/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

first for gogem is jew bastard

What was that minecraft type strategy game with the puffy yellow guys?

Is unity better than unreal engine or should I use godot

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The Jam page for RUSH HOUR JAM is LIVE!

https://itch.io/jam/rush-hour-jam

Hope to see you there!

second for gogem is a blue collar criminal jew

>>169105927
That jam name is stupid.

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New Special

>>169105841
>is a jackhammer better than a bagger 288 or should i use a paintbrush?
Pick the right tool for the job.

>>169105841
What do you want to do?
UE4 is technically better but it's more complicated and kinda bloated, blueprints are easy to start with but a project can easily get unmanageable if you don't know what the fuck you are doing.

It's easier to get good results in Unity but the skill ceiling is lower.

I don't really know about Godot, it's relatively new and still in active development, I would prefer Unity over it since it's more "settled".

>>169105927
Why is it called rush hour jam with a photo of the movie rush hour when the theme has nothing to do with rushing hours or rush hour the movie?

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>when he says he uses blueprints in UE4

>>169105927
POST LOLI JAM IDEAS
...I mean, "rush hour jam" I deas.

>>169106313
Excusable if you have a good game to show for it. Like Wynn Dixie dev.

>>169105606
>What's a good way to get new ideas? It feels like I'm stuck and just thinking of the same ideas over and over again.
Entering a jam can help, if the theme restricts you enough to might think of something interesting. You could also try making games from genres you almost never play. For example I never play tower defense games, but I made one and got some ideas from it. Basically it makes you think of things your brain doesn't normally think of.

>>169106051
it isn't really obvious that she's in front of a computer

Can someone post a link to the video of the fiverr girls saying shit like "just like make game" and all that

If you can't get any good idea on your own, you should just acknowledge you'll never be anything more than a code monkey for somebody else's dream.

>>169106231
>the theme has nothing to do with rush hour the movie?
Just how the movie took an afroamerican comedian and a chinese martial arts expert and made them work together, you take two unrelated genres and make them work together.
Also "Take two unrelated game genres and make them work together jam" was too long

>>169106532
You have asked this in at least the last three threads.
Literally wasting days on something you could have googled in 5 seconds.

>>169106313
>blueprints can be converted into c++
>literally no disadvantageous to using them

>>169107038
t. blueprint "dev"

>>169106313
I'd rather use blueprints and dev than not use them and nodev.

>>169105927
>March 31st 2017 at 12:00 AM to April 16th 2017 at 12:00 AM
You posted too early, mate. Hype will die

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gota work on the animations some more

> A Harvest Moon type game where you play as a fruit or vegetable and need to grow humans to sell them off into slavery.

>>169107960
Go away Molydeux

>>169107960
I'm not into cripple porn, sorry.

>>169105927
This jam is stupid, it's way too broad.
At least with a theme you would think "what kind if game I can make that fits the theme?"
Now it's "What kind of game I can make that combines two genres that I also have to come up with?"

>>169107858
your game is super cool looking, i love it

>>169108085
thanks

>>169105927
>0 Joined
as expected.

>>169108057
This kind of post makes me think agdg just doesn't want to have fun jams.

>>169108057
>people with no imagination wanting to make games
I'll never understand this.

>>169108057
See >>169106582

>>169108454
>>169108504
>fun jam
>doesn't have a theme
What's the point then? Just make your own game.

>>169108454
Loli jam would be fun

>>169108454
Just nodevs being nodevs, they clearly aren't interested in anything related to having fun while making the game. They just vote for wathever they want to play at the moment.

If you can't come up with a loli jam idea that's not disgusting to you, you're just a bad dev with no creativity

>>169108674
>waah I can't make a generic platformer and just change the sprites to fill the theme, this jam requires creativity delete it

>>169108778
>Loli jam would be unfun
ftfy

>>169108249
no problem

>>169108881
See >>169108805

>>169108805
This

>>169108674
>fun jam
>you can do wathever you want, but have a loli in it.
What's the point then? Just make your own game.

>>169108938
your welcome

>>169108805
I can, I'll just make a fun game and download a loli off google and paste it in the game.
That doesn't make the jam idea not shit

>>169109156
You're uncreative. Checkmate.

>>169108805
I don't really care about the disgustiness of the theme but I just don't care about making a game about little girls.

>>169109210
>can't mix two genres
>calls anyone uncreative
>"Checkmate"
lmao

>the jam theme isn't shit, you're just uncreative!
let's hear your ideas then

Bad devs focus on creativity
Good devs focus on delivering

>>169109210
t. the guy that can't come with his own theme for a game.

>>169106582
>>169108454
>>169108504
The point of game jams is usually to give inspiration to those who want to make a game but don't have the creativity to whip up a "good" idea.

What is the point of joining a jam when it is essentially "Game Jam Jam! Make a game! Have fun!". Like fuck, if I wanted to literally just make any old game without direction, I wouldn't be looking at jams in the first place.

>>169108057 gets it

>>169109331
>can't make an original game with a loli in it
>calls others uncreative
lmao

in UE4 anim graphs, how can you set up a 'Any State' Transition like in Unity? I need it for a take damage animation, and I don't want to draw transition lines for every single animation. You can't transition between state machines as far as I know. And the "blend by bool" node does not work, because that blends instead of transitioning which means anim notifies still fire which fucks everything up.

Does UE4 seriously not have a 'Any State' Transition?

>>169109385
>The point of game jams is usually to give inspiration to those who want to make a game but don't have the creativity to whip up a "good" idea.
Your opinion.
For me the best part of a jam is making something new, a challenge. Because that's what I enjoy when making games, trying new stuff, learning stuff, doing something out of my comfort zone.
Go join loli jam, and I will join rush hour jam. Join both of them if you want. Problem solved.

>>169109442
see >>169109338

>>169109385
>The point of game jams is usually to give inspiration to those who want to make a game but don't have the creativity to whip up a "good" idea.
Exactly, combining two genres would help people get "good" ideas like patapon, or crypt of the necrodancer.

>What is the point of joining a jam when it is essentially "Game Jam Jam! Make a game! Have fun!".
>Like fuck, if I wanted to literally just make any old game without direction, I wouldn't be looking at jams in the first place.
Exactly, there's no point. That's why shit themes like "make a game but make sure to have a character in it" are shit.

>>>169108057 gets it
wait, you lost me

>>169105927
When I saw the picture I hoped we were doing a movie related jam.
Like a challenge to make a shitty box office movie game.

Imagine a rush hour rpg that's just an abridged version of the movie with hilarious stats and quotes from the movie.
Or just a mash up of different iconic scenes but each is its on genre of game. Like the eiffel tower scene is platform beat em up and there's like a frogger car part i don't fucking know
maybe a sex game part when you try to fuck that assassin girl but have to pass qtes
blah blah blah either way that'd be way more fun than this shit
maybe pick an easier movie

>>169109729
You're retarded.

>>169109732
or pick a tv show and we try to recreate our personal favorite episode as a video game

i'd have a fun time turning an episode of always sunny into a video game

>>169109732
>Pop Quiz with Jules & Vincent
I can dig it.

>>169109732
>>169109920
shit we could even abandon the original script
like game's set in a cinamic universe of the jams choice
man like imagine a short rpg set in the world of the invention of lying, fucking hilarious

>>169109852
Nice argument, man.

>>169110142
space jam game anyone?

>>169110184
Thanks. The whole idea of "hurr I'll take a game and stick the theme of the jam in it" is a meme and it's pretty much never been done.

The purpose of a game jam is to challenge the participants. The theme of the jam serves as a limitation, challenging participants to work around it.
The reason loli (and most "thematic" themes that are unrelated to programming) doesn't work well is because it doesn't limit you. You can take any existing game, stick a loli in it, and if fits the theme. Since the theme is not limiting, it is not challenging.
A platformer with a loli protagonist fits the theme.
A shooter with a loli protagonist fits the theme.
Tetris with the blocks being lolis fit the theme.
Telling people to "just be creative" is a poor excuse. It is like a racing track where the finish line is 1 meter away from the start. People would complain that it's too easy and you just go forward. Telling racers to be creative would be retarded, just because someone did a 360 before crossing the finish line wouldn't make the race track better, it'd only be improved by actually making it longer and adding turns.
The challenge should be the theme itself, not having a theme so broad that you have to create your own challenge around the theme.

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now thats more like it.

>>169109732
>>169110142

Look at it, agdg. This is what you could have had instead of threads full of shitposting about polls and lolis.

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Can I post progress now chinkmoot?

I made a game.

>>169110320
holy shit this delusion

>>169109362
im down for lena dunham jam desu

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Sketched out a cover image of some sort.

>>169110451
Make it so the player can draw the face

>>169110540
Prove it.

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>>169110509
>ljmg
>not jlmg

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>>169110320
>agdg complains that rush hour jam isn't broad enought to their taste
>next thread complains that rush hour jam is too broad for their taste

>>169110598
that the idea. i also gonna make then white, so the player can choose the color too.
and you can steal other people body textures

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>>169110637
That comes later, only tears now.

>>169110593
extremely gay

honestly it's nice except I wouldn't have done the mouse jumping thing on the right

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>>169110637

>>169110685
Wait are you telling me agdg is not one person? Hold the fuck up

>>169110554
why not Mongol/Burjat magic jam?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je41KU7lt8k

>>169110615
ok, let's consider waifu jam, an agdg jam very similar in concept to loli jam
Here's sidescroller but with waifu
https://itch.io/jam/wj2015/rate/25690
Here's first person shooter but with waifu
https://itch.io/jam/wj2015/rate/25826
Here's platformer but with waifu
https://itch.io/jam/wj2016/rate/69242

Here's your debunked "argument", in case you forgot it.
>The whole idea of "hurr I'll take a game and stick the theme of the jam in it" is a meme and it's pretty much never been done.
>>169110320

>>169110320
literally me, I slapped a skull sprite and haunted house sprite on my game and called it a halloween jam entry

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>>169110735
>you can steal other people body textures

>>169110938
>wants everyone to agree on a jam theme
>can't even agree on a reason to explain why a jam theme is not good

>>169110593
I agree with >>169110876

The mouse should have less of a lewd jumping pose, everything else looks pretty good though.

>>169111104
>4 examples out of 10+ jams we've had
Wow you sure got me
Also good job proving that they "took a random game and sticked the theme of the jam in it" instead of simply having an idea based on the theme.

>>169111104
>genre = game
you wot

Demo day is in less than two weeks.
Let's just make a list of themes agdg wants and have everyone who submits a demo vote on them.

>>169111381
>>169111402
where are your games?

> tfw you bitch endlessly at devs for not posting more progress but make the thread a scummy and awful place to be 100% of the time

>>169110593
You know what? Even if that ass is the gayest thing I've ever seen, I also see that a lot of hard work went into that cover. It has a good composition, and it has that Drew Struzan kind of movie poster feel, where the image alone tells a story and gives you a promise that there's hell of an experience and adventure waiting for you. Astonishing work!

>>169111491
See >>169110184

>>169111518
Why do you do that?

>>169111348
Seconding, it really sticks out

>>169111629
Thanks, it's pretty obvious people who want shit themes are nodevs.

>>169110593
Is he pointing a fingergun in my direction?

>>169111104
Exactly my point against it.
You can have a pong clone with a waifu and call it a day.
Was it creative?
Was it fun to make?
Was it challenging to make?
Can it be reskined and reused on another jam?

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>>169111518
Is recoloring UI progress?

>>169111734
Yeah, that must be it. It's not like devs want to make games with a theme. It's not like that's the point of a jam at all.

>>169111857
Holy shit you're really retarded.

>>169111859
>bandwidth and 0% clip into each other
Dropped.

How do I come up with with ideas?

>>169111491
>Let's just make a list of themes agdg wants and have everyone who submits a demo vote on them
I like this idea. All jams themes should be chosen that way. Only people who took part of the last jam or last demo day can vote or add a new theme idea to the list.

>>169111857
>Was it creative?
Maybe, ask the dev
>Was it fun to make?
Probably, otherwise he wouldn't have made it
>Was it challenging to make?
Ask the dev, maybe he was a beginner
>Can it be reskined and reused on another jam?
Any game can, but why should it?

>>169112045
>Only people who took part of the last jam

>demographics shift, people leave agdg, some don't want to participate in the current jam
>suddenly nobody is eligible for a vote

>>169112038
See >>169106582

>>169110876
>>169111348
>>169111656
I'll play around with other mouse poses, see how it goes.
>>169111529
Thanks! Hopefully it comes out alright whenever I get around to painting the thing.

>>169111985
Jokes on you, its a fake measurement :^)

>>169111913
>Holy shit you're really retarded.
Well I can't win against that amazing argument. I'll start working on my Loli pong.

>>169112158
Remember, you're here forever

>>169112231
Is the loli the pong or the ball?

>>169112231
As long as you have fun, that's fine by me.
If that's the only idea that comes to you, so be it.

>>169112186
Other than the suggestive mouse, it's a damn fine cover dude. Keep it up

>>169112231
Please do not steal my idea. I even call it RORIPON

>>169112158
>suddenly nobody is eligible for a vote
Only way that would happen is the last jam and the last demo day both had 0 submissions.
If that ever happened you could just choose a random theme from the list.

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should be relatively playable soon.

>>169112445
>people who were in the last Jam/DD can vote even if they're not going to enter this Jam
>people who are new to gamedev and want to participate can't vote the theme
Shit idea

>>169112045
Definitely needs votes based on demo day participation. If it was just the jam, then it'd be too insular, i.e. theme that half the general doesn't like, only the other half participates, since only that half participated they vote for another theme that the non-participants don't want again.

>>169112158
That is profusely circlejerky but I find it hard to oppose, given the magnitude of the shitposting.

What if we just alternate between mechanic jams and thematic jams
That seems to be the root of the argument

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How would you apply a pathfinding grid to terrain? As in, once I got my grid that A*/D*/flowfield/whatever pathfinds through, how do I dynamically tell it what cells of the grid are impassable?

Obviously for shit like objects (e.g. walls, boxes, rubble, whatever) I can just spheretrace on the centre of the grid cell. How do you deal with terrain stuff, like a steep cliff? Look at the heightmap, calculate the slope, and decide what slope angle is considered impassable?

Doing it by hand isn't really ideal I think.

>>169112490
> red cross
triggered

>>169112684
That's why I wrote
>Only people who took part of the last jam or last demo day can vote or add a new theme idea to the list.

>>169112648
New people just need to take part on a demo day or a jam and they will be able to vote for the next jam.
Nobody is forcing them to join a jam if they don't like the theme.
Is that, or relying on multiple polls with a lot of joke votes by people that aren't going to take part on the jam anyway like we are doing right now.
If you have a better idea, then share it.

>>169112648
>sit it out for a jam
>make a game for the chosen theme
>vote on the next one
amazing

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Concept art for a game im working on.

>>169112962
Yes. We should have 2-3 day long mechanic jams and longer theme jams. This is the perfect solution.

>>169113250
oddly adorable.

>>169112962
Have we ever had a mechanic jam?
Disincluding mecha jam for obvious reasons

>>169113016
your pathfinding grid is composed of nodes and edges, right?

then have an algorithm go through the edges and delete any edge which results in a too big change in altitude per one unit of distance

>>169113250
Not very original but appealing

>>169113250
P L U M P
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>>169113257
Totally agree with this.

>>169113339
I don't think so. That's why some devs want them in the first place.

>>169113257
I'm okay with this

>>169113250
gives off a big darkest dungeon vibe. what kind of game is it going to be?

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>>169110593
>fantastic art
>repulsive subject matter

why you do this

>>169113717
Guro is lovely

>>169112158
you are missing the
>or demo day
part where they can dev whatever they want anyway

A list of 10 themes gets compiled through polls, surveys whatever.
Then, one day, one of us sets up a livestream.
On this live stream, the host takes the list of themes and puts it in one of those sites that can reorder your strings in random order.
After 2-3 rerolls, the theme at number one is chosen for the jam.
This way nobody can say it's been rigged or anything.

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>>169113296
>>169113376
>>169113692

A slow paced 2D action exploration game

>>169110593
The mouse has a really exagerated jump, without looking as happy as the jump would suggest. And the right arm being downwards is weird. This of course assumes that the mouse is happy.
And the horse in the top left holds his axe a bit weirdly.

>>169110593
>bag of loot
>running toward pyramids
shoudln't be he running away with the loot?

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>>169113996
>Light female

Any more details? I love the art!

>>169113975
Dude the purpose of choosing a theme in which a big number of devs agree is to have a good participation on the jam, in quantity and quality, and to maximize the fune. Having a random jam would not be the same.

>>169114231
Maybe he felt bad and wanted to return it.

>>169114580
That's why you choose among 10 themes that have already been agreed on. This would be just to cut those down to 1.

Looks like someone put PRESSURE up on greenlight
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=864656542

>>169114580
better than having loli jam. loli/waifu etc jams are mistake

>>169113717
I like cute animal people.
>>169114231
Had to get change for the shops he runs inside the pyramids.

>>169114818
who

>>169113250
Cutethulu

>>169113996
it looks comfy. you definitely have the art to back it up. good luck!

>>169114818
Don't tell me you just now heard of Barotrauma.

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draw 2 circles

>>169115283
I think it's a /v/ meme.

We did have one guy who was doing something with a deep-sea submersible a while back, haven't seen him lately.

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>>169114554
Mc is a cute girl, similar to the light female, she uses eldritch powers to fight against the leaders of an underground city that want to awaken the old gods

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what is your choice dev music?

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>>169115556
process the rest of the fucking owl

>>169115369
Thanks anon! Aiming to have a prototype by the ende of next week, will post progress in the meantime

>>169115556
ARTISTS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>169116036
>Aiming to have a prototype by the ende of next week
hype

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>>169105593
>Trying to implement a way to make arrow strength build based on how long you hold down your left click
>But fucking apparently that's not simple task in GML since global variables are fucky and the arrow speed refuses to change from 0 after the instance is created when in reality it should already be created with the set left click duration speed.

>>169115918
>Open editor of choice
>Change background to black
>Change font color to neon green
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWCIac-ChsM

>>169116247
>using GML globals
laughing_girls.png

>>169116247
>global variables
just don't do that
don't
don't do global variables

make a controller object that stores all variables you want

and there's no reason why whatever you want to implement would even need a global variable or controller object


And don't make your game depend on load orders either, all variables you need should be initialized before any object even tries to do anything.

>>169105927
I don't know when this happened but I'm 100% in

>>169116247
>in Create
globalvar strength = 0;

>in Step

if (mb_left) {
global.strength += 1;
}

?

>>169116275
[clacks loudly on mechanical keyboard]

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>>169116046
artists just need to make better things with it than you and you're back where you started.

>>169116468
>>169116514

>>169116468
I was thinking about a controller object. It just seems like persistent objects would be a weird practice.

But I get what you're saying with your last line. I'll trying creating the object first, then setting arrow speed.

>>169116440
GML is weird senpai, I'm just trying to figure it out.

>>169116647
[tighten up the graphics on level 3]

>>169116247
Just don't actually create the arrow until you release button for firing and at that time do a with instance_create(x,y,arrow){pass variables based on length of time button was held, etc}

>>169116514
That's pretty much what I've been doing. And when creating the actual arrow it's supposed to set the move direction speed = to strength. But it's not working unfortunately.

>>169114848
There would still be a 1/10th chance of loli jam you post doesn't even make sense

>>169116761
Along with the general notion that globals are bad, yo, GML globals are especially bad because the way they are implemented is actually quite inefficient. Granted, you'll probably not make your first game so expensive as to notice this inefficiency, but still it's better practice to just not use globals at all if you can avoid it.

>>169116468
is there a reason I shouldn't use globals?

I'm using global variables for my particle system.

>>169116247
if(mouse) {
if (!object_exists(arrow) {
create arrow
}
arrow.force += 1;

}

if(mouse release) {
fire arrow
arrow.force = 0;
}

>>169116914
Alright then do something like having a strength variable on your player and upon creation (after the charging is done) put with instance_create(x,y,arrow){speed=other.strength;}

>>169117023
I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

>>169117105
>>169117137
Yeah, I'll jot these down and just mess with it later tonight. Thanks!

>>169115881
I love it! I hope you manage to get it done!

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Is character design gamedev? (I have a game that I'm building as I learn. Just making a little character to move around as).
He's a little dude made of fire. Not sure which design I like though - going for the 90s-Sega-cartoony-mascot vibe.

I posted this like two seconds ago with the wrong photo, sorry!

>>169117256
Bottom left with top left's scarf and a little less pudgy.

>>169117501
how do you import your drawings to a game engine?

how does that work

>>169117501
if you hold it up right i like the first one the best (bottom left if you look at it like you posted)

>>169117621
These are just sketches/doodles in my downtime. I'll either make a digital drawing or a pixel-sprite when I settle on a design.


>>169117568
I'll doodle that, cheers!

>>169117621
>what are concept drawings

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trying out different reaction times and engagement distances.

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Working on more UI stuff.
This warning needs something, but I don't know what.

>>169118529
more flashing

>>169118529
Kind of what >>169118691 said, but maybe not "flashing" as such.
Have the hexagons appear as solid white for a frame instead of slowly fading in, perhaps?

I'm not expert though. Hopefully someone can give you more detailed and helpful advice, but it already looks really good.

>>169118529
Hexes could flicker randomly and make the text switch from red to yellow or black, the problem is that the animation just stops midway through without enough fanfare.

That and audio is 80% of a game.

>>169118529
The EMERGENCY should just blink twice and then stay solid.

>>169110593

Shame to see such talent wasted on such an abonimation.

>>169119219
>Audio is 80% of a game.

tfw when you know nobody is gonna wait on the level selection screen just because the music is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTYhwDjIheA

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>>169118691
>>169118889
That's sort of how one of the earlier versions worked.

>>169119219
I'll try that. Gameplay is kind of really important to your game, though.

>>169119527
I'll mess with that and the other one. Maybe blink as it's changing colors?

>>169117023
What's the implementation under the hood like? Is it just an object that holds them all and generates get/set for all of them?

Any suggestions for how to make a Doom clone more interesting?

>>169120072
more flashing

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where's the recap gallery archive?

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I'm trying to improve my pixel red panda picture that I intend to use for my game dev social media accounts.

I posted it in here last night and a few of you pointed out that it looked to plain despite me rescriting myself to 32x32 and going for a minimalist aesthetic.

So I made as many improvements as I could, but I can't seem to get the tail right, I'm still working on it, though.

What do you guys think so far?

>>169120072
upgrade paths

>>169120072
Just mod Doom instead.

>>169119940
https://yal.cc/gamemaker-on-global-variables/
This is what I could find on it on the quick. Makes the distinction between global and globalvar only it seems.

>>169120251
Sorry, but no.
Gameplay looks like a sega genesis game.

>>169119940
>Also, never forget global variables in GM:Studio can't be deallocated, because you can't simply destroy the special instance global. So, make global as few variables as possible, or you'll be wasting memory space.

According to a post on stackexchange.

>>169120415
post you're game

what would you call a fantasy rpg football game where all important issues are decided with a ball rather than with a sword

>>169120251
side scrolling beatem up with locational damage, hell yeah

>>169120415
whats wrong with that?

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>>169120212
I'm not an artfag but I tried editing it a little bit.

>>169120307
>>169120476
This actually makes logical sense, for what they're supposed to be for. They're for shit that you'll need in every single room regardless of context, so it makes sense that they're always there and not able to be destroyed. Also using globalvar keyword is 4 plebz.

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I 3D modelled an ass

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tfw stealing textures like a madman

>>169120829
What is that an Irishman?

>>169120816
>They're for shit that you'll need in every single room regardless of context, so it makes sense that they're always there and not able to be destroyed.
Beginner's need to be discouraged though, else they'd handle player health or scores as globals. Neither variables are needed in the main menu or level select.

>>169121012
I don't recognize irish ass

>>169120901
have fun in the pokey faggot

>>169120646
thanks, I'm make it even more localized when i finally implement all the different attacks i have in mind, im thinking head, left/right arm, torso (maybe chest/gut separately), crotch, and legs

>>169120072
Loli Doom

>>169121063
Because it's so flat.

>>169121061
Yeah, it's hard to realize just how badly someone can fuck something up by being inexperienced when you yourself are no longer inexperienced.

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I didn't do much other than fixing some bugs so have this dumb pic instead.

In GM:S, is there any way whatsoever to guarantee that one set of objects has their step events before another set?

I want to have controller objects for each player, and the individual player objects poll their controller and react accordingly. It's pretty necessary to my game that they function this way.

But if, say, Player1's step occurs before Controller1's, Player1 will react to the inputs from last tick. One solution would be to have a script called by the player object do all the updating for the controller object, but that still doesn't solve every problem. For instance, if Player1 needs information about the inputs for Player3, but Player3 hasn't had its step yet, we still have issues.

I know this sounds like I'm overly complicating things, but for this game, these interactions are absolutely necessary.

To make matters worse, the Begin Step and End Step events have issues too. Begin Step occurs before input is grabbed, so it's useless to my controller objects. End Step occurs after objects are moved into new X and Y positions, so that's useless for my player objects.

What the fuck do I do here? If all of the controllers always occur before all of the players, I have no issues. But Gamemaker emphasizes all over their documentation that instances go in whatever order they damn well please.

Save me from this hell.

>>169121061
How do you transfer variables from room to room then?

>>169121346
Persistent objects.

>>169121174
Damn i already tried making it bigger. Gonna put some underwear on it eventually so I guess it could be just slightly smaller than it should.

>>169120720
Name one fighting game better on the genesis than the snes.

>>169121250
Pretty sure instance order does have a say in that.

>>169121250
Why two objects for each player tho?

>>169120642
this is important

>>169121403
Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure it's a beat-em-up. And Streets of Rage is at least as good as Double Dragon.

>>169121473
Blood Bowl

>>169105927
>RUSH HOUR JAM
wait what

>>169121586
theres no violence involved

>>169121250
you can change it, it's called script execution order
in unity

>>169121656
>no violence
Dropped.

>>169120642
fantasy football

>>169121716
i mean sure it can be violent and people can die but its not the focus
sports is

>>169121637
It's not as cool as it sounds.

>>169120174
Here are the steps:

>OP
>/agdg/ website
>Google Drive folder
>Recap

At this point, you have some of the recaps. But!

>_source
>Open link
>Magic happens

You are right on that part that the older recaps are not found on the links mentioned above, so here's this:
http://www.homph.com/recap/

>work on a game for a ~6 weeks
>suddenly lose motivation and do nothing for a week and a half
>starting working on the game slowly again
a-am I gonna make it

>>169121941
post progress, get showered in bracket you bracket and continue with boosted motivation power
then add discipline to the mix and you're are yesdev

start now

post progress

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>>169121941

>>169122049
>get showered in bracket you bracket
I wish

>>169122049
Then people would know who I am and know I'm a nodev. Although I never really got you in parenthesis anyway so i-it's ok

>>169122398
fuck off with your completely unnecessary shitposts then you living garbage
if you need someone to suck your cock for literal no reason go to /r9k/ or a subreddit of your choice or something

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Just a reminder:

Barkley, Shut up and Jam: Gaiden is so popular that the kickstarter for the sequel raised OVER $120,000.

Make whatever fucking game you want, and to hell with anyone who tells you it's stupid.

>tfw I tried out few game engines and when I realize how hard it is to make a game lose all motivation

>>169122795
meanwhile restricted-rps stays relatively unknown and financially unsuccessful

>>169122795
yes but that game was stupid with a purpose.
not stupid it's fucking stupid you idiot.

>>169122805
Guess gamedev is not for you.

>>169122805
iktf bro

>>169120901
Nice Minecraft with HD texture pack clone.

>>169122805
>make a game
>hard
lmao

>>169122795
It also comes from a different time. I'm sure any of the OG 200X free indie games would raise a fuckton in kikescammer

>>169122805
it's really not that hard.

getting to the top immediately is hard.
getting practice making simple shit and working up is easy.

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>>169122936

>>169121445
Can you elaborate?

>>169121460
It helps make my life easier when it comes to AI and maybe networking down the road. Every mob in the game is playable, so treating them all identically (as a Character object which polls a Controller object) allows me to swap things easily (Player-Controller object/CPU-Controller object/Player-Controller object that sends or receives inputs during online play/AI, etc). It's the only really easy way I've thought of to handle everything that I need it to do.

>>169121675
Not Unity, my dude.

>>169123279
>Can you elaborate?
Each room has an instance order when you inspect it in the room editor. This is the order in which all objects in that room will be handled. Pretty sure you can modify that via GML.

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>>169122049
I'm not the guy, but I have a cube which follows the mouse. Is working on the prototype progress?

>>169123279
The controller object should be manipulating the player object, there's no reason to wait for polling.

>>169123481
it's definitely progress but stuff barely beyond graphics programming tutorials is not going to capture our hearts just yet
keep going

>>169123481
It's progress, but it's not worth posting.
If you're using the engine I think you're using, it's even less worth posting
Congrats on making something though.

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So i just paid this dumbass $200 for concept art for my kangaroo game
I wait two weeks and i get this fucking shit in my email. He said he had 18 years of experience in art and character design

Is there any way i can get my money back if i already sent it

>>169123786
Pretty sure you are the dumbass, anon.

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>>169123786

>>169123786
Tip: Ask for advice before you fuck everything up, not afterwards

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>>169123786
god damn I hope this is real

>>169123786
No
Next time have a contract and don't pay in advance

>>169123786
Should have founded a LLC.

>>169123786
Please can I use this as my MC

>>169111859
Hey.

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>>169123928
Jokes on you I saved your pepe and added it to my collection.

Here have a pepe in return, its actually my rarest pepe since I'm feeling generous.

>>169124204
Thanks, doc.

Where do you even start when you're making a bigger game where the "core mechanic" IS the interaction of various mechanics? Like an RPG, for instance, or some kind of colony sim.

I've made pong. I've made a platformer, and a Tetris clone. I don't know what to do when I move on to bigger things, in terms of project structure.

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>>169123786
>paying in advance for art from an unknown quantity
>not charge-backing after you get nothing before the charge-back period ends
>trusting an art major

>>169124317
Start with a mechanic. Then do the other one. Then make them interact.

>>169124317
Build one mechanic at a time and overlap them later

>>169124317
For your particular case, software engineering.
i.e. start defining classes and how they're going to interact with each other, all in paper.

>>169123628
>>169123724
Thanks for the support, anons! I know it's not worthy of posting, since it does not even give a clue about the game play yet, but I haven't worked on anything for a long while and I just wanted to feel like a yesdev again. ;_;

I don't know what engine you are referring to, especially since I'm engine devving this thing.

>>169124262
I didn't even connect that pic to giving a dose until you mentioned it... You thought I was the doctor, but it was actually (you) all along.

Thanks, doc.

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Take note 2D guys. This is how you make sprites. Anything less is garbage.

>>169123786
put it on the boxart.

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>>169120829

>>169117501

Atleast rotate the fucking image before you post..

>>169124650
ah
I know an old engine which would have let you do that webm in a couple of seconds, that's why I was wary

>>169120901

Where did you find these?

>>169125207
pinterest + jDownloader

>>169124778
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/snk-files-for-bankruptcy

>>169123786
This is genuinely worse than that fucking meme cat that gets posted here. What the actual christ anon

You've been swindled harder than Googs trying to fuck people over with his silent auction.

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>>169124778
I'm not that good though... I'm only using non pixel 2d in order to cut dev time down. I'm actually researching art styles that slaveshop animators use in order to cut corners and make efficient animations/sketches that look "tabletop ready" for lack of a better term.

pic related. Looks good when your looking down on the model from a player view during a wargame because the visible portions are shaded acceptably and stuff is generally colored alright. But if you close in you can see they use a limited number of colors and don't actually color things like the face or tidbits or clothes and shit. Its all an illusion to produce passable results.

>>169125325
I hope you aren't planning to sell your game, anon.

>>169125390
which meme cat? there's like three or four of them.

>>169125470
obviously cAnus

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>>169125470

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>>169105927
>2 joined
See, this is why we should have Mecha Jam.

>>169125463
Oh but I am only going to use these as reference while I learn to make myown

>>169125737
we already had a mecha jam
it had 1 (ONE) mecha game

>>169125737
You can make a mecha jam page but you wont

>>169125960
That was Boat/Mecha, and it failed because it was held immediately after DD7.

>>169126236
If anyone was actually interested they could have asked for more time but they didn't

>>169126236
It could have been 6 mecha games though, but everyone chose to make boat games
and the mecha game was nothing but a proof of concept

I'm glad there's people around who want to have a mechanic themed jam, be it rush hour (which I don't fully like) or whatever they find better.

>>169124778
Why the hard black outline?

>>169126418
To isolate it from the background.

>>169126397
Actually I had an idea for a boat game and a mecha game. Because both were being discussed at the time. So I was prepared to enter both jams. But then the guy who made it decided to combine them. So I had to choose just one to complete for the jam.

>>169123786
Stealing this.

>>169126418
>>169126583
Lineweight would make it better

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Some light progress before I get started on the real progress (which will be enemies attacking and Dixie taking damage): Idle animations!

Like all her N64 forerunners, Dixie's got a bunch of idle animations that play if you go long enough without touching anything. Moving, pressing an action (any input but Pause, basically), or being in water/on a pole/on a rail/in the air will cancel the action and reset the timer.

Here's 3 of the animations I've done so far. You can't really tell because of the shards on her hand but Dixie throws scissors, rock, scissors, losing to rock, paper, and then winning to paper... but she cheats and throws rock on the third one and then sneakily extends it to scissors.

>>169126418
it's not even really black

Anyone know any tutorials or learning material to have a first/third person game where moving the first person view rotates the characters torso and such? But the third person model is hidden in first person like in most shooters?

What resources or tutorials do you recommend to do 2d or 3d art for your game

>>169127420
Cool, can you zoom in a bit?

Does anyone know of a method to make a path be a certain length to a destination? I know where the start and goal is, but if I want the path to be 10 rooms instead of the shortest 3 rooms?

>>169127640
It'll depend on the engine

>>169127687
Unfortunately no, there's not actually a way to zoom in.

Unless you mean "can I make it zoom in in-game", but still no, I don't wanna do that.

>>169127739
So it's like an A* path or something, but instead of finding the shortest path you want to find a longer path?

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Just a simple level to introduce a new obstacle

>>169127876
Unity, please.

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A loli game got on steam. We don't have to avoid loli jam now.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=837871749

>>169127897
>Unless you mean "can I make it zoom in in-game", but still no, I don't wanna do that.

Why?

>tfw you will never make an rpg game from scratch because it's too hard

"Wake up, you need to make money."

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You know what would be cool? /gmdg/ - Game Mod Development General. Sort of like aggydaggy but for people who don't want to make shit from scratch.

>>169128468
Thats not a bad idea. Just take the highest cost always. Thanks.

>>169130220
Go find the general for whatever game you want to mod, they usually have a few modders there.

>>169130349
Yeah but they're also filled with autismos who don't mod anything. I prefer my autismos to need to keep up the pretense of being productive.

>>169129649

You know it's good when the game feels like it has to justify itself to you.

>>169130446
/agdg/ is full of autismos who don't dev anything too. At least in your game's general you get the opinions of non-modders, and tips on what to do things for that particular game instead of general programming tips.
plus if it's a retro game it's probably on /vr/, which is best board

>>169130024
Because I feel it would be distracting. The idles are just there for fun, if they start manipulating your camera then you might find yourself frustrated because you were trying to look at something/wait for something/etc and the game started doing shit on its own.

It's important that none of the idles interferes with anything.

For my game inspired by Zoo Tycoon, does this seem like a reasonable order in which to do things?

>ability to place fences
>ability to place animals that can move around but only inside their enclosures (unless there's a gap in the fence)
>animals have needs that must be met
>visitors can come to park
>visitors have needs
>visitors more likely to come if the park is "better" based on certain criteria
>visitors bring in money
>shit costs money
>extra shit
Obviously keeping everything I intend to implement in mind from the beginning so it's all extensible and has room for the rest to be added.

>>169130969
yeah, it makes sense
go mak gam

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>>169130924
>/vr/
>best board
>not if you're in the doom general

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Partners in crime.

I need to finish up the big guy's texture.

>>169131263
So what're you making then?

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I added a small NPC spawner, before the NPC and the NPC spawner were the same thing and the NPC just changed how it was dependant on its NPC ID by pulling information from the DBC. Now the NPC Spawner handles creating the NPC and the NPC handles the rest.

This way if the NPC spawner fails for whatever reason it will just lead to the NPC failing to load rather then a buggy basic NPC standing in that NPC's place.

>>169129195
hi leo :3
I like the screenshake- rare occurrence when its used correctly.

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Made a sprite for the main character of my game

>>169131403
Nothing then, ok.

>>169130969
Sounds good. But you forgot the Big Splash Orca Show feature.

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>>169131559
Also, did an idle animation for her immedately after I woke up today.

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>>169129649
reminder: this is already on steam

how do I make sure my game runs at the same speed in diferent pc hardware?

>>169125390
>You've been swindled harder than Googs trying to fuck people over with his silent auction.
I'm so glad this is becoming a meme

>>169131747
Is she cold? Does she need Devo's warmth to survive?

>>169131910
Hey gogem aren't you a blue collar criminal now? You know because of the whole illegal gambling thing you did with Social Interaction Trainer?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/519930/discussions/0/217691032430905828/?ctp=10

I really admire your bravery to continue showing yourself in public