Dueling Network General - /dng/

>>168593403
Punishment Dragon

>>168593414
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE NEW RULES AND MECHANICS
KONAMI WHY
THIS GAME SUCKS NOW FUCK

>>168593414
>ruined
More like saved.

This is your chance /dng/.

Post your once meme build that will now be tier 1.

MTG is still worse than yugioh.
That said, I hope this kill yugioh for good.
I highly suggest you give Vanguard a try, though Bushiroad was worse than konami until today.

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>new summoning method that uses the extra deck

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Apologize

>>168593865
neck yourself, Mariomon.

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New Jain

THE

GAME

LITERALLY

JUST

GOT

REBOOTED

>>168593414
>YGOPro is an automated simulator.
more like outdated simulator amirite lads

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>Current deck will be useless without Link card

>tfw still have my nekroz stuff

Hahaha! Its my time again!

>>168593859
It's standard Nekroz but half the extra deck is Link Monsters and the other half is the Rank 4 toolbox.

My other pet deck is Domain Monarchs.

>>168593907
Why do we need edgysworn

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Punishment Dragoon/Punishment Dragon
Level 8 DARK Dragon-Type Special Summon Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 2600
Cannot be Normal Summoned. Must be Special Summoned from your hand while you have 4 or more different banished “Lightsworn” monsters, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways.
(1): Once per turn, during either player’s turn: You can pay 1000 LP; return all face-up banished cards and all cards in the Graveyard to their owner’s Decks, except “Lightsworn” monsters.
(2): Once per turn, if your “Lightsworn” monster’s effect is activated: Send the top 4 cards of your Deck to your Graveyard.

>>168593859
Monarch Zarc Sacred Beasts

>>168593987
Chaos engine.
May as well, since ED monsters are unreliable now.

At least we don't need to use mana to play YGO... yet.

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>standard Zood combo to summon 2 Rat and Kong
>Rat+Lyca into Radiant
>Rat into Tigress, attach something to Kong
>Tigress into Drancia
Well, no Emeral, but I guess it kinda works.

>>168593957
They've really found a way to get people to buy their new shit.

Are your decks fucked for this upcoming meta?

>>168593907
Twilightlord General Jain/Jain, Twilightsworn General
Level 4 DARK Warrior-Type Effect Monster
ATK 1800
DEF 1200
(1): Once per turn: You can banish 1 “Lightsworn” monster from your hand or Graveyard and target 1 face-up monster on the field; it loses ATK and DEF equal to the banished monster’s Level x 300 until the end of the turn.
(2): Once per turn, if another of your “Lightsworn” monster’s effect activates: Send the top 2 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard.

I noticed that link monsters might have link arrows pointing forward (to your opponent).

If you place it in a ED slot, are you giving your opponent an ED slot also?

>opponent attacks me directly with Victory Dragon, reducing my life points to 0
>Activates it's effect
>Chain Mystical Refpanel
haha gg no re fuckin IDIOT

>>168594014
>Special Summon Effect Monster
Wew boy

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I fucking told you, Yugipoos.

It's okay.

Just admit that you were wrong and switch to Magic now. All will be forgiven. It's never too late to switch to the superior card game.

>He literally STILL has not switched to Magic

Is it just me or are all the new cards revealed so far... really fucking weak?

>>168594014

>He said something suspicious about the Virus: "Just dont be shocked when eventually, there is a deck that summons a looot of Dark monsters with huuge defense, to use this card successfully and repeatedly to pick apart other strategies". Could this hint at a new archtype?

Tewart knew.

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Wait did they completely change how extra deck monsters work?
Am I reading this right?

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Don't want to spend more 400 shekels in this shit game anymore i even want to sell all my cards because all my decks are worthless now.

You guys should try Online Card Games they are generous and you win cards just by playing.

I'm playing Shadowverse atm.

>>168594014
TRA
>>168594095
SH

>>168594125
Yeah.

>>168594157
Yeah, now you need Link monster otherwise you stuck with only 1 ED monster, unless you use Senet shenanigan.

>>168594125
It's the first set of a new summoning type. If DUEA was anything to go by, the new type will be meh, but there will be some decent archetypes that come out of it.

Expect the good stuff in the next pack, when Link summoning really takes off.

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>>168594229
>otherwise you stuck with only 1 ED monster
Holy shit

>>168594204
What are you saying? Lightsworn will be meta now.

>>168594173
does Shadowverse have Dinosaurs?

Castle Link
Field Spell Card
(1): Once per turn, during your Main Phase: You can target 1 Link Monster you control; move it to a Main Monster Zone on your side of the field that it is linked to.
(2): Once per turn, during your Main Phase: Switch the placements of 2 Link Monsters in your Main Monster Zones, or 2 Link Monsters in your opponent’s Main Monster Zones.

>this kills the ygo

>>168594014
>return all face-up banished cards and all cards in the Graveyard to their owner’s Decks, except “Lightsworn” monsters.
There must be some sort of loop with this shit.

lawnmowing lightsworn will be king in this garbage link format

screen this

Senet Switch errata when?

>>168594304
S E N E T
W
I
T
C
H

Isn't old Lightsworn a deck that doesn't rely on its Extra Deck?

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>That moment when Dark Magician becomes a viable Tier 1 deck overnight.

FUCKING NICE

>Senet-tier shit
Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.

>>168594332
You mean Dracos, an already great deck that isn't hurt at all by the change.

>>168594304
>Senet Switch Field version ft. disruption
I don't know about you guys, but this is a 3-of along with 3 Terra and 3 Revolving.

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>>168594014
>>168594321
>>168594332
>it can recycle banished spells/traps used for snow white
>every single turn
>because they double your lightsworn mills you'll be sending them right back in there anyway
I want this deck to die.
Why won't they let it die.
Why do they give it a retrained maindeck boss right after the ED gets neutered.
It's not.
Fair.

Holy shit so they just killed off a shit ton of shit right? Like this just made a ton of decks completely worthless

What the fuck Konami

- The new rules makes cards like Dark Magician much stronger going forward.
- Product going forward is strictly named Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (removing the name rebranding each year)
- The new mechanic will not be anything to write home about to start with much like with Duelist Alliance and Generation Force not making Xyz or Pendulum Summoning a big deal to start with
- The new mechanic will get ramped up by July or so
- Decode Talker is a Cybers-Type Monster and is related to "Link Summon"
- The arrival of Link Summon will gut (or is intended to gut) Zoodiac, and make Ultimate Conductor Tyranno (not Megalosmasher X and its ilk) the new metagame from April 2017 or so onwards
- Xyz and Synchro Centric Decks basically die in the face of Link Summon, while Ultimate Conductor Tyranno and the like are important going forward
- The New Lightsworn are super cool.
- Decode Talker is not Yusaku's full ace card, however it's really strong and essentially a vital card for Link Summon. It's a 2300 or so ATK ace like Junk Warrior. The 2500 ATK ace is elsewhere.

Why do they keep pushing sworns.

Why.

>>168594332
>mill 18 sworns, 1 snow, and eclipse wyvern
>banish shit
>PD

>>168594125
Yeah, but every other archetype got nerfed into the ground, that evens things out. Welcome to ygo reboot.

>there is no way they can actually kill HEROs

Well, I was wrong.

Probably going to play Magic senpai

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You have ten seconds to name one card that has gone from tier one to tier shit as fast as Tzolkin is about to.

>>168594497
Realistically Decode sits around 2800 at any one time.

If Yusaku isn't a moron with it at least.

>>168594462
>>168593203

>>168594392
Yup, it can even keep using the extra for an eventual Minerva or Michael.

Any other decks from that period that benefit from the ED limit?

>>168594565
ATREEEEEYUUUUUUUUUUU

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>>168594276
We have Dragons/Dinosaur which is a pretty cool ramp deck also is t1
The game is pretty balanced give a try if you want is possible to make tons of decks day 1.

read about re roll and HF

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Forget magic friends. Become the chuuni. Getto, critical trigger.

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Skull Servants tier 1?

>>168594565
Bahamut Shark.

>>168594394
Not only Dark Magician, but a ton of other decks that were never reliant on the extra deck and were considered Tier 2/3.

This is basically Konami admitting that that Syncro/XYZ got out of control.

Is there any card game similar to ygo that is worth getting into?

>>168594565
I'm guessing that the zone restriction only affect proper sync/xyz/fusion.
Ultimaya doesn't properly summon them so I guess he can bypass the loop.

Otherwise fucking Goyo Defender died.

>>168594635
Is Shadowverse ever going to feature actual interaction between players beyond just whoever curves out better winning?

>>168594125
That's the idea of the first set, but I'm stunned how the new ace monster has omni negation.

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We still work. Buy waifus.

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>>168594637
We also have semen demons if that's your thing.

>>168594670
BuddyFight.

>>168594125
I havent played in a while and came bsck just to joij the hype, but Link Monsters dont even have to be very strong as I understand it, since you can literally only summon 1 extra drck momster withput playing them and they are relatively easy to summon. These are like Xyz in that sense, only decks play them out of necessity more than sheer convenience or value like Xyz. In other words, they dont need to be strong to be good, they basically just need to exist. Youre going to have to play any of them no mattet how atrong they are or be a primarily maindeck centricdeck now which is a minority to say the least.

>>168594721
DUEA still had Shaddolls and Satellarknights, so far every card in this set has been bad.

>>168594748
Got any hot dudes?

>>168594713
>Is Shadowverse ever going to feature actual interaction between players beyond just whoever curves out better winning?
Never this game is a mobile game they don't want japanese salaryman thinking ..

>>168594565
Ojama
K
I
N
G

>>168594546
I'm playing porn browser games instead
If I'm gonna get jewed, I'm gonna get my dick hard in the meanwhile as well

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I use Northwenko's effect to protect my Link Monster, Honeybot, who in turn protects my Northwenko by being linked!

You can't break this unbreakable lock!

>>168594678
i.e. Link Zone is for inherent ED Summons, all other Summons from the ED (by effect) go to the Main Monster Zones

>>168594748
All of the current meta decks are so boring though
Gear Chronicle has been around for too long, Luard is vanilla beat with the typical restand/guard restrict bosses backed up by way too much card draw, and Sanctuary Guard is just braindead lucksack rush.

Card games for weebs?

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>>168594794
Now, I'm sure you asked this thinking I would have nothing. But in fact, vanguard has just the clan for you.

KONAMI HATES SYNCHRO
BUT LOVES XYZ

AM I RITE?

>>168594879
Go away riverside

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>>168594637
Luard is cool! Cool!

>>168594792
I mean, from the new mechanic, but I get your point.

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>tfw you quit this shit game with smelly players years ago and switched to the greatest card game of all time

Yu-Gay-Ohs don't know this feel

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>synchro doesn't affect other deck that doesn't use synchro. you can use them to make them stronger, but it's not necessary
>xyz doesn't affect other deck that doesn't use xyz. you can use them to make them stronger, but it's not necessary
>pendulum doesn't affect other deck that doesn't use pendulum. you can use them to make your deck stronger, but it's not necessary
>link changes the rule so most of the combo is no longer legal and you must use them otherwise your deck is crippled

What's cards & decks will skyrocket from the format change?

>>168594925
All of Luard's support is such trash and he's doomed to carry Diablo on his shoulders forever
It's sad

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>>168594903
Shadowverse

Lets try to see the board change in a positive way.

Is there any deck that will benefit of being able to play 6 monsters at the same time, being 5 normal deck monsters and the 6th an extra deck monster?

>>168594916
Konami hates all extra deck besides link equally now.

>>168594894
How does that effect contact fusions?

So how long until the anime airs again? I'm retarded and that's probably going to be the only way I figure out how this shitty game works now

Also XYZ spam was just murdered outright, right?

>>168594963
>posts MaRo
>literally the Tewart of MtG
90% of players on /tg/ would disagree with you but whatever floats your boat.

>>168594996
Normal Pendulums?

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>>168594304
>can switch the placement of your opponent's links for MASTER STRATEGY
>the game has literally become who can manage their card placement and links better
oh this is gon be good

>>168594894
That means it barely affect Fusion.
And card like Wonder Xyz and Urgent Synchro may see play since they can bypass the restriction.

Okay, I'm gonna wait for the official ruling.

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BUY MONARCHS

A G A I N

>>168595043
Are you going to summon 5 Pendulums from your hand?

>>168595043

>Pendulums

I guess, but they got fucked out 2 spell/trap slots.

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>>168594901
But anon, Nightrose is also a meta deck with a cute pirate waifu.

>>168594978
Isn't Senet like 40 already?

>>168594989
Belial Owl is amazing, but yeah, Luard itself is more defensive than anything and that kinda thing doesn't really work in Shadow Paladin so he's stuck with Diablo forever.

What is the best way to shit out Storm Shooter?

>>168595060
Proper fusion summons still go to the extra zone.

>>168594996
Isnt this a positive change already? I mean extra deck spam was one of the things people complained about most, right? I didnt really mind or care about that but I also dont know if thats better than having the extra zone.

>>168594910
Any hot dudes that look manly?

>>168595028
Link Zone

how are my ritual beasts holding up from this?

>>168595131
Nightrose gets fucked too hard by all the other meta decks playing 10k G2 rides now that they can sit on to force first stride.

>When a player Special Summons a monster to one of them [EMZ]
I think this implies that you can place MD monster to EMZ.
Basically now you have 6 monster zone.

>>168595094
No, I mean Normal Pendulums have scales that make them have extra effects like search or piercing all the while they can benefit from a Link support.

>>168595121
Yeah but they really just need two max for a Solemn and that one cont. trap.

>>168595150
It can revert back to hexproof meta with Kozmo, open Kaiju and fight or don't and lose; that sort of thing.

>>168595121
To be fair a lot of pendulums don't really use that much backrow anyways so its not that much of a hir. Them killing off XYZ makes up for it

>>168594748
Is it still fun to play? The last time I was realistically around was way back when Limit break was becoming an accepted thing.

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>>168595162

>Link monsters point to the opponent's field too
What this even mean?

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Guys explain this to me. The zones under the card are your monster zones since the new extra deck zone is in the middle and you can only use one of the two link zones. So what the hell is this thing supposed to do other than make your opponent's link monster immune to targeting and battle?

>>168595265
It's a very different game now. Rearguard effects got a lot more powerful, so now the game is more combo centric than before. There's also an extra deck now.

>DM is good now

Hell yeah now I need Apprentice more than ever!

My big question is:
They stated that after you place a link monster, you can use the zones it links to special summon. Does this include the enemy's field as well? Because in the picture they showed, one of the monster clearly links an opponent's. Can you... steal field from him?

That's cool, I'm super excited.

>>168595245
Nigga. Monsters summoned from the extra deck goes to the extra monster zone. Pendulum is deader than xyz.

>>168595150

Yeah, but this is such a large change a lot of people werent waiting for. Most decks based on ed summon cant handle having to make a somewhat large setup just so they can start their combos.

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Are you ready for the new meta /dng/?

>>168595323

Probably that you opponent will be able to Summon an Extra Deck Monster on their Zone, even though the Link Monster is yours. You could also possibly gain effects with your opponent's monster in a Linked Zone?

>>168595326
You summon it in one of your monster zones after summoning a link monster in your extra zone.

>>168595326
Link Monsters that link left or right will only work when they're summoned to a Main Monster Zone, and are otherwise useless in the Extra Monster Zone. So, in order to use their links, you will need to summon a Link Monster that links to a Main Monster Zone from the Extra Monster Zone, then you can summon Honeybot to one of those linked Main Monster Zones, who in turn will link the left and right Main Monster Zones.

>>168595387
No, dingus.

>>168595390
learn to read

pendulum monsters go to the normal zones

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GG Link Monsters. ;)

>>168595467
She's a combo piece but she doesn't protect whoever helped summon her, that's kinda bad.

>>168595390
>Monsters summoned from the extra deck goes to the extra monster zone.
Only fusions, synchros and xyz, not pendulums.

>>168595443
>Rows are now viable
Someone call Rank10YGO

>>168594879
i wanna test the link mechanic but konami just kicked in the ass the players who actually play and spend money in the game just for dumb phone-nostafagfs shitters.

So this confirms that Konami is trying to kill Yugioh so they can make more pachinko machines, right?

>>168595387

I think it depends on the effect. One of the card had 2 effects:

1: have 500 more dmg per linked monster (so it makes use of the enemy monster)
2: tribute one of your linked monsters to negate a card of your opponent (so you cant tribute the enemy card)

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>>168595223
That's like 7runner anon, and that shit was pretty much hit by the banlist hard, but Nightrose itself became the best deck thanks to being easily able to do pic related on first stride giving you a +4 easily.

>>168595265
It's pretty damn fun anon, and everyone clan got it's own keyword to work with, some are awesome but others are pretty bad.

>>168595067
I recently bought 3 structure decks.
Is vanity's fiend still a good buy with this new system?

>>168595504
>summon monster to their EMZ
>they can't summon monster from ED at all
Flying "C" value just goes up.

>>168594792
I remember people saying Shadolls were trash because
>fusion summoning
...but yeah, this shit seems weak so far.

>>168595426
It is a huge change but thats exciting to mw. Its so huge. The biggest thing thst bothers me though is it feels the position rhing is being oversold. It doesnt feel like it actually matters much yet. So it feels disigenuous to tout it as some huge strategic changs. From what Ican tell for example there doenst seem to be a way to sumsmsosn more than 2 extra extra deck monsters at once besides link monsters so no matter how you position you want be getting more than thst. It also doesnt seem to matter where you place the first extra deck monster so why they have it set up so theyre unclaimed until the first one instead of just assignig a zone to a player seems to mean nothing. Up arrows also dont seem to mean anything yet.

>>168595043
Lmao salty Yugipoo

>>168595327
So how would I realistically come back into it?

I'm sure I'm missing a shit ton of terminology changes and VG has never been good explaining their shit.

>>168595539
>*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!

Is the same of

>*Extra Deck Monsters cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!

Unless there's a language barrier here.

>>168595667
To be fair, nobody believed Konami could make a deck about flipping effects and fusion meta.

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>use Diamond Duston grave effect to summon it to opponent's EMZ
>they can't summon from ED
HAHA-
>can still use it to Link summon
FUCK

>>168595726
I actually thought theycould make them meta because of Midrash with a good fusion spell but it turns out I was sdti wrong about how and why theyd be good.

>>168595726
Or Rituals. Or tribute summon. Or spam from the hand. But we've been proven wrong so many times, I'm willing to accept the new mechanic and see where it's going just for the hell of it.

>>168595605
No, Gear Chronicle and Sanctuary Guard can both stall you out on G2 to force you to go into Sebreeze to do anything, which doesn't actually let Nightrose do anything because the deck needs Goauche first stride to function at all. So like that Gear Chronicle can gather its combo pieces to fuck you up with a first stride Metallica Phoenix, or Sanctuary Guard can kill you with Regalie. Luard can ride one of its 7-9 vanilla G2s as well and then get insane pluses off of first stride Aurageyser with two Belial Owls.

>>168594792
>first cards in a completely new and gamechanging mechanic that nobody knows anything about or hasn't tested
>the cover card is a negator that'll usually have at least 2800 ATK
>lots of swarmshit, twilightsworn which makes lawnmowingsworns even better, etc
I want braindead trend following netdeckshitters to leave.

>>168595443
http://yugiohprices.com/card_price?name=Senet+Switch

Let's watch.

>>168595623

Is it allowed to summon anything for your opponent EMZ? It would be a fucking stall

RELEASE CONSTRUCT
RELEASE TOWERS
RELEASE NEKROZ
RELEASE CHAIN
RELEASE DRAGON RULERS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

RELEASE INFER... never mind.

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I hope you've all picked your fallback deck until Konami makes some good link monsters to support these shit rules.

>>168595819
>the cover card is a negator that'll usually have at least 2800 ATK
That requires other cards to negate shit, and needs 3 monsters to bring out, and only negates targeting effects. Twilightsworns are literal vanilla beatsticks and can't even mill by themselves.

Wait, I don't get it. Why does this murder every other summoning mechanic?

Is it wrong if I actually like all the new stuff?

>>168595941
Kama 2 looks like he's ready to fuck someone up

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>>168595860
I don't know what you are talking about, so I'm just gonna point out that Flying "C" SS itself to your opponent's field.

>>168595939
Infernities could still make a pretty based Link Engine anon.

If they're released.

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>>168595983
I want to like this but goddamn I need to figure out which of my fucking decks even work anymore

>>168595956
>needs 3 monsters
If you're retarded, maybe. They have two summoning conditions.

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>>168595941
My toad and pendulum dragon deck are dead but as far as I can tell my Ghostrick, Infernoid and Skull Servant deck are pretty much unaffected since I almost never go into the ED more than once a turn

>>168595941
They dont need to be good. You have to play them no matter what unless your deck is already doesnt summon from extra as its primary strategy to begin with. If you want to summon multiple extra deck monsters ever, such as with the years and years of cards that support doing so, youre gonna have to play whatever they give you.

>>168595962
Synchro, Xyz, and Fusion doesn't have Linked Marker.

Next set will be called The End of the Duelist

>>168595810
>Luard can ride one of its 7-9 vanilla G2s as well and then get insane pluses off of first stride Aurageyser with two Belial Owls.
More like all of it's G2 are vanilla unless you're an idiot and use Nemain.

Won't this be a distillated nightmare to code in ygopro?

The funny thing is that Zoodiacs are actually the best link summon engine.
And they made a link monster that specifically requires EARTH monsters, that conveniently opens up two of your monster zones for extra deck stuff.

Did they just murder the extra deck?

>>168595941
Cloudians

>>168596005

Your opponent main monster field, i suppose. They need to revise a shit load of cards now that there are 2 different monster fields.

>>168595962
If you initially summon a Fusion, Synchro or Xyz monster, you can't summon any more ED mosnters.

With Links, you can summon more ED monsters from your ED on your MMZ.

Then, there's the limit of 15 cards in your ED.

How will this new shit affect speed dueling?

>>168596119
Yes

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>Extra Deck spam shows no signs of stopping, send help
>sure thing bro, now each player can only have one ED monster on-field at once
If this is true, the sheer number of cards that literally won't work anymore will be staggering.

>>168596054
>to bring out Link-1 monster, you need 1 monster
>to bring out Link-2 monster, you need 2 monster, or Link-1 monster and 1 monster, which is 2 monster
>to bring out Link-3, etc.
Dunno, anon.

>>168595962
The long and short of it is you can only summon one non link extra deck monster at a time unless you play links which will only let you play like 2 instead of 1 at a time. Which actually is probably the perfect amount. Shit like DD are dead in the water though, somewhat ironically considering theyre still supporting that deck in the new pack.

>>168596098
Well, you still play 3-4 Hoel, but the rest is all 10k vanillas.

>>168596212
Hoel is a generation break anon, if you're sitting at G2 all your G2s are pretty much vanilla, or at least in Luard, because in Diablo you can easily play some Blaster Dark Spirit.

At least I can still rekt my opponent with Igknights.

>>168596165
Honestly Im still sutprised but after xyz shittig on other existing cards but I still am. Theres thst and also them not having levels OR defense or the ability to change position. they really dont give a fuck.

>>168596282
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>168596253
So? You're not supposed to stay on G2 forever, just until Nightrose rides G3.

>>168596282
>summoning more than one monster from extra at a time
LOL! Get a load of this old man.

>>168596290
English, mother fucker.

>>168595962

You can only have 1 extra deck monster in the game unless you set up a link monster. Most decks that rely on extra deck summons dont have space for a whole new summon mechanic.

>>168596134
I'm thinking that EMZ is also treated as monster zone, but it have some special properties.
But if that's the case, as in MMZ is monster zone and EMZ is a brand new field that isn't monster zone, that means EMZ is immune to various effect then, like Senet Switch.

Reminder that you can Ghost Cherries your opponent into being tied to one ED slot

>>168596341
Of course, because you doing your own Seebreze is silly in Luard, unless you can activate Ritual in that turn.

>>168596165
>you don't like how you can only have 1 ED monster?
>buy Link monster then!

>>168596282
>pendulums are actually better than ever
>can SS them from the ED no problem since they go into main monster zones
>offer plentiful fodder for link summoning, probably the easiest way to do it
>pendulum links that go into your scale and link to the card above them are eventually going to be a thing
I don't even give a shit that they're in the S/T zone now, good Pendulum decks aren't heavy on the sets anyway. It's going to be a GOOD day to play Magicians.

>>168596365
Dumb illiterate.

>>168596282
>>168596312
>>168596365
>*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!

So I dropped out around Qliphoth release.

But new Lightsworns are calling me back.

shouldn't tokens be proper materials for link monsters?

>>168596385
>Reaper can hit Link monster
Fucking futureproof.

They made pendulum zones part of the regular S/T zones?
Fuck that. I am no fan. That means we can only have 5 S/Ts instead of 7. It's a huge nerf to spell centric decks in general, and not just pendulums.
And to be frank. Did pendulums even need such a nerf? They haven't been doing all that hot for ages.

how are the nips responding to this?

>>168596469
Right, it's all about securing first stride. The massive advantage swing from Aurageyser tributing Belial Owls is so large that you can easily defend against Nightrose's Goauche play that follows, and then fuck her up with either Spectral Diablo if she leaves cards on the field, or Phantom Diablo if she doesn't.
Luard hard counters Nightrose so hard I don't think I can even consider it a real contender anymore.

>>168595983
Everything I ever loved is dead, time to play Axe of Despair.dek.

So, the Extra Deck Zones are shared ? It means Decode Talker actually "capture" an opponent zone is that right ?

>yfw you realise this doesn't solve anything because Link spam will become the new XYZ spam.

what happens if my link monster gets destroyed while an xyz is linked to it in a normal monster zone ?
will the xyz get destroyed or can it stay

>Nekroz are untouched by the new rules
>And now my opponent won't have an unbreakable board every turn
Haha!

>>168596645
>Link spam
>1 zone
>spam

For fucks sake.

>>168596485
Can you use pends to summon Link monsters? Don't you need to be able to send the monsters to the grave?

>>168596652
There's nothing about being destroyed in the rules.

>>168596576
>Did pendulums even need such a nerf?
I thought they could dodge Wavering Eyes now.

>>168596593
The best part about Belial Owl is how it powercrep'd Swordbreaker Angel, and don't forget Ogma, sure, it might sound silly against fucking Granblue, by doing that shit after you survived the turn when they use all their CBs is strong, and even if they survive that shit you throw a Spectral.

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Who Summoned Skull beatdown here?

>>168596689
They have no levels.

>>168596652
The Xyz gets Delinked. It stays where it is, it's just not Linked to anything anymore.

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>all these drastic changes
>the lightning will still be cancer

>>168594637
Is Buddyfight any good? Made and published by the same people as Vanguard I think

>>168596539
It should be, just like Synchro can use Token.
That means you can use Gofu tokens to summon a Link-2 monster.

Link Monsters will definitely have something on the other side right?

Because they will never be in your maindeck and will never be facedown

>>168596689
Pendulums can be 'sent' to the graveyard in the case of Fusion and Synchro Summons. Link Summons are the same scenario.

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>The Newly Created Extra Monster Zone
>You can only use one of them!<
>*Extra Deck Monsters, like Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link, cannot be Summnoned to the Main Monster Zone, beware!
Ok. So what about extra deck monsters that summon extra deck monsters?
Or archetypes that rely on multiple extra deck monsters in tandem, like fluffals and how one frightfur buffs the others.

>>168596689
what >>168596771 said, it's just like you can use pendulum monsters as synchro materials

>>168596619

>Decode Talker
>This card gains 500 ATK for each monster linked to it. During either player's turn, when your opponent activates a card or effect that targets a card(s) you control: You can Tribute 1 of YOUR monsters linked to this card; negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card.
>YOUR MONSTERS LINKED

You get the 500 atk buff if your opponent summon something directly in front of it, but you cant tribute the opponent monster.

>>168596831
Useless

Are Cubics viable now?

>>168596831
Well you obviously need to link first and then you use the old combos

>>168596725
>I thought they could dodge Wavering Eyes now.
Nah. The S/T zones become Pendulum zones when they have pendulum cards activated on them.

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uhhhh how are we gonna summon this shit now?

>>168596831
Link your zones and don't be a fuccboi. Your synchro masturbation will require actual thought now.

>>168596689
is like mask change II, you cant still special summon the link monster but the metrials dont go to the graveyard

>>168596831
I'm thinking non-proper summon isn't affected by zone restriction.
So Bahamut, Ultimaya, Goyo, and Supreme Gate bypasses those zone restriction.

I say wait for official ruling

>>168596771
Synchros require a tuner, it would be too easy to summon monsters just with tokens, that's why you can't xyz with them, and probably can't link either.

>>168596908
What if I only use one pendulum zone?
Will the other zone be free to use for spell and trap?

BATTERYMEN TIER 1 LADS

>>168596901
>>168596930
Explain. I thought you can only use one Extra Deck zone. With Extra Deck monsters not being able to be summoned to the Main Monster Zones.
I don't see how linking makes a difference.

>>168596919

Just set up a link card that links 3 slots.

>>168596682
>I still don't know how this mechanic works

>>168596976
Post builds, at least we can still use 1 Seraph.

>>168596682
You summon more links to other zones that are linked with it

Also did they mention what happens to ED monster that were summoned to link zones if the link is broken? Do they all go to the grave or just sit there smiling

>>168596849
Oh the mechanic is even stupider and boring than I thought then. Thanks for the explanation.

>>168596831
Im thinking this means you just cant normally summon them anywhere but th3 extra zone. Effects that dont properly summon them should still work. We got the example that reborn put extra deck monsters into he main zones.

>>168596831
>>168596919
>>168596979
Is everyone here illiterate or am I actually the idiot?

The Arrows a Link monster points at BECOME available for extra deck zones

>>168594761
What are the flaws other than no cute girls?

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>>168596901
>commit to pushing out a Link, then you can try to go off
If only it were that easy!
I mean, if everyone has to slow down a bit to accommodate these rule changes it works a bit, but these just seem so unweildy

>>168596979
Every Link Monster has Link Arrows pointing to other zones. Those zones - considered Linked - can have Extra Deck monsters summoned into them as long as that Link Monster is on the field.

Where my spellbook boys at? We tier 1 again?

>People so butt frustrated at Pendulums that they want konami to kill Pendulums with their new mechanic
>Konami instead listens to Duel Link mobile tier nostalgia faggots instead. And kills all extra deck methods instead
Interesting.
I guess I can try going back to playing Warrior Toolbox and Batterymen now.

will super poly finally be unbanned in TCG?
will stratos will be ever freed?

>>168597040
Trust me, you're not the only sane one here.

>>168596947
You can generally Tribute token and pendulum though.
That means using a monster as material for summon isn't using them as cost of some sort, so pendulum and token should have no problem regarding that.

Though from balancing view, just like you said, it'll be too easy to summon them, but that's how it should work from past mechanic view.

>>168596835
You can't use them in a contact fusion though.

Dark World Domination SOON

>>168596976
>>168597118
Batterymen are funny, they always somehow become kinda viable after a new YGO gen begins.

>>168596979

When you put a LINK monster in your ED zone, all linked main monster zone slots become ED zone, you retarded.

You can lut yet another Link monster in the new ED zone, creating even more ED zones.

Most combos arent dead, just slowed to a crawl. Perhaps it is the best thing ever happen in ygo.

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>mfw new rulings make Bujins decent again.

>>168597121
Nah, that's going a bit too far.

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>>168597163
???

>>168597040
It's what I'm understanding as well but I don't know what happens when it unlocks one for the opponent. Does it just unlock a slot for him, or does it becomes mine ?
I understand I can't tribute from his zone si it probably means The slot doesn't belong to me.

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>>168597163
Forgetting about me and Beast-Eyes, are we?

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>>168597090
I think they're the only option I have that isn't affected by this, so here I am

>>168597242
Here comes the main deck muscle!

Wait. Can you can summon Link Monsters by sending corresponding monsters from anywhere from your field?
Or just corresponding from the to-be-linked zones?

>>168597190
Only if they are really careful with LINK monsters.
Because to me it seems like the easiest thing is just to throw every other ED monster away and just use LINKs

but hey they seem weak so far so who knows. Maybe Konami won't go full retard.

>>168597242
>Honeybot

>>168597272
That card was created exclusivelly to be a loophole for a Pendulum monster, read Chimeratech or any other cards.

>>168597323
>Maybe Konami won't go full retard.
Rescue Wiesel, or whatever that one is, is there to make that happen.

>>168597289
>Does it just unlock a slot for him, or does it becomes mine ?
It helps your opponent.

Am I a retard, or can you still special summon pendulum monsters from the extra deck with the new rules?

>>168597289
>Does it just unlock a slot for him, or does it becomes mine ?
It unlocks that slot for him but also LINKS his Monster to yours.

>>168597321
The materials can come from anywhere on your field.

>>168597398
It was implied that you both can and can't.

>>168597289
By my understanding of this sentence
>if you have a Link Monster in the Extra Monster Zone, the Zones pointed at by their Link Markers can be used to Summon Extra Deck Monsters!
>if you have X, Y becomes possible
I say it only affect the controller.

We need a clear ruling, really.

>>168597289

If you place a link monster that also links to an opponent zone, it either become an extra ED zone for him, or nothing happens. We arent sure yet. It certainly dont become your.

If I understand correctly:You can only summon one Fusion/Synchro/XYZ monster at a time unless you have Link monsters.If You have a Link Monster you can summon multiple Fusion/Synchro/XYZ

Link Pendulums when?

>>168597479
Only if your Link Monster has enough markers facing monster zones on your side of the field.

Chaos/Chaos Dragons might me viable now, along with all slow control/stun decks.

so. monsters that are on the zone that are linked to the linked summoned monster can later summon extra deck monsters?

>>168597459
I wish Jewnami was more specific about it for the rulings, so we wouldn't be left to wonder what the fuck we can do with them.

>>168597384
>d-doesn't count
It's inherent summon via summoning procedure written in the card.
The required summoning procedure in the card is treated as cost, but inherent summon via summoning mechanic isn't.

>>168597568
No the zones can be used for ED monsters but obviously not if there are already monsters in it.

>>168597556
Kek

Chaos Dragons will always be garbo

>>168597176
How did pendulums made Batterymen viable? Or you mean generation in general with 9v in ZeXaL and Stormforth in Arc-V? Am I remembering the generations right? It's been years, fuck

>>168597389
Just like Rescue Hamster did for pends right

>>168597641
Guessing you didn't see the Twilightsworn?

With the new rules, will warrior toolbox be viable again?

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Who /chainburn/? New Monster Zone means 500 more off Desserts!

>>168597710
>Or you mean generation in general with 9v in ZeXaL and Stormforth in Arc-V?
That.

>>168597729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tsSL2rZJXc

>>168597758
And we thought the deck was kill because of the ruleset that was "spoiled" before, dis gon b gud.

do i need free ED zones to summon a monster from there
for example i want to summon utopia, on my field i have 1 link monster in my ED zone and 2 level 4 monsters linked to it (their zones are treated as Ed zones because of the link)
can i summon utopia or not ?
theoretically i have no free ED zones but the moment i overlay the level 4s i have a free ED zone
i hope someone understands what i mean

>>168597710
>>168597763
I was so happy that Konami made 9V, now it's time for new Batterymen support, hopefully a Batteryman Link monster.

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Where were you when KoA were so laughably slow with releasing the DDDs, that Konami had time to change the rules of the entire fucking game before we got them?

>>168597839
It punishes Zoodiacs hard but they won't be as big of a threat. Sadly, Dinos shitting out Laggia/Toad hurts it.

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>>168597581
Let me give you the rundown, my friend.

Unless we're at victim to shoddy translation on the Org's part, they went out of their way to say 'Summoned'. 'Extra Deck Monsters' cannot be 'Summoned' to the field. If it comes from the Extra Deck, it applies.

The Q&A describing reviving one from the Grave and it going to a Main zone is because it's no longer an Extra Deck monster. It didn't come from your Extra Deck, it came from your Graveyard. This ruling also applies to things like Odd-Eyes Persona Dragon, which cannot negate a Synchro Monster summoned from the Graveyard, for example.

Pendulum Monsters summoned from the Extra Deck are therefore subject to the limit and require Links to be effective, as they need to go into the Extra Deck Monster Zone. Pendulum Summoning from your hand is still viable, however.

>>168597889
I don't care about DDDs though

>>168597882
I've been using them for a year now, now it'll actually be decent.

>>168597862
I'm going to say no.

>>168595941
Kangs, nigga.

>>168597862
I don't see why you can't, It's kinda like summoning a new monster by using the old monsters as material even if you have a full field.

>>168597967
Me too, only deck I own in real life.

>>168597967
I always had the trashtier fun Batterymen deck, now they can even snatch wins I think.

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>>168597384
????????????????????????????????

>>168597905
persona dragon
>summoned from the Extra Deck
not the same thing

>>168597862
That is kinda like saying you can't tribute summon a monster if you have already five monsters on the field
It should definitely work.

Jesus Christ all this new shit is beating me to the ground to understand.

>>168597763
Arent there monsters thst need 3 extra deck monsters out? You cant summon them now, can you? As far as I can tell theres no way possible to get 3 markers on cards. I guess you can use senet switch and castle link??

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Is this possible?
Using Link monster to Link summon, and place it in a Linked zone of Link monster used as material?

>>168595941
Infernoids are mostly unphased about this change.

>Synchro Spam DEAD
>Xyz Spam DEAD
>New Link overlords are blue.
>Rule changes give rise to ritual renaissance
>Blue
>People dropping the game left and right

I have found the thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVpDLqsfe98

No black and white in the blue ;_;

>>168598158
I don't think so.

>>168598158
I personally don't think so, because at the time of the summoning, the link monster is not on the field anymore

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Link Slayer
Level 5 EARTH Cybers-Type Effect Monster
ATK Unknown
DEF Unknown
(1) If you control no monsters, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand).
(2) Once per turn: You can discard up to 2 cards, then target that many Spell/Trap Cards on the field; destroy them.

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>>168598067
Yes, it is the same thing.

Odd-Eyes Persona Dragon negates monsters Summoned from the Extra Deck, no matter what type of Summon it was. It can negate a Pendulum Monster that came from the Extra Deck, but not one that came from the hand.

The new summon limit affects monsters Summoned from the Extra Deck, no matter what type of Summon it is. It will affect Pendulum Monsters that came from the Extra Deck, but not those that come from the hand. Likewise, Synchro Monsters that come from the Graveyard will not be subject to it.

The key wording here is 'from the Extra Deck'. If it comes from anywhere else, it's fair game.

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>>168595941
I can't play Madolche anymore, guess I'll play Cyber Angels...

Shit.

Synchro and Xyz players will now have to play like the guys in the anime do, summon 1 and protect that fucker like it's life or death. Man' that really kills Yusei and Crow, their decks only work with more than one synchro. Judai could possibly be okay, his deck never has more than one fusion elemental hero out anyway in my experience. Yuma decks are definitely gonna be fine, They always only sit on Utopia cards

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>>168597862
>>168598158
I wanna say yes to both but it can't be both
My head!

Tributing comes first so >>168598158 is not possible

That is my ruling for now.

dw guys, Chain Burn, Exodia and all the other meme decks still work the same :^)

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>crystal beasts decks are viable again

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You'll still buy High Executive Ghenghis right?, Right?

>>168598141
Summon Link Spider, then summon Honeybot behind Link Spider, then you can get rid of Link Spider to summon 3 ED monster.

KEK
https://twitter.com/KUJO_KAREN_/status/832571777876234240

Do Link Monsters go in the Extra Deck or Main Deck?

>>168598303
>Doesn't actually destroy link monsters
huh?

>>168594014
this means in all odds we're gonna see lightsworns in the newanimu

Wait so is the most amount of ED zones I can have 3 if I put a Link monster with 3 arrows pointing to my field in my Extra Zone?

>>168598429
Oh, I didnt think about gettig rid of a previously summoned guy. That will work a lot more practically.

>>168598494
Extra Deck. All Link Monsters stay in the Extra.

so, if i get out a link monster, then i can extra deck spam?

>>168598307
He's saying that
>monster that's SS'd from ED =/= ED monster
Ygorg article carefully choose their wording and says the restriction only applied if you want to summon an ED monster, not summon from ED.

>>168598483
I don't speak moonrunes

>>168598303
Is this the rumored Dark World support?

Wait
So toon decks can be a thing?

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ITS OVER
YUGIOH EXTRA DECK SHITTERS ARE FINISHED
OLD SCHOOL IS COMING BACK TO REIGN SUPREME AGAIN
BTFO
BASED KONAMI

>>168598483
Translate it, weab

>>168597530
>Link Rituals

>Because ED is nerfed people are thinking garbage like Toons and Crystal Beasts are a thing

Please stop.

>>168598303
>>168598519
Link Monsters link Monsters, right? I really don't see how destroying S/T does anything in terms of "slaying" them.

>>168598663
LINK SYNCHROS WHEN

ERRATA HYPER LIBRARIAN AS A LINK SO I CAN MASTURBATE INTO BLAZAR WHILE HE'S IN HIS OWN COMFY ZONE

FUUUUU WHY DID THEY EVEN RELEASE BLAZAR

I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS TIMELINE

>>168598626
>Implying the game won't eventually devolve into Link masturbation

>reveal the D/D/D Executives and a new RUM
>right next to that
>LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THAT: the one and only reason those cards are unplayable trash

>>168598612
Your "ED monster" is not a ED monster when summoned from the graveyard.
So a monster is a ED monster whenever summoned from the ED.

So what are they going to do to Monarchs? Ban them?

Also. ED monsters summoned in one of the new ED Monster Zones, become Kaiju proof, right?
That's kind of interesting.

>>168598747
>Link Synchros
They don't have levels you dingdong.

They killed my Gustos... fucking why.

>>168598636
all card shop in japan stop yugioh acquisition

can we summon a non extra deck monster to the extra deck monster zone?

So how do you summon Quasar now?
I am guessing it'll be quite the feat now.

>>168598856
Nigga they killed pretty much everyone that wasnt playing like Monarchs or any type of Rituals.

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>>168598827
Neither does this but it can still be Pendulum Summoned.

>>168598424
Meanwhile Gem-Knights got shafted hard

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>>168598827
Perfect

>>168598541
3 at one time but I mean you could remove your link monster and kill the opponents and then use the other link zone.