/dng/

So does anyone have an example decklist for Dark Synchro so I can see how it works?

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Remember to choose wisely.

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THIS CARD ART IS UGLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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S T E A D F A S T

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I want to fuck this Rabbit

>>168816972
cute boy

Is Blue-Eyes meta now with Link Summoning?

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>Gofu SS Token
>Token change into Missus Radiant
>proceed to masturbate
It's still (barely) alive, boys.

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Theory: Konami made the Link mechanic to make players go beyond the 40 card deck limit, and is gonna overcome the Accel Synchro/big Fusion/big Xyz fuck-up by printing more easy to SS monster fodder to use for synchroing/fusing/xyzing/link summoning.

For example, if you had to mill 20 cards to summon an Accel Synchro in pre-Links era, you'll now have to mill 40 cards in a 60 card deck to summon the Link monsters to build the necessary field to summon an Accel Synchro monster during Links era, including using cards that pop your Link monsters after you've used-up their effects or they no longer link to a necessary monster zone similar to how you popped Pendulum Monsters in Pendulum zones after you've used-up their effects or their scale was no longer needed during the Pendulum era, thus essentially making Links Pendulums on steroids.

Thoughts?

>>168817324
>using dark tokens to make a link monster that requires earth materials

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>>168816975
Tewi

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>>168817417
>he doesn't know

Xth for the Link Mechanic actually ruined the game.

>>168817402
What the RULE CHANGE was meant to answer was pretty obvious. I wouldn't be surprised at more leniency towards easy to summon monsters now though.

>>168817556
Yth for people bitching who have yet to even play a link card.

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>>168817148
NOT A BOY!

>>168817535
>>Token change into Missus Radiant

>>168817402
Konami: We changed the game, now you cannot masturbate into stupid boards anymore. Except if you buy these new blue cards. Also we printed this Link 2 one that requires earth monsters as one of the first ones, so you cannot do it unless you use Zoodiacs. Buy more rat.

>>168817709
Spider is Earth. You summon two spiders and use both for Missus. You go from two tokens to one Missus.

When will we get the first link monsters anyway? In around two months? Or around the same time japan is getting them?

>>168817709
It's a pretty obvious combo just like Tour Guide change into Dante.
Or Terror into Rat.

>>168817834
Well shit.

>>168816972
Cute waifu.

>>168817886
not until after maximum crisis, so no sooner than 3 months

>>168817834
Huh, my bad then

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>>168817886
>two months
>Or around the same time japan is getting them
Remember D/D/D?

Season 0 was fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFIjxT2J0f8

why is tour guide at one but terrortop is still unlimited?

>>168818128
D/D/D was fairly optional, we have to get the starter before COTD

>>168817834
Whoa... that's big. Holy shit. I didn't realize that. That turns any two normal monsters into a 1/3 link-2. What does this mean. Huh. I don't know.

>>168817402
Let me correct that for you:

Konami: Fuck our customers, fuck the game, fuck your petdecks, fuck the long-term, fuck the R&D department, fuck virtually every deck made in the last 9 years, fuck double sleevers, fuck custom sleeves/mats, fuck rulings, fuck Sychro monsters, fuck the banlist, fuck the TCG

And fuck you. Now go buy our Link monsters and Zoodiacs.

>>168818005
That´s enough time to calm down and gauge the mess then. Thanks.

>>168818128
I didn´t play D/D/D so I didn´t keep up with that delay. So no.

>>168818160
Because you touch yourself at night.

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>>168818160
>terrortop
>still unlimited
Soon.

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>>168818135
Modern retrain when?

>>168817702
why she has a scorpion in her mouth

>>168817324
Sure just burn 3 ED spaces for an enabler that'll get handtrap loli'd

>>168818437
Because she's both a shit and ugly waifu.

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>>168818437
shes an /absolute madwaifu/

Duel Link God here.

I'm so glad you otk punks will be humbled with Link monsters.

>>168818501
>I always draw my out!
That's why I put barely there, anon.
And Reaper is solid proof that ED space mean shit.
And surely Link Spider and Radiant won't be the only Link monster available.

Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWrKDpiJ3Uc

>>168816975
I want to fuck you ;)

>>168818698
>proceeds to Zoodiac FTK as usual
wew boy

>>168818307
We should be seeing and playing with them well before then I believe with the starter deck which seems to have a pretty good starting engine since they have the combo of link markers you need to set up a good amount of extra zones, though you may need to use some weird cards in order to support their requirements for the time being. General decks will really want Missus Radiant and Gaiasaber eventually though.

No but seriously are Blue-Eyes viable in a link summon era?

>>168819079
yea

>>168818228
It's still a solid example for KoA upper limit on delaying stuff.

>>168818698
Thank you Duel Link God for cucking all the petdecks instead of the current top decks. Now I can continue playing Zoodiacs unopposed for 3 more months. :)

>>168816859
Superheavys will be forgotten when Arc-V ends but I'll remain STEADFAST and keep using them

>>168818892
And if you look in the comment section, some french guy posted a 2 card combo as opposed to this video's 4 card combo.

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>when your opponent is running 3 twin twisters and you rely on field spells and continuous spells/traps

Link monsters is a GAY mechanic.

Prove me wrong, nerds. PROTIP: you cant't.

>>168819609
Not as gay as xyz
Two MEN overlaying on top of each other?
Gay as fuck

>>168819609
Link monsters are the only thing letting your old mechanics work now, you should be thanking link monsters :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)

>>168819609

I disagree

>>168819609
>you cant't.
So Link monsters is not a GAY mechanic?

>>168819862
underrated post

>>168819862
delete this

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>>168819862
>>168819883
>>168819905
>>168819973

>>168819862
>2 beyblades stack atop each other
>upon which a blue italian man then lays atop
>then after standing up and sitting down, a lady sits on his face

>>168819079
No. They need their synchros to win and synchros are dead.

>>168819413
>Gofu+Arma masturbate into Sohaya -> Donglong -> Power Tool
>SS Decode Talker
>SS Sohaya, DDR Sohaya, change them into Accel and then Quasar
Fucking Gofu, man.
Can even bait Reaper into banishing Missus Radiant/Link Spider first by Gofu SS Token.

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>>168820362

So why did Konami think it was a good idea to introduce a mechanic that ruins almost every deck they've ever made/

Will goyo defender get a retrain?

>>168819862
When you link another monster on the field basically you're just creating a buttfucking chain.

>>168820946
We won't need one if improper summon goes to MMZ.

>>168820913
It's obvious when you say it like that; It forces people to buy the new cards to continue playing and devalues older decks to such a degree that they're gonna be even less attractive to play pushing people to only buy fresh new cards and stop buying older cards which don't make them money.

>>168820913
Because people bitched about extra deck spam and the rule change was a convenient way to answer that while also allowing them to shill a new mechanic.

>>168820913
It's a clever way to force you to pay out for more product to just play the game without trampling on the current line of product.

>>168821031
>bahamut will still be able to summon toad
this will be spicy. i can already see the butt hurt

I want to make a cuck theme deck. What archtype/cards do I use?

>>168816769
Still hoping for one.

Put back together Quickdraw Synchron on Percy and goddamnit I can't stop spamming Synchros everywhere.

I'm going to fall in love with this terrible game all over again.

>>168821220
Synchro masturbation.

>>168816769
>>168821360
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck_search.fcgi?CardDeck=0&Card=TDIL-JP013&Flt=1&DeckType=22&DeckType=27

>>168821220
Noble Knights

>>168820913
So you would have to buy their new cards instead of playing with just your old ones.

Should I order a box of Fusion Enforcers or nah

>>168820913
Its forces players to buy the new products so they can play their old decks while casting the illusion that its for the sake of the players and making the game healthier by slowing it down.

Its basically killing two birds with one stone.

>>168820913
Because we needed you to stop playing with those dirty old cards that you've already bought and buy our shiny new blue cards goy- I mean prized customers.

And while you're at it, be sure to buy plenty of Gems on Duel Links, our exciting new DLC on Legacy of the Duelist, and our beautiful pristine official Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME (TCG) sleeves and playmats made by Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc. (KONAMI). :)

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FIX YOUR DAMN SERVERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raE90lhzMIQ

>>168822879
PHISHED

>>168823513
soon

>>168823729
It's not a phishing scam, dummy. Anyway what could they do with my fake email address made for signing up for things, but no password?

>>168819862
link monsters literally hold hands

>>168818501
The handtrap lolis outside of Cherry won't do shit to the current links. Ghost Ogre won't kill them because they won't be activating any effects and Ghost Ash has nothing to negate.

I love the new rules guys!

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>>168825465

>>168816532
enough already

>>168825579
I unironically like them.

>>168825692
Me too, but I don't know the full scope of the impact of the rules change so. From a pure design perspective I genuinely think Pendulums were way worse.

>>168825845
Pendulums have the added negative of looking terrible from an aesthetic perspective.

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>>168825579
You thought it was a jew, but it was me, Dark Magician!

>Not watching our boy Billy shit on Jeff Jones

>>168825954
I actually think they look pretty good and wish all cards had their ratio of art to effect but I might be the minority on that. Maybe they could have even kept the pendulum text box but used it for flavor text on effect monsters. But oh well.

>>168825956
Begone Hebe; your Judaic magic nos non potest adficere!

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>>168818386
>He doesn't know.

>>168826228
My issue is with the colors. I think the portrait to effect box size it fine, and I agree that the extra box could be used for flavor text effectively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5eAc_aKX9o
>go to an event
>have to play against a little kid
wat do?

>>168827271
Get your ass kicked by their $700 netdeck their parents bought for them.

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>>168826321
Et non ardebit in te, ut et nova praecepta Domini Konami et me talem.

>>168827271
I bet you anything if I were to go to a local this would be it. Tons of 6-10 year olds and then me.

I just like watching these crazy mechanics brought into a card game. Pendulum was just so out there, Links re-rules the use of existing zones and brings back the old experimented zone placement mini game from before.
Konami's ingenuity for getting your money is on another dimension of think.

Billy Brake stylin on Jeff Jones

>>168825692
There's nothing wrong with the new rules in a vaccum, in a game that's existed for like fifteen years it's a fuckin stupid idea

>>168827698
>3d yugioh
dammit trump

>>168827271
The vendor at my locals has a kid and wife. Their kid is like 4 or 5 I think, and I wouldn't be surprised if he grew up learning the game.

>>168827698
A shame they had to essentially kill off 10+ years of YGO to do it.

>>168827407
I remember playing a kid who had a fully built BA deck
He summoned 4 of the monsters then overlayed 2 of them into not dante, and when me and my friend told him that means the other monsters blow themselves up he went and did it away
Still won but goddamn man read the cards

>>168827271
>at the very end some guy is trying to tell her what she could have done
>"I know I know, yeah"

She just wanted that guy to shut the fuck up.

>>168827658
Most YGO locals are high school kids. Playerbase has been getting a bit older since its stuck around for a while. That's my experience at least. There are no little kids at my locals.

>>168827963
A good chunk of that stuff is still possible and I feel like there will be more cards in the future that will bypass link restrictions. Something like a card that will link all of your zones for a turn or something at a decently large cost or will link a certain amount based on discarding cards/paying increments of life points.

>>168827698
Personally I think pendulums were pretty poorly designed. Links are much more elegant. Pendulum was am ishmash of mechancis that I don't really have any idea why they were combined. The core concept of monsters that can be either monsters or spells is fine but I don't know why they go to the extra, have the pendulum scales thing, or any combination of other things they do since it's all unrelated to each other. As far as I can tell all the mechancis that make up link monsters make sense for being there at least tied to the new rules.

>Dark magician is going to be meta i swear!!!!!
>Their shit targets and most of their protection comes from shielding themselves on backrow (i.e. Solemn Strike and Dimensional Barrier, soon to be ht cards, at least D.Barrier, strike can't even negate polymerization, its shit)
>Implying Dark Magicians can do shit once you MST the circle
ISHYGDDT

>>168828129
To be fair, people who try to explain shit like that are the worst. She probably already knows the combos from her parents shoving them down her throat and just fucked up once.

>>168827271
>magic the gathering card sleeves

What an epic memer.

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>>168828129
BEHOLD!

>>168828220
Targeting isn't really that bad anymore when you consider that Drancia, one of the biggest menaces of the current meta, runs on targeted destruction removal.

>>168828261
I just imagine now she built her own first deck and she was practicing with her dad and had a blue eyes in her grave along with a kuriboh, but she used monster reborn on the kuriboh instead cause she thinks it's cute and her dad punches her in the face.

>>168828285
I'm new here, what is this meme?

>>168828514
>because it's cute
I wonder if she plays something like Windwitches or 'dolches nowadays because they're cute?
That or she's a meta, $1000 Zoodiac netdeck whore.

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>>168827506
Your Latin is clearly much better than mine.

>go to locals first time with a deck that isn't very meta and you'd think would be fun to play
>everyone has a full deck of zoodiacs

What do?

>>168828837
I'm genuinely scared of going to my locals now because I play D/D/D and I don't wanna get fucked by a high schooler playing Zoo.

>>168828707
I wanted to play madolches because they're cute, right now I'm trying to learn ghostrick since they're cute and I love halloween.

>>168828186
That's still a neg, faggolo. And you have to BUY IT!

>>168828837
>>168828925
Have you tried reading your cards and playing without 5000 missplays? Because you will probably still win if you do this.

>>168828837
>walk in
>everyone is playing zootopias
>turn 360 degrees and walk out

>>168828984
FUCK OFF fiancheetos

>>168829109
t.zootopia player that is deathly afraid of the banlist

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So bongo, bongo, bongo, I don't want to tribute the Rhongo, oh no no no no no

>>168829081
Other older strategies will also get a chance to do something again. It's just trading one meta for another. We do it all the time in this game.

>>168828452
Drancia is mostly used for disruption, you never see Drancia popping a boss monster with her effect (then again, Viper.) Stuff like "i activate Lunalight Wolf, drancia eff ;) pop wolf" and then i just search another with wolf cuz i'm this good. Either way, Dark Magicians don't have the consistency to bring out a TIDDY MONSTER that can pop out a bitch, they need to wait for some shit to trigger Circle, which can be popped at ANY TIME, hell i go first against DM i just summon Drancia and the first thing i pop is the circle, the rest gets fucked by backrow and when i go second, i bait the circle then nuke their field gg ez. Dark Magician will NEVER EVER be tier 1 at the very least, enjoy the tier 2 petdecking, niggers.

>>168829213
why

>>168829293
I think people are way overstating the amount of "pet decks" shit on by, effectively, not being able to summon more than one extra deck monster a turn, especially considering that other decks are stuck with that too barring shenanigans like zoodiacs. I really don't think it's as big a deal as people are making it out to be at any level where you could feasibly play with "pet decks" and not get shat on by meta decks anyway.

>>168829515
Zoods are the only thing that people really need to worry about. No one wanted to play against shitty synchro masturbation decks anyway, which is where a lot of complaints come from. I'd love for this game to rely a little less on the extra deck again.

>>168828925
>>168829124
Man up guys. Locals aren't usually that competitive. Plus if everyone is playing the same thing it's easy to side, and you can maindeck hate.

>>168819609
Links can't be gay considering Honeybee is one.
And Honeybee is as straight as can bee.

>>168830071
it's actually honeybot
as in honeypot
which is slang for vagina in japan
>tfw konami literally made a card beegina

>>168830472
Big Bee Boobies

>>168829281
>make 5 mat rhongo
>normal summon eccentric to pop a monster
why

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>>168830913
See the bad thing about switching to MtG is they don't have cute cards.

>>168829515
I think people are way understating the amount of "pet decks" shit on by, effectively, not being able to summon more than one extra deck monster a turn, especially considering that other competent decks can circumvent said restriction easily.
I really think it's a big deal unlike what people are making it out to be.
Now you can't feasibly play with "pet decks" and not get shat on by meta decks after all.

>>168830913
Big first turn board you summoned there

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What would D.D. Monsters need in order to become relevant again?

>>168831064
I'd prefer a game where you don't need more than 1 extra deck monster at a time to begin with. We need more main deck power again. And you can make a Link monster pretty easily with just 1 normal summon, especially if you add cards like Dragonet. The structure deck is actually decent this time because it has a 1 card combo that will get you something decent to further your plays.

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>>168831115
For you.

>>168831435
Tell me about Red Dragon Archfiend, why does he wear the masks on his knees?

>>168831384
>Uni-Coat
>more fodder for Zoods to spam the board
Great card idea you got there.

>>168831384
D/D retrains.

>>168831513
Lot of loyalty for a revived Tuner.

>>168829281
>can end with Titanic Galaxy, Majester, and Kirin
>but noo, let me end turn with just Majester instead
Fucking shitter.

>>168831704
If I Strike your summon, will you die?

>>168830913
>Level eatering down a Stardust Warrior into a crystal wing
I'm not sure if Yusei would be horrified or impressed.

>>168831826
It would be extremely negateful.

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>>168831680
No, I want them to get their own support not become support for another archetype

its probably the only way isnt it

With the new rules. Is Yusaku unquestionably the strongest YGO protagonist disregarding Red Hat?
It's like he'd be the only one with a deck that actually works.

>>168831983
Yuma should still be able to work assuming you can xyz change with only one extra zone (which I can't think of a good reason why you wouldn't be able to). Yugi and Jaden also probably don't need more than one at a time. But considering Yusaku will have cards built with the new rules in mind he'll probably still be better.

>>168832186
Actually thinking about it all protagonists should still work for the most if we assume they play the way they do in universe except for Yusei. We must be in Blazar dragon future.

>>168831879
Here's a (you)

>>168832413
>people call Blazar the best of Yusei's Stardust evolutions
>this is only because its the only one we saw in this timeline
>Yusei lost to Z-One and synchro got murdered

There is any way to make a fun Symphonic Warriors deck?

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How do fabled decks do nowadays. I hardly ever see them. Did they just get power creeped out of the game?

>>168831412
>I'd prefer a game where you don't need more than 1 extra deck monster at a time to begin with. We need more main deck power again.
Unrelated sentence.
>And you can make a Link monster pretty easily with just 1 normal summon, especially if you add cards like Dragonet.
To put it another way.
You need to use your NS to make Link, instead of summoning your ED.
You know that NS is fucking precious, right?
>The structure deck is actually decent this time because it has a 1 card combo that will get you something decent to further your plays.
You know, what you said is so painfully generic that I'm almost sure it can be applied to every other structure deck.
Also, did I mention that Normal Monster bricks hard?

What are the link monster staples?

>>168832685
They can make Quasar/Sifr/Blazar pretty often (for now), but they aren't terribly consistent.

>>168832685
They're far more than power creeped out of the game now. Konami has outright denied you of that playstyle without lots of hoops in the game rules themselves.

>>168832685
They're quasar turbos featuring Ragin spam of indignation. And nothing else

>>168832737
>not even half of the ruling is clear
>gib me staples guyz
Fuck you.

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>>168832778
>>168832782
>>168832796

Damn, they seemed like they could be a pretty fun deck to play

>>168831384
Some good searches and monsters they can reliably summon. Maybe a Xyz monster or two? A searchable dimensional fissure would be gr8.

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>>168832685
When I was a pleb I made a Obelisk Turbo.dek with them.

>>168832614
Yes.

>>168832737
all of the ones revealed so far are going to important to decks that need to summon multiple extra deck monsters at a time.

>>168833040
well, okay, maybe not honeybot unless your deck can incidentally use it over gaiasaber since it is actually a little better than gaiasaber with certain boards if you can summon it.

>>168832737
>only 5 Link monsters revealed so far
I don't know, anon.
You can't use that empty space inside your skull?

>>168832982
Maybe we'll be lucky enough to have someone who matters in vrains use them and get some more support, especially some more decent fiends. They could probably spam out links no problem honestly.

>>168833040
There will be better ones in the future, but we all know this. I'd say that Gaia won't be useful for long, but Decode Talker will be good for the inevitable evolutions. Honeybot will be decent for a while, but will drop off once better link 2s come out. Missus Radiant will stick around for a while with or without Zoods because of stuff like that new Rescue Ferret.

>>168832737
brilliant fusion will be amazing when links come out, dont be surprised if it gets banned of limited

>>168833542
For the extra normal summon?

>>168833308
Honestly you could probably manage now if you go through the cards. The links currently revealed can help synchro spam as long as your goal isn't necessarily to end on a board of like 5 synchros. You justh ave to figure out new combinations of cards I think. All synchro decks can use Gofu for example which makes 2 link spiders into missus radiant which is probably gonna be a key engine.
>>168833453
I actually think Gaiasaber is pretty good, though of course it probably will fall off eventually. 26 is a really good number to be at and it's the easiest to summon. It might get played in synchro or xyz decks with mismatched levels just because you can randomly summon it with bad combinations of cards that previously did nothing, like for example in synchro decks if you have no tuner or something fire fists. And because 26 is such an important number it can kill a lot of things. And you're gonna need it until we get other 4/6 Links anyway since Honeybot isn't generic (though it might not matter since Link Spider and Decode Talker).

>>168833743
That and Seraph can be used to summon a link with Trick Clown/other monster.

>>168821220
D/D/D

>>168833743
and trick clown. its a free link 2 with an extra normal summon

>>168833879
Can you summon a link after filling your ED zone with seraph?

>>168834059
Should be able to, but it's unclear at the moment.

>>168833842
Also I'm not sure but there are some strategic implications of a beatstick that can't be turned to defense or set. It might not matter now but these things fluctuate. There might be a point in the future where turning to defense or setting is a huge thing and beign able to make a thing that is immune to it will be relevant, though honestly there will probably be less now that Links exist.

>>168820913
it forces to the players to buy the link monsters to still playing the game and they already know what no one fucking nip bothered to think twice before add zoodiacs to his deck desu

>>168834059
Can you tribute summon a monster if you have a fully occupied monster zone?

Top 32 for YCS Seattle
11 Zoodiac
9 Kaiju Zoodiac
1 Kaiju Artifact Zoodiac
3 Artifact Zoodiac
1 Zoodiac Kozmo
3 Infernoid
1 Metalfoes
1 Lightsworn Zombie
1 Paleozoic Frog
1 Burning Abyss

also note that it is known that one of the infernoid, the paleozic and metalfoes builds ran the zoodiac engine

Book of Eclipse is now a garbage card due to links.
Fuck.

>>168834059
we don't knwo for a fact but I believe you should be able to. It's the same reason you can tribute summon with a full monster board. But they could always rule it differently just for links

>28 zoos tops
wew

>>168828192
>other things they do since it's all unrelated to each other
explain further

>>168834284
Can I get back my BoM now that it sucks?
According to contact fusion rulings they might be able to Link with facedowns too

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Beat this board in one turn.

>>168834381
>>168834250
apparently on stream it was announced that 30/32 decks either ran zoos or at least ran the engine

>>168834508
sphere mode
hey wait

>>168834508
i dont need to break it when i can just call judge to dq him for using ocg cards

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>>168834508
Beat this board in one turn.

>>168834508
Twin twister+MST his backrow.
Go into Big-guy, Steal Slifer, Attack.

>>168834250
Kaiju Zoodiac is the best variant anyways. 2 - 3 field wide removal + raigeki will always be superior in this kind of format.

>>168834284
>Book of Eclipse is now a garbage card
Eclipse was always situational, it just got even more so with links.

>>168828837
>everyone has a full deck of zoodiacs
>*grin*
>shows dante AB deck

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>>168834967

>>168834780
Raigeki, SS Gofu, NS Armageddon Knight, make Quasar after 5 minutes of bullshit. I win.

>>168835253
THE CIRCLE MUST BE COMPLETE

>>168834438
It's easier to explain in comparison to something else so I'll use Links. The unique attributes of Links are
-No Levels (So synchros and xyz cant easily remove them)
-No Defense (so they can't change positions in order to not misorient their markers)
-Link markers (to compensate for the rules change and allow older decks to still try and summon multiple extra deck monsters)
>Links can lower the monster count for other Links (to make it so you can combine their linked zones and summon more extra deck monsters to make up for the rule change)

All their features kind of work together and make sense and their goal was clear. Compare to pendulums (there's a lot so I won't do all of them)
- Summonable from the extra if they leave from field to grave (I'm not sure what the reason for this is at all... to make up for the card advantage and set up needed for pendulum summoning?)
- Scales on either side of the card (If they weren't going to have differing scales, why was that necessary? Maybe aesthetic reasons so they can be placed on either side? But they could have put the scale in the middle of the card somewhere)
- Getting their own zone (So pointless they actually changed it now)
- Why do they summon from the extra to begin with? What does that thematically have to do with monsters that become spells?
I could go on and on with pendulums but I just hate their design. There design is just not as cohesive and purposeful as Links are

>>168835253
nice game yugibabs

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>>168835253
>using ocg results in discussing a TCG meta

All results so far showed otherwise.

>regional
Kaiju

>YCS
Kaiju variant leading top 8

I suppose i'll make a visual list for you to post so you could stop thinking japs and the west have the same meta.

>>168835253
Defend this yugibaboons

>>168835253
I wanna touch this dragon.

>>168835738
>using less than a month data
Nice job.

>>168835725
Yes i am a babby i want mommy drancia to feed me with her breast milk, i want to get hugged inbetween her breasts and get her warm cuddling on my head, i wish i was RamRam so Drancia could overlay on me and do /ss/

>>168836054
Ramram isn't a boy anon

>>168836054
Same but with Bullhorn

>>168836318
>not wanting to be thoroughblade to give her the horsecock

>>168836175
The girls are rat, dragon, rabbit, tiger, awoof, and cuckle

the boys are the rest

>Go o local store
>Buy 12 rage boxes
>Clerk (friend of mine) tells me I should open them there
>Suddenly 20 fatfucks get around me and starts recording my opening, making comments wherever I pull a Broadbull or else.
>Everybody wants to buy them or just touch them leaving them full of grease
Worse hour of my whole existence.

>>168836574
>cuckle is a girl
Wait
What

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>>168836645
of course she is

Will barrage jump in price again after this YCS? Would be nice to make some more dollarry doos.

>>168836595
Yeah rate boxes, My bad.

>>168836595
>buy 12 rage boxes
>be surprised when you're filled with rage

You only have yourself to blame.

>>168836780
As Memefernoid players give up hope of avoiding the deck it will rise a bit then hopefully the banlist will slap the deck into next week

>>168836930
I mean it's annoying, I just want to open my shit so I can trade or sell whatever extra I get. Not being recorded and turn into an attention whore in a fatfuck gangbang.

>Want ot build Red-eyes for Locals.
>Can't decide which variant I should build.
Fug.
What do you guys think will be better, Felgrand Red-eyes, Hieratic Tzol'kin Red-eyes, Gemini Memes red-eyes or Skilldrain artifact Red-eyes?

>>168837304
Depends, do you wanna get fucked by zoodiacs? Yes/Yes
If the answer is yes run any variant.

>>168837304
zoodiac red eyes

>>168837469
ZOODIAC OJINAMA TRIO

BRB BUYING STOCK FROM TROLL AND TOAD AND TCG PLAYER

>>168836318
Bullhorn is lolicon though, he's into Marmorat

What was the most expensive meta deck during its prime? I know a full zoodiac is like $800+ but were any higher than that?

>>168837957
My zoodiac deck was 2k desu

>>168837957
Probably Nekroz

>>168838046
How much did it cost?

>>168838153
a playset of brio alone was $450

>>168838046
Remember how hard they boned us with the rarity of all the important cards in the TCG?

What are the chances of Yuusaku having even a single tuner and or pendulum in his deck?

>>168837957
kozmo, teledad, nekroz

>>168838153
Their was videos if people opening huge cases and getting like 1 valk.

>>168838341
Do you remember what those costed in their prime?

>>168834819
That Slifer is immune to card effects other than god cards.

>>168838624
Summon V.F.D. declare DIVINE Drancia becomes DIVINE, drancia eff pop slifer gg ;)

>>168838727
You can't choose DIVINE.
You AUTISTIC fuck.

>>168835594
>(so they can't change positions in order to not misorient their markers)
The markers still work in defence, why is this not a mechanic of being able to change position to change the linked zones

>>168839023
Why the fuck can't you?

>>168838587
I've heard TeleDaD was like 1200

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>>168834508
Surprisingly easy.

>Synchro is a better Fusion
>Xyz is a better Synchro
>Link is a better Xyz
Really makes me think.

>>168838624
Then Synchro into Armades and Armory arm, equip Armory arm to Armades and then play double mage power.

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>>168834250
Do we have any decklists yet? Mainly that LS Zombie deck? Friend of mine wants it.

>>168839023
>you can detatch one xyz material then declare 1 attribute...
It never says which attribute and DIVINE is a legal attribute.

>>168835594
>- Summonable from the extra if they leave from field to grave (I'm not sure what the reason for this is at all... to make up for the card advantage and set up needed for pendulum summoning?)
this was necesary if konami wanted to sell the pendulums, better they go to the extra deck instead of create more pendulum zones
>- Getting their own zone (So pointless they actually changed it now)
they actually changed it to nerf pendulums, they was to strong
>- Why do they summon from the extra to begin with? What does that thematically have to do with monsters that become spells?
I could go on and on with pendulums but I just hate their design.
since the first pendulums were magicians i can imagine the thing is about inmortal invokers.
>- Scales on either side of the card (If they weren't going to have differing scales, why was that necessary? Maybe aesthetic reasons so they can be placed on either side? But they could have put the scale in the middle of the card somewhere)
you have reason here, pendulums are poorly aesthetically designed (green with brown) pendulums normal monster looks better than the effect ones
i think the purpose of pendulums was just bring the lost relevance of the main deck monsters. in other side links seem more cohesive because they (sadly) come with great changes to the game like the extra deck monster zone limitation

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>Burning Abyss will never be back into the meta

>>168840218
BA has been meta for way longer than most things in this fucking game.

>>168840165
>they actually changed it to nerf pendulums, they was to strong
reaction image

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>when you drop 100 dollars on two decks for the sole purpose of pubstomping friends between rounds of mtg and the day after you submit your order links are announced and essentially deadens the game for you because you like extra deck monsters even though you don't even play this game outside of this one situation but it's OK because one of the decks was lunalights so you still have 7000_atk_crushing_thighs.dek

It's not ok

>>168827271
Beat their ass but be polite about it

>>168840653
>you still have lunalights
They're worthless in the TCG but once kaleido chick and crimson fox drops by and MAYBE bullhorn doesn't get touched by the banlist (lol) they are going to be...decent.
Zoodiacs at least gives them access to a nice turn 1 board of Panther Dancer, Dragostapelia and Drancia while also having Blue cat and Crimson Fox in the graveyard so either Panther doesn't get castel'd or some shit.

>>168840475
pepe was tier 0, they made all metalfoes with the same pendulum effect, and they nerfed the odd eyes orica

>>168839023
>more me posters
Neat

I think you would actually need to make it a divine beast, or it might just be arbitrarily unaffected by non gods.

>>168840653
The fuck is that, I'm terrible at cooking and the worst thing I ever did was forget about my fries long enough for them to turn half into coal.

How long till konami kills off Kaiju?

>>168840950
zoodiacs are tier 0 and also dragons and i dont know what the other shit youre talking about is. konami can make anything broken fi they want it to be. pendulum is a shit mechanic otherwise hence why no deck was good unless it was broken save for like... qliphorts? and magicians i guess. versus xyz and even synchro decks

>>168840881
It's not like I'm playing against meta decks here, I'm talking yugi's legendary deck level. Fusion Tag will work just fine and I can still at the very least consistently get a panther on one turn.

>>168835594
Let's say when Pendulum is introduced, there's a rule changes that said you can't SS monster with level outside of the scale you have.
In that hypothetical scenario the only "pointless" unique feature they'll have then is their ability to recur via ED. Which is more of a bonus, really.

At that point, their design should be as cohesive and purposeful as Link, by your standard.
But is it really a good design?

>>168840950
Pendulums got cucked out of 90% of their time in the spotlight by fucking fusions and rituals let alone synchros and xyz.

>>168841509
Good, fuck pendulums and their ugly cards with dumb gimmick.

>>168841734
Stay mad, fag

>>168841293
i was referring to PEPE (Performage and Performapal) and some cucked decks like zefra

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>>168841293
>pendulum is a shit mechanic otherwise hence why no deck was good unless it was broken save for like... qliphorts? and magicians
Did you forget last format tier 1 deck?

>>168841783
?
what am I supposed to be mad about lol

>>168837957
Teledad and Dino Rabbit were both like $1200+ if I recall correctly.

>>168841468
I'm going to ignore that you're making up additions like any hypothetical changes what things actually are.

It doesn't account for why pendulums go to the extra deck which has nothing thematically to do with summoning a range of monsters or monsters that can be played as spells, on top of the last thing about being able to be summoned back from the extra. IT also feels like a weird thing that you summon between the numbers that are set as scales and not from them, since it requires a level once removed in terms of thinking (If I have a scale1, I dont; summon from level 1, I summon from 2, etc.). Pendulums are just a mess.

Besides that, something can be a good design and not be good for the game, if where you're going is you think that Links will be bad for the game and therefore aren't a good design, in the same way something can be aesthetically pleasing to you but technically poorly created or whatever.

>>168842270
>It doesn't account for why pendulums go to the extra deck which has nothing thematically to do with summoning a range of monsters or monsters that can be played as spells,
nor is there any aparent mechancial purpose which is just as important as it making sense thematically. You don't look at pendulums and go "yeah, it makes sense that monster spells would go to the extra deck when sent to the graveyard from the field", nor is there any balance reason that they would have to do that in order to function.

>>168842461
you want a arrow to the extra deck?

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The org put up an article listing DSOD's card effects in the movie.

>Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon
>“Blue-Eyes White Dragon” + “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” + “Blue-Eyes White Dragon”
>(1) Once per Game, if you have “Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon” in your Extra Deck, this card can attack 3 times. At the end of the Battle Phase of the turn you used this effect, destroy this card.
>(2) When this card is in your Graveyard, “Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon” you control cannot be targeted by, and are unaffected by, your opponent’s card effects.

Fuck you Konami, why didn't you sons of bitches just print that?

What are the /dng/-approved cardfus?

>>168843903
Cloudians

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The Cubics' second and third forms could be summoned during the battle phase.

Isn't it kind of ironic how the western release of the absolute biggest nostalgiawank the game has ever seen, also coincides with the first introduction of the Link monsters that changes absolutely everything?

>>168842270
>>168842461
Let's see.
Your main complain about Pendulum is that they go to ED from field and can be resurrected from ED.
Also the fact that a complete scale can only summon monster with level in exclusive range of the scale.

The latter is there for balancing purpose.
If you can summon monster in inclusive range of the scale, that means a scale 4-4 can still summon level 4 monster.
They want you to make a visible effort to access Pendulum summoning, and using 2 of the same scale make it trivial.
Just think of it like how Link number correspond to the number of Link marker in Link monster.
And while I'm at it, the two scale number in a card is just there for aesthetic purpose most likely. Just like those dead Link marker.

The former is just a gimmick of the mechanic.
Just like how Xyz keep the material, and how Link monster have no defense.
There's no reason thematically why Xyz have material, or why Link have no defense, but that's just what they are.

>>168843795
>Continuous effect applying from the graveyard
Woah.

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>>168845114
It's not unprecedented.

>>168842270
if it worked like you want it to work synchro would have been fucked yet again this mechanic apart from being it's own thing it was made to support all extradeck mechanics from previous shows and future shows.

>>168845176
That's trigger effect though.

>>168844830
Xyz have material as a way to balance effects (I recall ack whe nthey released, they were compared to Shi En and Naturia monsters, and Konami believed their continuously usable effects was a balance issue that needed to be addressed), and Links don't have defense because they didn't want you to be able to reorient their link markers.

Also I'm not convinced the reason they don't let you summon from the number is because they didn't want you to be able to do what you said. At least with the Xyz material thing, we had precedence of something konami could have percieved as an issue. Pendulums were doing a totally new thing and while that's possible we don't really know. But I can accept that justification since it makes sense. But I don't think they believed it was tribal to set scales considering how much effort they put into making decks able to search scales out. I'm sure they were aware that pendulum decks couldn't work without a lot of tutoring.

>>168845187
>it was made to support all extradeck mechanics from previous shows
No they weren't. They only 'support' them because of the mechanic change, which would never happen without Links (unless Konami are actually insane). The two things go together, they don't support them

>>168845389
>was tribal
trivial, the fuck

>>168845187
What the fuck are you talking about. Also they supported all deck types because Arc-V was an anniversary series. There are some hypothetical things pendulums help all decks out with, but that doesn't matter when no decks want to actually play pendulums because actually pendulum summoning is not easy to do unless you A) have a lot of pendulums or B) have a lot of tutors, which might not matter if you don't have your own pendulums. And a lot of decks that got pendulums just eschew them because they don't want that ability. So hypothetically yeah it kind of helps fusions or rituals or whatever because pendulums can mitigate card advantage by floating but the reality is they did not such thing.

And main deck monsters didn't get better even though hypothetically pendulums made them viable because no deck wanted to play pendulums in order to summon them unless they were already a dedicated pendulum deck and then you just played the best options which were Apex Avian who was himself pretty much immediately replaced with Kirin since he was part of an engine that was also pendulums, meaning that pendulums were also self inclusive and not very splashable because they only worked best when played with a lot of other pendulums, again undermining any potential of "supporting" other deck types.

Synchro will be fine once they print an effect tuner that counts as a synchro monster.

>>168845187
>>168845524
Wait I might be a collasal idiot. Yeah I am, you were talking about pendulums weren't ya. Whoops

...Oh.

That's why people were laughing at me liking Synchro decks.

So if I'm reading this right, I can only have one Extra Deck monster out at a time unless I bring it back from the graveyard into a regular monster zone, and thus Synchros and their swarming tactics are now 10000% fucked (alongside Fusions and Xyzs)?

And the only thing that circumvents that are the new Link monsters?

Doesn't this fuck over every single deck reliant on the Extra Deck prior to the Link Era by default unless you can make the deck work with just one Synchro/Fusion/Xyz out at a time (which is to say very few, although stuff like Ritual summon focused decks or Bujins could get away with it)?

This just seems spiteful.

>Champion of Seattle
>Rodrigues

>>168846684
pretty much

buy new cards or die

>>168846684
In actuality most "casual" decks can get away with only one extra deck summon a turn at any level you should be playing those kinds of decks, and were going to get shat on by meta anyway. And we've already gotten 2 and 3 card quasar combos and such. The biggest impact will be on extra deck space really. That and if your deck's strategy actually was making fields of 4-5 extra deck monsters and otking or whatever which is unsalvagable.

>>168846684
not unless you link several zones to grant access to more synchros but most of the time for the time being you will be locked to 2 linked zones with the new extra monster zone occupied by a link.

>>168846684
>unless you can make the deck work with just one Synchro/Fusion/Xyz out at a time

Or you can just, you know, run the damn Links because most of the revealed ones have pretty generic requirements for a reason?

>>168846684
>>168846969
>I CAN'T SYNCHRO SPAM :(((((

Good. Maybe you can have interesting duels now.

>>168847167
>Synchro spam duels
>Not interesting
nigga you don't even understand

>>168841143
What? I hate Kaijus with a passion but even I know they're the most apparent answer to a lot of decks out there

The question is how long until another Kaiju inspired archetype shows up to sweep it under the rug so that they're not even used?

Seriously I don't care to yell "Kaijus!" Ever again

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>>168846935

>>168847167
Either way I'm just going to be playing my True Kings and wiping shitters even easier now.

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>>168846684
Extra deck spam has been out of control for a long time now. It's time for a new age. Gaze upon the face of your glorious new meta.

>>168847167
Seconded.

>>168847167
>xyz scum

>>168847360
Link monsters are still Extra deck monsters though and its only a matter of time til we get a Link spam deck

>>168847360
Links won't magically make DM any better.

>>168847167
>>168847360
duel links have his thread open for you desu

>>168845389
Let's say you have a deck that revolves around level 4 monster.
Right now, if you want to use Pendulum to summon them, you need two types of Pendulum, a high scale and a low scale.
But in the hypothetical situation where you can pendulum in inclusive range, you just need one type of Pendulum, a pendulum with scale of 4. So instead of 2 different pendulum, now you just need to open 2 pendulum. That should increase the consistency like crazy, and even more so if said Pendulum is also a level 4.

Also, the whole Pendulum ED shenanigan exist more for balancing purpose, really.
They function as Spell, but fetching monster from graveyard as monster is piss easy, and they hate any form of spell recycling.
The ED shenanigan makes it harder to retrieve Pendulum back to hand where you actually can use them as Spell.

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>>168847476
Maybe. Even they are affected by the new rules though, so it's still very regulated.

>>168847493
Yes it will.

Is it possible to make a Fairy Tail deck?

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>>168847787
Are you retarded?
There's this and also some kaiju variant with the return to hand one

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Let's make a deck!
Suggest me some cards to put in here

>>168848148
One of each kaiju, and 3 slumber.

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>>168848148
Sound the Retreat!

>>168848148
Zoodudes, Kaiju's, and hand lolis.

>>168847761
No it won't. Nothing about links magically makes DM more competitive.

I want to build a Donald Trump deck, what archtype do I use/what cards do I use?

>>168847740
Fair enough. i can buy having to summon outside of scale for that reason I guess. It doesn't look as pretty but it makes sense from a balance perspective. I get that they explicitly wanted you to pendulum summon with 2 different guys barring some gimmick.

Sorry, but I don't buy the other thing. I'm almost certain they don't go to the extra deck so they can't be recast as a continuous spell, especially since pendulum's main draw is specifically that they can keep floating the from the extra which we know was their intended use because from the beginning we had cards abusing destroying them. Besides that, they didn't need to previously compatible with anything. If they didn't want pendulums to have an effect you could easily reuse they could just not give them one. This is all assumption but I just can't buy that the thing that they meant for us to abuse was just a balance to stop us from recycling monsters to use as continuous spells, especially considering how early ones had downsides as spells to limit their use.

>>168845298
Phantom Beast Cross-Wing.

>>168848329
imperial iron wall+ begone knave

>>168847167
>Summoning 2 Extra Deck monsters in a turn is suddenly spam

Woah...I didn't know my Speedroid deck was so degenerate.

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>>168848206
>>168848274
>>168848303

>>168848148
3 malicius

>>168848557
>putting words in my mouth

Did I ever say a specific number? Who am I kidding, you're just a synchro masturbater that's playing dumb.

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>>168848569

>>168848837
Two maxx "c" and 3 pot of duality

>>168848148
Wind Witch Engine
But it gotta have the Winter/Crystal wing.
Oh, and don't forget your Fusion Parasite and Crystal Bell!

>>168848837
3 Twin Twister.

>>168848643
The point people are trying to make dipshit is that this Extra Deck change may have hit synchro spam and the like, but it hit moderate and pet decks the hardest while the current meta decks give little to no shit because they can easily circumvent the Extra or only bring out 1 monster from there in the first place, making the change twice as stupid.

The move ultimately ruined countless decks in the name of "balance" and a thinly-veiled attempt to force people to BUY LINK MONSTERS.

>>168848837
3 Ordeal of a Traveler

>>168848837
Vision Hero Vyon

Whoa had a thought, if links take off they may add more oldshit support in the form of supporting link cards like, Metalfoes Promethiumus and shit, for heavy ED reliant archetypes. That or good enough generics that are easily plopped out in those decks.

>>168848837
Relinquished and his ritual

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>>168848329
Blue eyes with chaos mexican dragon

>>168848837
1 destiny draw, 2 artifact sanctum, and 3 darkness approaches

>>168849087
I'm sure the vast majority of "pet decks" main strategy was NOT summoning a bunch of extra deck monsters in one turn. Some of them definitely like Karakuri and RDA and more. But it's not even close to a majority.

On top of that, it doesn't necessarily have to be done in response to a meta that's rife with the problem. Besides it being impossible to come up with and playtest and balance a whole new mechanic during the time one of those kinds of decks may be too powerful, it only has to mean that Konami doesn't want decks to play like that ever and if it means hitting a comparatively small amount of fun decks that DO rely on doing that but aren't broken, well, big changes are going to have collaterial no matter what. Those decks couldn't compete with whatever the meta is anyway, so that the meta will just become whatever circumvents the limit best doesn't really matter.

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>>168849503
If you've got that, might as well add some scythes and the best Artifact of all,
Aegis

>>168849503
2 more Vyon, 1 Shadow Mist, 1 Polymerization, 1 Deadlyguy. 1 Beatrice

>>168849503
Clearwing and Crystal Wing

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1 ptolemys

>>168849503
upstart goblin, and 3 mithrillium

>>168849503
3 lawnmowing

>>168831384
Actual support, more cards that do things when banished or when cards are banished

>>168849503
3x Galaxy Meme
1x Cyber Dragon Nova
1x CDI