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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more

/sthg/ #674 - Blue Rat Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Project 2017 Info Revealed
http://segabits.com/blog/2017/02/14/new-project-sonic-2017-information-confirms-villain-multiplayer-status-and-genre/

Collectors Edition of Sonic Mania for Nintendo Switch
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/819965709153234944

SEGA-Sammy 3rd Quarter 2016 Report
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/settlement/2017/170206_3q_siryo_e_final_.pdf

Archie Comics April 2017 Covers and Solicitations
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/archie-comics-april-2017-covers-and-solicitations/1100-156341/

Sonic Stream: "We'll Have More News Next Month"
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/02/03/sonic-stream-we-will-have-more-news-in-the-next-month-related-to-whats-coming-next/

Project 2017 & Mania News To Be Revealed At SXSW
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/13/sonic-sxsw-panel-will-offer-sonic-mania-sonic-2017-announcements/

>Recent and Upcoming Releases<
The Sonic the Hedgehog level pack for LEGO Dimensions has released! You can purchase it online or at physical retailers near you. NOTE: You will need the LEGO Dimensions starter pack to play.

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

Last Thread: >>168655028

>Reminder: Don't respond to shitposters. Report & ignore.
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THUNDER, RAIN AND LIGHTNING
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sonic is a slow blue rat
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>>168859623
SONIC, HE CAN REALLY-
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>>168859623
DANGER, WATER RISING.
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>>168859623
CHANGE IS WHAT THE WORLD AWAITS
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>blue rat
DELETE THIS
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>>168860026
I like this one better.
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>>168859623
https://youtu.be/96gTzBbydQc
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>>168860026
So Team Rose has the most members out of all the teams, right?
>Amy.
>Cream (& Cheese.)
>Big.
>Blaze.
>Vector.
>Sally.
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Post good sonic OSTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGzhKV8SVIk&index=67&list=PLvNp0Boas721TSB-gLzJt6vOmTdRsX47x
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>>168860431
>>Blaze.
>>Vector.
>>Sally.
Wut
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>>168859541
cute

Also
>26 to #700
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>>168860401
This would be better than the original, but I hate that voice effect on the chorus.
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>>168860520
still not as bad as KS

Remember, they lost count, twice
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>>168860476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8s8rypQqc
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>>168860662
still the best
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Everything we know about Project 2017:

>Classic Sonic is back
>Modern Eggman seems to be the main villain or a strong antagonistic force (Maybe Classic will appear again)
>New gameplay
>New character
>No multiplayer
>Other characters are going to appear
>It's going to have a more serious tone (Take that as you will) compared to Generations and Lost world

Things we know about Mania:

>Longer than Generations
>Remixed zones that are almost "only-in-name"
>Story has a reason for the re-used zones
>The Boys may make a comeback
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>>168860489
Blaze was Treasure Team Tango, Vector was Free Riders, and Sally is in the upcoming FF arc that has them tag along with her
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvERHiTfx9w

REAL EGGMAN HOURS

SMASH DAT MF HEDGEHOG
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>>168859661
I can see that, but it doesn't matter (to me, at least). I kind of gave up hope after Color Splash was announced. I may loved the first two games, along with SPM and CS (I kind of hate SS), but I just don't think Nintendo is ever going to bring back the formula that made Paper Mario great at first. I may or may not buy the next one that may appear in switch, but I doubt It'll be as great as the first two.
Live and Learn, anon.
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>>168860489
Blaze teamed up with Amy & Cream multiple times in the comics, Sally's teaming up with them in an upcoming arc, & Vector teamed up with them in Free Riders, although that was a one time deal.
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>>168860580
I actually really like that part, but to each their own.
https://youtu.be/DRlbbpWTC9g
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>>168860803
>Other characters are going to appear
They never said that.

>It's going to have a more serious tone (Take that as you will) compared to Generations and Lost world
Where was that said? It sounds likely but I don't remember anyone explicitly mentioning it.
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>>168860978
>>168860808

Oh, so the only one that actually counts is Vector then
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>>168860904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gex_j_bfOt0
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>>168860607
I didn't mean to imply that the counter was wrong or anything, on the contrary I'm pretty sure it's right, but I don't really care to argue back and forth about if it is or not.
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>>168861040
Team Rose exists in the comics too I think, so it depends what TR you're talking about, I guess.
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>>168860803
>>Other characters are going to appear
I highly doubt it. Maybe we'll get an Amy or Knuckles cameo if we're lucky. The new character will probably be Sticks or Boom Sonic, probably the latter because it'd be received better
>>It's going to have a more serious tone (Take that as you will) compared to Generations and Lost world
I doubt that much more serious. It'll be Generations 2
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>>168859850
It feels like none of the Archie characters outside of Sally get any love, really.
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>>168861410
Compared to Gens or LW, the trailer was more serious than anything in either of the two games, desu.
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>>168861745
Bunnie and Scourge get love. Because honestly, who really cares about the rest?
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>>168861745
And why is that? Sure she's better in the newer comics now but people before just mainly like because of the facts that the artists back then made her look really humanoid and that she was mostly naked.
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>Sonic's Inflation Adventure

>Sonic and Knuckles are back with a new adventure game. Go to the bar and hook up with various hedgehogs, and even go on an adventure or two.
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>>168861775
At most we'll get end of Lost World serious. It has Classic Sonic and apparently Classic Eggman. It won't be THAT serious. At worst it'll be like the final cutscenes of Generations
>>168861949
This. Honestly I feel like anyone saying pre-reboot Sally was better just miss her being naked and forget/ignored how much of a fucking trainwreck her character was
>>168861807
I've seen some of the reboot cast (Mainly the Egg Bosses and especially Clove and Cassia) get a fair share of adulation and attention
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If you could choose ONE character from the other continuities to be in the games, who would they be? ( Don't say Sticks. She's already in.)
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>>168861807
I do.

And Scourge a shit.

>>168862092
Honestly, I would like Thunderbolt in the games.
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>>168862015
forgot link:

https://vndb.org/v20076
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>>168862092
Thunderbolt. You could change very little about her (Like, just make it so that she's Eggman's self proclaimed second in command when she's just someone that keeps following him. Basically Eggman's Amy) and make her fit. Her design works, her personality is over the top and goofy enough to fit in, she could work
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>>168862092
Scourge. Legit think he could be a fun villain.
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>>168862249
Where would he be from though?
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>>168862015
Not this again. Didn't 1 or 2 end up with Sonic inflating out of jail and exploding or something? Didn't actually play the game just saw a Youtube video of the games.
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So I honestly just started playing Sonic games like a month ago or so after a friend of mine wouldn't shut up about Sonic Mania.

Sonic 1 was pretty schizo in terms of level design and really didn't like that game, but Sonic 2 really improved everything and was an amazing game, Sonic 3 & Knuckles became on of my favorite platformers of all time.

But then I played the adventure games, A1 was ok, A2 was terrible. Question is, where do I go from here? Do I try the handheld games? Do I try Colors and Generations? or should I better wait for Mania?
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>>168862092
I kinda want to see Bunnie. Her being a cyborg would be the perfect excuse to have her play like Sonic, like Tails using his namesake in the classic games, and Blaze's fire in Rush.
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>>168862348
Play Heroes, than the handhelds.

Also, thoughts on the characters?
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>>168862287
Eggman does some experiments with the Chaos Emeralds and/or Master Emeralds and/or some unspecified ancient artifact, Sonic gets involved, experiment goes haywire and creates an evil duplicate of Sonic. Would also kind of be a throwback to the Sega of America origin story with some Fleetway thrown in.
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>>168861949
I guess that's true. Sally certainly feels a lot better post-reboot, rather than the mish-mash of traits and constantly shifting personalities she was before.

For a second I thought you were talking about Nicole and got really confused as to how she was "mostly naked" and figured you were referring to how she didn't wear gloves or shoes before, which i guess was pretty strange.

but kinda cute
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>>168862348
The first Sonic Advance is very much like the classic games. The next two are pretty divisive.
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>>168862348
Try the Advance trilogy. They're pretty good, although 3 is kinda shit. Colors and Generations are great. Rush 1 is amazing, Rush Adventure not so much.

Unleashed is something that you can try if you want, and it has some really fun stages, but most of the game is tedious.
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>>168862513
Nicole in the nude.
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While the pre-reset characters are kind of a mixed bag as far as quality goes, if you could bring one pre-reboot character to the post-SGW reality, who would it be?
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>>168862401
it was pretty jarring when I saw Knuckles. S3K gave me the impression that while he was a bit dense, Knuckles liked to use trickery to go around rather than just being the muscle guy, but maybe that's just me.

A lot of things went too dark for my tastes, with cities being flooded, that whole stuff with the backstory of chaos, dunno, story in A1 was much darker than the one of the genesis titles for all the wrong reasons.

And A2 was even worse than the first one in that regard, Robotnik's taking the world hostage with a giant space laser made me laugh since he unintentionally reminded me of Dr. Evil. Shadow felt like he came right from a fan OC, and the Maria thing also felt out of place.

>>168862583
Alright will try the advance trilogy, then heroes and then colors and generations since I saw a mod that put Unleashed stages into that game, thanks.
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>>168862967
Fiona Fox.
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>>168862967
Scourge.
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I made you something /sthg/
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>>168863156
What is this supposed to be?
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>>168863026
They did go a bit overboard with the darker tones later on. That being said, I still liked some of the stories in that game (Amy's, Gamma's, etc.)

That being said the tone in Unleashed is pretty good, & while the dialogue in Colors & Generations was ass, the tone is more fitting.

Also, how do you feel about Tails, Amy, Big etc?
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>>168863202
>the tone for those two games is more fitting for the franchise than the Adventure games
Subjective.
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>>168862092
I think Kukku and his army can work as secondary villains like the Deadly Six.
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>>168863026
Sorry to hear you weren't big on the Adventure series. I agree entirely on Knuckles coming across as the trickery guy instead of the muscle.

Are you actually underage? I don't give a shit either way and due to the site's rules you probably wouldn't answer honestly regardless, but it just feels strange that someone could have gone this long without playing at least one of the Sonic games, and then picked them up on a whim, in this day and age. so actually, don't answer that

Glad to hear you really enjoyed S3K though, you're quite likely to have fun with the Advance series. Be warned, 2 has a fair amount of pits (it's still pretty solid overall) and 3...well, you'll form your own opinion when you play it.
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>>168862967
Either Hope or Beau. Both because they never were used to their fullest
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>>168863775
But they are from the games.
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>>168862967
Finitivus. Knuckles needs a villain of his own.
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>>168863026
>SA1
>dark
I can give you SA2, but SA1 doesn't even get as dark as the Dragon Ball series could get, and that was mostly light-hearted.
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>>168862513
I actually disagree. While Sally was absolutely hot garbage in the Dark Ages, post-reboot she just feels like a bland non-entity whose only role is to either spout exposition or have an irrelevant moment of self-doubt. Gallagher/Decesare Sally remains best Sally.
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>>168863156
Th-thanks?
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>>168863156
I like the image, but what is it referencing?
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>>168863884
Yeah, games that are as canon as Chronicles. Actually, I think Imperator Ix would be a good character to bring back. He'd serve as a secondary villain along with Eggman and give Knuckles personal reasons to fight.
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>>168864097
I'll agree that post-reboot Sally needs work, and that Decesare Sally a best, but on the whole, Sally now is better than she used to be. Granted, that's because she's not a tumorous mass of bad characterization and even worse development, but still
>>168863884
I consider them comic characters at this point. Same with Mighty and Ray.
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>>168863026
Both of the Adventure games' tone were just about right if you asked me, but to each their own. However, you might want to avoid 06 and Shadow. Unleashed, Colors, and Generations might fit for your taste then.
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>>168863538
I liked Tails since he's still portrayed as this prodigy kid who can create just about anything that his great mind can think of, but he's still a kid and thus, naive and innocent.

Same with Amy, while she's still as obsessed with Sonic like she was portrayed in CD (played the steam version, I actually liked it) and her roles in both adventures was neat, since she resolved everything through her kindness.

Cat was just there, I don't understand why he got added, but alright. Rouge felt like an odd addition to the series.

>>168863792
Nope, but grew up with a SNES, then moved to the PS, then GC and PS2 and then to the PC. I honestly don't why I never played the sonic games until now, maybe I felt for the meme that sonic was never good and just avoided them. Kinda odd since I like to play tons of weird shit like the void or pathologic.

>>168864061
it was much darker than the games I played prior, basically introducing the destruction of ancient cvilizations, flooding cities, and chaos shenanigans. A2 just took that darker element and cranked it up to 11
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>>168864307
Hope you enjoy the balanced characterization because post-Heroes, it goes out the window for everyone except Shadow, Rouge, and Omega (Who you haven't encountered yet. He is amazing and the best part of Heroes)
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>>168864307
Big the Cat was added due to fan demand for the next "next-generation" Sonic game to include fishing mechanics. Similarly, Gamma's shooting levels were also included for the same reason. The demand for shooting got so prevalent that fans demanded for Sonic to use a gun. Sega didn't want their family-friendly mascot to actually shoot things, and gave Sonic's guns to Shadow, resulting in the Shadow the Hedgehog video game.
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>>168864307
If you think SA2 is too dark, avoid Shadow. It's retarded and not even fun to play. Play 06 if you want, but it's regarded as one of the worst games of all time for a reason
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>>168864307
>introducing the destruction of ancient cvilizations
That had actually been in the JP manuals of the games prior.
And I still find it ridiculous that something that could be found in a kids' Saturday morning cartoon could be too dark for your tastes.
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>>168864307
The story of Sonic Adventure actually has it's roots in Sonic 3 and Knuckles. The Japanese manual for the game describes in brief the history an ancient civilization that were wiped out after trying to abuse the power of the Master Emerald and the seven Chaos Emeralds. Sonic Adventure took this backstory and expanded on it.
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>>168864307
>A2 just took that darker element and cranked it up to 11
Not really. Like SA1, it was getting dark near the end of the game. However, it was darker compared to SA1.
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>>168864307
Glad you hear you liked them. Also after Heroes, the characterization goes to hell. And regarding Rouge, they were kinda going for a rival to Knuckles I think, but now she's pretty much Shadow's sidekick.
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>>168864831
Oh, & if you don't like dark tones in your Sonic, avoid Shadow & 06 like the plague.
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An excerpt from the Sonic 3 Japanese manual ---

At the same moment, while relaxing on the beach, Sonic found a small ring washed up on shore. Sonic looked at the ring carefully, and noticed some ancient characters carved on it.

The ring reminded Sonic of a legend he once heard about a "mystery island."

In an ancient time, the "mystery island" was part of the main continent. A people with an extraordinary culture inhabited it. That civilization had built a peaceful and happy society using the energy of something they called "The Mighty Stone". But at a certain point, a faction of dark-minded elders tried to steal the energy of the stone, and by accident made that energy explode.

The civilization was wiped out in a second, erased from history. Time passed, and a god descended from the sky to the newly created "mystery island". The sky god restored part of the civilization to the island, and threw the "Mighty Stone" into the open sky...

A ring washed up on the shore - the legend of the "mystery island" - Sonic, feeling his excitement build, made his preparations for another adventure.
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>>168862223
>Basically Eggman's Amy
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>>168864423
That's a shame then, I actually liked things from the adventure games, my gripes are with the tone of those two games and stuff like big the cat and gamma's levels in A1 and tails and robotnik's levels in A2.

>>168864629
That sounds like SEGA had some pretty horrible management back then. It's like if id software added a racing segment in Doom 2 just because the fans wanted it. I think that Tails, Sonic and Ammy's characterization was on spot, and that with a focused team and actual production values, a more light hearted adventure game could work.

>>168864719
Didn't know that, it makes sense considering that you go through ancient ruins in S3K. Does hints at any of that though?

>>168864831
That could work, if Knuckles was also portrayed as the trickster that he was in S3K. Another thinh that I forgot to say, in S3K it was also clear that Knuckles liked to laugh, and you don't really see that in the Adventure games.

But based on you guys comments, I assume that all the stuff that I've heard about Sonic 06 and Shadow being horrible disasters was true then?
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>>168865139
>I assume that all the stuff that I've heard about Sonic 06 and Shadow being horrible disasters was true then?

Bruh, every last word of it was the truth. If you're curious enough you could play them, but just know, they're god-awful.
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>>168863792
Not him but I only started paying attention to the series in 2011, after accidentally watching a funny video on Youtube. I had virtually not played any other game until then.
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>>168865139
What they were going for is Rouge being a Jewel Theif-esque Treasure Hunter that believes that all the world's gems are hers to keep, including the Master Emerald, which is under the protection of it's guardian, Knuckles, who's also a Treasure Hunter.
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>>168864171
>>168863231

It's an emblem I use in For Honor. You only get 5 layers to work with.
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>>168865558
Oh. Nice.
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>>168865139
Shadow wasn't necessarily a disaster, at least not the GC version. Its biggest offenses are being tedious and having such a dumb story.
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>>168864629
>Big the Cat was added due to fan demand for the next "next-generation" Sonic game to include fishing mechanics
First time I've heard of this. Is that actually documented somewhere? Like, Adventure is from 1998, how did you even measure "fan demand" then, when the internet wasn't anywhere near as widespread as today?
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>>168863156
>>168865558
CHAOS VULT
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>>168865738
According to Iizuka in some interview somewhere, Big was just supposed to be the opposite of Sonic and the others being so high-energy and in a rush. His relaxed and slow fishing gameplay was meant to be like a breather or whatever from the SPEED and excitement of the other characters.
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>>168865738
I think he's just making up BS. Big was added so that there was a reason to use the Dreamcast fishing peripheral.
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What emulator(s) and settings are optimal for playing these games?
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>>168865681
>>168865681

I think that I will stay away from those games then, I can cope with a game being horrible in terms of gameplay if the script actually makes up for everything else, like Pathologic
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>>168865937
I always use Kega Fusion. If I'm playing Sonic 3, I think Sonic 3 Complete is a must.
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>>168865990
If you ask me, Sonic '06's story is awesome, especially Shadow and Silver's, and how it all cultimates in the Last story. Sonic's story is just mostly dull and repetitive by comparison.
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>>168865139
Well, I'm glad to hear you don't really hate the Adventure games even if the tone of those games really bothers you that much, but yeah, 06 and Shadow took those tone and crank them up to 11 and are considered a few of the worst games in this series.
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>>168866278
It takes a lot for me to hate a game, I can see what the adventures games tried to do, but they failed, at least in my opinion, thanks to experimenting with the new 3D mechanics, and the story telling.

If I had to say games that I absolutely despise, it would be those games that try to be as close to movies as possible, implementing bland, uninspired gameplay just for the sake of telling a story, like Quantum Break which btw, ran horribly with a goddamn 1070. Nothing wrong with wanting to have a good script in a videogame, but jesus christ, use the medium to tell that story rather than fill everything with cinematics.
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>>168862326
That was in 1.
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>>168865990
So, wait, if dark tone in games, no matter how subtle it is, bothers you so much, have you played any other kid friendly games that are like that? If so, what do you think of them?
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>>168867164
I don't think you get me. I don't mind if a game has a dark tone, some of my favorite games of all time like pathologic, silent hill 2, REmake, Half Life, Quake, Doom, FEAR, Fallout and Planescape all have a dark tone, and I love them for that

But I don't like when a series that had 4 games who clearly were designed to be family friendly suddenly changes the tone for the darker approach that the adventure games had

If the sonic series had always been as dark as A2 and then became light hearted, I would have had the same problem. My gripe with the adventure games isn't necessarly the darker tone, but the inconsistency when compared to what was already established.
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>>168867831
So, in your eyes, should Sonic stay lighthearted and simple? Just curious. Because honestly I can't blame you. Something like Sonic works when it's relatively bare bones and straightforward "Eggman's building a big base, go kick his ass", that kinda thing
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What's a better style for Silver when I inevitably draw him again?

Left is the style I've used in previous drawings, more of a slick sharper look, and Right is closer to his quills in the games.

Both are valid options, but I'm curious of what others think
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>>168867831
Fair enough. I honestly always enjoyed Adventures 1 and 2's stories. They struck a nice balance between light and fun like Genesis/Heroes/Colors, and super dark like Shadow The Hedgehog and Sonic 06. Unleashed felt like it had a really good balance too. The goofier, kiddier story in Colors kind of had me disappointed.
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>>168865875
Yes, but the other anon was claiming that Big was added because fans explicitly wanted fishing mechanic.
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>>168868009
I'm leaning more to the right.
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>>168868009
So do you draw with the stupid TD style on purpose or out of necessity?
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>>168868267
TD?
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>>168868316
Total Drama
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>>168867985
>hould Sonic stay lighthearted and simple?
I don't know about simple, but it should definitely stay light hearted. I don't have a problem in wanting to have a bigger story with higher stakes, it's just that going with the tonal inconsistency and characters like Shadow and the Maria conflict isn't the way to do it, at least in my opinion.
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>>168868348
How is my drawing similar to that?
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>>168868009
I would say the new one.

>>168868267
No need to be confrontational, anon.

>>168868416
Also, I'm glad you're getting into the Sonic series. Hopefully you continue to post here!

Also some shitposters like to try & derail the threads. Make sure to ignore them, anon.
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>>168868421
Not hard to notice the similarities.
Legs, arms, and hands are very similar. Feet also seem to go of that type as well. The sharp-edged rectangular appendages are also reminiscent. They mostly remind me of Harold.
>>168868531
Hey, I'm just wondering. The similarities are numerous.
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>>168868597
It's not intentional, I just doodle quick line sketches, which does usually consist of sharper limbs and stuff. Doing stuff like pic related takes a ton more time, and I usually don't get a whole lot of feedback when I do put the time in
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You're at Casinopolis and this guy slaps your girl's ass and says "Aw yeah, this is happenin'!"

What do you do?
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>>168862967
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>>168868768
Weird. It took me some time to figure out what your drawings reminded me of, too.
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>>168868826
Sorry if they're not all that good, then.
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>>168868776
Thank him for the high-five.
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>>168868932
Eh. You'll get better.
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>>168868597
Eh, that stuff can be coincidental.
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>>168868960
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>>168868776
I don't know why but this made me chuckle like a dumbass
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>>168867831
I get it. Still, I love the Adventure games' stories and thought the tone were just about right.
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>>168868009
I kind of like the old one, but yeah, go for the new one.
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>>168868819
Shard was a good boy.
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Is it coincidental all the best characters are hogs?
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>>168870454
The only acceptable hogs are Sonic, Amy, and Metal.
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>>168870454
>Amy, Shadow and Silver
>better than Tails, Knuckles, Eggman and Vector
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>>168870865
He's a faggot for posting that picture in the first place, so it's no wonder that he has poor taste.
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>>168870865
I wouldn't say Shadow & Silver are on the level of those characters, but personally, I like Amy more than Tails.
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>>168868416
Different strokes come to different folks, but okay. I don't mind family-friendly games having a bit of darker tone as long the story is enjoyable or it doesn't go too far with its tone.
>>168870698
>Metal
He's the best ROBOT, not a hedgehog
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>>168868932
Wait, that's the name you went with?
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>>168870865
Tails and Knuckles aren't that great, really.

Eggman is the best, though. No question.
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>>168871325
That's cause he has the master plan.
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>>168870865
I say Shadow is a bit better than Vector, though I like Vector.
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>>168871283
After the suggestions, I literally couldn't decide on the name I liked, though I think it's a tie between Team Chaos and Team 'Hog

Runners Up include:
Team Rat
Team Needlemouse
The SSSSSS (Super Sonic Shadow Silver Speed Squad
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>>168871283
Also I'll add I was super tired when I finished it at like 3 am so I didn't really care about the file name when I saved it
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Have a shampoo ad era sally
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>>168872159
Honestly, I never liked long hair Sally. She looked too anime for me, old Sally looks better in Yardley's style.
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Do anyone you guys used to lurk and watched or played anything on Newgrounds?
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i never really understood why the computer was cuter than all the actual characters
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>>168872762
Yes.
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>>168859541
What is the best Sonic Game to stream that /sthg/ would like to watch together and discuss?

Name one. No matter how old or unsavory it is.
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>>168873639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU72XlMODgI

Sonic Adventure 2 (DreamCast Version)
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>>168873639
Depends on the player skill regardless of the game. No way am I going to watch some scrub mindlessly boost himself to death in 3D or crawl at a snails pace in Sonic 2/3.
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>>168874014
>tfw that one streamer never got past Final Rush
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>>168874014
How about if someone is a bit more then a intermediate but not a full hard speedrunner?
Someone who grew up with the series since 1991? (I'm 26 turning 27 soon)
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>>168874014
I recently completed Sonic Rush within 5 Hours. Is that still Scrub level run?
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>>168874394
Intermediate is good.
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>>168874531
Voiced or not?
How would you like the overlay of the stream to be? Full screen or Filtered like a CRTV?
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>>168874705
No voice.
Full screen.
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7 decides who this is
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>>168875030
Amy
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>>168875030
Optimus Prime.
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>>168875030
Bunnie or Nicole
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>>168875030
Blaze the Cat
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>>168875030
Amy
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>>168875030
Megaman
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>>168875030
Marine/Sticks hybrid
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>>168875030
Nicole
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>>168875030
Metal Sonic
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>>168875030
Omega
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>>168875030
Shade the Echidna
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>>168875030
Mina
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pretty much every number but 7 called here, c'mon /sthg/ get it together!

check my 7.
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>>168875030
Silver
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>>168875337
Welp, don't even remember who that is.
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>>168875030
Mina Mongoose

>>168874506
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>>168875337
FUCK OFF
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>>168875337
And we have a result!

Okay so shorts and black tank top or pop star skirt outfit? First two get two votes gets it.
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>>168875413
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>>168875337
Damn it.
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Am I a degenerate for masturbating to Amy Rose?
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>>168875469
Oh. Goddammit.
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>>168875465
Black tank top.
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>>168875509
yes.

not because you're masturbating to sonic characters, but because there's so many better sonic characters you could be wanking it to.
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>>168875030
Marine the Raccoon from Sonic Rush Adventure
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>>168875509
This was literally just posted on /v/ like an hour ago
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>>168875509
No but you have paltry taste for not spanking it to damn near any other character leagues above Amy.
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>>168875465
What about the Chinese Red Dress?
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>>168875509
go to bed Yoto
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>>168875509
No.

>>168875572
>>168875624
I mean, Rouge, Sally, Fiona & Vanilla, but those are honestly the only character I'd put above Amy in terms of fap worthy characters.
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>>168875337
Way to go faggot, now I have to learn to draw in order to get Omega in that pose.
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>>168875698
>not Nicole, Bunnie, Mina, or Blaze
???
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http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?504265-What-is-your-most-favorite-Sonic-IP-Game-you-enjoy-the-most

Oldie but a goodie.

(Does not contain any of the newer Sonic titles past Lost World/Sonic Boom.)
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>>168875556
>>168875656

Sure, I got one Black Tank and one Red Cheongsam!
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>>168875790
Okay, Bunnie I'll give you. Nicole possibly. Mina & Blaze? I mean not saying they're bad whatsoever regarding this, but I can't really say they're better than Amy.
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>>168875465
Why not both?
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>>168875668
Hey, that's not me. I've already ACCEPTED that I'm a degenerate.
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Question, is anyone else a fan of FindtheComputerRoom.com?

I still enjoy their commentaries, but I'm so disappointed NTom and FTA will never ever collaborate again. Reason being is because Gareth is a greedy unethical fuck or something along those lines.

I'm disappointed because they were such great commentators, and their personalities went together so well. They were like the lennon and Mccarthy of game commentaries.
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>>168875793
Ooh this looks nice as shit. I'm still not really that big a fan on how open the world is though, but at least it looks fucking gorgeous visually.

Speaking of fangames, what does everyone here think of Sonic World? It's a little wonky sometimes but it feels like a very nice blend between the high speeds of the newer games and the platforming and full 3D control from Adventure series, with level design to match.
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>>168875995
wait what happened between those guys?
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>>168875509
Someone on the SEGA Forums uses that exact image as their avatar....someone by the name of "IsquIdy".
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>>168876048
I believe FTA was demanding Tom extra pay but wasn't willing to put forth the effort to get it
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>>168876009
I like it, especially since it's the best 3D Silver gameplay we've seen
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Sonic 3 Complete is the best game out of the series ever released that was made by Sonic Team


Sonic Mania will be more or less like Sonic 3 and Knuckles but people would prefer Sonic 3 Complete over it.
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>>168876217
I agree entirely. It's really fucking weird how they managed to pull it off while actually getting rid of all the shitty bits. Running at high-speeds, grabbing a badnik as you pass by, and tossing them into another as you hit a loop without ever breaking momentum is extremely satisfying.
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>>168876431
Don't post freedom trash shit
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>>168876431
Agree, I'm surprised that Tiddles wasn't a secret Sonic 3 lead programmer. With all of the stuff he's fixed/changed, he's gone beyond simple modding
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>>168876469
If that kind of gameplay was ever integrated in a full official 3D sonic game, I could die happy knowing Silver was at least a good character in one game

I've S-ranked almost every level with him. It's the only solace as a silver guy
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Just found this vid on the tube of juice. Awesome concept and art, even though it probably wouldnt work in a game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMHmn8atkM4
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>>168876431
>people would prefer Sonic 3 Complete over it.

Por que?
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>>168876482
What is freedom trash?
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>>168876764
>All those females
>Then Tails

Why?
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>>168876709
Anyone else find the OVA a bit overrated? I mean it's good, but I don't get why it has the following it does.

>>168876764
The image you posted has characters from the game "Freedom Planet". A game that people like to claim is better than the actual sonic games to get a rile out of autists
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>>168876764
>suddenly Tails
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>>168876720
For the most part. Metal Sonic is going to be in the game. Tails story will be the same as Sonic's despite shorter since Sonic will have the extra stage for Super Sonic Battle.

Knuckles will retain his super form but neither Sonic nor Knuckles will get Hyper Forms since Iizuka made it known that the 'word of god' that Hyper Emeralds are no more.
But Knuckles will still battle the enhanced and more deadly version of Metal Sonic MK2 with the Master Emerald as the main focus.

Overall the gameplay will be decent and the storytelling while not vocal its still present. Will be decent. But it will not overtake on the whole Death Egg armageddon or Precursor Legacy foretelling that Sonic 3 K complete had.
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>>168876709
I'm suddenly reminded of Sonic Beyond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcMrADQxk-4

When I was younger I was all for this shit, even though it was just Sonic with a Mega Man-style boss and power system.

Wouldn't mind seeing a Sonic game with full-on handdrawn vector graphics in general, though.
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>>168876843
To cater to the gays and Female Fujoshi's
Apparently Knuckles and Shadow might be playable too.
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>>168877023
Oh. Say, would the levels being more like CD than 3 hurt Mania or help it?
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>>168877182
Hurt it. CD has top notch presentation, but fucking awful level design
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>>168876863
To be fair, it's certainly better than shit like Sonic 4. I don't think it could ever take the place of the Genesis titles, though I do think it's very good on its own. I'd rather people stop comparing it to Sonic though.
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>>168877182
If they catered to the physics of the game and its platforming. It will help it. But if its all randomized and out of placements for obstacles/platforms and enemies. Then it will harm it.

Give or take I would say 50/50%

(I would rather like something more streamlined like Sonic 2's stages with a bit more of a Sonic 3K routes to choose from.
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>>168877259
Gameplay wise, it's fine. Not too fond of the mostly female cast and presentation of the first game
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>>168876764
I don't get this game, or many other games along these lines. Someone clearly had the talent to sprite and code to put together a Sonic beat-em-up of reasonable quality, which hasn't really been done before. But then they decided "let's make it a porn game" and then "let's add an OC". And just like seemingly every other porn game, all the hot stuff only comes about from you taking damage or losing, meaning the entire purpose of making it sexual is contradictory to the fact that it's a game that people will want to play and beat.
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Mina!
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>>168878403
That's a Mina.
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>>168878403
You're cool.

DA, tumblr, dropbox?
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>>168878403
Cute!
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>>168878529
rikdraws.tumblr.com

>>168878403
You should do more of those "X gets to decide which character this pose is" The last one was good too, even if I can't remember which character it was. It livens up the post count during the dead hours is that the plan?
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>>168875601
The thread is now talking about what furries they wanna fuck.
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Do you own any plush, /sthg/?
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>>168879082
Many.
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>>168875793
Its a nice proof of concept but anyone praising this as anymore than that is retarded.
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>>168879493
Pics?
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>>168879082
The one in pic and a sligthly larger one I keep in my car, for going fast.
I really want one of the huge ones though.. More cuddle-friendly.
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>>168879774
Too lazy to take one and most are stored away anyway.
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>>168879808
>I really want one of the huge ones though. More cuddle-friendly.
You and me both, Anon. God, I just want to snuggle up with one so badly.
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>>168880079
Too lazy? Oh, come now, Anon. Not even one pic for us? Sorry to hear you have so many stored away, though.
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>>168879808
Every huge one seems to be stuffed with those tiny foam balls and aren't that good.

Also, pretty hard to hide.
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>>168878802
Oh hey thanks anon. Yeah I might do them more often. It's kinda cool seeing what characters get picked, keeps it more interesting than running a poll too.
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>>168880506
Most of them, yeah. Why would you hide it, anon? You're not a normie, are yah?!
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The reboot is kind of my first real exposure to the comics, but dammit I didn't think I'd love Big so much.
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>>168876863
Of all the Sonic animations, the OVA is the best-looking, and the closest to the games. The focus is on the game characters, with the new characters having fairly non-invasive roles, and the story being based around Sonic vs. Metal is a great centerpiece.

AoStH and Boom are funny, and X's adaptations of SA1/2 were cool (despite all of X's problems), but there's good reason the OVA is the most acclaimed Sonic animation.
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Finally got around to finishing tagging the booru and removing duplicates and non /sthg/ stuff.

Might go through the archives to give it another update if I'm not busy and fireden is cooperative. If not, I'll just wait for the ride archive to update like the last few times.
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Post your reactions to this in response of trying to play as Tails 50 times.
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>>168879082
A few
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>>168859541
thats a nice render
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>>168875995
I feel worse for THD's departure after the pokemon sun LP. NTom + THD feel like a almost perfect straight-man/funny-man pair.
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>>168875995
>>168876149
>>168885931

I like FTCR but they can get a little too hyper for me, lol editing!! lol Trump!!
again they are fun just a tad too much in that direction.

FTA and Ntom worked together as a straight man and funny man
same with Ntom and THD as well.

I'm listening to HFC's new unleashed playthrough and it's three analytical guys, It's not as well balanced.

honestly I think for Tom's sake he should find something else to do in life.
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>>168879082
I did
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>>168886931
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>>168875465
Black tank
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>>168887816
Fuck I'm slow
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>>168886931
W-what happened?
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>>168888048
She lives with someone else now
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>>168883075
Thanks anon!
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>>168879082
I have a really giant, on model, custom Sonic plushie

>>168880506
You can re-stuff them with soft filling!
I really, really, really want one of those

>>168880337
>>168879808
You all and me too!
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I wish there were "good drawing", "bad drawing" tags in booru's.
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>3 weeks until more Mania and 2017 info
>2 Weeks until Jack is Back
>1 More week until Switch
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>>168889512
But then you'll have a groups of people complaining that a "bad" drawing was good and vise versa.
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>>168859541

WHERE DO I DOWNLOAD SONIC UTOPIA?!??!?!?!?!?!
THE DROPBOX AND FANGAMEHQ LINKS ARE DEAD!!!!!!

RRRREEEEEEEÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉ!!!!!!!!
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>>168888373
PICS. NOW.
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>>168860401 >>168860476 >>168860662 >>168860904 >>168861003 >>168861136
> 2017
> not posting groovalicious remixes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQJF4XFQh1s

This general needs more OCRemix tracks.
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>>168876149
He was being paid to commentate with him? I had assumed thought it was just a fun little side thing to do in their spare time.
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>>168891147
Emergency bump!

REEEEEEE!!!! Where is the Sonic Utopia download!
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It's time for 'inexplicable fan art'!
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>>168894048
http://pc0.hapisan.com/SonicUtopia10232016521.rar
Seriously. 6 seconds total to find. Learn to internet.
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>>168894129
Waitress fetish.

Did I explain it?
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>>168891527
I am at work, so you aren't getting pics now. Or later, he isn't finished yet!
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Who's that Pokemon???
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>>168889512
How to alienate all drawfags in less than 20 minutes.
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you kno
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>>168896979
what's this?
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>>168879082
Maybe.
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>He who must not be named sent a question to the Bumblekast
God dammit is there nowhere I can avoid your autism?
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Aah nothing like playing this game on a power outage...

So lovely. Loved it as a kid, but I never managed to complete it. Now, years later, I finally got myself to re-try it and I'm loving it as expected!
Truly my favourite GameGear title from the roster

I want another Sonic game like this one!
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>>168897559
This is Sparky, and I literally just started watching the episode a moment ago. Are you saying that they answered a question from me, or are you referring to a different "he who must not be named"?
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>>168896979
At least put some effort into it.
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>>168897249
Oh I knoe
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>>168879082
I've got a box here full of all the Sonic plushes I collected growing up like that exact one you posted. Makes me sad that they're in a box but at least they're close.
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Post your Sonic OCs
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>>168900278
this is my OC Thunderbolt
she is cute, small, and full of energy
eggman loves he so much that she is his right hand chinchilla
Dont steal pls
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>>168896671
Oh wow, looking forward to that! Can you maybe post a little.. Sneak peek?
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>>168900278
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>>168862223
>>168864952
>>168900526
>ywn orgasam from the Eggman patting you on the head
Why even try?
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This Cat
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>>168896376
10 points for a theme on waitresses, but -2 for playing the fetish card. Sometimes a theme is just a theme.

Alright then, time for round two.
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>>168863775
the birbs are technically in since tail's adventure in the early 90's.

Heck, even the witch carts whats-their-names .
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>>168901836
If truly free be stopped never through all that's happening
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>>168897750
Ok, so having watched the entire video, they answered a question that I sent them about Knuckles and Mighty's strength. It was apparently a pretty lengthy question, and I am glad that he went into detail answering it.

The basic jist of the answer is that the reason Ian emphasizes Mighty as being rediculously srong over Knuckles (he also made it clear that he is not confiming anything on whichever one is stronger) is because it gives Mighty something that makes him stand out, since the games only ever shown him being another Sonic, with SegaSonic Arcade only really having a bit of animations and stuff expressing the idea of a strong guy. Compared to Knuckles, who has every reason to be much much more important, from being the last echidna to guardian of the Master Emerald. At the end of the day, Knuckles is still the more important one, he's part of the "triple threat", and all that stuff, but all Mighty has is being strong.
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>>168896979
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>>168862092
The choice is obvious
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>>168900021
They're all stuck in a box? That's no good, Anon! How many do you have?
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>>168900780
He just looks exactly like Sonic anon, I'm sure you know how he looks. He's also bigger than a fucking bed
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>>168904484
Come on, man. Even if it is a WIP, not even one pic?
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>>168863156
ADMORTEM ILU MICUS
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>>168904604
He's just all white and ugly right now... I don't know.
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post dem jams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1MoeRuh3K8
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>>168896376

Is there really such a thing?
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>>168906972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fDcvxzgCBE
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>>168905426
Nothing wrong with being white man. We don't judge here. Just give us a little taste bit maybe?
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>>168879082
Just the one for now. FF plushes when?!
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>>168907425
I was about to ask if those are really waitresses, and then I remembered my time in Vegas

Still, I feel that the waitress fetish is more aimed at that typical diner style waitress.
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>>168908026
Hopefully never
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>>168905426
Pretty please with a cherry on top?
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>>168908191
T. Swatbot
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>>168908508
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>>168908026
Woomy
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>>168908334
>>168908508
>>168908679
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How would you fix your least favorite game/character/show/level/whatever the fuck?
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Anime Shadow is Best Shadow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbBvItUniHY
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>>168909224
As a Shadow fan, that's wrong. X wanked him way too hard for my tastes. Then again season 3 of X was just wank in general
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Should we just make the next thread 'Waitress Edition'?

>>168909157
Better people than I have tried to fix '06.
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Post real waitresses and not dirty sluts
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>>168908334
>>168908508
>>168908679
Are there more of these?
Amy's the best regardless.
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>>168909157
Get rid of the royal family drama completely. The plot becomes Sonic, Tails and Amy gathering together and embarking on a road trip to fight Robotnik's forces while trying to find "the true king", who holds a magical artifact that's prophesized to be able to defeat Robotnik for good. Aside from that, changing the voice actors and getting rid of the musical numbers, not much else needs to be changed. It'd actually be interesting to see Tails re-imagined as a street rat, giving him both a mischievous streak as well as a practical source for his tech abilities, as well as an Amy that drops her crush on Sonic completely in favor of Sonia's personality. Hell, they can even keep the instruments as long as there's no stupid songs.
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>>168909762
>Amy that drops her crush on Sonic completely in favor of Sonia's personality.

fuck off
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>>168909924
Giving a character a personality beyond "muh Sonic" is not a bad thing.
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>>168909924
Hey, she'd actually have a personality, unlike normal Amy who's personality begins and ends at wanting Sonic's cock.
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>>168909157
While Silver is far from being my least favourite character, I've had a few ideas about fixing his gameplay, because admittedly, his style was the weakest part of 06

First, make him as a fast as Sonic and Shadow. No questions.

Next is instead of that stun move where he slaps the air, it's a full on psychic wave that has range and does damage, and can be upgraded like Shadow's chaos spear at the cost of using a more energy that just grabbing objects.

That dinky-ass little air dash he gets becomes something similar to a speed boost and like in his first cutscene where he shown capable of flying extremely fast, activating it and holding down the button lets silver quickly move through the air until his gauge runs out. It's an alternative to his normal glide. His glide gets more distance, but his dash is faster and he can ram enemies with it similar to a homing attack.

Also remove the end level ball puzzle from Dusty Desert

thoughts?
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>>168910128
>>168910193
>shitposting
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>>168910510
I like it. Can he still pick up enemies and toss them like bitches?
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>>168910616
Yes, but this is so it doesn't get repetitive you have some options, and he's not slow as molasses anymore
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>>168910603
>Anything I disagree with shitposting
Come off it, all I said was that Amy doesn't exactly have a personality outside of Sonic, which isn't exactly wrong. Outside of maybe 1 game, everything she does is for him. I mean, she made up a fake boyfriend just to get him jealous enough to date her, that's pretty obsessive
>>168910660
Alright, sounds good to me.
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>>168910510
How to fix Silver:
- Give him the force powers from Force Unleashed
- Make him faster
That's about it.
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>>168910732
>she made up a fake boyfriend just to get him jealous enough to date her, that's pretty obsessive
>using Chronicles, a game made by Bioware, who did extremely poor research on the franchise, ended on a cliffhanger, outright avoided and de-canonized by Sega, in order to make a bad point against Amy
>shitposting
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Post echidnas.
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>>168911280
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>>168911090
Fine, then sneaking into a highly guarded top secret military base just to save her husbando, and getting there either before or around the same time as someone with a fucking plane. That's pretty goddamn obsessive. Or following someone up to a planet in the goddamn sky held up by a chain.
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>>168911280
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>>168911090
Okay fine, then instead of Amy it can just be Sally yet again and the plot can be finding her dad yet again and Amy gets shoved off to the side like she doesn't exist yet again.
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>Falling for the :Amy has nothing outside of Sonic" shitposts

Guys, pls.
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>>168911429
If one had unlimited knuckles, why not using them all to punch the meteorite off the god damn planet?

sonic boom did it with the dumbest of the bunch. has to work with the greatest mind of the city.

Then again, this is the same comic book where we got an echidna posing as fucking moses. echidnapolis couldn't be this far away from albion now, could it ?
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>>168911537
Describe Amy's established personality at the time of Underground without mentioning her attraction to Sonic. Go ahead, I'll wait. Hell, I'll even let you bring up her personality in the comics up until then, since Underground actually used a comic character.

And before you say "muh goalposts" this is about a hypothetical redo of Underground, so everything established after it is irrelevant.
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>>168911742
Because they were super special smart and had SCIENCE!!. Also, Echidnaopolis was on Angel Island, and Albion was around Mercia I think.
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>>168911381
>saving a friend is obsessive
Although, to be fair, you do kind of have a point. How did she get there before Tails?

Also, she didn't follow Sonic, she waited on Little Planet before he got there. Her tarot cards predicted that she would have a destined encounter with Sonic.
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>>168911772
really nice age distribution to be honest
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>>168911870
How the fuck did she get up to Little Planet? Did she run up the chain and just wait in Palmtree Panic? Like, that takes a lot of effort for a small hunch predicted by cards
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>>168911757
>Describe Amy's established personality at the time of Underground
That's completely different. Amy's character didn't develop until Adventure, so AT THAT TIME, the only thing going for her was her attraction to Sonic. The previous posts were formatted so as to imply that Amy NEVER had any development.
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>>168911757
Okay, I'm just gonna use SA1
>Hates boredom
>Likes shopping
>Reads tarot cards
>Optimistic

I mean, this isn't even bringing up the development she had after the Adventure games, & especially what she's done in the comics, but I guess you'll make some leaps in logic to defend your shitposting.

Good day, sir.
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>>168911845
According to the comic, angel island was in their equivalent of australia.

It rises more question than it should, and I do not wish to read the comic book to clear my hinch that they left BEFORE the island flew into the sky thanks to the hidden power of fucking fire ants.

Way to go echidnapolis. thousands of years of tech advances trumped by ants that spit fire.
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When would Sonic Advance 1+2 take place in the timeline of the Dreamcast Era? Battle and Advance 3 seem to most likely occur at the very end, after Shadow's game. I'd say Advance 1 and 2 could take place after Adventure 2, but they have the original red Tornado, don't they? And Amy uses the Spin Hammer Attack in Advance 1 when she got it from an upgrade in Adventure 1, so...uh...
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>>168912248
They don't really have a place. Anywhere before Sonic Heroes is good.
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>>168911429
Just because all echidnas are the same size (no, really), doesn't mean they have the same strength as Knuckles. Echidnaopolis was more interested in science than the other less-evolved and less-advanced parts of the world, and, as a result, most of its civilians might not have seen a purpose for honing their reflexes, especially when they could just use a gun or something.
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>>168912248
I always liked to think of them as preceding Adventure. Eggman's still up to his typical schemes prior to resorting to ancient gods, and DX has a Cream cameo.
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>>168912248
Advance 1 and 2 could take place anywhere between the end of SA1 and the start of Heroes. Advance 3 is likely after Battle and Shadow, or after Battle and before Shadow. Though I have seen some convincing arguments for Battle taking place after Shadow and before Advance 3
>>168912634
Thing is, Adventure DX came out AFTER Advance 1, so as far as SA1 goes originally, she didn't exist
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>>168912607

Why didn't Locke just give Knuckles a gun?
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>>168912607
>the joke

>(you)

explaination : Pender's a fucking hack.
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>>168912734
>anywhere between the end of SA1
Why exactly can't they take place before Adventure 1?

>Thing is, Adventure DX came out AFTER Advance 1, so as far as SA1 goes originally, she didn't exist
It's called a retcon. Sega does them all the time.
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>>168912838
Because he had already microwaved him and he wasn't letting it go to waste
>>168912858
>Why exactly can't they take place before Adventure 1?
It probably could. Honestly you could fit Advance 1 between Sonic 4 ep 2 and SA1 with no problems whatsoever
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>>168912734
And Battle came out before Shadow.
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>>168912734
The Tornado 1 is destroyed, or at least very damaged, after Adventure I, and in the next several games the Tornado II is used instead. Advance I uses the Tornado I. Advance 2 doesn't use a Tornado, from what I can tell.
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>>168912952
I know that, which why I'd usually put it before Shadow and after Heroes.
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>>168912838
Have you ever tried shooting with a pair of boxing gloves tho.

At best, he can probably throw his foes in a giant microwave.
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>>168912952
Yes, but Shadow remembers Maria and Gerald, along with his purpose of creation, things he DIDN'T remember in Heroes or Shadow.
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>>168912952
Shadow has memories in Battle, and amnesia in both Heroes and Shadow'05. Battle must take place after all that happened.
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>>168912248
Advance 1 -> Adventure 1 -> Advance 2 -> Adventure 2 -> Heroes -> Shadow -> Battle -> Advance 3 -> Unleashed
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>>168913129
Don't forget Rush. Rush happened between Advance 3 and Unleashed, as did Secret Rings and Rush Adventure
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>>168913053
Batle can't come before Shadow. That would make zero sense.

>>168913078
>>168913094
That's my point.

Release order doesn't necessitate chronological order. An even more obvious example is Sonic 4. Would anyone try to argue that it takes place AFTER Adventure? Shit, what about Mania?
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>>168913230
>Shit, what about Mania?
Between 3&K and before 4 ep 1
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>>168913196
>Rush happened between Advance 3 and Unleashed, as did Secret Rings and Rush Adventure
How do you know those games didn't happen AFTER Unleashed?
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>>168913386
Because USUALLY, release order is also chronological order in this series. Usually. Also there's nothing that really says that they have to happen afterwards
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>>168913129
-> Advance 3 -> (nothing of importance) -> 2006 -x
-> Advance 3 -> Rush -> Rivals -> Rush Adventure - Rivals 2 - Secret Rings -> Riders -> Zero Gravity -> Unleashed
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>>168912114
Not devalidating the other statements you've made, but I don't consider the comic characters within the same category. Their whole schtick is that they're generally just versions of their game counterparts with much better characterization.
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>>168913854
What about Black Knight?
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>>168917404

Released after Unleashed.
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>>168917476
Oh right, because of that ending?
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If I ever get around to writing fanfic novelization adaptation things of the games and other stuff into one ongoing narrative, I'm going to have a Genesis Wave or something similar occur at the beginning and ending of each era. Although it might not actually change much of anything, but eh. I still like the idea.

What I have in mind is, for the Dreamcast Era, plot elements from Sonic X will be added in. First, the Era will begin with Sonic Advance, as a game that essentially harkens back to the kind of stuff that occured in the Genesis Era, and then afterwards a heavily altered version of Sonic X's first episode and season will happen, with Eggman causing a Genesis Wave that does... something, and the Station Square and Mystic Ruins locations are introduced, as some of the characters make it their new home for a while, or something, and after all that happens, Sonic goes off on a long solo adventure around the world (as Sonic Adventure's manual or whatever says he does), and Sonic Adventure happens when he returns.

The end of the Era will be Sonic Advance 3, who's plot is basically Eggman using a Genesis Wave to split the world into 7 pieces, and Sonic and friends use the Emeralds to cause another Genesis Wave that restores the world to normal.
The .... 3rd Era.... will start with Sonic '06 with the timeline reset ending, and the ending of he Era will be Generations, with the plot of the Eggmen erasing events in the timeline and the Sonics restoring it with his speed.
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>>168918172
Modern Era. It's called the Modern Era
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>>168919178
Yeah, but it won't be "Modern" forever.
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>>168859541
any of you guys seeing the drama over at sonictwitter? it's getting fucking crazy.
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>>168920307
I don't see anything
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>>168897559
It's a bad scene when this could refer to multiple people.
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>>168920647
the #notmymobius thing?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAE-AgyYP7Q
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>>168902532
This is the same artist, isn't it?
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>>168920716
>the #notmymobius thing?
What?
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>>168920834
some people were shitting at a couple sonictwitter RPs for being 'elitists' using the hashtag #notmymobius

it's all sort of exploding over there.
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>>168920912
WHAT?
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>>168920938
PLEASE NO

NOT THE FORBIDDEN IMAGE
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>>168920743
My nigga,literally the only good reviewer on youtube
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Nicole is really cute!
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>>168921057
It's ok i won't post it

;)
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>>168920938
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>>168920938
T-the fuck is that?
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>one chance at life
>end up in the sonic general on 4chan
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>>168920979
what what?
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>>168920307
Is there something I'm missing?
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>>168921440
that is the cropped image of chris's "taint". He's got a big hole in him he refers to like a vagina

you don't want to see the full image.
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>>168921240
is he really only thinking that after having already pulled the pin
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>>168921440
You know Chris Chan, right?

He wanted to be a transgender but couldn't afford the surgery. Instead, he got a taint (Spot between dick and anus) piercing and called it a clit (He thought they went there)

Because he never wipes or showers it got infected, so he ripped it out with his bare hands and now it's a gigantic, rotting hole he calls his "vagina" AKA the un-clit 2.0

That's a crop of him pulling up his flesh blob to reveal it.
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>>168920938
MOOOOOOOODS
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>>168921747
its just a crop bro
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>>168921483
what do you mean?
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>>168921886
I don't see any craziness.
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>>168922241
literally check the hashtag
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>>168922382
I don't get it, what the hell is happening.
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>>168922382
I can't see shit captain
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>>168922557
couple of guys getting mad because someone forgot to reply to an RP starter, now everyone is freaking over it and defending the person.
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>>168922382
A grand total of 15 or so people crying on twitter over something (I can't even tell what they are crying about) is not really something "getting fucking crazy"
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>>168923015
well it's sonic related, this is sonic general, and it's a big deal over there, so it seemed relevant.
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Explain
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This explains so much
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>>168923846
DELETE
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>>168923846
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Sonic Man - Sonic
Chris Thorndyke - Tails
Princess Elise III - Amy (and, arguably Blaze?)
Who's the Knuckles?
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>>168923846
>>168921747
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>>168925236
The Eggman, of course.
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>>168925485
...but... no no no, there has to be SOME other male human character that Sonic has fought against.
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>>168925789
Sam Speed from Sonic X?
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>>168925919
....Yeah, but... that's more of a Metal Sonic, Shadow, Jet kind of rival.
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>>168925789
No, you misunderstand.

The Eggman is peak human performance. You may not like it, but this is what it looks like.
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There is any good Sonic fanfics out there or they are all autistic?
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>>168926974
Fanfiction is autistic in general so yeah
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>>168926974
>are they all autistic
May be to you.
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>>168925919
What if Sam Speed... IS Sonic Man?
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>>168926045

How about that one guy Knuckles met in the Sonic X episode focused on him. His name was Hawke or something?
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>>168927821
Hawk. He was a martial arts expert, just like Knuckles.
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>>168921150
Nickel. The AI friend of Solly
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>>168921150
Looks like Nicole if she was from Kablam!
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One problem I've faced when trying to think of how Sonic X could be intergrated into an 'Ultimate Sonic Canon' hypercontinuity merge thing, is the 2 worlds thing. I think I've finally come up with a solution.

The power of the Chaos Emeralds, the Rings, and the Master Emerald, and all that stuff was completely blocked off from Station Square, to the point that it was almost like the city was in it's own little world completely separated from the rest of the world by an invisible barrier that no one was aware of. When Eggman had all 7 Chaos Emeralds and Chaos Control or a Genesis Wave was accidentally unleashed, it brought them (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and Eggman and his robots, not Cream as Sonic Advance 2 is after Sonic Adventure 2)and the Chaos Emeralds into Station Square, on the other side of that 'barrier'.

And that at the end of the equalivent of the events of Sonic X's episode 26, the Chaos Emeralds cause another Genesis Wave once they're brought together in Super Sonic, and the 'barrier' is broken, reconnecting Station Square to the rest of the world, including the Mystic Ruins and stuff.
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Yo, I'm the newfag from last night, so the talk about shadow the hedgehog and sonic 06 got me curious, and I pirated both. Now those are horrible, horrible games. My complain about Adventure's tone is of course present in Shadow, to the point where its so edgy that the game is almost adorable. I finished a run in like 2 hours or so, never touching it again. Sonic 06, I tried the first level and Sonic glitched through a rock and died, not touching it.

Gonna try Heroes and the Advance trilogy now. But seriously, should have listened to you guys.
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>>168929121
>kablam

Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
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>>168930529
Oh, you missed the best part of Shadow. Having to play it 10 fucking times
At least you spared yourself the Ark levels
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Pre or post-reboot comics?
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>>168930529
Heroes is pretty dodgy but hey might as well give it a shot.

>>168930952
Post.
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>>168930952
I prefer the pre-reboot.
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>>168930952
Post if you want something closer to the games. It's got its' issues and the first few years have been adaptations, but it's alright, got a lot of potential and some great new characters. It's not as great as the best of the pre-reboot but not as bad as the worst .Outside of WU it's consistently alright

Pre-reboot if you want something that vastly different from anything else Sonic related. Got some really good highs and some abysmal lows. Also ends abruptly due to legal issues so some things never get closure
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Best Sonic game to stream is Sonic 3 and Knuckles Complete right?

Would it be best to have it in full screen and go by way of Sonic's story first then Knuckles then Tails?
No voice over with mic or not?
Anyone interested in watching an Intermediate play the game?
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>>168925236
>Princess Elise III
>Not Maria
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>>168932290
Maria is dead. She's been dead for 50 years. Thus, she is disqualified.
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>>168930952
Neither.

The pre-reboot had a fuck ton of bad shit in it and while a lot was cleaned up and made better, a bunch of the bad elements remained and ultimately didn't even get a proper conclusion.

The post-reboot with the way they went about it feels very shallow and has left me completely uninterested in almost all the characters. Along with everything that's been happening outside the book with the lawsuits, bad decisions (10/10 page split, Worlds Unite), and these random hiatuses and now possible cancellation, I'm extremely frustrated and don't think I want to bother with it anymore.
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>>168932463
>has left me completely uninterested in almost all the characters.
Which ones do interest you then?

I will agree that while I like the content, the way a lot of it has been handled (Mostly by higher ups) has made the reboot a pain in the ass. We shouldn't be in the middle of ANOTHER hiatus, for the 2nd year in a row. This is fucking retarded
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>>168930952
Post, hands down.
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>>168932416
Okay, how about Madonna?
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>>168932776
Rotor improved quite well from what he was and actually has something going on. Relic makes a better female friend for Knuckles than Julie-Su. Eclipse is interesting to me with connection and interactions with Shadow.

I will say everyone is a lot more visually appealing design-wise, but that doesn't matter if I don't care about most of them.
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>>168934140
........................................

Uh....well....um....

I just ship Sonic Man with Elise, Okay!?
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How bad will the reaction be if Project 2017 is bad?
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>>168934785
>bad
But anon, it has Classic Sonic? It can't be bad if it has Classic Sonic.
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>>168934785
The same as if it was a 11/10 game.
>Shit game! Nothing I could do! I kept on pushing buttons and nothing happened!
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>>168934665
That's a good ship
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>>168934785
I don't know if I could stand another bad game.
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>>168934140
Rouge is madonna, obviously.
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>>168935707
Who's Katella?
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>>168935968

what a terrible OC
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>>168935968
Sonic is a bum with no education and no job.
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>>168935707
I was mostly going for the original Madonna, but okay.
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>>168934785
If good then
>Well, it's another shitty Sonic game from Sega! Will this *finally* be the game that puts an end to Sonic's long lineup of terrible games?! Spoiler: No.

If bad then
>Well, it's another shitty Sonic game from Sega! Will this *finally* be the game that puts an end to Sonic's long lineup of terrible games?! Spoiler: No.
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>>168934839
Like Classic Sonic gonna save it if it turned out bad.
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What if SEGA got a new mascot?
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>>168938220
Then we stop caring about Sega.

How would Sega's new mascot be?
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>>168938220
>>168938460
Bring back Alex Kidd!
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>>168938460
A pachinkoslot ball prize.
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How does Sonic do it? An 06 or a Boom by any other franchise would bury it completely, but Sonic still keeps on going?
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>>168940258
Have you ever seen a more dedicated (also see: autistic) fanbase?
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>>168940258
Because despite the numerous signs we should probably stop following Sonic, we keep going in the optimistic hopes that one day, our most hopeful wishes from this series becomes true.

The Sonic fanbase is like Amy Rose, desu
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>>168940258
He's Sonic the Hedgehog. He'll never stop running. Ever. No matter what.
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>>168940258
06 still sold well, they made money off of it.
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>>168940258
Having a dedicated fanbase for 15 years prior to 06 helps.
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>>168940258
Doesn't matter if what you put out is shit if the people keep buying it.
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>>168940258
Because people care. They are invested in the characters, they love the music, the art. They remember the stories and dialogs, and the memes about them. They bunch together to share and discuss these things, and end up creating great stuff that in turn creates even more discussion, and then a community of people that become friends.
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Is it a bit sad that, unlike Sonic, Metroid kind of did died with Other M and Federation Force?
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>>168940258
> Spend 10 years away from this franchise
> find myself coming back over last 2 years
> find this general
> Watching playthroughs/movies of old games
> Looking at reviews of games I missed
> Play Sonic Colors (really liked it)
> Hyped for Mania
> Replaying genesis games
> Actually thinking of reading the comics for first time in 20 years
> find myself unironically watching anime clips from this very thread

Is it too late for me?
Was it always too late?
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>>168941175
The sleeves look a bit silly.
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>>168941304
>F-Zero hasn't gotten a game and seems to be replaced by a similar game with a different name
>Soul Calibur is fucking dead
>Megaman flip-flops between zombie and dead


But hey, if Crash can come back albeit a remake then anyone can.
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>>168941543
It was always too late. Once you become a fan, you don't stop. Might as well embrace the autism and get into the comics. And have your heart broken
>>168941716
>>Soul Calibur is fucking dead
>>Megaman flip-flops between zombie and dead
Fuck you don't remind me
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>>168941716
Seeing the new cartoon and what Capcom did with SFV, I'm think being dead, albeit with the exception of the Archie comic, would be the best thing for Mega Man at this point in time.
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>>168941175
Shard looks pretty neat.
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>>168941175
It seems like the one thing that's consistent through all Nicole fanart is that she's always pretty.

Shard is my dude too, I know it won't happen but I really want him to come back in some form. Maybe he could be another one of the many prototype models of Metal Sonic found locked up in one of Eggman's bases or something?

I could actually see him being a modified Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3.
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>>168942189
Unless something major and unexpected happens, he's not coming back in any form. Legal issues are a bitch.
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>>168876431 >>168876548 >>168877023
Tell me about Sonic 3 Complete!!!

Why should I run this hack?!
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>>168942189
>I could actually see him being a modified Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3.
Speaking of Mecha, I want him to come back for Universe 100. Just have that issue be a robot slobbernocker
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>>168942189
>she's always pretty
Who would want to make her ugly?
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>>168942189
>I could actually see him being a modified Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3.

From what I understand that was originally going to be the plan for his return. But Ian let it slip on /v/, twitter (posts are now deleted), etc and shit was scrapped. Now whether it was a higher up going "You let it slip so now we can't do that because people will see it coming" or he hadn't told the bosses by that point and when he finally did bring it up they shot it down for legal reasons. Well we'll never know I suppose.
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>>168940258
RoL costed them money, only some of which they got back from the other Boom media.
06 actually sold relatively well so even though it's the single worst console Sonic game to exist, it didn't flop hard enough to kill Sonic. Secret Rings or Black Knight probably damaged Sonic more financially since they both sold like shit despite being better than 06 (a lot better in BK's case). The worst 06 did was kill off any chance of another adventure style game out of pure fear and maybe lead to future games selling less than they would if 06 didn't exist from consumer fear of being burned again. Haha, that last one was a joke, folks. I'm here all week. I really am, though.
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>>168930952
Pre. Not even a contest.
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>>168930952
Post. None of the crap that was dragging the pre-boot, better OCs, & it fits the Sonic series much better. Not to mention, Amy, Knuckles, Sonic & Tails are done much better justice now than in the old comics.
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>>168930952
Post, purely on potential.
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>>168908508
>If you expect me to clean, then you're going to have to make a bigger mess than that
What did she mean by this?

Is she challenging you? Is she bullying you, trying to get you to make a huge mess that she has no intention of helping to pick up?

Or is she saying that she is overqualified, and for a lesser mess like this you shouldn't waste the time of the elite and should get a lesser maid like Amy or Rouge to clean instead?
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Colors intro was fucking impressive. I hope Marza has something to do with Project 2017. It's like a really tasty cherry on top.
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>>168945631
Yes.
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>>168945689
>tfw no Sonic game will be as colorful and pretty as this
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>>168946147
Honestly... Colors didn't impress me that much in terms of graphics or art direction.
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>>168930952
Pretty much all of my favorite moments and comic only characters are in the pre-reboot, so I guess pre reboot.
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>>168946271
Its still the only post GC/Xbox/PS2 era Sonic I enjoy visually.
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Is there any Sonic merchandise that you wish existed, but doesn't currently?
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>>168946673
An RC controlled drive mode E-102 Gamma.
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>>168940258
Autism and nostalgia.
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>>168946673
A giant Sonic plushie that's affordable and can be purchased at a store rather than won at some bullshit carnival game.
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>>168942876
Sonic 3 Complete basically features
Sonic 3 (solo) Sonic & Knuckles (Solo) Sonic 3 & K + Features from the PC version in which the music for Carnival/Launch Bas/ Every other stage in the PC port have different music due to copyright liability.

It also has the surperior Super Sonic Theme that is from the PC version which I enjoy.

Not just that but it can also rearrage stages so that Flying Battery Zone is at Night instead of Day and you can go to it early then later.

+ Other extras including Blue Sphere Game.
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>>168946673
Sonic trainers that look like his shoes, it seems so obvious but the closest they've got was slippers. Actually wearing them would be top tier autism, so it seems SEGA's somewhat self conscious of its fan base.
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>>168946969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqvIfKSTwTI
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>>168946594
Honestly Generations looks BEAUTIFUL. Generations did to planet wisp what Colors could not. (at least until it becomes a long extended 2D section for 20 minutes.)

It spiced up The boring brown rooftop run with lots of brightly colored confetti.
Every stage was far better than the original version, visually.
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>>168946673
Model planes of the Tornados, Blue Eagle, and other franchise planes.
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>>168947376
I remember Generations having way too much light bounce for my taste, I hated how Green hill looked in that game.
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>>168946271
It was extremely good for a Wii game. You need to give it that qualifier. Obviously it's not going to be as good looking as Unleashed and Generations because it was a Wii exclusive, but it was excellent given the platform.

The art direction was also great because it was literally just a theme park in space, which was a brilliant setting for a Sonic game.
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>>168859541
>>Link Compilation<
>http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>>Released /sthg/ projects
>Green Hill Paradise Act 2

You guys made Sonic Utopia?
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>>168947689
Yup, sure did. That'll be 25 cents.
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>>168947689
Not Utopia, GHP2. And it wasn't a collaberative effort on our parts, the creator stopped by often when he was working on it to get input, so I guess it's considered as much a /sthg/ project as abt is a /sthg/ drawfag.
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>>168947516
>light bounce
Advanced graphical techniques of all kinds do not suit platformers.
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>>168947997
Is this the "overanimated" meme of 3D? How can you seriously argue that something looks too nice?
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>>168946673
I was going to suggest >>168946792 but I got a call.

I'd also rather it be high quality and on model rather than cheap. I'd be willing to spend on that.
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>>168948204
No one said that something looked too nice
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>>168947843
>Not Utopia, GHP2.
What the distinction?
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>>168948345
You mean besides the fact that they're two entirely separate projects?
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fix'd
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>>168948345
They're 2 completely different games
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>>168948494
delet this
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>>168948647
Okay how about this?
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>>168948731
Needs more sports tape.
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>>168948731
Throw on some sports tape, & you're good to go.
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>>168948784
>>168948876
I gotchu senpai
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>>168948996
Need some on his shoes too, don't want those things to chafe or fall off while he's running.
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>>168948408
>>168948592
But they look almost the exact same. Like, that's the very same engine. It couldn't be a different engine. Even the camera is similar.

Sure the models are different and the colors a little, but surely it's the same developer and engine.
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>>168949306
GHPA2 is totally different from Utopia. They're 2 different devs on 2 different engines and they play completely differently
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>>168949306
No, they were developed with the same intent (bring Sonic into 3D in a way Sonic Team never did) but they're different groups. GHP2 was created in Unreal Engine while Utopia says they made a custom engine.
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>>168949306
If you actually played them both you'd feel the difference.
Utopia is superior in every way.
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>>168949306
Fucking what?
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>>168938220
>>168938460
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>>168949118
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Downloaded a couple of the recommended Sonic hacks to my Retroarch setup. Plan to play the shit out of them tomorrow.

Why didn't I do this sooner?
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>>168938460
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>>168950891
Because you didn't think of it.
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10 more fucking days
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>>168951571
Champions Tails a cute
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>>168950972
Fish tits.
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>>168951571
Until what?
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>>168951571
What happens in 10 days?
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>>168952580

Switch release. Therefore Breath of the Wild.
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>>168878403
Cute!
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>>168952580
>>168952578
Sega announces Sonic Adventure 4
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>>168948204
The people who don't understand why overanimation is bad are certainly the kind of people who don't understand how overdone graphical effects could be bad.
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Naugus is in GUN Custody
remember the plans for season 3 of Satam?
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What's the most interesting thing they could show for Project 2017 at SXSW without revealing too much? Things like name of people working on it, kick ass music, an animation, what do you think?
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>>168954594
>Writer: Ken Penders

Remember "Interesting=/=Good"
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>>168954594
The identity of the new character. Maybe the new gameplay mechanic too, if that's not considered "too much"
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>>168954882
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>>168947516
Link Sonic is such a cutie. We need more Sonic dressing up as other video game characters.
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>>168955132
A train wreck is interesting. That does not mean a train wreck is a good thing.
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How do you, eh.... start reading the comics?

I mean, do you start at issue #01? For which ones? Like, do you have to?

This is kind of overwhelming.
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>>168955442
You start at issue 0.
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>>168955442
You start at issue #252 for the current main stuff, & if you want to read the other comic Sonic Universe, the current stuff for them starts at issue #50
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>>168955112
So the Boom Sonic reveal then?
>>168955442
Anyone got the chart? For the pre-reboot, start at issue 1. For the reboot, Sonic 252 and Universe 55, as that's when the current continuity begins. There's some pre-reboot stuff mentioned early on via memories, it's not relevant, don't worry. There's also a thing called Worlds Unite later on. Skip it, not relevant and not good
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>>168955442
Easiest way is to simply start at the reboot. Start with the first Sonic/Mega Man crossover called Worlds Collide because it was specifically written to appeal to people like you who weren't familiar with the comics. Then continue with Sonic #252 and Sonic Universe #55. Universe takes place in the same continuity and usually (but not always) focuses on game characters other than Sonic. The short Boom comic is completely separate from the main continuity. Skip the second crossover (Worlds Unite) because it's garbage and means nothing, unless you're fine with reading garbage. Once you're caught up on the reboot, start the pre-reboot material with issue #0 and go from there. Ignore anyone who tells you to start partway through the pre-reboot because they're idiots.

There's also a UK comic called Sonic the Comic but it's completely unrelated to the Archie comic.
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>>168955627
Sorry, issue 55. Also you could read the preboot comics (issue 0-251), but there's a lot of crap there.
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What /sthg/'s opinion on the UK Sonic the Comic?
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>>168956240
Weird but enjoyable.
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>>168956240
No one here has read it.
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>>168956240
Only piece of Sonic media I haven't fully completed. Just didn't click with me.
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>>168956240
Much the same as the early comics. Had good parts. Had bad parts. At its best it was quirky but fun. At its worst it was a stupid fucking drag with shitty art. That entire fucking Shanazar arc should've purged from existence.

STCO is pretty bad to be honest.
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>>168956240
Fleetway Super is the best use of super sonic in any medium. Amy was a better sally before sally even existed and they had the best emerald style and lore. Had some great art at times, got wonky all over the place, shouldn't have been just 6 page stories but that's the UK standard at the time so I can't really blame them, it was essentially a 2000ad for kids, same setup with megadroid as tharg etc.
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>>168956240
That's the last one I read. It's literally not available as far as I can tell.

Most of them have that robot-imorphs, K.N.O.T.H.O.L.E., Sally Acorn stuff from that weird TV show. I swear that shit is like, __THE SOURCE__ of the weirder autisms.

Like, do I need to watch the show before reading these comics? I, don't even anymore.
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>>168956240
It was different, but not bad. At least when compared to preboot Archie. All I can think of from that comic are Evil Super Sonic, Sonic being more dickish than usual, Teckno, Morphia, "lesiban" Amy being quite cool, God Robotnik eating cake.
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>>168956673
Nah, you can skip the cartoon.
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>>168956673
Not really. You can jump into either continuity without exposure to any of the cartoons.
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>>168956673
The UK comic has nothing to do with the US cartoons. They have a Sally but only because "Sally Acorn" was the US/UK name for the generic squirrel animals in the games. UK Sally Acorn isn't a princess, shows up in a small number of comics, and ends up becoming a news reporter.

The US comic starts off as sort of a weird combination of the two cartoons, with the setting and cast of SatAM but the tone of AoStH, until the comic gets more drama-heavy of course. But in terms of actual continuity watching the cartoons is not needed at all for the comics. They pretty much did their own thing.
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>>168957046
>They pretty much did their own thing.
Should probably add to this that while the post-reboot is a lot more in line with the game continuity, it's still very much its own thing. The comic's always been that branch of the franchise that kind of ignores what the other parts are doing
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>>168957171
>The comic's always been that branch of the franchise that kind of ignores what the other parts are doing
Pretty much every branch of the franchise does this. The comics do their own thing, every one of the cartoons do their own thing, the anime does its own thing, the games do their own thing. There's pretty much no overlap.
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Sonic 291 delayed to April 26th.
https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/NOV161172

Sonic 292 delayed to May 24th.
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161281

Sonic 293, 294, and Sonic Universe 97 have not changed, but will likely soon.
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>>168957297
Oh for FUCK'S SAKE WITH THIS SHIT
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>>168957297
If I was SEGA, I'd just pull the license at this point. This is such bullshit.
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>>168957545
SEGA is likely the cause of the delays
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>>168957297
Let's suppose this mess just ends with another delay, but the legal shit or whatever is causing said delay gets settled and the comic is given green light to continue... would it actually be worth it to do it? After how much the sales dropped from the last hiatus, how do you think sales end up after this? Man, what a stupid way to destroy a perfectly profitable product.
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>>168957674
>what a stupid way to destroy a perfectly profitable product.
That's pretty much modern Archie in a nutshell.
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>>168957674
Only way to really salvage sales is basically make a big fucking deal out of the milestones then use those as jumping on points with a renumbering
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>>168957604
Maybe, but after all the bullshit that's gone on with this comic from Penders forcing the reboot, to the reboot being fucked left & right with hiatuses & other nonsense, I wouldn't be surprised if this is just Archie being Archie.
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>>168957674
Not to mention there's probably still a lot of people who think it is cancelled.
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I think the only good thing to come if the comics come out of this one is going to be all that Shadow pandering.
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>>168911429
I don't mean to sound racist but they look alike.
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>>168957297
Almost feels like they're just delaying the inevitable.
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>>168957674
Direct sales are likely dead for good. They don't matter as much as subscriptions and newsstand sales, but having all these rumors spread around and casual readers not seeing Sonic in the stores for 4 or possibly more months has to leave some kind of blow to the sales.

The milestones coming up will help, but what they will really need to do is actually advertise their comic book for once or just do another crossover.
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Would you play it /sthg/?
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It's surprising how ripped he got after a year I think.
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Would you play a game with these two in it?
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>>168960463
Probably.
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>>168960463
Eh, drop the blue one.
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Would you play a knucklevania?
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>>168962139
Maybe
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>>168962139
I think a 2D Metroidvania would work better for Tails. Knuckles+Chaotix should get a 3D collect-a-thon.
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>>168950282
GAH GET IT AWAY
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>>168962181
>Shard loses Nicole to the guy with two dicks
Kek
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>>168962804
Tails is a man whore.
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>>168962804
>implying
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>>168962139
>>168962330
Ok which scenario would you prefer for a possible fangame;

>knuckles fall in a hole/whatever and found an ancient civilization and must explore because reasons. Stumbles across ancient knowledge for upgrades. Scenarios mostly composed by ruins, archictecture mostly inca/Mesopotamia/mayan inspired plus more nature. Some original characters donut steel may appear.


>eggman builds a new death egg and its huge and totally sonic proof! Only knuckles can explore it and find a way to disable it! Scenario its a technological lore, mostly, and some areas like fancy dinner's room here and there. Knuckles tumbles upon upgrades. Only canon cast no OC.

Please, your opinion would greatly help me!
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>>168962889
That would imply that he's much of a man.
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>>168963127
He is a man.
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>>168963301
>Amy
I know that face. I know I know that face. But I don't remember from what.
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>>168962921
>he doesn't know

>>168962889
It's not his fault every lady wants him.
It's ours. Why is he everywhere?
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>>168963524
Rip and tear
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>>168963662
Sounds more like you don't know. Little cuckboy only has 1 and he'll never score.
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Anyone have the gif of Tails getting punched by a Swatbot in Chronicles?
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>>168962139
Code it.
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>>168963730
Have uh, you never seen any lewds of this series?
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If Tails has two dicks can he fly with them at the same time with his tails?
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Good news!
Sega announced they will continue there trend of letting fans develop their games and will be copying Nintendo and switch all first party to UE4!
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>>168962889
>this guy draws cute tails shipped with every girl that is some what lewd
>he is the opposite of that one guy who draws tails getting cucked out of spite since he got mad that people shipped tails with rouge
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>>168964418
So, like what? He wanted to even it out?
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>>168964610
Its a literal example of an autistic fit, he saw something that he didn't like and couldn't comprehend it so he started spamming cuck porn thinking he's "winning" something.
The sad thing is this isn't the only type of thing like this that is happening, someone started having his OC commissioned raping Pokegirls and got mad as fuck that people didn't like it so he doubled down, and even funnier was some guy was spamming R34 sites with black edits of porn and got banned multiple times for it since they were just MS paint shit.
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>>168964857
>Enjoy /ss/
>Dislike Tails being shipped with anyone
Am I broken?
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>>168963842
Yes. Very few portray him as you see him while very many portray him as he actually is.
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>>168965189
All I see him as is a guy who somehow manages to be the one everyone draws to fuck their waifu.
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>>168965430
>gets fucked by
He's a toy and will never canon score. He is Beavis.
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>>168965705
>implying anyone in this series will canically score
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>>168941543
lol
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>>168965796
>implying literally everyone else won't score
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really wanted to get a switch ro play sonic mania in bed but im not sure about the dpad. it looks like shit
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Will Miyamoto implementing rolling physics in Odyssey be what single-handedly "inspires" Iizuka to add proper rolling to the next 3D Sonic game?
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>>168965185
Well, do you like /ss/ outside of this franchise? If not, then you might as well as commission someone to do /ss/ that isn't Tails for you. However, the only shotas other than Tails are Charmy, Ray, and Chris.
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>>168967551
>What is Classic Sonic?
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>>168967026
>Izuka
>Learning from past mistakes
>Taking advantage of predecessors and using the technology to his advantage.
>Listening to fans complaints and changing the games accordingly
Hahahha
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>>168967873
>Listening to fans complaints and changing the games accordingly
To be fair, with Sonic that is pretty much impossible to do without making 6 or 7 different games at once.
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Post dem OSTs

https://youtu.be/6o47N-aYd08
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Would you befriend Sonic?
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>>168969740
I guess, but who would you rather befriend among Sonic's friends?
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Ok, so far Heroes is a mix bag, I love the levels visuals, music and believe it or not, I really like the level design and the team mechanic. My problem is with the physics which are different from the Adventure games, not sure if they are for the better or worse though, I dont have a problem controlling the characters, but they feel weird.

Story tone is actually something that I liked, even with Shadow and Rouge, Omega is fantsstic and I had a lot of fun hearing him deliver sick burns to his enemies. Dunno, I am liking Heroes, but I still have to finish it. Tomorrow is my free day, so probably will spend it playing Heroes and Advance 1 since really, even when I have like a month or so playing these games, they really are a lot of fun.
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>>168970971
I also forgot to ask if Sonic 4 is any good.
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>>168970971
Glad to hear you're having some fun with Heroes, anon.

>>168971057
All depends. I haven't played it myself, but 4 disappointed a lot of fans who wanted a game like the Genesis ones.
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>>168970971
Sonic Heroes was my first 3D sonic game and in my opinion it's the best of the "dreamcast" era.
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Goodnight /sthg/, I'll probably see all of you in the next thread.
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>>168971057
The only plus that I got out of 4 was that you could play as Metal Sonic if you owned both episodes.
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>>168877182
CD's levels were specifically designed with time travel in mind, so unless that was the focus of Mania, I'd rather them not.

But in the "no bottomless pits, lots of verticality, backtracking is almost fully possible" sense? I think that'd be great. And Mania already looks like it's taking an approach somewhere between that, and 3K.
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>>168969989
I'd rather befriend one of his robot duplicates.
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>>168969989
Sonic looks like he's gonna kill Pikachu.

Also

>who would you rather befriend among Sonic's friends?

Amy's cute, so her I guess.
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>>168949306
Are you an actual dum dum
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>>168905426
So.. Will you?
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YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING, SO DON'T EVEN TRY

GET SOME HELP
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>>168976174
DON'T DO WHAT SONIC DOES

DON'T EVEN TRY

SONIC, DEAD OR ALIVE, IS MINE
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>only 10 days until Switch
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>>168977347
>still no games
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>>168977347
>still God knows how many days until Mania
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>>168977347

>10 days until BotW
>9 days until BotW review funposting
>9 - x days until BotW leak funposting
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>>168957297

Notably, Sonic Megadrive: Overdrive has yet to receive a new date, if it will get one.
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Everyone here needs to accept that the comics are as good as cancelled. The signs are blatant.
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you guys have no idea how comfy this thread feels as a horrible sonicfag who has trouble staying in a closet
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>>168961913
>you will never squish Nicole with ads as you leisurely browse for porn
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>>168908508
> a bigger mess
I would take that as a personal challenge, holy shit.
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>>168981121
Yes I do. I also know how you feel you fag
Enjoy it before the shitposters arrive.
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Oump
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>>168862081
At least she had a character
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>>168878403
I want to fuck mina
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>>168986932
There's tons of artists that know how to draw her still.
Submit a commission request.
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>>168973501
you don't put ketchup on hot dogs

im looking at you new york
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>>168969989
Silver could use a friend
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Uh oh, Silver.
Seems to be spreading to other games.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qifeJRrPXMU

THE LORE THICKENS
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>>168989246
pointless rambling about with a flimsy theory but it's well presented.

he'll will proberly be a huge success
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>>168989246
The 'theory' pretty much hinges on the fact that the Death Egg has a mechanical support facility of sorts similar to Scrap Brain.

Other than that, it's entirely headcanon.
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Why do anti-amy faggots get triggered easily by sonamy?
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>>168991770
Because Sonally fucking DEAD
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>>168989246
Maybe Scrap Brain Zone IS the Death Egg, only before it launched!

>>168991770
Probably cause they're Sonally or some other non-Sonamy shipper.
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>>168991770
Because Sonamy is scum, you are SCUM.
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>>168988021
Really? I put ketchup on my hotdogs all the time.
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>>168997081
>Sonamy is scum
Only because sonic is a faggot.
As soon as he notices what's right in front of him, it will be perfect. PERFECT!
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>>169000309
I mean if you wanna put Sonaze above Sonamy that's your opinion, but

>Sonails

wew lad.
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>>169000309
This guy knows what's up
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>>169000309
This
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>>169000309
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>>169004480
No.
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>>169004563
Yes
https://youtu.be/fM_ZDnI9EZM?t=9m17s
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>>169004871
Nah.
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>>169004928
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>>169005136
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>>168991770
Because it involves Amy.
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>>169007406
Could you imagine their rage if Sonic & Amy ever happened in the games?
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>>169009829
Good thing it won't.
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>>169009971
Never said it would, I'm just saying that the amount of salt that would be coming from the people who get triggered at the mere sight of SonAmy, would be hilarious.
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>>169010085
The salt would come from more than just people like myself that dislike Amy. Considering Sonic is forever a teenager, he works better as a bachelor.
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>>168995275
Genuinely fucking amazing
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>>169010226
>The salt would come from more than just people like myself that dislike Amy.

That just makes the idea more funny, desu.
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>>168962889
why is the computer naked
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>>169010430
There are plenty of better ways to generate salt and much more niche ships to generate salt from shippers.
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>>169010248
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>>169010676
Not from the type who makes tumblr posts about how "SonAmy is SCUM."
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>>169005142
>sad that Shard has been Pendered, Nicole starts to hang out with Sonic
I would read this desu.
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>>169009829

What if they legitimately got him hitched with a Chili Dog.
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>>168989246
I never thought about it before but I really like the idea that the Death Egg is a weaponised Miracle Planet.

I love the idea of Eggman basically roboticising and entire planet (albiet small one) to roboticise a larger one. It makes him way more of a threat than some guy who built a spaceship that keeps crashing.
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>>169005142
sonic's noise instead looks like nicoles shocked eye like she's recoiling in horror.
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>>169011140
They haven't already?
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>>169011140
>Sonic gets married to a chilidog
>then eats it
>vore fags start swarming into the fandom more than ever
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>>169010895
You do realize that the bigger the fanbase for a character, the more likely some autism master will spring up.
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>>169011489
I do, but I've seen my fair share of those types.
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>>168989246
Sonic-fandom is the purest form of autism.
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Okay, so Sonic Heroes is very fun so far, the team mechanic helps a lot to bring tons of interactivity into the levels. Last levels seems to be taking a hit in quality tho.

But I just gotta say that so far, I don't see why the press and a bunch of people says that Sonic hasnt been good since the genesis games or that he was never good, period. I can see the adventure titles being mind blowing when they came out, heroes is pretty fun and advance 1 is great so far.

I dunno, how was the impact of 06 in the general public?

>>169011841
That is the MLP fanbase, soon to be dethroned by the splatoon one. Maybe this thread cannot be used as an indicative, but still gotta say that you guys are pretty chill
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>>169013980
06 is pretty much what started the whole "Sonic hasn't been good since the Genesis games/ever" meme. Usually, it's been done as a a cheap way to get clicks & views from pissed off Sonic fans.

>you guys are pretty chill

Thanks, but sadly, every once in a while, a shitposter from another board (/trash/) will try to steer up nonsense. Outside of that, these threads are usually chill.
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>>169013980
Autism is spreading quicker with each new fandom.
Sonic held the title for years, MLP came and took almost all our autists for like 3 years, and then Undertale, FNAF, Overwatch and Steven Universe just wouldn't stop.
Sonic is pretty normal these days.

>>169013980
Also, your previous one, 06 shafted it hard. With each newer installment in the franchise past that people started praising the classics more, which then led into people retroactively calling the Adventure and Heroes games shit They had their flaws mind you, and for some reason the line of thinking has got so mainstream that people are actually shitting on Sonic 2, one of the defining and most popular platformers of all time.

It's just shitters being shitters. Sonic 06 is legit bad though.
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>>169013980
>I dunno, how was the impact of 06 in the general public?
Devastating. I mean, it's still (rightfully) considered one of the worst games ever made and pretty much set off the whole "Sonic was never good" thing.
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>>169013980
/mlp/ and Splatoon are not as pure. Not as raw. Not as memetic.

In 20 years they will be all but gone. Sonic will remain. Remain as long as there are autists.
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>>169014508
>>169014305
It is a shame, I didn't like the adventure games that much thanks to shooting galleries levels and the darker tone, but they had some legit great ideas and even great executions of those great ideas. Hating on Sonic 2 is pretty idiotic, S2 and S3K are some of the best platformers that I have played, hell I didn't doubt to place S3K in the same level as DKC2 the moment I finished that game.

As for the autism part, I think that there are many fanbases with worse autists than Sonic. Adventure Time comes to mind or the MCU and DCU fanbases, I am a star wars fan and I can say that the autism is strong there.
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>>169015342
Yeah, Sonic fans in general are pretty normal. I think people like to overexaggerate about the fandom because it's Sonic. And the occasional weirdo like Paul&Amy & CWC doesn't help matters, either.
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>>169015775
Oh, & Alix Henriol
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What is the context of the picture twan is holding here? I'd expect it to be a half ripped picture of him and bunnie split, but it looks like him and bunnie cut out of the FF?

I thought patch made him and bunnie split so a pic of the FF without ant makes more sense, is there an issue that explains this photo?

I'm totally not redrawing this story as we speak.
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>>168977347
>tfw waiting for that
>have to wait 2 more days after until my copy of DQH1/2 shows up
>have to wait months for Mania
>have to wait years for Sonic 2017
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I really, really, really, really, really, REALLY hate how everyone that wasn't Sonic and Shadow were so nerfed in Sonic X. I mean, it's like, in the games, most of these characters are nearly as fast as Sonic to various degrees, and can all spin dash and stuff, but in Sonic X, all of those abilities are removed and thus they become mostly helpless as a result.
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Why does the reboot insist on hitting me over the head with Nicole and Sally's cute relationship constantly

not that I mind of course
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>>169019265
Because both character have literally nothing else going for them post-reboot.
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>>169018164
Ever since Sonic X they forgot that Tails could fight without a weapon, That goes for the games,too. It's sad, the closet thing Tails has seen combat wise is firing off a few shots at the zeti when he got robotized and smashing eggman's bots ith a wrench in Boom.
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>>169019571
I know it's the truth, but why must you hurt me like this anon
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>>169019571
You could fix that by killing Nicole. Her arc is at its end anyways, and if the next arc reveals that Phage deleted her and took her place it'd be one hell of a reveal
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I think both Sally and Nicole are perfect post-reboot
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>>169020512
Agreed.
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So is this the end for handheld side projects?
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>>169020404
What's with you guys and having character death be the solution to everything?!
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>>169021070
If a main character dies, it makes instant drama, gets rid of 'boring' characters, and therefore the comic instantly improves!
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>>169019772
Tails is the worst offender, yes, because they completely ignored half of who he is. Tails' abilities are Sonic + Eggman. In Sonic X and Sonic Adventure 2, and a few other games they overemphasized the Eggman and erased the Sonic.

But Amy, Cream & Cheese, and even Knuckles suffer as well.
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>>169021070
It's just one guy.
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>>169020737

nah
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We have a pretty rough idea of how the "Genesis Era" went down in the comics, in terms of the Freedom Fighters' involvement and stuff.

But what about the Dreamcast Era, in the post-SGW universe? Are there any details on notable events that occured for them in that era?
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>>168988827
>I had to jump continuities, but I'VE GOT YOU NOW IBLIS TRIGGER
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>>169021421
What makes you think that?
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>>168970971
Sonic heroes is underrated in my opinion

i fuck with it
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>>169017040
So that explains where you've been
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>>169000309
impeccable
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>>169021574
In the issue right after Countdown to Chaos, Antoine and Bunnie mention that they don't remember being in Station Square in the new timeline when Adventure went down, but remember being there in the old.

So I'd assume it's just the same sans Freedom Fighters for whatever reason.
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>>169020512
I think you're alright.
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>>169020512
I think Sally is fine and Nicole has regressed to being the worst Freedom Fighter.
>>
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i might actually sit in a depression corner if the comics are canceled for good

regardless of my continuous complaints, there's so much potential post-reboot it's not even funny

>>169024490
what makes you say that?
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>>169025681
>sit in a depression corner
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>>169024219
Something really bugs me about how inconsistently drawn she is. She's always cute but sometimes she looks like a straight-up different character (in a really good way), like pic related. I know they're different artists and this is a given but damn.

I honestly like whoever did the art for this particular scene though, it fits the Sonic universe but doesn't look as cartoonish and "uniform" as the comics tended to look sometimes.
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>>168877119
>Knuckles might be playable
I might actually have to play this trash
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>>169026556
>I honestly like whoever did the art for this particular scene though

That's Evan Stanley
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>>169028286
Thank you anon, I don't really know my dudes like that.
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>>169028448
>dude
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>>169023041
Life has been kicking my ass lately, but with the convention that Ian is going to (and there's a slim chance of ABT maybe) in less than a month I figure it's about time I bit the bullet and did some portfolio pages again.

Last time I asked people were saying Armand's death would be a good short story to redraw. Which makes sense as it's a slow solemn one, but if I get it done soon I'm gonna be looking for a more action oriented story or sequence to draw as well. Any suggestions?
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>>169028571
>apparently Evan Stanley isn't a dude
I apologize for rudely assuming an artist's gender based on their first name.
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>>169028851
Don't feel bad, I did the same for several months.
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>>169028851
That's okay, anon.
I made the same mistake for like a whole year
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NEW THREAD

>>169028896
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>>169028709
You want action? Do this fucking train wreck justice.
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My thread now.
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Let's say that the first season of Sonic X is adaptated into the games universe, taking place before Sonic Adventure, with some slight alterations such as the two-worlds thing being changed to Station Square existing inside it's own 'bubble' that separates it from the rest of the world, and Cream&Cheese and Rouge aren't around yet, but Chris still exists (hopefully with better writing or characterization or whatever).

The first half of the first episode is the opening cutscene, and the rest of the episode is the first level, Speed Highway, with a rival race against Sam Speed.

The true final boss is Super Sonic versus "Egg Fort II" or whatever it was called, and the ending is Super Sonic using the emeralds' power to break the 'barrier' around Station Square, opening it up to the Mystic Ruins and the rest of the world, and Sonic goes off on a solo adventure before returning in Sonic Adventure.

How would the rest of the game be?
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