/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #476

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Chloe is #1

>>169053791

>Throughout the game it was consistent so it just seemed to be the norm for that world.

Yeah but I live in the real world and have never heard anyone speak like that. It's just so silly. I laughed at the dialogue the entire way through game, but It didn't make me dislike the game. Part of the fun I think. It helps give the game some of its charm and character. The game would have been worse off if it was too serious.

>>169052221

I think first and foremost people shouldn't give each other too much shit over which ending they think is best, or any of the other choices for that matter. Its aggravating when the general is filled with walls of text of people shitting on each other. I'm not sure how much of it is intentional baiting, but its annoying regardless.

Both endings are flawed but fitting I think. The writing probably could have been better but we could play what-if all day. All we can really discuss is what we are left with in the end. And despite being flawed both endings represent the message of the game in different ways. The message being, in my opinion accepting your decisions.

>What are Max and Chloe doing these days?
They're living in their apartment in Seattle. Both have finished school. They're not far from Max's parents and only a few hours from Joyce and David in Arcadia Bay.
Max is doing freelance stuff and selling her photos/ entering them in contests and she is also getting hired by people for portraits, events, or whatever. Chloe's been waiting tables at a local diner (The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree) and has been looking at buying and fixing up an old muscle car.
Both of visit friends and family and go out on dates about once every week.

Can someone upload Pricefield.jpg with the accompanying text? I'm trying to but keep getting Error: Upload Failed.
Never seen that before.

>>169055565
I'm getting that too, so weird

>>169055630
Did someone add it to some kind of prohibited list and not allow it to be posted/ flag people trying to bans? I hope not.

>>169055565
what the fuck I can't post images as well

Image uploading is broken on all boards.

>>169055782
Okay. I'm getting it for other images as well. Seems to be an issue with 4chan itself.
I'll have to go see if other threads/boards are having this issue.

>>169055565
>>169055630
>>169055778
>>169055782
>>169055987
>>169056060

Hiromoot shuts down some of the servers for nighttime in NA, no worries.

Okay, imagine theres a picture here of Max and Chloe looking at each other in the pool.

It's very cute

>>169055782
Same...

>>169055246
>>What are Max and Chloe doing these days?

When Joyce and David are out of the house, we all know what Chloe and Max do.

Hop like rabbits!

Or maybe...
>Chloe and Max don't return to Arcadia Bay when Blackwell re-opens, but stay in Portland.
>Kate Marsh contacts Max when she doesn't come back.
>"I'm with my girlfriend in Portland."
>Kate spurns the devil worshiping hedonists.
>Without high school degrees, they don't find jobs.
>They end up living in Chloe's truck.
>After a few weeks in prison, they seek help from their parents.
>Max's parents, mad at her for wasting their money by ditching private school, won't let her stay with Chloe and bring her back to Seattle
>Max's parents blame Chloe for Max's bad behavior and prevent her from contacting Chloe
>Chloe is abandoned once again.
>Joyce, a conservative southern woman, and David, a traditional Republican, send Chloe to conversion therapy in return for paying her debts.
> Kate suggests a clinic run by her church.
> Chloe is raped by multiple male orderlies each day to ungay her.
> Max wakes up.
> "Wowsers. What a horrible dream. Good thing I sacrificed that blue haired dyke to save the town."
> Goes down the hall to suck Warren's morning wood.

Not sure which.

>>169056224
Even if I can't use an image I'll still call you a fucking retard.
Fucking retard!

>>169056117
I guess we all have to use our imagination now:)

>>169056098
Good to know it's not just us then. Still, wonder why he turned stuff off.
Hopefully some maintenance is just being done and it's not something that's going to become the norm. I haven't seen any announcements or news saying to expect this.

>>169056117
Wowsers that's cute. Also really gay.

>>169056309
>>169056117
You guys have no idea how much I hate the word ''imagination'' now

Here's a picture of Chloe wearing a rainbow shirt, and asking Max if it's the gayest she's ever looked, to which Max responds no.
Chloe, perplexed, asks what can be gayer than a rainbow, prompting Max to tug on her shirt and tell her to take it off and get on her bed to find out.
Chloe agrees that is much gayer and that Max should show her.

It is approximatly 80% cute and 20% lewd

>>169056395
>Wowsers that's cute. Also really gay.
"Hella gay, Maxine."
"Max. Never Maxine."
"Maximum gay."
"Wowsers, Chloe. You're such a d-dork--Hey! What's in my sui--OH GOD!"

>>169056449
I feel you. That word irks me now.

On another topic, is this the true way to reach 750 posts?

>>169056574
>On another topic, is this the true way to reach 750 posts?

Unfortunately, yes.

This is all Michel's fault.

>>169056861
Oh that mean old Michel. Torturing poor girls, causing a storm, and then blaming them for it.

>>169054759
To add: How the separate endings represent the game's theme of accepting your decisions.

Bae ending
>max sees that has she fucked up time and space
>she believes that to fuck around with her power anymore would be a bad idea
>she decides to allow the universe to destroy the town as revenge for her tomfoolery
>she accepts that she has killed many people for her own selfish reasons
>rideintothesunsettogether.jpg

Bay ending
>max sees that her time adventures have caused more bad than good
>she believes that she has to undo the damage she caused
>she decides to go back and never use her powers in the first place
>she accepts that she had to make a personal sacrifice in order for things to continue as they should
>sadmusic.mp3

These are the reasons why both endings make thematic sense and why I will always defend the bay ending as a good ending to the story.

Where the endings fall apart is when you begin to deconstruct the logic the of the game. The fact that time travel is involved opens up a whole can of worms regarding broken logic. Almost any story regarding time travel has plot holes in it, and I personally believe that to sit back and over-analyze the issues that time travel brings up is to miss the art in question. What this means for me is that I think it's better to take the endings at face value and see what the artist was trying to say rather than obsess over the actual logic that drove us to the end.

So in closing, I think both endings are fitting but flawed. It may be possible to write a better story but too much speculation is time wasting. And I think that to over analyze the time travel logic is counter productive. The endings should be taken at face value and extrapolated from, rather than trying to pick apart how the endings came to be.

I dont really know why I wrote all this, just sorting it out in my head I suppose. Does anyone agree with me? Am I a filthy baycuck or do I bring up some good points? Am I just talking to space?

>>169057354
>she decides to allow the universe to destroy the town as revenge for her tomfoolery
>she accepts that she has killed many people for her own selfish reasons
Oh that is such bullshit and you can shove it.

The Bae ending is Max coming to the conclusion that maybe she's responsible for the storm or maybe it's always been coming (As has been shown). Either way she's not going to find out.
Destroying the photo is not only sparing Chloe some kind of "fate" but sparing herself the question of if she could change it. She's decided regardless of the answer that Chloe is priceless to her and she's not letting her die. It's not dooming anyone else or allowing something bad to happen because she doesn't know what will happen. Things may turn out fine, or terrible, or anywhere in between, but Max and Chloe will face whatever future awaits them together

I never saw letting Chloe die as an acceptable ending (Even if it made logical sense, which is does not) to me it's admitting defeat and fault. It ends with Chloe dead and Max soon to follow.

>>169056117
>Okay, imagine theres a picture here of Max and Chloe looking at each other in the pool.
Now imagine the pool turning red, full of blood. Corpses, only Max can see, filling the pool. Chloe's completely oblivious to it all, bobbing up and down in the thick red crimson and laughing while splashing Max with it. Thinking it's all a joke when Max starts screaming, until she passes out and goes face down out of fear and shock. Max is going to have that nightmare every night.

I'm gonna sleep now guys, we can't post images but please don't let this thread die.
Thanks.

>>169058270
Maybe you'll have some nice images in your head as you dream.
Sleep tight, Anon.

>>169057840
I think you're misinterpreting me a bit. I agree with what you're saying. But...

>she accepts that she has killed many people for her own selfish reasons

and

>She's decided regardless of the answer that Chloe is priceless to her and she's not letting her die

are the same sentiment to me. A selfish action. She knows this storm is going to cause damage and that she may or may not have started it. She is choosing to accept that the storm is going to do its thing regardless of her own involvement because she is committed to Chloe. A completely acceptable decision and the one I chose on my first play.

The problem with this ending is how extreme the destruction of the town is. Poor writing to amp up the drama of the "EVIL SELFISH MAX". They don't even look for chloe's parents? David was in a literal bunker, and Blackwell is pretty much a bunker itself.

>>169058858
>extreme damage to the town
I see someone other than Michel has been using their imagination.

>>169059092
Isn't that the canon bae ending? I'm just going off what other anons have complained about regarding the damage to the town and the fact that Max and Chloe don't even bother trying to help.

>>169058858
That's the fault of the writers not explaining a thing. And I do not consider saving Chloe to be selfish.
Yes, Max has a strong interest and desire in keeping her alive but should Chloe die would anyone really be better off?
Chloe's mother and stepfather would be left with nothing and I don't think they would survive. Joyce already has depression issues, David PTSD, and they would never had had the chance to apologize to Chloe. All the people Max helped throughout the week lose the lessons they learned. Kate may still end up on that roof or in another perilous moment. Then there's the effects it would have on Max.
I stand by the idea that if Max was NOT supposed to save Chloe, she would never have gotten any power. To put her through everything and leave her with nothing is one of the cruelest things imaginable.

As for them not searching, again blame the writers/devs. There's plenty of potential explanations for how people in the town survived. And it's been said that perhaps Max and Chloe drive out of Arcadia Bay after a day or two when they already know who is in what condition (Nothing to support or disprove this).
So even if you're view on things is valid because everything is open to choice/thought, I find it to be very condescending towards those who saved Chloe (and rejected what the game was trying to hint, without offering evidence for) and unfairly harsh towards Max. Treating her as if she did do something wrong by unwillingly activating a power she never asked for.

>>169059279
The game clearly shows the damage done to the town and it is nowhere near the levels of some massive supertornado caused by messing with time.
It looks like a regular, naturally occurring, EF-2 or 3. They had every chance to show how many people died or what havoc occurred but they chose not to.

Dude, what the fuck? how come there's stil somebody keeping these up?

>>169059908
Our little community is very dedicated.

>>169059908
Cutepost-...
Oh god! We can't even do that! It's over! Everyone reach under your chairs and take your assigned cyanide capsules!

>>169060247
Do it faggt
DIE

>>169057354
JSYK, I picked bay in my first playthrough.

That said, even if you don't "deconstruct the logic the of the game" or try to "pick apart how the endings came to be" and just look at the endings thematically, bay is still a terrible ending because it goes against the main theme of the game: destiny.

Throughout the game, we've seen Max change the destiny of everyone around her all the time. She saves Chloe's life about 6 times (maybe more) and saves numerous other lives (or doesn't). She changes the personalities and relationships of her peers with every photojump or rewind. Basically, she changes fate all the time.

What's the one fate she can't change in every single episode? Arcadia Bay's destruction.

She:
>Has a vision about it in the very intro of the game before gaining her powers
>Jumps through multiple, vastly different timelines with all of them including the arriving storm
>Reads an email from Sean Prescott straight up saying the town is going to have "a fucking enema" and that it is it's destiny

If the idea of destiny being an unchangeable force were to apply to anything in the game, it's the storm.

So with nearly 4 episodes reinforcing the idea that the storm is coming friday and nothing Max does can stop it, ep5 comes along and infodumps the player that it's all their fault because they changed the timeline, and that it's actually CHLOE'S destiny to die in order for the storm to magically disappear.

Not even getting into the fact that Max can't undo her powers the way Bay shows it, Bay implies that it was Chloe's destiny to die all along because she dies so many times throughout the game, and that the storm is a result of Chaos Theory because Max unthreaded time. The theme of Chaos Theory does not apply to the storm at all and it's so fucking stupid.

It's a complete 180 from everything the game was building up to. Thematically, story-wise and logically. Bay is forced tragedy, it's not fitting at all, and it is heavily flawed.

Well, hi, you know me as Yuvna.
Yes yes yes, LiS was a very good game indeed.

>>169060405
literally who

>>169059537
>Yes, Max has a strong interest and desire in keeping her alive but should Chloe die would anyone really be better off?
Chloe's mother and stepfather would be left with nothing and I don't think they would survive. Joyce already has depression issues, David PTSD, and they would never had had the chance to apologize to Chloe. All the people Max helped throughout the week lose the lessons they learned. Kate may still end up on that roof or in another perilous moment. Then there's the effects it would have on Max.

I agree with all of this and this is why I will always choose bae. Not to mention how cruel it would be to Chloe herself. She would never get to see her best friend again, never make her peace with Frank or David, never get closure regarding Rachels disappearance, and she would die alone on a bathroom floor.

>I stand by the idea that if Max was NOT supposed to save Chloe, she would never have gotten any power. To put her through everything and leave her with nothing is one of the cruelest things imaginable.

I'm not really sure where I stand on the origin on Maxs powers, but I respect your interpretation, and realize that such an opinion probably influences the way you see the endings.

I'm not trying to come off condescending, I'm just trying to explain the way I see the endings. And I personally don't think it's fair to expect the bae ending to be without its emotional hangups. There has to be a consequence for choosing to save Chloe, and that consequence is admitting that maybe you could have prevented the storm. I'm not blaming anyone for their choices, and I'm not trying to paint my interpretation as the only correct one. I just dont have anyone to discuss this game with

>>169059634
Sloppy writing to play up the drama. Flaws, like I said, it just happens that this flaw causes a lot of division in the community.

do you think max made chloe quit smoking or did chloe make max pick up the habit because max is a beta

>>169060464
YES

>>169060504
i think chloe died, i fucking killed her
i like kate better

>>169060681
t.Jefferson

>>169060681
>i fucking killed her

You are not Max, though.

>>169060743
im nathan jefferson, your worst nightmare

>>169060795
baby, you're my dream :^)

>>169031801
>>169029924
I'd guess that most people who played on release day had been invested in the game for much longer than people who picked it up since and sped through all 5 episodes in a couple of days.
If you're more invested, you're more likely to think about the choice emotionally rather than as a basic trolley problem type dilemma (or just basing the choice off the conversation on the cliff). That's what caused the shift.

What the fuck why I can't post images

>>169060384
Regarding the tornado vision at the very beginning of the game. I'd consider that a premonition or a warning rather than proof of an event that is certain to happen.

Regarding the ever constant storm in the alternate timelines, I would say that the storm was constant in those timelines because Max and her time traveling abilities were constant in those time lines.

The Sean Prescott email, was in my opinion an intentional red herring. 1st playthrough I thought the missing girls were the result of some sort of cult. Kate mentioned being pricked in the neck (stealing virgins blood?), and there is a lot of native american "magic" around blackwell, spirit animals, totem poles, strange weather etc. So I think the email was to throw new players off the track of the actual issue and make us suspect the Prescotts even more.

So what I'm trying to say is, I dont really see the Storm as being an "unchangeable force" and because of that I think that the bay ending could totally reverse the storm and save the town.

I agree that Chaos Theory doesn't really make much sense in regards to the storm. But what we do know is that Max believes she may be responsible for the storm and she says so in Ep5.

See this is the meta problem in my opinion. The game has to make sense, but it also has to ignore some of the absurd logic that time travel brings along with it. At some point we have to decide what matters to the plot and what we are able to overlook. And no one will ever be able to agree on this matter.

After my 1st playthrough I thought a lot about the logical errors the game made and was upset about how they detracted from the endings being justified or making sense. But after going through the game a 2nd time I didn't have as much of an issue overlooking some of the minor details and focusing on the endings in a more thematic manner.

>>169060504
Chloe quit on her own. First because she doesn't have much money and she only want to spend on stuff she and Max absolutely need. As well as because she's living with the Caulfields for that time and won't want to intrude.
But as time goes on she will realize she doesn't need them. She'll feel better, breath clearer, and end up with more money than she had. It's a win/win

Chloe will approach Max and let her know she intends on quitting and ask for help. Max will ask how, and Chloe will say that in addition to the patches and gum that whenever she has a craving to smoke, Max just needs to kiss her. Fill that urge with something much more fulfilling. When Joyce and David learn Chloe quit smoking they will both be happy.

>>169062546
What kind of asshole gave Max a warning of something she allegedly causes before she even has a chance to cause it?
There has to be a reason and "so she could learn not to abandon friends" or '"So she could say goodbye" does not even scratch the surface of explaining or rationalizing it.

>>169062729
Thats a good question, and I don't know the answer. I'm not sure how or why Max got her powers. Maybe the force that gave Max her powers and the force that caused the Storm are different and are working against each other.

Where were you when cuteposting died

>>169063171
/lisg/ can survive without cuteposting, we just have to use our imagination.

>>169062991
If that's the case then I get the idea letting Chloe die was a ruse. Making Max think she was averting a tragedy while allowing an even bigger one will occur as a result of Chloe dying.
So Chloe is meant to survive, and the storm is just a hissyfit by whatever force/being is not getting their way. Maybe some part of the universe, maybe the Prescotts, maybe something unknown to everyone. In the end it's all a tiny thing and a storm is not the end of the world.

>>169038315
>Is she truly healed if she's never truly happy?
"truly healed" and "truly happy" are terms far too elusive to cause a paradox. Furthermore, the two aren't mutually exclusive. As you say,
>That conclusion, along with the events of the week, led to her epiphany and a change in character.
Her willingness to scarface herself, for the town or for Max, would show that she has healed and that she is happy because she is with Max. Or maybe not, again the terms "truly healed" and "truly happy" are too vague.

>>169063171
When the mist descends, and hope is gone
We'll freeze a dream
To last until another dawn

>>169063476
Now your using your ...noodle...

That's one interpretation. If we are saying that there are two forces at play I would argue one being Rachel trying to lead the girls on their investigation and the other being the universe reacting to time being distorted.

Forget the horror here

>>169064180
Life is Horror.

>>169063876
There was that one Prescott that died in the past and said he would take his vengeance. Maybe there's two conflicting spirits.
Henry Aaron Prescott, trying to destroy the town; and Rachel Amber, who because of the bloodath now has a tie to the land and is trying to protect it. But Rachel uses her status as a spirit/guardian to give Max the power to save Chloe and solve the mystery to expose Jefferson.
Meanwhile HA Prescott is trying to help his family gain total control of the town so nobody can challenge them.

They would succeed if the storm destroyed everything. However since Max and Chloe exposed Jefferson, Nathan, and by extension Sean, the Prescotts will never win their attempt to control the whole town. Instead they are disgraced and possible imprisoned. Rachel can rest peacefully know she helped (and played matchmaker) for her friend she lied to in life, that Frank now has closure, and that her death has been avenged.

>>169064180
Why was that song even on the soundtrack? It wasn't in the game or any of its trailers?
Maybe just some unused part from the Hospital ending or something.

Max is innocent and she did nothing wrong!

>>169064537
Truth!
It's hella unfair to criticize her with hindsight or outsider knowledge!

>>169064537
>what no one knew is that Max would later go on to use her time travel powers to rob liquor stores and gas stations

>>169062546
>Regarding the tornado vision, I'd consider that a premonition or a warning rather than proof of an event that is certain to happen.

She gets the exact date of the storm from her visions, that's incredibly concrete

>The Sean Prescott email, was in my opinion an intentional red herring

The trailer for ep4 has Nathan explicitly referring to the storm. The line is in the game files, the Prescott's absolutely had something to do with the storm (until ep5 erased it), all that other stuff about superstitious events are theories from side characters trying to make sense of the situation.

>I think that the bay ending could totally reverse the storm

By having Chloe die at a specific point in spacetime? Max can't undo her powers, so bay implies that Chloe has to die right then and there in the bathroom for the storm to disappear.

>she may be responsible for the storm and she says so in Ep5

She only derives this from Warren, a high schooler who just learned about time travel, and his OOC theory that time travel = chaos theory = max did the storm. That's the ONLY evidence to suggest Max's powers (not Max herself) is responsible for the storm.

Your asking us to forget everything in the game and look at the endings at "face value". Forgetting everything before ep5, forgetting that Max shouldn't be able to undo her powers, or that the storm should still come no matter what, or any of the game's logic and just going off of Warren's infodump, Max cannot be blamed for the storm at all. She didn't choose to change time, she didn't choose to summon a storm, but the moral of bay is pretty much, "you shouldn't fuck with time, you have to make a sacrifice, accept destiny and move on", and it proves this moral by forcing Max through a week of heartbreak, trauma, and disaster, just to blame it all on Max to prove a point? That's like killing a person with a gun, giving it to a kid, and telling the kid it's all their fault. It doesn't prove anything, it's lazy writing.

>>169064727
Max isn't that petty!

She would cheat the stock market and horse races, fuck those baby-killing yuppies, then she'd buy a luxury sailboat for her and Chloe and explore the world like pirates

>>169064727
Max only uses her powers for good!
Or when she or Chloe does something silly like spill a drink.
Or when she's bored and wants to rewind certain objects or freeze time to play with Chloe.
Or freeze time as Chloe enters their place so she can seemingly instantly strip herself and Chloe and create a romantic mood

>>169064860
>it's lazy writing

I'm not really arguing for either side in this beyond saying that we have two endings and they are what the writers gave us. The writers must of had some sort of artistic vision for what each ending represented and while they have flaws, the endings try to say something regarding the themes of the game: acceptance, destiny, and whatever else you see in the narrative.

All I'm trying to say here is that the meaning of the Bay ending shouldn't be discounted as "not making sense". LiS is more of a piece of literature than Sci-fi and focusing on the Sci-fi elements detracts from the art. The game and the writers IMO would rather we consider the themes of the game (and the endings) instead of the mechanics of time travel and superstorms.

I'm going to bed, it's been lovely talking to you all. Hopefully I didn't come off too pretentious and someone sees where I'm coming from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYiPcpE4MGA

>>169067669
>long haired Max
w2c those models

>>169067883
I dunno. Sbel lost everything he made :(
The models of older Max and Chloe, the custom maps, the first person and free-photo scripts. Everything.
It sucks.

Haven't been here in a while.

Is a new game coming out for this series prerty soon? Any good fan games/fiction come from this series I'd assume it has a lot of potential ?

this game fucking sucks

>>169068029
Not any time soon, maybe like a 1-2 year range?
Love is Strange is a visual novel and it is excellent.
There are also a number of great recommendations for fanfic in the OP.

>>169068029
For fan games, check out Love is Strange, it's a dating vn based on the game's characters

For fanfics, check the compilation, though the most discussed ones are Eternal Return, Better Then, and Ouroboros

>>169068184
Thanks for your opinion and bump :)

>>169068631
>>169068680
Is guide to sucking cocks a good read?

>>169068898
oh nvm no url
also hello anon on google doc :3

>>169068967
hallo :)

>Go into the fic recs
The fuck. I feel like David catching Max and Chloe swimming.
I'll just turn the other way and leave.

>>169069571
You don't say a word about what you saw, understand?

PM'd you $1000

>>169070106
Got it

Imagine there's a picture here with Kate hugging Alice drawn in a semi-chibi fashion.

It is substantially cute

Sometimes Chloe surprises Max with breakfast in bed.

Imagine there's a picture here with Michel's face photoshopped onto the BLACKED image meme.

It is an image of black humor, vengeance and defiance

>>169070963
C-cute!

[Image of Max and Chloe cuddling each other while sleeping]
Sleep tight /lisg/

Chloe deserves a long and happy life. Not to die in some bathroom floor killed by some psycho asshole.

I wish someone would write a good LiS vampire fic, not the edgy one we have now.

There are so many opportunities for a comfy story

>Max trying to convince David to invite her into Chloes house in the middle of the night
>Chloe covering Max in a blanket as they run her to class in the sunlight
>Chloe complaining about Max fucking up her sleep cycle
>Max casually drinking a squirrel while Chloe looks in disgust
>Max asking Chloe why she wears more chokers and turtleneck sweaters in 80 degree weather
>Max sweating profusely when Kate talks to her while wearing her cross
>Chloe and Max go coffin shopping as Max awkwardly tries each one like a bed, weirding out the store owner
>Max snuggling up to Chloe for warmth because she's cold blooded now
>Max missing when she had a pulse while she listens to Chloes heartbeat

Maybe throw in some drama regarding Rachel and the Prescotts and Jefferson being a vampire hunter to tie it all together

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>REMINDER THAT MARSHFIELD IS LOVE

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>>169078290
Reminder that Marshfield is canon.

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>>169054110
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

>>169078714
>They've both played lesbians in the past in small, independent films

It all has to be connected! Like chaos theory!

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>>169078714
Could Dayeanne be as cuddly as my Mama?

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>>169054154

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>>169079171
Why are you so mean to me and my family?

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Pics are back!

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>>169079403
You have to suffer in order to become a good person. And it is abundantly clear that neither you nor Kate are good people.
haha ;)

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BFFs, Pirates, Partners in Time & Crime & In Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

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>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

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>>169079695
DON'T YOU DARE TALK THAT WAY ABOUT MY MOMMY!

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>friendly reminder that turning off your game is the confirmed canon ending

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What did Luc mean by this?

>>169079997
This rabbit stuff is becoming mildly autistic.

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>>169079997

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Reminder that all the grills in lis will learn to get along in the end. :)

>>169081709
Except Victoria.
She's a cunt and no one likes her.

>>169081709
Max and Chloe left Arcadia Bay. They're not going to be in contact with Kate.

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>>169082352

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>>169082140
This. Victoria is just a bad person. She doesn't even accept responsibility for what happened to Kate.

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>>169082140
Victoria is the best character, especially with the interpretation that she's a needy closet-sub, who is continually antagonising Max hoping she'll turn around and dom the fuck out of her.

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>>169082647
She might think she wants that. But eventually she'll realize that the person who'd truly make her happy is someone warm and gentle.

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>>169082647
>she's a needy closet-sub, who is continually antagonising Max hoping she'll turn around and dom the fuck out of her.
This makes me moist.

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>>169082879
that's called aftercare

>>169079864
At the end of the adventure Alice is forced to make a binary choice: live in a world where bunnies eat no carrots or Lisa dies after Max and Warren fuck on top of her then Frank spills beans on her leaves when he gets a turn while Chloe's tears salinate the soil, destroying her chances of regermination.

>>169082647
>>169082985
strongly relevant fic:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/4387484?view_adult=true

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>>169083091
Sod off Michel.

>>169054110
Is there still content being released for this game or something?

I have nothing against the game, but I was under the impression that it was a linear single player story-focused game so I don't understand how there are still generals for it

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>>169085889
The characters are deeply human and lovable. The art is gorgeous. The gameplay is hella immersive and it's by far one of the most emotional and comfy things many of us have ever played.

>>169086197
I understand that, but don't you run out of things to post about eventually?

>>169036337
>the only way she let her past define her.
I'm not necessarily saying it was the only way in which it could be argued she let it define her. Just that in my interpretation, reaching out is the only thing that could have actually helped her become better, and as such is the only relevant way in which her not being able to jump over her shadow kept her in the dark spot she found herself in.

But again, I do not blame her for it. I really don't think having a past like she had affect you to the extent it did her is something you can say the person could have just not done. Maybe to an extent, but then I'd only reiterate that I do think she did handle it well. Simba had his father die, but Chloe had that, her best friend leave, her pet die, a militaristic, insensitive step-father forced into her life. I don't blame her for not attaining a true Hakuna Matata. I'm proud of her for keeping her will to happiness and love and hope and inner core alive through all that, as well as not being nearly as (self-)destructive as countless young people end up becoming with infinitely less pain in their lives. Some just for fun.

>more so than refining my Lion King parallel really deserved
Well, it transcends the Lion King parallels in that it's obviously about an important aspect of her character.

I do think the selfish to selfless arc has merit, but Chloe was never defined as a selfish person. Well, of course she was self-centered, in a way - but a natural way, one of coping mechanisms and emotional damage and traumas. With Max, we see from the very beginning that Chloe is not a selfish person. She also admitted long before the ending that she doesn't really hate Arcadia. Then again, she is also not really guilt-tripping Max, so I'd say the intensity of these arcs is about equal.

Different readings are possible, the context you see is not invalid; I obviously put foremost emphasis on their relationship, and so I see the ending also above all in that context.

>>169086857
We can't let go.

>>169085889
>Is there still content being released for this game or something?

We have no doubt that they'll release Season 2, even if it take some time.

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>>169063582
>Her willingness to scarface herself, for the town or for Max, would show that she has healed and that she is happy because she is with Max.
This is important.

Her character development and whatever arc one sees in it, is concluded in her willingness to sacrifice herself. The actual sacrifice is not needed for the character or narrative. The actual sacrifice is the opposite of character growth and development and arc - it's regression in most of every sense, in the most literal one. So even if someone does think her sacrifice is fitting for character and narrative (I very much don't), that message is already conveyed in her willingness to make the sacrifice.

>>169086857
Well, as you can see, we have not yet run out. Then we'd not exist anymore.

There is still content being released. Fanworks of all kinds. New people pick the game up all the time, some of them end up here. For some, it's still interesting to talk about the game after all this time. Sometimes, there's even new things we discover about it. Most of the time, it's just comfortable and familiar to be here. Above all, people love the characters and care about them enough to want to keep them alive.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKnlhL97rs

Eternal Roadtrip

>>169090073
Chloe has a quiet protective aura in this picture.

>>169085889
>I don't understand how there are still generals for it

I have the same thoughts about Undertale and Katawa Shoujo.

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https://youtu.be/7TOxO0TD3Xk?t=22m1s

I would look into Kate's eyes for an eternity if only I could.

Especially if the soundtrack was playing in the background.

>>169091560
I would look into Chloe's eyes for an eternity.

Deep, pained, with so much character.

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>>169094212
CUTE

>>169094245
DELET

Hey /lisg/ rain water got into my modem and now my Internet is down... and now I'm down

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>>169094554
That is not good.

We'll be here when you wake up.

>>169079742
I'm glad someone posted this once it was possible.

>>169080786
Standard NDA for someone making/testing a game. No announcements until they are ready to be made publicly.
I think it's safe to say S2 is in some form of planning and development by now.

>>169096812
Looks comfy. For some reason Max's simple expression makes me laugh.
Like Chloe's already awake and just laying there but she hears Max occasionally snore or mumble in her sleep.

Chloe is cute

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>>169101838
Max, you are daydreaming again!

>>169101838
Chloe is BEAUTIFUL, not cute.

Max is pretty and cute.

Kate is pretty and cute.

Victoria is beautiful.

Brooke is adorkable, and beautiful.

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>>169102103
Can you blame her?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zQtYmFCb0

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>>169103716
Nope.

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BONGO

>>169106678
Chloe really is beautiful...
I'm sure she does the same, daydreaming of Max, when she's supposed to focusing on something else. Like she's at work and she kind of spaces out for a few seconds thinking her GF.

How is the Director's commentary? Should I download it?

>>169109031
Pretty sure it's just a bunch of stuff heard already or making excuses for inconsistencies.
>We're not going to explain why Max's first rewind moved her back in time as well.

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>>169109031
haha :)

>>169109173
>>169109229
Well at least they are admitting it, that part was essentially a tutorial.

Is there no substance to it at all? There must be something worth listening to on there?

>>169109229
>We don't have a good reason for how her power did this so you should just ignore it
>But her power *totally* caused the storm (on one specific use) and you shouldn't question it

>>169109459
I think if you're a hardcore fan of the game, it's definitely worth the watch. I mean, it's an hour of info on all kinds of things.

No big revelation or anything, but some of their thoughts.

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>>169113180
Chloe, behave and let Max take a nice photo

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Watch Max work her magic

I want to go to a gallery exhibit of Max's work and meet her and Chloe!

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>>169116982
So do I!

I want to punch Warryn in the face!

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>>169119509
Chloe, chill.

>>169119509
Pretty harsh, don't think he's done anything to deserve physical pain

>>169120740
He spys on max while shes undressed in her room in ep2

Hes a serial killer in the making

>>169121210
He couldn't see into her room from that angle, only if the light was one or if she was looking out the window. Yeah he was waiting for her to come out to talk to her, it's awkward, but he wasn't spying or peeping on her.

>>169117924
I'd get a photo with the both of them, ask them to sign my copy of Max's book, and then tell them how inspirational they are

>tfw photography student
>tfw the game reminds you that you're not in a prestigious art school
>tfw you therefore generally are studying a useless degree regardless of passion and knowledge gained

Max is so fucking lucky.

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Girlfriends selfie!

>>169124609
At least your GPA is higher than Max's?

>>169125586
>2.8 GPA

No wonder she fell into Jeffershit's trap.

>>169125586
We don't have GPA's here.

I don't really like the photography community, either. Just gearfags who care nothing for the art.

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>>169128802
>tfw your great entry lost to a fucking selfie

https://arcadiaforever.bandcamp.com/album/arcadia-forever
Stumbled across this just now. Having a listen. Seems pretty cute and fits the mood of the games pretty well, thought you guys might enjoy it.

>>169129461
A fucking photo of a guy sitting down isn't superior to Max's fantastic selfie.

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>>169129536
Pretty good vibes.

At first I found it unfortunate that "Max et Chloe" is a live version, but I think I actually like it better. Sounds of more raw and real, of Max and Chloe beneath open skies, on endless roads and side by side for little sessions on Max's guitar, in the bed of the truck or near a bonfire.

>>169131316
Also, I wish there was more music incorporating voice samples from the game.

Maybe I will put some lines over existing instrumental music I like.

Audio directly extracted from the game can be downloaded from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrangeleaks/comments/3qni1e/ep5_spoilers_release_life_is_strange_complete

>>169129758
I haven't replayed it recently but I've heard that there was a mistake with the photo entries that was fixed in an update. Victoria's was meant to be the shot of a doctor while Daniel's was meant to be the guy sitting down.

And let's be honest here. Max's photo was one of the laziest entries. Anyone can frame something decent-looking in their room. It takes a lot more effort to search around and find that perfect moment. Kate's firefighter shot was very well-timed.

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>>169129758
W-whatever. I'm sure Max just won because of her continuous use of her pedo-waif charms on Mr Jefferson.
God, it's so obnoxious sitting their in class, watching those big innocent eyes directed at Jefferson, practically begging for a predatory reply. Do you know how often I see that happen? A lot. Virtually every time I look at her.
I mean, I get it. You've got to use what you've got, or in Max's case haven't got. But at least try to be a little subtle about it, instead of drawing attention to yourself, exhibiting the way your fucking freckles form a path across your fucking gorgeous creamy skin, down your dainty neck, all the way to the edge of your shirt. You practically force anyone who looks at you to check out your barely developed chest, you slut.

>>169132259
I suppose if you're thinking of just thinking of technicalities.

Max's story is better. It's obvious to take a photo of a firefighter or doctor, and besides they aren't really meangful.

Max's idea of everyone being a hero, having to face their past everyday, is more interesting. It's something for the critics to pour over.

>>169132494
You have no talent Victoria. Even your parents think so.

>>169132738
Oh, shit. Sorry for the typos.

>>169132738
>they aren't really meangful
I get the feeling the firefighter's actions had a hell of a lot of meaning to the people he saved.

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>>169132747
Go eat a dick.

>>169132747
Shush.

>>169132494
Vicky, hey. You have talent. You have an eye for the colder, starker image, a talent for portraiture, much indeed like Avedon.

>>169133040
From an artistic perspective- "FIREFIGHTERS ARE GOOD. THEY SAVE PEOPLE." Yes, we know. Go back to "instagram deep shit".

Victoria did nothing wrong.

>>169133040
>go to library newspaper records, find dozens of shots of firemen
>get inspired to produce yet another shot of a fireman

yawn. too obvious. the photographic equivalent of stealing a story that's been done at least three times on star trek

>>169133209
>>169133256
It's true. Victoria's an embarrassment to the Chase family. Just how many rejection letters do you think she's been sent?

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All this cruelty to the best grill

>>169132738
I agree.

Besides being framed and set well, her entry relates directly to photography and how it captures one's past, and how we relate to it in that context. Max herself out-of-focus, the emphasis put on her past that she faces. It's not strictly about her, but about the condition of the artist, and the human. The focus literally put on the photos, the lights literally highlighting her documented past.

However an indistinct past in that we can't make it out from the photos. The viewer can project oneself into her position and one's past into her memorial wall.

It's both deeply personal, yet meaningfully universal. And tangibly artistical.

Is Brooke buying a Nintendo Switch at launch?

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This kind of looked to me like Max's parents being romantic dorks.

>>169136129
>She's probably bought the NES classic
>Victoria's broken out her ohhohoho laugh, told her that it's such a rubbish purchase she should consider suicide
>Then pointed out that that too is impossible: the controller cords aren't long enough to form a decent noose

>>169136129
Yes, she's a huge weaboo.

When you guys think they will release or at least announce Season 2?

My bet is on late 2017 or early 2018.

>>169137692
Vampyr isn't coming out until late this year, so I'd reckon an early '18 announcement and mid-late '18 release for episode 1.

>>169138458
Hurry up already, frenchies.

>>169059537
>I stand by the idea that if Max was NOT supposed to save Chloe, she would never have gotten any power. To put her through everything and leave her with nothing is one of the cruelest things imaginable.

Here's an alternative theory: Max gained the power to overcome her guilt for losing contact with her best friend and make it up to her. Chloe says herself that their week was the best going away present she could've had. It gave Max a chance to enjoy some time with the Price-less one before she died. It's tragic, but Max had already lost Chloe by not staying in touch for five years.

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>>169080896
>mildly

>>169063582
>Furthermore, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Maybe not in the strictest sense of a paradox, but I'm not a literalist. I think it's in the spirit of a paradox. Someone has to chose between being a whole person or being with their true love.

>>169065302
>Max only uses her powers for good!

That's why it's difficult to imagine her letting people die in the storm by not using her powers. If she was a robot, it would be a violation of Asimov's law.

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>>169068898
>Is guide to sucking cocks a good read?
Your mom seems to think so.

>>169133387
Sure. Kate deserved to die.

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>>169125356
D-Don't you mean gal pals?

>Choo, choo.

>>169140998
When I first saw that dilemma, I convulsively started sobbing. To put Chloe through that, that awful, lonely death, to break her spirit to the point of having her suggest her own death, after building her back up through week is an inhuman tragedy so intense I literally wanted to die for a whole week just thinking about it.

Your idea doesn't make sense, and is needlessly cruel.

>>169143218
>Your idea doesn't make sense, and is needlessly cruel.
>Your idea doesn't make sense.
>Your idea is needlessly cruel.

My idea may hurt your feelings, but that doesn't mean it's not without logic.

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>>169144585
>implying there's any logic to michel's shit

>>169143218
I agree.

Not only because the idea of punishing a thirteen-year-old for not coping well with terrible tragedy is inhumanely cruel and bad narrative, not only because the week she gained was also full of painful things (painful things she only overcame thanks to and for Chloe, at that), but because at latest the AU represents the overcoming of any guilt, and establishes that their connection is so much more, and the power manifestation of that significance, not meant for her to overcome guilt of having lost contact with Chloe. Then the story would have ended there.

The week was a painful, yet wonderful process of overcoming, healing, growing, of finding oneself and each other, finding love. Becoming whole again in reuniting as the two broken-apart pieces of one and the same thing that they are. Not one of guilt and regret and arriving back at death.

To go back on all of the growth and healing and to undo all they've fought for and through, to let that love die, is to destroy characters and narrative. Certainly as what they and it mean to me.

>>169144585
>and
>not because

Dumb fuck, pay attention.

>>169144709
If you read again, he fell into the double negative trap. So technically, he is not implying there's any logic to it. The opposite, really.

>>169145181
I read what he wrote. He, or she, connected the two ideas through a compound sentence.

>>169145420
Literalism has its benefits.

>>169144795
>Not only because the idea of punishing a thirteen-year-old for not coping well with terrible tragedy is inhumanely cruel and bad narrative

Chloe suffered a tragedy, not Max.

>>169144795

This is all so obvious to anyone that pays attention to the themes, or has a literary education higher than a fifteen year-old.

Her father died, her best friend left, and she dealt with a stepshit at thirteen. The residual pain and trauma is so rational and understandable that to try and turn it into a message about "moving on" or "acting immaturely" is pretentious at best.

The looks they give each other, the fire and love they stir up in one another, and the beauty... let it die alone on a cold floor without it ever having begun.

No one should have to choose between suicide and emotional pain. Max and Chloe will rise above this, and they won't live in guilt.

>>169145652
A compound doesn't imply a consequence.

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>>169145652
>Chloe suffered a tragedy, not Max.
Yes, and Max did not know how to deal with it and her because of it. Entirely understandably.

Besides, she was also close to William, and his death in itself directly, as well in what it meant to Chloe indirectly, is a personal tragedy for Max.

Add that Max was forced to separate from Chloe, and I would say this turn of her young life constitutes a tragic turn that she understandably could not cope with.

Regardless, for me, it absolutely does not constitute the start to a narrative of a young girl having to suffer in a sense of atonement and regret, or cleaning herself from the idea that she would be guilty. That's inhumane and cruel. To Chloe certainly, but also to Max. Very fucking much so. Not only because it implies she was guilty to an extent, but because having her save Chloe and fight through all of these adversities and adversaries, having them both fight for each other and become better and happy with, through and thanks to each other, only to in the end suggest it was all about accepting it should not be, destroying these characters, draining their love into a bathroom runoff... just doesn't make any narrative sense and is just as inhumane and cruel.

>>169146449
They do stand taller than it all. Their bond is so much more than the idea of childhood guilt or trauma. Their love transcends all, the supernatural and tragedy only measure of how great it is that it has them face, fight, and overcome everything, heal and love in the midst of cruel chaos.

The true ending is the one where they and their love prevails... and together, they find a way to also save Arcadia.

"They shine bright. They will lead the entire town into the safety of the lighthouse. Max and Chloe standing at the edge of the cliff against the winds, holding hands, looking up to the raging tornado defiantly, the lighthouse shining blindingly - behind them gathered the Arcadian masses, staring in awe at... them."

I wish we got to see Max's house in Seattle and meet her parents.
See Max's room, see Ryan and Vanessa react to Chloe, and see Chloe explore a large city.

>>169147975
Nah, the true ending is where they sacrifice Arcadia. It's more profound to me.

>>169147975
>only to in the end suggest it was all about accepting it should not be, destroying these characters, draining their love into a bathroom runoff... just doesn't make any narrative sense
Exactly. Even when understood as Max's coming-of-age story first and foremost, like the developers always stress, its message would then be that to become an adult, you have to sit down and regretfully eat the horrible shit life serves you, instead of standing up and getting involved and fighting for what and who you care about.
A message that we should not try to change things, for we would only make them worse.

Not in my Life is Strange. Max and Chloe fought and they won. Life and love prevailed. Just like the people in Arcadia can fight for their lives and loves like we all have to in this world where things like tornadoes do exist.

>>169149487
there's absolutely no reason why Max or Chloe should have to settle for two equally silly choices.
The only thing limiting Max's power is how much she is willing to try to fix things and how much she's willing to ensure- which if it's for Chloe's good then she can withstand a lot.

I don't want your damn endings!
Demand to see DONTNOD's manager!

>>169149487
I like the idea that they would beat also the storm, together.

But you're right that it is emotionally more profound to have them live and love wholly, without guilt or any such, through and despite this tragedy. Accept and overcome it, have it be part of their pasts irrevocably defining them, but in a meaningful, valuable way. Grieving, but respecting. Maybe even in a sense of embracing fate. Or fighting it. Anyway, since it is a narrative and not actual people dying, and not actual people living through and having to live with this death and destruction, this demand for the more profound effect is understandable.

The ending cinematic kind of fails to properly show this profundity though, and it's altogether hard to convey such a sentiment, let alone create the emotional effect. Whereas the tremendousness and sentiment of saving Arcadia together would be easier to successfully and effectfully convey. The cinematical portrayal of it would be grand... Admittedly, probably too grand for this story, which does live in the small and quiet and everyday human moments, the great significance precisely in those, the supernatural and even the storm more as metaphors.

Would still be badass.

I would have had a lot more respect towards the endings if they were equally inconclusive.
End the Bae ending as it was, end the Bay ending immediately after Max hears the gunshot.
Why does only one option (Which makes little sense) rewarded with a long cinematic?

>tfw we never got a proper Pricefield kiss in the game

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>>169152538
In fact the truest crime of dontnod.

>>169152538
You can, just side with Chloe the whole way through the game (and never touch warren at all), pick bay at the end, enjoy the kiss, alt f4, then pick bae.

This is confirmed canon

>>169154036
The only way to play. >>169154036

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>>169152538
At least we know they get thousands of more in the future.

>>169154527
Giant Alice good for cuddling or riding around town.
Need to feed her giant carrots though.

>>169156265
Feed her Victoria.
>NO BULLY!

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>>169157141
I'd never eat Aunt Vicky.

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>Max wakes up and finds this on the pillow next to her

>>169152028
I asked for guacamole on this burrito. Instead you gave me gay tragedy. That's not even on the menu, asshole!

>>169150590
>The only thing limiting Max's power is how much she is willing to try to fix things
>Nosebleeds
>Migraines
And brain damage.

>>169149793
>you have to sit down and regretfully eat the horrible shit life serves you
>LiS
Life is Shit, but knowing that you did the right thing in the face of horrific alternatives, and cling to the good memories, makes it more tolerable.

>>169147975
>Add that Max was forced to separate from Chloe

She moved away, but that didn't stop her from staying in touch.

>Yes, and Max did not know how to deal with it and her because of it. Entirely understandably.
Picking up the phone isn't that difficult. Talking to her best friend, who lost her father, would've been the humane thing to do. They could've talked about his loss together. Waiting months to contact Chloe, she never did, after returning to Blackwell was low too.

>>169146449
>pays attention to the themes
There's also the theme of Chloe dying over and over again, as well as the theme of the supernatural omens growing more unreal and intense as Max continues living in a world where she changed fate.

>>169157894
>the theme of Chloe dying over and over again
Twice (The bathroom and Jefferson) or three times (If you count the AU and her declining health.)
Meanwhile Kate also dies twice before Max makes it onto the roof, William dies, and Max saves herself numerous times with her powers.
Don't give me that "Chloe is destined to die and Max needs to accept it" crap because it doesn't apply to any other use of her powers. That means the storm either has something to do with Chloe, Nathan/ his family, or something else entirely unknown.

>>169158773
I agree, if anything, the theme of fate being inescapable only applies to Arcadia Bay. Max saves the lives and fates of nearly everyone around her numerous times, yet no matter what she does, the storm is coming in every single timeline. Chloe just has bad luck, not a concrete fate.
Hell, the first thing that happens in the game is Max watching Arcadia Bay getting destroyed without any of her powers.

Max and Chloe are not to blame for anything that happened (Outside of their friendship being pout on pause for five years, which they have already made up for) and together they will support each other and overcome whatever obstacles appear in their way

Is late-night the most comfy time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrXpFh2IHZY
>Obstacles by Syd Matters
>4,333,981 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJO_RpBnEg
>Spanish Sahara by Foals
>3,806,889 views

hmm...
really makes you think

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>tfw so much smutty fiction, but none about rachel screwing a plant

>>169158773
>Twice (The bathroom and Jefferson) or three times (If you count the AU and her declining health.)
And the ricochet in the junkyard, and the train tracks.

>>169164508
Plant sexy time is breast sexy time.

At the end of the adventure Alice is forced to make a binary choice: live in a world where bunnies eat no carrots or Lisa dies after Max and Warren fuck on top of her then Frank spills beans on her leaves when he gets a turn while Chloe's tears salinate the soil, destroying her chances of regermination.

>>169165069
I wasn't counting optional deaths. I think you can avoid the junkyard and if you do it quick enough she doesn't die on the tracks.
Still, the fact she dies multiple times and you're not supposed to save her- but other characters are totally fine to save- is nonsense.

>>169165179
Stop posting your crap.

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>>169164508
Rachel! How could you?

>>169165179
Stop it!

>>169165621
It's just a joke! You know how Rachel is. Really flirty and sometimes slightly inconsiderate with her pranks, but she's just having fun.

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>>169165621
>>169165621
I'm just kidding, Alice. I'd never let that happen to Lisa, especially when she has a girlfriend as cute as you.

>>169165440
The other characters are saved after Chloe was supposed to die. They're already living in a doomed world, to borrow a phrase from Morrowind. The universe attempts to kill Chloe and hurt/kill Alyssa.

The point isn't whether the deaths are optional. The point is that Chloe will only live if Max intervenes with her rewind powers. That means she's destined to die in the natural course of events.

Chloe Price is a tragic character. Tragic characters die tragic deaths. There's not much else to it.

>>169166932
Bull. Shit. If Max changes time then that become the reality of the world. She saved other just a she saved Chloe, Chloe is not special in the terms of the universe (Even if she is awesome in her own right)
Chloe's past is tragic, yes, but it gets better after Max saves her and shows her she's not alone.

>>169166932
>That means she's destined to die in the natural course of events.

>>169159298

>>169167326
Even Chloe's luck isn't too bad in the game. I really chalk up everything after meeting Max again to her just being excited and wanting to show off how cool she is.
She survived 5 years without max, and 6 months without Rachel (Being pretty much alone). It's only during the one week that anything bad seems to happen to her. Everyone has episodes of bad luck or where they just get a little too excited.
In the long run, Chloe will be fine.

>>169168694
Yeah, and it's not like the universe was "out to get her", nearly all the times she died (apart from the AU) was from her recklessness or diving straight into danger

>Confronting a mentally unstable rich kid who may have raped her over some cash
>Playing with a loaded gun in a junkyard
>Laying down on active train tracks (wtf really)
>Knowingly walking into a deathtrap set up by Nathan (really Jefferson) at the junkyard in the middle of the night making tons of noise doing so
>Not heeding Max's warning in the San Fran timeline and staying in Arcadia Bay when the storm hits

She was walking into danger left and right during that week

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>>169169468
That was just one week as you said, and as I pointed out it a lot of it had to do with her being excited her best friend finally came back. For the first time in possibly years she felt happy and like she was on top of something. Things are starting to make sense to her, and even though she's still worried about Rachel, she feels good and want to show off a bit.

There's even excuses that could be made for some of those listed items but it's not needed, the point remains; Chloe wasn't "constantly dying" and the universe was not trying to get ride of her, she just has some bad luck and too much impulsiveness and thankfully Max was there for her to pull her back a little bit when she went too far.
>Cue the "Reasons why Chloe Price is a puppy" comic

If the universe really wanted Chloe to die it would have taken her before Max came back.

>>169170591
This is totally Chloe's doing. Same for the stuff inside the pool building.

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Sleep tight, cuties

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Naughty Max is Naughty.

>>169173798
all this talk of eating shit
>eat shit taylor
>you'll have to eat shit now
>eat shit and die

I worry Chloe's going to find out one day that Max has some very specific and non-conventional interests. Which may lead to an infection of the digestive tract.

>>169174879
It's almost as if Max talks like a sexual deviant originating from France, like someones projecting themselves onto her...

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>>169082647
>>169082985

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>>169176831
REWIND THIS

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zzzzzzzz

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Victoria is a prideful kitty.

>>169178548
>feline lap cuckery
I didn't know I wanted this until I saw it

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>>169178601
Feline bunny snuggling is pretty cute too.

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>>169179536
Is it as cute when you realise the bunnies the true reason the bunnies and cat are snugly together so serenely: that they've been gassed with carbon monoxide and are dead.

haha ;)

>>169179837
Joke's on you. Kate set up a crossbow booby trap at the entrance of the burrow.

>>169180025
>he used to be an animal abusing game designer
>then he took an arrow to the knee

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This general shouldn't exist, stop masturbating to lesbians.

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>>169180447
>stop masturbating to lesbians.
no

>>169180292
That's what happens when you try to hurt Kate's family and friends. She's a doting sister and fiercely protective of them.

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>>169180572

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>tfw no life is strange for shotacons

y liv

y do straightfags get EVERYTHING

ITS NOT FAIR

>>169181389
wot about warryn?

>>169181925

Get's a face full of sodium

>>169181389
What do you mean? There aren't any shotacons in LiS? Or LiS version with shotacon? Life is Strange is gay, by the way.

>>169181978
So it's shota + guro
win/win

Michel did nothing wrong.

>>169181389
Well why don't you just stop being gay and attracted to children?

>>169184107
I'm a Bayfag and even I think this is nonsense.

>>169184190
but I'm only attracted to 2d and only because they're cute and I want to live an anime 2d life as one and engage in /ss/ is that wrong

>>169184190
>bayfag

We don't want you here. Kys.

>implying LiS isn't gay

>>169185262
This is why a lot of Bayfags look down on Baefags. Because some of you act like children who can't let go or grow up.

>>169157894
>Life is Shit, but knowing that you did the right thing in the face of horrific alternatives, and cling to the good memories, makes it more tolerable.

>right thing
Ah.

And yeah, I'm sure Max will totally cling to the good memories of a nonexistent future of having lived and fought, grown and healed, and loved with Chloe, and then both her and Chloe, as well as that health and growth and love, having died brutal, tragic deaths in a school toilet before it ever happened. Even the game itself says that it will be a fury.

Regardless, Life is Shit, but love can make it not only tolerable, it can make it valuable and worthwhile. What else do we live for? And so we fight for it, through and against all. Not giving up on it and everything in the face of a tornado. Their love has them leap across universes and through time, the tornado is one of the lesser obstacles it has overcome that week.

>Picking up the phone isn't that difficult.
Of course it is. Picking up the phone is more than just that. It's facing all the past, the pain, facing the person, oneself. You will certainly agree that it was "the humane thing" that Chloe did not pick up the phone, so why can't you understand that it was difficult for Max too? We know she wanted to contact Chloe, felt bad, never forgot, missed her. So what is your idea - that she simply could have called her, but never did because she's a bad person and wanted Chloe to be alone? Why do you think didn't she call if not because she was a young human and in pain of the past, not handling it well, instinctively seeking distance from the pain, reaching out being so difficult for her that she didn't, despite it all, despite what they had shared, despite being lonely and despite being a deeply caring person?

I do agree that the month at Blackwell spent not contacting Chloe is more damning. But we know she also wanted to contact Chloe there, and I believe she would have, eventually.

>>169185367
Maybe we should kill our best friends to help mature. :^)

And why Baefags look down on Bayfags is because they have no logic or story comprehension.

>>169186113
You're still doing it...

>>169186265
Being correct?

Seriously, grow up. "Oh, no, they're acting like they're better than me! Waaaah!"

>>169157894
>Nosebleeds
>Migraines
These don't affect her Focus powers, and they in fact get less and less frequent with use. To an extent where she doesn't appear to have those anymore.

>And brain damage.
Apart from the rewind-limit glitching, we have no reason to believe it causes her brain damage. Migraines and nosebleeds are not in itself reason for that, and that she falls weak and into a nightmare after a week of little sleep, much adventurous action and much shit to face and fight through, is reasonable.

But obviously the Focus power - which she would have to use to save Arcadia either at the end or after it - comes with great risk for herself and anyone. So there are limits, certainly.

>Chloe dying over and over again
She doesn't actually almost die that often, all of it is in the context of dangerous things where fatal danger comes with the activity, and crucially, she dies less and less.

>supernatural omens growing more unreal and intense as Max continues living in a world where she changed fate
In the AU, the supernatural omens come five years after she had changed "fate".

Besides, again, if the theme for you is "accepting the fate of Chloe's death", good - for me, this has no narrative or sentimental merit. Not as a coming-of-age story, not as a love story, not as one about time travel, not in its emotional and human implications for me. I can embrace and cherish it as a story about standing up for and fighting for what we believe in, care about, what we feel is right, for love. And winning that fight, the powers metaphor for this willpower and fight against all obstacles and odds, the metaphor also for the significance of that bond, that love, that it literally transcends everything. I can only despise it as the idea of giving up and eating shit fatalistically, for some unknown reason, as a lesson on how we should not stand up, but sit down, not act, let our love and ourselves, and our loved ones die, for something deemed "fate" or "moral".

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>bayfags show up in the thread again

>>169186710
Still doing it...

>>169186752
We're in every thread.

>>169166932
>Chloe Price is a tragic character. Tragic characters die tragic deaths. There's not much else to it.
There is very much else to it. Max can prevent her tragedy, that is what the entire story pivots on. They can live and love and heal and become happy together; they face, fight and overcome all odds, obstacles, adversities and adversaries from within and without thanks to and for each other, their love literally transcending time and space. Why give up on all that? Because they have to be tragic characters that die tragic deaths? That is precisely what they don't have to in this story, where we can fight and prevail.

The tragedy would be giving up on this fight and love, it would be a tragedy of love, but also one of identity and humanity, in as much as that fight is the human fight altogether, and Max's fight is hers for her personal identity. Overcoming her self-doubt and self-blame and second-guessing of her decisions, of her feelings and reasons she had done them for, i. e. second-guessing her own person - it's to overcome this and attain a self-love and self-cetainty and self-confidence, an accepting of oneself and self-embracing. To go back on this is to give up on her identity and growth, taking away this self-embracing confidence and standing up for oneself and what one feels and believes in and fought for.

>>169188353
If the story was about Arcadia and its people, sure, I could sympathize more with the idea that this is a story about preventing a tornado. But it's about Max and Chloe and their relationship, and those can prevail and overcome, blossom and flourish, stand tall above all, a great optimism and hope in it, a fight for oneself, for love, and for each other, won.

Me and "my" Max, we won't falter at the last hurdle, succumb to a tornado, to self-blame and blind, tragic ideas about guilt or responsibility. The last hurdle is Max herself, the tornado being representation of her fears, and posing the question whether she can overcome this biggest, final hurdle that is herself: can she overcome her insecurities, fears, her self-blame and stick to her convictions and feelings and choices, her heart - or does she cower before it, letting it dictate what she does, ducking down and eating shit with tears in her eyes, regretting herself, sacrificing herself, identity, sacrificing love, humanity.

The biggest idea of this character-centric narrative was that Max and Chloe's separation was bad for them, that the abandonment halted both of their growth. And that together, reunited, rekindled, two broken-part pieces reattached, they grow, heal, become whole, live and love so mutually and complementarily. It shows how meaningful and powerful this bond is, literally saying it has the power to defy the universe. So how could its conclusion be to separate again, abandon again, break apart this bond that is literally unbreakable and stood against all - use the power that stems from it and is its manifestation, to bring about its end? That's so profoundly backwards. There's only a meaningful and hopeful and powerful message of learning, growing and loving and prevailing as oneself and together in not separating, not abandoning.

>>169187175
So are you.

I'm doing nothing but being correct.

>>169189210
Even if you take narrative and powers to revolve around "fate", it only becomes a fated love, and accepting and embracing this fate of being meant to be together. Or even fighting fate, making one's own destiny.

It's still a tragical fate because it comes at Arcadia's destruction, but infinitely more hopeful and optimistic and coherent and meaningful than the fate of going back to before it all began and deeming it all "right and "better" not to happen for that deeply blindly tragical reason of succumbing to forces of nature out of our control, a disaster humanity experiences countless of. The fight against which it expresses itself in to begin with.

>>169190589
One of the very few ways in which I have always appreciated the Bay reading of the game, is that personal one of coping with the loss of a loved one so incredibly precious to us, the suggestion that there is a life and happiness after it, that this bond transcends even death, that the person lives on in a sense. Here maybe even spiritually. But that as an appreciation strictly for the person and their personal dealing with the game narrative - that narrative itself is so very much not one of accepting Chloe's death, the idea that their separation can be good for Max, that she can be at all good after that, without her. The idea of accepting that cruel regression, literally-backwards conclusion of going back and returning Max to an insecure, scared, self-doubting not-doer and Chloe to a desperate and lonely tragedy bleeding her great life and love and hope and happiness into a drain, three meters away from the person that is that grand future of her life and love and hope and happiness, their impossibly strong bond turning against itself and themselves, Max forcing herself to do the impossible, do what was so impossible to her and this narrative world that Chloe dying a stranger before all that happened already led to the defying of and fight against time and tragedy, led to the entire game universe being rewritten...

To use the timepower that prevented it, that represents its omni-significance for the narrative, to bring it about; to use the willpower that fought for its prevayal, that represents the health and growth and maturity in it, to force oneself to succumb to its fatality... that's impossibly backwards.

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Reminder that Season 2 will take place in California.

>>169192137
>his twitter is full of cool travel pics
Michel does (not) deserve this.

>>169193034
His instagram, I mean.

>>169193034
it's for research purposes:)

>>169192137
That could actually work.

California desert towns are comfy, lonely, beautiful, creepy, and interesting.

>>169190315
Okay then.

>>169193441
This. Desert could be hella comfy.

>>169193516
The hicks are, well, another story.

>muh guns
>muh marriage sanctity
>muh beer
>muh white pride
>muh incest

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>>169193516
No Life for Strange (Wo)Men confirmed

The natural disaster this time is Chigurh

>>169194252
No, it's not comfy in general. The desert towns can have a coziness, but look at all my other descriptive words.

>>169195401
FUCKING DELET DELET