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Previous: >>168528808

>[Rerun: Uproar of the Chocolate Ladies]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170208.php
From 2/8 to 2/22
Expanded version of the previous Valentine event
5* Berserker MHX (Alter) is on rate-up every day

>[Valentine 2017 Female Gacha 1]
2/17 MHX (Alter)
2/18 MHX (Alter) + Valentine 2016 CE
2/19 to 2/22 MHX (Alter)

>[Valentine 2017 Female Gacha 2]
2/17 Quetzalcoatl

>[Valentine 2017 Male Gacha]
Tesla, Arjuna, Karna, Enkidu, Ozymandias, Waver, Vlad and Cu (Alter) rate-up

>[Craft Essences]
>Female
5* Cute Orangette / Street Choco Maid (+5)
4* Choco Angel / Kitchen Patissiere (+3)
3* Blissful Time / Valentine Dojo of Tears (+1)
>Male
5* Chocolatier Arts (+5)
4* Bitter Black (+3)
3* Composure of the Victor (+1)
>Shop
5* Sweet Crystal (+2)
5* Fondant Au Chocolat (+2)

>News
- Latest changes http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- Melty Sweetheart CE can now be bought with Rare Mana Prism
- Secondary Archival Storage can be expanded with Mana Prism
- Epic of Remnant to launch on late February or early March

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Grand Time Temple Solomon and General Profile Translation
http://pastebin.com/yP9nRYZM

>Fate/Grand Order Material Book III
https://www.mediafire.com/?e97zcwaov6noys2

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate Servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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delet this
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>>168562785
>Sexualizing the Captain
OVER THE LINE
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>BBA OP
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Which scenes from each chapter made you go "holy shit" the most?
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I love Eli!
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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Best boy.
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Why Musashi's NP summons Herkek?
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>>168563108
Hey Archimedes could you help me with my math?
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>>168563053
Orleans:Fafnir as anyone that was around when the game first came out knows how big of a shock that was to everyone and the hurdle at the time
Septem:How can this shit be so bad?
Okeanos:Asterios v. Herc
London:"Solomon" reveal
America:Telsa and Edison team up
Camelot:LOOOOORDDDOOO CAMELLOOOOTT
Babylon:Everything end of Order
Solomon: Mashu tanking Goteia attack
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>>168563291
I'm not Archimedes, and I suck at math anon.
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>>168563278
It's a side job for some extra money
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Sita when?
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>168563053
None got any reaction out of me until Tiamat. If anything I was more surprised at the Babylon helper than any of the other events in orders.
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>>168563339
no alter and mashu np clash?
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Surprised Saber is cute!
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And from the question of the Imperial Holy Grail 's beauty to the story of Ieyasu' s raccoon dog.
Strength E Endurance E Agility E Magic E E Lucky C Treasure A No skill!
This is weak but is there absolutely something? You think so.
Yes that's right. Tanuki uses seven treasures.


Optionally change to 7 classes by treasure. Treasure specialized servant corresponding to all situations.
The point is that it is concurrently serving as a legendary warlord of the Tokugawa shogun's seventh horseman.
Status and skills are prepared for each class.
It is a funny servant like Jay's seven-change.

Why is this such an interesting specification, Ieyasu is actually a shadow warrior.
Ieyasu in the capital time and space died soon, and the shadow warrior became the flag of Tokugawa.
It is "Shadow Warrior Tokugawa Ieyasu"
Anyhow, it is a poor spirit who is a sacrifice of the system called Tokugawa.
Conversely speaking, because it is a spirit of the system called Tokugawa it is possible to use the power of the warlords of Tokugawa differently.
There is no freedom in life before servant but it is possible to fight with high degree of freedom.
What irony it is.
By the way it depends on how Ieyasu of the monophones come or not.

The topic that was a hot topic is obvious.
Knobs can be advantageous in poor compatibility classes, but they are fatally incompatible with monkeys that can take treasure.
Regardless of monkeys, knobs are somewhat want to know more details including classes with poor compatibility.


When?
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>>168563278
Its not Heracles, its Japanese war diety with four arms.
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>>168563728
>Knobs can be advantageous in poor compatibility classes, but they are fatally incompatible with monkeys that can take treasure.

So he's got versatility but is countered by Hideyoshi
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>>168563672
She's a story unlock, she's effectively limited considering your odds of getting her outside of a rate-up.

Look at how many people don't have NP2 Bedivere for example.
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>Rolled Quetz AND Lancer Alter from the bait gacha
It wasn't a mistake, /fgog/.
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>>168563903
Bedi-chan is made even worse by the fact that he hadn't had a single rate up besides the current Valentine's Boy's Gacha though.
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Who let the Drakefag make a thread?
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>>168564034
This isn't actually a rateup as it rolls for rarity and class first before the servant. There's no silver sabers so there was no bloat from females in the first place.
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>>168564061
They sniped it from Editionfag

Nothing we could do.
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Xth for Best Pirates.


>>168564061
I don't know but i'm ok with it.-
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Will Riyo do the artwork for his original Servants.
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>No Shiki thread on her birthday in Japan
Maybe tomorrow

>Shiki in her late 30s today
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Is it safe to post she who must not be named?
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>>168564356
>No Ara~Ara~ Shiki
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>>168564356
I said I was making the next thread and made one just for Shiki but the drakefag went ahead and made this one anyway, just recycle the Shiki one once it's time to migrate.
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>>168564356
This remind me that I didn't even finish the first KnK movie because it was boring as fuck and I dropped it after ten minutes.
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>>168564356
>SHIKI

Just why? ;_;
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>>168564498
Might want to take some medicine if you can't watch something for more than 10 minutes
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>>168564494
Sure, I'll cut out the edition shit though.
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What if i tell you that i'm the aber aber anon?
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>>168564408
I want to eat that fox ass.
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>>168564576
I just found it boring and I didn't like the animation that ufotable did with the movies.
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>>168564714
>ban evading
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So who's up for some baseless Scheherazade speculation?

Since we only have 5 5* Riders and Assasins compared to 6 for every other class (besides sabers with 7) what do you think the chances are that she'll be released as one of those two?
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>>168564902
Who was Scheherazade? One of the EoR servants?
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>>168564498
KnK is a little weird, especially with the disjointed timeline.

What worked for me was watching the episodes in chronological order. Honestly some of the best ufotable scenes are in that series. It really makes me wish Nasu would have Mahoyo animeized.
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>>168564949
She's (probably) brown ass on the left and future top priority target for cuckposters.
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>Shinjuku
>Free-Transforming Street Ruffian, Magic Bullet, Empress of Puppets, Ally of Justice / Perpetrator of Evil, Phantom, Gentleman Criminal , The Phantasmal League of Demons, Fallen Star, Traitor / Double Cross, Lament Beneath the Moon

>Agartha
>The Hollow Earth, Hero of Brutal Insanit, The Brilliant Fortress, Jungle of Gold, The Fragrance of Peaches, The War-Cry of the Women Warriors , Phantasmal Metropolis, The Skies of Void, The Distortion of an Undistorted Wish

>The Tournament of the Seven Blade-Master Heroes
>Pentacle, The Beautiful Beast Smiles, Empyrio, Purgatorio, Inferno, Zen and the Sword Are One, In-Laiden Karma, The Seven Blade-Master Heroes, The Blade-Maiden of the Empyrean Eye, Void and Infinity, The Annihilation of All, Rage Overflowing

>Salem of the Heresy
>Witch Hunt, Witch Trials, The Most Heretical of the Witches, The Great Calamity, Anno Domini 1692, Seven at the Gallows, Inescapable Accusation, "Salem," Massachusetts
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>>168564801
None of the casual Tamamoposters were banned the other day. Only the spammer/thread creator was.

Posting the fox in her delicious spring outfit is not ban-worthy.
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How do i use a team centered around Dantes?
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>>168565015
Well, that actually can work, I'll try watching it in chronological order.
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>>168564902
I really don't know how, or why, they would make a story teller anything but a Caster at this point. Abigail has a better chance of being an Assassin.
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I need this qt saber
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>>168564801
I'm going to post my waifu once and there's nothing you can do about it!
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tfw defending your homeland from invasion, and meet version of yourself who became a evil monster
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NERO BRIDE RATE UP WHEN?
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>>168565292
Then buy a copy of Fate/Empire of Dirt and get her and her H-scenes.
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good seiba
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>>168565692
I'll just wait it's uploaded
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>>168565685
hopefully soon, I need to save quartz
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>>168564494
Stay made stupid Shikicuck
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>>168565774
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>>168564494
Instead of saying you're gonna make it, stop being a beta and just make it you stupid cuck.

Nobody "calls" making threads. What are you, 12?
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Is KnK the most pretentious thing Nasu ever wrote? Would you even go as far as saying it's the most pretentious thing TM has created above the level of Zero?
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What the fuck is Empire of Dirt? Some fanfic game?
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>>168565774
>>168565936
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>Oh cool, Quetzalcoatl is at a rate up, let me try my luck
>Does a simple 10 roll
>Gets a 2nd 6.0 Shitzerker
>No cute wrestling mom
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>>168565574
VALD HAD A HARD LIFE
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>>168566204
yes
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Ruler Karl Marx when?
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>>168566203
No. KnK was actually good, it's just Nasu wrote it before he realized that if he wanted money he had to write sex scenes with gastropod metaphors and euphemisms.
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>>168566245
>6.0 Shitzerker
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>>168566245
>6.0

Giving MHXA too much credit there.
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>>168566395
Is she even lower now?
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>>168564902
Really she can't be anyone but Caster. No swords, bows, spears, mounts, high body count or craziness.
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>>168566313
I guess Ruler just means whatever the fuck at this point. Ruler Gilgamesh soon, class doesn't mean a damn thing. Cu Ruler and Heracles Ruler SSR next, followed by Medea Ruler.
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>>168566245
>6.0
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>>168566041
It's to stop there being multiple new threads at once.
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>>168566510
salty
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>>168566481
I dunno you tell me.
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>so bad all the bottom tier units get bumped up a .5 so they aren't on the same level as her
>technically a 4.5 by extension

DW really outdid themselves this time.
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Who do you think will be the game's first 4.5-rated five star?
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>>168566359
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Hope you're using characters you like.
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Sup nerd

Give me your lunch money
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>>168566817
Suck my dick first
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>>168566204
The Japanese counterpart of the flustered saberfag
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>>168563278
Go away Melvin
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>>168567007
But I'm not Melvin, I don't even like JETS but Herkek is Herkek.
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Could a USAF F-22 outmaneuver an ancient Babylonian spaceship?
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>>168566923
Only if you suck my dick first

Nothing gay though, no homo
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>>168566923
>>168567243
Is it a feminine penis?
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>>168567328
Only one way to find out
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>>168566510
>Ruler Gilgamesh soon
Please look forward to the new limited Gilgamesh in the Gilgamesh gacha, accompanied by welfare rider Gilgamesh in the Gilgamesh event composed entirely of Gilgamesh.
>3* Ko-Gil
>4* Caster Gilgamesh
>4* Caster Gilgamesh (Lily)
>5* Archer Gilgamesh
>5* Ruler Gilgamesh
>6* Berserker Gilgamesh (Bride)
enjoy
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>>168566925
Did he die?
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>>168567243
Wait you want your dick suck first and my money? Your a greedy little slut.

>>168567328
The most feminine
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>>168567413
>Did he die?
Wait, who died?
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How would you make Carnival Phantasm season 5 work out?
There's just so much shit in the Nasuverse.
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>>168567385
Gil isn't artoria anon
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>>168567105
>admits to not being the jetsfag
Very well Melvin. At least you're consistently a Tristanfag now.
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>>168567484
>it has been 12 years since it ended
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Gil event when
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>>168567553
He gets enough porn with Shirou to be
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>>168567553
Once you get one copy of yourself, you've already contracted the cloning disease of Saberfaceitis
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>>168567484
The problem is now that most people are so hung-up on Fateshit, that they won't even recognize half of the elements in Carnival Phantasm.

They'll be like "who are those cats? can we get more servants in meido outfits please."
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>Class that has 100% saint ratio so far, is pointed out that it doesn't mean political ruler immediately, it means saint basically
>Class is said to have super strict conditions
>Karna was disqualified because he wasn't saint enough
>Amakusa had to cheat to get in, his interlude talks about how him getting in is entirely wrong and was entirely due to cheating. And he could only cheat to get in because his saint status was at least kinda in debate.
>"But y'know, I'm pretty sure literally anyone could get in, class doesn't mean anything after all. Ceasar Ruler when? EMIYA Ruler soon I hope"

___ Ruler is kinda of a meme at this point.
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>Fate then
>Fate now
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?!
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>>168567710
>who are those cats? can we get more servants in meido outfits please.


This is Takeuchi all the way
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>>168567790
She's not small enough.
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>>168567710
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Nasu is confirmed working for FGO 2 and Extella 2. Probably more Fate shit, since he is already doing Edmond's life with Sakurai.

Tsukihimefags can stop dreaming they are getting the remake this year.
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>>168567790
>Actually created a backstory for her, instead of just being a Saber costume
Gee..
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>>168567954
FGO 2 better come out fast, I'm bored as fuck

Also it might be smart to not transfer account on opening day knowing DW
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>>168567631
hopefully after fall so I can whale to NP5 for every version
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>>168567750
>implying our GARcher BRO EMIYA isn't already the Saint of Swords
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>>168566661
The reasons the Memelist man gave for Making Ilya better than her was literally just Merlin's existence, when due to Ilya's sub 10k effective attack and only 1 (one) critable Buster coupled with her shitty NP gain and everything else, I'd say they're equally shit, when 5.0 at least has berserker bonus and higher effective attack and two critable busters, along with much better NP gain.
Of course I'm just going to get meme responses so I don't even know why I bothered typing this out.
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>>168568029
>transfer account
Last I checked, there explicitly not going to be a new app.

Do you have a source for that or are you retarded?
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>>168567710
But they already don't know why Nasu is a Mushroom.
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>Elizabeth mentions Archimedes but no Hakuno in FGO

Wow. Hakunofags still pretend she gives a fuck about him beyond pet-level.
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>>168568029
FGO 2 = Part 2
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>>168567710
Though it may not be much, Melty Blood did get a steam release last year
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>>168568112
DO you know how many space this game takes? Try using your head a bit
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>>168568263
DO you know how many english your bad? try using your head a bit
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Hoy many 5* do you have /fgog/?
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>>168568029
They aren't doing a new app when this one still has a lot of room apparently. They predicted this shit.
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>>168568341
>DO you know how many english your bad
You doing okay there anon? Head hurting a bit?
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>>168568186
Oh shit really? Is it the entire series translated?
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>>168568263
Do you think DW cares?

>>168568342
Just 11.
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>>168568186
>Melty Blood did get a steam release last year
Please tell me we are not doing this again.

I remember this argument when it first came out of how MB how no influence on TM in the west when people were spouting how it will make TM care about the west.
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>>168568263
The app is like 400MB if you don't download the full data, and less than 2GB if you do.

I've taken larger shits for breakfast.
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>>168568342
22
a lot of them are ones i don't want though like the poo and the mud
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>>168568112
So it will just be a really big update?
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>>168568342
4.

One is NP4, two are NP2. I'm a rate up king.
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>>168568576
Like I said, it may not be much (or simply nothing at all). I only mention it as it's really the only thing in recent years that links back to Tsukihime.
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>>168568108
Doesn't Illya have actual skills unlike MHXA
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>>168567954
>Tsukihimefags can stop dreaming they are getting the remake this year.
I think Tsukihimefags committed suicide back in 2010. Tsukihime 2 is bigger vaporware than Duke Nukem Forever.
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>>168568854

Yeah, like her buster card increase with one buster card AND a flat chance to get guts. Surprised she's not higher on the memelist
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>>168568108
Illya has an actual good skillset and at least serves a purpose of filling a certain niche. There's literally no party that MHXA fits into or a niche she fills
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>>168568342
24. about 1k spent
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>>168569032
MHXA just wants Avenger-kun to fill her niche, if you know what I mean.
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>>168568342
Just 2
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For some reason google banned my gmail account and every new subsequent one I make gets banned too. Even new credit cards don't work at all. I guess buying a 140 pack set of an alarm for some reason? I can't even buy any quartz for new servants though but does anyone know what I can do?
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>>168568703
No different than any of the previous singularity updates we had or the events who had their own map.

Can't believe people still fall for the FGO2 new app meme.
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>>168568854
Buster Up, Invuln + NP Gain Up, Heal + RNG.
But her effective attack is 9720, she has a 3 Arts deck but garbage NP gain on each of those cards, and her NP gives her a demerit.

>>168569032
Not really.
You might as well just bring a support Berserker or Jeanne Alter or something for anything that you'd bring Ilya for because with how low her attack is it's not going to make much of a difference. Even Medea is probably better at killing Assassins than her, because at least she can NP spam.
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Best Alter thread.
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>>168569032
I cleared the 'hard challenge' with her, Jack and Mashu in 26 turns.
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>>168569202
>commits credit card fraud
>with the largest tech firm in the world
>is surprised they caught onto him
Honestly you can probably expect a visit from local law enforcement now. Obviously they're tracking you well enough to do that.

Serves you right, hope you like "Rider", because True Name: Big Bubba is going to make you his cock chariot in jail.
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>>168569202
If you had any common sense in you you would have thought it wouldn't be that easy. You can't just add a credit card to a new account and start buying shit right away. The accounts have to be aged first.
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>>168569202
I'm still making refund accounts no problem, what did you do?
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>>168569301
Yes, the game is easy enough barring some of the Nerofest quests that you can use whoever you like, so long as you follow common sense.
The memelist is basically just used for shitposting.
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>>168569379
I've only done a refund during that new years fiasco.
>>168569475
i had a few spare accounts which was at least 4 months old and those got banned too. The specific error message is either "account has a problem" or a "Please try again later," error message. As for new ones though I guess that is true. I'll try waiting and see if it can get through.
>>168569483
Just bought a pack because i wanted to roll for quetz and then i get an email saying my payments account got frozen.
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>>168569254
She doesn't instantly die as soon as she hits the field MHXA and has an invul that also helps her NP gain. Just that alone makes her a more useful unit than MHXA.
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JETS is here
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>>168569804
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>>168569756
Did you clear the challenge with her, anon? Show us your picture of fielded frontliner Illya in the challenge quest as MHXAfags showed us theirs thread ago.
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>>168569917
That was one hell of a weird toy. It's like that Woody one but messed up instead of molester.
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>>168570030
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Jeanne found a peculiar item in your belongings.
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>>168569756
So she'll just sit there eating up card slots that could be used for servants that can actually do something productive instead.
They're both utterly garbage.
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>>168569918
You think clearing that challenge is anything special? This is the easiest "challenge" quest we've had to date.

>>168570390
I'm not saying Illya is good, but she's far more useful than MHXA is.
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>>168569804
Hi JETS
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good old times
https://youtu.be/9SrKJ1_xlqM
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>>168570535
oishii des
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>>168570465
Whatever. Show her them. Show us how great illya is by clearing it with her as frontliner. Go ahead, you can even use double Merlin to make her shine.

We'll be waiting, it wouldn't take you longer than 50 turns, right? If you actually can't do this with her, it means she's shit and fails to clear the 'easiest challenge' we've had so far thus she'll be useless in the future too.
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I keep hearing about Arts teams, but are there Buster and Quick teams as well?
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NINE LIVES SHIROU-ARCHER WHEN?
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>>168570885
Quick was the team to go a year ago when Jack, Scat and Okita meme'ed everyone. Now Buster+crit it is with Merlin and Jeanne Alter.
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le bone of my sword xD
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>>168570885
Buster Team is basically your buster qt waifu boosted with Merlin.
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What exactly does it mean to be the Bone of your Sword?
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>>168570209
Nightmares aside, it looks like that figure has a bigger chest than the king. Feels odd.
>>168570515
Hello.
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>go waist!
wha did she mean by this
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>>168570225
Does Jeanne have crispy hands?
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>>168571775
Would it make a difference if she did?
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>>168571775
And horrible manface.
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>>168569736
Was the error "Your payment has been declined due to a problem with your account." ?
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>>168571953
For a handjob, it would.
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>>168569294
>Cant' solo Goetia
She's burnable trash, anon
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>>168572012
She did try to pass off as a man.
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>>168569736
>I've only done a refund during that new years fiasco.
Serves you right faggot.
This is a gacha game and refunding only marks you as fucking scum
get fucked
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I've never had a problem refunding with apple. in total about 800 refunded.
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>>168568342
5.

Nero Bride, Iskandar, Tamamo Lancer, Medb and Jeanne
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>>168572012
>>168572201
wait, that's a girl in that?

I thought it was r63
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Shinji got choco from Medusa and Sakura. How does make you feel?
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>>168572626
If he wants to accept chocolate from two shitty whores more power to him.
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>>168572547
What, do you need to see the boobs or something?
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>>168572626
Shinji is probably the biggest cuck. In this situation, his ego is probably just doing backflips thinking "Hell yeah, I got choco from my hot not-sister and her dominatrix servant!"

Meanwhile, Sakura and Medusa are over at Shirou's place fucking his brains out after a nice home-cooked meal.
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>>168570657
You want me to compete with an image that has no context in a quest i've already beaten? You know he never showed off his victory screen, she could have easily come in last turn.
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>>168572687
with a face and body like that, yes.
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I thought I'm a totally straight male, until I fall in love with him
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ded thred
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>>168572772
>Meanwhile, Sakura and Medusa are over at Shirou's place fucking his brains out after a nice home-cooked meal.
Medusa would fuck anyone. (You), Waver, Hakuno, Shirou, she's a slut.

Shirou is seen dating Saber in Taiga's CE while Sakura's alone in Gilles' bar.
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>>168572949
We've seen his screenshots before last turn. You can do the quest again.
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fate/thicc order
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>Got a new phone
>decide to do a single on a new account before transferring my main
>get Quetz immediately

I don't know how to feel. I wasn't planning on keeping this account at all and I feel that I just used up my good luck. But I don't even have Quetz on my main.
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>>168573739
I don't know how many runs he had to do so, but i'm not fucking autistic enough to waste my AP to prove one shit unit is less shit than another shit unit and compete with out of context sceenshots when I gain nothing from doing the quest.
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>>168563005
Are they going to buff Jannu finally?
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>>168572687
For reals though, guda and hoan's face is almost the same and I thought it's KOORU cosing
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>>168562785
Best queen
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>>168565692
>>168565778
It's not coming out until the end of this year. While you still care about GO at that point?

>>168573849
You call that thick?
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>>168562785
Can never approve of the sexualizing but ah well. Can't be helped.
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Richard I when?
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>>168574268
This, we only lick true THICC here.
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>still no reliable Quick Caster
WHEN
H
E
N
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>>168574549
Good taste.
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>>168572626
>got choc from his fucking family, and acts like he's tough
You have shit family if they don't give you choc by obligation, bit that ain't a declaration of love.
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>>168574268
Silly anon,C92 is on June
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>>168574209
I wonder if she does womanly queen things when no one is looking, like drink tea and read Shakespeare.
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>>168574209
explain this queen meme
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>>168573450
JETS is unsure how to respond.
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>>168574603
Avicebron is gonna be Buster gorilla Caster dropping Golems on people.
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>>168574767
Queen Elizabeth got a scar on her face and couldn't appear in public. She switched places with Francis Drake who looked very similar to her every now and then and went on adventures as a pirate.
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>>168574767
There was a detail in the Japanese version of Fate/Extra (don't think it showed up in the English version for whatever reason) that pretty much subtly confirmed that the Francis Drake we have is actually Queen Elizabeth in disguise.
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>>168574767
>oft-mentioned aspect of the Drake mythos is that of his ship, the Golden Hind. Not only was it the flagship of Drake's fleet, it was seen as a symbol of hope and a source of miracles. The exploits the Golden Hind made possible elevated Drake (known and feared by the Spanish as El Draque) to a level on par with King Arthur. Both are said to dwell in Avalon and "across the ocean", the city of the dead, and will eventually return to lead England to true glory.

During what was to be the final confrontation between England and Spain's Invincible Armada, Francis Drake was commissioned as a vice admiral in the English navy. Using an unorthodox strategy involving the use of fire-ships, he forced the Spanish fleet into open water where they could be bombarded with cannon fire.

>In addition - and this is merely literary creation - there is also a story full of romance in which Drake was a companion of Queen Elizabeth and, just before setting sail for the world circumnavigation, switched places with the Queen, who could no longer go out in public due to receiving a wound on her face.
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>>168574693
>memedusa
>family
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>>168574823
I hope he is the next 3* ST Caster.Medea is too unreliable to actually kill a Black Tar or Giant Ghosto,even with that NP spam.
And being 3* mean NP5 is easier to get.
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>>168572198
>a unit meant for strong buster crits and high NP damage with no skills to sustain herself can't solo Goetia
Soloing bosses isn't what Jeanne Alter was meant for, stop this meme
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>>168575109
>>168574889
In Extra, but not in FGO. In FGO, it's Drake 100%,
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>>168574889
The real Elizabeth had scars too, from small pox though. She just covered it with ten pounds of makeup.
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>>168575285
Nobody is saying this isn't the case.
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>>168575285
>They could switch places freely and looked the same almost
>the Queen had the scar
>b-but don't confuse me, I knew exactly which one was which in story, despite how they could switch places and roles entirely in life

Nice meme
Nothing has changed between fgo and extra
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>>168575285
How do you figure? They're literally the same character.
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>>168575214
How would Golem Keter Malkuth even work in GO. Would he just have an Adam off to the side to throw out whenever conveniant. Would it be powered by burning Servants.
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>>168575431
>>168575429
Nowhere in FGO Drake profile, mats or interludes even mention Elizabeth. She's Drake here.

>b-but don't confuse me, I knew exactly which one was which in story, despite how they could switch places and roles entirely in life
If they could switch places and nobody noticed, both had the scar you fucking retard. Drake also has no memories of Extra, hint. While every Extra Servant does meme about it.
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>>168575248
>b-but muh doing enough damage before getting killed
Survivability is a meme amirite :^)
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>>168575863
She can survive and do consistent damage if you support her with the right characters but expecting her to be able to survive on her own isn't reasonable.
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>>168575856

Why are you trying so hard to prove this point in spite of the lack of evidence? Why would you not go with the obvious conclusion that things are the exact same as they were in Extra, because there's nothing to indicate otherwise?
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>>168575791
Maybe
1-activate by sacrificing 1 allies in team,and dealt extremely high damage/Avicebron class change like Hyde along with several other perma-buff
2-They just his RM Eden as support NP
3-Just create some totally new Kabbalah technique and call it a NP
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>>168575856
It barely said anything about her being Elizabeth in Extra either, but there was the one detail there that pretty much confirmed it. Just because it was never addressed again doesn't mean that another instance of her in a different game isn't what she was already confirmed as, because it's the same character. There was proof that she was Elizabeth in Extra, and so the most logical assumption is that she's still Elizabeth in GO because it's the same character and there's nothing to indicate otherwise.
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>>168576089
Because I despise headcanon faggots from Boy's Love like you. Prove she's Elizabeth in FGO. The burden of evidence lies in you when everything in her profile, mats and interlude says she's fucking Drake.

>>168576184
>Just because it was never addressed again doesn't mean that another instance of her in a different game
Yes, it means she's not the same character. Every single character who appeared in Extra recalls the events there and makes a reference on it. But she doesn't.

You're fucking missing the point they were characterized in a different way and that they were physically identical. That's why they could swap. But there's absolutely zero mention of Extrashit in FGO Drake or that she's Elizabeth.
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>>168574694
Only five more months until I can cheat on my Wife (mom) with Scat.
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>lack of evidence is evidence now
These memes are going too far.
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>>168576504
There's evidence she's Francis Drake. There's no evidence that she's Elizabeth aside of a pseudo connection in an already retconned game that she never references.
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>>168576386
You have no proof to support her not being the same character in GO. Just because she doesn't reference Extra isn't proof because by the classical rules of the Throne of Heroes, she shouldn't be able to. The other characters from Extra remembering stuff from Extra is for fanservice reasons, shoutouts to other works. Drake was such a minor character in the beginning of Extra that it makes sense that she doesn't have them. And either way, again, lack of memories doesn't prove anything because no one technically should have them. You have no proof that she's not the same character from Extra, so the simplest explanation is that she is, because they look the same, sound the same, etc. And since there was proof that she was Elizabeth in Extra, it means that she's still Elizabeth in GO.
This is simple logic, why are you having a hard time grasping it?
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>>168576687

rest in peace >>168576386
slayed and spayed.
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>>168576687
So again you have no evidence and are headcanoning? Extra isn't even canon anymore. Again >>168576582

Unless you give me real evidence from a legitimate source that isn't a non canon game, you're just a fanwanking BLfag.
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>>168572198
>Implying most of servants able to solo Goetia.
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>Francis Drake is the first great man who accomplished the circumnavigation while still alive (the very first, Magellan, died midway through). He was a man in historical fact, but Drake appears in this work as a woman. This is caused by the fact how nobody in her surroundings saw Drake as a woman. According to a sailor, 「Ergh, we cannot call ourselves men if we look the captain as a woman; or rather, it would be rude towards her.」

This is how FGO explains why Francis is a woman.
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>>168577050
>At 53 years-old, she died from a plague. It has been said that, right before dying, eccentricities such as trying to wear an armor while confused in sickbed stood out.

By the way. It's not Queen Elizabeth.
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>>168576687
Vlad talks about Mooncell.
Robin talks about Mooncell.
Nursery Rhyme does too.
Nero.
Elizabeth.
Tamamo.
Shuwho.
Andersen.

So why doesn't Drake do it? I'm not that guy but I'm legitimately curious why she's divorced from Extra. Unless she's going to be replaced in Extella/Zero by Medusa, so Nasu just retconned her appearance in Extraworld.
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>>168576962
You can't just scream non-canon and then say you're right because you think the game is non-canon. Show me an official source from the writers that says Extra is non-canon and then I'll believe that argument, but until you have that or something else solid to back up your argument then there's no reason to buy it. There's a solid detail in one of the main series games that confirms who Drake actually is, and there's nothing in GO to indicate that the Drake in GO is any different from the Extra one.
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>>168577247
The Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon S3 collab event will bring /fgog/ back to life.
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>>168577267
Sad, I like Drake over Meduseless
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>>168576962

How is the person bringing up material from the games headcanoning? Wouldn't you, the person plugging your ears and pretending Extra doesn't set a precedent, the one who is relying on headcanon?
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>>168577050
>>168577135
This doesn't give any reason to believe that she's different from the Extra version, which is what the argument is about. Plenty of other characters from works besides FGO have profiles that have nothing to do with their original appearances, especially not passing side details about them, but because it's logical to go with the most simple explanation to a problem, it makes sense to assume that they're the same character unless it's explicitly stated otherwise. Since the little side detail confirmed something about her character that has never since been explicitly noted otherwise, it's still true about her in GO even if her profile doesn't mention it.
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>>168577267
I couldn't give a good reason why Drake is kind of set aside from the rest of the Extra group in terms of fanservice voice lines, maybe she wasn't popular in that appearance and they didn't want to take the time to add those? Not sure. It is rather strange. Still not a reason to believe she's suddenly a different character, though. Not that I think you're arguing with me because you already said you weren't the other anon, just saying.
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>>168577786
None of those two anons but I think we can't really use the fanservice card in this case, since it seems whatever summoning method Chaldea uses don't necessarily obey normal rules so everyone remember most of their other summonings.
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>>168577347
Extra was retconned by Extella as far as we know.

>No, there's "evidence" EXTRA Drake is Elizabeth, while this is FGO Drake background
>>168577050
>>168577135

>and there's nothing in GO to indicate that the Drake in GO is any different from the Extra one.
Their characterizations are completely different, for one. You're assuming that they are the same based on nothing except on the rumor that sometimes she and Elizabeth traded places. Keyword is sometimes. Because in Extra, if you actually caught the hint, SHINJI hacked to make Elizabeth "Drake." Shinji knew she wasn't Drake and details of Servants can be changed with competent Masters.
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>>168577898
Yes, Shinji is the one who addresses her as Elizabeth before he's cut off. This is a waifugame, if Drake wouldn't entrust (you) with her true identity it would mean she likes you less than she liked and trusted Shinji.
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IMMORTAL QUEEN
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>>168577964
>sensei
fuck off reddit
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>>168577898
You heard it, boys. Fate, UBW and HF have been retconned by Hollow Ataraxia. There is totally not multiple timelines. Nope. There has to be only one.
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>>168577898
>Their characterizations are completely different, for
You are talking ahit. Even in extra she talked about how she can be either a hero or villain depending on the money, or her madter. The only difference is she's playing for different roles acting the villain in one. Her characterization itself is the same.
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>>168577607
Again, you're clueless that sprites and stats and all that can be faked by competent hackers in Mooncell. Shinji called his Servant Elizabeth. Nudge fucking Hint. She could have been as much Drake as Jinako is a young girl and Karna, Rin is Brunette, Shinji an adult and Karna a lucky 'Launcher'.
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>>168577267
>Extella 2 happens
>Drake is the new heroine
>Has Robin, Nursery, Vlad, and Andersen on her team

Thing that will never happen.
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>>168578071
Her characterization in Extra is far more villainous and unlikeable than in FGO who is more friendly. Nice to see you dodging the Shinji issue and how Masters and Servants shit can change if the hacker bugs the system somehow. Shinji knew Drake was Elizabeth, called her by her real name.

Well, you know what? Let's pretend she's Elizabeth. It means she doesn't give a fuck about (you) because she never actually told you her real name and identity. She probably tolerates being around because she cares about Mashu and misses her one true Master, shota Shinji.
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>>168577964
Why did Sensei dye her hair?
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>>168578261
>It means she doesn't give a fuck about (you) because she never actually told you her real name and identity

She's the Heroic Spirit Francis Drake. It doesn't matter if she was Elizabeth during her life, when she's "summoned" she's Drake.
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>this thread right now
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>>168568342
Started playing 2 weeks ago, so not many.

5 Star:
MHXA (I rolled THREE of her. Raised her NP up to 3 in the process)
Ozymandias (I heard he was good, going to try to see what I can do with him)
Lancer Artoria (The one I was aiming for)
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>>168577267
>Vlad
is a nutjob who if I'm remembering right, called a crazy clown lady his wife. has a reason.
>Robin
had character development that culminated in the final battle, has a reason.
>Nursery Rhyme
Her character in FGO still resembles alice, plus all the development, has a reason.
>Nero
Took Hakuno as her lover, has a reason.
>Elizabeth
Character development and tsundere feelings towards Hakuno, has a reason.
>Tamamo
See Nero.
>Shuwho
literally can't remember anything about him besides he turns into a berserker. Not even a joke.
>Andersen
Can't think of a reason.
>Drake
Has no reason.
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>>168577530
Same here. I liked Drake a lot.

>>168578223
I know.
On the Drake topic: I can see both sides argument, but I'm leaning on the different Drakes anon because, in my understanding of the original nip game, both Shinji and 'Drake' were meant to be 'fakes' pretending to be someone who aren't. Shinji was a kid, not even Shinji Matou, the sprite was personalized by him. Elizabeth was doing the same. Ah, and yes, Shinji knew who she was.
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>>168577898
>Extra was retconned by Extella as far as we know
>a sequel game that builds upon the ending of Extra makes Extra non-canon
???
You're grasping at straws here, man. Just let it go. Unless you've got something from devs that says "We don't consider this game canon to our multiverse's continued story anymore" then you're just making shit up.
She's the same character, and you have no proof to indicate otherwise than your own headcanon that Extra isn't canon.

>>168578121
>>168578261
And yes, I understand how the Mooncell works, but if she's summoned looking the exact same way in GO as she did in Extra, why is there any reason to believe that she's different? Why would a different version of Drake that's actually Drake not look different if it wasn't the same character? It was obviously a developmental choice when they made GO to make her look the same as she did in Extra to indicate that it's the same character. There's no logically supported reason to believe otherwise.
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>>168578261
Well Elizabeth did almost marry a shota at one point and kept him around her for a couple years.
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>>168578406
>She's the Heroic Spirit Francis Drake. It doesn't matter if she was Elizabeth during her life, when she's "summoned" she's Drake.
Not him, but she could have easily been Heroic Spirit Elizabeth II and Shinji hacked her sprites and stuff upon summon to make her Drake. I'm not that anon, but the point of both characters was that their appearance and everything about them was fake. A lot of Master/Servants carry a theme.
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>>168578415
EKUSUCALIBAA
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>>168572308
To be fair, I've had a genuine problem with the gacha. I don't know why, but every time I tried to pay for it I'd get the google swirling thing followed by a black screen. After the second time, I decided not to roll a paid gacha ever again for fear of losing money. Google was very understanding - and I even called their hotline to ask them what was going on.

It might be because I'm purchasing Yen in Malaysian Ringgit and getting the currency to show as USD. Like the man said - some locked regions have difficulty appropriating it.

I think that Delight Works should just bind your account to your e-mails instead of this ID system.
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>>168578585
>extella
>sequel game
>he doesn't know Nasu retconned Extra and wrote a backstory about Extella/Zero

KEK.

>>168578406
Her real identity is still fucking Elizabeth. BENKEI likes (you) more because he explains he's fake. Guess she's fucking Blackbeard and Andersen behind our backs now, considering she doesn't like (you) at all.
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Guys
Extra is canon
You're just not looking at the context it's implying.
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>>168573739

Not that guy, but hey, I have nothing else better to do anyway.
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>>168578406
You know that's bullshit, because we've seen examples of Servants who aren't the real deal and this is clarified in their profiles, mats or interludes. Benkei, Kojiro, etc. Even Musashi upon her very appearance was established different from this world's Musashi.
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>>168578787
Godspeed.
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>>168578787
First Quintett Feuer ready.
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>>168578697
>Guess she's fucking Blackbeard

She's sodomising him.
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>>168578965
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>>168578697
Maybe I'm ill-informed about the backstory surrounding Extella (nothing to indicate it in the game as far as I've played at least, sumanai), but there's no reason to believe that Nasu completely trashed Extra to make Extella just because he wrote a different backstory. It more just shows that it's a different timeline from the original Extra, the whole thing about different timelines is kind of a big deal in the Nasuverse.
And either way, it doesn't change what Extra established about Drake, so it's a moot point because a new backstory to set up a game without Elizabeth doesn't really change that she's Elizabeth. But I see you're agreeing with me about her being Elizabeth in your other reply so I won't argue with you and instead apologize for not knowing about the other Extella backstory.
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>>168578697
But she's the virgin queen.
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>>168578959
Second.
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>>168578959
Good luck.
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>>168579057
You are. The situation on earth is different, the core theme of the game is different (the opposite of Extra and CCC). The story changed a fucking lot.

I'm making fun of you that if she were truly Elizabeth in FGO, it means she despises and mistrusts us because she told Shinji the truth while she didn't to (you) while Benkei and other Servants do admit they aren't the original Benkei or when there are differences. Nothing on Drake's end, so choose: she dislikes (you) or she isn't Elizabeth. You can only pick one.
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>>168579107
Drake was virgin. Elizabeth was fucking pirates according to the anon's logic.
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>>168579221

At least you can concede that you're wrong and revert to trying to spite him over being right.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>168579423
Glad i stopped following this crap
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>>168579423
They're exhibitionists and/or perverts.
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>>168579423
The currys has no need of under garments
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>>168579294
Either I'm right or he's a cuck, either way I win. Isn't it amazing?
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>>168579423
Some people don't wear underwear, its part of their idealism. Its kinda like how Shirou ideals about saving people, except in this case its about not wearing certain things.

>>168579476
>Manga is crap because it takes something directly from CCC, with Rani being no panties
Okay, but I think your problem might be the source material.
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>>168579163
Forgot Nightingale's NP reduced NP power and used it one turn early.
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>>168579423
they're sluts.
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>>168579535
Valentines confirms all curries are perverts, yes
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>>168579221
Guess I don't understand sarcasm on the internet then.
Well, doesn't matter either way because she's still Elizabeth in FGO. If we're going with the fact that Chaldea's summoning system lets them remember their past summonings, then it makes sense that she wouldn't tell you that because she has a stronger bond with Shinji. I think saying that the fact that she conceals her actual identity means she hates you is a little bit harsh, it just means she doesn't have as strong a bond with you as she does with her other master enough to tell you.

>>168579547
And there's the cuck card. Now I know you're not arguing seriously anymore. What is it with some of you guys and wanting every servant to want your dick?
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http://cms.fate-go.jp/web/2017/7836/
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>>168579595
You're fucked.
Your friend is gonna die.
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>>168579595
Ishtar down
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/7836/
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>>168579547

Not really, but whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
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>>168579710
>>168579717
Moriarty?
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>>168579717
Sherlock? Watson? Moriarty?

We thought Black EMIYA was the main girl this arc since he was on the poster, but it seems not.
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>>168579279
DELETE THIS!

The queen is pure, unlike that whore Joan.
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>>168579717
HOLY SHIT.
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http://cp.fate-go.jp/fate/tamamo_cat/
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>>168579856
I fuckng hate Tamoaoe
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◆公開日時◆
2017年2月下旬から3月上旬予定

◆亜種特異点I、開幕◆
「亜種特異点I 悪性隔絶魔境 新宿 新宿幻霊事件」舞台は、外界と隔絶した監獄の街区。
新たに登場するサーヴァントたちとの手に汗握る戦いが繰り広げられます。

◆開放条件◆
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詳しくは、こちらのお知らせをご確認ください。

CONFIRMED

>>168579856
Shit, this is getting serious, I didn't predict this level of CAT anarchy. That's too much cat, too high level of cat.
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>>168579717
wow that looks like shit, awesome.
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>>168579824
>We thought Black EMIYA was the main girl this arc since he was on the poster, but it seems not.
I fucking told you the 'poster servants' were just fucking bait because they had finished designs so they released them. they did the same shit for the 'poster Servants' for Part 1. I told you Musashit wasn't going to be the helper and you called me delusional. She already got a quest, like Scat she's gonna be a fucking footnote.
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>>168579856
Explain.
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We've entered the age of cat

Non-believers will be purged

Also 12 quartz
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>>168579717
>Watson is a GILF
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>>168579856
>>168579717
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>>168579717
The guy in that picture looks like if he was designed by Hellsing/Drifters mangaka.
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>>168579717
I'm getting a Charles Gordon kind of vibe. I hope I'm wrong though, we don't need another 150 year old Britbong in the throne of heroes unless they are Nightingale tier heroic.
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>>168579715
Medb down

>>168579856
That Cat though.
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>>168579717
Not bad but WHO ?
Design too generic to guess !
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>>168579856
This is almost more exciting than the cool old dude, I've been wanting to see more of the Nine for a long time now
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Translate this heathens, its plot info.
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>>168579717
L U P I N
U
P
I
N
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>>168580108
Support Merlin just will not die.
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>>168580025
twitter event but with lots of cats
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>>168579717
>外界と隔絶した監獄の街区。
>Block of the prison isolated from the outside world.
Heroic Spirit PLISSKEN confrmed
>>
The cuck word is used by the submissive male who cannot handle a strong heroine, the cuck memer looks for validation for his own lack of authority by attempting to undermine the validity of other males by trying to brand them as cucks as well.
The cuck memer is typically of low-IQ and low status, evidently from their tendency to adapt to cancerous memes and echo them like cattle would be herded.
>>
Is there hints in his coat of arms ?
Look kinda british but I'm not expert in those.
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>>168579717
Why so many butterflies.
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>>168579717
Is that a bird or butterfly wings on his shoulder
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>>168580208
shut up we are getting NEWS
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>>168580025
This your first stream? You that newfag? Its Tamamo Cat theme this time. If they get enough viewers then we get the prizes. Its cat day in Japan that day or some shit.
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>>168580254
>stream
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>>168580132
they're not different tails though
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>>168579856
>cat event
>weary old gentleman servant

Please be Randolph Carter. Papa needs a Lovecraft Servant.

>>168580178
Man in the Iron Mask?
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>>168580234
looks like butterflies, yes
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>>168579856
>>168579856
>>168579856
キャッツ!!!キャッツ!!!ヴぇりキャッツ!!!
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>>168580318
so are there any old dudes in history associated with butterflies?
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The story so far, its so clear now
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>>168580294
Oh shit, those are other servants cosplaying as retard cat, I didn't even notice at first
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>"muh old man servant when" shitters finally get what they wanted
>I get to save quartz
good shit
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>>168579717
Sean Connery?
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>yfw they add Karna's "Massive Jumbo Jet Target Shooting" scene in the anime.
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update
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Sakura is the most loyal wife
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>>168579856
Blue cat is Hans?
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>>168580359
You're talking crazy there
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>>168580346
Maybe illusionists ? The most famous is Houdini.
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>they baited with bobmiya and the waifus
>the helpers are going to be a set of dapper old gentlemen for the oijisanfags

Please.
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>>168580430
>nguyen
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>>168580254
>get enough viewers

I have to pay just to not get kicked out. Get enough viewers my arse you fucking dick gobbler, fuck you and Nico's wanking monetization model for jewing so hard off a garbage video streaming site.
Can't watch for shit and will likely have to watch an uploaded version hours later just to watch giggling three-dimensional pigs smear their mucous over each others' respective bodies to appeal to idolfaggot otaku.

I will never get the appeal, but at least my shekel is safe from these jews, for I have noticed their scheme to steal the contents of my wallet and to rob me of my bank.
>>
Release date: Estimated late February ~ early March
Info: The stage is set in a city block that has become a prison isolated from the outside world. Engage in heart-pounding battles with newly appearing Servants.
Requirements: Clear Grand Time Temple Solomon to participate.
More details will be announced on the niconico live stream on 22nd February, 20:30 JST.

Thanks taiboo
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>>168580431
Fuck off worm.
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>>168580448
Second glance made the ones to the immediate sides of actual cat look like medea and atalanta dressed up as cat
I dunno what's going on there then
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>>168580489
no
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>>168580430
this is some prime bait, nice work. Enjoy your (You)
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>>168580508
Isn't it twitter reply like usual ?
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>>168579717
Is it just me or does this guy look like he's drawn by Raita?
Also, I was looking at coats of arms with butterflies and found nothing like that, but it sort of has the cross of St. George on it, so he's probably British.
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>>168580524
>Requirements: Clear Grand Time Temple Solomon to participate.
Fuck, im still at france.
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>>168580508
>he pays to watch streams
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>>168580108
This is so easy once Medb is dead.
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>>168580583
hownew.ru
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>mfw I haven't even started the event yet.
I still have time to farm for the CEs r-right?
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>>168580629
Been around since release. Fuck the story.
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>>168580524
Fuck off reddit.

>While repairing the distorted history, a huge failure occurs.

>A screenplay created by a rejected madness.

>A forgotten myth of the end of the century.

>A murder case of unprecedented scale, has been completed by becoming a subspecies singularity.

>The perfect criminal plan, activate--- O phantom spirit, dance madly on these immoral streets.
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>>168580570
He looks designed by Kohta Hirano because of the eyes and nose.
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>>168580528
>Hanz
>Okita
>Fuck if I know. Quetz?
>Atalanta
>Medea? Dunno
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>>168580638
roll some event CEs and use apples
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>>168580583
It's added permanently so there's nothing to worry about.
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>>168580583
Having problems beating the dragons anon?
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>>168580583
It's not going to go anywhere anytime soon, you can take your time. Although if you don't hurry up you might not be able to participate in the hype of playing on release date and getting spoiled, but if you don't care about that then it doesn't matter how fast you clear the story.
>>
>>168580570
So it's a variant of Saint George cross. I hope he interract with him.

Britsh is mostly confirmed then or russian. Maybe a member of the order of the Jarretière.
Someone know any famous member, probably from Victoria era ?
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>>168580668
I think you might be talking shit.
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>>168580668
I wonder how many events you've missed on top of missing the 30 free quartz for everyone who beat Babylon before Solomon.
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>>168574603
I think the most likely Servant to turn out to be a Quick Caster would be Semi. At least, I'd much rather she be a Quick Caster than yet another Arts Assassin.
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>>168580606
And done.
That was disappointingly easy.
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>>168580817
Im not actually. I have 4 accounts and none of them are past camelot. I fucking hate doing the story.
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>>168580570
The lines, face and shading remind me of Kintoki Rider, yeah.
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>>168580668
>"Fuck I'm still at France, I'm gonna miss the new story chapter!"
>"Fuck the story I haven't played it despite allegedly playing the rest of the game for over a year"
I don't buy that.
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>>168580583
Don't rush, savor the story. This is a permanent addition, not an event.
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>>168580668
What were you doing during all the month of nothing ?
Why didn't you follow the hype at each chapter ? Don't you like quartz and mats ?
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>>168580570
>Same nose
>Same marks on the face
>Same coloring
It's Raita.
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>>168580975
>hype of each chapter

Fuck the story quests, they're not worth playing.
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>>168580767
Peter II, Emperor of Brazil was one, but desu as much as I want for that brazilian anon's dreams to come true, I doubt he gets in
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>>168580863
>didn't post their command spells
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>>168580975
Logging on, getting the daily bonuses and playing the events that i could. The story quest is a drag.
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>>168580863
>takes MHXA 40+ to clear
>Illya doesn't even break 40

Illya confirmed better unit. MHXAfags BTFO.
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>>168581047
Yes, the list of member is pretty insane in fact. Almost all monarch were members, even the emperors of Japan were members.
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>>168581052
Uh, sure.
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>>168581052
there's literally like 9 shots of them, fuck off
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>>168580767
fucking Franz Josef desu

Fuck, I could see it from the appearance.
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>>168581014
>Those face lines
Yeah it's RAITA.
Raita should just draw men and stop drawing women already.
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Talking about Raita servant or Ilya. Lets remember the true hero here for a bit.
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>>168581182
Franz Ferdinand too. But not servant tiers.
His NP would be to die to start a massive war.
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>>168580570
The cross is diagonal, so it should be St. Patrick's cross instead?
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Interesting that Caster Cu was chosen to represent the husbando side to Kiyo's waifu side. Both are free giveaways too.
>>
http://www.fate-go.jp/eor/
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>>168581182
>His domains were then ruled peacefully for the next 45 years, although Franz Joseph personally suffered the tragedies of the execution of his brother, Maximilian in 1867, the suicide of his only son and heir, Crown Prince Rudolf in 1889, and the assassination of his wife, Empress Elisabeth in 1898.

Jesus fuck he has everything to be an E-rank luck Lancer
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J. Ridden saavanto when?
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>>168579717
>Vaguely Revolver Ocelot-esque oyaji servant
Be still, my heart.
>>
>>168581401
>St. Patrick's cross
>Sr. Patrick is mostly related to the Irish
>Moriarty is an Irish surname

Fuck!
>>
Guys I think it's Carl Jung.
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>>168581401
Diagonal cross is St Andrew no ?
The red and white don't strike me as St Patrick.
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>>168581516
St Andrew's cross is pretty much Scotland's flag
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>>168581405
What if the Servants in that promo are the antagonists?
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>>168581504
>Moriarty
Fanart of Moriarty fucking Sherlock when?
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>>168581504
That's the Jarretière coat of arm right ?
Beside the colour, it's not really similar. But for Nips, it may be enough.
Pretty sure his coat must exist though.
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>>168580140
>Much things you missed, when trying to mend the twisted history.
>A play made by the rejected madness.
>A forgotten legend of the end of the century.
>A never before seen scale of mass murder, has become a completed Sub Singularity.
>The perfect crime plan, activated - Phantoms, dancing mad at the wicked street.

I want more DDD
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>>168581504
>>168581597
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham_University
>The "smaller university" involved has been claimed to be one of the colleges that later comprised the University of Leeds;[6] but in Sherlock Holmes: The Unauthorized Biography, the "smaller university" is said to be Durham University.[7]

Moriarty fucking confirmed.
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>>168581571
Are we getting closer ?
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>>168581504
it might be an inspiration from the crozier's coat of arms
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>>168581516

St. Patrick's cross is actually like that. Combined with Scotland's St. Andrew cross and England's St. Geroge the form the Union Flag
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I'm not really excited for any of the new servants from 1.5.
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>>168581401
I didn't even know that. That's probably more likely.

Butterfly in Heraldry apparently symbolizes "Psyche or Soul". Moriarty wasn't a Professor of Psychology or some shit, was he?
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>>168580606
Why did you kill Sanzo before 3-turn NP Serenity
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>>168581405
Sakura is in here some where right?
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>>168581672

Ok
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>>168581597
>>168581596
>>168581558
>>168581516
I am rather convinced about the Saint George thing because George actually has the cross on his costume, meaning that is a piece of visual symbolism already familiar to the creator.

please let there be ruler george I would spend money
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I want that loli Salem witch
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>モリアーティの容貌について >彼はすこぶる背が高く痩せていて、白くカーブを描く突き出た額を持ち、深く窪んだ眼をしている。ひげは綺麗に剃られ、青白く、苦行者のようであり、顔立ちにおよそ教授らしきものを漂わせている(Wikiより) Fateにおいて外見情報なんて当てにならないがな!

Japanese fans are certainly coming up with theories
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>>168581672
I haven't been excited for any new servant for like a year or two.
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>>168581672
Ok
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>>168581692
>turn 112
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>>168581717
That's the best part of Fate returning. They should hid the servant identity untill the last minutes at each release.
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>>168581413
>Not the Trump Ridden

one job you had, m8
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>>168581672
>None of them really revealed
>At most we have vague image of a few
>90% of them unrevealed
>No actual info
>"They're all shit and I'm not interested preemptively"

Amazing statements anon, very valid. Tell me what other books you hate based on the cover next.
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>>168581504
>they'll turn moriarty into a dindu
Hahaha wow
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>>168581692

Instant death RNG aside, Serenity does way less damage.
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Why is he so hot, anons?
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>>168581676
If my memory serves me well, Moriarty was supposed to be a math man
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>>168581920
Valentines 2018 can't come fast enough.
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>>168581845
10000000% confirmed to be moriarty already it seems, and 1000% confirmed that he's dindu somehow

Ain't like we don't already have servants that do terrible shit.
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>>168581504
>Moriarty confirmed
Predict his NP and skills, fgog
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>>168581920
Is a Moriarty trait
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>>168581717
They're just working backwards, coming up with "reasons why he's Moriarty" instead of working from the image (It bothers me that the butterfly thing hasn't been convincingly addressed). That's also a valid form of logic and in this case they're probably correct so I can't blame them.
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Who's voicing holmes? Is it Amuro's VA? I want Amuro-Holmes and Char-Moriarty.
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>>168581997
NP: Perfect Crime - Sealed Room Murder
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>>168581997
> Not his class first.

Will we finally get a 2nd non-limited SSR Assassin.
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>Holmes is a bishounen
>Moriarty is a GILF
>Watson is probably a genderbent cutie to balance shit
I'm okay with this, Holmes is a bit too hot though. Moriarty is pretty cool though.

>>168581997
Predict his class too.
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>>168581997
guts and guts and evasion

it would be cool if they gave him Scapegoat

>final boss is moriarty and lvl 100 george with half a million hp
>moriarty scapegoats him on the off-taunt turns
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>>168582053
>non-limited
He's going to be limited.
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>>168581920
I want to invite this Gentleman to my Chaldea.
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>>168581924
>Even in the Sherlock Holmes books, Arthur Conan Doyle has not disclosed the name of the university, but only refers to him as a mathematician, which makes him Professor of Mathematics. In The Final Problem, Doyle, briefly refers to the university as "one of our smaller universities", but never gives away the name of the university.
>In Sherlock Holmes: The Unauthorized Biography, which was published in 2006, and is a non-canonical Sherlock Holmes pastiche novel, the author refers to the University as Durham University. Nonetheless, this is his take. Arthur Conan Doyle, never disclosed the University.
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>>168582039
Butterflies are associated with death and we are dealing with a murder mystery in this next chapter, that's the only related thing I can think of
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>>168582018
So Sakurai confirmed for Shinjuku?
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>>168581617
>>168582052
Could be a RM
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>>168582084
>Limited Servant promoting a story chapter
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>>168572626
hes so based and handsome i wish he would fuck me
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>>168581504
>Moriarty
Nah. He's Doyle.
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>>168581980
It's gonna be Adam Worth, the model of Moriarty.
Nasu is enough of a mad man.
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>>168581980
The problem is Sakurai spent many works already saying he's the worst kind of scum possible. Like the embodiment of fucking crime. So maybe he's going to be a necessarily evil vs the hero of justice who is the bad one.
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>>168582043
Shit, Shuichi Ikeda dandy old man is certain to get the whales rolling.
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>>168582138
Why not both? What if Doyle is really just a pen name of Moriarty?
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>>168582138
>Doyle was Moriarty all along
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>>168582138
>Mustache
>Butterflies
Fuck. I like this.
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>>168582107
That's a reasonable thought, but a symbol of death and rebirth isn't something that makes me think "Ah! That's Moriarty without a doubt!" I'm still not secure in my reasoning.
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>>168581883
Fair enough, you're running three Casters. I wasn't sure how lenient rotating two Merlin invulns were

>>168581773
I had a backup plan if things went south
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>>168582039
Yeah I wanna know what's up with the butterflies. My first impression of the dude with the whole prison island or whatever was that he was some sort of cop.
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>>168582067
>Watson is probably a genderbent cutie to balance shit
He's a guy in the Jekyll story. Sakurai avoids genderbending unless Nasu orders (which happened with Merlin apparently).

>Holmes is a bit too hot thoug
Are you gay?
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>>168582253
To be more exact, I feel his design is a bit too pretty for some reason.
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>>168582138
Helena talks about doyle in materials and in one of her myroom lines so why not
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>>168582104
So Mathematics are truly evil hu?

>>168582138
>>168582215
>>168582189
>>168582212

I can totally see this happening
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>>168582138
>Moriarty was Conan Doyle
SAKURAIIIII
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>>168582080
He's in the banner, he's not the final boss, he's our main helper.
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>>168582317
After Da Vinci, why would you be surprised.
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>>168582305
Conan Doyle was Irish himself, wasn't he?
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Summarize this Moriarty for me please.
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Magic bullet, transforming man, phantom, cry below the moon, hero of justice, empress of puppets
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>>168582317
>>168582212
>>168582189

Actually I would like that twist.
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>>168582112

It looks like so unless everybody in this thread is assuming. Funny thing that Sakurai gets to write some of the characters she did on her steampunk series.

Collab when
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>>168582394
Sherlock Holmes' greatest rival who almost managed to kill him.
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>>168582317
After Attila-alien this shit is actually sound reasonable.
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>>168582394
He >>168579717 is Conan Doyle >>168582138 Who might be Moriarty >>168581504
>>168582104
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>>168582392
He was born in Scotland but he was of Irish Catholic descent and raised in that faith thanks to his Irish mother

It all comes together
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>>168582407
Emiya, Werewolf, Moriarty, Werewolf, Emiya, Touko
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Why is Conan Doyle/Moriarty so hot and classy?
Why is Sherlock such a fuckboi?
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>>168582138
This seems most likely. The fairies are enough to explain the butterfly wings for me.
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>>168582394
The Napoleon of Crime. All Crimes in the World, Sakurai calls him in the Jekyll's story.
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>>168582502
How can a brit be this based in genalogy ?
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>>168582394
Just watch the movie.
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>"The Final Problem" was intended to be exactly what its name says. Conan Doyle meant to stop writing about his famous detective after this short story; he felt the Sherlock Holmes stories were distracting him from more serious literary efforts and that "killing" Holmes off was the only way of getting his career back on track.
>Conan Doyle was speaking literally and tried to wrestle him off a waterfall as Moriarty to continue his criminal activities unhindered
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>>168582521
>Moriarty is a GILF
>Sherlock is a fuckboi
What about Watson? Is he gonna be a shota?
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>>168582536
True Napoléon when ?

Epic is about fictions so probably not soon.
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>>168582521
They are designed for doujins.
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>mfw no Orion and Artemis to give tasukete choco.
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>>168582590
He is probably a shota or a genderbent genki girl.
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>>168582521
To make me feel bad about not having quartz
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>>168582590
He sounds like a regular dude in Jekyll story (from his POV).
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>>168582635
>genderbent genki girl.
It's a guy and an adult. He already has a canon appearance in "A Study of the Color of the Raven's Feathers." You're forgetting Sakurai is in charge and Sakurai despises to genderbent shit unless she's told to.
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>>168582630
I wish I had the TASUKETE CE so bad
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>>168582732
>Sakurai despises to genderbent shit unless she's told to.
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Do you think Berserker Jekyll might appear and Moriarty forces him as his servant/lackey and permanently in Hyde/Werewolf form for that sweet double irony
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>>168582732
What if we're getting an alter (genderbent) lily version?
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>>168582812
Seibah?
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>>168582812
ONE genderbent vs Nasu's entire collection.
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>>168582814
Can't wait for the doujins
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>>168582814
>we get furry Jekyll before furry Prisma Cu
Fuck off
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>>168562785
Cirno here,

Any translator around who would like to contribute anything?

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/craft_essence_valentine.php

I'm getting sick of seeing CE text for days, I can't do all this alone.
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>>168582858
>One

Anon do you even Steampunk
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Which one should I watch, BBC show with Cumberpack or movies with RDJ?
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>>168582814
*4 Berserker Hyde/Jekyll is likely.
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>>168582925
Looking pretty damn good so far.
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>>168582904
Prisma Cu isn't even a character, anon.
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>Doyle is a caster
>full name is Arthur Conan Doyle
Finally, a caster Arthur.
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>>168568342
Started playing in January.
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>>168583049
>inb4 Avenger.
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>>168583049
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>168582925
isn't all the new ones already translated by the facebook guy?

Because I am sure it is.

here the link
fb.com/groups/fatego/permalink/662202983963454
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>>168582978
Definitely the movies with RDJ. Guy Ritchie is a fantastic director.
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>>168583049
>Moriarty confirmed, Connan Doyle will be GB and a saberface.
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>>168582978
READ THE BOOKS YOU ILLITERATE NIGGER
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So if it's Moriarty, then why the hell is he a helper?
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>>168568342
Just 10. Gilgamesh, Nero Bride, Edmond, Jeanne, Scathach, Drake, Old Man, and unwanted crap like Attila, Tamamo and poo in the loo Archer.
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>>168583150
He's either a dindu or we're gonna get played like a damn fiddle.
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>>168583150
Because he's a necessary evil and Nigger Emiya is fucking up the balance in favor of Justice over Crime.
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>>168583148
>reading shitty books
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>>168583150
It's probably Conan Doyle, but the intro text implies Moriarty has a hand in things.
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>>168582978
Movie since it's faster.
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>>168583150
He need to be with us for his keikaku.
Or it's not Moriarty. Or we play the bad guy by necessity.
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>>168583150
Remember Round Table Knights in banner?
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>>168583150
>get transported to prison island
>get attacked by ruffians
>mysterious dude helps you out
>"Call me 「Conan Doyle 」"
>convinces you Bobmiya is evil and you help him eliminate him
>now there's nothing in his way
>"Actually I'm Moriarty and I run this shit"
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>3* Berserker Hyde
>NP change him into werewolf
DW please
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>>168583205
AYO HOL UP SO YOU BE SAYIN WE WUZ SOME MUTHAFUKIN SEIGI NO MIKATA AN SHIEEET?
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>Sakurai writing Sherlock Holmes adventures
This is either going to suck or be really fucking good
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>>168583370
Prison island you say ?
It's Edmond times !!!
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>mfw Shinjuku is more London-like than London singularity
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>>168583471
She already dipped her fingers in it in the Jekyll short story

Its probably going to be the good kind of sakurai works. Hell this is the shit shes used to writing
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>>168582978
If you need to watch it, go for the movies. The show is shite.
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>>168583148
I would be a lot more interested in books if I was living in the shitty pre-internet era with no movies or games or animu.
Would people choose instant gratification over literature these days when you're surround by so many forms of entertainment? Unless it's for educational purposes which would fit under a different topic of discussion.
It can't be helped that modern society has granted meme status to books, we are literally programmed by rich businessmen who would rather us consume shitty movies and video games than books.
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>>168582978
milky holmes
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>>168582978
RDJ movies, Moran and Moriarty are really cool in the second one.
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>>168583648
Maybe she'll go all Shikkoku no Sharnoth on this.
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>>168582978
Show, then drop it at the end of season 2.
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Why are anti-Extrafags so retarded?
>blatantly ignore Drake being called Elizabeth
>call a game that's consistently brought up in GO non-canon
>use evidence that Drake doesn't remember Extra unlike every other Servant but calls Extra non-canon anyway
>wow fuck off with your headcanon
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Is Sakurai, dare I say, /ourguy/?
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>>168583731
EXTRA is not Fate. Take your shitty non-canon trash and fuck off.
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>>168583694
So Conan Doyle is not only Moriarty but is also giving his body to the not-so-evil side of Nyarlathotep who will fall for (You) in his own autistic way? Because I'm totally ok with that.
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What did Helena said about Doyle and Holmes in the unreleased line?
Something something SPR?
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>>168567750
Does that mean Saint George can be a ruler?
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>>168583731
Even in Extra it's not confirmed. Stop shitposting now.
Wait for Victoria order where Drake will interract with other brits royalty for proof.
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>>168583684
I'm prepared to be disappointed for TM to not cast Suwabe as Holmes
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>>168581920
Reminds me of Vincent Price. Wonder if Moriarty will find a way to become a major threat, kinda like in Shikkoku no Sharnoth, where he was the one who brought Nyarlatothep into the human world.

Too bad that I have to wait more for Alter Egos (mainly Meltlilith), but at least I'm a sucker for Sherlock-related stuff.
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http://www.fate-go.jp/eor/
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What if the GILF is Holmes and the guy we met in Camelot was secretly Moriarty all along?
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>>168583838
Can one of the saintliest saint be in the saint class ?
Seriously, Georges was supposed to be the ruler in apocrypha but he was too redondant with Siegfried.
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>>168583918
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>>168579717
Holy shit, news. I thought they were a myth at this point.
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>>168583802
Something like she knows they're not bad guys but is troubled because Doyle was in the SPR.
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>>168583731
/fgog/ is too autistic to handle ambiguity. The idea that she "might" be Elizabeth triggers people on both sides, so we end up with everyone arguing that either she DEFINITELY IS Elizabeth or that THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S NOT CANON.

Personally, I like to believe that she is, because I think that's more fun, but by the same token I think it's also more fun if we don't know that for sure
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>>168583731
Drake isn't called Elizabeth. Shinji calls her El- then is cut off

Drake is also known as El Draque
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>>168583274
Bedi was the one in front, and Lancelot joined (you).
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>>168584048
Drakes order having not even one slight implication of her being secretly Elizabeth pretty much sinks it tbqh

She's probably never going to be in anything ever again either
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>>168582978
This >>168583684
If you are not gonna read the books, you might as well just enjoy mindless fun.
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>>168583918
He has "holmes" in the character presentation of the event so I doubt it.
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>>168584129
Now see, even though I fall on the other side, I'll acknowledge that as a solid argument.

Sadly most of the general can't handle stuff like that since it's meta-evidence instead of anything textual, and they've got to have everything spelled out for them exactly
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>>168584071
Him calling her Elizabeth sounds more likely than him calling her by a formal title.
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>>168583921
Rider. Not Ruler.
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>>168582978
Watch Elementary you shitter
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>>168582978
Seconding >>168584390. It changes things up more than some of the others, but that makes it more interesting, in my opinion.
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>>168584048
>more headcanon
Nobody cares about your shitty fanfic ideas. Just fuck off.
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>>168584306
I don't think anyone is disputing Extra Drake is Elizabeth, we're wondering if FGO Drake is the same Heroic Spirit or is the true Francis Drake. Because if they could switch whenever they want to, they must have been identical physically. Shinji was a fake Shinji whose real appearance wasn't even the one by the game sprite. It's not like information and appearances or even classes didn't get fucked in Mooncell in the hands of good spiritron hackers.
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>>168584306
It's a formal title both Shinji and Drake use once her identity is revealed so not really.
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>>168584390
>watching the Americanized young adult drama version of Holmes

Is it Murica hours already?
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>>168582253
What are you talking about, Merlin is a guy.
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>>168583846
Don't get me wrong, evidence isn't confirmation. It just serves to show that it wasn't headcanon pulled out of someone's ass.
>>168584048
I like to believe that, if Drake isn't Elizabeth, at least that myh is the reason Drake is female. We've seen it happen with Quetz with a more vague connection to a female goddess of the same planet as him.
>>168584071
What does he say in Japanese? I imagine there's a difference between エリ and エー (or however else El is written in Katakana).
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>>168584530
Not Proto-Merlin
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>>168584530
Fragments/Proto Merlin is a woman.
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>>168584530
>Merlin is a guy.
Not in Prototype.
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>>168582814
Only if Jekyll is shirtless in one of the stages.
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>>168584527
Elementary is actually way less aimed at the young adult audience then Sherlock is. It's better too since the cases have actual logical answers instead of "oh he just solved it".
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>>168584306
You're giving Nasu way too much credit. Drake was the very first boss in the game, there was little to no question about who she was because Shinji was basically giving out all the information himself. There's no secret behind her persona, she's Francis Drake. If she was someone else, there would've been a hint at least.
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>>168582138
Reminder that in Nasuverse, Watson's stories were given to Conan Doyle for him to publish instead of Conan Doyle writing it.
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>>168584440
No headcanon there, anon. The game itself brings up the possibility, and doesn't provide an explicit answer. All I did was state which side of the argument I prefer.
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>>168584719
>doesn't provide an explicit answer.
So it's literally just something you made up, got it.
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>>168584703
The need to make fictions real in Nasuverse can be a bit annoying.
It really decrease the value of the authors. Kinda like looking down on them. What worth do they have if they just diffuse someone else stories ?
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>>168584703
>Watson gave the stories to Moriarty all this time

Moriarty is the true Master of Ruses
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>>168584559
>>168584561
>>168584564
Ah my tiny mind can't keep track of everything.

Btw I've noticed that the Tropes page for Archers has an entry for Calamity Jane, when was she announced?>>168584564
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>>168584497
>I don't think anyone is disputing Extra Drake is Elizabeth
I do. I'm completely convinced that the Elizabeth hook was put in there as oh it's fine she's a girl because there was a rumour Drake and Elizabeth were the same person.

The entirety of the idea comes from a couple of lines that aren't actually in the story itself and it's not referenced in any Extra mats or outside sources. Additionally, if Drake was hiding a secret like that CCC would have been a really good time to bust it out but she got cut.

This idea that Extra and GO Drake are two different people is just really, really bad damage control. Not even Nasu damage control, random anon damage control.
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Why are the return gifts so girly? Flowers? Earrings? Bracelet? Bridal headpiece? Make up?
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>>168584614
I don't care much for the current BBC Sherlock either, but claiming Elementary lacks soap opera drama is a load of bullshit.
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>>168584802
Calamity Jane was the golden card placeholder in the early datamines. She wasn't named nor anything but she was dressed like some sort of circus girl holding guns and her name was on the servant datamine list so not many choices to pic from
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Reminder that the best Sherlock Holmes "adaptation" is A Game of Shadows
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>>168584780
The Drake/Elizabeth story is brought up in the Japanese version of Extra, anon. They don't say that it's true, but it's brought up as a possibility.
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>>168584839
Because this event was made for the female audience of Fate.
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>>168584860
Young adult drama =/= soap opera drama

Elementary has drama sure but it's not aimed at the group most commonly referred to as the young adult audience which is what Sherlock is aimed at.
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Detective Conan > Sherlock Holmes
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>>168584787
What about Shakespeare? Did characters like Romeo, Hamlet and Macbeth exist for real too or are they still his writings?
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>>168584839
guns, cities, weapons...
Really girly...
But you know return gift are mostly aimed at girl normally.
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>>168584793
>Holmes and Moriarty is actually split personalities of Conan and watson is just giving him ideas for the split personalities to act out

Would they pull something like this?
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>>168584839
Unrivaled gave me a sword.
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>>168584839
>Make up?
Who gives you make up?
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>>168584897
B-but I wanted the guys to like me.
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>>168584559
>>168584561
>>168584564
So she must be one hell of a semen demon considering how much regular Merlin wants to fuck around.

How did Arthur handle her?
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>Doyle/Moriarty soon
>no quartz left

fug
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>>168584787
The debate of whether there was a real Dr. Watson or not is around for nearly a century, anon.
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>>168584871
Interesting, seems like I've to catch up on a lot of things.
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>>168584964
I can see Nasu doing this
But make Watson an alien from another dimension
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>>168584964
Well there is a story that kind of did that already so why not
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>>168584787
It's done out of jealousy. Nasu and the rest know that they are nothing compared to real authors so they reduce them to people that just got their success handed to them so that they feel better about themselves. It's really fucking pathetic.
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>>168584942
Young adult audience = the CW crowd. That's Elementary's target market and it's the same histrionics you see in soap operas.
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>>168584986
Gawain. At least the Gudako version has him saying that he'd fuck you, but it would be embarassing if any of the other Knights found out, so he'll pretend it's Gareth's birthday.
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>>168584884
>The Drake/Elizabeth story is brought up in the Japanese version of Extra
Is it? I know Arcsys did some really funky translations with the profiles, which is where that info comes from.
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>>168585052
Oh please, nothing is more insulting than white washing Karna literally and of his crimes.
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>>168584947
To be fair, the trick you can do with Shakespeare is that a lot of his stuff was built on existing stories/legends, he just refined them and adapted them into plays.

Like, Hamlet is an adaptation of an older character named Amleth, so an Amleth/Hamlet servant would be totally viable.
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>>168585117
Musashi
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>>168579717
Why does he look so much better than Holmes?
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>>168585053
Modern soap operas aren't aimed at young adults, they are aimed at stay at home parents. Young adult audience is shit like Dr. Who and Walking Dead.
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>>168584964
Well there's the thing of some criminal addressing Jekyll with the moniker only Holmes and Watson used.
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>>168585175
In nearly every portrayal Moriarty was the "daddy uwu" type.
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>>168585117
Fuck off Arjuna. And learn how to write.
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>>168585053
Not that anon, but I feel like Elementary goes for the slightly older audience that's into police procedurals. It draws more from that than from the pure drama-fests on CW (not that it doesn't have its share of drama, but I feel like the underlying structure is different)
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>>168585194
What if Moriarty is actually Watson?
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>>168579717
>expect Sigurd or Achilles
>get irrelevant low tier, trash that everyone will forget in a few weeks
Thanks DW.
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Her ass looks smaller now
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>>168583838
He is basically the last remaining candidate that can definitely be a ruler but isn't. After that, any new ruler will have to be a new character.

George has legit Divinity for fuck's sake, Martha and Jeanne don't even have that. Unless that is what disqualified Karna in the first place. George is Earth, meaning he might not be a real person.

another issue is that they will never release ruler george because then his tankiness could collapse unto itself and create a neutron star of 0 FUCKING DAMAGE

george badly needs an actual dragonslayerbuff on something though, no matter how minor, and this would be a way to implement it, so ruler george is likely going to be completely offensive
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>literally every single author referenced in the Nasuverse thus far just wrote down some dudes life story and published it
So Nasu not only self inserts as the most important ever with the perfect waifu, all other authors are trash tier
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>>168585280
>Sigurd
We are not going to get him until the swordsmen chapter.
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>>168585062
It's what I've heard, and people were saying that earlier in the thread. To be fair, I don't have an actual source to confirm it.
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>>168585256
Yeah, Elementary reminds me a bit more of Law & Order with a bit of Dr. House

>>168585297
Actually Andersen is the only one of the nasuverse's three big authors -that fables guy and the Grimm brothers- who did completely original works
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>>168585280
>expect Sigurd or Achilles
>in the crime mystery modern Tokyo chapter
I know this is just bait but please put some effort into it
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>Hector says (you) are Troy
>gives you a miniature of the trojan horse

Might as well give us a condom to be more subtle.
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Went on BL, looking to see if they cared about F/EoD, thinking it was up there alley of autism. I got nothing other then a few posts of the redesigned characters in their respective fanclubs, asking about what it was in some replies, no thread or anything. Their reputation of Fate autism has faltered.
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>>168585289
Rider Martha has divinity no ?
Jesus divinity but still the skill divinity.
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>>168585154
What about her?

>>168585231
Listen anon all the characters had their faults, but Nasu making Karna as the only Saint in that whole affair pisses me off.
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>>168585368
Just wait for 5* Little Mermaid and 4* Matchstick Girl in that fiction becoming real chapter of EoR.
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>>168585410
Yeah, divinity C
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>>168585406
>caring about fanfiction
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>>168585406
we need another gamecreater16
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>>168585368
So you're sayin in the Nasuverse even the Brothers Grimm and Aesop and fake hacks?
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>>168585513
The Grimms and Aesop adapted folk stories
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>>168585457
Fisction being servant isn't always an issue.
Nursery rhyme is that without making Lewis Carrol an hack.
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It would be really funny to me if Drake was supposed to be Elizabeth and was supposed to be a really important character further down the line but she was so unpopular Nasu just scrapped it.
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>>168585431
Karna was also the only one to appear for years, and now we have a grand total of two whole characters from the Mahab, neither of which is actually portrayed as a bad guy. I guarantee that if we get more Mahab guys, they'll be good guys too. It sounds to me like you're just mad that Karna's portrayed as better than Arjuna which isn't even all that uncommon in India itself nowadays.
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>>168585502
I wanted to see if BL cared abut fanfiction, but it seems they only care about their own fanfiction.
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>>168585410
huh, she does

George has it on his Apocrypha sheet but not in GO (probably because +150 damage would actually be a big deal on him).
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>>168585289
Karna was disqualified how? By having divinity?
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>>168585551
In the Nasuverse all fiction is real. Except an actual Kojirou.

Doesn't Lewis Carrol get totally called out as a hack by someone? I think it's Helena.
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>>168585598
Karna is disqualified because you need to be a Saint for the abrahamic religions I think
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>>168585590
Martha divinity come from how close to Jesus she was. She knew him alive.
She even bear a staff he gave her.

Wonder if George divinity is scrapped or if he was just that saintly. Though all saint are supposed equal.
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>>168585660
Old Man Ruler when
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>>168585578
If you bother to read what I wrote properly, I said that I'm not that Karna was whitewashed of his sins.

For fucks sake, he killed Arjuna's son dishonorably and showed him no mercy, yet he asked Arjuna when his chariot got stuck.
Even Krishna got so mad that he told Arjuna to take the shot and kill him.
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>>168585629
A-at least he stay a good mathematician ! Right ?

Seriously, is there a single author, except maybe Hans, thaisn't a hack in Nasuverse ?
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>>168585660
>>168585598
One of Karnas mats says he can be a Ruler because he's basically a Saint since he's so pure and good but it was only mentioned in that one mat

You already don't need to be canonized by any religion, which is literally the only actual indicator that someone is a saint, so there isn't really an issue with it.
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>>168585684
Does Islam have saints? I think that goes against their rules
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>>168585297
Do you read?
Because that's not so uncommon, people are a lot of time inspired by real life events, Dumas is prime example of someone who inspired himself with real life stories and adapted them.

>>168585629
No, she only says she doesn't like him or NR because he was part of the group that called her a liar.
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>>168585774
They used to have multiple gods and females goddess a long time ago.
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>>168585598
Don't know, he wasn't enough of a saint. Maybe you straight up need to be christian.

What I mean is that Martha is Man and Jeanne is Stars, but George is Earth, so he might be closer to a natural spirit or a fictional person. Which would justify him having Divinity, because demigods and such typically have that. But if Martha has it too then it's a non-issue.
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>>168585774
It depends on what sect you follow but yes, there are Muslim Saints.
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>>168585732
I hate it when people think of the Mahab as black and white. They were both flawed. It was a never-ending cycle of no-good revenge and submission that ultimately did nothing for all parties involved.
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>>168567447
This art style looks familiar.
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>>168585774
Not exactly saints, it goes against the rules normally.
But there is few "exceptions" : the Prophet to begin is a holy man. The Califes too are kinda holy. Sometimes, sultans too, like Saladin.

And in some currents, there are "soufi", wich are holy wise men and the tumbs can be venered too.
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>>168585749
Philosophers can't exactly rip off real life, so them?

Unrelated to that, but Lucian would be fun to see.
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>>168585749
Most of them, they actually wrote the books with their own hands and widespread the stories.
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>>168585858
Wait you're not the same guy who first responded to me are you?

Anyway I'm glad someone gets it, Nasu making Karna a saintly hero ruins the whole point of it.
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>>168585660
You don't. Whenever it says "saint" they're not using it in the literal Christian sense unless it's being used to describe an actual canonized Saint. Karna's described as a saint multiple times by multiple sources, like materials books and Jeanne.

>>168585732
You clearly aren't very familiar with the Mahab then, because Karna didn't kill Abhimanyu. It was Dussasana's son that killed him. Karna at most only ever fired an arrow to cut Abhimanyu's bowstring, and in some versions immediately gave him a sword afterwards to defend himself. Krishna provoked Arjuna into killing Karna by enraging him with what Karna had said about Draupadi and the part he'd played in Abhimanyu's death, but Karna never actually killed him.

You also seem to be forgetting that by that point, the Pandavas had already cheated multiple times, including Arjuna using a woman as a human shield because he knew Bhishma wouldn't risk hitting her.
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Hidari servant when?
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http://cp.fate-go.jp/fate/tamamo_cat/

Has the cat been breeding like crazy behind our backs?
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>>168585836
>>168585847
>>168585893

I stand corrected
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>>168585837
I think Georg is earth because his mother is stated to be a witch.
Some story also say that he is the reinterpretation by christians of an older god.
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>>168585831
Being inspired by real events is not the same as outright just copying them. Doyle used real world experience and drew from that to create fiction, because he was a good author. Now he's just a biographer. Same shit with Dumas and Shelley and who knows who else.
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>>168584943
Adult Shiho best girl
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>>168585917
Karna being good is part of the whole grey nature of the Mahab. He's the guy who should have been a splendid, righteous hero, but because of his mother's distrust of the gods and the Pandavas treatment of him, he ended up allied with the bad guys because they were the only ones who accepted him.

Nasu making Karna a saintly hero doesn't ruin it at all, because no matter what he still allied with Duryodhana and willingly fought against the side of good.
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>>168586013
He's not even a biographer. He's now just a publishing agent.
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>>168585289
If they add Ruler George, you will be that he is't so strong in lore.
Nasu won't allow any ruler who is stronger than Martha aka his current waifu.
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>>168586107
Rider George is more OP then Ruler Martha though
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>>168585919
Yes you're right that Karna technically didn't kill him himself but he was still involved, and wasn't blameless in that incident.

I don't actually recall anything about a woman, I know Yudhishthira lied and Bheema got his son to use his supernatural powers on mortal soliders.

It's been years since I read it though, but my main point is that the story isn't black and white and Nasu missed the whole point of it by making Karna blameless.

In fact Karna asked for Indra's weapon on his own knowing that he'll be defenseless against Arjuna, it had nothing to do with other gods and his father begging him.
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>>168585928
He left, anon :^)
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>>168586107
will be disappointed*
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>>168586107
>One of the most important saints
>Dragonslayer
>All kind of mystical origin
>Basically THE knight
>Already stated to be top tiers

If ruler George is skewed, it will be by DW, not Nasu.
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>>168586050
Kunti didn't distrust the gods, she gave up Karna because she was unwed and he was a bastard son.
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>>168585928

Bullshit, we need a Tsunako servant. Add Yusuke Kozaki for good measure.
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>>168586225
Don't forget he's the patron Saint of England, which is kind of really important in the Nasuverse.
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>>168586013

Shelley's Frank is more interesting than the boring dindu waifubait we have
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>>168586013
That's you reaching. We don't know how much was just copied, while it is true for Doyle in this case because Watson just passed the book to him, it doesn't apply to the others.
Shelley's Frankenstein is interesting because of the themes it explores and how it does it, not just because she created a random monster, that's not something you can copy from real life unless someone dictates you, that's something you need to develop and write on your own regardless of the events that inspired you.
Same with Dumas, he already had a basis for Montecristo, he still had to write, make the characters, give them insight and establish their actions they took on his own. How you write something is even more important than the plot in itself.
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>>168586148
Karna wasn't blameless, but he certainly didn't dishonorably murder Abhimanyu like you claimed at first.

You're mixing up two stories. Arjuna used a human shield against Bhishma because Bhishma wouldn't risk hitting a woman, while Yuddhisthira lied about Ashwatthama being killed in battle so Drona would be overcome with despair and let himself be killed. Bhima got Ghatotkacha to fight after nightfall because he became invincible and enormous when that happened, which is what forced Karna to use Vasavi in the first place, after Krishna had been using his powers to stop Karna and Arjuna fighting while Karna had it.

The story isn't black and white, but Karna's heroism has nothing to do with it. Karna's not blameless in the slightest, because he still refused to avert the war and still fought in it, all of his own free will, because of the loyalty he owed Duryodhana.

That's in one interpretation, as I've said before. In many, many others, Karna is given Vasavi because Indra was shamed by becoming a beggar and needed to repay Karna.

>>168586247
The reason Karna was born in the first place was because she didn't trust that her mantra would work, so she wanted to test it out.
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>>168586278
Also of Bavaria, Russia, Portugal, Israel (his tumb is there), a lot of place actually, I don't want to write them all.
He is also the saint patron of cavalry (knights, tanks...)
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>>168586319
>that's not something you can copy from real life unless someone dictates you
Frank was a real person and her entire story was real, barring the gender, in the Nasuverse. You straight up meet Victor as a ghost. In the Nasuverse, any themes in the work are incidental.

Same with Dumas, he didn't need to establish their actions because they were real people who did all that shit in reality. The story being interesting and full of interesting characters, motivations, themes, morals and whatever was a result of Dantes real life being that way.

Authors are total hacks. Fucking Narita lost it when Nasu made Dantes a real person without telling him because he realised what it meant for Dumas.
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>>168586225
He's neither a cute girl nor a knight of round Nasu loves.
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>>168586473
>Dumas version of Catherine de Médicis, Henry IV, Richelieu or Marguerite de Valois will be canon in Nasuverse.
My historian sense is crying.
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>>168585552
She'll always be popular in my heart Anon, no matter whether she's Queen Bess or El Draque.
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>>168586473
>any themes in the work are incidental.
You can't seriously believe this. The book goes on lengthy descriptions of what it meant to Frank the very fact his monster was alive and asking him for a partner as well as the insight of how the monster felt with his creator hating him.
No matter how you twist it, no one could know both things and write about, you are reaching hard for the sake of shitposting here.

>Same with Dumas
You do know Dumas had already used a real life basis for that story, right?
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>>168586473
>mfw I remember Moby Dick is strongly implied to be real

...fuck
you are completely correct anon
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So what do you guys do with the chocos as EXP fodder? Dump it all on 5* CE?
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>>168586473
If you read the actual book, you'll know the fictional monster has nothing to do with the retarded waifubait who makes gutural sounds.
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>>168586691
Queen Elizabeth is a whore !

>>168586734
Napoleon will have a line with Montecristo and remember the young Dantes.
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>>168586734
>No matter how you twist it, no one could know both things and write about
Shelley was completely right since we've seen both Victor and Fran and they both feel that way. In the words of the man himself, "Don't think". When Doyle got fucking handed something to publish, yes I totally believe Shelley just got Victors journals or something.
>You do know Dumas had already used a real life basis for that story, right?
You do know I already said taking inspiration is not the same thing as copying down real events right
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>>168585683
>Divinity C
>As the Servant was revered as a saint in the medieval era, the strength of his nature as a divine spirit is equivalent in rank to the deities of minor cults and the forgotten gods of yore. Incidentally, the name "Georgius" was originally related in sense to the tilling of the earth in ancient farming communities -- rooted in the reverence of the Middle Eastern God of Harvest, Ba'al
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>>168579717
>main servant is a classy old man instead of a generic cute girl
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>>168586787
Fran can't talk because muh mad enhancement, she's actually quite intelligent mentally.

She talks in her interlude and blows Victor right out. Not to mention she already got genderbent, no reason other details aren't changed.
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>>168586913
>I totally believe Shelley just got Victors journals or something.
Well, good headcanon but don't try to take into the lore unless it becomes true.

>You do know I already said taking inspiration is not the same thing as copying down real events right
How do you know the whole book was exactly the same as the events?
Does Dumas has clairvoyance to know what everyone was doing and thinking?
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>>168586986
Will DW go bankrupt because of this?
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>>168585836
That's old Arabian Myth not exactly Islam

>>168585893
Aren't sultans is just like another name of a king? kinda like pharaoh
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>>168586761
Dump it all on max ascended but low level CEs and then feed these CEs to the CE you want to level to save QP.
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>>168586986
And you guys shat on Sakurai.
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>>168586967
>George is linked to Baal
>Jesus was mistaken with Baal sometimes because Baal means "the Lord"
Baal must be salty.
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>>168586986
if his skillset and NP is good, I'll roll for him.
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>>168586967
welp

so when's Avenger George that really wants to kill every dragon on earth because they harass his peasants
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>>168587049
>Well, good headcanon but don't try to take into the lore unless it becomes true.
It make a hell of a lot more sense then Shelley getting it all right by fucking coincidence, especially with previous precedent for just copying down real events.
>How do you know the whole book was exactly the same as the events?
Because Dantes is outright said to be a real dude who did all the things outlined in the novel, which is referenced to the point of him quoting it. Or it quoting him, as the case is in the Nasuverse.
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>>168586986
>main servant is a nigger instead of cute girl
ftfy
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>>168586789
I don't think Napoleon ever met Dantes.
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>>168587231
>implying he's not the villain
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>>168587073
Calife is the ruler of islamic world. Normally there is only one.
After some point, Califes don't really hold the power but "choose" some people to do it in their name.
Sultan is one of those, name can change with time and place.(sultan, emir, great vizir, hajib...)

Sultan were mostly turks. They held the power in place of the califes of Bagdad : the Abbassids.
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>>168586789
More like Dantes will have line with Napoleon. Not a good one. He was thrown in Chateu because of him. Kinda.
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>>168587231
Type-moon is progressive, get over it.
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>>168587293
>strong BLACK man
>villain
Nasu isn't a racist, he's already made blacks like Solomon and Ozzy uber top tier.
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>>168587231
The main servant is the old man in the banner. Those four are likely bosses.
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>>168586986
>rolled all my quartz trying to get Saber and only got MHA

Fuck me
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>>168587195
Or fiction affected reality, like it happens in the Nasuverse, Iskander has Divinity because of it.

>Because Dantes is outright said to be a real dude who did all the things outlined in the novel, which is referenced to the point of him quoting it. Or it quoting him, as the case is in the Nasuverse.
Again, how did he know everything his characters thought and did?
Even if he looked at the events afterwards, there is no way all of that is recorded.
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>>168579717
>>168586986
Is that Raita
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>>168587430
>Iskander has Divinity because of it
Iskander outright has divine blood now, the explanation for him going from a shota to a bara is him abusing it. Shit, Zeus gave him magic bulls which I believe Waver sees in his flashbacks.
>Again, how did he know everything his characters thought and did? Even if he looked at the events afterwards, there is no way all of that is recorded.
"Don't think" - Nasu
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>we want the Sherlock crowd and shekels

Sasuga DW
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If what Conan Doyle did was just publish what Watson wrote, how is he a Heroic Spirit?
What if he is Watson himself?
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>>168587262
>>168587262
In the novel, he did. It's the cause of his downfall. Since Napoleon gave him a letter for a noble in Paris. It's before "l'Envol de l'Aigle", when he retake France after his first exil.
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>>168587403
Rolled all my quartz and tickets in the male gacha because I want Cu and don't have a 5* lancer. At least I was able to max out Caster Cu's NP.
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>>168587547
Yeah, they were in his flashback. And Iskandar and Herakles built is similar, so probably there's that.
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>>168587559
The bar for being a Heroic Spirit is, ironically, pretty low

Doyle might be Moriarty himself apparently too
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>>168587293
>implying you aren't assisting the villain side this time
Bobmiya is the Justice
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>>168587619
But Michelangelo wasn't a Heroic Spirit. What the fuck?
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>>168587686
Michelangelo wasn't a Heroic Spirit because he's gay for Da Vinci and Da Vinci is the waifu of Nasus self insert and he doesn't want to accidentally cuck himself
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>>168587559
The Throne of Heroes is like a gated community. Like, a really shitty gated community with knee-high walls.
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>Magic bullet, transforming man, phantom, cry below the moon, hero of justice, empress of puppets

Magic bullet is probably Bobmiya and phantom cry is probably Moriarty. Who could the others be?
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>>168587567
Pretty sure that's in the movie. Book Dantes never even knew he carried a dangerous letter, his captain just gave it to him when he died.
That's the reason De Villefort was about to release him until he found his father was involved and why Dantes took it as an injustice, he never did wrong or cared about Napoleon.
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>>168587723
>cuckposters

It's endearing you guys put so much effort in your posts to try and spin it on cuck
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>>168587686
He could probably be one in some other timeline.
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>>168587734
It's "cry below the moon" and "phantom".
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>no new waifu

JUST
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>>168587723
It was pretty obvious Da Vinci preferred Roman though. A lot of guys hit on Da Vinci including Gil and Ozzy and she told them to fuck off. There was no need to make him a non Heroic Spirit even if he was her former lover.
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>>168587734
Hero of Justice might also be Emiya (Blacked)
Transforming man and cry below the moon might be werewolf Jekyll
Empress of puppets might by Madame Tussaud? There aren't really any famous puppeteers.
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>>168587547
>"Don't think" - Nasu
If it doesn't makes sense and it hasn't been said in the lore, I don't see why it should be taken as true.
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>>168587823
>he doesn't want 3* helper Watson
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>>168587734
empress of puppets is cyber phantasy hassan

he is a loli now :D :DDDDD
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>>168587734
>inb4 Touko servant
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>>168587829
If you created Da Vinci to be your waifu, do you really want to give a design and appearance to your rival
>former lover
He never even got that far
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>>168587768
No that's in the novel. The captain was supposed to do it but he died so Dantes met Napoleon in his place.
In the novel Dantès even comment how grandious was Napoleon to his friend, the armator.
He wasn't truly a bonapartist but he met him.
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I love my waifu!
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>>168587889
>:D :DDDDD
Fuck off.
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>>168587734
Cry below the moon is Jekyll (Berserker) because he turns into a fucking werewolf.
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>>168568342
Jeanne, Merlin, Jack and Lancer Arturia. So, four.
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>GILFfag
>mustache
Dissapointed at every turn
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>>168587734
>empress of puppets
>tfw Dirty Red becomes a story character before Aoko becomes even a CE or gets any mention at all
Don't fucking do it Nasu.
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>>168587928
the thread is already over, but still, you must be new here
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>>168587846
>doesn't make sense
The only explanation for the Count of Monte Cristo being a real story in it's entirety, including intricacies of characters and details only the characters within the novel should have known, AND Dumas writing it, is that Dumas somehow got all the details of the real story.

Meanwhile, Doyle is revealed to be a total hack who published some dudes journals.

It makes perfect sense and the only other explanation is oh Dumas just happened to get it all right, exact quotations and all, by sheer dumb luck, and even Nasu isn't that bad.
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>>168587907
They were lovers and Da Vinci fancied him but she wasn't sure if it was true love for her as it was for him. She finally understood how he felt over her loss when she loses Roman, so you can say he was as shipping fodder.
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>>168587935
I'm not sure Jekyll is popular enough to get a variant in this game.
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>>168587734
>>168587834
>>168587935

What if it's an actual werewolf?
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Is there any official illustration on how Anderson looks underneath the clothes?
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>>168588072
Neither is Perseus but he's got one
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>>168585502
Screencap this post, F/EoD will be the only good thing to come out of the post Mahoyo Nasuverse.
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>>168587734
Most of the line is just flavour text,the "phantom" part was in the brief summary
>The perfect criminal plan, activate--- O phantom spirit, dance madly on these immoral streets.
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>>168588085
Maybe but Jekyll has already been associated with Holmes n shit
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>>168588085
It's the 5AP werewolf from the Dango event. He recovered and he's out for revenge.
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>>168588072
jekyll got TWO ces during white day. one for him and one for hyde.
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>>168587994
Silly Anon, Aoko was at your side all along.
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>>168588072
Neither is Anne/Mary but they still got their summer variant.
Just releasing another 3* version of Hyde won't hurt anyone.
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>>168588072
Nasu gave the writers free reign and Sakurai exclusively wrote him as far more important than Mode Red in London (Mode Red was irrelevant fodder, despite being the 'main helper'). Your resources, your food, your information, etc, all came from Jekyll. She also wrote his backstory novel which connected him as friend of Watson and Holmes, you fucking tell me.
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>>168587908
>“Well, when we quitted Naples, Captain Leclere was attacked with a brain fever. As we had no doctor on board, and he was so anxious to arrive at Elba, that he would not touch at any other port, his disorder rose to such a height, that at the end of the third day, feeling he was dying, he called me to him. ‘My dear Dantès,’ said he, ‘swear to perform what I am going to tell you, for it is a matter of the deepest importance.’
>“‘I swear, captain,’ replied I.
>“‘Well, as after my death the command devolves on you as mate, assume the command, and bear up for the Island of Elba, disembark at Porto-Ferrajo, ask for the grand-marshal, give him this letter—perhaps they will give you another letter, and charge you with a commission. You will accomplish what I was to have done, and derive all the honor and profit from it.’

He received the cart from his capitan when he died after the captain had obtained it from Napoleon, Dantes never met Napoleon in the book, only in the movie.
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>>168588053
We have two explanations that don't make sense then, the third one would be that fiction affected the HS in the throne, which I think is the one that makes the most sense.
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>>168588296
Here, the captain is asking Dantes to go in his place.
>when we quitted Naples
>bear up for the Island of Elba
>ask for the grand-marshal
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>>168588085
Jekyll and Hyde is a real fucking werewolf in Fragments and meeting Moriarty is what led him to do that fucking potion. He was Holmes' buddy and crime fighter.
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>>168588442
Wait was it what?!
Please explain to this newfag.
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>>168588425
That's right, I forgot the grand-marshal of the island was Napoleon.
Never mind, he did meet him.
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>>168588391
None of Dantes shit says he is affected by fictional interpretations, and every character who has that as an aspect has it outlined in bold as really important with most having it as an outright skill. Even on his profile, it says he's from a book? compared to people like Frank, who is from a book, and whose profile just says from a book, but she was still a real person in the Nasuverse. Phantom is an example of a real person affected by their story, not Dantes.

Dumas did some interviews/found a journal/used a crystal ball, whatever you prefer.
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>>168587994
Aoko could be magic bullet
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LIZ
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>>168588519
Read Sakurai short story.
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Anyone have that image showing which valentine's CE applies to which Servant? Don't want to buy them on-sight and hope they apply to who I'm thinking of.
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>>168588623
Just use cirno
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>>168588519
A short story of him by Sakurai was released in TMA magazine,about why he create the potion in the first place.
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>>168564902
She's gonna be a Caster to not threaten Jack
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>>168587734
>hero of justice
>mfw it's L/ZO servant
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>>168588519
When summoned as Berserker in Fragments, he turns into a huge werewolf when he goes Hyde.

As for the rest, it's covered in his backstory (which is pretty good): A Study of the Colors of Raven's Feathers which is told in Watson's POV, lamenting the suicide of their old friend and companion "Harry" (revealed in the story to be Henry Jekyll) who built an invaluable network for them to dismantle Moriarty's operations. Jekyll was obsessed with justice (his master is literally a Shirou clone without plot armor in Fragments and they get along as soulmates), so when faced the Napoleon of crimes, he became obsessed with the idea of separating good and evil of people so he tried to research this. Jekyll was the leader in the London Singularity, by the way, something it's not really known because nobody translates it. He is supplying his house as base of operation to solve the mystery in it, plus information, maps, food, and other shit organizing the Servants before your arrival. Mordred basically leads you to his place.
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>>168588589
You might just be right, didn't really notice.
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>>168588723
Anon...
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baking
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>>168588580
Except Dantes straight out tells you he isn't the Dantes that came to forgive. Why would Dumas write a shitty AU ending?
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>>168588829
And just before I made your Shiki thread. Leave out the edition shit please.
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>>168588580
>Dumas did some interviews/found a journal/used a crystal ball, whatever you prefer.
Headcanon then?
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>>168588836
>Except Dantes straight out tells you he isn't the Dantes that came to forgive.
He's Dantes from before his revenge finished, that's why he's still pissed. His shit outright says this.
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>>168588589
>>168587994
>>168587734
>Magic Bullet-Aoko
>Empress of Puppet-Touko
>Cry below the moon-Lugh Beowulf

Holy shit
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>>168588727
So what kind of werewolf is this?

And the Assassin version is post potion?
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>>168587994
Nasu already said he let other writers run loose for 1.5.
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>>168588829
You've got 90 seconds to finish baking before I say fuck it and post my own.
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>>168588895
I'll take theories based on precedent over headcanon "oh he just guessed lmao"
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>>168588921
Aoko could also be Fallen Star, due to one of here themes in Mahoyo being First Star, which would be a stretch. all in all it looks like the first volume might link to Clock Tower 2015, which is nice.
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>>168588836
It's directly said he got his happy ending but he as a Servant is just bound to act as an edgy incarnation of vengeance because Dumas' story became too famous and he is now a symbol of revenge.
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>>168585929
Im in love with that blonde tamamo, blini servant when?
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>>168589015
>"oh he just guessed lmao"
Never said that. I said I think the most logical conclusion is that fiction affected reality.
Of course, we don't actually know, taking anything as the absolute truth is worthless.
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>>168589160
>I said I think the most logical conclusion is that fiction affected reality.
>no indication in any of Dantes shit that he's affected by fiction, evidence is in fact to the contrary
>being affected by fiction is outright a skill that Dantes doesn't have
That isn't logic.
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>>168589335
In his event is said he is bound to be an Avenger due to fiction though.

Still if he had his NPs while alive then Dumas definitely didn't got it exactly as it happened.
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>>168589453
>In his event is said he is bound to be an Avenger due to fiction though.
It's said this version of him is an Avenger, it's not said he can only be an Avenger because he's that affected by fiction. The Count of Monte Cristo and Edmond Dantes were two different entries on the original leak list.
>Still if he had his NPs while alive then Dumas definitely didn't got it exactly as it happened.
Why would he? Tons of Servants didn't have their NPs while they were alive.
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>>168589581
>The Count of Monte Cristo and Edmond Dantes were two different entries on the original leak list.
No they weren't.

>Why would he? Tons of Servants didn't have their NPs while they were alive.
Because it's directly in Mats III said that Monte Christo Mythologie is related to fourteen artifacts he found with the treasure. And yeah, he has 14 glowing spheres in the black flame coat.

Still, we got a scene of Dumas talking about Edmond being real or not in SF and he says that his inspiration was his father.
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>>168589882
>And yeah, he has 14 glowing spheres in the black flame coat.
That doesn't mean he could still move faster then thought and shoot laser beams. Even if he did, it's the Nasuverse and there is already a precedent for works of literature being different.
>Still, we got a scene of Dumas talking about Edmond being real or not in SF and he says that his inspiration was his father.
Narita didn't know Dantes was going to be a real person instead of just a dude in a book until Nasu actually did it. He was really salty about it.
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>>168590126
>Narita didn't know Dantes was going to be a real person instead of just a dude in a book until Nasu actually did it. He was really salty about it.
That's getting a lot of conclusions when that scene was said to be written after the event. Also in the afterword he says that Nasu actually gave him all the info abou Dumas and his books characters related to Nasuverse, what Narita never expected was Nasu using it first. You are just going by the stupid theory that GO did about the situation without even having read the actual afterword where he explained it.
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>>168590403
He said Nasu gave him a ton of resources about Dantes and what he was allowed to do with him, then Nasu just put him into Grand Order as outright and explicitly a real person without telling Narita, who until that point had been keeping it totally ambiguous. Anything he writes after the point is frantic damage control to make it line up, which he outright bitches about and directly compares it to the guy doing Case Files who had to scrap half a volume he hadn't released yet after Nasu sent him a memo about plans for characters he wanted to use while Naritas was already in publication.
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>>168590126
>it's the Nasuverse and there is already a precedent for works of literature being different.
Yeah I know that was my point.
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>>168590603
>Grand Order as outright and explicitly a real person without telling Narita
It's still not clear though due to that ? that only he has in his profile unlike other literary Servants. I wonder if the Drama CD will explain this or if we will see the actual events and not the novel ones.
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>>168590625
Different from ours, as in Frankensteins monster was a girl and Dantes might have shot laser beams, not different from other copies of that book within the setting.

Dumas still got the entire real story monologues and all somehow.
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>>168590714
>Dumas still got the entire real story monologues and all somehow.
How do you know that? I seriously doubt that once we get the Drama CD it will be a copy paste of the novel, given how always this goes in Nasuverse.
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>>168590692
The question mark is to indicate that the Count of Monte Cristo is not actually fiction, not that Dantes is actually fictional.
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>>168590770
>How do you know that?
Dantes quotes the novel, and he's from before it was written. This isn't rocket science.
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>>168590860
So just wait until the Drama CD quotes like two sentences of the novel at best and the rest is brand new. Because that's what it's going to happen.
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>>168590928
The Drama CD is going to be a retelling of the novel but probably more chuuni. It is absolutely not going to be an entirely original story.
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>>168591010
I never said that, I meant as in that it's not going to have all the quotes and shit of the novel, so that means that Dumas didn't somehow knew all of it magically and he was also making up shit. Also the only thing Dantes quotes all the time is that last line of Wait and Hope.
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>>168586319
On a side note, Dumas had a ghost-writer doing the drafts for his works. I don't remember to what extent the content of the story is Dumas', but nobody contests Dumas' talent as a writer despite that. Making the story created from facts isn't that far a change in that regard.
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>>168591106
It's going to be the same events, characters, motivations, conclusions, inner thoughts and so on.

It's not going to be one to one because it's a drama CD for character hyping purposes in a different language that is going to be a summary but it's going to be Dumas' The Count of Monte Cristo.
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>>168591221
It's actually going to be about him and Faria, so if they scenes are not the same that means that Dumas was making up a story with them as a basis.
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>>168591443
They are going to be the same, barring Nobu going full chuuni.
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>>168587547
>Iskander outright has divine blood now, the explanation for him going from a shota to a bara is him abusing it.
Not in real life.
Shota Alex is just Alexander without fictional interference from Greeks.
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