a black square to get the "ring" shape
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>>169191836
>>169192337
switch the colours and you've got a scottish flag
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>>169188581
>PK
>Zerker and for some fucking reason Raiders always fuck my shit up
>Shugoki and LB
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>>169192379
Do the actual Lanchester crest if you can, it's a lot better

>>169192571
>Appolyon invades again
>All 3 gotta gang up to take her legion on, at the smack dab middle of the map
>Her faction shits out assets like its nothing
>You have to fight level 4 AI the whole way, level 6 AI at the actual stronghold
>They make a beeline straight towards the strongholds
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>>169192593
it's much easier to tech GBs on a KB+M then on the default controller config, but since I rebound my gamepad and put GB on left trigger, I switched back to controller
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Someone repost the striped panties emblem please
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>>169192596
not the first one to ask
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>>169190698
>implying i joined your fuckboi friends list
>imploying i clicked some vg strawpoll

lmaoing @ u
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>>169187574
Armour is not heavy.
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regarding KB/M vs controller

i've done a hero to prestige 2 on each of them

the main thing i discovered is that on keyboard you can rebind guardbreak from M3 to M4, thus having an active finger ready on both dodge (space) and guardbreak (M4) at the same time, making it way more reactive

controller feels more limited in rebinding options, you can put gb on R3 click for example, but unless you use claw grip that means you still gotta move your finger to dodge (X or A), or vice versa to gb (R3 click), which usually is no good when it comes to correct timing

personally i feel like the R2 trigger is too clunky for heavy attacks as well, rebound that to L1, felt much better

i considered putting gb on R2, but never actually tested it

tl;dr i think KB/M is superior because it's more reactive
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>>169192620
When you're used to players doing cautious and careful shit and using parries it really throws you off when you're suddenly fighting things that don't do any of that.
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>>169188581
>Warlord
>Nothing (maybe another warlord but I rarely see any)
>Everything else, specially assassins
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>>169192781
What do you lock on with then?
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>>169192805
now lets see someone who's 7 feet tall do that
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>>169192778
>Lanchester

Lancaster*
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>>169192805
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>>169191657
When do they dish out faction rewards?
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>>169192845
X, set to toggle. I play mostly duel so I don't need to get at the lock on that quick, but even in elimination and dominion it doesn't cause issues for me. I found that I was holding LT 95% of the time I was playing, so there was no reason not to switch to toggle and put it on a less important button.

I've done much better since getting used to GB on LT and feint on LB
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>>169192868
You're moving goalposts now.
The point is armor isn't as cumbersome as you think and that its more than reasonable for LB to have at least slightly better movement.
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>>169192868
>7 feet tall
>medieval era

Also it's not only about weight, it's about weight distribution. Even if you just wear a mail hauberk, it'll feel less heavy if you wear it with a belt than without, because it'll distribute some of the weight from your shoulders to your waist/hips.

This is also why some early samurai armor can feel heavier than medieval plate, due to the weight being concentrated on the shoulders.
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>>169192708

zerker light attack pressure is pretty mean as well, but most of them don't use it cause their spin 2 win is so efficient against shitters that they get bad habits
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>>169192828
I just want to get good anon
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>>169192868
Plate armour weighed on average 30-60 pounds, and this is evenly spread out around your body..

A US soldier carries 60+ minimum on his back.
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>>169192820
interesting, I use controller but hadn't thought of binding something to a stick click. I wonder if dodge on right stick click would work at all; I already have GB on left trigger so I can hit it reactively, but dodge is on A.
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>>169192339
>win open beta
>other two factions get asspained and gang up on you
No shit, I'd be butthurt too if I were to lose because Ubisoft decided to pull the plug early without taking the last turn into account.
DEUS VULT memesters are still cancerous though.
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what rep do you start getting yellow items?
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Now with added BITE
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>>169193096
LOKTAR OGAR
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>>169193036
The best way to git gud is to play the game and fight actual people, but you probably already know that and shun it, so how about this.
Go into a 1v1 duel with a level 3 bot with your class.
If you can flawless them AND land the execute you've not gotten completely good but gotten better.
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>>169192785
its just to bad you couldn't atleast do this because of limitations. Fans will probably get the reference but it just looks incomplete to me. Sorry for shitty mspaint skills
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How do you win as Valk when your opponents knows all the dumb shit she can do?
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>>169193076
where the fuck is all this butthurt from Dues Vult coming from?
I've never heard anyone online utter this phrase outside of internet forums
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>>169188639
>tfw I suck
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>>169192868
what the fuck is your point? that it wouldn't be "realisitic?" you're like the guy yesterday saying PK and orochi should get up quicker because they're wearing less armor.

the game should be balanced around balance, not realism, it's already far from realistic.
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>>169192829

keep trucking that Warlord anon, as a PK i struggle against a lot of Warlords
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>>169179710
just over 40k players playing, making it the 7th most played gamed on steam (if uplay players were counted on steam)

whats the problem?
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>>169193286
Ignore shitposters who complain about the game.
They don't like the game and can't understand how people can like what they don't like.
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>>169192645
>At the moment, not necessarily, no.
>Usually yes.
it bugs or something?
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>>169192868
>kid who's only game is dark souls and thinks that wearing armor really hurts your endurance and makes you a walking tank
lmao
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>>169192339
Do people actually "gang up" on a specific faction?
Like, actively setting resources against one faction instead of the other?
If I even remember to set mine after each game, I more or less choose randomly. I didn't realize people actually gave a shit about the dumb meta board game that's just "pick one and hope it turns out to be the most popular faction".
>>
wow I'm actually burnt out of the game
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>>169192714
I think my issue is i prestiged most of the "good" classes and going to the weaker classes will just piss me off.
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Isn't the fact that PK is a female only class a bit sexist?
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>>169193368
I will never EVER attack the knights.

Always Vikangz

I can't speak for other weebs though
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>>169191993
>commiefornian still mad that their voter fraud didn't get their corrupt bitch into the white house
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>>169193000
I love zerker so much. You manage to make them goof up their block order, and suddenly their health is gone. My favorite bit of tech is canceling one of the heavies in your infinite chain into a gb for executes/mixups. After getting good at zerker every other class deals bad.
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>>169180724
You do -not- get a guaranteed GB after parrying a heavy attack from a Kensei or Nobushi. Due to their longer weapon/range a parried heavy attack leaves them too far away, and a GB will whiff. You only get a post-parry GB on parried lights from those 2 characters
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>>169193054

of those options i'd rather have gb on stick click and dodge on trigger

either way i think it's essential that you don't have to move your finger far for either of them
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>>169193264
This is fun to watch. I low-key hope the weebs win just to see what happens when a faction reaches a stronghold
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>>169193182
>The best way to git gud is to play the game and fight actual people
but I do that and every time I get gang raped because the stupid order is to play skirmish or some bullshit
should I juts play 1v1 duels?
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>>169193493
I didn't know your mom ran for president.
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>>169193487
>not just wanting to see what happens when you touch a stronghold

retard
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mommy
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>>169193086

you never get yellow items

you get yellow gearscore by upgrading lvl 13 items all the way to lvl 18

you get lvl 13 items from prestige 3

>>169193582

dominion is best for grinding xp, duels/brawls is best for grinding skill
>>
is this the best fighting game for people who dont play fighting games?
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>>169193352
There's an unlock-from-target bug that can make it unparriable, yes
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>>169193581
this
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>>169191842
Its not a big, is it? I thought it said it that property somewhere on his page

>>169192564
>parrying
>on p2p
Wew
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>>169193696
that would be smash
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>>169193682
MY WOLVES
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>>169193582
Basically yes. Fight duels, get good enough to where you an gb tech at least 75% of the time, learn your parries and how to punish them with your specific character. Once you get solid there, killing multiple people will be a cinch for you as blocking multiple people is surprisingly simple. Revenge is ez mode when people gang up on you.
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>>169193368
>Do people actually "gang up" on a specific faction?
yes but it isn't organized
Its a heard mentality of "this group is winning" or "this group won last time" therefore focus more on them then the other guy. Enemy of my enemy dies second mindset
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>>169167308
>beat a nuboshi first round
>"that character is bullshit"
>2nd round she ledges me
>3rd round she kills me in 4 light attacks (with bleed ofc)
>"haha you were using your Op character and i still won"

why do people who play peacekeeper, nuboshi and orochi think they're good when they can win with easy characters?
>>
What does it mean when an opponent's attack has an orange shield symbol on it?
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>>169193769
smash is way harder to play than for honor
>>
Prepare yourselves Samurai, for UNSPEAKABLE EVIL
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>>169193167
Kek
>tfw nobody seems to know what it is
I guess I'm the only sonyfag vet here
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>>169186469
Is that the Lens of Truth on your chest?
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>>169193820
I don't see how difficulty ties into the question I answered
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>>169193497

this is why i deflect punish zerkers with my PK, it shuts down their insane offense

a good feinter is always a challenge regardless though
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>>169191117
>What's stopping us all from picking Samurai next round.
Because as >>169191524 says, switching faction forefits your rewards for the round, and if you switch factions after the first round is over at any point during the season, you forefit *all your season rewards.* The game heavily encourages picking a team and sticking with it.
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>>169193803
t. warden
>>
>duel winrate of 85% with a 3.5 KDR
>meet a team of raiders while doing dominion orders
>think to myself ez game
>the raiders get revenge in 3 hits and proceed to spam feint their zones forever

Was not ready. Going back to duels I am.
>>
>Someone leaves the game
>Game hard crashes
How can you fuck up shit this badly?
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>>169193806
Its unblockable, so get out of the way.
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>>169193713
Alright I didn't know, wouldn't have guessed it
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>>169193487
wish I could have the same luxry except focusing on the vikings week 1 destroyed the knights southern border

>>169193493
I'm a florida fag and voted Trump. I'm just wondering because of faction A is 100,000 people, faction B has 300,000 people, and faction C has 500 people; then how are those assets counted? Would faction C just take it up the ass everytime
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>>169193848
AKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>169193939
kensei
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>>169193851
we get your stupid wow reference, but that doesn't mean we're gonna reply and tell you how hilarious you are

>sonyfag
how is that even relevant
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>>169193906
As a Kensei, my primary method of baiting PK's is to spam the forward dodge attack, lose the first round then on the second round simply forward dodge to bait their side dodge attack, parry, punish. after that I play regular mixup since they're now too scared to react to it
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>>169193848
Delete this
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>>169193848
Cute
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>>169193763
I play with buds that have good internet
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>>169194060
It's actually Team Piranha from WipEout. I've never even played WoW.
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>>169193803

there is literally zero heroes that are "easy" versus skilled opponents

there are definitely underpowered heroes atm, but i'd venture as far as saying none of them are overpowered

anyone who thinks PK, Nobu and roach are easy should try playing them against people who aren't spammy button mashing shitters who can't guardbreak or feint
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>>169194045
in that case I apologize and you were 100% in the right

a nobushi calling a kensei OP is fucking ludicrous
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>>169193803
reminder that unchecking this box makes the game a hundred times more enjoyable
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>>169194220
But I like fan mail
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>>169194145
oh, sorry then, miscommunication. I was referring to the "loktar ogar" thing; I thought that's what you were saying people didn't get, not the picture.
>>
this game should sell fanservice dlc
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>>169193956
Happened yesterday in a match of elimination I was actually reking in after playing 3 straight games of getting raped by rep 3-5 PKs
Fucking raged
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>>169194148
>versus skilled opponents

unfortunately, i am not a professional player, and neither are you. the nobushi atttacks very fast and its easy for even a pro player to fuck up
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>>169194148
>none of them are overpowered

we get it, you play warden and PK. it's alright, they won't be nerfed too hard. just a little
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DO YOUR JOB, SAMURAI
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now everytime I fight with a PK, or alongside them, I can't help to fantasize about them

thanks /fhg/
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>>169193848
WHEN'S THE FEAT TO JUMP GOOD
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Berserker is cute?!
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>>169194419
YOOOOOOO
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>get level 18 gear on berserker
>dominion becomes a fucking joke

Literally just block twice, get Revenge and just go 1v4 without losing half my health bar. It's silly. God help those people if I have Berzerk ontop of that.
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>>169194301
I used to think hate mail on PS4 was a myth until I started playing this

Some people get genuinely salty over losing matches, even if it's a really close game
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>>169194465
the only female to show her face

she's a qt
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>be me
>fight a roach in 4v4 elimination
>he literally spams backdash, over and over
>backdashes into a shield buff
>keeps backdashing
>suddenly forward dashes and catches me off guard, throwing me off a ledge
>topkek
>rest of team proceeds to fail miserably and all die to him
>proclaims himself to be " a god" in chat
>I tell him he's shit and he's fucked next round
>next round im against him again
>literally kill him without taking any damage
>"like so"
>he ragequits
>I finish my game
>join a new elimination in progress
>he's on the enemy team
>"oh look, another free win"
>he ragequits again as soon as he sees me, despite being on the "winning" team
>mfw I shit on a roach so hard he's scared of me
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>>169194465
WE
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>>169194419
>knights keep sending assest north instead of east
fucking dipshits
>>
>>169194176
cool, thanks anon
>>
Roman Legionnaires as Knights When?
Aztec Shorn Ones as Vikings When?
and Mughal Mansabdars
(or whatever their ranks) as Weaboos When?
>>
>tfw knight not deploying war assets to protect our stronghold because I'm too curious to see what happens if an enemy faction reaches it
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>>169194575
WUZ
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>>169193848
>>169194490
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>>169194575
ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS
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>>169194306
It's k. I guess I'm pushing it too hard too
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>>169194648
They auto get deployed everywhere.
If you want to see what happens. Deploy everything to North.
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>>169194603
the problem is that front is currently duel/brawl, which always get less assets put towards that front.
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>>169194710
>that webm
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>>169194564
>>be me
this is how i know the rest of your shit is a lie
>>
I'm literaly trash tier against a shugoki, what do i do ?
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>>169194414

i'd be fine with nerfs for either of them

most people complain about PK light attack spam, they could nerf the speed of those, but i think a better fix would be to speed up the guard stance changes of the slow characters

Wardens i don't really have any major issues with (i don't play Warden, but you're right in assuming that i play PK)
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>>169194810
But you can deploy your assets anywhere
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>>169194113
I want to fuck that bunny
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>>169194834
He tried to grab to save himself but he ledged himself
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>>169194834
He was fighting a stealthed PK
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Wow
I just beat Orochi as Conq
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>Parry Orochi into guard break
>N-NANI

This will never not be funny
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>>169194940
don't you get a bonus for deploying in the zone you're fighting in?
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>>169194973
wow you did your job as a hard counter good job dude
>>
naked peacekeeper mod when
>>
>still no patch
what the fuck is taking so long
>>
>>169179319
Fucking this,
A million times this.
>>
>>169191586
finish 10 matches (PVP) in any mode with a non-vanguard hero
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>>169194965
>hidden in the bush

that's kinda cute
>>
how do i beat orochi as peacekeeper?
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>>169194926
hit people with the big stick
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>>169195104
consoles
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>>169195024
The intro video prior to playing online didn't mention that
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>>169195024
Correct. If you play a game mode, and you deploy your war assets to a front in that same theater, your assets get a 20% bonus.
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>>169192778
>>Appolyon invades again
She's dead.
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>>169194896
>roach being a faggot
>lie
Roach/PK main detected
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>>169195119
Thank you, german bro.
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What can i do after a parry as a Kensei ? Heavy don't works, forward dash light don't work, guardbreak can be tech.
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>>169195137
tfw ill never hide in her bush
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>>169195197
Same, why can my guardbreak after parry be teched? Shoudl that happen?
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I thought about why knights keep having massive fluctuations in their territories.

Because of the massive playerbase of knights, the other factions get bonuses to their deployed assets to counter balance the knights. After most of the knight players go to sleep, the other factions still get their bonus but knights have no bonus to their assets, therefor the knights get steam rolled until the players come back from work/wake up.
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>>169195151
there's a lot of things in this game that are not explained
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>>169192334
>all the console faggots
Hey I'm a console fag and I'm a knight
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>>169192545
The vikings were winning the last turn of the open beta, but ubisoft didn't count it for one reason or another, and the Knights won, because the second to last turn had the knight controlling the most territory.
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>>169192038
a man of taste and minimalism
i like oyu
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>>169179319
>deploying assets against vikings when samurais are knocking on the door
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excuse me sir do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior kirito
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>>169195295
No the knights won the last turn and then for two hours the Vikings had a positive hold on the round that would have given them more land if the beta wasn't ending four hours before said round would finish
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>>169195265
It's actually because people who pick knights are bad at video games
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>>169195472
OUT OUT OUT
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>>169195265
Pfffthahah here's your (you)
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>>169195472
>the last line of defense is a fucking pond
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>>169193848
what is this supposed to mean?
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>>169195472
soon
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I apologize.
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>>169194535
do you mean level 108?
and if not, it's possible to get revenge that fast with level 18 gear?

I have 2 characters at rep 1 but their gear levels are still both below 10 as I'm waiting till rep 2 or 3 to open crates
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>>169195570
>>169195472
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>>169192162
>Atreides crest in blue
>Harkonnen in red

What the fuck is this bullshit? Fetch a truthsayer I want a goddamn explanation.
>>
>>169195489
That's exactly what I just said you fucking retard.

The FINAL turn of the beta, the vikings were in the lead, but ubisoft didn't count it. The SECOND TO LAST TURN, the Knights came in first place, so they ended up winning because ubisoft didn't count the very last turn.

Learn how to read.
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>>169195215
ill hide you in my bush
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>>169195490
That's not true, I just suck at everything but fps games. Yes I main PK
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>>169195570
>>169195656
Water kills anyone instantly upon contact in this game. I don't know what you're laughing at.
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>>169195681
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>>169188581
>Warlord
>Nobushi and Berserker
>>
what the fuck is the nani meme?
>>
>>169195489
>"the number is green so it doesn't count"

you know what the (+7) means right? it means, if that round had ended at that very moment, the vikings would have gained 7 territories.
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>>169195472
>kirito

wow... I wanted to go along and join the Samurai willingly, but if you all have such a bad taste... no way man
>>
>>169195489
Vikings had 24 territories before the beta ended, everyone else had less than that. Shut the fuck up faggot.
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>>169195146

deflect/parry their overhead spin lunge and the weeb jump-back-and-rush-forward shit

after that they only have the shitty zone attack that always comes from the right and crap side doge spin moves left

if you get entangled it's basically first one to land a light attack that has momentum, if he hits you, don't try to hit him back, whoever lands the first light attack can keep chaining until they get blocked

poke with your zone cancel and bait him into doing easily parried/deflected weeb shit
>>
Why isn't every single samurai focusing his resources in that one area next to the knight keep?
>>
How the fuck do I git gud with the emblem creator? I can't even make a right angle triangle.
>>
So how does deflecting actually work
It does not work by just dodging in parry window
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>>169195665
Knights won the final round. A round lasts 6 hours. When it ends territories are gained and lost.
Vikings were winning in two hours of meaningless play - they may not have even won the full round there were four hours left to go and everyone knew it wouldn't count anyway
>>
Anyone feel like the campaign should've been longer.

The build-up to everything felt lacking and even for a Ubisoft game no one seemed to actually develop as a character

Kinda weird complaint for a multi-player game desu but eh
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>when you can make people ragequit by your reputation level alone
>reputation privilege is real
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>>169194979
How has no one made an edit of the masked robber with the shotgun into Orochi
>>
>>169195238
>>169195197
I'm not 100% sure, but i believe that this:
>>169193553

works both ways. i.e. you have to parrry an opponent's light for a untechable GB
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>>169195909

gonna have to get some autism anon
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>>169196007
Yes, Ubisoft handed you the win on a silver platter. No one denies this.

None of the other beta's that had the faction war implemented did this, only the Open Beta did.

>kniggers
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>>169196014
>game has only been out for about a week and a half
>come across someone who is rep 3 or higher
>stay to get raped by said person that has way too much time on their hands

can't blame them
>>
>>169196014
What's the class?
>>
Is there any way to skip the intro movies?
>>
>>169196014
What class?
Also post your hours played pls
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>>169196014
> Of the ONE class

What were you playing Warden or something?
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>join duel because fuckin orders
>pk vs conq
>conq's name is jizrag
>lol.jpg
>dash stab, cut, cut, cut, dash, zone, cut, gb stab, kick dead
>jizrag has been replaced by a bot
>mfw
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>>169195985
Is good? I'm solo trying to figure out how to make my waifus cutie mark
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>>169177081
No. Dom vs ai. Complete a match in 5min
>>
>more and more nobushis keep popping up
>play berserker
>they constantly just taunt because they know a berserker can't fucking do anything against a nobushi that's not literally lobotomized

i usually am for the idea of hard counters, but there's hard counters and fucking ridiculous bullshit. this is fucking ridiculous bullshit. i mean, it's literally detrimental to actually parry her because you get put in such a bad position where you can't even fucking attack her anymore. you don't move forward to GB because of her spear - despite the fact that you can be literally in her face and parry, but because of how animations work, you still will be pushed as far as you can be from eachother.

I fucking hate Nobushi.
>>
>>169179710

Honestly I'm okay with the low count of players, it means more room for people fallowing "honor" and less room for baddies. People will start getting called out for their bullshit in the smaller community.
>>
>>169195985

practice against a lvl 1 bot, just deflect over and over again until you got the timing down

the real work comes vs. human opponents, you gotta have confidence and balls enough to deflect a move that will hit you hard if you miss (like zerker side spin, orochi overhead and rush etc.)
>>
>>169196014
>playing PK
>use the fire wing emote at the start of the match
>if I perfect them in the first round they always quit
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>>169196092
I don't even use the Emblem border it was clearly designed for Kangz
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>>169188051

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1l27ZBJP2v7
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>>169196208
Outskilled.
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>>169196241
>muh honor
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>>169196247
you can deflect overheads?
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>>169195630

Level 18 gear refers to the gear you need to get GR108. The weapon level is 18.
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>>169192038
Dat brand is shit m8.
>>
>>169196241
>>169179710
since fucking when is 30k online a low count?

y'all are trippin. Siege usually has 15-25k online and that game is considered really healthy
>>
>go into one last duel before I call it a night
>match up against a Conq, one of two classes I just can't deal with
>dude's a total bro
>we talk about each others' strengths and weaknesses after each round
>we 2 for 2, last match to decide all
>a tense exchange between a zerk and a conq
>back and forth plenty of times
>in the end, he gets me into a corner and beats me to a pulp
>we finish up by adding each other and talking about strats to face our own hero
>turns out he lives insanely close to me

Honestly, duels are the best for everything. It's relaxing even when you matchup against someone you can't deal with at all. I've made so many new friends like this and learned so much about the game too.
>>
>>169196346

There's literally nothing Skillful about Nobushi, she needs to be moved to easy desu.

Just because she has large combos doesn't mean she's a hard class to play if you don't have to land those combos to be succesful.
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Is there anything that can interrupt the Valk's full block shield bash and does it function as a forward guard while I'm using it?
>>
>>169188051
> Play faction game
> Don't get chuuni about your faction

It's like you don't know how to have fun
>>
Hey, I can't seem to land any of my lights as a PK

What's going on here? Am I just playing good people now?
>>
>>169196353

yeah man, i deflect PK/Valk/Orochi lunges all the time, you just dodge right into the attack
>>
When will the bridge map be removed?

>fight on the bridge
>first to unteched block wins

>fight in one of the tiny, tiny spaces on either end
>the one who chose to back off has a massive disadvantage
>crammed as fuck
>>
>>169192820
What are your full hockey's on your kbm?
I can't handle some things on it. Like doing a 180 makes me stop running usually.
>>
>>169195761
But the round didn't end! 2/3 of the round had yet to be played!
It wasn't the last round it was just a BS afterthought
>>
>>169196208
femzerker here

stay on your toes, keep moving and try to block her, her light combo isn't a problem; side attack her and block to fill your revenge: I don't usually like using that in 1vs1 but zerker has little other options, and against some players (not characters) it's the only thing we can do

I just hat to sit there during a nobushi execution, thinking this guy actually believe he's good when he's just poking me with a stick
>>
>>169196410
This is nice to hear.
>>
>>169195295
I didn't get anything for winning in the open beta. Was there supposed to be a reward?
>>
>>169196398
>since fucking when is 30k online a low count?
Since forever.
>Siege usually has 15-25k online and that game is considered really healthy
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>169196447

don't open up with light attacks, any good player can block the first one and respond, follow up with light attacks after a punish instead, and mix up your attack patterns
>>
>Knights keep sending resources North
>Vikniggers keep sending resources South
>weeb shitters using the power of weaponize autism among youth to take over all the lands
end times
>>
>>169196410
>Play Brawl
>Beat 2 dudes who're apparently premade
>They like my playstyle and add me on Uplay
>Sure why not
>They never talk to me again
Ok I guess
>>
>>169192038
How did get apple? I could use to make AJ's cutie mark
>>
>>169196291
> Omae wa shinderu

Kenshiro-sama sugoi
>>
>>169196481
Same for the japanese tower map
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>>169196208
use the quit to map feature, it's really nice Ubi decided to just leave it there for hard counters
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>>169196626
Same for 70% of the maps in the game desu

This game is fucking trash, it was fun for the first 10 hours or so when everything was new, but the more I play the more I noticed I'm annoyed five times as often as I'm having fun
>>
>>169192038
I still have no idea how you cunts do this shit. I've seen people with Kamina glasses and all that shit too and I'm looking at the symbols here and there's no fucking possible way to make that.
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>>169196626
>Japanese tower map
>My Kenseis nodachi is so big every hit scrapes the wall
>>
>>169196506

only thing i've changed on my KB/M is guardbreak from M3 to M4

ofc guard mode lock toggle is an absolute must, you don't want to have to hold down Ctrl the entire time

some older keyboards will seize up if you push too many buttons at once, but other than that i don't see why you'd have any issues doing 180's
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>>169196120
>>169196128
>>169196123
Nobushi
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>>169196527

Oh, I know how to fight her. I'm rep 6 with Berserker. But it's ridiculous how much more you have to try than any other class against that fucking cunt. Hell, against most classes you have to try so many fucking times harder than other classes. I don't know if that's a testament to the skill-ceiling of the class, or if they're just underpowered.
>>
>>169196593
I bet their spaghettis are just spilling out of their pockets anon. Try to hit them up, I'm sure they're up for partying.
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> this character is underplayed and secret sleeper OP:
Well?
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>>169196792
Shugoki
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>>169196626
>Japanese tower map
>Opponent is Shugoki
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>>169196007
>vikangz win closed beta because it ends before the next round resolves
>this is fine
>knights win open beta because it ends before the next round resolves
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>
New Thread:
>>169196853
>>169196853
>>169196853
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>>169179387
holy shit that was brutal

how long did it take you to get that good? i've been using the steam controller but i dont think i like it
>>
>>169196626
>>169196812
The vikang dock/cemetery is the worst map desu.
>Tiny fucking bridge
>half the characters can win just by doing a charge attack
>>
>>169196792

i don't think any char is sleeper OP, but i think Kensei is underrated

Warlord as well, to a lesser extent, most people have caught on by now, but there's still a lot of people that think Ubi "nerfed him into the ground" compared to beta, he's still a beast though
>>
>>169196763
Zerks deal a shitton of damage very quickly but their kit is tiny as fuck. In a way, they're a very balanced character but most will just cry about how much of a low tier hero they are because they can't block fast enough when we start chaining.
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>>169196792
Ledge Grunt
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>>169196385
How did you achieve it
>>
>>169196982
I legit want the jobber sword guys from campaign to be playable.
>>
>fighting zerker bots as Lawbringer

Sure is fair fighting against literal autistic spam at the speed of light.
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>>169192123
My diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
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POST MAIN EMBLEMS
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>>169196930
nah its not the same

zerker can get one hit but then you can block

you cant block at all vs pk
>>
>>169196554
lol steam's top played games list would like to have a word with you

also I play titanfall 2 which has an active playerbase of 1.5k-3k people and I never have to wait longer than 30 seconds to get into a match, so I really don't see how 30k makes a game dead or dying

maybe you're comparing it to console numbers but I don't really want to play with poor people so consolefag numbers are irrelevant
>>
>>169196917
I don't think Warlord is underrated at all.

There's very little most characters can do against a patient Warlord who A. refuses to attack first and B. is good at GB teching
>>
>>169197231
>steam

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>169197168
Yeah, I know. PK is shit easy tier with so many spammable shit. Zerks are actually well balanced and we need to adapt our tiny as fuck kit in order to deal with literally every other character. It's stressful as fuck but so goddamned worth it.
>>
>>169197467
oh okay, you're poor. i get it
>>
>>169197091
>fighting PK spaz players as Lawman

kill me
>>
>>169196432
>anything I'm too shit to play against takes no skill
Retards, I swear
>>
>>169197969

>Keeping range on someone is hard when you can dash from side to side or backwards with hardly an loss to Stamina.

I played it first, it's stupid fucking easy to play. Try Lawbringer please.
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>>169197969
being overpowered means that by default the character takes less effort to win with

>range
>can full combo kick and attack without being out of stamina
>strong zone attack that hits as hard as a heavy while being twice as fast and at double the range of other classes zones
>poison from 10 feet that amps damage
>out of range after parrying
>same health as assassins despite being less risky
>doesnt use assassin block
>longest range guard break
>can miss kick and attack before you can land a heavy as most classes including the relatively fast warlord

you know what im gonna just add all this shit to a notepad and paste it whenever some retard defends their noob class
>>
Do you lose out on EXP/coins if someone quits the last match of a dual after 3-0ing them? Why do people quit, does this not get registered as a loss for them?
>>
>>169188581
>Warden main
> Pretty much shit on everyone except
>A good lawbringer who bullies, conq who's good at guarding fucks me
>>
>the versus screen with 4 dudes on the left and 4 dudes on the right
>everything's ready, they all do their swinging animations
>these animations slow down before the climax
>animations slow down
>cloth physics don't
shit looks like they're slowing down to look cool thanks ubi
>>
>>169188581
>Kensei main
>Lose all the time to Warden for obvious reasons
>Lawbringer and Shugoki are freekill
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>>169198568
>you know what im gonna just add all this shit to a notepad and paste it whenever some retard defends their noob class
Please do, so we can continue to laugh at you
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>>169199339
theres no "we" fag

theres like 4 noobushi cucks on all /fhg/ as shown by various strawpolls
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>>169196872
>last round is taken into account
>this is fine
>last round isn't taken into account
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>169199405
There's a difference in playing a character and saying its not overpowered, you just suck
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>>169199550
not an argument etc
>>
>>169196385
holy fucking shit that's good. I know it's too diamonds, a black one inside a white line. but I never thought of using a black spearhead instead a red diamond, now I can't use it because I don't want to be unoriginal.
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tfw GOTT MIT UNS
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>>169196507
"the round didnt end!"

And? How does that make the 7 territories the vikings would have had any less relevant?
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>>169183591
私たちはエルサレムを取る
>>
>2v2 AI brawl
>Rank 3 raider and Warlord

Fuck this.
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>>169192123
I WANT HER TO BE MY WIFE
SOURCE
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>>169177325
I can do LB against Shugoki. I typically use the shove to break his hyper armor (yes, this means you'll eat a trade), but after that it's pretty easy to drain his stamina as fatboi gets winded easily. Once his armor is down you can straight up bully him and make sure he never has stamina again.
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>>169198747
Yeah, it's done by people who want big win percentages to show their friends.
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>>169184363
Holy shit it's a Lawbringer/Conqueror hybrid.
Today is great.
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>People bitching because you play Shugoki.
>People bitching about my prestige.
>People bitching about my gear level.
>People bitching about revenge one-shots
>People bitching about baseball-batting them off a cliff
>People bitching about ogre-hug
>People bitching about run knocking
>People bitching about the bug i don't abuse in any way.

Can someone send me some jars/cans/barrels so i can sell all this quality salt?
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>>169199782
>tiny armed orochi
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>>169202640
i love salt
i mean real salt
i just fucking munch on it
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>>169202640
It's fucking weird how Shugoki generates so much salt

He's not hard to fight at all
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>>169203051

Yeah i think it's mainly because people usually aren't careful or don't know how to properly fight him.

I'ts just getting really tiring when in every elimination/domination match when i end up winning in 1vs3 situation people get really angry. I don't even have any revenge gear. Shugoki's revenge damage is just so damn high and people ganking don't really understand to dodge it at all. Sometimes when i kill 3 guys with one revenge unblockable the chat gets so salty that dead sea tastes sweet in comparison.
>>
>>169203051

>>169203051

What do you main, out of curiosity? I main valk and Shugoki definitely require me to mix up how I play because my fast jabs don't interrupt and I have to time my shield crush to spear sweep without taking a strong hit.

I'm not complaining about them, but I won't say they're easy for me either.
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>>169203790
Kensei, he's one of the easiest classes for me alongside Orochi
>>
Is it just me or does the Lawbringer force you to play smart?
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