/xivg/ - Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward General

lonely catboy lf gf/gf (male)

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Didn't bother to change the OP at all

real quality stuff

What is the best gear for showing off my miqo'te's butt and hips while not looking overly slutty?

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nth for good times

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>>168694443
4th for you're all fucking degenerate catfuckers who suck at the game, and that won't change in Stormblood.

>>168694495
>gf/gf (male)
how about a catboy (female)

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MCH AF3

>>168694539
what does that mean

>>168694495
name/server?

>>168694559
>headgear is literally the same

>>168694580
elk rearden/balmung

>>168694605
Wow. Good argument. You got me.

>>168694647
I'm not going to waste my time arguing with some dumb PLD fag on the internet. That can't into basic reading.

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>>168694532

>>168694559
>>168694590
The entire armour set is practically the same

>>168694560
what does gf/gf (male) mean...

>>168694519
>make last thread
>thread at 800 replies
>make a new thread
>this bitch complains that i didn't change it

You could've made it you fucking nigger.

>>168694719
You clearly can't into basic sentence structure, so I'd say you two are about even.

>>168694719
>PLD fag
Are you fucking dumb? I played WAR in 2.0 and was actually upset over the changes in 2.1 to a degree.
I was FORCED to play PLD in 2.0 progression due to the place WAR was in, and I wasn't too happy about that.
Fuck off with you misinfo shitposting, Heavensbaby.

>>168694632
why do newfags have to namedrop random ebins?

>>168694743
a girl or a guy playing a girl character
>>168694810
but that's me

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>>168694803
>forced to play PLD even though he's a war main
>being upset after his class got buffed

>The raimi posters were right all along

/tv/ is always right.

>>168694835
prove its you

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People actually thought it wasn't SAM

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>>168694905
how do i do that

>>168694835
>girl playing female character
oh well rip

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>>168694532
Cats are gross.
{No thanks.}

>>168694971
post your dick of course

>>168694803
>PLDCuck
>Me misinfoing

You're so full of bullshit it's hilarious, after the buffs Wars could both MT AND OT more effectively than PLD, stop trying to act like you know what the FUCK you're talking about. There's no point after those buffs where a WAR gets out dps'd by a PLD.

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>>168694971
>cute chihuahua picture

You did it!

>>168694881
>>forced to play PLD even though he's a war main
Yes because you didn't bring a WAR into T1-5 before 2.1, dumbass.

>>being upset after his class got buffed
See. I don't play the game to get a big boner over how strong my class is.
When they changed WAR in 2.1 they removed it's entire 2.0 identity, and the reason why I picked the class in the first place.
No longer was it a self-healing damage tank. It was now a PLD with Rampart stuck onto Inner Beast. I didn't want another mitigation tank.

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>>168694984
if youre a girl playing a male character that's cool too but just know im not into the fujoshi stuff

>>168695025
nah i dont want to get banned again

>>168695019
pedophiles are worse though

>>168695065
Why did I even bother replying to you.

>>168695065
>they removed it's entire 2.0 identity

You mean being an amalgamation of ideas that don't work at all in this game?

>>168695093
You're right. Lalas are for hugs, not fugs.

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>>168694927
it wasn't. it's auron.

it's fucking auron.

think about this.

tidas / yuna outfits

lulu pet

glasses emotes

auron's hair

and now the samurai's outfit is a reimagining of auron's

the new class is auron

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>>168694443
I love Yoshiko

>>168695084
i don't think playing a male character means i like yaoi

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>>168695084
>Not into that pure BL

Elk, I...

>>168695065
>i didn't want another mitigation tank
>in a game where spot mitigation is literally the only skill required for tanking

How does leveling work in this game compared to retail WoW? I'm almost level 20. With the other jobs and shit do you just grind dungeons and fate quests over and over again similar to WoW leveling 1-100?

Or should I be making sure to complete all the quests for some sort of attunement or actual story lines?

>>168695039
>after the buffs Wars could both MT AND OT more effectively than PLD
Nah. You're fucking retarded.
PLD was still the "safer" MT in most fights. What WAR had as a MT was more damage thanks to Unchained and Inner Beast allowed for more consistent mitigation for fast tank buster like Death Sentence. Tank damage was barely part of the meta at the time, though.
>There's no point after those buffs where a WAR gets out dps'd by a PLD.
You're seriously stupid and underestimating how strong both Fight or Flight and Sword Oath were back then.

>>168695119
You do know other MMOs have heal tanks, right?

>>168695234
i didnt mean to say you do, it just seems to be a pretty common theme and i wanted to put it out there

>>168695235
gaaaay

>>168695239
>>in a game where spot mitigation is literally the only skill required for tanking
WARs could have easily had less mitigation than PLD by only having the buffed Vengeance and a buffed Foresight and then they could spot heal with Inner Beast.

>>168694559
Its almost the same, but thats okay because the old one was really nice too. Hope they ditch the goggles though, or at least don't give them a permanent neon red again.

>>168695259
>Underestimating

When did I underestimate them? you just BLATANTLY stated that post buffs PLD did more damage CONSISTENTLY than WAR? whether it was meta or not your statement was full of complete dogshit. Pre-Buff WAR was unplayable.

>>168695084
can you show me ingame then

>>168695259
>You're seriously stupid and underestimating how strong both Fight or Flight and Sword Oath were back then.
Not this guy but you're being delusional or didn't play back then if you ever understood that PLD had a better offense than WAR after those buffs.

Both maths and actual situations were unforgiving toward PLD's damage.

>>168695331
Yoshida did say the final version doesn't have those colors so that's about it for changes.

>>168695252
You can do roulettes, fates, dungeons, hunting logs, levequests, supply & provisioning missions, or palace of the dead to level other classes

It isn't like retail wow because you have more than 1 efficient option, you have a whole fuckton of fast options so it doesn't feel so cornering

>>168695320
Man what if I'm NOT gay and I just like how cute it is?
That doesn't make me gay right?

>tfw resubscribed after over a year
>tfw tank with ilvl 177
How do I even start...

>>168695191
>Auron's hair
I think you should rewatch it.
https://youtu.be/Jt1h1MinlLI
Some of the other stuff I can agree on, though.

>>168695357
I do remember hearing many times that a PLD in full sword oath constantly using its most damaging attacks would straight-up outdps a WAR outside of defiance.

I think there is truth to what he is saying.

>>168695335
PLD did do more damage "consistently."
WAR had "burst" but it was absolutely garbage without 3.0 skills.

>>168695357
I did play back then. Barely anyone used WAR MT and PLD OT, so no one really gave a shit that PLD did more damage.
Everyone that bothered to actually math it out did know that was the case, however.

>>168695419
That's factually wrong though, unless the WAR was utter shit, he should not be getting outdps'd by a sword oath PLD.

>>168695378
How long does it usually take to hit level 50 while just running around doing quests for the first time?

Yo speaking of WAR dps. Does anyone know if you're supposed to have 100% uptime on Fracture or does it just make you get to your Fell Cleaves slower? I usually use it if I have to fill a gcd in before I can pop berserk

>>168695449
>Rephrasing your argument

Okay, show us this amazing math.

>>168695336
nah im not about that

>>168695401
it's gay dude

>>168695419
this, average out the potency of warriors 10 gcd cycle and compare it to the average potency per gcd of the halone combo + 50

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>>168695407
(I think you should imagine this hairstyle as main color black with off color white)

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>think RDM and SAM (Tank) don't really interest me so write them off when talking to friends
>Yoshi P goes dankest timeline SAM melee dps
>That trailer is hype

Wew lads, I might have to channel the inner weeb. It's what I wanted, and Now it's happening.

>>168695454
Either way, I want to see math that either proves or disproves whether or not PLD actually outdps'd WAR.

fastest way to get from level 47 to 50?

>>168695506
only with 5 abandon stacks and in cases like the one you mentioned

>>168695531
Give me time to do, and don't be impatient, and I will.

>>168695564
You can fucking watch vods of clears you stupid nigger.

>static disintegrates after all the weebs announce they are switching to SAM

WHILE YOU WERE HAVING DEGENERATE INTERSPECIES SEX

I STUDIED THE BLADE

>>168695419
"Hearing", yes, that's the problem with this argument.

I used to be main tank back then, meaning I had WAR, PLD and DRK leveled and maxed. At no point did PLD outdamage WAR both in maths and in any actual situation.
WAR was so strong that it was beating most DDs that weren't playing optimal, PLD never came close to this.

I don't remember the exact number but, WAR was like top damage by a huge margin after the first two rotations or so and then the sustained damage was so much higher than PLD.

They made WAR into an almost DD with this update, PLD was never in this tier.

>>168695449
It was mathed, yeah, and PLD did more damage than WAR before the update. Post update, PLD was dead in the water.

I don't even know why you guys are having this argument since the only tank that came close/outdamaged WAR was DRK. PLD was literally kicked to forever #3 when the update came out.

I don't think we played the same game, really, that or people forgot everything already.

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>>168695551
I miss him.

>>168695612
VODs of clears with PLD always in sword oath, without AoE damage inflating WAR's numbers?

>>168695532
how am I supposed to be your gf if I can't even see your dick?

>>168695708
>If it doesn't benefit my argument it can't be trusted.

There's no use talking to you.

>>168695675
>having DRK leveled on 2.0

HAX

>>168695506
You use fracture when you need to disengage from the boss, like during time stasis in 12
It's also good in berserk and when you don't have a bard. As for getting to your fell cleave stack sooner it's arguable. It's very situational and depends on how many gcds you can expect to get before the boss disappears or you need to do a mechanic that requires you to disengage. It's all really situational. Your best bet is looking at top parses for certain fights and looking at how many fractures they used, if any.

Remember, dots tick during stasis but not when the boss disappears for inception.

>>168694835
you are too much of a psychopath to be my boyfriend, but cute catboy

>>168695748
The argument is that a PLD in full sword oath can outdps a WAR without defiance against a single target.

If the PLD uses shield oath or if the WAR does AoE damage, then that clearly isn't the situation we are describing, you fucking braindead downy.

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tfw like these characters so much dont know which one to stick with

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>>168694257
>tfw a meme
Time to pack my things then.

>>168695703
who?

>>168695836
Just go eat sphagetti-o's or something. If you can't find a single vod that proves your claims it's worthless.

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erp

>>168695904
post memebutt..

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>>168695712
im not just going around showing it to random people...

>>168695815
im not a psychopath...

>>168695895
god damn thats a cute roe

>>168695895
right
i know this is a grown man post but right i don't care we need more fucking cute roes

>>168695773
Interesting maybe I'll try tanking A12 sometime then. I only dps it and I'm working on gearing my tank as an off spec so it'd be worth a shot. Maybe I'll look up some videos of WAR PoV. Thanks for the advice!

>>168695586
Thanks for your advice too it would make sense to use it at 5 for the bonus crit rate. I'm just still not entirely sure if it's that much of a gain over spamming fell cleaves I guess I could do some napkin math and figure it out at base SkS and a 3 minute parse.

>>168695895
WHO IS THAT CATBOY AND IS HE SINGLE???

>>168695942
I'd like to request that you don't reply to me again.

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>Samurai uses Striking and not Maiming

>>367819084
>>367819079
>>367819047

What the fuck is Naoki Yoshida thinking?

Samurai is LITERALLY the ONLY JOB EVER that could have used Maiming gear.

Monk was already splitting with Ninja in the early levels, now Maiming gear gets to be DRG exclusive for the entire rest of the game?

They could have used Striking gear for literally any other job. Why did it HAVE to be Samurai?

Now we have to deal with DRG's having loot monopoly on Maiming for the entire duration of this game.

>>168695895
Femroe is less cancerous than yet another fucking C@boy

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>"We'll be doing a large scale combat system rework."
>2 fanfests go by with no details
>Final fanfest
>"Instead of adding more tanks and healers to the game, we're going to focus on rebalancing them with the other major changes we're making to the combat system."
>Still no details on what those actually are

OKAY MAYBE I JUST WON'T BUY YOU SHITTY GAME YOSHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>168695926
You do not need a vod to calculate the potency of attacks.

What we need is math that proves that PLD can or cannot outdps a WAR.

>2.4 ish when yugiri is introduced she mentions that doma was razed to the ground by garleans and forced domans to leave to find a new home
>4.0 and doma still standing

Did yugiri lie to us? Was it a bad translation? Or did yoshida had a change of heart and decided to asspull doma for content?

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Dead? Wrong, this midlander is sleeping!

I hope the costume contest and stuff is amusing and that people recap it later / there's youtube stuff. I like that sort of thing. It's neat.

Have a good day everyone.

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Are we posting images?

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>>168696019
lily lu

>>168696052
Maybe the place got pretty badly sacked, but could ultimately be rebuilt.

Maybe the city proper is gone, but the region remains.

>>168696019
You can leave anytime, Kummers

>>168696027
So what you're telling me is that you can't find a vod?

Just a reminder, both are DPS strictly for right side/mainstat. We now have three Slaying, Fending, Healing, Aiming, and Casting.

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>>168696093
imagine how much better /xivg/ would be if all cats were replaced with lily

>>168695945
I would sit in this catboys lap if I could fanta back to female

>>168696052
it might just be the city of doma, the rest of the continent is fine

Chihuahuas are ugly dogs.

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>>168696019

>>168695997
>cutelander hates me

sry...

>>168696165
Lily should fucking die

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>>168696019
>>168696093
>>168696165
stop posting lily lu i copyrighted it thanks

>>168696175
damn...

>>168696189
some are but others are super cute (like lily lu)

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>>168696189

>>168696142
>three Casting
>implying RDM is casting and not Dexterity

nice meme

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>>168696118
>>168696180
They did add a nuked area. Actually wonder what did that.

>>168696189
they're bad

>>168696279
Piercing debuff.

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>>168696120
that wasn't me

>>168696165
i'd like it here a lot more that's for sure

>>168696243
can you post your lily lu folder for downloading

>>168695997
Based. If my arms were long enough each Excalibur I'd /pet you.

>>168696243
but she's obese and her nails aren't even trimmed properly.

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>>168696317
no because then everyones just going to post my rares and devalue them

>>168696348
shes cute though

>>168696128
Why are you putting the burden of proof on the PLDs being able to outdps WAR?

How about you prove that a PLD with 100% sword oath uptime CAN'T outdps a WAR that never uses defiance against a single target?

This isn't a matter of how practical it was for PLD to focus on DPS on 2.x, it is matter of what would result in more damage if these conditions occurred in a vacuum.

>cute boys
>they never like full-herms
It's a hard life if you know what I mean

>>168696363
the fuck is that

Thanks to the announcement, I'm going to finally hit 60 for the first time to prepare. I have ninja at 53 and monk at 56. What do I do? Monk probably, right?

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>>168696337
Y-you too, anon...

>>168696279
They explicitly stated it's a ranged caster DPS.

>>168696443
monk so you can reuse the same gear for samurai

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>>168696363
just give them to me then i'll keep them safe
i respect lily like you do

>>168696434
it's me

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>>168696279
if red mage is dex im gonna make hiroshima look like a chuck e cheese birthday party

>>168696434
a chihuahua (photoshopped)

>>168696528
how can i trust you

i want 3.0 babies to stop shitposting about 2.0 balance

How rare are female elezen tanks nowadays? I just returned to the game, and two DF groups in a row have just been falling all over themselves about it.

>>168696650
it is more likely to see an unicorn irl

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>>168696571
you just have to
believe in me

>>168696650
i see them every now and again on gilg

>1 ilm = 1 adult hyuran thumb
>1 fulm = 12 ilms = 1 adult hyuran foot
>1 yalm = 3 fulms = size of a adult lalafellin male
>leg size is usually 50% of the body for anatomically proportional bodies.
>half a yalm = 1.5 fulms = 6 ilms

That pic with the floppy lala dick from yesterday is 6~7 inches (17-18cm)
Thank you encyclopedia erozea.

>tfw will be a catboy samurai with fedora
i love yoshi now

>>168694519
what is shiro tagachi doing here

>>168696650
not a whole lot of elezen, and not a (relatively) whole lot of tanks, so ye that's pretty rare

>>168696793
I've heard the garleans use some nonsensical system where the units change every 100.

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still looking for gf or grownman bf pst

>>168696726
theyre too precious to give out on a whim

>>168696793
cringe

>>168696898
you said you don't like catboys (male)...

>>168696898
>le cringe XD Kappa
The real "cringe" here is you.

>>168696898
>cringes at math
>posts catboi with LF relationship

You're the real cringe here.

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>>168696942
i dont

>>168696957
>>168697002
4Head

Yoshida has TWO options

1.) Release the Shogun tank job that he hinted at months ago in 5.0. It's a tank job that uses Maiming gear

2.) Release the gunblade job that's speculated to arrive in the Garlean expansion. The gunblade job could either be a ranged/melee DPS hybrid like Red Mage, except use Maiming gear. --OR-- it could be a tanking job that uses Maiming gear.


These are the ONLY TWO futures I see to stop the Dragoon loot monopoly

AND SINCE I don't see anybody CLAMOURING for a shogun job, I think the Gunblade job using Maiming is the most possible scenario.

He hasn't screwed the pooch with Maiming gear yet. There's STILL a way out.

>tfw fighting guerilla warfare against the Garleans on two fronts halfway across the world from one-another

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>>168696793
>tfw your au ra (male) has a fulm-long dick

>>168696389
>Deflecting this hard

You made the statement, you provide the proof.

>>168697173
I never made the statement.

My first statement is that the math to prove either argument should be provided.

>>168697219
Then why the fuck are you trying to defend it you nigger.

Of course the math is going to possible, if a WAR does ass damage he will be out dps, but saying at the top level there are PLDs that out DPS top WAR's while oting is fucking retarded.

All you have to do is look at the skills to see this.

>>168697042
this post reeks of weaboo pugilist autism

>>168696285
three guesses.

hint: it probably rhymes with "farlemald"

>>168697350
???

>Ala Mhigo is well know for it's beast tamers, who capture and break in griffons and other monsters to use as mounts
>Ala Mhigo has an order of battle-dancers somewhere in it's hierarchy
But instead they used the Ala Mhigo expansion to introduce another Sharlayan mage and a weebshit *unsheaths katana*

This is pretty much the death knell for Beastmaster and Dancer, if they didn't add them now, they probably never will.

>>168697367
I know it was the garland empire, what i'm wondering is what actually made such huge craters.

It's way too far from the dalamud impact so it wasn't that, agrius could be a possibility but it sunk 15 years before the domans arrived at eorzea to run away from the war. And the new garlean battleship to replace agrius (forgot the name) had the 1st flight on azyzlla and the sea of clouds so it can't be it either.

WAR:
(SE) 150-190-270
(BB) 150-200-280 x2
(Fra) 300
2170 potency over 10 GCDs = 217 avg potency

PLD:
(ROH) 150-200-260
Sword oath adds 50 potency per ~2.2s (rounded to per GCD for simplicity)
760 potency over 3 GCDs = 253 avg potency

Storm's eye is a moot point because it benefits both jobs, and if anything it benefits PLD more because it doesn't affect the fracture DOT.

>>168697429
>wanting any of those shit jobs instead of samurai and rdm

keep your slutty outfit and bestiality fetishes for yourself

>>168697339
Meanwhile many people have argued that the boost to auto-attacks in sword oath increased damage to such an extent that PLD did actually outdps WAR.

This idea is something that often came up back in 2.x and still does to this day when people discuss the subject.

>>168697531
probably something to do with nigiri's whole "we rallied one last time to fight them off, and they shitstomped us, so we fled" thing.

>>168697538
>Doesn't affect the fracture DoT

Why not? Isn't it slashing?

>>168697627
Physical DOTs don't have a damage type, only the initial hit does.

>>168697660
Interesting okay I gotta scrap part of my math then. Thanks

>>168697538
MAIM.

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can ne1 help a new player do arf

>>168697846
no sorry i like to play with mentally stable players

>>168697846
Buy me a ps4 and maybe

>>168697538
Not him but for a proper comparison you have to calculate the dps for a full rotation for at least a min.
For example berserk increases dps by 50% and stays up for 40 seconds while FoF increases dps for 30% for 30 seconds.

>>168697831
Sure, I forgot that. WAR's 217 avg potency becomes 238, still 15 behind PLD's.

And FoF is still the better cooldown with 30% damage with a 30% uptime compared to the WAR's 50% attack power with a 22% uptime.

>>168697935
This is some weak ass bait.

>>168697846
sure, send me a tell
Ciele Oshin

>>168697935
>For example berserk increases dps by 50% and stays up for 40 seconds
You're so far from wrong it's not even funny.
Berserk increases Attack Power and it does not translate to exactly to 50%, it lasts for 20 seconds, and it has 5 seconds of pacification.

anyone wanna spam potd 1-10 on balmung for a bit

pw 4242, will wait 5 mins

Can someone post what the ffx gear from the fanfest looks like?

>>168697986
Wrong. Maim is a 20%. And it absolutely is not, Berserk shits on FoF. Do the math you faggot.

>>168698019
it's yuna's and tidus set, what do you want to see

>>168698012
why would you even post this? they hate each other.

>>168698048
>Berserk shits on FoF
No. It doesn't. Berserk is very obviously worse than FoF.
Don't forget that Pacification exists and no one cleansed Pacification back in 2.X.

>>168697986
Forgot to mention that you're losing two GCDs every 90s thanks to Berserk, which actually lowers the avg potency to 232.

>>168698048
Maim was 10% back in 2.1 bud. Enough with the history revision.

>>168698114
>beepy
>hating sugi

I love you Daniel. Goodbye.

>>168698048
Berserk would not be better than Fight or Flight EVEN IF it did not pacify.

>>168698013
>>168697986
My bad on the timers, garland tools is kind of confusing about it and i'm not online atm.
But anyways they have the same cooldown and have different damage multipliers so just go ahead and do the math properly.

>>168697538
It absolutely does, in the same way that maim shits on sword oath.

>No one cleansed pacification

You're trolling.

>>168698170
Except we're talking about AFTER 2.1 you stupid faggot.

>>168698245
>You're trolling.
You replied to the wrong post, but I'm going to assume you meant to talk to me.
No. No one cleansed Pacification in 2.X. People barely did it in 3.0.
Pacification cleansing only become common with the buff to Warden's Paeon.

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>thinking of switching to SMN from WAR
>No new tanks in stormblood

Tanks might be in need why is choosing a job so hard

>>168698237
Berserk has a 2 gcd pacify penalty which hurts them more than the higher percentage helps

>>168698245
>You're trolling.
Nah, he isn't. If you had a healer cleansing your pacification you were a supreme retard and your group sucked shit because a healer can put out more damage in that time than you with the half a gcd you get back.

>>168698335
>Pacification cleansing only become common with the buff to Warden's Paeon.
>almost every war faggot has a PACIFICATION IN 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 ESUNA/LEECHES macro

Yea... no. I played healer the whole 2.0-3.5 and some wars even fucking demanded that shit to be cleansed asap.

>warrior will still be a guranteed static spot
>astrologian will still be a guaranteed static spot
>2 new dps fighting for a static spot

4.0 will be awful

>>168698469
See
>>168698389
>If you had a healer cleansing your pacification you were a supreme retard and your group sucked shit because a healer can put out more damage in that time than you with the half a gcd you get back.

>>168698469
What exactly do you think this post proves?

>>168698389
>Keep moving the goal post.

The statement was PLD was 100% better as an off-tank than WAR post WAR buffs. Stop making the argument about other.

>>168698484
>Can't cleanse without losing dps

Sounds like your healers shit.

>Healers doing more damage than OT WAR

Sounds like your WAR was shit too.

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The more I think about it, the more I realize striking is a mistake for Dragoon

When I say the name "STRIKING" what immediately comes to your mind? Someone getting punched or kicked I would assume? when someone says STRIKE you aren't thinking slash them down, right?

Now, if I said the word MAIMING, what's in your mind? Yeah, you just got slashed in your fucking chest. That's what Maiming is. You just got torn a new asshole.

Why is Samurai Striking
WHY
WHAT WILL THEY DO WITH MAIMING GEAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>168698558
>The statement was PLD was 100% better as an off-tank
As the person who made the original statement, no.
It was "PLD does more damage as an OT"

The rest of your post pretty much shows you to be a complete idiot.

>>168698469
>using the mannerisms of shitters to back your argument
so might as well count maim out because half of them didnt bother using it
might as well count a 20% damage penalty from defiance too because they wouldnt turn it off

>>168698558
>>Can't cleanse without losing dps
>
>Sounds like your healers shit.
>cast of esuna to get you back the ass end of one gcd, losing the healer a whole gcd
vs
>cast of foe boosted stone 2
lol

>>168698558
No not more *DPS* than a WAR but a DPS loss overall if they cleanse.

That GCD you spent cleansing would absolutely be better spent on a broil, stone III or malefic II. You just have to look at the potencies to understand that.

>>168698604
because it doesn't wear armors so it cannot share gear with dragoon stupid autistic boy

>>168698558
>The statement was PLD was 100% better as an off-tank than WAR post WAR buffs.

No, it was a PLD in sword oath did more single target damage than a WAR outside of defiance.

Are you dense, mate?

>>168698604
What are you talking about? I'm pretty sure Dragoon is still going to use Maiming gear.

>>168698662
>broil, stone III or malefic II
I didn't know we were time traveling here. You just discredtied your entire argument. Just stop lol.

>>168698606
>Dodging and rephrasing again.

No point.

>>168698662
We are talking about 2.x here.

Your point probably still stands otherwise, but those spells didn't exist yet.

>>168698725
See: >>168694297
>PLD did more damage as an OT than a WAR back in 2.X.

Horrible bait, by the way.

>>168698615
>my argument
My argument is that cleaning pacification was always a thing before bards ever got that change and some healers actually did it religiously.
How many war macros do you see with warden's with it these days?

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>>168698667
DOESNT STOP THE NPC SAMURAIS FROM WEARING HEAVY ARMOR

Maiming gear BETTER have a competeitor in 5.0. Don't care if it's the Gunblade Job that Cid Garland s using, or if it's the Shogun job that's the bossfight of Stormblood.

Dragoon will have loot competition. It is in its future.

>>168698776
Your argument is invalidated by the fact that your math was incorrect either way.

>>168698725
Are you just baiting?

Are you just trying to frustrate and annoy people who thought they were sincerely arguing with someone?

>>168698776
>I can't prove him wrong with facts and math so I'll call it bait.
As expected.

>>168698842
That wasn't my math.

168698852
0/10

Give me a collar

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What hair should I go for?

>>168698874
>Stops directly quoting the posts because he's so assblasted that he refuses to make the text (You) appear in his post to a single person on the message board.
Seriously just stop before you dig yourself in deeper than you already are.

>>168698915
New skin is what you need

>>168698906
Sub/dom is the most boring vanilla shit

Oh god, I appreciate game discussion, but just reading this argument is giving me a headache.

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>>168698906
pst

The cosplay is pretty good this year

>>168698845
>Posts incorrect math with 2.1 maim buff
>Still making the same usual dumbass argument.

There's nothing to argue here.

WHAT SERVER DO I PICK
THANK YOU

>>168699008
Lethe is SOOOO lucky...

>>168699023
I did not make the maim post, you bloody pest.

>>168698963
>New skin is what you need
Wow, rude.

>>168699023
I was the person who made the original argument.
I started working out the math, but didn't really feel like doing a 90 second rotation math.
I also don't remember the exact amount of damage Berserk added back in 2.X (and it varied depending on how far along we were into 2.X).
It's way too much work for a stupid argument in this stupid general.

>>168699008
I really only seem to like the leather chokers or the valentine one desu

>butchers combo 630 potency
>+20% maim
>+20% eye
>+50% berserk
>1360 potency

>rage combo 610 potency
>+30% fight
>+150 oath
>943 potency

thats not even giving warrior credit for the huge 300 potency fracture or infuriated inner beast

>that thordan

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>>168699102
great post

>>168699162
Then don't bother trying to defend your argument then you idiot, if you felt like it wasn't worth the effort you should have stopped responding 20 posts ago.

Fucking git.

>>168699181
>50% Berserk
>20% Eye
>Eye only on WAR
>infuriated inner beast
>OT
You're even worse.

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Anyway, here's what differentiates a SAMURAI from a MONK and why you would switch you would alt a Samurai over a Monk

1.) Charge times for attack.. At least the Draw Slash seems to have a charge time. This means Samurai is the FIRST MELEE JOB to have cast times. Expect heavy hitting attacks, this also means critical hit rate might be King. I'm unsure if skill speed or spell speed will reduce these cast times.

Charge times on a melee job automatically means it's uinviable in PVP

>be in PvP
>Samurai charging draw slash
>"yeah let me think about that"

you'll probably want to stick to Monk in PVP

Secoind point:
2.) Very little burst damage potential - This is something i've noticed. I didn't see a whole lot of burst damage in the trailer. It seemed to focus on slow, but heavy hitting attacks. This would put it in line with Monk, which also doesn't have a whole lot of burst damage. So if for some reason a Monk wants to be slower, switching to SAM might be worth

3.) SAM doesn't seem to have Greased Lightning bullshit. Their mechanic is said to be absorbing energy in their blade and "spending" it for super attacks. This will end up like Machinist's ammo debuff and not be something that has a time limit. So if you're worrying about dropping Greased Lightning, you might want to switch to SAM

Playing MNK and SAM gonna be comfy af. Well, not at launch, since AF3 is job restricted. But patch 4.2 to patch 4.5 onward will be maximum comfy for existing monks

>>168699117
Then I'm not talking to you, you stupid bit.

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>>168699179
Leather is craftable...

>>168699231
>if you felt like it wasn't worth the effort
I mean, I thought it would be originally. How was I suppose to know someone would ask me to do a giant amount of rotation math for something this stupid.
The argument started with people saying the WAR was "overpowered" in 2.X which is wholly incorrect regardless of their DPS.
My mistake for trying to argue with people in this general about game mechanics.

>>168699181
If you read earlier the Berserk CD isn't a 50% direct increase it's 50% extra attack power. It's a bit different.
Also >20% Eye
PLEASE

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/vg/ Help what should I fanta my cute dragon into. I cant deal with the horns messing with hairstyles and collars anymore

Which server do i pick on EU, I've heard Ragnarok is the best in terms of active endgame, is that true?

>>168699353
oh I know, I just like how it looks

>>168699353
>Makes long post about how amazing of a raider you were
>How OG and how much you know about the game
>Call people heavensbabies that never raided
>Fuck up basic math
>Doesn't even do a proper parse to defend argument.
>"J-JUST A SILLY ARGUMENT"

Overpowered or not your statement was incorrect and had little to no practical evidence to back it up. You then proceeded to argue like you were king big dick that were 100% right.

If you hadn't acted so autistic I wouldn't have cared.

But not only did you fuck up the math, you then stated it was too much effort to do a proper parse.

If you felt that way you should have stopped responding ages ago.

>>168699560
Cerebus is best

>>168699560
You can easily get groups on most EU servers.
Allmost all are heavy populated

>>168699592
>not your statement was incorrect
Except it's not. At this point I don't care to prove that to you.

>If you felt that way you should have stopped responding ages ago.
You know, you called me autistic, but you don't seem to understand that the point where I had to prove anything with math came a long time after the original argument had started.

Also
>>Fuck up basic math
I didn't post any kind of math in this thread. That was someone else.

>>168699605
Any reason that Cerebus is best? What i define as best would be lot of active players with good opportunity for FC's and pugs.

>>168699742
Ragnarok, Shiva, Odin and Cerberus are the most populated

>all this shitty argument could be solved by going to a lv 50 sync'd trial and dps that shit for a few minutes with a slight adjustement to PLD autoattacks

>>168699742
I mean cerebus is the most filled of the EU servers. I havent had any trouble with finding groups for anything

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>tfw you play both sides of the argument with posts ranging from near correct math to utter retardation
>tfw watching two spergs go at eachothers throats, accusing eachother of making the posts i made and spending the better part of the past two hours arguing

Is there such a thing as an EU RP server?

this kitty needs a collar

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>>168699946
>>168699008

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>>168699946
pst

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Post timestops

>>168699697
>I don't care to prove that to you

You can't prove it. Either way I'm done with this conversation. No point.

>>168699994
you have a collar

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>>168700049
it's a valentines choker and is that a problem

it's purely aesthetic, I can craft just fine with it on

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>5'9 vs 6'0

>>168699926
Seen it often on Shiva

>>168700130
>taking a collar from somebody who already has a collar
yes, it is

>>168700134
>PLD vs DRK

>>168699502
I WANT TO PLOW THIS DRAGON

>>168697429
Dancer would be more likely to originate from Thavnair, and I could see Beastmaster coming from Mercydia or the New World.

>>168699502
Well, first you should bump up the tits so people won't have to look at her face or horns.

>>168700174
>the palacuck was the only one that sat on the wrong side

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>>168700170
doesn't that just gives me extra expertise

lf bf

>>168699994
>>168700007
>>168700130
Do you give collars to alts

What kind of a climate does Ala Mhigo have? Desert?

>watch trailer
HA BLUFAGS BTFO
>watch sam animations
>it's a dps
HA SAMTANKFAGS BTFO

>>168700250
Tfw no femnons play this game.

Feelsbad, good luck dude

Does anyone have pictures from the cosplay contest

>>168700294
a collar is a commitment, i dont want some flaky whore thats just gonna disappear at a moments notice

main or bust

>>168697564
It actually did. I was there. Until about 2.4, then determination's lower scaling tipped it to the WAR side.

>>168700331
As a tank main, I'm fine with this. RIP DPS, queues will be fucking worse than pre-3.5 PvP.

>>168700361
No thanks, sorry

WAIT A MINUTE YOU FUCKERS

THIS IS HUGE. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLCQZxxInr8&t=25s [Embed]

AT THE 25 SECOND MARK, THE SCREEN GOES BLACK FOR AN ATTACK. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS FUCKING MEANS RIGHT /VG/

THE ULTIMATE ATTACKS FROM 1.0 ARE FUCKING BACK

YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS MONK BROTHERS?

SIMIAN THRASH IS COMING BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z8lHu1a5Dg [Embed]

ITS TIME BROTHERS

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>>168700294
sure why not

I can even put one on market if you want

>>168700386
Just pray that sam and rdm has actual AOEs or doing large pulls will be fucking annoying.

>>168700331
>BLUfags actually thought it'd be announced ever

Job is dead. DEAD.

>>168700473
>inb4 it's the healer
imagine the salt, i'm getting hard already

>>168700461
What's your name again? I thought I saw you a few moments ago

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>>168700216
I-is this a cute elf to fanta

>>168700508
>BLU is announced as a healer

I JUST GOT OFF OF HEALER AS MY MAIN PLEASE I DON'T WANNA GO BACK

>>168700461
MAID OUTFIT ON MOGSTATION WEHN!?

>>168700543
No. Jesus. What are you doing.

>>168700508
>BLU as a melee healer with limited healing spells and more in the way of defensive support
cumming

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>2 new DPS jobs
>Tanks and healers will be jumping ship to play these new jobs

Enjoy those queue times faggots. Hope you like the Palace of the dead nerf as well since they nerfed the old Dzemael Darkhold specifically so people would do the new content in Heavensward. Back to fate grinding those DPS jobs because you'll never get into a dungeon.

Who knows, Maybe a Paladin rework will bring a few Dark Knight players back over to Paladin. I'm going to be surprised if in the first year of the new expansion people aren't bored as fuck and quitting starting with the tank and healer players since they have nothing new except 10 more levels and reworked abilities to make the jobs easier. Unless they pull some crazy shit to make tanking and healing fun long term this game is already dead.

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>>168700508
>>168700331
>Was BLUfag theorycrafted with friends about lancet being used to proc primal abilities
>If no BLU at least get to play SAM tank for fast queues

S-Shut up!

>>168700543
>fantaing into a pole proportioned dendrophile
ye don' want ta be a filthy knife ear do ye?

>>168700543
No

>>168700508
>>168700594
>>168700615
From what yoshida mentioned we shouldn't be getting more tanks or healers ever.

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>>168700540
Shana Tsunderie

>>168700595
who knows

>>168699072
HELP

>>168700702
Primal, come to malboro.

>>168700702
LEVIATHAN

>>168700683
i took it as it's going to take a while to make somethign different enough that works and that people would take on a party

>>168700460
Simian trash was not an ultimate attack. It was a garbage filler move you used when none of your buffs were up, because all of your buffs would only have affected the first hit anyway.

>>168700250
hmu

>>168700702
depends on which kind of 4channers you want to be around
eu - odin
/b/ - leviathan
/a/ - cactuar
/v/ - ultros
/d/ - behemoth
/sft/ - balmung
reddit - gilgamesh

>>168700683
Actually that's probably a good idea. I'd like to see them focus more on existing class balance and make them more unique instead of adding more of the same flavour jobs.

>>168700629
Stay in denial tank retard

>>168700859
who

>>168700870
Shiva also has a vg community

>>168700870
>pretending he's been on all of those servers
Yea how about you fuck off?

>>168700952
catboy

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What about this femroe ~

>>168700870
and Moogle?

>>168700629
>being this mad

How does it feel.

What is a qt blm wearable slutty top?

>>168700971
ive been on all of them besides behemoth you caught me

>>168700986
who

>>168701012
if youre french

>>168700848
it's been a while

what was monk's ultimate attack if not hundred fists?

>>168701012
HON HON HON SALUT TOUT LE MONDE

>>168700995
Anon I think you need professional help.

>all these ads on a paid stream

Lol

>>168700870
What about Excalibur?

>>168700870
>/v/ ultros
>/b/ leviathan
needs to get swapped

>Leveling my lewd alt just to wear a collar
I have no regrets

>>168701303
ABDL

>>168701319
have you spent any time in the leviathan fc

>play dark brown Keeper who was found as a baby, adopted and raised by Hyuran couple from Ala Mhigo
>unironically called "ala mhigger" in RP
I don't even know how to react.

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>>168700017
Unfortunately I still cared
Here you go, everyone who thinks I'm wrong

The higher number would go even higher if I didn't give PLD less SwO procs and I have WAR 9 GCDs in Berserk instead of 8.

>>168701061
go to balmung flame hq with the busy icon

>>168701443
too late im going out

>>168701178
I tried my best but there are no cute Roe options kill me

>>168701536
Join the MoonC@s

>>168701375
Ah, the "catgirl raied by hyur parents" meme.

Let me guess, that decsion stemmed entirely from the fact that you chose a plain jane name like Evelyn Night or some shit and now have ot justify it in RP? You deserve, you fucking mhigger.

>>168700870
>>168700761
>>168701319
SO ACCORDING TO THIS SITE'S ACTIVE PLAYER LIST https://ffxivcensus.com/ , THESE POSTS AND THIS VID https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKZIf3l6I2k I'LL GO TO LEVIATHAN

FUCK GILGAMESH AND REDDITORS
I AIN'T NO GAY NIGGA SO NO BALMUNG
THANK YOU

>>168700906

>denial

Just among the people i know 4 of the tank mains are planning to play Samurai and Red Mage because they're bored. The game was losing so many players they had to do the whole return home event to let people come back to the game for free for a few days. And that's from an expansion that brought 2 new DPS jobs, a tank job and a healer job. You know what we see most? Dark Knights and Astrologian because those were the newest freshest jobs.

If the game got boring with 2 DPS classes a tank and a healer imagine a 2 DPS expansion. It's dead man.

>>168701068
I think it WAS hundred fists. but you couldn't buff hundred fists.

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Morning lads! Did you like the recent news we got? Excited for that new housing district looks really pretty.

>>168701574
>plain jane name
Not really. It's not a lore-appropriate Miqo'te name, but it's not something you'd see in every English-speaking country either.
Also she's vaguely racist/assumes offensive stereotypes about other c@s

>>168701658
The statistics arent on your side, and id sooner trust yoshi than a loser in denial who cant even operate a pf.

Stay mad loser

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Last try at a cute before I try a c@

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>>168701879
She's nice but I wouldn't say she's that cute...

c@ time

>>168701750
Whatever you say, porch pussy.

>>168701707

You and me both know we're not getting hundred fists this expansion

>>168701879
Honestly not bad. Get rid of the shit heart tattoo, change the hair, and we're talking

>>168702005
Very sexy

>>168702005
But C@ dont have the hairstyles I want ;w ;