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/hsg/ Year of the Mammoth and NA + EU TOURNAMENT EDITION. SIGN UP TODAY.

>New rotation information
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356

Tournament Information
>25 BATTLENET BUCKS GRAND PRIZE
>Date: Feb. 24-26
>Time: 6pm EST
>Format: Conquest, Bo5
>Stream: twitchDOTtv/axolotlhooves
Streamer Battletag: AxolotlAndy#1798
>NA Entry Form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfWgLm4nNqzprlQVKZEKGYNLav4tRDpMz1QXqYNV6lTtwLcDQ/viewform
>EU entry form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeo-O3Z5cQJEjS56l8K5Dhq8m2GkydybKkeiBFCXuN0tNuTQQ/viewform

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://discord.gg/m8F3YeZ

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

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>>168520278
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any word on how many have signed up already?
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>>168544737
This OP is much better. Anyhow, fuck Blizzard.
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This thread has the Shrek script in the OP. We're all in the other one.
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>>168543941
>>168543941
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fuck off retard, there is already a thread
>>168543941
>>168543941
>>168543941
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>>168545067
>>168545092
Why is it so important for you to make the OP? Why would you make a new thread when the current one is on page 1?
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>>168545067
>>168545092
You shouldn't make threads 50 posts early. And the tournament promotional general was already discussed in the previous thread.
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>>168545052
ït's remarkable how many people don't get this simple concept
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Fucking retards will be in the other thread. I don't understand why the mongoloid needs to make threads over 20 posts to early and make it such a low effort shit that it is.

Not even a link to the Mammoth shit.
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>>168545291
nobody cares that's why you sperg
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>>168545291
Because if the thread isn't 20 posts early retards (like you) put the Shrek script in it.
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>>168545354
>>168545067
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Feels good man. Will craft the doubles right before the rotation so I can use STB nerf dust and any extras pulled from season reward/brawl.
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>>168545291
>Autist triggered by who got to make the thread first

kys kek lul
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>>168545410
crafted double drake and ice lance myself
don't want to spend dust to upgrade the rest though
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>>168545354
Except there is no Shrek script in here you fucking mongoloid.
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POST A CARD RIGHT NOW!
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Reminder that you get FREE DUST RETURNS.

Get your free golden legendaries today.
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>>168545579
>You've been invited to join #shrek-script in "Hearthstone Cucks General"
We're not retarded like you. It's easy to tell when a link is changed.

>9 posters
Giggle
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>>168545528
I didn't even make the thread.
The point is that this thread has info related to an event organized by /hsg/ while the other OP has absolutely nothing.
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>>168545710
You are seriously autistic
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>>168545728
literally who cares, everyone already knows all the shit that's put in the general thread OP
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>>168545710
>using discord
is that why you sperged out and made a shitty thread 30 posts early?
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>>168545667
zaddy onyx bishop
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What the flying fuck is a goddamn "shrek script" ??
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>>168545831
>everyone already knows about the tournament that is currently being organized

Sure m8.
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>>168545067
if you make a thread 20 posts early just for the sake of it being "your thread" you need to be fucking banned
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Confirmation from Ben Brode that you can dust the rotated classic cards.
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>>168546006
No one cares about that peanut butter festival.
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>>168546062
why did that need to be confirmed
after they introduced dusting adventure cards you can dust everything except the basics and c'thun
also they put murkeye into the same set and you can disenchant him right now
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Have they clarified if you'll get the shekels for both you regulars and golds? The exact wording is "Up to the maximum number of cards you could put in a deck, we will give you the full dust value of any cards you have that are being added to the Hall of Fame set." which sounds like you would only get credit for gold if you have both gold and regular, but it's ambiguous enough I wonder.

Crafted a gold Sylv, gold rag, double gold azure drake, gold ice lance, and gold conceal just in case. Already had 1 lance 1 conceal and 3 power overwhelming so I've got the full roster. Worst case scenario should give me the same amount of dust if I didn't craft, assuming they don't make hall of fame non-disenchantable.
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Come on autists, nobody cares about this thread. Move over to the real one.
>>168545963
There was a link in the OP to the full script (all the voice lines written down) of the Shrek movie.
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>just crafted ice block for this brawl
>read about dust refund
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>>168546212
they've confirmed that you get dust for up to two drakes or the commons with goldens getting priority and just the golden if you have golden and regular of the legos
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>>168545754
It should work. I play in the EU region and I've purchased Blizzard games from the NA store to get a better price. Battle.net Balance should be account wide regardless of region. But I can make a Blizzard ticket to confirm it.
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>>168546075
Obviously people care.

>>168546206
Because retards love to make up lies and start shit so rumors started out like 20 minutes after the post saying how you can't disenchant the cards after the rotation.

>>168546212
If you have 2 golden and 2 regular, you get dust only for the 2 golden.
If you have 1 golden and 2 regular, you get dust for 1 golden and 1 regular.
If you have 0 golden and 2 regular, you get dust for 2 regular.
Basically it goes up to 2 for non-lego cards and prioritizes the golden cards. The system is "rigged" in your favor to get the biggest dust value out of your cards.
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So I guess you'll still be able to pull cards that were rotated out of Standard from Classic packs ?
They should give full dust from cards pulled this way because it's insanely dumb/deceptive otherwise.

>>168546242
Oh ok.
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>>168546353
how do you access the NA store from EU?
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>>168546341

Ah, bummer. It's a shame they didn't just do the full refund, since I'm a jewish dust baron I would've made out like a bandit since I never disenchant anything until it's nerfed/I desperately need dust. Got fat stacks of dupes.

At least this way I'll end up with the same total, just did extra steps. Had regular Rag so I would've gotten 1,600. Crafted gold so I spend 3,200, will get 3,200 back, and then will get 1,600 when I disenchant it. Oh well.
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>>168546526
You could just go to the us.battle.net link and pay in USD.

For example:
https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/diablo-iii-reaper-of-souls

But since the euro tanked its not really that worthwhile anymore.
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What do you think this list will look like in two months?
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>>168546629
this always worked?
fuck I've been jewed
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>>168546821
Aya in the top 3
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>>168546821
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>>168546938
subtle
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>>168546938
Really makes me wonder what the wild meta will look like.
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>>168546821
>I'M IN CHARGE NOW
>We hunger for venegance
>Golems are a grill's best friend!
>Dr Jungle: 7 mana 7/7, battlecry: Summon two Junglebots. Warning: Junglebots may explode
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>>168546821
Thalnos on place since he's that good. Can't really predict much past that.
It depends a lot on what is going to be released during the next expansion.

>>168546938
Nice.
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>>168547097
it's all but confirmed next expansion is ungoro rite?
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Does anyone wanna trade a challenge a friend quest?

We'll just challenge each other at first to confirm quests.
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>>168547306
fuck off jew
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>>168547306
add me on EU BestMageEU#2304
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>>168546821

>best legendaries are 8+ mana
>doesn't fucking matter because no one gets to turn 8 anymore
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>>168546821
Patches and Thalnos stay on top. Aya climbs. I think Kazakus falls.
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>>168547306
We don't like your kind here, BestMage.
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>>168547612

Kazakus is kill unless they reprint Reno or add something similarly powerful. The singleton cards aren't worth it when Reno rotates out, he's the big crutch that can prop up the lack of deck consistency, the others are just sprinkles on top.
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the adventure grace period being taken away is huge

its like in wow right when they realize people are sitting on too much gold so they come up with ways for people to get rid of the gold and take it out of the economy
3 expansions with the shitty rng, dust, bad cards, tons of crap legendaries etc means people will be digging deep inside their dust and gold stashes to collect the playable cards, failing that they will have to dive deep into their wallet. you will not sit comfortably as easily as when theres even a bit of an adventure from time to time

they are already terrible on players being able to earn stuff, this will increase the gap by a lot, it needs to be offset by something im hoping for that badly. so important
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i hate reddit so much they are eating this up i cant believe it
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>>168547798
The fact that we need something as powerful as Reno is because there is literally no playable Taunt. Fucking Infested tauren and Dirty rat are not even close to be worthy replacements for Deathlord and Belcher.

They need to add actual good taunts and some healing to replace Funnel cakes, otherwise yeah singleton decks will die in the rotation.
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>>168544737

finally the ultimate "flip a coin to win" card is out
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>>168547918
>no more paying 2800 gold for 40 cards
>free dust for owning the rotated cards
>sarcastically thanking them for free gold
>"cuck"
there's no fucking end to the hearthshitter playerbase's complaining
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have you noticed there have been more articles about hearthstone recently, feels like that to me, its like pre damage control
rather than people going to a fansite and reading all the crap or stumbling upon a person who unleashes all their discontent, maybe instead they land on an article and within the article it will say well there is some unrest but really it is explained away by this so its really not that bad
horrible
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>>168548407
20 arcane dust has been deposited in your account
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>>168548393

That 3/8 tree is a good taunt
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What was my crime?
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>>168548407
karazhan is 39 cards with 2 copies so 78 cards and 5 legendaries so 83 cards

really makes you think huh cuck
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Are you sad about any legendary never taking off? I love Herald Volazj and the effect is one of the most interesting in Hearthstone. Yet it was fucking dead in the water.
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>>168547918

Yeah, that's my biggest concern. The adventures ensured that everyone (Assuming they weren't retarded and knew went to save gold and/or be a good goy) got some guaranteed legendaries that were usually really important. Karazan might have been the weakest adventure and it still has a good stack of important cards.

Relying on boosters will be grim. Shit, out of a fat stack of Gadgetzan boosters I managed to pull two (2) Shaku, a Hancho, a Kun, and a Raza. The only cards that are somewhat playable are Kun and Raza, and Raza's fucked as soon as Reno's gone and Kun is basically just a third arcane golem as far as druid is concerned.

>>168548393

That's also true, but if taunt became prevalent again like with belcher then people could start running Le Hootyface again in aggressive decks. A good taunt or two alone wouldn't prop up Reno, Reno's strength is he doesn't get cockblocked by silence.
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>>168548503
It costs 6 and the game ended or close to ending against aggro.
Also it's really bad. Since 6 mana 6/7 are the vanilla stats, they actually removed 2 stat points for Taunt when you should remove just 1 point (see Taz'dingo vs Yeti).
Deathlord is 1 less atk and half the cost for a really fair downside.
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>I don't have a lack of self control it's just the game that is shit
t. reynoodlies
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>>168549005
watching that faggot anymore
watching hearthstone streams
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>>168548661
Anon you won
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>>168549114
you forgot your meme arrows friend
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So what should I craft now with the new changes? I don't have ragnaros
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>>168548923
Yes of course. But there is only so much silence you can put in your deck when you want as much burn and agressively stated minions as possible.
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>>168549361
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>>168549203
You weren't factoring in the Getaway Kodo from the first Challenger.
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what was the intent of this card
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>>168549621
it's a card they don't have to playtest at all because it won't be played
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>>168549621
To counter Sylvanas and Highmane.
Didn't pan out.
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>>168548692
le depressed priest man was experimenting with Herald every once in a while and the general conclusion is if you manage to stick something worthwile on the board for a turn, it's great. But if you manage to stick something worthwile on the board, you usually win anyway.

So like any other badly designed card Team 5 thought would somehow take off despite the mana cost.
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>>168549621
to put a man with thick thighs and a slim waist in hearthstone and straight into my heart

oh, the card? a counter for a non-existent n'zoth meta
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Post your golden legendaries. There is really no excuse now you literally get them for free.
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>>168549621
Anti sylvanas,,?
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Reminder to craft all golden cards you dont have 2 copies of
You either get them for free, or get a free 3700 dust, your choice

>Golden "Hall of Fame Cards" Crafting Costs
Ragnaros 3200
Sylvanas 3200
2x Azure Drake 1600
2x Power Overwhelming 800
2x Conceal 800
2x Ice Lance 800
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10400 Dust Value

>Golden "Hall of Fame Cards" Disenchanting Gains
Ragnaros 1600
Sylvanas 1600
2x Azure Drake 200
2x Power Overwhelming 100
2x Conceal 100
2x Ice Lance 100
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3700 Dust Value
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>>168549621
We can't make every card of a set top-tier! Bad cards need to exist!
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>>168549948
Nexus Champion Saraad
Gruul (dusted since)
Jaraxxus (crafted)
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>this raycunt autism
NOPE
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>>168549948
>tfw never craft
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>>168549621
A well stated tech card.

Also to make my dick hard.
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shit I only have 1k gold atm but I feel very tempted to buy some packs just to get dust to craft the goldens... fuck
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I have a Golden and None Golden, do I get full dust value for both? So it's 4800 dust + I keep the cards?
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>>168550539
this is how the blizzman gets you
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>2017
>being new
(I own the yellow ones because people always ask)
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>>168550642
read again. no
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threadly reminder that there will be 1000 more years of auctioneer
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>>168550742
meant to reply to >>168550376
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>>168550738
how far away are we from the next expansion? i
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The game just got 200 euro or 20000 gold per year more expensive. Do you love your one time 3.7k dust goy?
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>>168549621
Meme tech against Sylvanas, Cairne and Highmane. Since games in this meta are decided well before turn 6, he doesn't see play.

If there was a control meta LOL he might be used a lot.
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>>168550903
couple months

no specific date
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>>168550923
>euro
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>>168551050
Sylvanas is used only with Shadowflame these days anyway, and the other two are gone from the meta.
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>>168550376
Those duplicate Dreadscales remind me how hard GvG and TGT packs fucked me in the ass. and WOG for that matter.

Actually the only expansion that didn't fuck me over was MSOG.

>this game is f2p goi
>just get the 2 out of 20 good legendaries per pack from your quest gold

Blizzard needs to stop printing so much unplayable trash. We don't need another expansion instead of an adventure. We need fucking less filler cards.
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>>168551050
He has pretty good stats so I believe he would actually see play in a slower meta. Not only because of those mentioned but also because of the new Shaman lego which would definitely see play in a slower meta.
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>>168550923
this is retardecd, it completely ignores the amount of dust u get from expansions vs adventures and the fact that u can pick and choose cards to craft in expansions but not adventures thus limiting the total number of packs
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>>168551289
>this is retardecd, it completely ignores the amount of dust u get from expansions
no it doesnt because the 200 packs is clearly taking into consideration the dust you get from dupes
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>>168550923
>eurocucks
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>>168551289
>>168551221
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>>168550923
>he doesn't have a full time job that enjoys him an excess of disposable income to spend on hobbies and games
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>>168551382
200 packs is a fucking lot though
I think about 100 is enough for most of the playable cards
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>>168551382
you dont need anywhere close to 200 fucking packs to complete an expansion you need like 15 packs for commons and rares + 5k dust to craft legendaries
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>>168551221
i had duplicate shifter too but dusted one of those
feelsbadman
>wanting pack only expansions
not me

in tgt i think i only got half of the commons even from the pre order but i got them in 5-9x, like wtf
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>>168551289
No, it takes into account how much you need to get 90% if the collection.
Also the dust argument goes in favor of adventures.
Look at LoE for example. It has 2 legoes that see insane amount of play, 1 that has seen play in every control deck before MSG and a bunch of other cards. If you bought 28 packs, you are expected to get 1.4 legendary cards to of it, yet here you get 3 playable and a bunch of other that you can dust and craft other cards.

>b-but you only need some cards not all
Yeah, to die of boredom by playing the same deck for 4 months until the next expansion hits.
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>>168549948

Genzo the Shark. I'll probably dust him next time I need to craft something.
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>>168551108
Expansion 1 is slated for quarter 2 so sometime in April to last week of June
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>>168551505
>you dont need anywhere close to 200 fucking packs to complete an expansion you need like 15 packs for commons and rares + 5k dust to craft legendaries
if you want to complete a expansion you need to open like 350 packs

if you want to get every card that can actually be played and have dust to craft the rest you need to open about 150 packs

if all you want to do is netdeck the same decks everyone else is playing because you saw a streamer do it, why bother playing
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>>168551505
but where will you get that dust from?
you deplete your dust, you save up gold for next expansion which comes out in a couple months, you are sitting on no dust
you open the new packs, you barely get duplicates then because its all new
where is your dust?
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>>168551050
its not even a fucking good counter tho, it only has 2 fucking health more and its conditional !
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>>168551505
>15k dust per year
Have fun collecting dust and scraping every part off your collection because you get like a 60 dust average per pack if you don't luck out with golden legendaries.

Which you won't do because the golden legendary pity timer is 400 packs from a specific set and with the limited amount you can buy as f2p that's never :^)
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>>168551672
Actually LOE has 3 that see an insane amount of play. So even more in favor of adventures.
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>>168551672
you need like 2-3 epics per expansion and 4-5 leggos u dont need 90% of the expansion
>>168551748
adventures and duplicates from previous expansion/dust gotten from 25pack or w/e dupicates, look i know its more than 25 packs its probably 75-100 to get most of useful leggos and epics with some luck but its not freaking 200
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>>168551834
>LOE has 3 that see an insane amount of play

That's why they can't go around making more adventures goy.

You didn't spend at least 150-200 bucks getting those.
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>>168551996
To get 3 epics and 4-5 legos, even if you're a lucky goy, you'd need to buy a lot more than 28 packs. Let alone precisely the ones you need.
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>>168551996
>you need like 2-3 epics per expansion and 4-5 leggos u dont need 90% of the expansion
Read the last sentence of the post you quoted.

MSG has 6-7 epics that see play. Only one is used in Reno decks so every of them is ruin in 2 copies. That's quite a freaking lot if you're not lucky and unpack them.
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>>168551996
not sure but im warning for when you run out of adventures and duplicates to dust and you go into a new expansion with low dust or gold, it will be a ton of packs needed

what if you take a break? no gold? what now since you need 100 packs thats really a huge ask that will have to come out of the wallet at that point
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>>168551996
You know what this also means? Running behind the meta for 90% of the release of a set :^)
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>>168551784
It actually is though. 90% of the time you silence something, it's to get rid of a deathrattle. Plus, 2 remaining health means it can't be hero powered doawn and requires another card to clear.

Basically, it trades 2 for 1 against cards that are meant to trade 2+ for 1. That's quite good in matchups where value wins.
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>>168550923

>implying you need every card

Expansions are like 80% filler trash, you don't need 200 packs to craft the best decks.

for the he most recent expansion you just need Patches and Kazamakus and you can make most top tier decks
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>>168546293
>crafting cards just for a brawl
Neck yourself my dude
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I kinda "returning" to HS.
Basically I have 0 gold and 0 dust on my account.
Ignoring the whole Ragnaros and shit stuff, how much gold and dust can I hoard at this point before the next expansion arrives?
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>>168552561
>90%

source or baseless exaggeration?
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>>168552790
3000
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>>168552561
its not for how specific it is plus u are ignoring that when u silence it sylvanas can probably trade in your shit. Im not saying its bad to use the card vs sylvanas, but would be roughly the same effect with spellbreAker for 2 mana less.
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So I dusted all of my stuff on my EU account to make an aggro murloc pally to play comfy games with. It's at rank 8 now, slowly climbing still.

Is this deck actually good or is EU trash?
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are keywords too confusing for new players?

i.e. Deathrattle, Taunt, Battlecry

how will new players even know where to start? should cards just be stats+mana cost?
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>tfw you open a pack and get 4 commons (20 dust) and a rare (20 dust)
working my way towards that next legendary i want ;^)
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Post the last time you got meme'd hard. I don't even play that wyrm. That was from a Firelands.
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>>168552947
>You must attack the minion with Taunt!
>How do I use Taunt to attack it?
>>
They keep talking about catering to returning players but anyone who takes a break won't bother coming back because unless you're maximizing daily quest gold youll be spending around $80-100 per expansion to hopefully get all the good cards and enough dust to craft the relevant shit you didn't unpack.

It's even more ridiculous that everyone on Reddit keeps saying the new triple expansion schedule is okay because Karazhan sucked and Adventures don't grant enough cards to fill the void of TGT LoE and BrM rotating. 50% of booster pack expansions are filler garbage to make you buy more packs anyway and Team 5 could have made $40 Adventures that grant 100 cards or whatever. There was nothing stopping them from making Adventurs that gave more cards outside of not wanting to give too much cheap shit in the form of usable and dust able Legendaries.

People who take a break will have to spend out the ass to catch up and current players scraping by on gold/dust will get hit hard since there will be no more Adventure grace period to save gold. And everything you buy will get demoted to the garbage bin joke mode within one year. This cash grab just might be the thing that kills Hearthstone by this time next year.
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>>168552947
we are moving there senpai
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>>168552790
Around 4200 if you save all gold. You have 10 weeks. 70 days at 60 gold average.

Decent start. Use the gold buffer technique. So stop buying a set early and craft remaining picks early, then save and get like 70 gold packs for new set and stop buying more on launch day. Craft after 2 weeks.
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>>168552751
Read posts before posting something retarded.

1. I don't want to play nothing but your shitty boring net decks.
2. You need a lot more legendary cards than just that since you're currently running on cards from LoE that make up half of your decks legos.
3. You need a bunch of epics for any interesting deck that is also good.
4. When a nerf happens you're out of your precious shitty netdeck and don't have anything else to play.

Can't wait for the Patches that people crafted to be sooo freaking useful.
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>>168552790
hello returning player
here is an option
20 bucks for an adventure or 100+ bucks for card packs that will grant you maybe 30% of the cards you need
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>>168552984
>>
>blizz killing combo decks
literally dropped

only fun thing in this shit game is making bads mad with autistic solitaire decks
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I don't have sylvanas or rag, and I can only manage the dust for one. Which should I go for? I love control, and they both fit that archetype, so not really sure.
Sylvanas seems more reliable, rag seems more fun though.
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>>168553364
Dust your shitty adventure cards and get both. YOU GET THEM FOR FREE.
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>>168553072
>>168552854
10 weeks? For real?

I see, thanks anons.

>Use the gold buffer

I did that all the time, I started to play on gvg I just stopped because the pirate meta is really dull.
I though the next expansion was less than a month away, 3 weeks or so.

>>168553231
>using real money

No way in hell, this game doesn't deserve it.
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To those saying you don't need 90% of the collection.
Basically you're 30-40 packs short on every single expansion compared to right now. And that's just for getting the meta relevant epics and legos. Want fun? Use your most powerful card. The credit card.
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>>168553349
Combo decks were dead no matter what with the thaurissan rotation.
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>>168553364
Dust
>Rivendare
>Feugen
>Stalagg
>Maexxna
>Blackhand
>Majordomo
>Moroes
>Malchezaar
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Damn LOE was some fucking value
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>>168553079
well yeah If you want to play your special snowflake shit decks you need to pay up.

I'm just saying you don't need anywhere near 200 packs to play the best decks, but you're the kind of guy who plays shit decks in rank 20 and cries about not winning to reddit.
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>>168553442
I'd need to dust a metric fuck ton of cards. I have 800 dust on the button right now. I could spend money/dust some junk epics for the other 800. Getting a further 1600 isn't very realistic unless I give the blizz kikes a fuck ton of money.
Commons and rares will not get me there. Theres few legs I'd be willing to dust.
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>>168552795
Experience? Why else you you silence something? People don't play many minion buffs in standard, and control decks that this card is meant to target definitely don't.

>>168552925
Trading in your board is exactly what the other guy wants. The point of running Sylvanas is to trade 2+ for 1.

Spellbreaker is okay, but it doesn't get you ahead on board, and the big silence targets trade into it favorably if the opponent couldn't deal 3 damage some other way.
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Go for golden sylv and rag or nah? I don't need really need my dust atm.
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>>168554051
you are a boring person
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>>168553507
They should just give out more packs instead of gold. I don't think that'd impact their sales too much. Hell, they should get rid of gold all together and make you buy packs for dust.
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>>168552932
The handbuff with grimscale chums, Finja, and inquisitors?

I got to rank 5 with that deck the first season MSG dropped, but I don't think it's consistent enough for this meta.

But yeah, it's fun to play and can faceroll some matchups it has no business winning if you draw right.
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>>168554051
That's quite some projection m8. See >>168553507
You won't be able even to get just the meta relevant cards unless you're very lucky.
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>misplay twice in a row
>lose
>become so sad that you quit playing for two days
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>>168553907
nah man id rather buy 80 packs and open duplicate nat pagle and a captain greenskin on the pity timer, within the next 40 packs ill have enough to craft 1 legendary of my choice! woohoo
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>>168552947

Yes
t. Ben
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What's in your wallet?
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>>168554059
Post your collection link here using the Heartpwn Innkeeper application and we can take a look if you have enough stuff to dust.

Would be worth it since it gets refunded.
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>>168554270
>hit rank 6 early by mindless grinding
>suddenly woke af
>wait til the end of the month to stomp shitters for free golden epic
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>>168552947
When I started playing around TGT, I didn't know the difference between Battlecry and aura and contemplated dusting Justicar I'd opened because who fucking needs a better hero power only for a single turn.
The struggle is real.
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>>168554467
21$, driver's licence, college ID, debit card and a comb.
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>>168553616
I don't have naxx, I could buy the rest of blackrock
(I bought the first wing with gold) for the 800 dust though.
I own all of kara and loe. Moroes is a viable dust, would rather not dust malch but its a possibility.
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>>168552932
>>168554202
Which deck is this?
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>>168554467
>Debit card
>Free student unlimited public transportation card
>ID card
>40 bucks
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Frothing Berserker is such a stupid fucking card, it needs to be included in the Wild exile
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>>168554873
cuck
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>>168554709
Malchezaar is terrible. You could use the free dust you're getting to craft any 1 legendary you want. Maybe even 2.
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>>168554467
Fuck you Sam last time you asked what it's my wallet you made me lend you $20. I want my $30 back or we'll have to go to small claims court for my $40 back.
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>>168554725
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>>168553349
How was jade supposed to rule for this rotation if combo was alive

Golems are. A girls best friend
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>>168554467
>debit card
>library card
>book token
>national insurance numbercard
>check-in card for std clinic
>dentist receipts
>buy 9 juices get 1 juice free card (full)
>£4.52 in coins
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>>168555080
this loses to aggro doesnt it?
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>>168550102
So if you already own a regular version, don't craft it. But if you don't own it at all (regular or golden), craft golden.
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>>168555080
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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>>168555234
>£4.52
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I'm really looking forward to the rotation, as the dust that blizzard is giving us will allow me to craft this bad boy.
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>>168555469
>emeror rotating out
>this bad boy seeing play
choose one and only one
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>everyone in wild will now have golden sylvanas and golden rag
>golden swagneros value plummets to shit

this is the darkest timeline
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>>168555469

>Emperor rotating out

What for? Its as good as a brick right now
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>>168555258
Yeah it does. Sometimes you can shit up the board faster than they do and lock them out, but vs. shaman especially it's a 9-1 matchup since you can probably win if they dc for a turn.

Teching in double defender of argus and ooze helps vs. aggro, but it's not like it's a serious ladder deck anyway.
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>>168555537
i play him in wild :)
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So if you have two or more legendaries that are rotating out to Hall of Fame, can you disenchant the extras for full refund?
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>They didn't nerf Auctioneer
>Combo is dead
>Reno is dead


Well guys I hope you enjoy Druids going infinite golems with their fun an interactive Fandral+Auctioneer Jade Idol spam

The new meta is going to be Jade and everyone else going aggro to kill Jade before their golems get too big. So I guess it's like now but without Reno or Rogue decks.

How the fuck did Team 5 look at Jade Idol and say "This is okay"? With one good cycle turn it just invalidates Fatigue damage so while you're running out of steam and top decking shit they're top decking a 10/10, 11/11, 12/12, etc.
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>>168549005
>>I don't have a lack of self control it's just the game that is shit
>t. reynoodlies
>>168550207
>>this raycunt autism
>NOPE

What's going on? Is the beta uprising finally starting?
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>>168555592
>>168555537
>respectfully innervates, moonfires and living roots towards you
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>>168555685

No
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>>168555856
Isn't living roots rotating out together with Emp?
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>>168555775
he whined about his declining amount of viewers then made autistic sperg outburst about he already having explained everything for an hour when his subs asked him what was wrong, repeatedly
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If you have regular version but not golden, is it worth crafting the golden? I think I fucked up by making a golden Ice Lance when I only had one, but lots of regular Ice Lances.

My autism.
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>>168555537
Technically you can still otk with malyrogue even without emperor. It's just you can't cycle too well when you need to keep preps and coins for the combo, and expect to get fucked by dirty rat every once in a while.
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>>168555950
>respectfully sinister strikes, coins, preps and eviscerates towards you
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>>168555856

>Living roots
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>>168556052
Isn't rogue rotating to the graveyard before turn 10?
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>>168555469
And never play it
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Any EU bro wanna complete each other's quests? fast ones such as class victories only. instaconcede
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>>168556029
i dont think you realzie how big of a problem this is. I played malyrogue and maybe 1/5 games where id win i would not need to play thaurissian before malygos, You just cant cycle well without useing all of those cards
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>>168556140
/hsg/bearers always say this
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>>168556194
I realize, that's why I said technically and mentioned it in the post.
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>>168555952

Oh. That's not very juicy gossip especially since I don't watch him anyway. Was hoping more along the lines of being caught in a sissy white boi ring or reeing over the standard format changes or something.

>>168556014

Not especially. You get the playable max worth for the bonus dust, so if you have 1 gold and 8 normal ice lances, you get bonus dust for 1 gold and 1 regular ice lance. If you give a shit about wild (And why the fuck would you) you can craft golds for the fucked cards for "Free", but if you're just looking to maximize your shekel gain then there's no point crafting the golds.
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>>168556140
>respectfully barnes into malygos, arcane shots and kill commands towards you
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>>168556347
So I costed myself one regular common card, I think. Not a big deal. We're all still getting massive dust either way.
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>>168556271
Just think about it.
Rogue loses STB, Tomb Pilager and Conceal.
Unless they get some damn good shit, Rogue needs a miracle to happen to be playable.
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>>168556392
Didn't Hunter rotate out into oblivion?
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>>168556496

You lost nothing assuming you're going to disenchant that gold ice lance after the dust refund hits.

Had you crafted nothing, you would have gotten 80 dust (The full value of two regular ice lances) free when the update hits.

Since you crafted a gold ice lance, you spent 400 dust, will earn 440 dust (Full value of one gold and one regular) dust when the update hits, and can earn 40 dust (Regular value of one gold) when you disenchant the gold ice lance.

You end up with 80 dust "Profit" either way.
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>>168556668
>respectfully malygoes, lightning bolts, lavabursts towards you (created by far sight)
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>>168557019
thats only 18dmg lol
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>>168557068
you can far sight into two lavabursts (or malygos), you know.
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>>168556162
i play wild :)
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>>168545689
>Hey guys, buy a bunch of packs and get dust to get your FREE(TM) LEGENDARY
Get it if you have the dust, but don't fall for their ploy. You're not getting a leg up on them by buying 60 packs.
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>>168556515
every class that uses STB is losing it
every class is losing cards
every class will gain cards that have not been revealed yet

please don't try to predict anything
>>
Ben Brode posted that they are considering un-nerfing Molten giant.
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>>168557740
and moving it to wild alongside. dont leave that out
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>>168557730

>every class will gain cards that have not been revealed yet
Only shaman will get good cards though
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>>168557730
THIS
H
I
S
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>>168557785
too bad nobody owns a molten giant anymore lol
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>>168557740

Fucking Brode, sware on me mam.

Incidentally, been a long ass time since I poked my head in here. Have the weebs always been so desperate to get players for the panty sniffing card game that they included /hsg/ in their OPs?
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So we can get free 3450 free dust when these cards rotate out?
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>>168557785
why are you so scared and reluctant to play the superior format?
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>>168558121

I still get PTSD every time I see a piloted shredder in arena. Never again.
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>>168556515
>shakku into shadow sensei curve
>lotus assassin
>whatever broken stealth shit next xpac

Just wait, midrange stealth rogue will be tier 0

:^)
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>>168558121

I don't want cards like Mad Scientist and Dr. 7 to ever speak to me or my wife's son ever again
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>>168545052
Holy shit I am an absolute retard. Can somebody please explain this in an even simpler way? Please. Not even sarcasm by the way, I seriously don't get it.
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>>168558217
4mana 4/3 summon 4/4
but its balanced because it coul,d have been doomsayer
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>>168558351
are you retarded?
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>>168558258
those are arena cards anon
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Soon
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>>168558351
Tell us which rotating cards you own and if you care about golden cards.
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>>168558351

Fire bad. Dust good.

>>168558484

Even doomsayer isn't that bad assuming you did your sequencing right and didn't play a bunch of shit out of your hand and THEN make your trades. Just means you'll get a clean board to shit everything out next turn.

Still been fucked by shredder doomsayers but still. Never want to fucking see that card again. Possibly the single most infuriating card they've had in the game as far as my autism is concerned.
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>>168558581
I clearly said I am. Maybe the fact that I am not a native english speaker may help the fact I just don't get it.
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>>168558484
>>168558121
>be ahead on board
>pop enemy shredder
>"THE END IS COMING"

I am never, NEVER playing wild again. Nothing can make me go back.
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>>168558351
Blizzard is giving you full dust value for any classic cards that they're rotating WITHOUT you having to disenchant them.

Let's pretend you have no cards and 1600 dust.

You craft Ragnaros, you now have 0 dust.

When he rotates out, Blizzard GIVES you his dust value, so you're back to 1600 dust AND you have Ragnaros.

If you disenchant Ragnaros, you now have 2000 dust. Or, you keep him, and you got a free Legendary out of it.
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>>168558643
It's shaman, isn't it?
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>>168558947
i kn ow what you mean, aty least we get abusied more consistently with 6/2 fiery waraxe
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>>168558962

By this same note, you should craft as many copies of Conceal as you possibly can. It's basically a free license to print dust when standard format rolls over. The more you can spend now the more you'll get when it happens.
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>Free dust and now Reddit is sucking Team 5's dick

And that's why the game will never be balanced
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Blizzard needs to give us free gold every day until they implement the upcoming changes. 90% of opponents are shamans and the game is fucking unplayable in this state. It's so disgustingly horridly broken and mangled I don't know who the fuck decided it was okay to create a game like this. I fucking hate every single time I queue up, I just want my gold so I can actually possibly play the game someday down the line but Blizz just fucked everything so bad that it's impossible. Thank you you stupid fucking nigger fucks for ruining this game for me, fuck you
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>>168559093
It's Kun'Thun Druid
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>>168558258
God that card was great in the previous brawl where you get spells equal to the cost of the minion.

>>168558034
I have one. After over a year of playing, unpacked only a golden one. I hope they unnerf him and move him to wild. Get 1600 dust which is just enough for Malganis so that I can play wild warlock.
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>>168559119
Show us your crafted conceals anon
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>>168559093
>tfw got golden shaman in vanilla hearthstone
>everybody thinks i got it as aggro shitter
I mean I mostly play aggro now but still!
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>>168559189

With people playing jade bullshit? You've got bigger balls than me, anon.
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>>168559119
>craft as many copies of Conceal as you possibly can
You're only reimbursed dust for two.
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Okay I'm back from my thing. Thank you for moving the thread discussion to this one so people can get information on upcoming /hsg/ events. I actually really appreciate it.

There are currently 8 people signed up for the NA tournament (the bare minimum) and 4 people signed up for the EU tournament. I'm really happy to see the general come together and do cool shit like this. Love you guys, so so much.

I'm gonna look to do a test stream to make sure shit still works and talk over some basic rules or gimmicks some time tomorrow, so keep an eye open for that.
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I have a common and a golden rag. does that mean i get a golden rag 3200 dust value? i don't wanna risk getting jewed
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>>168558729
I have:
1 ragnaros
1 sylvanas
2 drakes
2 PO
3 ice lance
3 conceal

Not even one golden
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>>168559119
Do NOT listen to this guy. As funny as it would be to watch you lose your entire dust reserve, I am opposed to giving Blizzard free money for any reason.

Blizzard will not award dust for more copies of a card than you can fit into a deck. So, since you can fit two conceals into a deck only, the MOST dust you can get is the dust for two GOLDEN conceals. Any additional conceals you craft can only be enchanted for less dust than you invested, and you will be losing dust.
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>>168559248
Only new shitters would think that. You got it while botting like the rest of us.
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>>168558351
If you own the lego that is rotating out, don't do anything. If you don't, craft a golden one, if you can't, craft a regular one.

If you own 2 copies of each non-lego cards that are rotating out, don't do anything. If you don't, craft golden until you have 2 of them in total, if you can't, craft regular until you have 2 in total.
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>>168559246

There you are friend.

>>168559283

I wasn't aware we were on Reddit.
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>>168559174
>tfw I laughing at this but I know exactly how it feels
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name one (1) deck that beats midrange jade shaman.
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what's that song with the trumpet in all of the hs videos
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>>168559496
Brokentooth March
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>>168559489
midrange jade shaman
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>>168559594
cmon you know thats not the one
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>>168559496
Epic sax guy? I mean the name is different but that's how you find him on youtube. The rest of the song is okay.
>>
Does golden get priority reimbursement over normal?
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>>168559689
I actually don't know since I have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>168559441
Now include your duplicate card dust count an owned:x search filter.
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>>168559770
yes
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>>168559489
Dragon Priest.
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>>168559706
found it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIIOza9ZaXw
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>>168558351
>Scenario 1
Let's say you don't have Sylvanas. In this case it would be good to craft a Golden Sylvanas using 3.200 Dust because you will get the crafting dust back AND get to keep the card to use in Wild, or just straight-up disenchant her afterwards for an extra 1.600. In this scenario, from the start you earn either
a)that golden legendary
b)1.600 Dust
at no expense of yours.

>Scenario 2
Let's say you already have a non-golden Sylvanas. In this case it would be better to do nothing, because by doing nothing you get either
a)1.600 Dust AND you get to keep the card for play in Wild
b)2.200 Dust total from the refund, plus disenchanting the newly transitioned card

Replace Sylvanas with Ragnaros and the same scenarios still apply. I say you don't even need to bother overthinking the Rare and Common cards though.

And of course it is best to wait until the last week of the Year of the Kraken (~April, certain day is not known yet), in case you might open a Sylvanas in the meantime through bought packs, brawl rewards or arena rewards.
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>>168559793

Clever girl.
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>>168559392
If you do NOTHING, you will get 3640 dust.
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>>168559392

>tfw golden sylvanas, 2 golden lances, golden drake and a golden PO
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>>168559840
not even close. shaman can easily survive a dragonfire potion and drops huge jades every single turn, can hex anything with a lot of health, and azure drake singlehandedly beats priest anyway
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>>168559908
That's a shitty remix. It starts out nicely but then turns terrible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy1B3agGNxw

With a loop.
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>>168560058

>Regular Rag, Sylvanas, 2 golden PO, 1 regular 1 gold lance, 1 regular 1 gold conceal, 2 drake
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>>168559971
Well put.

Is there any point in crafting a golden if you have regular but do not care for golden? I'm guessing not.
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>>168560121
yawn
the remix is better
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>>168560312
Golden legendary no because they cost 2x a regular legendary

commons and rares yes because they are 4x and 8x the non golden version. So much so that it's beneficial to DE some cards (depends how much dust you're sitting at) to craft golden
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REMINDER TO CRAFT TWO GOLDEN AZURE DRAKES EVEN IF YOU HAVE ALREADY 2 NORMAL ONES.
YOU KNOW YOU'LL END UP PLAYING WILD SOMEDAY AND THAT CARD IS GOAT. GOLDEN GOAT.
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>>168561169
>YOU KNOW YOU'LL END UP PLAYING WILD SOMEDAY

Ben Brode pls go
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>>168559260
But Kun'Thun beats Jade unless they get the perfect draw of rolling 5+ jades by turn 5 or your combo pieces are on the very bottom of the deck

You have a potential of 88 damage in one turn, it kills fucking everything
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Hire me Ben Broseph.
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>>168561457
>You have a potential of 88 damage in one turn

You'll have to walk me through that one 'cause I'm not seeing it. Unless you're talking some Aviana shenanigans. You could play Aviana, Kun, Cthun, then start bouncing Cthun with pandas and NYOH MY GOD I WISH I HAD AN AVIANA NOW.

Not enough to actually craft her but that does sound fun.
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Sooooooooo, why are they rotaton Azure Drake? What did he do wrong?
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>>168561843
*rotating
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So the dustaning happens around June/July?
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>>168561843
too good
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>>168561843

Was a staple 2-of in almost every single deck since closed beta. He was too good of a boy and he diddu too much.

I still wouldn't say that's enough reason to fuck him because there are always some staple cards, but that's the reasoning anyway.
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>>168561843
>>168561919

He did literally nothing wrong. He was just too good for too long.

Cycle card when you need draw.
Good drop on 5 that doesn't die to 1 drops, yet also doesn't commit to board wipe because it's only a 4/4, and drew you a card.
Incredible topdeck on 10 mana to give you a 5 mana play, as well as the card you drew to round out the curve. Often better than even dropping an 8.
Applies spell damage to Spirit Claws, Maelstrom, Swipe, all burn spells.

Just a ridiculously versatile card that can be played for so many different roles.
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>>168561643
>Aviana
Of course, that's the whole combo of Kun'Thun.

Considering you already played the two Disciples in the deck, your C'Thun should be at 10/10. From this point, my combo was most often this: playing Aviana, Kun, Brann, double Dark Arakkoa. Here, your C'thun is at 22/22. Since you play him with Brann on the table you get 44 damage, and you double that if you have a Youthful Brewmaster in your hand (can't play more than this because your board now has 7 minions). Boom, 88 damage.

I actually crafted Kun just to play this deck and after 100 wins I decided to take it to Golden at low-ish ranks where I don't die by turn 5 but meet a lot of control decks, dunno how it fares from rank 10 upwards but I'm guessing Not Good.
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>>168561843
being in every shaman, rogue, druid, and dragon deck
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>>168561964
>[Deleted]
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WHEN IS THE NEXT EXPANSION?

WHEN THIS "MOVE TO WILD" SHIT HAPPENS?

WHEN WILL BE THE NERFS GO LIVE?

WHENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN?
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>>168562467
eventually
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>>168562467
not announced
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>>168562426
He probably deleted it because he was wrong about the common cards, it takes 800 to craft both instead of 110
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>>168562467
soon™
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Year of the mammoth? More like year of the fuck F2P players.
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>>168562368

I had never heard of Kun'thun before, so that's why it didn't strike me until you mentioned huge burst and I thought about it for half a second to figure out how it was possible. That's a pretty cool deck concept, since I haven't got Aviana I always just play arcane giants/Kun when I dick around with Cthun druid. Still usually works out well since you usually have enough big minions to be threatening to control, but it isn't nearly as cool as with Aviana.

And yeah, the meta gets increasingly more aggressive the higher you go. I tend to stay low rank too because I like playing fun decks more than winning, don't tell anyone so it would be kinda rough after a while.
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>>168563383
why do you say that?
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>>168563494
For nearly 3000 gold you could buy an adventure set, which basically was several epics, legendaries, rares and shit, most of the time of meta defining or very playable

Now you get less than 30 packs, which don't even guarantee a single legend
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>>168563494
f2p cucks don't have rag or syl to get free dust from
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does this look balanced to any1?
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>>168563752

>Free dust
>You still effectively lose Rag and Syl because they're not in the wild ghetto

Ayyyyyyyyy
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>>168563494

It's a lot easier to grind enough gold to buy an adventure than it is to grind enough gold/dust for an expansion
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>>168563823
what are you talking about?
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>>168563706
>>168563824
so they're removing the card rewards from adventures and just giving packs instead? if that's the case, it's jewish as fuck. it's a complete downgrade from the old system.
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>>168564107
you people are crazy
locking common/rare cards behind multi-thousand gold paywalls is the most jewish thing team 5 ever did and I'm coming back to the game exclusively because they announced they'd stop doing it
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>>168564290
>Pay 700 gold
>Get a legendary, epics and rares

>Pay 700 gold
>Get maybe one rare if you are lucky an several duplicates

Which one is more jewish?
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>>168564290
the thing is, the cards were guaranteed. getting guaranteed legendaries alone for 2800 gold is insane value especially since you can dust all the cards you dont want and craft something else.
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They're clearly cutting out adventures so they can be more cost efficient and spend less time designing levels and impactfull cards so they can go straight into generating 110/130 stat filler shit
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>>168564107
No, we will not get more adventures period. Not even "free".
They stated that they "lose" quite a bit of time and resources creating them in the first place, that's why they claim the game will be better without them

You want new cards? Buy booster packs.
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>>168564290

Just ignore them, people will complaint about everything in here

I hate Team 5 and all the shit they have been doing for the last year and a half but getting rid of adventures is the best decision they ever made

I'm f2p and I usually get 60 packs each set when they drop and that's generally enough to make most of the decks I wanna play
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>>168564424
>Pay 2100 gold
>Get the one card that interests me, and a bunch of filler
>Pay 0 gold and use random saved dust
>Get the one card that interests me
you tell me which one is more jewish

>>168564476
>the cards were guaranteed. getting guaranteed legendaries alone for 2800 gold is insane value
placing that much value on the guarantee is being way too pessimistic about your luck IMO
if you're not willing to trust RNGsus to give you adequate value from packs, how are you going to be willing to trust RNGsus to give you draw/mulligan luck?
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>>168564820
No you're not and no you do not
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>>168564864
You can craft "that one card that interests you" without having to buy the adventure. What's your point?

>RNGsus
>>>/reddit/
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>>168564864
>placing that much value on the guarantee is being way too pessimistic about your luck IMO
i know it's bait but that was pretty funny desu
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Wait, so they're removing adventures all-together and all expansions will just be "buy packs"?
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>>168565740
yes
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>>168565740
Precisely
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>>168565740
Yup

The free2play model is not possible anymore unless you dedicate quite a bit of planeation into it
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>>168565740
yes, also longer intervals between releases from now on
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>>168565859
>>168565816
>>168565814
>>168565810
As a purely F2P player, I don't mind at all. How come everyone (redditors?) are complaining about it? Granted, adventures were cool and I enjoyed all of them but who cares? Is there really some jewish scheme behind all of this?
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>>168565945
redditors will complain no matter what. expansions are much better for f2p players
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>>168565945
Because you generally get more value from adventures per gold.
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>>168566213
I guess I'm just not some tight ass. Yet again, my care for this game is next to nil. Perhaps those who take it seriously would get upset more easily.
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>people who spend dozens of a hours of week on a game can't afford to spend $15 every 4-6 months on an adventure

lol?
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There is no way as a f2p player you prefer slot machine expansions over getting to play with the same cards every else is using
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>>168566274
The people who play this game get upset when they receive what they ask for, such as small time buccaneer getting nerfed
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>>168553507
>more 100g quests were added
>i haven't seen one in months
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>>168565945
Because they (redditors) are "worried" about casual players, people who will hardly make 400 gold in a week because they only log in one or two times every two or three days to do quests and maybe try a fun deck.

I'm a """"hardcore"""" f2p myself, and I seriously don't mind this, I make about 100~120g every day and I usually start saving 2 months before the expansion comes. This leads me to getting around 5k when the expansion hits, which is usually a very good start.
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>>168565945
>>168566192
>>168566213
>>168566274
>>168566309
>>168566331
>>168566340
Adventures
>Pay from 2100 to 2800 gold (700 per wing) depending how long the adventure is
>Get several legendaries
>Get several epics
>Get several rares and commons
>Most of the time, said cards were meta defining
>You also could get the Heroic Card Back

Packs (no longer adventures)
>Buy 21 to 30 packs
>No guaranted legendary (pity timer it's on 40)
>No guaranted epic
>You can get duplicates
>Even if you get a legendary, no guarantee it's the one you want or need

Now, tell how which one is better for f2p?
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>>168566448
expansion
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>>168566448
Of course this much is obvious.

Any word on them making the RNG or packs any better?
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have they even confirmed you won't also be able to get cards through adventures? I think they just said they're combining adventures and expansions into one release 3x a year (but no adventure content in the next one)
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>>168566448
sh-shut up! r-reddit!
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So they're going to make some blatantly broken shit next expansion that you simply must have
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>>168566642
yes, just like with every set
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>>168566642
That's what brode said
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>Hall of fame bullshittery
>lel it's fine we're getting dusts!
like fucking pottery
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call this shit for what it is, what blizzard is so desperately avoiding to say

these are BANS
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>>168566448
>insufferable autist and avatarfag on /svg/
>insufferable autist and avatarfag on /hsg/
like pottery
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>>168565945
You're literally a brainless mongoloid or Ben Brode if if you're seriously arguing against the excellent value of Adventures over Expansions.

You'll realise how big of a retard you are in the next 7 months.
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>>168566919
That's it pajib no mere sheckles for you
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>>168566919

Excuse me but wild is a fun and exciting game mode in the fun and exciting game Hearthstone that lets you play all the fun cards in fun combinations in a fun separate but equal environment.
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>>168566642

The decks they want us to play will be complete shit while in a matter of hours the tryhard autists will identify and exploit a few blatantly broken cards that the testers somehow missed
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Cutting out adventures wouldn't even be that big of a deal if 50% of an expansion wouldn't be fucking filler

How it should be
>hey cool a legendary
>I'm gonna see what decks I could build around it and have fun going toe to toe with others

How it is
>hey cool a legendary
>nvm it's a Genzo
>who knows when I'm gonna get one of the 3 good legendaries so I can actually stand a chance
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Is it still considered combo deck if it requires your opponent to play something?
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>>168567023
yes, standard mode bans

i, too, occasionally enjoy wild
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>>168567126
use your dust
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>We considered promoting Gadgetzan Auctioneer to Wild instead, but in the end we decided to move Conceal because Auctioneer has proven to be one of the most skill testing cards in the game.
>PROMOTED
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>>168567126

Unfortunately the devs either don't play Hearthstone or never get past rank 17 so they have no fucking clue what will be good or what will be shit. That's why we have so much filler. Doesn't help that they unironically believe the meta will slow down and allow some overlooked cards to see play, something that has never happened in the history of Hearthstone.
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>>168567207
>disenchanting a legendary for 1/4 its value in dust
V A L U E
A
L
U
E
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>>168566950
You're literally a brainless mongoloid or Ben Brode if if you're seriously missing the fact that this is objectively good for the health of the game.

You'll realise how big of a retard you are in the next 7 months.
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So I got 1 normal and 1 golden ragnaros. I get 3200 dust and 1600 dust from dc of the golden rag?
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>>168567126

That's actually a good point. If they remove the garbage cards (Especially the garbage legendaries) then the all-booster-set system wouldn't be entirely awful. It still isn't as reliable as adventures, but you wouldn't be getting a 3 mana Undercity Huckster legendary.
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>>168567363
Post in my fucking thread again and I will kill you
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>Instead of releasing an extra 20 cards with each release just dump adventures instead

What did Zeriyah mean by this
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>>168567207
You need to unpack four bad legendaries to craft one. You'll get 3 legendaries per expansion om average as f2p

>>168567073
>implying they actually play test

Brode just fucking said they just guessed what the effect of the nerfs would be
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>3 expansions per year with 130 cards each for more "deck variety"
>every new expansion will have cards like this one,
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>>168567073
10/10 picture
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>>168567478
>adventure cards
HAHAHA useless
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>>168567478
I heard they're bringing in the guys who made LoE to work on this one
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>>168566950
>One anon doesn't mind the changes
>Therefore he's a bad person
Awful attitude.
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>>168567398
You might need some fresh air i'll show you the door
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>>168567595

Do you want to cast a spell? I want to cast a spell.
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>>168567478
All the current sets are already 80% filler. Hearthstone doesn't need more Expansions for better variety, they could just cut the amount of filler in half and we'd have four times as many playable cards
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What's the fucking point of overload when you give them enough that they can constantly cycle debt over to the next turn
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So when do we get our golden classic lego dust?
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>>168567478
MtG got like 950 new cards in 2016
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Why does reddit always go the yesman mode after all these shit they've done?
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>>168544737
Friendly reminder that Eternal is literally MtG with Hearthstone's interface, stop wasting your time in this general.
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>>168567797
/hsg/ acts the exact same way when a new expansion is released
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I just read the news, this expansion made me rich

>Own 2 Gold ragnaros and 5 non gold
>Own 2 gold sylvanas and 3 non gold
>Own several of the other cards
>Full value out of them and I get full value upon dusting too

Im probably going to use my dust to craft 2 golden rag more and get double dust that way

Blizzard is retarded, we whales are killing this
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>>168567916

That's not how it works, you only get dust equivalent to how many you can put in a deck. You would only get 3200 dust even if you had 100 golden Rags.
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>>168567309
Blizzard employees do not get a Hearthstone account with a full collection so they have no reason or incentive to play the actual game they worked on, save for the 4 people that duel each other on the internal servers to call cards good or bad.
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>>168567835
Eternal lacks polish.
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Fuck it I gave in and spent my gold. At least now I'm set. Guess its alright since I'll be able to create 3 more golden lego when the next set hits, compensating for having less gold till then.
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The funniest thing about this guy arguing for Expansions is that fucking old gods is two sets old and almost none of the cards see any play. Meanwhile like 90% of the guaranteed LOE legendaries have been staples throughout its rotation
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>>168567752

you
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>>168567978
Except I do own several decks, I just put a different ragnaros and sylvanas in each one.
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>>168568053
>almost none of the cards see any play
you what. look at the cards again. you want a list?
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>>168568081
top kek
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>>168568152
yes
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>>168568152
Yes please, do list the 150 cards
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>>168568009
>what is early access

funny you say that though, they just added the hearthstone-style board click inteactions today
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>>168567990

If they are too Jewish to hire testers they can just make a brawl with all the new cards a couple weeks before an expansion/adventure launches and see what the community creates
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>>168567727
you cant play a minion
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>Team 5 only has 4 playtesters who are also balance designers
How many playtesters does MTG have?
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>>168568319
The problem is that the devs and people like you think that counts as polish.
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>>168568053

A card being in an adventure has zero correlation with its viability. Loe cards saw play because they were good cards
Just look at BRM and Onik, out of 10 legendaries barely 3 saw competitive play

At least with a larger card pool the chance for good cards to appear is better
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>>168568053
What does that have to do with adventures and expansions you smoothbrained redditor?
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>>168568598
I can testify that at least 30 for Standard and 30 for limited.
Source: I was friend of one.

Wizards usually pro players to test shit and look for potentital fucks up or to find exploitable shit. One of my friends in Atlanta got hired as one, but was something for like 1 years tops.
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why dont they just stack more cards into each wing
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>>168568626
A larger card pool has nothing to do with more chance ofplayable cards.

80% of all cards are filler already. They just have to properly design ONE set and we'd have more actual cards than the past two years.
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>"hall of fame set" for cards that achieved greatness and will forever be in the pages of history
>it's actually just classic set wild dumpster with a fancy name
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>>168568220
Not him, but I just cross-referenced TempoStorm's Tier 1 decks and found these WotOG cards:
>Flamewreathed Faceless
>N'Zoth's First Mate
>Bloodsail Cultist

That's about it. Out of 134 cards.
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>>168568626
>>168568640
That's the argument the mongoloid makes :)
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>>168568949
good to see someone else can see through corporate talk
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>>168568865
i dont totally agree with that, than it would just be power creep for the next expansion
i think expansions should be 30% viable cards 30% wonky cards
40% slighly understatted tech cards that you can personally fit in the deck depending on current meta.
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>>168568865

They are already addressing this

Amaz was sperging out about filler cards on twitter and Ben Brode replied to him saying they should talk

HS is not a deep game, there's not that much design space for filler cards
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>>168568951
the meta changes, you complete retard
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>>168568951
Wow sure am glad I had to get 150 of those packs for like 70 bucks and 4 months of quest farming to just collect a barely passable amount of the better wog cards. Glad it wasn't an adventure
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I always considered that Adventures were kinda "forced" to have GOOD or REALLY GOOD cards in them because otherwise, how you gonna make them appealing to buy?

Like, adventures NEED to have good shit in order to motivate people to buy them, even more buy them with real money.

That alone secured that the quality of the cards inside the adventures was above the normal average.
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>>168569079
oh and what i mean by 'slighly understatted tech cards'
are cards ;like ooze, loatheb, mctech dirty rat, etc not fucking 5/7 silence dfeathrattle crap
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>>168562184
also dragon synergy
doesnt die to shadow word priest removals
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>>168569151
An expansion that's in rotation for 5 sets has 2/134 cards in relevant most played decks after 2 sets.

>B B But the meta changes!!

Nice argument against Expansions you got there
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>>168569151
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>>168568949
I get free dust so I don't really care what they call it.
I've already been playing wild anyway because fuck this standard meta with a rusty rake. At least in wild I get to meme all over people with turtle.
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>>168568951
Even though it's not on the current Tier 1 meta list I guess you could add in Cabalist's Tome for Reno Mages, Thing From Below for Shamans and Fandral who has become a staple for almost all Druid decks.

But even so, having <10 viable cards in the current meta is pretty damn disgraceful for an expansion pack.
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It's going to be hilarious when during ungoro the only thing left of mean streets is 5 jade cards.
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>>168569234
Adventures were just expansions without all the crap filler cards and had a single player campaign built in
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>>168569996
b-but kazakus mage
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>>168569996
you forgot pirate warrior which loses finely and nerfed smalltime
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>>168568626
I dont think you understand correlation
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>>168570072

Dead without Reno
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>daily login rewards

Just play Pokemon already. It's fucking years ahead of these nignogs at Blizzard
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>>168570005
And only the costing 2 months of gold for 100% cards instead of 4 months of farming gold and at least a 50 pack purchase to scrape the viable expansion content together
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>>168570160
unless they print more reno-effect cards, which given the success of kazakus at least it seems likely
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>>168570210
Reno barely survived before hand

Unless the effect is kill your opponent if you have no duplicates I don't think it will outclass healing to full
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any got a good kazakus hunter deck?
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>>168570345
yeah i mean i honestly don't know what could be worth it but we'll see
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>>168570186

The login rewards seem to be such a desperation move

Other games need to be generous because they don't have the playerbase but if fucking Blizzard is now giving them it just shows how people do not fucking want to play the game
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>>168570210
I think they'll go the way of more cards like kodo, not healing but cards that swing tempo, so we'll have a 1mana fire elemental
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>>168570416
Did Blizzard ever release a playerbase chart for Hearthstone like they did for WoW subscribers?
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>>168570186
I mean winning 5 games for gold really is obnoxious each day, especially when you don't have a deck for the class. The new play x number of x quests are nice though but people just make shitty decks and concede once it's done
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>>168570601
Just in a sense of accounts created I think. Which says fucking nothing.

It's so bittersweet Blizzard stopped showing shareholders their quarterly wow subscribers.
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>>168570601

They did one time, I can't remember exactly, but it was clearly just a facade since a huge portion of that number is people who login once, play two games, and don't play the game for a month + people alternate accounts
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>>168568951
from LoE at quick glance I see tunnel trogg, dark peddler, finnley, brann, reno. Not that much more.

LoE really knocked it out of the park with legendaries though. None of them are insanely overpowered, but all of them have their place and are often deck defining (besides rafaam but he's like the big timmy card for players without ysera). Kara and BRM had one, maybe 2 playable instead of 4
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>>168570397
>kazakus hunter
doesnt work like that
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>>168570416
one day the religion of blizzard will end
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>>168569091
I'm pretty sure Krip sperged about this a year ago. And Brode just said bad cards have to exist you know :)
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>>168570848
what do you mean
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>>168570906
I'm so sorry
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>>168570960
why??
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>>168570857

I can't wait for this day

Hearthstone got away with so much bullshit because of the fucking Blizzard name attached to it, but now Team 5 is in constant damage control mode
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>>168570848
It's so fucking strange man like they release extra reno cards and my favourite reno decks are still rogue and hunter like LOL how do you fuck up this badly, maybe i'm just a hipster idk.
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>>168570797
They also rewarded a wow mount for getting to level 10 orso right beforehand
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>>168570464
I honestly thought dispatch kodo was going to be midrange hunter defining along with rat pack. Its like a prenerf keeper but arguably better! Just proves how awful I am at predicting the meta lol
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>>168568152
Still busy compiling that list of 134 old gods cards sonny?
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>>168570906
kazakus is only for mage lock and priest?????
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>>168571320
oh i didnt know
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>>168571115
>>168570464
You weren't completly wrong, Kodo and Rat Pack are great cards, and they give a lot of fuel to Midrange Hunter.

The problem? Midrange "anything" is dead because is too slow for aggro, and not fast enough to deal with Kaza Reno bullshit.
The cards can potentially see a lot of play in a healthy meta, probably in Ungoro, but this meta is not a good meta for good cards, you need to be "absurd" to be playable.
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>>168571115
don't write them off so soon, they'll be around for a while. blame pirates.
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So this Hall of Meme is coming with the next expansion? Which will be mid this year?
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>tfw only 800 dust
Wat do?
Craft golden conceal?
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I only crafted Aya and Fandral. Turns out jade is the only thing that will remain from msog. Feels good man.

Bet Team 5 never expected jade to stick around. No it was time for handbuff control hunter with the massively understatted piranha launcher :^)
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>>168571731
see
>>168567398
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>>168571453
midrange jade seemed to get through though. probably just because early shaman is retardedly broken and jade just ramps up the threat all game. Dragon priest is arguably midrange too
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Hearthstone secret of the day.

Warrior is part of the Grimy Goons.
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>>168572126
Holy shit pirates aren't one of the three gangs WTF
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>tfw you weasel your way to victory
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>I've got the beast in my sights
who am i
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>>168572561
none of your business
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>>168572705
no that's not what i meant
who says that thing
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>>168572779
stop asking questions
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>>168572779
Big Guy Hunter?
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>>168572561
>>168572779
fuck off SEAnigger
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>>168572832
yes!
>We must cleanse the sunwell!
now who am i

>>168572813
>>168572865
what the heck guys? and im not south east asian
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>>168572472
>Andufags
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So after the patch drops and I get sweet stacks of dust should I just transfer over to playing wild? How are the decks over there? Anything stupid oppressive?

I don't know anything about wild meta so I think it'll be fun to homebrew my way to the good ranks, it'll be like a whole new game.
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>>168573518

>2018-1
>wild
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>>168573540
That's so unhelpful anon
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>>168573618

wilds meta got more awful with every single release since it started last year

only good time was secret pallies because of how easy they were to counter
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>>168573518
wild is the alpha format. it only gets better as more sets come out
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>>168573518
you knopw how your opponent has that overpowered 1mana 4/3 or that 1mana 3/3 weapon? imagine cards this broken being in every mana slot against every deck
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>>168573518
There's a little bit of everything before the rank5 to legend grind when it devolves into secret cancer, and other flavors of cancer. It's so much more fun than standard to that point though.
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>>168574369
That's okay I don't often get past 5 anyway

On my craft list is Kel Thuzad and Dr. Boom obv, then lightbombs shredders and belchers. Usual wild stuff. What other cards do I want?
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WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ONLY RELEASE EXPANSIONS INSTEAD OF ADVENTURES FROM NOW ON WHICH WILL MAKE THE GAME MORE EXPENSIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>168574492
>more expensive
only if you want every single fucking card you colossal retard. Craft the cards you really need
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>>168574492
Sorta, you can't craft adventure cards from dust so if you want a card from the final chapter it's a minimum $20 investment. You can you get the card with dust if everything is expansion based.
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>>168574492
Because adventures set a bar of requiring broken ass shit to sell the adventure. By only releasing expansions instead they can tone the power level on everything down.
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>come back after months
>a bunch of classes are losing core cards including neutrals
>shaman losing nothing

this game is garbage
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>>168574492
DE cards you don't need from wild.
Craft them. You have like 2 free leggos with the new expansion. And the way Blizzard makes expansions, one expac will have 3-4 viable leggos.
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I mean these changes as a whole seem "good" but if you stop to think it

- Blizzard will now rotate away every classic card that is too strong
- Hence all strong/meta-defining cards will come from expansions or adventures
- But adventures are gone
- Therefore, instead of blowing $20 on an adventure and getting some 40-50 cards including a bunch of legendaries and some epics you now have to blow that money on packs and PRAY you get any of the good legendaries

Basically Blizzard has diluted even more the pool of good cards. Opening packs already feel like shit because a expansion can be up to 80% filler, and now it's only going to be filler-full expansions as the only way to obtain cards.
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>>168574598
I've always bought a complete collection. I spend an average of $300 per expansion but only whatever amount the adventures are for adventures.

If they don't implement something to offset the game I'm done despite having spent over $1,500 on this game already. I'll just go to shadowverse.
>>168574627
$20 isn't bad compared to fucking $300
>>168574842
>DEing cards I spent full money on for partial dust.
No thanks
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>>168574871
Aka how do we jew the playerbase without outright jewing them.
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>>168574824
Current Shaman lists will be somewhat intact after the rotation. Tunnel Trogg, Totem Golem, TB Valiant, Healing Wave, Ancient Knowledge (I think), Lava Shock, all gone.

Mid-Jade Shaman is gonna be intact (note that I didn't say "viable" because Un'Goro could totally smash Jade Decks somehow) but lacking the "Pirate Package" because I firmly believe that the loss of STB + the SC nerf will kill the setup for anything other than Rogue.
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>>168574871
>you now have to blow that money on packs and PRAY you get any of the good legendaries
What do you people have against acquiring and expending dust?
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>>168574750
But the problem is set cards rather than expansion cards so far. Also that's a lousy excuse. And adventures containing strong cards is fine since they have many less cards than expansions. The last thing the game needs is EVEN MORE filler.

>>168574627
Spending 2800g on an adventure and dusting it is still a better investment than 28 packs, so I don't see the problem here. Just dust everything else.
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>>168575030
>adventures containing strong cards is fine since they have many less cards than expansions
that's every bit as bad as an excuse because every adventure then pollutes the card pool with OP bullshit for an entire rotation.
Instead they need to go the other way and reduce the overall power level of cards because if every card is filler tier then no card is filler.
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>come back after not playing for months
>use my meme reno cthun nzoth rogue deck I never updated
>reno 5 times on a shaman
what is with this meta. Rank 20 to 10 is mid range or slower, rank 10 and under is aggro town.
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>>168575320
Agree, hyper optimized decks play themselves. The card pool being generally shit gives players leg room to innovate and personalize their decks.
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>>168575390
>hyper optimized decks play themselves. The card pool being generally shit gives players leg room
except they will never make the entire cardpool that shit, they'll always accidentally let through the one optimized card that makes an autopilot deck around it, it's better policy to accept that strong cards will exist and try to have a diversity of strong cards even if that makes games degenerate
if there were other archetypes enabled/broken as much as patches/reno were, this meta would be a lot more tolerable
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>>168575569
TGT got close, but the degeneracy of GvG spoiled it.
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>paladin is the weakest class

oh shut the fuck up, I just went up against a faggot small dick paladin in casual mode that had 5 cards that added 1/1 to all his cards by turn 10 and all this broken shit.

This game is fucking pay to win fucking trash stop being a virgin and play magic.
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>Nearly 500 posts in 7 hours.

We're back boys!
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>>168568626
>3/4 legendaries in BRM saw play
thats not bad
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>>168566950
>a brainless mongoloid or Ben Brode
redundant
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>>168575379

20 to 10 is full of people dumb enough not to play aggro

like myself
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>>168575939
Any class can win if they draw the right cards and you don't. By weakest class, it just means they have lopsided matchups like 70/30. Doesn't mean they never win. It just means they win 30% of the time. The more you know.
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>>168576271

i got a aggro rogue i looked up. gets me drop the ranks pretty quick. Why so many fucking pirates in decks? Its not even the classic pirates either
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I literally got 30-0 by fucking weapons to the face Like he played no minions and all burn, when I said I wanted a deck revolving around using your hero this is not what I meant.
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>>168568626
Onik had 5 legendaries and out of those 3 saw play and 2 were garbo (moroes and malch)

3 playable legendaries, one fun legendary and one shitty legendary is not a bad ratio
compare to msog which has 3 good legendaries(soon to be 2) and the rest is shitty or super fringe

I'd rather spend 2800 and have those 5 legendaries guaranteed than open 28 packs. I opened 50 packs when the game out and got a krul and a beardo, wow that's really useful and let's me play a lot of good decks hhehe
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>>168576357
Patches, deck thinning is real even though reynad says it isn't.
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Haven't followed HS for a while, cool to see that even though some OP classic cards are getting rotated they're just giving you the dust + you get to keep the card

Kind of disappointed to see there's no adventures though, guess I have to start grinding for more gold. I would say adventures typically have higher quality cards but with how Karazhan was I guess they just decided "why not just do an expansion if all we have is filler"
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>>168576479
>reynad says it isn't
jesus, has the man never played fetch lands before?
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>>168576565
karazhan actually had a lot of good cards, it failed to shake the meta because the best class got the best cards

but that doesn't mean it had bad cards
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>>168576593
He did, but he fetched them from his sleeves so of course he doesn't understand the implication on decks.
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>>168576593
>has the man never played fetch lands before?
fetchland deck thinning is mathematically proven to be irrelevant, even if patches deck thinning perhaps hasn't
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>>168576663
BRUTAL
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>still no new features or modes
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Any viable C'thun decks to play in Standard? I feel like it can still kinda be fun at least to Rank 15, but idk what to do.
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>>168576724
Its not irrelevant but it is very minor. Its more like that you get added bonus of a tiny amount of thinning on top of their other pros
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>>168576878
It is literally impossible to code new modes into the client. It can't be done. They tried once and that's Purify came to be.
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>>168576663

Oh god, thanks anon, haven't laughed that much in a while
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>>168577067
At least I can make someone happy.
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>>168576948

this guy here
>>168575379
heres my outdated meme deck. It still plays surprisingly fine but can use some new cards.
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>win 5 games as paladin or priest
>even in casual it's "WHO GOES THERE" "IM IN CHARRRGE HERE"
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>>168577947
I am tempted to craft Shadowcaster just to have some meme Reno games
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>>168578139

Its not needed but I pulled off some neat stuff with her.
>brann+shadowcaster targetting brann
>drop a tiny brann beside any value body to waste their removals, or punish them next turn if they dont.
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0 mana 1/1 charge divine shield

nice game heartbabs
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>>168578091
Just play dragon or reno priest
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It's kind of crazy how people forget that Blizzard is a company that runs a business in which the goal is to make and increase profit. We are not entitled to anything and I am grateful to just have a game that I can play on my free time without spending any money.

I have been a F2P since out of beta (have not even bought the welcome bundle) and can make pretty much any competitive deck that I want (and have always been able to). Sure these changes are going to make it a bit more difficult for myself and other F2Ps, but in the end we will catch up so it doesn't really matter.
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>>168579512
It's kind of crazy how Blizzard pays shills to post on a Mongolian carpet knitting forum instead of using the money to hire more people in their balance team.
>>
What's your favorite shill excuse for Blizzard making an already ridiculously expensive and p2w game even more?

I'm torn between
>They NEED to make money guys
and
>You don't actually need more than 20% cards so it's irrelevant
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>>168579512
fucking shill
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>No combos
>No playing around cards anymore
>No conserving health
>No counting potential damage from enemys hand
>race to the face
>Just curvestone

Wow, Im surprised they were able to make the game even more casual.

The dusting was just a ruse
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2015 1 expansion 2 adventures = ~$410

2016 2 expansions 1 adventure. = ~$740

2017 3 expansions 0 adventures. = ~ $1080
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WHO GOES THAR'
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>>168579512
what the fuck did you copy paste this from reddit, when the fuck did 'they're a business' become a justification for malicious business practices.
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>>168579879
food and shelter
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>Adventures are gone now
>Have to open packs and hope you don't get trash

Now we have to hope every expansion is GvG or WOTG tier.
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I do not like this. At all.

I spent literally $500 on the last expansion, yes I am serious.

But I am not willing to buy so many expansions that will simply rotate out at the speed of sound. I have other shit to buy. Throwing $500 at an expansion was alright when it was 2 and felt like an investment (IE: GvG).

Now you rotate out expansions? A sour taste in my mouth.

Now you randomly remove classic cards? Another sour taste in my mouth.

Now you want to do 3 ($1500/year)? No.

NO.

As someone who is a "cash cow" to some minor degree ($500 / expac isn't much I know), I absolutely put my foot down. Combine rotating sets with removing classic cards to adding a full new expansion and my answer is simple: HELL TO THE FLIPPING HELL NO.
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>>168580891
>Now you rotate out expansions?
This has been known since Standard started. Why the fuck did you spend 500 dollars knowing it will eventually happen.

500 dollars is a high end graphic card or a PS4 + 5 games enabling you to play plenty of games more enjoyable than HS for the game value.
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>>168580891

If you're going to throw that much money into a game at least go play MTG, at least you can sell your cards

>Throwing $500 at an expansion was alright when it was 2 and felt like an investment
>Investment

HS is a sinking ship, and each penny you throw at them is as good as dead, specially since there's not trading
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>>168580891
>Spending $500 per expac without getting many times that back in twitch sub money.

You're either baiting, or are one of those idiots who squander their lottery winnings in 6 months and live on the street instead of saving and investing the bulk to live very comfortably for the rest of your life.

Fuck even if I had a million a year income I wouldn't drop $500 per expac.
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>>168581293
>>168581187
>>168581028
It's from reddit. I thought at least that much would be obvious.
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>>168581293
it's a reddit repost anon
redditor arent known to be smart
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>>168581326
We have gone too far
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>>168579512
This either pasta or expertly crafted b8
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a 1mana 2/2 that heals you for four is not good enough in this meta LOL
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>>168581293
>Im poor
Lol
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>literally 8 rolls in a row without getting spell power totem once
>queue ">playing shaman you deserve" responses as everyone pretends like they don't either
plus it was a shaman mirror so he should have deserved bad luck too
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>>168582328
you both don't deserve to live
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Can someone make a Bogdanof edit of Ben Brode?
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Does Cunnyverse have combo decks?
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>>168582547
Show me your level 1 shaman then.
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>>168582557
Yes, plenty.
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>>168582557
The meta is basically a 33% pie of combo, aggro/tempo and control.
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>>168582615

Might as well migrate then

Are those expensive or viable?
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And here I am still playing midrange shaman from Kharazan because lmao no Aya and Patches.

But I got Niggerfogger and other unplayable shit from 80 Gadgetzan packs saved up with gold.

Once this new cycle hits I think it's time to leave for me. I'ts been fun.
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>>168582726
>I'ts been fun

Not it has not
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>There are literal shieldbearers in this thread who thought azure drake would remain untouched
:^)
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>>168582869
Oh believe me Azure Drake has been OP for years, I think it's kind of funny that Gadgetzan was basically pumping dragon priest full of steroids only for it to be complete garbage (like anything that's not pirate or jade or reno), and then be massively gutted next expansion with the loss of BRM and now Azure Drake
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>>168582869
We were hoping they wouldn't touch classic cards to create "design space".
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>>168582869
>tfw I started the bandwagon of hating on azure drake
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>>168582869
I find it disappointing that Sylv and Rag got dumpstered.
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>>168582993
No fuck those cards, I crafted them and even I hate how ubiquitous those game swinging pieces of shit are
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>>168582702
I will tell you how many cards each type of deck needs, you do the math

Daria, the best tempo/aggro deck in the game, needs only 3 legendaries and 3 gold (epic) cards, the rest are silvers (rares) and commons.
In HS terms, 7200 dust.

Roach OTK, the best combo deck in the game, needs from 3 to 5 legendaries (most deck only 3) and 3 golds (epics), and the rest are commons and silver.s
So again, like 7600 to 10800 hs dust.

Control decks like Saha Dragon usually need a fuckton of legendaries, some versions even use 12 legendaries along many epics and shit.
Decks like those cost from 50k to 70k dust.

Now here's the deal, dust comes much more easier on that game, you get about 90 free packs if you do all the free stuff, and you can also buy premade decks with several legendaries and golds.

Like if you want you can go directly and buy roach combo, and you get special art legendaries that only come in the deck.
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>>168582993

I don't
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>>168583120

>Started playing january
>I already have 25 leggos and 6k dust sitting around

Man, its almost like they wanna design a game where the player likes the game
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>>168583184
This cant be real

Surely theres a catch
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>>168580483
Since shills succesfully inserted an anti-consumer mindset in the consumer bases in the video game industries.

The video game industry is the only place where I see paying customers willfully shoot themselves in the foot and defend anything companies do, and calling demanding more (which is what customers have to do in a fucking free market) being "entitled".
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>>168583395
Anime artstyle and meh interface. That's all. I find it hillarious that HS players get excited that they lose best value per money proposition when I can play SV f2p and easily be competitive.
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>>168583395
>>168583184
This is my collection, picture sightly outdated since I pulled another like 2 more legendaries this week.
I started playing on October 2016.

I was free2play till december when they released the starter decks and I bought a single starter deck for the alternate art legendary and cardback, and I haven't spend more money after that.

You get a shit ton of dust, legendaries, free packs and shit just by doing dailies and login every day.
You get 3 daily quests each day after all, not 1, and some quest gives you a free pack.
This game is really f2p friendly, I mean, I can even build ANY control deck, even the 100k ones, and I haven't spend a single cent on packs.

The catch is that people can't stand the anime style.
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>>168583395
The art style

But they're right, I don't play the game since I just can't get into it but I logged on to open some free packs and got like 3 legendaries by opening free shit before even playing a game
>>
>tfw you guys actually literally called this shit
I just heard the news, havent played in a long time but I remember you guys talking about them doing some shit like this to Drake and Rag/Sylvanas.
>>
>>168583675

In the first week of playing I got 3 Neps from the free packs, crafted one Mordecai and voila I had a semi-competitive deck

Now look at HS's new player experience...
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>>168583828
>Now look at HS's new player experience...
it's getting better
>>
THIJS ON STREAM STARTED TO REVIEW THE YEAR OF THE MAMMOTH

GET IN HERE
>>
How in the FUCK is this card even REMOTELY close to balanced

If a warrior has two of these by turn 3 you lost. Period, no ifs, buts or what's, you fucking lost and there is literally nothing you can do about it.

The patch isn't going to solve SHIT
>>
>>168584836
Who cares?
>>
>>168584128
How?
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>>168585335
It's balanced because it doesn't exist
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I cant believe Blizzard managed to outjew themselves, I knew they would start removing Classic cards that were good, but they arent even nerfing them to let you get the dust on dupes

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/nerf%20classic%20cards%20every%20rotation/
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>>168585335
Oh right in my fucking rage at playing versus 3 cancer warriors in a row OF WHICH ALL FUCKING THREE DID STB AXE CULTIST CULTIST I FORGOT

WHO ACTUALLY WANTS TO PLAY THIS FUCKING SHIT GAME MORE THAN 5 TURNS ANYWAY
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>>168585335
fiery win axe?
>>
>>168585446
Patches is the problem here.
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>>168585441
>getting free dust
>waahhh dey r jewz! ;_;
lal
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Who else dusting rag when he rotates?
There is no point in playing him in wild because Dr. Boom is just so much better.
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>>168585446
big weapons are cool
>>
>>168585658
oh yes and a 2 mana weapon doing 17 damage to your face while still dropping maxstatted minions on curve for the cost seems extremely fine to me
>>
after talking about these things with my friend who is new and who on principle doesn't want to pay and feels burdened by that because he had already been running into the wall i told him to try weebverse

feelsbadman
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>>168585820
just use ooze
problem solved
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>>168585845
Afting facig what feels like the 80th WHO GOES THAR opening I think im going to give it a try myself too

But I just can't fucking deal with the garbage dub and generic ass art
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>>168585619
You can still do barnes shenanigans in wild anon.
Also the real midrange power is boom into rag.
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>>168585542
this, patches is literally a field card for tribes
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>>168585940
same it's not for me, also hate the long ass animations that splash all over the screen and the board and cards don't feel intuitive but overall it is close to hearthstone still
>>
>>168585940
There's a fucking undub download and guide in the general anon.
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>>168586045
You can turn on simplified animations, it removes all the flash.
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>>168585619
>Dr. Boom is just so much better.
Why not play both? On curve.
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>>168578360
>casual
Nice screenshot, hearthtard.
>>
>place Holy Wrath + Molten Giant into my shitty Paladin deck for meme value
>the very first match
>the first fucking matchup
>I have a truesilver equipped, and the opponent is at 29 health after hitting my minion with a weapon
>in my infinite wisdom I use a Holy Wrath on a Thunderbluff Valiant to try and not die
>25 damage
SOILED IT
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Are those jew fucks at Blizzard really taking away Adventures? Do they expect me to buy their shitty overpriced packs 3 times a year to keep up?

Im fucking done with this game for good, just gonna dust my entire collection.
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>>168586796
that tv got real fucked up
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>>168584836
>Review year of the mammoth

there haven't been any card reveals though what's the fucking point, this kind of speculation is wortheless, even moreso than prerelease card reviews
>>
if i get this right, by playing in shadowverse you get score probably for each win your score goes up
even if you stay at say "rank 20" you will still earn score, every win just gives you some score right and from that you get rewards in a season
where hearthstone gives you a cardback and a card or a few
i just added up all the rewards shadowverse can give during a month for playing ranked:

670g, 800 dust, 3 arena tickets, 5 expansion packs, 4 standard packs, 2 profile icons, 2 cardbacks and as the very last thing 5 standard packs

that's on top of quests, achievements, trickle gold, daily login rewards (180g + pack per week), bonuses like 7 packs a few days ago for whatever reason that was, the one time 60-70 packs for just starting the game, playing 20 private matches against different people = 20 packs, beating all the expert ai gives 14 packs, beating the story missions per class gives a bit of gold, dust and a class card and at the end an arena ticket = at least a pack

you already know what hearthstone lets you earn so easy comparison there don't have to list those. i think it's most important that there will be ways to earn added and i mean meaningful since we already had a very high pay wall, we are moving even further away from that, the small bonuses they hint at are not fundamental at all to come close to breaking even let alone improve the situation
it's really insane and makes me pretty sad
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>>168586767
>Paladin on ladder

sorry I don't feel like a 2% winrate
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>>168587060
Blizzard being Blizzard lets them get away with murder and people will eat it up.
>>
It's pretty nice as an Arena player to not have Adventures around anymore. I go barely infinite in Arena so I don't gain gold from it, Adventure cards were basically the only ones I couldn't possibly get, otherwise I'm drowning in dust and cards.

What really sucks is I recently used up all my dust in holding so I'll have to burn extra cards to get enough to craft all the golden ones I need.
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>>168586929
Yeah really, like how many fucking packs will you need to buy to get the decent cards? Especially with how even more packs seem to be filled with filler garbage.

If they cut out filler then it's less bad but even still 130 packs every 3 months on an average ~50 gold per day is fucking rough, I can barely bring myself to finish play x cards quests because I just do not enjoy the game.
>>
Yu-Gi-Oh just got 5 bullets in the back of its head with the Link bullshit.
C-can I hang out with you guys?
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>>168587605
sure man, just have severe cash upfront and you can hop right into the game and play competitively
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>>168587605
What's the latest YGO meme?
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>>168587704
>severe cash
YGO is probably the jewest of all card games
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Really don't know what I should think about those changes.

On the one hand change is good, on the other hand it won't change that much. Let's hope they bring some new mechanics with the next expansion or put in some risk.


btw. Seeing how they think/said (blizz forum) that Gadgetzan Auctioneer is a skill intense card, I rather doubt it though.
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how do i get max value from this card?
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>>168587940
you play the druid card that heals you for six
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>>168587940
Sideboard it in...oh wait
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What is wrong with you? lol, gaming is an industry. There are people who work there and get payed and deserve to get rewarded!

It's still downright cheap compared to any M:tG Eternal formats, I'm not going to have drop a couple grand to get started in Wild.

Welcome to almost every TCG/CCG ever. This shouldn't surprise anyone.

We are going to get gifted packs in the sets this year as well...

They are planning on giving more free content to players in this year so your math, might be a bit incorrect

Reminder: They mentioned daily login bonuses of Dust, Gold, or Packs.

Bring it on and take my money!

had to dig deep for these, feels like the consensus is changing and most people are starting to see it is actually a really worrisome change
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>>168587940
Dust it. You could also play it on Shaman for some windfury synergy, but it's probably not worth it.
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With Maiev announced as the new playable hero, Hearthstone is now officially the best Blizzard game.
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>>168588087
>Sideboard
i dont get it
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>>168588184
If they build some structure where you for example unlock certain adventure missions after opening x amount of expansion packs and you're offered exclusive cards after completing these similar to how adventures used to work, it could be fine.

Of course there is a million of reasons why they won't do it as they never passed on the opportunity for moneygrab.
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>>168587940
If you must play it, combine it with conceal, master of disguise, and that stealth buff card perhaps. Keep it hidden.
But it is pretty terrible.
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>>168587940
Play it to force trades or removal.

Sylvanas does it much better.
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>Mid-Jade Shaman
>A deck that plays aggro better than other aggro, midrange better than other midrange and control better than other control
>Betr nurf patches LULeriNo xDd
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>>168588359
it's a mtg moron meme
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>>168588570
i feel like i might as well play thaurissan if i want that
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>>168588582

I will never get tired of Shaman triggered rage posts
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>>168588495
it's very easy to come up with any idea that improves that whole situation
the track record is that they are extremely greedy and it won't happen
we see it again in addressing this with daily login rewards for a few weeks, that's a fucking joke
why aren't they talking about that, clearly the conversation has shifted to this balance of wealth within hours of the announcement
it's not looking good :(
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>>168588565
>a 7+ mana two card combo 5/5 that only draws a card on your next turn... sometimes
There's no way to make that piece of shit viable.
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Were Sylvanas and Rag heavily used right now? I haven't kept up with HS but it feels weird they'd rotate those two.
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/nl_kripp/SuperGullBibleThump
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>>168588962

Sylvie and Rag are too slow now but they were ubiquitous in slower metas, and Team 5 is trying to slow down the game.
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>>168588962
Renolock plays Sylvanas, most other decks are too aggro-y for her though, she isn't seen anywhere near as frequently as before.
Similar with Rag, most people use cheaper more aggressive minions rather than 8 drops now.

Hell, reaching turn 8 is hard enough by itself.
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>we cant keep making adventures because they are too cheap
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Of all classes right now Shaman has the most potential and flexibility for making interesting decks, but instead everyone just plays minor variations of the same aggro or midrange decks.

Totems
Evolve
Overload
Deathrattle

There's so many potential decks you can play with him and nobody does it. Probably because it's not as good as the above mentioned two decks, but Shaman has the most wasted potential of any class.
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So how long before blizzard realizes evergreen was a bad idea and switches over to a true curated set system? If they had gone that route from the beginning they wouldn't have even needed to give people free dust for their hall of fame meme because any card that cycles out would eventually cycle back in. More than anything on the back foot of the player outrage over the terrible meta we're seeing team 5's poor decisions in the past are starting to reach the point that they're beginning to backfire.
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what's a better investment 200 bucks in cards or a gun to shoot myself in the face?
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>>168589403
food and shelter are better, so use money on them
pay bills and buy food, if you have a full fridge treat yourself to a nice dinner 1 day a week
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>>168589362

Totem and Deathrattle are too slow
Evolve is too random
Overload doesn't work
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>>168589403
arent guns more expensive than that...
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>>168589546
thanks anon
i found new will to live
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>>168589403
The cards will be lethal some of the time.

The gun will be lethal 100% of the time.
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>>168589403
There's so many better ways you could use 200 bucks for entertainment alone
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>>168589561
depends who you buy it from ;)
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>>168589403
Go crowdfund Pillars of Eternity 2 instead. If you spend $79 you get the second game when it comes out in 2018 and the first game with the expansions at the end of February when the campaign ends.

You could also just buy whatever else game you want to play on steam instead.
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imagine opening 900 packs of a set and still missing a legendary from opening
lmao
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>>168589630
that's illegal!
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>4 common, 1 rare; 61% of packs

61% of packs net you 40 dust

hahahahahahaha
just craft a legendary f2p player, they love it over adventures because they get to choose which one! its so efficient
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>>168589558
Those are just a few examples though. Looking at the cards I can see many more interesting combos that you could do, but despite being fun most of them would be gimmicky at best.
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I am a legend: hacking Hearthstone using statistical learning method

In this paper, we demonstrated the feasibility for a competitive player to use statistical learning methods to gain an edge while playing collectible card games online. We showcased how our attacks work in practice against the most popular online CCG Hearthstone: Heroes of World of Warcraft, which had over 30 million players as of May 2015. We devised a statistical learning algorithm to attack Hearthstone. It learns and exploits the structure of card decks to predict with very high accuracy what an opponent will play in future turns. At its peak, between turns three and five of the game, this algorithm is able to predict the most probable next card with an accuracy above 95%.
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>>168589880

It's just a confused class. None of their legendaries work as well as they should.
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>>168590079
Reminder that the rockbiter nerf directly nerfed al'akir.
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>>168590156
good
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>>168590156
and every windfury meme deck that was never good
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>>168587060
To be fair, the ranking rewards in Shadowverse isn't worth grinding for since it's really not worth it after the first 15k points.

But I suppose this is fine too, the F2P shitters can go fuck off to the weeb clone. Blizzard needs players who love their game, not spoiled retards stuck in perpetual dissatisfaction.
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reddit is leaking again...
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>>168591097
>Blizzard needs players who love their game, not spoiled retards stuck in perpetual dissatisfaction.
You mean: Blizzard need retards who loves their game
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inb4 vanilla minions get teched i to fight jades
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>shadowverse spellboost, kinda like handbuff
>doesn't show which cards in the hand get affected
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*plays jade card on 2*
*plays jade card on 4*
*plays aya on 6*
*brann + 4 mana jade card on 7*

nothing personal, control warrior
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>>168591812
why would it. I was surprised that handbuff did, nice info your giving to your opponent...
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>>168591812
I really don't see why they had to go ahead and do that when handbuff is already a shitty mechanic and this makes it marginally worse. What's even more interesting is that Hunter already had a handbuff card before Gadgetzan and it didn't show which cards it buffed.
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So basically if you don't have Sylv or Rag and you have the dust you just craft the golden version.
But if you already have a normal version and don't care about the golden cards you just do nothing.
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>play a few games of shadoweebs
>150g, arena ticket, 50 dust and 3 epics
:thinking:
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Why does nobody run C'Thun decks anymore besides the Aviana meme deck?

Are they that shitty or did people just get bored of it?
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>>168592078
the cards arent worth as much since it's attached to a dead game
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>>168592078
Too bad its UI is shit and it's way too anime to ever be successful.
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Memes for you
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>>168592160
>>168592169
i'm not saying the game is better i much prefer hearthstone
i'm saying the ingame economy is better and hearthstone needs that
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>>168592160
you think your HS cards are worth anything?
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>>168592145
>C'thun
>weaker cards with the upside of buffing C'thun
>some synergies like twin emporers

>Jade
>just play neutrally stated cards that shit out 6/6 without any tempo loss

Really makes your roof rumble.
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>>168591934
What in fuck's name were they thinking with golems

How is this filthy value justifiable
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>>168592078
>play a few Duelyst beta games
>20 packs 15 legendary card
:thinking:

I still dropped Dyelys game
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>>168592307
see
>>168592221
your move pal
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>>168589809
did blizzar release their numbers to china?
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Don't forget shadowverse packs are 8 cards and half are rare or better on average
>>
Accidents. They happen y'know?
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>>168592539
AWW
TOO BAD!
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>>168592441
How is that an answer?
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Should I craft all the golden cards that will rotate out? Regardless of what I have since I get the dust back anyway
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>>168592749
think about it
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>>168589362
Evolve shaman is a cool concept. If only every deck wasn't running 20 forms of aoe/removal.
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>>168582869
They don't actually remove OP cards, they remove the most used ones.
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>>168592413
i didn't even last a couple games in that one it's so weird
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>try fun deck
>nothing but netdecks
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>remove control, midrange and combo cards
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>>168593157
get ready for the new definition of control which will be play jades on curve
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>>168593112
what are you trying to do here??
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>>168593112

>auto complete deck
>fun

they used to be fun in casual
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>Alextrasza is not nerfed
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>168593581

>9 mana cards in 2017
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>>168593581
by turn 9 my 1mana jade card can congest it lul
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>>168593319
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>>168593581
Hopefully Thaurrisan getting banished to the phantom zone will kill off all the combo decks that take advantage of it

But I agree, 9 mana 8/8 'Deal 15 damage to enemy hero' will remain a huge game changer
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>>168593713
wrong deck, this one is
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>>168593581
>Alextrasza
>in 2017
??????????????????
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>>168591097
45 dust has been added to your Hearthstone account.
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>>168593869
this seems like it would only be good at rank <20
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>>168593869

Honestly one of the worst decks I've ever seen
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When's NA prelims starting
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When do they switch to year of the mammoth??
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>>168595353
Year of the mammoth more like year of your mom LMAO
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>>168595430
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>Let's give free dust to players so they think we are generous when in fact we don't want people to hoard cards and then disenchant them for full value
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>>168595868
What is wrong with that, retard
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>>168595868
you can still disenchant the cards if you want and double dip on the dust
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>>168595868

Why the fuck should you be rewarded for hoarding cards?
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>>168595353
When the new expansion releases. Around late March to early April seems like a solid estimate right now. I think they'll delay it until April so they can reveal a wacky card from the new set for April fools.
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>>168595868
I reckon 99% or possibly more of the playerbase is better off this way since I doubt many people hoarded multiple Rags or Syls.

You can still dust STB for the full dust value so the hoarders still make out like kings.
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Since Rag is rotating out, does that mean King Krush and Al'Akir might see some play?
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>>168596221
KK no, it's just so weak and there's no reason to run it over Call of the Ben Brode
WIIIIIIIIIIIINDS definitely, it's already a pretty good card just too slow for this meta
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>>168596221
King Krush is too big for hunter, I think. Unless they give hunter some tools to not go face every time.
Al'Akir might be played if shaman won't get any good big guy
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>>168596315
>>168596414
naaaa, the only reason alakir used to be good is because of rockbiter as well as flametongue. Its a weak but versatile lego, and without 12burst dmg its just weak
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>>168596414
>>168596315
I fail to see how the fuck is alakir even decent

He needs two cards to do anything and no taunt on board
And he leaves behind a very mediocre statted body
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>>168596315
Winds is dead with the rock biter nerf. It's not a good taunt that late in the game and even leeroy + windfury is better. Sure you have to run windfury but shaman has other high attack minions.
>>
Would you play a game mode that was only classic + naxx with nerfs up until undertaker?
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>>168596704
for a while sure
would I still be playing the game if they had never added an xpac after Naxx? not a chance
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>>168596221
nah m8, remember when the bgh nerf was going to bring about a diverse late game meta?
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>>168596928
u mean rag in every midrange deck instead of dr balance?
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>2017
>still playing HS
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Will top 100 arena averages go up since more good players want on the list? Or will it stay the same since said players are all playing against each other?
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>>168597446
shut the fuck up euroshit
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>>168597446
well good players arent playing against each other often outside of 10+ wins so it'll go up is my guess
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>>168597446
Fucking americunts.
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>>168597512
>>168597695

hmm
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>ICE BLOCK UNTOUCHED AGAIN
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>>168592915
>Should I craft all the golden cards that will rotate out? Regardless of what I have since I get the dust back anyway

Probably. I already crafted a golden rag.
>>
>>168599142
why does it matter?
without lance freeze mage is cucked out of the game and without reno reno mage is too
there is no use for ice block anymore
>>
>>168596704

I'm not interested in any mode that removes cards from the game. The card pool is too shallow as it is. They'd need like 2000 cards to be legal at the same time for interesting decks to have a chance to occur.
>>
>>168599156
Will we know ahead of time when it will go into effect? I dont have enough dust yet?

So I can just wait until the day before
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>>168592915
Yes but don't do it right now, you might unpack a golder one from tavern brawl packs before they rotate ou
>>
>>168596221

People are not going to start using bad 8-drops just because all the good 8-drops are leaving. People are just going to make the top end of their curve lower instead.

Brode doesn't get it. Rag wasn't overpowered, every other 8-mana card was underpowered. He needed to buff like 50 cards, not remove five.
>>
>>168599416
>Yes but don't do it right now,
So wait, for an announcement first>>168599378

I assume they will give us 1 weeks notice before they do it?
>>
>>168587605
feel you brah, really dissapointed with how wrong all the konami changes feel.
even if i accept the new zones/playmat etc. im sure next gen smth else bs extra monster will change zones and stuff :(
>>
>>168599378
>Will we know ahead of time when it will go into effect?

It will happen as soon as the next expansion comes out. I don't know the date, but it's probably at least a month away.

Technically I shouldn't have crafted that rag yet, because if I get a golden rag out of a brawl pack I lost a ton of dust for nothing, but the odds of that are lower than the odds of me just forgetting about this game and not crafting.
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>>168599478
rag is the only lategame card that even does anything, take onyxia, good stats but you just die when using her most of the time
>>
>>168599478
>>168599609
what im getting at is that all lategame cards thaqt are used do somthing or are taunts - malkarok, rag, nzoth, tirion, old yogg
>>
The new thread has been made early because of the trolls last time trying to prevent the /hsg/ tournament information being included in the OP.

Please fill out this thread first before rotating.

>>168599734
>>168599734
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>>168599995
It depends on a few things.

1. Do you personally attach any value to golden versions of the cards? If so, then the answer is probably yes for those cards.

2. Do you have enough expendable dust / safe duplicates? If so, then yes, the golden versions only give you more options with no downsides because you get an extra playable copy, allowing you to dust the non-golden one.

3. If dust is tight you need to evaluate each choice.
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>>168599854
Please dont do this, it just makes these slow threads even more confusing

Can a mod make this thread, the old one, autosage so it will archive quicker
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Post fun/meme decks.
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So I got like 2000 dust, I should save up and make a golden sylvanas .... right?
>>
>>168599854
>the /hsg/ tournament information being included in the OP
Put your tripcode back on you disgusting attentionwhore
>>
>>168600448
I'm literally playing that now. Got priest power and was able to vomit out a 16/16 lightspawn instantly.
>>
>>168600563
I'm not the tourney guy, I offered to help gather people for an EU version (during EU hours) of the tournament and it's getting pretty close to the needed sign-ups I believe.
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>>168600516
If you don't have regular Sylvanas, don't plan on playing Wild after the rotation and don't care about having goldan cards then craft her.

Otherwise only craft her if you really want a golden card.
>>
>>168600618
Is it fun? I'm thinking of just dropping the 800 dust for it so I have anything at all to play in this game.
>>
>>168600904
I think it's fun, but it is in no way competitive. You basically have to speed through games until you find that one that you actually want to play out.

Like if you don't get renounce by turn 4-5 then just concede. If your renounce is garbage, concede. But you will often be blessed with insanely OP shit.
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>>168600435
Yeah sorry about that. Last time some people made the thread 50 posts early after a OP including tournament information was talked about / agreed upon in the previous general.
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Tfw this bugged out mobile screenshot is a perfect synthesis of the game
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>>168549948
Patches
Lorewalker Cho
Nat Pagle
Sylvanas
Ragnaros
Ysera
Alexstrasza
Justicar
Grommash
Sky Cap'n Kragg
Jaraxxus
Thalnos
Deathwing
Edwin
Elise
Varian
Noggenfogger
Baron Geddon
Captain Greenskin
Tirion
Auctionmaster Beardo
Harrison Jones
The Black Knight
Leeroy Jenkins

All golden, most of them crafted. I had more golden legos but they were Wild so i dusted them along with my entire wild collection. I waited a whole year after Old Gods released and i never played anything but standard.
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Let's discuss good bans for a healthy and interesting tournament.

I hate to ban Reno but he would otherwise make up most of the decks. Other decks I want to see crippled:
>Dragon priest Draconid Op?
>Pirate ________ STB?
>Jade Aya? Jade idol? This one is tough
>Shaman TFB? Trogg? Maelstrom? Hex?
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>>168549948
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>>168545667
Best intro music and voice line of any legendary
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>>168561843

Literally the best neutral classic card since release
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>>168549948
>tfw too lazy to crop all collection pages of golden leggos together
>tfw ex-whale

What have I done.
>>
>Play Hunter for lols
>Renolock drops mountain giant.
>Play explosive trap and start spamming wow.
>He thinks it's freezing and passes turn.

Get bluffed netdecker.
>>
>Free dust
>Free hero

>REEEEEEEE, WHY THEY DON"T LET ME JEW THEM OVER BY CRAFTING 9000 GOLDEN RAGS, THOSE FUCKING KIKES

Disgusting and subhuman.
>>
>Instead of 5 legendaries for 20 odd dollars you now get 0.5 for the same price.
>Blizzdrones defend this!
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>>168587940
Dust it and craft something that's not complete shit
>>
Migrate whenever
>>168599734
>>168599734
>>
>>168589316

why are all blizzard employees such arrogant assholes
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