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General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb-f9P_tyQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZymd6r4wGg
Brotherhood episodes: http://pastebin.com/Q7Efb9F2

>FF XI
January update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51933
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF XIV
Patch 3.5 Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xixQ5XhjkM

>Final Fantasy Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yjUI0AwTAoBxuZlGQQZfaEQMnNt2bUdzm0gMZHXq4Cs/edit#gid=0
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/UyaKYH9u

>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
How to JP: http://pastebin.com/91MEQ6wW
GL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/c43qGvi6
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

>MOBIUS Final Fantasy
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/nGC6BJ84

>Dissidia Opera Omnia
https://youtu.be/48WHqnFT9OQ

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/xMVaH4Hv

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>>168942301
You could have stopped it.
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So, how is the FFVII on PS4?
It's on sale.
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>>168942571
Runs pretty well, but I mean it's still FFVII.
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>>168942774
You sound like this is a bad thing.
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>>168942451
G A Y
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>Final Fantasy Explorers Force Game Revealed for Smartphones
Is this going to be RK, BE and Mobius killer?
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>>168942571
EMULATE FOR FUCK SAKES.
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>>168943110
Its already the OO killer :^)
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>>168942887
It isn't. If you love 7 you'll love it in PS4. It's a good port.
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>>168942301
Boring OP image.
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Isent FFXI supposed to be on sale?

There was a thread I saw last night while phoneposting in bed on /v/. Checked just now on my desktop, and nothing.
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>>168943110
did you enjoy final fantasy explorers? all i can say is that this will probably just be a port
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>>168943110
>Explorers getting a sequel
What the actual fug
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>>168943309
Thank you!
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Hey, I am level 15 and just starting to try to do crafting, how is it? Can I make money? What should I focus on?
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>got a brand new phone today
>Exvius in glorious super HD after being on a rinky dink phone before
Might try Möbius on here, I think it'll look nice.
also holy shit this Clover app is useful, thanks to some anon who mentioned it a few threads back
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>>168943695
>Clover app
you mean the dating app?
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>>168943695
don't talk about clover, see ya
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>>168943110
They should have done this to begin with. MH is really the "king" of 3DS multiplayer huntan and gathering. Though hopefully it sold well enough where we can it here.
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>Nightmare dungeons are about to end
Goodnight sweet prince
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>>168943410
I think the sale for both the SE site and Steam was only for the weekend. Sorry, friend.
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>>168944287
But anon,


You forget the giant space the middle.


Say hello to 7* skills!
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I want to kiss Ignis's lips !!
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please do not draw on this banner
it is not good
viii banners are so much better
even the beginner's banners are better

>We're hosting the Select Nightmare Relic Draw to celebrate the opening of all 12 Nightmare dungeons, and it contains Burst and Super Soul Break Relics for heroes who often appear in Nightmare dungeon parties.
>All 5 drops are Burst or Super Soul Break Relics.
>Duration 5:00 PM 2/21 PST (1:00 AM 2/22 UTC) to 4:59 PM 3/3 PST (12:59 AM 3/4 UTC)

>Available Relics
>Burst Soul Break Relics
>Stardust Rod (VI)
>Burst Soul Break: Blood of Espers (Terra)

>Keeper's Tome
>Burst Soul Break: Keeper's Tome (Keeper)

>1st Fusion Sword (VII)
>Burst Soul Break: Fenrir Overdrive (Cloud)

>Super Soul Break Relics
>Faris's Bracers (V)
>Super Soul Break: Serpent's Gale (Faris)

>Peacemaker (XIII)
>Super Soul Break: Crushing Blow (Lightning)

>Crescent Wish (VIII)
>Super Soul Break: Dreamstage (Selphie)

>Full Metal Rod (X)
>Super Soul Break: Dragon's Roar (Yuna)

>Yoshiyuki (VII)
>Super Soul Break: Black Materia (Sephiroth)

>Apocalypse (VII)
>Super Soul Break: Apocalypse (Zack)

>Wizard Staff (VII)
>Super Soul Break: Pulse of Life (Aerith)

>Mace of Zeus (V)
>Super Soul Break: Pride of Tycoon (Lenna)

>Orichalcum (IX)
>Super Soul Break: Shift Break (Zidane)

>Traitor's Bow (XII)
>Super Soul Break: Mist Overload (Fran)

>Cardinal (VIII)
>Super Soul Break: Wishing Star (Rinoa)

>Please Note
>* The 5 equipment that drops in this Relic Draw is always Burst or Super Soul Break equipment.
>* If you possess Mythril equal to or higher than the amount required as displayed in the Relic Draw Screen, the option to combine Mythril and Gems will not be available.

>This is the perfect draw to get Soul Break equipment!

it doesn't even say it's half off
this is the trappest banner
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>>168944537
derped the image, too
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Anyone here play Brave New World?
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>>168944437
More like say hello to magicite dungeons
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>>168943976
Is it taboo or something?

>>168944537
What the fuck is this relic selection? What were they thinking?
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>>168944678
Nah, I play civ 6 now.
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>>168944848
https://youtu.be/pC_XT-HdBvE
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>>168944537
I was kind of hoping for better, since nothing seems that interesting until the next fest.
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>>168944287
>>Nightmare dungeons are about to end
No? They'll stay open forever
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>>168944840
there was a survery about 2 weeks ago asking players what relics they would like to get in a distant future draw.
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>>168944287
>tyro tyro tyro tyro...
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>>168945452
That recent survey was for Ultros Draw, not this one
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>>168945582
>not abusing Tyro's ability to do literally anything and his BSB if you have it
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>>168945201
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6samPEMpM
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>>168945582
Putting his wall aside, the reason people use him in every nightmare dungeon is because he gets synergy. So he can cover whatever skillset that it's normally tough to bring in.
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>>168944678
>Brave New World
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.
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>>168946492
What did he do right?
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor is an ugly poopoo head.
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>>168946491
This shit is always pathetic.
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>>168946491
What is this shit?
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>>168946491
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>>168946491
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>>168947779
stop
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>>168947858
no
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>>168947968
stop
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Is any OSB worth it other than Orlandeau
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>>168948009
>>168947858
Hammer time.
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>>168948152
stop
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>>168947858
>trying to stop an /ffg/ tradition
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>>168948123
yes
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>>168948123
As long as it exploits a weakness otherwise stick to BSBs
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>>168948123
OSBs are rule of cool. Big numbers are fun.

Hey BE players. Where do I farm 6* awakening mats? The FFII event says it has some but I only saw a few in chests. Also whens the next Cactaur dunes?
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>>168948123
Cloud. It has non elemental damage so you can take it anywhere really. Helped me with these Ultimate's quite a bit.
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Why was changing Aeris' name such a big deal when Exdeath's real name is pretty clearly "Exodus" but nobody cares
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>>168948403
>Where do I farm 6* awakening mats?
Events
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>>168948667
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Did the new FFBE update hit yet?
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>>168942985
It's not gay if it's with Noctis
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>>168946669
>tfw have all 3 of these
thank you based rngesus
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>>168946669
Everything, anon.

>>168946709
This is both hilariously incorrect and low-effort.
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>>168948264
>wasting 5+ images a thread on stupid gifs we've seen 150 times with 0 discussion
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>>168948852
Fair enough. Does it typically take multiple events to do a single 6* awakening? Or did the FF2 one just have a low amount of stuff to give out.
I was able to clear this and get the Axe reward, can't do Pro but the axe is good enough for me.
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>>168949098
>meanwhile theres 20+ FFBE drama shitposting in every thread
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>>168944287
>Alph in 2nd place for Nightmare Tritoch
hehe

>>168944537
Wow shitty
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>>168949140
Usually you can buy enough mats with event currency, but this one was easy, so not gonna complain about the amount of mats
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>>168948123
Even if the soul break itself isn't generally as useful as a BSB, the relic it comes on is probably an incredible stat stick worth using rosetta stones on.

I mean, if it's not like, Tyro's book.
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>>168949140

>143/57
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>mag crest/ genji glove (2x Mateus's Malice) has a higher MAG than Letters and Arms stack
I only want the best for my Tree. ;_;
Should I whale for 2 Emperors?
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>>168949332
Thanks. Cool to know. The game's quite a bit more fun now than it was when I was playing (quit at the bread making event.) I should probably figure out an emulator for my computer and macro TM grinding.
>>168949615
That was when I was just doing pulls for the sake of pulling. But I took that picture to show someone what I beat the Veritas of Wind or heavens or whatever the jump guy was called with.
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>>168949002
>tfw have 2/3 but it doesn't matter because Cloud's USB will eventually outclass Orlandeau
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>>168949905
Isn't that thing better as a RW anyways? Can't wait to P.Cecil BSB into Saint Crosses.
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>>168949725

explain the setup, you still get more MAG with malice + enhancer + 4 L&As
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>>168949984
It is. It's a godsend for difficulty 300 Torment fights.
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What's the best RM to get to put on mages/healers while autoing through battles?
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>>168950285
Right Hand: Mateus's Malice
Left Hand: Mateus's Malice
Head: Grand Helm
Body: Force Armor
Accessory 1: Genji Glove
Accessory 2: Magistral Crest
Ability 1: MAG +30%
Ability 2: MAG +30%
Ability 3: MAG +30%
Ability 4: MAG +30%
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>>168950451
Enflame, Black Mage's Awakening, Flower of Trabia.
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>>168949905
Cloud's USB RW is perfect on Orlandeau's BSB
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>>168950679
His BSB is awful without his OSB.
>cast time on commands are twice as long as standard ones
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>>168950536

yea, you could probably hit way higher with L&A depending on how many you have.
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>>168950665
Thanks
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>>168950889
Fuck. I don't have Gilga either. Should I pull for Emperor now, or wait for the update?
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>>168950861
Doesnt he get Thunder God mode on his RM3?
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>>168950861
You have ability slots, you know? You're supposed to power chain before the BSB and then in between commands
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>>168951042

If you want/need the emperor, pull now. The FFII banner is gonna go away before the update happens.
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Is one Leon enough? Or should i pull more?
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What's up with FFIX having bosses that don't really die and just run away without giving you any rewards for the fight?

I want my exp/ap FUCK
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>>168952712
Your reward is advancing the story.
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>>168952712
>exp
>FFIX bosses
????
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>>168951796
What's the story with Leon in FF2? One moment he's your friend, the next he's working for the empire. Even after you kill the emperor he doesn't seem to show any remorse and is ready to take the throne in his place. Only when the Emperor shows back up, revealing that he's made a pact with Hell and is going to fuck the world over does he join up again. Is Leon the biggest asshole of any playable FF character?
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>>168953264
yeah maybe
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>>168953264
Wakka is an unabashed racist
Seymour is playable
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>year 2020
>gumi announces its servers for BE will be down
>current Mobius playerbase population : 1
>same people are still playing RK
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>>168953461
>implying racism is bad
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>>168953542
Probably won't take until 2020. If it's profitable enough, and it seems to be, they'll do a new game to make sure they can keep getting money for it. It's not like it would take much effort to throw a BE2 together.
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Is dark cloud a must have from this batch? I don't really want to roll on it 1-2 more times since I already have 1st and Aerith is impossible.
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>>168952712
You have to steal your rewards.
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Palace of the Dead is killing me
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>>168953264
Leon is darth vader, but survives.
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>>168954625
I remember when I first played this, thinking what a great mechanic it was since the main character was a thief. But it ended up as one of those things where you wonder if they actually playtested it.
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FEH is a better game than BE.
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>>168955961
That's not saying much.
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>>168955961
Nah, Fire Emblem Heroes sucks ass. FFBE has actually made me want to keep playing, despite having a PC and some badass games. FEH couldn't have done that.
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>>168955961
Thats not really saying much. Heroes is probably the mobage with the most watered down version of its series's gameplay. Its on par with that yugioh mbage with 3 monster and spell slots
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>>168944537
>five guaranteed 5* relics
>relic list is utter shit

The only way I'll be convinced to pull on this if it was a half-price once-only lucky draw.

And then watch me get nothing but dupes of Stardust Rod VI and Apocalypse.
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Screw this senile bastard.
>"Guyz we have to do (thing)"
>try (thing) a few times and fail
>turns out (opposite thing) is what actually works
Was this intentionally troll dialogue?
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>>168954770
"Unable to steal!"
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>>168955961
true but Brave Exvius is a very, very shitty game
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>>168957040
yes
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>>168956654

That's duel links no one plays that
Go play duel generation they just got pendulum summons
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>>168943110
>monster hunter rip off using smartphone controls
it's going to be extremely shit
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>>168957748

That sounds kinda fun actually
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>>168957139
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>TFW Golbez will never get a 6*

I hate this feel
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>>168955961

What happend to your 5* hector ?
Why are you using a 3* corrin (i think)
(I'm new to fire emblem so i don't know the names).
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>>168957040
the fuck you talking about
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>>168957703

But yugioh was better before synchro, xyz, and pendulum summons.
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>>168958276
t. nostalgia fag
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>Try to play BE
>Fucking like 10 areas after I start I start getting fucking shit on because I don't have le epic 5* units that oneshot everything from level 1
>This cringy writing that isn't even remotely entertaining
>Literally have been wandering this city for like an hour trying to figure out where the fuck I'm supposed to find this quest npc
This game is fucking garbage and unfun. How do you people play this? Let alone spend money on such retarded powercreep. What exactly is supposed to be fun in this game and when do I get to it?
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Does anyone play FFRK JP
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Okay so after using vortex to level my characters I was thinking wow this is taking forever so I decided to do the math to see how long theoretically it would take to get a unit to max level.

Say if you got a 5 star character level 1, to get it to 6 star max level it would require 3,131,324 exp. (using tier 4 5 star and tier 6 6 star growth)

Common methods to get exp.
Metal Gigantaurs *from events (30,000 XP)
ADV vortex (15 NRG / 31,000 XP)
Maranda Coast (12 NRG / 60,064 XP)
Timber Tracks (8 NRG / 66,900 XP)

Method 1 (Gigantaurs) no bonus: 104.377 gigantaurs required costing 641.56 NRG

(can be greatly reduced with bonus units/encountering bonus monsters/fusion bonus making this the BEST METHOD to get exp)

Mana mystery w.o bonuses averaged 211.5 currency or 2.115 Gigantaurs for 63,450 XP for 13 NRG.

Method 2 (Vortex) : 101.01 runs costing 1515 NRG

Method 3 (Maranda Coast) : 52.133 runs costing 625.59 NRG

Method 4 (Timber Tracks): 46.80 runs costing 374.45 NRG

288 NRG in a day. So all of these methods will take longer than a day.

The worst method being the vortex which would take over 5 days to get your unit to max level. That's if you either had a macro going all the time or stayed up 24/7 never letting your energy go over.

TLDR: All the leveling methods suck except for gigantaurs from the events when you have bonus mobs and bonus units.
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>>168958474
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>>168958474
No one plays it for the story you dingus. The whole good story thing is just PR from their store page. We play it mainly for the events and grinding. And tears when you don't get X character.
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>>168958474
>10 areas after I start I start getting fucking shit on because I don't have le epic 5* units that oneshot everything from level 1
I think you might just be shit. Fuck, I used Rain and Lasswell about up until Fina was introduced in the story and I got along just fine
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>>168958474
go play Mobius and RK and report back in sir.
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>>168958474
Sounds like you needa git gud. The story is piss easy even without base 5s but you can't simply auto your way through like FE.
Also, here's a (You) if this was supposed to be b8.
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>>168958531
yeah maybe
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>>168958775
I used Rain and Lasswell and Fina and beat up to around when Ramuh was introduced. Even used them to beat the White Dragon final boss in the Colosseum.
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>>168958906
>you can't simply auto your way through
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>>168958537
The only way I level my characters are through mog king gigantuars. Couldn't fathom doing it any other way.
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>>168958474

Don't even need a 5* Unit for story, but you will need someone with Cura midway through the second island.

Just reroll for "le epic 5* like everyone else.
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>>168956962
It's not even that, it's just "all 5-STAR drops are Burst or Super Soul Breaks"

It's fucking terrible
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How many trophies do you have /ffg/?
Are you gonna be ready to roll on Thursday?

I'm sitting at 49, only need 11 more to get the rura ringu.
Fuck the esper trophy in the ass.
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>Bahamut Apoc
>People save all of their SB until the boss is at 5%
How retarded are people that they save BSBs until the boss is already dead.
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>>168958763
But where is the fun in that?
>>168958775
>>168958906
>>168959228
You say that but then I go to fulian pass and I barely complete the explore.
It's not supposed to be bait, I'm legitimately not enjoying this. Maybe it's just me or maybe they designed it intentionally so no one has fun unless they have a 5* but I gave up rerolling after a few days of that shit. Honestly I don't get why I have to reroll just in order to play the game normally. This shit happened to me in PAD where I tried playing with only a decent unit and got completely stopped in my tracks because it was legitimately impossible for me to win anything anymore. I really hate that shit and I don't know why mobile games try to force the powercreep. I just wanted to play but I guess I can't since I don't want to reroll for another week.
>>168958791
I already do play them which is why I wanted to try out BE too since I enjoy those. Unfortunately I'm not enjoying anything here.
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>>168959906
Nigga stop blaming the game for you being shit, I didn't even get a 4* until Grandport and I did just fine
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>>168959906
Add some of the blackest peoples on the friend code doc to carry you and stop bitching
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>>168959906
BE is just a really shit game so try not to think about it too much
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>>168953461
The Al-Bhed are literally the only reason why Sin exists.
Wakka is the only one with any god damn sense.

Seymour also literally did nothing wrong. His biggest crime was not wanting to be dead (hint: Auron did the same thing).
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>>168959713
Indeed. I only have only 1200 summons. The only easy trophy I have left is the steal trophy and maybe the forge silver trophy.

I can't wait until the 23rd when I can burn all of the energy pots I got from both Valentines and CNY to rush the story for the lapis mines and Odin.

Also I have a feeling that these will be the banners after the current ones run out.
>FFT-0 2 banner, then Players' Choice and then Orlandu.

Maybe a filler banner in between like the rumored 120 ATK Lightning elemental gun 5* base.

>>168959906
And people already cleared that content without a base 5* when base 5*s didn't even exist. And you have the option to grind your ass off with the EXP vortex to raise your levels to power through the story content with ease.
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>>168959906
I also want to say that I usually enjoy exploring towns for secrets but it's genuinely grueling to do here. They went with the whole "check the corners for secrets" thing and ran with it. There's literally a hidden alcove in every part of every town and I end up spending so long just going through it all. Not to mention that I can barely control myself and am running into walls 80% of the time.
>>168960040
>>168960102
Fuck off. I don't like the game for more reasons than getting shit on, but fucking why do you think it's okay for stonewalling to happen so early in the game? This shit isn't fun. At least it ain't for me.
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>>168960309
>is a shitter
>wah, it's everyone else's fault I can't play the simplest final fantasy game ever
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>>168960296
>I need to grind my ass off 10 minutes after starting the game
This isn't a roguelike though. This is a streamlined mobile gacha game. It's just got garbage pacing.
>>168960379
I can play Final Fantasy 1 though. Am I a shitter for not getting lucky and winning the lottery?
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explorations are the worst part of BE desu senpaitachi
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>>168960457
>vortex is grinding
I didn't know pressing auto while having yuor friend unit carry you into free exp was so hard. And you're a shitter for not being able to beat some of the easiest levels. Like I said, I didn't even have a 4* until I was past you. Either git gud or accept that you're a shitter
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>>168960496
nah that's the pool of 6-8 usable units and the endless sea of donuts and shitty new characters
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>>168960457
You need to grind your ass off the moment the game begins. Not 10 minutes in, fucking immediately.

That's the fucking point. Like, that's the whole game, the story is just one small facet of this grind.
It's like playing a NIS game and complaining about the grindan.
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>>168960647
You literally just said it was grinding
???????
"you have the option to grind your ass off with the EXP vortex "
You JUST fucking said it was grinding. I used your own words.
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>>168960765
>implying that was me that said that
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>tfw wasted my rainbow luck on this shit
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>>168960974
Ace is fucking Aces in GL because of Wild Cards and the recent shafting of physical units.

He's easily the best mage.
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>>168960974
Lol I remember getting this chuckle fuck during the event with my half off daily pull
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>>168960748
I'm aware of the grinding but I meant that I have even more grinding to do because I didn't win the gacha. Though obviously the same sentiment applies as I'm playing a gacha game and complaining about the gacha. Honestly I should just stop getting tricked into playing games based on generals posting about it all the time because that never means they're good.
>>168960907
If that wasn't you then why are you replying to me in the first place? Reply to the guy who actually called it grinding and not me for just quoting it.
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>>168960765
The EXP vortex is the easiest thing to clear and can grab you gluts of EXP to level your units which is very important for early game. Heck the 30K EXP from the ADV EXP vortex is pretty easy with a good magefriend unit. Just remember to solo level units.

I have a 600+MAG Dark Fina that can manhandle that with ease as a friend unit. Not to mention that with Ramuh she gets access to Thundara to basically one shot all four battles and still have MP.

Post your FC and I'll add you in.
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>>168961072
>then why are you replying to me in the first place?
Because I can, deal with it
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>>168960974
Top tier with enhancements
Wild Card is a Magic attack that procs killers and gets casted twice with Dual Wield

He's a fucking monster
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>>168961072
You always have grinding to do. You don't have to grind more, you just have to grind. Everybody has to grind. Everybody's HERE to grind.

You should always have your units capped, unless they're literal shit. If anything, lucky people have MORE to grind because they have more good units that deserve capping, while your sorry ass has nothing worthwhile.
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>>168961109
That is so fantastically overkill, negan.

A "good" unit was needed to clear the ADV vortex back when 250 MAG was considered whaling. Nowadays basically any shitter can autoattack it on their own, even mages.
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>>168961575
It's 600+ since I have that for the ELT Dreadnaught event for Anons who have problems to clear it. I know that any shitter with a decent friend unit can auto attack with said friend.
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>tfw all three equips are your waifus

Fujin best girl
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>>168961952
>Fujin's Chakram
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>>168962225
It was my first 5 star ever, so it's been waiting for her.

Also I'm not going to vomit mythril for Shin Chakram. Fujin is waifu, not whale.
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What an odd way to mess something up. Translation says ""Did you know the sandstorm was here for a thousand years...?" They added 500 years for some reason. Earlier on in Cleyra they messed up similarly having Freya say she hadn't seen the king in 3 years, while the Japanese said 5. I accidentally missed screenshotting it though.
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>>168962518
500 years just isn't a long amount of time to us gaijin so they had to double it to meet the audience. Is what they probably thought
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>>168944537
Even the next DU lucky draw is a better banner than that shit.
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>>168880184
Thanks to whoever helped post.
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>>168959393
Oh, there's a missing star.

Well then, absolutely fuck that banner.
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>>168947858
I actually started doing squats because of the squat poster.
Similarly, I actually started hating comics because of the comic poster
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>rest of JP VIII events are all filler
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>>168963609
Ultimecia was the least interesting character in VIII, and this game really had the shit end of the stick when it came to villians other than Edea. They couldn't even do anything worthwhile with her in Dissidia. She could only hang around with the Emperor while he plotted evilly.
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>>168948123
I'm getting mileage out of Jecht, but only because I'm underpowered and he slams a giant Dark element rock into do-gooder faces.
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>>168963609
Kiros and Ward soon
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>>168963374
fuck off
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>>168963935
Someone else mentioned it, but it's not that the OSBs suck. They are really useful as long as you can hit a weakness, and can generally do at least as much damage as a BSB over time as long as you are using wrath/lifesiphon. The lack of any other effects like buffs/debuffs or other stat boosts makes BSBs better in more situations.

>>168964005
Seriously, those two are actually playable, so why aren't they in already?
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>>168958203
that wasn't me, I never post about FE over here out of nowhere. but thanks for the heads up, I switched in henry to fulfill some mission and forgot to change him out
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>>168956962
>>168944537
wait hold on we get FIVE relics from the guaranteed? for real?
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Does anyone know if there is a way to extract audio from mobius? like from the steam files?
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>>168964608
no

that is supposed to be five star but the symbol didn't copy
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>>168964608
No, the post left out the star(*). It's "all 5-STAR drops are utter shit".
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You know how DQ XI has two versions, one is traditional 3D and the other is SD 3D and top-down sprites for it's console and handheld versions?

XVI is going to be like that.
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>>168964704
I don't know about them being shit, but you wouldn't want to bother with them on a full price banner.
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>>168964667
>>168964704
wew okay for a second i thought it might be decent

what a fool i was
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>>168964802
maybe if it was a free pull

but we'll get that on ultros and it'll be better than this banner so idk what the fuck dena is pulling
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>>168964776
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>>168964776
no XVI will be a MMO
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So I've gotten all the shiva stuff out of the exchange in mobius. Is there a reason for me to continue doing multiplayer? Seems like there isn't much here yet.
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>>168965117
No, XVI is going to be super high tech like tron.
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You're actually playing XVI right now.
You're losing.
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>>168964482
What's your friend code? Whenever I ask for /ffg/ codes on /feg/, no one responds. Meanies.
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>>168963331
All 3 realms I need synergy for. I'll be rollin'
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>>168965636
>actually browsing /feg/
that place is cancer desu m8, too much waifufaggoty going on. my code is 4524706145 pls don't get mad /1guy/ he asked
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>>168965636
>>168966040
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>>168966040
It's not as bad as people said desu imo desu except one thing bothered me: people just outright ignore questions for the most part except when it's "who should I 5*?" and then you can expect like 10 meme responses. It weird seeing so many posts go unanswered.

Also, sent a request. You'll know it was me.
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>Yams being autistic time
fuck off
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>finally get around to VIII ultimate
>it's another dark weak hero to beat up on
[VILLAINY INTENSIFIES]

forreal though when do we start getting some battles that aren't Dissidia rehashes?
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Do I need Multibreak for U++? How do I get their damage under control?
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>>168966918
I actually like the "Dissidia" U+ battles. I want to fight Cloud+Tifa.
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>>168967035
I beat them with the only mitigation being Wall and Full Break. Multibreak will help.
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>>168967035
Stacking breaks helps, but not having a native wall is rough since it running out after your 2nd use can really screw you. Irvine and Mustadio's multbreaks stack with normal Full Break and the breakdowns, so that's a different if rarer option. What kind of healing or defensive options do you have soul break-wise?
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Bought ff10 off of steam a few days ago, played up until the blitzball part and stopped. I absolutely hated that part when I was a kid and always made my dad win it for me... Someone give me the motivation to suffer through it again
Also I am so happy no one told me they remastered? the soundtrack too, HD Besaid is gorgeous and I was pleasantly surprised
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>>168968527
Jecht shot is a thing, you know. Also, the only time blitzball is mandatory is the first time against the luca shitters.
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>>168967751
I have native ss2. I guess you guys are saying that's enough with protect (or shell?) and breakdowns arent needed?

>>168968527
The blitzball part is fun if you don't care about winning vs the Luca Goers so much. It's also not even that long.
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>>168968827
Yeah I'm at the mandatory one. I feel the need to win because Tidus made an ass of himself and now I'm taking it personally..
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>>168968527
Like the other guy said, you don't HAVE to do it and honestly it takes a bit of getting used to before it's fun and even then it's just a side thing.

Also in general, the game really starts getting going after then so it's definitely worth playing past that. One of the things that motivated me was getting to hear the boss music despite the bosses themselves being a total pain in the ass.
>>168968968
Tidus pretty much always makes an ass of himself desu. Just try to think about the tits instead. Not Titus's tits but Lulu's I mean.
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>>168968910
It depends on the boss and the level of your characters. Personally, unless it's a nightmare boss that's totally immune, I always bring some good support character. The only time it bites you in the ass is when the boss has a nasty counterattack.
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>>168969058
>bosses being a pita
You just reminded me that FFX story bosses actually posed a decent challenge, especially Sinspawn gui, seymour and the thing you fought at the ronso mountain.
BE FFX event when??
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>>168969379
never ever
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>no shout
>no wall
>no vessel of fate
When should i pull? I have 150 mythrils. I dont want to pull on tyrone meme selection 2 anymore
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>>168969887
Anniversary. In the meantime. RW shout if you have an AOE heal. If not, RW Sentinel's Grimoire/Stoneskin.
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>>168969965
Yeah, i always manage to beat U+ event but cant survive any U++. I think if i have one of them i can clear it.
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So guys, for the Gilgamesh trial, I was thinking of bringing as DPS

Luneth with Chirijiden and Rune Blade

and

Bartz with Golem staff and Trident

To get all the elements, but I feel like fitting CoD as main DPS would be much better since she has man eaters that stack with diablos?
I'm trying to do a setup for the five man mission too, but the last two spots will probably go to a Cecil for provoke and Refia, and most likely a Noctis support, but I don't think I can get a whale Noctis that covers Luneth's role (Or maybe I will with Shirijiden and Excal, we'll see)
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>>168969887
Pull anyways.
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>>168969379
Man I remember when I started the fucking big ochu gave me such a hard time for some reason. I think it did some status effect and it kept killing me, There was also that one seymore version with reflect and an add that kept healing itself. Honestly so many of the FFX bosses left a huge impact unlike a lot of other game's bosses.
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>>168970608
it spams sleep and blind.
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>>168970541
Bartz is great for more than just the elemental coverage because you can also use him to refresh your healers.

Yes, I said healerS. You need two.
Luckily catslut is on the way.
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Got room for one more.
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>>168971371
What if they release 6* Tilith? Will you need two then?
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>>168972109
Of course not, as long as she has safety bit.

Oh by the way GL doesn't have safety bit so everything is fucked. Nobody but the luckiest sons of bitches will be able to beat Gil.
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>>168970541

Whats the deal with this? Gilgamesh is a 'hit the right element' boss?
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>>168972558
He uses super special "fuck you to death" moves unless he is hit by certain elements every turn.

So say you don't hit him with water: He rapes your face.
If you don't hit him with wind: He rapes your ass
If you don't hit him with holy: he rapes both
...etc.

The best way to limit rape is to hit him with every single element every single turn. The only ones he doesn't care about are dark, ice, and thunder. Otherwise you need full coverage.
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>>168973031

Fire, Earth, Wind, Water, and Holy then? Fuck that's cumbersome to fit into a team
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>>168971371
Cecil is acting as an off healer/tank/buffer/alternate dispeller
And I have Refia with DC so I thing doing the five man mission is sorta viable?

I was just wondering if CoD would beat Luneth, DPS-wise (then again my one and only DW would go to Bartz and Luneth has passive DW, CoD would only have Diablos stacked with Thorn Mace and maybe have her on full barrage/Call of the Void duty)
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>>168973365
Bartz with dual wield golem staff and trident can cover Wind, water and earth
Rain can cover a total of FOUR elements with Lava Floor and two more weapons of different elements, it's not impossible but it'll be hard.

Also look at this

Kill with LB - 10% Trust Moogle

Party of 5 or less - +30% atk materia

No item - Abilitiy with def ignore and dispel that costs 60MP
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>>168973365
It's really not.
Rain alone can cover 4 of the 5 with the right equips.
Most units can cover at least 3 with DW (which you'll need anyway).

The real problem is that you need redundancy. You can't just have one copy of each element, because what happens when he uses his instadeath?
If Rain is your only source of Holy/Fire/Earth/Wind, your whole team gets wiped the second he dies (even if you revive him he can't move until the next turn).
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>>168973659
>what happens when he uses his instadeath?
You can provoke that attack and let him kill Cecil though.
Unless RNG screws you up and decides to IK someone else despite provoke, which is a what? 15% chance of happening?
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>>168973726
80% is not 100%
Rain's automatic cover means 80% isn't even 80%

It's an insanely long fight, and even a small chance of something going wrong will become inevitable after 100 turns.
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>daily pull for Leon
>get 4 Firion instead

REEEEEEE FUCK OFF
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>>168973659
>not S/L when that shit happen
smhtbhfam
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>>168973864
At least it's our boy Firion.
I got the ukulele dude.
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>>168973365

Can probably Dual Wield Luneth with Excalibur when I get it and one of the 50 Fire Swords I have to get that coverage.

There's Trident for Water, and several Wind Weapons I can throw on Firion with Dual Wield.

Think that would leave a Dark Fina friend with Stonga or something.
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>>168973523
CoD has no elemental coverage, so it really doesn't matter how much damage she does. Luneth can equip two different elements in addition to dealing some nice damage, so he's probably the better pick. Both aren't cut out for this trial though.

You want to have multiple sources of an element for when the fan gets shit on.

The five man mission isn't meant to be accomplished without chainmeta. Orlandu is necessary before even whales will accomplish that. Setzer is necessary before us normal folk will be able to accomplish it.
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Beatrix is so cool. Outside of the whole genocide thing.
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>>168973659
>>168973652

Is full break possible on gilgamesh or is he immune? I should probably start leveling rain if so, if not then i can stick with bartz or even my own gil
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>>168974124
Genociding rats is not a crime. I kill rats when they show up in my garage.
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>>168974191
Only his MAG can be broken, but it's important to break it. His attacks are based on both his ATK and MAG stats (hybrid damage), so it reduces them a little bit.
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>>168967035
It would be extremely useful.
I couldn't afford it, so I brought a sup4 with PBD and a sup5 with FB/MBD.
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>>168974221
THEY'RE NOT RATS
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>>168973925
You can use Rune Blade if you're poor, as an Excal replacement.
Also, I think Chijiriden + Blade Mastery gives him even more damage and element coverage
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>>168974292
I thought it was 100% immune?
That's good to know
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>>168943309
>>168942571
It's trash. The updated graphics are ugly.
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Is XIII worth playing? I ignored it on release because I thought it looked terrible but I was thinking recently of giving it a shot.
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>>168973365
Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked
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>>168975205

Its almost done.

No Chijiriden. Vernard will have to do (Sword Mastery and +10% ATK = 30% ATK). Not quite Chijiriden and Blade Mastery, but can't be helped. Chizuru is only at 43% TMR and without a Katana its not so useful (until the trial Katana anyway).
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>>168975956
not really
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>>168959713
57 currently, I can do 3 more in the close future.
>arena points
>steal
>peerless chemist
I could also spam creating Libra and Bronze Knife for other two trophies.

Now, pushing for 70 will be an actual challenge.
I honestly see the Colosseum ones as the worst, and frankly unattainable. I'm literally halfway through them and we had months of colo-only, and now I only do the 3 colo fights for the ebin daily labis.

I mean, even JP whales regards the Exceed Ring as a luxury and most of them don't even go for it.
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>>168975956
>Looked
Nig don't lie, you're just trying not to say you are parroting what other people said. The game looks great in pretty much every way. The thing that makes the game shit is the characters which you wouldn't even really know about if you haven't played it.

That said, the characters are really shitty but if you can bear with it, it's definitely still worth playing. The story isn't the best but it has some good moments, the world and the monsters all look really cool especially when you get to gran pulse, and the music is also really nice.

Again, the story and the characters are truly the weakest point and some others may dump on the gameplay as well but I still think it's worth experiencing even if you don't like it. In my opinion, even as what's one of if not the worst FF games it's still really solid as you can't really say any of the core games are actually bad.
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SO I got to the infamous couldn't steal anything boss in FFIX.

How long after is it until I can purchase the fairy flute from the store instead? I spent about 20 mins stealing and almost fell asleep doing so.
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>>168976050
You gotta work with what you have available man.
I don't have an Excalibur but I have Rune Blade, on the other hand I have both blade mastery and Chirijiriden so hopefully that makes up for it.

I don't think we can add damage with more killers other than Man eater?
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>>168976435
Nigger I stole from that boss - and ALL others for that matter - in my Excalibur II Lv1 Perfect Run.

Gid gud.
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>>168976041

>not the holy nation and their crusades
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>>168976435
you can get like 3-4 dungeons later. You will be passing up on haste, esuna, regen skills.
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>>168976406
I went over to my friends house when it came out and it seemed like the combat just consisted of switching modes from attack, heal, and magic and mashing the button. The music was really nice though.
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How do you break the 9999+ cap with autos in Mobius? Do I have to have a card like Enfire?
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>>168976386
>most of them
Nigger, literally zero of them have exceed ring.

Not a single person has crafted one.
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>>168977140
For real?

What's the fucking point in implementing something that not even turboautistic whales from JP attempt to do?
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>>168976457

Man-Eater is probably the best way. Don't think we have access to the Star Quartz Man-Eater Materia yet though, so pretty much just Diablos
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>>168977368
content to work towards, one thats near impossible the devs dont have to keep updating it
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>>168977368
For real.

There was even an update with instant crafting times a few months back for JP.
It hasn't changed shit.
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What am I doing with my life desu
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/114492-final-fantasy-record-keeper/75014945

>it's another "DeNa hate phys darkness" episode
Did the devs got cucked by a rl dark knight or something?
Also
>another Caius' sword clone
WHY
Fucking give me Caius insted of literal whos like Nabaat and shitters like T0
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>>168977647
That's not impressive considering you can just leave it AFK half the day.
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>>168977647
Did you actually play it for 10 hours straight? Or did you macro?
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>>168977679
Yeah but I've still been at my computer for the majority of that time.
>>168977865
>Macro
What do you think this is, BE? I probably played more like 6 hours total of me using elixirs and farming cards for ability levels with auto on and playing RK at the same time as well as doing multiplayer for nothing more than looking at shiva's nice midriff.
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I've got two ffg anons that are on my friends list who haven't logged on in 12 days. How long do you guys keep inactive ffg anons on your friends list for?
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>>168978114
>Shiva for hours on end.
I really hope you roll Shiva 3* that sounds unbearable at 2*.
>Yo I'm joining with my 2 panel Onion Knight!
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cleared out my friends list if anybody needs a friend
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>>168943110
>Like the first Final Fantasy Explorers game, Final Fantasy Explorers Force be a multiplayer RPG, but up to five players can collaborate instead of just four. The game will again allow the players to occasionally transform into heroes from past Final Fantasy games; the magazine shows images of Final Fantasy VII's Cloud, Final Fantasy VIII's Squall, Final Fantasy X's Tidus, Final Fantasy XII's Vaan, and Final Fantasy XIII's Lightning. It will also feature eidolons such as Ramuh, Bahamut, and Titan.
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>>168975071
I kill roos when they show up in my garden m8
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>>168979254
AUSSIES GET OUT
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>>168978792
Any info on whether the Exosuit thingies are going to be slightly redesigned or totally different?
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>>168979254
Afterwards do you make some shrimp on the barbie with your dingo friends?
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>>168979630
Man hopefully just a slight redesign, they looked awesome
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>>168978264
I'll usually keep them for a month before banishing them to the shadow realm
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>>168979630
Just enough to stop triggering Saban I hope.
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I'm about to play FFIX on PC. Any recommended mods? Nothing that improves the backgrounds?
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>>168980063
Now why would Sabin get triggered at power rangers?
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>>168980398
Was not funny the first time, still isn't funny now
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>>168980396
The backgrounds are generally pre-rendered meaning you have to completely scrap and redo them to mod in new backgrounds
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>>168980543
Are you sure? I thought it was funny when the other guy did it the other time(s). Maybe you should just learn to appreciate Sabin more.
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>>168978509
Adding you, Im a daily ftp shitter with a Yun
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> stacked double hand with World Breaker materia
> on fucking Ayaka

Some people must be really bored. Or somebody wanted to do his own Nanoha build to befriend the shit out of the enemy.
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>>168980063
Why is Noctis so fucking cute? I just want to pet his stupid hair and feed him cookies. I bet it's really soft.
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>>168964776
No. XVI is going to be a smartphone mainline title.
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>>168980945
It's so you'll miss him more when he gets Anthy'd.
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>>168977647
Should I keep playing?
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>>168977675
Caius a shit
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BORN TO DIE
EOS IS A FUCK
Kill Em All M.E.756
I am king man
410,757,864,530 DEAD LUCIS CAELUMS
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>>168980945
This game made me feel like shit, I was mourning for days. And then going back to play made it worse because he is so oblivious on what's about to happen and then playing the Carnival made me feel even more terrible because that's probably his happy place inside his head to deal with the horrible stress he is under. He is so pure and innocent that his happy place is hanging out at a carnival with a furry little creature instead of some sexual orgy. I bet he died a virgin unless he experimented with Prompto or some shit.
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>>168985192
He probably fucked Bahamut to pass the time inside the crystal.
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>>168984792
What
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>>168985192
>implying he and Carbuncle didn't get it on from time to time
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>>168965636

I can post the /feg/ doc if you need it ?
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>>168986087
no
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Which FF character do you want to cuddle with, /ffg/?
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>>168985761
I kind of wish I was Carbuncle so that I could get away with licking the prince.
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>>168986329
Noctis
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>>168986329
Red XIII would be the fluffiest
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Just finished FF15. Did Tabata single handedly ruin a good game or is there anyone else you can blame for that? He's a fucking megalomaniac.
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>>168973652
5 or less and no item easily covered.
Just glitch the kill :^)
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>>168985192
I'm honestly surprised there's no Gurren Lagann crossover art with Noctis and Prompto as Kamina and Simon yet.
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>>168987246
How?
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>>168986329
Noctis, yesterday while they were in the car Noctis farted and Gladio and Prompto started waving their arms in disgust and I thought, 'wow Noctis is human too'.
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>>168987310
Start battle. Close app. Switch device (might have to wait inbetween, I dunno). Game proceeds to victory screen.

Did it with antenolla and dragon, doesn't work with the multiple battle trials.
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>>168986329
Iggy desu
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>>168987951
>there will never be a season 2
;_;
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>>168986329
It probably wouldn't be very comfortable given his outfit, but that is far below worth caring about.
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I only have enough money for one, so which should I get for my Vita, Duodecim or Tactics War of the Lions?
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>>168989037
>Vita
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>>168989037
Duodecim
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I've got one 50 mythril pull budgeted before the anniversary.

Should I go for Fujin BSB, Quistis BSB, or take a chance on the fabulous mystery box that is the combat nightmare?
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>>168986486
Noctis is CUTE!
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>>168989037
Pirate both with PPSSPP
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>>168989123
Neither, unless either of those is your waifu.
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>>168985734
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>>168948936
Wait 2 more days mate.
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>>168989294
I don't support piracy
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>>168948936
You'll know it when people start posting their terrible freebie pulls full of Rosas and Garnets
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>>168988028
Well shit I'll have to try it out.
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>>168989698
Enjoy being poor
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>>168989839
I'm not poor.
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>>168989523
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>>168989210
>>168986486
>>168984792
>cutest child
>prettiest prince(ss)
>handsomest king
Lucis Caelum family has some good genes.
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>>168990278
I couldn't protect shit, that's what I felt like when I finished. The Chocobros are probably dead too.
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>>168990125
You can't even afford two ancient PSP games
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>>168986329
Raya-O is for cuddling and marriage!
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I really like this picture I got.
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>>168977647
doesn't that game have energy like in BE? how can you play so much?
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It just occurred to me that the reason Noctis has engine blades is because of Solheim.
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>>168991024
It does, but they hand out energy refills like crazy. I've been playing since day 1, use them quite frequently and still have 120 or so in stock.
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>>168986329
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>>168986329
I would cuddle with Celes non-sexually and then sexually while reminding her that she's not a monster.
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>>168977647
How? It literally forces me to close the game after the 6 hour one
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>>168990864
Does she have chicken pox?
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>>168992230
No anon. They're this magical thing known as freckles and they're adorable.
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>>168992267
> poor genetics
> magical

nahh
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>>168992470
Her genetics are perfect. Perfect!
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>MFW Some folks got Soldier 1st Class first try
>I'm 7 Supreme Summons in and still no new Job card
Even with all the free summon tickets in the world I still can't get the damn job
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>>168992470
>> poor genetics
She is a Padjal, a half-divine evolution of Hyur. Even if she lives to be 100 she would look exactly as she does now. You could not possibly locate superior genetics.
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https://youtu.be/fdG29qLBizE
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>>168992870
Is the chance for this and Great Gospel per card or per summon? Like, it the 6 ticket summon a much bigger chance than the 5 ticket one? I guess it dpeends on if you get them as well or instead of something else
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>>168992503
>>168992881
just dont get her anywhere near sunlight
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>>168993387
Why not? She spends all day outside and she's fine.
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>>168993387
Sunburn can probably be purged with Esuna.
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>>168992881
>waifu doesn't grow old with you
Into the trash she goes
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>>168993767
Do NOT bully her! She already worries she'll never get married and such rude remarks are not helping. She would be a wonderful wife.
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Warpstriking with this feels really satisfying.
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ded thred is ded
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>>168977034
increase ability level and unlock the 9999+ break hidden ability
The needed ability lvl and card * lvl depend on the card. Sicarius cards allow you to unlock it at 3* and ability lvl 6.
But for many you need card 4* and ability lvl 8. For some you need 5*.
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>>168993206
It's supposed to be per card. the difference between the GCS and the 4* is supposed to be within a few percent.
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>>168990864
Why doesn't anybody her horns?
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Gilgamesh trial is coming up. I'm thinking:

DW Noctis Chirijiraden/Trident
DW Rain Survival Edge/Rune Blade
Luneth Wind Katana/Bernard/Water Blade ability
Refia Golem Staff
Cecil Golem Staff (can you get two?)/Water Blade ability

Hopefully Noctis brings enough MP Regen with Cover.
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>>168995770
What about her horns?
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>>168986329
Mjrn

>ortofrutta paine
You have shit taste, captcha.
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>>168995814
I was wondering if an Excal/Kaiser Knuckles Yun and Viking Axe/Golem Staff Bortz would cover all 5 elements well enough.
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>>168995738
cool, thanks anon. I still need my cloud card so i'll save a little longer then
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>>168996085
The thing is that he has 100% ST Death on his thresholds, so if he takes down the only person with an element you're fucked.

Elemental weapons and spellblade moves will be really useful.
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>>168996519
don't we get safety bits or something soon?
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>>168996519
What's the thing with Elements exactly? link to a decription of the fight?
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>>168997609
https://mediacraft.rockuapps.com/articles/ff-brave-exvius-trial-boss-guide-gilgamesh
read the attacks section
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>>168997609
You have to hit him with Earth/Wind/Fire/Water/Light every turn. Each element will seal one of his moves for that turn. Somebody the moves drain MP, inflict status, etc etc.
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>>168996615
If we do then you can theoretically solo him with a 100% evade character. Provided that they don't give him any magic in GL.
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>>168998109
That would mean Ling with 4 Speed+ and safety bits would be an essential part of a team then.
>AoE Revive
>AoE debuff atk/mag and def/spr 45%
>AoE 30 MP recover
>Chakra for self heal and MP restore, not to mention auto refresh
Seems to me that anyone with ling is gonna have an easier time with the Gilgamesh Trial
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>>168998641
people who have Ling have an easier time at anything tbqh. She's very versatile.
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>>168998641
Provided they bought the Speed+ (maybe those will return with Type-0 2). And the safety bit is unreleased still.

I think if you could juke Noct or 6* WoL to 100% evade that would be a better choice, as they have 100% provoke to ensure the death hits them.
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>>168998890
Yeah true. Probably one of the best support units out there right now.
>>168998954
Yea that seems like a better idea. Also, if you don't have WoL or Noctis (if you don't count Noctis Friends) you could possibly use Snow. He already has draw attack passive plus provoke will make it so that he is targeted 100% of the time. He even has aquastrike which would cover one of the elemental bases.
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>>168999314
Snow is a great choice! His mitigation is a little low but if you went in hard for Noctis you might have equip shield materia.
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>>168998890
>>168998641
>tfw pulled for ling on the event but never got her
kill me senpai
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>>168999494
I think you could also pull the mirage vest combo with him too. Since he is gonna be targeted All (or at least most) of the time, you could negate 2 of the physical attacks. Though, it might not work as great since it's like a 2 turn set up.
>>168999502
Yeah I spent like 9 tickets until I got her. Got lucky in not spending any more than that
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>trying to beat up the Bronchasarus
>snort
Fuck this move.
I really need to level up that Chizuru I got. Not having a real physical dps is hurting.
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>>168999728
Well, if you knew you were going to hit the threshold next turn and could provoke that would probably work
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>>169000453
True, that would make mirage vest a more viable strategy.
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>>169000145
Snort is the worst if you're just starting out. Do you have a good Noctis whale?

I can't remember if Snort is telegraphed, but if it is then you can use Noctis's jump to avoid it.
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>FFII banner ends tonight
>still no Leon
I don't need his TM, right?
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>>169000968
Pretty sure you have another day or two.

And he's in the pool forever, so you can still get him.
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>>168977034
I don't think you can with autos. You have to use ultimates to do crazy damage if you have a high attack stat.
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>>169000826
It's the fight in the moogle place so I can't bring a friend. I actually brought it to about 30%~ or so, even after my Exdeath was snorted early. But I gave up when it snorted my WoL so I didn't have Full Break anymore to tank meteors.
>>168949140
Is what I'm using atm, with changes like some debuff immunity items, icebrand on Locke, ect. Also I can't time elemental chains worth shit.
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Hey guys. I'm looking for a way to sell my FF Record Keeper account, where do I go? It is a pretty insane account, lots of useful bsb. Is it legal to sell accounts by the way? Also, if anyone in here is interested we can work something out. I don't have time to play anymore so I would like to part with it getting some money.
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>>168997932
>Party of less than five: +30% ATK Materia
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stylish as always
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>>169000968
It be pretty good on units like Gilgamesh. A pretty nice set up for Gilgamesh after the Gil Trial (assuming if you beat it and got all the rewards) would be
>Left hand - Excalibur
>Right hand - Genji Blade
>Head - Dark Helm
>Body - Demon Mail
>Accessory 1 - Genji gloves
>Accessory 2 - your choice (maybe hero's ring)
>Materia 1 - Blade Mastery
>Materia 2 - Dark Knight's Soul
>Materia 3 - Atk 30%+
>Materia 4 - Seal of destruction
This is basically gonna be my set up once I am down TMR farming my current set.
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>>169001974
>>Accessory 2 - your choice (maybe hero's ring)
Take the hit to ATK and make it a Ribbon for your sanity's sake
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>>169001974
Leon's TM requires a sword, not a great sword
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>>169002796
or if lacking seal of destruction, Discernment and use something else than ribbon
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>>169001514
>>168997932
>can't decide if the author of that article is a guy
>look at more pictures of them
>they are one of those mentally ill cosplayers who make their eyes bigger in photoshop
also that article is from Sep 2016. who knows if we will have the same achievement rewards as JP
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When is BE gonna get more FFIX units? Seriously, we got Amarant and Lani, but no Steiner, Beatrix or Eiko?
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Already got knight.
How do they compare?
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>>169005896
Lol
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>>169006371
;_;

I can believe
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>>168992163
Doesn't it just give you the option to quit or keep going at 6 hours?
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>>169005920
Paladin is better right now. Knight is better on JP because of the custom skill panels that haven't been released to Global yet.
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>>168991124
What scene is this from?
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>gonna have to pull again for Dark Cloud
goddamnit. Got my Knights of the Round though. Should I work on augmenting it or Hermes?
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>>169007056
KotR is preffered.
The only support card with more than one buff that's better than Hermes.

At least until they release one with haste, boost and faith.
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What to so with Ace, Attack Handx2 (dual wielding Ace) or a single Thundaga

this in the ELT event,
Party is CoD Luka, Arc, Mercedes and Friend Dark Fina

My idea is basically nuke with Thundaga in the first turn, but dunno if it would be better to ignore one Thundaga out of 6 and use 2 Attack Hand
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>>169001395
Whew. Did it.
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>>169006643
I dunno wtf is with steam mobius. Randomly after 4 hours, sometimes the message I get is a forced shutdown. had it happen at 4 and 6 hours but got to 10 once
i should stop playing this before bed
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>>169007421
I'm 99% sure you can just click that message away senpai
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>>169007389
did you beat ELT dreadnaught?
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>>169007379
Just equip a lightning elemental weapon on Ace and use Wild Card. Attack Hand doesn't work with DW anyway.
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>>169007389
good job anon
enjoy the bow
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>>169007715
If the reward for that is the Axe that gives +HP, then yeah, got WoL wielding that.
>>169007770
Thanks. I just tossed it on Fina, since iirc Spirit doesn't effect heal amount? Or does it?
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>>169007715
>ELT dreadnought
>with that team
lol
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>>169007746
it affects Wild Card, why wouldn't it affect Attack Hand?
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>>169007379
Do you not have a Cecil yet? Slot him in Mercedes' spot so that he can draw the Captain's fire towards him. You also want to status the reinforcements that the Captain calls in so as to cripple them.
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>>169007842
ELT dreadnought is the 10% moogle
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>>169008012
>Do you not have a Cecil yet?
No, and Mercedes can Flee from battles making every try actually beareable
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>>169008013
Oh I didn't then.
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>>169008109
You do know that you can graviga the randoms in ELT Dreadnaught right? With the Dark Fina friend just use Osmose/Graviga and have Arc finish them off with Firaga or Thundaga.

Mercedes is dead weight against the boss since she can't do anything. Even Kefka is better than Mercedes if you want an escape user since he can do damage against the boss unlike Mercedes.
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>>169007495
No anon, there are two separate ones and one forces you to close the game.
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>>169007984
Because that's a property of Wild Card, normally magic abilities are unaffected by DW.
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>doing Elt
>Mines survive with a pixel fo health
>my team when
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>>169008346
I see thanks
Gonna swap her with Rydia, since I lack Kefka or Cecil and use that tactic to beat the randoms

Oh how do I regret ignoring that Tree now
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>>169008759
same. so dumb
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>>169008905
You had a tree all this time and never leveled him up? Dang man since tree is literally the best freemium mage, even better than Ace the shitter in terms of magic damage since he also carries Graviga and DC and Osmose.

I would bring your Elixirs/Tent/Unicorn Horns/all ether variants/Chocolate/Phoenix downs/and X/Y-Potions and make sure to tent up before the boss. I forgot to bring my tent and I still crushed the ELT Dreadnaught captain with Exdeath/Dark Fina/Cecil/Luka/Ling with a Noctis friend for his Comeback/Cover and Fire/Thunder Flasks.
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>>169009367
I actually swapped Ling for CoD, should I swap her back?
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I can't ever beat the ELT versions of these events. i give up.

and I think the PRO axe I just got replaced my axe that I spent 50k candies on
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>>169001050
I think I've seen Rangers doing it, maybe that was a fang skill but I believe it was autos.

>>168995624
Did you even read?
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>>169009770
>and I think the PRO axe I just got replaced my axe that I spent 50k candies on
Pretty sure ffg kept saying that would happen when that event was going on
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>>169009736
CoD is dead weight unlike Ling who brings the same support value and has AoE Raise and her AoE 30 MP refresh alongside her AoE Esunaga. All CoD has in this battle is her AoE Esunaga and nothing else since the boss resists phys damage.

>>169009770
The Gigantaxe is good for my tanks while the Gigas Axe is good for my damage dealers.
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>People here will get rainbows on their free 10+1 and be happy about it and post about it
>I won't
>Serious risk of quitting forever due to salt

I wish we never got free rolls.
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>>169009770
the difficulty between them varies in retarded ways, I've beatn ELT events before but these last 2 were hards as fuck, couldn't beat Valentine's and this one might be the same, but I might just need a better team combination

>>169009770
In my case, I have DW being swapped between Ace and Mercedes so she got both

>>169010031
I got CoD equiped with a Staff and mage equipment for Thundaga spam, but you might be right, Is the boss affected by any debuff?

Basically, I know I can beat this event,, if I can manage to get rid of the asshole mines in one turn
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>>169009792
I was writting as the thoughts came to me and didn't really think about reading it before posting.

Your post was as ambiguous tho since it was asking about "auto" and not about normal attacks.
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>>169009884
The axes have different uses. One's for attack, the other is for tanks.
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>>169010116
I got noctis on the free rolls during China week. You can do it anon.
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>>169010243
The boss is affected by MAG and SPR debuffs. So it's only good to raise the magical DPS of your units. It's more important to take a DEF buff like Luka instead of Refia who will screw up the no white magic mission.

And CoD is a shit mage.
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>BE will never have a FFIX event
>there will never be ELT challenges against Hades and Ozma
>there will never be a Hades reward synth shop
>there will never be a Pumice reward from Ozma that lets you summon Ark
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>>169010532
>The boss is affected by MAG and SPR debuffs.
That settles it the Mercedes replaced by Ling and CoD for Rydia
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>>169010790
Also post units and I'll see whether or not I can build you a better team based off of what you have.

>>169010616
IX in BE is only useful for Zidane who has DW as his TMR. The rest are all crappy units with not even good TMRs to farm with Amarant getting outclassed by Guy who has his TMR but better.

Eiko/Steiner/Beatrix when Gumi/Alim? Alongside Zidane 6* and Kuja 6*.
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>>169010948
Yeah, I agree there should be more IX units. Wonder if they'd bother with Vivi and Steiner's combos.

And Kuja 6* needs Ultima
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>>169011082
The big problem is who between Eiko/Beatrix/Trance Kuja gets the 5* treatment. I see Eiko as a 4* base at best with W White Magic and Full-Life/Curaja in her kit, Steiner as 3* base that maxes at 5*. But between Beatrix and Trance Kuja, I think that Trance Kuja may have it in the bag to be the 5* base.
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>>169010948
Not pictured, Ariana but she whatever
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>>169011358
If they even do a Trance form of Kuja. I could easily see Beatrix being a base 5* based off her power in IX.

Eiko should have Holy too since she wrecks shit with it in IX
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>>169011486
Ace/Luka/Ling are definite slots. I guess Arc is too since he's decent as a mage. I guess for last slot put in Charlotte to tank since she's the best tank that you have or Faris to get that Focus/Full break support. Rydia is overkill and makes your party too squishy.

I feel that 6* Rain would be the best in slot for a tank/supporter/breaker for you though.
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>>169011554
Will they even give it to her though? I feel that Eiko is a 4* base that will likely be Ayaka-lite with W White/Curaja/Full-Life and they might leave it with that.
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Do you guys set macros for trust farming on Nox, if not that then what.

I've already spent tons of money and I've gotten 2 trust rewards and I'm still weak as shit. I need to start unlocking my trust rewards.
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Is there a(n) (online) cookbook of Ignis' recipes?
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>>169013025
I mean I'm just basing off FFIX, where she was the only unit that had Holy. Plus someone needs Holy because fuck relying on Exdeath's TMR for it
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>>169007028
Not a scene but from someone who used the barrier super noct glitch and is flying around the bottom of costlemark.

That person also found a room that leads to where Luna was in which makes it seem like it was intended for us to go the room room Luna was in.

https://bnbnb.tumblr.com/post/157508499561/bnbnb-excuse-the-speed-but-flying-noctis-is
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>>169013175
Beatrix had it too
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>>169013421
Did she? I guess I just never used it when she was playable.

Could definitely see her having it though.
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>>169012719
So I shouldn't try to get rid of the blue mines in one turn?

tried to get rid of them with caution before and I'm sure the second one explodes after a set amount of turns
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>>169013113
I started TM farming a few weeks ago, using a macro on memu

its worth using, got Excalibur, Sakurafubuki and now a few days away from 30% MAG. Those are aside from the two DW I got from the free moogles and stuff
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>>169013619
You should get rid of them as soon as you can but if you are using Dark Fina as your friend unit, DC Ultima with Focus support and Ling's Feint Dance should do enough damage to kill them in one turn with Arc DC Thundaga/Ace either using Thundaga/Tri-beam chiming in. Then use Dark Fina's Distress when the Captain calls in reinforcements to blind them and then kill them at your own leisure.

If you are worried that they will blow themselves up if you do not enough damage then just wound them to above 50% HP and then kill the mines turn 2. You get only 3 turns to kill the mines before they kill your team with Self-Destruct.
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>>168942301
>January update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/51933

The February update's been out for a while:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/52095-Feb.-10-2017-%28JST%29-Version-Update
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>>169013507
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I switched to the stable version of memu, and now it never has the freezing issue it did with the newer release.
Just finished my 2nd dw, and a doublehand to substitute until I get a 3rd dw.
Started to clear out fodder units I have 5 of, arc and xiaos.
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>>169014223
tfw I can't tm farm anymore because I can only play using a phone right now
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FFRK on Steam when?
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>>169014786
use a macro on your phone
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>>169013345
Hmm seems to be the same person who found out how to glitch the young and old parties in.

https://bnbnb.tumblr.com/post/156667329606/this-is-the-saddest-glitch-yet-he-doesnt-even
Holy shit.
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>>169014223

downloading that now, I'm guessing you mean Memu 2.8.6

can you recommend a macro file for TM farming which also refills energy with my lapis?
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>>169015570
Would if my phone had a built in one, don't feel like taking a chance with a downloaded one, much less trying to get it to work.
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>>169016090
As I said yesterday, reddit for info.
Macro megathread or whatever the name is.
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>reddit
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>Orlandu is literally never, ever, ever, EVER coming to FFBE
>next collection event is probably the next Type:0 event
>after that it'll be the GLOBAL EXCLUSIVE: ST. PATRICK'S EVENT where we collect shamrocks for incredible global exclusive equipment like another whip and another fist weapon with incredible units like St. Paddy's Paul (3* - 5*) and new base 5* Shamrock Skaha who is outclassed by everyone
>after that we'll have another shitty global exclusive Easter Event where we collect eggs and waste lapis rolling for Easter Bunny Baurg and Chocolate Carrie

The ride literally never fucking ends
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>>169015795
How do you get all your teammates to disappear?
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>>169016794
>make your own macro that accidentally spends all your lapis, deletes all your unlocked characters and needs to be manually restarted
>not stealing a good macro from redditors that you can leave on all night
:^)
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https://bnbnb.tumblr.com/post/156506659598/aranea-has-the-best-link-strikes
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>168973659
> Rain is your only source of Holy/Fire/Earth/Wind, your whole team gets wiped the second he dies (even if you revive him he can't move until the next turn).
that's why i'm bringing Vanille
>yfw Vanille 6* gets an AoE reraise
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>>169017292
>he forgot the ide's of march event, RK and BE crossover anniversary event, daylight savings event and april fools event

Shame on you
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>>169017292
don't forget the Dragon Quest collabs
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>>169017292
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>>169017545
Is she actually sitting on him?
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>>169017921
yeah. she also pee'd on him which is why he wipes his clothes
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>>169017517
>>make your own macro that accidentally spends all your lapis, deletes all your unlocked characters and needs to be manually restarted

Are you physically retarded?
It took me two tries to make a perfect reliable efficient macro, how could you possibly be incapable of this?
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>4* my Shiva Sicarus
>realize I didn't level my ability
Fuck should I just level a three then 4* it or tough it out?
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>>169017292
While pretty annoying, I'm still looking at it from the bright side:

> we got the gatcha change while JP had to pull him with the old system
> we can still continue to accumulate lapis and tickets until he comes out

Now if they add a 5* donut to his banner just to fuck with his pull rate, then GUMI can rot in hell.
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>>169018109
Hot.
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>>169017292
Don't forget the april fools event where they release orlandu and make everyone thing they pulled him on their first daily only to be rewarded with a brand new 6* sabin waiting for them in their unit inventory.
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>>169018287
I wish gumi had the balls to do something like that. it would be too funny.
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>>169018176
If you really dont wanna go through the hassle you can just use ability tickets to increase the level
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>>169007389
>killing your training room
idiot.

You need him to practice chaining. Now you'll never win.
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Bravely Default units in BE, yay or nay
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>>169017574
I'm worried about the fight because i can nail all the elements with dark fina and exdeath, but they're squishy

>>169017292
>people still butthurt over an overrated 5* base they won't pull
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>>169018210

that new Olive unit has to appear on something...
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>>169018176
Max out a 3* one, fuse it in to the 4* one, you'll get all the ability levels in one fusion because they share the same card name.
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>>169018847
nay
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>>169019038
I'm excited for Olive. Good timing that I farmed doublehand.
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>>169019062
Oh cool. Thanks anon.
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>>169019916
no you aren't
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>>169019038
Maybe.

I'll quit if I don't pull Orlandu with my saved up resources because that would be the last straw if Gumi goes jew tactics again.

I still have a JP account to fall back on.
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>>169020503
>if i don't get lucky blowing all of my resources chasing a 1% or worse drop rate unit that isn't even -that- good, i'll quit
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>>169018210
the problem with that is i'm saving every lapis and ticket for him while my team is in urgent need of better units. i'm still using a shit max 5* DPS and healer.
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>>169020503
>>169020917
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>>169020917
yes
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>>169021005
Doing it wrong.
TC won't make your shit party suddenly good.
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>>169021005
You're doing it wrong.
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>>169021654
I prefer the other version honestly.
>Cloud suddenly knows how to make the shadow clone jutsu
I know it's Final Fantasy but that was just unnecessary.
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>>169021654
>>169022579
>Dissidia is stupid! Final fantasy characters can't fly around like they do in that game!
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I like Genesis
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>>169020917
> unit that isn't even -that- good
> Orlandu
> not -that- good

Let me guess: You've never played JP.

Assuming a 0.5% chance to pull him, I would currently have a 47,6% chance (not including the increased chance from the 11 pull gold crystal) to get him. And my resources only grow in the meantime.

Now if the chance is halfed to 0.25% due to a donut 5*, then fuck this shit.
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>>169023086
I like you
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What job is this? I figured it was the Warrior of Light from Final Fantasy 1. However it's not on the wiki, is it still available?
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>>169021005
>gimping yourself waiting for a unit that needs tm attention and a good finisher unit to be decent
>one that would require having a second or having to limit your friend unit options on top of it to really shine
I'm getting sick of people falling for the "Cid is OP" trap. He's a 5* base chainer unit, he isn't going to magically fix a shit team
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>try to get my friends to play final fantasy IV
>need to keep reminding them to play the psp version and not the shitty steam version
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>>169021654
Did he use his fucking sword like a helicopter here? Now every time I see his win pose, I'll expect him to shoot up into the sky afterwards.
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>>169023124
>halfed
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>>169023305
no, it was only available for a limited time for 75 burgerbucks
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>Squall can't use dancer abilities
>>
FUCK
I give up I barely damaged the main guy anyway, and this is by dual spamming Ultima and Ace's Tri beam, Arc dual Thundaga

But this is the farther I've got in this
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>>169023124
For a new player or someone without tms he really isn't.
Don't have DW? Already chunked his potential by a lot.
Missed his event and don't have an Excalibur? More chunked potential.
Don't have access to a second one set up with the above? Also chunked.
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>>169023606
>75 dollaroos
Yeah fuck that. If they don't follow the Cloud trend I'm going to be dropping the game. Especially when SS rank jobs start dropping like Zidane and Lightning.

>>169023661
FUCKING DROPPED
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>grind out TMR team for a week or two
>get better TMR units
>swap out teams
>repeat
never going to finish any TMRs and none of my TMRs ever make it past 40%.
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>>169021654
>Cloud flies around in normal flower petal speed and Sephiroth just looks on dumbfounded

I guess it's understandable.
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>>169023864
I have enough TMRs to to equip the shit out of him.

At the point of release I'll probably the rest of my DPS TMRs finished that I could fully equip a second one.
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>>169023791
Your party is way too squishy. That looks like my Fina and i had issues keeping her up in that fight sometimes while having a dc Refia and beefy Cecil.
Having blind for any adds would help, but your party has way too low of hp.
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>>169023895
Will Wol prance around in Lightning's miniskirt and navel piercing?
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>>169024482
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>>169024482
It's her knight of Etro look. Still fucking gay though
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>RM/SB changed constantly.

I think it would be a better idea if you just stuck with one good utility as your RW.
I'm certainly not interested in using an Edea Ice Strike SSB ever.
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>>169024765
I've had Grimoire set as my RW since I got it in the very first lucky banner.
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>>169024616
>>169024618
hella gay
Miniskirt would have been funny.
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>>169024904
I've had it for a long time too, but barely anyone used it so I just changed it to whatever.
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>>169023124
How much lapis and how many tickets do you have?

If you have 48 tickets and 5000 lapis for one 11 pull, you would have a 46.9% chance of a rainbow crystal.

Now from that 46.9% chance there is a 50% chance it will be a banner 5 base. You would have a 23.45% chance of getting Orlandu.

If Orlandu shares the banner with another 5 base, you would have a 11.725% chance of pulling him.


If you get a rainbow crystal there is a 50% chance it will be a banner 5-base, and 50% chance it will be selected from the vast pool of ALL the 5-capable units.
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>>169025463
>and 50% chance it will be selected from the vast pool of ALL the 5-capable units.

No, 5* base only.
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>>169017292
>chocolate carrie
>skaha
i'd pull for that.
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>>169023895
>MFW They'll never take up the Japanese version's method of just giving you the job card as a bonus for doing the event Supreme Summon
>I'll never reclaim my Judge job when it comes out because my luck is so godawful that I can't even roll Soldier 1st Class after 5 multirolls
Why must SE hurt me like this
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Disciplinary committee down! The fact that seifer starts by casting his limit means you need good atb. My recommended rw is doomtrain. Casting it twice instantly nuked any one of them. I used it on fujin.
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>>169026025
>Get Beam Blade and First Class on the same roll.
>I was trying to get Flash Grenade but didn't realize you can't get it anymore.
Then I wasted 6 tickets on fucking Biggs.
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>>169023791
You should just put Luka on full heal duty for Negan/whoever the fuck dark fina you're using.

Use Dystopia every turn, and just make sure she's always around to cast it. That's all it takes.
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>>169026302
Forgot my picture.
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>>169026302
Soma Drop is pretty handy at least, I still wish I could get out of starter job hell though
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>>169025463
Right now, I have 85 tickets and 20900 lapis. Been saving up for a while now since most units released by Gumi are shit. My only regret is that I'm still stuck on fucking Lenna since 6* healer units keep escaping me.

As for the post change gatcha, the chance to pull a rainbow is 1%, which means a 50% chance to pull a 5* on banner unit, or 0.5% to pull the banner unit effectively. Hence my calculation with 129 basic pulls (85 tickets + 4x 11 pulls).
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>>169026519
Literally roll a Job Summon what the fuck are you rolling that's so bad?
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>>169026829
I tried that once, got a Ranger I have no cards for. I need a Warrior type for my optimal loadout and I'd rather get more cards with a chance of getting Soldier than roll another useless job I can't currently use
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>>169026658
>the chance to pull a rainbow is 1%
>I wasted that luck on the EMPRAH
Oh boy
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>>169008759
Happened to me as well.
That was butal.
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leveling on Timber Tracks is even more boring than TM farming manually.
please tell me we're getting the repeat between battles function in the next update
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>>168990550
Nah they're probably still alive. All the daemons would've died once Noctis activated sunlight and he was gunning for them living. I think he would know they're tough enough for that.
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>>169027020
Then buy cards motherfucker you an't getting anywhere for free. Windfang, Icefang, Stonefang, are like what 9 tickets?

You should have more than enough if you're doing the event.
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>>169027247
it goes by so fast though.
just go back and forth in the first car and do the same in the second to last room.
you don't even have to pay attention
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>>169027290
C'MON C'MON C'MON C'MON
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>>169027123
Even with his buffed rod, why would anyone want the EMPRAH?

Physical is the way to go and for future physical-resistant bosses, there's always based Setzer cheese.
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>>169026658
You should really learn to do math, you underestimated your odds quite a bit.

1-(((.995)^125)*((.975)^4) = 51.7% with the bonus crystals
So it's a coin flip. Heads you get Orlandu, tails you don't.
spoiler alert, you don't
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>>168990278
And none of those genes made it into Iris' womb.
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>>169027797
AOE stop might be ok in Arena? I dunno. I literally did a half pull and a single ticket pull on the banner and got him.
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>>169027290
>IT'S JECHT TIME!

>NO, DAD NO!
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>>169027846
As I said, the math was done without the 4* base crystals. A few % more, but still roughly a coinflip.

But your math including the 4* is correct.

>>169027901
For those investments, bretty gud. But he's not worth chasing.
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>>169028159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OfNgkxkM_o
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>>169028837
>played 30 hours of this game then stopped
fuck you anon for reminding me of that
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>>169029827
>85 tickets and four 11 pulls there's a 38.4% chance to pull Orlandu.

But >>169027846 has done the math correctly including the 4*. I have no idea what the fuck you calculated.

I'm also only going to quit if I can't pull Orlandu because Gumi fucked with the rates due to a donut 5*.

>>169020503
> I'll quit if I don't pull Orlandu with my saved up resources because that would be the last straw if Gumi goes jew tactics again.
> if Gumi goes jew tactics again.
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>>168944537
Disgusting. The only reason to draw on this is if it were free.
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>>168992163
>>169006643
>>169007421
Sometimes Echo just lets you keep playing. I find the "pls stop playing our game" and the force shutdown messages only happen sometimes. Maybe Echo just knows when your experience isn't full or rich anymore.
>>
How long should it take for me to unlock Light and Dark elements in Mobius if I'm in the start of Chapter 3 in terms of hours? I want to try and unlock the ability to use my Satellite Beam before I take on Mako Reactor Infinite
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>>169013787

ahh, I got it working flawlessly. I'll still whale for energy and pulls but no more whaling for repeat units to combine for +5%...
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>>169030635
Close but not quite.
1-(((.9975)^125)*((.9875)^4)= 30.46% chance of orlandu if it's shared with a donut.

You can't just split it in half like that.
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>100xp left to rank up
>60 energy left

just
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Is Caius the best FF villain?
Is he the most sympathetic?
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>>169031269
no
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>>169030763
>spending money just to get repeat units to fuse
I thought whales on /ffg/ were just a legend
>>
>>169021654
>>169022579
I've never really seen anyone talk highly about Advent Children on 4chan but I thought it was good when I watched it. Though maybe that was because I watched it 10 years ago when it came out but it was definitely still enjoyable. That one big speech Sephiroth gave really spoke to my edgy side and I watched that part specifically many times.
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>>169027290
What game is this from?
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>>169029535
You're welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Epp1E8dEMo
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>>169031887
Dark Souls 2
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>>169031887
>>169032090
Final Fantasy X
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>>169031887
Super Return of the Jedi.
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>>169031887
Ehrgeiz 2
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>>169031887
Final Fight
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>>169027290
Super PONG
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>>169031162
>Close but not quite.
You're right.

The rounded chance to the hundredth decimal would be 30.46%. That's not so bad if a donut is on it and even better if there isn't one on it. I take back everything I said earlier
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>>169031887
Dissidia Opera Omnia
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>>169031887
Xenoblade Chronicles
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>>169031887
Yiffalicious
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>>169034178
wow rude
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>>169034178
>Claims to hate feels
>Posts feels every thread
No, John. You are the feelposters.
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>>169030584
>Ever trusting a flying faerie.
That really awakens my crystals.
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>>169034870
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>>169035212
A gf?
>>
50 minutes until Onega Weapon murders everyone.
>>
As long as you keep responding to them, they are going to continue.

>>169035437
This fight sounds like such a pain in the butt. The physical attackers that I have non-elemental soul breaks for that are also single target are all underleveled at between 70-80.
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>>169032090
>>169032214
>>169032264
>>169032450
>>169032526
>>169032632

guys i'm not joking. is it dissidia?
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>>169035449
>Tfw you're the only one on the site who hates tfw images but you have to make it seem like you aren't
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>>169035804
yes
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>>169035874
Please don't.
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>>169035874
Why does this thread attract the most autistic people like this guy?
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>>169035914
I want to play dissidia now
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>>169036008
It's not quite Sonic the Hedgehog, but Final Fantasy is a pretty effective autist magnet.
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>>169035914
>Summon the opponent's dad to help kill them
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>>169036008
I'm sure every /vg/ general has its own collection of autists that makes them think they've got the most autistic people in the thread
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>>169036393
Knowing Jecht, it sounds like a believable gimmick. Every time you use an assist, Jecht shows up instead to beat the shit out of him.
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>>169027290
>>169035914
man this game had some neat moves. is the arcade version popular in Japan?
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>>169035914
thank you


also, is final fantasy 13 worth playing? asking because I'm almost done with 15 and want to know where to go next
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>>169036869
See >>168976406
I legit answered that very question to someone else yesterday..
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>>169036657
It seems limited by the fact it's an arcade game in fucking 2017. Plus they are adding characters one at a time at an absolutely glacial pace. The console version was talked about for a while, but a recent-ish interview said something about how they haven't even thought about what to do for the story mode shit so far. Plus there was some insane delusion about making it some kind of bit deal in the competitive fighting game scene, so who knows what the fuck is going on with it.
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>>169035874
Can this be the new focus of our autism?
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>>169037303
Why can't they just not fuck up a good thing?
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>>169037540
Well, the bright side is that the game looks fairly nice graphically, although I seriously have no idea if the combat is improved or not. The party system makes it look like a clusterfuck. Plus, at least it's not on a god damn handheld anymore. I just never really understood why anyone wanted to play it competitively to bing with, but with how serious people get over stuff like Smash Brothers of all things, I guess I am the dumb one.
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>>169027704
ONE MORE
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Time for you to eat them gigantuars and get me my 15%hp. Dont even think of benching my Refia you skank.

>Leveling an unit just for a single bossfight
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>>169039049
15% hp isnt even worth it
>>
Gentle reminder that the combat nightmare banner is NOT a trap and you should roll on it

Do NOT roll on the other nightmare banner though
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>>169029535
Same here. Bought a Wii for it, 20 hours in I realized it was just a shittier version of FFXII's gameplay, and I didn't even like FFXII all that much. I don't understand the love for it.
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>>169039440
OK
>>
Daily reminder that we are heading towards a donut filled meta.
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>>169039440
enjoy your Gau and Cloud SSB senpai
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>>169039440
Why isn't it a trap?
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>>169039232
Not my fault you arent capable of getting it.
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>>169039661
>using muh meta units
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>>169039049

Just do it without a healer.
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Ha ha! Time for the worst relic banner ever!

And also Omega Drive.
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>>169039738
It has 12 OSBs on it and a buttload of BSBs
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>>169039797
>caring about muh favorite characters when they are shit and you can't even complete the story OR they are not even in the game

This isn't RK. Tell that to all the Orlandufags waiting for him to drop.
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>>169040046
it also has bunch of outdated trash
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>>169039512
I really enjoyed the graphics (played on dolphin), music, stroy, thought it was all very well done.

But the battle system was just so fucking boring, man. I couldn't take it anymore
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>>169040174
>he can't clear content without using the top tier units
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>>169039512
I thought it was better than IZJS because I could do more than just press Attack and occasionally heal for 40+ hours.

Probably one of my top 10ish games of all time.
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>>169039440
>>169040046
Which one is the combat nightmare one? Which one do I roll/not roll on?
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>Mobius MP
>Guy afks.
>Guy comes back.
>Uses attacks that heal the boss.
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>>169040747
pull on both of them and post results
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>>169040747
The one that says "The Nightmare Relic Draw" and has Cloud and Lightning on it is the Combat Nightmare banner.

It has every SSB+ relic for every Combat 5* character in the game on it.

The one you DON'T want is the Select Nightmare Relic Draw that has Terra and Tyro on it. It has a really outdated limited selection.
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>>169040975
Are supers bad compared to overstrikes and bursts?
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So when Brahne hires Lani and The Flaming Salamander, she instructs them to get Dagger's pendant and kill Vivi.

Red-headed Man: "...What is that?"

Queen Brahne: "A soulless golem. A defect is running free."

In Japanese, she elaborates further on why she wants him dead:

Queen Brahne: "A heartless and non-human golem. A defect which needs to be dealt with before another country gets their hands on it."
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>>169039881
My man.
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>>169040561
Fuck i really want to grab Tifa's tifa and get punched after that
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>>169039512
Grow some taste and maybe you'll know.
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>>169041256
depends on the relic senpai
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>>169041256
Overstrikes are shit
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>>169041436
>>169041441
Okay I'm gonna do it. Are you guys sure about this?
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>>169041256
Some are top tier
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>>169041541
Don't waste your mythril, seriously.
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>>169041541
yeah senpai you won't regret it
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>>169041256
The problem with them is that they do good damage, but mostly in situations where you can abuse an elemental weakness. And other than the rare oddity like Orlandu's OSB, they don't come with any other buffs or effects.

>>169041541
The problem with these banners is that the pool is big enough that there is a lot of garbage mixed in with the better relics. I'd honestly do a little more research first.
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>>169041304
>titfa

Good man.
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>>169040659
Same, Chain Attacks are great once you get used to them. And playing as Melia is actually a lot of fun.
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>>169041668
>>169041728
>>169041842
I'm just going to keep hording and hope where's a better draw for specific guys I want. Which will probably be never
>>
Thanks nightmare bosses for reminding me how fucking stupid U++ Atlas was pre-OK/Maria
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>>169039881
>without a healer
>cecil
>>
What do I do with all these wind orbs? Can I trade them for ice and dark orbs?
>>
>rolled on then banner anyway
>pulled my first OSB
>it's the worst one in the banner

FUCK
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>>169043335
sell them for some easy $$$
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>>169043343
Tyro's?
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>>169043335
Given how many abilities they add that are only at 5*, you'll probably find a use for it eventually, even if you don't want to put them into something like powerchain or tiamat.
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>>169042879

Cecil only tanked. He did not heal.
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>>169043603
Worse

Gilgamesh
>>
Any upcoming FFRK banners I should be moist about?
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>>169044000
Anniversary banner at the end of march.
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>>169044000
Vayne's banner
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>>169044000
All people have talked about have been the OSB fest for the anniversary or whatever it's called that should be sometime after the next maint. A couple of the USBs coming up are sort of interesting, but didn't really seem game changing.
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So this omega weapon cuck. Is it a dps race? I assume magic blink is neccessary?
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That second phase had me sweating bullets.
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>>169043335
Powerchain R4
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>>169042301
>falling for the time-limited trap
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Post completed nightmare boards senpaitachi
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>Do daily pull every day on FFII banner to try getting Leon for his TMR
>Spend 20 tickets too
>The only on-banner unit I pulled was Firion

And 4 troll yellows too.
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>>169045679
I only got a bunch of Firion when I'd be happy with a few Guys instead.
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>>169044229
Cloud USB is far down the line but is starting to create another meta featuring relics like Ramza's Genji Gloves and Advance
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>>169045525
Missing the past two and curada. Not all are mastered either though
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>>169045525
Does anyone give a shit about nightmare dungeons outside of the 3 useful skills?
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So to people using the "ultimate" macro from Leddit for Earth Shrine TM.

How much would you say you can get per character per day (running 24 hrs) with enough lapis to keep refilling when energy runs out. It runs quite fast.

Hopefully I can get a few TM items and start being able to participate in the more difficult content.
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>>169046003
Lapis refills is a meme. In a month you can get 5 TMs as a free to play and they'll carry you through anything.
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>>169045927
yes
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>>169046003
dumb frogposter
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>>169046180
What units should I set to my TMR party, I've got 3 Zidanes, 2 Chizurus and 2 Cecils, along with an Alma, Ludmille and I'm sure a couple other good TMR units
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>>169046003
Most people here including me don't even have a TM or only Dual Wield and they can do every elite. Stop thinking TM farming is needed. At least for now, it's not at all.
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>>169045927
The only 6* skills i have ever used is snowspell strike or aegis strike and thats from motes. Throwing that on celes gives infinite uses so it's awesome
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>>169046180

I've already got tons of Lapis, so I'll just refill and let it run 24/7 to get some stuff I want.

I want to equip a Monk character with good fist abilities and equipment but I missed the Xun banner... fuck.
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>>169046383
In the long run you'd want both BM and Excaliburs. Ludmille and Alma aren't needed considering you'll soon be able to switch her.
I'd say Chizuru - Cecil - Zidane - Zidane - Zidane first. You can consider fusing one Zidane at 50% if you need.
Then Chizuru - Cecil - Alma - Ludmille or whatever else you have.
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>>169039661
WoL is better than Wilhelm (especially post enhance)
Teedus is better than Eileen (only post enhance)
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>>169046636
I also have a Shantotto if she's good for TMR

also where is this "ultimate macro". I saw the link a while back, but lost it. It has an option to do it without Lapis refills, right?
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what do you guys think? Dark Knight's Soul a TMR worth spending my lapis to get?
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>>169046830
Her TM is better than Alma's by far.

Just make your own fucking macro.
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>>169046830

Just google "reddit exvius macro", a redditer's got some really streamlined TM earth shrine macros and a guide.

Meh, you should do all your zidanes dude. Dual wield seems to be the most important in the game. I'm still working on my first one, you're lucky you have 3 zidanes. That's crazy.
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r8
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>>169046859
Yes, but don't go crazy about it like that other guy. 20 tickets wasted that could have turned into 20 tickets for Orlandu.
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>>169047005
>reddit
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>>169047005
Which emu is best to use?
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Guys, don't TM farm Zidane yet, wait for the player's choice banner, I'm sure he'll be the 3* united with a rate up so you'll be able to get more to fuse and if you whale enough you might not even need to run Earth Shrine
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>>169047387
memu or Nox, I used to use MeMu when I still played Exvius
>>
debate
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>>169047814
fuck off to /v/ with your shit meme.
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>>169047419
You need 20 zidanes for each TM.

Considering you need at least 3 DW, if not 4, that's not possible without a little grinding and mooglefeeding.
>>
YOU KNOW IT
YOU KNOW IT
YOU KNOW IT
YOU KNOW IT
YOU KNOW IT
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>>169047387

memu with the version he recommends in his thread. working flawlessly. latest memu version worked like shit.

>>169047230

I've never used it in my life, just went for the macro download.
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I'm so tired of losing the Ultimate event
first it was the FFT boss rush
then it was Barnabas
then Astos
now Squall

I'm so tired of wasting 60 stamina only to lose over and over and over again. I even came super close to beating Squall. But no, I lose again.

fucking
just fuck me up FFRK
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>>169048075
post team
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>>169047814
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>>169047814
>mobagefags
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>>169048075
set up two mages and find a cid raines bsb roaming warrior
easy mode
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>>169048002
Even for the no lapis macro?
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>>169048314
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>>169048075
>I'm so tired of wasting 60 stamina only to lose over and over and over again
Pst...Anon. Close the application when shit gets bad and then restart it, the game will let you restart the fight without using any stamina. Also how are you losing on Ultimate?
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>>169048497

Haven't tried it. I'm using the one that uses up your lapis. But it works great. I can work on my schoolwork while it quickly farms earth shrine. We should honestly put macro info in our OP under BE, or are we going to pretend we aren't using them for TMR
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>>169046003
at max speed you'll get about 1% an hour using lapis refreshes. you can trim it down to like 35-40 seconds per run. leave it on for a couple of hours with lapis to burn and you'll get a huge chunk of TMR

>>169046406
>im-fuckingplying people don't TMR farm
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>>169048208
>Squall
Level 70. BSB. Knight's Charge. Abilities are Double Cut and Armor Break.
>Ramza
Level 72. Shout and Tailwind. Battleforged. Abilities are Full Break and Lifesiphon.
>Vanille
Level 72. BSB. Pulse Kindness. Abilities are Curaise and Protectga.
>Ovelia
Level 65. Divine Ward (Super). Forlorn Princess. Abilities are Curaja and Dispel.
>Orlandeau
Level 80. OSB. God Among Men. Abilities are Lifesiphon and Lifesiphon.

My strategy is basically to just last long enough for Shout-boosted Orlandeau's OSB to eventually win out. Did pretty well but Squall's defensive boosts relegated Thunder God to only doing about 10K a few times.
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>>169045525
Guys
the crystal in the middle is tyra. Screenshot this
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>>169048665
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>>169047954
Thus the
>if you whale enough
Having multiples would still help, man, you have people here grinding for DW with just one Zidane
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>>169048860
Do not kill one until you can kill the other within a turn or two. When one dies the other one goes mega berserk and starts spamming aoe's
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>>169047206
>played 17h straight during mobius day
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>>169048468
I don't have mages, I'm relatively new and the characters I listed in >>169048860 are basically all I have outside of Cloud (BSB1). I got fucked the first time by Haste so I figured Dispel was mandatory for my situation.
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>blue turns to gold
WHY does ff2 banner end before the gacha change? fuck. that's 3 troll golds on this banner
>>
>>169047814
>can't even type Exvius correctly
>>
>>169048953
but we already know that
>>
>>169048668
if this is true this is huge
also that was very nice of you to tell me anon, thank you, sincerely thank you
>>
>>169049104
The FF2 banner is pretty shitty in the grand scheme of things.

Unless you don't have a Firion yet, I guess. But you'll have plenty of time to pick him up before he's viable.
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>>169049309
It's called s/l faggot and it's an integral game mechanic.
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>>169049326
just want a leon to farm. ironically, no firions in my attempts
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>>169047230
>lelele redididt xd
when will this meme fucking end?
if you make a goddamn pastebin or a website with all the useful info that the reddit wiki has I'll gladly move to it
>>
>>169048860
First I recommend you getting Banishing Strike on whoever can use it, I put it on Ramza, to free up a slot for protectga or something and always get a wall for RW if you can provide the heals and haste
Dispel is a waste of slot desu

>>169049309
Just make sure to close it before you actually lose all your characters because if you do it after you lose you will continue only to see your characters dead and a continue screen
>>
>>169049459
See, but that's the thing about Leon. Our base 4* pool is so tiny that he'll actually still be pretty common after the shift (1.357% of all pulls will be Leons). And since he's always there, you are very likely to get him eventually.

So people pulling now are dumb.
>>
>>169048753

Max speed?
>>
>>169049725
>Look at my I'm so smart
>It's so stupid to pull during an increased chance for a great TM you could be farming right now
>You're better off waiting for a 1% chance like a rainbow!
>>
>>169048860
I change a lot of them but
Orlandu osb
OK BSB
Arc Insta heal SSB and renewing rains
Ashes fucking devistating BSB, holy shit that out damaged Orlandu
And either gilg or Alph or someone else
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>>169049152
>tfw not too dumb to check the filename
dumb mobage poster.
>>
>>169050007
>look at me I'm so smart
>I'm pulling on the broken, intentionally abusive gacha and no one can stop me
>>
>>169050120
>broken
>great HP TM
>great ATK TM
>Firion
>great MAG TM
What did you mean by this
>>
>>169043903
At least Gilgamesh has OSB level damage. Tyro's is SSB tier, on a character with below average ATK.
>>
>>169048860
So was your Cloud too underleveled to use? It really seems like you could use some more damage. Like the other guy said, banishing blade is almost always going to be better. Carrying another attacker could make it so that you wouldn't run out of lifesiphons, and could just carry banishing blade on Orlandu for emergencies. Is your lifesiphon lower than R4?
>>
>>169047814
>lowkey implying V,VI,VII,IX are the best in the series
>>
>>169048860
You need more dps lad. Put retaliate on Orlandeau and make the other scrubs hitting him from back.
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>>169050382
>minimum priority TM you will never get around to finishing
>base 4* that's only good for his TM
>one good base 3* who isn't even good yet
>a mediocre base 5*
>the chance to get fucked on all of them by the old gacha system
You are the goodest goy.
Gumi loves you.
>>
>>169048668
Screen capped and sent to gumi.
>>
>>169050674
Someone saying that Gumi was going to patch out S/L scared the shit out of everyone. The game would really suck without it.
>>
do I need more than of Chizuru's TMR?
>>
>>169050435
I have 2 Lifesiphons at R2, that's the highest I got.

Cloud is pretty much in my "real" party but Squall was kicking my ass with Haste and I felt I needed Dispel. Plus I thought Ovelia could add some extra white magic I didn't want to be without.
>>
>>169050674
>gumi
>>
>>169049793
Just as in, completely optimized. Good connection and a fast macro gets through the quest in about 40 seconds. If you constantly have lag spikes, it will take longer
>>
>>169050789

do I need more than of Chizuru's TMR?*
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LITERALLY
W H O
H
O
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>>169049037
>not already being on your third zidane after grinding/moogling 2 up
loser
>>
>>169051139
W A I F U
>>
>>169051139
Not orlandu, that's who. :^)
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>>169050850
I started RK at FFT event and got all MC3 from U+ on every event using ghetto team. The key is abusing S/L and retaliate on Orlandeau
>>
Should I feed Moogles to a Zidane before starting up a TMR macro?
>>
>>169051139
WAIFU SQUAD
>>
>>169050674
Who the fuck is gumi?
>>
>>169051379
Yeah sure
>>
>>169050850
Oh, I get it now. I'm used to seeing R5 lifesiphons. It's awfully tough to rely on soul break spam when they are at that level. It'd be awfully tough to take advantage of the other character's SBs as well. It'd be nice if you had a native wall, since you could bring something with dispel attached like Gilgamesh's BSB.

>>169051139
Ahahaha what the fuck is this?
>>
>>169051139
big ass cannon
>>169051431
shera is a boy
>>
>>169051262
I actually already have retaliate levelled up to R2 IIRC. So that strategy is just have people attack Orlandeau, and that causes him to counter attack the boss?
>>
>>169051756
dumb feelposter
>>
>>169051701
He is using double cut to do it, which is an ancient strategy that I have a hard time believing still works.
>>
>>169051862
>>169051862
>>169051862
>>
>>169051467
Looks like Shine has arrived and she is a BIS TMR for a lot of physical units.

>>169051756
Shine is here if you want a TMR that is good for Orlandu and a bunch of other physical units. Expect Noctis and Lightning whales to get more annoying with this TMR in hand.

Magic Meta is best Arena meta.
>>
>>169051467
Well if I can apparently save stamina and just keep trying frankly I don't think I'm that far away. Squall was kicking my ass a lot less than Astos was, anyway. I got Squall down to probably 5% health last time, probably 20% the time before that. Obviously my team needs work but making it so the stamina loss isn't so devastating goes a long way. That way I can focus on grinding the story dungeons for mythril and RMs, I still don't even have Mako Might.
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>>169049097
>195
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>>169045525
I'll do it tomorrow, I wanna grind some more major ice orbs out of Torment Gi Nattak before the Torment dungeons go away.
>>
How are the two new RK banners?
>>
>>169054082
The Select Nightmare banner has a couple decent thing on, like Tyrone's BSB. But it's mostly abject garbage that sucked even when it came out a year ago. Total trap.

The Combat Nightmare banner has the potential for some highly excellent stuff, including several top notch BSB's and OSB's. However, there are six gorillion characters with Combat 5, so while you could potentially get stuff for Orlandeau, you'll probably get Gau's hat or Josef's suicide glove.
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>>169051139
oh no more donuts who could have seen that coming
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