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>I could have 3 paladins for 1 green knight

GEE I WONDER WHAT PEOPLE WILL PICK

inb4 b8

>>169097293
Green knight, obviously.

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Reminder that Nippon(tm) is best race

What's Green Knight stats? Does he worth it?

>>169097760

That is actually really badass artwork.

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never forget

>>169097906
Average lord stats

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One day, right lads?

>>169098040
Shit, that's lame. I thought he can solo archeon

>>169098376

Fantasy is dead, anon. It's never coming back, not now or tomorrow, or ever.

Are fimir the faggots that reproduced via rape or am I thinking of something else?

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>>169098376
>cathay
>torii

>>169098376
>>169098507
Is Age of Shitmar flopping? If it is we might see old WH fantasy brought back, otherwise forget it.

>>169098482

Archaon is already a bitch compared to his tabletop/lore self, if the green knight could beat him I'd fucking pick up modding and fix it myself

>>169098507
Naw, you're correct. Fimir were one of the first unique races developed by Games Workshop, and they were pretty rapidly swept under the rug because, yeah, they reproduce entirely via rape. Most people have never heard of them, even the people that are active in the scene.

>>169098667

Even if it flopped, they wouldn't bring Fantasy back.

It's dead. Total Warhammer is the epitaph, that's why CA is putting so much effort into it.

The dev speaking has some real bitch tits, he looks like the type of guy that cries and has a micropenis

>>169098678
Just changing stat is super easy anon, just do it

>Not at the moment

Red Duke confirmed.

>>169098667
It's definitely not doing well, but GW will never backtrack on End Times so they're just going to steam right through all negative reception.

>>169098040
But he also has ethereal, causes terror, regen etc

>>169097760
>>169098376
The thing I dislike about the fan rulebooks are how cluttered and derivative they are.

Most of them suffer from being way too close to the source material: Nippon is just a bunch of vaguely historical japanese stuff with some mythological monsters thrown in here and there. Ind is just medieval India with a bunch of mythological monsters, Cathay is just medieval China etc. They also have way, way too many units with almost identical roles. It's some seriously radious-tier "everybody's gotta have everything and then some"

If GW or FW ever actually expanded on these faction, you'd bet that they'd get some original shit both lore and crunchwise. The two page description of a Cathay army in the Tamurkhan book had way more inventive shit than the entire Cathay fanbook.

Both Empire, Kislev and Bretonnia are obviously inspired by real world stuff, but they still have plenty of nuances and units that distinguish them from their real world source.

Archaon should win any 1v1 in the game, unfortunately he doesn't even if he costs a lot already

>>169098868
He has 40 armor
He gets rekt by magical attacks

What is Green Knight power level in the lore? Similar to Aborash?

>>169098805
As much as a different start pos for vamps would be nice I'm getting tired of them. Empire is in most need of a freshening up yet they're continuously left untouched.

>>169098667
Thanks to TWW warhammer fantasy is extremely popular now, more popular than it ever was
GW might regret for killing it right now

>>169098950

Depends on the author, as always.

>>169098376
I mean at least we are getting decent vidya in the mean time.

>>169099060
Yeah, TWW really was bad timing for GW trying to get AoS up and running

>>169098840
Except that one source that claimed it was doing 35% of GW's buisness right now.

profits went up during a time 40k was in a slump because AoS isn't doing badly. 95% of people who bitch about fantasy being dead never bought a single army book, let alone model.

Imagine being Vlad Von Carstein in Sylvania and having to be all like "damn, Isabella Von Carstein, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your undead body but obvious disinterest in me. I'm trying my hardest to please you and it's clearly not enough." when all he really wants is to force to elector counts of the various provinces of the Empire to bend knee to him. Like, seriously imagine having to be Vlad and not only sit in that throne while Isabella Von Carstein flaunts her hot body behind your back in multiple affairs, her lies barely concealing her treacherous acts and the marks of another lover on her skin and just sit there, war after war, hour after hour, trying to perfect your Necromancy. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous betrayals of your trust, but her haughty attitude as everyone in Sylvania tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, ISABELLA VON CARSTEIN LOOKS LIKE THAT?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and fake a happy marriage to an adulterous woman, each day bringing news of a new lover. You've been fucking nothing because you've been busy FORGING AN EMPIRE for her out of counties whose leaders allegedly "disappeared" for most of your undeath. You've never felt any betrayal this strongly before, and now you swear you can taste the sperm of another man splashed across those perfect tits she keeps barely concealed, smugly assured that you are too busy with your politicing to take advantage of her "chaste (for that is what she claims to be) beauty, the beauty she gained only because you deigned to give her the dark embrace. And then the count of Sylvania, Otto, calls for another proposal, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the Sylvanian security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Vlad von Carstein. You're not going to lose your future political career over this. Just bear it. You wish you could hide your face, but you bear it.

>>169099193
>95% of people who bitch about fantasy being dead never bought a single army book, let alone model.


I thought you didn't do statistics GW

>>169098950
Nobody really knows. Bretonnian fluff is patchy and inconsistent because they were literally untouched from 2004 to 2016.

>>169099060
Or, consider that TWW got made because GW killed fantasy as a mainstream game. They don't like close replications of the TT game get made. Then all of a sudden they let one happen just when they coincidentally get rid of it?

nah this is them saying "yeah cool, we're happy with you doing it cuz it's not a mainstay game anymore"

They might bring it back as a specialist game if it gets particularly popular, just write an alternative end to end times.

>>169099243

What went so wrong in your life, anon, that you can't stop yourself from inserting your cuckoldry fetish into everything?

>>169097760

> What is Shogun 2?
>>169098376
What the hell are nauticans?
>>169099243
Back to the coffin, Manfred

CHIVALRY IZ ALL!

>>169098950
He is one of best fighters in Old World, Abhorash swore allegiance to him.

>>169099243
Vlad von cuckstein

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>>169099707
>>169099243

t. Mannlet

>>169098950
Considering what happened in End Times if GW had updated Bretonnian fluff he might be on par with Tyrion.

>>169099649
>nauticans

99% sure they're the brainchild of one autistic neckbeard's fever dreams, but the fandex is of consistently high quality and gets lumped with Ind/Cathay/Nippon as a result. Development blog was last updated in 2012.

>>169098950
Green Knight is kind of hard to say. he can be beaten by Questing Knights, but that doesn't mean he fights at full power. Seeing how he is an immortal spirit demi-god, I doubt any Vampire is on a level with him in straight up combat.

>>169099193
>95% of people who bitch about fantasy being dead never bought a single army book, let alone model.
Nice market research redshirt

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Just got the humble bundle. Is there any way to get myself the DLCs for free with some good ol' piracy? I ain't paying 50 bucks

>>169100339
It's a random number nigga, but considering how many people bitch about it online you would expect that fantasy would have managed to not be a huge loss to produce. Unless of course you had a bunch of people who literally just downloaded army books and talked about it a bunch and never played the damn game.

And nigga I -know- what suffering feels like, I was a bretonnian player on TT.

>>169100442
You got the game for a fraction of the original cost but you're still too much of a jew to pay for DLC?

Fuck off asking for help then, fag.

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So apparently it's Dominae Vult and not Deus Vult for Bretonnia.

>>169100442
google creamapi

>>169100519
and fuck this guy, Sega's DLC practices are hebrew as fuck. Those DLC are twice as expensive as they should be, regardless of how much you got the game for.

>>169097921
How would you feel if I told you that was AoE 3 artwork and a fanmade armybooK?

>>169100582
Yeah it's scummy and jewish unless its completely free anon, fight the power, anarchy ftw xd

>>169100676
>twice as expensive
>LUL YOU WANT EVERYTHING FREE HUH?

Fuck off with your non-existent reading comprehension, faggot.

>>169100594

I know it's fanmade. And it being from AoE3 doesn't matter one bit. The art is still really good.

>>169098935
But his healthpool is decent though, around twice a banshee and a little higher than grimgor

>>169100761
Twice as expensive as what? Your arbitrary made up price-standard for DLC? Convenient of you to make the reasonable price half of what CA is asking, would be hard to make your retardedly shitty argument otherwise.

>>169100442
Just buy king and warlord and maybe wood elves.

>be my sister
>living in Brettonia
>large peasant community and population, causing all kinds of problems
>peasants are known for being hungry and desperate to break into houses
>sister is in bed one night and hears a noise
>smells a dark figure in the hallway
>thinks the figure probably has a knife and is just going to steal stuff so best to not draw attention
>peasant steals some stuff and then leaves
>only a few things are missing now
>lice combs are missing but the jewellery is still there
>dinner leftovers that were left on the table are missing
>one shoe(not the pair of shoes, literally just one solitary shoe) is now missing

Peasants are fucking dumb

>got game to do co-op campaign with friend
>but work takes a lot of my daily hours
>friend is unemployed
>already played more than 50h of the game
>over 60 achievements unlocked

Fucking how?

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>169100970
its not that hard , in my grand campaign as the empire i literraly unlocked 38% of achievements

>>169101081

It just seems weird. Are achievements that easily unlocked? They don't mean shit to me really, it's just... he's got more achievements than hours he's played.

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>>169100951

>deletes his post but doesn't bother spellchecking Bretonnia
>be my sister makes no fucking sense

You could have summarised that shit in like two or three meme-arrows, anon.

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NAGASH WHEN?

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Lizardmen when?

>>169101181
Feel free to upmeme it laddie.

>>169098039
hey thats me!

>>169100795
>aboriginals

Your edit needs some proofreading, lad.

>>169100919
>Twice as expensive as what? Your arbitrary made up price-standard for DLC?
As they are. I know reading comprehension is a skill you lack, but keep up, boy. Maybe if you stopped huffing paint, you'd have the braincells left to figure that out.

>Convenient of you to make the reasonable price half of what CA is asking, would be hard to make your retardedly shitty argument otherwise.
Because half of what they're asking for sounds reasonable, you fucking troglodyte. Of course that's "convenient" for my "shitty argument" that anyone who isn't a fucking Shekelstein would agree with.

There's your (you). Maybe now that your life goal of LE EBIN I WAS JUST PRETENDIN' TO BE RETARDED GOT EEEM has been fulfilled, you can kill yourself and let someone who isn't a fucking retard inhale the oxygen you're wasting.

>>169101248

I had no idea snakes hunted together like that.

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>>169101248
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FUCKING SNAKES HOLY SHIT?

>>169101489
Considering how triggered your faggot ass is getting over this it seems I was right. Maybe stop being such a whiny baby over DLC and find yourself a hobby that doesn't require you to spend your autismbux. You're a minority no one gives a fuck about. Go back to making negative reviews on steam instead you autistic manchild.

>>169101576
Are they actually hunting "together", or did they all just smell food? Snakes like, swallow their food whole right? Not exactly able to share.

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Updates on the deepest mod
>>169101763
>that pic

Got some heavy nostalgia right now.

>>169101763

Doesn't make sense though.

Lady of the Lake, i.e. that elf goddess, had a huge thing for preferring humans over elves.

>>169101162
A lot of them are things like build x building, or win 5 battles in campaign as this faction.

I have 91% of them unlocked, only reason i dont have 100% is because i cant stomach playing the Dwarfs for long enough to win a campaign.

>>169101856
This guy still adding stuff?

>>169101820
t. CA
Just because you can charge people outrageous prices doesn't mean you should

>>169101248

That documentary is goddamn awesome.

Shame about the sound effects they added. Feels like one of those shitty american shows where everyone is acting super dramatic and there's always some upbeat music. Like Ice Road Truckers. Jesus fuck what missed potential.

>>169101856
>>169101763

God fucking dammit I quoted the wrong post. It couldn't be worse.

Meant this>>169101625


>>169101927
Yes

>>169101823

But you saw the way more than one of them tried to wrap themselves around the lizard.

>>169101883

Fair enough. Most of his stuff seems to revolve around rushing to other places and razing the shit out of them, including those [Build up something in this and that province] kind of achievements.

Faggot's playing a lot on autoresolve, I'll never stop busting his balls for that.

>>169101763
I wish i'm the Elf

>>169101820
All of this projection. Nice to see you have nothing left to fall back on so you resort to y-your an au-au-autist, anon! g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-got eeem.
Also love the thought that you think i'm triggered, like I'm not sitting here smirking like my boy Vlad at how mad you are.

>>169101865
Okay EIDF.

>>169101986
>But you saw the way more than one of them tried to wrap themselves around the lizard.
Yeah bro, that's why I'm asking. Are they working together or competing.

>>169101823
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/planet-earth-2
>The snakes were even eating each other
>“Some of it was quite horrific. Because actually the snakes are not pack hunting – for the snakes, it’s very much every snake for themselves. We did see snakes eating other snakes and all fighting. We were like nah, that can’t go in. It’s too horrific!”

I think it's like sharks in the water, or americans in an all you can eat buffet.

>>169102109

How am I elf defense force for just pointing out that an elf goddess prefers humans over elves?

>>169102153

Dunno.

>>169102030
>n-n-no you
>I-I-I'm actually s-smirking
Newsflash, pricing doesn't bother me one bit. I have no reason to be mad, you do. Only digging yourself a deeper hole, as to be expected from autistic manbabies of course, but still. Could save yourself the embarrassment and stop posting.

>>169101823
>>169101576

They don't, no reptiles do. They're fucking retarded and are among the dumbest goddamn animals on the planet.

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>>169101763
reverse image search might need some tweaks, i can't say i remember this in the lineups

>>169102209
>>169101865

>had a huge thing for preferring humans over elves.

Now I know how /pol/ must feel when they see Blacked.

>>169102252
>They're fucking retarded

I heard crocodiles or whatever are the dumbest of them all

>>169102304

Maybe I should start watching Cartoon network again.

That said, elfs are not for raping because chivalry is all.

>>169102234
If you have no reason to be mad, you wouldn't have gotten your fuccboi panties in a bunch when someone else called out the DLC pricing. You were so mad you couldn't even read my posts correctly and assumed I though the DLC needed to be free. You just flew straight into an aspie rage and opened that reply box without a second thought or any sort of legitimate argument in mind. Maybe you should turn around and realize the only one who's an embarrassment here is you, mate.

>>169102378

I know AoS is shit and I don't like it, but I'm just using that to point out how she made sure that every Elf in the Old World stayed there to sacrifice themselves, die to the last fighting Chaos, so that the humans she chose would have some peace before Chaos came after them in the new world.

out of all of those i would say albion, chaos dwarves, kislev and norse are the most viable options, with maybe estalia and araby

>>169102176
Metal af

>>169100109
I think they're the "fishmen". They essentially used to be a meme when fantasy was alive.

>>169102497
this was meant for that >>169098376
but i'm reatrded so sorry about that

>>169102395

Problably.

Jurassic World was especially frustrating to watch because of this.

>>169102304
Nigga it's not even hard if you look on a booru with tags.
>>169102473
Chivalry is for knights. That's why the peasants are banging the elves.

>>169100484
The low sales were mostly because armies barely changed between editions and most people already had almost everything they needed. End Times actually boosted sales quite a lot, because they released a ot of new stuff that went ignored for decades or that was new and actually good and fun. That is, until everyone realized it's the end, which caused the sales to plummet.

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next thread should be named dropkick horsies fyi

also when is the red duke gonna be available, anyone know?

>>169102840
>also when is the red duke gonna be available, anyone know?

Never, ever.

>>169102480
Projecting your own insecurities again? Yeah you are an aspie, that much was obvious though since they're the only ones crying their eyes out over DLC. Top kek, faglord.

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Holy shit Kislev is cool!

I guess not all siege maps are shit.

>>169101976
Is that the BBC version? I don't remember any weird sound effects when watching it on TV.

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>>169101976
For you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umokxn3Vc38

>>169102834
If the only people you're selling to are the established fanbase then your product is already dead m8, it's just living on borrowed time.

>>169102893
>Projecting your own insecurities again?
>Stuttering in the last post
>aspie

You're just going to use all of my insults, aren't you? Should I write out the next two or three responses for you in advance so you have something to say? If you're going to defend the Hebrews, you should come up with some colorful banter on your own, anon, instead of just stealing from your betters.

Oh, be sure to call me a weeb or a newfag next. Maybe say I'm underaged and that's why I think my money has no real value. Throw in a :^) for good measure and you might actually be able to argue with the big boys someday on your own! I'll be so proud of my baby boy when that day comes.

>>169102914
in dee north, vee have cold heads for tinking

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>>169102914
>Sigmar's statue in Kislev

>>169102914
You guys think Kislev was cut content?

>>169103137
Sorry I don't waste time on autistic manbabies. You're used to that from your real life experiences though I'm sure. Enjoy formulating another autistic response you fucking loser lmao

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Anyone got these for the other factions?

>>169103302
>Fuck he got me good
>I can't think of anything else to say
>Oh, I got it, I'll tell him "lmao I'm too good for this" and bail, I'll seem like the bigger person!

Like a book.

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>>169103320
Dialogue isnt Skaven-ish enough
This is proper writing

>>169103243
really work my neurons too

>>169103625
Fantasy newfag here.
Does Kislev not like Sigmar? Aren't they a county of the Empire?

Again, Newfag, literally know nothing. Redpill me.

>>169102967

I fucking hate it when they do this. I want to admire the footage and camerawork and the animal in focus, BUT NO, HERE, HAVE SOME SHITTY MUSIC TO GET YOU HYPED UP.

>>169103739
kislev is its own nation , separated from the empire , while they are allied with them , they do not workship sigmar

>>169103542

>Mordheim

There are so many things I want changed in singleplayer.

>>169103862
Really? Which states are actually a part of the Empire? I know Reikland, since that's where Altdorf is, but I thought Weissenland, Talabecland, Averland, and the rest of those areas were also part of the empire in the same way Karak Kadrin and the Vaults are part of the dwarven empire.

>>169103986
Everyone except Kislev and Marienburg.

>>169102304
Google is currently the worst reverse image search service now. It basically looks for a word that matches your image and then shows you results as if you literally googled that word. In case of 2d porn, anime, manga, the word is always "cartoon" and cartoon network is the highest ranked result for searching for "cartoon".

Cool video on Lizardmen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArgCIDta6Lo

>>169104056
And Border Princes.

>>169103986

Tilea, Estalia, Border Princes and Kislev. They're all independent nations with their own culture.

CA really need to add unique stuff to differentiate them from the Empire. Can't imagine what it's like to jump into the game without any knowledge about the setting.

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>>169103739
They literally worship bears.
>>169103939
Aye, its 6/10 at best.

>>169104194
dont forget that the wastelands are independant too

>>169103108
Yeah, getting into fantasy was really fucking expensive compared to other tabletop games. Especially in 8th ed when you basically needed at least a 40-man unit for every regular infantry you wanted to field.

>>169104194
>Can't imagine what it's like to jump into the game without any knowledge about the setting.

It's actually not that bad.
In fact, this game and Vermintide have made me go out of my way to learn more about the setting. I really love the whole "winds of magic" thing and the fact that it's not just something boring like Fire/Water/Air/Earth and there's actual variation like Life/Beasts/Wild/Metal

>>169102967
>working that close with gorillas
Fuck that, too easy for them to kill you.

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>>169102914

How come my Kislev map has no snow??? I thought Warhammer didn't fucking have seasons

>>169104447
yeah this was honestly one of the key strangths of fantasy, and is also why all the kids play 40k instead.

You don't need to get your parents to pay over a hundred bongbux to have a decent game. 2 squads and an HQ choice is all you need.

>>169104319
not for long

>>169104590
Theres a documentary about that guy who lived next to bears for 20 years.
Random bear ate him.

Age of Sigmar > Fantasy

>>169104835

Yep, and got eaten by a bear he didn't even like. It's a incredibly fascinating documentary.

>>169105047
>>169104835
Grizzly bears or some other type?
If its a black bear I will be surprised

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>>169105025

>>169105025
i know its bait but , i like fantasy better , but that doesnt mean AOS is terrible , aos have some really nice stuff , but it still will be the weakest of the two settings

>>169105251
To be fair to it, it's the only really new look GW has tried in a long ass time and it's not bad, and the setting isn't fully developped at all yet. Lets be honest, no one here would care at all for what fantasy was like in it's first years.

>>169105208

Grizzly.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell

I've met plenty of brown bears and they're cowardly as fuck. Just raise your arms, make yourself look good, and shout at the top of your lungs against them. They'll run away immediately.

>>169105208
Brown bear mauled him and his gf to death on tape.

I know nothing about Age of Sigmar
Can someone tell me what it is and what specifically is wrong with it that makes everyone hate it

How's Man O' War? I like naval battles and enjoy both mordheim and blood bowl. My only proble is that its in early access and looks really unfinished

>>169105430
>brown
You meant to write black, right?

>>169105443

Well it's just the audio of the tape which has never been released to the public, but that's still pretty fucking creepy.

I want to die in Isabella's delicious thighs!

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>>169105567

>>169105464
GW decided to replace fantasy with it , instead of giving fantasy some proper closure and maybe adding content to the part of the world that had only one page of lore , they decided to rush the End Times and kill fantasy as soon as possible without releasing sigmar first to see if it would sell , so in the flash of an eye , years of lore and armies became worthless

>>169105479

It's in Early Access and it's unfinished.

>>169105515

Nah, I live in Sweden. Bears are shy as fuck up here. They put one of those beacons or transponder on a mother bear because they wanted to track her, and she avoided the crew like a freaking ninja.

Fuck boars though. Jesus Christ fuck boars.

>>169105430
I know yelling can work since the woods are quiet and they want to avoid a confrontation. Never heard about raising arms though except against black bears.

>>169105567
It's not like he's wrong
how can elves control your mine if there are no elves?

>>169105649
>>169105515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JON-BhsGk

>>169105612
>commit a heinous crime then give the Dwarves a false name
ABSOLUTELY DEVILISH

>Bretonnia can research technologies that make them immune from attrition.
>Immune to snow/badlands attrition
>Double xp from norscunts as well as added chivalry.

Gotta crusade.

>>169105645
Well Eurasian bears are generally smaller than NA ones, but I still would gtfo if it's a mother with cubs. Unlike black bears those browns do attack.

>>169105464
tl;dr they wanted to kill fantasy as a game and revamp the aesthetic in a lot of ways (and rename a bunch of things to trademark) while keeping some of the characters so they had a big event to send off WFB as we know it and a bunch of important lore characters are now gods that are fighting against the chaos gods on a much more even footing than they were before.

>>169105649
if it makes you look bigger/meaner, it's fair game

>>169106059
So it's basically powercreep shit to attract 40K autists?

>open attila
>look at unit rosters deciding who to play
>get bored
>quit

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>its a "crashing just as you win the battle" episode

>>169106346
Roll charts exist for a reason, anon. I can honestly say, hand on my heart, that each and every one of the best campaigns i've ever played came from be picking a faction at random and really embracing it.

>>169106419
the AI knows
it's been able to crash the game upon losing a battle since the original Shogun, it's its ultimate weapon against the player

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>>169106325

Yeah basically, all human factions were replaced with one not-spacemarines faction.

>>169105936

Depends where you live, yes, and mother bears tend to be a lot more aggressive because, duh, they're protecting their young.

Another great thing to do is to calmly talk to the fucker while backing away slowly. If they charge it's usually just to intimidate or to scare you away, that's when you start making yourself big and shout at it when close to confuse.

>>169106059
>>169106325

Nah, that sounds like bullshit. Fantasy didn't have any powercreep. They just wanted it dead and replaced because it sold poorly.

I am starting to enjoy the Dwarf units, but their early game roster is boring and their end game campaign is also dull and easy.

Is there anything that makes Dawi fun? They have the same problem as Chaos for me, fun roster and shit campaign.

>>169106325
kinda yes , its bassicly fantasy with units looking like they are out of 40K and dimentional/realms fights and all the different factions are now just put into two factions , the order and the chaos , but they are still some cool things

>>169106545
Massed artillery is the closest they get to being fun.
And Empire have better artillery and far more options.

>>169106325
Nah it's a whole revamp, the problem is that in fantasy the way it used to be was that Chaos was more this horde that would occasionally threaten the empire rather than in 40k where it's like "we are the inevitable doom of all!" so over the years they slowly shifted more towards that. And they wanted to create a whole new setting but keeping some of the familiarity so they decided to drop every macguffin to give everyone something of a payoff before they moved to another setting and to try and make it not so bad, a bunch of key figures got to be gods.

And proving that fantasy elves are better than 40k elves the second the elven gods woke up in the new universe they found and murdered the shit out of Slaneesh. Then the horned rat got to replace him but the other chaos gods aren't particularly happy about it.

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>>169106346

I don't know what it is but I can' fucking stand Attila. Everyone else loves it but it all just seems so drab and boring to me.

I grinded20 hours on it and I ended up not enjoying it very much though 10 of those hours are as White Huns and their gameplay is fucking no fun when you are fighting endless Sassanid stacks and are gimped by the shitty horde competition mechanic. It really kills me how everyone just ends up being assorted guys in chain mail, it's boring as fuck to me. I even like Rome 2 with DEI much better.

>>169106743
Its sad but you hit the nail on the head with that, Dwarf infantry is way to good too so you dont even need any micro.

>>169106529
There's not Sigmarine humans you know that right? they're an addition, and yes a pretty obvious "lets pander to the kids who like space marines" one, because space marines are really popular with kids who are, and always will be the most important demographic.

>>169106597
It's 3 overarching "factions" but they're factions like they were in warhammer, where sure the dwarfs high elves and empire are pretty tight... right up until chaos fucks off then they're back to shitflinging, except it's ramped up because you have things like Malekith trying to get along with Tyrion and Teclis.

>>169106792
The Eldar are fucking boring as shit in 40K, I don't know why anyone likes them

How are heroes in Warhammer? If you level them up enough, can they take on entire armies?

>>169107164
no, i tried with a maxed out gorebull. he died

>>169101625
Evidently there weren't enough

>>169107258
That's disappointing
As if the fact that you have to buy 500 DLCs to get the full game wasn't enough

>>169107334
>As if the fact that you have to buy 500 DLCs to get the full game wasn't enough
stop

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>>169107334

> Hero units don't make the entire rest of the game irrelevant
> That's disappointing

>>169107164

No, but they can hit hard as fuck. Gorebulls and Banshees are two of the strongest.

>>169107045

They could have at very least kept the names instead of not-dorfs or not-elfs. Orcs are now named orruks. Actually, no, they're two seperate species, I read that orcs are now weaker than normal orruks.

I fucking hate AoS with a passion.

>>169107093
I like the fact that they're hardcore vengeful fucks that operate according to super long term planning and won't let anyone get in the way of it.

Also the phoenix lords are p dope.

Have the DLCs ever been on significant discount?

I don't feel like paying nearly 60 euros for Beastmen and Wood Elves, not to mention the Warriors of Chaos and those 2 Legendary Lord packs.

>>169107509
>Banshees are of the strongest.
that surprised the hell out of me. i thought they'd be easy

>>169107398
Stop what?
>>169107492
If I spend 50 hours leveling up a hero I bloody well expect him to make the rest of the game irrelevant and have everything devolve into Hero vs Hero battles
Goddamn I miss King Arthur

>>169107661
>Hero units should be able to solo armies
have you ever played Warhammer? Let alone the tabletop.

>>169107661
>If I spend 50 hours leveling up a hero.

You don't. This is a total war game anyway.

>>169107720
To be fair, Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka in the 40k tabletop could wipe a board on his own before he got nerfed this last ed.
He's still dumbstrong though.

>>169107509
>They could have at very least kept the names instead of not-dorfs or not-elfs. Orcs are now named orruks. Actually, no, they're two seperate species, I read that orcs are now weaker than normal orruks.

yeah but it was a pretty clear move to try and trademark shit because they have realised that the odds are they're gonna be an IP company rather than a wargame company primarily in the coming years. It sucks but it is what it is and we may as well make the most of it. I personally think TWW would never have happened if they didn't kill it off and genuinely have high hopes that they'll let the setting develop in a different way to end times through video games and novels and shit (obviously they're not gonna be super keen on publishing WFB novels in the first couple of years of AoS but after that)

and nah they're just Orruks, it's just that there is an "orcy" version of sigmarines within them where they kill Chaos warriors, rip their armour off and reforge it to fit them with their bare hands.

>>169107720
Course not, but I highly doubt a TW game is 100% lore accurate anyway

>>169107661
mod their stats yourself then, give them 95% ward save and 99999999 hp, then furiously masturbate at the snorefest

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So that "Old world" campaign in the new menu got me thinking. What if CA will just make a "New world" campaign with Lustria, Naggaroth and Ulthian, and just slap "Overworld campaign" for those who own both games. Overworld would contain both regions, but watered down, with whole map shrinked, and only major players represented.

Call me cynical, but i won't belive that they'll just double the size of the current map in the expansion until i see that with my own eyes. Just think how many factions would be there, and how long waiting between turns will take. I think it's just too hard for CA to implement that. I hope i'm mistaken, but CA is known for cutting corners everywhere, so i remain unconvinced unill i get 100% confirmation.

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>13 years old HDD
>4 min loading
next level gayming

>>169107943
have you ever played Total War before? no such thing as heroes solo army in lore or TT or total war or anything beside your wet dream

>>169108117
S S D

N O W

>>169108007
The point is that heroes become powerful as fuck and just tear through armies but it's true for the enemy as well so those are the main point of battles
How am I the only person on this planet who liked King Arthur and remembers its mechanics fondly

>>169108148

Well, generals in older games got pretty damn close.

>>169107532
Don't think they ever had a discount.
Only buy the dlcs that you actually want to use. No need for Beastmemes unless you love horde mechanics and shitting angrily all over things, for example.

>>169108238
because the point is army battle, not two dudes duking it out while soldiers act as glorified background

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>>169108047
This map looks pretty reasonable. There probably won't be as many factions in the new world as in the old world, and they're still doing engine improvements. Turn times are much faster than they were in Atilla.

>>169108238
Total War clearly isn't the series for you

>>169108282
Generals aka LLs are still really good in TWW.

>>169108238
Shit taste to be honest.

>>169106529
From what I hear they're already making stormcast take a pretty dramatic turn away from being just spacemarines lore-wise.

They were always just heroes from the past thrust into robot bodies. But they've been expanding on the mortality of them, they're not robots at first but after they die and get reborn again they start to become more less "human" and this terrifies them to no end.

>>169108047

Didn't they say they wanted 16 factions in total?

>>169108463
Aren't they purportedly adding the Chaos Wastes in the third expansion?

>>169108505
Jumping to conclusions there m8, I've liked every TW game I ever played
Doesn't mean I can't wish for something more than another hammer & anvil game. What's the point of hero units if they're in effect glorified elephant units?

>>169108837
well you clearly are crazy enough to somehow think Karl Franz should solo entire armies of Halberd Chosen.

>>169108837
they don't have to solo whole army to be cool, awesome, gamechanging, tactical, strategical? what's so hard to get?

They're dope. Whilst they won't be able to take on the entire army they can modify the battle in so many little ways (Like magic, buffs, leadership bonuses) that they're far more valuable then any other general from any other total war game. They can take on a few stacks of units, and if they attack a unit after your main force and they don't draw focus they can really fuck things up, their weapon damage and all the modifiers available in campaign are put in place they can really change an army.

My favorite is Grombrindal. When he's maxed in campaign he gains +15% weapon damage alongside another +15% for greenskins weapon damage. At 500 strength a swing before modifiers, that shit is pretty powerful, especially against other lords (It's the second highest in the game I believe, after only Kholek) so when you have certain monsters that can't deal magic or armor piercing damage he can make a massive difference as he can cut through large units or massed infantry. I've had matches where he alone was responsible for stopping a chain rout and has caused multiple chain routs just from ability abuse.

>>169108117
>13 years old HDD
Need I remind you that drives failing is a question of "when" not "if"?

>>169109105
>>169109047
I was just asking, geez
>>169109213
Sounds cool

>want to play some Total Warhams
>still a week left before best faction gets here
What do, lads?

Which Attila DLCs are worth buying? And how often does it happen that a region gets razed? The idea of having to give up a part of my empire forever is making me nervous before I even buy the game.

>>169109416
I thought Lizardmen were arriving in several months, not a week. What happened?

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>>169109416
Play beastieboys, remove all uncloven, raze all cities and destroy all horde armies, but you can only have one (1) horde. If you need more men, get a brayheard you fucking casual.

>>169109416
Register for Total War™ Access™ so you only have to wait 6 days instead of 7.

Empire of sand, Charlimagne, last roman and blood
other faction are fine but only if u want to play specific

>>169109757
>forever
you can re-settle

>>169109848
>beastmemes
Haha no.
King and Warlord is the only dlc I own.

>>169110056
>>169109416
SETTLE GROODGES

>>169109757
All DLC is worth it. If you can't buy it all, make sure you get the ones which cultures you like.

The AI usually only razes if sacking is worthless. Even then it might just get its 200 gold and leave the region. The exception are the Huns when Attila arrives, they raze almost everything they touch. Even before, Huns and White Huns have a bigger chance of razing than other factions.


And you don't really lose a region forever. You can recolonize. Takes time and if an entire province is razed you lose a fertility point but it makes it hard, not impossible, to retake the region.

In fact, almost all WRE campaigns, unless you play your cards perfectly, are about abandoning settlements or let areas be razed, barely survive, then slowly reconquer the scorched earth you abandoned

>>169109959
mean for
>>169109757

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Vanguard-Hunters-Scouting-Party
>Sigmemerines have bolters now

tell me about the Ice Age in Attila
how the fuck do you prepare for it

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Hey guys, that image loading problem last night got me thinking about what we would do if 4chan ever went down permanently. Where would we migrate that would allow us to continue to have these sort of fast response conversations with images?

Are reddit and infinitychan the only options? I don't like the sound of r/total war... i bet they aren't as fun as you lot..

>>169109757
Slavs might be for you, they can recolonise razed areas for peanuts. But IMO the best DLC is the desert kingdoms. Has the advantage that the area of the world they're in tends not to get razed too badly (even the white huns seem less razing-happy than the normal huns).

The only one you really want to stay away from is the longbeards. They factions themselves aren't terrible, they're just stuck in a pretty boring part of the world (the AI factions nearby don't do much,) so you have to make your own fun.

>>169110145
>>169110053
>>169109959
I see, thanks
How long does it take for a province to become useful again once you resettle? I've just had flashbacks to M2, waiting 100 turns for a fucking castle to grow

>>169110056
Alright, alright, alright.
I got it.
Assuming "best faction" is Bretonnia like the elf-cock sucker I know you are, try this one;
Play Mannlette. Your goal is to raze the world. Destroy every settlement of every faction that isn't Vampire Cunts. You can only claim Sylvania, western and eastern. After that, everywhere you go, you must raze.

If you can confederate Mousillon, you can have their province, too. Force doesn't count, if you siege it, you raze it.

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>Knights errant
>Wow cool equipment and variety
>Knights of the realm/grail
>BUCKET HELMS EVERYWHERE
>CAPES
>FLAMING PENISES

And here I was thinking Bretonnia might be cool

>>169110373
>Mannlet razes the world in a fit of autistic rage over Isabella arriving and Vlad and her going off into their own faction
>YOU'RE NOT MY REAL MOMMY REEEEEEEE

I can see it

>>169110576
bucket helmets are cool, you pleb

>>169110278

>reddit
Not nearly as cancerous as you think it is. The "le" memes are long gone dead and was not nearly as prevalent as faggots wanted you to believe.
>infinitychan
I only visit few specific boards there, majority is just bloated trash.

>>169110373
>elf-cock sucker
I shall crusade on their dainty little asses in the name of my Lady!

>raze the world
That actually sounds oddly comfy, Manny aside. Wouldn't AI be hell-bent on resettling everything though?

>>169110373

That's a new low, even for Mannfred.

>>169110278
discord?

>>169110576
knights errant are literally guys wearing whatever they happen to own to go questing and fighting for glory. They're bound to be more hapdash.

>>169110373
can you sack and then raze?

>>169110702
>Not nearly as cancerous as you think it is. The "le" memes are long gone dead and was not nearly as prevalent as faggots wanted you to believe.

They were prevalent, but it was cherrypicking. Most of that cancerous shit is in r/spaceballs and other stupid fucking subreddits like that. Those are basically their version of /b/. Most subreddits are alright.

>>169110794
Yes. That's the challenge in it, you only get 2 provinces, 3 if you confederate Mousillon. You have to think ahead on where to strike, how to cut them off, etc. Otherwise they'll just resettle everything and ruin your hard work.

>>169110842
>new low
>implying >>169110610 isn't 100% right
I might make a Mannlet shitfest playthrough now.

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G O B L I N S

>>169110901

>They're bound to be more hapdash.

Did you literally make up a word

Also knights errant have better equipment than grail knights, since they're wearing more modern armor and helmets

What are the downsides of amber deficit on wood elves?

>>169110990
Yes, sack and raze is allowed, but to prevent sackfarming, you can only sack a city ONCE and you have to make it your priority to raze it asap. You can fuck off to deal with an army if you need to, but come back and raze the fucker. That way you can just sack altdorf over and over again when your shekels get low.

>>169111173
You die and lose. That's the downside

>>169111173
Units don't replenish. It's a pretty big deal.

>>169111115
It's warhammer, actual armour technology is not something they studied in depth.

And yes, I wanted something kinda like slapdash but with a bit of haphazard in it.

>>169111115
Most Grail Knights are hundreds of years old and mostly keep to themselves. No wonder their equipment is outdated

>>169111225
Not after the patch. A lot of shitters complained so they nerfed the debuff.

>>169111225
>>169111218

all units or just the units that use the amber?

>>169111005
>I might make a Mannlet shitfest playthrough now.

Interesting scenario, but you'll have trouble replenishing, so reach is going to be an issue.

>>169111362
Wait what? What did it change to?

>>169111386
All units.

>>169111386

All units.

Therefore, be careful when upgrading cities, since they eat amber. Confederating might also bring about a huge deficit.

>>169111507
something -15 to -5% replenishment.

>>169111597
I hate people. I swear, nobody should be allowed to give feedback on the game except me.

Which system of replenishment do you guys like most?
Having to move your army back into a castle that produces the unit and using up a recruitment slot to reinforce?
Automatic replenishment while you're in your own province?
Being able to replenish every unit in two turns as long as you pay for reinforcements in one of your provinces?
I dunno how the more modern games do it cause I haven't played them

>>169111758
Automatic replenishment is the least annoying, manual, paid replenishment is the most realistic

>>169111758
Automatic is infinitely superior. TW doesn't fit trying to be a logistics simulator.

>>169111830
automatic replenishment that takes a portion of your income for low tier units representing just picking them up from nearby towns and equipping them and going back and having elites replenish in one turn for a cost.

y/n?

>>169111758
Automatic replenishment. Realism is, in most circumstances, not fun. And not what Total War games are built around anyway. You want that, you play proper grand strategy.

>>169111597
Its hilariously stupid i was running a huge deficit with amber and didn't give a shit since -5 percent replenishment with wood elves is a joke.

>>169111934
I could deal with that
It would give you a reason to use cheap units while on campaign

>>169111597
>>169111982

That's... not much of a debuff.

Granted, the previous system was extremely harsh, but only a penalty to replenishment? That's pretty weak.

>>169111959
>>169111884
>>169111830
Honestly, I liked the way Empire did it. You can replenish as long as your units are standing around in your territory but you don't have to wait 15 turns for them to finish reinforcing
And it costs money so there's kind of a balance of whether you want a new unit or replenish an old one

>>169112114
>You can replenish as long as your units are standing around in your territory

Pretty sure you can replenish anyhere in vanilla Empire total war. As long as you have the money for it.

>>169112289
Yeah, I probably mixed it up with Shogun 2 in my head. That's a bit much then, your losses won't matter

>>169098376
>no pygmies

>>169111982

LMAO is this for real?

Anyone catch the part of the stream that suggested they reworked the siege system?

Can't remember the exact wording, but when they went to build a garrison the dev said that they can't show that new feature yet.

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EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtW6VoiZ1W8

>>169112619
yes

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>>169097760
>>169098894
>>169098654
Real Warhammer Nippon that never was:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B63rIuFhh29eZWNkMGIyMzEtYWViYi00M2Q4LWE5MjgtOGIyYTU1Njg2ZmIw/view

Also, the Cathay shit in the Tamurkhan book was partially just things hijacked from Japanese myth and put into not!China. Kind of odd.

Should I use the normal Demigryph knights or the ones with halberds?

>>169113017

normal

>>169113006

> Samurai Lord Mercenary Commander
> Mercenary Ninja Assassin

Is that you Radious?

>>169113017
Halberds. Use other cav for anti-infantry.

>>169111758
I prefer the old way of reinforcement, it actually forced you to use shitty units and AoR units, because you couldn't just replenish your super elites in 1-2 turns

>>169113017
Normal for anti infantry, halberds for enemy cav or monsters.

New to Attila, what does "food from storage" mean?
It doesn't seem to be adding to my food supplies and it's easier to build sanitation in other provinces

>>169113006

>kamikaze suicide squads

This shit wouldn't fly with today's morals.

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I want Tilea DLC.

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Would people like a mod that makes difference in units greater?

e.g.
>gobbos weaker than they are now but a lot cheaper
>orc boyz a little weaker, a little cheaper
>black orcs much stronger, much more expensive
>penalty for multiple commanders lessened

As example for orcs, other factions would have stuff fitting them. Force people to have more units and a higher percentage of normal troops as opposed to vanilla armies where the supposedly rare elites make up 50-75% of the army.

>>169113458
It's simply telling you that the building will always provide +XYZ food no matter the fertility of the province. Compare it to a farm, that gives you +ABC food from agriculture and a bonus +123 from regional fertility.

If you're in a province with awful fertility, or in the north and constantly getting bullied by harsh winters, consider focusing on the flat food storage buildings since they'll remain constant.

>>169113654
This would basically just make elites better with the economy being what it is. Usefulness doesn't really increase/decrease linearly with stats. I've tried some similar mods, and it ends with elites doing everything.

Do Warham's campaigns still mostly rely on you just mindlessly conquering the entire world like in previous games or do the different factions actually have different mechanics and goals?

>>169113994
>different factions actually have different mechanics and goals?
Yes, but you can still just mindlessly conquer.
There's quest battles in places on the map you go fight to progress your campaign's chapters. You can actually "beat" the campaign without conquering everyone. Like the beastieboys just need to conquer the empire and complete "fall of Man", but can do a "long campaign" and destroy the dawi too, which gives them the "long campaign" victory. They can keep going and destroy everything if they want, though.

>>169112731
I thought that was just because they had the option to build walls in Couronne, a faction capital (i.e. a settlement that will have a larger than normal basic garrison). And they were just suggesting that in the build we'll get in a week that option would be gone, as Couronne won't need it.

I guess we'll have to have a look on tomorrow's stream if they show the building browser for Bordeleaux, whether that looks like a normal major settlement with its extra garrison building or has something special going on.

>>169113994
There's quests now which are fun as fuck, and there's fuck tons more stuff to do in the campaign map now than just march armies. Mustering troops, ambushing, encamping, agents are more fun to play around with and there's a huge variety of them, and diplomacy is actually a big, complex, deep thing if you're a faction that needs to survive instead of the previous title's diplomacy which was "either war or no war"

>>169113982
>>169113654
I haven't played WH:TW but the Third Age mod for M2 tried to do the same, and it just ended up with you simply using the more elite units of the orcs because trying to spam cheap ones was practically pointless

Its just me or someone thinking like me but I cant bring myself into playing melee combat/battles era on Warscape engine. I love to play gunpowder era like Empire, Napoleon and FoTS on warscape but im always uninstalling Rome 2, Atilla or Shogun 2 after few hours. It just feel souless and bland.

I fucking totally love Medieval 2 or Rome and their battles but idk its just melee combat on warscape engine or games sucks after FoTS. Never tried warhammer, idk how it feels.

>>169113654
I would like a limit on elite units for the player and the AI

It would make the armies more diverse

>>169113982
>>169114273
>>169114642
Yeah if economic balancing does not do the trick, limits would be the way.

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>>169114620
>its just melee combat on warscape engine or games sucks
you fell victim to memes, its ok anon, happens to the best of us sometimes

>>169114620
You may actually like warhammer. They got rid of the synchronised one-on-one combat, (apart from a couple of special animations for heroes and monsters,) and went back to every soldier swinging their weapon at the enemy unit like in those older games.

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I NEED EMPIRE 2

FUCKING CA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXknALrHSfI&t=173s

>>169114620
Warhammer feels a lot better to me
Med 2 is still probably my favourite total war but there's a lot of clunkiness which isn't present in Warhammer

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>>169115073
History in history :DD
Fantasy rules

>>169115073
>History Channel inspired total war
>quests to locate relics so you can pawn them
>battles between groups who each want that storage locker because they're sure they can make a big profit on it

>>169115073
>next historical tw will be victoria tw

I'm so hype. You don't understand. I'm more excited than Empire and R2 combined.

Please don't be something else. Please don't be shit. Please, CA.

>>169115112
I just can't enjoy base Med 2. Strategic aspect is a complete joke with retarded AI and useless diplomacy, so the main draw is the battles but those are really clunky and bugged.
>Cavalry are supposed to be king on the battlefield yet you have to micromanage them and make sure they hae their lances out so they don't just meander up to the enemy with swords drawn
>Pikemen drop their pikes to pull out their shortswords
>pathfinding is ass and it feels more like your fighting your own troops to tell them what to do instead of the enemy
>charges being broken with sometimes just the front line charging while the rest of the unit just hangs around behind them

>>169115285
>the meme isn't even correct, as expected of fantasyfaggots I guess its meant to be the blood of the allies/friends/whatever of the guy making a point, remember that the original is the tree of liberty and blood of patriots

>>169115017
>he likes the shitty ETW, NTW, S2TW engine because of those shitty one-on-one animations and the clone soldiers

>>169115407
>alien faction
>Nazi faction
>Nazi alien faction

So is someone looking forward to this game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G0r4M-c3Lk

>>169115073
>>169115465
You can get some of your gunpowder fix in Darth's new game in the meantime. /shill

>>169115887
Is that the top down ACW strategy game that was making the rounds?

>>169115868
Not really. It doesn't look like actual gameplay, just put a shitton of soldiers on each side on some battlefield and watch them charge at each other.

>>>169108690
The very first books had them crying and going mad and basically showing how Sigmar fucked with traumatised warriors to create an army of hardened and disciplined warriors out of vengeful and hatefilled people with all their families tortured and dead.

They've always been deep, I don't understand where this criticism came from.

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>>169114908
Idk man i grow up with classic Medieval TW, i still miss that grim dark artstyle, Medieval 2 and rome was pretty good too but i think its not only battles and combat on new historical Total Wars, they missing something, warscape and colorful art desing just dont grab me on Attilla or Rome 2. As i see from screenshots, Warhammer might be catch that.

>>169115112
>>169115017
Too bad they went full jew with DLC's and im too poor for that shit.

>>169116014
>>169115887
Ultimate General is made by Darth? Cool

>>169115887
That's a great simulation, but not a very fun game.

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>>169116037
>i still miss that grim dark artstyle
so definitely a victim of memes, though at least you are not saying muh collision

>>169116037
So you dislike the new games that are barely mechanically different because of some imagined artstyle changes?

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>>169116014
Yes.

>>169116117
Among others

>>169116147
I think it's pretty fun, but I suppose I'm more interested than most and autistic enough to enjoy the logistics.

>>169116469
There's no way those tiny blocks have ~1500 individual units in them. This has already tingled my tisms in all the wrong ways.

>>169116646
They're not supposed to, they're just representative sprites after all.

>>169113551
funny enough japanese kamikaze is ok in most media , its only if they are middle eastern that you will get shit

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>>169116646
For all the people that bitch about WHFB being gone.

It is not.

I still have my rulebook.

And my army.

And a table to play on.

>>169115868
>"Yes, this is a game!"
The animations and environment was so life-like, I could hardly tell.

>>169116469
I've watched some gameplay videos of that and it definitely seemed fun as fuck but I have two questions:
Is it just me or are the casualties kinda low? From what I saw, two units of line infantry can be shooting at each other for 10 minutes and only lose 50 men each
How often do you run out of ammo? Towards the end of a batte, the guy I watched had usually completely emptied his supply wagons and just coasted by with the few units that still had some shots left by the end of a battle, which I'm not sure is realistic

>>169116646
>>169116747
Sorry I did not mean to respond to you.

>tfw no lizardmen
>tfw no lizardmen oc
>tfw i still can't tell the fucking chaosfags to get out of my world

>>169116747
Why does Karl Franz gotta be such a goody goody in a world of usually flawed personalities?

>>169116249
>>169116397
Probably muh nostagia but i love Empire and Napoopan or Fots, I need to try warhammer for what im missing on historical melee total wars.

Will using the creamapi thing to unlock warhammer dlc get me banned on steam?

>>169115868
That thing were you take control of a soldier directly was the closest this has gotten to being a proper game with actual player agency.

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>>169116935
But you can tell them to get the fuck out.


With Franz-Senpai

>>169116941
Conversely, why should everyone be flawed and insufferable? Not every leader has to be morally ambiguous or riddled with issues. Sometimes you can just have a good statesman and leave it at that.

>>169116747
It's weird, some people seem to need new shinies on a regular basis or they drift away from a wargame. To pick a tangential example, there's a game called dropzone commander that has a decent if unspectacular following. The company that makes it recently decided to make another game in the same universe, meaning dropzone releases stopped while they did a kickstarter, and in just 6 months there were reports of gaming clubs dropping dropzone as people weren't interested any more. They still had their armies and the rules, but for some reason didn't want to carry on playing without new stuff coming. Like I say, it's weird.

>>169116953
>love Fots but think Shogun 2 is worse than the old games
I don't get it. They're basically the same, you just hammer & anvil all day
That said, I can also play the gunpowder games way longer before I get bored, which I never understood

>>169116965
Game still very early in development, looks like it can be a fun sandbox

>>169117062
I use the Empire as a replacement in the meantime. But it's more fun to use bloated toads and angry dinosaur.

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>>169117108
Do you know what my AoS army has in it?

All my shit from my old dwarf gunline army.